Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire: Parker Washington, Great TE Options, Bucs Receivers and Best Stash Candidates (11/04 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

We'll give you our top waiver wire priorities (2:30) right out of the gate with Parker Washington being the headliner. Is he the next Chimere Dike, or does he have some staying power? Also, there are a lot of good tight ends this week, but is Harold Fannin Jr. the best one? And what do we make of Cade Otton and the Bucs wide receivers? ... How much FAB should you spend this week (10:45)? Within this discussion, we take a longer look at Parker Washington's outlook. We've also got news and notes (18:00) and the Top 3 priorities at each position: QB (22:40), RB (24:40), WR (26:00), TE (33:45), DST (35:15) and Kicker ... Options in shallow leagues (39:00) and deep leagues (42:40) plus a recap of Cardinals-Cowboys (46:40) with an exciting rule change proposal! And we finish with the Dropometer (54:10) and a longer look at the waiver wire (56:10) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

Get those waiver wire claims in and let's be on alert. It is trade deadline day. We could have some breaking news, so we might be talking to you throughout the day. We do have a show at 1 p.m. Eastern on CBS Sports Network, but right now we'll go through the waiver wire. No major trades on offense yet, and we'll tell you who our top priorities are. Welcome, everybody. This is fantasy football today, presented by BetMGM, Make it Legendary.

Adam Azer, Dave Richard, and Jamie Eisberg. Guys, we are reached the Bon Jovi moment, Jamie. We are halfway there, nine weeks down, nine to go. Yeah, it's been a fun start so far. I think you mentioned this on Express yesterday. It's really at this point for fantasy managers. who's going to stay healthy toward the end of the season that may win your league as opposed to having just the best roster because it's been brutal with injuries and unfortunately more to come yeah it's been really rough so fun so fun yeah um all right well let's uh let's get right into it jamie who are our top three waiver wire priorities this week it's it's a it's a strange week in terms of that you know i i answered your question for the one p m show so i struggle with it parker washington to me's an easy one um just given the injuries that that the Jaguars are dealing with at receiver,

and don't be surprised if they make a trade to add a wide receiver by the end of the day. And then I went with two tight ends after that, and Harold Fanon and Colston Loveland. So it's another week of just a lot of good wide receivers, and one may be better than the next. I just feel like Washington's opportunity kind of sets them apart from the group. But I think you can get difference makers at the tight end spot. So Fanon's been very good over the last month.

I don't see that changing. And I'm hopeful with another injury to Colcomit and what Loveland just showed us against the beat. bangles that the guy that we thought coming into the NFL that was drafted surprisingly enough ahead of Tyler Warren can maybe start to show some things down the stretch as well yeah loveland's got the giants this week they've been pretty up and down but kind of mostly down recently against tight ends well i mean kiddle has dallas cotter it got her and also yeah um codert and got it's it's true it's true kiddle had only four targets teams are running a lot on the giants so that's hurting the

past production and then minnesota minnesota has been terrible against tight ends lately four touchdowns, the tight ends in their last four games. So that's Colson Love ones next two matchups. So Jamie goes Washington, Fanon, Loveland. Dave, how about you? My top three, I'm going to sweep it with tight ends. Fanon is my number one as well. I think he's locked into at least a good role in Cleveland.

If David Noghoku gets traded, then it's going to be a massive role for Harold Fanon. But Nogoku's number two, because even if he doesn't get traded, he's still going to see a lot of targets in Cleveland. We're talking about the top two target getters for the Cleveland Brown. and a quarterback that loves to throw short and a team that's probably going to be at minimum in competitive games most of the rest of the season.

So I like both of those tight ends off the top. And then Loveland would be third for me. I absolutely love what I saw from him last week. And even if you take away the yards after his last catch and the touchdown after his last catch, he'd still have six catches for 85 yards last week. Adam, you'd still really like him if he finished the game with six catches for 85 yards. right i don't think that that's something that we would you know turn our nose up at that's like an average game against cincinnati though right right right and so like i i think most teams would

have tackled loveland instead of just letting them bounce off of them and then run to the end zone but what happened happened and it's great to see more importantly seven targets is really really good his route rate has gone up each of his last three games i i don't see that changing but number one, he played against Cincinnati. Number two, he's still in an offense with Romo Dunzee and DJ Moore. Unless that changes, he's still going to be competing for targets pretty much every single week. So I like him, but I'd rather have the Brown's tight ends. I feel like they're a little bit safer.

All right. Just a couple of things here. One, does the impending return of Cedric Tillman put a damper on the Brown's tight ends? Because he's practicing now. And two, are we sure Fanon is the best? Brown's tight end, let's assume neither gets traded. Because I feel like a few weeks ago, we liked Nojoku better. So, Jamie, you can address those two things.

If we're really going to put this much priority on Fanon and maybe Nojoku as well, are we sure we're not being led astray, I guess, with the return of Tillman coming up and just the fact that we haven't always known who the best tight end on the Browns was. I don't really worry about Tillman. I think he's going to hopefully stretch the defense a little bit and maybe make things a little bit different from how they operate, but I don't see him getting many targets based on what Judy has done and what Isaiah Bond has done. I think Dave said it best. You know, Dylan Gabriel is kind of operating in the short area of the field and not afraid to, you know, trust his tight ends based on what they've been doing, especially in Kevin Stefanski's offense. I know he's handing over play calling duties, but I don't think that's going to change how things are going for this offense here.

And yes, it could be that Nijoku is better than Fannin. You have a three-game sample size because Njoku missed one of those games in the four where Fannin's been good. So three of four, Fannin's been 11 plus PPR points. Two of three, Njoku's been, I think it's 13 plus PPR points. There's just enough, I think, for both of these guys to be successful. So whether it's one's one and one's-A or vice versa, I think you could potentially start both. So it really comes down to like I went into,

our FFT league, for example, I had both Brown's tight ends. I dropped Najoku to pick up Loveland because they're both run a buy. And so I'm not going to go back and pick up Najoko at this point unless he's traded someplace that is like Green Bay, for example. He goes to Green Bay. That's the spot at this point.

So for the most part, I think I'm just going to ride it out with Fanon and hope that the Browns focus a little bit more on what their future is as opposed to maybe trying to make Najoku happy because I'd be very surprised if Najok was on the roster next year also. Okay, and then one more question for you guys here, right? So we use 65% roster percentage as the threshold of the guys that they have to be 65% roster or less for us to really focus on them here.

But then you've got a few players that are actually under that threshold and then one more who's just above it. And I want to talk about the Buccaneers, okay, because we could spend time picking up players on the Browns or we can take a look at the Buccaneers, right? And it's tough, though. It's tough. It's Chris Godwin. When's he coming back? it's tess johnson and it's kate otton and you know i think there's there's a case to be made that we should be if those are the guys we should be picking up right because we know what that

offense is capable of doing um dave how does the buccaneers factor into the waiver wire priorities i hated what we last saw from chris godwin he didn't look healthy and he's already been banged up well he obviously came into the year recovering from his injury and then he got banged up again. I don't know, A, when he's coming back, and it could be this week, but we don't know how effective he'll be, how many targets he'll get. So I'm nervous about going to pick up Chris Godwin. There are other wide receivers, Parker Washington, certainly ahead of them, that I would rather speculate on. I'm not picking up Godwin with the idea that he's going to become a must start for my fantasy team. Ted Johnson is kind of in that same boat,

except he's healthy and he's faster, and I like the role that he's been in for the past few weeks, and I'm hoping that he builds on that coming out of their buy week. Otten could be impacted significantly by any and all returns at wide receiver. And it's not just, it's not just Tess and it's not just Godwin. It's Jalen McMillan, who is an easy IR stash if you've got IR spots. And we don't know when he's coming back. But I remember watching him on the day that I went to their joint practice against the Titans. And he looked great.

So hopefully he's recovered from his injury. and it was a pretty gross neck injury, and hopefully he's fine, but he's somebody that you can at least stash and then see what happens. So I think you make a good point with the bucks. If I had to pick one of them, it would be Tess Johnson. I would only, there are some receivers that I would consider alongside Tess as far as stash guys go, and I would only consider that if I'm really good at tight end and I'm really good at flex.

Like, I don't even need bi-week replacements anymore. I got Brock Bowers. I'm good. I don't have to necessarily worry about finding another tight end. for the rest of the way in the case like that. Okay. Yeah, and if you look at the last week that they played, week eight, see some pretty modest numbers from KDOT and four for 40 on five targets

from Tess Johnson, five for 43 on six targets. He actually led the team in receiving. They threw 24 times for 152 yards. They ran the ball all over. Yeah, Baker had kind of a baggie, but they also won 23 to 3 at New Orleans. So it was just kind of a not a great game script. And, again, Tess Johnson, leading the team in receiving,

not something to be taken lightly that week. Abuka just had kind of an off game, three for 35 on nine targets. All right. So actually, it's not that bad of a waiver a week. There are just some guys who are just above the 65% range. There's really no good running backs. But, all right, we'll get into it.

And at 1 o'clock, we'll see on CBS Sports Network. 1 p.m. Eastern, watch CBS Sports Network. We're also going to be answering your questions. Jamie, how much Fabby's sports? spending this week? Again, it comes down to your record. You know, we're at the point in the season where if you need to make a big move to get something that you feel is going to help you, then you do it.

You know, and we had this conversation last week, obviously, about Tyrone Tracy, and it blew up in our face. You know, the fact that we spent a lot of fab on him, I know a lot of people did, and he, you know, didn't take advantage of the opportunity of Camp Scatible being out. So, you know, in the case of Parker Washington, who, you know, is coming off back-to-back games with significant targets and you know you had hunter get hurt and and now brian thomas junior injured forever long those two are going to be out it might be season ending for for hunter at this point um i would say at most probably you're looking at 20 percent i wouldn't go crazy for it

again it's just as good a situation as he might be in the schedule is brutal and we are talking about a guy that's been hovering around the third and fourth receiver for them you know so diami brown i think we'll have a role bren strange is going to return soon and you'll know so just if you you know if you're like adam who likes to do his fab moves you know in the early part of the day oh if if if the jaguars make a trade you know you may have to obviously circle back and and reevaluate that i i probably should have led with this don't do your fab moves until after four o'clock today like this this tuesday only no you've you've got to wait because if there's a big trade that could really it's going to make you go back and do your waiver moves all over

again. So I would just wait until after 4 o'clock to do anything. I do it because I think it's helpful for the 1 o'clock show for me to kind of know where I'm at. Well, why don't you, why don't you pretend to do it? Like, do it in your mind and then talk about it on the 1 o'clock show and then. I'm going to do it anyway. But.

All right. Waste your time. Probably not going to be that many things that change, you know. I think we probably get maybe three skilled position players that are dope. And it could be small time players. Like, we can wish all day long for briefs. Hall and even to Joku to get moved. But oftentimes it just doesn't make enough sense for the teams to do it.

How, how, what do you think the rest of this season looks like for Parker Washington guys? Are we just going to be fooled by another wide receiver or is this one different? I think it's different in the sense of there's significant injuries to the Jaguars receiving core. Like you're not getting Travis Hunter back for at minimum three more games. So you know you have him out and he's not there. And Brian Thomas Jr. may have a high ankle. spring so we know how that goes it could be two or three weeks that he's missing time so if you're not

having those two guys on the field again i know it's houston this week i forget they have in week 11 um you are talking about a guy that just had 18 targets in his last two games 19 targets in his last two games like trevor lawrence is going to throw him the ball so now is that going to be and you asked me this yesterday i think is this going to be a a chimery dk situation is it going to be a kendrick bourne those two weeks situation you know is it going to be kashon booze You know, it could go any one of those directions where a guy seemingly is stepping into the number one role and then things sort of get, you know, altered a little bit because, oh, now Diambi Brown steps up or Brent and Strange comes back or one of these scenarios. But I think just looking at what the Jaguars personnel is, like, he's that guy right now. And high end number three receiver, I think at best is probably what you should be viewing him as.

But that's not a bad piece to pick up at this point. He's Will Smith in the room with no furniture. because they've got nothing else around him, especially if BTJ misses time. All right, they've got Houston, then the Chargers, who've just shut down,

Shimray, DK. Ha, ha, ha, that's sarcasm, at Arizona and at Tennessee are their next four games. Yeah, that's three tough ones.

I don't, I don't love that. And especially with Brent and Strange coming back, because he'll take some of those targets away from Parker, Washington. Like,

I agree, like in full PPR, he can get you 10 to 13 ppr points. And he might be able to do it against Houston because he's such a short area option and they don't have a lot of other options. He hasn't been. That's the thing. I thought Parker... You got to adjust them. If they

adjust them to do it to do that. High slot rate, short area, not really. Like 40% slot rate, which is high but it's not, you know, always in the slot. I think what you should hope for is those two games that Wondell had without Darius Slate and after Millie Neighbors got hurt.

You know, so he's more of a Wondell Robinson type of player and then was pushed into a different role and excelled in it. Can you do the same thing? All right. Well, one, here's a positive for Parker Washington. You look at his game log. He's got a lot of games where he barely played.

He's only got four games this year where he's played more than 33% of the snaps. But two of those games are the two most recent games. Now, four games, Parker Washington has played 71.4% or more of the snaps. He has, in those four games, 11, 2, 10, and 9 targets. So if he is basically a full-time player, that is nine or more targets in three of four. four games where he's played more than 70% of the snaps. That's the hope here. All right. We're going to take a break

and got a couple of important things. I have a great rule change. A great rule change. Something that happened in the game last night really upset me deeply. And I'm going to change it. I'm going to make NFL rule change, not a fantasy rule. NFL rule change. Yeah. Also, I want to get a little

FFT open update. We haven't talked about this in eight weeks and that's not fair. To the people who donated to St. Jude and are part of this amazing tournament. We're going to get a little bit of an update on our leagues. Yeah, Wednesday. It feels like a Wednesday thing. We do it Wednesday. Sure, we'll do it tomorrow then.

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Daniels is not officially out for the season yet Quintan Judkins was at practice yesterday so and did we see anything on Barclay I know he was optimistic going into the buy anything new on Barclay? I'm not seeing anything but hopefully what he said prior to the buy is applicable that he expects to play.

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Aaron Jones' shoulder injury. He's been optimistic that he'll be able to play. Samajai P. Ryan has a high ankle sprain. He's going to miss it. He's week to week. They have a buy this week. Wide receiver news, Brian Thomas Jr.'s got that ankle injury. I haven't really heard any updates.

He stayed in the game after getting hurt. hurt, but, you know, I heard high ankle sprain, so it could be at that for Brian Thomas, Jr. Don't know for sure that Pooka Nakua is going to play this week. There seems to be optimism there. Garrett Wilson is going to practice this week. Marvin Mims, they play on Thursday, and he was listed as a non-participant, still on the concussion protocol. They play Thursday, Denver, against Las Vegas.

Matthew Golden's shoulder injury is apparently not serious. Kishon Booty is day-to-day with his hamstring injury. You know, DeMario Douglas didn't really get a boost. in playing time. He did get a little bit of a boost in production, but he actually caught his touchdown on a wheel route out of the backfield before the booty injury. Kyle Williams played more for the Patriots. And that's pretty much it. Luke McCaffrey out for the season with a broken collarbone. Tucker Kraft out for the season with a torn ACL and Cole Commit has an injury and offensive line. The Chargers, Joe Alt's out for the year with

an ankle injury. That's brutal. And Bobby Hart, they're right tackle is also out. This team is super injured. Do you think we should be downgrading, Dave, the Chargers, pass catchers? No, because we've seen Justin Herbert connect with them, even when his offensive line was in tatters before. So I would imagine they'll be in plenty of games where they're going to have to do that again. You don't know what Cole Comit's injury is, do you?

Back, right? No. What is it? Conquestion. Commet? Oh, sorry about that. All right. Well, that's important because that's usually...

The way you paused was... Colomet hasn't... Yeah, I didn't put it in the notes. And then I was thinking back, we talked about it on yesterday's show, and I don't think we do that. No, I remember saying to you, I was like, oh, it was his back,

but I don't know. You tricked me. I mean, it's close back concussion. Right, and this is important because when Commet's been healthy, Loveland hasn't really been on the field that much, except for last week. And, you know, the first half,

Comette barely played. I don't know if that's because he was banged up coming into the game or they're just making a change now. But, you know, concussion is usually not a long-term thing. All right. Anyway, we got the Chargers offensive line beat up. We've got the Lions, guys. The Lions offensive line is super beat up. Guard Christian Mahogany could miss much of the rest of the season with a knee injury.

And are both tackles banged up right now for the Lions? They are. Dacker left the game, came back in. Sue will play through an injury. I would assume that both will be on the injury report this. week, but I don't know if either one's in danger of missing their next game. Okay. I believe Dan Campbell talked this morning.

He probably asked about if Frank Ragnow would come out of retirement. He said, I believe the quote was, that ship has sailed. Oh, all right. Well, he'll probably come back and play for the Eagles because everyone's going to the Eagles these days. They already got Brandon Graham out of retirement. They traded for Jalen Phillips from the Dolphins. The Ravens acquired edge rusher, Draymont Jones from Tennessee.

The Ravens don't do not have a pass rush currently. and the Cowboys, they're in it to win it. They acquired Logan Wilson, linebacker from Cincinnati. I think that's going to hurt Cincinnati's run defense. Actually, he hasn't really played that much. I'm not sure to help Dallas's run defense. Yeah, I will leave it at that for the defensive injuries. I'm going to read a quick email of the day.

It's from Dan DeCenzo. We don't have to react to this. We can just let it be because it's the best email ever. He said, I just wanted to defend Adam and say that not only does pumpkin pie taste gross, but it also has the consistency and color of baby poo. Let's go to the top three players at each position. Jamie, top three quarterbacks this week. Pumpkin pie.

Pumpkin pie and pumpkin pie. Top three quarterbacks is a bad week of quarterbacks, as bad as this running back. So for me, the top three are Marcus Mariotta stepping into the role for Jane Daniels. I know it's not pretty, but not the toughest of matchups coming up until they're by. We've to get Detroit this week and then Miami next week.

I have Justin Field second. I expect him to start. I can't imagine that he wouldn't. More of a long-term play than a short-term plays. Playoff schedule is fantastic. And the same thing with JJ McCarthy. Don't love him against Baltimore this week.

Week 11 against Chicago, which is not bad. But then the playoff schedule is fantastic for him, gets Washington, Dallas, the Giants, and Detroit. So hopefully he continues to play well and build off the, I think we all forget, it's only three starts for him, but builds off the three starts that he's made and can finish the season strong. So there's not really a good short-term answer.

Again, for me, it would be Mario da, as the best one. But these are guys in Fields and McCarthy, you can stash for the playoffs. What about Purdy? He's about 70% rostered. He is 55% rostered on Sleeper, which is usually pretty close to ESPN and Yahoo. Don't know when he's coming back,

but hopefully soon, would Purdy be a big priority for you, Jamie? Pretty would be one, yeah. You know, if we're looking at those guys, I don't know where they are on other sites, but Donald would obviously be one. He was one for us last week

and, you know, came through with a big performance against Washington. Obviously, you want to pick up and stash Flacco for the rest of the season, you know, based on what he's done so far, averaging over 29, points per game as a starter and then um pretty would be the other one yeah i think those three guys in terms of the just above the percentage that we talk about i think flaco would be one no well if you're looking for this week you know flaco's on a buy so yeah if you don't have

to play a quarterback for this week then obviously flaco would be the best rest of season okay by the way mariotta gets dallas in the fantasy championship now daniels could be back at that point but uh that's pretty cool all right dave top three running back i don't even mention a running yet. Weird, right? Usually we do. Yeah. Hold your nose because these guys aren't great.

So hopefully you don't need a running back. But if you do, Devin Singletary would be at the top of the list, 90% available, split reps close to evenly with Tyrone Tracy, who was disappointing. Coaching staff likes him. They're very familiar with his game. And I don't think he's going away anytime soon. I really don't have strong feelings about the next two names. I'm thinking Stash with Devin Neal.

who played 40% of the snaps for the Saints. He played six of nine snaps on third down. He had their lone snap inside the 10. It's just thinking that he's eventually going to see more than 40% of the snaps, and maybe he evolves into a running back that helps you later on this season. And then after that, we're talking about guys like Terrell Jennings, Jeremy McNichols, Bachel Tootin. Well, we will know after 4 o'clock whether or not Isaiah Davis becomes a thing.

I can tell you right now that if, if Brees Hall gets traded, Isaiah Davis leaps to the top of this list, top of every list, as far as people to add, because he would get an opportunity, I think, to be the lead back for the New York Jets. And he's played pretty well in the limited opportunities he's had. Okay. So Singletary, Devin Neal, Terrell Jennings. By the way, Camara fumbled. I don't think he had a touch after the fumble.

He did one. Kellimore was asked about that. And he basically defended Camara. Yeah. But who knows? I mean, the teams of mass. Yes, they are. Jamie, top three wide receivers.

Yeah, Parker Washington would be one. You know, just looking again at what his opportunity is and hopefully we'll take advantage of it. After him, I go Tori Horton second, you know, excited to see if he continues to get a bigger role. He has actually four games this season with exactly four targets. He has not had more than four targets in a game. In every game where he's gotten exactly four targets, he has scored a touchdown.

So let's get him a little more opportunities going, not an easy matchup this week and get to Arizona. ona, but if Cooper Cup is out, you just got to love the opportunity for him. And then I have Josh Downs third. You could say Alec Pierce's third. I just think Downs has been a little bit more consistent. His targets have been a little bit more consistent as well. Pierce's upside is great.

You get to score touchdown this season. But Downs very quietly is getting the job done. And so this is another team. It's got a lot of mouths to feed. You've seen obviously Tyler Warren play great. Michael Pittman's played great. Downs and Pierce kind of been alternating who's the three, who's the four based on their production. I just feel a little bit more comfortable with Downs based on his role.

I would love to be the fancy man. that doesn't need anything this week, but maybe needs a wide receiver to stash moving forward, Horton would be the first name on that list. I don't know how the Seahawks could turn back to Cooper Cup and give him a huge role when Tori Horton is doing what he's doing. Like if he's doing well on four targets, imagine what he could do on, I don't know, five targets, six targets.

I would love to see something like that happen. The problem is that we haven't seen the Seahawks offense and coaching staff, I should say coaching staff, adjust to things that they've seen on the field. Exhibit A is the running backs, and they're just sticking to how they've been utilizing their running backs week after week after week without really changing, even though one of them seems to be a little bit more efficient than the other. So it's a little bit of a risk with Horton. If you're just looking for a stash receiver, Horton would be at the top of the list. Tess Johnson would be second, Alec Pierce would be third. But there's a lot of receivers, Jamie, you talked about this.

There are a lot of wideouts that you can pick up and stash and see what happens. The only one that I think you can really use right away, and it's in full point. PPR is Washington. And even then, it's not a great matchup. But why not Tess Johnson, though? I think, Jamie, you have them right behind this group here. And why not Chris Godwin? So Tess Johnson, 62%.

Chris Godwin is 69% rostered. So that's why he's not on this list. But, yeah, just talk about those two guys, Jamie, and how they fit in with Washington, Horton, and Josh Downs. So I have Godwin in the other list of the shallower leagues. So he's in the story. I know we'll talk about him when you asked about that category. I think in the case of Tess Johnson, if Godwin comes back, I have little interest in him.

You know, so whether he's better than Godwin, Dave's right, he could be better than Godwin. I just don't think we're going to get enough targets from him to be trustworthy. You know, he'll be a guy they take some shots with. He'll end up being their third receiver. I just think that if Godwin's back and they feel comfortable enough with him, remember, he came back from the ankle injury and it was a 10 target game right away. So Baker will lean on him. Baker obviously trusts him.

This Godwin. And I think Ted Johnson just is sort of the break glass in case of emergency. So if you want to go through waivers and sort of play this out, I'm going to take Washington with what his role is. I'm going to take the upside of what Horton's role could be. I think Downs and Pierce have earned enough, you know, with their production to be ahead of Tess Johnson. And then Johnson and sort of Darius Slayton kind of feels similar to me in terms of what they can do. You know, if you tell me right now, Godin was not coming back, then yes, Tess Johnson would bump up a couple spots. But I just don't know.

I don't think anybody does. How much should this matter But the Colts wide receivers Josh Downs and Alec Pierce Both available and enough leagues Got Atlanta this week Their seventh best against wide receivers Struggled a little bit the last two weeks

As they've had some injuries And they have a bond down their schedule Yeah this is a good Atlanta then a buy Then the chiefs who are sixth best Then the Texans who are second best And he's talked about this on Sunday That we've been saying

The Home Road splits for Daniel Jones And as I mentioned, it's the don't outdoor splits, I think that sort of matter most because his road game at the Chargers was great also. So can he get the job done in not great environments, especially as the weather starts to get bad? I don't know if that's a Daniel Don't thing per se, because obviously he played for the Giants, but at least it's playing itself out now right now with the Colts. So I don't know if you want to invest heavily in them. And that kind of plays itself into why I like downs better than Pierce. We're just looking at Pierce coming off a game against a secondary

that has struggled to defend big plays down the field. And he has this big game against the Steelers. He has a jump in targets. Three games ago, he had another big game, a spike in targets. It was without Downs playing. He was out with the concussion. So I don't want to chase that per se. I would rather go with what Downs has done and maybe can continue to do as a short area target.

So I don't know if they're must start guys. Again, we've said this week and week out. There's not a lot of must start wide receivers that have become available on waivers. They might be, but we've just had enough examples of this where it's one week, disappear, three weeks, disappear. What we were saying about Torrey Franklin, for example, which is why you go back to him if he was dropped. We said it last week.

Tori Franklin coming off the huge game against Dallas. He's probably going to struggle against Houston, may get dropped, still had 10 targets. It was awesome. Did nothing with it. Now he gets the Raiders. I'm going right back to Tori Franklin as a high-end number three receiver three. So I think the bigger issue with Daniel Jones, I don't think it's the, you know, location of where he plays. I think it's the pass rush that he has to deal with because I went back

and watched the Steelers. Their pass rush came alive last week in a big way. And Daniel Jones is like most quarterbacks. In fact, he's probably worse than most quarterbacks when he's under pressure. He's been doing a better job than he did with the Giants this year. But there are a lot of teams coming up on the schedule for Indianapolis that's going to put him under pressure. I like Alec Pierce a lot as a talent. But you're right, James. I think that this is a situation where you want to go with the shorter option, somebody that's going to catch a bunch of those short throws when Jones knows he's got to get the ball out fast. And that's going to be something that downs will be able to do. Plus, he's more available than Alec Pierce is. And we might be dropping both guys after this

week against Atlanta anyway. So I don't think a huge investment should be made in either Downs or Pierce, unless it's a keeper league. Alec Pierce is in a contract year. The way that he's playing and the way his highlights have looked, he's going to get a big deal as a friend. free agent this offseason. Okay. This is kind of funny. It seems that Daniel Jones only played three games with the Giants in a dome. He played four, but he left one of them with an injury.

In his career? Yeah, that's what I'm seeing. Didn't he play against the Cowboys every year in Dallas? Not a dome. Dallas is a dome. Not according to true media. Yeah, well, they're wrong. Winsle the last time.

was wind and rain at AT&T Stadium. But the indoor games he had... Remember that big snow game at AT&T Stadium? Wow! Indoor games, he averaged 353 yards with seven touchdowns in those three games and two interceptions.

I believe they have a retractable roof option on that same film. Okay, okay, okay, retractable room. All right. Okay, I'll try to do the math for you. Let's see, yards in these games. 322, 22, 402, 228, 334, 321, 190. All right.

Let's go to tight end. He's playing behind a really good offensive line with a good coach and some great players. And the offensive line finally fell apart against the Steelers. So the Steelers' pass rush was great. Their offensive line was miserable for the first time all season. Quentin Johnson, Quinn Johnson, Quentin Nelson talked about that after the game. Like, this was bad for us. And it just hasn't happened yet.

So we'll see if they hold up against the Falcons and the Chiefs. Okay. Dave, who are our top three tight ends? We, I already talked about mine, Fanon In Djoku Loveland, would you like three more? Sure. Mason Taylor still makes the list.

Joanne Johnson, he's been pretty good at his last three games. Kate Otten, if nobody gets healthy for Tampa coming out of the buy, would be an interesting option against New England. The easiest choice to go get and one that might have immense upside is barring trade, Luke Musgrave.

He is going to step into Tucker Crafts role and did a nice job in his rookie season when Kraft was banged up. This is a better offense that I think will allow him to flourish a little bit. Matt LaFleauroar was talking about, he can still make plays down the field, similar to what Tucker Kraft was doing. So he's as available as any tight end, you'll find. I got one more for you,

but I'm going to wait until we talk about players available in deeper leagues. Sure. All right. Jamie, give me a DST to stream this week. It's actually a pretty good week for DSTs. I'm going to go to the Browns coming off their buy week. They've been a very good DST and they get the Jets. And so Garrett Wilson may return.

We'll see what the quarterback's going to be. Obviously, the trade deadline could determine what the running back situation is. But the Brown's DST has been really good. The Jets' offensive struggled at times. So that's the number one DST for me this week. Brown's 55% rostered. Jamie also likes the bills. They're at Miami and the Panthers against these Saints.

Okay, also the Ravens. The Ravens have Minnesota and then Cleveland and then the Jets. So the Ravens have kind of a good stretch coming up. but they've been better just as a DST. 12 or more fantasy points in two of their past three. They need another pass rush. I know they just traded for Draymont Jones, but I don't know how good he is at getting to the quarterback.

They need somebody else. And Jamie, who are the kickers to stream? Again, guys coming off by weeks are always easy to, you know, take a look at Chase McLaughlin's been good so far this season after a slow start gets the Patriots. Jason Myers gets the Cardinals at home. Joshua Cardi gets the 49ers. Matt Prater gets the Dolphins, assuming he's still the kicker.

Just keep an eye on that. and then we'll let's at home against the Raiders. Excellent. And I think I have to move on from Braylon McManus. He's not healthy. He is not playing well. But if they go to their backup, I can't remember who their backup was for the attackers.

He was pretty good. He was. Yeah, he was pretty good. So keeping that in that situation. All right, we're going to take a break. Shallow leagues, deep leagues, the best rule proposed. I'm going to make football more fair. And we'll recap Monday night football.

Do these rules apply in a dome or out of dome? dome yes retractable roof no I mean that's one of the dumbest things you ever said Look I went I did a filter I searched for dome I didn't think retractable room I've never done this search before I'm learning All right we'll be right back

On fantasy football today Welcome back everybody Okay Luckily I'm here in my My indoor house No confusion Not a retractable roof on your house No

Nothing there. All right. Jamie, shallow leagues, things get interesting, right? We've already said a few names that are Flacco,

league winner maybe, Hurdy, some good players here. Who are we looking at? Who are the prizes in the shallow leagues? Quarterbacks are great. Darnel and Flacco,

I think, have proven that they could be longstanding rest of season starters for your team. Darnold plays this week, not an easy matchup against the Cardinals as we find out week after week.

Flacco does not matter. So pick those two guys up. Yes, if you're just looking long-term flaco should be the top guy to go get, Brock Purdy in the same situation. He's in the same spot in my column every week, and I say the same thing every week. Hopefully he returns and can be the guy that we know he's capable of being, but right now still dealing with his toe injury that the 49ers don't seem to want to rush. And then for Aaron Rogers, again, if you're looking ahead, don't love him this week against the Chargers, but then he gets the two-game turnaround that we've fallen into, I think, with a couple of teams

recently. Cincinnati, Week 11, Chicago, and Week 12. So looking ahead, he can certainly be somebody that can carry you for those two games, I think, especially based on what the Cowboys look like at running back. It's a little bit better than the list Dave gave you because we have a few more options, not many, but a few more. But Trey Benson, hopefully will return this week. He's 78% roster. We've been saying this for a few weeks now. And I don't really think you're going to start this guy anytime soon. But again, Tyler Alger, Brian Robinson, Jr., stashed them on your bench. Something ever happens to the guys in front of them, they would be must start running back. So Algear is in the range of the shallow league guys.

wide receiver there's a few situations here based on trades but trade talker just in case Jacoby Myers is traded Rashid Shaheed will see if he gets traded he's a likely candidate to be on the move but he's been playing very well regardless of where he ends up playing so best game with Tyler Shuck was from Shahid

Troy Franklin like I said go right back to him Joanne Jennings 67% roster and Christian Watson maybe gets a few more opportunities now with Matthew Bolton Hurt and obviously the tight-end situation being what it is without craft there And then a tight end, you can take a look at Mark Andrews if you want to. You know, Lamar Jackson back that obviously makes Andrews more attractive. And Theo Johnson, it's funny.

Dallas Goddard, his best games have come against the Giants. Theo Johnson's worst games have come against the Eagles. But he does have six touchdowns in five games with Jackson Dart. So it continues to be a go-to guy for Dart. So how would you compare Joanne Jennings, Christian Watson, specifically, to Parker Washington. At this point, I'd rather have Parker Washington, but they're not far apart. But Washington feels more short term.

Like, it's really close for me between Washington and Joanne Jennings. Yeah. The only concern with Jennings is Pearsall may be back. Ayuk may be back. You know, it's just a lot of mouths to feed, and they're starting to run the ball better. They also, I think I saw that Shannon said that he's not ready to rule out Pearsall yet, that he's going to practice this week. Oh, wow. Wouldn't that be something?

Remember, you were, no, Jennings is the better one. No, Pierceall's the better one. No, it really does not matter. I think I'm, of course, going to do it next year because you have to. But one of the dumbest pieces of analysis ever is, well, this is what the 49ers are going to look like when everyone's healthy. There's never one game in any single season where everyone is healthy. Someone has always hurt. Usually more than one person. All right. So you'll tell us what they're going to look like when a random person. is not healthy. Yeah, we could try. All right, Dave. Eric Cartman is about to become a prospector.

None of these guys are available in my league. Who's the deep league guys? Marcus Mariotta is back in our lives, 90% available. He's got the Lions. They've allowed at least 21 fantasy points to five of the past seven quarterbacks that they've taken on, including J.J. McCarthy last week. Mario daughter's been 20 plus and four of his past six when he's played a majority of the snaps.

I wish Terry McLaurin were healthy. He's not. So Mario is going to have to make do without him, but he's been pretty good. Plus he runs a little bit. Other quarterbacks, it ain't pretty. It's Bryce Young, 76% available. Tyler Shuck, I mean, he's playing Carolina. They've a lot, a lot of fantasy points to every quarterback, not named Jordan Love lately.

But I can't start Tyler Shuck. And I don't know if we've got another quarterback. Maybe Terad Taylor, if he ends up. You got to look at Davis Miller and Superflex and two quarterbacks. Yeah, that's fine, too. You can go to Davis Mills, but I've been down that road before, and it's a gross road. Devin Singletaria, running back, 90% available. Devin Neal, 81% available.

Jeremy McNichols, 86% available. Is there anyone that you actually like? No. Or it's just names? No, these are just names. Okay. You want me just to skip? You want me to skip and just only go to the people who all right?

I think if you were actually in a deeply where these are really fast if we do that. That's fine. I mean, look, if you're looking at the waiver wire and all these players are available, is there anyone that actually piques your interest? Singletariat running back would be the only one that would mildly peak my interest. But even then, like, can I get, can I expect 10 PPR fantasy points from any of the running backs? I just rifled through. And the answer is no, not really, no.

Okay. Any wide receivers, though, that pique your interest? I think Parker Washington can get you north of 10 PPR points, and he's 92% available. Tori Horton is 85% available, but he's more stashed than start. Cedric Tillman, you can stash on your IR until he's activated. It sounds like he'll be activated this week, but he'll buy a roster spot for a few days anyway, and he's 88% available. And then at Tide End, Loveland, 75% available.

Mason Taylor, 75% available. Luke Musgrave is 100% available. And now the secret name, another IR stash. We've talked about him before, but especially now if the Jaguars are going through injuries at wide receiver, Brenton Strange, 84% available. You can literally make them your last waiver claim, and you will get him because no one's thinking about getting strange right now, but you can get them and stash him on your IR until he's ready to play.

There's three other wide receivers that may have an impact for deeper leagues and deeper leagues only, and you've got to keep an eye on some injury situations. One will be the Amy Brown, because if both Jaguars receivers are out, he's going to play a lot. He was concussed last week. Am I right on that? I saw him at the end of the game. I don't know if he cleared the protocol or not, but I don't believe he was on Nidja report.

Oh, yeah, no, he was just prior to overtime. He was ruled out. Okay. So keeping on that. But that's a reason to like Parker Washington. The next would be Jalen Lane with not only McCorn out, but also Caffrey down. So Jalen Lane is somebody that can make some plays.

And prior to their biweek, if you recall, Garrett Wilson was out. We know Tyler Johnson caught a touchdown. in the game against Cincinnati and had prior to that a 60-yard game as well. So deeper leagues, these three guys could have

somewhat of an impact if you're looking for just some help. Okay. By the way, I'm really glad you brought up Brenton Strange. Because Brenton Strange was sort of on to something pretty good there before going on IR.

He's got two games away, though. Well, he's out this week and then I think and then I think he can come back. He's missed three games. So he's eligible to return in week 11. Yep. Brent and Strange, 16% rostered.

All right. I think it's time for a recap of Monday night football. Wait a minute. Don't you have a big rule change that you want to add to games that are held in stadiums with certain types of roofs? Yeah. So this was during the game, George Pickens caught a pass for a first down. And then he showed the ball to the opponent and he got flagged for 15 yards. And they kept the play.

the play was a first down, and they moved them back 15 yards and it's first and 10. So it wasn't that crippling. Now, if he had caught that ball a yard in front of the first down marker, I don't remember what down it was, but let's say it was second down in one, and then he got that personal foul penalty, becomes second down in 16, right? So I think the difference between the penalty if you pick up the first down versus the penalty, if you don't pick up the first down, it's too different, right? The severity is there's too much of a gap.

in it. So I propose that if you get, well, again, we'll use this example, second and one, and you get a personal foul penalty. You move the ball back 15 yards, but it remains second and one. You move the yard to gain back 15 yards. So you are penalizing the team by moving them 15 yards back, but you are not making it second down in 16. You are still keeping it second down in one. You love participation trophies, don't you? I just don't think it makes any sense. Oh, you picked up a first down, so you keep the first down. It's first and 10. Why not make it first in 25? You know what I'm saying? Like, it doesn't make any sense to keep it first and 10 and move a team back 15 yards, whereas you don't keep it second and

one and move a team back 15 yards. You make it second and 16. You're the type of guy that goes and watches the game and says, I can't wait to see the referees. I think, I think, you want more chaos from officials. You know, unless, yes. Tell me this doesn't make sense. it doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense i could see it i could see you know i could see it in dave's face while i was saying it that he was kind of agreeing with me no not even a little it's a it's a it's an after the play penalty so the play has to stand i completely that's the difference between that and like a holding penalty you know right you know a quarterback throws a touchdown 95 yards or whatever and it comes back due to a holding penalty the play doesn't count

because the penalty happened during the play and the penalty is enforced, but you still get to keep the down. Dave, you're making my point for me because here's another. Because what I'm saying, okay, it's like it's, you know what? It's like a kickoff, right? You could say, all right, I'm going to take the penalty and move them back 15 yards for the kickoff. So, you know, this is an after the play penalty.

You should not lose the yardage as it relates to how many yards you need. for the first down. Move the team back 15 yards, but keep the down and distance. I just don't understand why you wouldn't do it. If they pick up a first down, there's really no penalty other than moving back 15 yards.

If they don't pick up a first down, it's so punitive. You're 15 yards back from what you need to gain. It doesn't make any sense to me. It's penalizing them for being stupid. I understand, but it's a different consequence if you picked up the first down on the play or if you don't be stupid.

I agree, but you still get a penalty by moving back 15 yards. It just stays as second and one. Let me ask you a question. David. One of your children, they want a piece of candy. Yeah. And you say, no, they can't have candy. They take the candy container, which is glass, and they break the glass container.

Right. It's now smashed all over the floor. Did this happen at your house? No. I just want to know how Adam would handle this. Okay. Yeah. Go on.

So now they've created a problem for you. they take the candy and they eat it because it's now available all over the floor. Are you going to take the candy out of their mouth? Is this an indoor house or a retractable roof house? All right, let's get into the game. 2717, Arizona with the win. And Amari DiMarcato supplanting Bam Knight.

Bam Knight, I think, was really the short yardage goal line guy, but he couldn't get in. But that was a real bummer. And we might get, we might get Trey Benson back this week against Seattle, we'll hope. But we didn't even mention, does anybody want to pick up Demarcato? No, you got to be definitely. It just feels like it's going to be messy.

And you're talking about Seattle. So, like, I want a roster, Trey Benson. I don't want to start Trey Benson next week if he comes back, because he's coming back from a, you know, a four-game layoff, a five-week layoff with the bi-week. And, yeah, I don't, I want to see what this is rest of season. Like, last night was just frustrating. And we've talked about their,

schedule moving forward. There's more bad than good for the Cardinals run game based on matchups. And do you think Jacoby Brissette keeps the job? So we got different reports. Jonathan Gannon said nothing's changed. And I don't know if that meant nothing changed. Like he would ask about Kyler and said nothing's changed. But it, he could really take that anyway. He wants to if he wanted to be direct. The broadcast, according to Schefter, said that they're going to stick. with Jacoby Brissette. Now, that could easily be the same thing. Hey, Kyler's not healthy yet. We're going to stick with Brissette and give Kyler more time to get close to 100%. Or it can mean

that that's what they said in the broadcast meeting, which, you know, you get a lot of information from those guys. So I'm treating it as Brissette starting in week 11, and we'll see what happens after that. Week 10? Week 10, sorry. Okay. Because Brissette could stink in week 10, and then now they've got their excuse to go back to Kyler in week 11. But he's been so good, though. He's been great. He's been great. And 8 or more fantasy points in three straight games.

Two of them fairly easy matchups, but Green Bay at the Colts at Dallas. And, uh, where was the Colts game, what's that? Where was the Colt's game? The Coler Bowers Stadium. Yeah, they ripped the roof off of the stadium,

uh, in Indianapolis. Uh, all right, big game for Marvin Harrison, Duran Bland, just could not cover him at all. Hmm.

And anything to add here on this game? Cowboys, you want to talk about the Cowboys? I mean, all three of the past catchers were very involved. Seven or more targets is exactly what we want. What would the final score be if the Cowboys played the Bengals? Oh, boy. I don't know how many punts there would be in that game. Maybe one.

After a personal foul penalty, push them back too far on third down to, you know, not go for it. I would say it would be very close to the 47-42 score that we saw from... Oh, I would take the over. 75 to 71. Yeah, for the record, I think this one I brought up many times. I think holding should be a seven or an eight-yard penalty, not 10. Oh, my gosh. We're going to start making non-even numbers or...

Oh, yeah. Holding number 71, six and a half yards back. Yeah. It has to be, what are we in kindergarten? It has to be, we cannot let you be in charge of the rules at the NFL, ever, ever. I really think what I say about the personal foul is, I think if you just think about it,

it just makes sense. And I'm upset that nobody's on board with this. Thomas even sent a chat in the private chat said, let's move on. And he never does that to me. So he thinks I'm way off. That's really disappointing. All right, dropometer.

I don't have a lot here. We'll go, maybe go through it position by position, but Tyrone Tracy Jr. on the dropometer. Not yet. Zero. Keon Coleman. How high? What did I say last week? 11?

12. Yeah. You go 13 on Keon now. By the way, you did, you did win that one, Adam, though. What? Richard Smith versus Keon Coleman. Coleman was better. No, it wasn't really.

Nice. I'm glad Keon won something this year. He does. If you get traded Jacoby Myers? Yeah. Five. Seven. Trey Tucker, if Jacoby Myers does not get traded.

Seven. Xavier Worthy. Two. Jacori Kroski, Merritt. Two. Five. All right. There's a matchup against Miami in a couple weeks.

That's not bad. Giants in Dallas. points to the waiver wire all right we have said a lot of it but at quarterback joe flacco would be the prize if he's available obviously you have to stash him he doesn't have a good schedule but it doesn't really seem to matter the matter no rock purdy and sam darnold who would you prefer purdy or darnold darnold agreed and rogers jamie said not this week but he gets Cincinnati and then Chicago in the weeks after that. All right.

And then Jamie's got Mario One against Detroit. They're 22nd against quarterbacks. It's kind of hard to rate them because they've been so injured. So Detroit, then Miami, then a buy for Marioita. Justin Fields may or may not start this week against Cleveland. J.J. McCarthy against Baltimore, who's been very good the last three weeks against quarterbacks. Gino Smith.

Again, both of those guys, Fields and McCarthy is more. their playoff schedule than it is their current schedule. Okay. And then Gino Smith is more for next week when he gets Dallas. This week he gets Denver. Yeah, although, to be fair, three of five games with Brock Bowers on the field. Forget about what state Bowers was in from weeks two, three, and four. 19 and a half fantasy points are more for Gino in three of those games.

All right, let's, I want to talk about panics here. Because if you need the guy just for this week, because a lot of these guys are kind of on this list, Mariotta, Fields, McCarthy, Gino Smith. At least three of those guys seem to be more for a stash. But who's your favorite quarterback this week, Jamie? It's Mariotta? Yes. All right.

I kind of like Pennix going up against the Colts. Dave, who do you like Mario, or Pennix? I kind of like McCarthy ahead of both of them. And Pennix might be next before Mario. Like, in a lot of leagues, those guys are rostered already. So I understand why Mariotta would be at the top of the list. Okay. And then we have Jacoby percent.

If Jacoby percent were starting this week, how would you feel about him at Seattle? Don't love him. I'd be nervous. Okay. I know he's played great. We've seen other quarterbacks come into games against Seattle playing great and they get stymied. Yeah, Seattle's just a lot healthier than they were earlier in the year, even though they're missing Julian Love, one of their safeties.

there's, and one of their corners got shaken up in the game, but even without him playing, I think that Seattle's defense can, can hang. They'll make it hard on Persec could get to 20 fantasy points, but he's going to be, he won't be a top 12 quarterback. He'll be in that range of guys who have a decent floor, not a high ceiling. And I think McCarthy is in that range, except I think he could have a slightly higher ceiling, not even slightly, a higher ceiling than Jacoby Brissette. I know he's playing Baltimore, but Ravens still aren't developing a pass rush,

and McCarthy looked, I thought he looked good last week. Okay. I just like panics and hopefully a shootout. He just really has to get that second touchdown. That's just that's what it is within. Yeah, throw it to London. Yeah, Drake London and keep running. Like he did a little bit more moving around and running last week.

And it's an easier matchup, no question. All right. So look, we got some good quarterbacks on, on by this week, right? And we got some bad defenses on by, too, with Cincinnati and Dallas. So I could see people needing quarterback this week. Running back, Trey Benson is 78% rostered. I can't believe that. Tyler Alger, 66%.

Devin Singletary, I'm pretty much going to skip this here. But who do you think the best Giants running back will be rest of season? Joe Morris. Jackson, Dark. I don't know if I did that with Starcast It just feels so awful after what we said last week Yeah Okay

It's not like a complete throwaway here They score points You know they And also Singletary was involved right from the jump It wasn't like it was just a fourth quarter They were splitting even early in the game So that stinks But at least the offense is putting up some points

Who's most likely to fumble and get bench for fumbling? I mean Tracy Tracy and sing right that might be enough to tip the scale towards Singletary well Jennings is second on the list Tank Bigsby and Dylan Samson would be worth adding certainly if their starters were out

we're not a check out Jennings Jennings looked a lot like Romandre Stevenson minus the fumbles so I wonder how Romandre is yeah we don't know how long Stevenson is going to be out right but I wonder if the Patriots make it even more of a mess in that backfield Because Jennings, I mean, it wasn't like he was super efficient, but he was a good hammer for them.

And they used him in short yardage. And he was pretty much every single carry right up the middle, whereas once again they were trying to have with Henderson too, though. So many of Henderson's carries. But not quite the same. Henderson, by the way, you look at his stat line, Henderson averaged 3.9 yards per carry. His last carry went for negative 8 yards. He got hit in the backfield. Without that, he was at 4.9 yards per carry.

He's not a pretty efficient game until that last play. Yeah, I just, I don't know if he's a complete running back. I mean, you can tell that the Patriots coaches don't believe that he's a complete running back because they're having them share, even without Romandre there. Okay. And then Emmanuel Wilson is just another name I wanted to bring up because I feel like Josh Jacobs gets banged up every single game now. So Wilson's 46% roster. How about Sean Tucker as a stash? because we don't know when

Bucky Irving's coming back unless Jamie's heard something. I don't know. And Rashad White hasn't been that great of a runner. This is another name. It's got to be in deeper leagues. He's 88% available. Maybe you throw them at the back of your bench

and see what happens this week. Would you drop, oh wait, two more names. Any interest in Chris Rodriguez and Jared Patterson for the Chargers? Also no. I mean, Patterson, I guess, in deeper leagues if you want to handcuff by Dahl. wide receivers then we'll get to oh would you drop would you drop bam night

not yet only if he's taking up your last roster spot and you need the roster spot otherwise no not yet although it will be a lot easier to do if we learn that tray benson's definitely coming back well i mean he just lost his job basically to amari de mercato and now he's playing the best run defense in football granted the majority of the snaps last night you got half as many carries as demarcato he played most inside the five that's true almost 60% of the snaps

demarcados their past they don't want demarcato near the end zone yeah I think he had a couple of runs at least in the red zone yeah someone wants me to say about bam night fool you yep I got fooled no question

all right and I will get fooled again wide receiver we all will Rashid Shaheed Troy Franklin Chris Godwin, Trey Tucker, Juan Jennings, Christian Watson.

Those are the shallower league guys. Who's your favorite there, Jamie? Rashid Shaheed, Franklin, Godwin, Tucker, Jennings,

Watson. Assuming no trade, it would be Franklin. And assuming a trade, maybe Shaheed? Yep. All right. Let's add

Parker Washington, Tori Horton, Josh Downs, Alec Pierce. He talked about Tess Johnson. Darius Sladen could have had

two big games in a row, but had a touchdown call back, and then he dropped one. He's facing the bears who are allowing the second most completions of 20 or more

air yards. So Slayton could be okay that he actually had a decent game at 11.2 fantasy points this past week. Not really feeling it with the Mario Douglas, Jamie?

No, I think you got to just take it for what it is like the Patriot first off we don't know how long booty is going to be out if he's going to be out. And then Douglas has just sort of flashed

the big play here or there. I love them coming into the season and just hasn't played that role. So we'll see if he takes advantage with this. Drake May is just doing such a fantastic job of finding the open guy, making that guy look good for a play or a week, and then just moving on to the next guy. So it could be Douglas's turn.

He's not a bad guy, a bad player to add, a receiver to add once you get through first run, second run, third run of waivers or cheap on Fab. But I just don't want to say must-start player yet. I wonder if the public goes a little more crazy over Douglas because the stat line was so good. and I think there's a chance that the Patriots Bucks game this week

is high scoring. And we know the Bucks run defense is usually pretty good. Patriots, we've already talked about their run offense and the shortcomings that they have. Douglas, if there's no booty this week, could end up getting like another decent target volume week. So maybe for one week you take the chance on him.

Yeah, I was, I'm, it's not as ideal with Christian Gonzalez being healthy. what do you mean well is he healthy though because he's yeah so he said after the game

that he was good he cleared a concussion program oh okay good okay that's good right well that hurts that hurts Tampa more than anything else doesn't it yeah but in terms of shootout though

like we haven't seen that for Baker lately and you know if it's Tess Johnson and Abuka you know where Christian Gonzalez is going Kate out I don't know yeah I don't know that he's gonna do that

Maybe. You think it was a shadow of Buka? Probably. Because I feel like he hadn't been shadowing until this past week against London. Yeah, Drake May has been so good, and he has thrown more than 30 passes only twice this year. And I think they were both losses. Yeah, Las Vegas and Pittsburgh. So hopefully we can get a lot of pass attempts from him.

Calvin Austin's another name on this list. I have some questions from the chat from earlier. Torrey Horton or Romeo Dobbs rest of season. Dobbs. Dubs. Would you drop Tess Johnson to grab Isaiah Horton and stash him? I would. I kind of like Tess more.

Why not Christian Watson? Why not? Listen, he's right guy, right place, right time for Green Bay. Not a lot of healthy wide receivers there. They just lost Tucker Kraft. We'll see what their offense does to replace him. or just kind of change things up. So if he's going to play a lot and we know how explosive he is,

he's going to be in that boom bus number three receiver range pretty much every single week. I saw this just going back to Drake May from Ian Hartett's from Fantasy Life. He tweeted this morning. Wide receiver, highest passer rating when targeted this season, minimum of 20 attempts, minimum 20 targets. Number one, Kishon Bouti, number two, Rashi Rice, number three, DeMario Douglas, number four, Mac Collins. Three Patriots, wide receivers. Unbelievable. tight ends in the shallow league see if mark

Andrews is available and Theo Johnson just keeps scoring touchdowns and doing hardly anything else but he has a good matchup and Andrews you should know like it's it's hard to trust it because the targets aren't usually there but he has two games left against Cincinnati so that's a reason to maybe keep

Mark Andrews and likely too I guess if you want to go that route could be yeah and Justice Hill and Keaton Mitchell JK JK all right Jamie's favorites are Harold Fannin Jr. So if you guys both like the Browns,

tight ends and Colston Lovelin, would you drop Mark Andrews for them? Yes. Yep. Would you drop Theo Johnson for them? Yep. Yes. Okay.

Would you drop Andrews or Johnson for Kate Otten? Yes. Johnson, yes. That's it. I'm done. Would you drop Andrews or Johnson for Luke Musgrave? No. Not there yet, no.

Would you rather have Harold Fanon Jr., Colson Loveland, K.Dott, and David Njoku, or Kyle Pitts, who I believe has an amazing matchup this week. Yeah, the Colts have been horrible. Yeah. Still Pitts. If it's a rest of season thing, I think I'd take Fanon. Maybe Nojoku, too.

The benefit to that is Pits still has his buy coming up, and those guys don't. That's true. T.J. Hawkinson? Anybody want T.J. Hawkinson? No. I'd rather have How are we feeling about

Zach Ertz right now? Not great. His worst games this season have come with Mario. Mm-hmm. It's true. Did McCloren play in those games? I think McClorn played in one of those games. Okay.

And our other names on the list, Luke Musgrave, someone said, can we get 70% of Tucker Crafts production with Luke Musgrave? Yes. I'll say no. Dalton Schultz has been good every week

other than the one that we were really excited to start. I don't know that I trust them because he had about a 40-something-yard catch with C.J. Stroud. He did very little with Davis Mills. It's a great matchup last week. Mason Taylor, who was doing some exciting things and he plays all the time.

And then Joanne Johnson at Carolina. Okay. One more name just for deeper leagues, I think, is A.J. Barner, because he's their tush-push guy. You might sneak a touchdown in there, and he catches touchdowns, too. He scored double-digit fantasy points in five of eight games, and he's got Arizona this week. It's really not a – I'm not making a big case, but – Is there a nickname for him when he does the tush-push?

AJ all day. That's – you just made that up. Yeah. There's no way human beings in Seattle would suggest that as the nickname for AJ Barner. AJ all day The Barner Bus Barner Bus In the Barn

Barns are noble What'd you say? Something worse than what you said Okay DSTs Browns Bills Panthers Bill suck by the way

As a DST And they were bad Against the Dolphins the first game You good with them? I just think that the dolphins are a mess right now so can't hurt. Would you pivot to the Ravens?

I'm sorry to cut you off. Would you pivot to the Ravens knowing that the Ravens schedule is good beyond this week? Yeah. Cool. Obviously the bills played well defensively against the Chiefs,

but they don't typically do a lot of the things that lead to fantasy points. It kind of depends on your scoring. They're good at keeping points off the board. They're not a high sack team usually not getting a ton of terms. Overs.

All right. Anyway. At this point, you're playing against two of them. Yeah. Panthers, Ravens, jets also in the mix. And then a kicker, Chase McLaughlin,

Jason Myers, Josh Cardi, Matt Prater, Will Lutz, and we will talk to you at 1 p. Oh, open the barn door. Not bad.

Barner storming. See, other people are better. Barner storming is not bad. Yeah. Okay. Other people are better with this than we are. But I just want,

Everybody take the next few hours, you know, before we get on CBS Sports Network and just think about the rule change and you'll see that it makes sense. And we'll all have a kumbaya moment. We'll all agree on it. Don't bring it up again on the next show? Don't bring it up again? No. Don't you want to hear Heath's reaction to it? But you can say it tomorrow if you want. Yeah.

All right. Can you do it at the end of the show, though? I think right at the beginning. I think a pre-show, you know, like a separate podcast. We're out of here. Goodbye, everybody. Paramount Podcasts. Now streaming.

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