Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! RBs Galore! (11/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

There are a lot of RBs to choose from this week. Alexander Mattison is the best, but we'll help you prioritize Jamaal Williams, Boston Scott, Sony Michel, Chuba Hubbard and many more. We'll also give ...you deep league options (13:40) at each position including Josh Reynolds and Taysom Hill ... News and notes (19:00) and our Top 3 priorities at each position: QB (26:00), RB (33:00), WR (33:30), TE (36:10), DST (37:40), Kicker and IDP. How much do we like Taysom as he plays with a foot injury? Which Titans RB do we prefer? Are there any good WRs this week? Foster Moreau or Logan Thomas? ... Recapping Seahawks-Football Team (41:00) with our thoughts on Russell Wilson and D.K. Metcalf and what the Washington run game would look like without J.D. McKissic. Then we bring out the Dropometer (45:30) and get back into the waiver wire (47:30) with a longer look at each position ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Get some FFT merch here: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/shop-by-podcast/fantasy-football-today Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:21 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. All right, who is the top priority this week? Are you going after Chuba Hubbard even with his horrible fantasy playoff schedule and a bye week coming up? If Alexander Madison is available, I'll just be the analyst here. Pick Alexander Madison up. But there are actually a lot of running backs you could be looking at right now. And we will talk about all those plus the other positions. What's going on? It is waiver wire time.
Starting point is 00:01:50 It is crunch time, guys. We're into week 13. Dave, we got to get some wins. Yes. We didn't have to before, but now we do. Sorry, my IFB was cutting in and out. Okay, great start, Jamie. Yes, it's time to win. Absolutely, time to win.
Starting point is 00:02:10 No more pins. As opposed to week three when it was time to lose. Yeah, you didn't have to win week three. Or in the case of week 12 between you two knuckleheads, it's time to tie. Ugh, ridiculous. Stinking start of the week gets a tie for Jamie against me in the 2QB League.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I'm a quarterback, baby. Let's go. Yeah, it came through. Quarterbacks. We had a really – I encourage everyone, if you didn't listen to the Monday show, I know it comes out at a somewhat awkward time, try to listen to the conversation we had about quarterbacks. Chris has done some great research on what we've seen over the last five weeks,
Starting point is 00:02:42 and it is really affecting passing games in general quarterbacks wide receivers and jamie when i look at the wide receivers on the waiver wire this week kind of yucky no it's the only position that's bad to be honest with you i mean quarterbacks you have uh potentially three starting options uh running backs are very very good uh the receivers blech and uh the tight ends are good as well it's an unfortunate reality that injuries create waiver wire opportunities, and we still have a lot of those. So let's get to it. Jamie, give me some of the top names this week.
Starting point is 00:03:13 So it kind of depends on what you need for the running backs because, you know, Hubbard is not playing this week. The Titans guys are not playing this week. They're definitely worth adding. If you need somebody for this week, Jamal Williams and Boston Scott are in great spots. I prefer Scott if you tell me Miles Sanders and Jordan Howard are out. But Williams seems the most likely to get the featured role
Starting point is 00:03:31 after what Dan Campbell said on Monday. So you also have Sonny Michel on play too. If Daryl Henderson is out with the quad injury, they get Jacksonville. There are some guys who could help you in the short term. There are guys who could help you in the long term. You mentioned Alexander Madison. Ten-team leagues, he might still be available.
Starting point is 00:03:48 78% is his roster percentage. Spend everything you have left for him because it's definitely looking like two starts and could be the rest of the season. And what we've seen from him in the two starts that he's made, he's been an absolute star. So he would be the priority, clearly, if he's still out there. But you mentioned it. It's not just the, the schedule coming up for Hubbard. It's also,
Starting point is 00:04:07 is he the guy, uh, fully, you know, because Amir Abdullah has, you know, everything Hubbard did when McCaffrey was out early in the season, Abdullah wasn't on the team.
Starting point is 00:04:16 So it was probably going to be a messy situation with a tough schedule, but you can't overlook the fact that he most likely is going to have the running downs role. And then what happens if they continue to lose does he just get everything because why would you try and feature amir abdullah when you might have to feature tuba hubbard to see what you have in the future and the schedule it's a buy this week then it's atlanta after the buy and you might use him that week and then after that it is tampa what new orleans tamp They get Tampa Bay twice, New Orleans once. It's just not good. It's Buffalo in week 15, Tampa Bay week 16, New Orleans week 17.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And then if you do play into week 18, Tampa Bay again. So it's basically as bad as it gets for running back in the fantasy playoffs. Buffalo, Tampa Bay, and New Orleans for Chuba Hubbard. Dave, so, okay, Jamie gave us Jamal Williams, Boston Scott, Sonny Michelle. What about you? Tevin Coleman. No, that's not the answer. Williams is my favorite this week. I think that assuming you can't get your hands on Madison and you need somebody for this week, Williams is the top
Starting point is 00:05:19 guy for me, but let's talk about rest of season. Maybe you're good and you avoided having Christian McCaffrey on Dalvin Cook on your fantasy teams and you're looking rest of season. I'm going to re-rank based on rest of season. If Deontay Foreman's still out there and your league is half PPR or non-PPR, I like him the best. He's still available in 37% of leagues. I think he's best suited for what the Titans want to do on offense. They love that physical run game. They've got a physical offensive line. He's their short yardage goal line guy. I think that he's the one. If you can wait a week for him to come back, I don't know what the schedule is exactly like for Tennessee, but I know
Starting point is 00:05:52 they have some good games left. I like him better than Hilliard, but those two guys should make your list if you're looking rest of season. I also think that Chuba and Matt Breida are kind of close. Chuba is certainly ahead of Breida, but as far as rest of season guys go, I think they should both be on the list. I agree with Jamie that Chuba Hubbard, it looks like he's going to be the running downs guy and Abdullah the passing downs guy.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Whether the Panthers eventually veer from that and give it all to Chuba remains to be seen. There were a lot of games where Chuba just was not very good, and we know that offensive line isn't very good. And if he's not going to get a lot of targets and catches, he's not going to be great for your fantasy squad. Breida is just an interesting pickup because the Bills are looking for something from their run game. He doesn't have a lot of power, but he does have some good speed.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And I think he's a little underrated as a pass catcher out of the backfield. And his role has some room to grow. And so that's it for rest of season, guys. But it's a completely different conversation if we're talking about oh crap i lost alvin cook i lost christian mccaffrey i need guys now no one that i just mentioned can help you because they're all pretty much on by except you said did jamal you said jamal would be my favorite like if i if i had to pick one guy to take off the waiver wire and put into my lineup this week it's's Williams. It's Madison, right?
Starting point is 00:07:05 And then Williams. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. But Madison's already rostered in how many leagues? It's like already in like 75 plus percent. 78 percent. However, Schrager informing me he is 25 percent rostered in ESPN leagues. So that, and they play a lot of 10-team leagues. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:21 10-team leagues. It's crazy. You know, it's crazy. Look at it. You know, I like to take a look at some of the other waiver wire columns because Chris does his early waivers on Sunday night. And then a lot of other sites do theirs on Monday. We do our big one, you know, Tuesday morning.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And so I like to see, you know, some of the other suggestions. And it's just, it's just crazy to me. Some of the other sites where players are available now, our site's a little bit different because, you know, we're still, you know, a paid service. So people are a little bit more vested in it and how they approach things. Yeah, we got serious players over here. It's just crazy to me that some of the players who I see available weekly in other leagues that we just don't see in CBS leagues.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Now, you might see them in some, obviously, but our roster percentages are definitely on a different scale than other sites. I'm going to see what he's at on Yahoo! Leagues. Madison, you might want to check Tony Pollard, too. Pollard, 92% rostered here. Yeah, I mean, what the heck? Yeah. Yeah, so, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Madison is 49% on Yahoo! Okay, wow. All right. I mean, just a huge opportunity for you to have a potential top five, top ten running back in Alexander Madison. Anywhere he's available, please go get him. And then in terms of fab, I don't even know how to have a fab conversation at this point.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It's, you know, spend only what you need to survive. Well, I mean, if you're scrapping to fight for the playoffs, I mean, Lawson Scott and Jamal Williams are must-start running backs this week if their respective backfields are empty. And that looks more likely in Detroit, right? It definitely looks more likely in Detroit, yes. I originally, when I sent you the notes, Adam,
Starting point is 00:08:57 I had Scott ahead of Williams, but in hearing what Nick Sirianni said and hearing what Dan Campbell said, it's easier to look at and say, okay, most likely Swift is going to be out and Sanders might might play now the only difference would be or the only thing to keep in mind would be is that if howard and sanders are out which could be likely because they have a buy next week you know so they could say okay we're going to you know rest those guys make sure they're ready for the stretch run because they are very much in the playoff hunt still um that they don't
Starting point is 00:09:21 want to risk sanders coming back from the ankle injury and if howard's knee is not ready boss scott against the jets is the easiest matchup you'll find you know so uh he he would be the the priority of the guys that are not long-term or Madison you know so I agree Dave Williams right now looks the best but if you get to Wednesday and you're running waivers on Wednesday and you find out that Miles Harris didn't practice and Jordan Howard didn't practice I'm taking Scott over William because Scott Scott's role I'm taking Scott over to Williams. Because Scott's role, I think, will be similar to Williams when everybody's healthy, but the Eagles are running the ball on a much better level than the Lions right now.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And you would say that it's worth it to have Scott for the one game versus Williams for probably one or two games, if not the rest of the season for Detroit? Because they could also decide, look, we're not going anywhere. If they shut down DeAndre, so it's a different conversation. Absolutely. Then Williams becomes more of a priority long-term. But if it's just a one-week situation,
Starting point is 00:10:09 you tell me both guys are the lead rushers in their backfields without the competition that we're used to seeing, Scott by far. Yeah. Not by far, but Scott's the better. Yeah. Both of them. This is going to be a really fun start or sit week
Starting point is 00:10:23 because you're going to get quite, do I start these guys over David Montgomery? Do I start them over Saquon Barkley? Yes. These are going to be pretty high-end guys because they're both... Well, I don't know about Scott having a role in the passing game because if Jalen Hurts plays, he's not really throwing to his running backs much anyway. You don't need it against the Jets.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah, he probably won't need it. But Williams, I'm going to guess he's going to have five catches catches he should and look there's there's two things at play here you mentioned jalen hurt's injury uh boston scott's got a small sample size but he's got three games with at least 11 carries he scored 12 or more ppr points each of those games so when he's gotten work he's been successful with the work um the jets as we know have been bad against the run um eagles have some offensive line concerns especially if you know jason kelsey doesn't play uh but clearly for detroit you have to be watching the minnesota injury report because if they get dalvin tomlinson back michael pierce is expected to return this week those are two significant pieces adam you know this i i wish i would have stuck with it
Starting point is 00:11:19 i sent you a text message last tuesday i think it was tuesday um when I saw that Tomlinson was out, I said, Elijah Mitchell's my start of the week. And then I was just like, you know, I got to see if Mitchell plays. I went through this on, on HQ. Uh, if I known that Mitchell was going to be guaranteed to play on Wednesday, when I write the column, he would have been started the week. Uh, just seeing that Tomlinson was out knowing the Everson Griffin situation and, and knowing that Pierce was out that run defense was a joke against the 49ers. And so it would be a great situation for Jamal Williams if those guys are out. I think Anthony Barr is a huge key, too. And he got hurt in the game.
Starting point is 00:11:51 So if he's not available, we've seen this run defense without Barr before. And it's brutal. So if Anthony Barr ends up missing the game, then I think it's just only going to boost Jamal Williams. Both these guys, Scott and Williams, could be close to top 15-ish if they're guys. I'm starting them over Zeke. I'm starting them over Barkley. I'm starting them over Montgomery, you mentioned.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I'm starting them over any Broncos running backs. I'm starting them over any Patriots running backs. They're borderline. Jonathan Taylor? Let's go for it. It's Taylor, Madison, Scott, Williams right now. You could even make a case of starting him over Kamara. They're close.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Right? Because Kamara is going to be a Thursday game, and hopefully he's healthy. He was limited in practice yesterday. So this is going to be a very heavy running back show. We do have to talk about all these situations. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to make the case even to pick up Jordan Howard. He might be a sneaky guy.
Starting point is 00:12:42 You don't have to pick him up now because he's still injured. But he might be a sneaky guy. You don't have to pick him up now because he's still injured, but he might be a guy who's in play. And I would say that's kind of a risk with Boston Scott. I wonder what the depth chart looks like if all three running backs are healthy. I just want to bring that up. But yeah, I mean, obviously, there's a huge opportunity for Scott.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Even if only two running backs are healthy, it's kind of what I talked about last week going into the Giants game. We do have the Q&A tonight, so you can hop on in there. We'll have more information at that point and listen to the updated waiver wire takes and ask all of your questions. YouTube.com slash FantasyFootball today.
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Starting point is 00:14:10 All right. Let's go to deep leagues. All right. If you're sitting there, you're going, hey, idiots. Boston Scott, Deontay Foreman. That was two weeks ago. I can't get those guys. Jamie, who are the guys who are just barely rostered right now
Starting point is 00:14:26 that might be available in deeper leagues? At running back? Whatever. Yeah, whatever. I mean, at running back, you're looking. Maybe Matt Breida's still available. He's at 18%. That would be the first one I'd look at.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Tevin Coleman's at 16%. Those guys kind of go hand in hand in terms of what you think of them moving forward. You could look at DJ Dallas with the hope that maybe things change in Seattle's backfield from a carry standpoint. Dallas Collins just is not getting the job done, and Dallas obviously is the better in the passing game with five catches. As long as Rashad Penny and Travis Homer remain out,
Starting point is 00:14:58 Phillip Lindsey's at 14%. I would say deep, deep, deep, deep leagues. You could look at Jared Patterson just in case McKissick is out. He didn't touch the ball last night, but at the end of the game, he was the one playing an obvious passing down situations when Gibson came off the field after McKissick hurt his neck. So just keep an eye on that. Receivers, there are, and then you could look at Austin Walter too.
Starting point is 00:15:16 You know, he did have a touchdown for the Jets as they continue to work through their Michael Carter absence. The receivers, there aren't a lot, but Josh Reynolds and Juwan Jennings are the two that I would look at. Reynolds scored a touchdown. Maybe he's going to be the guy for Jared Goff. There's a relationship there for those two. Remember, when Reynolds joined the team was when Goff kind of got banged up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And so then we saw the Thanksgiving Day game and they connect for a touchdown. And then Jennings gets an opportunity over the next two weeks to get a bigger role without Debo Samuel on the field. We know he's not going to do what Debo Samuel does as a rusher, but clearly there'll be some target opportunities for him, and they've been raving about him for the last couple weeks as you've seen his playing time increase. Tight ends are easy. Foster Moreau is the prime, and he's a flex play too, clearly. Taysom Hill is 12% roster.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That's where they're going, yes. So widely available. What about MVS? Isn't MVS available in almost three quarters of leagues? Yeah, if you want to carry him through his bye, sure. He's playing a lot more lately. Targets have been up the last two weeks. So sure. Good call. And yeah. What about Kadri?
Starting point is 00:16:12 Well, Kadri Allison, if he plays this week, he's got the bucks. That's a bad sitch. That stands for situation. Rashad Penny, I know you said DJ Dallas, but I feel like Rashad Penny would have the best chance of becoming the running downs guy. Obviously, there was there was some talk going into last night. They're going to put him on IR. So I don't know if you want to carry him. Yeah, I guess not.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I thought about that, too, when I was I just finished writing the running backs for waiver wire and I looked at Penny. And when I saw that report, I was like, doesn't seem likely he's going to play anytime soon. That's a shame. It's they really it's sad to see the Seahawks this way. It feels like the end of an era. Boy, they stink. Hey, can you make DK Metcalf the start of the week,
Starting point is 00:16:52 please? We need some good vibrations for him. Oh, where's Prisco? You want to sweat it out for three and three quarters until DK Metcalf does something? That wasn't fun. That wasn't a fun sweat with Russell Wilson. I bet you thought you were going to cruise after the first touchdown.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I did. I did. He didn't play well, Wilson and a lot of obvious open throws that either he overthrew or didn't even see people wide open. And then I thought, okay, if he hits a two point conversion, I'm going to have a really big game because he's going to get some,
Starting point is 00:17:24 some production in overtime. So, yeah. But despite the struggles, he was the number eight quarterback, tied for the number eight quarterback with Derek Carr. If he hits a two-point conversion, he would have been number seven, and I would have beat Adam and Artuky Beal. Yeah. Well, if he had gotten a two-point conversion,
Starting point is 00:17:41 obviously my Terry McLaurin would have gotten some garbage time catch for three points. So I would have beaten you. Potentially, but I still had Russ and Gerald Everett. Sure, but, oh, that's right. We would have had overtime. We would have had overtime. Yeah, that's what really pissed me off.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Gerald Everett. When Gerald Everett caught that touchdown, I was like, oh, I'm screwed here. I was like, let's go. It was a battle. It was a battle it was a battle you know i don't know about you guys i'm in a lot of leagues where it is just these last two weeks it is so bunched up that league um the the podcast leagues it's just bunched up oh yeah who won in the podcast league oh my gosh you my jalen hurts christian m McCaffrey. I have A.J. Brown in that league.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, that was, you kicked my butt. So congratulations. Thank you. All right, so those are some deep league options. And we'll get to news and notes in just a second. For a limited time, switch to Shopify point of sale and you could save up to 20% and improve your bottom line. We're so serious about savings,
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Starting point is 00:19:20 wait and see second one that he's playing through his second second? He has a torn leg room in the other? His right shoulder's got a torn leg. Oh, my. Okay. He's a tough guy. Debo Samuel expected to miss one to two games. Ezekiel Elliott could have a reduced work. I don't know what to do with this Zeke stuff. It's like the worst matchup
Starting point is 00:19:39 on a short week-ish. It's a full week, but we don't have until Sunday. But we don't have until Sunday to make decisions. We have to make tough decisions on Thursday. Well, he was a full participant in practice, which is a great sign if you're still relying on him. Is it, though?
Starting point is 00:19:52 Because he was a full participant last week, and he wasn't good, and he didn't really get a good workload. Well, so the question of if you don't have somebody else, would you rather have what Zeke has been giving you, or would you rather have the option of sitting him to avoid the pitfalls? And both sides obviously make sense, depending on which way you go. I think from the standpoint of what Zeke has done and probably will continue to do work in the passing game because they love him in pass protection and probably get short yards opportunities, touchdown opportunities. And so those touch, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:23 it's like, if you tell me what he did against the Raiders is what I'm going to get. I don't love it. It's not the Zeke I signed up for, but I'm still starting him. Here's the problem with that. He has six catches in each of the last two games and they were both losses and no Cooper in either of them and only a half of Lamb. Oh, delicious. So he's usually more like a three-catch guy. I don't know what to expect in that regard. Yeah, again, I don't think it's, okay, I love this Ezekiel Elliott, but I'm just saying the roles that he has, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:58 short yardage and goal line touches, plus he's still going to get carries. And so, like you said, you know, it's a game that they should, at least you alluded to, a game game they should probably win against the saints we would have said the same thing though against the raiders last week um so i don't i'm not ranking zeke i don't know where davis i'm not ranking zeke where i usually have him he's still a top 24 running back for me uh he's still ahead of pollard in ppr leagues because of his role in the passing game but i'm i'm not getting completely away from him. If I pick up Boston Scott and Jamal Williams,
Starting point is 00:21:28 am I going to start them over Zeke Elliott this week? Yes. But as long as those other guys are out. But I think in terms of where Zeke is right now, I'd rather have him playing if I need him as opposed to unless I have a good bench that I can send him now. I think that's the frustrating part too too, is the Thursday aspect of it, because I feel pretty certain
Starting point is 00:21:47 right now that DeAndre Swift isn't going to play, but the Eagles situation is obviously a lot cloudier, and so Zeke's just going to be kind of annoying. And honestly, I think a lot of people are going to want to start Pollard over him, but who are you guys going to rank ahead of him? I'm sorry, who are you going to rank ahead?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Pollard or Zeke? Zeke in PPR, Pollard in none. I'll take Zeke in both. Okay. All right. More news. Christian McCaffrey out for the season. And Miles Sanders dinged up.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Daryl Henderson quad strain. We've alluded to all of these already. Swift likely out. Pat Fryermuth concussion protocol. Darren Waller is week to week. They have not ruled him out for this week's game against Washington, but he is week to week, so we probably would not expect him, and that's why Foster Moreau is a decent pickup. Had a huge game in the one
Starting point is 00:22:33 game that Waller missed. That was against the Eagles. So we expect Lamb and Cooper this week? Yes. Cooper returned to the team on Monday. Is still on the COVID list, but expected to be off of it before the game. And Lamb was practicing in full and is out of the concussion protocol. Kamara was limited in practice. That's a good sign.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Jalen Hurts, his availability is in question, Dave. And if Hurts doesn't go, how much would that change your feelings on the Eagles running backs at the Jets? I'm still going to love the Eagles running backs against the Jets. They're still going to be able to run the ball effectively there. Not having Jalen Hurts might make them a tad less efficient, but I still think the workload will be there, if not even a lot more, just because the Jets' offense is so putrid. It's going to be Gardner Minshew under center,
Starting point is 00:23:24 and he can do an okay job managing the game. Hot take. As a Devontae Smith manager, I am pulling for Gardner Minshew. Interesting. I just think he'll throw more. Oh, it's definitely possible. Think about what he did with P.J. Tarkov.
Starting point is 00:23:39 What'd you say? There's a squeaky wheel game coming for Devontae Smith. Yes. Possible. That was actually addressed because Smith was hollering for the ball and Sirianni explained the coverage that the Giants were playing. It just wasn't the right time to throw. It wasn't a good play for him, whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:54 He wasn't the option. But he did want the ball at the end there. And let's see. Minnesota's Patrick Peterson on the reserve COVID list. Jamie, Minnesota is your number one waiver wire DST this week against Detroit at Detroit. Do the injuries matter? Not for this week.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I mean, you saw the Bears were beat up last week. You know, you don't really need a standout member of your secondary against the Detroit passing game based on how this team operates. And so it's not as appealing, clearly. but if you look at the options available to pick up for defenses and DSTs this week, there aren't a lot of great ones. So I still stick with the Vikings, and they're still going to be a top five DST for me this week. Every single DST to play against Detroit this year has put up at least eight fantasy points
Starting point is 00:24:39 in a typical scoring league, and a bunch have put up double digits. Yeah. And Cliff Kingsbury hopeful that Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins will play this week. Why would you go to Oklahoma if you're coaching in the NFL? I wouldn't do that. Because the money is just as green there as it is in Arizona. But it's a much more prestigious job. Is it?
Starting point is 00:25:01 I think so, in the NFL. And you don't have to recruit. You don't have to go traveling recruiting that i don't think that's supposed to be so annoying but if if if fantasy football nerd alert.net came to you adam and offered you triple your salary there's no way they're offering this conversation live on the air i hope you are if they offered you triple your salary would you at least think about it for thirty thousand30,000? Yes, I would definitely. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:25:28 They're not going to offer him triple his salary. He's an NFL head coach. I think he would have a lot more job security, though, in college because he'll probably do great. He'll get a college job
Starting point is 00:25:37 whenever he wants it if he gets fired from the Cardinals. Not every day. It doesn't matter. Does he want this job? Right. Or, yeah, hey, come to Miami. We'll take you.
Starting point is 00:25:46 All right. I'm sorry. What was that? I said triple salary, not half your salary. Okay. That's pretty much it. There's some other stuff, but it's boring. So let's go to the top three priorities at each position.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I just want to add one thing because you mentioned Kamara. Mark Ingram practiced in full. So he should be good to go and still has flex upside even with Kamara playing. Wait, so I should drop Tony Jones after last week? Yeah, that's probably safe.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Okay. Top three at each position. Jamie, give us the quarterbacks. Taysom Hill would be one. Just, you know, you saw what he gave you last year and hopefully that's the type of performance you get moving forward.
Starting point is 00:26:23 22 or more fantasy points in three of the four starts that he made. Number two and three, I go back and forth on, but I'm going to give Tua the number two spot because it makes sense. And I'm going to give Heineke the number three spot. Tua has played great as the Dolphins have put themselves in playoff contention and has a good matchup against the Giants. Heineke has played great as he's helped the Washington football team get in playoff contention, but Tua's stats have been a little bit better and I trust him a little bit more right now taking on the Giants, even though Heineke has played great as he's helped the Washington football team get in playoff contention. But Tua's stats have been a little bit better, and I trust him a little bit more right now taking on the Giants. Even though Heineke has a good matchup against the Raiders, I think you'll see the Antonio Gibson show, who's got an unbelievable scenario if J.D. McKissick is out.
Starting point is 00:26:58 So, Taysom Hill. The situation is different than last year, obviously. Two main reasons, I'd say. No Michael Thomas. And now you've got this foot injury. And if he can't run, that's going to be problematic. So, Dave, I'll let you get in there first. What do you expect from Taysom Hill? As Jamie mentioned, three very good games. And the only game that he didn't – well, three good games.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Three solid, startable games last year out of four. The only game that wasn't was that wacky Denver game where Kendall Hinton was the quarterback. He didn't have to do anything. Right, exactly. But what do you think this time around? Is it as appealing, half as appealing, three times as appealing like the Oklahoma job?
Starting point is 00:27:34 What do you think? We're looking at a quarterback who's given us some good numbers in the past. We know what his upside is and what his potential is, and there is some long-term ramifications if you're streaming quarterbacks. It's the only reason why I'm putting him ahead of Heineke on my quarterback list. I think he's the top guy to get.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You're speculating. You're hoping that the foot injury isn't that big of a deal and that you're hoping that it not only doesn't impact his ability to run, but also his ability to throw. Footwork is a huge part of what makes a quarterback great and what makes a quarterback accurate. So hopefully all that's there it's i don't think it's such a bad injury that like they they that he can't play the coaching staff obviously likes him and they are willing to
Starting point is 00:28:16 give him the chance to play so if they're willing to give him the chance to play the foot injury shouldn't be that big of a deal he's number one i think heineke's got a little bit more upside than tua does so he's second for me but all three tasem taylor tua the t's triple triple t's at a quarterback and so you're going you're going heineke second dave i am okay jamie's got heineke and tuaua basically tied. I think you said Tua makes sense to be number two. Is that because of his first name? Of course. And also the matchup against the Giants.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And I think you see just the pass volume, what they're doing. Even in a game where they're up 33-10, he threw 31 times. So they're going to throw and throw and throw and throw and throw and throw and throw. But he throws five yards. He's got the second lowest A-dot or average intended air yards per pass attempt in the NFL ahead of only Jared Goff. Yes, true. But you're also looking ahead with him. And Fuller and Parker will be back.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah. Do you think the Giants are an easy matchup? I mean, they probably won't have a DeRay Jackson. I don't think it's a run away from matchup. Right. It's a decent matchup. But I also think the Las Vegas matchup is good for Heineke. Heineke, man, he's got some bad touchdown luck.
Starting point is 00:29:33 He gets a lot of one-touchdown games. But he throws for a decent amount of yards, and he can run a little bit, too. He was close to having two touchdowns on Monday night. Exactly, yeah. My problem with Heineke is that I feel like he's inconsistent where one game he's going to look great. Like he didn't have great fantasy numbers in, in week 12, but he still looked pretty good for most of the game, but he's had games where he's
Starting point is 00:29:56 just looked awful. Yeah. I'm, I'm hoping if you're starting him, it's with the hope that he has a good game, doesn't play like crap, and hits his upside, which is probably in the neighborhood of 24 fantasy points. And against Las Vegas, I think that's doable. And to be fair, I can't say that Tua's getting guys back. He just got Logan Thomas and Curtis Samuel back,
Starting point is 00:30:17 so hopefully those guys not on a pitch count will help. But maybe losing McKissick also is a counter to that because he's been such a valuable role in the passing game. Sure, but they can also use Gibson and Patterson in the passing game they're not quite as well Patterson isn't as explosive as McKissick we'll see about Gibson I guess it's fair to say that Gibson isn't either but they can fill in that role so usually streaming quarterbacks wasn't a huge thing this year just because the top 12 quarterbacks were so consistently good, but things are changing.
Starting point is 00:30:46 So we don't have Rodgers this week or Cam Newton or Ryan Tannehill or Baker Mayfield. But are there any other typical must-start quarterbacks that you're thinking about streaming Taysom Hill ahead of? He's right behind Russell Wilson right now. I wouldn't have a problem putting that in Russell Wilson after last night. Um, Kyler, you know, if you don't have Hopkins and we don't know how good, you know, Kyler's health is, um, I would play Kyler over Taysom Hill right now. But those, those two are close.
Starting point is 00:31:16 How about Stafford? Uh, no, I'll stick with him. No, I'm starting Stafford. Okay. And Josh, Josh Allen against the Patriots. Yeah, I think Taysom's better than Josh Allen. It's basically the Patriots. How about Garoppolo and Wentz? Where do they factor in here?
Starting point is 00:31:35 Wentz would be ahead of those guys. Garoppolo, well behind. Because of Debo, I assume. No, Debo and... I mean, look, give Seattle's defense credit. They played well last night. They kept them in the game. I know the last drive, it seemed like they were on the field for a ton, but they were on the field a ton the entire game.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And the fact that they were able to get some, keep their down stops, I thought was pretty impressive for the way that the game was going, because it was three and out, three and out, three and out for Seattle almost all night long. And Seattle's defense has to be tired. Let me tell you something. They have played 807 plays.
Starting point is 00:32:12 They've been on the field for 807 plays. The next three teams behind them have all played an extra game. So the Seahawks, when you just look at teams that have played 11 games, they lead the league in defensive snaps to begin with. But if you just look at teams that have played 11 games they lead the league in defensive snaps to begin with but if you just look at the teams that play 11 games they have 807 the raiders are second at 749 it is unbelievable they are so bad at time of possession their defense is consistently on the field and somehow they're keeping them in games so good for them okay what
Starting point is 00:32:40 happens when you don't have a run game yeah a hundred percent and they're the worst third down team too right that's more important it's Yeah, 100%. And they're the worst third down team too. Right, that's more important. It's the third down conversions. But they're related. Exactly. And did you see this? I'm sorry to detour here.
Starting point is 00:32:52 We'll get to the running backs in a second. We've already talked about a lot of them. That going into the game, and I feel like it didn't change. I don't know this for sure. The Washington football team has had third and one. Every single third and one, they have run the football. Every one going into the Seahawks game.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And I want to say they did it all throughout the game too, but I thought that was amazing. All right, running backs. Dave, the top ones to look at. Okay, we got Madison. We got Jamal Williams. We did this segment already, but you could run through it again. Oh, the wood's going to hate you. Oh, the wood.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah. Jerk. Madison, if he's there, you're getting him. I think Scott over Williams, if it's non-PPR half PPR, full PPR, I'd give the nod to Williams over Scott. That's as of now. That's as of assuming that DeAndre Swift is not playing and that Sanders
Starting point is 00:33:41 and Jordan Howard will not play for Philadelphia. If you can wait a little while, Foreman and Hilliard are the guys to go and grab off the waiver wire as spec ads, stash plays, etc., etc. Okay. All right, Dave, I'll give you the wide receivers. Who are your favorite wide receivers this week? Does Van Jefferson qualify making the cut? He's available in 31% of leagues.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Is that too low? Well, you can imagine how many leagues leagues is available in on other websites. Right, right. So in other leagues, he's going to be available. I think he's the best guy to go and get it wide receiver who can help you in week 13. Jamie's right. It's not a great crop after that. Reynolds is someone I think is decent.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I think he's usable in week 13. It just gives the Lions a downfield threat as well as a short area guy and a size guy on top of it all. He's just not a great player. But I think he's going to continue to get targets. Russell Gage has gotten a lot of targets. He's basically PPR only. And then the Giants have this guy.
Starting point is 00:34:37 They've really rarely used him until last week. They gave him more targets. His name is Kenny Galladay. Might be a decent bench receiver. Might have a couple of weeks where he pops toward the end of the year same thing with Kadarius Tony and both those guys are available in less than half of CBS leagues but we know that other sites they might be way more available and they're worth at least stashing I would say on the bench last receiver I'll mention is Rondell Morey 70% available on CBS decent spec ad and PPR. I think there's going to be some sentiment for Kendrick
Starting point is 00:35:05 Bourne. I'm seeing a comment here Bourne deserves mentioning. He does. He really does. I think that's Mac Jones' guy. Right, but what about they got the Bills this week. They have a bye coming up, I believe. And then they have the Bills again.
Starting point is 00:35:20 The secondary is a little bit different from Buffalo now. I agree. The thing about Bourne is he's touchdown dependent. I mean, you know, he hasn't had a lot of games with heavy target volume, heavy catch reception, heavy reception totals,
Starting point is 00:35:31 excuse me. Um, but he's finding the end zone and that's where Mac Jones is looking at, you know, between him and Hunter Henry. So it is a matter of, you know, will he disappoint you at some point when you start to buy in?
Starting point is 00:35:41 And that's the fear with somebody like this. But, um, for me, once you get past the Giants guys, it's all a crapshoot, and even the Giants guys are a crapshoot. So I would look at Galladay first
Starting point is 00:35:50 with the hope that getting the other guys back as well will open some things up for him. And then you look at Bourne second behind Kenny Galladay. When you talk about the Giants guys, can you please remove the word shoot from your statement when you talked about being a crapshoot? There you go. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I know where you're going with that. Could have been a more obvious joke, I guess. All right, Jamie, who are the top tight ends? Logan Thomas, I think, is still one. But Foster Moreau is right behind him, just depending on how long Darren Waller is going to be out. Thomas, you know, depending on what side of the equation you're on, should have had a touchdown last night against Seattle. But, you know, hopefully more playing time leads to better production.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And we saw what he was at the start of the season. And then Moreau had one start so far this year in place of Darren Waller, and he had six catches for 66 yards in the touchdown. It was against Philadelphia. But, you know, hopefully that's a go-to guy now for, uh, for Derek Carr and then Cole Komet coming off the eight catch game against Detroit. You know that there is no Allen Robinson as of now, uh, Robinson continues to be out two of the last three games for Komet. Uh, he's been heavily involved, still looking for his first touchdown,
Starting point is 00:36:58 but, uh, not a bad starter in PPR. He's basically the new Dan Arnold. Um, you know, a guy that will catch the ball a lot and may not do a lot with it, but should get a lot of targets in his offense, especially if Andy Dalton is still a starter. Don't forget James Oshag Hennessy or James O'Shaughnessy. If you want to go past the top three, I think Gerald Everett and O'Shaughnessy are...
Starting point is 00:37:17 Oh, Everett. I didn't give you Everett this morning when I first sent you the notes, but I neglected that. No, I should have gotten that one too. He's clearly getting a bigger role. He's not bad. He's the new DK Metcalf. Hey, this jigs.
Starting point is 00:37:33 All right, Dave, you want to do DSTs and IDP? I'm not ready to do DSTs, but I've got IDPs. All right, so Jamie, give me the DSTs. Yeah, the Vikings would be one. It was pretty remarkable that the DSTs that were held for some teams on a bye, but the Vikings would be one. I'm going to buy into the Chiefs defense playing better. I'll put them two.
Starting point is 00:37:53 They're not a must-start DST, but Denver dealing with a banged-up Teddy Bridgewater, that could certainly help. Banged-up O-line, too. And the Bengals, I put third, even though you never know which Chargers team is going to show up. If they let Justin Herbert throw and play free, I think they're going to put up points. If they don't, then they'll be a little bit more of a stagnant team. And the Bengals' defense coming off a real strong game against Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I'm going to give you three more that might be available in some shallower leagues or some other websites. Rams against Jaguars. Yep. Eagles at the Jets. Yep. Dolphins against the Giants. Cardinals against the Bears, too. Oh, perfect.
Starting point is 00:38:28 All right. Who, who, give me your two favorites from that group. Oh, Cardinals would be one and Eagles would be the other. Ahead of the Rams? Oh, I'm sorry. Rams number one. Okay. Rams, Cardinals, Eagles, Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Rams, Eagles, and Cardinals are all top five DSTs for me this week. All right. What if Zach Wilson doesn't play? Maybe we have to sink the Eagles. Right. You got to change the Eagles a little bit. Kickers, Jamie? Daniel Carlson.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Hard to overlook what he just did. You know, still kicking it home. So don't worry about any weather. Matt Gay against the Jaguars. Same situation. Coming off a poor game for him, but still trust him against Jacksonville. And then Matt Prater against the Bears. I'll buy back into Prater even though he was
Starting point is 00:39:11 a mis-fest. And some people were suggesting to choke him in week 11. Okay. And IDPs, Dave. Kyle Van Noyes put up double-digit points or ppr what the hell uh tackle points in leagues where full tackles count for a full point he's been uh really good the last three
Starting point is 00:39:34 weeks he would be a top guy to add bradley robey with the saints at db is another one he's put up some pretty good numbers lately uh jay ron curse in dallas i would actually put him ahead of robey his numbers have been great at least nine in three of his past four games. And Jalen Phillips, if you're looking for a defensive lineman, might be out there. He's had a decent game and a great game over the last two weeks. One more. Aziz
Starting point is 00:39:55 Alshair. This is assuming that Dre Greenlaw's injury for the 49ers is significant. He had been a really good linebacker for the Niners, and now he might have an opportunity to step up again if Greenlaw is out. Okie dokie. So let's go to Washington and Seattle. Who had more of a touchdown catch?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Logan Thomas or David Njoku? Well, didn't the Njokus count? Yeah, it did, and Thomas' didn't. I think that both calls were right. I know people were flipping out about the Njoku thing, right in the sense that they shouldn't have overturned it. I don't know that it was right, but I think they did the right thing keeping it.
Starting point is 00:40:39 There were some bad calls this weekend on touchdowns. What else? What am I missing? What was bad? The Van Jefferson touchdown, I believe, was called in, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You mean, right, they got off the turn. That was bad.
Starting point is 00:40:56 There was one with the Titans. There was a call in the Tennessee game. Yes, the Westbrook touchdown that was very obvious that they called a no-touchdown. Oh, that was terrible. Yeah, right. That was terrible. All right, so anyway,
Starting point is 00:41:09 to this Monday night thriller, 17-15 the score. Seattle had the ball for 18 minutes and 20 seconds. Washington had the ball for 41 minutes and 40 seconds. What is the impact of the J.D. McKissick injury, Dave,
Starting point is 00:41:21 if he's out? If he's out, I'm sure you'll see Jarrett Patterson start to work in as the secondary back behind Gibson. I'm not convinced that he'll be the passing downs back just because he filled that role on Monday in the wake of the injury. I think it'll be a little bit of a reevaluation.
Starting point is 00:41:38 It makes me a little bit worried that maybe Gibson loses some of that rushing downs work because Patterson's better there than he is in the pass game. But I think it really does make Gibson the potential to be the workhorse that we all dreamed about back in August. The timing's great. It's terrible that it's happening to McKissick, especially
Starting point is 00:41:56 in a game where he had two touchdowns. I think that there's a real opportunity for Gibson to finish the year strong. Or at least have a strong game. He's three in a row now where he's just gotten a lot of work. And you know what? Washington is playing better. They're playing better.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Their offensive line's playing great. Their strategy overall is better. I think their defense has improved as well. Don't they have the last playoff spot now in the NFC? I think every team is within a game of the playoffs except for
Starting point is 00:42:25 the Lions. They're still on the hunt for the division. If the Cowboys lose this week, then it becomes pretty interesting. They've only played one division game. Well, that's probably a good thing for them. They got a lot of Eagles and they got one game against
Starting point is 00:42:41 the Giants coming up, but two against the Cowboys. That'll be a determining factor. And the Eagles are right there, too. Anyway, Gibson is a must-start. McLaurin's still a must-start. Yes. Yep. He's got four games this year with 103 or more yards and at least one touchdown. He has seven games with 62 or fewer yards and no touchdowns. It's been a frustrating ride, but you start them. It's been the Tyler Lockett ride.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Those two were the Spider-Man meme against each other. Is Lockett better than Metcalf rest of season? Oh, boy. No. I'm going to guess there's a squeaky wheel game coming for Metcalf. Lockett's been cruising. No one's asking about whether or not to start locket anymore which is great and i'm not sure there's going to be many people asking whether or not
Starting point is 00:43:31 they start metcalf moving forward the problem is that seattle started it we touched on it with everett they wanted to get everett more involved that came at a cost lockett only had five targets metcalf only had four metcalf i don't think even got a target till the second half goodness this team doesn't have the ball that much either so until they can really work out all their problems I don't see there being enough
Starting point is 00:43:55 for all three Lockett, Metcalf, and Everett to be you know slam dunk productive in fantasy Metcalf has played seven games with Russell Wilson, with Wilson starting and finishing, and he has more than 65 yards once in seven games.
Starting point is 00:44:12 That's unbelievable. I think Lockett has 95 or more yards in four or five of those games with Russell Wilson starting and finishing. So it's strange, and it's disappointing. I know I have Metcalf in one league league and there's no way I'm sitting him. But he gets double teamed all the time. And his quarterback isn't the same.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I mean, look, next year, Daniel Jones to DK Metcalf will be just fine. Oh, please. I'm assuming that means Russell Wilson's on the Giants. I'm all about that. You can take that for whatever you want. Okay. That's what I would assume, yes. I think maybe the Giants cut Daniel Jones,
Starting point is 00:44:50 the Seahawks sign him as a backup, and Wilson gets hurt. Oh, they're going to send him there with some draft capital. Two first-round picks? Yep. Okay, I think that's pretty much it. I mean, yeah. I mean, do we need to talk about the Seattle run game?
Starting point is 00:45:04 No. There is one. Well, where are you ranking Russell Wilson this week against the Niners? Outside of the top 12. All right, 13 for Jamie, outside of the top 12 for David. It'll be lower than that for me. Lower than that. Let's go to the drop-o-meter.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Here we go. Cam Newton, 87% rostered, going into a bye. Cam Newton, 0-10. 10. How about Emmanuel Sanders and Cole Beasley? Now, you can pick up Newton for week 14, but I wouldn't hold him now.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Okay. Beasley and Sanders. Sanders is a 10 in any format. Beasley is a 4 in PPR and a 10 in non-ppr works for me this is a tough one michael gallup 85 rostered coming off a 100 yard game but you know the circumstances zero to ten on gallup i'd like to keep him if i also have cooper or lamb if i don't have those guys on my team, he's going to be on my bench.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I'm probably not going to feel good ever starting him, so he would be close to nine on the dropometer. He's a three for me in any format. I want to see what happens when everybody's healthy. We saw week one, seven targets and a half in a game where they had to throw. We've seen this defense become a little bit leaky, and the run game is falling apart.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I don't want to get rid of him yet before he continues to be a significant... Like, I'd rather have Michael Gallup than Cortland Sutton right now, for example. Yeah, that's fair. He's on the drop a meter, too. How about Jerry Judy? We can just go ahead and give him the 10.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Jerry Judy? You know, that's a close one between Gallup and Judy. I'd probably still rather roster Judy, but this is becoming a little frustrating with this Broncos offense. This is an interesting week because they're in typical Chiefs land where they're chasing points, like we see with a lot of Chiefs opponents
Starting point is 00:46:50 in the Patrick Mahomes era, which I haven't seen a lot this year. Then hopefully Judy gets a spike in targets and finally starts to play well. But they're going to be very run heavy, as we've seen, and the quarterback play has been bad, as we've seen. So Judy's getting very close to being cut across the board. I'm hanging on to him in all my PPR and half PPR leagues. I would say he's a six on the dropometer and non-PPR. Kenny Galladay, 60%.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Zero. He's a bench guy. Mike Davis, 70% rostered. He's a waiver wire guy, 11. Rashad Bateman, 74% rostered. I want a waiver wire guy. 11. Rashad Bateman, 74% rostered. I want to hold him for another week,
Starting point is 00:47:28 so I'll say four at most. I'll say eight. You can let him go. There are too many other players that we've talked about on the waiver wire that I'd rather have than Bateman. To the waiver wire.
Starting point is 00:47:40 We're going to repeat some names and we'll go a little further in depth here. So quarterback, we've got the two guys who are in the check to see if available lists would be Derek Carr and Carson Wentz and I did add Garoppolo there but Jamie did not was not into that he's 74% rostered and uh no Debo and a tough matchup well I think you're starting to see the the ceiling also you know it was two games over 20 fantasy points five games ago, or five and four games ago.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And then the last three, 19 points or less. Like, where is he living for the most part of the season? He's living under 20 fantasy points, right? And so is that a guy that you want to roster and trust when you have Tua, I think, as a higher ceiling? Heineke, I think, as a higher ceiling. Wentz, who, you know, certainly shown you as a higher ceiling in a greatke, I think, as a higher ceiling. Wentz, who's certainly shown you as a higher ceiling in a great matchup this week.
Starting point is 00:48:26 So I just don't know how many people should be trusting Garoppolo. And this was kind of Heath's point, counter to what Dave and I said this weekend, was for a guy throwing under 200 passing yards back-to-back weeks, you're relying on touchdowns. And when the touchdowns go away, this is what you get. Oh, okay. So the thing with Garoppolo is, yes, you're talking
Starting point is 00:48:46 about weeks 10 and 11, less than 200 yards, but he threw 19 times and 22 times. Yes, 10 and 11. This past week, he threw 26 times for 230 yards. I'm going to guess his yards per attempt is really good. I don't think he's going to have to throw a lot against
Starting point is 00:49:01 Seattle. It's not an appealing setup. But I just think Garoppolo is playing pretty well. Then again, obviously the Debo injury is huge. We don't have to talk about Garoppolo anymore. So Derek Carr, how much do you trust him with that stinking Mariota guy there doing his Taysom Hill impression? That part stinks.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Against Washington, he gives up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. They just let Russell Wilson, of all players, score 22 points. And somehow Tom Brady did not. As far as the top 10 quarterback this week. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Even without Waller? Yeah. All right. How did he do without Waller for most of the game against Dallas? Yeah, he scored 22 points. It was an overtime game. He threw for 373 yards.
Starting point is 00:49:51 That's true. I'd take him over anybody that we've already talked about, or at least the waiver wire quarterbacks that we talked about. Yeah, I would start him over Kyler this week. I'd start him over Russ. I'd start him over Heineke. I'd start him over Tua. Oh, man, I can't wait to talk about this because this is risky
Starting point is 00:50:07 with the way Washington is running the ball and controlling the clock lately. Agreed. I like the boldness. Carson Wentz or Derek Carr, guys? Wentz. Carr.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Wow. Okay. And then... So the Colts running the ball doesn't factor at all that's a good point yeah it's fair so right he threw 20 went through 20 times last time they faced houston he scored 20 points but you can't imagine a lot of volume there for once no okay so then tasaysom Hill. The one time they had to throw recently, they lost. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:50:51 He throws a lot more in losses than wins. All right, Taysom Hill, Tua Tungvaluwa, and Taylor Heineke are the top three. That's the order for Jamie. For Dave, it's Taysom, Taylor, Tua. Taysom Hill, Taylor Heineke, Tua Tungvaluwa. I think if it's strictly for one week, I might go Heineke over Taysom. Taysom's ahead of Taylor just because of the rest of season factor. And then you add another Taylor. You got Terod Taylor, who's an option here against the Colts.
Starting point is 00:51:18 They are third worst against quarterbacks, although they've been better lately. Yeah, yeah. I mean, once you get past the top three guys, it's all risky. So I think when you look at Taylor to Rod Taylor, it's nice that David Cully said he's still the guy, but you imagine if he's struggling again, they're going to pull him. And then he hasn't exactly played great in the three starts that he's made
Starting point is 00:51:39 since coming back from the ankle injury. But the nice thing is, is he's running 23 or more rushing yards in each of the three starts that he's made recently and probably chasing points against the ankle injury. But the nice thing is he's running 23 or more rushing yards in each of the three starts that he's made recently and probably chasing points against the Colts. Daniel Jones at Miami. This is just kind of desperation. And then Mac Jones against
Starting point is 00:51:53 at Buffalo and then a bye. That's it. Okay. Running backs. We don't really have to do this again. I'll throw in some more names. What about Devin Singletary he's 75% rostered how do you feel about him so he had
Starting point is 00:52:09 more touches than Matt Breida in the Thursday game he played late in the game obviously when the score was well in hand but Breida outperformed him in terms of yards he scored the touchdown he's playing more on passing downs when the game is in control or game is in competitive
Starting point is 00:52:24 and so I think Breida you know has shown you the last three weeks that he's got an opportunity when the game is in control or game is in competitive. And so I think Brita has shown you the last three weeks that he's got an opportunity maybe to be the best running back in Buffalo. We'll see if that's the case rest of season. But Singletary should absolutely be rostered. You're still looking at a guy that's been more than adequate every time Zach Moss has been off the field. And so he's in the flex discussion, certainly against the Patriots defense that has struggled against the run.
Starting point is 00:52:45 What do you guys think about this? Both guys should be rostered. I don't know how good you'll feel starting them against New England this week, Tampa Bay next week. I mean, New England has had a really up-and-down run defense. I agree. A lot of terrible games, usually bad in the passing game against running backs. Yep.
Starting point is 00:53:02 They're going to dare to go to run. Right. Yeah. So, but let me, what do you think about this? game against running backs. They're going to dare to run. What do you think about this? In that Thursday game last week against the Saints, Matt Breida had eight carries in the first half. Devin Singletary had four. In the second half, it was 11-1 Singletary. Does that mean anything to you?
Starting point is 00:53:19 Or could that just be a week-to-week fluke thing? He was the clock killer. I think it's almost like Singletary is replacing Moss and Brita is replacing Singletary. Yeah, it could be. So who would you rather have, Singletary or Brita? Still Singletary. I'd rather speculate on Brita.
Starting point is 00:53:36 It's fair. Okay, now given all the things we've said about Chuba Hubbard's schedule and the fact that he has a bye this week, should he actually be kind of far down the list behind Jamal Williams, Boston Scott, behind even maybe a Sonny Michelle? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:51 It depends on what you need because we could get to the end of the week and Miles Sanders and Jordan Howard are playing and DeAndre Swift made a miraculous recovery and he's back. And then what are you looking at? Backup running backs where at least this guy has startup potential
Starting point is 00:54:03 for the rest of the season. So if you need somebody for this week, obviously you're not picking up juba hubbard or amir abdullah if you need somebody rest of season you should absolutely be picking up those guys ahead of jamaal williams and boston scott and i don't think we've talked enough about sony michelle but quad strain for daryl henderson and 20 what do you have 20 carries three catches in the one game he played without daryl h. Week three against Tampa Bay. Yeah, and they should be leading, should be able to run the ball against Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:54:30 And then you never know, it could linger for Daryl Henderson. So, Michelle, 41% rostered. Okay, Deontay Foreman. Dave, you like Foreman better than Hilliard? I do. Even in PPR. I think he's their best replacement for
Starting point is 00:54:47 Derrick Henry. And Hilliard was great in the passing game two games ago. Didn't do a lot in Week 12. Jeremy McNichols will eventually be back. Does Hilliard still have that role when McNichols is healthy? I don't think Hilliard nor McNichols will take away a significant
Starting point is 00:55:03 amount of the work from Deontay Foreman. Okay. Would you guys rather have Foreman or Hubbard? Hubbard. I would rather have Foreman. All right. Jamie, how about Tevin Coleman and the Jets guys?
Starting point is 00:55:16 Coleman's only 16% rostered and had 16 carries last week. Yeah. I mean, he's clearly the lead guy, you know, based on how they use Ty Johnson and not throwing the ball, which is the appeal for Ty Johnson. And then working the lead guy um you know based on how they use ty johnson and not throwing the ball which is the appeal for ty johnson and then working in austin walter you know i think all these backfields you know dave mentioned mcnichols coming back i wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:55:32 surprised if mcnichols comes back and it just becomes messy for all those guys because clearly hilliard was more explosive than deontay foreman ever will be and the one carry that he had for the touchdown run um so that's a messy backfield the panthers backfield is going to be messy backfield the jets backfield is going to be messy until michael carter comes back and that's now two games away so it's two tough matchups as well so i i mean yes you should be adding tevin coleman should be adding these guys but they're not standout must start guys rest away they're they're good for now again with the the options of maybe William, Scott, and Michelle. But in terms of the guys that have potential starting jobs for the foreseeable future without injury concerns they have to worry about,
Starting point is 00:56:11 and what I mean by that is McCaffrey's not coming back. Michael Carter, you know, is out for two games. Those are just messy situations. Yeah, we kind of identified last week for Tevin Coleman as his best chance to have a fantasy impact. Looking at the upcoming schedule. I hope, I wonder if they gave Austin Walter the touchdown because it was a
Starting point is 00:56:28 homecoming for him. He's a Houston guy. That was really, they gave him, I think they gave him red zone work. Give him nine carries. More carries than, than Ty Johnson for what that's worth.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah, it's pretty annoying. All right. I think they wanted to see what he could do. Jared Patterson, Philip Lindsay, DJ Dallas, some speculative ads there.
Starting point is 00:56:50 David Johnson, he wasn't on the list. Any interest in David Johnson? Nope. Or Rex Burkhead? Okay. And then I just, again, I want to throw out Jordan Howard because I think it's possible. It's possible he has a role this week if he plays, especially if Sanders is out.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I even feel like he'd be ahead of Boston Scott because he was ahead of Boston Scott when Sanders was out. I think he deserves a bench spot for sure. And not everyone's going to be thinking about him, so you could make him your last waiver claim and just stash him. Wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Jamie put Calvin Ridley in the column. We have no idea, but you know what the potential is if he comes back. And Van Jefferson is another guy that is available in only 32% of leagues, but would be, as Dave said earlier, probably the number one wide receiver option. For this week and rest of season. Dave, you talked a lot about the Giants guys. You didn't mention Sterling Shepard, probably because he's making almost no progress. But if they're all healthy, is he the best one?
Starting point is 00:57:50 He's got 17 or more PPR fantasy points in all three of the games he did not leave with an injury. He'd be the one that I would trust, especially in PPR. Hopefully there's some good news eventually. Would love to see him back. Yeah, the Patriots guys are next on the list behind the Giants guys for Jamie.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And it's, you know, unfortunately, it's Buffalo, then a bye. So what about A.J. Green? You know, he wasn't bad earlier this year.
Starting point is 00:58:16 He's 59% rostered. Jamie, do you have any interest in A.J. Green? Absolutely. I mean, you know, you're looking at a guy that, well, first off, I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Absolutely, if DeAndre Hopkins is out. Because you get Kyler back and then you have Christian Kirk green and Rondell Moore is the top three guys, you know, so, and he had 11 PPR points in his last game before their bi-week, you know, so a little bit of a bounce back game with Colt McCoy. And so, you know, you kind of know what you're getting from him. I think he's a decent floor, not very high ceiling. So if Hopkins doesn't play, then yes.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And then Dave mentioned Rondell Moore. The hope would be is that what we saw prior to the bye week where he had a zillion catches and no yards with it, but certainly involved in the offense. And without Chase Edmonds on the field, which he's not coming back yet, he feels more like the pass-catching running back option, even though he's not lining up and playing in that particular role all the time. And then we have partial owner of the Houston Texans, T.Y. Hilton.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yep. Just every game. He's only had one good game this year. Well, he caught a touchdown last week. It was against the Texans. He had four catches for 80 yards on four targets. So he's just got this thing in his career. He is dynamite against Houston.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Russell Gage going against Tampa Bay. Gage is, you know, not a lot of yards. Doesn't usually score. He did last week. He started to play a lot more on the outside this year. So the versatility is helping him out, but I don't think he's like a downfield threat for Atlanta at all. He's the guy that Ryan's turning to when every defense is double-teaming Kyle Pitts. Josh Reynolds is someone Dave mentioned earlier. He's got Minnesota this week with no Patrick Peterson most likely. No pass rush.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yep. Jawan Jennings for San Francisco. Almost had two touchdowns, but that's obviously a deep league option. I'm going to throw a few names at you. How do you feel about him? Deshaun Jackson against Washington. You'd have to be desperate to start him in a non-PPR league.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Levisca Chenault. You'd have to be desperate. Nick Westbrook on a bye, but is he the number? He led the team in receiving with 25 yards last week. I bet you could pick came up on a bye week
Starting point is 01:00:25 right i bet you could pick him up saturday night or if you wanted to carry him if he were if he were playing i mean what's your general interest in nick westbrook or nick westbrook akina depending on what site you're on uh still minimal i mean hopefully julio jones is back he's got one more week out and then aj brown is back they're just not going to throw these guys a ton. All right. Tight ends. Logan Thomas. I mean, he might be one of the better pickups outside of running back. This week? Yes. He's got the best
Starting point is 01:00:55 schedule of any player at any position. I don't know this for sure, but I feel comfortable saying it. It's the Raiders who are second to last against tight ends. The Cowboys. The Eagles who against tight ends. The Cowboys. The Eagles who are the worst. The Cowboys again and the Eagles again. So, Logan Thomas,
Starting point is 01:01:12 58% rostered. Foster Moreau. Jamie, you like Thomas better than Moreau? I like Thomas better than Moreau. There's more long-term appeal. Dave, how about you? Moreau or Thomas? Thomas. Thomas could evolve into a must-start fantasy tight end.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Finding one of those guys off the waiver wire at this point in the year is amazing. What if you're the Waller manager and you just want a guy for one week? Thomas or Moreau? I'd still take Thomas. Same. Cole Komet. Now you see Arizona, they are best against tight ends, but
Starting point is 01:01:44 they really have not played any good ones except for Kittle, basically, who had 101 yards and a touchdown. So Komet. Jack Doyle is also on this list. He's got five to seven targets in three straight games, and he faces the Texans, who have given up the sixth most points to tight ends.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And James O'Shaughnessy. O'Shaughnessy had five targets last week after the injury to Dan Arnold, and he had eight targets in week one before they had Dan Arnold, and then he got targets in week one before they had Dan Arnold, and then he got hurt in week two. So I know it's not... Don't forget Everett, too.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Gerald Everett. So if we're re-ranking the tight ends, where's Everett? I put Everett fourth behind Thomas, Moreau, and Kemet. Okay. And I put Doyle behind O'Shaughnessy. There's always Tyler Conklin, too. What do you guys think about him going up against Detroit? I think you've kind of seen when the matchup is fantastic,
Starting point is 01:02:31 he does well, and when the matchup is iffy or bad, he does poorly like he did last week. I know Detroit is technically 14th against tight ends, but it's a pretty good matchup, although they did very well against Conklin earlier this season. Hey, don't start Tyler Conklin. Just don't do it. They did allow 10 half PPR points to
Starting point is 01:02:50 both Kemet and Jimmy Graham on Thanksgiving. Yes, yes indeed. And the DSTs, the Vikings, the Chiefs, the Bengals, would you sit the Patriots DST or the Bills DST in that matchup, those two teams facing each other?
Starting point is 01:03:05 Would you sit the Patriots or the Bills for the Vikings, the Chiefs, or the Bengals? I'd try to. I don't want to sit the Patriots DST because we've seen Josh Allen in some tough matchups really struggle. And I'm not going to roster two DSTs if I have the Patriots right now.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I know you have to do it next week with them on a bye. So if you want to look ahead and there's somebody you can use for two next week with them on a bye, so if you want to look ahead and, you know, if there's somebody you can use for two weeks, then that's a different story, but that's a tough roster move to have to make with all the other moves you might be making now. So I still trust the Patriots, DST,
Starting point is 01:03:34 and we really haven't seen Mac Jones in a tough game lately, you know, so this is going to be a tough game for him. Tough defense. I think it will be. And the kicker streamers are Carlson, Matt Gay, and Matt Prater. And my final thought, guys, is that we saw what football looks like when you don't have any kickers. We saw that yesterday with Washington, where they, instead of kicking the game-sealing field goal, they had to go for it on fourth down. And it was awesome. So this whole banned kickers
Starting point is 01:04:04 thing could make its way to the NFL if they want a better product, I'm just saying. And it was awesome. So this whole band kickers thing could make its way to the NFL if they want a better product, I'm just saying. And that is it for today's show. We'll see you tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern. Thank you very much for watching and listening. We'll make your waiver claims. It's going to take you a while tonight. Clear some space on your schedule. And we'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today. It's the season for new styles, and you love to shop for jackets and boots. So when you do, always make sure you get cash back from Rakuten. And it's not just clothing and shoes. You can get cash back from over 750 stores on electronics, holiday travel, home decor, and more. It's super easy. And before you
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