Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Shepard? Carr? Any TEs? (09/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 21, 2021

Are we buying the hot starts from Sterling Shepard, Cordarelle Patterson and Derek Carr? We'll give you our top waiver wire priorities for Week 3 (6:45) with Rondale Moore getting some love as well. A...nd how much FAAB are we spending this week (14:30)? ... News and notes (16:30) and then the top 3 options at each position. QB (23:00), RB (30:00), WR (31:40), TE (34:00), DST (39:00), Kicker and IDP as well. Teddy Bridgewater or Daniel Jones? J.D. McKissic or Alexander Mattison? Any interest in Tim Patrick? Who the heck are you going to add at TE? ... We recap Lions-Packers (43:30) and get into the frustrating Lions backfield, get the Dropometer out (49:10) and take a longer look at the waiver wire at each position (52:00) with names like Sam Darnold, Darrel Williams and Austin Hooper discussed ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Good morning, everybody. Happy Tuesday. If you had Aaron Jones, probably congratulations. I actually had Aaron Jones in one league and lost. Played against Aaron Jones in one league and won. So you never know.
Starting point is 00:01:39 We'll recap the Monday night football game. Packers get right a little bit, and the Lions come back down to earth. Adam Azer, Jamie Eisenberg, Dave Richard. Of course, we're here to talk about the waiver wire. Guys, I think it's an interesting week because you have to kind of decide how much you're going to buy into some players with, you know, underwhelming track records
Starting point is 00:01:57 who are off to good starts. Derek Carr, Sterling Shepard, Cordero Patterson, they come to mind. I'll remind you, I looked at my waiver wire notes for going into week three last year after the first two games. Robbie Anderson was 70% rostered. Corey Davis was 62% rostered. They were two of our priorities, and they broke out.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Also, Nikhil Harry and Russell Gage were coming off big games in week two. So you don't know which way it's going to go. But Jamie, as the guy who writes the Waver Wire column, what was your overall impression of the Waver Wire options this week? It's not great. You know, there's not a lot of great, you know, standout players
Starting point is 00:02:36 for guys that I think are new to the list. Because we've been saying Sterling Shepard for weeks, clearly, you know, for weeks clearly you know pre-seasons you know pick him up he could be the best giants wide receiver and he's proven that through two weeks um uh jd mckissick you know was dropped after a disappointing week one and now he's all of a sudden looking like uh a very good option you know for for week two but he's going to be inconsistent most weeks the tight end group is terrible you know so it's uh and and the quarterbacks while decimated by injuries thankfully no superstars you know so the guys that you're looking at like you said their car
Starting point is 00:03:16 tell you bridgewater daniel jones uh i don't think most fantasy leagues have the need to start them in one quarterback league these are more 14 team league type of guys that you may be streaming. So it's not exactly like, like last week we were, you know, in some cases running for Elijah Mitchell with the hope of what he could be. And there's not that type of player. I don't think unless Shepard is,
Starting point is 00:03:40 is still available in your leagues, maybe Ronda more. Yeah. You mentioned Teddy Bridgewater. I mean, Bridgewater is another guy I should have included in the track record list. I read this yesterday on the show. If you didn't hear it, this is from the Associated Press. He became the fourth player in NFL history, Teddy Bridgewater,
Starting point is 00:03:56 to open a season with consecutive games in which he had two touchdown passes, no interceptions, and he completed 75% of his passes. You mean that's not sustainable? Well, look at the company he's in. Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Jeff George back in 1994. It is a tremendous start to the season for Teddy Bridgewater. It makes you wonder what he could have been if he didn't have that devastating knee injury. Not that this two-game sample size is an example of the heights that he could reach.
Starting point is 00:04:24 One thing that I found fascinating, we had Jonathan Coachman, the coach who's the host of the early edge podcast on with us on, on FFT on HQ eats the last two days, Sunday and Monday. And on Sunday show, he brought up a fascinating stat for those of you that like to make a wager or two that Teddy Bridgewater is the best quarterback in NFL history of covering on the road. He's now 23 and three of covering road games. What? How weird. All right, Dave, get in there. What do you think about, about the way that's pretty cool. What do you think about the waiver wire? Hold on. First, I'm checking to see when
Starting point is 00:05:01 the Broncos next road game is at Pittsburgh in Week 5. All right. Saving my money for that. Thank you, Jamie. Thank you, Coach. The waiver wire this week. I think there's some interesting wide receivers. Jamie talked about Shepard. I think he's the gem of the bunch. I think Rondo Moore is legit. I really love the fit in this offense. I don't think he's going to get a lot of 77-yard touchdown catches. You mean wide open ones? the fit in this offense. I don't think he's going to get a lot of 77-yard touchdown catches. He's got that catch and run ability
Starting point is 00:05:27 and he's really good at getting open. Perfect fit for that offense. I think there are some interesting tight ends too. It's going to make your skin crawl to hear Evan Engram as a potential guy to pick up off the waiver wire, but I love the matchup against Atlanta this week. It looks like he's trending in the right
Starting point is 00:05:44 direction to play. If I'm streaming tight ends, that's somebody who i'm going to keep in mind when i'm looking at that position and then running back speaking of skin crawl there's cordero paterson who look he just had two touchdowns but there's a chance that his role increases because mike davis really isn't getting the job done. He had a couple of nice runs in week one, a couple of nice plays in week two. Maybe the Falcons just keep on utilizing him and he's certainly going to catch some passes.
Starting point is 00:06:13 So if you're, if you're hurting at running back and you're not ready to quite buy into McKissick, certainly in a half or a non PPR league, maybe Cordero Patterson, maybe there's also some good stash guys this week that we'll talk about later on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:27 All right. So what we're going to do is we're going to give our top three priorities or three-ish right now. We're going to talk about Fab. At some point, we'll give our top three at each position. We'll recap Monday Night Football
Starting point is 00:06:35 and then we'll go deeper and about 45 minutes into the show, we'll go deeper into the waiver wire and also tell you who to drop. So also, I want to tell everybody I'm getting a lot of emails, a lot of tweets. I'm 0-2.
Starting point is 00:06:46 What should I do? Look at your team. If you believe in it still, then don't panic, okay? If you have Justin Herbert, I know a lot of people have Justin Herbert, they're 0-2. He has been very unlucky. He's playing pretty well.
Starting point is 00:06:58 They've left a lot of points off the board, interceptions in or near the end zone, those types of things. So he's a guy that I think you just don't panic. You got an extra game this year. So pick the good year to go 0-2. Don't freak out and don't sell low on your players. And use your IR spots. Some guys are going to go on IR. Not going to happen tonight, but maybe you want to pick up Tyrod Taylor. He's been really good. I don't know. If you have an IR spot, it's a free ad once he goes on IR.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Michael Hasty would be the first one I'd look for if he goes on IR. And Jeff Wilson is only 6% rostered. So pup IR, whatever it might be, use your IR spots to your advantage. All right, Jamie, give me the top three waiver wire priorities. We haven't even talked about Alexander Madison. I don't know if he would be one for you. We haven't seen anything on Dalvin Cook who got hurt twice in that game, including once late. But who are your top priorities?
Starting point is 00:07:48 The first two are easy. It's Sterling Shepard and Rondell Moore. You just look at what, again, Shepard has done and what Moore did last week. On top of the big play, the nice thing about Moore, what you like to see from rookies, is his snap count increased from week one to week two.
Starting point is 00:08:04 So that's something that clearly is showing that they're trusting him to be on the field a little bit more. But those two guys are easily the top two for me. And then number three, I think, would still be JD McKissick in PPR. As Dave said, if you want to go quarter-old Patterson and non or half PPR, I get that. It just feels like that was a fluky game. Whereas at least McKissick, you have a year of seeing what he can do in this offense as a pass-catching back. So I'll take McKissick as the third guy. Okay, so that's Shepard, Rondell Moore, and McKissick.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Shepard, 54% rostered. Rondell Moore, 44% rostered. And McKissick, 58%. Last week, Jamie, you said, well, Naeem Hines, he's a priority. He's about 70% rostered, but that's probably every PPR league. But McKissick was probably dropped in some of those leagues. He was.
Starting point is 00:08:49 You legitimately can go get him. In two of my PPR leagues, for sure, he was dropped. And dropped smartly before the Thursday night game, so nobody could pick him up. So, you know, we'll see in those formats what the rush is to add him. But you just have to understand, with both the top two running backs in terms of McKissick and Patterson, and like Dave Dave said there's going to be some other guys we'll mention but those I think are going to be the two in terms of the ones that are available you know now now you
Starting point is 00:09:12 extend the number of what we typically talk about so James White non-PPR I think is worth adding still or half PPR for sure you know he's at the above the threshold of what we talk about so you know like I I see the early waiver columns that come out you know like's at the above the threshold of what we talk about so you know like i i i see the early waiver columns that come out you know like chris i keep mentioning this you know chris does a great job chris towers is a great job sunday night doing this and a lot of other sites do this to get ahead of you know the the the waiver columns that come out on tuesday um but uh white is not available for us but if he's available he's easily the top running back to get in the same vein adam like you're talking about of you know ppr versus non-ppr in terms of where these guys are rostered
Starting point is 00:09:47 but yeah um you know i i just think for patterson and mckissick it's uh it's not consistent they're not going to get consistent production from those two guys all right it's in that same vein just running backs that might be available like on a miracle like they're available in less than 30 percent of leagues not only is james Wyatt out there in 23% of leagues, Tony Pollard, 29% of leagues, and he looked low-key. He looked better than Zeke. So I wonder if there's a chance that he could start eating into Zeke's work a little bit more
Starting point is 00:10:18 and certainly be used in the passing game. He looked fine. Sonny Michel is out there in 29% of leagues. We know that there's a rib injury for Daryl Henderson. Maybe that opens the door for Michel to be the passing game. He looked fine. Sonny Michel is out there in 29% of leagues. We know that there's a rib injury for Daryl Henderson. Maybe that opens the door for Michel to be the lead back against Tampa Bay in week three. You'd have to be desperate to use him.
Starting point is 00:10:33 If you're asking me who my top three are off the waiver wire this week, I'm bypassing all the running backs. I don't want anything to do with them. Give me Shepard. Give me Rondell Moore. Give me Michael Pittman. Pittman barely makes the cut. He's available in only 34 percent of leagues so you said you don't want to have anything to do with who sorry i would prefer not to need a running back this week off the waiver wire i think it's going to be bad if you're reaching for mckissick or spending your fab on him
Starting point is 00:11:01 or patterson and i guess we can't forget forget about Madison because it does sound like there's a quote little ankle sprain for Dalvin cook. Just a little ankle sprain. I don't know what that means. Listen, Dalvin cook last year, he faked us out like three times. Okay. This is what he wants. Like once a week, 17 game season, he's going to be among the leaders in touches.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I don't see how you could keep Alexander Madison on your waiver wire. Especially if you've got Dalvin Cook in your line. Yes, you've got to have Madison. Alright, so Shepard, I want to ask you guys about Shepard. So far this year, seven catches 113 yards and a touchdown
Starting point is 00:11:39 against Denver. Nine catches, 94 yards on 10 targets at Washington. Now it's four straight games going back to week 16 and 17 of 2020. Four straight games with nine or more targets. He's caught 80.5% of his targets in that stretch. He's averaged
Starting point is 00:11:56 12 yards per target. So his 16-game pace based on those four games is 132 catches, 1,584 yards and 12 touchdowns. I don't know what to make of this. You got Galladay. Kadarius Toney's obviously not a factor.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Evan Ingram hasn't played, and I do think that's a pretty big deal. But, and you know, and I wouldn't think he'd have a lot of touchdowns because Daniel Jones doesn't throw them. But he's 54% rostered. Would you drop Brandon Ayuk for Sterling Shepard? Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yep. Would you rather have Chase Claypool or Sterling Shepard rest of season? I'm not saying drop Claypool, but would you rather have Claypool or Shepard? Shepard and Peep. Shepard and Peep. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:37 There you go. Hold on, hold on. If Deontay Johnson, it sounds like he escaped serious injury on the last play of the game in week two. If Johnson were for some reason out for the year, I'd say Claypool in all formats. Oh, man. Okay, how about
Starting point is 00:12:51 you're going Sheppard over Galladay? Yeah, there's going to be a speaky-wheel game, though, against the Falcons, so just keep that in mind with Galladay this week. After screaming at Jason Garrett or Daniel Jones, whoever he was yelling out in the sideline, plus the matchup, this is just an easy week to get Galladay going. So, you know, just don't be surprised if Galladay has a better game than Shepard just because
Starting point is 00:13:12 of, you know, touchdown potential and downfield opportunities. But Shepard, I think, is still going to be the best Giants receiver the rest of the way. Okay. I think I might make some, I don't have Sterling Shepard, but I might make some trade offers if have sterling shepherd but i i might make some trade offers if people are really buying in this much should i should we really be buying in this much i mean it's 19 targets in two games it's a quarterback that's behind a shaky offensive line that's gonna you know look for guys that are closer to the line of scrimmage as opposed to down the field he has no rapport with galaday yet and you know i'll go back to what i said about
Starting point is 00:13:43 the titans that you know all the missed time for those, you know, I'll go back to what I said about the Titans that, you know, all the mistime for those guys, you know, you saw the, the certainly better connection between Tannehill and Julio Jones in week two, that I think you're gonna start to see that happen with Kenny Gallaudet. And again, this is the week for it to come.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Then why is it? So then that's exactly my point. You know, that's why I don't think Shepard's going away. I don't think he's going to, I don't think he's going from 19 targets to three, you know, or nine targets to three,
Starting point is 00:14:05 you know, that he's had nine targets each of the last two games, but I don't think he's going from 19 targets to three or nine targets to three. He's had nine targets each of the last two games. But I think nine to six. He's going to be, I think, a lot of six for 70, those type of games on a bad week. All right. He still has that PPR floor of 10 to 12, 13 points. I don't think that's ever going to go away. Just look at his game log from last year.
Starting point is 00:14:30 He had a ton of games with four, five, six plus catches. Five catches every game that he and Daniel Jones were healthy. Five or more. We got a YouTube Q&A tonight, Tuesday night at 8 p.m. Eastern. Join us there, youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. Alsoursday at 2 p.m and sunday at 11 30 a.m all eastern uh and then sunday at about 8 or 8 15 p.m we have the recap podcast that we do live so join us at youtube.com slash fantasy football today tuesday night at 8 thursday at 2 sunday morning at 11 30 those are all q and a's we read a lot of your questions and then 8 15 we do the
Starting point is 00:15:02 podcast 8 8 15 something like that, Eastern time. How much fab are we talking for your favorites this week? Oh, it's not much. You know, Shepard, we're available as a 15% guy, I think, in PPR. Less than that in non-PPR. But that's about it. I just can't see a situation, unless we find out come Tuesday evening
Starting point is 00:15:21 that Dalvin Cook's going to miss time, then Alexander Madison will be a 20-plus percent guy, if not more, depending on the news. But I'm not anticipating that, so I wouldn't think it's anything of significance like we saw last week where people were just going crazy for Elijah Mitchell. If Justin Fields or Kirk Cousins are on your waiver wire, are they the top priorities this week? If I needed a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:15:50 if I had Ryan Tannehill at quarterback and I wanted to make a change, going to Cousins is a pretty good move at this point. What about, but you'd prioritize Cousins over Fields? I would. I would take Cousins over Fields and six points for passing touchdowns and four points I might go Fields. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And Fields, we don't know the extent of Dalton's injury, but Fields is going to get his opportunity. All right. We got some news and notes to get to, and we'll give you some more names at each position. We're going to take a quick break here on Fantasy Football today. When we come back, Red Zone Robbie G. Who's that? You can probably figure that out. We're going to take a quick break here on fantasy football today. When we come back red zone, Robbie G who's that?
Starting point is 00:16:27 You can probably figure that out. We'll tell you in a minute. I'll be right back. Yes. The Mannings were back last night and Rob Gronkowski joined them for a very fun interview and red zone, Robbie G that's what he, that's the Nick Navy gave himself.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And it makes a lot of sense. He's been crushing it in the red zone. Do you guys watch a, what, what, what percentage of the time were you on the Manning broadcast? 100%.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Really? There is no chance I would watch the other broadcast ever again. I made a big mistake. I DVR'd the main broadcast and I realized in the second quarter that the Mannings were on and I wanted to watch that. But somebody else was recording a show on my DVR and I couldn't flip to a third channel.
Starting point is 00:17:13 So I was stuck with the main broadcast. I don't hate the main broadcast. I don't hate the main broadcast either, but I think the interviews are fun. I'd rather have the other one. The interviews are fun. McAfee at the end of the game when the game was out of hand was awesome oh yeah he was a goofball uh grok was great the fact that he said not only did he give himself a nickname but the fact that he said i don't watch film now he's obviously joking because i'm sure he watches some film
Starting point is 00:17:37 but he's like i just go to tom every every week and say who's covering me and what do i have to do probably some truth to that. Yeah, it's like he just plays it asleep. It's so natural for Gronk and Brady. Odell Beckham could play this week. He's available in 7% of leagues, so you could take a look at him with Jarvis Landry out. Carson Wentz sprained both ankles.
Starting point is 00:18:01 All right, Carson Wentz, Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, we all expect them out this week, right? Yes. Tyrod for sure. You know, four weeks, I think was the report that Aaron Wilson had.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Doesn't seem good for Dalton or, or Wentz. And then two was the one that we got to keep an eye on just with the rib injury and the pain tolerance. And car, a car is not a certainty. Car is going to play. I mean, yeah. Wentz. And then Tua's the one that we've got to keep an eye on just with the rib injury and the pain tolerance. And Carr. Carr's not a certainty. Carr's going to play. Yeah. Carr and Mayfield are on the injury report, but I wouldn't anticipate them missing time.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Okay. And as far as Andy Dalton goes, the Bears did say he's the starter when healthy. That could obviously change. Look, remember what happened with Terod Taylor last year. If Fields goes out and he's Justin Herbert,
Starting point is 00:18:48 he's not losing the job. So we'll see. Will Fuller back. He's expected to play this week, which is great. Jarvis Landry has never missed a game due to injury. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:19:00 He missed a game. Oh, right, yeah. Yeah, COVID last year on the COVID list. I don't think he's ever missed a game due to injury. He will miss a few weeks in all likelihood with the sprained MCL. Deontay Johnson as Dave mentioned, hurt on the last play of the game.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Not going to be a long-term injury. Hopefully back out there this week against the Bengals. Hopefully a shootout. Leviska Chenault should play this week. Josh Jacobs not looking as good facing Miami. He's quote very questionable for week three. Daryl Henderson got good news.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Please sit, Daryl Henderson. I'm not going to start you anyway. I don't want you to look bad against the Bucs. Just sit. But he has a chance to play this week for those who want to pick up Sonny Michel. Trey Sermon has a concussion. Jermichael Hasty has a high ankle sprain. So what about Kerryon Johnson or Trenton Cannon?
Starting point is 00:19:50 What about Duke Johnson or Lamar Miller or TJ Yeldon or any of the other guys that they're bringing in for tryouts this week? I think Elijah Mitchell is going to play. So he'd be the one I think that you lean on. And look, Trey Sermon is in the concussion protocol. We know he can clear that and still be able to go. So just keep that in mind. But yeah, Kerryon might get elevated. Trenton go. So just keep that in mind. But yeah, carry on. Might get elevated. Trenton Cannon, somebody, if you're in a super deep league,
Starting point is 00:20:08 you might want to just take a flyer on just to see what happens. But wow, it's just amazing what's happened to that backfield. It's not, though. It's predictable at this point. They're like stash guys at this point. Like you need to have deep rosters and empty space. Well, not Mitchell. No, no, no. Obviously not Mitchell, but I don't know how many leagues he's even still out there yeah i'm
Starting point is 00:20:30 see i see what you're saying i'm sorry right but i'm talking about like super deep stats just see what happens you know the niners like to use multiple running backs i wonder if kyle uschek gets in the mix a little bit maybe that's a good call he got him a little bit he got hurt on the show yesterday for you laughing at him about carry-on that people might be going after carry-on very soon. I know, I know. Whatever. I like Cannon better than carry-on.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Carry-on's a perfect fit for San Francisco because he's probably going to get hurt. Yeah. Yeah, no, I texted. I made a trade offer to a 49ers fan. I was trying to give him Mitchell, and he didn't respond. I said, are you going to accept my trade
Starting point is 00:21:05 offer or what? He said, for a 49ers running back, he'll get hurt within the next week or two. Did your other trade offer get accepted, by the way? None of them got accepted. They were fine trade offers, but they didn't get rejected. That's what bothers me. Have the decency
Starting point is 00:21:21 to hit reject. Were any of them sent to me? No, no, it was a different league. The only league I had Eli Mitchell in. Because I have an email filter set up to automatically not see any of your trade emails. Oh, I'm getting a taste of my own medicine. In the podcast league, I was offered,
Starting point is 00:21:40 I'll tell you in one second, it's an intentional Acer trade. It was meant to provoke. Zach Ertz is on the reserve COVID list. Could still play. It's not going to be easy, but could play this week. Amari Cooper has bruised ribs. We're going to have to keep an eye on that.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Big Eagles-Cowboys game. Eagles are going to be without Brandon Brooks. Your team. Yeah, let's go. It's a tough week for us, though. No Brandon Brooks. No Brandon Graham. Graham's out for the year. That's going to be huge for that team. Yeah, let's go. It's a tough week for us, though. No Brandon Brooks, no Brandon Graham. Graham's out for the year.
Starting point is 00:22:09 That's going to be huge for that team. Tough week for us, Jamie. It's tough. TJ Watt has a chance to play this week for the Steelers. I'm thinking we've got to send him some gear, Jamie. Send Adam an Eagles hat. That is not happening. Why? You're an Eagles fan.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Let me ask you this. Your son, Andrew, would you rather have him be a Jets fan or an Eagles fan if he's not going to be a Giants fan? Jets. 100% a Jets fan. 100%. Like his uncle. The heartache he'll be enduring. Yeah, so the trade I was offered in the podcast league.
Starting point is 00:22:41 You guys let me know if I should take this. I was offered Brandon Cooks and Sterling Shepard. Yeah, look, I buy them a little bit, right? For Justin Jefferson and A.J. Brown. I think you should. I think you should accept that. If it was for one of them, that's interesting
Starting point is 00:22:56 because it's a 14-team league and you need some depth. That's true, actually. I don't think I'd do it anyway. I wouldn't do it either, but it makes more sense. I can better that deal, I think, if you're going to give away Jefferson and Brown.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I would think that you would be able to better that deal. Yeah. Let's give some names. Top three at each position. Jamie, let's start with quarterbacks. Let's say Fields and Cousins are not in the equation here. Who are the top three to add a quarterback? For me, it would be Teddy Bridgewater one,
Starting point is 00:23:26 mostly from the one week scenario because of who they get in week three, which is the Jets. So you don't necessarily need to look long-term with him because after this, he gets Baltimore and Pittsburgh. And so we'll see how things go for him after this matchup, but clearly after the first two games and then getting the Jets this week, I like that. Daniel Jones would be second for me. Certainly in leagues with four points for passing touchdowns, you can make a case that he should be first. He's got at least eight fantasy points with his rushing numbers alone in the first two weeks, 27 yards in the touchdown in week one,
Starting point is 00:23:54 95 yards rushing in a touchdown in week two. And he looks better, you know, so we'll see what happens. Then he's doing this without Gallaudet really doing anything. So against Atlanta, that's another great matchup in week three three and then we'll see what happens again with him moving forward and then number three would be derrick car he just can't ignore the way he's played through two tough matchups against baltimore and pittsburgh i know the overtime game against baltimore you have to factor that in but 27 fantasy points each of those two games and uh very strong command of the offense right now which can't run the ball
Starting point is 00:24:22 all right what did you offer me? Antonio Brown. You know what? This isn't terrible. Antonio Brown. It's better than the offer you got. I told you I'd beat it. Mark Ingram and Deontay Johnson for Jefferson. That's right. Ingram's a sweetener. Yeah, look at that. Well, I get to trade one A Brown for another A Brown.
Starting point is 00:24:40 That's a wash. They have the same initials. Yeah. And then I get Deontay Johnson and Mark In room for Justin Jefferson. Just go ahead and hit accept and we can move on. What's your record there? Cause you stacked the draft so you could be awesome. I'm one in one. I'm one in one with McCaffrey,
Starting point is 00:24:55 Jefferson and Brown. Who would have thought that? I do have Hawkinson. Yeah. Hawkinson. We have a, we had a bit of an, I'm pretty happy about Hawkinson.
Starting point is 00:25:03 You guys, you must be feeling great about Hawkinson. Like, uh, both an... I'm pretty happy about Hawkinson. You must be feeling great about Hawkinson. Both of you ended up really loving him. Jamie, I know you were on him super early. Yeah, no, it's exciting to see that he's the only one that's really of significance for this team. Yeah. Like we said.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Exactly. Let's see. No disrespect to Quintus Cifrita. I don't know if we want to get into this now, but we can't. Derek Carr, I mean, there might be something here because they lead the NFL in pass attempts. Now, they had an overtime game, so maybe they wouldn't be number one, but they'd be close. He, in his last nine games, going back to 2020, he's averaging 8.45 yards per attempt. You're taking out the game he left as well.
Starting point is 00:25:42 No. No, that's why I did yards per attempt. Okay. What do you attempt? Like eight passes on the game he left as well. No. No, that's why I did yards per attempt. Okay. What do you attempt? Like eight passes though in that game? Five. Five. But so, fine. In his last eight games plus five more passes. 8.45 yards per attempt. That would be that would have been second best in the NFL last year.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And even if you just look at his full season 7.9 yards per attempt last year. That was fifth best. He just doesn't throw that much. But if they get anything from their wide receivers, there might be something here. I don't remember how doesn't throw that much. But if they get anything from their wide receivers, there might be something here. I don't remember how well he finished the season. 24 more fantasy points, four of his last five,
Starting point is 00:26:14 and you throw out the game that he missed when Marcus Mariota took over. It's four in a row. And so now it's six in a row in that regard that he's finished with at least 24 more fantasy points. So he's playing great. And it's fun to see. And, you know, it ties into another waiver wire guy, which is Henry Ruggs.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You'd like to see one of these guys get going early in the game. You know, it's been total second half performances for Ruggs the first two weeks. But the thing that's nice about Ruggs, and which is hopefully a sign of things to come, first game in his career with more than five targets. So if he can continue to get more work,
Starting point is 00:26:46 you see what the upside could be. Now he's going to clearly be inconsistent. Edwards is going to be inconsistent. Karmis Edwards for a touchdown in that game against Pittsburgh. Renfro gives him. He did? He had one call back. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:57 It was a call back. Yeah, he had a touchdown call back. Yeah. You have Renfro who gives you a good, you know, it's a good, you know, if you were to say just how to build a receiving core, Darren Waller is a number one guy, whatever position you want to put him at, he's number one guy. You have a speed thread and rugs. Who's going to scare the bejesus out of every defense every week because they have to account
Starting point is 00:27:14 for that guy down the field. Edwards is becoming a good receiver, but he's got a ways to go, but he would be your natural two. And then Renfro is a good possession receiver. So as, as just, you know, how it's constructed, it's a good group. You just have to see rugs, Edwards and Renfro step forward a little bit more to help Darren Waller.
Starting point is 00:27:30 And that, if that happens, which we're seeing it, you know, strong, strong week one for, for some guys and strong week two for rugs. It could be a nice group for,
Starting point is 00:27:39 for car, especially they can't run the ball, you know, so this is, I have to rely on him for sure. Yeah. 16 running back runs in week one, 20 running back runs in week two, and they were miserable.
Starting point is 00:27:51 They can't do it. They can't run the ball. The offensive line is a concern for pass blocking now as well. Incognito hasn't played yet this year. Leatherwood, the right tackle, got hurt. Denzel Good, the right guard, got hurt. It's a messy offensive line line but they can't run it so they're going to be forced to throw it a ton and Carr has been getting good production
Starting point is 00:28:08 and I don't know if we made it clear and I was Edwards that had the touchdown called back yeah that's what I meant so he's starting he's he's starting to look like he could be a player too that's a stat he flashes but Carr's my favorite quarterback to pick up off the waiver wire if you want to use Bridgewater for one week I get it it. It's the Jets. But Carr's got Miami. And I don't know if the Dolphins' pass defense is exactly a shutdown unit. Yeah, Dolphins' defense is still good. The score, you say they did that to Josh Allen and the Bills' passing attack. You wouldn't have expected that score to be anything close to what it was.
Starting point is 00:28:41 They got so many short fields because they went for it on fourth down so many times. And they gave the Bills opportunities to just put the ball in the end zone, but they did a great job on Josh Allen. Yeah, and look, he's faced the Ravens and the Steelers. We'll just finish with this. Just a little bit of an asterisk. He didn't have a lot of fantasy points. I don't think he had 20 in
Starting point is 00:28:57 regulation against the Ravens. And the Steelers' defense is falling apart. It wasn't as hard of a matchup. But still, really good signs from Derek Carr. So I guess long-term, Jamie, you had Carr third on your list, Bridgewater, Jones, Carr. But that was not long-term.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Long-term, would he be ahead of Bridgewater and Daniel Jones? I feel more comfortable with him long-term than Bridgewater. I'm curious, though, about Jones because you get these Russian quarterbacks, man. They're difference makers. And if he's going to continue, we know that he's's going to continue we know that he's going to run we know that he's going to run and so chasing points most weeks uh you know i think there'll be some higher ceilings for jones but a lower floor you know so it just depends i think on what you need all right by the way if i start somebody i'm starting car if i have to stash somebody i'm stashing jones okay uh
Starting point is 00:29:41 running i didn't give dave enough credit for being in on TJ Hawkinson, too. I feel like I kind of misrepresented that. We all were. We all were. Yes, and so far, so good. All right, Dave. Who cares? That was so one month ago.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Top three running backs. Who would you add? Dave. McKissick is at the top. I'm reluctant with all these guys. McKissick is at the time reluctant with all these guys. McKissick is at the top, especially in PPR. Madison is going to be second just because cook is beat up right now.
Starting point is 00:30:13 We don't, we, we think he's going to play. He should be fine, but that's a lottery ticket. And then Cordero Patterson is third. I don't love it. And if we're going to put,
Starting point is 00:30:23 I mean, you only asked me for the top three, so I'll stop there. But there's a couple of other names behind Patterson that we'll get to. Go, go, go, go. Well, I mean, if we're going to consider
Starting point is 00:30:32 Cordell Patterson, then we might as well consider other bums like Phillip Lindsay, Ty Johnson. Gainwell isn't necessarily a bum. He's more of like a third-of-the-time player for Philadelphia
Starting point is 00:30:43 who could emerge into a bigger role. So there are some running backs out there that have mild appeal, but no one that's going to help you win your league necessarily, and that's why I'm not nearly as excited to draft running backs or get running backs off the waiver wire this week. There's also Zach Moss, 61% rostered. Devin Singletary has three fumbles
Starting point is 00:31:05 in two games and their moss's role is pretty defined he's going to be the short yardage guy and you know it's only a matter of time before as we saw last year he starts to take on more work so he would be the the third guy i think if you're looking at it for this week and then um michael carter he's with like 75-ish percent rostered. So he's not available in a ton of leagues. 77. 77. All right, but you see if he's available.
Starting point is 00:31:30 They were pretty happy with what he gave them in week two. If you want fake Michael Carter, you can get Ty Johnson. He's 92% available, and they both played the same amount of snaps. All right, Jamie, who are the real – well, we already gave some wide receivers. It's Shepard, Moore, who else? Yeah, I'd put Patrick third. He basically played the same amount of snaps as KJ Hamler, so just keep that in mind.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You know, 51 snaps for Patrick, 49 snaps for Hamler. But we saw last year Patrick was clearly the second best receiver for Denver when there was a guy missing, and I still think that's going to be the case. He didn't have a huge game in week two against Jacksonville,
Starting point is 00:32:06 but three catches, 37 yards and a touchdown on four targets. He had one more target than Hamler, but a lot more production. Hamler had one catch for five yards. So I think it's only a matter of time before there's a little bit more separation for those two guys. Hamler will have a big player too, so that might make things a little bit skewed as things go on until duty's back. But I just feel more comfortable with him. But that know the third guy you can make a case for a
Starting point is 00:32:27 lot of different guys you can make case for rugs you can make a case for uh elijah moore as a candidate you can make a case for darnell mooney who's you know coming off an eight target game and now we'll see what happens with fields you know so there's there's a handful of guys that i think you know can jockey for that third spot uh for me though i'll just take patrick based on what i said about him going into last week and what happened at least coming out of week two. I just want to mention and get your thoughts on it. Rondell Moore, you did
Starting point is 00:32:52 say, Jamie, that his snap share went up. He still played fewer than the other three wide receivers. He's played the fewest of the Arizona wide receivers, fewest snaps. I doubt that matters in week two. Obviously, he's making progress, but just to throw it out there, does that matter to you? Yeah, no, it's look, as we've seen Christian Kirk and week one, two touchdowns, you know, he had five targets, the same amount as more
Starting point is 00:33:13 AJ Green had six targets. They continue to throw to AJ Green. I think they want to get him going and he scored in week two also. So, you know, it's, and this is something I think, you know, people need to realize when we talk about stuff like this, like the 77 yard touchdown was nice. He was standing there wide open. There was not a lot that he had to do outside of catch the ball and run fast. It's something just to take into account, but you're looking at what the long-term potential could be. The long-term potential is they want to feature him to whatever degree they're going to feature him in the crowded receiving core that they have. Hopkins is still clearly the best guy on this team. The second guy is going to probably change on a week to week basis,
Starting point is 00:33:48 but I'm hopeful by the middle of the season, as we've seen with rookie wide receivers, which you always tend to note, Adam is they, they tend to grow into roles as the season goes on. So the fact that a snap count did increase from week one to week two shows that they're putting more on his plate and you just hope that continues to come.
Starting point is 00:34:04 All right, Dave, make everyone's skin crawl and tell us the tight ends to add so let's start with evan ingram he's available in 62 percent of leagues it sounds like he's got a chance to play the falcons got decimated by rob gronkowski in week two got it at a touchdown in week one and uh it's just a good matchup for ingram in week three if you're streaming he's the guy to gravitate toward and then after that it's it's more it's just a good matchup for Ingram in week three. If you're streaming, he's the guy to gravitate toward. And then after that, it's,
Starting point is 00:34:26 it's more names, you know, but you can't really expect a lot from them. Austin Hooper, 56% available with, with Landry out and Odell looks like he's going to play, but who knows to how healthy he is. So maybe Hooper picks up a little bit of slack.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Jack Doyle had a lot of targets in week two after being invisible in week one. And it's Jacob Easton under center, so they probably need some guys that are going to be reliable short area targets. But there's zero chance anyone's trusting someone in the Colts passing game right now. I mean, especially Jack Doyle. At tight end, if you can't get your hands on
Starting point is 00:34:59 Ingram or Hooper and you're streaming, Doyle is going to be the guy you go, what the hell? I wouldn't just say... For what it's worth, the Wentz interception, which was a stupid flip on his part, was going to Doyle on whatever, that little stupid play. I know, it's just the ease factor.
Starting point is 00:35:15 But wouldn't you... Would you not just go back to Cole Komet or something like that? You could. Yeah, I think so. But it's, again, who's available what what you've seen they're they're trying to still figure out this this passing attack i think you know still down hilton last week it was naeem hines and jonathan taylor doing the heavy lifting this week it was michael pitman and jack doyle doing the heavy lifting you know so it's going to
Starting point is 00:35:37 probably change on a week-to-week basis and you know if you want to trust uh zach pastley you trust him too he's got three touchdowns in two games so it's a it's a it's a weird receiving core you know so you're just trying to if you're in if you're in one of these leagues like if you went to juwan johnson and you're and you're frustrated with the saints this isn't this is a potential pivot for you you know so like they've said it's not great options um i would put hooper over ingram just because of health because we just don't know if ingram's going to be 100 back and i do think hooper has a big opportunity in front of him without landry in there but those are the top two guys and i think again it's like the receiving court there's there's
Starting point is 00:36:07 a a much different level though this is the whose third is kind of you know take your pick well i was worried that comet may have passed blocked more last week and technically he did but it was only five passing snaps that he stayed in the block i wonder if he'll do a little bit more of that this week against cleveland because of the browns pass rush. But I also wonder if Justin Fields just looks downfield and doesn't look for the short area targets in the tight end as much as maybe Andy Dalton would. And so if Dalton's out this weekend, it's Justin Fields starting. I can't say that I love Cole Komet. I know we don't usually think of it like this, but does it make sense if you're just so bad at tight end to just take someone on a high-scoring offense
Starting point is 00:36:50 like Dawson Knox, who plays a ton of snaps, caught a touchdown? I know he's not heavily involved, but... Touchdown or bust, right? Yeah, totally. But might as well take a shot on a guy who's on Josh Allen's team rather than Jacob Eason's team rather than jacob
Starting point is 00:37:05 eason's team right yeah but i guess if you're saying that though and and this is where i think guys like nox fall into a little bit of a trap because max williams had a big game last week right that's exactly right scoring offense and you know you you see the target number and then you go okay well kyler murray may be starting to look for him a little bit more that was his best game maybe you combine all of his numbers in his his career and you put it up against what he did in week two. That's probably the same amount of production you're going to get, you know, so you don't want to chase necessarily those type of guys and Knox is better, but you know, like we have the Cowboys guys and you can say, okay, maybe this is a Jarwin week or a Schultz week. You know, that's going to be a
Starting point is 00:37:40 typically a good offense. I think the hope would be is that if you're really stuck at tight end end there's probably half of your league that has a second guy on their bench like a jared cook um i'm trying to think of other guys in that who had a touchdown call back last week right uh you know maybe somebody has higby on their bench johnny smith on their bench you know that there's still something to like about those guys by comparison to the doyles and the dan arnold's and the pat fryer muths of the world and even austin Arnold's and the Pat Fryer myths of the world. And even Austin Hooper and Devin Ingram's of the world, you know, it's like,
Starting point is 00:38:08 yeah, Ingram may come back and be great, but is he going to be great in the context of who he is or in the context of the tight end position? You know, so Hooper may have a big opportunity from him. Is he going to continue to share with Harrison Bryant and, and David Njoku,
Starting point is 00:38:20 or is he going to step forward without, you know, Jarvis Landry there? So it's an ugly week at that position. I would say this is a better week to try and approach a trade scenario as opposed to necessarily being stuck on the waiver wire. Logan Thomas, I haven't in one league. I just happen to be lucky that Rob Gronkowski was available
Starting point is 00:38:37 and I spent a lot of money on him in the flex leagues to get him last week. But I also have Logan Thomas. I'm more than willing to trade Logan Thomas at this point, you know? So if somebody is stuck and wants to make a deal, that's an easy trade, you know, to make for somebody,
Starting point is 00:38:51 you know, so Tyler Higbee might be, you know, trade. Well, yeah, Thomas might be trade. How about Andrews and kid?
Starting point is 00:38:57 You may not have a better time to get Andrews and Kittle than right now. that's, I think if you're shooting for more of a blockbuster, cause you're not getting them cheap, but I'm talking about the guys that you might be able to get cheap. You send Sterling Shepard and Brandon Cooks for George Kittle. Maybe it'll work, you know? Yeah, that might get a lot of attention.
Starting point is 00:39:12 All right, let's finish up here. DSTs, Jamie, who are your top DSTs? The Panthers by far. You know, 29% roster percentage. They get Houston with Davis Mills. So they've been awesome. And they may be sustainable all season, you know, just based on how that defensive line is getting after things. And the back end is doing a great job with Jeremy Chin. So it've been awesome and they may be sustainable all season, you know, just based on how that defensive line is getting after things.
Starting point is 00:39:25 And the back end is doing a great job with Jeremy Chin. So it's a fun unit to watch. I think you buy into the Raiders defense, especially if Jacoby Brissett is starting, you know, that pass rush has been fantastic
Starting point is 00:39:35 and home game against, you know, Brissett might be good for them. I'll give the Bears the third option, you know, just in terms of the defenses that were rostered. If Mayfield's banged up and no Landry, and we'll see about Beckham how healthy he is, you know uh just in terms of the defenses that were rostered um if mayfield's
Starting point is 00:39:45 banged up and no landry and we'll see about beckham how healthy he is you know the bears if they get the browns and obvious pass with situations as we saw last week you know they can get a turnover and maybe find the end zone and then i usually don't do uh four but i put the titans on the list also just because they're facing potentially jacob eason so we'll see if that defense can turn some things around and kickers kickers the number one kicker, is Nick Folk. Now that he's going to be the guy for the Patriots, he's been fantastic and he's available everywhere, 4% roster percentage. Daniel Carlson's gotten off to a good start, 39% roster percentage for him, taking on the Dolphins. Matt Gay's at the higher end of things, 62%, but he's done a nice job so far for the Rams. And as we know,
Starting point is 00:40:22 the Bucs can have a bend but not break defense. And then it's hard to overlook what Graham Gonneau has done as maybe the Giants' best player. 14% is his roster percentage in the home game against Atlanta. Dave, I'm not sure if you have any IDPs.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I know a lot of people were asking me about Nick Vigil because I brought him up a couple weeks ago as a sleeper. And he had a pick six. Look, if Anthony Barr is out, Nick Vigil is a must-have. I don't know what happens when Anthony Barr comes back.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I don't know when Anthony Barr comes back, but it's just something to keep in mind in IDP. Also, Cole Holcomb, linebacker for Washington, plays every snap and was okay in week two, was good in week one. So those are a couple guys to pick up. I'm sure there are some more high-end players out there. This would be more for a deeper IDP league.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Yeah, there you go. Devondre Campbell for the Packers, I think he's somewhat available and had a big game last night and they were saying some great things. If you were watching the actual broadcast instead of the Mayday one, they were saying some great things about him. I'd go back to Kenny
Starting point is 00:41:21 Young. I know he got tossed in week two against the Colts, but he had a nice week one with 10 tackles. Yeah. Great. Good call. All right. Would you drop these DSTs? The Steelers,
Starting point is 00:41:33 their next two games are the Bengals and the, and the Packers. Then they have Denver, then Seattle, then a buy. Would you drop the Steelers? I wouldn't this week, especially if Watts going to play against the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:41:49 If Watts out, then you might think about getting away from them. Like I would drop them for the Panthers if that's my choice. I'm not dropping them for the Titans. Would you drop the Washington football team DST at Buffalo, at Atlanta, New Orleans, Kansas City, at Green Bay? That's our next five games. I would do it for the Panthers. I would do it for the Raiders this week. I think if you're hopeful for the football team's defense, Ron Rivera is now voicing his concerns. There was a report, a story in NBC Sports Washington where Rivera not happy, clearly,
Starting point is 00:42:23 with the way the defense has looked so far, and understandably so. If they get Atlanta in two weeks, that's a team that's allowed at least 13 points to a DST in each game so far this season. That's a reason to like the Giants' DST this week. I would hang on to Washington. And then the Rams.
Starting point is 00:42:42 The Rams' next three games are Bucs, Cardinals, Seahawks. Keep them? I would. Yeah, you kind of have to. But those three teams have combined for one 10-point DST matchup allowed. And it was Arizona, and they allowed a touchdown last week to Vigil. Right. So those are not great matchups at all. But
Starting point is 00:43:09 it's a good defense. You shouldn't let them go. You won't get them back. After that, they get the Giants, Lions and Texans. So that'll be a better stretch. Oh my. So maybe in all seriousness, you could buy low on them in three weeks. We'll come back to that.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Green Bay 35, or maybe we won't. Green Bay 35, Detroit 17. Dave, any major takeaways from this one? Aaron Jones is the first Packers running back with three touchdown catches since 1942. And Aaron Rodgers, after a loss, is just ridiculous. According to the AP, he's followed up each of the last five regular season losses by five in a row. He's thrown four touchdowns and no interceptions in his next game. So root for root against them. If you have Aaron Rodgers anyway, any big takeaways here?
Starting point is 00:43:54 No, I mean, there are some takeaways for sure. Those are obviously the two biggest ones. Rodgers looked like his old self again. It was excellent to see after he looked old in week one. And Aaron Jones was due for a bounce back game after barely getting the old in week one. And Aaron Jones was due for a bounce-back game after barely getting the ball in week one. This qualifies. Target drain for the running backs in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:44:13 DeAndre Swift only had four catches, five targets. Jamal Williams caught all three of his targets, so eight targets combined. That's a little disappointing after they were both so involved in the passing game the week before. It's going to make people you know second guess those guys as must start guys i think swift has earned it williams maybe not so much in ppr and golf had a decent stat line for fantasy uh we didn't really talk about him as a possible ad um maybe that's somebody that you consider trading for on the dirt, dirt cheap and super
Starting point is 00:44:46 flex leagues if you're struggling at your QB2 spot. He could lead the NFL in pass attempts. He had 36 last night. He had 57 in week one. Let's talk more about the Detroit running backs here. DeAndre Swift had
Starting point is 00:45:01 eight carries for 37 yards and he had four catches for 41 yards. So he was decent in PPR. He looked pretty good, just didn't get the ball. The fourth quarter was when he got most of his catches. The last drive. He had three catches for 30 yards on the last drive of the game. And four catches for 41 yards
Starting point is 00:45:18 for the entire game. So that was four of his five targets on the final drive. And I don't know what to make of that. I mean, there's going to be a lot of that this year. You know? But Jamal Williams started in only 30% of leagues and had 10 touches. Just not a good game.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I don't know. Now they get the Ravens. Ravens, Bears. I don't know if Minnesota is such a dangerous matchup anymore, but that comes after that. But is DeAndre Swift really a must-start guy? He is in PPR. I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:47 you know, you got to take the two game sample size for what it is, you know? So obviously great week one in a similar situation, no chasing points. And he was, he was fantastic at home. Um,
Starting point is 00:45:56 I'm going to guess the Ravens go back to their typical game plan of, you know, blitzing nonstop. Like we didn't see that against the chiefs. Yeah. So ball out quick you know little scenario remember the thing that probably helped golf a little bit with his downfield throws the packers pass rush was beaten up the darius smith and playing that game you know
Starting point is 00:46:14 so a little more opportunities in the pocket for him so i and i think with baltimore and how they get after the quarterback typically could be a little tougher for golf this week so um he'll still have volume i think that'll help the running backs, though. So I wouldn't necessarily panic too much after one week, but it was definitely disappointing to see, you know, the week one drop off to week two. Any thoughts on selling TJ Hawkinson or just let's enjoy the ride? I mean, anybody's a sell high candidate when they're doing what they're doing
Starting point is 00:46:39 like this, you know, on a team like this. But, you know, like I'm not trading Hawkinson for Pitts, but if somebody wants to give me, you know, a team like this but you know like i'm not trading hawkinson for pits but if somebody wants to give me you know kittle or andrews and another player you know not necessarily a superstar like you know dave's throwing in a mark ingram for you know i know what he's doing with i know it was too much i know but i'm you know if somebody's willing to give you um you know like hey wait hold on hold on stop right. Kittle straight up for Hawkinson. No, I'm keeping Hawkinson. I am too.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Okay. Yeah, no, that's me too, yeah. You hate to overreact, but you're seeing it. You're seeing exactly what we expected. And I wouldn't do Hawkinson straight up for Andrews either. Or Pitts.
Starting point is 00:47:21 That one I might. I think Andrews. There's a lot of big games coming for him. Sure, but we're already getting them for Hawkinson. Yeah, I'm with you, but I'm saying I wouldn't necessarily sell Andrews short. Like I said, he's the number one receiver and number one target getter in that offense. Yeah, and Andrews isn't. I mean, this is something we did not see last year or the year before as a third guy.
Starting point is 00:47:46 And eventually Rashad Bateman's going to come back for him. Sorry, Adam, but Bateman's eventually going to come back for Baltimore. There's going to be more guys in that passing game. By the way, I did a Twitter poll earlier. I had forgotten about it until right now. Dave, you inspired it. Because you said Pollard might be better than Zeke. That's all I'm seeing.
Starting point is 00:48:04 People keep saying that, but the Zeke side hasn't really had a voice. So I just said, who is a better running back? Not for fantasy football, just as an NFL running back, who is better? Zeke has 52% of the vote. Pollard has 48%. I thought Zeke in a Twitter poll would
Starting point is 00:48:19 run away with it. Oh, that's close. Yeah, I would have thought the opposite just because how Pollard looked. Same. I would have thought the opposite just because how Pollard looked. Same. I would have thought Pollard was going to win. Yeah. People are just down on Zeke.
Starting point is 00:48:30 It's like he didn't have 17 carries and a touchdown in week two. It's weird. I mean, Pollard looks like he shot out of a cannon, you know, so he's running a lot better.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I think some of the play designs for Pollard are a lot better, too. But we'll see how that impacts them moving forward. But look, this was a good bounce-back game for Zeke, and so hopefully there's just more to come. He's on the field a lot more than Pollard. It's amazing that Pollard has as many catches as he's had. I feel like the second he gets in the game, they throw to him.
Starting point is 00:48:59 It's weird. All right, drop-o-meter, 0-10. If I were Zeke, I'd take back the luggage that he got back. All right, it-O-Meter. Zero to ten. If I were Zeke, I'd take back the luggage that he got back and go for it. All right. It goes zero to ten. Ten is a must-drop. Zero, no chance. Baker Mayfield. Is that because he's going to be off the team in a year and he needs to pack his stuff? Maybe. It's a good call.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Baker Mayfield. Zero to ten. Ten. You can drop him. Tyler Higby. Do not drop him. Zero. Trevor Lawrence. Three. Non-KPR league. Non-keeper leagues you can drop him.
Starting point is 00:49:31 KPR, that's great. KPR. Naeem Hines. PPR, he is a two. Non-PPR, he's a 10. Two stinking touches last week. He does this all the time, man. man he's gonna do it later this year too where he's just gonna have a monster game and then the next week it's the old fool jew and uh
Starting point is 00:49:52 you'll be mad that you have him on your team marquez calloway drop him uh seven he actually looked a little bit better this week than he did. Now I'm watching Marquez Calloway with my free time. He had twice as many catches this week. He looked a little bit better. There were a couple times he got open and Jameis just didn't look his way. Robbie Anderson, drop a meter, 0-10. Zero. Zero.
Starting point is 00:50:17 At Houston this week, at Dallas the next week. Get right. Then Philadelphia, then Minnesota. Good stretch here for the Panthers passing game. Brandon Ayuk. Hold up. Did Darnold make your list, Jamie? Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Where is he on it? Because we didn't talk about him. He is behind. He's fourth. He is. He's fourth. He's fourth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:41 So that low key be like, could he be the best guy? Like, I think car is going to be better rest of season. Maybe behind car. Could he be the best one? Rest of season. I would take Daniel Jones over him by a mile. And I would take Teddy Bridgewater over him right now.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I just think you look at Darnold. I don't know if this is his ceiling, but it might be a ceiling, you know, where he's just living in that low twenties range. I'd say it's been a little disappointing, you know, especially against the Jets. They had a lot of opportunities for Moore,
Starting point is 00:51:08 and he just didn't really do enough. But, you know, so far he's been startable. They corrected that last week. Let's see, we got... Or Moore, anyway. Jacoby Myers, did you give a number on Iyuk? It's like a three. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I want to give it another week. I don't want to give up on him too soon jacoby myers i don't want to give up on dante pettis too soon uh jacoby myers is an eight and non-ppr and a three in ppr yeah johnny smith i think if i needed a tight end and i saw him on the waiver wire, I'd pick them up. So I wouldn't drop them. Zero. Yeah. Three at best. All right. Let's get a little bit deeper into the waiver wire here with the options
Starting point is 00:51:51 that we have not talked about at quarterback. The players that are rostered in 75% or more of leagues that might be available are Justin Fields and Kirk cousins. Just for perspective, where are you going to rank Justin Fields this week at Cleveland? I think he's 16 for me. It's probably somewhere around that for me, too. Cousins is in my top
Starting point is 00:52:10 12. Yeah, Cousins is in my top 10. And then you can decide short-term versus long-term. Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, Bridgewater's got the Jets this week, Carr gets the Dolphins, Daniel Jones gets Atlanta, and then you've got Sam Darnold
Starting point is 00:52:26 and Taylor Heineke at Buffalo. Buffalo's been really good against quarterbacks, but it's been Roethlisberger and Brissette. So Heineke's an option. I'll give you one more name. What do you think about Matt Ryan this week? Against the Giants? Yeah. Giants,
Starting point is 00:52:42 Washington, Jets are his next three games. He's 68% rostered. So, I mean, would you drop Matt Ryan for Bridgewater and Carr and Jones and all that, or keep him? I would drop him for Carr and Jones. I would drop Matt Ryan for those guys, yes. Okay. In deep super flex leagues, Davis Mills, Jacoby brissett jacob eason who's your favorite
Starting point is 00:53:06 all three of them might be available probably are so who's your favorite out of davis mills brissett and jacob eason mills just because he's gonna have probably the most long-term opportunity to play uh and he didn't look bad after he got set a little bit you know the start of the game was ugly but you you know, now, um, now he, uh, hopefully we'll, you know, he may look, we've seen this with Tyrod before clearly much more high profile guys, but you know, a rookie comes in and takes over for him. Almost every opportunity he gets as a starter since leaving Buffalo happened in Cleveland happened with the chargers. Uh, those were top 10 overall picks. Davis mills, not the same thing, but you know, who knows the Texans may decide that Davis Mills is their guy.
Starting point is 00:53:46 They should. Question here. Was Nathan Peterman a rookie when he took over? Or was that the second? Yeah, I think he was. I don't remember which year that was for him. But he had four interceptions and a half.
Starting point is 00:54:02 That was in his second season. He pulled a Zach Wilson. that was in his second pull the zach wilson that was in his second season okay anyway quick detour there all right and uh yeah deshaun watson's 24 roster do you think there's a reason to pick him up they said they're not going to activate him this week but they didn't rule it out originally so i think the only reason you should be rostering deshaun watson is not to do with the texans It has probably more to do with the Dolphins. Because if two of us hurt and they decide that that's the trade they want to explore because they seem like the most likely trade partner, then maybe you go that route.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Okay, let's go to the running backs. You've got to have a really deep roster at this point to carry Deshaun Watson. Go to the running backs here. James White, Michael Carter, Sonny Michel. We haven't really talked much about him. It's not just that Daryl Henderson is hurt now. It's that Daryl Henderson is frequently hurt. So, Sonny
Starting point is 00:54:52 Michel is 71% rostered. He's not super available. Yeah, I was surprised that people gave up on him because when I looked at it last week, he was in the 90s because you had the storyline and people telling you that he might be the best Rams running back, but that's I don't think it'd be the case unless Henderson is going to significantly miss time. The thing you got to look at is how much are they going to maybe share?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Because through, you know, a week and a half, it was all Daryl Henderson for the most part in terms of workload. So, you know, it's like you said, Adam, if you're in the Daryl Henderson camp, you want to see Sony Michelle bang his head into Vita Vita Vea 100 times and struggle, and then Henderson gets healthy and he's back as the lead guy. But Michel, look, 4.6 yards per carry last week. We'll see if the fluky involvement in the preseason game for the Patriots is something that the Rams use because we saw Henderson get an uptick in passing production this week against the Colts,
Starting point is 00:55:41 or last week against the Colts. So I think Michel is obviously worth adding where available because we don't know how long Henderson might be out if he's going to miss time at all. But he clearly is the number two guy there. I don't know what they're going to do with Jake Funk as the third guy, but very clearly right now they're leaning on one running back, and that could be Michel.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Could have been Cam Akers. The guys to add, J.D. McKissick, Cordero Patterson, Alexander Madison. You're sitting there, you're looking at Patterson and Madison. So you don't need to start a running back. Who do you, you know, who do you pick up?
Starting point is 00:56:13 I think it probably depends on your backfield situation because there's clearly a chance that Patterson is going to help you sooner, but lottery ticket appeal is clearly Madisonison because mike davis goes down i don't think they're turning to win gallman at this point it seems like they're turning to patterson uh i have a hard time loving a 30 year old receiver yeah it's nuts give me madison kenny gainwell is uh 59 percent of his rostered sorry daryl williams had a rushing touchdown he might get some of those this year yeah the thing the thing i the reason i put him there is because if if they continue to get frustrated or they start to get frustrated with edward tiller i don't think
Starting point is 00:56:54 they've gotten frustrated at least publicly yet um you had a bad game on top of a fumble you know and so do they start to go maybe a little bit more in the direction of the guy who helped them in two key playoff games last year? And that was Williams. You know, when Edward T. Lair was hurt and Le'Veon Bell stunk, you know, that Williams carried them in the two games against the Browns and the Bills. You know, so we'll see if that's maybe something you just want to take a stash opportunity on if you have an open roster spot. Would you stash McKinnon in a deep PPR league? They just haven't used him to the same degree,
Starting point is 00:57:27 but maybe, you know, I mean, my guess is it's going to be a committee, you know, but I think more of the, more of the rushing opportunities and certainly more of the goal line opportunities will go to Williams. Cause they've shown you that already whenever it's,
Starting point is 00:57:39 you know, sure. I get that other running back. It's already been a committee, by the way, other running backs to consider just the a committee by the way uh other running backs to consider just the same vein as uh as Madison but with less upside Samaj P Ryan I mean just Joe Mixon gets so much work and he's he's got an injury history and it's 17 game season
Starting point is 00:57:58 just think about if Mixon gets hurt P Ron's to be the number one player added on waivers. But I think Chris Evans would get in the mix there. I don't think it would be all Piran all the time. Zach Moss, 61%. Nobody's really adding Peyton Barber, but you know. Not even you? Ty
Starting point is 00:58:20 Johnson is 8%. Wide receivers. You can see if Marvin Jones, who's had two big games in a row, or Marquise Brown, who's had two big games in a row, are available. They're rostered in more than 80% of leagues. What do we think about Michael Pittman? Is he a must-add guy?
Starting point is 00:58:36 66% rostered. I think he's in the... I'd put him behind Shepard and behind Rondell Moore, just in terms of what his... The team that he plays for now, the quarterback situation being what it is. But you had the game you were hoping for with T.Y. Hilton out. And so 12 targets, 8 catches,
Starting point is 00:58:55 looked like the guy that we were saying, oh, could be a big winner without Hilton there. But that might be his best game of the season, depending on how Jacob Beeson looks and then when T.Y. Hilton does come back. How often is he going to have 12 targets? Because he's a volume needy receiver. He's not a big yak guy, unless there's
Starting point is 00:59:16 broken coverage. Yeah. He really did not gain many yards after the catch, even this past game. They got a terrible receiving core. He should have targets. He did in week one, but he certainly did against the Rams. Okay, so would you rather have...
Starting point is 00:59:36 Oh, man. I'm struggling here. Sterling Shepard, obviously. Christian McCaffrey or Michael Pittman? Give me Pittman. Yeah, I guess so. Really? McCaffrey can't score. No, not really. Oh, because, you know, Sterling Shepard, obviously. Christian McCaffrey or Michael Pittman, give me Pittman. Yeah, yeah, I guess so. Really? McCaffrey can't score.
Starting point is 00:59:47 No, not really. Oh, no, he did. Well, I think if you're choosing between Pittman, Shepard, and Pittman, Shepard, Moore, and Patrick. Yeah, where is he? I mean, like I said,
Starting point is 00:59:58 for me, he's third. You know, I would take what the upside of Rondell Moore could be over Pittman at this point. And Shepard has obviously proved himself to be, you know, a legit player.
Starting point is 01:00:06 All right, quick thoughts, guys. I'm going to wrap up the show here. Darnell Mooney, I think he plays all the time. He's tied with Allen Robinson and Target. So Darnell Mooney, Henry Ruggs, Elijah Moore, KJ Osborne, Quintez Cephas. Is there one that really stands out in that group? Mooney, Ruggs, Elijah Moore, KJ Osborne, and Quintez Cephas. Is there one that really stands out in that group? Mooney, Ruggs, Elijah Moore, KJ Osborne, and Quintez Cephas. They all do in their own way, but Mooney's the one I like the best. 13 targets or 15 targets in two games. That's tied with Allen Robinson. And one of the
Starting point is 01:00:36 reasons why I liked Mooney was because I think he's got some upside with fields at quarterback. And we could be looking at fields starting for the bears in week three. And his numbers were good in the game that fields play the majority of the time in this past week. Dave said it best. It depends on, you know, I think what you're looking for. If I have like in your case, Adam, for example, I know it's a two receiver league in our podcast league, but if I have Jefferson and Brown and I'm deciding between Mooney, who's got a clearly a much safer floor or rugs who can win me a week, there's probably going to be a lot of times where I'm playing Ruggs over Mooney because he's going to have these blow-up games
Starting point is 01:01:09 that Mooney's just not capable of in this offense. Okay. And then a tight end. And don't give up on Elijah Moore. Look, he's just... Zach Milson's just missing him barely every game. Certainly last week against the Patriots.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I mean, his air yards, I don't know exactly what the number is, but it has to be high up there for week two. You just can't connect with them right now. And you have Denver this week. So it's not exactly be pretty, but then I think it's Atlanta. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Adam after this week, I would add him now because you're going to, he has one big play and you're going to miss out on. Okay. Could get Crowder back this week. Don't know how much he had 113 air yards. That was 16th highest. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:01:46 And that team. Yeah. That did not include the monday night game okay uh let's go to the tight ends here robert tony deeper leagues though two guys first off or three guys osborne and cfas you know osborne in this offense with how much they're throwing yeah looks fantastic 16 targets or 15 targets in the first two weeks and then cfashas, as long as Tyrell Williams is out, he scored now in each of the first two games. So he looks like their potential number two receiver, not taking into account the running backs. And then you mentioned Crowder.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Crowder's not out. Braxton Berrios has been just the go-to guy for Zach Wilson. You know, just the cheap PPR option if you're stuck. He's doing what I thought Moore was going to do. Well, Crowder, though. I mean, that's the thing. Once Crowder comes back out. Right, but that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:02:26 If Crowder's out another week, and as we know, Crowder misses time, Berrios could be a cheap PPR guy you can lean on. Tight ends to know. Tunyon, Cook, and Janu might be available in your leagues. They're 73% to 80% rostered. If they're not, Austin Hooper with Landry out. Are we sure it's Hooper over Njoku?
Starting point is 01:02:47 Well, Njoku's target share went down in week two. So, you know, I think Hooper's the safe guy. Hooper had three targets. They're going to use all three. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Hooper had three targets in week one. What did he have? I think they had about three or four each.
Starting point is 01:02:57 He had five targets, five catches, 40 yards. Okay. Hooper was nine points in PPR. Evan Ingram. Evan Ingram gets Atlanta. Jack Doyle. Pat Frygram. 9 points in PPR. Evan Ingram gets Atlanta. Jack Doyle. Pat Fryer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Fryer and Muth is the stash. He had more playing time than Ebron last week. Both weeks. Yeah. Dan Arnold had a good game for Carolina. Max Williams for Arizona. And the Texans have struggled against tight ends. Week one, it was James O'Shaughnessy and Manhurt scoring a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Last week, it was the three tight ends combining for the Broncos. So, you know, Arnold maybe is something. For you, Adam, finally. Finally. I know. Yeah, a week too late. Right, Cole Kometz. Arnold to the Arnold.
Starting point is 01:03:38 So, would you take Hooper, Ingram, and Doyle over Cole Kometz facing Cleveland? I would take Ingram, and Doyle over Cole Komet facing Cleveland? I would take Ingram. If he's healthy, I would take Ingram, and I would take Hooper. The Eagles have been great against Pitts and Kittle so far, but if Amari Cooper's out, maybe we start looking at Schultz or Jarwin. Do you
Starting point is 01:03:59 have a preference there between the two of them if Cooper were out? Jarwin, but not by much. They're basically playing equally through two weeks. All right. And then DSTs, Panthers, Raiders, Bears, Titans,
Starting point is 01:04:15 and yeah, I don't know if there's another one we wanted to give. Arizona at Jacksonville, they're 68% rostered. Do you still believe in Cleveland against Chicago? Yeah. I mean, they're 68% rostered. Do you still believe in Cleveland against Chicago? Yeah. I mean, they're a wild card because of what fields may or may not do, but he's still a rookie quarterback making his first official start.
Starting point is 01:04:33 At least that's what we expect. They were a letdown, though. Houston's one of eight teams that hasn't allowed an eight or more DST score against them yet this year. Interesting. Well, yeah, but that'll change. I think Carolina's defense changes that this week. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Thanks so much for listening. The kickers that Jamie gave earlier, Nick Folk, Daniel Carson, Matt Gay, and he called Graham Gonneau the best player on the Giants, which was, as an Eagles fan, I really enjoyed hearing that. We will talk to you tomorrow with some buy low, sell high here on Fantasy Football Today. Thanks for listening, everybody. We will talk to you tomorrow with some buy low, sell high here on Fantasy Football Today. Thanks for listening, everybody.
Starting point is 01:05:06 We will talk to you on Wednesday.

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