Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Stevenson, Mooney, Cam and More (11/17 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

Our top priorities this week include Rhamondre Stevenson and Darnell Mooney. Can Cam Newton be Fantasy relevant in a 1-QB league? Can Kenny Golladay live up to his draft position? And is D'Onta Forema...n a must-add? We also talk FAAB (8:15) and give you your news and notes (13:40) and a quick overview of the QB position (18:50) ... Top priorities at each position: QB (22:00), RB (25:30), WR (29:30), TE (31:00), DST (33:15), Kicker and IDP. Tua could be great for you this week, the WR rankings are interesting with Elijah Moore and Rashod Bateman in the mix and Dan Arnold is the top target at TE ... Recapping Rams-49ers (36:30), bringing out the Dropometer (45:30) and going through the waiver wire for each position (48:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:21 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Look out for the 49ers and what's going on with the Los Angeles Rams and Matthew Stafford as they go into their bye week reeling a little bit. And a big win last night for the Niners, but that's not what we're here to talk about. We're here to talk about Ramondre Stevenson and a whole bunch of Chicago Bears and some tight ends to stream and all those things. How much faith are you going to have in the Bears offense going forward?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Because Justin Fields might be your favorite quarterback to add. Darnell Mooney might be your favorite wide receiver. Cole Komet could be among your favorite tight ends. And I don't think we want Allen Robinson, though. We'll see. I'm Adam Azer with Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg. Jamie, how are we feeling about the waiver wire this week? It's not bad. It's this week? It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:02:05 It's not great. It's not bad. You know, it just depends on who's out there for you because I'm going to guess the majority of League Stevenson is rostered. Mooney is rostered. Dan Arnold is rostered. But still some leagues where those guys are available. So those are the top players in their respective positions.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Cam. Cam's going to be fun. Cam is going to be fun. Dave, maybe Cam can be a good quarterback because we didn't really have any of those in Week 10. He was one of the better ones. He had, I think, 16 fantasy points in Week 10. Whatever he
Starting point is 00:02:35 had, he barely played. So just extrapolate that over 20 pass attempts and 8 carries and he'd probably be QB1 for the rest of the season. So he outscored Ryan, Brady, no, Ryan, Stafford, Rogers, and Wilson. And Wentz.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And Wentz, yeah. And Colt McCoy. Well, I didn't see that coming. All right, so let's get to our top priorities here. Jamie, kick it off. Who are the three or four players that we should be looking at on waivers? I think I just said that. Ramondre Stevenson, Narno Mooney, and Dan Arnold, if you're looking at the number one running back, number one wide receiver, and number one tight end. And then Cam is number one quarterback. So there you go. Okay, there you go. Dave, any disagreements there? Actually, yeah. I mean, I agree with Ramondre Stevenson. I liked him last week.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I definitely like him again this week. I think Justin Fields is the number one quarterback to get. I think he's got more upside than Cam Newton. Cam's just more widely available. So if you can't get your hands on Fields or if you need a quarterback this week, I'd pick Tua up ahead of Cam Newton. But Cam's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Jamie's right about that. Galladay, still out there in 46% of leagues. He would be my favorite wide receiver to go after. That's the same roster ship availability as Darnell Mooney. I just think that he's got a better chance to provide a safe floor in PPR. And Logan Thomas is still hanging out there. 48% of leagues. He's a better rest of season type of tight end to snag compared to others at the tight end position. You got these shallow league guys, 10 team leagues, maybe slips through the cracks and some 12 team leagues of Mike Davis and Cordero Patterson probably not going to play.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And Damian Harris right now, they have the Thursday game. It's Atlanta and New England and the injuries that running back are huge there, obviously. So Damian Harris was listed as a non-participant Monday. You know, they just had to list something and actually practice, but still in the concussion protocol. And Patterson may have a high ankle sprain, so he might miss some time.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And they have New England and then at Jacksonville next week. But, you know, Mike Davis, Miles Sanders could be available. Alex Collins, they're all rostered in about the same amount of leagues and we'll get an update midweek on Chris Carson, it seems. So Dave, if you had a look at those three running backs, Mike Davis, Miles Sanders, who could come back this week, and Alex Collins,
Starting point is 00:05:00 are they must-add players? Sanders would be. Not that I would expect Sanders to be the workhorse in Philly. I think those days are long, long gone. But he might be the one that leads them and carries most weeks rest of season. Collins, I'm not that interested in. Maybe just as a warm body at running back who might fall into the end zone. What about Mike Davis, though? Could he be? And what about, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:24 He's not a great football player. Right. But what about Mike Davis, though? Could he be? And what about, you know? He's not a great football player. Right, but what about him and Gallman? The return of Gallman this week. We'll see. It would make sense. I think we're definitely going to see Wayne Gallman play. And in the limited time when he has played, usually it's almost 100% garbage time.
Starting point is 00:05:42 He's looked okay. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. We don't know if the Falcons are going to make a switch from Davis to Gallman, make Gallman the lead traditional running back in their offense. Certainly he'll play if Cordero Patterson's
Starting point is 00:05:55 not going to be on the field. We just don't know what the Falcons are definitely going to do between Davis and Gallman. Jamie, who's a better running back to add? Is it Gallman. Jamie, who's a better running back to add? Is it Gallman or double dip Foreman? I would go with Foreman just because there's the potential of him being the best running back in Tennessee. Whereas Gallman, unless we find out that Patterson is out for the season,
Starting point is 00:06:24 is still going to be in a timeshare when Patterson does come back. And it's, it's weird because the reports are differing from what the team told you and what the NFL network said. The NFL network said could be a couple of weeks, which still may be accurate, but the fact that the Falcons listed him as limited as opposed to DNP on their estimated practice report, maybe there's optimism that he can even play this week. So we'll find out, but I would probably guess that Patterson doesn't play this week and they try to get him back for week 11, for week 12, excuse me. Right, just a short week.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And, you know, one thing to keep in mind here, Patterson's obviously, is he their leading receiver? I don't even know. But he's obviously a big part of their passing game. And the Patriots give up the third most receiving yards per game to running backs. Seven running backs have five or more catches. Seven running backs have five or more catches. Eight running backs have 46 or more yards.
Starting point is 00:07:09 But the Patriots have only allowed three touchdowns to running backs all year. Two rushing, one receiving. Yeah, but this is going to be so tough for Atlanta. If they don't have Patterson without Ridley, I mean, there's just so limited offensively. You know that the Patriots are going to take away Kyle Pitts. It has a potential to be really ugly for Atlanta this week. And you know they're going to pressure Matt Ryan like crazy, too.
Starting point is 00:07:28 The leading pass catcher on the Atlanta Falcons with 40 catches, 606 yards, and one touchdown, rookie Kyle Pitts. How about that? Okay. So we want to give you our live schedule on YouTube. Go to youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. Every podcast we do, we do live, including Fantasy Football Today in five.
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Starting point is 00:08:59 he made me feel a different way not quite as serious it was quite a gag reflex I think i faced both of you in separate leagues and you both started matt ryan and i want to thank you for for doing that it's good stuff how much fab are we spending on remandre stevenson or whoever else i don't think much um you know again as we get to this point in the season, it comes down to what you need and who's available to you. But the problem with spending a lot of money on Stevenson
Starting point is 00:09:30 is what happens if Harris plays. So you don't want to leave yourself going into the rest of the season without a guaranteed starter. So I would say probably neighborhood of 15% on Stevenson is fair, but it's still case-specific at this point. He's the highest guy to spend your fab money on because I don't think whether it's still case specific at this point. He's the highest guy to spend, you know, your fab money on, because I don't think whether it's Mooney or Gallaudet, whatever receiver you want is, is a guaranteed starter. Um, the quarterbacks are, are,
Starting point is 00:09:53 are certainly startable, whether it's cam or two or fields, but since there's multiple of them, you know, you can probably find one of them available and then, you know, Arnold or Thomas, you know, Thomas may not play again. So just keep that in mind, but Arnold, you know you can probably find one of them available and then you know arnold or thomas you know thomas may not play again so just keep that in mind but arnold you know if you want to go get him in ppr um he just doesn't score touchdowns so you know if he doesn't have another you know seven plus target game and giving you a floor of 10 ppr points but a ceiling of about 14 you know i don't know how much that is is that a guy to break the bank on either. Hey, he gave you a third of a touchdown. Yes. Got a two-point conversion.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Yes. Go, Dan, go. Hey, which would you rather do? Would you rather spend 20% of your fab on Ramondre or 5% of your fab on Deontay Foreman? You need a running back for this week. We don't know what's happening in New England. We know it's going to be a mess in Tennessee. What was it? Give it again. 20% on Ramond Ray, 5% on Deontay
Starting point is 00:10:51 Foreman. Those are my top two running backs to add. And the third is gross. I think if I, yeah, if I really was thinking, I think, I think Stevenson, I think so too. Well, the thing you want to look at with Stevenson is you want to go back to games ago when he had 10 carries for 62 yards. And I think it was two catches. Right. So if that, and that's with him suffering concussion in the game, but also Harris suffering concussion in the game,
Starting point is 00:11:16 you know, I think they're going to be in a 50, 50 split. Um, Stevenson has shown you that he can be their pass catching guy, you know, cause they've tried that with him since the James white injury, he kind of failed in that role the first time,
Starting point is 00:11:25 but I think they trust him a little bit more now. So you're getting more of a stable opportunity there with Stevenson, even if Harris plays. But the nice thing about it is that you'll know by the end of the day what Harris' practice status is. So if he returns limited or gets cleared through a concussion protocol, then that should tell you how much you need to spend. If he's out of practice once again and still in the concussion protocol,
Starting point is 00:11:48 then it's easier to justify spending 15% to 20% of your fat. All right, so give me your thoughts. I know I asked you this on Sunday. I probably asked Chris this yesterday. But your thoughts on what the Patriots' backfield looks like if both Harris and Stevenson are healthy. I'd say it's probably 60-40 on rushing downs in favor of Harris.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Stevenson probably 60-40 over Bolden in the passing game. I wasn't that excited over Stevenson in the passing game. I never got a chance to look back and see if he even pass blocked last Sunday. But I think Bolden still probably has a hammerlock
Starting point is 00:12:23 on those passing downs, which means that Stevenson and Harris would split the rushing downs, not ruling out that Stevenson can't take some work away from Bolden. I wonder if at this point, Stevenson's the better rusher and he's just more physical, more explosive. They can do a little bit more with him on first and second downs than they can with Harris, or at least they would trust him a little bit more. I wonder if he's a little bit better in short yardage goal line. I can go back at him and look to see which one's been better converting those carries inside the three. But I said last week, I'll say it again,
Starting point is 00:12:56 I think that there's something good coming down the line for Stevenson. Wouldn't surprise me if he ended up leading the way when Harris even comes back. Foreman also has this little revenge game thing going on this week against Houston. And the Texans have arguably the worst run defense in football. Only two lead running backs all year have not scored a rushing touchdown against Houston. And that was James Robinson and Christian McCaffrey. And they had a combined 12 carries, the two of them.
Starting point is 00:13:23 McCaffrey left early. McCaffrey got hurt. Right. And Robinson, it was week one. and Carlos Hyde had more carries than him. It was weird. He got urban mired. In case you missed it, Foreman was the best running back for the Titans, but Adrian Peterson was consistently in at the goal line. They were using him there.
Starting point is 00:13:40 So that's the next step for Deontay. If I said Stevenson, I'm sorry. I meant Foreman. That's the next step for Deontay Foreman is to get the goal line work and he hasn't had that. Okay. So yeah, Foreman 7% rostered. I have a feeling he'll be the most added player. Goleman 3% rostered. He'll be up there as well. We can take a look at all the positions and have a general discussion about quarterback right now because I want to know how you're feeling about quarterback and whether or not you should be
Starting point is 00:14:05 picking up streamers I usually don't even bother you know because the the starting quarterbacks have been so good but right now we're seeing you know Kyler's been out and Stafford's had two duds in a row um and he's on a buy yeah uh you know I don't know how much you trust Derek Carr if you were going with him Kirk Cousins has been up and down. So it's kind of an interesting time right now for quarterback. Russell Wilson, I don't know how much you trust him. Anyway, let's do our news and notes. Saquon Barkley looks like he's probably going to play this week. They're at Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And give you a quick stat here. Vita Vea. Vita Vea, he played five games last year in the regular season. I'm just buying time until I scroll down. There it is. He played five games the year in the regular season. I'm just buying time until I scroll down. There it is. Played five games the regular season last year, and when Vitavia played, the Bucs allowed 2.48 yards per carry to running backs. The other 11 regular season games, they allowed 3.73 yards per carry to running backs,
Starting point is 00:14:59 and I do not think Vitavia will be playing this week. He's a really important piece. Aaron Jones, one to two weeks. He's a really important piece. Aaron Jones, one to two weeks. That's a really promising report. And the third week would be a buy anyway. So it's Minnesota this week. Probably not going to play. Hopefully back for the Rams. But if not, then they have the buy. I think you can feel good about Jones coming back against Chicago. He's not playing until the buy after the buy. Cly-Elair has a good chance to play this week. What do you think the backfield looks like there?
Starting point is 00:15:29 It was, I think, such an easier question after Darrell Williams had 100 receiving yards on Monday night or whatever it was. Jamie, what do you think the backfield looks like in Kansas City with Edwards-Elair likely back? I think Edwards-Elair will lead them in carries, but I think catches and short yardage, goal line opportunities will go to Williams because that's kind of what he was doing before Edward Tiller got hurt anyway.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So the hope would be is that Edward Tiller gets you the two games that we saw before the injury with 100 yards rushing, and you still get good production out of him with a chance to score. But I think in terms of the high-level touches, you're going to want Darrell Williams. So he'll still be a flex. He's going to lose, obviously, with Edward Tire back on the field because now four of the five games that Edward Zolaire has missed, it's 19 total touches or more for Williams,
Starting point is 00:16:10 which has been fantastic. But that's going to go away. But I don't think Edward Zolaire comes back and is a must-start fantasy running back. And Williams, you think, could still be a number three running back?
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah, he'll be in a flex conversation for sure. I mean, you know, you'll probably have a game and it wouldn't be surprising if it's the first game back. Could be this week against I mean, you know, you'll probably have a game, and it wouldn't be surprising if it's the first game back. It could be this week against Dallas where, you know, Williams doesn't score or has, you know, three for 30 in the passing game
Starting point is 00:16:31 or, you know, four for 20, you know, one of those miserable receiving lines. But still, you'll look at the usage and you'll say, okay, this is something I can still buy into. So you're not cutting him whenever he comes back, and I don't think you necessarily have to bench him in the first matchup. But not going to be a must- first matchup, but I'm not, not going to be a must start guy anymore, but still a good flex up.
Starting point is 00:16:48 They could also continue to use him in the run game. If Edward Zilaire a for this week, you know, easing him back in, they don't want to put too much on his plate B for the games where Edward Zilaire starts off averaging two yards of carry and they go, okay, he doesn't have it today.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Let's see what Williams has. Yeah. I thought it was interesting. Clyde ever dealer is 97 percent rostered miles sanders is 77 percent rostered edwards dealer went on ir i think two weeks earlier than miles sanders and they both were eligible for an ir spot it's weird that that Sanders is only 77% roster. That's perception. I know, but I don't know. It was a long time to hold on to CEH, who wasn't exactly... Think about where Miles Sanders was at the start of the
Starting point is 00:17:34 year with Philadelphia, and then in the game where it felt like they were going to start running more, he got hurt. It also could be procedural for a lot of fantasy managers, because like you said, Edwards went on IR first. So if you have two IR spots, you have to make a decision depending on who you've been carrying in those spots.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Yeah. All right, let me get through the rest of the notes here. We got Damian Harrison, Cordaro Patterson awaiting their statuses for the Thursday night game. Tua is going to start this week at the Jets. It's going to be a close call for Kyler Murray at Seattle. Then they have a bye. What's that, Dave?
Starting point is 00:18:07 Not nice. No, not nice. I'm excited about Tua. I can't count on Kyler. Ben Roethlisberger still uncertain for this week. Baker Mayfield day-to-day. Seems like he'll play against Detroit. Brandon Staley said that Mike Williams' knee injury is not a factor.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Can't use that as an excuse. Cam Newton seems likely to start. They haven't officially said it, but he's going to start. Robert Sala said the Jets quarterback situation is going to resolve itself organically. TJ Watt may be able to play this week. That's great news. Ryan Fitzpatrick, it seems like is going to be out for the season.
Starting point is 00:18:40 If not the entire season, most of it. Pete Carroll said he would address Chris Carson's situation on Wednesday. What are you making of this, Dave? As, again, Alex Collins could be available in some leagues. Carroll probably just doesn't know where he's at. So they're going to continue to monitor him and let him practice and then make a decision on him. But it sounds to me like it's a little more serious.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I mean, anytime there's a neck injury, it's pretty serious, but maybe he's just not quite as ready to come back as was intimated earlier this year. Cole Beasley seeing reduced playing time because of a rib injury lately. Sterling Shepard seems uncertain for Monday night at Tampa Bay, but Galladay and Tony seem like they're going to go, and same with Barkley. Whitney Merciless, Green Bay linebacker, he's out for the season,
Starting point is 00:19:29 but they've really taken a lot of hits on defense. Ricky Seals-Jones, day-to-day with a hip injury. We're hoping Logan Thomas is back this week as well. Pittsburgh safety Minka Fitzpatrick is on the reserve COVID list, and Jared Goff is likely to remain the starter for Detroit, and Vida Veya, as I already mentioned, he avoided serious injury.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Probably not going to play this week, but unlikely to go on IR. So with that said, let's talk a little bit about quarterback just in general, Jamie. You know, what are we seeing here at the quarterback position? Is it something that's just kind of a little bit of a fluke
Starting point is 00:20:00 with these studs who had such bad games in week 10 and some of them either didn't play or weren't great in Week 9? Or is it a sign that we really need to be considering streamers more, I guess, at quarterback? What do you think? I don't necessarily think you're going to see across the board people considering streamers because as good as potentially Cam, Tua,
Starting point is 00:20:19 and Fields can be, most fantasy managers are not going to start them over Russell Wilson or kyler if he plays or you know these other you know maybe kirk cousins and maybe derrick car you know just going by the guys that you mentioned uh but i doubt when we're past the bye weeks and we get through you know some of these injury concerns you're going to most likely go back to your guys depending on what happens in the interim so we've seen two would do well in great matchups and this is a great matchup against the jets we saw cam Cam like Dave said in the small sample size 13 fantasy points so what could happen when he's facing maybe even a worse defense this week for example against Washington with a full you know workload
Starting point is 00:20:54 full you know allotment of snaps and being the starter uh Fields you know had one great game one good game but he's looking better and he's running more so all three of those guys are certainly in the conversation to replace those struggling starters. I asked Pete Prisco this question yesterday on HQ on FFT. And he said, he spoke to some guys around the league during the week. And he said, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:13 the, the thing that, that they're noticing is, you know, because most, as we're well aware, offenses have offenses have such an advantage that defenses are trying to become so creative in how they're, you know, trying to stop
Starting point is 00:21:26 these guys. And the example you brought up was, was the obvious one, which is the Ravens and the Dolphins and how the Dolphins just threw an entirely different wrinkle at Baltimore and Baltimore didn't adjust. And so we start to see more of those things moving forward. You know, you can make a case that the 49ers did that against the Rams, you know, and they brought this up on the broadcast on the Manning cast, at least I know Adam, you were the only one watching the other one. Um, but they brought it up, you know, and they brought this up on the broadcast, on the Manning cast at least. I know, Adam, you were the only one watching the other one. But they brought it up, you know, about how the Titans kind of exposed the Rams' interior offensive line a little bit, just bringing pressure up a little, and how Stafford struggled in that game.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And so I think we'll see some things like that moving forward, but, you know, offenses will, I'm sure, readjust and get, you know, still more of an advantage. But to answer your question in a long-winded way i think most fantasy managers will stick with the guys that they have been starting because it requires carrying two quarterbacks i don't think many people want to do that don't happen oh that's a good point you don't want to use that roster spot i don't really feel like i'm watching the game when i watch the manning cast i think that's my issue you don't get the crowd
Starting point is 00:22:21 noise you know there's no noise i don't know it doesn't it just well nicholson was amazing absolutely amazing he was an intrepid reporter or at least a curious fanatic he just kept hammering them with questions and then kind of throwing barbs at him while asking the question i thought rivers would be better uh but it was really fun to watch eli get squirmish when peyton asked rivers about if he ever thought what would happen if he ended up in New York and Eli ended up with the Chargers. Oh, man, I wish I had seen that. Well, Steve Levy was great. They were quoting stepbrothers.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Give them a little credit. All right, Jamie, officially, I think you probably just ran it off, but officially, who are the top three quarterbacks to add this week? For me, it would go Cam one, Tua two, and I've gone back and forth on those two guys. I actually would start Tua over Cam this week. So if you're just looking at a one week replacement, Tua's better. But I think long-term, especially when you look at the schedules,
Starting point is 00:23:13 I like Cam a little bit better. And then Fields is third. You know, I'm hopeful for all three of them to be, you know, become weekly starters. And Fields has a great matchup this week as well. He's in the starting conversation also, but I don't want to overreact to him scoring over 20 fantasy points just once
Starting point is 00:23:28 this season to say he's better than what Tua has shown you in some good matchups and what Cam could potentially show you with the weapons he has around him. Both Tua and Cam have a bye. What do you think, guys, about Cam Newton's postseason schedule? If anybody actually cares about that. I mean, you might just be picking him up for one week. That's not fun. Yes, you're right.
Starting point is 00:23:43 His postseason schedule is not fun. Buffalo, Tampa Bay, New Orleans. That's his fantasy postseason schedule, weeks 15 through 18. Although Tampa Bay, who knows what they look like by the time we get there. Yeah. I want to say their defense is playing better lately, but it's hard to make that case. It doesn't help. Yeah, well, who'd they lose?
Starting point is 00:24:01 They lost Veya. But they're getting healthier. They're getting healthier in the secondary. Well, they weren't healthy on Sunday. Sherman got hurt in pregame warm-ups. Oh, they forgot about Sherman, yeah. And D. Delaney was a backup, and he got hurt during the game.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Yeah, but Carlton Davis coming back, and who knows what with Murphy Bunning. Murphy Bunning could come back soon, too. Yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens with that secondary. That situation, though, for Cam doesn't really matter. It's not about the secondary. It's more about what they do at stopping him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I feel like even in recent Cam Newton, go back a few years ago when he was starter for the Panthers, matchups didn't necessarily matter for him. It really just mattered if he got in the end zone because you know he's not going to throw for a lot of yards. He was a frustrating guy. I recall, it's a rollercoaster ride with Cam. And it was just,
Starting point is 00:24:48 he scored that one-yard touchdown, or two of them, you know, a game. And he had these huge games and some really bad games as well. And I'm worried that we're completely not thinking about the downside with Newton. Like, we're all totally absorbed into the storyline
Starting point is 00:25:05 of him going back to carolina and having some fun but there's like we saw horrible play from him last year and we saw horrible play from him the last time he was in carolina so i'm just worried that like the narrative is fun and i love it and i'm glad he's back but i don't think his arm is suddenly going to you know turn into payton Manning's arm or anything like that. I think the thing, though, when you look at the three guys we're talking about here, they all have flaws. I mean, you know, Tua has certainly shown you his flaws and is he going to stay healthy?
Starting point is 00:25:37 Fields has shown you his flaws early in the season and who knows if he's completely cured of everything that he was dealing with. He still has an interception into the last two games as well. So, you know, all of these guys, I think, have a positive and certainly a negative that they're not must-start guys the rest of the way. So it's just a matter of which guy you buy into the most. All right, Dave.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Someone, Ronald, in our chat wants to see your T-shirt. It looks like Red Fox. I really want him to show it. Please. Is it? I'll show it please is it i'll show it on ask fft noon eastern on november 16th 2021 on cbs sports hq all right all right what a tease all right dave uh the top running backs top running backs for me it's romandre stevenson number one far and away it's the only
Starting point is 00:26:19 guy this week i would spend more than 11 of my fab. I think it's going to take close to 20% to get him because there's going to be a lot of hype around him. Deontay Foreman is second best for me. And then after that, I don't have a clear cut third guy. If you want to wait for Latavius Murray, it's not exciting. You can go grab him. Ty Johnson's giving you a safe PPR floor in four of his last five games. Brandon Bolden is still out there in half the leagues. You can speculate on Gallman, speculate on Benjamin,
Starting point is 00:26:50 speculate on Rex Burkhead. I don't have a top three, Adam. I have a top two. And then after Deontay Foreman, the rest of the list is crap. And usually, if Deontay Foreman is on a list, it's a crap list.
Starting point is 00:27:01 But in this case, Foreman is getting such an opportunity that he's better than the crap, if you get i'm saying yeah but don't you he's no longer crap don't you feel like gallman is going to have a role i really don't okay obviously patterson could play okay but but go ahead but gallman could have a role and he might just be better than mike davis i know that they haven't they haven't shown that he's ahead of Mike Davis. He only works in garbage time. But they use two backs every week. Sure.
Starting point is 00:27:29 So there's a chance that Gallman plays in a secondary role, or maybe he even starts and Davis keeps the role that he's been in. This coaching staff knew what they had in Mike Davis before the season, in the season. They studied their offense after the bye. And even after the bye, when Mike Davis' playing time was going down, they didn't turn to Wayne Gallman then. And I've heard Arthur Smith talk about it in interviews. Gallman's been playing great.
Starting point is 00:27:56 We really should get him more time. They never really did. So maybe now is the time where they do it when they're just pushing to a corner and they need to put another running back on the field. But the point of adding somebody off the waiver wire is for what to speculate to see if they can become something. Are we really living in a world where Wayne Gallman becomes something significant in this version of the Atlanta Falcons offense? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I don't know. David continues to think absolutely. He can be relevant. Right. Look, you already said it's not easy to find the third guy off waivers. So I'm just thinking, like in our podcast league, I've been starting, finally got McCaffrey back, but I've been starting Darrell Williams every week.
Starting point is 00:28:37 He's my number two running back. Now you're going to need to pivot, right? Devontae Williams is my third running back, right? So again, and I think as running backs start to get healthy, some of these replacement options might not be there anymore. So, yeah, I think if Gallman can get 10 carries and a couple of catches against the Patriots, he might be okay. You never know.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah, see, you say Foreman's going to be the most added guy. I would hope he's going to be the most added guy, but I would not be surprised if Gallman is the most added guy because they're both coming from the same range and i think people are going to see okay there's nothing changing from the titans right now like we could sit here and say foreman should be the guy you should get the goal line opportunities he should maybe be a little bit more effective in the passing game okay we don't know if the titans are going to do that yeah but at least in atlanta you know there's a guy potentially gone and so you know i'm going to
Starting point is 00:29:22 guess just based on how our projections usually work on Sportsline, they're probably going to project Gallman for more fantasy points. If there is no Patterson, then they are for Foreman. And so that's going to obviously take people's, get people's attention as well. So it's just a matter of, you know, how it shakes out. But I would not be surprised if Gallman is the most added running back this week.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah, by the way, when we say most added, that does not mean that we think he should be added ahead of Ramondre Stevenson. It just means he has, you know, he's, that does not mean that we think he should be added ahead of Ramondre Stevenson. It just means he has, you know, he's, Stevenson's 51% rostered, right? Stevenson's 51% rostered, Foreman is like 7%, Gallman 3%. So they just have more room to go up. They'll end up being the most added.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Yeah, you know, I take that back. Since Stevenson's at the point where he's at, I don't think we'll see Gallman or Foreman over 50% added. So, Stevenson will probably be close to 90%, and I'm going to guess those other guys are close to 30% to 40%. Okay. Jamie, top wide receivers. We haven't talked too much about this.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I know you like Mooney. Who else? Yeah, Mooney would be the number one guy for me. Bateman's still second, just based on what we saw in the game against Miami, and I think he's still going to hold on to that role. And then I'll go back to Jacoby Myers third. It was nice to see him finally score a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I think Mac Jones will continue to get better, and they get the woeful Falcons this week. So I like the situation for Myers this week, and hopefully moving forward. I think wide receiver is really interesting. You got three... It's a muddled group. What's that?
Starting point is 00:30:36 It's a very muddled group. Yeah, yeah. And then I hate to go here because it's me, but you do have three Giants, maybe only two with Sterling Shepard not necessarily playing this week. And then you got like two Jets guys even. So if we just stay in the New York, New Jersey area, if you had to pick one from the Giants or the Jets,
Starting point is 00:30:57 who would it be and are you at all excited about those players? I'm not excited about them, but I would still go. If you give me the choice of Corey Davis, who's at 66%, I would go Davis one, Moore two, Gallaudet three,
Starting point is 00:31:11 Tony four. Dave? Gallaudet is number one for me. He's given you at least 10 PPR points in three of the four games he's played. Minimum 35 snaps.
Starting point is 00:31:20 He's averaged six and a half targets per game in those four games. It's just a matter of whether or not he can stay healthy. He would be one Corey Davis. If we're throwing him in, there would be two shepherd.
Starting point is 00:31:31 If we're looking at the rest of season would be three. Ah, Elijah Moore, Cadareous, Tony, I guess I'll take more over Tony. Four and five. I know Jamie didn't put shepherd in his rankings.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Yeah, I would go Davis, shepherd, more Gallaudet, Tony. Okay. Dave, who are the top tight ends to get? If you think that Logan Thomas has a chance to play this week, you should make him a target. If you can stash him on your IR, you should make him a target. He's available in 48% of leagues. But if you don't want to wait for him or if you think you can wait for him and not pick him up when waivers run in your league Wednesday morning,
Starting point is 00:32:06 Thursday morning, go right to Dan Arnold. He's number one. Great target volume over the last three or four games for him. 49% available. My second favorite tight end is just a one-week guy. It's Bengals tight end CJ Yuzomana mama that's it cj you matza i'm not sure what exactly it is but i like the matchup for him and i think that he can end up being a good one week guy now if you're not interested in a one week guy you
Starting point is 00:32:41 want a multi-week guy arnold clearly ahead of him. I think Tyler Coughlin has earned some love and deserves to go ahead of him as a multi-week guy. Cole Komet is going to be another interesting Chicago Bears player. He's available in 86% of leagues. And if all those guys are somehow gone, Adam Troutman, 97% available. He's been getting an uptick in playing time and targets really since Simeon became the quarterback for Nolans. All right. To recap here, top quarterback priorities, Cam Newton, Tua Tungabailoa,
Starting point is 00:33:11 Justin Fields. Running back, Stevenson and Foreman are going to be one and two. And then you could go Gallman three, maybe Latavius Murray, maybe a pass catching guy like Brandon Bolden. Ty Johnson or Brandon Bolden. Right. Ty Johnson has five or more catches in three of his last four games. In the other game in there, he had a receiving touchdown. The problem with Ty Johnson, though, is Zach Wilson's probably starting again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wide receiver Darnell Mooney, Rashad Bateman, Jacoby Myers. That was the top three for Jamie.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I think Dave would have Galladay up there. Galladay, Shepard, Bateman for me if it's rest of season. If it's not rest of season, it's Galladay Bateman Mooney. Okay. And then tight end, Dan Arnold, Logan Thomas. And you got like CJ Uzama, who Dave likes, uh, Colcomette, Tyler Conklin. And there are other names. There are a lot of guys in the same boat.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Evan Ingram will be in there as well against Tampa Bay. DSTs, Jamie, who do we got? And kickers. The Dolphins will be the best. Uh, you know, Just hoping that what we saw last week, really the last two weeks, but last week against Baltimore, where it seemed as if Brian Flores had more of a hand in the play calling, but clearly they're getting healthier and they're looking pretty dominant. And they get the Jets with most likely Zach Wilson, which is a good spot. The Panthers against Washington, their defense has played fantastic for the majority of the season, but certainly the last three weeks.
Starting point is 00:34:26 49ers get the Jaguars, Packers. You know, if you want to buy into what they've been doing, I get it. But we'll see if Minnesota has anything to offer, but I'll still put them on the list. And then the Chargers, if it's Mason Rudolph, even though it's going to be a Steelers home game in Los Angeles,
Starting point is 00:34:40 I still think you look at Mason Rudolph against any defense, you'll take your chances more times than not. Kickers would be Nick Folk, still continuing to produce I still think you look at Mason Rudolph against any defense, you'll take your chances more times than not. Kickers would be Nick Folk, still continuing to produce and still under 65% rostered. Randy Bullock, same situation. Zane Gonzalez, I didn't realize was a top 10 kicker, so you can buy into him with the offense potentially improving as well.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Jason Saunders gets the Jets, and we know the Jets have been really good for opposing kickers. And the same thing with Robbie Gold against the Jaguars. Is it Jason Saunders? No, it's Sanders. Jason Sanders. I was like, what? Yeah, so the Dolphins, not only do they have the Jets this week, they have the Panthers next week.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And obviously the Panthers are much worse with Sam Darnold, but it's not a bad matchup. Then they have the Giants. So it's Jets, Panthers, Giants, next three games for the Dolphins. Then they have a bye. Then they have the Jets. You might get some good weeks out of the Dolphins DST. Dave, you got any IDP?
Starting point is 00:35:35 I do. Davion Taylor has been a starter at linebacker for Philadelphia. He's had at least seven total tackles, six solo each of his last two games. He would be the first priority for me. Texans, Kamu Gruger Hill is the next guy up. He's been playing a lot and they're coming off the bye. If you want a Texans linebacker, that's going to stop a lot of runs. He would be the one to get Titans linebacker, Monty Rice at 11 total tackles against New Orleans. He would be next up. And then just two other guys on the peripheral at defensive back, Eric Rowe for Miami and on the D-line, Marcus Davenport
Starting point is 00:36:09 for the New Orleans Saints. All right, let's take a break. When we come back, we'll recap San Francisco 31, Rams 10. We'll get the drop-o-meter out and we'll go back over the waiver wire with some more names that you need to know. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? some more names that you need to know. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. San Francisco, 31, and the Rams, 10.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And San Francisco just with a great game plan. Now, I didn't officially see this, but I do think this is the case. Did you guys see the drive they had in the first quarter? I believe it was the longest drive of the season. Time-wise. Like 11 minutes. Yeah, because the longest drive of the season, from what I saw, was the
Starting point is 00:37:15 Washington football team. Washington won fourth quarter. Yeah, and then I think I'm pretty sure the Niners won was longer just in terms of time. And they had the ball for over 39 minutes in this game. So they just, you know, to be honest with you, they didn't run all that well, I guess, but they ran a lot. And they kept converting on third down and such.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Anyway. They used paper cuts to take down the Ram. What were your big takeaways, Dave? That the 49ers used paper cuts to take down the Rams. That L.A.'s offensive line is a problem. And I remember thinking like when they, when they acquired Odell Beckham, my first thought was a sarcastic,
Starting point is 00:37:52 can he block? Because I knew that the offensive line was going to start to become an issue for them. And then I thought, well, maybe they think that they can get defenses to play back a little bit and you know, only rush for and not blitz very often because the receiving
Starting point is 00:38:05 core would be so deep. And then Robert Woods got hurt. So I feel like this isn't the expectation for Stafford moving forward. I think he's going to have some good games. He'll eventually get on the same page with OBJ where he's not chucking it in his general vicinity where it's just an easy interception, 40 plus yards downfield like he did in the first quarter. Cup is still the man. Van Jefferson's going to have a significant role rest of season. That's good to see. Well, let's talk about Beckham versus Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I also think the Rams have to get back to running the football more. They can't ignore it. It's been a staple of what Sean McVay's done. I know it kind of gets thrown, you know, out of the headlines a little bit, but they got to try and get their ground game going again. All right. But how do you feel about Beckham versus Jefferson? Beckham just, you know, I didn't see the snap count. He played 27% of the snaps. So obviously they were easing him in Jefferson plays most of the snaps, most games, but I think it's discouraging that he's had six
Starting point is 00:39:03 to seven targets, four straight games, and he's been under 50 yards in three of them. And in this game, you know, he could, he dropped two. He bobbled the touchdown. Dropped a touchdown. He dropped a slant. I think it was that could have been, I don't know, maybe like a 20 yard gain. He could have had a huge game. But, but the box score doesn't show that.
Starting point is 00:39:21 So Beckham versus Jefferson going forward, who would you take? I think I'd rather have Beckham on the hunch that he ends up getting more targets and that Van Jefferson settles back into that role that he had when Beckham wasn't there and Woods was there, which is to say that Van Jefferson will matter. He'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Maybe it's like a number three fantasy receiver, but Odell can be a better number three receiver just because I think it's clear from the interception. They don't mind trying him as a downfield guy and Stafford has better downfield accuracy than Baker Mayfield does. So I would imagine that those two will eventually learn to connect with each other. Jamie, would you drop Van Jefferson or Odell Beckham for Darnell Mooney or whoever else? Rashad Bailey? I mean, if I need a receiver for this week, I would drop Jefferson for Mooney, but I'd like to stash Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Like you said, he's got at least six targets in three games in a row. We have to see what they do with Beckham. You know, that last night wasn't a good indication of what this offense is going to look like, you know, because the offensive line struggled because they were trying to work
Starting point is 00:40:17 Beckham in because they got the shock of losing Robert was on Friday, you know, so there wasn't a lot of practice time to adjust. So I think give them a buy see what happens coming off the buy uh so if you could stash jefferson certainly do that obviously you should be stashing odell beckham because hopefully there's a strong finish for the season without woods on the field so i i would like to hold on to the rams if i can while they're off boy daryl henderson's really struggling lately he's got eight or fewer PPR, five or fewer,
Starting point is 00:40:46 yeah, five or fewer non-PPR points in four of his last five games, I think, or is it three of his last four? Yeah, three of his last four. I'm sorry. Dave, you said they have to get back to running the ball more, but is Daryl Henderson,
Starting point is 00:41:01 do you think he's in line for a strong finish? I think he is. Without looking at the matchups and knowing exactly what they're up against, I think the Rams will go back to him. And I think he's a tremendous buy-low candidate right now. His value's in the tank. So if you need a running back, he might be the guy to go trade for.
Starting point is 00:41:19 And then also pick up Sonny Michel at the same time. You're going to have to make two transactions to lock up this Rams backfield, but I think it'll be worth it. Once again, Daryl Henderson evaluated for an injury. How often does a guy get evaluated for a concussion and come back? He did come back, thankfully, but he's flirting with injuries and he's already missed time once
Starting point is 00:41:38 this year. That's why you need Michel if you've got Henderson. And Michel's 45% rostered. You should probably, if you can, pick him up anyway. He's probably going to get dropped going into his buy in some leagues. Okay. Debo Samuel is a legit star. I just completely underestimated him.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Now he's a running back. It was fun. They lined up Mitchell at receiver a couple times and Debo in the back. It was amazing. How can you say sell high at this point? What do you think about Debo Jamie rest of season? Sell high?
Starting point is 00:42:12 No, you're loving this. He's been arguably the best fantasy receiver based on his draft capital from where you got him and where he is now. You can say the same thing about Cup, but Cup was like a fourth-round pick, fifth-round pick maybe, but Debo Samuel was double digits. He's my biggest whiff by far.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I did not expect him to do this. I thought this would be Ayuk leading the way for the 49ers receiving core, and Debo's back to being a supercharged version of what he was two years ago. It's awesome. Hopefully Jimmy G keeps the job. You've noted this, Adam. I think somebody brought it up to you that, and it's improved, obviously,
Starting point is 00:42:48 that they're in the playoff race and stronger than ever right now with a good matchup against Jacksonville coming up in week 12. So no reason to see Trey Lance playing anytime soon, which is great for the receiving core there. And he's done this now the last, or did this this week.
Starting point is 00:43:03 You know, last week was a little bit more frustrating, but having this game with Iuke and George Kittle on the field, you know, it's a good sign that he's still going to be a pretty dominant force. And as far as Iuke goes, I'm sorry. Would you drop Iuke for, would you drop Iuke in general or hang on?
Starting point is 00:43:20 I would drop him for some of the receivers. I mean, I would like to hold him if I can. You know, again, it's a game where they didn't have to throw very much, and they may not have to against Jacksonville, and they may not have to very much moving forward. But at least you saw some flashes in the two previous games. So I would still prefer to hold him. I don't know if there's much more upside for Mooney or the Jets guys
Starting point is 00:43:40 or the Giants guys based on what IU can offer as well. I'd go the other way. I would drop him for Galladay and PPR leagues. If I could wait for Sterling Shepard, I would drop him for Shepard. I would drop him for Bateman. I would drop him for Mooney. I really, I mean, just because you brought it up, how do you have any faith in the Giants wide receivers?
Starting point is 00:44:01 How do you have any faith in their offense? I don't. Shepard is the only one. And the fact that he's heard is, is, is frustrating because, you know, the thing that we've saw,
Starting point is 00:44:10 we've seen Ingram's playing better, you know, two touchdowns in his last three games. His targets have gone up. Galladay, is he going to stay healthy? Tony, is he going to be involved when everybody else is on the field?
Starting point is 00:44:20 I don't have a lot of faith in them. And, and like we said, the Tampa Bay secondary is getting better. I don't know how Daniel Jones will do in a primetime matchup against that defense. Coming off two straight losses, by the way, also. Oh, I know. I was so pissed that Washington beat Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I was like, oh gosh, now we're going to get pummeled. I saw somebody tweet, though, that Daniel Jones must be super excited that Trevor Simeon and Taylor Heineke have just beaten Tom Brady back-to-back weeks. Yeah, the Bucs are going to show up. It's not really a far drive for them. They should show up. Do you know who the one seeds are right now in their respective conferences?
Starting point is 00:44:53 In the conferences? Yeah, Tennessee and the AFC. And Arizona, right? No. Green Bay. Oh, Green Bay, yeah. Before I beat Arizona. Yeah, Tennessee is the one.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And Carolina is the seven. Tennessee has such an Green Bay, yeah. Arizona. Yeah, Tennessee is the one. And Carolina is the seven. Tennessee has such an easy path to hold the one. Yeah, they really do. Are they going to be that team that gets the bye and then loses in the divisional round? They lose the home game? Probably. Henry could definitely be back.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Keep that in mind. Henry could be back. It's been... I mean, Mike Rabel's looking like the coach of the year if they get the one. Their defense, what it's become based on where it was, like the identity of this team has flipped completely. They could be really dangerous if Derrick Henry's back.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Okay, let's go to the drop-o-meter. Ryan Tannehill, speaking of first place starting quarterback, he's got Houston this week. Drop-o-meter on Tannehill. Two. Five. Are you starting him this week? You could.
Starting point is 00:45:58 I have the league where you beat me, which is our IDP league. My quarterbacks are Matt Ryan and Ryan Tannehill, so that's an easy one. I would start him ahead of Fields. He's a low-end starter. I would start Tua ahead of him. I just like the matchup against the Jets for Tua. That's probably the only
Starting point is 00:46:13 streaming guy. For Tannehill, if you're not starting him this week against Houston, I don't think you're going to start him at New England, and then he has a bye. If you're holding on to him and you're not using him this week, it's probably three weeks in a row where you're not using him. Just keep that in mind.
Starting point is 00:46:29 How about Jeremy McNichols and or Adrian Peterson? How droppable are they? McNichols is a nine. 25 plus. Peterson is like a seven. Could score this week. He could. He can get you exactly what he got you two weeks ago. 10 for 21
Starting point is 00:46:46 on a touchdown. He looked a little bit better. 8 for 21 and nothing. Yeah, he looked a little bit better, but I mean, this is a three-headed monster until one of them either separates from the pack or another one of them gets hurt. Drop-O-Meter
Starting point is 00:47:02 on Cole Beasley, 93% rostered. Zero. Zero. Three. Emmanuel Sanders, 97% rostered. Four. Four. Jarvis Landry, 82%. 12 in non-PPR, 6 in PPR.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Sure. Donovan Peoples-Jones, 81%. He's droppable. From what Dave said, PPR versus non-PPR. Gotcha. Yeah, Peoples-Jones is probably going to be one of those guys where he's up, he's down, he's some good games. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:36 He was the one that suffered from what Odell suffered from for all that time in Cleveland. He had an end zone target that was off target. Couldn't catch it. I think he dropped another pass. Like he had a bad game in a big opportunity against the Patriots. Marvin Jones, 89% rostered zero to 10.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Bye. What was that? A buyer? A five by bye. Adios. Trevor Lawrence has thrown five touchdown passes since week one. Cortland Sutton, 96% rostered, going into his bye week. Comes back, gets the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:48:15 See ya. Bye. Okay. 10. 10. What a shame. To the waiver wire. So, all right.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Cam Newton, Tua, and Fields. That's Jamie's order for this week. Or, I'm sorry, or did you say you like Tua better this week? If you need a one-week replacement, Tua would be the best way to go for one week. But I think Cam has a little bit higher ceiling moving forward.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Okay. Does Fields have the highest ceiling moving forward yes you can argue that but i think again they're all three kind of very similar you know you've seen two has been you know not fair to say to cam but two has been the best of these of this trio in terms of his highs from what we saw against jacksonville in atlanta um cam obviously has a pedigree you can buy into and and field is the wild card you, so he's looked much better the last two weeks, but as a result of looking better, only one game over 20 fantasy points, you know, so is he going to just look good and not have big production?
Starting point is 00:49:13 Is he going to be in a game where, you know, Baltimore's defense finally figures out it out that, but you know, the hope would be as he continues to run 38 rushing yards or more in four straight games and his receiving core starting to play better, you know, with Colt Comet coming on in the game against Pittsburgh, what Darnell Mooney's done, and maybe whatever he gets out of Allen Robinson, which is the crappiest thing to say that he's the one you have to throw in. But I think there's a lot to like about all three of these guys, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:49:36 They're all going to, you know, use their legs to a certain extent. Tua, honestly, might be underselling his ceiling if he gets back Devontae Parker and Will Fuller down the stretch. Right, and they still have such a bad run game. Yeah, and they've been one of the past heaviest teams all year. So I think you can make that case for Tua. I like Tua the best just for Week 11, but Fields is getting more comfortable. You can tell when you watch him play.
Starting point is 00:50:02 The fact that he's running more than he did earlier this season is a huge perk for him. The offensive line in Chicago might end up being the biggest and healthiest offensive line in all of football for the rest of the season. They're getting back Tevin Jenkins. He should man one of the tackle spots. Recently, they got back Larry Borum. That offensive line could be really, really good. That will only help Justin Fields. And I got this weird feeling that Allen Robinson's going to end up mattering in the second half of the season.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I think Fields has a chance to be maybe a league winner. So I'm really happy to try and stash him first, even if I don't necessarily need, if I really, like if I've got Josh Allen, I'm not getting Justin Fields. But if I've been kind of streaming, or if I'm a little nervous about Justin Herbert and I can get Justin Fields I'm taking him first ahead of Tua and Cam Newton okay yeah the last time we saw Justin Fields he it seemed like he had a breakout moment we'll see if he can continue it but it was really good down the stretch against the Steelers now and And he's been making great throws, especially intermediate and downfield throws,
Starting point is 00:51:07 like last three or four games. Like he's really been showing off what his upside is. And it's just a matter of him. It's a matter of time of him meeting that upside, but is it going to be in 2021 or 2022? And my hunch is that because the offensive line is going to be healthier, that it's going to be 2021. And last thing, Baltimore is just really not that good of a defense this year.
Starting point is 00:51:30 So you see Baltimore on the schedule. It's trying to fall apart a little. Not that tough. Jimmy Garoppolo is playing pretty well lately. He only scored 19 points last night, but that was on 19 pass attempts. That's coming after two straight games with 320-plus yards. Jacksonville. We got on FFT yesterday. What's that? Oh, the prop? Yep. 121 completions plus yards. Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:51:46 What's that? Oh, the prop? Yep. 121 completions plus 100. Nice. Jacksonville, the last two quarterbacks to face them were Allen and Wentz. They scored 16 points combined. So I don't know how you feel about Garoppolo this week against this surging defense. They're playing much better. Absolutely playing much better
Starting point is 00:52:03 for Jacksonville. You got Jimmy Garoppolo, you got Mac Jones facing Atlanta. They're playing much better. Absolutely playing much better for Jacksonville. All right, look, Jacksonville, you got Jimmy Garoppolo, you got Mack Jones facing Atlanta. They're horrible. Taylor Heineke at Carolina. I'll throw in Trevor Simeon at Philadelphia. Baker Mayfield against Detroit.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Anyone that's going to crack your top 15? No. Of the last three that you mentioned? No, Garoppolo, Jones, Heineke, Simeon, Mayfield. No. Of the last three that you mentioned? No. Garoppolo, Jones, Heineke, Simeon, Mayfield. No. Is Mayfield even going to play? Supposedly.
Starting point is 00:52:33 They said that he could have come back in, but they were just getting walloped, so they didn't even bother. Mack is my favorite of the bunch, but none of them are top 15. Alright, let's go to running backs then. Let's talk about some guys we haven't discussed. Okay, so Mike Davis, Miles Sanders, and Alex Collins. I asked Dave earlier, and you said Sanders, right?
Starting point is 00:52:55 I did. Okay. Jamie, how about you? Mike Davis, Miles Sanders, Alex Collins. Yeah, Sanders for sure. Yeah, I wouldn't even consider Alex Collins at this point. They're using too many guys without Chris Carson there. But are they?
Starting point is 00:53:07 They were expected to this past week. All right. How about Jordan Howard? He's not good. Jordan Howard, yeah. Well, you could say that. Jordan Howard's 71% rostered. We don't know that Sanders has come back this week, first of all.
Starting point is 00:53:23 But also, they have the Saints, unfortunately. So if you saw Howard out there and you saw Ramondre Stevenson out there, who would you go with? Stevenson by a mile. Maybe even a mile and a half. If you saw Miles Sanders out there and Stevenson, who would you go with? Sanders. Am I looking for a running back for this week or for the rest of the season?
Starting point is 00:53:44 Well, you answer both. Stevenson for this week, Sanders rest of season. Okay. I mentioned this on yesterday's show. And yeah, that could come back to bite you because Harris could play, but by Tuesday, we'll have a better idea of that.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Uh, yes. So anyway, I mentioned on yesterday's show, a writer for the athletic, just speculating. I'll, I'll just read the quote.
Starting point is 00:54:07 He said... Oh, wait. I have it in Slack with Dave. Sorry. I've got to look it up. All right. Well, I'll come back to that. Adam doesn't have his stuff entirely ready to tell you about Miles. Didn't he say something like, even though Sanders is coming back for an hour?
Starting point is 00:54:22 What happens when Miles Sanders is healthy enough to return? The running back will be eligible to come off IR as soon as this week. But it's fair to wonder if the Eagles won't mind if he takes his time coming back. Sanders is Philadelphia's most explosive running back, to be sure. But he might not be the one best served by the offense's style at the moment. If the Eagles want someone to take what's there instead of dancing in search of the big play, the Scott-Howard combination is working just fine.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Thank you very much. Something to think about. All right. Ooh, the thank you very much. Yeah, right? Okay, other running backs. We've got to get into the deeper leagues here. We've got... so so okay it was
Starting point is 00:55:07 stevenson foreman gallman latavius murray jeff wilson had 10 carries but eli mitchell had i believe 27 patrick taylor is the number two running back presumably for the for the packers aaron jones until jones comes yeah aaron jones missed a couple of games last year, and A.J. Dillon was the number two running back, and he had five or six touches in those two games. Eno Benjamin, Ty Johnson. You got Brandon Bolden and Boston Scott who are in the mix. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Jamie, you have any thoughts on some of the names I just mentioned? That would be Patrick Taylor, Eno Benjamin, Ty Johnson, Jeff Wilson, Brandon Bolden, Boston Scott. Yeah, I have no interest in Ty Johnson unless Michael Carter's hurt, especially with Tevin Coleman back. I have no interest in Brandon Bolden right now with what Stevenson's showing you. In terms of those other guys, Wilson could be a lottery ticket because if something happens to Elijah Mitchell, as we've said for many, many weeks now, when he's healthy, I think he'll end up being the second best guy there. And they didn't even bother to use Trey Sermon with Jermichael Hasty out. I don't think Jermichael Hasty would be the lead guy,
Starting point is 00:56:12 so Jeff Wilson should be added if you have a roster to play with. Taylor's a short-term speculative add. What happens if A.J. Dillon goes down and Aaron Jones is more than just one to two weeks? So if you have an open roster spot in deeper leagues there, I'd put him behind Benjamin because Benjamin, we know, is going to be the second guy for Arizona. With Chase Edmonds out
Starting point is 00:56:28 maybe four to six weeks, he's on IR, so at least two more weeks. So, you know, I would put, I would go Wilson, Benjamin, Wilson, Benjamin, Taylor, and I wouldn't care about Ty Johnson or Brandon Baldwin,
Starting point is 00:56:38 these guys right now. Okay, you wouldn't care about Ty Johnson if Mike White started? If Mike White starts, yes, then I'd have more interest in him, but I don't think we're going to see Mike White again. I think the pumpkin is, he's turned into a pumpkin again. What about Boston Scott? You said no on him, 54%?
Starting point is 00:56:53 No, I mean, Miles Sanders is coming back, and he's still in the timeshare. So he looked really good against the Broncos, but he's not been great in the interim without Sanders on the field. We don't know for sure that Sanders is back this week, though, do we? We do not know, but I would anticipate him coming back this week. Yeah, and they have really beat up on terrible run defenses, and this week they get the best one in football in New Orleans. We'll see how that plays out.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Okay, wide receivers. You've got Corey Davis just missing the cut. He's 66%. Where would he be on your list, Jamie? Which is Darnell Mooney 1, Bateman 2, Jacoby Myers 3. Where would Corey Davis fall? He would be third. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And then you have Elijah Moore, Michael Gallup, Kenny Galladay, Kadarius Toney. Dave likes Galladay a lot more than that. Let's talk about guys that are available in almost every league. Ray Ray McLeod for the Steelers. 12 targets. That was wild.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And he should have had a touchdown. Deontay Harris. Basically all the Saints guys. DeAndre Carter. Two straight games with 51 to 56 yards and a touchdown for Washington. Marcus Johnson for Tennessee just had 100 yards. Brian Edwards is more rostered than them, but he's only 27% rostered. Gabriel Davis. Dave, maybe there's someone else out there,
Starting point is 00:58:11 but Ray-Ray McLeod, Saints receivers, DeAndre Carter, Marcus Johnson, Brian Edwards, Gabriel Davis. What do you think about these guys? They're good, but the one that I would tell you is Jamal Agnew, who's available in 86 percent of leagues he's given you at least 10 ppr points in four of his last five don't look and see how he's done it because it's been fluky as hell but he's managed to do it and it's 12 ppr three of his last four he's got a role in this jacksonville offense and i don't know if he's in in jeopardy of losing it because he didn't make any catches last week, but he had that explosive 69-yard touchdown run,
Starting point is 00:58:48 and I think that that's going to propel him to continue to see work in the offense. He's my favorite of the guys that you mentioned. Brian Edwards should be getting more targets. He's just not getting a lot of them. I think it's like four per game, But big, physical, rangy outside receiver. He should be getting more work in Las Vegas. And I think he does have breakout potential. I just wish he'd get more targets.
Starting point is 00:59:12 He would be second for me on the list. And Deontay Harris is third. He's only been playing about a third of the snaps. He's given you at least 10 PPR points in four of his last five. Don't look and see how he's done it, but just be happy that he's giving it to you. I wonder if he eventually ascends in new orleans offense plays a little bit more they use that speed a little bit
Starting point is 00:59:31 more and his target rate goes even higher than his target rate's been pretty good better than brian edwards and he could end up being somebody who could help you out a little bit maybe it's like a spot starting number three receiver by a weak guy. I want to go back to Ray McLeod for a second because you mentioned the targets. And first game without Chase Claypool, is it a byproduct of that's a guy that Mason Rudolph is comfortable with or is it going to be something that changes when Ben Roethlisberger is back on the field?
Starting point is 00:59:58 So he's absolutely worth speculating on because if Claypool is going to miss time with that toe injury and these are the opportunities he's going to get, he could be really special in PPR. And and Jamie I want to finish up on the wide receivers and talk more about the Mooney group you know Mooney Bateman Myers Elijah Moore Gallup Giants wide receivers if we're just thinking long term who in this group do you think has and I'll throw Corey Davis in there too, who in this group do you think has must-start potential in your fantasy playoffs? I can't believe I'm relying on Corey Davis or Mooney or Tony or whatever. Mooney.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I mean, you know, we can't sit here and say Fields is playing better and has this great opportunity in front of him without looking at who's been his best receiver for the majority of the season. And so while Robinson may have an opportunity and Komet may have an opportunity, Mooney's proven that he can be a go-to guy for Justin Fields so far. And so schedule sets up nicely for him. I think we'll see if Fields does have better protection and he's more comfortable, that's the guy he's going to look for down the field. So Mooney could be a league winner, absolutely. Okay. Maybe there's more than one. I didn't know. Oh, I mean, if you want to go more than one.
Starting point is 01:01:04 There's a lot of potential on this list here. Yeah, there's a than one. I didn't know. Oh, I mean, if you want to go more than one. There's a lot of potential on this list here. Yeah, there's a lot of potential. I mean, Bateman is somebody that they're going to continue to use. And I think just based on how Lamar Jackson is playing and throwing the ball right now, you've got to be encouraged by the continued growth and taking a step forward in the last game, even though they look miserable.
Starting point is 01:01:20 But that was the game with Sammy Watkins on the field, and Watkins struggled. So I think he has the potential also to be a, you know, number three receiver and three receiver. At least I don't think any of these guys are top 24 guys. Mooney would be the closest, but you know, with all the giants healthy, I think it's going to be tough to trust any of them with the jets guys, you know, how will Zach Wilson, you know, play with these, play with everybody there.
Starting point is 01:01:42 You know, we saw more do a lot of his... Moore had a lot of his best production when Corey Davis was out with a hip injury. So does Davis coming back just kind of wreck that a little bit? That's the concern there. Myers is... I don't think he's going to all of a sudden start finding the end zone on a regular basis. But PPR-wise, you've seen some of the potential for him.
Starting point is 01:01:59 So that's somebody you could buy into as well. Let's take a look at the tight ends now. If Hunter Henry, Dave were available, he's 77% rostered. He's got the most unsustainable profile, but would you pick up Hunter Henry or Dan Arnold? I'd pick up Arnold just because I know that he's getting more targets, and just because he hasn't scored a touchdown yet doesn't mean that he's never, ever, ever going to,
Starting point is 01:02:21 although Lawrence is his quarterback. There's a chance of that happening. I just hate the downside of Hunter Henry when he doesn't score a touchdown. It's going to be two fantasy points for your squad. So I'd rather take the safety net that Dan Arnold provides rather than Hunter Henry. I guess the only counter to that would be we've only seen it once in the last two months. It's been crazy, but Adam said it. I agree with it.
Starting point is 01:02:46 I don't think it's necessarily sustainable where he's going to catch a touchdown every single week. I guess the other part would be, how hurt is Jonu Smith? Oh, I don't even think Jonu matters anymore. Well, I mean, we saw his best game in terms of targets, catches, and yards in a long time in the first game without Jonu. With last week? Yeah. No the first game without johnny with last week yeah no first game without johnny well you mean you mean week 10 hunter henry yeah that it wasn't much but it was a spike in targets and catches for him i thought it was a
Starting point is 01:03:15 spike in four targets then you have huge two targets yeah um yeah all right and then you got logan thomas who's got this really good schedule beginning in week 13 las vegas dallas philadelphia dallas philadelphia uh cole commit i would still put the seattle matchup in there too sure carolina's good not great uh and uh yeah see then seattle in week 12 rightosing track of the weeks here. Carolina's getting better. All right, Komet or Conklin this week, guys? Who are you going with? Who?
Starting point is 01:03:50 Komet or Conklin? I'll go Conklin. I'll take a long-term appeal of Komet. Right, but just for this week, it's Conklin. Yeah, no, I still go Komet. Okay, how about Logan Thomas or Komet or Conklin? Logan. Thomas, Komet, Conklin. Evan Ingram or Gerald Everett?
Starting point is 01:04:13 Ingram. Ingram. Adam Troutman. Oh, my gosh. He's got six of seven targets in three straight games, and he faces the Eagles. We need to come up with a nickname for the Eagles based on how bad they are against tight ends.
Starting point is 01:04:27 What could it be? The flyover. The flyover. The T-gles. They're so bad. The feebles. What did you say? The T-gles.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Oh, tight end, yeah. T and the E. That's good, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Troutman. Where are you going to end up ranking him? Significantly outside the top 12. I mean, he's just not scoring. Not yet.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Not scoring and not getting a lot of yards when he does make catches. Okay, but he's got the feebles. And Cameron Braid against the Giants is another guy you could look at. What about Jeff Swaim against Houston? He gets five targets a week now. Yeah, he's been involved in what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:05:11 He's playing a lot for them, too, if I recall correctly. No one's going to prioritize him. No one's looking for him off the waiver wire. But there's also no guarantee that this target rate will continue. And then Michael wrote together. Yeah, true. DST streamers, Dolphins are the headliner, Panthers. It feels like Swaim is the new Ferxer and Pruitt is the new Janu.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Oh, well, that was really reliable last year. Would you start the Browns DST or the Dolphins? Browns against the Lions, Dolphins against the Jets. Dolphins. Miami Dolphins. Okay, and then would you... Although the Browns are as close to a sure thing as you could get at a DST. Every single DST against Detroit this year has given you at least eight points.
Starting point is 01:06:02 How about the Tennessee Titans against Houston or the Dolphins? Titans are my top DST. Ah, all righty. Okay, kickers are Nick Folk, Randy Bullock, Zing Gonzalez, Jason Sanders, Robbie Gold. We're done. Thanks for watching and listening, everybody. We'll see you tonight, 8 p.m. Eastern,
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