Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Walker, Taysom, Deep Leagues and More! (10/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 11, 2022

Of course add Ken Walker if he is available, but if he isn't there are still plenty of great options on the waiver wire this week. We'll give you the top priorities (2:15) including Walker, Eno Benjam...in, Geno Smith and perhaps deep league options like the Colts running backs. We also spend some time on Taysom Hill (7:45) ... How much FAB are we spending (14:14) on guys like Jakobi Meyers and Taysom? Who are the deep league targets (19:05)? We also answer a few questions (23:25) about players going into their bye week and the possibility of the Panthers trading their best players ... News and notes (24:35), recapping Raiders-Chiefs (27:45) and getting deeper into the waiver wire at QB (34:30), RB (39:40), WR (48:40), TE (55:50), DST (1:00:00) and Kicker. We discuss Carson Wentz, Mike Boone, Alec Pierce, Evan Engram and many, many more ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Let's spend some fab. Let's make some waiver claims. Jamie, this is it. This is the best week so far, right? It's the weirdest week. I mean, thinking about the fact that, depending on the size of your league, you could be adding the stellar names of Raheem Mostert,
Starting point is 00:02:01 Kasem Hill, Geno Smith, Jacoby Myers. I'm not sure I put Myers in that category. But, you know, it's a bunch of like... Can you believe you're putting Geno Smith in that category? No, but that's the point, though. No, I'm not talking about Myers being in the must-add category. I'm talking about the names that we're referencing here.
Starting point is 00:02:19 That they've been around forever and ever and ever. And they've never really done anything significant. And here you are saying, spend fab on these guys. Yeah, let's go. Oh, if you're in a shallow league and Dave, I want you to tell us if you have it, I can get the roster percentage for Ken Walker on other websites, just so people know where we're coming from. But if you're in a shallower league and this is like waiver wire Nirvana for you, there's so many good, good options, including of course, Ken Walker, who's 68 percent rostered in cbs sports leagues and what about on espn and yahoo he's available in 52 percent of
Starting point is 00:02:50 leagues on espn and 55 percent on yahoo and he will not be by the end of this week he will be rostered in 100 percent of every league on every site in the universe. Aliens are picking up Kenneth Walker to put on their alien fantasy leagues. Buy is this week. We have four of them. Welcome to Buy Weeks. Las Vegas, Detroit, Tennessee, and Houston. So you're going to need some replacements,
Starting point is 00:03:17 specifically for Derek Carr, obviously Derek Henry. Not a terrible Buy Week. Devante Adams, of course, blah, blah, blah. But hopefully Darren Waller can get healthy over the bye week as he barely played last night. Gave you a zero, unfortunately, in a thrilling game, which we'll try to get to. I'm only going to be here for about 20 minutes,
Starting point is 00:03:34 so my time is limited. So let's get to it right now. Top three waiver wire priorities. You know, Ken Walker's above the threshold of 65%. Jamie, he's at 68%. He's obviously number one if he's available, right? I mean, you could potentially spend the rest of your fab on him if you are stuck and need a running back or your season is lost
Starting point is 00:03:54 and you're trying just to salvage it in any way you can. So, yes, he should be the number one player added. And then it's just kind of, I think, what you need. If you need a quarterback, Smith could easily be the second player. If you need another running back, Benjamin's in a good spot, given the matchup that he has this week and the situation with the Cardinals backfield. Taysom Hill or Hayden Hurst, if you need a tight end. Jacoby Myers, Alec Pierce, Darius Slayton, if you need a wide receiver. There's a lot of different ways you can go here. If you're just asking me my top three
Starting point is 00:04:18 overall, I would say it's Ken Walker, Eno Benjamin, and I'll say Jacoby Myers third. How about you, Dave? That's the top three. Let's throw Walker out of there. I think Geno makes the cut. There are so many fantasy teams that are struggling at quarterback right now, and here's somebody who can right the ship. The schedule is great moving forward.
Starting point is 00:04:42 He's been playing great now. It's basically been every game this year except the 49ers game he's played really really well his receivers are playing really really well so i think he deserves top three consideration too even if you don't necessarily need geno smith you can pick him up you can make him your bi-week quarterback and then you can trade him and actually get something in trade because somebody will need, we'll give up something, not huge, but something off their bench to get a quarterback that they can fill in with moving forward. And he's got Arizona this week and they're 24th against quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It's Gino Smith. He's 55% rostered. If these guys are not available, you know, if we want to take a look at deeper leagues for the people out there going, none of these guys are available in my leagues. Cause it's a lot of guys who are right around 50%, 60% rostered this week. It's Geno Smith and Taysom Hill.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Jacoby Myers is somewhere near that range. So, you know, Benjamin is obviously available in a lot more leagues. But I do have to ask, guys, because James Conner and Cliff Kingsbury said he thought Conner was going to be fine, right? So should we be cautious with how much we spend on Eno Benjamin or even how much of a priority we make Eno Benjamin? And I don't even know the status of Darrell Williams, but just to rewind back to week one or two, whenever Connor got hurt, we were prioritizing Williams over Benjamin because Williams got the more valuable role,
Starting point is 00:05:58 the third down role, the inside the 10 yard line or whatever it was role. So he obviously left with an injury as well, but I don't know the severity of that one. I'm not sure if you guys do. But anyway, it's kind of a murky situation for Eno Benjamin, no? It is a murky situation, yes. I do think, though, that you are looking at, if you just watch their games, he's probably their most explosive running back, though,
Starting point is 00:06:19 through the first five weeks, you know, just based on how he's looked the part. Williams has had some moments. Connors had some moments. But now you're playing on two injuries for two veteran guys you know williams doesn't necessarily have that track record of being banged up like connor does but at this point this is now two injuries for connor and if benjamin is going to be maybe the second guy because he continues to play in tandem with with connor but if he's the second guy with williams he might get even more work so So the running back position is a little tricky this week because again, Walker is rostered
Starting point is 00:06:47 in a lot of our leagues already. You mentioned Benjamin after Benjamin, you know, there are some deep league options. If the Colts guys are missing, Dion Jackson's available in about 95% of leagues. You have Pierre Strong and Joshua Kelly getting good opportunities. Kelly clearly more so than Strong at this point. But Kelly looks like he's pulled ahead of Sonny Michelle. So he's an injury to Austin Eckler away from being, you know, a potential must-start player if that continues.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You know, it's the first time really that we've seen it where Kelly's really separated from Michel. He's available in over 90% of leagues. You know, so there are some guys that could be helpful to you. You know, may not be must-start guys like a Ken Walker or maybe a Benjamin, but Deion Jackson I thought looked good, you know, stepping in for the Colts. Phillip Lindsay also, you know, he's going to get some work if there is no Taylor or Hines.
Starting point is 00:07:30 So there are some running backs who could help you, but Benjamin to me, if he starts for the Cardinals, he's at least a flex, if not better, given the bye weeks and what the matchup is for them this week, taking on the Seahawks. Oh gosh, the Seahawks just so bad against running backs. They'll add 100 total yards to every running back they face this year. That's amazing. How about
Starting point is 00:07:48 if you don't need Eno Benjamin for this week, would you rather have Benjamin or Mike Boone? I'd probably... I think they're kind of similar, to be honest. Yeah, but I think I'd rather have the guy... So here's the thing. We don't know for sure that Conor and Darryl Williams are going to be out. And even if they're both out, Arizona's got Keontae Ingram.
Starting point is 00:08:12 He could end up being – he might end up being like a change of pace running down his back. I know that sounds a little weird, but he would probably be the second guy behind Eno Benjamin. I would imagine they trust Benjamin more. If we knew for sure those guys were out, of course I'd take Eno Benjamin. But because we don't, I feel a little more comfortable with Boone, but I would probably spend about the same amount of fab on Boone as I would on Benjamin in that instance. I think the safest thing to do with
Starting point is 00:08:39 Benjamin is spend the type of fab that you would spend on a passing downs back, because that's going to be his role the rest of the season season guy that gets three or four carries a game, three or four catches a game. That's it next week. He might get a lot more. We just don't know yet. Uh, I,
Starting point is 00:08:55 okay. I'm going to move on here. Cause the priorities are Ken Walker, you know, Benjamin, Jacoby Myers, Gino Smith, and we'll get a lot more names,
Starting point is 00:09:03 but, um, Taysom Hill's got to be up there now. Oh, Taysom Hill. Yeah, we've got to talk about Taysom Hill. He's tight end eligible. He's not a tight end, but he's – I mean, I went through all the numbers on Beyond the Box scores,
Starting point is 00:09:15 so just listen to that if you want to hear. He's basically been the most efficient runner in football. He's up there. But the one thing I love about him – Yeah, but he's legit. I mean, he's got a great nose for the end zone. He's got 13,
Starting point is 00:09:30 13 carries inside the five yard line over the last three seasons. And Taysom Hill has scored on nine of them. And he's just really good at that. You know, defenses will adjust as Dennis Allen even said, but they're going to get creative with him as well. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:44 you can't look at what he did this past week and say, okay, this is what I'm getting. That's just insane. But you can't look at the first two games where he scored touchdowns and say, this is what I'm getting. You know, maybe not even the first game, but you're looking at three to five carries.
Starting point is 00:09:57 You're looking at the chance to score because he's so efficient in how they use him. And so if he scores, you're getting maybe six to eight fantasy points, most likely in any format because he doesn't catch bad. He won't catch on the season. So six to eight fantasy points, that's a touchdown or bust tight end. That's just what you have to expect. Yeah. Would you rather have Gerald Everett or would you drop Gerald Everett for Taysom Hill? In non-PPR, I would absolutely consider it because when Keenan Allen comes back,
Starting point is 00:10:24 Gerald Everett's role is going to be slightly reduced if not completely reduced you know so yes um and I think it's not a bad idea to consider while these guys are struggling to even start Taysom Hill over maybe not this week because I think George Kittle goes off but the way Kittle has struggled the way Pitts has struggled you know these guys that have been just largely frustrating that that are not finding the end zone, you know, and so you're getting three for 40, four for 50. That touchdown is better in non-PPR. So, you know, he's got Taysom Hill, as we've seen, you know, two touchdown potential.
Starting point is 00:10:55 But again, if he doesn't score, you're talking about, you know, maybe three carries for two yards. And would you drop TJ Hawkinson going into his bye week to pick up Taysom Hill, or to pick up Evan Ingram, who has a great matchup this week and is playing well? Something like that. Do you think TJ Hawkinson is droppable going into the bye?
Starting point is 00:11:14 If he's your worst bench player and you need a starting tight end, he probably wouldn't even be a bench player in that case. He'd be in your tight end slot, and you just need to get a tight end, and you'd love everybody on your bench. You could do it. I wouldn't love it.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I wouldn't recommend it. I would try and find either a trading partner to get space on your bench so you could pick up one of those tight ends or just cut somebody else off your bench. I want to ask you guys. I have to leave in 15 minutes, so I want to ask you this before I leave. I want to pour a little cold water on Ken Walker. And I think, of course, he's the most important priority and I would spend almost all my fab on him, but Rashad Penny had one game
Starting point is 00:11:53 out of four as a top 30 running back in any format. They have run the second fewest plays in football. The only team that's run fewer plays is the Bears. You know, is he, could he be fool's guy? Obviously he could be, but what do you think about that? You know, Penny's only had one good game and it was against the Lions. Walker had a great game because he had the 69 yard touchdown run at New Orleans, but it hasn't really been a great offense,
Starting point is 00:12:20 except the passing game has been incredibly efficient. It hasn't been a great offense for the running back because they just don't run enough plays, and Rashad Penny just didn't get enough carries. And it's not like Walker was a huge factor in that. So I just want to throw that out there. I'll let you start, Dave. One top 30 finish for Rashad Penny this year,
Starting point is 00:12:36 and it was RB3, at least a non-PPR, in Week 4, but that was the Lions. So what do you think about Walker? Are we kind of walking into a trap here? Get it? Walking into a trap. Ah, very good. Unintentional. The biggest negative I see on Kenneth Walker is that he still
Starting point is 00:12:52 runs with hesitation. He's still not sure of everywhere he's supposed to go. You did not see that on his touchdown run last week. In fact, that run was like a shining example of what he did at Michigan State. Like clearly great vision, great cutback skills, second gear when he's in the open field to have
Starting point is 00:13:13 breakaway runs. And I think he, I thought that that play kind of got him a little bit looser. And then he talked like that after the game, just to kind of squash your point about the Seahawks, as a team, they rank first in rush EPA. They rank first in rush yards per carry, those big runs that both Penny had against the Lions and that Walker had against the Saints. That's a huge reason why. They're second in yards before contact per rush.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I love that stat. That tells me that the offensive line is trying to get them in some space. They're getting a little bit of push from that line. They're fifth in yards after contact per rush. They're fifth in 12-plus yard runs. Now, they play the Lions, so a lot of that does mean that they have good numbers because of that game.
Starting point is 00:13:58 But their schedule is really good moving forward, and I think that Ken Walker has the opportunity, and we've talked about it before. Opportunity matters the most when it comes to fantasy football, he's going to see the majority of work. He won't play passing downs, but he's going to see the majority of work at the goal line first and second
Starting point is 00:14:16 down. And he's got breakaway speed. And he, I think he's going to get more comfortable as the season rolls along. Okay. Yeah. Unless you're dying to get in there, Jamie, I think we can leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:14:26 It was a pretty good explanation. No, I mean, your point is what my argument was for, you know, not necessarily saying Penny was a must-start guy going into the Saints game because, again, the majority of their production came against the Lions. The one thing that I will say is that this is a fantasy versus reality thing. Like you say he hasn't played. He didn't play well. I know you meant his fantasy production wasn't good. Penny looked really good.
Starting point is 00:14:50 No, it was just the lack of touches. He just wasn't producing aside from the Lions game. So I think that's kind of where you have to hope that Walker wins a little bit. That now maybe he goes from where Penny was kind of living in that 14 carry range, 14 touch range.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Three or four games, Penny had 14 touches. Maybe that goes to 17 with Homer not there. How much they used DJ Dallas, how much they used Tony Jones they just acquired. What happens when Homer comes back? There are a lot of things at play here with Walker, but it's just a clear path to opportunity for an offense that we thought was going to be a disaster, which obviously has not been the case.
Starting point is 00:15:23 All right. Fantasy Football Today in 5 is a great resource if you don't have a lot of time. Want to listen to a five-minute episode? Chris Towers hosts that. Please check out the Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast. How much fab are we spending? Spend all of it if you want on Ken Walker, but how about the other guys? Is there another guy out there that's worth 20% of your original budget?
Starting point is 00:15:46 And I know I'm just saying a lot, but I always go with original budget. I don't know how much money you have left in your, in your fab account. So I think original budget is more helpful for this purpose. But is there another guy that's worth 20% of your original budget out there, Jamie? There's only one.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Let's see if you can guess it. We have not said his name yet so far. Then I will not be able to guess it. I have no idea. Or I could try and guess it. We haven't said his name, and he wasn't a top three priority? No. But yet you'd spend 20% on your budget. Is he only rostered in like...
Starting point is 00:16:20 Or only available in 20% of leagues? 1% of leagues he's rostered. 1% of leagues? Don't say Darius Slayton. No, he's rostered in more in 20% of leagues? 1% of leagues he's rostered. 1% of leagues? Don't say Darius Slayton. No, he's rostered in more than 1% of leagues. I have no idea. It's format specific, but you should spend probably to get him because of the league, PJ Walker.
Starting point is 00:16:39 You're going to have to spend to get a quarterback and the two quarterbacks are super flexed. Very clever. I'll try to pass, but, well, it's only a few weeks. People are stuck. There's four quarterbacks on a bike. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Look, and you know what? I've got four quarterbacks in my two QB league, and I'm making, this is a great time if you're in a two QB or super flex league to make some trade offers right now. Get those guys who are on it, who have bi-weeks, who have injuries, a lot of quarterback injuries right now. Make some trade offers. This is why it's good to have
Starting point is 00:17:05 a quarterback depth if you can have it. I'd like to make the case for spending 20% of your fab on Taysom Hill. Yeah, go. He's good. He gets touchdown opportunities that makes him as good, if not better, than your typical touchdown or bust tight end. You might be tired of streaming
Starting point is 00:17:21 tight ends. I think he solves the problem. Certainly a non-ppr and i don't think his role is going to shrink he just had this huge game yesterday was against seattle i think the saints look at him as someone that they can win with i i bet he gets 10 touches a week it's not going to be catches but he's going to find some big plays pretty much every week he's not hey look at his track record you talked about how often he scores when he gets a carry inside the five. I would spend 20% of the fab on Taysom Hill if I was
Starting point is 00:17:49 struggling at tight end. Alright, how much for Mike Boone? How much for Mike Boone? 5-10% off. I don't even think you have to go to 10. And I talked about this off the air, but are you guys convinced? We probably saw more fab spent on him last week
Starting point is 00:18:05 than he will have spent on him this week because it was after the Javante injury. Are you convinced that he's going to have that job over Latavius Murray as the number two guy? It's going to be a week to week thing. No, but I would anticipate that. I mean, he's the one that's been on this team through the offseason program,
Starting point is 00:18:22 through everything that they've had to deal with. He's the one that they started to trust when Melvin Gordon was fumbling and after Devontae got hurt in that game two weeks ago. So I would anticipate Latavia is going to have some semblance of a role, but to take the other two guys off the field completely, no. Okay. How much fab for Jacoby Myers? He's a guy that you might go close to 20% for again we're talking about a guy's 57 roster and the majority of that's going to be ppr already so you know non and half ppr managers are they going to spend that much money on a guy that has a history of not finding the end zone you know so it could be a little bit fool's gold in those formats um again i'd
Starting point is 00:19:04 probably ballpark it around 15 to 20 tops so you know you just got to you know figure out what your receiving core is and if you need that type of guy because nine for 95 what he did in week two against pittsburgh feels like what's closer to a ceiling as opposed to seven for one eleven and one you know so again take it for what it's worth in non-ppr or half ppr formats he might be he might be the best fab value this week outside of ken walker though and i think you can get him for 15 even in ppr and he's i think he's a good bench receiver in non-ppr i wouldn't spend 15 and not probably more like five percent and none but i think he i think he's okay i think he's gonna stick as a as a critical part of the patriots offense because he's been that for the last few
Starting point is 00:19:43 years already well you also have Aguilar banged up. Kendrick Bourne's been an absent player for them this season for a guy that was productive in his moments last year. Devontae Parker's been so all over the place. Jonathan Smith is hurt. So there's a lot of moving parts here. Now you have the running back that's out. So if they're forced to throw a little bit more,
Starting point is 00:20:01 maybe that helps more. No one knows the severity with Damian Harris, do they? No. For however long he's out, Meyers should see us bumping targets. How much fab real quick for Alec Pierce, who's only 14% rostered? He's going to be another good value. I think it's going to take about 12% in PPR. Okay, I have some questions I want to ask you.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Just real quick, deep leagues here. So we already talked about it a little bit. The Colts running backs, Josh Kelly, Alec Pierce will throw in there, 14%. Darius Slayton's high on the priority list. He's barely rostered. He's also definitely a buyer beware kind of guy. Any other deep league targets? P.J. Walker walker of course in two
Starting point is 00:20:45 quarterback leagues baker mayfield's going to miss a little bit of time with an ankle injury um i have two tight ends for you three actually all right uh kate otten depending on how long cameron braid is out zach gentry for the steelers if pat fryman was going to miss any time he had six targets for a team that threw 50 times you know so could be looking a good opportunity especially with their run game struggling facing the bucksucs this week. And then Quinton Morris for the Bills, depending on the severity of Dawson Knox. Again, this is more deeper league, certainly tight end premium. But he had five targets in that game. And you know, could be somebody that for whatever it's worth, if the Bills decide to rest Dawson Knox because their buy is in week seven,
Starting point is 00:21:25 could give you some quality production based on how they used him this past week. I think there's another receiver that makes sense for that, and that's Khalil Shakir. Yeah. Look, you're going to want players from the Bills and the Chiefs for their game, the rematch of their playoff game last year. McKenzie's out there in half of our leagues. I don't know if you necessarily need to prioritize picking him up,
Starting point is 00:21:47 because if he's out this week, obviously no one's going to want him. He can sit on the waiver wire. You pick him up after the bye. But Shakir had a touchdown last week. He had five targets. He should probably see more targets this coming game. He's like a one-week special. He might be more than that, though.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Okay, that's fair, because let's say he goes out and he's the reason why the bills beat the chiefs they go into their bi-week and they go we can win with this guy isaiah's been great but let's put shakir out there a little bit more and couldn't he also be because he can play in the slot or wide couldn't he also be the insurance policy for digiggs and for Gabe Davis? We saw Davis already missed time once this year. He wouldn't be a bad bench receiver to have. So it's just going to be a little bit frustrating to carry him through his buy, especially if he doesn't do anything in week six. But I think he's a six percenter. I think you could spend six percent of your fab, get him, use him for week six as a flex, enjoy it, and then see what happens after that.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Okay, and I was watching that game last night, and there were the pass interference calls, which I hate that rule, by the way, rewarding quarterbacks for underthrown balls. And there were the deep passes that were actually completed to Devontae Adams, and I just thought, ooh, Gabe Davis could have a big game in week six. Devontae Adams is basically Gabe Davis, right? Three for 178. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Okay, so there's one more receiver that we didn't get to, and I think he's available in almost three quarters of our leagues. It's Rondale Moore. Yeah, he went from playing almost all out wide in week four to playing almost entirely in the slot.
Starting point is 00:23:24 He was back having a low A dot. I saw eight targets, 13.8 from playing almost all out wide in week four to playing almost entirely in the slot with Greg Dorch not playing. Yeah, he was back having a low A dot. Yeah. Saw eight targets, 13.8 PPR points last week. The only problem is it could just be a one-week wonder for him because Hopkins is back next week. Right. And I'll say, you know, you should just look.
Starting point is 00:23:38 It's probably not going to happen, but just look on your waiver wire for Hopkins and Dak Prescott. There is a chance they are out there and they're not in the projections, so you might not see them. So just look, search your leagues for Hopkins and Dak and see, maybe you'll get lucky there. You could also try trading for them.
Starting point is 00:23:55 This is the time. If you didn't draft them, this is the reason why, is to try and trade for them right now. Well, you also referenced dropping Hawkinson. You're going to find some people that drop players on a buy because they're stuck, and you might benefit as a result of it. So keep an eye on those type of players that have been, you know, good at times, certainly historically good.
Starting point is 00:24:14 They may be frustrating right now. Dalton Schultz might get dropped. TJ Hawkinson might get dropped. Schultz is definitely going to get dropped. I'm not going to drop Schultz. You might be able to pass these guys for better days ahead. I'm much more optimistic for Schultz for better days ahead I really I'm much more optimistic for Schultz
Starting point is 00:24:26 when Dak gets back so I'm going to try not to keep not to drop Dalton Schultz it's getting harder I got three questions we don't know
Starting point is 00:24:34 how healthy he is he came back I'm pretty sure he came back for one play in the fourth quarter that's it yeah but they were blowing out the brand
Starting point is 00:24:40 at that point alright so I have three questions I want to ask you before I leave and you can give me quick answers is Jared Goff more of a drop or a hold going into his buy drop drop is josh reynolds more of an ad or a drop going into his buy drop uh he's more of a drop do you think christian mcafree or dj moore get traded
Starting point is 00:24:59 there are some rumors and would you make any trades with that in mind? I don't think Moore is getting traded. He just got paid. McCaffrey just got paid, too. So any team that takes them on, the Panthers would have to eat a ton of dough on them. Their players. But Moore, for sure, is a player that the Panthers can keep and build around in the coming years. McCaffrey could get traded.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I don't know the exact details of the contract, but I know that he's not in a coming years. McCaffrey could get traded. I don't know the exact details of the contract, but I know that he's not in a contract here. Robbie Anderson's the one that I think gets traded because he is in a contract here. There's a few veterans that they have that could be on the move. He's the only one that really matters for fantasy. Okay, then I'm going to give some quick injury notes,
Starting point is 00:25:40 then we're going to take a break, and Jamie and Dave will take it out after that, and you can just go position by position. We'll do what? You'll take it after that. You'll take the show. You'll take the baton. Alright, so the Carolina fired Matt Rule and their defensive coordinator Phil Snow. Baker Mayfield's out a couple of weeks
Starting point is 00:25:56 with a high ankle sprain. P.J. Walker was not very good in his one start last year, but he did have two touchdowns taken away from him by Cam Newton, but he only threw for like 166 yards or something. Russell Wilson's playing with this lat injury. So you might want another option there. We know the Dolphins quarterback situation is very murky.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Darren Waller left with a hamstring injury. We were just talking about, we don't know Damian Harris's status, but we do know that Ty Montgomery is eligible to come off IR this week, but it's probably not going to happen. So that kind of alluded to that Monday. Right. So, you know, it's setting up right now as a good week for Mondre Stevenson. Look at Pierre Strong, too.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Deeper leagues. Pierre Strong, I'm sure that's a guy you're going to get to. Rashad Penny out for the year. James Conner, they're optimistic about him playing this week. I just want to mention, I mentioned this on yesterday's show, Najee Harris has basically lost his third down roll each of the last two weeks to Jalen Warren. Warren looks better. He fits into that offense better than Harris. We're going to keep an eye on Tyreek Hill. It seems like they're sounding optimistic about him with the foot injury.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Chris Olave in the concussion protocol. Tee Higgins, of course, with the ankle. Nelson Aguilar, hamstring. Dalton Schultz, knee. Pat Fryer the concussion protocol. Tee Higgins, of course, with the ankle. Nelson Aguilar, hamstring. Dalton Schultz, knee. Pat Fryer, concussion. Bad news for the 49ers as they get ready to face the Falcons. Emmanuel Mosley's out for the year, starting cornerback for them, probably their best cornerback. And Nick Bosa, don't know his status yet, but he's got a groin injury.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I don't think it's good. And Jimmy Ward, their safety also hurt himself. If there's ever a team to play though, don't worry about the Falcons throwing the ball. Yeah, right. They really shouldn't be able to run the ball this week though. And Drake London's on the injury report too. And then
Starting point is 00:27:35 there's some other stuff. Marcus Williams for the Ravens. They're starting safety. He's out for a while with a wrist injury. And that's more or less it. Alright, I'm going to get out of here. When we come back, Dave and Jamie, your instructions are recap Monday night football. Thrilling game. Very fun stuff.
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Starting point is 00:28:04 And we'll be right back. All right. Here we go. Let's go, Dave. You ready? So let be right back. All right, here we go. Let's go, Dave. You ready? So let's start with Kansas City, 30, Las Vegas, 29. I'm not even gonna look at Adam's notes. It was a fun game. What do you think of the decision to go for the two point conversion there by Josh McGill?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Oh, so stupid. There was so maybe if there's 10 seconds left in the game, you do that to try and just end it because their defense was getting trounced, but there was four minutes left in the game. Kick the extra point. I would have done the same thing, but that you said, not gone for the two-point conversion, but imagine if they had gotten it, if Josh Jacobs didn't get stuck there to see what would have happened. And look, give the
Starting point is 00:28:35 Raiders credit. They did stop the Chiefs coming back and gave themselves an opportunity, but unfortunately, they did not convert to make it a win for them, and they are stuck now at one of four. There is a situation you have to keep an eye on there with Devante Adams. He pushed a member of the ground screw, I guess, or somebody near him walking off the field. And the NFL network says that there could be a suspension coming depending
Starting point is 00:28:58 on what the review is, but he's already apologized for it. So hopefully he's not suspended. Just probably a lapse of judgment at the time. So just something to keep an eye on there if you are a Devontae Adams fantasy manager. Clearly, you know what you're doing with the Chiefs guys. You're starting Travis Kelsey
Starting point is 00:29:12 who scored four touchdowns. You're starting Patrick Mahomes who threw those four touchdowns. Everybody else does a little bit, I think, in some sort of murky gray area, including Clyde Edwards-Hilaire who had his first real disappointing game because he didn't score a touchdown. And Jarrett McKinnon actually looked better than him.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Did we miss the sell-high window on Clyde, or is he still going to be a quality fantasy running back moving forward? What do you think about him against Buffalo this week? I think you're still going to start him. If this were week one and this happened, everybody would be like, well, wasted my pick on Clyde Edwards-Hilaire, and they'd probably sit him in week two. But we've seen enough of Clyde where yeah he's
Starting point is 00:29:45 touched on dependent but he almost scored in this game and if he had maybe you wouldn't feel so bad about it you've got a high scoring game coming up in week number six I would keep Clyde in your lineups if you're trying to trade him though you're not going to get nearly as much as you could have last week yep last week was probably the window to get maximum value for him after he had the 19 carries against the Bucs another disappointing game for Juju Smith-Huster. Is it time to drop Juju? Yes, you can drop him. And the thing that I talked about all year, it's really coming true. He struggles against man coverage. There were two end zone targets that he had where he was bottled up. And I think that you are going to see more of MVS and maybe even more of Mecole
Starting point is 00:30:24 Hardman. I have what's me. Cole Hardman's roster percentage. Jamie, maybe you have it as well. I think it's like 17% or something like that. I wouldn't mind speculating on him because he, he's the guy that they've got,
Starting point is 00:30:34 who's closest to Tyreek. And MVS was separating from guys when the Raiders played man coverage, but whole Hardman was doing it a little bit better and a little bit faster. I think that he's somebody that's worth stashing at some point the chiefs are going to have to look at smith schuster and say dude you're you're not as explosive enough if we needed a short area target we've got one in kelsey the other receivers could get involved hardman and mvs in short area and sky more works well in short area. So I'm,
Starting point is 00:31:05 I'm nervous for Juju. I would try and trade him for whatever you could first before you have to drop them, but he's absolutely droppable. The only thing with MVS is, is like, which is the guy we're getting? Cause it's been basically coverage dictates it.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Uh, yeah, but I mean, even the, the opportunities he's gotten, you know, three games now with seven plus targets last week or last night being the most with eight, six for 90 is his best stat line on the season yet to score a touchdown. We know there's been a lot of missed opportunities down the field.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And so is last night a little bit more fool's gold or is that going to be kind of what the norm is? I think that's a question you have to ask yourself. So I don't know if he's necessarily somebody you have to run out and get, but, you know, might be somebody that if you get through, you know, your third or fourth priority at the wide receiver position, you might consider picking up. But there are just a lot of guys out there that I think are in better situations than ABF, so not necessarily a must-roster type of guy. As for CEH, I think McKinnon is somebody that you should keep with CEH, and McKinnon is a stash candidate too. Yeah, only 18% rostered.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I think the other thing would be, you know, clearly last week was a Pacheco game, you know, so if they feel like they want to run the ball, it seems as if Isaiah Pacheco is going to get a bigger opportunity if they decide, you know what, this is going to be a game we're going to run. Probably going to use more McKinnon and Clyde Edwards there. Guess what? They're probably not going to try and run next week against Buffalo,
Starting point is 00:32:19 so I expect to see McKinnon and Clyde a little bit more active than Pacheco. In terms of the Raiders, are you holding Derek Carr through his bye week? He's been 23, 22, 21 fantasy points as his high, two games under 20 fantasy points. Last night was slightly disappointing, knowing that Devontae Adams played the way that he did. Now clearly losing Waller probably impacted some of the things that they tried to do. And Josh Jacobs has been fantastic. And so is Carr a must must hold guy through his bye i would try and do it i think that he's going to be a usable fantasy quarterback for the rest of
Starting point is 00:32:50 the season i thought he played well despite the fact that the chiefs were pressuring him it seemed like every single third down play he was pressured i think that car has potential to help people so yes i would try and hang on to him i I would agree. The one guy I think you can move on from is Hunter Renfro. You know, disappointing stat line. He's now got three games where he's played the majority of the snaps, you know, despite leaving with a concussion after week two and 10 PPR points has been as high so far. No touchdowns. It's just, you know, the way that they're spreading the ball around clearly with Adams being the focal point Waller not playing, you know, last night didn't help Renfro.
Starting point is 00:33:26 So not a guy you have to hold during his bye week, certainly in non-PPRs. Were you disappointed in his numbers against Kansas City because Waller didn't play? Yes, I'm saying. That's why he's not somebody you need to hold on to. I wonder what happens in their next game. They're going to go into their bye.
Starting point is 00:33:43 What if Waller's out for the year? The hamstring injury? What if he tore it? He didn't come back in. I hope it's not the case, but if that's the case, then I think Renfro, I think this is the only way Renfro has value. I would guess for the, look, it's going to be a small percentage of people that drop Renfro.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I don't think he's going to be 30% dropped. It's probably going to be 10% to 15% of leagues that drop Renfro, and most of those will be non PPR. Um, in those formats, I think you're fine. And PPR, if you have the ability to hold him, I have him in one league. It's a 14 team league. I'm not dropping him in that format, but in the 12 team league, if there's, you know, the ability to pick up Darius Layton or Alec Pierce or, or, you know, better, um, then
Starting point is 00:34:20 I would, I would most likely consider it for Renfro going into his bi-week because you have the, the thing about when these guys go into bye weeks that aren't coming off big games, you can pick them up toward the end of this week if your situation changes on your roster or even next week because they're not playing for another two weeks. They're not in the forefront of people's mind. Yeah, I don't know if there's anything else we need to cover for that game.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Adams was great. Again, just keep an eye on the suspension. All right, let's go through the positions at the waiver wire. We kind of gave you a little example of some of the guys that we're looking at here so the quarterbacks the four that are on a buy this week Derek Carr Ryan Tannehill Jared Goff and Davis Mills the ones that probably matter the most have been Carr and Goff we told you that you can drop Goff for Carr if you can hold him hold him but the injuries that we're keeping on still Dak Prescott Tua Jameis Winston Mack Mac Jones, Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz.
Starting point is 00:35:05 There are quite a few. Wentz should be fine. He just popped up on the injury report on Monday because the game is on Thursday. Tua, holding or dropping at this point? He's droppable. I would agree. And Ryan Tannehill, you could drop on his bye week unless it's a two-quarterback or super flex league.
Starting point is 00:35:22 All right, let's get into the waiver wire options here. And you obviously wouldn't drop Tua in a two-quarter super flex league all right let's get into the waiver wire option sure and you obviously wouldn't drop two on a two quarterback league either well yeah i mean any of these guys golf anyone that we've said you're holding in a two quarterback or super flexing uh geno smith is the priority quarterback so how much fat would you be spending on geno smith i said 20 earlier that was aggressive i bet you can get them for around 14 i think that remember not everybody's chasing quarterbacks in your one quarterback redraft leagues and in keeper league, same thing. But I do think you need to spend something to get him. The best guy from a statistical standpoint on a buy is Jared Goff.
Starting point is 00:35:56 The best guy from a name standpoint coming into the season is Derek Carr. So those are two starters that might have to be replaced. So yes, Gino Smith could be a priority for those fantasy managers, but I think people have been picking him up already. He's at 55% rostered. So that kind of tells you where the mindset is that the guy I have next is Carson Wentz. You kind of have a sample size of what he is. Three good matchups.
Starting point is 00:36:14 He's been 25 or more fantasy points to disappointing matchups against Dallas and Philadelphia or tough matchups going in eight fantasy points in both those games. How do you think he'll do against Chicago on Thursday night? I think it's an easy matchup. I think he should be able to put up good numbers the one thing that i'm worried about is that the commanders get their run game going a little bit more because chicago's run defense isn't very good either and maybe that hurts the upside of carson wentz but if you're just streaming quarterbacks and you don't want to spend 14
Starting point is 00:36:42 on geno smith or maybe you just need a bi-week replacement for, you know, maybe Derek Carr is your guy and you just love Derek Carr, whatever. Wentz should be able to be snagged for like 3%, 4% of your fab. And that's a good plan B if you want to go cheap on Gino and you say, okay, great. If I can get Gino for 5% of my budget, that's cool. And if not, you just settle for Carson Wentz and use Wentz this week against the Bears. Some other streaming options that you could be looking at Jimmy Garoppolo, very good matchup against Atlanta. They've struggled against quarterbacks, at least 22 or more fantasy points allowed to five, four or five quarterbacks this season. Uh, Justin Fields, Dave, I thought it was starting to look a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Let him throw a little bit more 21 or more pass attempts in the last two games. That's clearly something that matters. Not in the 30 attempt range yet, which we like to see for most quarterbacks, but he's run for at least 47 yards in three games in a row. He gets this Washington defense on Thursday night as well. We know that defense has been bad. Any interest in Fields or Garoppolo for this week? I like
Starting point is 00:37:37 Garoppolo better, but it's just by a smidge. This piles onto the argument to not spend a lot on Geno if you're streaming, you could put in 5% on Gino, 4% on Wentz, 1% on Garoppolo, 1% on Justin Fields. You'll get a quarterback. And clearly there's more upside with Gino rest of season. That's why you spend more for Gino.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Right. But you know, again, if you, as, as you alluded to, which I think is the right way to phrase it, if you're just streaming, you don't have to break the bank on Gino. If you have, you know, the quarterback that you like, or just by chance, you know, again, as you alluded to, which I think is the right way to phrase it, if you're just streaming, you don't have to break the bank on Geno if you have, you know, the quarterback that you like. Or just by chance, you know, the matchup happens to be bad for your respective starter. But I think if you're trying not just to replace the bye week guys, trying to replace Matthew Stafford, trying to replace Aaron Rodgers for higher ceiling type of guys. I don't know if rest of season Geno is better than these guys. We'll have to wait and see, you know, teams start to figure them out. But in terms of where they are right now,
Starting point is 00:38:26 you clearly feel a little bit more comfortable, at least you should, with what Geno's given you, especially heading into week six against Arizona. And P.J. Walker, we mentioned as a two-quarterback. There are some two-quarterback super flex guys that could be available, you know, mostly shallower leagues. P.J. Walker might have the most longstanding opportunity because Teddy's going to eventually get replaced by Tua. Dalton's probably going to eventually get replaced by tua uh dalton's probably gonna eventually get replaced by james winston but
Starting point is 00:38:48 we'll see how that one goes um cooper rush is clearly gonna get replaced by uh dac prescott when he's healthy and i would assume that mac jones is gonna get back on the field when he's healthy ahead of bailey zappy but there are some good streaming options in two quarterback and super flex leagues but we could see pj walker maybe for a couple weeks until sam donald's ready because of the news that baker maple is going to miss some time so just keep that in mind when you're spending your fab on pj walker in those type of formats and walker out of skylar thompson and skylar thompson too it's another good call right walker first right uh i would take walker just because uh the news that came out monday that while tua
Starting point is 00:39:21 is not doing football things yet, according to Mike McDaniel, it sounds like Teddy cleared all the concussion protocols after Sunday. And so trending in the right, he's not out of the concussion protocol, but I'm sorry, he passed all the concussion tests. I don't want to use the protocol word. He passed the concussion tests. He has not cleared the protocol yet. Knowing what the protocol is now and how things have changed,
Starting point is 00:39:43 he may not be cleared to go by Sunday, but he is trending in the right direction. T what still is kind of in this gray area, unfortunately. So my guess is we see Teddy in week six, but yes, Skylar Thompson should be on your radar. If you need a desperation to QB or super flex type of option for this week at the running back position, the big names that are often abide, Derek Henry, Josh Jacobs, Damian Pierce, and Jamal Williams and Deandre Swift. We hope to get Swift back after the bye. That was the news. So keep that in mind. The injuries, there are a lot of them at the running back position.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Taylor, we're hoping to play. James Conner, we're hoping to play. We don't know the status of Damian Harris yet. Naeem Hines, clearly something you want to keep an eye on as well. So just keep an eye on the injury report there. The guys that we typically talk about in the check to see if available that are around 80% rostered or so, 85% or less, Bryan Robinson, Alexander Madison, Raheem Mostert,
Starting point is 00:40:30 those would be the three highlights. You've got Michael Carter and Rashad White as well. And then clearly Ken Walker is the one that everybody's chasing. So, Dave, rest of season, Ken Walker, Raheem Mostert, or Bryan Robinson? Who would you rather have? Walker. And then, oh i i think i want to say robinson next i love what i'm seeing from raheem mostert loving the usage loving the
Starting point is 00:40:52 production you know what the deal is with him he's 30 plus years old and he gets hurt pretty easily and i it's it's almost like it's like my my heart wants to take brian robinson but i know it's the washington commanders and i know he won't be alone in that backfield so let's use my heart wants to take Bryan Robinson, but I know it's the Washington Commanders, and I know he won't be alone in that backfield. So let's use my brain. I'll take it back. Let's put Walker one, Mostert two, Robinson three. If you were to tell me right now Mostert stays healthy rest of season, I would take him first.
Starting point is 00:41:18 But I agree with you, you know, based on the injury track record, knowing right now what Chase Edmonds is getting, you know, benched for Myles Gaskin and where that backfield's at. But yeah, it's too hard to say he's going to stay healthy. So I would go Walker one, Mostert two, Robinson three. And you could start Raheem Mostert this week, which should be a good matchup for them. Taking on the Vikings. Chase Edmonds is droppable.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Chase Edmonds is, well, as we get to the drop candidates, there we go. So the guys that I gave for this list are Antonio Gibson. That's probably more 10-team leagues than 12-team leagues, but you've seen his playing time go from 64% to 26% in Week 5 in terms of his snap share. So not very good for him with Brian Robinson back. The only thing that could change for Gibson in my mind, Dave, would be as if they push McKissick off the field
Starting point is 00:42:04 and give Gibson those pass-catching opportunities like we saw in the game McKissick missed in the preseason, the one that everybody got so excited about Robinson. Remember after Gibson had the fumble and they were putting him on kickoff returns, and then Gibson played in that pass-catching role. And we saw it in week one. He was great in their game against – why am I blanking? Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:42:23 But if McKissick continues in this role gibson's kind of in no man's land so it's hard to say you're gonna have to roster him certainly in ten team league there's there's another way what if he gets traded uh sure yeah but you can't bank on that now of course not but i would hate to be the guy that cuts antonio gibson and then i would wait through like it would make sense if he gets traded the Tuesday after their game on Thursday if Brian Robinson has a good game. So just keep that in the back of your mind. But where does he go that he has immediate path to success?
Starting point is 00:42:52 How many injured running backs did you name? I mean, the ones that are out for the season. I mean, I don't know. I'd have to think about it a little bit. Would you rather have Antonio Gibson? No, I'd rather have Walker. And he doesn't fit into Seattle at all anyway. But what I'm saying is these are the guys that are losing players.
Starting point is 00:43:11 You know, Denver, are they making a move to go get him after they – I don't think they need a Gordon Rock for him. And it would be like a sixth-round pick or something. Well, I mean, nobody's going to buy anything for Antonio Gibson. Of course not. Could the Dolphins do it? Knowing how thin they are at running back. Do they feel that they're thin? Oh, maybe they don't.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Because, I mean, they've been running with these guys all week. Alright, so there's a chance. Alright, fine. Last team. And I suggested this at the beginning of the year. Arizona. They probably could, but again, I think it would have to be a Connor rest-of-season injury for them to make that type of move.
Starting point is 00:43:47 So it could be, I mean, you know, I don't know if, look, if, if he's the guy that you're not using on your roster that you can drop, he's droppable.
Starting point is 00:43:54 If you want to hold them and you have the ability to do so, then you do so. But at this point, I don't see a path to success for him in Washington. Chase Edmonds, you mentioned clearly it's, it's easy to move on from him. He's,
Starting point is 00:44:03 he's been touched down or bust to begin with. And now he's not even playing that much because of what Mostert is doing. And they seem to like Myles Gaskin in the same role, at least for now. And then I did put Latavius Murray as a drop candidate. You can stash him if you want to, but I don't necessarily expect him to take both the guys off the field. So carrying the third running back for the Broncos, I don't know that's something that you need to do. We talked about some of these guys, but let's get back to the waiver wire priority at the running back position. The way that I have it listed is Eno Benjamin 1, Deion Jackson 2, Mike Boone 3,
Starting point is 00:44:33 Josh Kelly 4, and then the two IR guys, Gus Edwards and Damien Williams, Pierre Strong bringing up the back of the list along with Jerick McKinnon. So clearly, Benjamin, we've said this. If there's the injury absence to both Connor and Darrell Williams it's a great matchup against Seattle he scored a touchdown last week for the Cardinals uh Dave again if he if as of now we're operating on no Connor no Williams how much value spending on you know Benjamin if we knew that for sure I'd spend the 20 on you know Benjamin it could just be a one-week situation though it could be but I need to win this week and I might need a running back badly enough and if that's the case i'm happy to spend
Starting point is 00:45:07 20 and there is some rest of season value for you know benjamin it's not going to be pretty it might be 10 ppr points max but it's something so that that's that's kind of where i'm coming at it from is that you don't spend 20 if unless you're just absolutely desperate i think that number should be north of 10 though and it's somebody that can potentially help you as a starter this week or at worst be a bench guy rest of season you can't get benjamin walker's gone and as of tuesday we don't know if jonathan taylor or nike will play, how much Fabby spending on Dion Jackson? 4%. What if he didn't run back though? What if he's desperate for running back?
Starting point is 00:45:51 Same situation. There are other running backs. You name them. That might have the same type of upside as Dion Jackson does. Jackson's probably my favorite. Once you get past Walker and, you know, Benjamin,
Starting point is 00:46:01 but I don't know if, if Jonathan Taylor plays, walker and you know benjamin but i i don't know if if jonathan taylor plays i've thrown four percent of my budget straight into the dump oh it's a gamble it's a total gamble sure so but yeah that's why i'm not wanting to gamble that much and if i miss on deon jackson boohoo there's still mike boone uh i don't think gus edwards and damian william Williams will necessarily help you in week six, but JD McKissick might. Phillip Lindsey might. All right. But now we're getting to the point of running backs that you'd spend like 2% on.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Rest of season, who would you rather have? Mike Boone, Josh Kelly, Gus Edwards, or Damian Williams? Mike Boone, Josh Kelly, Gus Edwards, or Damian Williamsiams i i kind of i think i'm gonna say boone i think williams is probably second gus is third and there's my list but i don't really love any of them i don't love boone i like boone as far as like all right he's gonna give me five points he's he's a warm body that i'm well i i use. Well, I think the thing you got to look at it, though, is if there's an injury in their respective backfields, who helps you the most?
Starting point is 00:47:09 So if Melvin Gordon gets hurt, or if Austin Eckler gets hurt, or if J.K. Dobbins gets hurt, there's clearly a potential league winner in all these guys. Of course. I don't know if Boone's a league winner. Well, he might be. If Melvin gets hurt, because they have Latavius. I would agree, but he might be.
Starting point is 00:47:27 No. If we're talking about strictly league winners and stash guys, then I would flip-flop the order a little bit. I'd probably put Kelly first. Because I just don't know what Gus Edwards is. We don't know what he is, but we know what he has been. And when he has been given this opportunity in this offense, he's five yards per carry.
Starting point is 00:47:46 He's a touchdown type of guy. You go back to the end of the 2020 season. He had three of four games or four or five games. I think it was with at least 10 or more PPR points. So, you know, touchdown dependent, but could be as this offense continues to evolve with their running back
Starting point is 00:48:03 situation. Cause I don't think we've seen exactly what they're capable of doing yet maybe last week was a good example of it with Dobbins scoring twice and getting four catches but could be a league winner I would probably take Kelly also just because we know what the Chargers are typically capable of doing but Edwards would be second for me and I don't think we should necessarily write off Damian Williams because I don't think the running backs in Atlanta I mean they had a tough matchup against Tampa Bay but I don't think they lit the world on fire. You know, Avery Williams scored a touchdown. That's as good as it got
Starting point is 00:48:28 for them. Algier didn't look so great. There's a veteran who could probably be pushed right into a primary role for the Falcons for however long Cordero Patterson's out. Right, but it could just be two more weeks after this week, though, and Williams has still yet to be activated off the
Starting point is 00:48:44 Sure, but if you've got the IR space, go for it. weeks after this week though and williams has still yet to be activated off the uh sure but if you've got the ir space go for it grab them yes for those two guys for sure you should absolutely be stashing those two players yeah as far as the wide receiver position guys the big name ones that are on a buy uh davante adams amara saint brown um brandon cooks robert woods for what it's worth hunter renfro for what it's worth josh reynolds for what it's worth but again we'll find out what the status is for adams if he is going to face a suspension following the off-field altercation as he was leaving the uh the field there at Arrowhead Stadium the injuries the ones that we're keeping an eye on Tyree Kill we hope he's going to go T Higgins is considered
Starting point is 00:49:16 day-to-day uh with his ankle problem Michael Thomas is expected to play in week six but Crystal Lave in the concussion protocol still waiting to find out about Keenan Allen Drake London's got a knee injury that we're keeping an eye on. John Harbaugh said that Rashad Bateman could play this week. John Dotson, however, said that his hamstring injury, there's no timetable for it. The Bucs have said because of the knee injury for Julio Jones, they're going to take it slow with him to make sure he's ready
Starting point is 00:49:38 for the end of the season. He's clearly somebody you can drop at this point. Isaiah McKenzie, Dave Lutzer, still in the concussion protocol. The Giants guy is still banged up with Wanda Robinson and Kedarious Tony. Christian Watts is dealing with a hamstring injury. There's just a lot of injuries at the wide receiver position. The guys that you should be looking at in the shallower leagues,
Starting point is 00:49:53 George Pickens, 80% rostered. Michael Gallup, 74% rostered. And Tyler Boyd's 70% rostered. Dave, are you surprised that Pickens is not at 100% as of now? Yes, he should be at 100%. I think he becomes a number three receiver. I mean, he's kind of a number three receiver now, but I think he becomes a reliable number three receiver before this season ends.
Starting point is 00:50:13 He's just been a great option right now with Kenny Pickens under center, four for 71 in their first half together two weeks ago against the Jets, and then he had a big game last week with Pickens throwing 50 times, and with the run game being what it is, you could probably expect a lot of pass attempts for Kenny Pickett moving forward. The drop candidates at wide receiver, Allen Robinson, Elijah Moore, Hunter Renfro, Jarvis Landry, Julio Jones. Do you see any of those guys worth rostering at this point?
Starting point is 00:50:37 Only Renfro if we find out that Waller's out for the year. All right, so we'll see what happens there with Renfro. I would drop him going into his bye week, again, mostly in non-PPR leagues. In PPR, if you want to hold him, I get that. All right, here's a priority list at wide receiver. Jacoby Myers, Alec Pierce, Darius Slayton. We'll start with those three guys.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Are any of them must-start receivers in two receiver leagues in week six? Myers in full PPR, I don't think I've got it ranked that way. I think he's a number three well he doesn't play so never mind so no meyers can't wait a minute the patriots do play why did i confuse him with somebody patriots are at cleveland my mind's racing right now okay i would start meyers as a number three probably would not want to start him as a number two receiver in his last two games 18 or more ppr, and that's with two different quarterbacks,
Starting point is 00:51:26 so it doesn't necessarily matter if it's Mac Jones or Bailey Zappi. We'll keep an eye on the situation there, but clearly he's doing a nice job so far and did score a touchdown, which is very rare for him, so something that could be worth noting moving forward. Alec Pierce coming off a great game last week against Denver, looking like the clear number two receiver in Indianapolis, and Darius Slayton coming off a strong performance in london who do you have more faith in moving forward pierce
Starting point is 00:51:48 because i like his offense better if you can find an offense that's worse than the colts uh look to new york i think slayton had a nice game we've seen him flash before i think pierce has some staying power in ppr leagues and you you know what? It's for Myers. I kind of poo-pooed him as a starter in two receiver leagues. He has a biweek replacement. Is he so bad? Definitely not. No, no. I think I have him in the top 30.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I'm sure you probably have the same thing. It's not necessarily a slam dunk that you have to bench somebody. But, I mean, at this point, when you're looking at guys like Adam Thielen, who's been two good games, three bad ones, Deontay Johnson and what his situation has been, trying to think of other receivers that are playing this week that are struggling. He's in that mix.
Starting point is 00:52:37 He's in that starting caliber mix, so it's not a bad situation. The only thing I'll disagree with you on – TJ Moore's been terrible forever. The only thing I'll disagree with you on on Slayton versus Pierce is he could be the number one receiver for the Giants. I mean, Wanda Robinson has yet to get healthy. Kadarius Tony's has another hamstring injury. There aren't reinforcements coming. And so if what we saw from Slayton is a sign of things to come, he probably will outproduce out Pierce over the course of the season. But I would rather have Pierce as well. I think there's a higher ceiling for him,
Starting point is 00:53:05 but it would not be surprising if they're close and the targets maybe start to favor Slayton a little bit more moving forward. So it's just something to keep an eye on there, but I do think he's worth adding based on what this giant receiving core looks like and what the rapport seems to be with Daniel Jones. After those three guys, I have Devin Duvarn, Devin Duvernay next.
Starting point is 00:53:24 We don't know the extent of Bateman's injury, but he could return this week. However, without him last week, I thought he played really well against the Bengals. And the fact that they gave him three carries, they were manufacturing touches for him. So this could not just be something that's a Bateman replacement. Remember, he did score three touchdowns in the first two weeks of the season, or first three weeks of the season. He got banged up in week two with a concussion. Could he have some staying power long term?
Starting point is 00:53:45 He could. He's a bench receiver. I would not put him next on this group, but he's really close to it. Good slot receiver form, and they use him on deep throws, and they use him in the red zone. So there's a lot of positives to Devin DuVernay, but he's maxed out at 12 PPR points over his past three games. Who would be next for you? Zay Jones. He's had at least eight targets in three of his past three games who would be next for you zay jones he's had at least eight
Starting point is 00:54:06 targets in three of his past four he's had at least 12 ppr points in two of his past three i think he's the number two receiver in jacksonville i still believe this jaguars offense is good i don't think they're going to necessarily elevate to being one of the second best offenses you know like they'll never reach the level of the Bills and the Chiefs. They might not reach the level of the Raiders, but they're going to be solid. They're better than the Colts offense. They're better than the Giants offense.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I'd put them ahead of them. And Zay Jones has been a factor. They've thrown him the ball quite a bit. It's not a bad call. You know, the one thing that Heath brought up on HQ yesterday, which I tend to agree with, is do we really have an idea of what this Jaguars team is? Because they lost a game in week one that they probably should have won.
Starting point is 00:54:54 They won two games that they probably should have lost based on just the opponent and how things were. I mean, remember the Colts were so banged up in that game. All right, we lost Dave. I don't know where he went, so we'll hope to get Dave back. They lost, you know, they beat the Colts without their receiving core health. And clearly they have the Colts number. So we'll see what happens in the rematch. They beat the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I think that was a huge surprise how that game unfolded going into Los Angeles. And then they lose the game in Philadelphia, which is probably the only one that you could say, okay, that's expected losing to the Eagles on the road, second half of back-to-back games, back-to-back road games. Then you get the situation with the game last week against the Texans, which was a surprise loss. So do we have an idea of what the Jaguars are? I guess we'll find out this week. But Zay Jones, not a bad receiver to add.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Some other receivers we're looking at here, Khalil Shakir, again coming off the three for 73 and a touchdown on five targets. We'll find out if Isaiah McKenzie clears the concussion protocol, but that's something to keep an eye on there. Josh Reynolds hopefully will be relevant when we come off the bye for the Lions, but we'll see what happens there with a healthy Amaro St. Brown. Who knows if maybe we get Jameson Williams back in the play here for the Lions at some point this season.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Could be after the bye week as well. Dave alluded to this earlier, Rondell Moore playing really well last week, but DeAndre Hopkins is expected to return in week seven, so it could just be a one-week situation for Moore, but a very good matchup against the Seahawks, so somebody you can use there. You have both Zay Jones and Marvin Jones, so I'm'm gonna keep an eye on there with those guys, with Marvin Jones leading the team targets this past week. Maybe he starts to get going a little bit, uh, for the Jaguars, but there's the receivers that you're looking at. Again, you can see the full
Starting point is 00:56:13 list on cbssports.com. The tight ends, the ones that are by the two big ones are Darren Waller and TJ Hawkinson. Uh, the injuries we're waiting to find out the status of Waller, Kyle Pitts dealing with a hamstring injury. Also Pat Frymouth in the concussion protocol. Dalton Schultz with a knee injury. Dawson Knox with a foot injury. Logan Thomas with a calf injury. And Cameron Bate in the concussion protocol. So you could have to find some replacement options at tight end.
Starting point is 00:56:34 The guy to check to see who's available is David Njoku, 83% rostered. David, David Njoku, a must-start tight end rest of season. He's there. He's made it. The volume has been too good. You can't ignore that. Dave, your audio is really off. I don't know what's happening. Really? Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:47 All right. So David Njoku coming off two back-to-back strong games, three really solid games, actually two with 14 or more PPR points. So hopefully David Njoku continues to have staying power again. We'll see what happens when Deshaun Watson comes back, but that's not until week 13. So keep an eye on that for the end of season. But
Starting point is 00:57:04 for right now, David Njoku should be rostered across the board. The drop candidates, Tyler Conklin, two miserable games with Zach Wilson, combined eight PPR points, had no PPR points against the Dolphins, and no fantasy points, excuse me, against the Dolphins in week number five. Dawson Knox always banged up, and then the Bills have a bye week in week seven. So somebody can move on from there. And Mike Gusecki clearly has been disappointing all season long. Only one game with more than four PPR points on the season.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Dave, the drop candidates I have are Tyler Conklin, Dawson Knox, and Mike, a second. You're holding any of those three. Oh man, you got to keep Mike a sickie for those two fantasy points per week.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Now drop them. Moving on from those guys. All right. The, the tight ends priority list. I have taste some hill one, but I don't know if I would rather start tasting Hill or Hayden Hurst in PPR this week, knowing that Hurst has been very good, especially if T. Higgins is out.
Starting point is 00:57:51 So if Higgins is out, Dave, I'm starting Hayden Hurst over Taysom Hill. Are you doing the same? Probably, because I thought he was like a check down guy on top of being someone that they designed plays for last week. That's what Burrell's been doing. Yeah, so I'm kind of intrigued by that and i think they've got some trust in hayden hearst he scored in each of his last two he's had at least 11 ppr points in each of his past two so in full ppr i think he's probably a little safer than tasemel the third guy on this list and this is where it starts to see a little bit of a drop off from the other two
Starting point is 00:58:22 at least based on what their production has been ev Evan Ingram, although he is coming off his best game of the season, season-high in targets, season-high in receiving yards, the last time he had a season-high in receptions, which was seven, was week two against the Colts. Can he do it again against Indianapolis? Oh, I think he might be able to. I like the volume that he got last week. We know that he's a good talent.
Starting point is 00:58:43 He just makes a bunch of bonehead mistakes along the way. If they have a hard time running the ball and they probably will against Indianapolis. Cause you know, the last time they played against Indianapolis, they were, this is the Jaguars we're talking about, right?
Starting point is 00:59:00 Right. Right. So I think that I look, think that evan ingram is probably a decent start probably makes the cut as a top 12 in full ppr he's just outside for me but he's right on the custer i have no problem if you want to call him a starting tight end for this week uh the more deep league options you got kate otten will disley zach gentry and quentin morris we talked about the uh one percent and four percent own guys otten's a four percent gentry morris at one percent gentry could get an opportunity without Pat Fryer.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Morris can get an opportunity without Doss Knox. Those two are more tight end premium league type of guys. Kate Otten, though, did have six catches for 43 yards, I believe, against the Falcons last week and could get another opportunity to have another significant target opportunity against the Steelers this week. So somebody to consider
Starting point is 00:59:46 as long as Cameron Brayton is out. And then Dave Will Disley is interesting because the Cardinals stink against tight ends. And he has three touchdowns in four games. Now, he did get outplayed by Noah Fant this week,
Starting point is 00:59:57 but he's still playing more than Fant. So I would give a slight nod to Disley over Fant. Do you agree? I do, but they're both touchdown or bust types of tight ends. And when you're measuring those guys versus somebody like Taysom Hill, it's easy to take Taysom Hill. Totally agree with that.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Disley, by comparison, has scored more touchdowns than Fant three, so I believe none. We'll see if Fant does find the end zone, but Disley's been a red zone option for Geno Smith. The DSD and kicker streamers, the DSD streamers I have are the Patriots, the Colts, and the Commanders. The kicker streamers are Graham Gonneau, Chase McLaughlin,
Starting point is 01:00:28 and Mason Crosby. Do you disagree with any of those? I like the Colts against Jacksonville, just because I'm not sure where that run game is for the Jaguars right now, and I think the Colts can slow them down. Chargers and Ravens are other two DSTs I like. All right, we'll see if the Chargers can actually stop anybody. It's been a miserable situation for them. It's Denver. It's Russell Wilson. I'm kind of banking on Russ making it. I totally agree. It's just a matter of I looked at it and I was like,
Starting point is 01:00:53 can they get the job done? They just couldn't do anything against Jacoby Brissett last week. Russell Wilson, that bad. Is he worse than Jacoby Brissett? In any event, there's your waiver wire options. You can read the full waiver wire story on CBSSports.com. We'll talk about a little bit more coming up on CBS Sports HQ at noon Eastern. For those of you that are watching us live on YouTube page, we appreciate you spending some time with us here on Tuesday morning. Good luck with your
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