Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Which Replacement RB is the Top Priority? (11/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Starting point is 00:01:33 This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays at his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.

Starting point is 00:01:54 What's going on, everybody? Welcome to Fantasy Football Today presented by BED MGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Adam Hazer here in studio with Dave Richard. Which camera am I looking at Dave? That one. Hey, what's going on? Jamie's at home.

Starting point is 00:02:10 What's up, Jamie? Hey boys. All right, so this is fun. Hey Dave. Boys, boys. Happy to. Happy Thanksgiving. I know, okay.

Starting point is 00:02:19 It's weird that like the fantasy regular season is almost over. Yeah. And Thanksgiving is here. We still got like a couple of weeks left. I know it's almost over though. We got weeks 13 and 14. Let's savor the weeks I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:02:30 So FFT open playoffs start next week. Yeah. I don't want to talk about that. Yeah. Me either. I had been eliminated. Jamie's still alive in the FFT. I lost the one seed. It was very disappointing. Cause now I got to worry about the week 14 mess.

Starting point is 00:02:43 Yep. Right. Are you locked into a playoff spot though? Yeah. I'm the two seat. But locked in like you go, no, there's another week before the playoffs. If you lose this week, you're still in. Okay. Okay. All right. Good. All right. Excellent. Congratulations, Jamie. All right. So, uh, it's a interesting waiver wire week. We do have the injury to JK Dobbins. And we sit here every week saying, oh it's a bad week for running backs on the waiver wire, but that's a good thing. Well, now we've got commanders running

Starting point is 00:03:07 backs injured. We've got JK Dobbins living with a knee injury last night. So Jamie, let's get right into it. Who are the top three waiver wire priorities? Yeah. Gus Edwards will be number one. Obviously if he gets a chance to start to good matchup against Atlanta, uh, we'll see what they do with the number two running back there. I hope it's Kamani Vidal and not a Hassanan Haskins but somebody's gonna have to catch him passes because they have been throwing to their running backs mostly JK Dobbins but Edwards will be number one. I guess we should go Jeremy McNichols number two just with the opportunity to be the starter for Washington if in fact he does get that

Starting point is 00:03:37 role with both Bryan Robinson jr. and Austin Echler banged up you know so a tough matchup against Tennessee they've been fantastic against running backs lately just looking at what they did to Joe Mixon and Aaron Jones in each of the and Austin Echler banged up, you know, so tough matchup against Tennessee. They've been fantastic against running backs lately. Just looking at what they did to Joe Mixon and Aaron Jones in each of the last two games. The best receiver, I mean, look, Keenan Allen, you got to go, you got to put him in the top three, too, you know, just based on what he has done and from a target standpoint in the two games with Thomas Brown calling plays and coming off a stellar game, plus with a good matchup against Detroit.

Starting point is 00:04:05 So I'll say those are the top three. All right. Gus Edwards, Jeremy McNichols and Keenan Allen. Yeah. What do you think, Dave? What are your top three? I don't like this week because there are too many question marks and too many what ifs, especially at running back.

Starting point is 00:04:19 McNichols would be my number one if we knew for sure that Eckler and Brian Robinson were out. Eckler had an ugly looking concussion for sure that Eckler and Brian Robinson were out. Eckler had an ugly looking concussion, so I think he's going to be out. Brian Robinson, we just don't know. We don't have an update, but let's just say if they're both out and there's certainly a chance they could both be out, Mcnickels would be my number one. And I'm not even sure if Gus would be my number two. He barely played in the second half last night against Baltimore.

Starting point is 00:04:44 He had negative eight rushing yards in the second half against Baltimore and it's Baltimore, but it's still like a bad spot. Played seven snaps. It was brutal. But he had all the carries, right? So like he didn't play barely ran the ball. They were trailing by two touchdowns. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:00 So I think they threw the ball 81% of the time in the second half. So if in some crazy world, they fall behind against Atlanta, which might happen, they just played on Monday night, their defense got beat up by Baltimore. Who knows how they're going to play flying across the country to sort of the East coast in Atlanta that they could struggle and then Justin Herbert's got to throw and they might throw anyway. And Gus Edwards really hasn't been great this season. I understand that he's going to get a good opportunity.

Starting point is 00:05:24 No question he's the goal line guy. But if Amir Abdullah is in the exact same spot that he's in last week where he played almost 90% of the snaps, I would rather pick up Abdullah before Gus Edwards, especially if it's a full PPR league. So I'm gonna rank it that way. McNichols won, Amir Abdullah too, Gus Edwards three, honorable mention Keenan Allen

Starting point is 00:05:42 because he absolutely should be picked up as number four. Yeah, dual is also interesting because he's 67% rostered. So he's kind of right on that the borderline of what we consider for the waiver wire column in the waiver wire episode. But if a dual is still available, he had eight carries for 28 yards, he had five catches for 37 yards and a touchdown against Denver. And of course he gets a team that's the best against running backs in Kansas City this week on the road on Black Friday. And not course he gets a team that's the best against running backs in Kansas City this week on the road on Black Friday. And not only is Kansas City great, you know, per carry 3.16 yards per carry to running backs for through us receiving yards per game allowed to running backs.

Starting point is 00:06:15 That's something Denver struggles with and he took advantage of it. Kansas City is great against pass catching running backs, but Abdullah played almost every single snap for the Raiders. Did I say something? I'm just happy you're here. Oh, yeah, this is rare, right? Yeah. This is snap for the Raiders. Did I say something? I'm just happy you're here. Oh, yeah. This is rare, right? This is rare for you to be back in Florida.

Starting point is 00:06:29 So back in the day when we did our podcast, there was never any remotes. There was never any live stream didn't exist, anything like that. We were all together in the same room all the time. It was fun. There were high jinks and like it's rare for it to happen these days because you live in New York. So I'm just happy that you're here. I wish Jamie was here too. And I, you know, I don't want any excuses from you today. You're coming to lunch.

Starting point is 00:06:49 We'll see. I know Dave's a little behind with work today. I made some bad decisions this morning. He's coming to lunch. We're going to lunch. I have to buy Jamie lunch. We're going to lunch. And Heath. Are you buying me lunch? Not Dave. Yes, Dave. Why Heath?

Starting point is 00:07:02 If you're buying me lunch, I'm coming. I don't want to buy everyone lunch. Maybe I'm not going to lunch. All right. The other thing about this week on the waiver wire is it's I think it's a good week for the shallow league guys because Cedric Tillman's right now in the concussion protocol. He's got the long time to recover. But Jerry, Judy is 79% rostered. I don't know how I feel about Judy this week. Jamie, how do you feel about him? Cause going up against Denver, revenge game,

Starting point is 00:07:27 but maybe Sertan, this covers Jerry Judy. And then you've got the Packers situation as well. Maybe Christian Watson's available, but I don't know how I feel about that game. It's gonna be like 20 degrees on Thanksgiving. So just a quick glance at the shallow league guys, Jamie, cause they're, they're a lot, oh, Michael Pittman. Michael Pittman is another one with Josh Downs, almost certainly out this week.

Starting point is 00:07:48 You know, who's if they're in your dream world, where like some of these guys are actually available in your leagues, who's the one to go get? John Smith, if everybody's available. Okay, one. But but are you concerned about just the first of all, this whole week could be snowy and super cold. We've got like bad weather coming in this week, beginning Wednesday night. Are you worried about that environment on Thursday,

Starting point is 00:08:13 Dolphins at the Packers? Yeah, I mean, that's a bad East Coast game. So, you know, we could see some snow there. Yeah, you know, too, I like what he said. This is about shattering narratives. I don't think it's gonna necessarily happen, but I like the fact that he's, you know to I like what he said. This is about shattering narratives I don't think it's gonna necessarily happen But I like the fact that he's you know embracing some of the situations that he's had to deal with but yeah You can't always just look one week, you know, sometimes it depends on what your record is You want to look long-term, you know, so if I could pick up Johnna Smith, I'm doing it if I could pick up Jerry

Starting point is 00:08:40 Judy I'm doing it It's it's not the greatest, you know set up for either those two guys that we're just talking about the ones that are most available Are at least available, but potentially available. You mentioned Abdullah. Clearly that's a good opportunity to try and get someone who's going to be involved in the passing game. It's better in PPR than non. I think Gus Edwards is much better than McNichols personally, just because you have two guys that aren't going to catch the ball at all. And one's getting Atlanta and one is getting Tennessee. So if those are the choices at running back that are available, to me, Edwards is a number ball at all. And one's getting Atlanta and one is getting Tennessee. So I mean,

Starting point is 00:09:05 if, if those are the choices that running back that are available to me, Edwards is a number two running back this week and McNichols is barely flex. Wow. Okay. Uh, I mean, if, if, if both Robinson and, and Echler are out, Jamie, don't you think McNichols is going to see a huge amount of volume? Whereas we've seen all year from the chargers that they use multiple running backs weekend and we got, they're going to Kamani Vidal off the inactive list and use him with Gus Edwards. Yeah. I mean, obviously the last time we saw the injury to Brian Robinson, I know he's not on the roster right now, but I would imagine he's going to be back on the roster

Starting point is 00:09:37 soon. It was Chris Rodriguez playing more than Jerry McNichols. So there's no guarantee it's McNichols getting all the work either. Okay. And the other factor with this week is that nobody's on a buy. So you might not need these guys, but we actually do have three potential starting running back situations with Washington, the chargers and the Raiders. That reminds me of something that everybody should do tonight before they go and start setting their waivers, set your lineup for week 14. Yeah. Just go ahead, go to your lineup page,

Starting point is 00:10:05 set it as if it's week 14. Obviously, you can always change your lineup or whatever, but if you go to your lineup and you see that you have all these holes for week 14, this is a pretty good week to start looking at players that you could find off the waiver wire to replace the players who are gonna be not there in week 14.

Starting point is 00:10:21 Ravens aren't playing in week 14. Commanders aren't playing in week 14. Commanders aren't playing in week 14. Broncos, Patriots aren't playing. There's two more teams. I've got a schedule. I can look and see who they are. But there's six teams on by in week 14. It's gonna be a pretty important week in fantasy.

Starting point is 00:10:34 You might wanna see what holes you have to fill and you fill them now because if you wait a week to fill them, I don't know if you're gonna be able to have as many plentiful options, especially running back. Not that there's any guarantee that McNichols Abdul, Gus Edwards will still be viable starters in week 14. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:49 All right. We got Baltimore, Denver, Denver, Houston, Indianapolis, New England, Washington on a buy in week 14. All right. Um, let's, uh, let's talk to you about Sunday bundle up on Sunday and join us at 11 30 AM Eastern at youtube.com slash fantasy on Sunday and join us at 11.30 a.m. Eastern at youtube.com slash fantasy football today. And we'll be setting your lineup.

Starting point is 00:11:09 You'll helping you set your lineup with a Q and A at 11.30 a.m. Eastern youtube.com slash fantasy football today. The coverage begins at 10 a.m. on HQ on Sunday morning with Jamie talking fantasy. And there's a lot of football content, just that three hour block. Just, I don't really have much of a schedule alert, but just one guy I wanted to point out for future matchups. at fantasy and there's a lot of football content, just that three hour block. I don't really have much of a schedule alert, but just one guy I wanted to point out for

Starting point is 00:11:28 future matchups, you're not going to use them this week because he's almost certainly not going to play. That's Jake Ferguson. Luke Schoonmaker gets the Giants this week who are second against tight ends. I'm not sure I buy it, but they are. But then after that, if Jake Ferguson's back from the concussion, Cincinnati, they're 31st, Carolina, they're 32nd,, Cincinnati, they're 31st, Carolina, they're 32nd, Tampa Bay, they're 28th. Those are his next three matchups. Jake Ferguson, 53% roster.

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Starting point is 00:13:26 and you think it's a player that's gonna help your team win this coming week, use most of what you have left unless you don't have that much left and then use it all, that's basically it. And then if you wanna save some of your fab for the playoffs, that makes sense. Then you probably shouldn't target anybody off the waiver wire this week who is going to be popular. Right? Like

Starting point is 00:13:45 if you're going to make the playoffs, what's the what's the point of spending any significant fab on guys that are one week replacements or two? Well, you know, I could tell you like if you had JK Dobbins, and you want to go after Gus Edwards just to lock up that duo, and you're 10 and two, then yeah, it makes sense to go and spend a lot of fab to try and lock up Gus Edwards if that's the route you want to go 10 and two, then yeah, it makes sense to go and spend a lot of fab to try and lock up Gus Edwards if that's the route you want to go. 10 and two, what are you, my driving instructor? You know, 10 and two. Thank you, Jamie. Okay, news and notes. So Tommy DeVito will be the starter

Starting point is 00:14:18 if he's healthy. And it seems like Brian Davis thinks he's going to be healthy. There are Thursday and Cooper Rush too. So those two guys, Cooper Rush and Davino. Wow, what a game. Yeah, I know. Like I said, I think I made the joke yesterday. People are gonna start eating dinner at four o'clock Eastern on Thanksgiving.

Starting point is 00:14:35 Gardner Minchew out for the season. Aiden O'Connell though, it looks like he's likely to play this week. He's eligible to return. Aiden O'Connell will get Cleveland this week. And they've actually been a pretty good matchup. Then they have a bye. Trevor Lawrence is going to practice, has a chance to play. Trevor Lawrence practiced

Starting point is 00:14:51 yesterday, has a chance to play coming off the buy against Texans and Texans just lost Jalen Petrie, one of their defensive backs. They are a mess. So Lawrence has actually been pretty solid lately and we'll keep our fingers crossed for Brock Purdy for that Sunday night game at Buffalo. He did some light throwing on Monday. So let's go get in there Brock Purdy. We ended up not ranking Brock Purdy. Heath made a pretty interesting point that the line has the 49ers, I think it's seven point underdogs, seven and a half point underdogs. And so and with a low team total. So I don't think the odds makers are expecting Brock Purdy at this point. Yeah, that's fair. And you know, there are some pretty good

Starting point is 00:15:29 quarterback replacement options. If you have pretty, we know about the running back injuries, Brian Robinson, Austin Eckler, JK Dobbins, David Montgomery, he's got this shoulder issue. It sounds like he's going to be okay. Yeah, lions did something really smart. They were winning the game big against Indianapolis. They knew that they were playing on Thursday They held Montgomery out of the game both he and offensive tackle Taylor Decker It looks like they're both gonna be good to go for Thursday's nice

Starting point is 00:15:52 I'm on Rossane Brown miss practice. We expect him to play Khalifa Raymond also has an injury Romeo does the Raymond when no one's starting Raymond. Yeah, that one's a serious one that might matter for their special teams Romeo Dobbs Concussion so he's probably not gonna play on Thursday. Josh Downs, probably not gonna play this week. Then they have a bye. Hopefully Josh Downs is back in week 15. Yeah, they have a week 14 bye. Cedric Tillman's still in the concussion protocol.

Starting point is 00:16:16 They're at Denver this week. Brandon Cooks has a chance to play this week for, I think it seems like he's going to play. But Jake Ferguson not going to play most likely against the Giants on Thursday. And Jat Sanders good news for him he's out of the hospital he's doing well he was actually having a pretty decent game against the Chiefs Jatavian Sanders he had I don't know 30 something yards in the second quarter and he gets Tampa Bay and they stink against tight ends if he's back this week and then let's see just for IDP purposes, CJ Mosley is optimistic that he'll be back at some point this season.

Starting point is 00:16:48 His replacement, who I have on my IDP team, whose name I can never remember. Sherwood. Thank you. Has been awesome. So you might get some more weeks with him. And then Roquan Smith's replacement, who you talked about. Malik Harrison. Malik Harrison. You talked about him on Sunday morning. He was really good. So

Starting point is 00:17:05 if Roquan Smith doesn't play, you have another week of, of, uh, keep an eye on what's happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Keep an eye on what's happening in Miami. Anthony Walker left with an injury, Minnesota, Ivan pace left with an injury. Those are two good linebackers. Walker was making a huge difference for that dolphins run defense over. I want to say like the last three games. He's almost certainly not going to play this week, but they have avoided long term injury there. Tyrell Dotson, who's a name that you brought up, Adam, he was cut by the Seahawks, picked

Starting point is 00:17:32 up by the Dolphins. He would be the one replacing Walker in Miami. I don't know if they'll be as good. I only know this because I had both those linebackers on my dynasty IDP team, which I barely won. I started them both. They both had zeros because they got hurt and I got very lucky to win. I got one more 42 with a Angeloni's injury in Detroit, Malcolm Rodriguez. He had eight tackles. That's a great one. Yes. Yes. Awesome. And then San Francisco, Drake Greenlaw has been designated to return from IR.

Starting point is 00:18:03 And Deamon, Deamon or Lenore, great cornerback for the 49ers, getting an MRI on his knee. Great, he's on my dynasty league team. All right, Jamie, let's get to some waiver wire names. Who are the top three priorities at quarterback? Top three priorities at quarterback are, get ready for these names, Derek Carr, Will Levis, and Trevor Lawrence.

Starting point is 00:18:33 Derek Carr. All right. So Carr's been, you know, got the MVS connection lately. He's got the Rams. Levis has Washington and Lawrence has Houston. Surprise Lawrence is a number one. Is it just because we don't know he's going to play? Right. So if you want to play the game of I could still get Carr, I could still get Lawrence. I'm sorry, I still get Levis You want to take Lawrence first then absolutely take Lawrence first with the hope that he's healthy But you know, it's a left shoulder injury. So that's the positive thing that if he does, you know, have any concerns It's not just throwing shoulder, but I don't think there's a guarantee he's gonna play yet So that's the one thing that's a little bit of a drawback Okay, and then you get so many quarterbacks who are in that, oh, it

Starting point is 00:19:07 might be available in your league range. Guys like Caleb Williams, Anthony Richardson, Russell Wilson, who's got a great matchup. Well, Cincinnati is an interesting matchup because they're good most weeks, but they play great against the run bad against the past. But if you look at how they've done against quarterbacks, it's been five quarterbacks who have destroyed them. And it's like Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson, Jaylen Hertz, Jayden Daniels, Jackson twice and Justin Herbert. Everyone else has struggled, but I will say, I mean, they seem like a good matchup.

Starting point is 00:19:34 So Russell Wilson, Richardson, cousins might be available. Right. Stafford and cousins in super shallow leagues might be there. You mentioned Caleb. He would be a good one. Do you like Caleb this week though against the Lions? They have not given up multiple touchdown passes this year. That's true. I would just say that he's going to have a lot of volume.

Starting point is 00:19:50 I don't think that the Bears are going to be able to run a lot. Just the way that this game is going to go. Their defense really hasn't looked good now for a couple of weeks and the Lions should be able to put up points. It'll force Caleb Williams to throw a lot more. I like Caleb Williams better than Russell Wilson this week. You like him better than Trevor Lawrence, Derek Carr, Will Levis? No, no, no, no, I would start those guys over Caleb. I do just something about Russ fills off right now. The thing about Caleb, right? I went back because I felt like

Starting point is 00:20:15 when we talked about it on Sunday, Anthony Richardson, he just played the Lions. Now, Kayla's playing the Lions. I felt like there were these missed opportunities. And I went back and I watched the throws from from Anthony Richardson. And I found more than 200 yards of missed opportunities on either bad throws or like very close plays like Ashton Doolin couldn't get his foot in bounds and that deep ball and Ogletree dropped the touchdown, 11 yard touchdown Detroit's defense.

Starting point is 00:20:41 It was not. Yeah. Yeah. Right. There was that play was like kind of miscommunication. There were so many big plays that they almost made the bad throw to Pierce. That could have been a huge play. So I don't know, like Detroit's been pretty good all year,

Starting point is 00:20:54 but they had a lot of wide open guys, which is I think encouraging for Richardson and maybe for Caleb Williams. Well, I would agree with that. And that kind of jives with the fact that, remember in the second half, he didn't have a very good completion rate at all. Richardson was under 30% completion rate,

Starting point is 00:21:09 but his off-target rate wasn't crazy. So that kind of plays into it that maybe just a lot of miscommunications and the dual and play, the drops and all that. Caleb Williams made a bunch of outstanding throws when you go back and watch the film. Some of them were really dangerous. There's like four throws where, like, the Vikings were inches away from an interception. And on all four of them, he's completing these awesome darts to his wide receivers. And so if he's going to have volume

Starting point is 00:21:34 and he throws like that against the Lions, then he could end up having a pretty good game. If he was out there, I would pick them up ahead of Levis and those other quarterbacks. And look, it could be one of those pick them up. You don't have to use them this week. Pick them up and see where it happens. It could be your bi-week quarterback in week 14 if you wanted. Absolutely. So who is Caleb?

Starting point is 00:21:50 Well, all right, well, get it. You tell me who he has in week 14. Let's go to the running backs. At San Francisco. If Bosa's not playing, that's fine. Okay, Jamie, the running backs. I'll give it to you again. We've talked about this, but let's repeat it.

Starting point is 00:22:01 Who are the top running backs to get? The top two are easy. It's Edwards and McNichols, you know, just with the opportunity for both to get starting jobs. I like the matchup better for Edwards. Both guys not going to be heavily involved in the passing game based on the profile and what they've done so far this season.

Starting point is 00:22:14 So give me Edwards against the Falcons as opposed to McNichols against the Titans. The third running back is a little bit trickier. I think you're looking more handcuffed slash long-term. So it could be Trey Benson It could be Roshan Johnson right now I have Johnson as the third guy, but it just depends on what you need They mentioned the matchup is not great for him. I think either the the rest of the season for the most part

Starting point is 00:22:35 But he has played more under Thomas Brown member. We thought okay, maybe it was a groin injury Was the reason why he played more snaps and Swift played left less snaps? Swift was still under 60% snaps for the second week in a row. And Grosjean got the touchdown again. So he's touchdown dependent, but just given the nature of what we're looking at from a waiver wire perspective,

Starting point is 00:22:56 he may fall in the end zone against Detroit. So that's something that gives him a little bit of an edge over the other guys. We agree on the names, we disagree on the order, just cause I'll take McNichols first, but it's only as a one week option. If you're looking long term, I would take Gus first. Number one, McNichols isn't going to have that job in

Starting point is 00:23:10 Washington forever. Number two, the commanders are on by in week 14. We don't know the severity of the Dobbins injury. Dobbins could be back next week. We just don't know. But if he's out for the year, then Gus Edwards is viable as a potential starter for the rest of the season. Roshan is third. I also wanted to make mention of Tank Bigsby, who's 37% available. I got a lot of names on my list that are good to just stash. You're headed toward the playoffs,

Starting point is 00:23:31 you've got some spots to play with. Maybe you wanna play a little keep away from your opponents. Maybe you just wanna fortify your depth. I think Bigsby is still the best running back in Jacksonville. I have no idea if he's gonna start playing in week 13, because remember, you've got hurt in ankle injury. But I would try and sash him, again, kind of a shallow league play,

Starting point is 00:23:48 because he's only available in less than 40% of CBS Sports Leagues, but he's somebody that I would try and pick up. Nice schedule for Jacksonville the rest of the way too. By the way, speaking of shallow leagues, if Jalen Warren is available, he's like something like 75% roster. 28% available.

Starting point is 00:24:01 That's someone you should be looking at for sure. But Jamie, so you go, Gus Edwards over McNichols, but Dave said Abdullah at the top of the show. If we throw him in the mix, I think he's 67% roster. Where would Abdullah rank right now with Edwards and McNichols? Edwards one, Abdullah two, McNichols three. Okay. Dave, who are the top wide receivers you want to get this week? Top three. Okay. So strictly using the 35% number that we use, Keen and Allen would be number one. He's 39% available. There's a couple of stash players. One of them is Keon Coleman.

Starting point is 00:24:36 So kind of in that same vein as Tank Bigsby. When he comes back, maybe he's something good for the Buffalo Bills passing game. Haven't seen Amari Cooper take that big leap yet. It's that outside wide out for them. Maybe it is going to be Keon Coleman. He's 39% available. And then the third name I have is Devon Vailet, 96% available. That's one for the guys that are none of these guys are available in my area.

Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah, we can go through it now. We can do it in years and that'll be terrible. Vailet has been the number two route rate guy in that receiving core for Denver for several weeks now. And I kind of think he's got that 12 PPR point floor going week in and week out. So that would be my three. Keenan Allen one, Keon Coleman two, De'Von Vailay three.

Starting point is 00:25:19 What about Elijah Moore? Assuming Tillman's out. Yeah, it makes sense, especially in PPR. He'd be closer to that list, but he's not gonna be in the top three for me. You wouldn't start more over Devon Vailay this week? They're almost the same guy. You're playing each other.

Starting point is 00:25:35 I know. I would rather start the receiver playing the Browns than the receiver playing the Broncos. Yeah, it's interesting. It's like those little slot receiver against the Broncos. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, the Broncos are really good. Are they a little beat up in the secondary though? Because they did not, you know, they had two receivers go over 80 yards, the Broncos against the Raiders

Starting point is 00:25:54 Tucker and Myers. Well, Tucker, Tucker went over 80 yards. Because he had a big play. Yeah. So I don't know if it's because they're beat up. I'd have to double check that we did see that Sir Tan was on most of the time. So that was not actually So I don't know if it's because they're beat up. I'd have to double check that we did see that Sir tan was on our most of the time so that he was not actually I want you went back and sucker more than anyone really Yeah, okay, but in the red zone was it powers? I thought like one play where we maybe I thought it was multiple plays We saw yeah, but it was mostly Tucker. Yeah, so Jamie's right Moss got hurt. I thought they maybe had a safe. That's true But that's right. All right Tight ends Jamie who are the top three tight ends to get the top three tight ends to get this week would be all

Starting point is 00:26:29 the guys that are in shallow leagues um yeah you can uh if you're looking for the guys who are available it's not it's not pretty just let me get there um would disc lee be on the list no he's rostered too many leagues uh coal combat would be one list? No, he's rostered too many leagues. Cole Comet would be one. Noah Gray would be two and Skoonmaker would be three. So I know that we have some issues with the roster rates sometimes. He's actually 59% rostered Will Disley. So will he be number one? Disley would be one, Comet would be two and Noah Gray would be three. Will Dis Lee Cole commit no great and honestly, hopefully you have well this Lee you know, didn't have a great game yesterday, but they just didn't have a great game as a as a

Starting point is 00:27:11 passing offense floor has still been pretty solid. That's now six or seven games with eight or more PPR points. Yeah, so so you wouldn't you wouldn't get away from like Hunter Henry for for Cole and Noah Gray, right? Henry had nine targets and five catches. You know, he's still very involved. He just, you know, Hooper scored a touchdown. I still think he's going to be a go-to guy for Drake May, just based on what we've seen.

Starting point is 00:27:34 So the fact that he still had all those opportunities is what you're banking on. Does anybody like Schoonmaker this week against the Giants? No. I don't mind him, but it's with the idea that he's in that same range as Komet, that eight, nine, 10 PPR point range. And he got there last week because of the touchdown. It wasn't because of volume.

Starting point is 00:27:52 I thought he'd have good volume. I kind of like Doudel this week. By the way- I think the Cowboys are gonna beat up the Giants, actually. By the way, yeah, the Colk of Met, the Lions give up the fewest fantasy points to tight ends. Yeah. So it's really not ideal. You're looking at,, the, the, the Colkham met, uh, the lions give us the fewest fantasy points to tight ends. So it's really not, not ideal. You know, again, opportunities.

Starting point is 00:28:09 I mean, 10 targets, I know they threw over, you know, 47 times, but, um, it's now 90% snap rate. Most of the season was last week, first game with Thomas Brown, 10 targets in this game coming off of that. We'll see. I like to see what they look like against a tight end that's featured because they should have given up a touchdown to a tight end last week. Oh, well, sure. Yeah. Who and I don't think they've given up a touchdown all season to

Starting point is 00:28:32 a tight end. That would have been the first one. AJ Barner. Right, right, right. Who are the top three DSC's, Jamie, or top however many? Cowboys is number one. Number two would be the Chargers. Their 63% roster against Atlanta. Giants would be number three against Dallas, 31% roster. How we feel about Arizona? They have a pretty good playoff schedule.

Starting point is 00:28:57 Someone emailed me and said, should I pick up Arizona for the playoffs? They're at Minnesota this week. So maybe not this week. Yeah, you can't use them this week. But after that, they actually have a pretty good schedule. I think you can't use them this week. But after that, they actually have a pretty good schedule. I think you can't use them. They're still top 12 for me. Against Minnesota, get some turnovers on the road.

Starting point is 00:29:10 Maybe they do. I would be hesitant. They've got Seattle, then New England, then at Carolina, then at the Rams. So there are some matchups. I think Arizona is viable. They'll be a top 12 unit. I would not trust them personally against the Vikings. Shout out to random emailer for bringing that to my attention.

Starting point is 00:29:27 Sorry, I don't. It's Jim from the East Coast. So is Dallas the Chargers and then the giant? The guy be pretty desperate to go with the Giants? The only the only positive for the Giants is that they've got a good pass rush. So maybe they get a few sacks. I've been doing that lately. But I mean, how do you take away what the Cowboys did on offense against Washington? They weren't a total disaster. Would you go with the Eagles at Baltimore or

Starting point is 00:29:48 the Giants on Thursday against the Cowboys? Giants. Eagles are pretty beat up right now. They had a bad week at their pass rush is definitely missing some some talent and various lays in the protocol in my rankings. As we say to her right now, I've got them back to back. All right, Jamie Kickers. Eagles ad. Who are our Kickers? I can read them if you want.

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Starting point is 00:31:36 So it's not like Dallas was having this off game. And one of the, how many touchdowns were defensive touchdowns worth or? DST? Right, right, right. So it's not, you're right. It's not like the offense was so right on fire. Okay. And Washington only sacked Cooper Rush once,

Starting point is 00:31:53 but there were two fumbles in the game from the Cowboys. And, oh, he had no, he had Rush had no turnovers or no, no interception. But I think it's given the, the offensive line situation for Dallas. The Giants DST is going to be decent this week. OK, so I don't know. Yeah, the fans will the fans will enjoy that.

Starting point is 00:32:13 I really need to work on the shallow league voice. I just don't have anything like why would the sophisticated stuffy guy be playing in shallow leagues of anything? He'd be playing in 18 team leagues that start three quarterbacks, Dave. So I have nothing. But Jamie, what who are the shallow league guys that we should be looking at? He'd be playing in 18 team leagues that start three quarterbacks Dave, so I have nothing but Jamie What who are the shallowly guys that we should be looking at? Start a quarterback you mentioned Caleb Williams. I think he's worth

Starting point is 00:32:34 Rostering not to necessarily play this week, but to have on your team just moving forward Love Anthony Richardson this week taking on the Patriots Kirk Cousins not for this week, but his next two games are favorable So he's at 82% rostered I don't want to play him this week at all taking on the Chargers Russell Wilson if you need somebody for this week, you can use him against the Bengals and gets Cleveland again next week So had 15 fantasy points against him in the snow Maybe he wasn't as bad as you know, I'm not giving credit for but better weather. Hopefully performs a little better running backs Mirabella we talked about already. He's at 66% rostered, Jalen Warren, 72% roster.

Starting point is 00:33:08 Those would be the two guys to go get. I think make the most sense. A wide receiver. We touched on a couple of guys with Jerry Judy in terms of what he's at. Christian Watson. I would go right back to him. I don't care that he had the drop and no catches on three targets. If he catches that, we're all still excited about what Christian Watson's

Starting point is 00:33:22 capable of doing. Um, Romo Dunze has got 10 targets in each of his last two games. Michael Pittman, including no downs and 15 targets in the two games with, uh, with Anthony Richardson's Richardson back tight ends. There's a lot of guys. So we have, um, let me get there. Sorry. Uh, we have John Smith is the prize this week.

Starting point is 00:33:44 Evan Ingram, I think certainly benefits of Trevor Lawrence is back. Hunter Henry again, nine targets, still getting a lot of opportunities. Tucker Kraft now has six touchdowns in his last eight games. Might benefit with Romeo Dobbs out and Dalton Kincaid. You know, at this point, I think you almost say deeper leagues as opposed to shallow leagues, but 73% rostered if he was dropped. Hopefully comes back and hopefully starts to play like the guy we were thinking of earlier this season.

Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah, it's pretty interesting. You said that John Smith would be the shallow league prize. I wonder though if John Smith, obviously, maybe it depends on what you need, but to me, Jaylen Warren, man, I would not even hesitate to be my first waiver wire priority. He's got a pretty nice floor, you part of eight points, which isn't that bad, but he's pretty much. Yeah. And then, I mean, we've been saying this for three years. So I don't think it's ever gonna happen. But he just see, you know, this could be the week

Starting point is 00:34:38 where he overtakes Najah Harris. I don't think that's gonna happen. But he just seems like he's got more juice than Najah Harris always. So anyway, Jaylen Warren, 72% roster, it's just hard to find running backs that could be flex worthy. Okay. John has been great. You know, I think that as we speak in the shallow league context, and even in the non shallow leagues, right? It's like, what is the Green Bay offense going to look like, Dave? Because you go with do you trust Christian Watson, if he's available on your waiver wire without Romeo Dobbs almost certainly this week, right?

Starting point is 00:35:05 Do you go with Dontavian Wicks who got a lot of targets when Watson was out earlier? Right. And they kind of been playing the same role, just not at the same time. I think Love has thrown 40 passes in his last two games combined. So we just haven't seen a lot of volume. If the Dolphins go in there and put up some points, that'd be great. But the weather is going to be not really conducive to that. So what do you think about any Kraft, Watson,

Starting point is 00:35:31 Kraft, Watson, Wicks, maybe even Bo Melton, whoever you see on the waiver wire for this team? Well, when I think about Romeo Dobbs in his role, one of the things that he's good at are those short and intermediate targets. So he's not getting those 50 yard rainbows from Jordan love like Christian Watson would get or Dontavian wicks

Starting point is 00:35:47 will get on occasion he does. But for the most part, he's anywhere 15 area yards or closer to the line of scrimmage. I would think that Tucker Kraft would pick up more of that with Romeo Dobbs up. And I think that Jayden Reed would pick up a lot more targets with Romeo Dobbs out. I'd have to go back and look at who else might be someone who comes off the bench and is a benefactor from that.

Starting point is 00:36:07 And maybe there's someone that you saw, Bo Melton, Lily Keith, one of those guys. Maybe it was Wicks for all I know. I haven't had the chance to go back and study that yet, but I will. I think that that's probably where they go with short area throws, especially if the Dolphins are gonna play

Starting point is 00:36:22 a lot of zone coverage to try and take away that deep ball from Jordan Love. The thing is the Dolphins are gonna play a lot of zone coverage to try and take away that deep ball from Jordan Love. The thing is the Dolphins, I mean we can scoff because they haven't had a very hard schedule but we're 12 weeks into the season their third best against wide receivers. That's another thing to keep in mind. I think what you look at is you look at what he did against that what they did against Stafford, you know, which was impressive in that Monday night. Yeah. Then I think you got to give him a little bit of credit for what they did against Drake May, which was impressive in that Monday night camp. Then I think you gotta give them a little bit of credit for

Starting point is 00:36:46 what they did against Drake May, cuz May had been playing a lot better than what he showed last week as well. So their pass rush with Chop Robinson has certainly been impressive. He's making a late season push to challenge Jared verse for defensive rookie of the year. And that's been huge. And their secondary for the most part has played well and been consistent. So it's not a bad spot to be in.

Starting point is 00:37:05 And to your, your, the article that you sent us, Adam, you know, what they're doing is they're keeping their defense relatively fresh, you know? So maybe that's a big part of what's happened this season as well, is that they're not putting them in all these big play three and outs if they don't get big plays, uh, scenarios, you know, so the, the dink and dunk offense is probably keeping them a little fresher. I do think that they have had a very, a very easy schedule and this could be the best passing offense that they've seen all year unless I'm forgetting someone.

Starting point is 00:37:30 So we'll see. I mean they had their hands when those guys were healthy in Los Angeles. That was a really, really good performance. But Nakua and Cupp I think both had good games. I think they both had good games. I mean Nakua scored at least 18 points. Cupp had a, as I recall. We're talking about the quarterback

Starting point is 00:37:47 as opposed to the receivers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know what? I look forward to tomorrow's show. We'll be breaking down the Thanksgiving game and the three games and also the Chiefs Raiders on Friday. All right, Dave, I don't know why we talked about those guys. None of those guys are available in Mardig.

Starting point is 00:38:02 So who are the deep league guys? Let's start a quarterback. Will Levis, 78% available. If you need a quarterback, bi-week replacement over the next two weeks, I think Will Levis is somebody who would qualify. Jameis Winston is also out there, at least we know that Winston.

Starting point is 00:38:15 He didn't have a lot of volume last Thursday. I wonder if he'll end up having more volume this coming week with the Browns obviously throwing. And then there's one less target with Tillman for this week. We talked about McNichols, 86% available. He's going to be an easy guy to go and target. If Gus Edwards is already rostered, if Amir Abdul is already rostered,

Starting point is 00:38:35 other running backs that are highly available. It ain't pretty. It's like Sean Tucker, it's Amir White, it's Jaleel McLaughlin, guys that you're pretty much stashing. If you're starting them You're hoping for like three or four fantasy points wide receiver Devon Vailay, but he's gonna be on by in week 14 So keep that in mind if you need him for this week. That's a different story

Starting point is 00:38:54 Elijah Moore 69% available if you need somebody deeper than that feeling Marquez Valdez scantling both of those guys 75% available and players that are, you know, in the case of feeling a little bit safer, might be able to get you 10 PPR points, maybe 15. If he scores a touchdown, MVS is a boom bus play might get you four PPR points might get you 15 PPR points. It depends on what you need.

Starting point is 00:39:20 Tight end. I would say that the top name is Noah Gray, 93% available. Watch the snaps. He only played 10 snaps with Deandre Hopkins last week. And so when I watched Noah Gray play, again, it's almost like what I said with Will Disley. He doesn't do a lot of things that are particularly special. He's good at finding open space against zone coverage. And obviously he's a target in the red zone. He leads the chiefs in red zone and end zone targets over their last two games. And he's played at least he's had a 50% route run rate

Starting point is 00:39:50 since they're by. So that tells me that there's something going on where they're using Noah Gray a little bit more kind of like a part-time slot receiver replacement. He's running a lot of those inside routes. So maybe there's something to it. I don't I don't I'm I worry about what his stats would be. If he doesn't score a touchdown, it could be six PPR points. So I wouldn't be excited about that.

Starting point is 00:40:13 If Luke Schoonmaker, if Ferguson's out on Thursday, I'd rather start Schoonmaker than Noah Gray, and he's available in 88% of leagues. And that's really about it. If you go to the DSTs, Cowboys are 77% available. They were Jamie's favorite. They're my favorite as well. I think they're like a top eight DST going up against the G men, especially. And I told you, you already knew that the Giants offensive line was terrible.

Starting point is 00:40:36 They were absolutely awful last week. And I can't help but think, even if Parsons doesn't play that the Cowboys are going to be able to get pressure on Devito, force some turnovers, get some sacks and finish as a top eight DST. Cowboys are my number one DST. Number one. Wow. So we'll get into, I want to talk about Monday night football, but I

Starting point is 00:40:58 need to be reminded, so I owe you lunch. What was the bet exactly? Quinton Johnson. It was me and Heath with Quinton Johnson versus Xavier Liggett. For how long? What time period? It was the three weeks of before you came down. And Quentin Johnson, because I'm just thinking about this now, scored zero points yesterday.

Starting point is 00:41:19 Am I not winning this bet now? No, you lost it. It's points per game, right? So that's 16.6 divided by two for Xavier League it that's that's 88.8 right? 16.6 divided by three 8.3 and for Johnston it's 23.2 divided by three. I won the bet. I won the bet. It was you owe me lunch. It was according to you, Tennessee, Cincinnati and both.

Starting point is 00:41:54 It was the last three weeks, weeks, 10, 11, 12. But you're it's three games, one player and two games of another. Yeah. So it's points per game. So they really get has been better. You said total. He had a bye. That was your fault. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He had a buy. That was your fault. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 00:42:09 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no We got to watch the game against the Browns for Johnston. And right, right.

Starting point is 00:42:26 And you said you would take Lee get. I don't remember what the what the length of time was, though. I thought it was over because we had a factor in the by week. It may. Okay. If it was points per game from then to now, League, it wins. If it was just week 10, which may have been then Quentin Johnston wins 10 to 10.4 to 7.2 fantasy points.

Starting point is 00:42:44 I would got to check the tape. Look at this jousting between you. Yeah, cause we might go figure out. You might go, go to a stank house. Hey, all right. Baltimore 30 and the Chargers 23. Jamie, what were your Quentin Johnston actually like with a total dud.

Starting point is 00:42:58 That's kind of a big takeaway, but what were your big takeaways from this game? It's one of the worst games you could possibly have. He had five targets, three drops and no catches. So it was a pretty, pretty dismal for him, abysmal for him. I thought Herbert was on his way to a monster game and then clearly did not get it going. So that was frustrating to watch

Starting point is 00:43:13 after he had the rushing touchdown on their opening drive. Dobbin's injury sucked because he looked like he was gonna have a big game as well. And then it kind of just took off from the Ravens there. And you kind of wonder if Johnson has the first the, the big, the first drop, the, you know, the, the one that everybody's going to remember, um, that it felt like maybe they have a chance to get this game, get back into the game. And we have a little bit more action from Baltimore side, but Derek Henry ran

Starting point is 00:43:37 well, 140 yards rushing, no touchdown. So his touchdown streak stopped, uh, Lamar Jackson's throw to Rashad Bateman was, was amazing. The catch was even better. Uh, it's a little frustrating right now with Zay Flowers because he's getting some opportunities, not a lot, and he's not producing the last couple of weeks. So you're going to continue to start him. This is a tough matchup against Philadelphia and with no teams on a buy. He's just outside my top 24 for this week. Okay. Yeah. The thing that he's playing a lot, say flowers, he had an end zone target

Starting point is 00:44:06 or if it officially counted as an end zone target, but there was a defender. No, no, no, the one where where Jackson was rolling to his left, and he threw flowers was the intended receiver and it was just batted down by a defender who was about a yard into the end zone. I don't know if you remember that play, but flowers was open. I mean, he was open if if the if the the defender had been like invisible, then you know, he could have something go right through him. It would have been a touchdown.

Starting point is 00:44:32 I guess if I would be looking at him as a by-law right now, cause I think there are probably people like, Oh, since the Deontay Johnson trade, he's been terrible. Deontay Johnson doesn't play. So it's just like Zay Flowers is playing a ton. There's no more trades. I mean, I think like you're right up against it. Some people go to Thanksgiving week. I've had people ask me when's the trade chart coming out? This is my last chance to make it trade.

Starting point is 00:44:53 There are some leads out there. Would you agree though that Zay Flowers looks like a silo? Sure. Absolutely. Like something's down to happen. He's just ready to make a big play. And he had eight targets in the game. Like there, I understand that he's very much a boom or bust type of fantasy wide receiver. But when the boom set, you're going to be happy that you've got them in your lineup. Do you guys feel more confident right now in lad Macconkey who had six catches for 83 yards on six targets

Starting point is 00:45:16 or Zay Flowers? I think Macconkey is the number one guy. And if it's full PPR, I think he's safer and I think he's steadier. So I would take my Conkey over Zay Flowers. And Mark Andrews, has Mark Andrews had a single game? Okay, five targets. He is, he just needs, he really just needs four targets.

Starting point is 00:45:37 Four or five targets and he gets at least 9.1 fantasy points every single time. How many of those were with touchdowns? 12123 well, yeah most so he's a touchdown or bus fantasy tied in, but two games where he had five targets. He had 50 or four catches for 51, four catches for 55. It's not that bad. It's all he needs is four or five targets.

Starting point is 00:45:59 Well, sure. So when he gets those catches and he doesn't score, it's nine PPR points. You can still feel like that you could find somebody with a little bit more upside off your way. Like John who Smith obviously is way more upside than that. But you're not going with Komet or would you go with this? They're almost the same type of player. Komet versus Andrews. Komet's like three good games.

Starting point is 00:46:21 Right. The difference is that Komet isn't scoring touchdowns. I think if the Chargers don't have JK Dobbins, their run game could be in trouble and Disley could end up seeing more targets. So I think I would consider Disley over Andrews. Andrews is tight end 14 per game in full PPR. I'm sure he's better than that in the other formats. All right, back to the waiver wire. We could do a little bit of drop-o-meter.

Starting point is 00:46:42 I didn't have anyone necessarily prepared, but let's just go like wide receivers get dropped all the time. So would you drop a Wondell Robinson 55% rostered drop a meter on him? It's high. It's like eight, nine. How about Xavier Liggett? Is he more of an ad or more of a drop? He's 53% rostered. It's hard to say there's any reason to trust the Panthers receivers, but they're all viable options if you need someone, because they're all getting different opportunities to make plays. But I would rather wholly get them dropping.

Starting point is 00:47:15 I don't mind dropping them. I don't know when we'll feel good about starting them knowing that feelings back and then eventually Sanders will come back and they seem to be spreading the ball around a little bit Deontay Johnson is super dropable 50% rostered Right into the dumpster. It's hard. It's hard to think of a player whose value changed Who's value sunk more than his after a midseason trade? My goodness is so bad for him It was he was like a must start. You can't find anybody like that other than Devontae Adams and Amari Cooper

Starting point is 00:47:44 Are you kidding? I know this guy's worse than that. This is worse than that. But it's funny how all the receivers that got traded really didn't amount to much. Ricky Pearsall, 43% roster. Oh, he might be hurt on top of being like fourth in targets for the Niners. Okay. He had the one game, the one big play against Tampa Bay.

Starting point is 00:48:02 That was my concern coming off of that. And he's done nothing since the targets and no catch. I was hoping that he'd be more involved than he wasn't. And Tyler Lockett, 68 percent roster, things probably time. Yeah. The way that Jason's been playing and you know what the upside is with DK and those two guys seem to be hogging targets, they're funneled to them more so than lock it. You know, when you start locking,

Starting point is 00:48:23 you're hoping he has one of those lightning in a bottle weeks. There's probably five or six receivers that we can point to that might be on the waiver wire that are in the exact same type of canoe, but maybe a little bit better and have a little bit of a higher floor than Lockett. Jamie, would you drop off the Audrex Estimé or Gervonta Williams at this point? Gervonta, I would hold depending on what you need. So like if you need a running back for this week, I'd rather start Edwards, I'd rather start McNichols. So if that's the decision you have to make, but SMA is definitely dropable.

Starting point is 00:48:52 Okay. And let's go take another look at the waiver wires. There are a lot of other names to talk about. I actually wanted to ask you about Aaron Rodgers. We haven't spoken about him. He's actually not been that bad. He usually gets you around 20 points. So quarterbacks,

Starting point is 00:49:05 we've got Brock Purdy and Trevor Lawrence questionable for this week. We got Gardner Minshew out. Um, Jamie mentioned cousins. He's 84% rostered. So not a super available. We don't love them this week. Schedule gets a little bit better. Um, Anthony Richardson, 78% rostered for the last five quarterbacks to face the Patriots have scored 20 or more fantasy points. They've allowed eight passing touchdowns in their last two games to Stafford and to a Wilson, Caleb Williams. You don't have to start these guys, but maybe pick them up. So then the waiver wire guys who are rostered in fewer than 65% of leagues or

Starting point is 00:49:37 65 or fewer percent less percent, whatever it is Derek Carr against the Rams will have us at Washington and Trevor Lawrence, who would be number one for Jamie if we knew that he were fourth. I moved into first. Okay. And Houston's been struggling. They, and they're super banged up, at least in the second. The only thing they've got going for them

Starting point is 00:49:57 is their pass rush is really strong. And we know the offensive line for Jacksonville isn't very strong. So is this going to be a game where Trevor Lawrence is going to have to get the ball out fast? A lot of short throws, hope that his receivers make plays after the catch. I agree. I think he's the one you should go after first. It's either him or Will Levis.

Starting point is 00:50:14 And it's just a matter of how much you want to trust Will Levis. I don't think a lot of other people are going to target Will Levis in one QB leagues right now. So if you go and get Trevor Lawrence, and Lawrence doesn't play, you should be able to find Will Levis on the waiver wire a couple days later. They got nobody on by this week. So we have pretty high standards. Can we get 21 or more fantasy points and six point for passing touchdown leagues from Cooper Rush against the Giants, Bryce Young against Tampa Bay, Aiden O'Connell at Kansas City? No.

Starting point is 00:50:43 No? Less than 20. I'd go under 21. I mean, I would debate that with Trevor Lawrence and Will Levis. I don't know how close they'll get to 21. Bryce Young just had his best game of the season. It was 18 and a half points. One. Yeah, but he's got Tampa Bay this week, so it's probably his best matchup, right? And he's got him twice.

Starting point is 00:51:04 They might be able to run in this game, though. Let us like Washington hasn't been that bad. Well, 21 or more fantasy points to quarterback in three of their last four games. But he's got he also has Jacksonville twice in his upcoming schedule, including fantastic. Yes, let us agree. So I almost say we need to kind of reframe the quarterbacks for those fantasy managers that have Lamar Jackson that have, you know, maybe they're starting Richardson, the quarterbacks

Starting point is 00:51:28 are Bo Nix, the quarterbacks that are on by in week 14. And Levis against Jacksonville sounds really good to me. That sounds, that sounds a little bit better to me. I don't know. We could, we could talk about Trevor Lawrence versus Will Levis in week 14. No, I wouldn't. I'm thinking, well, here's the thing about Levis. He's a big play guy, right? Like it's just airing it out. The only guy who's doing it more than him is Russell Wilson lately.

Starting point is 00:51:52 And Jacksonville gives up the most big plays in the NFL. Right. But they can also run on Jacksonville. And so Tony Pollard is going to have a big game. So how much throwing will Will Levis do? Tony Pollard has a big game all the time. Trevor Lawrence is going to do a lot of throwing against Tennessee and that's the way you you compete with Tennessee is your throw on them. Alright, but Levis, you know, Levis could have a nice finish here. And then alright, how do

Starting point is 00:52:16 you feel about Aaron Rodgers against the Seahawks? I don't like him. Seattle's defense the last two weeks has actually been really good. They held Brock Purdy to one touchdown He had a rushing touchdown in that game. They shut down Kyler Murray They're getting healthier on that side of the ball. You got all this drama going on with the Jets right now So I'd like to see him play well But then he gets Miami the following week and if we're gonna buy into the Dolphins defense It's two potentially bad matchups in a row

Starting point is 00:52:39 So yes, he's played better 20 or more fantasy points in three of his last four games But I just don't know if you want to trust it. You know, he's not getting you a lot of yards. So it's touchdown dependent at this point. I mean, his last game, he was 184 passing yards and two touchdowns, you know, so it's not like Aaron Rodgers is doing a great as great performances overall. It just feels everything just feels off about that team. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:52:59 All right. Uh, how do you feel about real quick, Drake may against the Colts or Jamis Winston at Denver, another team in terms of the Colts that have been very good against opposing quarterbacks They did a great job against CJ Stroud granted that was you know stroud without Nikko Collins They did a great job against Josh Allen. They did a great job against Jared Goff Rogers to you know pretty good against Rogers golf was good. I got 20 fantasy points against them

Starting point is 00:53:23 So just given the fact of how Drake May is performing right now, I know both teams are going to their buys so they can clearly be looking ahead. Coles need this game. Patriots clearly are a draft-focused team at this point. The Colts are still in the playoff hunt. So I would trust their defense

Starting point is 00:53:38 more than I would trust Drake May. All right, and Jameis Winston, we would trust him, but it's Denver. And only Lamar Jackson has scored 20. You got a pretty good sample size of what Jameis Winston, we would trust him, but it's Denver and only, only Lamar Jackson is. You got, you got a pretty good sample size of what Jameis Winston is. He's played four games now. He's had two good matchups, two bad matchups. He's been great in the two good matchups. He's been terrible in two bad matchups. This is a bad matchup. Yeah. I guess if you wanted to make the case, you got to think about the weather and the

Starting point is 00:53:58 bad matchup against Pittsburgh. Hard to throw. And I played pretty well down the stretch. And low volume too. And I had two rushing touchdowns, but, um But yeah, Denver's is pretty much as tough as it gets. Running backs, if Jaylen Warren's available, grab them. Amir Abdullah is another guy, 67% roster, 66, whatever it is. And then there's Gus Edwards and Jeremy McNichols. We've talked about those guys. If you can't get them, Rochon Johnson, get some handcuffs. Tajay Spears, if Tajay Spears is back, he's a guy who could get you eight points or more if you're desperate. And Justice Hill got lucky. I started in middle league yesterday. That was, thank you.

Starting point is 00:54:33 By week replacement. Yeah. No, I went horrible, horrible running back replacement. Okay. But we got Pacheco in that league. Jerome Ford, Devin Singletary. I mean, look, with all these fumbles for Tyrone Tracy, you wonder what the role will be for Devin Singletary. He's 49% rostered. Cowboys are 29th against running backs. They allow 4.5 yards per carry. The Saints are next for the Giants. They allow five yards per carry to running backs. I don't know. Is any appeal there to Singletary? I would rather have Singletary than Justice Hill, just because I think we're going to see a split between Singletary I would rather have singletary than Justice Hill just because I think we're gonna see a

Starting point is 00:55:05 Split between Singletary and Tyrone Tracy at this point I don't think they're gonna completely get away from Tracy But Singletary might lead them in carries and he might be the guy they trust near the goal line And that's the most important part of all So I think in terms of if you need someone to play this week, you'd rather have Singletary I would 1000% much rather roster Justice Hill than Devin Singletary on the off chance that something happens there, Ken. That's fair. And then back to Jerome Ford real quick.

Starting point is 00:55:32 Playing the Broncos two games go get four catches if they use him in the passing game as we've seen it's now nine running backs this season after what Abdul the nine running backs have scored at least six point eight PPR points or more with just the receiving totals alone. Against Broncos. Okay. You could maybe think about Sincereman Cormac if you're super desperate. Yeah. And Angelil McLaughlin, it was his week. And then he got here. Rotation up and it's Estimates Week again. Yeah, it's back to Estimates. Do they have another running back? Are they going to elevate for the practice squad?

Starting point is 00:56:06 Like wide receivers. All right, wide receivers. Don't forget about Tank Bigsby as a stash. Oh yeah, Tank Bigsby. That's a good call there, I put Bigsby in the call. There's a couple other stashes at wide receiver. I'll bring them up as we go. Well, I just wanna know how you guys feel

Starting point is 00:56:17 about Jerry Judy this week. 79% roster, he's playing really well, right? Let's see, 12.9 or more points in four straight games. But now it's Denver, he's playing really well, right? Let's see, 14, 12.9 or more points in three, four straight games. Yeah. But now it's Denver. What do we think? I think you buy into what the track record has been

Starting point is 00:56:31 and what the volume has been. He'll be extra motivated taking on his former team. This is still going to be an offense that throws a lot. He gets plenty of throws inside of that 15 area yard range and he can make plays after the catch. He did that in the snow against Pittsburgh. So I feel okay, okay about Jerry Judy this week. It's gotta be.

Starting point is 00:56:48 I'd rather start lab MacCocky for example. Julie only has one touchdown in the four games with Jamis. So it's not like he's getting a lot of production easily. He had the huge game two games ago, but yes he should benefit without Tillman year Tillman there. And maybe if Riley Moss is not there, he might benefit. But this is not gonna be a great game for Jared Judy. But it could be 10 targets, seven catches, 70 yards.

Starting point is 00:57:11 I think he's got one game with more than eight targets from that mistake. No. He's got a... No, I mean, unless I'm wrong. He had six targets right against the... Yeah, he had six against Pittsburgh. I think he had eight, 11, and 11 in the previous three games.

Starting point is 00:57:26 Two with 11, sorry. And it's still a high target share each week, and then certainly a high target for Raul Rodgers. No, he should be added for sure. He's a number one target getter for the Browns now. All right, Michael Pittman. Would you rather start Michael Pittman this week against the Patriots or Jerry Judy?

Starting point is 00:57:42 Judy. Judy, it's close, especially with downs out dueling out like they're running out of bodies and Pittman is going to be back in, in the saddle to lead that team and targets. Oh, nice Aerosmith reference. Romo Dunze is 71% rostered. I went back, I looked at his targets. It wasn't really the most impressive game for a dunze, but there were two throws on the same possession where he could have had either like a 20 yard gain or maybe even a touchdown up the sideline and Caleb didn't really the most impressive game for a doonsay, but there were two throws on the same possession

Starting point is 00:58:05 where he could have had either like a 20 yard gain or maybe even a touchdown up the sideline and Caleb didn't really put an autumn Christian Watson. If Christian Watson and Roma doonsay Jamie are both out there on your waiver wire, who are you prioritizing? Watson. I would say a doonsay.

Starting point is 00:58:20 I think he'll get more targets. Keenan Allen is your got your favorite. If he's out there, he's 61% right Elijah Moore. Devon Vailay, DiMario Douglas. I mean this this is a super safe play. You know around 10 PPR fantasy points for Douglas. You don't have him in week 14. Same thing with Vailay, but rest of season.

Starting point is 00:58:43 Good bench wide receivers, especially in full PPR, not so much in non PPR. Noah Brown could have four targets. You could have eight. You don't know with Noah Brown, but he's always got a chance to do something. He had a nice game against Dallas. Wouldn't it come down to how much the commanders are going to throw in a certain game? And this week, if they don't have Robinson, they don't have Eckler, they might throw a

Starting point is 00:59:01 lot. So that would benefit Noah Brown. Oh, so you were talking, okay, the MVS is on this list too. But you were talking about someone, oh, Noah Gray leading the Chiefs in green zone targets, end zone targets, we've heard the last two weeks. Do you know who leads the Tennessee Titans in green zone targets this year?

Starting point is 00:59:18 This year. Yeah. And he only has five to lead the team. And he's the only one with more than two. And he's on the waiver wire. It's Nick Westbrook-Kakene. It's him? Nick Westbrook-Kakene. You might think, oh, all he does is score touchdowns

Starting point is 00:59:31 from distance, right? He has six touchdowns this year, Nick Westbrook-Kakene. Are they all in the last six weeks? Or last seven weeks, maybe? Four of them are from inside the 10 yard line. And two of them are long touchdowns including a 98 yarder but nick westbrook kina is the only titans player with more than two green zone targets he leads the team calvin ridley has one green zone target this year that's exciting when you say all this westbrook

Starting point is 00:59:54 kina yeah yeah yeah by the way no Noah brown's last four games 27 targets terry mcclaren's last four games 17 targets why does that make sense? It does not. Could it make sense from the, from the idea that teams are doubling McLoran and so more targets are going to Noah Brown and that could be happening. That might be what's happening in Tennessee. I don't know. I'd have to go back and watch and see, but if teams are doubling Calvin Ridley, it would make sense that Will Levis is going to go to another player. Now find a way to get McLaurin involved you know. Yeah sure well that's a Cliff Kingsbury problem. Jamie what do you think about the the other Colts receivers Pierce and Mitchell

Starting point is 01:00:33 against the Patriots? Yeah they both benefit you know Christian Gonzalez basically shadowed Tyree Kill in this game last week so that opened things up for Waddle and Johnna Smith. I wonder what he'll do or where he'll go against the Colts if they if they send him anywhere You probably assume it would be against Pittman. So Pierce is a big play threat We've seen that and the last time Pittman was out Pierce had a big game that was with Joe Flacco I think if you're looking at Adonai Mitchell, you know, he has the probably best opportunity to step into Josh Downs role So will he we'll see I don't want to trust any of them with no teams on a buy I certainly would like to roster still Pierce first and then Mitchell just in case this is a as as they indicated a potential multi week injury for Josh Downs, but nobody starting those guys with no teams on a buy in week 13.

Starting point is 01:01:16 Sure. And then there's two stash wide receivers. I mentioned one earlier with Keon Coleman. This is for the teams that are headed to the playoffs. You just want to fortify the bench shallow leagues. Chris Olave is still out there in 31% of league. Wow. I don't know when he's coming back. Remember he suffered that nasty concussion. He's had a couple of them this year now, but if he comes back out of the by Saints are practicing and he's doing well. That's somebody I would absolutely love to grab off the waiver wire. You can double check to see if he's there. New Orleans is two games out of the first place. If they win another game, you know, things get kind of interesting. So then you've got you've got the Carolina. Who's your I think so too. I think the Bucks are winning that division too. But if they if they somehow botch it along the way and the Saints do keep on winning

Starting point is 01:01:59 like you're talking about, they could absolutely steal it away. So who, um, who, which is just real quick, Dave, who's your favorite Panthers wide receiver? If you had to pick one, it's, it's league it, but it's not with, it's not by a huge margin. It's such a good matchup other than the giants that everyone seems to do well against. I mean, you'd think that Liga would be able to come through

Starting point is 01:02:21 and lead that team and targets last week. And it ended up being David Moore, which was kind of of crazy we have Ray Ray McLeod listed on here. It was last we saw Darnell Mooney had an injury I think he's gonna be okay and Parker Washington his last two games with Trevor Lawrence He went over 40 yards and both of them he scored him seven to seven point six PPR fantasy points So obviously we're looking at Low standard here, but Parker Washington, 4% roster tight ends. Johnny Smith. That's part of it too.

Starting point is 01:02:48 True, yeah. Johnny Smith has been the man. Green Bay is a good matchup and Johnny Smith has been really good. Evan Ingram, so you would rather have John or than Evan Ingram? Yes. Yeah, okay.

Starting point is 01:02:59 Hunter Henry, Tucker Kraft. Like would you go, would you pivot from Tucker Kraft who scores a lot but doesn't get targets, to Will Disley? If Dobbs is out, I'd rather have Kraft. By the way, actually, let me put this to you. If Taysom Hill and John-U Smith are both available, who are you going with? John-U, but Taysom would be second.

Starting point is 01:03:20 He would be. All right. So our top priorities would be Will Disley, Cole Comet, Noah Gray, Luke Schoonmaker. For a one week scenario, I don't know what that one week scenario would be, like why this would be the week when no one's on by, but who are you going to, who are you ranking higher this week? Schoonmaker against the Giants or Comet against the Lions at the Lions? Schoonmaker. They both have absolutely terrible matchups.

Starting point is 01:03:40 So I'll take the guys getting a few more targets with the better quarterback. So I'll take Comet. Schoonmaker. I love it. Pat Fryermuth has a great matchups. So I'll take the guys getting a few more targets with the better quarterback. So I'll take him at school. I love it. Pat Friar Muth has a great matchup. Cincinnati is so bad against tight ends and then Cleveland next week. Didn't he do something against the Bengals though? I think he actually had a good game against the Bengals. This is their right.

Starting point is 01:04:01 Is it? Yeah, you'd have to you'd have to weigh him. Pittsburgh's first division games were the last two weeks. Oh yeah, you're right. Maybe it was last year, you're thinking of who the hell. Yeah, DG Gaming against the Browns last week was 4-4-9. It was Cleveland, that's his week 14 matchup, he had four catches, 59 yards. Okay, but if you're considering firing with your wing, him against the Spoon Makers and Noah Gray's of the world and you might just rather take your chances with the double you don't know.

Starting point is 01:04:27 What do you think spoon man is about the song? I don't know. I'm going to find out. I'm going to find out. I have a source. I'm going to find out. And Jawan Johnson. They'll tell us in the YouTube.

Starting point is 01:04:39 You can take a look at Dawson Knox. Oh, that's right. I don't have the YouTube comments in front of me. I'm sorry about Dawson Knox. If Kin that's right. I don't have the YouTube comments in front of me. I'm sorry, everybody. Dawson Knox, if Kinkade's out again. Dallas DST, Jamie loves them. Chargers against the Falcons, Giants at Dallas, Seahawks at the Jets, Cardinals at Minnesota. Not a bad week to stream DSDs. And the kickers are Chase McLaughlin, Will Lutz, John Parker-Romo, Brandon McManus, and Blake Rupe. Thank you so much much for watching and listening everybody. We will talk to you tomorrow. We're going to look at the Thanksgiving games, the Black Friday game. We're going to preview

Starting point is 01:05:11 at least, yeah, we'll preview four games and figure out some other fun stuff to do on the Wednesday show. We'll see you then.

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