Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire, Will Fuller, Scheduling Changes (12/01 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 1, 2020

Need to use a streamer to clinch a playoff spot this week? Let's give you the names you need to know (and some info on how the Steelers-Ravens game will alter your league scoring and settings)! We'll... start the show with our top priorities including Cam Akers, Deebo Samuel and Devontae Booker. Who are the QBs (16:00) and TEs (22:40) to prioritize this week and would we start any of the QBs over Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson or Josh Allen? ... Updating you on the NFL schedule changes (28:33) and the Ravens RB situation, plus more news and notes (31:55) as we get into the impact of Will Fuller's suspension. Is Watson still a Top 10 QB? Then we give the Top 3 waiver wire priorities at each position (39:00) ... Recapping Seahawks-Eagles (46:00) with a lot of RB talk. And we'll finish with the Dropometer (50:30) and a deeper look at the waiver wire (54:05) for Fantasy managers in both shallower and deeper leagues ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Kick off an exciting football season with BetMGM, an official sportsbook partner of the National Football League. Yard after yard, down after down, the sportsbook born in Vegas gives you the chance to take action to the end zone and celebrate every highlight reel play. And as an official sportsbook partner of the NFL, BetMGM is the best place to fuel your football fandom on every game day. With a variety of exciting features, BetMGM offers you plenty of seamless ways to jump straight onto the gridiron and to embrace peak sports action. Ready for another season of gridiron glory? What are you waiting for?
Starting point is 00:00:38 Get off the bench, into the huddle, and head for the end zone all season long. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. Must be 19 years of age or older. Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? For free assistance, call the Connex Ontario helpline at 1-866-531-2600.
Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. I'll tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Man, we got a busy show today. We got schedule changes. We've got Will Fuller's suspension. And, of course, we, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Man, we got a busy show today. We got schedule changes. We've got Will Fuller suspension. And of course, we have the waiver wire. And waivers aren't even running until tomorrow night.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We're still going to give you a sneak peek. We'll update you accordingly on Wednesday's show. It's Tuesday, and we're still not done with Fantasy Week 12. Of course, you are aware of that. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, and Jamie Eisenberg. All right, Jamie, this is a waiver wire show. We won't get distracted the entire time by the other stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Give me a 0 to 10 on the waiverometer for this week's waiver wire. You know, it's an interesting week, obviously, with the Wednesday waiver moves because you're going to know some of the practice reports Wednesday, which changes some things because if Josh Jacobs is out and misses practice Wednesday, it becomes a much
Starting point is 00:02:08 more interesting waiver wire period. If Josh Jacobs practices, it becomes a very, very boring waiver period. Well, I should take it back. If Josh Jacobs, take Josh Jacobs out of the equation. If James Connors not back next week and one of Benny Snell and Anthony McFarlane go off on Wednesday, this running back period becomes a little bit more exciting, but without those guys, James Conner's not back next week. And one of Benny Snell and Anthony McFarlane go off on Wednesday. This running back period becomes a little bit more exciting. But without those guys, it becomes a very boring waiver period. Outside of maybe quarterback and tight end. Yeah, and we'll spice it up.
Starting point is 00:02:35 We'll spice it up, of course. There are always players to pick up. Well, there are guys, for sure. I mean, look, you have to replace Will Fuller, which sucks. And there are some things at play, look, you're down Carolina and Tampa Bay from a bi-week standpoint, there's potentially six starting wide receivers in three receiver leagues there with how those guys have played, you know, so you might need some wide receiver help and there are some running back options for you, but it's not like there's a maybe outside of Debo Samuel. There's, there, there's not like this is a must-start player
Starting point is 00:03:07 at running back or wide receiver this week, barring injury slash COVID news. Sure. Okay, Dave, your thoughts. Hi. Hi. There's like, if Josh Jacobs is healthy and James Conner is back, then there's like one, maybe two interesting players at each position.
Starting point is 00:03:28 It's not as good as last week's waiver wire. Just not. And it sucks because this is the do or die week. It's okay, though, because this means you got to ride with who got you there, right? With who brung you. Yeah, but it's always fun when you can find
Starting point is 00:03:44 somebody late in the year that can carry you and there is there's at least one candidate who might be that guy overall or at each position oh at overall one guy who might be able to carry you but it's it's going to take a leap of faith and not worth the fab overspend to get them done can't make it right. That's the guy. The other part of this though, Adam is to, to what you just said,
Starting point is 00:04:11 we're getting some, some healthy bodies back, which is nice. I mean, last week it was Eckler and Mostert this week. It could be Swift and Gaskin. And that's fantastic. If those guys are a hundred percent, especially for Swift,
Starting point is 00:04:20 my gosh, what a great setup for him. Especially if Akeem Hicks is out for the Bears. They couldn't stop anything against the Packers on the ground. So, you know, I think it's a great setup, obviously, to have those two guys back and, you know, Gaskin taking on the Bengals. I mean, let's go. Yeah, that'd be great. And maybe Julio back this week.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Maybe Todd Gurley back this week. Any... Maybe David Johnson back this week, too. Any indication on Kenny Galladay? It'd be nice. It certainly would be nice to have him back
Starting point is 00:04:50 because it ruins two players. It ruins Galladay and it ruins Stafford. Yeah. And in this case, it would just ruin Marvin Jones. We'll take, we'll take that trade off
Starting point is 00:04:58 to get Galladay and Stafford back. All right. So let's talk about the top priorities. We'll discuss the Baltimore situation. If you're not aware, waivers are running tomorrow night and this game, if it's talk about the top priorities. We'll discuss the Baltimore situation.
Starting point is 00:05:07 If you're not aware, waivers are running tomorrow night, and this game, if it's played before Sunday, it's going to count for Week 12. So you do not have finality. You do not have a conclusion to Week 12 yet, and you won't have it until that game is played, unless it keeps getting pushed and pushed and pushed until Sunday or later. And waivers will keep getting pushed and pushed and pushed.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Oh, will they? Yes. Well, they have to have standings. Do you have an option as a commissioner to run waivers tonight if you want to, or do they have to run tomorrow? I would imagine you could do it manually, but I don't think you could do it. Well, at least I can only speak for CBS and what I was told. You would have to do it manually.
Starting point is 00:05:43 They won't process waivers until there are standings for your fantasy league because they can't. What about, right? They wouldn't have the order, but unless they're just using the current order, but, but what like,
Starting point is 00:05:54 okay, so do you have to, as a commissioner, do you have to go into your commissioner tools on CBS and uncheck Tuesday night? No, you don't. They are not running.
Starting point is 00:06:04 CBS is not running waivers on Tuesday night. Okay. So, okay. That's good. Commissioner, fancy player, you know, whatever the case may be, uh, CBS does that for us. All right, good. So they process the waivers, whatever box you have checked. So I play in 20 fantasy leagues, 15 of them or so are on CBS. And two of those leagues run waivers first time Wednesday night. So that is how it's set. The box is clicked for Wednesday. It's not clicked for Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Most of the leagues that we play in together, the waivers run on Tuesday. The box is clicked for Tuesday. If the box is clicked for Tuesday, don't even worry about it. Just make sure the box is clicked for Wednesday. If it's not, that's the key. Oh, it has to be clicked for Tuesday. If the box is clicked for Tuesday, don't even worry about it. Just make sure the box is clicked for Wednesday. If it's not, that's the key. Oh, it has to be clicked for Wednesday. So you have to go in and click it for Wednesday, you're saying? You have to have it checked for Wednesday. Dave had a great tweet about it. Just go check Dave's Twitter feed. You can see what he did. He gave you a simple three-step process. It's very easy to follow. One of the steps is done. So it's more like a two-step process.
Starting point is 00:07:04 All right. I'm going to yes all right i'm gonna do it right now i referenced it for the waiver column it was very succinct just so i don't forget that's really really important you click your little commissioner tools there's a gear and a c at the top right if you're the commissioner go to transaction policies right transaction policies doing it right now yeah and then okay uh well i'm in two fab leagues so if you're in a fab league it says night fab run they're all, so it's already set. Yeah, it should be already set for most people, but it's worth the commissioner just triple checking to make sure.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And if anybody has any other questions about it, tweet me, email me, whatever. Okay, we are here to help. The way that it also works for those of you that do first come, first serve, after waivers run. So I had this question just to make sure I got clarity on it. Tuesday night after 2 a.m. Eastern, which is typically when waivers run in CBS Sports Leagues, it's not first come, first serve.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It's the same as it would be on Wednesday night as it would be on Tuesday night. So if you're a crazy lunatic like me, who's usually up at like 2 a.m. Eastern, and you see waivers go through, and then there's like, oh, why didn't I pick up this guy? like him or this dst for next week or beat the waiver wire any of those things and you don't want to spend any fab um that's typically when you can get some players that you think are going to go through uh you will can still do that wednesday night but you
Starting point is 00:08:17 can't do that tuesday night see you call yourself a crazy lunatic i think that's just you being dedicated to fantasy because i'm waking up every morning at like six and I'm thinking, oh man, I'm up early and I go and check my email and the waiver report is in there. And then right after that, Jamie Isenberg made an ad drop in this league. Jamie Isenberg made an ad drop in that league.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Genius. Jamie's been getting after it for a long, long time, man. That's dedication. It is. Picking up the scraps off the waiver heap. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:42 It really benefits. I think I'm going to move to California so I can be better at fantasy and pick up everybody at two in the morning hawaii you haven't walked to your mailbox you're gonna go to california it'll be a much nicer walk a much better weather before you go to bed yeah you're right all right all right top waiver wire top waiver wire priorities and again we'll come back to the schedule changing. We'll talk a lot about Deshaun Watson and Brandon cooks at this point. And, uh, I'll just say that Randall Cobb is basically a free ad. He's on IR. If you have IR spots, you don't have to drop anyone to pick up Randall Cobb. He's not going to show up in the projections because he's out at least two more weeks. Maybe it's a nothing ad, but it's just stashing someone
Starting point is 00:09:26 and perhaps he comes back in the fantasy playoffs and he's the number two wide receiver for Houston. You don't have to make it your number one priority, but I think stash him in an IR spot if you can. Cam Akers is one of the top priorities. Jamie, who else are we looking at?
Starting point is 00:09:42 I think you've got to look at Devontae Booker and Benny Snell. Again, we're going to probably change that by the time we get to Thursday, potentially change that by the time we get to Wednesday night, I should say. Because if we get positive reports on Josh Jacobs in practice on Wednesday, if he practices
Starting point is 00:09:57 on Wednesday, I think Devontae Booker is off the table. But if he misses practice on Wednesday, which is probably going to be what happens, because why would they make him practice three days after hurting his ankle, which would just look like a horrific injury? Thankfully, you know, the reports are positive. But, I mean, we know how this goes. We know this is a guy that's got an injury track record.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And so last year was a pretty clear indication. You know, he missed three games of the Final Four, and DeAndre Washington was an absolute star. So there are several situations like that. You know, you have, again, we said Myles Gaskin may be coming back. DeAndre Swift may be coming back. If those guys don't come back, you saw what Kerryon Johnson and Adrian Peterson did on Thanksgiving. Wouldn't be an easy matchup for them, but still something that could be productive again, if Akeem Hicks is out. And then if there's no Miles Gaskin back, DeAndre Washington seems to
Starting point is 00:10:41 be the guy that the Dolphins are going to turn to because Matt Brita had a bad fumble against the jets. And Deandre Washington was the one killing the clock. Those guys are at must start options. I look at those other three, uh, acres being, as Dave said, a down the road type of guy, but if Devante booker starting for the Raiders against the jets, he's a must start running back. And if Benny Snell starting for the Steelers, maybe it's Anthony McFarland. I think that's a borderline must start running back against Washington in week 13. What about Frank Gore who no one really wants to start, but I'm at the point in my life where I just want fantasy points on my
Starting point is 00:11:14 team. And I don't care if I'm starting. I don't care if I'm starting one of you guys. I just, I need points and I know he's going to play a lot and I know he's taking on the Raiders. I'm I, I think if,
Starting point is 00:11:26 if I really had to like, if, if divine, I agree with you on all the stuff that you said about Booker and Snell, if they're not worth picking up, if Jacob's practices, if James Connors back,
Starting point is 00:11:36 I'm down to acres and gore as my top two picks. And if you want to throw down very Washington in there too, you can, but I think I feel safest with gore because I know he's going to get a decent workload. He had a couple of flashy runs against Miami and now it's, it's, it's a big workload against the Raiders. I'm kind of excited about adding Frank.
Starting point is 00:11:57 You know, I, I guess, you know, I'm just looking at the order I gave Adam and obviously this is never set in stone. We do the show is I have Gore behind the Falcons guys. I think Gore's a safer option than them if Gurley's out, just looking at their matchup against New Orleans. So yeah, Gore's probably in a better spot than those guys. But for example, if you tell
Starting point is 00:12:13 me Jonathan Taylor's out, I would much rather start Jordan Wilkins against the Texans as the backup guy, quote unquote, than Frank Gore taking on the Raiders. Well, Taylor's supposed to come back, right? Well, we hope so. I mean, you just never know on the Raiders. Well, Taylor's supposed to come back, right? I mean, Taylor's expected. Well, we hope so.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I mean, you just never know with the COVID stuff. Right. We don't know if he was positive or if he was near somebody. He was not positive. To Dave's point, Frank Gore you know is going to play. Right. So if you want, you know, whatever level of production you think he's going to give you, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I just don't think of him as somebody like if Booker starts, if Snell starts, what Akers can be. Again, I'll take Jordan Wilkins over him in that matchup against Texas because they can't stop the run at all. And again, DeAndre Washington, if he's a starter for Miami, I'll take all those guys over Frank Gore as a priority to pick up. But if you're stuck and you just want to make sure you get six or seven non-PPR points and maybe eight to ten PPR points, I'm sure you can take Frank Gore. Okay, I was under the impression that Jonathan Taylor has not tested positive. He was a close contact.
Starting point is 00:13:12 His girlfriend has it. That makes me think he's got a great shot to play. Yeah, I thought I saw that they expect him to play this week, but I will try to confirm that. And then as far as Washington goes, you know, just you did mention the fumble, Jamie, but it looked like Matt Breida was getting the bulk of the carries before Breida fumbled. So I get a little
Starting point is 00:13:32 nervous about Washington because you don't know how that's going to play out if both Ahmed and Gaskin are still out. We do see sometimes a guy gets, Ronald Jones, right? Guy gets benched mid-game for fumbling, comes back and he's the starter the next week. So, you know, you never know how that's going to turn out. Ronald Jones apparently needs 20 touches
Starting point is 00:13:48 a game, according to Bruce Arians. I'm sure he's going to get it. Bruce never lies. And Debo Samuel obviously needs to be part of this discussion. If you're loaded at running back, you don't need Devontae Booker this week. You don't need... I don't know. Who's a better guy to just put on your bench?
Starting point is 00:14:04 Oh, no. Who's a better guy to have rest of season? Better way to phrase it. Devont, Cam Akers, sorry, Cam Akers or Debo Samuel? Debo, and it's not close. I think so, too. Though I don't know if I can count on him to have this type of target volume every single game the rest of the season. Because once Brandon Aiyuk comes back,
Starting point is 00:14:23 and if by some miracle George Kittle comes back, that'll his numbers down but he's so he's so fun to watch and how many catches you have 11 is that right 11 six of the 11 three of them were pop passes literally passes that traveled like a foot right um as he as he had a sweep in front of the quarterback he had two flare outs and one screen so So more than half of his receptions and almost half of his targets were behind the line of scrimmage. But if they keep using him that way, he's the type of receiver
Starting point is 00:14:54 who makes plays after the catch. He's physical. So it's almost like giving a running back the football. And I think a semblance of that role can continue when Ayuk's there. And if Jordan Reed starts to evolve into a bigger part of the offense, I think that that's good.
Starting point is 00:15:14 But if those guys are out, we're talking about double-digit catches every week. Yeah, I don't even care if Ayuk comes back in terms of what Debo could potentially be. He's not going to be this if Ayuk is, but they're used them so differently. I mean, I use more of a downfield option. Samuel is more of a, you know, do what you can with the ball in your hands and be a yak guy, you know? So, uh, they'll use them the same way. I think that they have been using them respectively. We just have not seen it together. We haven't seen it together
Starting point is 00:15:40 without George Kittle. And so that's going to be the interesting part of how this whole puzzle fits. I wouldn't worry about Kittle anytime soon, because I think Kittle. And so that's going to be the interesting part of how this whole puzzle fits. I wouldn't worry about Kittle anytime soon because I think week 16 is the earliest he's going to be back. The one concern would be is what happens if Garoppolo comes back? Is he going to change things for the better or maybe change things for the worse in terms of what those receivers could be? Because Mullens has more of a YOLO mentality than Garoppolo does, at least seemingly. He'll take more chances. And so I hope that's still good for both these receivers.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Well, I'll tell you, Debo Samuel's been, he's had this role for a while. Because his ADOT this year, his average depth of target, is 1.7 yards. It is unbelievable. It makes him extremely efficient. He's catching so many of his, let me see what his catch rate is.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I bet it's over, 77%. And you brought this up last year, Adam. Every time Kittle was out, he was great. Yeah, terrific without Kittle see what his catch rate is. I bet it's 77%. Really? Every time Kittle was out, he was great. Yeah, terrific without Kittle. 77% catch rate. It's not surprising, Dave. They throw it up at the line of scrimmage. No, I thought it would be higher. Last three games, I think it's through the roof. I think it's probably
Starting point is 00:16:37 22 catches on 25 or 26 targets for Debo. That's great in PPR. Very safe for... He's the safest of all the players that we've talked about so far. I don't know if it even makes sense to have a fab conversation at this point.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Does it? I mean, if you need one of these players, you're spending whatever you have to spend if your playoffs are on the line. Yeah, okay. But don't you need to save some of your fab for the playoffs too? I mean, obviously... Yeah, right, right, right, right. So,'t you need to save some of your fab for the playoffs too? I mean, obviously.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yeah, right, right, right, right. So like if you're in the playoffs, you're not spending a lot unless you want to get Debo Samuel. That's the way to put it. Okay. If you're 6-6, it's time to unload. Just real quick. We'll get into it a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:17:20 We'll expand. But give me the quarterbacks and the tight ends you want to pick up this week. Well, Fitzpatrick is number one by far, you know, if he's the starter. That's the part of this that's a little tricky. Again, you know, again, this is where the Wednesday waiver wire scenario comes into play. Because if Tua's practicing, then you're not going to go after Fitzpatrick. But if Tua's out, and if I'm Miami, I'd probably say, Tua, you know, make sure your thumb is right. And we'll get you back in a couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It'd be great to have Fitzpatrick against the Bengals. So he would be number one. And then two through four is interesting because they're all not trustworthy, but all in some pretty good spots. You got Trubisky who his last four games against the lions, 29, 24, 29, 41 fantasy points. Wow. Detroit stinks. He's coming off a strong game fantasy wise. And, but again, is Nick Foles playing or is he not playing? You know,
Starting point is 00:18:09 Matt Nagy sort of said, why not? I believe was his answer when he asked if Trubisky is going to be the starter. That sounds like a guy that's fairly good. I thought he said, I don't see why. I don't see why not.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I thought is what he said. Okay. Yeah, you're right. But I liked your answer better. Why not? You have, you have Trubisky. You got Baker. I like your answer better Why not? What the hell guys?
Starting point is 00:18:26 You have Trubisky, you got Baker Who's got a good matchup against the Titans I think that's going to be a sneaky high scoring game They have, this is a fun stat I know you like this stuff Adam So they've had all but one quarterback Attempt at least 29 passes against them
Starting point is 00:18:42 Can you name the one? This is who? Which team? The Titans. No. Ben Roethlisberger. No. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Roethlisberger threw a ton against them. Ben threw a lot against them. Yeah. I don't know. What's the number? It'll be a multiple choice. Was it A, Kirk Cousins, B, Lamar Jackson, C, none of the above? B.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I was going to say Jackson. Kirk Cousins, 27 pass attempts against the Tennessee Titans. Lamar Jackson was 29. So Baker, his last two games with over 28 pass attempts. Hey. He's been 22 or more fantasy points. Just got to check the weather. That's all.
Starting point is 00:19:31 You got to check the weather. Make sure they have horrible weather. But you got Trubisky, Baker, and Phillip Rivers, who the Texans, I didn't realize this because I think we typically think of them as a bad pass defense. No, they're good. They haven't allowed multiple passing touchdowns to a quarterback since week seven.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Mm-hmm. But? Well, they've given up three of the last four 295 passing yards or more. But? Oh, Bradley Robey, we know. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that really matters. I mean, he was out two games ago, too.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah, okay. The yards are important, though. Or three games ago, excuse me. Touchdowns, I guess, could come and go. But, yeah, they have a bad defense. Let's face it. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know. This is a game where, especially if Jonathan Taylor plays,
Starting point is 00:20:12 the Colts, I think, go back to ground and pound and just run all over the Texans because they can't stop the run. Right. But that's the concern with Rivers because he's been a mess. But he does have 21 or more fantasy points in four of his last six and two in a row. And the tight ends. They're all kind of in that boat of, you know, like you're replacing Brady this week. does have 21 or more fantasy points in four of his last six and two of the two in a row so and the tight end is in that boat of if you're you know like you're replacing brady this week if you're
Starting point is 00:20:29 if you need a bi-week option if you're still trying to manage the drew brie scenario if you don't trust jared goff or carson wentz or any of those guys you've been starting which i certainly can understand that uh these are all guys that are in play well how about if you don't trust kyler murray or russell wilson or josh right now. Not benching those guys for the year. Okay. So what about tight end? Dave, give me a... Unless you tell me Kyler's shoulder is shot. I did not like his answer when he was
Starting point is 00:20:53 asked about his shoulder. It was very evasive and... I mean, if you watch the game, it kind of told you. I didn't see enough of it to comment. Didn't run a ton and he didn't throw downfield a ton. Yeah. So it's almost like they've regressed to a worse spot
Starting point is 00:21:09 where they were earlier in the season. Because earlier in the year, they weren't really challenging downfield that much either. But at least Kyler was running. In my two Kyler leagues, I think that for the first time this year, other than his bye week, I think I am going to be looking to pick up a quarterback
Starting point is 00:21:21 just to give myself the option, you know, and see how the week unfolds a little bit. But I would like to put Ryan Fitzpatrick on those teams and, and give him, and like I said, give myself the option to, to go in another direction. I guess,
Starting point is 00:21:35 I'm sorry to back up. I thought we were talking about the other three guys. Fitzpatrick is definitely in play ahead of those guys. Oh yeah. I don't have it ranked that way, but I can certainly see where you're coming from, Adam, that if you want to get away from Watson, you want to get away from Kyler, maybe Josh yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have it ranked that way, but I can certainly see where you're coming from, Adam, that if you want to get away from Watson,
Starting point is 00:21:45 you want to get away from Kyler, maybe Josh Allen also, then you can look at Fitzpatrick. What about Wilson? You don't put him in that group? Not, no, because I think, you know, he's still healthy, and the Giants defense, I think their strength is still in the run defense. I got to tell you, this feels like the type of week where we all
Starting point is 00:22:08 rush to Ryan Fitzpatrick and he just lays an egg. It happens like once a year. Hasn't happened though with Miami very often though. I know. I know, but it didn't happen last year. There wasn't a game last year where we were all over him. I'm sure there was.
Starting point is 00:22:24 John A. Parker left with an injury in the first quarter against the Jets, and he struggled. But once he got going, he pretty much didn't, and he's been 20 points or more every week except for week one. I think the big concern you would have is they'd run all over the Bengals, but their run game is in shambles right now. That'll make you feel better about starting Fitzpatrick. He's also in the YOLO
Starting point is 00:22:45 mode of, you know, he said this when he got benched. He said, I guess I just started my last NFL game. And then he got a gift to play against the Jets again. I'm sure he's looking at this as, and I was listening to an interview with a local sports writer, not a guy that covers the team, but a local
Starting point is 00:23:02 sports writer that was talking about, he was watching a conversation between Fitzpatrick and Tua on the sidelines I guess two weeks ago and was saying like he's Fitzpatrick's trying to show Tua the way he plays and Tua's like you know I don't play that way you know Fitzpatrick and I heard him in the interview process in the interview after the Jets game saying how he loves throwing to Parker because he's one of the best receivers he's ever played with at 50-50 balls that's not not Tua's game. Tua is so used to playing in Alabama where everybody's wide open and he anticipates, you know, throws. Fitzpatrick's not a guy that anticipates throws. He just puts the ball in places where he gives his receivers a chance
Starting point is 00:23:37 to make plays. And so that's why I think like Fitzpatrick's obviously better for Parker. But in Fitzpatrick's mind, how he approaches the game, I think he's going to go out there and have a good game. Okay. All right. We got to get to tight ends here. So Dave, give me a few tight ends. I've got a list.
Starting point is 00:23:55 It's not necessarily the preferred order. Happy to hash it out with everybody, but Dalton Schultz is at the top only because he's taking on the Ravens. We don't know what the Ravens defense is going to look like by the time that that game happens, whatever month that's in the he's first Logan Thomas,
Starting point is 00:24:09 the second against Steelers. Don't really love that matchup either. I love Austin Hooper's matchup against Tennessee, but it's Austin Hooper. And he's basically a touchdown or bust tight end. Other guys are Jordan Reed, Trey Burton here to here to tight ends where, well,
Starting point is 00:24:24 let's see what you did. Let's see what you name the guy that Jamie has number one. You haven't done it yet. Well, there's two for me, and maybe neither of the guys are who Jamie has. Kyle Rudolph is one. Hey, there you go. It's contingent on whether or not Adam Thielen plays and whether or not Irv Smith plays,
Starting point is 00:24:39 so you've got to see if they practice on Wednesday. And number two is Jordan Akins, who has a little bit of a downfield element to his game for Houston. Dropped a touchdown last week. That was ugly. Maybe someone in deeper leagues that you speculate on. Okay. So Jamie likes Rudolph the best, but would you agree with that?
Starting point is 00:24:58 I would like Rudolph the best, too, if we knew that those guys were out. Okay. Yeah, for me, it doesn't really matter so much with Thielen. It obviously helps if Thielen's not there, but Irv Smith, the last two times that he's missed, he's got at least six targets in both those games, and he's taking on Jacksonville. They stink. They stink, but actually, they've gotten
Starting point is 00:25:13 so much better. I don't think it's like five or six weeks in a row where it's less than 35 yards. No tight end is more than... What'd you say? Sorry. You're saying the same thing about the Bengals and their defensive tight ends too. Yeah. Jacksonville's allowed nine touchdowns
Starting point is 00:25:28 to tight ends on the season, two in their past four games. Yeah, I know. I feel a lot better about Rudolph's role. I feel okay about it if Irv Smith isn't out there. I feel really good about it if Adam Thielen isn't out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I mean, he's still the guy I'm going to go to first if we get practice reports on Wednesday that Smith's not there. And here's the thing. So to somebody that is just not trustworthy, you know, he's had one good game since Dalton took over and it was the late touchdown two weeks ago. Um, I can't, I can't buy into him, uh, against Baltimore, which is going to seemingly get some guys back, whether they get everybody back, uh, who knows, but you know, that's a defense that I think is going to be very pissed off and angry after what's
Starting point is 00:26:02 happened to them facing that Dallas offensive line, which is a disaster. So yeah, Schultz is off the table for me. Hooper I like a lot. I think that's a good call. He showed some life in some better weather last week. He led them in targets two weeks ago or receptions two weeks ago. Thomas is a good call. Akins is a good call.
Starting point is 00:26:19 But Dalton Schultz is not somebody I'm picking up. That's fine. The other thing I would say is if you go for Rudolph on Wednesday and by Friday it's Irv Smith's back and Adam Thielen's back and you're not feeling confident enough to start Rudolph, literally you can take any of the other names that I told you.
Starting point is 00:26:36 At least one or two of them will be on the waiver wire still. So you can drop Rudolph if you don't want to use him and go and get one of those other guys. There are so many traps at tight end. I mean, it's just... It's not good. There are cases to be made for all of them,
Starting point is 00:26:52 cases to be made against them. Jordan Reed looks like he has a really good matchup. I don't think Milano is coming back this week. Buffalo hasn't allowed a touchdown to a tight end in their past five games. But they've seen a lot of bad tight ends. Yeah, they still give up the eighth most fantasy points to tight ends. Maybe he's 10 points in a PPR.
Starting point is 00:27:10 18 yards last week. I don't know. Tight ends, I hope you have a good one. Maybe Robert Tunyon's available. He's coming on strong. Maybe Zach Ertz is available. Mike Kosicki, he's 73% on. Maybe he's available.
Starting point is 00:27:20 That'd be really nice. And yes, Jamie. It's kind of contingent, though, on Fitzpatrick. Yeah, and I'm expecting Fitzpatrick right now. But it's the same thing. The Bengals and the Jaguars, they both stink against tight ends, but they're both getting better, giving up fewer yards, except last week Evan Ingram had 129 yards against the Bengals,
Starting point is 00:27:40 whereas Austin Hooper had just two targets, 13 yards, scored a touchdown at Jacksonville. Okay, guys, a lot to get to. We've got to talk about this Ravens situation. By the way, Gus Edwards, if you picked him up last week, that seemed like it was literally a week ago. Well, J.K. Dobbins and Mark Ingram are both eligible to play on Wednesday, so that's weird.
Starting point is 00:28:02 But, Dave, it's been a stressful week. All this news, all this craziness, tweets, podcasts, HQ. You've had a busy, busy week. You, my friend, need a moment to chill. What do you reach for when you need to chill? I reach for the mountain cold refreshment of Coors Light.
Starting point is 00:28:22 It's made to chill. And this has been a go, go, go type of week, man. There has not been a break at all. A friend of the podcast tweeted me and said, man, covering the NFL, it feels like it's a full-time job this week. I'm like, you don't say. It's really how it kind of goes every week during the football season. It's kind of what I've been doing for the last 15 years.
Starting point is 00:28:41 So when I did get a break this week, of course, I hit my patio and popped open a nice cold Coors Light. It was delicious. It was clean. I didn't have that gross aftertaste that I've had when I've drafted. When I've selected a craft beer in round one of my, I want to have a different type of beer league. Wow, that was bad. Love those leagues. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know what leagues are great? The ones where you just don't have to think about the picks and your number one overall choice is Coors Light.
Starting point is 00:29:11 That's what I did. And it was perfect. It was a perfect way to end my weekend and start getting ready for the next week. All right. So that's the beer that Dave chooses when he needs to unwind. When you want to hit reset,
Starting point is 00:29:22 reach for the beer that's made to chill. Get Coors Light in the new look delivered straight to your door at get.coorslight.com. G-E-T, get.coorslight.com. Celebrate responsibly. Coors Brewing Company, Golden, Colorado. So Baltimore, Pittsburgh tomorrow at 3.40 p.m. Eastern. Wednesday afternoon's a great day. Mark Ingram, J.K. Dobbins are going to be eligible. So, yeah, like, who... Are you going to start Dobbins coming off that exciting game? Like, let's say
Starting point is 00:29:54 you picked up Edwards or you have Benny Snell or something like that, and you also have J.K. Dobbins. I guess, who's the best running back in this game now? There's a league where I've got Edwards and Dobbins. I'm going to have to start one of them. What are you going to do? I think I might pivot to Dobbins because they need playmakers,
Starting point is 00:30:13 the Ravens, on offense. They're missing their biggest one. Yeah. Again, it feels like a long time ago, but last Sunday night, we were talking about how this might have been J.K. Dobbins' launching point. They seem to have given him the role. Two Sunday nights.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Well, right, eight, nine days ago. Right. Pittsburgh, Washington in week 13 is now Monday at 5 p.m. and Baltimore, Dallas is now Tuesday at 8 p.m. next week. And this allows Lamar Jackson to get back
Starting point is 00:30:44 in time for that game. They're a COVID list. I mean, they're front seven. Calais Campbell, Brandon Williams, Pernell McPhee, Matt Judon, all on the COVID list. So they could be a much, much different defense. And to be honest with you, I don't know who's eligible to come back tomorrow other than
Starting point is 00:30:59 Dobbins and Edwards. That's the only one that's been reported. Yeah, they've got such key pieces on defense. I hope they can get healthy and at least give us a good game. I know Jackson won't be there. It's been an emotional rollercoaster for the Ravens. It's been an emotional rollercoaster the last three weeks in the same fantasy league for young Ben.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Ben Schrager, Schraggy B, Swagger Schrager, Schrager Jagger. I don't know if I get all the nicknames I have. I should just stop now. Okay, yeah. Ben, what is going on in your home league? Yeah, DeAndre Hopkins, miracle touchdown. I win two points. Travis Kelsey scores the touchdown last week.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Carthor's interception. I win by one point. Last night, I'm up by 2.5 points with the Seahawks defense, and I lose on what was that Richard Rogers miracle catch that meant nothing. Yeah, it's been a rough week, but the previous two weeks were pretty nice to me.
Starting point is 00:31:54 That is wild man for the Hail Mary the interception by Derek Carr in desperation mode and then the touchdown by Richard Rogers to decide your league all by two or fewer points three weeks in a row. That's why fantasy football is fun, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And Twitch is also fun. Join us tonight, 8 p.m. Eastern, for some Waver Wire talk. Twitch.com slash FFToday. And make sure you're watching HQ if you don't see the noon show. Today, tomorrow, and Thursday, it's at 1 p.m., actually.
Starting point is 00:32:23 So if you... Thursday is at 1.30 p.m. We're going to do an extended NFL pregame show that will have some fantasy elements to it. Wednesday or Thursday? Wednesday, I'm sorry. Wednesday, okay. So 1, 1.30, 1?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Is that what you're saying? Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday? I don't know Thursday's time yet. Okay. Stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen. Yes. You can follow Jamie on Twitter. He'll let you know.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And you can watch it on demand if you miss it on the CBS Sports app on OTT devices. Go to the CBS Sports app. Scroll down until you see the familiar faces of fantasy football today. All right. So finally, let's talk about Will Fuller here. He's been suspended for six games
Starting point is 00:33:02 for violating the PED policy. What does this mean for Deshaun Watson? What does it mean for Brandon Cooks, Dave? It's not good. We're talking about a guy who represented about a quarter of Watson's completions, a quarter of his yards, and a third of his touchdowns. He was a huge, huge piece of the Texans offense. He stayed healthy all year. Maybe this is why, or this is how. now we know why he didn't get traded. But it, it, it definitely takes away the biggest element of this Texans passing and that we all saw on Thanksgiving and that's the deep ball defenses can defend them a lot differently.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Now I'm not quite sure Brandon cooks can do that type of thing. He's been very good as a mid range type of receiver. So he's taken advantage of Fuller taking the top off of opposing defenses. I'm almost certain that we're going to see defenses play them a heck of a lot differently now. It's going to make it harder on Deshaun Watson for sure. And there's going to be interesting Kiki QT off the waiver wire. And Cobb is a great call, Adam. And Isaiah Coulter is another name that people might keep in mind but it's just not going to be the same type of offense without Fuller there I wonder
Starting point is 00:34:09 if they bring back Kenny Stills I mean you know they just let him go I don't know if that even would would change a lot I don't think that would give that doesn't breathe enough life back into Deshaun Watson oh no where is he top three quarterback where is he like rest of season he's what top 12 Watson yeah he's still top 10 for me I mean I think you'll see him do enough with his legs he's gonna go from a 27 to 30 type of guy to a 20 to 24 type of guy you know so um schedule gets tougher you know we'll see if DeForest Buckner plays that's a big piece for that Colts defense who he's got this week um and Autry and you know as well so uh we saw what Ryan Tannehill was able to do.
Starting point is 00:34:46 You know, Watson having to make plays with his legs, he's going to have to get more out of Brandon Cooks, more to Aikens, more to QT. You know, I'm sure they'll have to involve their running backs a little bit more. They got creative with the play to Duke Johnson, you know, maybe they do something similar like that. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:00 he's still a running quarterback that has enough potential with his limited receiving core to still be a starting fantasy quarterback in most leagues. Well, look, he is playing so unbelievably well. I want to give you some context here. Will Fuller, by the way, on a per game basis, is the number six wide receiver in non-PPR, number 10 in PPR. Oh, per game. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah, per game, per game. He has 879 yards and eight touchdowns on 75 targets. Brandon Cooks, for the year, Brandon Cooks is the number 39 wide receiver on a per game basis. But since week, in his last seven games, when he really got going, he's top 12. He has been terrific.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And on pace for 96 yards, over 96 catches, over 1,300 yards, seven touchdowns in his last seven games. So Cooks has been great. Fuller, both of them top 12 wide receivers over that seven-game stretch. Watson, slow start. First three weeks, slow start. Since week four, here are
Starting point is 00:35:55 your QB leaders in terms of six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues and their fantasy points. Mahomes is one, 238. Watson, 237. Herbert, 238. Watson, 237. Herbert, 234. Murray, 234. Rogers, 227.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Brady, 225. And Wilson, actually, not really that close because his best three weeks were pretty much his first three weeks. So since then, you know, Mahomes and Watson are tied. Mahomes has one more fantasy point. That's how good Watson has been since week four. So it's disappointing.
Starting point is 00:36:29 But he's played so well. Hopefully he can do what Aaron Rodgers did and, you know, be good without Devontae Adams. But it's the Colts. Remember when I said about Watson at the beginning of the season that I thought he was going to have an MVP campaign? Yeah. Or preseason if those two guys stayed healthy, Fuller and Cooks. And we said it was going to be tough start to the season, obviously with that schedule.
Starting point is 00:36:47 He's been amazing. It's a shame that the Texans are where they are because he would be in the MVP conversation if they were a playoff caliber team. And he, you know, for what it's worth, he's played them back into, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:57 back end contention. They're not going to make it by any stretch because their schedule is so tough and their defense is not good. They'd have to win out to have a chance. They'd have to win out to have a chance. They have to get to 97 and hope for a lot of things to happen, but he's, he's played at an MVP pace.
Starting point is 00:37:09 You know, he's justifying his contract. He's, you know, justifying the fact that he can get by without Deandre Hopkins, but he can't get by to the same level without Hopkins and Fuller. It's just unfortunate. And for Fuller,
Starting point is 00:37:19 you know, for dynasty purposes, this is really tough to gauge now because he's going to miss the first two games of next year. He's a free agent going into this off season. You know, I mean, this is really, you know, tough to gauge now because he's going to miss the first two games of next year. He's a free agent going into this off season. You know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:37:28 this, this benefits the Texans because they could probably get a, a hometown discount. You know, if he wants to stay there, which I hope he does, because you see what the rapport is. And by the way,
Starting point is 00:37:38 if whatever he was taking allowed him to do this, sign me up. That should allow me to do it again. All right. Well, we, we do have to get back? Sign me up. And the bell should allow him to do it again. All right. Well, we do have to get back to the waiver wire. I'd love to talk more about this. Maybe tomorrow we will. But will you start...
Starting point is 00:37:53 Look, he's got the Colts, Bears, and Colts in his next three games, Deshaun Watson. Will you pick up Ryan Fitzpatrick and start Fitzpatrick over Watson this week? I'm not there. I can't do that. No, but if you tell... Well, Fitzpatrick got a tough match. They get Kansas City in week 14.
Starting point is 00:38:17 If Watson struggles this week to a level of just awful, awful football, then you got to panic. But this week, I think you're still starting, especially if the Colts don't have those two guys in Buckner and Autry. Give me your top three at each position. I'll give you some more news and notes real quick. Josh Jacobs waiting on his ankle. It's a sprained ankle, not as severe as we first thought.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Could see Gurley and Julio back this week. Bruce Arian said Ronald Jones needs to have 20 touches. Daniel Jones likely to miss some time. He has an outside shot of playing this week against the Seahawks, but you should expect Colt McCoy. Mitchell Trubisky likely to start. I. He has an outside shot of playing this week against the Seahawks, but you should expect Colt McCoy, Mitchell Trubisky likely to start. I don't see why not. X-rays were negative on DJ Moore's ankle,
Starting point is 00:38:51 but we don't know if he'll be available after the bye week. The 49ers are going to play their next two games in Arizona. They're not allowed to play in their home state or in their hometown, rather. Joe Mixon could be back in week 14. I think they're playing three of their next four in Arizona because they play the Cardinals on the road.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Oh, that's interesting. I was wondering what locker room they're going to get when they're playing three of their next four in Arizona because they play the Cardinals on the road. Oh, that's interesting. I was wondering what locker room they're going to get when they're the home team in Arizona. That's kind of... Probably the home locker room. You'd think.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Or maybe they'll set something else up. I don't know. Joe Mixon, people are asking, should I drop Joe Mixon? There was a report he could be back next week,
Starting point is 00:39:20 so don't do it just yet. We haven't talked about this, but Daryl Bevel is the interim head coach for Detroit as they fired Matt Patricia. You see what happened to him this weekend? Daryl Bevel? Yes. No, I did not. Totally funny. So he has two daughters or at least two daughters and both of their boyfriends asked him for their hand in marriage. No way. The same weekend that he was promoted to interim head coach.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And then he announced that to the media before the guys could actually propose. That is the best week weekend of his life. And it was Thanksgiving. I mean, that's tremendous. What a week for Daryl Bevel. Okay. So let's just give me,
Starting point is 00:40:05 let's go top three at each position real quick. Then we'll do the Eagles and Seahawks game and the drop-o-meter. And then we'll get even further into the waiver wire, but just so we don't go any longer without saying names that we need to say. And we've talked about a lot of names today. Top three quarterbacks are Fitzpatrick followed by. Trubisky and Baker for me, Dave. I have the same order.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Okay. Top three running backs are. Well, as of now, Chbisky and Baker for me. Dave? I have the same order. Okay. Top three running backs are? Well, as of now, they are Devante Booker, Benny Snell, and Cam Akers. For me, it would be Booker, Snell, Gore. If I needed a running back for week 13, it's Gore. If I wanted to speculate, it's Akers.
Starting point is 00:40:46 In fact, if I really just wanted to speculate and I didn't need a running back for week 13 at score, if I wanted to speculate, it's Akers. In fact, if I really just wanted to speculate and I didn't need a running back for week 13, I would assume that Jacobs and Connor would be back eventually anyway, and Akers would be first on the list. Okay. Wide receiver, we've really only talked about Debo Samuel, so who else? It's Debo one.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I'm going to go back to Tim Patrick two, and then Kiki Kuti just to see what happens there. Three. Wow. I don't even feel good about my second and third options. I don't feel good about Tim Patrick because I don't think it's going to be true lock. If it's lock then sure. I would not be drew lock because they're signing Pat
Starting point is 00:41:18 Schirmer's kid like they obviously have some sort of concern about who they're going to have available to play quarterback this week. I would assume that it would be Locke. He's not starting. I would be too, but why are they signing Pat Shurmur's coach? They're mad. They are considering punishing these quarterbacks for putting them in that situation that they were in last week.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I don't know what that exactly means, but they are openly discussing how disappointed they are in their three quarterbacks. Right. Drew Locke issued an apology. Yeah. So Patrick with Locke, of course. Why of course? He hasn't really been that good. No, just because we know Denver's going to have to throw a ton against Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Locke will over-target him. Hopefully it'll result in some good numbers. I mean, he's a distant second to Debo Samuel, to put it in perspective. Of course. Almost everybody that we're talking about is a distant second to Debo Samuel. I kind of like, not this week,
Starting point is 00:42:15 but if Daniel Jones gets healthy, I mean, I really think Sterling Shepard, you got to have him in PPR leagues. We just don't know if he's going to be healthy, though. I mean, he could be great with McCoy. He was initially the guy I had second, but it's just so hard to trust with McCoy. I don't mind him with McCoy, but I just feel like
Starting point is 00:42:30 his ceiling is 12 PPR points and his floor is 10 PPR points. It's totally three receiver PPR. It just feels like what about Jacoby Myers? Jacoby Myers, 60% rostered. And, you know, let me go back to this because Myers faces the Chargers this week.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Chris Harris came off IR last week for the Chargers, and did he just shut down Cole Beasley? Is that what happened? Is that what's going to happen to Jacoby Myers? They made things tough on both their receivers in Buffalo. Sure did, unless Beasley was throwing a touchdown pass. Yeah, so maybe it's a bad matchup for Myers. I don't know if he's going to see Chris Harris.
Starting point is 00:43:07 They also got a hell of a game out of Bosa that affected Josh Allen. All right. Well, look, wide receiver's tough. Wide receiver's tough this week. Hopefully, maybe there's Corey Davis available or something like that. That's the thing. There's guys in that range that are— Like, Lazard just misses the cut.
Starting point is 00:43:23 If he's available, I mean, he looks great against the Bears. Top three tight ends. He's got the Eagles now. Right. There you go. Top three tight ends. Kyle Rudolph for me would be one. Austin Hooper would be two.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And number three would be Logan Thomas. I would start the week with Rudolph as your number one guy. Thomas would be second for me. Hooper would be third. I would start the week with Rudolph as your number one guy. Thomas would be second for me. Hooper would be third. I am off the... Schultz would be behind those guys. I'm not going to say that he's off the table for me, but the offensive line is an obvious issue for Dallas
Starting point is 00:43:55 that you got to figure out. If you have Evan Ingram, are you pivoting to a waiver wire guy? No, because I think that's one guy Colt McCoy will definitely know. Okay. And DSTs. Let's get some DSTs. Yeah, another crappy position for this
Starting point is 00:44:10 week because a lot of the good ones are already picked up. But the Bears against the Lions. I mean, we've seen what this Detroit offense looks like without Gallaudet there. The Raiders against the Jets because it's the Jets. And the Vikings against the Jaguars because it's the Jaguars. Where were the Chiefs ranked? I got the Chiefs in there too, just because of the Broncos quarterback situation.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I think the Chiefs are too unavailable. They're like 68-ish or something, so they just missed the cut. But where would they rank? That was going to be my question. They're top 10. Would they rank ahead of Chicago and Las Vegas and Minnesota? Over Chicago, yes.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Raiders, no. Yeah. Actually, I think I have the Bears ahead of the Raiders, too. But here's the thing, guys. We don't know who's calling plays for the Jets, so we don't have that competitive advantage. What an idiot. And the kickers, who are the kickers, David?
Starting point is 00:44:55 Can you imagine they're considering keeping that guy? They're not. They're not. You say that, but that's not what the NFL circles are saying. There's no way. I will bet anything. If I'm Trevor Lawrence, I'm staying in school. Or I'm pushing my way out of this.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I'll bet anything. There's no way Adam Gase is back. I'm with you, but it's just weird to hear. I mean, Joe Douglas likes him. They're buddies. Then fire him, too. Yeah. He's been good.
Starting point is 00:45:18 They haven't won a game. How many games have they even been competitive in? Joe Douglas has made some great moves. I agree. But if one of his next great moves is let's stick with Adam Gase, then I question it. Yeah, this is where friendship has to end.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Right. They can still be friends. I don't care. What is more likely? Steelers go 16-0 or Jets go 0-16? Jets go 0-16. Oh, easy. Jets.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Steelers have a pretty easy schedule. Listen, I think both could happen. I don't see. Maybe at New England. Maybe Las Vegas this week. No, no, no. I'm talking about the Jets. Maybe Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:45:53 This might be their best chance to win. This is absolutely their last best chance. It's kind of why I'm a little queasy about the Jets, the Raiders DST. Steelers don't have the... And plus they stink. Okay, the Steelers have the Ravens, but I think they should
Starting point is 00:46:05 beat them, given the circumstances. Washington, on a short week, but should win. At Buffalo, could be tough. At Cincinnati,
Starting point is 00:46:13 Indianapolis, at Cleveland. All right, the Steelers could trip up. All right, sorry, guys. Got distracted. Kickers, Jamie? Again, not another list
Starting point is 00:46:21 where there's a lot of great options out there, but Nick Folk against the Chargers, Matt Gay against the Cardinals and Greg Zerline against the Ravens. Cool. We'll take a break on fantasy football today. We'll come right back.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Recap last night's game. Dig deeper into the waiver wire. Whether in the game or in life, the right coverage can make all the difference. Securian Canada gives you that coverage for more than 65 years, Securian Canada has been helping Canadians build secure tomorrows. Their insurance solutions are designed to help protect you and your loved ones financially, giving you the peace of mind to focus on what truly matters. Find their products through banks, credit unions, and associations,
Starting point is 00:47:00 or visit SecurianCanada.ca. Securian Canada, Insurance designed for life. Seattle 23 and Philadelphia 17. This is a game that has a lot to unpack, I think, from a fantasy standpoint here. Okay, so I'm going to fire away with a bunch of questions. One, are you concerned about Chris Carson's workload? Go.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yes. No. Carson played 37 percent of the snaps Carlos Hyde played 61 percent of the snaps Hyde was in there quite a bit early on I am checking the fourth quarter game log just to get an exact idea of how many touches those guys had Hyde had seven carries for four yards in the fourth quarter and Carson had one. So they, I think they were just splitting a little bit too much for my liking earlier in the game. And it ended up with Hyde just closing out the game.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Those are carries. I would have preferred Carson to get first game back from an extended absence for a guy with a foot injury. That's got an injury track record. They were well ahead in this game. They were giving Hyde the chance to close out the game. I'm not concerned at all about Chris Carson. The injury thing
Starting point is 00:48:08 is valid, but even when it was a tight game, there was a lot of Carlos Hyde. Early on, it was a little discouraging. Then you watched how Chris Carson ran compared to what Carlos Hyde ran. That's true. I think it's just a matter of they get to next week and it's Chris Carson's backfield again.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I'm not concerned at all. He's a top-ten running back for me once again. But they've got a matchup against the to next week and it's Chris Carson's backfield again. I'm not concerned at all. He's a top ten running back for me once again. But they've got a matchup against the Giants and it's not an easy matchup to begin with. And I doubt that the Giants with Colt McCoy are going to put up a lot of points against the Seahawks. We could see something similar play out next week. They might be saving Carson for when they really, really need him. And that's
Starting point is 00:48:40 when they unleash him. Yeah, they got to win the division and get, you know, some semblance of a first round by. I get it, but... A first round bye. I get it. All right, all right, all right. It's cool. I got more for you here.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Miles Sanders. How concerned are you about Miles Sanders? More concerned about him. I mean, you know, this offensive line stinks. This offense stinks. You know, this is a telling week
Starting point is 00:49:00 because the Packers are terrible against the run. You know, I mean, they made David Montgomery look like a star last week again. So I'm still starting Miles Sanders, but he's not a top 10 running back for me. He's in the top 15.
Starting point is 00:49:10 If you tell me Jonathan Taylor is out, I'm going to start Naheem Hines over Miles Sanders. I told you Josh Jacobs were out. Would you start Devontae Booker over Miles Sanders? I would start Devontae Booker over him if you tell me Josh Jacobs is out. If they don't use Miles Sanders properly against the Packers, then fire everyone. it's up. Okay. If they don't use Miles Sanders properly against the Eagles,
Starting point is 00:49:26 against the Packers, then fire everyone. Okay? Like, Carson Wentz is so bad. It seems like Doug Peterson is trying to get fired. It's ridiculous. Like,
Starting point is 00:49:32 Carson Wentz, they cannot throw the ball, so stop throwing the ball. It's like a little bit of an idea for you. Okay. He got into a little bit of a rhythm at the end
Starting point is 00:49:39 of the first half and the beginning of the third quarter, but it just was awful everything else around that. And his decision at the end of the game, A, why Peterson didn't kick a field goal around that and his decision at the end of the game,
Starting point is 00:49:46 a Y Peterson, they kick a field goal at that point when it's fourth and four. And then when, I don't know what he was thinking that throw. Which is out in the middle of field. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Tyler Lockett, three catches for 23 yards on four targets. He now has 67 or fewer yards in seven of his last eight games. Of course, the outlier was 200 yards and three touchdowns. Is Tyler Lockett still a must start? I wish the Seahawks actually moved to Arizona
Starting point is 00:50:14 because anytime the Cardinals are involved, Tyler Lockett is a star. Yeah. Well, I guess that's just when DK Metcalf isn't destroying everyone. Right. So maybe Bradbury against Metcalf. Russell goes a little bit. I mean, I'm still starting Tyler Lockett. Yeah. There's too much upside to ignore. You know what he's capable of doing when he gets the opportunity to do it. And last question. Can Darius Slay cover DK Metcalf one-on-one? Well, what's your definition of cover?
Starting point is 00:50:48 Run with him? Yeah, be in the same, I guess, general vicinity. Be like a fly on the back of his jersey? Actually, better last question is your thoughts on Russell Wilson. Because now, let's look at his fantasy points in his last four games. 25 at Buffalo, 9 at the Rams, 23 against Arizona, 16 at Philadelphia, threw 31 passes in this game.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Not like he played poorly or anything. He just didn't get the numbers. Right. What do you think? I mean... He was a yard away from another touchdown with DK Metcalf, you know, falling down at the 1.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I'm still starting Russell Wilson. He's a top three quarterback for me this week against the Giants. I'd rather have him than Deshaun Watson. Yes. Okay. The drop-o-meter, folks. Who are we dropping?
Starting point is 00:51:30 Zero to 10. Mike Davis. Zero. You can't drop him. You don't know what's going to for sure happen with McCaffrey starting in week 14. Christian Kirk. Six. Three. Christian Kirk. Six. Three.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Mike Williams. Zero. Five. JD McKissick. Zero. PPR. And a non-PPR. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Cam Newton. At the Chargers this week. I would say he's like a seven on the drop-o-meter. What'd you say, Jamie, for Cam? Okay. Cam Newton at the Chargers this week. I would say he's like a seven on the drop-o-meter. What'd you say, Jamie, for Cam? Two. Zach, you guys are not on the same page today. All right, that's good.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Zach Moss, Devin Singletary. Zero. Just to have the bench depth. Three for both. Okay. Jamison Crowder. eight in non-ppr three and a half in ppr this is this is such a i mean he gotta he's gotta play well this week the raiders are so bad uh it's almost like donald saw what flacco did and was like oh i want to do that too and he threw a little bit longer to mims yeah i mean you know donald's got to put things on tape for himself
Starting point is 00:52:46 at this point because he's not going to be with the Jets next year. He's probably trying to show teams he can throw downfield. Maybe I need to make sure I say this because I'm going to forget. Maybe Brashad Perryman should be the number two wide receiver on waivers. I have him on the list. It's just a matter of can you trust him? Is he better than Mims?
Starting point is 00:53:04 They both have the same targets. Yeah, I think he's better than Mims. He's been better. I kind of like what I saw from Mims. I've liked what I've seen from both these guys, but I might trust Mims a little more because he's not just a, like, I feel like Perriman is very much a deep ball guy. And Mims can do that,
Starting point is 00:53:20 but he's also proving himself on crossing routes and mid-range stuff. And I think that's better for Darnold. So I'm sorry. Jameson Crowder, 0-10 drop-up meter. I'm going to give him one more week. Darius Slayton. 8. That's like a 5 in
Starting point is 00:53:40 non-PPR and a 6 in PPR. Sterling Shepard. 0. Adam. Yeah, 0 in PPR. Sterling Shepard. Zero. Adam. Yeah, zero in PPR. Colt McCoy. Zero. No, it's a drop-o-meter. Ten. No, I mean, it's Colt McCoy for Sterling Shepard, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:57 Johnnie Smith. Again, we just don't know how long that's going to be. Yeah. Johnnie Smith. Oh, it's discouraging. He played a lot and he didn't even see a target he's definitely droppable you've got to put him in at least like seven i'll give him another week last one uh well a combo t higgins would you give him another week in your starting lineup though yeah i mean the only guy i would start over him if he's the starters, Rudolph. T.E. Higgins and Tyler Boyd.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Zero. Zero. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize they had such great games that were so inspired. Well, again, I want to see one more week what happens. Okay. All right, then. Waiver wire.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I'll put it this way. If you see Tyler Boyd and T.E. Higgins on the waiver wire and you can't get Deebo Samuel, those guys are better than everybody else that we've talked about. Yeah, right. That's true. Tyler Boyd or T. Higgins on the waiver wire and you can't get Debo Samuel, those guys are better than everybody else that we talked about. Yeah, right. That's true. Tyler Boyd or a Jet? Probably Boyd, but
Starting point is 00:54:51 that's a bad team. Boy, they're awful. Boyd did have an end zone target late in the game, drew a bad pass interference call, but at least he had that. Good for him. Quarterbacks. I mean, you know, it's not like he was bad. He called five of his targets. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:08 So, yeah, we've given you the scoop on the skinny on the quarterbacks, but we didn't mention Ryan Tannehill and Kirk Cousins. Tannehill is 84% rostered, so he's probably not available, but he's got now the soft part of the schedule has arrived. Cleveland, Jacksonville, Detroit, Green Bay, and Kirk Cousins. How would you rank him with Fitzpatrick and Trubisky, Jacksonville, Detroit, Green Bay. And Kirk Cousins, how would you rank him with Fitzpatrick and Trubisky, et cetera, for Kirk Cousins? He would be number one.
Starting point is 00:55:31 He'd be number two for me. Fitzpatrick would be one, and then Cousins, too. What about Matthew Stafford? What if he gets Galladay back? He's 72% rostered. You know, I left him out on purpose, because if there's no Galladay, he's droppable. If there is Galladay, he's startable.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He's in that purgatory spot. I think he would be behind Fitzpatrick, probably ahead of Cousins. No love for Cousins. I do like Cousins. He's a top 13 guy for me. I've got him top 10.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Let's talk about the running backs that might be available in some of your leagues. J.K. Dobbins, 82% rostered. Gaskin, 81%. James White, 80%. And now he faces a matchup with the Chargers. Only three running backs all year have more than 23 receiving yards against the Chargers,
Starting point is 00:56:23 but they haven't really faced a lot of good pass catchers. Latavius Murray, Jamal Williams. And also, it should be said, get your handcuff. If you can get your handcuff, get your handcuff. So, yeah, I don't know. Dobbins, Gaskin, James White, Murray, Jamal Williams. Jamie, if all five of them are available, who are you picking up? All of them.
Starting point is 00:56:44 I would pick up Gaskin first i would pick up the top and second huh all of them i like that they're all better than the guys that we've talked about i mean that's just the nature of this right well they're not better than booker like they're not better than booker booker starting depending but again you know it's not like at least according to the reports you know you get jacobs for. Gaskin's probably the starter for the rest of the season for Miami, I would assume. Well, that's a great question. You know, what are they going to do when Gaskin and Ahmed are both healthy?
Starting point is 00:57:12 They're going to use them both. Gaskin more so than Ahmed. I mean, it hasn't been their MO, so we'll see. Yeah. No, it'll be like 60% Gaskin. The rest will go to Ahmed. Gaskin's been pretty receive-y, receiver-y.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Yeah, that's the role he's going to have a lock on. Receive-y. Alrighty, and then how about... Oh, yeah, how about the Lions guys? Like Adrian Peterson, Karyon Johnson, if... How would you prepare for them
Starting point is 00:57:42 at this point, not knowing the status of DeAndre Swift? I would prefer Karyon just because you saw what he was able to do as a pass catcher I mean Peterson's going to need to score touchdowns to be better than carry on again I don't want to count on that so I'll take carry on over Peterson but both guys are in play as flexes if there's no DeAndre Swift especially if there's no Akeem Hicks if they are on your waiver wire right now and they just took on Houston and no one in your league went to pick them up,
Starting point is 00:58:07 then no one's going to make a big move for them. You know what Dave said about Frank Gore? It's the same thing. If you just need points, those guys are going to get you points. Gore's in a better spot because he's by himself, essentially. But those guys are the same type of caliber of players. If you want to bank on the I need numbers game, then Frank Gore and the Lions guys are worth it. If you want to bank on upside, you numbers game, then Frank Gore and the lions guys are worth it.
Starting point is 00:58:26 If you want to bank on upside, you are not picking up any of these guys. Wide receivers. So the ones that you got to cross your fingers, see if these guys are available. Brandon, Iuke, Corey Davis,
Starting point is 00:58:35 Cole Beasley, Nelson Aguilar, Michael Pittman, and Alan Lazard. So again, it's a, it's Iuke, Corey Davis, Beasley, Aguilar, Pittman, Lazard. So again, it's Iyuk, Corey Davis, Beasley,
Starting point is 00:58:46 Aguilar, Pittman, Lazard. First of all, if you have them on your roster, how many of them would you drop for Debo Samuel? All. Aguilar and Pittman for sure. Beasley
Starting point is 00:59:03 probably. Iyuk is interesting, man, because I want to see how those two guys look together. Ayuk might be better. They had one game together, and Ayuk had the better game. He had 100 yards, I think, right? That was the New England game?
Starting point is 00:59:16 It must have been. I will confirm that, because I'm pretty interested in that. And then Corey Davis is 11 or more PPR fantasy points in 7 of 8 games. He's really good. Actually, no. I think it's 10. It's 10 or more in 8 of 9 games, I think.
Starting point is 00:59:35 But it's down last week. Couldn't get that last point. Yeah, he had 10 last week. So it was... He probably gets Cleveland. Browns with a depleted secondary. We don't know if Miles Garrett will be back. And then Jacksonville and then Detroit. So Corey Davis or Debo Samuel, who you got? Still Debo.
Starting point is 00:59:52 This one could come down to do you want to save your fab points or not? Because I don't think there's that much difference between them. Debo's got a higher ceiling. But if you'd want to save your fab points for the playoffs, I wouldn't spend it to go get Debo Samuel if I have Corey Davis. Nelson Aguilar this week against the Jets at the Jets. The Jets have allowed 98 or more yards to a wide receiver in five straight games. Could that be Aguilar?
Starting point is 01:00:14 I mean, it was Renfro, it was Ruggs, it was Aguilar kind of even last week. But, you know, basically... Trying to get Ruggs going. Is Aguilar a keeper, a dropper, or what right now? If you can get Debo or these other guys, you're dropping him. The other guys meaning the ones above the 65% threshold. I love him, but he drops a pass every game. He dropped a sideline route last week.
Starting point is 01:00:37 He's droppable. Okay, well, it's a good matchup. Don't drop him this week. Well, I don't know if I can start him this week. Play him this week against the Jets. They've allowed seven pass plays of 40-plus yards. That's a good matchup. Don't drop him this week. I don't know if I can start him this week. Play him this week against the Jets. They've allowed seven pass plays of 40 plus yards. That's a lot. Rugs.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Rigs. If it's Rugs, that's annoying. I'll just say that. Aguilar's been much better than Rugs. But it could be. Maybe they get him going. Alright, and then other guys to know. So you've got Debo.
Starting point is 01:01:06 You've got Tim Patrick, who Jamie likes. You've got Kiki Cutie, Brashad Perryman and Denzel Mims, Sterling Shepard. Darnell Mooney got nine targets. He's had nine or more targets in three games this year. He hasn't done anything in any of them, basically. Sammy Watkins is on this list. Hunter Renfro. Colin Johnson had a big game for Jacksonville, 96 yards and a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Gabriel Davis caught a touchdown, 79 yards. Yeah, those are names. Those are players. They're people too. Davis is interesting because he gets more playing time with John Brown out. All right. Anything to add there, Jamie, or just move on? I wish there was other things to add, buddy.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I wish there was. There are tight ends. You know, the thing that we may get to, and I guess I should say this, is I'll probably update the column Wednesday. If we get to Wednesday's practice report and we find out some things have changed with other players, other teams, I'll update it for people making their waiver moves Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Tight ends. Dallas Goddard could be available if he is. I mean, 75 yards and a touchdown, two straight games. Mike Kosicki, great matchup against the Bengals and better with Fitzpatrick. And Zach Ertz. All right, so who's going to be the best Eagles tight end going forward? Goddard bank on Goddard at this point, just from the standpoint of they're done at this point. I know they're still mathematically alive in the NFC East, shockingly. It's so funny. If you look at the projected draft order for 2021 and the NFC East standings,
Starting point is 01:02:31 they're, they're mirroring each other. It's crazy. Goddard is their future. They're probably moving on from Zachary. I can't imagine they go away from Goddard too much. So you got to look at Goddard as that guy. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:44 So if, if Robert Tanyan and Zachary are both available in your league, in your 10-team league, who would you pick up? I'm picking up Tunyon because I know he's going to play against Philly this week. Okay. The thing about Tunyon, though, is he's played well the last two weeks. He's got five targets. It's not like he's being heavily used. It's just he's finding the end zone. Kyle Rudolph, Austin Hooper, Logan Thomas, Trey Burton we didn't talk about, Jordan Akins, Jordan Reed, Dalton Schultz.
Starting point is 01:03:11 It's not great, but Trey Burton at Houston this week, and he had a pretty good game. 42 yards and a touchdown on six targets against Tennessee. And he threw a pass. Yeah, so what's your interest level in Trey Burton? It's moderate. I mean, he's not a pass. Yeah. So what's your interest level on Trey Burton? It's moderate. You know, I mean, he's not a priority. Aikens should be ahead of him.
Starting point is 01:03:30 I just didn't give you the right order. So it's, you know, Logan Thomas has, you know, been very consistent. You know, he just doesn't see a huge volume. You'd like to see that go up a little bit. But I'm going to guess they're throwing a lot this week against the Steelers. So that should help him. To me, it's Rudolph and Hooper are the two best guys. Hooper is probably not available in most leagues,
Starting point is 01:03:50 so Rudolph is 22% is his roster percentage. He's going to be available. Aikens is 17%, so those two guys, you can see what the upside is. Rudolph short-term, Aikens potentially long-term. If you're looking at from that standpoint, those two guys might be the best. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:05 And obviously with Will Fuller out and we'll see what Darren Fels' situation is. But if... Oh, he played. I'm sorry. So I thought he was questionable.
Starting point is 01:04:17 But OK. Darren Fels is good to go then. Oh, I'm sorry. I got confused. We were excited about Aikens last week because... He was coming off a 6-3-3 week because of Cobb and Stills, right? Not because of Fels.
Starting point is 01:04:29 And it wasn't just one. You dropped two touchdowns. Yeah, he dropped two touchdowns, Aikens. So keep that in mind. This is a tough matchup this week against Indy. That's the only problem with that. Yeah. DSTs, the Bears, the Raiders, the Vikings, the Chiefs, if they're available.
Starting point is 01:04:42 They're 69% owned. We're looking at them. And Nick Falk, Matt Gay, and Greg Zerlein. And that is it for today's show. We had a lot to talk about. Thanks for sticking around. We appreciate it. We got you tomorrow before the Wednesday afternoon game.
Starting point is 01:04:55 That's weird. And we will get into some starts and sits for the week and, of course, preview all the games on Thursday and Friday. For Dave and Jamie and Ben, I'm Adam. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.