Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Woody Marks, Sean Tucker, Darius Slayton and Many, Many, Many More (09/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 30, 2025It's a very tricky week on the waiver wire as we await news on Tre Benson and Bucky Irving. In the meantime, who are our top priorities this week (4:00)? Woody Marks is an easy call, but what do we ex...pect from Darren Waller and the Giants wide receivers going forward? And how much FAB are we spending (17:05)? ... News and notes (27:05) and Top 3 priorities at each position: QB (31:00), RB (37:10), WR (39:30), TE (40:40), DST (45:30) and Kicker. We talk about Tua Tagovailoa, Kenneth Gainwell, Brenton Strange, Romeo Doubs and more ... Options in shallow leagues (48:00) including Rachaad White and deep leagues (51:00), recapping last night's games (56:05) with our thoughts on Jaylen Waddle rest of season, the Dropometer (1:00:00) and a longer look at the waiver wire (1:03:00) at each position ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Oh, man, it's one of those waiver wire weeks.
A lot of players to pick up or at least consider picking up.
And we've got four teams on a buy.
The Falcons, the Bears.
The Packers and the Steelers are all going to enjoy their week off,
and we are going to scramble to make some roster decisions.
As I see on my phone a barrage of notifications,
Tyree Kill has been dropped in this league.
Tyree Kill has been dropped in this league.
That's just all Thomas.
Yeah, oh, and me and me.
I haven't done it yet, but I will.
Malik Neighbors dropped in this league, et cetera.
Welcome, everybody, to fantasy football today,
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It is Tuesday, September 30th.
It is almost time for the Halloween decorations,
although we did get our skeleton for the yard yesterday,
so you had cheated a little bit.
I'm very excited for the month of October.
All of you listening out there,
are you even aware that Bucky Irving is having an MRI on as,
I don't even know what the injury is.
His ankle, okay.
It was a really sneaky one,
but it changes the waiver wire quite a bit.
Honestly, like I wrote an entire column yesterday
about injuries and waiver wire ads and drops.
et cetera and did not know until adam texting me this morning which i thought was a joke because
i was sending him jokes this morning um which i thought was a joke that is sean tucker your second
waiver wire priority and to the point where not knowing this like you know i struggle with
players to drop just full disclosure when you read the column like i struggle with players to list
as drops i had rashad white listed as drop yeah just because three of the four games he's been
somewhat non-existent had four catches last week but and so quickly had to change that clearly
and adding Sean Tucker.
So there was a lot of additions.
So if anybody is keeping up like timeline,
I send the column,
we post the column usually Monday afternoon.
And with the two Monday night games,
the Tyre Kill Injury,
like there were a lot of updates to that
and then updates with the Sean Tucker stuff this morning.
So if you read it at some point yesterday,
please go back and read it because Darren Waller is now a big priority,
and Sean Tucker is now a big priority,
and Mason Taylor is a priority.
And so anything that happened post about 4 o'clock yesterday has been added.
And Rashad,
White is about 75% rostered in CBS Sports Leagues, but he's 41% on Yahoo.
He's 48% on ESPN.
I'm going to look up sleeper in a minute, too.
But, yeah, so the buck's running back situation is definitely one we're looking at.
We've talked about Woody Marks all week.
So let's get to the waiver wire priorities here.
And, you know, Jamie, you can start.
Who would be your top three overall waiver wire priorities?
For me, Woody Marks is still one.
So that's an easy one just based on what he did and hopefully what is going to continue to do.
Two for me would be Darius Slayton, what he was able to accomplish in the two games without
Malik neighbors last year, hopefully a sign of things to come.
And then Darren Waller, you know, kudos to you, Adam.
You kept saying, well, what if he does what John Smith does?
Well, he looked like he's going to do what John Smith does.
And John Smith averaged 13.1 p.pr.
P.P.R. points per game last year for the Dolphins.
And now no Tyree kill.
So as long as Waller stays healthy, should continue to get more work and hopefully a lot more
production.
So especially with a matchup on tap against the Panthers this week, those are the top three for me.
Woody Marks, Darius Slayton, Darren Waller.
So Waller, I mean, when I said in the preseason, can he do what Johnny Smith did?
All I meant was Johnny Smith had one of the lowest A-Dots last year.
You know, Dave pointed out to me first, but he had so many catches that were behind the line
of scrimmage.
One of the most, I forget what it was, it was almost a record for catches behind the line
of scrimmage or at the line of scrimmage.
And he just got a lot of cheap fantasy points like that.
I kind of felt like anyone could do that.
Darren Waller didn't do that much yesterday, but he caught two touchdowns.
And I just would caution, he really didn't play that much.
He ran something, what, like 12 routes?
So obviously we're hoping that he ran 10 routes.
That he's going to continue.
You have to wonder what his role is going to be is he really can't stay healthy, right?
So I just want to bring that angle up to it, part of that part of it.
All right, Dave, give me your top three.
And then I really want to talk about where Sean Tucker and Rashad White
would rank in here because Rashad White's 45% rostered on Sleeper.
So he's available on most platforms.
But give me your top three, Dave.
Good morning, everybody.
I have the same top three.
I don't have really anything to add other than what you kind of said about Waller
and how he was used.
He was used more like Waller than he was John Roo Smith.
But he could always be used as a short area target like John M. Smith was.
I think there's just more to his game.
Hopefully we're seeing him ramped up and he does become pretty close
to a full-time player.
Let me give you two other names.
One is Brenton Strange,
who's available in 53% of the leagues.
It's not very sexy,
but he gets just some decent PPR points.
He's had at least 10 and a half full PPR points
in each of his past two games.
We are struggling at tight end right now.
I think a lot of people are going to gravitate toward him,
especially with the biweeks hitting.
And then Malik Washington,
I think is going to end up being the Dolphins receiver
who sees the most targets in place of Tyree Kill.
He didn't see the most snaps in place of Pry Kill.
That was Westbrook Aquinae, but I don't know if they want to use Akine the same way they use Washington.
I remember seeing them use Washington on a bunch of screens and short throws in practice when I went to see them practice.
And he's fast.
You saw that.
You've seen it obviously before this week, but certainly after Tyree Kill went down, he got a little bit of work.
I think that role might stay the same for him, but he gets a few more targets on top of it.
Not a priority, but certainly a lot of people are struggling at receiver right now.
and there's somebody that lost Tyree Killer and Malik Neighbors.
If you can't get your hands on a Giants wide receiver,
maybe Malik Washington is somebody that you settle for
with your fourth, fifth, sixth waiver claim.
So as we talk about the box running backs,
we have no idea what the severity of the injury is,
but he is getting an MRI, right?
Bucky Irving.
So when I look at Woody Marks,
obviously I think we all see this potential for this role to grow
and for him to be a potential fantasy number two running back
or something like that.
And it was a really good setup for him last week against the Titans.
And a really good setup this week against the Ravens.
Yeah, Ravens are actually giving up the most fantasy points to running backs.
Then I think he has a buy after that.
But whatever, maybe, look, Jackson Dart threw for 111 yards last week.
He's obviously going to run the ball a lot.
I don't know that Darius Slayton's going to be in your lineup most weeks.
I hope so.
He had 11 targets in each of the two games he played without Malik Neighbors last year.
his role changes without Malik neighbors.
He becomes less of a vertical threat
and more of a lower A dot, lower route depth,
more of a reliable type of role.
Darren Waller, again, you know, he's injury prone.
I don't know how much he's going to play.
I get my question, I'm not trying to poo-poo the other guys,
my question is, would you prioritize White and Tucker over them,
you know, just because you've at least got a chance
for a must-start player,
even if we don't know anything,
later today about you know about uh the severity of bucky irving's injury so again this is where it
comes down to what site you're playing on and the kind of the the rules we play with here when we talk
about waiver ads so rashad white would probably be one a if he's available in terms of what
you're looking at because if he starts for one week even in a matchup against seattle where it's not
going to be easy for him i mean this is a guy that's proven to be very involved in the passing game
just coming off a game when they got four receptions.
This is still a receiving chord that's still in flux because of no Mike Evans.
And, you know, we don't know what Chris Godwin will look like coming off of a game
where he played a lot of snaps.
How healthy will he be?
You know, is he going to recover enough first game action,
first action at all since, you know, his injury last year.
So, yes, I think Rashad White is definitely somebody.
Tucker's a little bit tougher to trust because we saw him look amazing in week six last year
when there was no Rashad White.
But at the time, White was the starter.
Bucky was not really the featured guy.
They worked in tandem together.
And Tucker went nuts for 136 rushing yards,
56 receiving yards, and two touchdowns.
So is that what's going to happen?
Is he going to be the primary ball carrier?
And they're going to use White on passing down.
So it's a little bit tricky to trust.
I do think in the case of Slayton,
you make a very good point about what the offense looked like.
it was Jackson Darts first start.
They were playing with the lead.
How often do we expect him to play with the lead?
And as he gets more comfortable,
they're probably going to have to throw the ball a lot more.
So I do think Darius Slayton's going to have a lot of big games coming.
Now, to what extent we'll find out?
Because still Wondell Robinson will work in.
Obviously, they'll use some other guys.
So just going based on the two-game sample size without Malik neighbors
is not exactly the safest way to go.
Because both those guys saw a huge uptick in targets in terms of Slayton and Wondell
in the two games that neighbors.
missed last year. So I don't think it's a slam dunk. It's just a huge opportunity for him. And to
Dave's point, just to go back to this, there are a lot of receivers this week that are stepping
into potential big roles. So it's Slayton long term. It's Malik Washington, potentially
long term, you know, because it could be Westbrook, Keene. They could go and get somebody
to maybe fill this role. You have both 49ers guys potentially not playing on Thursday night.
So DeMarcus Robinson or Kendrick Bourne could be in huge roles this week and getting a lot of targets.
again, probably a short-term situation, and they're not great, but opportunities are there.
So there's a lot of moving parts with this week's waiver-wire stuff, and then you factor
in the four teams on a buy.
It's going to look a lot of, like, I don't know for you, Dave, like the rankings look
very weird to me.
Oh, dude.
In trying to get 150 players for our flex rankings, it was like, yeah, Adam Azer, player ID number
four or five, you know, like I was putting random names in there just to fill spots.
Like at some point, you're going to have, Kyle.
Eusecheck in your top 150. Week 8 is the big binato. There's six teams on by there.
At some point, Kyle Eusek is 65. Yeah. It's crazy. Years old. Also, Trey Benson, people
are talking about it in the chat. I forgot to mention this. Trey Benson's day to day.
I don't even know what's going on with that. So it's another one we're going to have to monitor here.
Trey Benson has some sort of injuries. So our top priorities right now are Woody Marks, Darius Slayton, and Darren Waller.
However, Rashad White
Rashad White would be a huge priority
and if the Bucks, if Becky Irving were to miss time,
who do you think would lead the team in carries?
Why am I even talking about Sean Tucker?
Well, Jamie sort of mentioned it.
Bucky Irving didn't miss any time last year,
but Rashad White did miss the one game.
And in that game, the stats were Sean Tucker 14 carries
136 yards and a touchdown,
plus three catches, 56 yards, and a touchdown.
Just 192 total yards, two touchdowns, three catches.
Bucky Irving also had 14 carries, 81 yards in a touchdown, and two catches.
It was against the Saints.
They were the worst run defense in football at the time,
and they destroyed them 51 to 27.
But Tucker basically was dusted off and used as a lead running back,
same amount of carries as Bucky.
So that's why I keep mentioning him.
So if Bucky Irving were to miss any time,
who's the lead running back do you think for Tampa Bay?
I think it'll eventually be Tucker.
I just think he's the faster one
maybe not necessarily as versatile
you can't use him in the passing game
as well as you can with Rashad White
and Rashad White's look good
but I think Sean Tucker would be better
I think Rashad White will be the best fantasy
running back for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
if Buckinger rings out because it was rolling
the passing game and how this game will probably unfold
okay but as far as carries go
I mean
you go back to that game last year it was 13
it was 14 for both of them
yeah right so
but that wasn't Rashad
White. That was him and Bucky Irving. Right. And that was before Bucky became Bucky. And so I think just
knowing how Todd Bowles probably operates, different office coordinator clearly, that they're going to
still lean on on Rashad White. Now, Tucker may run the ball better because we know Rashad White tends
to struggle sometimes in that regard. But this is a beat up offensive line. Like, I want the
passing downs back in this situation. I do not want the rushing downs back. And what you saw from
Bucky Irving in the game against Philadelphia was the passing down's work was certainly much more
important. So I do think Tucker's worth picking up. We don't know how long.
Bucky may be out if he's going to be out at all. Remember, he finished the game against
the Eagles. And so hopefully it's just precautionary. They want to make sure he's 100%. It doesn't
seem as if if he's going to miss time. It could be long term. Again, that's saying it without
knowing what the results of the MRI are. So that's just me speculating. But I would hope at
this point that Rashad White has earned enough, shown enough, deserves enough for a guy going
into contract year that he gets the work in all facets of the game. But in the case of just who
we're picking up at this point on our site, you're going to find Sean Tucker available in
97% of leagues, you're going to find Rashad White available on 21%.
And I'll just say that, you know, you said you want the passing downs back, but
Bucky Irving has 19 catches on 19 targets this year.
He does not have a single target on third down.
So that is, the passing down is every down for them.
So that I think, and Sean Tucker had, what, five catches in that game last year.
So, you know, you don't have to be.
Three.
Bucky had three.
I thought Tucker had.
Tucker had three for 50.
Oh, he had three.
I'm sorry.
You just say three?
Yeah, I combined.
I added three plus two and I made five.
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Welcome back, folks.
How much fab are we spending Dave on Woody Marks?
Do you need a running back?
Do you want a running back?
Everybody wants a running back.
So be ready to spend a huge chunk of your fab.
We're talking north of 60% for Woody Marks to be on your team.
Okay.
So that's your basically, okay.
All right.
Jamie, do you agree with that?
Probably the exact same thing as what we talked about with Trey Benson last week.
Here's another opportunity to get a potential RB2 rest of season.
These guys don't grow on trees.
It's literally, well, it is a second time in five weeks where we're talking about getting somebody.
So maybe you can find somebody else later on this year.
But here's a running back that just showed us how he's developed and improving.
He literally did it over the course of the game as well.
And his snap share has been going up each week.
Like it's inevitable that he's going to be the best running back in Houston rest of season.
So he said 60%.
Jamie, would you agree?
And then question, I guess, for both of you is, yeah, how would you, let's say we had a world.
At least 60%.
at least 60%. Let's say we had a world in which week four, Trey Benson and week five,
Woody Marks were on the waiver wire at the same time. How do you compare the two? Who do you like
better? I mean, you could just say, I mean, it doesn't really change. Who do you like better rest
of the season? Woody marks or Trey Benson. But, Jamie, go ahead. You can field that.
Benson by a lot. And so this is one of those tricky things from a fab perspective,
because your record is probably going to determine how much you spend.
If you are a sub-500, you just lost flex options or need to move flex options around
because of neighbor's injury, because of Tyreek's injury, because you might have to replace
Buck Irving, you're probably spending 60%.
This could easily turn back to what the Texans' run offense looks like in two weeks
after they face Baltimore, and it's still a very bad offensive line.
Nick Chubb is not hurt, so I don't think he's getting benched.
So if I am not necessarily looking to pick up a running back, I'm going to let somebody else spend 60%.
And it's not the wrong move to spend that much because, again, you're trying to potentially save your roster, maybe buy you win.
And I think you could do that this week.
But I don't know if I want to cripple my bank account with the idea of what could be at best a flex.
Again, he just did this against the Titans.
Nick Chubb still had a pretty big role.
He's going to potentially beat up the Ravens.
but this offense still looks very dysfunctional to me.
This offensive line still is very dysfunctional.
C.J. Stroud is not fixed yet.
And so it's different than the Benson situation
because Benson had the clear path to work.
He does not have the clear path to work.
I hope he does, but it's just not defined yet.
Okay.
All right.
How much Fab for for Rashad White, if he were available?
And how about for Sean Tucker?
So, again, it's a similar conversation
because if you need to win and you need to buy yourself a win, you spend and figure out the rest.
And so, you know, your sub 500, you don't want to, you know, have your, like, I don't want to be, so what are we, week, one in week five.
I don't want to be one and four if I lose this week.
And, hey, I got 80% of my fab left.
But if I know that Rashad White is going to be the guy and I got to spend 50% of my fab to do so, and now I'm two and three coming out of week five.
well, I still got a chance to be competitive in my league, then I'm going to do it.
So it just, I think, depends on your situation.
But I will probably have Rashad White ranked higher than Woody Marks if Bucky Irving's out.
So that's the whole thing is the if, if Bucky Irving's out.
And as we record this, we don't know if Bucky Irving's out.
We don't know how bad it's going to be getting an MRI isn't a good thing.
But we don't know if he's going to miss a game, a month, no games.
He might play this week.
And so if you're spending 50% to get one of these bucks running backs,
they could backfire.
If you're 1 in 4 and you spend 50% of your fab and Bucking shows up ready to play on Sunday,
that's that's terrible.
So I'd be a lot more careful.
I'd almost like put in low ball bids compared to 50% of the fab for one of the bucks guys,
unless we hear on before your waivers run Tuesday night or whatever,
Buck Irving's going to miss some time.
And then, yes, of course, spend what you have to spend to get Rashad,
White and a little bit less on Sean Tucker.
Okay. Yeah, right. I really hope, I really hope for everyone's sake that we get some update on
this on Tuesday. I suspect we will. I am going to make my waiver claims. We have a show at
CBS Sports Network today at 1 p.m. every Tuesday, 1 p.m. And I always do pretty much all of my
waivers claims and fab bids at that point. I looked at all of my leagues and Rashad White
is rostered in every single one of my leagues, including my 10 team leagues. But if he were available,
I would probably be in the 15 to 20%.
And I don't really think it's that much different with Bucky Irving.
I'll probably put in right now without knowing anything.
I'll probably put in $12 bids, something like that.
I just think there's so, for Bucky.
I'm sorry for Tucker, for Tucker.
For Tucker?
I just think there's so much upside.
There's so much potential for Tucker if Bucky misses time,
but also if I lose $12 and Bucky Irving,
plays this week it's not the end of the world that's kind of the approach i'm taking but you know
what by the time people hear this you might have more information so i'm going to move on um how much
Tucker is the one that's going to sway a lot of this because i'm just like reading the chat like
woody marks we told people last week to pick him up yes the the the the sharp leagues are
already he's already rostered you know like we we are talking to a wide audience clearly because of what
the numbers are but when you're talking about sean Tucker and this news was this was this was
news to us. This is going to be news to a lot of people that Bucky may miss time. And I think you
guys said it best. Like there's, there's an if to this, but that's what happens with waivers a lot.
Like we're going to say, go get, like, even last week, I had Marioita as the number one
quarterback dad. We didn't know Jay and Daniels even going to be out. And someone's saying,
Tucker, really? It's clearly white next in line. Yeah, look, I'd prioritize white, but I think
it's possible that they keep white in the role he has, give him some more carries, but they
definitely get Sean Tucker involved, right? I mean, we kind of feel like Sean Tucker's
definitely going to be involved if Bucky's out. Oh, they will definitely use both guys.
We can end it on this because I don't want to spend the whole show on a scenario that might
not even play out. But Tucker's going to have a role. We're confident in that.
He's going to have a role, but it won't be, I don't think it'll be the same type of role
that Bucky's had. So I think you're right, Adam, that you'll see a little bit more of Rishad
White getting some carries along with Tucker. I also don't know how popular the Bucks running
backs are going to be off the waiver wire compared to Woody Marks because, yes,
every team that is desperate for running back help will go after Woody Marks.
But even the teams that have two good starting running backs and they just want to add depth,
they're going to make a play for Woody Marks too.
He's going to be way more popular than those Bucks guys.
So you shouldn't have to spend nearly as much to get either Tampa Bay running back as you
should Woody.
Okay.
And now I'm hoping.
I know that Bucky's out for extended period.
That's the only thing that could sway that, yes.
I think if we find out, if it's going to have to be out for a while, it's not going to be just one game.
All right, listen, here's my pledge.
Here's my pledge.
If we find out information on Bucky Irving today, other than, you know, he's day to day or something like that.
He's going on IR or something like I at least, me, if it's just me, whatever, we'll do a bonus podcast.
I think we owe that to everybody to help you out.
So just be on the lookout for it.
Real quick, let's wrap up this discussion.
How much fab for Darius Slayton or Darren Waller?
Slayton, I don't think it's going to cost you very much.
You know, you're probably looking at maybe 10 to 15% if you want to, you know, look, we're sitting here saying,
Bucky Irving may miss time.
The receiver position has been decimated.
You know, the biweeks are killers, the injuries are worse, and you need receiver help.
And there aren't a lot of great options.
Like, there are some options that running back, you know.
I mean, I shouldn't say there are options that receiver.
But, like, Slayton, if he gets the same type of targets that he got when neighbors missed time last year, remember, same coach.
So there's a chance for him to be a top 30 plus wide receiver rest of season.
So I wouldn't be too cheap, but I wouldn't necessarily, you know, break the bank for it.
So to me, it's around, the starting point is about 15%.
Yeah, I think you can get away with 15%.
And Waller?
Similar.
I bet you're going to have to spend a little more because people know who he is and they remember, you know, 2019, 2020 and they're going to think that, I mean, he's coming off of a two touchdown game.
So public perception is going to be sky high on him.
I'd almost rather try to get Brenton Strange for 2% than have to spend 20% for Waller.
That's a good point.
Okay, remember CBS Sports Network.
I just mentioned it at 1 p.m. Eastern also, make sure you listen to the beat the waiver wire episode because you probably you could have just thrown this episode.
in the trash if you listen to beat the Waverwire.
We told you to pick up Woody Marks and Darren Waller.
I'm obviously joking, but Dave gave some very good advice on that episode,
which comes out on Thursdays in this feed.
News and notes, Lamar Jackson has the hamstring injury.
They just have not given us a timetable yet.
They have Houston, then the Rams, then a buy.
Brock Purdy and the 49ers may not play on Thursday.
They may just not have enough people to field a team, it seems.
They are playing at the Rams.
They're scheduled to, but Brock Purdy is questionable.
He kind of aggravated that toe injury.
And Ricky Pearsall and Joanne Jennings.
They're on the injury report.
Right now, it really doesn't seem like Pearsall.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm improvving a little here, but it doesn't feel great for Ricky Pearsall.
So that's why we talked about Kendrick Bourne and to Marcus Robinson.
Trey Benson's day-to-day.
Bucking Irving, whatever, getting an MRI.
Aschen Genti changed his stance.
in the backfield, doing the straight-up thing again,
and it worked for him, so he's going to stick with that.
Dallas running back Miles Sanders has an ankle injury.
I think there's some optimism that he's going to be able to play this week
against the Jets, but they also might activate Jaden Blue.
Taday Spears is eligible to return to practice this week.
And Braylon Allen left in the first half with, I think it was an ankle injury,
lower extremity.
Oh, it was a knee, that's right, that's right.
And Braylin Allen, huge play.
I feel bad.
It was a rough night for him.
He fumbled going into the end zone.
pretty much changed the entire game
and then hurt his knee.
Wide receiver, we know Neighbors is out for the year.
Tyree Kill, I don't think,
has officially been declared out for the year,
but he has...
It's a tornaceo.
No, it's a dislocated knee.
No, they were parted this morning.
Ligament damage.
Oh, it's both?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Well, that could be a career ender.
It's terrible.
Yeah.
It could be career ending.
Right.
It's at minimum career changing.
Yeah.
AJ Brown put out a tweet about kind of cryptically saying he wanted out.
Nick Siriani says he thinks AJ Brown wants to remain with the team.
Just going to cue up the squeaky, squeaky crickets.
There we go.
It's got a little squeaky.
He's getting the targets, though.
So why don't you catch the ball?
Did you hear who just stepped on the crickets?
No.
Patrick Stanton.
No, that's true.
Yeah, AJ Brown versus the Broncos this week.
Calvin Ridley, his snaps were limited.
He was dealing with an injury in week four.
Oh, no.
Terry McClor-
Are you not going to be able to start Calvin Ridley?
Well, I was wondering why he barely playing.
Are you doing the injury thing again?
What?
No.
The injury thing again.
Terry McLaren trending in the right direction.
Darnell Mooney, hamstring injury, but might be able to return after the buy.
Calvin Austin, shoulder injury.
He's got a buy this week.
Cedric Tillman is going to miss several weeks with a hamstring injury
and mentioned those 49ers.
receivers, Pearsall and Jennings, they're going to be questionable for this Thursday game.
The Saints have two tight ends who are kind of getting close to getting close to returning, Foster
Morrow and Taysam Hill.
I do wonder if that could affect Juan Johnson, but we're going to let the good times roll for now.
And a lot of offensive line stuff, a lot of defense stuff, and I'm going to skip it.
Let's go to the top three players at each.
Well, it's pretty big.
They're all pretty big, honestly.
The offensive line is a mess.
Yeah, Vikings are a problem.
Baltimore's left tackle left with an injury.
Joe Walt's got a high ankle sprain, so that's not good for the Chargers.
Browns are a mess.
Raiders left tackle has a high ankle sprain.
The Saints, their offensive line is kind of beat up,
and now their center, Caesar Ruiz is out week to week.
So there's definitely some stuff to watch.
And obviously the Ravens are super beat up.
And I haven't seen any injury updates on the Bucks,
who had five defensive players leave their game last week.
And they are at...
I think they're all getting MRIs.
really yeah i mean
i mean that's what the
todd bull said he was like that it was part of the laundry list
of where bucky irman was
all right and they're at seattle so this is
could be i've got a good stat on sam darnald
and i'm going to tell you that's that right now jamie
because we're going to go to the top three at each position so
i know that the the easiest way to sum up sam darnold is he's playing very well
but he never throws the ball well
against the bucks the bucks have played so far opponents
that currently rank 25th, 22nd, 26th, and 32nd in pass rate.
The Bucks have played nothing but run heavy teams.
But in the week that those teams played the Bucks,
they ranked 12th, 14th, 10th, and 24th in pass rate.
And the team that ranked 24th was the Eagles
who are currently 32nd in pass rate.
You cannot run on the Bucks.
The Bucks score points.
You have to throw on the Bucks.
So I'm hoping that we get a season high in pass attempts for Sam Darnold.
But with that said, Jamie, who are your top three priorities for this week at quarterback?
It's still Tua, even without Tarek there, mostly because of the matchup against the Panthers.
And I think just looking at it with what A. Chan will give him, with what Waddle will give him, with what Now Waller will give him.
He's number one.
Now, that being said, I do expect Jay and Daniels to return this week based on how much he's practicing last week.
So if you want to put, I have Marioo ranked ahead of Tua, but I'm not expecting Mario to be a guarantee.
So if you're just looking at it, like you don't, you have, let's say, a quarterback that you have,
have on your roster and you want to maybe pick somebody up for more upside mariotta would be the
one i think to get jackson dart would be third i have sam donald fourth but those those all four
are very closely ranked and if you're just looking at it most upside for me it's still mariotta because
he's been four games now with the commanders as a featured quarterback or starter and in all four
he's been 20 fantasy points for more oh man i got i think i got to disagree with you on the two
a thing i don't want anything to do with him first of all carolina for what it's worth
Six best against quarterbacks right now.
Trevor Lawrence, bad, Kyler.
It's so fluky.
I mean, I was watching some Patriots tape this morning,
and I would probably agree with you
because the Panthers played horrible defense from what I saw.
But the numbers are the numbers.
But also, I think they threw for 39 yards
after Tyreek Hill left yesterday.
I know they had the lead,
but I don't know.
I can't trust to it without Tyreek Hill.
You can make the case that the other quarterback in that game
is the better fantasy start based on the match.
Well, I can't trust him, though.
I don't know if you can trust either of these guys.
It's so sad because Bryce Young has Miami and then Dallas and then the Jets.
But last week we were saying Bryce Young has New England, Miami, Dallas, and the Jets,
and he put up 12.3 points against the Patriots.
But, I mean, the dolphins and the Cowboys are statistically the two best matchups for
quarterbacks, and that's Bryce Young's upcoming.
I wonder if he struggles does he get benched again.
Yeah, Dalton did come in at the end.
It was a blowout.
All right, so Jamie's going Tua, and then Marietta, if he plays, would actually be ahead of Tua.
He's at the Chargers, Jackson Dart at New Orleans.
Sam Darnold is fourth against the Bucks.
Dave, what do you think about Tua this week?
I think he's a high-end number two quarterback.
I think it's a little bit tougher to trust him because Tarek Hill isn't there.
And for what it's worth, the Panthers defense, at least in the secondary, have played better until last week.
and Drake May had a huge game in part because he ran for a touchdown.
And I don't know if Tua is going to end up doing that.
This could be a game where the dolphins don't need a lot from Tua.
So I think if you look at him as a number two quarterback,
and I agree if Mario Dota ends up starting,
he's definitely the guy that I would rather go with the head of Tua.
I think you can make the case for Jackson Dart because he will run.
Saints have allowed at least 20 fantasy points to each of the four
quarterbacks they've seen this year.
So maybe it's a bit of a higher floor for Dart compared to Tua.
But I think that they're close.
And so if you're a little bit worried about, you know,
you just need a quarterback for this week and maybe somebody that's got a little bit of upside rest of season,
I think you can make the case for Dart over Tua because Tua doesn't have Tyreek anymore.
The only problem with that is the next three games for the Giants are absolutely miserable
with two against Philadelphia and one against Denver.
Like what would you have said about the matchup against the Chargers?
Not that he had a great game against the Chargers, but it was okay.
And by the way, to be fair, Dart lost neighbors.
Yeah, all three of these quarterbacks, Tua, Mariotta, and DART are currently missing their number one wide receivers.
Well, quote-unquote number one.
Dibon might be the commander's number one.
Yeah, the way I look at it is who's going to get me to 20 points?
Mario daura has proven he can get north of that.
For sure.
Dart is a mystery bag, but he gets a great matchup.
Tua is now a mystery bag.
gets a great matchup
and to me
still has the best weapons
available right now
even without Tyreek there
so that's why
I still trust him
in his matchup
more so than the other guys
you know who has better weapons
Sam Donald
yeah I don't know if that's true
actually
but yeah Donald
Donald's got to be a close fourth
at least
listen Donald's in a great spot
he really is
it's just a matter of
will he you know
you said it
will he throw enough
he's averaging 25 pass
attempts in game
like that does not feel
great and yes it's tough to run on Tampa but being as banged up as they are defensively
well that's the whole that's true that's a good point they're also banged up in the secondary though
yeah this could be Seattle gets away with what they want but volume is going to come back to
bite darnal all right so I agree I'd like the other quarterbacks better for this week you know what
you guys are entitled to your wrong opinion let's go to the running backs no it's funny because
I know Tyree injury changed it but you were on board with when we did our waiver wire
expressed yesterday, you were like,
oh, you convinced me that Dart and
Tua and Mariotta are all better than Donald. I don't
think DART. There's no way I'd start DART over
I'm just saying that you're
sentencing, you're phrasing,
your words were you convinced me
on those guys over
Donald. I think I only said Tua
and Marioada.
We'll go back. You've been misquoting
me quite a bit lately.
So, all right, Dave,
top three running backs.
Woody, then a Bucs running
back and then it's a close call for me between Kendrae Miller and Taijay Spears.
I'm going to think long term and say that Kendra Miller is the third best running back
that you can get off waivers.
But it's a long term play.
I do like that his touches have gone up each week so far the season.
Last week, 11 touches.
Finally a double digit PPR points.
It seems like we're getting to the point now where he's going to take work away from
Camara.
And what if Camara gets traded?
What if Camara gets rested for the last few weeks?
of the season. Again, this is not somebody that you can start and feel good about in week
number five, unless you're desperate at running back. But I think Kendrae Miller's role is only
going to continue to increase and get better. And that's a running back that I'd want to have
on my bench. It's not going to be a huge priority. I shouldn't have to spend more than 5% of my
fab. Should be able to get him with my second waiver run. But I think there's a spot on fantasy
benches for Kendra Miller. He's available in 70% of leagues. I think it's time, this is totally
my fault. There's 35 minutes in the episode. It's probably time to talk about the running back
who scored over 30 fantasy points last week, is 22% rostered, I believe, is going into a buy. Yeah,
he should be top three. Kenneth Gainwell. Without a doubt. But would you have him third, Jamie?
So if we find out that there's nothing wrong with Bucky and he's fine, he's second. And it's
a close second to what he marks because we don't know how long Jalen Warren's going to be out.
Like Jalen Warren, hopefully is back week six and back to being his role. If Warren's injured,
is long term, you can make a case that Gainwell is better than Woody Marks.
So we just saw like, that was amazing.
So I'm picking up Kenneth Gainwell right after Woody Marks if I found out that the
buck situation is fine.
I'm picking up Kenneth Gainwell if I don't need a running back for week five, which is
hopefully a great situation.
Like Gainwell, week six plus could be league winner.
So he is easily in the top three of the running back position.
What if we learned today that Jalen Warren's going to be fine in back week six?
I'm not sure if Mike Tomlin talks today.
He usually talks on Tuesdays.
Yeah.
Well, look, what we know is that he was, quote, unquote, expected to play and then didn't play.
So I think people are treating it as a short-term injury.
However, what we also know is that Jalen Warren has had a career high in carries in week three
and came out of it with a knee injury.
So he's not a guy who I feel like is going to get a full workload.
All right.
So Gainwell is someone.
I said I'm going to do my way.
waivers before the 1 p.m. show. I don't think it's going to be so difficult. It's going to take me
two hours. So many guys. Dave, top three wide receivers. Dave. The Giants guys are first.
If Wondale is out there, I take him ahead of Darius Slayton. I think earlier I said Malik
Washington was somebody that you can go and grab. I think I might take Iowa Manor, again,
thinking rest of season. And we've been talking about him a lot. And last week was a major disappointment.
But I think I'd rather have Iowa Manor than Malik Washington. But those are going to be
my top three slash four receivers.
What about Romeo Dobbs coming off a three touchdown game?
So that's what, listen, and the reason why I didn't include Dobbs or Gainwell is because
they're not playing this week.
Okay.
And so Gainwell, if you need them this week, you're in big trouble.
And then we don't know what his role is going to be.
But yes, Gainwell should be ahead of Kendrae Miller, especially if you're picking up Miller
for long term, Gainwell is a much better ad for long term.
So that's my bad.
And Dobbs is the exact same thing.
So Dobbs should probably be behind the Giants guys.
Someone in the chat is asking, pick up Tucker or White, and I don't know if we explicitly said this.
Sean Tucker or Rashad White.
Yeah, yeah, no, I know who he's talking about, but we prefer Rashad White, right?
In case I didn't say that?
Definitely.
Okay.
Yeah, it's probably the way to go.
Jamie, who are the top three tight ends?
Darren Waller would be one.
Brent and Strange would be two, and Mason Taylor would be three.
Now, you can make a case for Tommy Trembal, if you wanted.
Trembal was actually second for me prior to Monday night just because of what he
He just did what the matchup is against Miami, and it wasn't just trembled.
They had another tight end that also worked in as well.
So this receiving core needs Jalen Coker back right now, and hopefully he returns.
So just keep that in mind.
He's eligible to come off IR for this week.
We have not heard anything except for two weeks ago when Dave Canales said week to week.
So we don't know if that meant he's going to be ready for when he's eligible to return or not.
But just looking at Jatavion Sanders out, once again, there could be a big opportunity for
Trimble, who had eight targets and five catches in last week's game against Patriots,
and the Dolphins couldn't stop Mason Taylor, who had seven targets for five catches.
But I think just looking long term, as well as short term, Mason Taylor gets the Cowboys this
week.
He would be third behind Waller coming off the big game, Strange, now back-to-back games
with 10 PPR points or more.
I don't know how huge of an upside play Strange is.
He's more of a floor play at this point, just based on what we've seen.
So Waller, to me, is the easy one to go get because there could be immense,
potential for him if he stays healthy and now with Tyree Killout.
Okay.
And Mason Taylor were with 13 targets in his last two games.
And actually, it's a little bit of a trend right now.
These rookie tight ends are starting to carve out bigger roles.
Gadsden saw an increase in his snapshot.
Elijah Royo has seen an increase and he had his best game.
It wasn't that good.
Mason Taylor, again, 13 targets in his last two games.
That's really huge for a team that is desperate for a second receiving option.
I think also just keep in mind, which I think is a positive for Taylor, it came with two different quarterbacks.
So it's not necessarily a quarterback thing favoring one of these guys, or a quarterback thing favoring him.
It's the offense now allowing him to operate a little bit more.
So it was cool to see, especially going back to Miami where his dad played.
Sure.
One more thing, because I forgot this name, again, somebody who's on by at Tide End, is there room to stash Colston Loveland on the hope that he gets a post by bump?
I wouldn't make that a big priority because he's coming off an injury.
I don't think you have to.
Yeah, but like you've got to have a pretty deep bench to be carrying a player like this who's done next to nothing and coming off an injury.
So sure, if you can afford to carry him, I don't know.
Like if I'm picking up a young tight end that's available in free agency right now, it's Mason Taylor without question.
I agree.
But if I, it's the exact scenario you laid out and there's probably 10% of the audience that has something.
like this. But we were drafting Colson Loveland. We weren't drafting Mason Taylor. We weren't drafting
any of these tight ends that we're talking about. And if Loveland ends up getting more work in the Bears
offense, Bears' offense is really proven despite what we saw against Las Vegas. They can move the
ball downfield. That's somebody that I'd want to have on my bench. You don't even have to do it
today. Yeah. You can probably wait Friday or Saturday to go get Loveland and stash them on your
bench. And just to go back to the running backs, if we find out that there's something significant
for Trey Benson to Mercado now becomes probably is it right I don't know I don't feel like
is there another running back to have that could actually get carries Michael Carter's the other guy one
of them's going to play just on passing downs and the other one's going to play rushing downs that's how
they've operated since Drew Betzing's been there I'm kind of leaning Kyler a start of the
week no it will be it will be Carter I think this is actually a good point because Carter last
year as I recall had like a huge game in Conner's uh now
He had 17 carries in week 18.
He had 13 carries the week before that.
So I don't think they moved DeMarcato.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just speculating here.
It's possible that DeMarcato stays in his horrible fantasy role.
And Michael Carter would get the boost there.
By the way, hold on.
Colston Loveland, to your point, they wanted to get the tight ends more involved.
He ran five routes before getting injured.
He had three targets on his five routes.
and he was maybe in line for a big game.
You'll hear his name again on Thursday.
By the way,
running backs we're talking about now,
like DeMercato and Michael Carter,
like these are like week 16, 17 guys.
And it's week five.
What a nightmare this.
I almost think though in the case of somebody
that's on a buy coming off an injury,
like you could just wait until next week
and get him when nobody's paying attention.
Yeah, probably.
But those of you who are listening now,
it is possible we're getting an increased role
from Colston Loveland.
Hopefully.
They tried to do that in week.
in week four.
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Okay, welcome back.
So it's been a busy show so far.
So let's talk about the shallow league guys, Jamie.
I think that'd be headline by Rashad White.
But who are some of the shallow league guys that we need to know about?
Matthew Stafford, a quarterback.
You know, if you want to avoid the mess of what everybody has been, that the guys
we talked about of Tua without Tarek and maybe Mario to play's and Dart without neighbors
and all those guys like Stafford is playing very well right now,
375 and 3 touchdowns in his last game.
San Francisco's beat up defensively as we know and beat up offensively,
so the Rams may have an opportunity to hold the ball a ton.
And Stafford can't have the chance for a good game.
None of these guys that we're talking about, by the way, are top 12 quarterbacks for me,
but they're all on the cusp.
Stafford being the closest to a top 12 guy.
running backs you mentioned, it's Rashach.
For that position, the other two guys that I have listed in the column are more of just,
Kareem Hunt and Brian Robinson Jr. Hunt is more at this point, touchdown or bust.
If he doesn't have a good week, he's going to be on the cut list next week.
And Robinson should be rostered in all leagues.
Think about all these guys that we're talking about.
If something happens to McCaffrey, God forbid, Robinson's going to be a must start running back.
You want this guy on your team.
He is a lottery ticket and a league winner if he gets any extended opportunity to play.
At wide receiver, I will say this, there is a chance in 18 leagues that Jalen Waddle was dropped, clearly go pick him up.
Joanne Jennings would be somebody still, I want a roster just because if he does play Thursday and Pierce all is out, that could be a lot of targets for him.
He's dealing with what I think is a rib injury.
I think what we have listed is undisclosed because Kyle Shanahan said the shoulder's bothering him, his ankle's bothering him, and he took a shot to the ribs in the game.
So we just basically said it's undisclosed.
To me, it means everything.
Like, everything is bothering Joanne Jennings this point.
But Khalil Shakir, 12.4 PBR points or more in three or four games.
Stefan Diggs coming off this first 100-yard game for the Patriots.
And then Wondale Robinson, he just misses the threshold.
So it's an interesting conversation of who's going to be the best Giants received a rest of the way.
If Robinson, I know he's been bad the last two weeks is still out there,
I would go pick him up because there's still a chance for him to be heavily involved.
and in the two games that neighbors missed last year,
you referenced the 11 targets that Slayton had.
Robinson averaged 13 ppr points per game in those two games.
He had one huge game, one mediocre game,
but clearly there's a path for both of these guys to have a lot of production.
So make sure Robinson is rostered as well.
And then at tight end, there's a lot of guys
that you might be able to find on waivers in 10-team leagues
and even some 12-team leagues.
Dalton Kincaid is still out there.
Dallas Goddard is still out there.
Kyle Pitts is still out there and Joanne Johnson is out there.
So Kincaid's 83% rostered.
Johnson's 80% rostered.
Goddard is 75% rostered.
And if I'm picking up a tight end,
just had an 18 ppr point per game.
18 ppr game performance and Darnal Mooney is dealing with an injury,
which we know is in great favor for Kyle Pitts' fantasy value for it.
Yeah.
You cut out just a little bit there on your pits.
discussion, but this is not someone
you should be dropping going into his bi-week, right?
No, no, no, no. We might
have said differently if he had a bad game, though,
in week four. He just didn't.
True, but I mean, this is the tight end position,
right? He's got a roll.
So, Dave, I don't think I have it
in me to
do the voice, but
none of those guys are available.
None of those guys are available in my...
I'm not doing it.
I can't... I just... I don't have it
today. I think I need to find a new voice.
I need to find a new voice.
I don't like it.
Jamie, can you do it?
In my league, these guys are all taken.
Oh, nice.
Jamie's impersonations are always spot on.
I appreciate that.
Thank you very much.
We already talked about Mario at 80% at quarterback.
The next best guys are kind of gross.
It's Bryce Young, Sam Darnold.
They're available in two-thirds of leagues.
Carson Wentz against Cleveland.
I'm not a fan of that.
71% available.
You're in trouble if you're in a deep league.
Just before you go on, just for anybody.
in two QB leagues, go pick up Cooper Rush because he's going to potentially start.
You are just desperate.
You need somebody.
And Dylan Gabriel should now be rostered if you're just looking ahead because there is definitely a scenario of Joe Flacco getting benched.
Help me out here.
You've got to start one of those guys in week five.
It's Spencer Radler.
It's Cooper Rush.
It's Dylan Gabriel.
Who you're taking?
The guy playing the Giants.
Right.
But there's also Mac Jones.
90% of leagues.
There's also Mac Jones potentially.
Now, we don't know that, though, but that's a Thursday game, and he's 14% rostered.
He's also dealing with a sprain PCL with no Ricky Pearsall and potentially no Joanne Jennings and no George Kittle.
You can make the case that Rattler is better than Mack Jones.
Yeah, okay.
Rattler it is.
Yeah, don't have a lot of high expectations for any of those quarterbacks, by the way.
And by the way, pipe down.
You can't even do the voice this week.
Hey, running backs.
There it is.
Okay, now you can speak up.
Sean Tucker, 97% available.
We've already talked a long time about him.
Other running backs who I'm sure we'll talk about at some point on this show.
Justice Hill at 77%.
Chris Rodriguez at 76%.
You might have to wait a long time for Breschard Smith,
but he did see a little bit more work than normal for the chiefs.
He's available in 92% of leagues.
Those are the running backs that are out there.
Slayton's available in 97% of leagues.
You know the deal with him.
You know the deal with Malik Washington.
He's at 97%.
We've been talking about Jalen Coker forever.
He's at 87%.
What about Jalen Tolbert for the Cowboys,
who's available at 94% for however long,
that C.D. Lambs out. At least it's somebody who can pick up some work if you're really desperate as a bi-week replacement at wide receiver. And then one other name, two other names I have to bring up. These are rookie receivers. Tori Horton with the Seahawks, 75% available. Isaiah Bond with the Browns, 97% available. Cedriced up. I think he's going to miss some time. Bond actually looked pretty good last week for Cleveland. I just don't love that quarterback situation. And while we're talking about receivers in Dallas, I have to mention Cabante Turpin, 92% available.
that's a lot of names a wide receiver but at tight end i'll keep it short it's the same two names we talked about
already waller 86 percent mason taylor 90 percent he already has a 71 percent route rate each of his first
four games so he's been involved in what the jets have been doing offensively now he's getting the
targets he's had at least six each was past two games and he had double digit ppr points in his first game
where justin fields was actually throwing to him did you mention the 49ers wide receivers and who do you
prefer. I don't know if I feel real good about starting them, and they're very short term to begin with.
They are. We don't know. That's the thing. We don't know. I mean, Pierceall said he felt instability in his knee,
and who knows what that can mean for him moving forward. I would look at Robinson over Kendrick Boren after
Bourne had the bad drop. Robinson first game action of the season, and it's a revenge game taken on the former team.
So there might be a few opportunities there. Look, they're potentially chasing points in this game if they're down so many guys and their defense did not look as good as,
expected clearly makes some sense without
Nick Bosa there. So I would
expect the Rams offense,
which is clicking right now, to
score some points and they're
chasing. So the bigger
concern for me is that you have a quarterback
with a toe injury that's not 100%. You have a backup
quarterback with a knee injury, it's not 100%. And so
do you want to trust these guys, but we are talking about
deeper league. So most
of the guys Dave mentioned should be ahead of
any 49ers receiver, but if you
are desperate, I would look Robinson
overboard. That's got to be the deepest
Deep League and the history of deep leagues if you're going after after those guys. Robinson probably
did have a ramp up game, 32% route rate last week. This is a weird comment from the chat.
I listened to the show when I was sleeping and in my dream, all four of you showed up to my house in my dream.
Very strange. All right. Well, here we are in reality. A quick trivia question. There are two divisions right now that do not have a sub 500 team. Can you name them?
Two divisions that have a sub-500 team?
The worst team in the division is two and two.
I think the NFC North is one of those teams.
And the NFC West, good job.
You guys nailed it.
All right.
Let's talk about last night's games.
Unfortunately, it will be an abbreviated take on last night's games because this show has been a little long
because of all the waiver wire stuff, and that's why we're here.
I'm not going to be able to get into my kicker diatribe.
I already went on a rant about special teams yesterday, so I think we're covered for the week.
Can you trust any Bengals?
Obviously, they were facing Detroit and Minnesota the last two weeks, but they're unwatchable right now.
Are they unplayable against Detroit and going forward?
I'm going to go back to Jemar Chase against the Lions.
Chase Brown, just based on all the teams that are off, is a low-end number two running back and did look better last night.
So four yards per carry and a little bit more involved in the passing game.
So I've got you 10 PPR points, which wasn't as bad as he has been.
Look, Detroit's secondary is a mess right now.
I hope that Jake Brownie can hold up at home and maybe hit these guys.
And you saw now, you want to talk about squeaky wheel,
you know, Jamar Chase, not happy with his coach.
So he's still a number two fancier receiver.
T. Higgins, despite all the teams that are off,
is just a number three receiver at best.
Like, I'm going to continue to say this until we start to get consistent production.
Like, he's just going to be one of these guys, like, you feel forced to start
until you just get better options.
And it's not going to go well.
Joey, you're right in the chat.
Susanna Hoffs is the only
Bangal I trust that's very good.
Okay, and for the
Broncos, hey, RJ Harvey, what was it?
What? He got 18 touches, 98 total yards.
He had a receiving touchdown.
That was great.
I've a decent amount of Harvey.
I'm not ready to start him next week,
but that was encouraging.
They're at Philadelphia, well, this week, I guess I should say.
But that, you know what?
We'll have time to talk about that.
But that was encouraging to see.
I think I read somewhere.
I don't know if it was a beat writer speculating this or Sean Peyton saying this.
I'll go back and look that they kind of want Dobbins now to become a little bit more of a closer.
Oh.
And maybe get Harvey going a little bit early in the game.
Dobbins first one hundred.
Harvey played almost the same amount of snaps as Dobbins.
And he had more third down snaps in both Dobbins and Biday and all four of the Broncos snaps inside the 10.
So there's a metamorphosis happening in that backfield.
in Denver.
Be happy that you held on to RJ Harvey.
But that doesn't mean Dobbins is losing any role.
He's the first 100-yard rusher.
He's the first 100-yard rusher in the Sean Peyton era.
So I don't know.
They were saying that on the broadcast.
He had a really good game.
If you were going to pick up a Broncos.
He was the last 100-yard rushing game for the Broncos.
It wasn't Geralte.
What did you say?
It wasn't Giovante.
It was not Javonte.
Ruben Drones.
No.
Who?
Latavius Murray.
Oh.
Taitre.
Troy Franklin and Marvin Mims.
Who do you prefer if you were picking someone up off the waiver wire?
Franklin.
Mims for the short term, just because when he gets out, he can get really hot.
And I think he was banged up after the last week's game,
dealing with something coming into the game.
Clearly looked like he was 100%.
Manufactured targets for him.
So I make Franklin better long-term, short-term, though I'll take MIMS.
Miami 27, Jets 21.
and, you know, it's a pretty damn good day for fantasy on the jet side.
I mean, Breece Hall had the five catches, Garrett Wilson with the late touchdown.
Justin Field scored 29 fantasy points.
Tua scored 19 points.
It was a good fantasy day.
Waddle was disappointing, though, and they got, look, they had a lead, and they weren't
really throwing much to it through 25 passes.
Usually the dolphins are going to be trailing.
What do you think about Jalen Waddle rest of season?
Yeah, number two receiver. You just got to worry about him missing time with injuries because that seems to happen to him every year.
But doors wide open for him to be the top target getter moving forward.
Would you rather have Waddle, rest of season, or Teteroa McMillan?
McMill.
I'm sorry.
Say that name again?
Waddle or McMill.
Waddle.
Ooh.
All right.
Dropometer.
T.J. Hawkinson.
Four.
Yeah, four is fine.
Would you drop Hawkinson for Waller, Taylor?
Yes.
So the only, I'm going to change my answer.
The number is eight because it's the Browns and then a buy.
So you've got to be in a sort of desperation mode to play him this week and can't get somebody off waivers.
Okay.
Drop o meter zero to ten on Cooper Cup.
I had him as a drop yesterday and then your theory sort of stuck in my head about if they throw a lot against the bucks, he's going to have a bigger role.
So I'm going to wait one more week.
Jerry Judy.
Zero now.
Right, because Tillman got hurt and there's a chance that he could end up seeing a rebound in targets.
I don't want to start Jerry Judy.
And so I guess the only, I'll say a one because if you've got Judy as your sixth wide receiver or something like that,
you probably don't need them and you could use that roster spot for somebody else.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, when Tillman went out, it just seemed like Isaiah Bond just kind of got Tillman's targets.
It's true.
Yeah.
Daniel Jones.
Zero.
You know, I only said, I'm not saying it because I think it just, you know, people might be asking.
He's had two bad fantasy games in a row.
Keon Coleman.
Four.
Four or five, somewhere in that range.
How about
He's almost in the same
He's in the same boat as Judy
Except you might like spike cut him
You might spike cut both those guys
Trey Tucker
Last week's darling
74% rostered
8
2
Oh 8 2
DJ Moore
3
2
Darnel Mooney
5
3
Really I'm not so patient
with him necessarily.
I mean,
he did have 11 targets two weeks ago,
but he hasn't done anything so far.
Same boat as Coleman and Judy.
The difference between Coleman and Judy,
obviously,
is that Judy we think is going to get targets.
That's why he's less droppable than Coleman.
All right.
I don't think if you drop Darno Mooney
in a 12-team league
that everyone is rushing to get him on his buy.
So you can probably drop him and get him back.
He is not a must-hold by any stretch.
Drop Mooney and add Loveland on Saturday.
I would drop Mooney and add
Slayton.
I guess.
Again, if you don't need Mooney,
then I could see this as a reasonable move.
Yeah.
Not ready to say that he's toast for the year, though.
Okay, waiver wire.
You're going to see if Matthew Stafford's available.
The 49ers have been good against every quarterback
not named Spencer Rattler that they faced.
But Stafford is, as Jamie said, he's playing great.
Tua is Jamie's number one.
Mario da, it would be two, but he may not play.
Marioada has scored 20 or more fantasy points in each of the two games this year
and the two games last year that he played.
So he's four for four to get to 20 and six point per pass in touchdown leagues.
Jackson Dart is third against the Saints who have allowed multiple touchdown passes
and 20.7 or more fantasy points to every quarterback they have faced.
And then you got Sam Darnold against the Buccaneers.
He is tied with Lamar Jackson for the NFL lead in yards per.
attempt. Not a lot of attempts, though. And then, you know, Bryce Young, we just wish that Bryce
Young were playing a little bit better, but the dolphins are so bad against quarterbacks. Every
quarterback that the dolphins have faced has scored 29 or more fantasy points. And then he gets
the Cowboys, who are even worse than the Dolphins. Wait a second. Yes, that is right. Every one of
them has scored 29 or more fantasy points. And I don't think any of them have thrown 30 passes yet
against the Dolphins. It's incredible.
Carson Wentz, you know, he obviously struggled,
but he still scored 25.2 fantasy points at Pittsburgh or in Ireland,
but he gets Cleveland this week. That won't be easy.
Then there's Michael Pennix, who's on a buy, but had a good game.
There's Mack Jones. There's Cooper Rush, Dylan Gabriel,
Spencer Rattler, we mentioned.
I'm not going to get so into these guys, you know,
make the decisions based on your need.
But the top four, or top five, Arta, Mariotta, DART,
Darnold and Bryce Young.
Before we move to running back, Dave,
do you have any strong disagreements on two of Marioada,
Dart, Donald, Young?
Not strong.
The only one being that if we knew that Jane Daniels wasn't going to play
Marioita would be at the top of the list,
but I think we agree on that.
That's it.
Okay.
At running back,
oh, you can drop Gino Smith,
Trevor Lawrence, and Aaron Rogers.
At running back, we're going to look for Rashad White.
Ali Gordon still might have that goal line role.
Kareem Hunt
goal line roll and passing downs roll
This is in shallow leagues, right?
Yeah, yeah, and Brian Robinson, Jr.
Those are the shallow league guys.
Now, for the guys who are more widely available,
we've spent the whole show on it,
but Woody Marks, Sean Tucker would be second.
I know you're not seeing him on this list,
but this was a recent edition, if you're watching.
So Woody Marks, Sean Tucker, Kenneth Gainwell.
You got Justice Hill,
but who is the other guy that we talked about?
Kendrae Miller?
Tai J. Spears?
The Arizona situation.
The Arizona situation is another one to watch.
But Marks Gainwell.
We haven't really talked about Justice Hill or Chris Rodriguez.
Jamie, what do you want to say about those guys?
I think we're going to see a lot of negative game scripts for the Ravens coming up based on their defense.
And depending on how long Lamar Jackson's out, it could be the next two weeks because
their bias you alluded to is in week seven.
So week five and week six, Lamar Jackson may not play.
Justice Hill now has, I believe, it's eight or nine catches in his last two games.
And we know that when the Ravens are trailing, it was the same thing with the Titans in the last year for Derek Henry there.
He'd just not play in a lot of those scenarios.
So Justice Hill is coming off a huge game.
I wouldn't necessarily make that the reason to get him.
But the way that the games could unfold for Baltimore, Hill's role could expand.
Rodriguez, in my opinion, just continues to look like the best running back for Washington.
Had the 48-yard run in the first quarter last week against Atlanta.
He does not have any role in the passing game.
I don't know what they're going to do with these three guys in terms of using them.
as pass catchers when jane daniels is back but if you're just looking for someone who has the
potential to take hold of a backfield without an injury it could be rodriguez at this point because
kroski merritt i don't know if it was the injury who's dealing the last week or what but
they're just not giving him the work that we were hoping to see from him when austenacler was down
dave mentioned kentrey miller i don't necessarily want to just chase the points from last week but
everything dave said is right like he's a lottery ticket waiting to happen if kimer gets traded or
hurt and he is starting to get more work the last two weeks so if you want to make him more
of a priority then then rodriguez or hill i have no problem with that and then the other guy just
should be mentioned really as after mark's gainwell and tucker or mark's Tucker gainwell
would be taj spears they opened the window for him to return to practice this week i don't know
how great this scenario is because i don't think he's the answer to all the titans woes but maybe a
little bit of a spark in their backfield and should be added as we've said
for the last basically three weeks like start adding him now before it becomes too expensive
and you have to spend more fad than you needed to can i add one more name well i'm probably
going to say it but yeah go ahead okay the guy you're going to say has had double-digit touches each
of the last two weeks mrico dowdell that's the name yeah so jamey mentioned kendry miller's getting
more of a role rico dowdell is also getting more of a role he's he's close to 50-50 in terms of
carries with tubbard uh so maybe that's a bit of a stretch
I mean, there are two blowout games, though, to keep that in the first.
Some of them are blowout games, but I think they want to get, I think they want to have him play a role.
And so I'm just saying if you've got Chuba Hubbard and you're going to continue to roll with him,
a downgrade expectations because he hasn't been great and B, have him backed up just in case.
If Chuba loses the role or gets hurt, that would be the one to step in.
Again, I don't even have him as one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
He's not even in my top eight at running back guys to.
had this week. But just a name to keep in mind.
No, in the first half of week four, Chuba Hubbard had eight carries and Rico Doudal had seven.
So it wasn't just the blowout there. We mentioned Amari DiMarcato, but I think Michael Carter is
also an interesting name to know. Blake Corum, Breschard Smith's getting a bigger role.
Tyler Algear's 62% rostered. Nobody ever handcuffs Josh Jacobs, but Emmanuel Wilson looked pretty
good against Dallas. And Jacobs had a knee issue. It was just a cut on his knee.
Yeah. Marshawn Lloyd is eligible, is eligible to come off of a
i are he's got a figure it'd be
Emmanuel Wilson though at this point right
I like him a lot but you never know
Jade and Blue is another guy
they're not such big fans of Marshawn Lloyd
from what I hear uh they like they like Wilson
because he's always in the trainer's room
yeah okay you can drop you could drop Nick Chubb
you don't have to but you could drop Nick Chubb you could drop
I'm going to drop Tyrone Tracy for Woody
I don't think Woody Mark's available I think I already did that but
I would drop Tyrone Tracy for
some of the guys what we've talked about
I just don't know how good he's going to be when he
comes back.
Kyle, but I wouldn't do it for like Rico Doudal.
I would do it for a Bucks guy or Kenneth Gainwell or something like that.
Kyle Monong guy's dropable.
Caleb Johnson's dropable.
The shallow league wide receivers are Joanne Jennings.
If he can play this week, he might have a good role.
And Khalil Shakir, going up against New England, Shakir, not getting a lot of targets,
no more than five in three straight games, but he made, he's got a touchdown in two
straight games.
One of them was kind of a miracle.
Stefan Diggs looked pretty good.
That's what I was watching this morning, and he's 76% rostered in CBS leagues, so he'd be
one that I'd be looking at, and certainly I think we all would, because his route participation
rate is going up.
It was 82%, it was 90% in the first three quarters of the game, and he hadn't been over
70% route participation rate all year, so they ramped up the work for digs.
Then you got Wondale Robinson as well.
And then the guys to add at wide receiver, Rondale's 66% rostered, so he's part of this
discussion.
You guys, which
Giants wide receiver would you prioritize?
Slaten or Wondale?
Slayton slightly.
I'll take Wondale slightly if it's full PPR.
All right. So Wondale, Slayton, you got
Romeo Dobbs, Jalen Coker,
Ehrlich, I. O'Manor.
You've got Marvin Mims on this list.
Malik Washington.
Isaiah Bond.
Luke McCaffrey's had a touchdown in two straight games
with McLaren out, but he's only had three targets
in each of those games.
You could look at DeMarcus Robinson, who might
or Kendrick Bourne,
they might have a role this week.
I wanted to mention Rashid Shaheed.
The Giants are 31st against wide receivers.
I don't understand why, really,
but they are seeing the most wide receiver targets per game,
the Giants, even though they're so bad against the run.
But they've given up big games mostly to good wide receivers.
But does anybody like Shaheed this week?
Would you go make a claim for him?
He's in that mix after Slayton and Dobbs, for sure.
I mean, you know, it's a great opportunity, like you said,
matchups there for him, but it's just the production is not going to be consistent
based on what we've seen so far.
So it's more of just, again, listen, we're down.
The four teams on a buy.
We just lost in the same weekend two top 15 receivers and Malik neighbors and Tyree Kill.
We don't know when CD Lam's coming back.
We don't know when Tyra McClure is coming back.
Like, this is a bad position right now to try and find, you know,
players with upside.
and I still think he does upside.
He does.
How do you feel about 8.2 PPR points?
Every week he's been that or better.
That's his floor.
And then week two, he had 15.2 because he scored a touchdown.
I wish he'd get a little bit more in the target department.
Week one, he had nine.
That was awesome.
Which department?
It's been 565 after that.
Do you say the target department?
We're talking like home and garden, electronics?
Okay.
I'm more of a frozen dessert freezer aisle.
Gotcha.
Tight end, a lot of those shallow league tight ends that Jamie mentioned.
Who's your favorite?
Kincaid, Joanne Johnson, Dallas Goddard, or Kyle Pitts?
It's a great question.
I would probably go with Joanne Johnson just because of what he did the first three games of the season.
Kincaid is a close second at this point.
Pitts would be there, but the fact that he's going to buy right now,
I would just put him a little bit lower on the list,
but Johnson, Kincade, are the top two.
I would take Kincade.
Just imagine a world where he starts seeing more targets
from week to week.
So that world's on a different team or a different...
Yeah, I can't imagine that world.
What world are we talking about?
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm still living in the preseason Bill's world, I guess.
So I mentioned Kincade, Juan, Johnson,
Dallas Goddard, and Kyle Pitts.
Would you take all of them over Darren Waller?
How would you rank Darren Waller with that group?
Waller's behind them, but very close to them now.
Look, I don't want to get excited about one game against the Jets.
You know, I know there's a big opportunity here because Tyree Kill is out,
and this is a guy that couldn't get healthy after not playing football for, you know, a year plus.
So he struggled with injuries the last time we saw him, last two times we saw him.
And yes, the runway is clear.
The John Hussmith role is open.
The opportunity is fantastic.
But I still think these other guys have established themselves
They're in pretty good spots as well.
So he's behind them, but not far behind.
Okay.
And then after Darren Waller, it's Brenton String.
I'm not dropping Joanne Johnson off a bad game to pick up Darren Wallet.
And I wouldn't want to have Waller is my only tight end unless it's a shallow league where,
I mean, if it's a shallow league where a lot of tight ends are on the bench,
you're probably going to go and pick up one of those other tight ends anyway
and leave Waller there.
Brenton Strange is kind of like the Rashid Shahi.
heat of tight ends he's given you but even better he's 9.9 or more yeah well he has had one bad
game though that's the difference but 9.9 are more fantasy points in three or four games for
strange mason taylor is really peaking my interest you know he's a pretty good prospect and
bigger role i said for the fifth time now 13 targets in his last two games for mason taylor
gets dallas this week they're horrible jamy likes uh well i wouldn't say likes but jami
mentions Tommy Trembal, who had eight targets last week, and now he faces the dolphins who
going into last night were giving up the second most fantasy points to tight ends, and then they
gave up a big game to Mason Taylor. Dalton Schultz is...
So I think Dalton Schultz is the Rashichita. Yeah, I was just about to say that.
Last two weeks, exactly six targets, exactly five receptions, exactly under 40 yards.
And anywhere between eight and nine PPR points.
Theo Johnson, we think, might be more involved now that Neighbors is out. And Jake Tongass could
be more involved now that everyone is injured.
So that's a guy who's 6% rostered, Theo Johnson, 5% rostered.
How do you feel about Harold Fanon, Jr., compared to this group?
So I have them as dropped both Brown's tight ends, just because it's been pretty miserable
since week one for, well, miserable all season for Nojoku, miserable since week one for
Fanon.
There is now a path for them because of Tillman's absence, but as I think we've discussed,
Isaiah Bond kind of stepped in and took those opportunities.
I just don't think it's going to be consistent.
enough from them.
And what we were hoping for just hasn't materialized of Joe Flacco throwing the ball 40 plus
times on a consistent basis because their defense is so good, because now their run game is
so good, it's just not happening for Flacco and the pass catcher.
So you can hold if you want to.
I just think that there's, you know, like, yes, the tight end position feels gross.
There's also, like we just said, there's guys that have a chance to maybe step up and play
at a high level either for the upcoming week or for the next several weeks.
So for me, I'm moving on.
Yeah, I'm not so stressed about tight end this week
because I feel like there are, you know, a number of guys
with some good players on by,
but another guy we haven't talked about is Chig O'Conquo.
It's coming off a bad game,
but the two games before that, he was solid,
and the Cardinals are really bad against tight ends.
So Oconquo could be okay this week, you know?
And then it's kind of a long-term look.
Just keep an eye on Elijah Royo and Orronday Gats.
Then just like Mason Taylor,
they are seeing their roles increase.
Oh, actually, Taylor's had the role.
He's just getting the targets.
Gadsden and Arroyo are seeing the route participation go up.
You said you really had an opportunity for a good job there.
He says that you could have said,
Chig could be okay, Anquo.
That's pretty good.
Okay, DST's Cardinals are number one on Jamie's list
and number one overall for Jamie this week.
The Rams are 49% roster.
They get the Niners who are super beat up.
The chiefs are at the Jaguars.
Jaguars actually have not been a bad match.
It had not been a good matchup for DSTs.
They don't get sacked, I think.
And Trayvon Walker's banged up.
Cleveland is facing Minnesota with an injured offensive line
and the Giants are at New Orleans.
And then kicker, Chad Rylan, Josh Cardi, Jason Myers.
Okay.
I knew this is going to be a long one,
but this was an important show.
There's a lot of moving parts here,
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if there's any extended apps,
or anything like that, we'll do a bonus pod,
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