Fantasy Football Today - Week 10 NFL DFS Main Slate - Joe Burrow vs. the Houston Texans may save your slate

Episode Date: November 11, 2023

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We've got a 10 game slate. I'm pretty excited about it. Mike, how's everything going? Doing well. See, I fired up for this week. A lot of great games. This is obviously the NFL podcast, but college basketball is in full swing. Awesome college football games this week. And of course, a great 10-game NFL slate. I love these little smaller slates like this. I love when we have teams on by other teams on the primetime slate. So it makes things interesting. And I think there are a few very interesting matchups here this week. Totally agree. And it's funny you say that because I let you know, a lot of these high profile teams are either on a buy or they're just not playing on the main slate.

I like those slates personally. And talking about smaller slates, I'll tell everybody. And if you listen to our Tuesday show, Dave, thanks for being in the chat and saying this is one of the best parts of your Friday, by the way. You know, I haven't been great on the main slate, but where I've really been successful is either playing the early only slates. You know, I'm mixing those in with the main slate. And of course, I'm playing the afternoon slates. That's really where I've made a lot of my money here. So I just want to stress that upon people. Like we do like these smaller 10 game slates, Mike and I do at least, but you can make them even smaller and more narrow and really kind of narrow your player pool and who you're going to fire at with the afternoons it's a pretty low total um and I you know normally that wouldn't necessarily completely get me off of the game but this game seems to size up as sort of a a defense on defense matchup where I'm not necessarily you know wanting to play Lamar Jackson here I don't know which I really don't know which

running back to play like Gus Edwards he's getting all the touchdown equity, but if Keaton Mitchell is healthy, he popped up with a hamstring. If he's healthy, he could get some run. I don't think this is a Zay Flowers or Mark Andrews spot personally. And on the Browns side, I don't trust Deshaun Watson yet, and I'm not going to play Jerome Ford, Kareem Hunt, Pierre Strong. I'm not going to try to figure that one out at Baltimore. Are you on anything in this game?

I'm not. And I thought it might have been an interesting spot to play Lamar initially just because look, he's underperformed drastically because the team has been so good recently. I'm never going to say you can't play Lamar. Like you can certainly play Lamar in any matchup, but everything else, you know, you're right. It's a defensive battle in this game game Cleveland is a team that they're intelligent this is a matchup they're familiar with they know their path to victory is a low scoring game just keep it close and simply get to that fourth quarter so I am off of it the Ravens defense is so good in the red zone I think we're going to see some field goals again the only thing

that would ever be interesting here would be a showdown slate on it, but it's not big prize pools for it. So I'm going to be off this one completely. I totally agree. We're going to move on to the Texans and the Bengals, which is interesting on multiple fronts. But before we get there, Dave says, Hey, Mike, can we get a name for that jacket slash collar? Is there a name for that type of jacket by any chance? I don't know. It's a great company called State and Liberty run by some former athletes. They have a location here in Nashville. They believe they're from Michigan. I do not know the name of it other than Mr. Tim Tebow rocks this,

a different color of this one. Other than that, I don't remember the name. I just got them recently, and it was cold here in Nashville. I was running late because I'm putting 14 college basketball plays on Sportsline this morning. So I didn't take the jacket off from taking my dog outside. So that's why you get to see it today. I love it. And by the way, if you're not a member of Sportsline, like seriously, what are you doing? 14 plays from Mike. I wonder of those 14, the most high profile, at least for tonight would probably be Duke, Arizona.

And I'm not asking you to give me the pick. Is that one of the 14 by any chance? It is not one of the 14. These are all totals, by the way. Just betting. I bet a ton of totals. High volume. I'll bet probably 800 college basketball games this season.

Wow. Just a lot of volume on totals, which are extremely volatile. You'll see the market move three, four points at a time when some of these happen. I would say the highest profile game or games on here for me would be Texas A&M, Ohio State, and Florida, Virginia. I actually have the over in both of those games. And one more quickly for you.

Let's see. Gonzaga, interesting. I have an under on on the gonzaga game tonight all right you're you're listening to fft dfs and you're getting college picks from sports line if you want the other 11 just be a member of sports line i'm gonna put a play on there later today and certainly i put a i put an nfl bet on there actually uh earlier today in that san francisco uh jacksonville game which we'll get to texans plus six and a half at the bangles 46 and a half point total a lot of injuries to monitor here, obviously. Tee Higgins doesn't look

like he's going to play. Jamar Chase says he's going to play. We'll have to kind of wait and see. I imagine, Mike, he's a game time decision. I think that's kind of what we're looking at there. Nico Collins sat out of practice yesterday. Today's Friday. He sat out of practice yesterday, Thursday, with an injury. So, you know, this is just one of those interesting situations. Speaking of totals, we have a 46 and a half point total, but really if some of these players are out, this, this thing could go down dramatically. You know, I don't know how you want to sort of perceive things. Like I think Jamar Chase is going to play. I don't know about Nico Collins legitimately. But as I look at this game,

it's obviously going to be popular. I mean, a Joe Burrow stack makes sense to Jamar Chase, maybe a low price Tyler Boyd or Trenton Irwin is certainly in play here. And then on the way back, if Nico is out, if Nico is in, yeah, you can play him. But if he's out like Tank Dell, Noah Brown, like all of a sudden there's so much value that opens up in this game. Tank Dell 5,500, Noah Brown, 3,700. Dalton Schultz is in the mix at 4,900 if you want to pay up a little bit there. But Irwin's a flat 3K. Boy Dell, 5,500. Noah Brown, 3,700. Dalton Schultz is in the mix at 4,900, if you want to pay up a little bit there. But Irwin's a flat 3K. Boyd is 4,600. Chase, of course, pretty expensive at, let's see, 8,600. A lot to talk about here. I didn't even mention Joe Mixon at 6,200. I'm sorry. I'm just throwing stuff at you. How are you playing this one?

I'm definitely playing it. There's a lot to love here. Love the Cincinnati side. When you remove a guy like T. Higgins and potentially a banged up Jamar Chase, I think it just makes this game overly competitive. You know, it was kind of, there were a lot of people looking at the Texan side at times, even with thinking Higgins and Chase were both going to be in. CJ Stroud's been phenomenal and he's shown the ability that they can push opponents here. These games actually tend to shoot out. And I think that that's what we see here overall. So I love Joe Burrow. I'm going to be stacking him with whatever compliment of wide receivers are available. I'll play some Jamar Chase. I'll have lineup builds without Jamar Chase, even if he is

active. He took a massive fall there and it wouldn wouldn't shock me if he is limited if he does play. So love Trenton Irwin, love Tyler Boyd, love Joe Mixon. I think Mixon will just be involved in that passing game, but to me, this game projects as one where we could see both teams in the 30s, much like we just saw last week with Houston's game there. Let me ask you this. Let's project a little bit. This is the one o'clock game, of course, on Sunday. Let's assume Jamar Chase is a game time decision and that you are thinking, well, he's going to play, but that you're not sure he's going to be able to really be a full go. In other words, he's not going to be at a hundred percent. Is there a scenario where

you stack Joe Burrow, you'll leave out Jamar Chase. And if so, what does that stack look like? Yeah, definitely. You know, I think that it's one that I'll be building for sure, but what will happen in that spot is I'll be paying up for honestly the Chargers guys, which we'll get to that game in a bit. But I think the build where it looks like it's going to be a double stack or a full on onslaught. So if Chase is limited or out, it would be Burrow, Boyd, Irwin, and Mixon. If not, it would just be Mixon and Boyd. And then I would be paying up for guys like Keenan Allen, Andor, Austin, Eckler, Amandra St. Brown. Some of those guys, again, we'll get not to reveal too much.

We'll get to that game in a little bit. But that's basically what it would look like. If I were not playing Jamar Chase, I would essentially be loading up on the entire rest of the Bengals offense. And are you interested in a CJ Stroud stack? And if so, who would it be with knowing that Nico seems to be a little questionable? Yeah, I think Stroud is interesting. I'm probably just going to play Tank Dell and focus on the Sensi side a little bit more, but he's certainly shown the ability to compete in games like this. So if I were to play, I may probably be Tank Dell, Noah Brown. We'll see on Nico. I think Nico could definitely miss

this game. Yeah, I think I'm leaning that way too. It's funny because last week on the Tuesday show and on the Friday show, we talked about the Texan stack and I ended up playing it, but I only played it. And I don't have a lot of different stacks, as everybody knows. I only played it once, and it was with really the wrong guys. It was with Nico and not Tank Dell. So anyway, that one didn't pay off. But listen, I think C.J. Stroud could have some trouble with a Lou Anarumo defensive coordinator specifically.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't play him, though, because he could absolutely pop off. And I don't think this running game is really going to do much in general, including against the Bengals. So Irv Smith, he's not on your radar, right? Because it looks like Tanner Hudson and Drew Sample are getting too many looks. I mean, Irv Smith's only 2,700. That's why I'm bringing him up.

Yeah, so what I would say on the Irv Smith situation is he becomes playable if Jamar Chase is out. And what I mean by that is I think that they could slide him into a few more of those sets. He has run a route on a significant number of plays. But yeah, having Sample and the other guys out there, I think has not been an ideal situation. So a little too crowded and less Chase is out, in which case I think their offense obviously changes significantly, losing Higgins and Chase both. Yeah, and for the record, the Houston Texans secondary, the Cincinnati Bengals secondary, they give up plenty to quarterbacks and wide receivers. So

it's certainly, at least on paper, looks like a pretty good matchup. And I don't think the weather is an issue in this game. Now, the weather might be an issue in this next game, which is also another exciting one. 49ers minus three at the Jaguars. It's a 45-point total. I say the weather might be an issue in this next game, which is also another exciting one. 49ers minus three at the Jaguars. It's a 45-point total. I say the weather might be an issue because I think there's a pretty good chance of rain and there might be some wind. Mike, I don't know if you've checked the weather on this one, but last I checked, at least we're looking at like 15 to 20 mile per hour winds and certainly a good chance of rain.

I do think that impacts stacking this game to some degree. But listen, there's a lot of pieces here that I kind of like, too, including a potential Brock Purdy stack, whether you want to do that with CMC or Brandon Ayuk. I mean, Debo is healthy. So unfortunately, there's a lot of potential targets here. I haven't even mentioned George Kittle. On the other side, I think I like Calvin Ridley's matchup in this case a little bit better than Christian Kirk because the Niners have a little bit more trouble with outside receivers than guys that are lining up a little bit more inside. I

think Etienne is interesting. I don't think I'm going to get there with him, but do you like anything here? Yeah, this one is fascinating. There is something I like. I've said the guy's name a few times throughout the season, but it continues to be Evan Ingram only because of the target volume. You know, you look after week one this season, he has not had fewer than seven targets in a game. And again, we don't have Travis Kelsey here really to come rescue things. So I think this is an interesting spot overall at the tight end position this week. So you got Mark Andrews in that Cleveland matchup all the way up to 6,900.

You've got Kittle in this game at 61, but you could go play Evan Ingram who's all the way down to 4,500 with wide receiver-like target volume in a neutral or trailing game script. One where you're, again, looking for short area targets against a very good 49ers defense. So that is my primary focus on this game.

Secondary focus would be Christian McCaffrey. You mentioned the weather, the volume. against a very good 49ers defense. So that is my primary focus on this game. Secondary focus would be Christian McCaffrey. You mentioned the weather, the volume. There are a lot of mouths to feed in that offense, but in a competitive game, he is certainly the guy that they want to have the football in his hands. Yeah. So it's funny before the show I built, I should say, I tried to build a lineup with Jared Goff and Amon Ross St. Brown, who obviously I love both of them for, I think, reasons that are pretty obvious to everybody. And we'll get to that game. And I tried to put Christian McCaffrey in that lineup. It was a tournament lineup, by the way. I wasn't trying to build cash, although I think that's great for cash too. It didn't leave much. So I ended up, because I wanted other guys, I wanted like Keenan

Allen in my stack as my run back in that Detroit game. I ended up having to pivot off of Christian McCaffrey. And in this particular lineup, which I did, by the way, in like two minutes just before the show, so I didn't put a ton of thought into it. I ended up pivoting down from CMC to, of all players, Rashad White, who I literally haven't played all year. And now I might have to buckle and start playing him

because the guy's just getting so much of the running back touches. Again, we'll get there too. But the point is, I love CMC this week. It's going to, if you want like a high-end stack and maybe with like the Burrow stacks, if you're not playing Chase, then you can get away with, you know, putting CMC in those lineups.

But if you want to build like Goff or whatever, Herbert to Keenan or Goff to Amon Ross St. Brown, it's really hard to get, even if you're paying down at defense, paying down at tight end, really hard to get Christian McCaffrey in there. Are you interested in Ridley or Christian Kirk at all against this secondary that's been giving up some points here?

I'm not personally. The reason for that, though, is because I am going to be on a Joe Burrow stack overall, and that game environment, there's just so many little options there. So it's a game that I'm mostly going to be off outside of Evan Ingram, who is firmly in my player pool. Gotcha. options there. So I, it's a game that I'm mostly going to be off, uh, outside of Evan Ingram, who, who is firmly in my player pool. Gotcha. And shot asks, how do you feel about stacking CMC and Debo together? I personally don't like that. Mike, any, any thoughts there? Yeah, I really don't like it. Um, I think that you'd be better off, you know, I talk about this a lot, but I firmly believe it here. I think you'd be better off, uh off playing one that you really like more and then looking to the betting markets to try and get additional exposure to them. Because there's no

way they're going to be good enough in your lineup to have both for them to not hit some of their overs in the betting market. So I would much rather see you do that where they can just barely hit the overs, not be needed in the DFS side. So I do not, you know, it is a limited week and there are scenarios there, but the scenario where this team is scoring 35 points doesn't seem as likely here. All right, well, we're going to jump to the Packers and the Steelers,

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are you playing a three max and that's all you're playing for the week? I think if that's the case, I would personally, I would probably have maybe the same stack or maybe two stacks. I would have like two lineups with one stack and then, you know, in, in one of those lines, you're moving pieces around. And then if you like a second stack play, play that second stack as your third lineup. Mike, how would you play this? Yeah, it's very dependent on the week overall, but I keep extremely narrow player pools personally. So in my three max last week, I had two different quarterbacks total. It was two lineups with Dak and one with Jalen Hurts.

I had five lineups total using three quarterbacks. So I had two Jalen Hurts, two Dak and one Lamar. So my player pools are very, very narrow. So I typically like a lot of the weeks, I would say it's two quarterbacks total. So one quarterback in two of the three lineups and then another quarterback in the other would be what mine

looks like on average. But there certainly have been weeks where it's the same quarterback in all three, where I'm just simply getting exposure to some of the different value pieces, different defenses, things like that. Yeah. Just to expand real quick before we get to this Packers game. So let's just say you're doing this three. For me, I might have a three max that I'm doing, and I might have like four or five single entries that I'm doing. Like, let's just talk tournaments. So I have about eight lineups. It's very likely in most weeks,

I'm going to have just two stacks scattered across those eight lineups. And then I'm going to have just sort of different pieces in my pool filtering. And I'm trying to keep my player pool narrow as well. It's very, you know, there's been very few weeks so far where I've had like a third stack that I've put in. It's usually one primary one and then a secondary one that I really like. I just don't like as much as the other one.

And so I'm really just running those two stacks and then some pieces obviously around that for variation purposes. All right, let's move to the Packers and the Steelers. Not super intrigued by this game for obvious reasons. I mean, I think if you're playing like a showdown slate or something, which, you know, most people don't do, you know, during the main slate, I think guys like Aaron Jones are interesting at 6,500. He's starting to get work.

I'm not in love with this receiving core because I just don't know who's going to get the ball. And Jordan Love's just not a very good quarterback. And then on the other side, you know, I think there is some interest in guys like Najee Harris and Jalen Warren, just because they're so inexpensive. But again, I don't really want to have to pick and choose there. If anything, I'd be picking Jalen Warren in that spot. Deontay Johnson at 5,400, I think he presents value. But again, I don't think I'm getting there either.

Are you getting anywhere in this game? I'm really probably not. The guy that I liked initially and the computer likes a little bit is Aaron Jones, who you mentioned. I think we need to be a little careful with it though. I know it was encouraging to see 20 rushing attempts, 24 total touches, 26 if you count targets. A lot of that was game script specific though. They won that game 20 to three. I don't think that they're able to do that on the road in Pittsburgh here. So I think that I would be extremely, extremely cautious with that. He is someone that when healthy, when right, he should be that $7,500 player to 8K player.

Much like we talked about that kind of progression with Alvin Kamara early this season. That's where we're at with Jones. I just wish the matchup was different because Pittsburgh is very stingy defense. It is a road game. So the computer likes it more than I like it personally. I probably am going to ignore what the computer wants and be off of them just a little bit. And then if I had to play something, it might be a receptions over market where I think he will be. The path to him having a big day is going to be through the

receiving game. Okay, let's move on because I don't think we really need to talk too much about that game. This game has a little bit of intrigue to me Titans plus one at the box. It's a 39 point total. You know, I don't know that I want to necessarily buy in on Will Levis in terms of him being like a great DFS option, but he is only 5,300. I think that's notable. What's more notable, in my opinion, is that he's more expensive than Baker Mayfield at 5,100. And we know there's situations where Baker Mayfield can certainly air it out. He doesn't always look like the best quarterback, but that doesn't mean – it's kind of like the Derek Carr experience.

It doesn't mean that they don't stack up yards and have some weapons that can take house calls. So I think Baker at 5,100 is interesting against the Titans back end that isn't very good. Now, granted, this might be kind of a slow run fest type game, especially on the Titans side. But we have pieces here, Mike. I mean, Rashad White at 5,800. We have Mike Evans at 7,200, kind of expensive. Chris Godwin at 6,700, not super interested in that. Otten, somebody I mentioned last week, he's up 400 now from 3,000 to 3,400. DeHop, 6K. I'm not saying you should be interested in this game,

but I'm just curious, are you? I'm not super interested in it, but I will take some shots in tournaments in a one-off with DeAndre Hopkins. I think it's very clear that Will Levis likes him and trusts him and wants to hit that big play, right? That's what they want to do. That's what he wants to do. And DeAndre Hopkins is frankly very good at catching footballs in those situations still. 11 targets in the last game, the efficiency is the question, right? I think that Tampa Bay has generally kind of been a pass funnel. They kind of encourage some

of that. So I do like Hopkins. I'm not going to go to the extent that I'm going to stack Will Levis with them and think we're getting three plus touchdowns. I do think we can have the 50-yard touchdown that allows him to be a good play. Again, he's 6K. He's not 7K. Shorter slate overall. So I like Hopkins, but that is going to be it for me. How about on the other side? Because we have, first of all, I mean, speaking of one-offs, let's say you were just going to do like, I know you only do your five lines, but like for somebody who just wanted to have like a one-off lineup, would Baker Mayfield at 5,100 at least enter the conversation with, for example, Mike Evans and a D-hop run back? And by the way, the answer can

be no there. How do you feel about Rashad White? That's my second question. Yeah. So Baker actually does enter the player pool via the computer. When I tell it to build, say 50 lineups here, he is firmly showing up. So that part is fascinating. And again, it's a price point thing, 5,100. He, I mean, we could talk about other games. We might go back to that one. Josh Dobbs is 5,500 Baker Mayfield's still cheaper than Josh jobs. Jobs has been phenomenal. No doubt. But Baker Mayfield has been a legitimate starting quarterback here against, you know, it gets a home game here. So yes, he's certainly in play and you can do a lot of interesting things with the rest of your lineup. If you play them, I don't even think you need to stack them with anyone. I think

you could play just Baker Mayfield and build the lineup out the rest of the way you want. Interesting. Yeah, we talked about that the other day. I'm trying to remember which quarterback it was, but we had a really low-priced option, and the thought was, yeah, just take that low-priced option. He'll hit value and then build your lineup however you want. I think that's a very interesting way to approach it. I might, like I said, I might finally buckle and play Rashad White this week just because there's not a lot of value run, at least at this point. It's Friday. Value could open up at the running back position, maybe, but Rashad White does appear to be one of the few values, in my opinion, in that 5K range. You mentioned the Saints and the Minnesota Vikings. Let's talk

about that game next. We've got a 40.5 point point where i should say a 41 point total saints favored by three here uh you mentioned josh jobs man what like what a game for him i mean he had a lot of errors too let's let's be very clear on that but a really spirited effort considering he barely knew the playbook or his players i think there's something really interesting brewing here and maybe you can let us know from an ownership standpoint because for the last few weeks alvin kamara has been like listen people just want to play alvin kamara but this might be the week where people are finally off of them and it makes sense right because tasem hill is vulturing a lot of touchdowns jamal williams is back and by the way kamara just hasn't been super great over the last couple of weeks is Is this the time where maybe we can grab a super contrarian for once, Alvin Kamara?

It is. I love Alvin Kamara in this particular spot. Yeah, you know, the passing game work has still been there, really. Five targets last two games, not the 14 that we've seen a couple times, but he's still managed to turn those into, you know, 90 receiving guards combined over the last two games. He just simply didn't land in the end zone last week uh and a lot of it was tasem hill i don't know that you can consistently bank on tasem hill taking all that volume all that work so i like kamara here

uh the price point is it's right at that number we've been calling for essentially uh for the last five weeks right we alvinvin Kamara should be $8,000 to $8,500 depending on the matchup. He's finally there and now nobody wants to play him. I've got him projected for less than 5% ownership. He has three touchdown upside. He has 10 reception upside in most every game that he plays, frankly. So I like him a lot. I will be playing him. Not going to be a lock button situation. He won't be in all five of my lineups. Won't be across the board in cash games or anything like that. But certainly going to be playing Alvin Kamara.

So anybody else on the Saints side, particularly, like I'm not really looking to stack Derek Carr. But Taysom Hill was 4,700 last week. And so this is a little contrarian to what we just talked about, right? I mean, I wouldn't play Kamara and Taysom Hill was 4,700 last week. And so this is a little contrarian to what we just talked about, right? I mean, I wouldn't play Kamara and Taysom Hill in the same lineup, of course, but in the non-Kamara lineups at Taysom Hill at 5,100 at the, again, at the tight end position, is he somebody you're considering or is he starting to price himself out and you're just looking for variants from him in terms of maybe not being as productive as he has the last couple of weeks? Yeah, I'm going to continue to sit it out. Obviously, he's been phenomenal, and it has been the last four weeks

that's happened like that. But I'm still going to be off of it at this point. So he's run pretty hot in terms of scoring touchdowns overall. Again, incredible athlete. There's a lot you could say about him there. An incredible weapon, you know, both in fantasy and real life football, uh, just not something that I think the volume is high enough for me. So I'd rather bet the other side of it. And what I mean by bet the

other side of it is bet Alvin Kamara. Uh, so I'm going to be off of Taysom Hill again. Yeah. You gotta, you gotta make your call. If you're big on Alvin Kamara in a contrarian spot, then you're big on Alvin Kamara in a contrarian spot. That probably means Taysom Hill doesn't have the production he has, but certainly he's a viable option. Listen, if you don't like Alvin Kamara, feel free to play Taysom Hill because that also makes a lot of sense. We had a question I wanted to get to before we get to the four o'clock slate of games. Oh, it was about any concern for uh somebody asked about davante adams it was really a redraft question but yeah i have a lot of concern for davante adams personally against the jets coming up and in general i mean i think aiden o'connell is okay but i i don't think

uh we're gonna see a ton of spike games from davante adams you agree mike yeah i don't i don't think we're seeing it um yeah i i think that it's time to kind of move on at that, at least in going to be out of this game. Obviously, Justin Jefferson isn't back. So it's really the Jordan Addison show. I mean, by the way, Alexander Madison to 5,500, like there's some value there because we know, unfortunately, Cam Akers tours Achilles again, opposite side this time. So it's going to be a lot of Alexander Madison and maybe Powell is really on the field pretty much the whole time here at 3,200. Any of those two guys popping up in your model? Yeah, I mean, I think you could definitely play either of them. This is another one.

You know, if you remember last week, we talked about it a little bit ahead of time. Like this was a total we liked last week over with Atlanta, Minnesota, super low total. Just games tend to kind of shoot out like that. With a guy like Dobbs playing there, I think that's going to be especially true again. So I do like any of the, the pass catching options, frankly, and Madison can be thrown into that mix as well. You know,

Hawkinson's coming in with a questionable tag. He plays, I like him. If he doesn't play, I like Powell a lot more. Just the, they're essentially out of options and Dobbs does some magical things there. They are out of options. They're receivers behind Brandon Powell, Tristan Jackson, Nikhil

Harry, Jalen Naylor. By the way, Ed, any concerns with Kamara's diminished role? Yes, of course. That's why he's contrarian. That's the game we're playing. Everybody has concerns about his diminished role, which is keeping his ownership percentage down, but if he has that spike game, which we know Kamara can have, and if the role kind of is rejuvenated because Taysom Hill isn't getting a lot of that stuff near the goal line, then all of a sudden Alvin Kamara spikes. He has that Alvin Kamara game, and he's only at 5% or 4% ownership. That's, again, sort of that tournament game that we have to play

if we want to spike a tournament. All right, well, we're going to spike to the four o'clock games. But before we do that, let's hear a message from our partners. All right. We go to the Lions and the Chargers. I mean, this is certainly the marquee game of the week from a DFS standpoint. And obviously, you could argue that the Bengals game versus Houston is also that game. But again, that game, we really have to monitor the injuries a lot.

This game, we pretty much know who's playing. And that includes David Montgomery, who is back and has been practicing this week. He's 6,900. So that, you know, it begs the question, what's his split going to be with Jameer Gibbs? You know, how much, you know, between the tackles, is he going to be running versus Jameer Gibbs? That's a situation I think I kind of want to avoid. I don't want to avoid Jared Goff to Amon Ross St. Brown.

I don't want to avoid Jared Goff to Amon Ross St. Brown and Sam Laporta. Laporta 5,700, Amon Ross 8,300, Goff 6,400. Pretty expensive once you put all three of those in play, especially if you want to run it back with Keenan Allen. But all those names I just mentioned, I really like. How are you playing this game? Yeah, I like them all. I just love this game in general.

We've talked about it a number of times, but the Detroit side is a side that I want to play when they're playing in a controlled environment in a dome. That is where their offense seems to hum, and I really like it. And then you look at the Chargers side. It's a team that we've all known how talented they can be at times. They always tend to underperform, at least in terms of winning actual football games. They're banged up, right? And we know that Keenan Allen and Austin Eckler are getting the usage.

Look at Austin Eckler's last game. I know they played the Jets there. Seven targets, only caught two of them. That is very, very rare for that. So I think there's a ton of room left there. I like both sides of this game, but I think I'm higher on the Chargers side than the market seems to be. I think this game is going to be extremely, extremely competitive. And I don't think the Lions are necessarily as great as people think they are. And I don't think

the Chargers are as bad as people think they are. So I think we get a competitive game with at least a lot of yards between the 20s, which is going to be great for DFS. So on the Herbert side, that's certainly going to be less popular, partly because it's certainly more expensive, like Herbert to Keenan Allen, that's $7,700 to $8,800. Is that how you're playing that stack? I mean, you mentioned Austin Eckler. So give me maybe one or two stacks or one or two ways to play that charger side. Yeah, so the charger side, I should clarify on that. I'm still mostly going to be on the Joe Burrow stacks. I'm just going to be sprinkling in and building core lineups with guys like Keenan Allen and

Austin Eckler. So what may happen is I may actually not play as much Jamar Chase, focus on the secondary options with Higgins out and Chase potentially limited, and instead insert guys like Austin Eckler, Keenan Allen, Amonra St. Brown. So I'll be heavily, heavily involved in this game. But where I'd really like, if you're just talking game stack overall, I'd honestly rather play the Lions side with the stack itself and then use Eckler and Keenan Allen as those bring-back options. Gotcha. Okay.

And is there a scenario where you'd have a golf stack without Amon Ross St. Brown? Probably not, but it is certainly still viable. It would be with Laporta for sure, and it would have a minimum of either Eckler or Allen and potentially both on the bring back. Yeah, speaking of Laporta, the Chargers are straight up terrible covering the tight end. So I think Laporta is in for, he's usually in for a great day. I think it's even a bigger day maybe than people expect here

because of how the Chargers cover the tight end. And for the record, Amon Roth, like the Chargers also play, but more zone than most teams. And I think Amon Roth, like that's really good for Jared Goff and Amon Roth St. Brown specifically. Any cheap options on either side? Like I look at the Chargers side, I see Quinton Johnston, 4,100. Jalen Guyton got a couple of targets last week. And I had just, you know, it was, it was surprising to me because I just haven't seen him on the field in so long. Cause they have so many other guys like Davis and DeAndre Carter. He's a flat three K. He ran a lot of routes. He just only got the two targets, but anybody you're interested as a cheap kind of pay down option in this game on either side.

Uh, you know, I think that it's always interesting when you have a guy like Guyton, he he's one that's going to be a deep threat for sure. I'm probably not going to get there. I think a lot of the industry is going to focus on Trenton Irwin on the Cincinnati side, especially if Chase gets ruled out. So I'm probably going to be off of it. I think Johnson is fine at 4,100. I'd like to see, you know, frankly, we haven't really seen much from him, uh, in terms of really spiking. So I think a lot of it's still going to be Austin Eckler and Keenan Allen on that side. So, uh, for me, it, it's a really attractive game environment overall, but I think the reason it's so attractive is we kind of know where the volume's going. Yeah, that makes sense. Uh, by the

way, Kyle, your question about Tyler Lockett, we're going to get to that in two games when we get to the commanders at the Seahawks. But first, let's go to the Falcons minus two at the Cardinals. I mean, this is a really interesting game. Kyler Murray, officially the starter for the Cardinals. So that's just interesting in and of itself. It looks like James Connor is going to play in this one, should be activated off IR. We'll have to make sure we get that confirmed. Heineke is going to be the quarterback for Atlanta, 5,100. That's the same price as Baker Mayfield

if you want to kind of just contrast and compare which low QB option you might want to play in one or two lineups. I think the issue with Heineke is who's the receiver of choice? Who's he actually going to be throwing to? And you can't even really grab Kyle Pitts out of that because Johnny Smith usually gets more run on that Arizona side. Marquise Brown at 5,200 makes sense. Trey McBride at 3,500 makes sense. Are you interested in a stack in this one? Like, and by the way, I'm not asking like you specifically, cause, cause we already know

like Joe Burrow is going to, you know, make to make most of your alarms, maybe a couple in that Chargers game. But in terms of showing up in your model, do Kyler or Heineke show up at all? That is a good question. Yes, Kyler Murray does show up near the bottom. About the same kind of exposure as guys like Dobbs Howell and Purdy but playable 5900 you know who knows what the rushing upside really looks like at this point but yeah certainly playable you know when he's healthy when everything's right and when the team is trying to win games he's you know a $7,000 quarterback not a $5,900 quarterback so

I do not mind anyone playing Kyler Murray. By the way, I misspoke about Taylor Heineke in the sense that I said, who's the receiver of choice? Well, that's still a question, but Drake London wasn't there last week and he's practicing in full this week. So I would imagine Drake London is the receiver of choice here. Listen, this Cardinals back end, it's not very good. the game conditions should be very good is is a heineke drake london stack in play at all for you it's not where i'm going to be but again it's one that uh if it got there it wouldn't shock me at all like i think that could that combination get you 40 fantasy points yeah i think it's very possible in this matchup so uh yeah go ahead go ahead no i was gonna say you know this is an interesting one for maybe and get you 40 fantasy points? Yeah, I think it's very possible in this matchup.

Yeah, go ahead. No, I was going to say, you know, this is an interesting one for maybe the afternoon slate, like with the four games where you play that Heineke stack with Drake London, and you just hope Heineke treats Drake London like he treated Terry McLaurin and just kind of force feeds him the ball, maybe some medicine balls in there too, unfortunately. But maybe you run it back with Marquise Brown or Trey McBride. And then what does that allow you to do in that afternoon slate? It allows you to go up to that Chargers Lions game and grab a couple of big time pieces. And then, you know,

what your hope there of course is that, that, that the Jared Goff stacks don't exactly work out. The, the Justin Herbert stacks don't exactly work out, but the pieces that you got do work out. So Mike, how do you think, is that at least an option for the afternoon slate? Yeah, for the afternoon slate, I think it's definitely an option. It's always interesting to talk about the differences between the main slate and the afternoon slate, more so than really any of the other weeks. I think it's very true this week. When you look at it, I think that everything is going to be that Detroit-LA game. Dallas is just a massive, massive favorite we'll talk about in a minute. So, yeah, I think that out of all the games here,

the one that could shoot out and, like, really change that slate, it's this Atlanta-Arizona game. Like, it wouldn't shock me if both teams approached, you know, 28 to 30 points in this game. Yeah, it wouldn't shock me at all either. So before we get to that Dallas game, your top three at each position, our cheat sheets, which we're going to do rapidly.

Let's go, Commanders, plus six and a half at the Seahawks. I want to start with a question. Kyle Priest in our chat was asking about Tyler Lockett, who, by the way, is 6,100, JSN, 4,100, DK Metcalf, 6,800. I bring up the receivers because they're playing Washington, and this is a back end that can absolutely get exposed. Not much of a pass rush now that Montez Sweat, Chase Young are gone. I wonder if a Geno stack is in play,

but when I look at Lockett at 6,100 to Kyle's question, I love that. I mean, DK Metcalf still a little banged up. JSN might get some run, but Lockett's healthy. He's practicing. It seems like a pretty good spot for him. It's a very good spot for him. And Gino Smith definitely in play for me. One of the quarterbacks showing up the most when I tell it to build lineups, it's Gino Smith right up there. 5,800. I like it a lot. Honestly, I think this is a great, great matchup for the Seattle team to really kind of get right and put up a big performance at home. So I like Geno Smith.

I like Tyler Lockett a ton. Any interest in Kenneth Walker at 6800? I think he's priced a little too high for this slate personally. He is healthy though. And we know this Washington defense can kind of bend and break through four quarters any interest there i don't have a ton of interest there uh i i get why there would be some um i think the the scenarios where he's going to have you know 20 carries again i i think are relatively limited i i don't think that we see that. So I know that he is healthy, was dealing with the chest injury. You know, look, he's had a number of minor injuries throughout the season. I don't think this is a spot where they just go overuse him overall. So I'm going to stay off of it. But he certainly can have a lot of red zone work. Absolutely. I totally agree. On the Washington side, I don't think I'm going to get to Sam Howell this week. I wouldn't argue with anybody that wanted to because just their pass rate is unbelievable. And in a negative game script, it likely stays unbelievable. So I mean, I'm not completely ruling out Sam Howell. He is spreading it around a little bit too much. So he

feels like a hard guy to stack these days. But I mean, obviously Sam Howell, to Terry McLaurin or Jahan Dotson, Curtis Samuels healthy. I mean, there's so many receivers, Jameson Crowder, Deami Brown, Byron Pringle's getting a lot of run at 3k. So I can't imagine stacking Sam Howell, which is probably why I'm off the bat side. Are you also off of it? I'm off that side. If you told me you needed me to play a Sam Howell lineup to me it would be Jahan Dotson uh look I like the volume increase that we've seen I think he's back I think that they've got a good thing going on right now yes they've scored he scored touchdowns in each of the last two games but it's really the volume for me 26 targets over the last three games uh one of those games against the Eagles one against the Patriots let's play games. One of those games against the Eagles, one against the Patriots, let's play slow. And one of those games, it was a seven to 14 final score against the Giants. So he's getting volume even in a variety of different game scripts. I think Johan Dotson is the preferred

option if I had to stack it. Yeah, I think he's a really good receiver to keep an eye on him the next couple of years. Obviously, he's a great prospect. So it's not like he's under the radar. But what is under the radar is the Giants doing anything against the Cowboys. And by the way, who is it? It is Greg who says you have a question. We're gonna get to that when we get to Mike's top three in terms of a quarterback for cash line. So Giants plus 17 at the Cowboys 38 and a half point total. I don't really know what to say about this game. I'm not playing any Giants, although I don't think you can even make the argument for really any Giants, to be honest with you. Cowboys is a different story. I'm not playing any of the receivers. I'm not playing Dak. However, I think Pollard is at least interesting. I don't think

I'm getting to Pollard personally, but I think he's interesting. I honestly think Rico Dowdle is interesting at 4,300 because of how this game may get out of hand and i this cowboys team is a super bowl aspiring team they might they might want to after a half if they're up you know 14 17 points maybe they pull pollard maybe i just made that up maybe pollard plays three and a half quarters i don't know how you playing this game mike yeah it wouldn't shock me at all if pollard uh doesn't get all the work, all four quarters. If they're up that big, I think that they definitely pull him. I still like him. I think he's playable.

If there's a time for him to find the end zone and potentially twice, it's definitely the first half of this game. So I like him. My primary focus here will still be paying all the way up for the Cowboys' defense at 4,400. There's enough value out there this week, in my opinion, that I think you could justify that price tag on the Dallas defense. It wouldn't shock me if the Giants didn't score in this game or scored less than 10 points. I will say this since we don't talk about defense as much.

When I was putting my lineup together before the show, there were some pay down defenses that I liked. Arizona at 2,500 at home against Atlanta is okay. If you believe in the Jaguars, they're 2,400 at home against Brock Purdy and company. Not something I'm probably going to play, but I thought it was worth pointing out. Let's see the Bengals. No, I probably wouldn't do that,

but there's a couple of paid on options like the ones I just mentioned are at least decent. But, yeah, I agree. Certainly the Cowboys are very much in play. And by the way, Smith Waller says, is Brian Robinson any interest there with the Seahawks defense? Absolutely not for me. Mike, same answer. With the Seahawks defense?

I don't know. No, Robinson versus the Seahawks. Oh, versus. Yes. No interest in Robinson. I actually have interest in the Seahawks defense. You mentioned the pass volume. That's what you're looking for with defenses, right? You're looking for potentials to have sacks and interceptions, turnovers. When you're throwing the football that

many times in a road environment, way more opportunities for an interception. Yeah, I think that I like the Seattle defense. I like the Dallas defense and I like the Arizona Cardinals defense. All right. I like it. You got a pay down option and two pay up options there. All right. Let's look at Mike's top three options at each position.

We're going to start at the quarterback. And when you're done with the quarterback, I want you to I want you to rank them for cash games as well. The three that you have here. Geno Smith is number two. Three off. He he's not number one he's number two for me uh Joe Burrow is number one by a good margin for me uh but then it's Gino Smith and then Jared Goff those are the three teams and game environments that I really like this week uh as far as cash games I think that it's probably still Burrow for me, but it could be Geno down at the price point there. All three of them are cash game viable. All three of them are certainly tournament viable, but those are the three I like the most. Yeah. And I'll throw in for my cash game,

it's probably going to be, I'll probably do one or two and it might be Jared Goff in both, but I certainly like Joe Burrow there too. So it's going to be, it's going to be one of those two for sure as my cash game quarterbacks. Running back, who are your top three? By the way, we've got plenty of people watching. Not many people have hit the like button yet. Try to remember to do that for all the shows, but including this one, we still have some time left for you to do that. Mike, your top three at running back. Yes. Starting with Tony Pollard pollard again the order on this it's not a definitive one two three always and that's definitely the case this week important to preface that uh tony pollard's just the guy that showed up in the computer the most it makes sense

dallas is a big favorite uh they typically lean on running backs in that spot i do have some concerns if he doesn't get a ton of volume in the first half that it may not work out but i'm gonna play him number two austin eckler i love austin eckler this week i like the chargers to keep the game competitive uh and be in that game script where they have the opportunity to rack up fantasy points um so i love austin eckler and then joe mixon i think that cincinnati when you lose t higgins you have a banged up jamar Chase. They've shown the willingness to still give him the football. It's a game against the Texans that they have an offense that can push, a defense that definitely surrenders yards. So those would be my top three running backs there. All right. Wide receiver. Tyler Boyd, number one right now. Just the price point,

Chief. That is enough with the squeaking toys, by the way, buddy. But yeah, Tyler Boyd. I love the Bengals offense this week, regardless of who is catching passes. Number two, Amonra St. Brown. Again, love this guy. Love this offense when it's in a dome, in a controlled environment, against an overrated defensive unit in the Chargers. And then finally, Keenan Allen. Target volumes there going up against Detroit.

I think they're going to have to pass the ball quite a bit in this game. So it's Tyler Boyd, Amonra St. Brown and Keenan Allen. All right. And that's tight end. You got three here. Yeah, I listed Trey McBride first. I will give you a full disclosure on that. I may come back off of him a little bit now that we know it's Kyler. We know that Connor could potentially be there. The offense could look drastically different. So I may come off of Trey McBride just a little bit.

If I do, it'll probably be in favor of a guy like Evan Ingram. But the other two I like, Dalton Schultz and Sam Laporta. Love Laporta for the Lions. We talked about the Lions. Love that. And then Dalton Schultz, just that game environment overall, I think that he's a sneaky, sneaky bring back against Cincinnati. Yeah, I really can't wait to hear, especially with that game, the injury news, because like about Jamar

Chase kind of in particular, and we honestly might not know until he's actually on the field, but that game has a lot of intrigue. There's obviously two like high profile games on this slate. You can go other directions, but that game has a lot of intrigue to me. All right, my cheat sheet. Let's start with me. I'm going to go Jared Goff. I mean, I spoiled this a long time ago. Jared Goff, 6,400 to Amon Ross St. Brown at 8,300. Oh, this is last week's cheat sheet, by the way, which I don't want you to put up because it was Mac Jones. Listen, I took a gamble. It didn't work out. Washington defense. What are you going to do? But I've got Jared Goff, 6,400 to Amon Ross St. Brown, 8,300. Trenton Irwin's my value at 3,000, you know, kind of gambling there. Let's wait on the news, but it does look like, you know, he's going to be on the field. So at a flat 3k on

a slate where I want to really pay up for my stack and I've got some, some receivers in particular, I want to pay up to, I'm going to have to pay down somewhere. So maybe there'll be other pay down options in that like 3k to 3,200 range range like Brandon Powell. So if Irwin gets super popular in tournaments, I might switch off of him to a guy like Brandon Powell or somebody else in that range. Rashad White, first time I've mentioned his name in terms of the fact that I'm playing him. He's 5,800. So I'm going to go ahead and take that value there. I think Alexander Madison is in play there, by the way, in terms of he's not going to be chalk, but I'm saying in that mid 5K range, I think he's in play. My contrarian is going to be Alvin Kamara. Finally, nobody's going to be on him. Let's see if he pops. My fade is going to be CeeDee Lamb. I'm seeing that ownership is actually kind of collecting on CeeDee Lamb, not in a huge way,

but in a way that I'm kind of surprised, like in that 15, 16% range. Maybe that goes down, but for now, he's looking to be at least reasonably popular. So I'm definitely fading him at 8,500. Mike, your cheat sheet. All right. We're going to start with Joe Burrow. And right now it's going to be two Tyler Boyd, but you can really make this any of them, whether it's Chase or even Trent Irwin. I think that he's going to be viable. So I love that call out by you. He was almost my value play. I listed McBride as my value play for now this might be subject to change i will update it over on sportsline in the dfs article if i'm for some reason coming off of

trey mcbride completely um but right now he's still a fine value play chalk play going to be joe mixon for me again very heavy on cincinnati i think that the texans offense is going to be able to push enough to push the Cincinnati offense overall. I think Joe Mixon is going to have a heavy, heavy workload, both on the ground and in the passing game. Contrarian play like you, I love Alvin Kamara here, 8,300. I think there is a kind of a lack of like real massive upside players on this slate overall. And it's not a $9,000 price point like we had seen with some of the wide receivers. So I like Kamara here.

And then I'm going to fade Marquise Brown at 5,200. He's projecting for some ownership. He gets his quarterback back here in Kyler Murray and a very favorable matchup still against Atlanta's secondary. So I'm going to fade him though at 5,200. It's close enough in range to guys like DeAndre Hopkins, Tyler Lockett, Tyler Boyd's cheaper, just some of those better teams overall. Now that Marquise is getting some ownership, I'm going to sit that one out. Yeah. As much as I like that Atlanta, Arizona game as like a possible

tournament play, particularly on the afternoon slate, like we can't just assume Kyler Murray, I mean, it can happen, but we can't just assume Kyler Murray is going to step back in and we're going to see the same Kyler Murray we saw before the injury where he's peppering Marquise Brown he's running around out of the pocket like he's coming off a major injury and frankly I'm surprised he's even playing this season but again we're going to see some rust like we see with all quarterbacks that miss a ton of time and that rust might last throughout the entire season so don't be mad at kyler murray if he has a bad game because i just don't expect him to be firing on all cylinders game one even against a bad atlanta defense i i kind of hope he does because i'm playing the afternoon slate

and i want to have a lineup where that game goes back and forth so i'm gonna play it but it's i don't have like super high expectations that kyler murray is going to be the same kyler murray yeah all right um i think that does it. I think we answered Kyler or Baker is the question. I would go Baker. Are you talking DFS, I assume? I would go Baker because of the price point. What do you say on that one, Mike? I'll lean to Baker. Kyler, he's got a ton of upside, but knowing that James Conner likely back there too, I think that hurts Kyler a bit in the red zone and just from a volume standpoint overall.

So I I'll go Baker there. All right. And we I have to answer his questions because we to kick because he's always in this chat. We really appreciate that. He says better Atlanta run back Drake London or Bijan Robinson. I should say Bijan Robinson. I would say Drake London, Mike. What would you say? Yeah, I'll say Drake London at this point. Robinson, it's too inconsistent in terms of some of the volume there. He's clearly talented. He does make the player pool overall when I run a bunch of lineups. But if you're talking like capturing upside, all those kind of things on a true bring back, it would be Drake London. All right. And this isn't a question.

It's a statement. We're going to end our show with this. Shad says, don't forget, Call of Duty came out today. Fade Kyler Murray. I mean, that's actually pretty good advice. I'm not going to lie to you. All right, everybody. That's fantasy football today, DFS.

Hopefully you enjoyed the show. Like Mike said, if he has updates, he's going to put them up on Sportsline. But certainly you can message me if you have any questions or you can tweet at us, at Mike or myself, and we'll try to answer your questions too. Hopefully you have a great Week 10. We'll see you again on Tuesday. It'll be me and Meg Shoup. And, of sale,

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