Fantasy Football Today - Week 10 Recap! Cam Newton, A.J. Dillon, Pats RBs and More (11/14 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 15, 2021

We had some star QBs deliver duds in Week 10, but let's focus on the positive with the biggest winner (2:30) of the week! But also, let's get the biggest loser (3:50). And we'll talk about early waivers (6:00) with guys like D'Onta Foreman and Rhamondre Stevenson ... News and notes (8:15) with our thoughts on A.J. Dillon and a new segment called "Well, I Didn't See That Coming! (12:00)" We react to surprise performances by Russell Wilson, Antonio Gibson, Tom Brady and D'Andre Swift ... Winners (21:00) like DeVonta Smith and Jakobi Meyers and losers (31:00) including Amari Cooper and T.J. Hockenson. And we recap each game with our Fantasy takes (41:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. All right, let's wrap up week 10. Already a mess up, one sentence in. That's not boding well. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Heath Cummings talking about the Sunday action here. The Aaron Jones injury.

Christian McCaffrey probably going to be okay, but he left early as well. And we have more exciting things to talk about as well, like big performances. Oh, Russell Wilson's back. No more pin. Time to win. Aaron Rodgers is back. Great stuff. Dave, I think you have a mathematical trivia question for us.

Oh, and boy, is it a great trivia question, everybody. If you had Aaron Rodgers and Carson Wentz and Russell Wilson, and let's just throw in Matt Ryan as well, you still wouldn't have as many fantasy points as... Can I say that now, Adam? It's Matt Ryan, Carson Wentz, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, all added

together is less than... Cam Newton. No. No, I don't think so. Nope. Kirk Cousins. If we take Russ out of there, then it's the same as Cam Newton. Kirk. No, I don't think so. Nope. Kirk Cousins. If we take Russ out of there, then it's the same as Cam Newton. Kirk Cousins. Nope. You guys are...

Really? You're thinking about mediocre quarterbacks. You got to start thinking bigger. You got to start thinking stronger. You got to start thinking about the greats in the National Football League. You've got to think about Trevor Simeon. You got to think about legends Simeon. You've got to think about legends when it comes to fantasy football.

You've got to think of Mike McCorkle Jones. Oh, yeah, that's true. Mac Jones, big game for him. Mac was pretty good, too. We've got a Believe It or Not about that coming up. The closest Believe It or Not poll I've ever run. Oh, I know it's going to be Mac Jones is the best rookie quarterback, right?

No, not just that. Okay. Okay, great. Looking forward to it. Who's the biggest winner he's biggest winner in week 10 oh i wasn't right for the question the winners you gave me were cam it's a bad it's a bad question because i went with a little bit of different angle with my winners this week. But I will say nobody by Cam Newton, the fact that he gets to go back to Carolina and score touchdowns on his first two plays with the Panthers. And they just whip Arizona to put Carolina. I think right now in the playoffs.

And now he gets to take over as a starting quarterback. Like how happy do you have to be for that guy? They did not commit to that, by the way. They did not commit to Cam starting next week. They didn't commit to it, but literally Matt Rule said that that's where they're at. Okay, okay. Yeah, it's great.

And he scored a rushing touchdown and threw a touchdown. He had four pass attempts. I guess a little credit to P.J. Walker. Probably played it pretty conservatively. Almost everything went to Christian McCaffrey. The Cardinals quit early. Yes. Really, really early.

Their coaches and everybody, they gave up very fast. All right, big winners, Cam Newton. Dave, who's the biggest loser? The biggest loser might not even be somebody on my list. I might say that the biggest loser, I mean, you could, like, throw a rock and hit a quarterback. And that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to say Russell Wilson was a humongous loser.

Coming back from the hand surgery maybe a little bit too soon, going up against this Packers defense that doesn't have a lot of like big name marquee talent but they are just scheming up against everybody and really limiting the big plays and you saw it in Tyler Lockett's stat line I don't know how people are gonna people are still gonna continue to start Tyler Lockett but man what a mess DK Metcalf stat line stunk and Russ was just off he was brutal he does not look like he's okay i've never i don't remember seeing him throw the ball and misfiring like that that often and he's never been shut out for an entire game so i think we can say it's unprecedented he does not look like

he's okay and it's arizona next week at home so i don't know if i'm gonna feel great starting russell wilson next week i mean the biggest loser was probably our friend and i won't name any names in our dynasty league who faced a team that sat michael carter and cd lamb and tony pollard and played someone on a bye illegally. And still is going to win by 40 points. Congratulations, Dave. Stop tanking, for God's sake. You obviously have a good team. I am the king of tanking incorrectly. I cannot tank.

It can't be done for me. Like, Heath, you're the god when it comes to tanking when I try to play and I set a lineup and I'm really trying to win I lose and when I start Aziz Ojulari on his bye week and PJ Walker quarterback I spent how much did I spend a fab like a third of my fab on PJ Walker because I'm trying to tank and I figure well he's going to be the quarterback for Carolina the rest of the way. That's out the freaking window. And I win.

Against a team that was in the playoff contention. Are you not in playoff contention? Oh, yeah. Dave's a half game out. Technically, I am. Yeah, good. All right. So Dave's the biggest loser, I guess.

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obviously in super shallow leagues, A.J. Dillon, 86%. But how about Deionte foreman seven percent rostered and unfortunately did not work at the goal line that was still adrian peterson but it's probably peterson on the final drive too wasn't it i don't know the clock killing drive i know he picked up a first down on that yes yes Yes, exactly. I did see that. But I don't know. I mean, I can't imagine I would not pick up Deontay Foreman if I could. I can't imagine I would not pick up. I'm trying to deconstruct that sentence. I can't imagine I wouldn't pick up.

Why? Okay, fine. I imagine I'd pick up Deontay Foreman. I would pick up Deontay Foreman. There you go. Yeah, grammarly. He looks way better than Adrian Peterson. He did last week, too.

But I'm a little nervous that he's there between the 20s running back. Is there anyone else off waivers that comes to mind? Ramondre Stevenson. Yeah, let me check his roster percentage. 51% as of this afternoon. Holy cow. Dan freaking Arnold.

Oh, yeah. How can we get that guy at a 65% roster rate? That's his yards every game. And I tweeted it. I had this feeling that Dan Arnold was going to be better than Fryermuth rest of season. Did you know that he's going to be better than Hawkinson rest of season? I don't understand TJ Hawkinson at all, and I didn't even like TJ Hawkinson rest of season. I don't understand

TJ Hawkinson at all. And I didn't even like TJ Hawkinson. Yeah, pretty bad. No catches, no catches for him or get sicky this week. And it's funny

because, uh, you know, I can't, I can't really fault them, but on the live stream this morning, Frank and Chris were both saying how they,

they got like 17 deep in their tight end rankings thinking tight ends, not bad. You know, I mean, Conklin came through with two touchdowns. Dan Arnold was good. Hunter Henry was awesome. Hunter Henry was, yeah, four targets, two touchdowns.

I fully expect this is going to be Tyler Higby week now after what we saw today. Will it be Kelsey or Waller week? Could be them too. How about one target for Hawkinson? Yeah, wild. Good night. Okay, so anyway, news and notes. Hawkinson? Yeah, wild. Good night. Okay, so anyway, news and notes.

Christian McCaffrey left, has a hamstring thing. They were crushing him, so they took him out of the game. Probably okay, but maybe ease off a little bit on him. Aaron Jones left. I don't know if it was late third or early fourth quarter, but he might have a sprained MCL, which would be a few weeks, I think. And you know what it is. It's A.J. Dillon.

Is there another running back you think that would step up, be relevant? I don't think so. Yeah. A.J. Dillon could be the number one running back in fantasy for the next few weeks. You never know. That's a good voice cracker. Yeah, believe it or not later.

So let's, we'll catch that. Another Green Bay injury, Rashawn Gary, linebacker. He left in the fourth quarter. Jordan Howard left, but he came back. CeeDee Lamb left with an arm contusion. I have to imagine the score had something to do with him

leaving the game. Baker Mayfield left. He's expected to play as of right now next week, but he left. He's got Detroit next week. Jared Goff has a strained oblique, and he's at Cleveland next week.

TJ Watt, knee injury. Chase Young, knee injury. Two of the best pass rushers with big injuries, and it might be worse for you. I mean, is it fair to say it looks worse for Young than Watt? Yeah. Watt was still walking around after, but Young looked really bad.

Young was on crutches. Right. And it was actually just a bad day for Pittsburgh. In addition to Watt, Joe Hayden left in the first half with a foot sprain, and both of their starting guards

have ankle injuries. That's Mick of Fitzpatrick. There goes that offensive line. Yeah, right. Mick of Fitzpatrick got hurt, but I think he's okay. Meanwhile, for Washington, in addition to Chase Young,

you have McLaurin leave and come back. Ricky Seals-Jones, though, he limped off in the second quarter, and we might get Logan Thomas next week anyway. Colt McCoy left. Bud Dupree, Tennessee linebacker, he left in the first quarter. Running back Ty Montgomery for the Saints, he left in the first quarter. Quentin Nelson and Darius Leonard both left with injuries. Leonard, I'm pretty sure, came back. I think Nelson did, too Leonard both left with injuries. Leonard I'm pretty sure came back. I think

Nelson did too. Okay. I think he did. Oh, here's a big one. Vita Veya for the Bucs. And we already saw them with a very good run defense last year without Vita Veya for most of the year, but not the super elite

ridiculously good run defense that they are with Vita Veya. He is one of the best run stuffers in football, and he was carded off on the final drive of the game, which was 19 plays, 80 yards, 10 minutes and 26 seconds, a touchdown for Antonio Gibson. That was the longest drive of the year in terms of time, 10 minute and 26 second drive for Washington. It was a total Tom Brady.

Brady has done that drive so many times to opposing quarterbacks who just sat on the sidelines and waited to see if they get the ball back and they never did. And he did it to Brady. And Dallas Goddard left with a concussion early in the game. Here's a stat that's just going to make you cringe.

The game may have ended up similar count, but through three quarters, I heard on the broadcast, Teddy Bridgewater through three quarters, through two passes that went more than 10 yards in the air. I bet I have that info right now. You can't have good wide receivers like that for fantasy.

Seattle and Green Bay played the lowest scoring first half of the season. It was 3-0. DeAndre Swift had his first half of the season. It was 3-0. DeAndre Swift had his first game of the season with fewer than four catches. Must have had a bad game, right? That's a strange way to frame that. Yeah. And Jonathan Taylor has 110 total yards or more in seven straight games. He's good.

Okay, here's a segment before we get to your winners and losers called, well, I didn't see that coming. Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson combined for 14 points in a 17-0 win. Heath, I didn't see that coming. Yeah, I was, I think I was the low guy on them

and I was worried, but I didn't see anything like this. I thought Rodgers was a lot better than Wilson. Rodgers probably deserved like a 21 or a 22 on the day in terms of fantasy points. If you're grading the day for quarterbacks and giving them fantasy points that way,

which some weeks feels like it would be more fun. Wilson just looked awful for almost all of it. And there were several times when he threw to Lockett and Lockett didn't have the type of separation that he often does. And then there were other times where Lockett was wide open and it took Wilson two seconds to throw the ball to him. And then all of a sudden there was a defender there. DK wasn't himself.

I'm not, I think Rodgers will be a low-end quarterback, number one quarterback next week, or borderline. I'm actually a little bit worried about Wilson. Okay. You know, it's interesting. I mentioned it on the NFC home game preview that the concern I had for the Seahawks was time of possession

because they were the worst in the league and Green Bay dominates in that. Green Bay had the ball for 39 minutes. You still got 40 pass attempts, though, from Russell Wilson, so you can't complain, but 21 minutes, basically, of possession. And that's something you have to keep in mind for anybody going against the Packers. We have to take their defense pretty seriously right now. Going into this game, they were giving up like 16 points a game in their last six,

something crazy. They were on fire, and it was, well, the competition, the competition, Mahomes was bad bad and they didn't you know and kyler played without hopkins but this looks like i don't know is this a tough matchup is this a sit matchup for for any marginal player i think it's a sit matchup for big play receivers we've just we've seen it so often this year where guys who aren't promised a ton of targets are probably not going to break away for a long catch it's just the style of the defense that they play i'm curious what their

pass rush is going to look like next week because it looks like rashaun gary is not going to be around i don't know if you saw that injury but it was ugly yeah and uh zadaria smith is still sideline kenny clark is still sideline I don't believe they had Eric Stokes today. They're missing dudes in the front end, back end, and they're still doing a heck of a job. I beat this drum a lot, but the Packers were not going to let the Seahawks throw the ball deep. And I don't know why the Seahawks didn't just call a slant to DK Metcalf

and then another slant to DK Metcalf and then another slant to DK Metcalf and just make them get out of that defense. But they don't do it. Here's another thing that I didn't see that coming. Antonio Gibson had the third best game of a running back

all year against the Bucs. It was not an efficient game. It was 24 carries for 64 yards, but he scored twice and he was started in 55% of leagues. Antonio Gibson, Dave didn't see that coming. Did not absolutely thought that Tampa Bay would come off the bi-week play strong defense, play turnover, free football on offense, and not give the ball to Taylor Heineke to run a bunch of long drives. And Gibson just was able that the Washington football team stayed in the game that allowed Gibson to rack up a lot of carries.

And look in the range of outcomes, this absolutely was a possibility, but I think it was one that no one in their right mind would have said, definitely going to happen. You're going to see two touchdowns from Gibson. It's just one of those things, man. You're just not going to ever look at the Bucs defense and say, that's a beatable run defense. And the thing is, is that next week's not an easy matchup either. They've got Carolina.

Now, you'll feel a lot better about Gibson against Carolina, but it's not like you can look at him and say, all right, not only is he going to score, but he's going to get 90 yards on top of it. I think he's going to be at best a low-end number two running back next week. Yeah, Heath, I think he was one of your winners. And the good thing is he comes off the bye and he gets 22 carries. And Jarrett Patterson has a very small role. The bad thing is, again, you know, he's not super involved in the passing game, and if they're not controlling the clock and winning,

then you could go right back to the same problems that we have with Antonio Gibson. Somebody said in the chat just now, is this Gibson takeoff? What do you think of the rest of the season for Gibson? I don't think it's Gibson takeoff. It's more like Gibson saved, saved from all despair because his three games prior to this had been 30 to

40% of the snaps. And I was genuinely concerned that he was just like Devin Singletary territory. And so this gives me confidence to put him back and no offense to Devin Singletary. He had another nice game today. This gives me confidence him in that 20-ish range.

Okay. Let me fly through the rest of these so we can get to your winners and losers. I didn't see that coming. Tom Brady against the team that gives up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. 23 of 34. Two touchdowns, two interceptions, 220 yards. One of the interceptions, not really his fault, but kind of a sloppy game.

And 16 fantasy points for Brady. Heath, any concerns here? Much like I would say about Lamar Jackson on Thursday night, every single quarterback is having one of these games where they lose to a terrible team and don't play as well as they're supposed to. And it's nice that you got 16 points instead of what some of these guys have given us when they've had their bad games and giving you two single digits

zero in the case of Matt Ryan. Right. so we'll take it and we'll move on to the next big game he's currently a top 10 fantasy quarterback this week with two games to go oh my god that's wild if we have time i don't know if anybody cares uh so maybe we'll save it for the very end of the show but tragger i don't know if you actually you're in the june magazine league dave and i are having just a race to the bottom this week i started rogers and he started ryan and our teams are just so weak ted uh it's a funny matchup all right what played somebody in the for the people league who started wilson and ro us. Oh, what are we going to win? We matched them with Lamar Jackson and Taylor Heineke. We win that matchup.

It's a complete coin flip right now. We were supposed to get blown out this week, but it's a, it's a coin flip. All right, let's go. Let's let's finish. Okay.

Uh, Deandre Swift didn't see that coming. He's going to crush me, Adam. Hold on a second. I know. I don't race to the bottom. It's so close.

You're up 25 points with Daryl Anderson. I never said it was close. I just said it was a race to the bottom. I was so mad about this game because DeAndre Swift was like, obviously the touchdowns were goofy, but he was having this awesome game. I think he had like 120 yards on his first 18 carries or something

and it was really good and they gave it to him 20 more times and all of a sudden he's bad again because his rushing average carries or something. And it was really good. And they gave it to him 20 more times. And all of a sudden he's bad again because his rushing average went to crap. Dan Campbell took over the offense. Like, I think that's an underrated thing. I think he was calling plays today. Well, he was calling plays and the tight end. Like he's a former tight end.

And their tight end had one target, no catch. Yeah, he took the reins away from Anthony Lynn and I mean, success. They got a tie. Um, that might be something to watch for though, with the running back targets and Dan Campbell calling plays because one of the appeals of Deandre Swift was the.

And Austin Eckler,Alvin Kamara role. That role didn't exist in Dan Campbell's debut as a play caller. I don't know if it was his debut. Did he ever call plays before, Dave? I doubt it. He was a tight ends coach. I don't think he ever did. He had an interim situation.

In Miami, he was the interim coach. I don't think he was calling the plays there. Well, it is interesting. I mean, you get get 33 k i don't care if he doesn't first of all they weren't trailing in this game so their offensive line um with decker back decker was really good especially in the first half then everybody just got so tired and was soaking wet and it was a miserable miserable overtime to watch. My son was cheering so hard because he saw Dan Campbell cry after the, uh, one of the terrible losses.

And he really wanted the lions to get their victory. And he was like, he's not a lion's fan. He's never cheered for the lions in his life, but he was sulking after the tie because they didn't get a win. Are you kidding? Lions fans were cheering. They're out of the 0-17 hole.

They won't be the first team to go 0-17. Okay, so let's get to your winners and losers. Heath, you got... Oh, no, wait, Dave. Dave, you have Ramondre Stevenson, Devontae Smith, and Miles Sanders. A winner without even playing. But Ramondre Stevenson,

great game, 20 carries, 100 yards, two touchdowns, four catches against Cleveland, who had a great run defense coming into the game, and he really carved him up. What is his role if Damian Harris is back? So I think that there will be a decent split between the two of them on rushing downs when they do come back. But I wonder if they figure out a way to work stevenson into some semblance of a passing role because he can do that as well and i think he looks better than damian harris i know that sounds wild but i really think that he's got that in him to be uh not necessarily to overtake damian harris but we know that harris has had injury problems in the past, has had fumbling problems in the past.

And at least for one game, he showed the Patriots coaching staff that he can be a reliable lead guy. Yeah. Okay. So who do you think will be better? Absolutely rosterable. He should be rostered rest of season. He could matter quite a bit.

Who's better rest of season, guys? Harris or Stevenson? Is that your answer? Yeah. Okay. Completely honest. It could be Stevenson. It really could be.

Because of what he can do as a basketball player. Completely honest. I do think this helps confirm the theory that if you have hair that's coming out of the back of your helmet, it looks like you run harder than other guys. I thought about that with someone today. I remember you saying that, and I think it's true. I really don't remember who it was. It was more for Ronald Jones.

I think it was Alexander Madison. It's like, man, these guys look fast. They have Eric flying around. All right, Dave, Devontae Smith, six catches. What was it? Four for 66-2 on six targets. What a touchdown catch. Holy cow. The first one, the contested catch touchdown was awesome.

And that's the kind of thing that I've been looking for from Devontae Smith for a while. Everybody should have, we should go back to having confidence in starting Smith as at least a number three receiver. And maybe if he can continue to put up performances like this, work his way into the top 20 to 24 wide receiver. We know he's a talented guy. He's just got a quarterback that has some accuracy issues and he's on a team that's really still continuing to find its way to run the football.

In the second half of this game, they were running it like crazy because they could. Do you know how many times Jalen Hurts threw in the second half? I'm sure there will be games soon. In the second half, my guess is like five. I think three. He had, yes. So I overrated.

Three pass attempts in the second half. Wow. Because Devontae Smith got all of his production first half. I don't think that's going to be how they operate every single week, though. I talked about it coming into this game. This week it turned out to work out. It worked out that way.

There's going to be opponents in their future. I'll bring up their schedule. New Orleans next week. Right, so there's one where they're going to need to throw a little bit. Well, that's the thing we'll find out next week. Is this a taking advantage of what the defense gives you? Or if the other team can't score enough points and you don't have to throw, you won't. Because I don't think New Orleans is going to score enough points to put them

in a position where they need to score game flow wise. What does it mean for Devont smith in your opinion my believe it or not um for this game was um davante smith's the top 20 wide receiver rest of season and it was about 50 50 in the poll i think and i don't believe that because i don't think there's going to be enough volume that's an issue especially when you look at their schedule for the rest of the season we talked about the e Eagles, and this is why Miles Sanders was a winner for me, is because their schedule the rest of the season is pretty great, and they're running the ball well. So I think they're both winners.

I think that when they do throw, it's going to be Devontae Smith who's going to be a primary target for them. And if he can continue to win downfield, he's going to be that exact type of splash receiver that's perfect as a No. 3 guy. I think they're so similar to last year's Ravens. He's going to be that exact type of splash receiver that's perfect as a number three guy. I think they're so similar to last year's Ravens. If Dallas Goddard is healthy, it's a quarterback who,

I think 23 pass attempts is probably more realistic than 15. So it's 23 pass attempts and a whole bunch of running, and then you've got really only two guys getting the targets. And if Hurts can be good enough, then they can come through. But even when you saw with Marquise Brown last year, even in his good stretches, he still had a lot of really low yardage games, and he needed touchdowns to be saved. So, yeah. All right.

But he was getting them. He was a red zone target for them. Remember, they changed his role at this point last year. I can't say for sure that the Eagles are going to do anything close to that with Devontae Smith. Heath, your winners are Cam Newton, Jacoby Myers. Hey, Jacoby Myers. I did it.

Jacoby Myers. And Antonio Gibson, who we talked about. We covered him. Cam, you know... I've got to believe it or not on him later anyway, so we can just... I think it's just hilarious

how we were infuriated by him last year, and we were kind of celebrating. We were kind of like, wow, he got cut by the patriots at the beginning of this year and now that he's back with carolina we're all happy for him and you know he scores the touchdown and he threw another touchdown and like you can't help but root for him now and i was that's how we all year last year okay all right well i did okay maybe you were um but like if he's making us kind of smile a little bit,

then what could he be doing to that Panthers team? Giving them all kinds of extra energy to go out and play well. And then he's going to be starting for them at quarterback. And I don't think he's going to be like, you know, a super passer or anything like that, but he might end up salvaging their season. I obviously, I have no idea who's ever going to win any game game but they've got three very winnable games up in their next three washington miami atlanta washington this could be a this could be a fun i don't know about miami

it's true winnable i didn't say yeah winnable so okay uh cam is he a guy that you're picking up in a 1QB league or just a 2QB league or a super flex guy? Believe it or not. So, yeah. Hey, you know what? I can't save great content until later. I understand.

Okay. I understand. Okay. I'm adding him in 1QB, yes, if I need quarterback help. Okay. I'm especially adding him. I talked about it during the week. If I've got Kyler, if I've got Mahomes, if I've a quarterback help. I'm especially adding him. I talked about it during the week. If I've got Kyler, if I've got Mahomes,

if I've got Hurts, if I'm still starting Wentz, I like his matchups in weeks 12 and 14. I don't necessarily love the one against Miami anymore, but those are matchups that seem kind of favorable for Cam Newton. Well, I hope it's good for DJ Moore. Another bad game for him, but it's not like Cam was the quarterback.

So, Jacoby Myers, did anything really change, or is he just a winner because he scored? He only had 49 yards. He's the winner because he scored. Okay. He doesn't need to be the roster, does he? Is it going to make you want to start him next week against the Falcons?

I'm not. No. I mean, do I have three receivers that are better than him isn't that you probably what determines whether i want to start him or not great insight there well no i mean there i have a variety of different teams and there are certainly teams where i there's no chance i'm starting him but there's a couple i started marvin jones and jamal agnew on the same team in two different leagues this week. I might think about starting him in those.

Yeah, I got a couple. I got a league like that, too. I would kill for Jacoby Myers. Thank you. I started Russell Gage this week. Yeah, that was great. I would start Myers over him. Okay. 9-9-9, 7, 1.

Those were his PPR totals until this week when he scored. If he doesn't score this week, it's 8. Okay, but 7 to 8, you know, if you're... I don't know if it's just you guys, but man, I'm really feeling the crunch right now of injuries. The thing is, the good players are not scoring fantasy points, and the bad players are scoring fantasy points in so many different cases. And I didn't have hardly any good teams this week,

but I had a whole lot of teams that won because the other team was worse. That's just kind of the state of the game currently. It'll change back. Okay, let's go to the losers. I'm not sure it's going to change back so fast, man. We're getting closer and closer to December. And you know what that usually means. Winter.

Snow. Lower scoring games. All right. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, we've got the losers from Dave and Heath. I said from Dave and Heath. We'll be right back. I missed that part.

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five for 65 on seven targets, but still didn't really come through with a big one. And Zach Moss, he scored, but it was not a good game for him so who are you most worried about cooper feeling moss moss for sure um matt brita was involved involved in in the red zone and in the passing game and that was not just after it was a blowout i think he scored their very first touchdown yeah um devin singletary had a 15 yard carry on the opening drive and then then Matt Breida scored

the touchdown to end it, and Zach Moss is still standing on the sideline. Hold on. I don't think that's surprising because I think Singletary and Moss kind of swap series typically. At least at the outset. The Breida touchdown was surprising. He'd been a healthy scratch most of the year. That's amazing. I mean, the Jets

just cannot cover running backs. Yeah. The thing was we've, these guys were kind of in a 50, 50 split, but we thought Moss got all of the red zone work and all the passing work. And so that made him the one that was definitely better. And if he's not getting all the red zone work and all the passing down work, then he's just like Singletary,

a flex that you hope scores. Yeah. Cooper and Thielen. Do you still have confidence starting them? Cooper's at Kansas City next week. Thielen is against Green Bay. I mean, we just talked about they're kind of a tough matchup right now. But just in general, you know what the hard part is, Heath?

I don't even know if the matchups matter. It's so random when these guys are good. He had a great game with Cooper Rush a few weeks ago, and now he stinks with Dak, so it's frustrating. What do you think about Cooper and Thielen? Yeah, I thought the Cooper one was more that Gallup was back, and Lamb was the only one who stood out apart from the rest in terms of targets. We've talked about it a lot with this group. The Cowboys do not just consolidate targets to three guys. They're going to throw to six or seven different guys. And so with Gallup back,

it kind of looks like Dalton Schultz might be droppable and Amari Cooper might be a flex at best. I'll probably start him next week against the Chiefs. Thielen is just like, I think you probably start him in non-PPR just because he scores so often. But in PPR, I'm feeling more like he's a borderline number three.

Okay. And Schultz had a, I think feeling more like he's a borderline number three. Okay. And Schultz had a... I think he should have had a touchdown. Yeah. Dak missed him. Yeah. Or was confused on exactly where he was running.

One of the two. All right, Dave's losers. TJ Hawkinson, the biggest loser of them all. Scored as many fantasy points as Matt Ryan. No catches on one target. Emmanuel Sanders. Scored as many fantasy points as Matt Ryan. No catches on one target. Emmanuel Sanders. Scored as many fantasy points as Ben Schrager. Schrager fumbled.

Emmanuel Sanders, two catches, 27 yards. And Mike Williams, four catches, 33 yards. Mike Williams is piling up the almost touchdowns. Where do you want to start? On this week. Well, if I told you that Tyler Higbee hadn't scored a touchdown in seven straight games, you would probably call him at best a low-end starting tight end. But he's at least scored twice in his last seven games. Hawkinson has not.

And I almost think it's elementary for defenses to know this guy is a potential weapon for the Lions. I didn't watch closely enough to see if the Steelers were trying to take him away on passing downs. My hunch is that they were, and they were putting pressure on Goff, and the Lions were actually running the ball fairly well in the game.

I'm going to be nervous to start him next week. It doesn't matter that the matchup isn't that bad for him. I'm I've got to see what's out there on the waiver wire at tight end before I go to start him at Cleveland. I know the Browns just gave up two touchdowns, a hundred Henry, but I'm not, I'm not ready to say Hawkinson is still a guy that you can set and forget at tight end moving forward.

Well, started the year hot. Now he's a dud. Yeah. So a couple of things. First thing, Stafford compared to Higby Stafford is 23 touchdown passes. Jared Goff has eight. He didn't throw one today,

did he? He had eight coming into the game. I don't think he threw one today. Maybe he did. I don't know. He has eight or nine. So look, I don't, I don't think he threw one today. Maybe he did. I don't know. He has eight or nine. I'll look, but I don't think he did. No, they had two rushing touchdowns from Jefferson and Godwin.

Oh, that's it. Yeah. Ridiculous. Godwin, Igwe, Buke. Buke. Yeah, so that's a big problem for Hawkinson. But if you have Hawkinson, I can't imagine you're dropping him. But are you getting a second tight end on your team if Dan Arnold or Conklin or somebody like that is available?

Sure. Hunter Henry could be available. You can go and find another tight end and then really think about what you want to do there. And honestly, in a non-PPR league, a small 10-team league, he's droppable. Okay. That makes me nervous. Cause I just, I mean, we've seen all these tight ends have bad games like this.

And he's probably going to go six for 60 next week and be a number seven tight end. Which is fine in PPR, but in those smaller non PPR leagues, I don't know if you're losing that much sleep over a six for 60 game. And Emmanuel Sanders, is he droppable? He's droppable. This is a game where Josh Allen threw for 336, I think, maybe even more, and he's just, I don't know. He can make plays, but he hasn't made any in a while. I don't know if I'll ever feel confident starting him

as anything more than a biweek replacement. Schrager telling me that he had, Emmanuel Sanders had two 20-plus-yard pass plays called back on penalties. Even if he did, it wouldn't have been that great of a game. Well, I mean, it would have been fine. But he's obviously struggling, and they definitely took, I watched a lot of this game

he was kind of surgical not a lot downfield but just really accurate not a lot downfield you know how many passes he threw 11 plus yards downfield how many 13 how many passes leading nine for 271 so downfield guess, can be defined differently. I would call them intermediate throws. Okay, so what do you want to see? 16 yards? It doesn't matter. It wasn't the Emmanuel Sanders type game. He was very accurate. Josh Allen, he was kind of spread out.

Josh Allen led everybody on passes of 16 plus air yards with 10 attempts, 7 catches, 244 yards. Every one of my DFS lineups, I played with Josh Allen this week and I got ripped off because it was,

everybody that played him did. He was phenomenal. He was the best quarterback this week and they scored three rushing touchdowns like inside the five yard line. Curious, how many completion, what was his longest

completed air yards? Do you you know did he have like a bomb because i don't remember him having one of those he had one down the sideline to dig his wide open kind of stumbled on the left sideline i would guess that one was 30 25 or 30 there was one for 57 yards to dig yeah but that was a lot after the catch. There was a... Well, was it? Yes. Maybe half. No, it says... Hold on. Whatever. Who cares?

Deep left to Diggs for 57 yards. Deep middle to Gabriel Davis for 49 yards. Oh, that was a big one. Yeah, that was a big play. Deep right to Gabriel Davis for 36 yards. I don't know why we're talking about this. Yeah, I don't either. Mike Williams, what do you do?

Dude, last week, three targets inside of the 15-yard line, two inside of the five. They tried to get him going. He couldn't do it this week. He had a target. He had two targets inside of the 10. The first one he caught on a slant, but he couldn't push his way into the end zone.

The second one should have been a touchdown. It went off of his bicep. Yeah, he kind of alligator, not alligator-armed it, but he didn't do a great job catching it. It's hard to catch with your bicep. It's hard. Yeah, right. You need fingers.

Use your fingers, Mike. Goodness gracious. It wouldn't have been a touchdown. And so four straight games, four straight games of really lean numbers. Also, clear winner of the Tyler Lockett-Dolton Schultz trade. I think he's the winner so far. Yeah, so Heath

traded Lockett. Heath traded Mike Williams for Lockett and Schultz, so good job so far. Very exciting trade so far. Okay, the almost touchdowns were pretty interesting in this game. David Njoku, in my notes I wrote, he pathetically had a touchdown catch knocked out of his hands.

That was ridiculous. Just hang on to that. Austin Hooper caught a touchdown two plays later. Najee Harris had a touchdown call back on a hold. Ray Ray McLeod actually had a pretty big game for the Steelers, and it could have been better. He was wide open in the end zone, and Mason Rudolph just threw like a dart into the ground.

Dawson Knox dropped a touchdown. He got crushed. Dalton Schultz had an almost touchdown. Traquan Smith nearly got his feet in bounds, but didn't. Dan Arnold actually came up. Traquan Smith was close on a couple of touchdowns. Yeah, and Dan Arnold doesn't have a touchdown yet this year,

I don't think, at least not with Jacksonville. And he almost did. He had yards short. Christian McCaffrey. He had a two-point conversion. Yes, he did. Christian McCaffrey just kept flirting with touchdowns. Didn't quite get one. Dalvin Cook finally...

I think Javante Williams was tackled four or five times inside the five-yard line. And he had a touchdown call back on the hold. He looks like he's ready. Next week is Javante Williams' week. I'm telling you. I'm calling it 100%. Let's see. That was it. We covered the rest.

Oh, Quez Watkins. It's not going to rest. Oh, it's not going to be next week. It's not going to be next week. I'm just kidding. Sorry. Oh, he's going to buy. That's right. Yeah,

that's why. Quez Watkins dropped a beautiful pass. Jalen Hurts. Hurts could have had a massive game. If Watkins hangs onto that, that would have been like a 29 point game. Probably maybe even 30 for Hertz. Okay, Heath, we're going to the games.

How about fourth and goal? It would have been a garbage-time touchdown, but Bridgewater has Tim Patrick wide open in the back of the end zone, and he overthrows him. Yeah, that was really bad, actually. That wasn't even close. No. Oh, deep shot, Tyreek.

What do you think? Of course it's incomplete. Dallas 43, deep shot Tyreek. And what do you think? Of course it's incomplete. Dallas 43, Atlanta three Heath. Let's go. Dalton Schultz is droppable. I'm pretty close to believing that if I've got another tight end that I like better than Dalton Schultz at this point,

I don't mind dropping him. Only two targets. Yeah. It's we're repeating first half of week one and his, his target rate was going down over the past three games. Who are you dropping first? Mike Davis or Dalton Schultz? I think I'm going to drop the tight end before the running back,

but both of them can be kicked to the curb. Yeah. Interested in Wayne Gallman? No, not yet. I bet he gets gets i bet he matters toward the end of the year but i mean maybe sooner than that maybe they saw something in gallman this week in garbage time that they'll give him a chance on so let's call it super deep leagues gallman should be stashed all right uh kyle pitts 60 yards seven targets, but he led the team in receiving by a long, long way. Only a receiver with more than 22 yards, and he had 50% of Matt Ryan's passing totals in this game. So I'm guessing we're not that down on Kyle Pitts after this game.

Nope. All right. Nope. And he leads the team in receiving yards and receptions this year. But there's circumstances with that. Tennessee 23, New Orleans 21. Oh, what a gross, gross, gross game. Believe it or not, Adam Troutman is the number one streamer for week 11. Does he have the Eagles? Yeah.

Yeah, that's a good matchup for him. He's been getting a lot of targets. It's two straight weeks now where he's had. Three straight weeks, at least six, I think. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good matchup for him. He's been getting a lot of targets. It's two straight weeks now where he's had three straight weeks. At least six, I think. Okay. Yeah. So yeah.

PPR leagues. He's definitely up there. Are you going to start Adam Troutman over TJ Hawkinson next week, Dave? No, I'll look into it. My guess is I won't, I won't follow through on that,

but starting them over dalton schultz buy or sell trevor simeon's just keeping this job and we can drop tasem hill i'm kind of buying it uh i mean this is probably i i might try to hold for one more week because they've lost a couple games now. Even if they make the change before Buffalo, you're not going to want to start him against Buffalo. So I might try to hold him on at least until we find out for sure that he's not starting against Philadelphia.

All right, so Simeon scores 23 fantasy points. Mark Ingram has a nice game with four catches, over 100 yards. He is now the all-time leading rusher in Saints history. Deontay Harris, 84 yards. Traquan Smith. But still not playing a ton. Deontay?

Yeah, like, I'd like to see what his numbers would look like if he plays 70% of the snaps. Well, if he plays 50% of the snaps. Because remember, a lot of their snaps are runs anyway. Well, look, all these receivers are available. Harris,

Trey Kwan, Callaway. They've all done something recently. Do you want to pick them up? And if so, who's your favorite? You're not. Deepest of leagues.

Deepest of leagues. I think I'm going to go Harris. I think I might. I don't't know i think we go trae kwan i think my answer was right yeah all right look philadelphia obviously it doesn't seem like a very good matchup for wide receivers and then buffalo the following week so it's not too appealing so here's the problem with harris is that he ran 19 routes and and Simeon and Taysom Hill combined for 36 pass attempts. So when his route number equals their pass attempt number, that's when I'll be super excited about Deontay Harris.

And it could happen soon because he's being productive. He's doing good things in the offense. He's really fast. He's exceptional in PPRR leagues. Very, very good in points per route run, but not as good in points per reception. Half PPRR leagues, not quite as good either. So what do you think about the Titans running backs?

Is there any reason to hang on to Adrian Peterson? He is 83% rostered. Bi-week replacement running back. I think you can say the same thing about Foreman. Although there's, there's kind of some, there's some decent intrigue with Foreman just because he looks better than Peterson.

He looks better than McNichols. And who would you rather have Peterson? Would you drop Peterson for Deontay Foreman? I think if, as long as I'm not starting either one of them and I'm just stashing to see what happens, it's Foreman. And are we concerned

about A.J. Brown? One catch on four targets? A little bit. He got beat up in the game. What'd you say? I'm concerned, but I'm not sitting him. Okay. Buffalo 45, Jets 17.

Believe it or not, Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs are the only Bills you should actually start with confidence. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. No, I'm still going to be okay starting Dawson Knox. At least for one more week. Is he okay?

I'm assuming he is. He took a big hit in the back of the end zone. I don't remember. I didn't, I don't remember. I didn't see if he came back in or not. I can check. Um, he only got one target. So I don't know if I'd feel better if he didn't come back in the game or if

he did. Now I'm curious about that play in the end zone because I, I had him as having one target, but that was definitely his second target of the game. So there may have been a penalty on the penalized play. It might not have counted. I believe it was a penalized play. That makes sense. So he got, he uh beat up on 45 snaps and his last

snap was is a single terry's touchdown run with six minutes to play in the fourth quarter okay so that was after the big hit um so i don't know. Again, I don't know if that makes me feel better or worse about him next week. If he just played the entire game and earned one target. Well, give him two. Let's give him two. Come on. Give him credit. I'm not counting all the other penalized plays in the NFL this week.

Well, we're only talking about Dawson Knox. Well, next week is Indianapolis, then at New Orleans, then New England. Yeah, it's, I don't know. Dan Arnold, Tyler Conklin, Dawson Knox. Well, next week is Indianapolis, then at New Orleans, then New England. Yeah, it's, I don't know. Dan Arnold, Tyler Conklin, Dawson Knox. Arnold for sure. For me. Not sure if I'm ready to say that. You know the problem that I have, though, Heath?

You know where I'm going with this, right? Trevor Lawrence doesn't throw enough touchdown passes. So Dan Arnold's never going to score touchdowns. Well, Trevor Lawrence has thrown five touchdowns since week one. Five. Right. It's a problem. I mean, I would start Arnold over.

I'm not saying that I think Dan Arnold's going to be a top six tight end. I just never thought Dawson Knox was. Yeah. But it's just that's when Allen's so good, Knox can just get those touchdowns. Okay, well, how about on the other side? How about Michael Carter? One target.

Doesn't Knox have, like, three and four catch potential? Absolutely. 100%. And I know that Arnold has more potential than that in terms of catches, but I think Knox has a pretty considerable edge on touchdown potential from game to game. And Arnold would have a much higher yardage potential.

Sure. Okay, let's go to the other side of the ball here michael carter 16 carries 39 yards and a touchdown four catches for 43 yards so he comes through with a good game for you with about 80 total yards a touchdown and what did he probably have like 18 ppr points or something like that so it worked michael carter good game against the bills and dominated the carries dominated 16 of 22 running back carries worked michael carter good game against the bills and dominated the carries dominated 16 of 22 running back carries for michael carter so you can curse none of the snaps though he's going backwards and snap right but he's going forwards and running back role

i wonder if that has anything i know he played some late for sure but i didn't see tevin coleman hardly at all until the game was out of hand and they gave tevin coleman i think maybe two different series i wonder if that because tevin coleman wasn't playing the past few weeks i wonder if that had something to do with it carter jimmy jay says carter gonna beast end of season i think it's the second best rookie running back for sure. Okay. And Ty Johnson had five catches. So if Mike White starts again and you're desperate for a PPR running back,

maybe you go to Ty Johnson. They have Miami this week. New England 45. Oh, Elijah Moore. Sorry, Elijah Moore. Garbage time touchdown. 51% rostered. Is that too high, too low? Or is the porridge just right for Elijah Moore, garbage time touchdown. 51% rostered. Is that too high, too low,

or is the porridge just right for Elijah Moore? Just right. Yep, just right. I've got him pretty much everywhere on benches. Same porridge question for Corey Davis. Five catches, 93 yards on seven targets. What's his percentage? Oh, I'm sorry.

You have to guess. I guess he's 83%. No, I'll say lower than that. I will say 70. 66. Okay. That's a little low, I think. They've got the Dolphins and the Texans

in their next two games. And depending on who their quarterback is, they could go back to Zach Wilson pretty quickly now. Zach Wilson is very young looking. My goodness. I see him on the sideline. He really looks like a little kid. Alright, New England 45, Cleveland 7.

Who was that? Who's texting? That was me. Who the hell is texting you? Lots of people. Many people are texting me. Believe it or not, DeAndre Swift is a you? Lots of people. Many people are texting me. Believe it or not, DeAndre Swift is a sell high before the deadline. No. First of all, we're on New England and Cleveland.

Wait a minute. DeAndre Swift isn't on the Browns? Oh, you didn't put a space in between the games, and so I'd scroll to the right place in the notes yes i did this is the best believe it or not question ever i'm sorry wrong game okay mac jones will be not is currently because that's pretty obvious will be the best quarterback from the 2021 class do not believe it no i don't believe it 46.8 percent believed it 47.1 percent did not it's the closest poll we've ever had and if we could only get those pansies those 6.1 percent

that couldn't even muster up a vote on such a challenging question such a challenging question i'm not sure if he will or not i'm gonna going to abstain. But I'm curious what everyone else thinks. So don't vote. They wanted to see what everybody else thought. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm still going to go with Trevor Lawrence. I think it was kind of tricky how I asked it because it was asked in a way, like, how do you define best?

The best fantasy football quarterback? The best, the winningest quarterback? Probably. the best fantasy football quarterback, the best, the winningest quarterback, probably. Um, I don't know. I, is this part, this is not just about Mac Jones who has looked phenomenal for a rookie quarterback and the way that the way that he has meshed with Josh McDaniels and this system. And just, there are times he's not Tom Brady or anything kind of like but there are times when you see him go through his progressions and running the offense and it just looks like the Patriots

of the last 20 years and he's just doing exactly the things that he's supposed to do and then the other side of that is Trevor Lawrence just looks broken and that happens to great college quarterbacks in terrible situations. And this is one of the worst situations a college quarterback could be in.

Well, they're going to run for 250 and throw for 250 every week or whatever. If I had to pick one, it would be Justin Fields. But yeah, that's a good guess. Or a good answer, too. I still feel like Lawrence has a lot left to give. And I'm not ready to judge him based on nine games. But we should talk about Mac Jones. It's unfair to him to talk about.

Right. He's really surrounded by a bunch of poo. Mac Jones? No. Mac Jones doing a Nelson Aguilar and Kendrick Bourne. Mac Jones. Yeah. Mac Jones.

Like he has, sure. Does not have good weapons. He's making those guys good. And that's the sign of a great quarterback for sure. But I think Lawrence, I, I just feel like he's just way too uncomfortable when he plays right now.

Yeah. Okay. Once he gets comfortable, he will be very dangerous and very good. And I think Fields will be better too. Where are we on Jarvis Landry? 82% rostered. He had four catches for 26 yards.

His yards in his last four games 37, 65, 11 and 26. He does not have a touchdown this year. Oh, not a receiving touchdown this year. Where are not a receiving touchdown this year. Where are we on Landry? Droppable? He's droppable, certainly, in non-PPR leagues.

And in half and full PPR leagues, he's a bench receiver. And would you drop Jarvis Landry for Elijah Moore? Yes. I'd rather have Elijah Moore on my bench, for sure. Okay. Ramondre Stevenvenson we already discussed hunter henry 77 roster just keeps scoring that's i think that's pretty much it from this game okay detroit 16 pittsburgh 16 deandre swift is a deadline deal sell high. That's an interesting comment coming from you. I do not wish to buy that.

I don't know why people are so down on DeAndre Swift. It's weird. He's got no credit because he gets his garbage time. He Swifts all the time. He gets his garbage time. And he didn't do that in this game. He was phenomenal in the first half of the game and then killed all of his efficiency in the second half. I think he was averaging six yards per carry

on his first 18 touches and two on his last 18. I wish I had known that. You know I would have tweeted that. Yes. That's why he doesn't... I think that's another reason, though, that a certain segment of the population doesn't like him. He averages like 3.6 yards per carry.

That's a bad running back at him. Well, it's an inefficient running back. It's not a bad running back necessarily. I mean, Najee Harris, nobody has a problem with Najee Harris. He's averaging like 3.7 coming into the game or something like that. Yeah. Um, I don't know. It's just, it might be better for your heart because it does.

It's, it's a hard thing cheering for DeAndre Swift this week. But if he gives you results, then what's to complain about? I see your point about if the catches aren't there, you're not going to get 33 carries a game. But I can't imagine. I just think that they're related.

They had their best game of the year, basically. They tied and they played in full overtime. But if they're losing, which they're going to be most weeks, you're going to get more than three catches, and they're going to be for more than five yards. And I do think it's important for the sake of Dan Campbell to recognize, yes, they're 0-8-1, and yes, they're terrible, and maybe they're even the worst team in the league.

But they've lost on a field goal that bounced off the crossbar. They've lost on Justin Techers, NFL record-breaking long field goal. And they just tied in a game where they had a 40 yarder to win it. And just, I think he maybe hit the ground before he hit the ball. It was one of the ugliest kicks I've ever seen. Yeah.

So what's our conclusion here? So high on Deandre Swift or ride it out. I'm not sure if you're going to get what the definition of sell high is on him. You'll get something good in trade for him. I think people will view him as a top 12-ish fantasy running back. Certainly more so. You'll get top 12 value in full PPR. But I don't know if I want to.

Okay, would you rather have Nick Chubb or DeAndre Swift in PPR rest of season? Swift. Would you rather have DeAndre Swift or... Here's the thing. Would you rather have DeAndre Swift or David Montgomery and a number two

wide receiver? I think you can get David Montgomery and a good player for Swift. I'd probably take that because I'm you can get David Montgomery and a good player for Swift. I'd probably take that because I'm pretty high on David Montgomery. Right. So if you're going to, I think that's maybe the place you try to go. So who am I

getting with David Montgomery? Mike Williams. Am I getting Mike Williams or Tyler Lockett? Sure. I think I prefer Lockett over Williams, but sure. All right. Let's go to Indianapolis 23. I don't think there's much to talk about with Pittsburgh here.

Can't take much away from... Najee's good. DeAndre Johnson's good. James Washington had a good game. That'll be back next week. Friar Muth, meh. Colts 23, Jacksonville 17. G.Y. Hilton actually is a little bit of a problem

for Michael Pittman. I guess I believe it a little bit. The only two games they've played together where they both played the whole game, where Hilton played the whole game, because Pittman's been fine, his target share's not been the same. It wasn't really true in the second, because you're not counting one game.

I'm not counting the game that Hilton left early. But if you look at the snap share of that game, see, actually, let me just explain. You're not wrong. Hilton played 50% of the snaps, basically, in both of the previous two games. So he may have left one of those early, but he played basically the same snap share.

And that is a problem because he'll play more than 50% of the snaps. I don't know, Dave, you have a snap count this week for T.Y. Hilton? So that is... Give me 30 seconds. That is interesting. Really just not a good game for Carson Wentz. Seven fantasy points against freaking Jacksonville. Horrible stuff here.

Well, it was a weird, weird game. Like, I don't know what the time of possession was in this one, but it was a really weird game script

because they had the, was it a blocked punt? Yeah, for a touchdown. It was a fairly even time of possession. Then they had, they went like,

they did go like six possessions in a row with a punt though, I think. Maybe Jacksonville's defense isn't terrible. Maybe. I think they were terrible to start the game.

I think the first two drives of the game, they were miserable. And then they really started to buckle down to that. And then they started to struggle again later in the second half.

63% of the snaps for T.Y. Hilton. Okay. All right. Well, Pittman or Thielen, rest of season? Pittman. I will go Pittman in PPR, Thielen, and none. All right.

One thing to keep in mind, the Colts still have a bye, and they have Buffalo next week, and they have New England later. And they have Las Vegas, who's top five against wide receivers. I don't know if they will be after Sunday night, but it's not a great, great schedule when you factor in the bye for Michael Pittman. Washington 29,

Tampa Bay 9. Sorry, is there anything I'm forgetting here? I don't think so, because I mean, is there any reason to have a Jacksonville wide receiver? Agnew had the 66 yard rushing touchdown, but he didn't have a catch. And Marvin Jones can't trust him anymore. Do you have any reason to stick with these guys? Not really.

They're biweek guys that I would expect to find on the waiver wire. Kind of in the Jarvis Landry range. Washington 29, Tampa Bay 19. I'm kind of nervous about Mike Evans again. I believe that. Wait, are you saying you, Heath? Yes. I believe that you are.

Yeah. I don't know if that was the question you were trying to ask, but I believe that. No, that's what I went with there. Believe it or not, we should be nervous about Mike Evans. Is that what you're trying to say? Well, I am. You got that one right. How come? Yeah, why? Just because he's like, I know he's been doing it for quite a while now with Brady, but he's just so dependent on touchdowns.

I don't know that he's all that much different from Adam Thielen. He's not always so dependent on touchdowns. This was a weird game. But two weeks ago was Lattimore. He never does well against him. Two catches, 62 yards, and a touchdown on three targets. I couldn't believe this. I was stunned.

But I'm not really that worried. He does have four games with fewer than 50 yards. Go ahead, Dave. I think this is three of his last four games with four targets or fewer. Go ahead, Dave. Yes, that's correct. There must have been something in the way that Washington was playing their defense that you couldn't see on TV because every throw from Brady was

basically a check down until they lulled them into the pass to Evans. You want to talk about throws that went 11 plus downfield? I'm going to look it up for Brady. How many throws did he make that went 11 plus yards in there? Eight. And he was three of eight for 84 yards in the touchdown. Okay. So, and also time of possession here,

because Tampa Bay had the ball for less than 21 minutes or fewer than 21 minutes in this game. I'm starting Mike Evans, man. There are so many pitfalls at wide receiver everywhere else. If the worst thing that we can say about Mike Evans is, well, he scores a lot of touchdowns, and he has five in his last three games, I'm totally okay with him being in my lineup every week.

Chris Godwin, seven catches, 57 yards. Not a great game, but usable. Cameron Brake caught a touchdown. And what do we think about Terry Stinkin' McLaurin? This was actually, I think, his fourth best game of the year. And it was six catches for 59 yards. So he's had five games with fewer than 11 fantasy points. He's had three massive games with 107 or more yards and a touchdown.

And then this game is closer to the bad ones, obviously. Six catches for 59 yards. But it's really frustrating. You put him in your lineup and you get excited, and then he's a letdown. Terry McLaurin. It's just boom or bust to the extreme. Is he really that different from

Tyler Lockett? When you think about it, his best games are amazing games. He helps you win your weeks. That's not what he was supposed to be, though. Tyler Lockett has a history of that. Right. So he was supposed to be more consistent.

That was with the expectation that Ryan Fitzpatrick was going to be his quarterback for the year. That hasn't been the case. Heineke is extremely streaky. Touchdown Raiders. Renfro. Renfro. Heath will kind of like that. Where is Heath? Even though it's against his Chiefs. Where'd you go? Rightro. He's kind of like that. Where is he?

Where'd you go? Right here. He's right there. Where'd you go? I'm having some connectivity issues. You okay? I am okay. Yes. All right. How do you feel about a Renfro touchdown? A run for a touchdown. No, a Renfro

touchdown. No, a Renfro touchdown. That's good. Hunter Renfro is good. I like it when he scores touchdowns. I a Renfro touchdown. No, Renfro touchdown. That's good. Hunter Renfro is good. I like it when he scores touchdowns. I knew you'd like it. I have him on a lot of my fantasy teams. This is a huge game. I can't wait to finish watching it.

Okay, we got the late games now. Let's go. That's Adam's way of saying, shut up, guys. Let's go. Carolina 34, Arizona 10. I'm just going to ask you guys, because you asked me,

but this was my believe it or not for the article. So Cam Newton's going to be fantasy relevant in one QB leagues. I don't believe that he will be consistently relevant in one QB leagues, but there will be a couple of weeks where we will recommend him as at least a streaming tight end.

Quarterback, not tight end. Duh. Yeah, I think borderline. You're starting to see more need for streaming I guess at quarterback. And the streamers have been so good every time we've...

What the hell is going on here? No, but that's the point of streaming is you're taking a chance. Sometimes they hit, sometimes they don't. So, what do you think about DJ Moore? I think you're in trouble if you've got DJ Moore. I don't yet. I think Cam

Newton's a better passer than PJ Walker. And Cam threw a deep shot to DJ Moore. Now, if you want to be concerned, he threw a touchdown to Robbie Anderson, and then he took a post-game selfie with him during the post-game conference. And so if they have breakfast tomorrow, we're going to know that Robbie Anderson is the guy.

Most added player. How about just a quick reminder that DJ Moore doesn't get a lot of red zone targets. He hasn't scored in six games. He hasn't had 100 yards in six games. He hasn't had 100 yards in six games. He hasn't had 80 yards in six games. And he's had four or fewer catches in each of his last three games. And now Cam Newton's his quarterback.

And Cam might be a better passer than he was last year with New England. But I don't know if he's any better of a passer than he was three years ago or something like that. I can't get behind DJ Moore anymore. I get that. I will say that Cam Newton as a passer last year was better than PJ Walker's ever been, and Cam Newton as a passer last year

would have been the best year of passing of Sam Darnold's career. Philadelphia 30, Denver 13. Believe it or not, week 12 is Jiovante williams week no i think it really is lips from your lips to vick fangio's old hairy ears he gets the chargers run defense they'll be coming off a buy the offensive line will be healthy we saw michael carter's participation shoot up coming off the bye. Week 12 is, and there's still time. There's still time to go acquire Javante Williams.

You could have let someone else suffer through all the do I, don't I, and you're going to get prime Javante Williams in the fantasy playoffs. I don't believe that. Do you, or you're just, I can't tell if that was part of your believe it or not, or if that was really your answer. I sold it pretty well, didn't I? You did. You did really well.

I don't know. He's got the Raiders and the Chargers in the semifinals and the finals. I do. I think you should at least go test the water. Can you get him to reflect brights? I get where you're coming from on this, and he did play five more snaps

than Melvin Gordon this week. I want to say that this is the first time in a month he's played more snaps than Melvin Gordon. And Melvin fumbled, but I just think that as long as Melvin Gordon is healthy, you're going to see two running backs in very similar roles in this offense.

You know who else fumbled today, by the way? Completely forgot to mention it. Devin Singletary fumbled. And that is, I don't know, sixth fumble this year or something like that? So maybe that means something. Jerry, okay. What are we doing with the Broncos wide receivers

going into their bye? Do we need to hold on to Judy or Sutton or Patrick? I think the only one that you can feel okay holding on to is Judy. And if I saw him on my waiver wire, I would pick him up. But it's with the idea

that he's a number three receiver. We've also talked about like 10 receivers on this show that are rostered in 60% of leagues that were a drop-off. And there aren't that many people

to go pick up off the waiver wire. How do you pass up on nine targets? Judy, there's no way I'd drop. No, I'm not dropping Judy at all. I'm saying I'm not so sure I'm going to drop Sutton because I dropped Landry before I dropped Sutton,

and I dropped Marvin Jones, and I dropped LaVisca Chenault. There's a lot of guys that I'd drop before I dropped Sutton that are rostered in a lot of leagues. How many teams are on by this week? Two next week. Okay. Week 11, two teams. There might not are on by this week? Two next week. Okay. So week 11, there might not be as much of a roster crunch in week 11,

like there was in week 10 or certainly in the binado week. So you probably won't see Sutton on the waiver wire in a ton of leagues, but a lot of people are going to see what he's done ever since Judy came back and they will move on to an Elijah Moore. They will definitely move on to Ramond Ray Stevenson, et cetera, et cetera. He's dropped a buyer.

So if Dallas Goddard is out, Quez Watkins is a decent ad. No, um, I, I wouldn't drop most of the guys we've talked about dropping for him. So Minnesota 27 chargers 20, uh, believe it or not, I wouldn't drop most of the guys we've talked about dropping for him. Minnesota 27, Chargers 20.

Believe it or not, if Justin Herbert is your starting quarterback, you might want to find a streamer for next week. Next week, he has the Pittsburgh Steelers. In a primetime game. Monday or Sunday? It is on... Or Thursday? It is not on Thursday. It is Sunday night football.

Oh, okay. In LA. So, what's your answer, Dave? Start streaming? I'd have to consider it. I really would. 16 or fewer fantasy points. It's weird, though.

Three of his last four games for Justin Herbert. He is a struggling. Yeah, I think so. Some of it's on him. Some of it's on him. But some of it, like we talked about the Mike Williams almost touchdown. Like some of it's on his teammates, too. His line's not good.

He's under pressure a lot. Yeah, that line is starting to fall apart a little. It's tough. I like him, but don't have a ton of confidence. Pittsburgh, Denver, Cincinnati in his next three games. It's not like those are easy matchups. I don't know if there's much else to say about Mike Williams. Keenan Allen is Keenan Allen again.

Austin Eckler's been a little disappointing lately. His PPR fantasy points in his last four games, 8-24, which is great, 10-14. I don't think he'd do anything about it, but he's been a little disappointing. Did you really enjoy Larry Roundtree's touchdown celebration? Speaking of Austin Ackerman. Oh, that was so cool. Yes. Yes. Very good.

Okay. I think that's basically it for this game. You know, I feel like as we're getting deeper into the season, we know the players that we have to talk about and the ones we don't. And it was nice to see the squeaky crickets

for Justin Jefferson. I really think, I mean, this game I watched a ton of. Justin Jefferson basically won them the game. He made every big play for them. He drew at least, I think he drew two penalties

and he had 143 yards. He was awesome in this game. Ah, the old 1-4-3. I do 1-4-3 to Justin Jefferson. Green Bay 17. For those of you who didn't have beepers, you don't know what we're talking about.

Or no style governale. Or what? Nothing. You guys had beepers? I didn't, but my siblings did. And you would beep someone 143. It meant I love you. Never had a beeper. Dave, did you have a beeper?

No, I wasn't cool enough to have a beeper. Really? I don't remember your brother having a beeper. My sister definitely had a beeper. I don't know. I think my brother had a beeper. I don't think he did. You don't know anything about my brother. Leave him out of Bieber. I don't know. I think my brother had a Bieber. I don't think he did. You don't know anything about my brother.

Leave him out of this. I know plenty. Green Bay, 17, Seattle, zero. A.J. Dillon is a top five running back if Aaron Jones misses time. So after the game, they said that Jones has a sprained MCL, MRI coming. If he's going to miss a couple of weeks, I would imagine.

And in those games, A.J. Dillon should be outstanding. I do not believe it, Heath. I think top five is too low. Wow. He's got the possibility to have such a big role. And he looks really like the closest thing to Derrick Henry. He falls forward on almost every run, it seems. I mean, that's an exaggeration.

Like tons of tackles. Yeah, I think he's just going to be freaking dynamite. I'm so pissed. Want to know how many yards after contact he had? Yes. All right, give me 30 seconds. Okay, so while you look that up, let's talk about,

oh gosh, I know Heath is worried about Russell Wilson. Doesn't seem to want to give him the benefit of the doubt, just shaking off the rust. But let me ask you about their running backs. Carson, I don't want to do it. Not Chris Carson.

I don't, I don't feel confident that Chris Carson is going to come back to a workhorse role or that he's going to be able to hold up to it. Unless they really wait. You have to, he's like, this is a, this is a chronic neck issue.

It's not something that's going to go away. I don't think, but you have to roster him, right? Let's just to be clear. There's no way you can leave him on the waiver wire or any drop them. You can leave them on your bench if you'd like to, if that makes you feel good.

Well, if he comes out and has one good game, then you're going to feel confident in starting Chris Carson. If he comes out and has one good game, then I'm going to start Chris Carson. If he has two good games, then I would feel confident. Fine. Chris Carson should be close to 100% rostered. Buy or sell.

And 20% started. He might be unrosterable in eight team leagues. He deserves to be rostered in 10 team plus. Look at these comments. At least for now. Dookie Russ. He was Dookie. AJ Dillon averaged 31.5 yards after catch per reception.

That's pretty good. And then carrying the football. He had after catch per reception. That's pretty good. And then carrying the football. He had that one big play. Yeah, he had... Oh, he only had 2.76 yards after contact per rush. But when you watched him, I mean, he gets hit, and then he falls forward a lot. His touchdown was like that.

He's obviously going to be really good. We're on to week 11. We're on to week 11. We're out of here, everybody. Thanks so much for watching and listening. We'll talk to you tomorrow with a fresh episode of Fantasy Football Today. See you later.