Fantasy Football Today - Week 11 Recap! Big Injuries, Surprising Studs, Worryometer and More (11/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

We'll start the show on a positive note with our biggest winner (3:30), Michael Wilson! He had a huge game, but we can't say the same for our biggest loser Sam Darnold. We also break out the Worryometer (7:10) on Lamar Jackson, Quinshon Judkins, Ladd McConkey and a few others ... News and notes (16:30) with updates on injuries to key players. Then we take an early look at the waiver wire (23:00) and get to more winners (23:55) including Tetairoa McMillan and Deebo Samuel and losers (31:00) including every Chargers player, Joe Flacco and Rome Odunze ... Recapping each game with our Fantasy thoughts (42:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Oh, man, a wild day in week 11. Welcome to the Sunday night recap show, everybody. This is fantasy football today, presented by BEDMGM. Megan Legendary. Adam Azer Heath Cummings, Dave Richard here. Jamie Eisenberg will be joining us shortly. We've got the Worryometer Sunday Worryometer. It's Suriometer.

And biggest winners, biggest losers. Recap of every game. And how about this? Just looking at this right now. Top 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 scores. Top 10 scorers at any position in full PPR. 6 point per passing touchdown. How many are your quarterbacks?

3. I thought you were going to ask how many were Cardinals? 4. Oh, it's four. I forgot about Percette. It is two. Percette would be 11th. Josh Allen, Bryce Young, Christian McCaffrey, Sean Tucker, Tederoa McMillan, Michael Wilson, Trayvion Henderson,

Bejohn-Robinson, Kenneth Gainwell, Trey McBride. But of the top 11, we do have Brissette, we have McBride, and we have Michael Wilson. He counted a guy who played on Thursday in there. I'd so. It's not a Sunday top 10 finisher, and I thought, Purdy would be in there. He had pretty touched.

He was basically tied with Brissette. He was right behind there. But that's only two quarterbacks with more than 26 fantasy points this week. Yeah. It was kind of a weird week, wasn't it? Definitely weird. Lots of crummy quarterback play,

and that obviously bled into the receivers and a lot of those guys not having huge games either. A lot of injuries, Heath. A lot of injuries. I hate it. I hate it. Yeah.

A lot of injuries, I think we're still kind of waiting to find out how serious they are, too. yeah so drake london josh jacobs josh jacobs they said he's not out for the year but they rule them out very quickly and he's going to have more testing tomorrow so that's a big one so we'll get to that but let's start off on a positive note let's see biggest winner who am i going to assign this to biggest winner you should assign it to yourself why and you should take your your victory lap it was probably your best sunday morning of the season you repeatedly said to a start a guy that

nobody else wanted to start, and he might have been wide receiver one. I don't think I was that high on Michael Wilson. J.B. called him a winner. Look, Jacoby Reset, do you know if this is true? I think he set a record for completions today? NFL record. He had

47 completions. 47 of 57 for 452 yards. You know, if you've listened into this show, you know how I feel about, you know, buying into players that we don't really usually buy into coming off of these types of performance. I believe you once called him fantasy poison.

I sure did. But Michael Wilson, yeah, he's 27% rostered. They're facing the Jaguars next week. And Brissette has been good every single week. So I think you're just going to end up starting Brissette. And Wilson's probably, what, going to be a wide receiver three next week? Three. Is Harrison Beck?

Let's say no. Let's say no. And he's not going to be a wide receiver three. I don't know. I mean, he's obviously better than Marvin Harrison. Marvin Harrison doesn't out-target trade McBride like this. I don't think it like that, but I don't know if you can name 24 other receivers you'd rather start than Michael Wilson, especially if they still struggle to run the ball. Do they fall behind? Does it even matter? If it's a close game, they'll still throw a lot.

This whole offense is riding on the arm of Jacoby Berset. It's crazy. It's wow. They keep falling behind big early too. All right. Who's the biggest loser? Heath? Who's the biggest loser? Yeah, it was definitely the third person to send my names in. but I'll give one any loser man Sam Darnold What a disgusting performance from him

Four interceptions I think we can stop with this whole Like if it's a game where he throws a lot Why would they ever have a game where he throws a lot again? I'd just say Thank you for you know Trying to make me look good on the Michael Wilson thing Even though I didn't really have that much of a call on it

This was my worst call of the week by far I really like Sam Darnold. I just, I thought he, if he threw a lot, which he did 44 times, I thought it would translate into fantasy points. It translated into about four fantasy points because he threw four interceptions. So that was rough. And Seattle almost won. Yes, they did.

They lined up for a long game winning field goal and they missed. Sam Donald felt like the Rams had the ball for about seven minutes in this game. They had something like 23 or 24 minutes of possession for them. Darnold's 84% rostered. He gets Tennessee, at Tennessee, Minnesota, at Atlanta, drop them, hold them. What do you think? Single-digit pass against the Titans? Nine, maybe.

Yeah. Just drop them. I was always, I think, like, I've been wrong in this respect as well, but I've kind of been the low guy on him. I wouldn't feel the need to hold onto him. I think it depends on your situation. If you're streaming quarterbacks, then you can always be on the lookout for a better streamer and then you just move on from Darnold whenever you get to that point.

But I think to what Heath's saying, you want to get off the Donald Merrigo round because even when there's a favorable matchup, like against Tennessee, you just figure Seattle will be able to just lean on its defense, run the ball a lot, and come away with the victory that way. I don't know how many games he's going to have left,

like what he had against Washington, which now seems like a year ago, but it was really just two weeks ago. All right. Well, it seems to know. It's just amazing that no matter what happens, throws 12 times, throws four interceptions,

no matter what happens, Jackson Smith and Jigba has a great game. It's amazing. Yeah. That's a testament to JSN. Let's get worried, baby. Sunday night worryometer, zero to 10.

Zero is not even a little bit worried. You are so ridiculous for asking. 10 is, I'm so worried, it's obvious. that you shouldn't even been asking. All right. Worryometer on Lamar Jackson, who is now, sorry.

Sorry, 4.7 fantasy points at Cleveland last week at 18.6. All right, Heath, sorry to cut you up. Worryometer on Lamar Jackson. Negative 5 million. Jets, bingles, Steelers, bingles, in his next four games. Okay, let's move on.

Worryometer on Quinn-Shon Judkins, 17 carries for 59 yards. He had no catches on two targets, so he lays an egg here against Baltimore, and it's kind of been the case for a little while now. We're on Judkins. Six or seven. Six, seven.

It's just because it's one of those situations where he's a good player. The offensive line continues to struggle. They don't have much of a passing game. Dylan Gabriel got concussed and left after halftime, and Shadur Sanders took over. I'm pretty sure everybody in the world knows about that. Shador wasn't very good taking over for Dylan Gabriel. and what did the Ravens do? They stack the box to try and slow down Quentin,

Quinton Junkins. I want to see what his numbers were, what the splits were with him without Dylan Gabriel. Like they're going to be like he's going to be elite with Dylan Gabriel. I don't think so. But I don't think he's a slam dunk must start fantasy running back at any. I don't think he was necessarily this week. He fell into the top 24 almost by default.

This is going to be a situation where you're just going to need to run out of running backs when you put Quinshawn in your lineup. Okay. I'll probably start him against the Raiders next week. Yeah, even against the Raiders, I don't know if I feel really good. It's everything around him that's coming crashing down

on his situation. All right, Worryometer. Obviously, we're going to talk about Justin Herbert later. Maybe it's the start of the week. Jamie's not shying away from it. He'll be talking about that when he joins the show. But how about Ladd-McConkey?

Worryometer on Ladd-McConkey. Actually, he's been bad in two of his last three games. Because three games ago, he scored 9.6 fantasy points. Today, 4.3 fantasy points. Three catches for 13 yards. Wariometer on Ladd-McConkie. Ten, must sit next week. They're on a buy.

No, two. It's not even a two. If you're going to give a negative $5 billion to Lamar Jackson, you can give at least a negative six to Ladd-McConkey. well i think the difference with lad is like he does still have the eagles and the chiefs and the texans left he's probably going to have some more bad games i pretty much expect we're all going to rank lamar jackson as a top five quarterback for the next four weeks yeah most of those four weeks probably um there was no real difference in efficiency with quinshan juggins just another strike against them

like you can't even pin it on the quarterback situation or anything like that as for mcconkey This was just a bad game all the way around for the Chargers. And I don't see how you can look at any one of them and say, all right, you're out. I can't deal with you anymore. I think you can get pretty close to that with Justin Herbert. He came into this game averaging six and a half yards per attempt without Joe Alt. It's back-to-back bad game since Alt went down.

I don't know that, like, I'm not sure we're going to have him top 12 when he gets off the buy. Against Las Vegas? It's Jacksonville, though. But let me ask you this about this game. I didn't even think about this until I read it in the recap, right? We never talk about this anymore. This used to be a fantasy storyline, and we just, it just time and time again, it never really materialized.

But this was West Coast trip, West Coast to East Coast trip, 1 p.m. game. That, I don't know, does that matter at all? Can we give them that excuse? I mean, did they fly in Sunday morning? Saturday night. No, and again, you know, one thing I looked at, Heath, on the Joe Walt subject line was, did he get the ball out of his hands really quickly? And he did. Again, I mean, 50% of his passes were in less than two and a half seconds.

So that's one of his, it's every time he doesn't have Joe Walt, it's, it's, you see that. And it's not good. No. It's hard to have, like, explosive numbers when that happens. Yeah. All right. Well, it's time for football at BetMGM. Register with BetMGM to get instant access to the best variety of parlay selection features,

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in six points per passing touchdown leagues. They have been at Buffalo and at Denver, Worryometer on Mahomes. One, two. I'll go three, because I think, like, if you're a team contending for the playoffs, You might have to think about, do I have to sit him in the last week of the fantasy regular season against the Texans? Do I have to sit up? Do I need another quarterback for the fantasy championship against the Broncos? Yeah, right.

But I'm starting him next week against the Colts, for sure. He's got a lot of contending teams in his future. It's not just Indy next week. After that, it's Dallas, Houston. That'll be interesting. Do you trust him against the Texans, even though it's at home? The Chargers after that. And then the Chargers is the first round of the fantasy playoffs.

I think the offensive line is becoming an issue and lack of an explosive run game. Take a little bit of pressure off of Patrick Malmes would help. I think everybody that's got him is still going to start him. This was a tough spot for him going into Denver. That's a great pass rush. I was nervous about him coming into the week. Not nervous enough to pull him out of my top 12, but he was low. and he ended up having a decent second half,

but a terrible first half. And by the time he had a chance to do anything late in the game, he just seemed a little, I don't know, like Heath, you're the expert on Mahomes. It seemed like he was a little jumpy. I mean,

I think he's been a little jumpy at times this year. I think the bigger problem is he missed two open deep shots again in the first quarter. And then Rashi Rice, they tried to use him downfield and Rice dropped both of them. So, I mean, it was, it's the Broncos. This is what they do to good quarterbacks often. Yeah, tough matchup. I got one more guy on the Wauriometer.

Then we'll get to the news and notes. There are a lot of them. But it's going to be a much busier waiver wire week this week than it was in week 11 for sure, this upcoming week, week 12, than it was in week 11. We'll take a break. And the last Wariometer name is a spicy one. We'll be right back. This episode is brought to you by Peloton.

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nine targets. After four catches for 37 yards on 12 targets against Baltimore last week. And let's see, in five games now with J.J. McCarthy, he's been over 11.1 fantasy points twice and never more than 16.7 worryometer on Justin Jefferson. Five. That's the perfect number because it's just worried enough to realize that you're not going to get first round value out of him as somebody on your fantasy team. Yet there's no way you're going to bench him unless you're just absolutely. Absolutely loaded at wide receiver.

Although at Green Bay at Seattle for the next two. Probably still not going to bench him, but... No, but what are you expecting fantasy point-wise? About what you got today? Yeah, maybe a little more than that, but... Hope he scored a touchdown on one of the games. That'd be nice. J.J. McCarthy has thrown for fewer than 160 yards in four of his five starts.

and Jefferson, I'm hoping that we get kind of like a market correction a la Teterola McMillan or just Bryce Young, because you can be a bad quarterback, but not be this bad. Bryce Young threw for about 560 yards in his last four games combined. And then today he threw for a franchise record, I think, 448 yards. And McMillan obviously benefited from it. So yes, you do have those two bad matchups for Jefferson at Green Bay and at C. Seattle, but then you've got Washington at Dallas and at the Giants.

So just hopefully, you know, just him being Justin Jefferson, like look what we're seeing from Nico Collins. All these reasons to be legitimately concerned, but, you know, great players are eventually going to get their points. Just a hope. It's a hope. I wish J.J. McCarthy completed more of his passes.

Today, it felt like he had a bunch of drops. I think the numbers three. And Jefferson had one of them against Chicago. Oh. So he's not throwing. a ton. He's completing somewhere between 50 and 58% of his

passes. That's really not that good. And he's not getting all the help that he needs from the other wide receivers. And I just feel like if they're going to continue to be a low volume passing offense, it's going to impact what you get out of Justin Jefferson. I think a good week from him at this point

is 14 PPR points. And no one drafted him for 14 ppr points. All right. That's the worryometer. News and notes. A lot of quarterback injuries. Michael Pennix left in the second half. They're at New Orleans next week. Kirk Cousins could be the quarterback there.

It didn't go so well for Kirk Cousins a few weeks ago against Miami. I believe there's already a report saying that Pennix is going to miss time. Oh, okay. Aaron Rogers has a slight fracture in his left hand. I feel like I can play with a slight fracture. And or a wrist? You couldn't play with two healthy wrists. Well, well, they're going to do more testing to determine a timetable for him.

Aaron Rogers with the hand or wrist injury Justin Herbert left Then he came back Then he was taken out of the game It doesn't seem like it's an injury It seems like it was just the score And they have a buy coming up Bryce Young he played

Like I said he had that huge game But he's got an ankle injury And you know we'll see if he was just running on adrenaline Because he was in pain for sure But Bryce Young ankle Dylan Gabriel Did he end up Yeah he has he has a concussion right

He's in the concussion protocol He's in the concussion protocol If he clears the condition protocol If he clears the protocol, he will start next week per coach Kevin Stavansky. Oh, how about that? And Jordan Love has a sore left shoulder that caused him to miss a little bit of time in this game. In fact, Malik Willis came in and threw a touchdown. Jordan Love says he should be able to play through the injury.

Running back news. Jalen Warren left, and he came back, but then he left again. So tough day for Pittsburgh. They lose their starting quarterback and starting running back. I don't have to tell you all. Kenneth Gainwell is a huge priority if Jalen Warren's going to miss any time. was great today, and he had a massive game without Warren back in week four. Josh Jacobs, knee injury.

We'll get an update tomorrow. And Emmanuel Wilson would obviously be a big priority. Amari DiMarcato left in the first half. We just didn't see a ton of Donovan Knight because of the score. But I think he had four catches, and Michael Carter had an increased role. And Bejel Tootin, you know,

Bejel Tootin, I believe, had 15 carries to E.E.N.'s 14 carries when Bejel Tootin got hurt. but he left in the second half and E.T.N. had the rest of the work. Drake London, knee injury. Darnel Mooney ribs, but Mooney was able to come back in. But Drake London, so Pennix and London both get hurt.

Man, Calvin Ridley is out for this season. Jamar Chase, he may have spit on, I haven't seen the video. Have you guys seen the video? Is that anything else? What do you think? Is he going to get suspended? It appears that he did spit in the direction of Jalen Landry. Okay.

So he could get suspended for doing so. That's Jamar Chase. Let's hope he doesn't. Chimarii, D.K. bruised his chest, and then I don't think this is going to be anything serious. But Matthew Golden and Romeo Dobbs, they, Dobbs especially, just kept getting dinged up in the game. Both came back. Tyler Higby left with an ankle injury.

Cleveland offensive tackle. Cam Robinson left in the first half. And just a few defensive injuries to mention. Atlanta, you know, they were so injured going into this game. I guess I wasn't even quite aware of how injured they were, but they play without two cornerbacks, they play without two defensive linemen, and they got lit up by the worst passing offense in football, arguably,

going into this game. Panthers own them. Yeah, they really do. Yeah. I think the Panthers might have played well even without those guys. I thought the Giants. I mean, we weren't talking about game breakers that were missing. Two cornerbacks still.

It wasn't like they were playing without their rookies or A.J. Terrell at corner. That's true. But I think Carolina just had it today. Bryce Young is special. And the game went to overtime. It's not like they whipped them or anything. And the Giants were pretty beat up, too. Paulson Adibo was supposed to play, but he got rolled out before the game, and they lost

the cornerback early in the game. Oh, there's one other. Quay Walker left with a stinger. This could just be a coincidence, but when Quay Walker was on the field, he's Green Bay's linebacker. Tyrone Tracy had 11 carries for 37 yards. When Quay Walker was not on the field, Tyrone Tracy had eight carries for 51 yards. Big difference there. Packers get Minnesota next week.

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You better start. right in that column now. It's going to be a long one. Emmanuel Wilson obviously is going to be the headliner. We'll see what happens there with Josh Jacobs. Zonovan Knight again, depending on Tray Benson situation. We'll see what's going on with the Falcons receiving core. Obviously a mess there right now with Drake London.

There'll be a lot of quarterbacks as usual. So it'll be interesting. Gainwell. If Gainwell's there and Manuel Wilson's there, who you like better? I mean, we don't know the extent of either injury yet. So probably right now, Eileen Wilson. And then we got Michael Wilson, too. So, yeah, it's going to be a good one, no doubt.

All right, winners and losers. Dave, Tedaroa, McMillan, started in 60% of leagues. Eight catches, 130 yards, two touchdowns on 12 targets. And Sean Tucker, oh, he's another guy. He's 48% rostered. And he was only started in 22% of leagues. 196 yards, two touchdowns, plus two catches for 34 yards and a touchdown at Buffalo. Tell me about McClure.

McMillan first. McMillan was part of a game script that I just absolutely did not see coming. I thought it would be a low-scoring back-and-forth game between the Panthers and the Falcons. I also thought that the Falcons pass rush would really impact and really slow down Bryce Young as a thrower. He ended up having one of those high-volume passing days. It's been rare for him. And Teddoroa McMillan just stepped up in a big way, had his best game of his career. I hated telling people to sit Tedroa McMillan.

It's been bothering me all day. He's absolutely going to get re-evaluated for fantasy. And I don't blame people if they're just going to blindly start him and trust him moving forward. But there will be some games coming up where Bryce Young does not throw a ton. And Teddoroa McMillian, that's how many fantasy points he had. He won't have as many targets and he won't be as good as far as statistics go. As a player goes, we already knew.

that he was good and today was just another day where he cemented that just by dominating a falcons defense he is up to wide receiver 19 on a per game basis no way no i believe it because he's had way three massive games and those things will pump up the average and it's not like his average was terrible i don't believe this you can't you can't you can talk about today like just week 11 he was wide receiver two this week. Oh, man. Yeah. That's crazy. All right, Sean Tucker with an even better game than Tedderall McMillan. So let's say Bucky Irving comes back. Did Bucky Irving become a loser this week? I think so just because even when he does come back, you've got to figure shoulder injury,

foot injury, eased in a little bit. They're easing them into practice. So I can't help but think that they can still take their time, especially since, at least in terms of, of running the ball. Sean Tucker has overtaken Rashad White. It was close to the previous two games. Now it's not going to be. It was a great matchup. We talked about it all leading up,

but I don't know how many of us really bought into Sean Tucker as like a must start type of fantasy player. We talked him up as a flex. We got some static back on that. He's got the Rams next week. I know the Rams are tough. I just saw Kenneth Walker have a good game against the Rams. So I'm okay with Sean Tucker as like a,

at minimum a low end number two. fantasy running back and we can reevaluate if Bucky comes back because it could become a gross you know three man split at running back but we talked about him as a stash it was he was a good stash two weeks ago and people felt pretty good about having him on fantasy rosters last week now you've got to love it and especially if you use him as a biweek replacement this week or you were stuck at flex this week he came through in a major way he showed off his speed yeah he can catch the ball a little bit too like it wouldn't surprise me if next year It's a two-headed monster in Tampa with Bucky and Tucker.

Someone asking, Sean Tucker, the new RICO Dowdell? No. Yeah, I mean, I hesitate to say yes to that. No. No, I mean, look, he might have this last year, too. He had one huge game and then he disappeared now. We will always remember the two Sean Tucker monster games. Maybe we'll be lucky and there will be a third.

All right. Jamie, let's get to your winners. Tyrone Tracy Jr., he was only started in 28%. of leagues. He had 19 carries for 88 yards and four catches for 51 yards against the Packers. And then there's Michael Wilson, only rostered in 27% of leagues, started in 15% of leagues with 15 catches, 18 yards on 18 targets against the Niners. Tracy and Wilson. I guess just in the case of Tracy, you know, I wouldn't necessarily buy into it. It was great to see, you know, so anybody that did start him, you know, you clearly got rewarded. It was also

Devin Singletary scoring a touchdown early in the game. I think when we're kind of stuck, you know, maybe he's somebody you pivot to, but, you know, looking at next week against Detroit, I'm not going to even really consider starting Tracy, but you got to give him credit for the performance that you put on today. So we're just still stuck, I think, with a messy backfield. In the case of Michael Wilson, obviously the length of absence for Marvin Harrison gives you now a starting wide receiver, you know, because Harrison, 22 targets in the last two games, and now you you see this, 18 targets.

So I think you could probably anticipate something close to 10 targets if there is no Marvin Harrison for Wilson. And looking at a matchup against Jackson, we know that secondary has been a mess. So it does lend itself to Michael Wilson being a number two receiver, at least for me, going into Week 12. Okay. Mustad player.

And Heath, you've got another guy who might be a mustad player, and he's going to be going into his buy. But it's Chris Rodriguez, who's 18% rostered, And Debo Samuel, you got a couple of commanders, Rodriguez and Debo. Yeah, it was good to see Debo have a good, high-targeted game with Marcus Mariotta and get into the end zone and score 20 fantasy points. Rodriguez didn't quite dominate running back touches, but it was a close game. So they ran it 33 times.

He got 15 rush attempts. They even threw it to him once, and he caught it. So I think, yeah, he's one of those guys that if you miss the guys we're really excited about on the waiver wire this week, you add him. You may not want to sort him against the Broncos either, and they may go a different direction at running back after the buy, but Jacori-Kroski-Mir, it's not running near as well as he is. Jeremy McNeckles is not really an early-down guy. So I do think that we may have a couple startable weeks from Rodriguez's rest of season. I wonder what this offense will look like if they get McLaren back.

It was another week for Debo where he had only one target of 10 or more air yards. In his first five games, he had 15 targets of 10 or more air yards. In his last five games, he has five. did work out for them today, scored on that nice wide receiver screen. Good news on Josh Jacobs. What we got? At least initially. Tom Pellisero says he's going to undergo more tests on Monday,

but the initial belief is he avoided a significant injury. Jacobs returned briefly after jamming his knee into the MetLife turf before leaving for good. There's optimism he'll be back soon. So we don't know how long it's out, but it doesn't sound like season it. How many players have left games earlier on that turf that allegedly is all fixed? I knew you were going to say that. banged his knee into the turf. He didn't twist it in the turf or something like that.

I didn't put a little padding in there. I don't know that this is the same thing. All right. You know, Pelliserro just opened. You cannot put MetLife turf in a tweet like that. You know you're opening a big can of worms there. All right. Let's go to some losers.

Romo Dunezay and sorry, I didn't mean to take a shot at it. I'm just making a joke. But obviously, so you put that in a tweet, people are going to do exactly what we're doing right now. Losers. Romo Dunezay for Heath. He was started in 76% of leagues. He's been terrible in four of his last six games. And Sam Darnold, he already talked about.

So, oh, man, Romo Dunezay or who do we talk about earlier today? You're going to start like Michael Wilson over Romo Dunezay next week of Harrison's out? Yes. Probably. Yeah. PPR, almost certainly. All right. What are we thinking here?

What's going on? I have no idea. That's part of the reason that he's a loser. Every time we get back into this, he's a must-start wide receiver. He has one of these games. You said it's four of his last six that were terrible. And, like, this was the best of those terrible games. We've got two games of five fantasy points, one game of zero, and this one of six.

Yeah. Well, Caleb didn't have a very good game today through for a hundred and three. That's the problem. He's the problem. He drops back to pass. He holds the ball too long. He's almost sacked. Oh, he somehow escapes.

Now he's running all over the place. And by the time he runs to the sideline, he throws it away. And that's like five out of every six times. He's improvising or scrambling to move around. And then one other time he completes a pass to somebody. It used to be O'Donzee all the time. And now there's other players getting involved in that. And O'Donzie is not getting as much.

In fairness to Caleb Williams, the zero point game that Romo Dunezay had Caleb Williams through for 280 yards and three touchdown. He did. And Adunze had a drop touchdown. There's definitely some of it that can be put at the feet of Romo Dunezay. But the other thing that's happening in Chicago, which is going to put a nice big smile on Heath's face, is that they're running the football effectively. And DeAndre Swift leads the way there. And as long as they do that, and as long as a game comes along where we think Chicago will be able to run the ball, it's going to affect how many pass attempts that Caleb Williams is going to have.

And so the games with 40 plus pass attempts where O'Donzee could maybe catch seven or eight passes, those are going to be fewer and farther in between as they move along. All right. Let's get to the losers of the century, the Los Angeles Chargers as submitted by Jamie. I did some math. I think it's right. Justin Herbert, Kamane Vidal, Lab McConkey, Quentin Johnson, Keenan, and O'Ronday Gatston combined for 26.3 PPR. fantasy points, which is basically what Jacoby Brissette scored today.

So it was so bad. It was stunning. I don't know how this happened. Jamie, what do you have to say about these chargers as they mercifully go into their buy? No, it's a bad start of the week, bad performance by the Chargers. Just terrible.

You know, I have no words. This is hard to fathom watching it. You know, like they, from the get-go, first play the game. It was intentional grounding by Justin Herber. first passing him, intentional grounding by Justin Herbert. Vidal got banged up in the game. Obviously, nothing got going, and it was bad.

It was really, really awful. You know, I think we'll see a better performance from them coming off the by, but it was just not good. I'll double check this, but I would guess that Herbert had his lowest catchable attempt rate of the year at 77.8%. That's really bad for like any non-rooky, non-bad quarterback. And I think we hold Herbert in pretty high regard.

Yeah. So he was flummoxed the offensive. I mean, I didn't watch any of the game. So I'm sure you had eyes on it. Was the offensive line just battered from the get-go and the jaguar? Yeah, he had no protection. Right.

It's the same thing as last week. But this is the first time that the Jaguars have had the pass rush. They lost one of their best pass-rushers, too. You know, the Jaguars. Yeah. It's his lowest. Catchable pass attempt rate of the year. It's concerning for sure.

Yeah. They were eighth highest in pressure rate, Jacksonville, this week. I got one for it. This is even worse than the catchable attempt rate. I should have just said this. His a dot was 3.8 yards. And this is coming off from the game where his ad dot was 4.7 yards. That's it, man.

Can we do the warriorometer again on Ladd-McConkey and everybody else here? It was just McConkey because McConkey is probably the only one that people are going to see as a must-start when they come out of their buy, just to guess. There might be one other player if Hampton's healthy. That would be nice. And I think people will still start Gadsden. I can't imagine that he's going to be completely benched. No, not completely benched.

But must start. I don't know that he's going to have must start status. But yeah, that's the thing. I mean, the Adi, the air yards, without Joe Alt, they're really low. Which should be okay, I think, from a conkey. We spent all week thinking about whether or not the way they used Quentin Johnston last week was going to continue this week. It most certainly

did not. His A dot went right back up to 13.3. You only had three targets in the game. Maybe should have. What do you mean? Maybe it should have. Maybe they should have stuck with that same role because... That's what I'm saying. I don't know why they didn't. It did why. It did nothing. He didn't even have a good

game last week. He's got a bunch of catches at the line of scrimmage. They're not doing anything offensively, you know, basically without their tackles. It's not just alt, obviously. They're super banged up. And, you know, you can say, what did he have last week, Quinn Johnson? I don't even remember. It was like 10 p.R. 42.

He had 10 targets. Yeah. And he's more explosive than Keenan Allen. Garbage targets. Doing 10, 4.2 yards per target or whatever. It's terrible. No, it was terrible. But at the same time, like, if you're going to throw short passes because your

offensive line can't protect you, at least get the ball into the hands of your faster players. Easy to do that with Ladd McConkey. I think Gadsden's earned it. Why wouldn't they try and scheme up? Heath's right. They absolutely should have tried. tried more targets short little slants little crossers to quentin johnston and they didn't do that

they didn't do anything they couldn't do anything oh boy all right let's uh get to dave's losers real quick parker washington two catches for 20 yards and joe flacco 12 fantasy points at pittsburg so the steelers absolutely tried to get joe flacco to throw the ball way quickly and he did that for most of the game 40 pass attempts and he didn't even have 200 yards he had the one touch John was a great throw to T. Higgins on a play where he actually did have time to throw. And then after that, there was just a ton of short underneath throws, lots of Chase Brown, a bunch of Noah fan. Jamar Chase really didn't get involved on a lot of those. He had 10 targets.

He couldn't get going, but everybody's going to start him anyway. But we know that Joe Burrow will be back soon. Bengals sitting at 3 and 7, their seasons hanging in the balance. I almost wonder if they're going to try and rush Burrow to get back on the field as soon as possible. and maybe that does mean week 12 instead of week 13. I do not feel good about starting Joe Flacco moving forward. And there's going to come a time real soon where it's going to be easy to cut them. And that's going to be based on Burrow, obviously.

But the clock's ticking. It's the Patriots next week. It's going to be another tough matchup for the Bengals. I'd start them next week at home against the Patriots. Really? Well, I also think, again, I just don't think that it's a guarantee that Burrow comes back. I guess I'd mean that way. At all.

Yeah. If they lose next week, then they can make the case to not bring them back. Exactly. The players want to play, man. I know, but I'm pretty sure Burrow himself acknowledged that the team's record could factor into it. I will say the Flacco start next week probably depends on whether Jamar Chase is available. Yeah, yeah. Oh, sure.

And Parker Washington is 58% roster, Dave, real quick. What should his roster percentage be next week? It's going to go down, but this was game script all the way. The Jaguars didn't have to throw that. much. There was only 22 pass attempts for Trevor Lawrence. Jacobi Myers got the most targets in the game with six, but they ran the ball. My goodness, 34 times just between Tutin and E.TN. LeQuint Allen had eight carries mopping up at the end of the game.

Like, this isn't how a typical Jaguars game goes. So I'd like to think that there's a chance for Parker Washington moving forward, but other receivers can get healthy in Jacksonville, I.E. Brian Thomas Jr. Myers will continue to take steps forward. Parker Washington, not the PPR stud that we were open for not at all all right let's take a break and come back and talk about miami washington and all the other games from today's action we'll be right back with amex platinum 400 dollars in annual credits for travel and dining means you not only satisfy your travel bug but your taste buds too that's the powerful backing of amex conditions apply it's hockey season and you can get anything you need delivered

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yeah how about bejean robinson getting some goal line work i told you people were making out like oh tyler rogers are goal line guy no he's gonna factor in but bjohn robinson had two goal line touchdowns one of them from the four yard line one of them super close uh you're gonna get a little frustrated with ollie gordon getting some work near the goal line seems certainly that devon singletary is the giant's goal line guy uh you're going to get a little frustrated with blake corum working at the goal line he worked at the goal line unsuccessfully and then kairn williams came in and finished the job. Ken Walker scored a one-yard touchdown run, but they were in hurry-up,

and they were just keeping their personnel on the field. So I had- He had another touchdown run called back by penalty. He did, he did. Yeah, it was interesting that Walker played so much in this game where they were trailing. I actually didn't see the snap counts, but I've got it. Yeah. Do you want an hour when we talk about the game?

I'll tell you now, 51% for Walker, 43 for Charbonnet, but Charbonnet still had his edge on third downs and inside the 10 for what it's worth. Okay. And that's, oh, yeah, Bejel Toadn't work near the goal. He got a goal line touchdown. He's injured right now, but there aren't that many running backs that are just going to get all of the goal line carries. They're starting to see that.

I'll skip the almost touchdowns. Let's get to the games. All right, Heath, you ready for some believe it or not? Yes. Miami 16, Washington 13. Bill and Zach's excellent adventure to the waiver wire. They should be two of the most dropped players this week, 85 and 89% rostered.

That's a believe it. Zacharts and Chorri Crossley-Chamerite, yeah. And Bill's, what, 89% rostered, Chris Rodriguez, 18% rostered. One of my biggest regrets this season was when I dropped Cross-Gi-Mirited for who was the quarterback. This is a regret? Huge regret. It was for like two weeks.

Yeah. It was, man, who was it? It was in the Super Flex League, right? Yeah. It was Jacoby percent. It wasn't Jacoby percent. I wish it was Jacoby Reset. It was, I think it was Cam, no, it wasn't Cam Ward.

Was someone I dropped? Was it Cooper Rush? It was Cooper Rush. I dropped at a great cross game merit for Cooper Rush. And every week that goes by, I'm like, eh. It just keeps getting better and better. I just keeps getting better and better. Marioita was okay, too.

It was bad. Mario is pretty bad. You know, Mariotta had 19.4 fantasy points going into overtime. Chance for a nice game. They threw an interception. He ends up at 17.4.

All right, question about this game, because I think we pretty much know. Waddle had a couple of drops or he could have had a good game. He had a ball knocked out of his hands in the end zone. When Terry McLaren comes back,

let's say it's this week. Do we, will we trust next week? We'll be this week. Sorry, week 14 or whenever there's their buys week 12, so week 13. When McLaren comes back, if it's week 13. Are we going to trust Debo Samuel as a start?

Who do they play? They play Denver. It was more of a just in general. Are we going to trust Debo when McLaren's back? I don't want to trust them as must-start guys with Mariotta. I think if Jane Danos is a quarterback, it's a little easier to buy, even if he's not 100%. But with Marioada, I think it's just tough to trust. We've seen so many up and down performances.

This is now five starts for Marioita and two good games for Debo. one good game for Ertz, essentially, nine PPR points last time. Like, him supporting multiple targets just doesn't feel safe. So I think just in the case of both of them, especially in a tough matchup, you probably just view them as high-end number three receivers at best. Most of their games after Denver could be high-scoring. And that encourages me with McLaurin and Debo. I don't think I'll ever view Debo is anything more than a number three receiver,

but I think that there could be some good games if Daniels is bad. once they're past Denver. Next game, Chicago, 19, Minnesota, 17. The Bears are that team that just keeps winning these. These are games the Vikings used to win all the time. I think it's the same thing with the Chiefs and the Broncos.

Broncos are 5'0 in these games now this year. Yeah, look at that. Bears, Broncos, Super Bowl. Don't even have to watch the first three quarters. All right, what do we got for this one, Heath? As long as Cole commits stays healthy, Colston Lovelland is not a thing. I believe, I believe it, but I also think Loveland is victim to just so many mouths defeat in an offense that's not going to throw the ball a ton from week to week.

Loveland and Bird are probably going to be two guys that we see so much potential. They'll make a player or two. They may have a game that pops up that you're like, oh, my God, this is great. And then it just doesn't seem like it could be consistent this season. Tell me how you're feeling about DeAndre Swift, who outcarried Menangai 21 to 12, outgained him 90 to 23, but ended up having a horrible fantasy game because 21 carries for 90 yards with no catches and no touchdowns is bad. That's bad in full PPR and half PPR, but in non-PPR, I think you'll take it. Okay.

And he played almost 60% of the snaps. He still has a little bit of an edge on third down. and this team can still run the ball that they're rotating no question one drive is swift one drive is monong guy and it's two worst games the season have come against minnesota for what's that yeah yeah yeah i mean i i i think if you tell them you say any running back is getting 15 plus touches or certainly 20 plus touches you're starting them on a week-to-week basis and he's just a number two running man yeah all right it's berg next i thought i thought both the bears and the rams made themselves worse with this

over-rotating of running backs. Yeah, man. Yeah, they'll fix it. At least in L.A., I think they'll fix it. I hope so. I mean, Corum has actually been pretty good this year. You know, this week was horrible. But it's getting frustrating. Aaron Jones, by the way. But Mononga has been pretty good.

I'm sorry, Adam. Manunga has been pretty good for a while. I do think the rushing average today, but I think he's still going to be a factor. I do think the problem with us expecting them to fix it is as they get closer to the playoffs and as they keep winning, that it does not

get fixed for our purposes. Aaron Jones is going to be a guy that I think a lot of people are going to be starting. I mean, it does have Green Bay and Seattle in his next two matchups, but he is just dominating touches. Jordan Mason did have a touchdown, but if you have Aaron Jones, you've got

a good set up there. Carolina 30, Atlanta 27, surprising score in this one, and Panthers are six and five. And Heath, what have we got? If Drake London is out, you can't start any Falcons pass catchers. I don't believe it because

Bejohn Robinson catches passes. Oh, Dave. You know what I mean, Dave. Well, I mean, it's probably going to be cousins. It sounds like that. It'll be cousins going to Mooney. I would think if there is no London and there

probably is no Mooney, Pitts is still a starting tight-in. I don't know. I don't know if I believe it. I mean, they're playing a saint. I don't care I've seen enough of Kirk Cousins this year I mean but yeah

Pitts is going to get eight plus targets 8 PPR points Maybe but I mean again the potential's there for him Well which game did London miss earlier this year Didn't he miss a game? He did Which one was it?

It was Miami I think it was the same setup right It was no, it was Cousins with no, Drake London. Was it Miami? London did not play against Miami. And Kyle Pitts had. And Pitt had nine catches for 59 yards. On nine targets.

There you go. Kirk Cousins threw, how many passes? He threw 31 passes. That's quite a target chair. All right, something to consider. How about this? Believe it or not, RICO Dowdell's 2.6 yards per carry over his last two games our cause for concern for fantasy managers.

Do you feel that way if his foot is in bounds and he gets a touchdown? Right. Well, I would ask it. Yeah, because that was on a catch anyway. But he has, you just wonder if they're going to say, all right, listen, we need to back off a little bit and get Chuba Hubbard some more touches and this and that. They did this game.

Or the guy playing time. Yeah, he didn't get a lot of theories. I don't know. I mean, taking on the 49ers, we've seen what this run defenses look like at times this year. Like, he's a must dark guy. All right. Pittsburgh 34, Cincinnati, 12.

Mason Rudolph is currently better than Aaron Rogers. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know if either of them are particularly good. I don't think it's a downgrade for the Steelers if Rudolph has to start next week. That, I believe. yeah i think it's a small downgrade oh man

d k mack last year rudolph was great for pickens dk mcalf he was great for gainwell he was 87 percent started metcalfs at the bears next week five catches for 49 yards on eight targets eight targets is that a season high for him i think it

uh no he had nine targets one game against cleveland but ugh it's just not happening um you know james double team, like crazy. And a bunch of catches late in the game were on, like, shallow underneath routes. I don't know if they were crossing routes, but they were real close to the line of scrimmage. Rogers continues to miss Metcalf on at least one big play a week.

Jamie, you were going to talk about Chase Brown as a winner, but then you changed it to Michael Wilson. But he had a really nice game. What do you have to say about Chase Brown? In every start since Joe Flagg, I'm sorry, since the Packers game. So the Steelers game was week seven. So since week seven on, Chase Brown has been. a back to being what he was a year ago you know the workload's been there for him the production has been there his two best running games for what it's worth 99 yards rushing today

100 yards rushing in week seven against the the Steelers uh work in the passing game has been fantastic like he's back to must start status yeah 83% of the snaps so that's another big factor remember when shemage piran was healthy brown was like 55% of the snaps so getting the huge opportunity makes obviously a humongous difference And he had a great game without the Bengals even getting inside the 10-yard line of the Steelers. And even next week, the Patriots run defense has been dominant. Again, you're getting four plus catches out the gate. Milton Williams on IR for the Patriots.

We'll see if that makes a difference in their run defense. All right, Houston, 16, Tennessee 13. Heath, before the game, I actually talked about this Tennessee run defense. First game all year they were going to have both of their defensive tackles. healthy. It's happened before but in each case one of them left with an injury. So I thought maybe their run defense will actually be good because it's usually you could bank on that with Tennessee and they did a great job. 18 carriers or 44 yards

for Woody Marks. But what do you have for this game? That's a great transition. You should go right back to Woody Marks on Thursday night against the bills. I believe it. Yeah. Usage was fantastic. Bill's run defense is atrocious. Short week. Here comes Woody. Here come the bills. Love it.

All right. Nico Collins with another big game on the Tennessee set. Do we just want Davis Mills to say the starter for Nico Collins' purposes? Yeah. And that reason only. Let me just see something real quick before we do that here. I want to see Stroud, 27, 24, 38, 28, 27, 49 pass attempts, 39, and then 10. So he has had three games with 38 or more pass attempts.

I only bring that up because Davis Mills has thrown. 45 and 41 passes in his last two games. Well, one was overtime. Yeah, but, but yeah. It doesn't matter. They were both dog fights. I guess I'm just saying Nico has had games with C.J. Stroud where Stroud has thrown a lot.

Oh, I'm joking, but obviously, I mean, like Nico's performances have been better with Davis Mills. And you would think just based on how the bills should perform, like the Texans are probably going to be chasing points again. Okay, next game, because we don't really have to talk about Tennessee

because we're not starting anyone on Tennessee. Jacksonville 35 Chargers 6 we covered the Jaguars I'm sorry we covered the chargers do we have anything I feel like we covered both teams pretty well Jacobi Myers is a start next week three receiver leagues I believe it they get the Cardinals on the road

well certainly depends on Brian Thomas Jr. doesn't it yes that would be a fair point and Brenton Strange and Brenton Strange All right. Travis E.T.N. could have a really nice finish if, well, even with Tootin, but if Tutin's not there, you know, could certainly pay off for you. All right. Next game. Buffalo 44, Tampa Bay 32. Okay. You should drop Tess Johnson for Michael Wilson.

Yes, if that's your most droppable player to get Michael Wilson, even if it's for just one week. I mean, it's all contingent on whether or not Marvin Harrison's okay to play. It's also contingent on Godwin playing, too. What do we make of Baker Mayfield right now? So let's take a look at his last five games, four games. 13.1 fantasy points at Detroit. He just played horribly in that game. He missed open guys.

It's just a bad game. 4.1 fantasy points at New Orleans through 24 passes. I don't really remember the scenario there. Defense had a huge game for it. Then the run game was good. everyone's probably thinking, no, he's not going to be good against the Patriots. He scores 28.9 fantasy points.

And then today, 18.8 fantasy points, but that was with five carries for 39 yards and a touchdown rushing. Where are we at, Heath, with Baker Mayfield? I think he is a borderline QB1. You definitely start against good matchups and definitely sit against the worst matchups.

And if it's a middle matchup, then see if you're a guy better. I probably don't want to start him against the Rams next week. On the road. Then let's go to Buffalo. There's a really, it's fun to watch Josh Allen sometimes. It's fun to watch him every time. Take over.

Any Tyrell Shaver's interest? Okay. How about this? Any thoughts on Khalil Shakir? One of the most consistent players in fantasy having a horrible game, one catch for negative three yards. Dave?

So Keon Coleman was better than Khalil Shakir after all, non-PPR. In non-PPR, yeah. Yeah. You know, the big difference that the bills made was spreading the ball around. They had three, six, 10 different pass catchers.

Throwing to the running back game. Yeah, through the running backs a little bit more. That was a positive. They should have been doing that all along. all right not much to make of it there's not going to be easy game for him Thursday night Thursday night no no but if Shakir's going to stick in the slot which is where he normally is he's staying away from those outside corners in Houston and you'd think that it would give him an opportunity to have a nice bounce back game I think I think you can go right back to him

as a flex yeah how about Josh Allen you think he'll be a top five quarterback for you next week yep some really good matchups next week okay i have a question um josh allen next week or gino smith this week who did you take josh all right green bay 27 giants 20 christian watson with his 20 point performance today will be the best packers wide receiver rest to season i mean it's you know it's the grab bag right and we don't know who's going to be in on a basis. Why not take the guy with the most upset? Well, I think it's really only

him or Dobbs, to be fair, right? There's no way we're going to pick Golden or Wicks. No, and it feels like Musgrave may not replace Tucker Craft. No. Dobbs had eight targets in this game, four catches for 53 yards. Watson had four for 46 and two touchdowns

on five targets. So that is four straight. He's incredible. Yeah, four or five times. Awesome touchdown catch. The second one was awesome. Both of them were. Yeah, that's fair. Heath, I'm going to take Dobbs and PPR. Okay. Who are you going to take?

I'll probably still have Dobbs higher. I will too, but I probably would not feel confident starting any of them at this point. I obviously watched this game, and I have to say, I think Jordan Love really played great. You won't see it in the numbers because they dropped a lot of balls, and the pass rush was really all over him. I still think he might be one of the most over-rastered players in fantasy, though, at 93%. It's kind of weird. There's just like all this hope for Jordan Love. not their offense, but maybe that changes with Josh Jacobs out if he misses time.

On the giant side, I don't know if the Packers' offense drop more passes or the Packers' defense. Because they drop three interceptions in this game from James Winston, but they got the one at the end, which ironically wasn't Winston's fault. Wondale Robinson continues to be a little frustrating here, but he did have nine targets. How do you – Khalil Shakir or Wondell Robinson, who you like better, rest of season? How long is Darius Slate up? I'm going to say one more a game. Just against.

I'll take Shakir. Okay. Well, I think you're crazy. I have just about as much confidence in that as I do, Romeo Dodds versus Christian Watson. Wando has a buy. I forgot about that. So keep that in mind.

All right. And then Theo Johnson, I don't know. It's just kind of a disappointing game with Isaiah Hodgins coming in and leading the team and receiving. Yeah. That's a crazy one. He was on the Steelers practice squad when this week started. Rams at Seahawks.

Ram's, no, where was this game? It was in Los Angeles. Rams win, 2119. It was a weird game. Imagine getting four turnovers from Sam Donald and nearly losing on a kick. Yeah. Devante Adams.

Devante Ams had one of the strangest stat lines today. It was one catch for, what, seven yards in a touch? No. One yard. One yard. That's right. he's a goal line running back eight targets

eight targets yikes no it didn't look very good between him and stafford and it wasn't I didn't think it was all either of theirs fault and they both

made some mistakes on those targets but you're going to start him again next week I'm not sure anybody cares AJ Barner matters but Rashid Shaheed doesn't I don't believe it

I'm not sure either one of them matter I think AJ Barner's in that 12 to 15 range of tight ends. Well, he's also there, push-push-push guy. Right, that's part of it, is that he's going to get some of those stupid chances. Yeah, and he's converted on seven out of eight, I believe. What about the game for Ken Walker, Jamie? He started in 53% of leagues. Ken Walker had 16 carries, 67 yards and a touchdown, a one-yard touchdown, as I mentioned earlier,

and three catches for 44 yards. This is after five straight games with single-digit PPR fantasy points. Clearly, if your trade deadline has not happened yet, this should be one of the biggest sell-high candidates you can find. And as you just alluded to, they're playing the Titans this week,

and the Titans' run defense could be surprising in not the good way to help your running back situation. So I think when we had the mailbag, there was somebody that said they were trading for the Seahawks running backs, and we said there's the potential of if one goes down, the other one could be a superstar. So if you want to kind of, you know, see about that happening.

If there's a Zach Charbonnet injury, then we get all of what the best of Ken Walker could be. But at this point, like, I'm going to use this game as a selling point and try and flip him for something that could be better long term. Okay. Anything else in this game? I think we're good. They just didn't really – Pook and Kua had a very modest game, but they just didn't really throw the ball that much. 28 pass attempts. They didn't have the ball that much.

Should we be trying to sell Kairn Williams based on this? but it's now five of his last six, he has 14 or fewer carries. You can't just mock it because if Blake Corum scores that touchdown, then Kyran has a terrible game. We're supposed to see beyond the box score, Heath. And beyond the box score is telling me that this guy is in a timeshare. I'm laughing because we've been saying it for three years. No, that's not true.

I mean, one of the- Dave. No, the appeal of Kyron Williams, he's a good running back on a great offense. and he gets all the work. That's not the, only two of those three points are good, are valid now. He's had at least 15 PPR points in five of his last six games. He's averaging 16.5 on the year. That's the 10th best running back in PPR.

And he doesn't catch a lot of passes. At some point, Adam, you're just going to have to throw your arms up and say, all right, I'm starting. Oh, I do it every week. It's not at some point. So then what are we doing here? And this was against a really good run defense, too. Yeah.

Yes. He was awesome early in this game. Yep. What are we doing here, you ask? Okay, what we're doing is we're looking at a player who is producing, and we're thinking to ourselves, is this production legit, or is it too good to be true? Because his role is not good enough. We would do this with basically any player.

I don't know why we're not doing it with Kyron Williams. Now, I'm hopeful that after this game, they say, listen, he's going to be our goal line back. But if he's just alternating everywhere, including at the goal line, and he's not really that involved in the passing, game. I'm not saying you sell him for peanuts. I'm saying maybe this is peak value for this version of Kairn Williams. I mean, every player draws a price to a certain degree. You know, so if you have the ability to trade Kairn Williams for something that has maybe long-term appeal, so like if you think Bucky Irving coming back is going to be better than Kairn Williams,

maybe you can do some sort of package for Kyrin and for Bucky and something else. Or if the Josh Jacobs manager is going to lose him for a week. or two, and you think that you want Josh Jacobs coming back because of what he has been, and might be better than Karen, because he has been, then maybe that's a trade you try to explore as well for some sort of package deal. But at this point, I think you know

what Kairn is, as Heath alluded to. Like, he's just a very solid number to running back. He's the lead running back, even in a timeshare, on a very good offense, and there's touchdown potential on a week-to-y basis. I would like to look up what his snapshot was in December of

last year. If you give me a minute, I will look it up. I wonder if it increases they got closer to the playoffs. We see that all the time from teams that want to keep their best players on the field as they make their playoff push. It's a different situation though. He's never split. I don't know if it's going to be though

because Blake quorum had a terrible game. Yeah, but Blake quorum's had a good season. Again, I'll just go, I'll go back to what I said earlier. If they continue to win, they're going to try and keep Kairn as fresh as possible for the playoffs. So if this is working for them, they're going to continue to do it. Yeah. Look, I don't want to be the anti-Kyron

guy. I've got him in two leagues. I start him every week. I'm just wondering if we thought maybe it was an opportunity to try to get first round value. What do you think you can get in trade for him at this point? Like, yeah. Because I think everybody that's paying attention sees that he's not getting every touch like he usually does. But at the same time, there are people that look at it and say, okay, he's producing every week. Yeah, I would say maybe. Like, who would you rather have the rest of the season? Kiron Williams or Javante Williams? Forget about what happens tomorrow. Oh, great question. that's

Giovante Kyran Williams or Rico Doudal Kairn Kyrin Williams or Chase Brown Kairn So I mean That's the range of players

I think he belongs in Maybe even Derek Henry You know They're kind of similar No I completely agree It's if You know Jamir Gibbs is a horrible game tonight

Can you get Jamir Gibbs for Kairn Williams And And something Not straight up Not straight up Not straight. Better be a big something.

Like an idiot would trade like Chris McCaffrey for Karen Williams, Nico Collins. Hey, that worked out pretty damn well for me the last couple weeks. All right. All right. Let's go. Oh, here's December 2024.

These are the snap shares for Kairn Williams. 67%, 82%, 86%, 84%, but there's such a huge difference, though. They, they, they, what? Sean McVeigh has another guy that he seems to trust. Yeah, but whether we like it or not. David, these are the same snapshares he had all year last year. It didn't increase in December.

His snapshares are lower now than they were at the beginning of this year. He's lost work compared to the beginning of this year. At some point, they're going to trust him more than Corum. They already do trust them more than Corum. Like, we're going to get a game, to your point, Adam. Corum finds the end zone today instead of Kyron Williams. And the splits are still the same. And then the panic, you know, button gets hit because people,

People are like, oh, my God, this is happening, and this is not what we wanted. And, you know, Heath will tell everybody, calm down, and he's going to be right. But, you know, this is what happens. He's going to have the game D'Andre Swift had today. Right. Exactly. Great point. And it's sad because if they, if quorum weren't part of the picture, then I think

you're talking about a top five. Would you trade Caird Williams for Travis ETSA straight up? No. No. I wouldn't. I mean, if, well, if Tudin's out for the, I have no idea what Tudin's injury is, but in a Tudinless world, I think I might. I think I would. So I wonder if people who are running back hungry could go to the Kairn Williams manager in their league and gauge how that manager feels about Kairn Williams.

And if they feel like you might feel, maybe the price tag won't be so bad for him. I just think like if you're, if you're expecting a top five running back, he's not going to be that in this environment. If you're expecting a top 15 running back, you're fine. Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, I'd go a little higher than top 15. I think he could be top 12. I agree with everything. I honestly think we're on the same page.

Just felt like worth bringing up because he's been so good. But unfortunately, he has quorum, you know, getting too much work. All right, we got three games left. Let's try to do it quickly here. San Francisco 41, Arizona 22. People are asking about Ricky Pearsall. So Ricky Pearsall had a total dud. give me a believe it or not on Pearsall.

I'm not going to react to Ricky Pearsall's first game back from an extended absence in a leg injury, so I don't think you should either. I'm not going to ask a believe it or not about it. Brock Purdy and Jacoby Brissette are both top 12 quarterbacks rest of the season. Yeah, I believe it with Brissette. Yeah.

I believe it both. Yeah, there's probably enough quarterbacks where you can squirm a little bit, and with Purdy, you might not. I wouldn't be surprised if I've already scored the same number of points as per set and we have a lot longer history of him being good than Berset and the 49ers defense is not good through less than half as many passes too as per cent.

All right, good news on Drake London as well. What do you got? Shepter says Drake London's knee injury is not thought to be overly serious and he is scheduled to undergo an MRI Monday to determine the extent of injury and how much time he will miss, if any, per sources. I love how like both of these updates are like, these players are nothing serious, but they're getting MRIs. Well, I mean, look,

Arronda Gadsden got an MRI and he was fine. He played the next week. It's true. I hope they're there. I need them. The bottom line is it doesn't sound like end of season for either one. Right. You know what they said about Drake London's, the injuries? It said it would have been a lot worse if it had been on the MetLife turf. That's what I heard.

But Ricky Pearsall played 85% of the snaps, which is good. But generally speaking, as someone who's had a lot of Ricky Pearsall, I have very, very low expectations. I just, I don't think I'm going to be sitting there. You asked the question earlier,

I think if Michael Wilson's available and Ricky Pearson's last guy on your bench, you're dropping Ricky Pierce off for Michael Wilson. There's a decent chance he's fourth in the target tree. And there's a decent chance we just... You might be fifth if you comes back to him. There's a different chance that we just, that it's a week by week thing, you know,

that next week Kittle has a horrible game and Pierce all is good and it's just like the chargers. Hopefully Kittles is the consistent one, the conchial. of them. All right. Baltimore 23, Cleveland 16. Mark Andrews' touchdown was the first awesome thing to happen with the push-push.

I would just go back to the Cardinals real quick. Greg Dortch should also be picked up, too, if Marvin Harrison's out. Yeah. Right. Did you see how fast Mark Andrews looked? That was great. Yeah, it was great. Outran a linebacker.

Really enjoyed it. 35-yard touchdown for Mark Andrews. He just keeps putting up fantasy points. That's his first rushing touchdown ever. Yeah. Derek Henry, guys, encouraged, feel the same. 18 carries, 103 yards, and a touchdown, two catches for 19 yards. It was looking like going to be another bad game for him in a really good second half.

Jets, bingles, Steelers, bingles. Yeah. Here comes Derek Henry. All right. If he had a bad game, he would have been one of the biggest by-low guys you could have asked for. Jets run defense has stepped up. I know on a, they obviously gave a huge game

at Trayvion, but on a per carry basis the last two weeks, they've been surprisingly good against Judkins and Trayon-Henderson. On the other side, you just can't trust any Browns. But Quintan Judkins,

we did the Worryometer with him earlier, sorry. So Harold Fanon Jr., hmm, 71% rostered you looking for replacements? You drop in him for Jawan Johnson? I think it's only about 44% rostered. 100%.

Yes. I'd rather have Jawan Johnson, but he's not going to be ranked outside of the top 15, I don't think. He does get the Raiders next week. Okay, last game. Denver 22, Kansas City, 19. Yeah.

I think somebody put a believe it or not in the chat that the Chiefs were going to miss the playoffs. I don't believe it. You get nervous about that? No, I think 12 and 5 was my prediction, so you just got to win out. It's not that big a deal. So who's guaranteed to be in right now?

Broncos are going to be in. Patriots. Be in. Patriots. Patriot Pian. Not so fast, not the Colts. Not so fast. Denver, New England, Indy are your top three seeds right now before taking into consideration.

You think Jacksonville catch them? I mean, it's over. The Raiders don't matter. So for the week. Pittsburgh's the four seed. Buffalo's the five seed. The Chargers are the six seed and the Jaguars are the seven seed. I think there are four teams that are in.

And one of them is a wild card. Right. Both the bills and Patriots are in. Broncos are in. and then Steelers, Chargers, Jacksonville. Who knows? Chiefs, Ravens could be in that mix. Texans.

Texans are tied with the Chiefs of Ravens. It's pathetic on my part, by the way. Total host fail that I have not brought up R.J. Harvey yet. I should have led the show with him instead of an hour and 10 minutes. But why I say I'm not quite ready to put the Colts in, they get the Texans and the Jaguars twice. they get the chiefs on the road Seattle on the road and San Francisco

the Colts have a brutal schedule and four games against teams that are chasing them in the division so they'll probably make the playoffs but I think if there's one thing that could collapse it's them I'll be very nervous What's that?

Colts wrote seven wins right now eight eight and two eight and two so they'll split with Jacksonville they never win in Jacksonville Yeah, I'm just saying they're probably going to make it. But if there's one team that could collapse to me, it's the Daniel Jones-led Colts.

It's very reasonable. I mean, I think just looking at it like, does Houston catch them? It's going to be tough. When you say their schedule is bad, like it's, I don't know if there's one that's even worse than there's. At Kansas City, Houston. I just gave it. Oh, you gave the whole thing? Yes.

let's talk about R.J. Harvey. Jaliel McLaughlin got the touchdown. Harvey had a pretty bad game. Thoughts? I mean, at least we know now there's no J.K. Dobbins for the rest of the regular season. So they have their by-week to sort of get whatever their plan is going to be together, which I'm going to guess based on Sean Payton's history is going to be a frustrating committee. you should be adding Jule McLaughlin that wouldn't be dropping RJ Harvey

so what's their schedule coming off their buy I'm afraid to read it to they have a buy they're at Washington at Las Vegas Greed Bay Jacksonville at the Chiefs

and then the Chargers in week 18 so it's a mixed bag I think you treat Harvey as a high-end flex and hope for the best you know that he closes the season's wrong yeah do you at least take away some satisfaction that he played 61% of the

snaps yeah of course i mean the the the idea was what what was this going to look like we knew i i don't want to say we knew i did not expect him to get the majority the the the the entire entirety of the touches to you know completely dominate the backfield and so it was going to be was it going to be one guy was going to be was going to be one other guy or two other guys and so i think just looking at it you know and reading some of the stuff at the end of the week especially once Dobbins was placed on IR, it was almost all the beat riders said they're going to elevate McLaughlin over Tyler Badee because of keeping Badee in his role and giving McLaughlin the, basically the Harvey touches, you know, shifting those around a little bit, but the Harvey playing time. And so, you know, how is that all going to look? And so it just was kind of wait and see.

And listen, this is one of the best run defenses in the league. So it wasn't going to be easy for Harvey. And so you want to see what it looks like coming back against Washington. Like that could be amazing. Yeah, I hope so. Yes. I just want to finish the show by saying, Adam, you did a fantastic job in the FFT league this week.

Stop. Like the fantastic roster building started Michael Wilson, started Trayvion Henderson, you know, 142 points, and your quarterback hasn't even scored a full point yet. you are just kicking my tail. Yeah, I know you're going to beat me. I know you're going to beat me. No.

You are going to beat me. You're like a 70% win chance. That's because the website thinks that Jalen Hurts is going to score a point tonight. But I got news for you. This is a garbage passing game. And they are not, he's got another stinker. All right, listen, Keynes Gators right now. We've got to go.

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