Fantasy Football Today - Week 11 Recap! Cam Up, Wilson Down, Taylor is Incredible (11/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: November 22, 2021Is Jonathan Taylor the easy #1 player rest of season or does Christian McCaffrey have a case? And who is the big winner (7:35) from Week 11? The big loser (9:50)? We'll tell you why we're encouraged b...y Elijah Moore and what we learned about the 49ers backfield ... An early look at the waiver wire (12:00) which ties into our news and notes (14:00). Then we've got some trends and stats (16:30) you need to know including which team shuts down elite WRs. And it's time for some Buy or Sell (21:00) on struggling QBs Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson and Josh Allen plus some WRs who had been struggling but came through today ... More winners (31:00) like CEH and DeVonta Freeman and losers (34:10) like Tee Higgins and D'Onta Foreman. Then we review each game (38:30) with our Fantasy takes ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Week 11. Let's talk about it.
You know, we were kind of turned off by week 10. It was weird.
And then week 11 started out with this dud of a Thursday night game.
But today was awesome. And you know what, Dave Richard?
I'm going to say it. This is the best football season I can remember.
There is no clear favorite.
Everyone can lose
and everyone can win every single
week in the NFL, and that's great.
It's great for fantasy, too.
I'm very happy right now
with the NFL. Great product. Good job,
NFL. It's a great
product. I wish there were more games that were like
the Packers-Vikings game than there
are the Cowboys-Chiefs game.
We like high scoring games.
They're more fun that way,
but defense is great too.
And we'll,
we'll take defense,
but you're,
you really hit the nail on the head.
There is a lot of unpredictability from week to week.
I think the NFL is experiencing it in a way that I can't quite remember.
Listen,
there's unpredictability every year.
Everybody that's been playing fantasy for two years,
10 years, 20 years, they know this, but this year we sit around every Sunday while the games are going on and we try and figure out, well, who's the best team in the NFL. And you can make a case for the chiefs. You can make a case for the bucks. You can make a case for the Packers, maybe even make a case for the Patriots who are currently in first place in their division. Yeah, I thought it was the Bills.
I thought it was the Bills.
I thought it was the Bills too.
Unbelievable game by Jonathan Taylor.
Unbelievable game by the Colts.
And an unbelievably bad defensive showing by Sean McDermott's crew.
We'll talk about it.
We'll get into all of it.
But it has just been a very unpredictable year.
Don't want to say it's frustrating
because I think that unpredictability
is really hitting everybody's fantasy team
in some form or another.
No one's got the perfect fantasy team.
I mean, you're doing pretty good
if you've got Jonathan Taylor
and anybody else that does well in a given week,
but consistency is hard to come by right now.
And the fantasy managers that are finding ways to win,
I bet they're doing it either A,
with players that they weren't expecting,
or B, they're just falling into victories week after week,
kind of by luck, against teams that are more unlucky than they are.
Well, I think an interesting fantasy trend now is just
when you start looking at the best quarterbacks week after week,
it's a lot of streamers.
It's Rodgers number one and Jalen Hurts number three,
but Cousins is two and Cam is tied for three,
Simeon, Heineke, McCoy, Flacco, Dalton, Tua, Garoppolo,
Josh Allen.
Yeah, that's what we got right now.
I mean, you would have smacked me across the face
if I told you start Trevor Simeon, sit Patrick Mahomes.
Or if I told you, Mahomes and Dak Prescott will not combine for one touchdown,
but they'll combine for three interceptions.
Again, lean into the unpredictability of fantasy football.
You should still start the players that you think have the best chance
to help you win.
Nothing's changing in that regard.
It's just that the range of outcomes
that we talk about for players, it's just gotten wider for everybody. And last week you had my
homes and Prescott were numbers one and two of my homes was number one with a bullet 46 points.
Josh Allen was number four, but the rest of the top 12 was, was pretty messy. You know,
you have Mac Jones up there. You did have Simeon. You had Jalen Hurts, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Tannehill, Garoppolo, Heineke. And then you had to have bad
games from Lamar Jackson, from Tom Brady, from Matt Ryan, from Matthew Stafford, from Aaron
Rogers, from Russell Wilson. All right. Anyway, enough about that. Here's a Twitter poll to start
things off. I got to say, I was very lucky. I don't have any Jonathan Taylor. I know you have
some Jonathan Taylor. You're probably having a good day.
Because you, by the end of draft season, were all over.
You would love Jonathan Taylor late first round.
I didn't have him in any leagues.
I didn't face him in any leagues.
I was lucky.
But I said, let's try full PPR.
Who would you rather have rest of season?
Both players still have a bye.
Jonathan Taylor or Christian McCaffrey.
And I knew Taylor would win.
But he's winning 76% to 24% over Christian McCaffrey and I knew Taylor would win but he's winning 76
percent to 24 percent over Christian McCaffrey yep and yeah I I don't blame people but you know
Taylor's got this stretch of eight straight games with 100 plus total yards I actually think it's
like more like 110 total yards or more in eight straight games he just tied Marshall Fox record
for consecutive games with 100 plus scrimmage yards.
But Christian McCaffrey also has a hundred plus yards in every game that he has started and
finished a hundred plus scrimmage yards. And you know, you're going to get more catches from him.
So I still think like, it doesn't matter, but I probably wanted to, but this is interesting
how lopsided it was for Taylor day. You want to give me quick thoughts. Then we'll get into week
11. This isn't going to be the last time you see Jonathan Taylor
winning in a poll ahead of Christian McCaffrey.
If things stay the way they are for the rest of this year,
you're going to see Taylor picked ahead of Christian McCaffrey
in fantasy drafts next year.
No one, nobody will forget the injuries that have befallen
Christian McCaffrey over the last two seasons.
And I think that's an easy answer for Taylor over McCaffrey
because we've seen Taylor, who's younger, stronger,
stay on the field longer.
He seems healthier.
Is it easier, though, rest of season?
Rest of season, is that easy?
I think the better Twitter poll question might have been,
and maybe if you had posted it before today,
if both backs are guaranteed to be healthy rest of season who would you rather have in ppr and i think you'd get closer results
there but i i think the injury factor is going to scare people from taking christian mccaffrey
for the rest of this season certainly for trading for him they would give up more to get john than
taylor in a trade and next year again with the caveat that everybody stays healthy from this point forward people are
going to remember mcafree being hurt two years straight they will be nervous to draft him with
the first pick maybe even with the third pick probably with the fifth pick you're probably
gonna have to get you might get them after the first five. I don't know. Toward the end of round one.
I'll take him second.
All right.
Anyway,
join our Facebook group.
So,
cause I can't even think of the,
who would it be?
If not him,
you know,
Dalvin cook.
Cause I think you're going to make the case for Dalvin cook.
Najee Harris is going to get an improved offensive line.
He's going to be sensational.
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football today the link is always in the episode description important stuff dave let's get to it
the biggest winner from week 11 is...
Let's, for fantasy purposes,
I think it's Elijah Moore.
Just the fact that he had another amazing game,
this time with Joe Flacco,
double-digit targets,
playing like the superstar that
I thought we'd have a chance of seeing
a lot sooner earlier in the year.
That's why I drafted him to a bunch of my teams.
And I knew that I could drop him
after the first couple of games of the season
and know that I could go back to him.
Last week was the time when a lot of other people were going back to him.
I picked up Moore in a lot of leagues where I could.
But he's going to be one of the hottest names off the waiver wire now,
still available in a little more than a third of CBS Sports Leagues.
Yeah, 61% rostered for Elijah Moore, only 19% started.
Eight catches, 141 yards, one touchdown on 11 targets.
And he already had three straight games with 12 or more PPR fantasy points.
So he's now gone for 67 yards, 84 yards and two touchdowns,
44 yards and one touchdown, and now 141 yards and a touchdown
in a loss to the Dolphins. But he scored against the Bills in a loss to the Dolphins.
But, you know, he scored against the Bills.
He scored against the Dolphins.
He gets Carolina next week.
No, I'm sorry.
Who do the Jets get next week?
I'll tell you right now.
That's the Dolphins' schedule.
They get Carolina next week.
Dolphins have the Panthers next week.
The Jets are at Houston.
Ooh, that would be a really nice game to start Elijah Moran.
There is a caveat, though, and he's going to be at worst a flex play.
But when Zach Wilson comes back at quarterback, I think that there will be some trouble in terms of quality of target.
And Flacco just Joe Flacco doesn't care at this point in his career, and he's going to keep doing what he's always been doing.
And that's chucking the rock downfield. That worked out great for Elijah Moore. And Flacco just Joe Flacco doesn't care at this point in his career, and he's going to keep doing what he's always been doing.
And that's chucking the rock downfield.
That worked out great for Elijah Moore.
Worked out great for more last week from Flacco.
Certainly worked out again in week 11. I think if you've got more or if you're planning on picking up more, you're hoping for Joe Flacco to start in week 12.
Yeah.
As silly as that sounds.
Well, it's look at the last four games that the Jets have played
and what their quarterbacks have done.
414 yards and three touchdowns, 398 and four touchdowns,
296 and one against Buffalo, and 278 and two against the Dolphins.
Some of it's obviously garbage time, but they actually are producing
enough passing yards and touchdowns to be good for fantasy wide receivers. Dave,
who's the biggest loser in week 11? The biggest loser in week 11,
I think it's got to be, there's a lot of losers. Let's go with Jeff Wilson, who started off week
one or week 11 as the lead guy for the 49ers was wide open for a touchdown catch from Jimmy Garoppolo
Garoppolo missed him we really could have used that one and then by the end of the game Trey
Sermon was taking on a pretty sizable role in in the offense in fact they split snaps evenly
in the second half against Jacksonville so and, there was a blowout win for San Francisco. So maybe a little bit of that had to come into play.
But I wonder if Wilson came into this game.
Yeah, no problem.
You're our guy.
And then by the end of it, Kyle Shannon was like, well, maybe there isn't a guy and we
really need Elijah Mitchell back from his finger injury.
Right.
And I didn't really consider Wilson to be a loser.
If you had told me that he was going to get 19 carries,
I would have started him.
58 total yards. 20 touches, 58 total yards.
Obviously, he was disappointed, but I would have
started him for sure. And like you said, he
was open. He should have caught
a touchdown.
He didn't do anything wrong. It was Garoppolo. The reason why I don't
think he's a loser is because I
thought of him as a one-week guy anyway.
When Mitchell comes back, maybe Mitchell's a loser because De just thought of him as a one-week guy anyway. When Mitchell comes back,
maybe Mitchell's a loser because Debo Samuel
is the best running back they
have. He's stealing
production now.
Sermon, let's see. Sermon
had the last two carries there.
I think a lot of Sermon's
carries were garbage time.
In fact, yeah.
At least half.
They played 27 snaps in the second half.
Each between Wilson and Sermon
had 12 of the 27 snaps.
Okay, yeah. Wilson was playing it
when it was 27-3. When it was 30-3,
Trey Sermon came in.
Alright. Let's do
early waiver wire here. I think Sermon might have been
the two-minute drill running back as well.
Interesting. Well, nobody's taking elijah mitchell's job that's uh probably a good thing you know yeah so he's a
winner he's a winner there you go okay so the early waiver winner ties into the news and notes
elijah moore is going to be obviously a hot pickup michael gallup in shallower leagues, maybe said Wilson in deep leagues and Cam Newton,
72% rostered,
maybe a jets running back.
Who would you go with?
Tevin Coleman or Ty Johnson's Michael Carter left with the ankle injury and
they have Houston as we've established next week.
Yeah.
After the Carter injury,
Ty Johnson played 60% of the snaps,
including six of seven snaps on third slash fourth downs.
Tevin Coleman had the rest.
They did not have a snap 10 yards or closer to the goal line.
So we cannot say for sure which one might have an edge there.
You'd think it would be Coleman.
He's played in short.
Can I interrupt?
Before.
Because when Michael Carter was actually healthy in the game,
Coleman was in for,
so.
In short yardage. Yeah. Inside the five. Coleman was in. In short yardage?
Yeah, inside the five.
Carter got a carry inside the five. So that's probably your answer.
And then the next two plays, Coleman was in.
And I think Coleman was in on first and goal inside the 10
on a subsequent drive.
But not after Carter got hurt.
They didn't get down there after Carter got hurt.
Right.
So who would you pick up?
Carter or Ty Johnson? Or sorry, Coleman or Ty Johnson? I would pick up Carter if he's there.
Yeah. That sounds great. Unless he's out for the year and then what a waste of the pick. Johnson
is who I would go for, especially in PPR. All right. Boston Scott, maybe with Jordan Howard
leaving with an injury and they're obviously willing to use two backs. Well, although we have
to really get into the splits and how things played out there, it was all miles Sanders. and then he fumbled. And then it was all Jordan Howard, and then he left with
an injury. And then it was Sanders and Boston Scott after that. And I'll throw one more name
out there. And obviously, we have a whole show Tuesday for Waiver Wire. But Will Fuller, 37%.
Why not? We'll see. Will Fuller. Maybe. Just throwing it out there. Okay. News and notes.
How about Nick Westbrook?
Akina pick him up too.
Cause AJ Brown left with a hand injury.
Then he came back.
Then he left with a chest injury and he did not come back.
They are.
Cause Johnson left with an injury too.
So they got wrecked at wide receiver.
And maybe you shouldn't even bother picking up a Titan because they're at
new England.
And then they have a buy in their next two weeks.
Probably the right move.
Aaron Rodgers is really dealing with a bad toe injury.
He said it's worse than turf toe.
He was okay today.
He was QB1 with how many points did he score?
41?
39?
41?
So he thinks he's saying hopefully it'll get cured after the bye week.
They have the Rams and then a bye.
Ezekiel Elliott.
385 yards, four touchdowns.
He even ran for 21 yards.
That's 41 fantasy points.
Ezekiel Elliott left in the first quarter, but then he returned.
But CeeDee Lamb left just before halftime and did not return.
He has a concussion, and they have a Thursday game
against Las Vegas on Thanksgiving.
Okay, Miles Sanders.
So here's how it worked.
Sanders had seven carries.
Jordan Howard had one.
Sanders fumbled.
Then I believe Jordan Howard had eight carries,
and Sanders had one, and then Howard left with an injury.
So that was
crazy splits for the Eagles, but
Dave, they can run on it.
You know what? I'm going to save it for buy or sell.
I'm going to save it for buy or sell.
They can run on anyone though.
Darius Slay is in the concussion protocol.
They play next Sunday at the Giants.
Michael Carter left with the ankle.
Justin Fields left in the third quarter.
Do you think Andy Dalton is better
for the passing game than Justin Fields?
No.
No.
He beat the Blitz on the very, very late play,
the throw to Marquise Goodwin
that gave Chicago the lead
with about two minutes left in the game.
But I still feel like Justin Fields
is the better quarterback for Chicago.
Jamal Agnew left with a hip injury.
Indianapolis all-pro guard Quentin Nelson
had another injury, but it doesn't appear serious,
but he's been beat up all year.
Green Bay lost their left tackle Elton Jenkins
in the third quarter.
Hopefully David Bakhtiari comes back next week
against the Rams.
Yeah, that's still a huge injury for Green Bay
because Jenkins is capable of playing
anywhere on the offensive line.
Just a super versatile offensive lineman.
They don't have a lot of guys like that
in the National Football League.
So it's bad.
That's a bad one for Green Bay.
I don't know if anything's official,
but it may have been an ACL,
according to reports.
DeAndre Swift left with an injury,
but he seems okay.
I don't think that's a thing.
And Tyler Boyd left in the fourth quarter.
Needed an IV.
Right, he needed an IV.
So he's probably okay.
Hope so.
All right, a few things here before we get into more winners and losers and buy or sell.
Your trend of the day.
It is time to stop ignoring this.
The Arizona Cardinals against number one wide receivers.
I would say they are the best in football because of who they've faced.
I'm going to give you 11, well, 10 wide receivers.
One of them played them twice.
So 11 events of a wide receiver.
None of them got to 65 yards.
A.J. Brown, Julio Jones, Justin Jefferson, Adam Thielen, Robert Woods,
Cooper Cup, Brandon Cooks,
Deebo Samuel twice, DJ Moore, and now a horrible game from DK Metcalf. Put him on the list. And
they're always bad against the number two guy, Tyler Lockett, 115 yards. This is crazy. And I
believe this is Michael Pittman's matchup in the fantasy championship, by the way. He has a tough
schedule going forward. Arizona. And I looked in their PFF ratings, they've got
two cornerbacks that are rated pretty highly.
They got Murphy and Alford, I believe.
Does that sound right?
Yeah. Murphy,
I believe, might be a little
bit more of a slot contributor than an
outside guy, but they've used him in and
out. Okay, but they're doing it.
They're doing it consistently, and I don't know.
Metcalf has played six games
with Russell Wilson, where he has started
and finished, Wilson.
And Metcalf has more than 65 yards
once. So, maybe it
wasn't all Arizona, but every time
they face a number one wide receiver,
and they are doing really well. Some of them score,
but they have been
terrific against these elite, elite wide
receivers. Been very impressive.
Here's your step.
Remaining schedule after the buying week 12,
they've got Chicago,
the Rams,
Detroit,
Indianapolis,
and then Dallas in week 17.
I don't know if you care about Seattle in week 18.
Oh,
it's Dallas in week 17.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's going to be by then lamb should be fine.
And Mark Cooper should be back.
That'll be a big challenge for them.
I think the Rams in Week 14 will be an interesting challenge for them,
although apparently once this year already they've done a nice job.
They did. It was one of Cupp's worst games.
But Pittman, I think, you know, I'd be a little nervous about him
against that man, and that's Week 16 for Pittman.
Well, what about the rest of the schedule for Pittman?
Because after this tough game against Buffalo, it's Tampa
Bay. Then at Houston's easy.
Then he's got a bye in week 14. That's
when you're making your last push to the playoffs
in most leagues. Patriots in week 15.
Cardinals in week 16.
And then Las Vegas in week 17.
So he might not be great other
than the Houston game until
week 17, your championship game. That's
the championship game. Yeah. His home against championship game. That's the championship game.
Yeah.
Is a home against Las Vegas.
That should be pretty good.
It should be,
but they've actually been top 10 against receivers too,
but I had highlighted Michael Pittman as a guy who had a very tough
playoff schedule.
And again,
I think Arizona goes out,
stops DK Metcalf the way they did.
Now Metcalf came close.
I saw all the plays,
right?
He had a touchdown that he couldn't hang on to, a couple of deep balls that he couldn't grab,
but he was covered.
I mean, he did a good job.
All right.
Stat line of the day, Dave.
This is wild.
11 catches on 11 targets for Rondell Moore for 51 yards.
That's just weird.
That's just weird.
I wonder if that's a byproduct of not having an amazing run game until late
in the,
in the game.
I mean,
yeah.
Or Arizona.
Maybe it's Connor kind of got off to a slow start by the end.
He was fine.
Didn't have a great rushing average,
found the end zone,
did good work in the passing game.
But I wonder if that was their change up.
44 pass attempts for Colt McCoy. And your moment of the weekend.
I want to thank Chris Towers
for pointing this one out to me.
If you haven't seen it,
please check it out.
The fan in the first row
throwing up on the court
at the Jazz Kings game
over the weekend.
It was amazing.
And some of the quotes
associated with this event
were just incredible.
Wasn't the mascot helping clean up?
I don't know.
But Quinn Snyder, the coach of the Jazz, said,
he was razzing me through the whole game.
Well, at least through the first three quarters.
And then he puked.
It was just, he was just throwing up.
It was like continuously.
Jordan Clarkson.
This is so funny. Anyway, look it up. It was like continuously. Jordan Clarkson. This is so funny. Anyway,
look it up. Let's do buy or
sell. Look up a guy who
is puking.
Who can't miss that? It's
so funny, dude. All right, buy or sell.
I'm going to give you
three and one. Josh
Allen fantasy managers are in trouble.
Russell Wilson fantasy managers are in trouble. Patrick Mah Allen fantasy managers are in trouble. Russell Wilson fantasy managers are in trouble.
Patrick Mahomes fantasy managers are in trouble.
Are you buying any of it?
I'm not buying it with Mahomes.
I'm not buying it with Allen.
I am buying it with Russell Wilson.
And Russ wasn't somebody, he wasn't in my top 10 this week anyway.
He was in my top 12.
There were definitely some guys I had ranked behind Russ that I wish I hadn't.
Kirk Cousins being probably
the most egregious of them all.
But he's missing guys.
You talked about how DK had a couple
of plays that should have gone his way.
He just couldn't get the ball.
Couldn't catch it.
No way to get around that.
Couldn't catch it. I wish he get around that. Couldn't catch it.
I wish he could.
And I think that Russ will eventually,
I think he'll eventually get better
as his finger gets better,
but I'm not ready to say,
don't worry about it.
He's fine.
You're going to need,
you're going to need another quarterback
if you've got Russ.
Right.
For Allen and Mahomes,
I do think they're seeing the same type of problem. And that is they're not really connecting on deep balls very often. I know Allen did good throws. It was under a lot of pressure.
But his longest pass play, he had some 37 yards to Pringle,
24 yards to Kelsey, 23 yards to Hill,
but still didn't have a big home run play.
However, he is coming off a game where he threw for 400-something. What did he throw for? Ridiculous amount.
He was amazing last week.
A 406 yards, five touchdowns.
Sorry.
But yeah, again, it was back to being a bad game for Mahomes.
Now that's three out of four total,
four out of five total duds.
And Allen, it's kind of a concerning trend.
I mean, he was bad at Jacksonville.
He really struggled for a while against Miami a few weeks ago.
And he scored 19 fantasy points against the Colts.
So still nothing for you?
Still totally fine with them?
Still totally fine with Allen and Mahomes.
All right.
Buy or sell, you can confidently start
Jalen Hurts, Miles Sanders, Devontae Freeman,
and Dallas Goddard every week.
Give me the names one more time.
Yeah, it's Jalen hertz miles sanders
yeah davante smith and dallas goddard you said davante freeman before oh crap
which i mean we can throw them in here too you know they all play for teams that are you know
bird mascots well the eagles play for the for the new ravens the eagles are the ravens now
okay well they've got a running quarterback so maybe that's why you're saying that hurts as a for the new Ravens. The Eagles are the Ravens now. Okay.
Well, they've got a running quarterback,
so maybe that's why you're saying that.
Hurts is a starter.
Miles Sanders is a low-end starter. Wait, Goddard is a starter.
Now you did it.
Goddard is a starter.
Devontae Smith,
like a borderline number two,
number three wide receiver.
Yeah.
Hurts, Sanders?
I said Hurts and Sanders.
Hurts is a starter.
Oh, I thought you said Ertz.
I'm sorry.
No, Hurts.
Okay, what about Goddard?
Hurts, Hurts.
What about Goddard?
He's a starting tight end as well.
Remember, this is the team that's got the schedule
that we love down the stretch.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
Why I call them the Ravens.
That's the Washington. Why I call them the Ravens.
Why I call them the Ravens,
and it's even more so now, is that
they run...
They have a rushing quarterback.
They also run the read option stuff.
They run on everyone. It was one
thing for them to run all over Denver
and the Chargers.
It's another thing for them to run on the best defense. It would be best run defense in football coming into the game. They had played
70 games, the saints, and they had given up a hundred yards rushing to two players in the last
70 games. I saw this on ESPN, just to give a credit. Those two players were last year, Jalen
Hertz and Miles Sanders.
So, and it, you know, it almost happened again today.
They didn't quite get there, but they had great rushing games against them.
But yeah, I mean, so they're a low volume offense in terms of passing.
They are using multiple backs.
It's another thing that the Ravens did.
Dobbins and Ingram, Dobbins and Edwards, whatever it was last year.
And all of their passes go to two players.
And it's great.
Like this was a game with Devante Smith, where you,
where you see the downside because hurts only through 23 or 24 passes.
Smith did very well,
but he didn't score and didn't have that great of a game.
You know,
it's kind of like Marquis.
I keep making this analogy.
He's Marquis Brown and Goddard is a worse version of
Andrews, and Hurts is a worse version of Jackson.
But it just, this week
really solidified it
because they stuck with a
two-back system, and they
did it against the best run defense in football.
So I have no doubt they're going to be
really good at running the football rest
of season, and they're going to be a low volume pass offense.
And,
and I think you had questions about in a non P.
Oh,
that's the other thing,
Dave,
when you have this low volume pass offense,
you get zero catches from mile Sanders and Jordan Howard.
So you're going to have tough decisions in full PPR leagues about Sanders.
The same way you did about Dobbins last year,
I think,
you know?
Yep.
It's a great comparison.
Yeah. Okay. Well, I think we'll play it week by week, you know, nextbins last year, I think. You know? Yep. It's a great comparison. Yeah.
Okay. Well, I think we'll play it week by week.
You know, next week against the Giants, yeah, I think
you're going to confidently start them.
I think it's going to be a pretty big
no-brainer for a lot of these guys.
All right. Let's get a buy ourself from a
listener from Johnny Krenz.
Clyde Edward Ziller will be
an RB1 rest of season.
I think he's got a shot to be an RB2 for sure with some RB1 weeks mixed in
because he's also got a really nice schedule
they don't play next week
Denver in week 13
Las Vegas after that
the Chargers after that
Steelers after that
Bengals after that
so really there's one game that you look at
and you go alright that's a trouble game.
And that's the Pittsburgh game.
But even then,
this is what's been part of the missing element of the chiefs offense is
being able to have a running back that they can confidently trust.
And I think they trusted Clyde Edwards,
he layer quite a bit.
They let them run in short yardage.
The touchdown was a cool play.
And,
and I think that Edwards, he layer can absolutely help unlock things for Kansas city as they try and
force their opponents,
stop playing so much past defense against them.
So much of that cover to scheme that's been flummoxing Patrick Mahomes.
There's a great comment we have in the chat.
Imagine if Taylor were drafted by the Chiefs instead
of Clyde Edwards. Oh my goodness.
Yeah, that would not be fair.
That is such a miss. And Swift
went ahead of Taylor too, right?
Was it Swift ahead of Taylor?
They were two picks apart, right? I believe so.
Yeah, Clyde was first there in their year.
He was the last pick of the first round. I think
Swift did go ahead of Taylor. Don't quote me on that.
They were all very, very close.
Late first, early second round picks.
Clyde Edwards either had 12 carries and two catches.
It was very good.
Calling him an RB1 is a stretch.
He's not a top 12 guy, I don't think.
That schedule gives him a chance, though.
Yeah, but he has a bye, so that hurts.
But you're right.ver las vegas chargers
that is really good just uh yeah is he going to get the catches he's going to get the goal line
work he did get the goal line work as they mentioned today swift did go ahead of jonathan
taylor um one more buyer sell we should never never doubt terry mclaurin dj moore and tyler
lockett mclaurin with 103 yards and a touchdown.
DJ Moore, 50 yards and a touchdown.
Tyler Lockett, 115 yards.
We should never doubt McLaurin, Moore, or Lockett.
You can doubt them if you want to,
but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't start them.
I think that they're all kind of in that same boat
of high upside wide receivers.
And maybe more upside for McLaurin and Lockett
than there is for
DJ Moore. It was great that he had the early touchdown. I think he had
20 or 30 yards on the first drive for Carolina. And then after that, he really
did not get much going on after. So I think
that there's going to be a lot of fluctuations between all three of these
guys, but the ceiling is going to be higher for Lockett and especially for McLaurin.
So how would you rank them rest of season?
I would put McLaurin first.
I think I'd probably put Lockett second
and DJ Moore third.
Does it bother you that McLaurin has the Eagles
and potentially Darius Slay?
I don't know.
I feel like Slay is going to...
I don't know.
Potentially Darius Slay in both week 15 and 17,
twice in the playoffs.
We've seen McLaurin play well against other great corners.
I'm not going to be afraid of starting him against Philadelphia,
and I'm pretty sure Taylor Heineke won't be afraid to throw at him either.
I did.
Not at him.
I was worried about him getting Stephon Gilmore.
I don't know that he did in this game.
Well, Gilmore had been playing a full allotment of snaps anyway.
It would have been a pretty significant change for Carolina
for them to do such a thing.
Okay.
Let's get to Dave's winners and losers.
By the way, somebody asked, where's Heath?
I probably should have said this earlier.
Heath's sick.
He's under the weather today, unfortunately.
So, no Heath.
So, I've got some listeners.
I hope he's doing better, man. We missed him all day today.
We did. We did miss him.
You think you missed him.
I had to do the five-minute show by myself
today, and in the middle
of it, the Sesame Street
video that I gave to my son
ended and did not
autoplay, so he starts flipping out. I'm live.
I had to tell the audience like the live, you could see the video. It's on youtube.com slash fantasy football. And I'm like, I'll be right back. And I muted my bike and I had to, it took
like 20 seconds off. I was very embarrassed, but then I was like, yeah, whatever, who cares?
But I missed Heath quite a bit. So yeah, Heath, get your ass back here. Okay, winners and losers.
You had Clyde Eberziler.
We talked about him.
You also have Devontae Freeman, and you have Elijah Moore.
So we've talked about your two-thirds of your list here.
Two-thirds of the winners are already in the books.
Devontae Freeman was started in 41% of leagues.
He came through with 80 total yards, six catches, and a touchdown,
a late one, to
win the game. What does this mean
going forward for Devontae Freeman?
Well, that's a great thing. The fact that
he played, he was the only running back that
played a snap for Baltimore
inside of 10 yards. They only had two snaps,
10 yards and closer.
On one of them, apparently there were no running
backs. That's according to the information that
I got from True Media Sports.
57% of the snaps compared to Latavius with 38%.
Latavius played one more snap on third and fourth downs
than Devontae Freeman did.
But I'm willing to overlook that just because of the catches
that Freeman had in the game.
He certainly stood out as the best Ravens running back.
Looked the part, too.
How much confidence do you have in Devontae Freeman?
Would you rather have Devontae Freeman or, I'll just say it,
Clyde Edwards-Elair rest of season?
I think I'd rather have Edwards-Elair.
I don't think that that's going to shock anybody.
Right.
But I do think Freeman's in that top 20-ish conversation at running back.
Would you rather have Miles Sanders or Devante Freeman?
I think I might rather have Freeman.
He's getting catches, you know?
It shouldn't be a completely different look.
Not every week.
It's not an every week thing.
But I think as the season marches on, he'll still be,
as long as he stays healthy,
man,
he's,
he looks like he has looked like the best back in Baltimore really since
Tyson Williams melted down.
Right.
And I think he'll keep,
I think he'll keep a majority until further notice.
Okay.
And we're going to take a quick break here.
When we come back,
we'll see how many of Dave's losers we've already covered.
And then we'll get into all of the games with some buy or sell.
We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today.
Welcome back. Here are your
Week 11 losers.
Jeff Wilson, we talked about him.
Deontay Foreman,
only eight touches. I mean, you could just say the
Titans were just awful in this game, losing
it home to the Texans. This was such a
great day for the Kansas City Chiefs
as they, you know,
continue to improve
and the Bills lose
and the Titans lose.
And there's, you know,
obviously they're going to want
some home field advantage.
So great day for them.
They'd love to have it.
Deontay Foreman
played 18% of the snaps.
Believe it or not,
that was third best
among Tennessee Titans
running backs. I believe it. We liked him. I believe it. The best. third best among tennessee titans running back i
believe you liked him i believe the best i know you do oh we weren't don't roll it don't roll
hilliard wound up as the guy that played the most at running back for tennessee i think it was a
byproduct of them playing from behind and just falling behind to the texans so early on 63
percent of the snaps had a bunch of targets in the game. But Adrian Peterson, one more percentage point higher than Deontay Foreman.
Kind of frustrating to see that.
Yeah, it is.
And frustrating that they just had such a bad game script.
And that, I think, is kind of what I was getting to at the top of the show
with how unpredictable this season has been.
You go into a week and you have to for a lot of players
you have to do your best to predict game script and this is just not a good year for that so with
all these crazy for some players the thing is is that we can predict we can predict what a positive
game script would mean for a certain player like we can predict predict that Antonio Gibson, if things go right, here's what you can expect.
And if things go wrong, here's what you could expect.
And so last week we, we, we knew, we, you know,
what you can expect from Gibson when things go right for Washington,
but nobody thought that things were going to go right for him.
This week we were a little bit more split on it.
I know that Jamie and I don't know if Heath was as well,
but I don't think they expected
Washington to stay competitive with Carolina. I thought there was a chance to do so. Of course.
I had Gibson ranked as the number two running back. So he had that opportunity and then he
couldn't do anything with it. So that, and that's the other part of it. That's just so nuts is that
even when the game script is positive for a player, it doesn't mean that he's going to go off and have a monster game.
It just means he's going to get a lot of touches
and you got to hope he cashes in on those touches.
All right.
Who's your third loser?
You didn't even give it to me.
You said it was going to be TBD.
I told you to surprise me.
Your third loser.
Yeah.
There are four names that I could pick from.
And I thought I texted you the four names,
but T Higgins is on that list.
Hunter Renfro is on that list. t higgins is on that list hunter renfro is on that list cole beasley is on that list uh there's a manual standards on there
i'm gonna pick one buddy oh you want to see who it was all right i'll tell you who it was
yeah you texted me now i'm looking pitman renfro higgins beasley pitman was the fourth name
yeah we already talked about him renfro t higg, T. Higgins, Cole Beasley.
I think there's kind of an obvious case for each of them.
Anybody that looks at the box score for each player will know,
all right, they had a pretty bad week.
Higgins was the one that was most disappointing.
I really expected him to have a large role for Cincinnati's passing game.
It was a popular pick.
He ended up being a very trendy DFS pick.
His price tag was
low. And Boyd was
the one who was pretty involved early on.
And then he left with
getting the IV. And Jamar Chase ended
up scoring the only touchdown for the Bengals.
Passing touchdown for the Bengals.
Yeah, and Chase didn't have a very good
game. And I wonder if people just
underestimate the Raiders, but
they came into the game fifth best against wide receivers. And that was after wonder if people just underestimate the Raiders, but they came into the game fifth
best against wide receivers. And that was after giving up three touchdowns to chiefs wide receivers,
but they've done a pretty good job. So I don't know. I don't really know what to say about T
Higgins. He has really been a big mystery for me. Uh, you know, at the beginning of the year,
he scored a touchdown in each of the first two games. He was getting all of the red zone targets.
They were barely throwing.
They've changed a lot as an offense.
Uh, but sure.
You know, and the last few weeks have been really encouraging.
So I think Dave, I'm probably just going to shrug it off and kind of approach him as a
must start in three receiver leagues.
And a guy that I probably would sit in a two receiver league if I had a flex
that I liked a lot better. Sure. And if there's a matchup that you find him in where competitive
catches could be difficult, that's been something that he struggled with. Then maybe you stay away
from him. Pittsburgh could be one of those matchups next week. Let's go to the games.
All right. We'll run through them and give you some buys and sells and stuff like
that.
Although I'm not really,
you know,
I'm not Heath on this.
I don't have to believe it or not,
but Miami 24.
Usually Heath doesn't have to either until he actually,
you know,
you call up a game.
Oh yeah.
All right.
So we'll do it like that.
Miami 24 and the jets 17,
believe it or not.
Miles Gaskin
is a solid start
rest of season.
You got to love that
he had a season high
percentage in snaps.
The Dolphins benched,
they made Savan Ahmed inactive
and they promoted Duke Johnson
and gave Dukeson an opportunity to
to play a little bit i think he played nine percent of the snaps it was really really low
and i think they've realized that gaskin is the best bet that they have and he's going to be
another one of those running backs where most weeks you'll feel okay starting him on the basis
of well he should get 15 touches but what he does with those touches really will probably vary more on the matchup than
anything else.
This week was an example of that.
Next week, they play the Panthers.
We've already established that.
I think that that'll be a little bit tougher for Myles Gaskin, but you'll probably look
at him and say, well, he's 15 touches.
He's in that low end number two running back range.
I think the only thing that could really derail him, at least from just being start worthy, you know, obviously he's not a great player and he's not that low end number two running back range. I think the only thing that could really derail him,
at least from just being start worthy,
you know,
obviously he's not a great player and he's not tearing it up.
It would be Malcolm Brown coming back and,
you know,
reassuming the valuable touches,
the passing,
the pass protect.
They really could.
So I don't know if you'd be,
if you could still trade them,
if you haven't reached your trade deadline,
is this the time to trade miles Gaskin believe it or not cory davis is droppable oh i was asking you if
this is the time to trade gaskin i was i was not oh i thought you were just being rhetorical yeah
i could be i i don't i don't think the market for miles gaskin will be very robust i don't think
people really want to give up a whole
lot for gaskin and trade even though the workload's good and you know what maybe if you can acquire him
really cheaply if he's somebody's fourth best running back maybe you should go ahead and do
something like that and i think a lot of people would be happy to trade for him on the low end
especially if they need a running back to get them through the rest of the season
somebody who's going to get 15 touches.
All right.
I would drop.
I believe it that Corey Davis is droppable.
I want to stick with the dolphins though,
because we already talked a lot about Elijah Moore and we know that Michael
Carter is injured right now.
Hopefully he'll be okay for next week.
You know,
anything to say about Tua,
a little bit of a disappointing game,
only 20 fantasy points.
He got lucky that Mac Hollins broke free for just a wide open blowing coverage, big play
touchdown.
27 of 33?
That's terrific. I don't know.
I don't know how he only finished with 20 points in this game.
Waddle had
the rushing touchdown early on.
I don't know how many drives
they got inside the 10.
They stagnated after a good start.
Yeah, that's definitely true.
The interception that he had
was pretty bad too.
So would you rather have Waddle
or T. Higgins rest of the season?
I think I'd lean Waddle,
especially in PPR.
Would you rather have Gasicki or Hawkinsonins rest of season? I think I'd lean Waddle, especially in PPR. Would you rather have Gusecki or Hawkinson rest of season?
I think I'd
rather have Gusecki. Alright, let's go
to our next game. Cleveland
13 and Detroit
10.
What a great one.
Parker Mayfield.
He's so injured. Yeah, it's sad.
Okay, Dave. Buy or sell Jarvis Landry is droppable.
Four catches on eight targets, 26 yards,
and now five straight games with nine or fewer PPR fantasy points.
He is 86% rostered.
Buy or sell.
Forget is droppable.
It is time to drop Jarvis Landry.
He's definitely droppable.
You don't have to drop him.
If you have the chance to get Elijah Moore and he's somebody on your bench, yes, you can drop Jarvis Landry. He's definitely droppable. You don't have to drop him.
You know, if, if you have the chance to get Elijah more and he's somebody on your bench,
yes, you can drop Jarvis Landry.
But if you use them this week, thank goodness for the rushing touchdown that he had.
Thank goodness for that goofy play where he was under center and he just ran it in, in the red zone.
That's how they draw them up.
I I'm.
If this is as good as he's going to be in a matchup against the lions,
then I don't know if there's going to be another matchup on the board that
I'll say,
okay,
I'll start Jarvis Landry confidently as a number three wide receiver as a
bi-week replacement receiver.
He's fine,
but we can find players like that off the waiver wire pretty much every
week.
Man.
Deandre Swift is having such a weird year,
isn't he?
He always finds, I mean, he's a big, he's had isn't he? He always finds a way to be good.
He's had a pretty productive year.
I'm not going to complain about it.
No, it's time to just...
I hope people aren't still asking.
His start percentage was 93%.
So you know what to do.
You start him.
He's just been tremendous.
Would you rather have DeAndre Swift...
It's weird that he has 136 rushing yards
and zero receiving yards on three catches.
I know.
Would you rather have DeAndre Swift or Ezekiel Elliott,
who's really making me lose a little bit of confidence these days?
Who would you rather have rest of season?
I'd rather have Swift.
Oh, yeah.
You know who I'd like to see?
I'd really like to see Tony Pollard just take over.
Yeah, I know it's not going to happen, but I want to see what he can do
because Zeke looked slow to me out there.
He got hurt early in the game,
and he came back,
so that's part of it.
Yeah, I don't know if it's fair to judge him on that,
but you've talked about his explosiveness
for months now.
Yeah.
And his lack of it.
And Pollard's got all of it.
So there's going to be a split there in Dallas between those two.
Great note from Ben Schrager.
So we do hashtag AskFFT on Twitter on Saturday and Saturday night
and on Sunday morning before the games start.
It's your key to getting a question answered.
It is. It certainly is.
We had 125 hashtag AskFFT questions that included DeAndre Swift today.
And I don't think they were like,
I'm starting Swift.
Hashtag ask FFT.
Here are my other options.
People still ask questions about Swift.
Interesting.
Don't.
Yeah, you don't have to anymore.
Anything else from this game?
Please say no.
Hawkinson is still okay as a starter in ppr league that's a good one hey i was
dave i was thrilled to get six for 51 from tj hockinson i felt like i won the lottery
it was 11 ppr i was like yes well i mean anything's better than last week but what you didn't want to
see was four targets three catches 28 yards you didn't want to see something like that.
You wanted to see him a little bit more involved.
But this offense is DeAndre Swift,
Hawkinson if you need him, everything else,
everyone else, hard pass.
Full disclosure, because I would not have,
I'm not trying to embarrass you,
because if you had asked me this,
I would not have remembered.
Obviously, I wrote it down.
I saw it.
I'd forgot.
Do you know how many yards Tim Boyle passed for today?
Yes. How many? I literally just looked down
at my computer. 77 yards.
And Hawkinson had 51. 51. So that is
a miracle. Good job, TJ Hawkinson.
Colts 41
bills 15. We have a listener
buyer sell here from Noah T
buyer sell. Michael Pittman
is a high end wide receiver
three at best, which
technically means, you know,
around 25th overall Michael
Pittman high end wide receiver
three at best. You should, if
he's a high end number three
receiver, that means he's going high-end number three receiver,
that means he's going to be ranked between 25th and 30th most weeks.
And I would imagine with the schedule that they have left,
you're going to see him ranked right around that area.
Part one of the problem is the schedule.
Part two of the problem is that the Colts run game is amazing right now.
And part three is that every game that T Y Hilton's played in Michael
Pittman's been a dud.
And so how does,
how does that get?
I thought he had a,
how does he overcome all three of those things?
I don't see how he does.
I thought he had the 15 target game in one of the games with Hilton.
Did Hilton leave early in that game?
Well,
Hilton is not,
I don't know.
Do you have a snap share from this game?
Cause he hasn't played.
He plays about 50% of the snaps most weeks anyway, since he is not, I don't know, do you have a snap share from this game? Because he hasn't played, he plays about 50%
of the snaps most weeks anyway
since he's been, you know, back.
So it was the Tennessee game, Hilton
played about 50%, something like that
and I think that was the game that Pittman
10 for 86
on 15 targets, right? Yep,
two touchdowns too. Look, you shouldn't
Hilton was in that game? Yes.
You shouldn't, Hilton played 44 that game? Yes. You shouldn't.
Hilton played 44% of the snaps in that game.
Five targets, two catches for T.Y. And he played 53% of the snaps today.
So I don't look at any game that he quote-unquote left early
because he's barely one game with more than 53% of the snaps
and was 61% for Hilton.
I just think in general.
So that hurdle doesn't seem to be that big of a deal.
I just think in general. Right. doesn't seem to be that big of a deal. I just think in general, right.
But, you know, philosophy for me, if a guy has a bad game against the best defense guarding number one receivers, and maybe it's Arizona, seriously, but so far it has been the Bills.
And his quarterback just threw 20 times for 106 yards.
I don't look at that.
Even Tim Boyle was like,
hey, that's close.
I don't even look at that
as a Michael Pittman failure.
I just, it was almost impossible
for him to succeed in this game
against that team
when they were blowing them out
and didn't need to throw.
So this is the low point for Pittman.
It wasn't really his fault.
How many games left on Indianapolis' schedule
do you see Carson Wentz having 250 yards and two touchdowns?
Because the exact same issues that are plaguing Pittman
are plaguing Carson Wentz.
They're plaguing Zach Paschal.
They're plaguing Moe Alley-Cox.
It could be next week against Tampa Bay, though.
Maybe.
Okay, let's go to... I mean, they're not going to be able to run the ball against Tampa Bay.
They're going to try.
Everybody was worried about Jonathan Taylor this week.
I wasn't, but everybody else was.
If I had done winners and losers today,
if I had given you three losers,
it would have been Zach Moss and Zach Moss.
I'm completely done trusting him.
Everyone is. he's 16 i wonder if brita i wonder if brita comes into play off the waiver wire this week because we've
started to see him get an increase in playing time and i know i don't want to necessarily trust
the bills running back if i don't have to but he looks like the best of the three right now
he might be he's giving a little bit of juice here i can't see a scenario where you're comfortable starting it but you might need someone breed is
only six percent rostered he had five carries and one catch he six touches in two straight games so
it's not like people are breaking the doors down here right but it's a snapshot for that coaching
staff to look at and they know what they've got in singletary i'm not even sure if they trust
singletary but yeah they know what they've got in him and they know what they've gotten Singletary. I'm not even sure if they trust Singletary, but they know what they've gotten him and they know what they've gotten
Moss.
Ultimately it might end up being a three headed monster.
And this is a team that just does not like to run the football to begin
with.
It's one of those scary guys.
Total 11 carries.
Not a monster.
I'd be like,
yeah.
Yeah.
Well,
Zach Moss has 25,
24,
27 and five total yards in his last three games.
Okay.
What are you doing with Beasley?
90% rostered and Emmanuel Sanders,
95% rostered.
They're droppable.
And think about it.
If you,
if you consider what the weather is going to turn into in Buffalo,
down the stretch,
there could be some real ugly games with heavy wind that will make
Sanders,
especially just a no-go Sanders was,
he entered this week with one of the highest average depths of target in the
league and the second lowest yards after catch per reception average in the
league,
which means he's getting targeted deep a lot when he does catch the football
on those deep targets.
He doesn't get anything but the yardage that Josh Allen throws for.
And I don't know if he's necessarily a guy that josh allen's going to routinely throw deep for digs is kind of replacing him two games ago he did this week he didn't but
digs was still awesome he's still the number one guy there i thought beasley would have a little
bit more of a role with the run game potentially struggling well the run game he's hurt kind of
struggled you know beasley's hurt.
He did play about 50% of the snap,
a little more than that.
Emmanuel Sanders and Stefan Diggs
both played 44 snaps,
both ran 33 to 34 routes,
but I think it makes sense, David.
They're not throwing the ball well downfield,
and Emmanuel Sanders is having horrible games.
Yeah.
Knox had a good game.
Ten targets for him to lead the bills.
Six for 80.
Everybody will take those numbers from a fantasy tight end.
This would be a sell for me if I could.
On Knox?
Sure.
Yeah.
Because he's got two games against New England left.
And this is a season high for him.
And I just,
in targets anyway,
it's 10.
And it's his second game with more
than five you know i i just i don't view dawson knox as one of the must start tight ends i mean
i think he's a must roster but if there are who's okay let's go through who are the must start tight
ends take me through it well there's that kel guy, that Kittle guy, Darren Waller.
Yeah, come on. Let's go.
Obviously, those guys are.
Mark Andrews is a stud.
I think Kosicki and Goddard are quality start tight ends.
Kyle Pitts?
Kyle Pitts?
Pitts is still a start-worthy tight end.
And then you've got guys like Hawkinson.
You've got guys like Dalton Schultz.
Who's slipping.
Maybe Gronk.
Schultz is okay as long as the other receivers are hurting Dallas.
Gronk is a startable tight end.
That's a good call.
I think that's it, though.
I think Noah Fant is still going to be viewed as a start-worthy tight end.
Startable and start-worthy, that's one thing.
I'm talking about I don't need a second tight end.
I don't even need to think about a second tight end.
I think you got six or seven, right?
Yeah, Kelsey.
You got Kelsey.
Kelsey, Kittle, Andrews, Waller, Gasicki, Goddard, Pitts, in some order.
That's where I draw the line.
I don't put Knox in there.
Neither do you.
So if somebody does, and based on
all the comments that we've seen this year, I think
there are plenty of people that do.
I think you try to take advantage of that.
I just don't think you're going to
be able to get much in trade for Dawson Knox.
You can try, but I bet
he's a piece of a package that you
use to trade up for
another player.
Baltimore 16 and Chicago 13.
All right.
Tyler Huntley's post-game interview
was the most heartwarming thing.
Did you see it by any chance on the field?
No.
He was so happy.
He didn't stop smiling the entire time.
He just looked like a kid on Christmas
or a kid on Thanksgiving
who's about to eat ham
since it's better than turkey.
But he was so overjoyed
and it was really a pleasure to watch.
Anyway, in this game,
all right, Rashad Bateman,
hold him, he's 79% rostered.
Would you drop him for Elijah Moore?
I would drop him for Moore,
but I would prefer to hold Bateman
in just about every other case.
I'd like to see
him play again with Lamar Jackson. What do you think about Darnell Mooney rest of season? He
is 80% rostered. Who would you rather have Mooney or Moore? Look at that smile. That was the entire
interview. He was so happy. He was a happy camper, man. He led a game-winning drive. What do you
expect? I'm happy for him. It was really great to watch. It really was. All right, so give me your thoughts on Mooney versus Moore.
I think I'd prefer Mooney to Moore.
I think, and I don't, you want to talk about getting a bunch of targets
like you did with Dawson Knox.
There's no way Darnell Mooney's going to have another game with 16 targets
like he did this week.
And he only had five catches.
That's brutal.
That's one that's worth going back and looking over,
how much of that is on Mooney, how much of that is on his quarterbacks.
I would assume that Allen Robinson will be back at some point.
I will assume that Marquise Goodwin's target volume will go down
and that Cole Kometz will pop back up just a little bit more.
I'm still hopeful that if Fields is okay, I'll take Mooney.
Let's preface it that way. If Fields is okay, I'll take Mooney. Let's, let's, let's preface it that way.
Fields is okay.
I'll take Mooney over more.
If it's Andy Dalton rest of season,
I'll take more over Mooney.
I don't know that I feel that way though,
because I really don't think that fields is going to be a better passer than,
than nobody is a downfield passer.
I guess Dalton was today.
And it was literally the first time this year that,
I mean, not that he's had a lot of chances since weeks one and two,
and I think a part of three,
but he really,
you know,
was very,
very careful with the football when he was starting.
Did you see that throw by Ben Roethlisberger to chase Claypool?
Did not.
If anybody started chase Claypool and loses by six points,
Hey,
that was a walk-in touchdown.
It's such a bad run.
So bad.
All right.
Booney, by the way, had 121 yards and a touchdown,
but he had a 60-yard catch and run on a screen.
Right.
Very fluky.
Yeah.
Okay.
Montgomery.
I was a little concerned about Montgomery coming in,
and I lost a little bit of that concern
when Lamar Jackson was ruled out
because I thought it would be a better game script.
But yeah, look, I don't think we can completely ignore
that he's been pretty disappointing
in, I would say, at least half his games.
He's been tantalizing with 200-yard games,
but he's got almost no role in the passing
game. I feel like that would change if...
That would be something that would change if Dalton were the
quarterback set of fields.
Where are we at on David Montgomery?
Would you rather have him or
Clyde Edwards-Elair and Schrager pointing out
Montgomery played 56 of 59
snaps? I argued with Towers about this this
morning. You know what? I don't care anymore. He's got to produce. Like I know he's on the field all the time.
I don't care about snap count. Not that they're not valuable, but I care about production. It's
week 11. It's week 11. I care about production for God's sake. He's not giving it to me, Dave.
So who are you going to start ahead of him? You look at your other running back options.
If one of those options is Clyde Edwards-Hilaire,
I would argue that there's a chance that Montgomery from game to game
is going to get more touches than Clyde.
I'd rather have Montgomery.
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
I'll put it this way.
If a situation arises like a Jeff Wilson,
I'm going to go with the waiver wire guy,
like a Mark Ingram.
I'm going to put those types of opportunities
ahead of David Montgomery most weeks.
I'm just, you know,
unless the thing that would change it would be
Dalton's the quarterback and starts throwing to him,
giving him three catches a game or something like that
would be a big boost for him.
That would be great.
Yeah, but I think to me,
he's a must start in the sense that he's going to be in the top 20.
But realistically,
I think waiver wire guys could beat him out for me.
So he's not quite a true must start at this point.
Do you feel the same?
Okay,
great.
All right.
Minnesota 34,
Green Bay 31.
First of all,
Kirk Cousins got so damn lucky
on that game-winning drive.
He threw an interception right out of the gate
that got overturned,
and then he threw a ball on the sideline
that probably should have been an interception.
The quarterback is like, where's the ball?
Oh, it's right behind me.
It's in Adam Thielen's hands.
So great job, Kirk Cousins.
You got lucky.
Listener buy or sell.
Buy or sell from Robbie.
A.J. Dillon becomes the RB1 in Green Bay
when Aaron Jones comes back.
I can't buy it.
I think they'll genuinely mix, though.
I think that they'll be close to like a 60-40.
And it could be Dillon leading the way.
I'm not going to lie.
Dillon certainly has his appeal.
Rogers was throwing to him out of the backfield. Just putting that guy in space seems dangerous
for defenses to deal with. I like the talent.
I like the opportunity. I wish he had scored.
That would have been really awesome, but I still see a lot
of positive. I still
see a lot to like about Aaron Jones
when he does come back,
but I wouldn't be surprised if both guys
were in that 12-14 touch neighborhood
from game to game.
Did Dylan have an amazing game?
No, but he had almost 100...
Six catches for 44 yards is pretty cool.
He had almost 100 total yards.
He had six catches.
It's a great role.
It's very valuable, and he's a must-start.
Devontae Adams with a big game.
What do you think about MVS?
Ten targets for MVS.
Aaron Rodgers only threw 33 times,
and 10 of them to MVS, 123 yards and a touchdown,
four catches, tied for the second-most targets of his career.
He is 11% rostered.
Is this someone you'd be looking at?
Next week, they have the Rams.
Then they have a bye.
Doesn't this happen at least once a year with Valdez Scantling where he catches a deep ball
and he ends up having a great stat line and everybody goes to pick him up off the waiver
wire.
And then the very next week, it's four targets, three catches, 28 yards.
Right.
I can't buy into Valdez Scantling knowing how truly up and down he is.
Okay. Dalvin Cook. I wish he were tearing it up a little bit more,
but he's still giving you good production.
I just want him to have one of those special games.
It hasn't quite happened yet, but he has scored in two straight games.
All right, Houston 22 and Tennessee.
You want to talk about Cousins or Rodgers? I'm sorry.
I think it's pretty obvious what you're doing with Aaron Rogers.
This will give this game will give you confidence to start Aaron Rogers for at
least another couple of games without any question.
And cousins is one of those guys.
I'd love to have him and Russell Wilson or him and Carson Wentz or him and
Derek Carr.
And if it's one of those last two,
I probably just have him.
So there, there's a lot to like about Kirk Cousins. Not every game
is like this for him. Everybody knows that, but he certainly has
this type of potential from game to game. Who would you rather have per game?
Because Rodgers has a bye. Rodgers or Jalen Hurts?
Per game, rest of season, I think I'd opt for Rodgers.
Houston 22, Tennessee 13.
Do you have any interest in a Texans running back?
Rex Burkhead.
Yeah, Rex Burkhead had 18 carries.
Any interest?
Yeah, I don't even know if he played the most.
I think it was David Johnson who wound up playing the most for the Texans.
Yeah, 53% of the snaps for DJ.
44% for Rex Burkhead.
Phillip Lindsey, big 3% of the snaps.
Good for you, Phillip. Good for
you. No, I'm not.
I would have to be 3 a.m.
at the bar desperate for Rex Burkhead.
And
buy or sell Ryan Tannehill is the
most droppable person in the world.
He's very droppable.
He's 98% dropshipping.
Another quarterback that I would pick Cousins over.
Look, this is Houston.
This is the game that he should have gone out there
and at least had one of his trademark 22-point games against.
And he was awful.
Awful with a capital puke.
Yeah, he was so bad.
And look, losing A.J. Brown doesn't help.
So I get it.
Still had him for nine targets.
You get New England.
He lost him and he came back in.
Yeah, yeah, right.
He did play a decent amount.
You get him for New England next week.
Tannehill's got New England and then a bye.
There's just, there's no reason, right?
There's no reason.
Is there a reason to carry any Titans player
other than A.J. Brown?
Yeah. For the next two weeks?
I don't know why I can't bring myself to drop Adrian Peterson.
Oh, that's an easy drop.
I mean, it is until you're in running back hell,
and then you just need someone that could plow into the end zone.
Okay, sure.
And he gave you six PPR points this week. I think it's more than what he gave you last week.
I think I should probably drop him. And in his first game with Tennessee,
he scored. So for example,
I think in this league, it's three receiver
PPR league. Honestly,
I think the best player I could probably drop him
for would be someone like Tevin Coleman or
Ty Johnson or Marquez Valdez
Scantling. And I think I'd
do, I don't know if I'd do it for MVS. You would for Ty Johnson or Marquez Valdez Scantling. And I think I'd do... I don't know if I'd do it for MVS, but...
You would for Ty Johnson if...
If Carter were out.
If Michael Carter was going to miss some time.
I might do it for Coleman.
I really feel like Coleman would get more carries.
But, yeah, I'd do it for a Jets...
I'd do it for a starting running back, yes.
Okay, and are you going to look at Nick Westbrook?
There's going to be people who do it for a DST.
There's just not going to be
excitement. Real quick, Dave, just
wrap this up. Any interest in Nick Westbrook
or Keenan at New England next week?
No. Okay. Can we take a quick break
here? I want to look at something that I
think I'm right
about this. I want you to tell me.
I've been looking at Frank Stample for
two years now, whatever,
and I knew he looked like someone,
but I couldn't figure out who he looked like.
I think I figured it out today. Schrager, can you
throw it up?
You got it going there?
I think he's Dean Blandino.
What do you think?
A little bit.
They're even wearing the same clothes
side by side. This is awesome work by Schrager.
Yeah, I think we got this.
That's not bad.
Yeah.
Both sporting the light beard.
Right.
A little bit thicker on the goatee.
Both have great hair.
Yeah, they do have pretty good hair.
I think if you could flip around Frank's part.
His last name is kind of fun.
And you can't get a much more boring last name than Blandino.
Bland, right.
So Blandino.
All right, San Fran 30, Jacksonville 10.
Buy or sell?
James Robinson is the only Jaguar worth rostering.
Yeah.
I think he's their only good offensive player okay i i said this week i i hyped up dan
arnold this week by saying he's what lavisca chanel was supposed to be and then lavisca chanel
was back in his old role as you know catch a short pass try and gain a bunch of yards with it
don't want to trust him.
Don't want to trust Dan Arnold if I don't have to.
Can't trust Trevor Lawrence.
Can't trust Marvin Jones.
Jamal Agnew's a little fun,
but you could find another receiver like him.
It's all Robinson all the time. Okay, let's go to the good team then.
The surging San Francisco 49ers.
Now, hidden in this game,
you had another good game from Debo,
because he had eight carries for 79 yards and a touchdown.
But he had one
catch on two targets,
and three
games ago, he had five catches for 63 yards.
Last week, he had five targets, but he turned it
into 97 yards and a touchdown. Anyway,
any concerns here? Because Iuke had a big game today.
Seven catches, 85 yards, and a touchdown.
Any concerns at all about Debo Samuel?
I mean, I love the fact that all three from Samuel,
Iuk and Kittle found ways to have good games for fantasy
because we're always so nervous about it.
But it took it took Iuk and Kittle catching every target
that they were thrown.
Kittle had a good game, not an amazing game.
And Iuk, we just I think he's going to fall into that role of being one of
the inconsistent receivers,
but one that we don't want
to necessarily trust. Do you have any
concerns about Debo? Do you have any concerns
about Debo? No. I'm good.
I love the fact that Debo Samuel
is getting work in the run game
because eventually a game's going to come along
where he gets some good carry work
and he still catches seven of 10 targets.
Okay.
All right, let's go to,
we got like five games left, Dave,
so let's knock them out.
Let's go to Philadelphia 40 and New Orleans 29.
How do you value Miles Sanders going forward?
Maybe as a flex. That's it i just i i yeah i i know that the stat line was kind of pretty
i like that he had 94 yards on 16 carries but he also fumbled in the game i think philadelphia has
it in their heads that they need to use multiple running backs and that there won't be one feature
guy yeah but he i think the yards per carry is going to be so high i mean even jordan
howard is averaging over five yards per carry and then he comes yeah you average over six today yeah
i know it's it's just crazy yeah and i'll tell you what like as soon as jordan howard's back i think
this team likes running with him yeah but but like i said he had seven sanders had seven of those
first eight carries until he fumbled. Okay.
Would you rather have rest of season?
Let's say in a half PPR league,
Devante Smith or miles Sanders.
I'd probably take the running back there.
Would you rather have Devante Smith or Jalen Waddle?
I think I'd take Waddle.
Okay.
And look,
Smith's game two weeks ago was outstanding,
but the game that he had on Sunday,
six targets,
four catches,
61 yards.
I think that's going to be fairly common.
If not,
maybe a little too low for him moving forward.
Dang.
Austin Eckler's good.
Yeah,
he's good.
Really good.
All right.
So I'll just give you a few more here miles sanders or miles gaskin
i think i'd lean toward gaskin over sanders and i would take edwards hilaire over sanders as well
washington 27 carolina 21 a listener buyer sell from spicy mcnuggies buyer sell cam
newton is a top 10 quarterback rest of season,
29 fantasy points in his first start.
It was amazing to see.
I'm still going to have some trust issues with him
coming through for three total touchdowns week in and week out.
He had a great game. He really did.
If you pick them up to be a potential bi-week replacement quarterback
or a potential streaming quarterback,
this type of game will give you confidence for the next three weeks
to start Cam Newton.
Would you rather have Cam or Russ the rest of the season?
I think you can make the case for Cam.
What would you rather do? Who would you rather have?
I think I'd rather have Cam.
You almost pencil in one rushing touchdown every game.
And his passing was pretty good.
He was 21 of 27 passing.
He did have some off-target throws, but not, it wasn't egregious by any stretch.
He's got Christian McCaffrey to throw to.
That's always going to help pad his stats.
McCaffrey, or sorry, Gibson.
Gibson had a pretty similar game to Miles Sanders no catches he fumbled
he had about 95 total
100 yards yeah
you'll take it you know it's not going to kill you
the fumble hurts but you'll take it
on the play he fumbled on
I think he could have scored so if he just hold
if he had held on to the football
man I think that there would have been
like he was on
it looked like he was on his way
to finding the end zone on that play anything else from this game deandre carter he's got a
touchdown in three straight games any interest i had no not really desperation wide receiver
okay he's exactly the type of receivers that oh he's scored in three straight games i'm going to
start him right right and he doesn't of course i would have said that last week oh he's scored in two straight games we
should start him no don't do it and then he goes and he scores this week but it was two for 22 and
a touchdown so he didn't miss out on that many points i like robbie anderson getting six targets
and five catches so it's a little bit different for robbie now than it was before where he would
get 13 targets and two catches yeah crap. It's a crap bowl like that.
More efficient.
P.J. Moore at his first game with over 15 PPR points
since I think week four.
That's nice.
But the start that he had to this game,
I was thinking, oh, he should have over 100 yards easy,
and he didn't do it.
Well, it's just going to be hard to do.
I mean, that's the thing.
Cam Newton threw for 189 yards.
That's very good, especially on 27 pass attempts.
But that's just not, you're not going to see a lot of games
with a ton of passing yards from Cam Newton.
You're not going to see, you might see it,
but it's going to be hard for DJ Moore.
All right, Cincinnati 32 and Las Vegas 33.
Bengals had the ball for 13.
Bengals had the ball for 37 minutes and 20 seconds
big time of possession gap here bad games from burrow and car uh what do you make of that i
think i i think i just can't trust derrick car anymore but but what about burrow for you and
do you feel the same way about car i think you can still trust burrow you'll probably knock him
down to a low-end starting fantasy quarterback.
Mixon really took over this game in the second half for Cincinnati.
Right.
Burrow has really been having a very good year.
He had scored 22 or more fantasy points in seven of nine games, I believe.
And now it's seven of ten.
Raiders did a good job pressuring him too they sacked him three times i don't know how many overall hurries he had or knockdowns
anything like that but i know the raiders were getting to him and that's going to be the
consistent issue with him the rest of the year is how well can this offensive line protect him
how much do you trust Josh Jacobs?
Still as a number two fantasy running back, I love that
he's getting targets and catches.
Derek Carr is checking down to him. I love that.
So here's
his last seven games.
Five catches. Four, one, three,
four, five, five. That's terrific
for Jacobs.
Happy to see that for him. And great game for Waller. Seven for 116. That's terrific for Jacobs. Happy to see that for him.
And great game for Waller. 7 for
116. That was great to see.
Would you rather have Jacobs or David Montgomery
rest of season?
I think I'd rather have Montgomery.
Jacobs or Sanders? He's not catching as much
as Jacobs, but he's certainly
a little healthier, and I feel like both have the chance
to score each week. Same type of chance.
Maybe a little more so for Montgomery.
Jacobs or Sanders? I'll take Jacobs over Sanders.
All right, moving on to
Arizona 23, Seattle 13. A listener
by herself from Lock It Up, spelled like
Tyler Lockett. Lock It Up, by herself,
Seahawks belong in the XFL.
They don't belong
in the XFL. They still belong in the NFL,
but they've got all kinds of problems.
Russ isn't drawing pinpoint footballs.
We talked about DK and his,
his issues holding onto the football.
The run game is a total mess.
We saw DJ Dallas getting involved toward the end of the game.
I wonder if he's going to turn into someone worth,
uh,
worth a gander off the waiver wire.
Cause Collins just can't get the job done.
Yeah, and we did talk a lot about Russell
Wilson and being concerned about him,
but does that trickle down to Metcalf
and Lockett?
This week it didn't.
I felt like he was back on the same page
with Lockett. No, I mean your fantasy
confidence. The second reaction play that he had with him.
Your fantasy confidence, I'm sorry. I meant
your concern about Wilson.
Does that concern trickle down to Metcalf and Lockett?
Yes.
But I don't know if I'm ever going to get to a point
where I'm out and out sitting Metcalf and Lockett.
Yeah.
But with Metcalf,
would you rather have Metcalf or Debo Samuel?
I'd rather have Debo.
Would you rather have Metcalf
or DJ Moore?
I'd rather have DK Metcalf.
I'm scared that you had to even think about that,
but I get it, you know,
because Metcalf's been a little concerning.
I mean, I would take Metcalf,
but if Wilson is not himself,
that's going to be a problem.
Who would you rather have rest of season,
DK Metcalf or DeAndre Hopkins? And we don't
know when Hopkins is coming back.
It's weird.
I'm just
such a big DK Metcalf
fan that I'm almost in denial.
I'm going to stick with Metcalf.
And I still believe in Russell
Wilson, but it's really getting hard.
If he's not good against Washington next week,
then things are going to change.
I bet he struggles.
Okay, and then how about Zach Ertz?
Anything to say about him?
Eight catches, 88 yards, two touchdowns on nine targets.
Scott Fishbowl champion, Zach Ertz.
He was amazing.
Definite breakout game for him after a couple of really bad games for the
cardinals uh as long look they're they're going to come out of their buy theoretically with kyler
back with the andre hopkins back and that just leads me to believe that zackerts is probably
someone who like dawson knox get what you can for him and trade because he might be a four or five target per game guy coming out of the bye.
Last game, Chiefs and Cowboys.
I do want to talk about Ezekiel Elliott.
Nine carries, 32 yards, six catches for 36 yards.
Pollard had seven for 50 and two catches for 20 yards.
I can't imagine anyone's going to sit Ezekiel Elliott,
but how do you value him going forward?
You already said you take Swift over him.
Is it worth talking about this?
I probably not.
Cause I think people,
well,
there are going to be people who are freaking out about Zeke again,
but I don't think it's going to be as bad as it was in week one.
Look,
he got hurt.
He missed a lot of the game.
So of course he's not going to have a lot of touches when that happens.
Let's see if he can.
And the short week isn't going to help him if he's got a significant injury.
It could be Tony Pollard time on Thanksgiving.
Let's just let's see what the practice report says on Monday before we make a big decision
on what to do with Pollard.
But everybody's kind of been waiting for the Zeke's era to end in Dallas and for Tony Pollard
to get an opportunity. I think we're getting closer.
Yeah, and I think actually if Lamb and Cooper are both out,
I think you might be able to start both guys. I actually did have to start both
of them in our 2QB league.
Because they're involved in the passing game to a degree
so you get some PPR points in there.
Are you going to trust Dak Prescott against the Raiders
on Thursday if Cooper's
out? If Lamb and Cooper are both
out? If they're both out, it's going
to be harder to do,
but I think I would still try.
Expectations would be
down. And the Chiefs are the Chiefs.
We spent a lot of time on Clyde Edwards-Elair.
Travis Kelsey is Kelsey's awesome.
He had a rushing touchdown.
Tyreek Hill.
Yeah, look, it's weird for Hill.
He's a different receiver right now.
He's just getting a lot of catches on a lot of targets,
but not getting those big touchdowns.
Either way, you start him every week.
Michael Gallup was truly disappointing,
but I'm not totally shocked
because the Chiefs have two good cornerbacks and they are tough against outside receivers.
Two good cornerbacks and they put pressure on Dak quite a bit.
Yep. Yeah. Another thing to look out for is Tyron Smith. And he is so big to this offense.
He missed another game. Let's hope they get him back on Thursday.
All right, Dave.
I'm going to start making some side dishes, you know?
They need four days to really get the flavor.
You know, a lot of marinating.
Yeah.
Stuff like that.
Stuff like that.
Yeah, good. Good.
I wasn't really a big stuffing fan, but now I am.
I kind of get the hype now.
Okay, thanks for listening and watching, everybody.
Hope Week 11 was great for you.
If it hasn't been, hope that turns around Sunday night and Monday night.
And we'll talk to you tomorrow with another episode of Fantasy Football Today.
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