Fantasy Football Today - Week 13 Recap! Rookie WRs, Bucky Irving, Isiah Pacheco and More (12/01 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: December 2, 2024We start with the big news (2:15) with injuries to Trevor Lawrence, Taysom Hill, Ladd McConkey and a few others before getting to our biggest winner (3:45) and biggest loser (4:40) of Week 13. Bucky I...rving is the man, but Baker Mayfield might be tough to trust going forward ... Buy or Sell (7:10) on DK Metcalf, Marvin Harrison Jr., Isiah Pacheco and Tony Pollard. Then we've got more news and notes, more winners (18:50) including Russell Wilson and Nick Westbrook-Ikhine and more losers (25:45) including Aaron Jones and Tony Pollard ... Recapping each game with our Fantasy thoughts (33:45) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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What's going on?
I hope week 13 was awesome for you.
Still have a couple of games left,
but we are here to recap the Sunday.
And you know what?
The Friday action too.
That game deserves some commentary, so we'll get to that.
Adam Hazer, Heath Cummings, Jamie Eisenberg.
All right, how we doing guys?
Feeling good?
How was your trip home?
Trip home was good.
I told the story on the show this morning.
I watched Lord of the Rings,
but the flight ended about anywhere from eight seconds to eight minutes before the end of
the movie. So I have to figure out, it's on max apparently. So we'll watch that. And now
I'm a Lord of the Rings guy. So that was unexpected, unexpected part of the trip. But everything
was good and I missed you guys on Friday. I'm glad to be back. Let's get to it with
our big news. Start with that. Trevor Lawrence. I'm sure you've all seen the hit
People were acting like it was the dirtiest hit in the history of football
it was bad, but he left with a concussion and
Looked like a bad, you know, he had that reaction that you hate to see so it could be I'm not gonna speculate
But it's a concussion for Trevor Lawrence
I would be surprised if he plays again this year just from where they're at and what the situation was going into the game
The last couple of weeks for him about you you know, conversation, shutting it down,
like why risk it at this point?
J.K.
Dobbins on IR, Austin Eckler on IR, James Connor signed a two-year contract extension,
then he left with a wrist injury, but he did come back.
So I think we dodged the bullet there with James Connor.
Roshan Johnson left with a concussion on Thursday.
Bucky Irving gave us a little scary left with a hip injury,
but he came back and he had an amazing game.
And then Rashad White basically sealed it
with a long run in overtime,
which I did not get to see because it wasn't on TV
and it went off red zones.
I was disappointed in that.
C.D. Lamb expected to play next week.
He re-aggravated his shoulder on Thursday.
Rashad Bateman left with a knee injury.
They going into their bye, but Bateman has a knee injury.
Lad McConkey left in the fourth quarter.
We'll know more about that injury tomorrow on Monday.
We'll have Beyond the Box score.
Hopefully we'll have something for you by then.
And Taysom Hill left with what looked like
a pretty rough knee injury in the fourth quarter.
They're at the Giants next week.
And Dallas Goddard left with a knee injury.
They are at the Resurgent Carolina Panthers next week.
So that's the big news that we're tracking here.
Let's go to our biggest winner Heath Cummings.
Who's our biggest winner of week 13.
Well, I think it's gotta be Bucky Irving.
Um, it's, we said the breakout two weeks ago, but there was still just one
week of him dominating targets like that.
And Rashad white had the same number of rush attempts and there
were reasons to have doubts.
And after this performance where he just like, he even left the game with an injury
for a short period and just thoroughly dominated, um, both his own running backs
in this backfield and the Carolina Panthers.
And he legitimately looks like I saw somebody said in the chat, he's a, not
just a winner this week, he's a league winner. And that is exactly what it looks like.
He's now scored more than 15 PPR fantasy points
in six of his last seven games.
And the only time he didn't was at Kansas City,
which is the toughest matchup.
So you got the Raiders next week.
He's a start rest of the way. Bucky Irving 67% started.
Jamie, how about the biggest loser today?
Just put the,
the point the finger at myself with Baker Mayfield
at the start of the week, same game, you know,
thought he would do much better against Carolina.
Obviously the knock got banged up in the game,
but that's no excuse.
He was not throwing the ball well before that,
couple of interceptions that were ugly and so no we might have a
Baker Mayfield problem you know back-to-back weeks with under 20 fantasy
points he has locked in on Mike Evans which is a good and bad thing because it
seems like the Panthers were sitting on a few of those routes and K-Dot has
disappeared there's nobody else stepping up really to help them aside from the
running backs on occasion but we may have an issue with Baker Mayfield as a must start quarterback when everybody's playing again.
Yeah, very frustrating.
All right, Bucky Irving the biggest winner Mayfield the biggest loser.
If you if you recall I should have stuck with my gut and I said I was back and forth Bucky
Irving and Baker Mayfield didn't have enough running backs to use in the column we talked
about this I think on Friday.
I'm sorry, Thursday.
Our Thursday show was Wednesday.
Wednesday.
Yeah.
I should have went with Bucky Irving.
Just to the Mike Evans point, they
said on the broadcast that Baker told them
during the week that Mike Evans needs 99 and 1
and 1 half yards per game to get to 1,000.
So six games out.
Baker Mayfield already knew what the number was.
He got 118 in this game thanks to overtime.
So we'll need a little bit less than that moving forward.
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The first one comes from Adam plank. He says buyer sell Marvin Harrison, Jr
This is an interesting ones coming off a good game for him
Marvin Harrison, Jr. Doesn't need to be started for the rest of the
season. He just had 12 targets, which is surprising. Five catches, 60 yards and a
touchdown at Minnesota. He gets Seattle next week, then New England, then at
Carolina. So by yourself, Marvin Harrison Jr. does not need to be started for the
rest of the season. So, so I kind of see his point. You know, he only had five catches on 12 targets.
He catches about half his targets.
You only had 60 yards.
You can, you can up the coach speak index for Gannon because he said before the
game that the passing offense was going to run through Marvin Harrison.
Now Trey McBride still had 12 targets.
Also caught them all by the way, for 20 fantasy points without a touchdown again.
Okay.
But like we saw the increase in targets.
The schedule is fantastic.
We're going to start Marvin Harrison, especially next week.
Oh, Seattle.
I mean, I feel like they're getting a lot better.
Well, there's six teams on a body.
Oh, there are.
Yeah, that's true.
You're starting in next week mostly by default.
I think once we see what comes out of this game, but if you say he's going to get this
many opportunities weekly, you're starting him
I was just gonna ask when you brought up
Bucky Irving as a league winner. Could you comfortably start an all-rookie team?
Rest of way. Yeah
Who's that second rookie running back though cuz Jayden Daniels Tracy Tracy
Splitting carries last week but okay
Harrison neighbors and Thomas yeah I don't know that I don't love that I
don't think we'd win with that we have Daniels and next if it's super flex oh
now it's super flex who you're just you got hours you got hours like Bowers it's
a pretty it's a pretty good I don't think we can win with those receivers I
don't like what am I am I the only one that's seen Malik neighbors be horrible for like...
He just scored 15 fantasy points.
That's great.
Like every week he scores between 11 and 15 fantasy points and you act like he's the worst wide receiver in fantasy.
Going into the Dallas game, he was wide receiver 33 per game.
With no touchdown. That's pretty good.
He doesn't score. That's the worst team in football.
Oh yeah, Ladd. We got Ladd too.
Oh, McConkey. Yeah, Lad. So we brought that up.
Yeah, get neighbors out of there.
Well, McConkie's hurt, though.
So we got to check.
Oh, you got you got two receivers.
You got three receivers in a flex.
So we got all four of those guys.
All right. I don't think we'd win.
By ourselves from Jason.
We ran easily.
By ourselves from Jason.
DK Metcalf is a number three receiver
and Russell Wilson is a top 12 quarterback.
Metcalf is a number three receiver and Russell Wilson is a top 12 quarterback. I do buy Metcalf as a number three receiver when we are back to every team playing and
I don't buy Russ as a top 12 quarterback unless he's playing the Bengals every week.
That's just an absolutely atrocious defense.
And I wish I would have known Logan Wilson was not playing because I would not have said
Najee Harris is set.
Sell sell.
Yeah, Metcalf, I think he's getting a little unlucky. I feel like he drew at least one
pass interference penalty, getting these end zone targets. How concerned are you? And he's
got Arizona next week, which is never good for him and then Green Bay Minnesota at Chicago to finish things out but four caches for 66 yards
on nine targets at the Jets so that's 70 yards 59 yards 66 yards and three
straight games with no touchdowns. I don't think he's healthy I mean he got banged up a little bit in this game too it seemed like.
I'm probably just gonna keep starting him. I think everybody's still starting
him but you know two receiver receiver leagues, like you could
probably find some guys that are in better standing than him.
His own teammates better than him right now.
All right, let's take a break and come back and talk about Ken Walker.
If you want to see my blood boil, we'll talk about Ken Walker when we come back on Fantasy
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Buyer Cell continues here with Dr. Goldfish, MD.
I wouldn't recommend him.
Kenneth Walker is matchup dependent at best, Buyer Cell.
So,
okay, this is now five straight games
with fewer than 14 PPR fantasy points.
Usually though, pretty close to 14.
I mean, three straight games with more than 13,
less than 14, but today 49 yards,
rushing negative three receiving two catches.
So that's what?
Eight, 6.6 fantasy points for Ken Walker. Frustrating. So I
yeah, I've kind of had it.
I know you're matching him.
No, I don't have enough.
I mean, the only guy in one league I
have Walker and I could bench him for
Ramandre Stevens and I'm not doing
that.
But I don't have as much faith in
him. You know, he's one of those
players are like, yeah, I'm going to
keep starting him, but I'm not doing it
as enthusiastically anymore.
The allure has definitely disappeared. You know, it seemed
as if he was going to be more involved in the passing game.
That's that's now gone. The short yardage stuff to Zach
Charbonneau is really frustrating. Especially after
some of those calls where he was not necessarily Charbonneau's
fault, but just the play design was terrible. Yeah, that's
their whole offense has just been weird.
Yeah, I did. So there's a comment here. They keep using
Charbonne so much on the goal line. It's not really true. Ken
Walker was in there. If we specifically talk about goal line
carries, Ken Walker was in there more than Charbonne. I think
Charbonne had a seven or eight yard touchdown run. I watched
this whole game basically, and I really didn't think it was Walker's fault for what it's worth. He just didn't have a lot of
chances. He got he got better in the second half but they were all over him.
The Jets D-line really crushed the run game. That's just one man's opinion but
it goes it's more than just one game. He just has since that Detroit game he had
his toughest matchup of the year, his comeback from injury and he ran all over
Detroit. Since then he just hasn't run the ball well.
And I don't really know what to say at this point,
but I'm kind of like what Heath said.
I'm probably gonna keep starting him.
All right.
From Sean Millerick, buyer sell.
Isaiah Pacheco is a must start
in 12 team leagues rest of season.
Rest of season sell next week buy.
Chargers next week? Well, it's again, 16 on a buy like it's it's. So compare him to Ken Walker. How do you feel about Pacheco?
I'd rather start Walker right now. Yeah, for sure.
All right. We need to see more from Pacheco. Buy or sell from Will.
You can you can trust Tony Pollard coming off a horrible game.
He had four catches, but a bad game at Washington.
You can trust Tony Pollard rest of season as a starting running back.
So I'd get him twice in the next four weeks.
Yes, I'd put him between Walker and Pacheco.
I would put him ahead of both just with the schedule is coming up for them.
Let's do the rest of the news and notes.
I think I pretty much got all the news and notes, but I'll go through it.
Baker Mayfield left with an injury.
They came right back and then he threw an interception almost immediately.
So that wasn't pretty.
Noah Brown, commander's wide receiver left with a rib injury.
They have a bye.
Calvin Austin left with a concussion.
Steelers receiver.
Dallas Goddard and Taysom Hill I already mentioned.
They're hurt. The Jets. So left tackle Tyron Smith is almost certainly out for the year
he's on IR. Might be the end of his career. And their right tackle Morgan Moses left with
a shoulder injury today. Dallas left tackle Tyler Guyton has a high ankle sprain. We'll
see if he can play through it. I think he has been playing through it. They have the Bengals in week 14.
Giants defensive tackle, Dexter Lawrence
is out for the season.
There were really a lot of defensive injuries.
If I could just, Detroit, Detroit got really beat up
on the defensive line and they've been able
to sort of power through it all year,
but we'll see.
I don't know who's coming back for green.
They have a short week.
I mean, it's a full week for them,
but they play Thursday against Green Bay.
Can't wait for that one. Ahmad Gardner sauce Gardner left in the
fourth quarter. Jacksonville lost two members of their
secondary Darnell Savage and Tyson Campbell Houston safety
Jimmy Ward was evaluated for concussion Tampa Bay Tampa Bay
is just the best matchup and safety Mike Edwards left with a
hamstring injury. See if a no Connell can get it done again
next week against Tampa Bay and read blank and ship for the Eagles very good safety for them see if Aiden O'Connell can get it done again next week against Tampa Bay.
And Reed Blankenship for the Eagles. Very good safety for them.
He left with a concussion.
I can't believe that their defense banged up.
They went in and held.
How much did the Ravens score? 19 points.
Let me check on that.
They had to wait, touchdown, I think, a little more.
24-19, the final score.
Unreal. What a performance.
Who's got a better matchup Cooper Rush or a no-cop?
Cooper Rush has who the Bengals the Bengals and Aidan O'Connell has the Bucks
Who do you trust more with 16 on a buy that's a pretty interesting one for people next week, you know, Kyle I
Relative to this game. I was just just wondering Adam who is your current MVP favorite because it can't be Lamar anymore right? No Lamar's out.
What do you mean Lamar is out? Body work is still amazing. MVP with five losses. I mean I don't
believe in that personally. Everybody who votes believes in that. I don't understand what you're
talking about. Okay hey I'm not saying I'm just saying who my MVP is. I don't believe you. You do
remember I just want wanna remind you,
they have an Offensive Player of the Year award
for the best offensive player stats.
Okay. If you wanna vote
for somebody for that.
I don't believe that Lamar Jackson
is the reason they've lost five games.
And I also, this reminds me,
I think we're stuck in the Stone Age a little bit here.
So reminds me of when voters
for the Cy Young award used to care about wins. Now they don't care about wins at all
or barely. He still, it's not like the Ravens are having a bad season. Come on now. But
it's a tough case to make, I admit. All right.
It's a three, three man race depending on what happens tonight between Josh Allen, Saquon
Barkley and Jared Goff.
You better say Lamar Jackson.
Lamar Jackson is in the race.
He's one great game away from being right now.
He is one of five contenders, if you want to extend it.
He's one of four, if you want to keep it at that number.
But you can't lose five games, not win your division,
and be the MVP.
I think you can, but, okay.
I understand this. I mean, if, Jalen Hurts has got to be in the MVP. I think you can but okay I understand I understand I mean if
Jalen Hurts has got to be in the conversation. Sure he's having a good
year too but not having a Lamar Jackson year. You know what they should just use
fantasy points they should just use fantasy points it really is a great stat
isn't it? Who wins the MVP without fantasy points? To me Tahit's point if you're not gonna give it to a
running back Saquon is going to be the offensive player of the year.
So it's probably Josh Allen or Jared Goff, depending on how these guys go.
Maybe still Mahomes is in it also.
Oh, come on.
They said on the broadcast, Philadelphia's never had an MVP.
I saw, I heard that.
That was nuts.
All right, let's get to our winners and losers here.
Jamie's winners, Brian Robinson Jr. started in only 39% of leagues. I benched
them and he went for 16 carries, 103 yards and a touchdown and one catch. And I don't
know if he played at all in the fourth quarter. Chris Rodriguez got pretty much every carry
in the fourth quarter. So this was a blowout win and Brian Robinson Jr. was a big winner.
Lad McConkey and Russell Wilson. But let's start with Brian Robinson Jr., Jamie.
So I didn't think he was going to play well, not 100 percent.
This Titans run defense prior to this week had been just lights out against three amazing
running backs in J.K.
Dobbins, Aaron Jones and Joe Mixon and back to back to back weeks.
And look, Robinson was was fantastic.
As soon as he broke that long run, I was like, oh, here we go.
Long day for him.
So for anybody that sat him, I felt awful for suggesting it.
But the positive is like
coming off the bye week you're gonna get three more games of no Austin Eckler and if they're
chasing points I still think he's their best pass catching running back to so you go back
to week four the Arizona game when Eckler missed he had three catches in that game and
had 20 PPR points I think three catches is probably realistic on a week to week basis
that was last time he had more than one catch
was that week four game.
So not only was it a winner 40 to today,
moving forward you have a potential stud.
Next up Lad McConkey.
So we got to check the injury obviously,
but this guy is a huge playmaker.
I think the stat of the game that I gave on Wednesday night
was that he had the most explosive plays
among wide receivers in the last however many weeks it was.
And he had two more today and he went for 117 yards
on 12 targets on only 23 pass attempts
to Lad McConkey, Jamie.
Yeah, fun little note, which I thought would help
maybe two guys, both he and Kamani Vidal
from the Atlanta area or Georgia, from the state of Georgia, McConkie
played at Georgia.
You know, I like those little tie-ins.
And I asked our two NFL players on our show today about when you play in your hometown,
how much does that excite you guys?
And Logan Ryan and Darius Butler both said, oh yeah, you know, get a little bit more excited.
Worked out for one, not so much for the other.
But McConkie is a stud.
I mean, he's just, you know just emerging as the guy for Justin Herbert.
I'm very curious.
I did see somebody somewhere suggest maybe T. Higgins
to the Chargers in the offseason as a potential landing spot
for him.
That'd be interesting because getting another piece
to that offense would be fun.
But Lad McConkie has stepped into not the same player,
but that Keenan Allen role, that go-to guy for Justin Herbert.
And it's just been fun to watch.
He's been such a standout rookie and sky's the limit for him moving forward.
And how much do you trust Russell Wilson, your third winner?
He scored 32.9 fantasy points at Cincinnati.
I believe he's the number two quarterback this week behind Jaden Daniels, getting Cleveland
and at Philadelphia, then at Baltimore.
So we talked about this on Tuesday with the waiver wire stuff.
Like I thought he had a chance to play well just because Cincinnati so bad,
this far exceeded my expectations. You know, he had to pick six, which,
you know, I don't know if you want to give him, you know, blame him for that.
Didn't seem like it was fault, but, uh, just a great performance.
And I think the one thing that was interesting and I hope Calvin Austin's
healthy, he was using the middle of the field. You know, he had, you know,
the throw to Austin, he had a throw to Firemuth, he had a throw
to Mike Williams you know which is not something we see from him. And obviously George Pickens
I like that Mike Tomlin called him out and said he's got to play you know smarter and
not be such a knucklehead with the the personal foul penalty or the unsportsmanly conduct
penalties but you know if he can develop some other weapons I think he'll play better against
Cleveland you know just because hopefully weather will be better but you know, if he can develop some other weapons, uh, I think he'll play better against Cleveland, you know, just because hopefully weather will be better.
But you know, Russ, this was, this was a big step forward for him.
And if he can play like this and the defense continues to play well, I don't
really look at this as a poor defensive performance because obviously Cincinnati
is offensive so good, but you know, what the defense is capable of, like they're
going to be a legitimate contender. But for fantasy, next week,
I don't mind Russ as a top 12 quarterback
against Philadelphia, no chance.
Heath, your winners are Marvin Harrison Jr.
who has started in 69% of leagues
and had five catches, 60 yards,
and a touchdown at Minnesota on 12 targets.
Nick Westbrook-Ekine and Bucky Irving.
And let me ask you this, actually.
Let's say, let's just throw Marvin Harrison Jr. In this conversation,
let's say a lab Macconkey is fine and the injury is not serious and he's playing
next week. Who is the number one wide receiver for you?
Rookie wide receiver for you rest of season
and works.
It's probably still Malik neighbors.
Um, but Marvin Harrison Jr. Would probably be second for me.
Um, like I said, the next week's matchup is probably the worst that he has all
season long and it's the week when six teams are on a buy, but then you get the
Patriots, you get the Panthers and I'm not too scared of the Rams.
If they actually finally, for some reason, start throwing him the ball double
digit times per game, he might in the fantasy playoffs, justify the ADP.
Now I'm not sure how many people drafted him in round two and they're going
to make the fantasy playoffs, but he might like be that guy as a borderline
number one wide receiver in the last three weeks of the fantasy season
Alright, would you take Brian Thomas ahead of it any of those two guys if you knew Ben Johnson is the coach
Next year you mean yeah
Because I was I was answering that question rest of season. That's that's what you you wanted there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so for, I thought you said next year.
I'm sorry.
No, I meant rest of season.
I probably would take Thomas ahead of McConkey.
I think I'd probably go neighbors, Harris and McConkey.
Oh no, neighbors, Harrison, Thomas, McConkey.
Right.
Yeah.
For next year.
All right.
Nick Westbrook, Akina.
I don't know if we could ignore it anymore.
He's at seven of his last eight games with a touchdown now. And as I mentioned on, uh, on the starter sit episode, he leads the team by a mile in red zone and end zone targets. He had one more red zone and two more end zone targets today.
So is this, uh, is this legit? Is he a starter now? 54% roster Nick Westbrook-Kokine. So I think he's probably a starter for sure in three wide receiver leagues with
a matchup against Jacksonville and six teams on a buy.
I'm going to say that 7,000 times.
There should be some sort of bell that rings whenever we say it this week.
But this was a different thing. I was trying to see,
I know it's a season high of eight targets and looks like tied a career high
of eight targets and some of what he's done,
he's done in an unsustainable way.
And he did have two catches in each of the two games
before this, but he just keeps turning in starter worthy
production and then he saw the uptick in volume
and then we get all the teams going on by.
And so I think he used to view him
as a number three wide receiver.
There we go.
I found a bell.
Okay. Number three, Dick Westbrook Kikine.
Bucky Irving was your other winner.
He is crushing it.
So let's go to the losers now.
Heath, your first loser is Chuba Hubbard,
who was 82% started.
He had 12 carries for 43 yards
and a fumble that lost them the game, unfortunately.
Jonathan Brooks had six carries for 18 yards
and he had three catches.
Chuba did not have a catch in the game.
I do think he dominated snaps,
but it was not a good week for him.
What are you thinking here?
So I did send this in before he Tracy'd,
but that's what we're gonna call an overtime fumble
to lose your team the game.
No, I think I did not like the fact
that it was almost like series
that they were splitting early in the year
or early in the game.
And Brooks, as you said, at all the running back targets, it's a really
weird situation because it's a team that's not really competing for anything this year.
And they've got this rookie running back that's now played two games in the NFL.
And we kind of thought, well, you know, they weren't not going to overuse him
because he's going to be the lead back next year, but then they signed
Chuba to the contract extension.
And so I do wonder if they just want to get Jonathan Brooks a few more looks
later in the season.
Um, I'm not sure after we get through the buys that Chuba Hubbard is going
to be a must start running back.
Might be a low end number two.
Even next week, it's going to be tough against Philly.
You have to let me know in the chat
if it's getting annoying or if it's funny.
Yeah, do you have like a dinner bell?
Dinner bell would be better.
That's the only bell I have.
Okay, okay.
I could do like a Heath Grown or something, but.
All right, Aaron Jones was a loser for you.
He had five carries in this game,
but he did catch a touchdown late.
Let's see, so how many points for him today? He didn't get to game, but he did catch a touchdown late. Uh, he, let's see.
So how many points for him today?
20 and he didn't get to 13, did he?
I don't think he has double digits.
All right.
So he has now scored 20.
He's now scored 12.2 or fewer PPR fantasy points in five of his last six games.
That's Aaron Jones.
He may have just barely gotten a double digits with that touchdown catch, but
he lost another fumble third game in a row.
I believe he's lost fumble.
He actually fumbled twice in this game.
And I think it was easy to look at last week.
And this is what I struggled with during the projections process.
Just kind of a peek behind the curtain.
The splitting with cam acres, the prior two weeks, you could just say, well,
he wasn't healthy and he got healthy and they gave him all the work.
So they'll give them all the work again this week.
And they didn't really, and he wasn't particularly good either.
So I think he's a low end number two running back.
Okay.
Uh, and tank Dell, you know what?
Tank done.
Done.
I can't make any argument against it.
One catch, four targets.
Um, even yeah.
against one catch, four targets.
Even, yeah, in the best of matchups,
I wouldn't be upset with somebody for dropping him in a redraft league.
He's on a bye next week.
Okay, and then Jamie's losers are Kyler Murray,
Tony Pollard, and Garrett Wilson.
Start with Kyler here, 17.2 fantasy points, but on 45 pass attempts.
It's kind of surprising that he didn't do better. Okay, what do you think about him?
Is he a top 12 guy for you? Rest of season? He will be after next week. You know, I mean,
he's just, you know, the matchup against Seattle, I don't think is favorable based on what Seattle's
done lately. I do think it'll help being at home.
He's not been good on the road this year at all.
This is now I think four or five games where he's been under 15 fantasy points on the road.
So just not playing well away from home.
It was back to back road games too.
So we'll see.
He just did not play well against Seattle two weeks ago.
But I do think after that the schedule is much more favorable.
I like the fact that they featured Marvin Harrison more. I think that'll help
him. You know what he's still capable of when he uses his legs. So we'll see
coming out of next week but probably hard to sit him with so many teams off
next week. What concerns you about Tony Pollard? Why is he a loser? Just Ty J
Spears back.
This is one good game in his last four with Pollard playing without Spears last week.
And Spears played the previous two games, not in full games, you know, the concussion.
But we just have maybe a little bit of a concern.
Again, the schedule is great, so I wouldn't consider sitting him against Jacksonville
coming up in week 14, but just disappointing to see him not take advantage of this matchup,
which a lot of teams had run on Washington recently.
All right, and Garrett Wilson is your last one, but Pollard, it's three kind of stinkers
in his last four games.
All right, so Garrett Wilson, 75% started, got 10 targets, five catches for 41 yards.
Disappointing.
He was wide open in the end zone,
Aaron Rodgers. That play changed the whole game. They may have been 14-0 at that point, or 10-0,
whatever it was. They were playing really well. Garrett Wilson puts a great move on, gets wide
open in the end zone. Rodgers overthrows him by about a yard. I think the next play was a pick-6
and it just- Yeah,. Yeah, by defensive tackle.
They were going into make it 28 seven.
Oh really?
Okay.
Yeah, sorry.
I forgot the score, but they were they were up and they were cruising and everything changed
on that play.
So anyway, yeah, this is very concerning for Garrett Wilson.
This is three straight games with single digit PPR fantasy points.
I think we'll get going against Miami next week.
I don't really worry about that secondary
so much being shut down, you know, where he can't do anything. But again, 16 is on a buy, you're
gonna start him after that if he has a disappointing game again, it's going to be tough to say must
start receiver. And the Dolphins actually had two injuries in their secondary on Thursday. So we'll
see they could be pretty depleted. All right, I don't really have anything to report in terms
of goal line work.
I just wanted to see who it was for the Buccaneers.
It was both Bucky Irving and Rashad White,
but it was not Sean Tucker this week.
Some almost touchdowns, I mentioned Garrett Wilson.
Alvin Kamara had a touchdown catch called back.
Geno Smith missed Noah Fant
on what would have been a one yard touchdown.
Ramondre Stevenson had a two yard rushing touchdown
called back on a hold.
Mac Jones, Miss Brian Thomas, he was wide open for it would have been a long touchdown. Then he had a 56 yard catch right after that, but not the touchdown. Let's see, Adam Thielen. What a
game for Adam Thielen. We've got to talk about him. He could be very popular on the waiver wire
and he should have had another touch. I don't understand how they didn't call that a touchdown.
It was-
Because when he came to the ground,
the ball was not controlled.
And you saw a replay of that?
I mean, that's what it looked like to me.
Okay, I thought, I thought he did have control.
When his elbow hit, it was still moving.
All right, I thought it looked good to me,
but fair enough.
We'll call it a true almost touchdown then.
Pukinakua had an almost touchdown
and Kendrick Bourne had a touchdown catch call back.
On the next play, Antonio Gibson scored a rushing touchdown.
Let's get to the game, so do that after this break
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Should we do the top five at each position or should we do the games?
What do you guys decide?
Games.
Okay, great.
Let's go to Friday, shall we?
Kansas City 19, Las Vegas 17.
We discussed, we discussed Isaiah Pacheco.
How about DeAndre Hopkins though?
Still not playing a ton of snaps,
but four catches for 90 yards on nine targets.
And that's coming off a game where he scored
a touchdown at Carolina.
Who's confident in DeAndre Hopkins?
Let's just start, let's just go week by week.
This upcoming week against the Chargers
and not just because there are six teams on by
It's the story of the week
It's the story of the week
This long he's a number three wide receiver this week and probably a flex at best rest of season
I mean taking on a Raiders team that was down two corners
That certainly helped
Chargers obviously have a much tougher defense.
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Six teams on a buy, he's number three receiver.
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Kind of interested to see where the Raiders backfield goes from here. I mean, wouldn't it be nice just to see what sincere McCormick could do?
He's been pretty good in two games against two great run defenses.
He has what? 17 carries for 97 yards against Denver and Kansas City.
I don't know. Jamie, you think you're going to talk about him in the waiver wire column or write
about him? Oh, for sure. I mean, the fact that Madison you think you're going to talk about him in the waiver wire column or write about him?
Oh, for sure. I mean, the fact that Madison was limited in practice last week, though,
is probably not an encouraging sign unless they're going to commit to him even when Madison
is back. But then who knows when Zameer White is back. Look, this team is obviously not
very stable in terms of, you know, aside from Bowers and Myers at this point, you know.
So I think you just look at the backfield as saying, if the guys are healthy, can you trust anyone?
I think there was a quote basically saying we're going to keep using him or
something like that.
Um, not specifically talking about Madison.
I will say in the Scott fish bowl, it looks like I'm moving on to the next
round, but my only, I think my top two running back options for next week are Jaleel McLaughlin and Roshan Johnson. So I might take a flyer on sincere
McCormick. Yeah, cool. Okay. And let's go to Minnesota 23, Arizona 22. It must be
so fun. I said this to Schaefer. It must be so fun to be a Vikings fan this year.
It's incredible. Another one score win. It's so fun when the Vikings do it. It's incredible. Another one score win.
It's so fun when the Vikings do it. It's like the sky is falling when the chiefs do it. Yeah.
All right. So we talked Kyler, James Connor.
It was a tough run defense, but he got 20 touches.
So hopefully he can turn things around. Trey McBride, two straight gains of 12
catches. We talked about Aaron Jones. All right. How about,
let's react to this Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson with a nice game here, around. Tray McBride two straight gains of 12 catches. We talked about Aaron Jones. All right.
How about let's react to this.
Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson with a nice game here.
Heath, he had seven catches for 99 yards.
Jordan Addison four for 54 TJ.
Hopkinson was bad and they keep throwing touchdowns to other tight ends.
But I guess the passing game, just talk about the passing game for Minnesota.
Only 51 offensive plays in this game for the Vikings. And so all the numbers are kind of a little bit lower than you would like to
have. It was good to see Addison bounce back.
Hawkinson's just right in that tight end 12 discussion where he could have,
like he might have a game where we finished the top five.
He might, what, what did I do?
I'm just laughing at like this defensive lineman,
just belly flopping in the snow.
Sorry, I tried to get that to myself, but it was so goofy.
You had the face, like I said, something dumb.
My bad.
Which I might have also, but no,
I'm not gonna make too much out of the bad day
for Hawkinson, I just think he's at that range of tight end
where there's gonna be good days, there's gonna be bad days,
and you hope you can do better. You probably can't
It was a very weird game
They seemed to not know what to do with the Cardinals blitz
Sam Donald at times was you know foot in the ground and there were three guys in his face and
For him to rally and get two touchdowns. I thought was pretty impressive for his fantasy line
And he's just at this point right now where?
He's just at this point right now where, he's just at this point now where you're just starting, you know, I can't see anything
to change that until he has like a really bad game. And then maybe another, you know, two in a
row, but against Atlanta next week, must start quarterback. And let me tell you this about Sam
Darnall. This is one of my favorite notes here.
He has now scored the second most fantasy points
by any quarterback against the Titans,
the most fantasy points by any quarterback against the Bears
and the most fantasy points by any quarterback
in the last six games against Arizona.
And Cardinals defense has really been pretty good.
And it's a lot of times it's just, how did he do it?
How did he pull it off?
Late game heroics or something.
And he's bounced back from two terrible games.
He had a terrible game against the Jets
and he bounced back from that.
He had a terrible game against the Jaguars
and he's bounced back from that.
All right.
Think about the two teams you just said
that he's had terrible games against.
Like that's the crazy part.
Like those two teams are so bad. Yeah and they won.
Houston 23, Jacksonville 20.
Disappointing that CJ Stroud only scored 16.4 fantasy points.
I mean it's Texans you pretty much know what to do with.
It's like Mixon yes although we got these tough matchups coming up but that and Nico
yes.
So what do we think about ETN and tank Bigsby yeah give
Heath credit he said Straub was gonna be a bus this year and he hasn't been okay
yeah nice work yeah good job Heath yeah all right Heath I wish he had I would I
would take that loss if he could just have like half of the incompletions to Tank Delby completions
and he could have all those fantasy points.
Yeah.
It's been a really sad, really sad season for Tank Del.
Sad season for Travis ETN as well.
Do you guys see yourself starting ETN or Bigsby at any point going forward?
No, no, no, no.
Even against Tennessee, no.
Okay.
And then Evan Ingram is like the least sexy double digit PPR
fantasy point every week guy.
But that's all PPR.
Yeah.
You know, like two or three different dynasty leagues in the past month, I've
dropped Parker Washington, so I would really like it if you guys could tell me
that this was just like a one week aberration and it doesn't mean anything.
It was a great matchup. And on top of it being a great matchup, it was, we said this, you know, with going into
the bye week, I had them listed as a waiver wire guy two weeks ago and then coming off
their bye week, you know, Gabe Davis is out, Christian Kirk is out.
You know, we thought Lawrence coming back, it would help.
And it was Mack Jones today. So it was going to be target opportunities there.
They're going to be chasing points most weeks. Like, I don't think you're gonna feel comfortable
starting Parker Washington, but you know, next week, six teams on a buy three receiver
league, he might be in your, in, in a rotation. I picked them up in one leagues drop them.
I appreciate it.
I'm sad that the bell got annoying because it's, it would be like, if it were fun, it
would be a lot of bells.
If you could have got a dinner bell, it would have been much better. I'm sad that the bell got annoying because it would be like, if it were fun, it would have been a lot of bells today. If you could have got a dinner bell,
it would have been much better.
I'm sad because of the bells running back.
All right, Washington 42, Tennessee 19.
Washington had the ball for more than 40 minutes
in this game.
Is it even worth talking about Will Levis?
I mean, it's over 20 fantasy points
in three of his last four games.
It gets Jacksonville next week.
It gets Jacksonville twice.. It gets Jacksonville twice.
He gets like, he's at Jacksonville,
Cincinnati, Indianapolis, and Jacksonville.
It's pretty, we talked about this weeks ago for Levis,
but he's kind of delivering right now.
But you know what?
I understand in a one QB league,
it's tough to go to Will Levis.
So let's not-
No, again, the six teams on a buy.
Like you may need to start him. Let's talk about Calvin Ridley here.
You know what a stupid eight out was today?
It was stupid 19.7 yards.
I can't take this anymore.
Two catches for 45 yards on seven targets.
Revenge game against Jacksonville next week must start.
And they give up a ton of big plays.
Okay, fine. Jane Daniels, hooray.
McLaurin.
Hooray.
Are we confident in him? I know he had six or fewer targets in four straight games before this game. He had eight targets in this one. We kind of.
He's on, he goes six, six, two, six, three, eight.
Two? 626382. Well, they have a bye next week.
So zero zero.
Yeah.
All right.
But we're back to must-have receiver rest away.
Is Zach or it's a must start tight end.
Yes.
I said this on Friday show.
If you took away his name and you just listed the stats of what he's done recently, there's
no way you wouldn't be starting him recently.
Yeah. But for the season going into this week,
he was not a top 12 tight end, which surprised me.
His last month has just been impressive.
It's been really great.
Three touchdowns in a row,
and he did have six catches in a couple games.
He doesn't have 50 yards in a game in his last five
like it's really just
Various efforts, but the targets were there the receptions there. I mean look for that position
What more do you want? You know, especially with the quarterback that he's tied to
They're gonna do a three-legged race tied to each bad joke, sorry
All right.
Los Angeles 17, Atlanta 13, Kirk Cousins.
Four interceptions.
Tough day for him.
Is he going to get benched?
Not according to his head coach.
His head coach said we're sticking by him.
He's gotten us this far, basically.
He's our guy.
He hasn't started a touchdown in three games.
Are they in first place? I believe they are now tied with the
Bucks who have the Falcons that have had that. Yeah they are in first place. Bucks have the
easiest schedule I think in the NFL remaining. Tampa Bay very one of them. Tampa Bay, very inspiring performance today. We got to get. Well, one team won and one team lost though.
All right, who do you think is going to end up
being the best running back rest of season for the Chargers?
JK Dobbins.
Yeah, I don't think it matters.
Okay, because I'm definitely going to pick up
Kamani Vidal if he's available.
I just don't have faith in Gus. I don't think he is available. I'm pretty going to pick up Kamani Vidal if he's available. I just don't have faith in Gus.
I don't think he is available.
I'm pretty sure on Friday, Jamie picked him up in every league you were in.
Yeah, I tried.
He's 28% roster though.
So he's available for a lot of people.
I had one, one of my father's son leagues where my six year old, so I do the
managing of the team for him.
Uh, one of the other dads said, uh, Simon is my six year old.
He goes, Simon's a big Kamani
Vidal fan, huh?
Yeah, you know it.
And I said, I hope he is.
He's got his poster and everything. The kids love Kamani Vidal. Yeah. So I'm not going
to talk too much about the Chargers passing game. They only threw 23 passes. I think the
24, I think they had a fake punt or something like that.
And they all had the ball for 24 minutes and five seconds.
And we'll see what happens with McConkie.
That would obviously change things.
On the other side of the ball,
what do you make of this bad game from Darno Mooney?
Three catches for 20 yards on six targets.
Kirk.
Shake it off?
Shake it off.
I'm not gonna shake it off for Kyle Pitts off. Shake it off. Shake it off. I'm not going to shake it off for Kyle Pitts though.
No.
No, man.
What was the combined catches today
for the two tight ends of the game?
Zero.
Yep.
On a combined three targets.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's tough with Kyle Pitts.
Hey Charlie Warner caught a pass.
Heath, have you ever seen Nick something, your company's computer guy, the Jimmy Fallon skit on SNL?
No.
Okay, well, in our Superflex league that we share, I dropped Kyle Pitts for Zack Earths. You're welcome!
Okay.
What did you think of my lineup change on Thanksgiving without telling you?
What'd you do?
I benched Aaron Rodgers for Tua.
I benched Aaron Rodgers for Tua.
You did not.
I took him out of the starting line.
Aaron Rodgers in the starting lineup on Thanksgiving.
Wow.
Maybe you meant to and you just forgot.
Oh yeah.
No, I checked the lineup and Tua was in there.
I went and changed the lineup and put Tua in there.
I was definitely going to put it.
I didn't tell you.
I was going to do that because I was using your rankings.
Yeah, you were going to.
I was. I swear. I swear. All right.
Let's go to Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.
You took credit for it knowing that he did. I, I, I think I,
I really thought I did it. I thought I did it. That is amazing. Well,
I meant to, I was, you know, like I wanted him in. All right. Anyway,
Pittsburgh 44, Cincinnati 38. I just was a wild game.
Game of the week.
Yeah. And two weeks in a row without a game of the week, by the way, we got to rectify that.
I did it. I did it.
What'd you do?
I did a Cardinals Vikings.
Oh, okay. But how did you do it?
I just said it's the game of the week.
I don't have the song. He got him really good.
Dave started talking and then Jamie said it and Dave was all flustered.
Did you do it? You really did it in the middle of a sentence?
Yeah.
Oh, nice. Let's go.
What do you think about Najee Harris right now?
It was very weak, but I did it.
No, it sounds great. What do you think about Najee Harris at this big game?
Jamie mentioned that Logan Wilson
didn't play for Cincinnati.
Sheldon Rankins also didn't play,
so it was a much better matchup,
but great game for him and six catches for Najee.
Yeah, this might prove wrong,
but if I somehow can still make trades in my league,
I would like to turn Najee Harris into a running back.
I might be able to start in the fantasy playoffs.
He gets one more good game against Cleveland
and then it's at Philadelphia at Baltimore
against the Chiefs.
Yeah.
So would you rather have Tony Pollard than Najee Harris?
I think I would.
I would with the schedules coming up, yeah.
What about Tyrone Tracy?
Yep.
Yeah.
You guys aren't concerned that they split carries
with Singletary, what do you,
he only had eight carries or something, right?
Tracy?
We're gonna, what happened in the game before with Najee,
where he got out carried by Jaylen Martin, like, you know.
He lived with an injury?
Yeah, I thought he lived with an injury in that game,
but I could be wrong.
Well, he also got what looked like banged up in this game too.
I don't know what happened to him on that run.
Like that was weird.
I think he just looked like he just ran out of gas.
But yeah, I saw that too.
Okay, all right.
George Pickens is good.
Pat Fryermuth, do we just look at this Fryermuth game
six for 68 to touchdown as a matchup thing?
Cause the Bengals are the new chiefs, Jamie.
Bengals are the new chiefs. And again, Logan Wilson, and we'll see if he plays what that
means for Jake Ferguson or Luke Skoonmaker next week as the Bengals take on the Cowboys. But
I think in terms of Fryer Moose, he had four for 49, if I'm not mistaken, against the Browns in the
first meeting. And so- 59.
rounds in the first meeting. And so 59, a four 59, you know, so with the six teams on a buy, you know, he's in the starting mix, but not sustainable. I do think Calvin Austin's
out that helps because I'll give him a few more targets, but it is still Arthur Smith.
As we've seen Washington getting a few more targets, you know, as the season's gone on.
So it's not trustworthy, but under the circumstances for the fantasy managers that
are chasing tight ends on a buy and may have just lost taste some Hill, he might not be
a bad fallback option.
Got a question in the chat. Rico Dowdell or Najee Harris rest of season. Rico has the
Bengals, Panthers, Bucks and Eagles. Pretty good. Pretty good sketch there. Adam or Heath rest of season. Ooh, Jamie, what do you got?
Oh, I love that. It's a tie.
Indianapolis 25, New England 24.
It would be Heath cause he's my son's basketball coach.
I don't blame you.
It's a much longer season left.
Richardson scored 25.2 fantasy points.
A lot of it came on the last drive.
He completed 12 of 24 passes for 109 yards,
two touchdowns, two interceptions.
This is vintage Anthony Richardson.
How are we feeling about him going forward?
He does have a bye than Denver, Tennessee,
and the Giants in the fantasy playoffs.
Don't like the Denver game, but I like the other two.
Especially if they're still playing for something, which right now they're
still in the playoff hunt.
So look, Josh Downs coming back would be huge.
You know, he's been a big part of the passing success for Richardson.
If he ever throws a pass to Kyle Grantson again, they should never play Kyle Grantson
again.
He, Kyle Grantson again, he just drops everything.
So look, he did what he had to do.
You know, the rushing production
is what you're hoping for consistently.
Yeah.
And speaking of rushing production,
I'm going, like we talked about Ken Walker and DK Metcalf,
gonna keep starting them.
I'm gonna keep starting Jonathan Taylor, I guess,
but I'm nervous about it.
Is anybody else nervous?
He caught a touchdown today.
I'm nervous what just happened in this game.
Yeah, I know, I know.
Let's not talk about it.
But Taylor with one catch.
I mean, he basically gets one catch per game.
He's got six catches in seven games with Anthony Richardson.
And he's got Denver and Tennessee.
I know Tennessee just got run all over but they those are two really good run defenses in the
fantasy playoffs. All right we'll get across that bridge when we get there I guess. I am
you're talking about a lot of guys who I just like it doesn't feel very good right now but we're all
going to keep starting them. Yeah.
Uh, Ramon Dre Stevenson started in 68% of leagues, had a decent game.
I think he scored 12 fantasy points right around there.
He had a touchdown called back.
This was the best rushing just in terms of yards per carry, uh, in a long time.
So that was encouraging to see.
And that's it.
And then Hunter Henry, I wish they would stop throwing a Hooper.
Four targets a game, four games in a row.
All right, Seattle and the Jets.
Seattle 26, Jets 21.
Heath, what are your thoughts on the New York Jets?
No.
No, the bet on Devonteante Adams targets paid off this week.
Um, yeah.
And the concern that he was going to ruin Garrett Wilson that looked
silly for a while after he got there, kind of feels like it's happened.
And I hate it.
And I, Brice Hall had one target and didn't catch it.
And Isaiah Davis had three targets and Braylon Allen had two.
And so I hate that also.
Um, and I don't like Aaron Rogers very much.
So that might like my, the short version and now you got the long
version and how I feel about the jets.
I thought I tweeted it as Aaron Rodgers looks really good Isaiah Davis
What you said Isaiah Rogers? I said Aaron Rodgers. Sorry. I said it like Aaron Rodgers
I slurred it Aaron Rodgers looks really good and he did and then he looked horrible as soon as I tweeted that
But he actually looked a lot more mobile,
a lot more mobile than he had at any point
that I've seen all year.
Oh, I saw when he ran all the way to the left side line,
then all the way to the right side line,
and then threw an incompletion,
which is more entertaining than just dropping back
three steps and throwing an incompletion.
Yeah, but he also had his highest deep ball percentage
of the year.
That worked. He had, no, it didn't work, but it was-
He averaged 4.7 yards per attempt and completed 21 of 39 passes.
No, he struggled, but he at least was willing to throw the ball downfield.
He looked better because he's been so bad that he- all right, you know what?
He's done.
I'm going to stop.
No, he was so inaccurate.
But okay, on the other side of the ball,
I think we know we've talked enough about all these guys.
Rams 21, New Orleans 14, as we get to the late window here.
Stafford found a way to score 19.6 fantasy points.
Kyren scored, Kyren's another guy.
He barely catches the ball.
Oh, it's so frustrating.
Anything, anything to worry about here with Cooper cup three catches for 17 yards on six
targets?
I mean, not to worry about, but you know, again, when you're talking about the high
end guys, does he belong there anymore?
I would still say he's on the cusp,
but you know, this, you know,
you got the late touchdown last week,
not that he had a bad game last week,
but that was, you know, sort of put him over the top.
And then you see something like this,
like there's, there's still some flaws,
I think with him overall.
Okay. And anything else?
Anything else to say?
By the way, he had 15 or more points
in five straight games going into this one
and they only threw 24 times.
Anything else in this game?
What, like give me the impact of the Taysom Hill injury
on the rest of the Saints if it's a long-term injury.
Kamara scores more touchdowns.
Yeah, and your, you know,
MVS is Nick Westbrook, a Kina light.
Yeah.
He has four touchdowns in his last three games.
He had three touchdowns in two seasons with the chiefs.
Tampa Bay 26, Carolina 23 and overtime thriller.
So we've discussed the bucks.
Let's talk about Bryce Young and the passing game
for the, for the Carolina Panthers here.
Anybody buying it? Anybody feeling it? I think the Panthers are, you know, it's going to be
interesting off season for them. Did they decide to, you know, draft a quarterback depending on
where they end up in the draft? But he's looked much better. You know, the offensive line is
definitely improved for the Panthers. You're seeing what the receiving court healthy looks
like for them now, you know, with what D Dylan has done. And you said earlier in the show, he is absolutely a must
add receiver. It's a terrible matchup against Philadelphia, but you still want to pick him
up based on the way he looked today and knowing what that rapport is there moving forward.
But yeah, look, it's a it's a it's a two QB got to QB League option super flex league
option. You know, he's performed well and give him credit, you know, rushing touchdown.
The throw to feeling was great.
Probably should have won this game, you know, based on winning, you know, the
touchdown late in, uh, late in the fourth quarter and then, you know, Chubas
fumble, unfortunately.
Um, so this is very encouraging month for, for bright sound in his future.
Are we flexing feeling or Chuba next week?
Against Philly. I'd rather go feeling
Mmm, I think he might be higher
Yeah
You know, there are six teams on a buy next week. So you might actually have to I haven't heard. Yeah. Yeah
Tommy hey, I I don't know if I actually said this but but I thought it a couple of times, Tommy tremble 12.7 fantasy points, uh, without Jatavian Sanders.
He might not be a bad streamer.
Or Jatavian Sanders.
If he comes back.
Yeah.
I know Philly just gave up some big game, big, uh, big performances to
both tight ends for Baltimore, But I don't know, just
trusting any of the Panthers against Philly is going to be tough.
Yeah. Heath is pumped. Heath needed that James Cook touchdown. James Cook is good. Okay.
Philadelphia 24, Baltimore 19. This is our last game. Baltimore dominated time of possession,
but they didn't do much with it. And, um, yeah. So how are we feeling about the Ravens? Okay, I can't even manufacture
a question on this one. How are you feeling about Zay Flowers?
I mean, this is a good bounce back game for him after a couple of, you know, down games
by comparison. Low end number two receiver, I think, rest of season, you know, down games by comparison. Low end number two receiver, I think rest of season,
you know, must start guy in three receiver leagues.
Just depends on what your team looks like,
but look, he's still gonna be the go-to option
in this passing game.
And so Bateman now injured, I think that helps him
if he's gonna be out for a certain amount of games,
but they're on a buy next week,
so no need to stress about it.
If, yeah, if it wasn't for their buy next week,
he might be a squeaky wheel candidate
because he did not seem very happy on the sideline
when he had four targets late in the game.
Got a few late, but they didn't catch any of them.
Okay.
Mark Andrews, if you think Mark Andrews
is gonna get four targets, he's gonna be good.
He got seven in this game and he was awesome.
Six for 67 and a touchdown.
Isaiah, like you have to hold them.
Yeah. I do. Yeah.
Do you?
I could see a situation where I definitely made the effort. Um,
like our 14 team podcast league, um, where I'm 11 and two,
probably want to hold on to them.
But if I was.
This guy.
If I was like seven and six and fighting for the playoffs
and had a bunch of guys on by,
like you might have four or five guys on your bench
on by this week.
I could also see dropping them.
Yeah. And honestly you want pass attempts, right?
And their next two games are the Giants and the Steelers,
and the Steelers kind of have their number.
So it's interesting.
You know who I could see dropping?
I don't know how you guys feel about it, Kate Otten.
Yeah.
He did get seven targets today,
but he's starting to stink again.
Okay. All right, well, I am in a bad mood stink again. Okay.
All right, well, I am in a bad mood.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm sorry about that.
Yeah.
I put everything I had into this week,
spent $15 on fab to go get the Cowboys defense,
really played my heart out, even though I'm four and eight.
And-
Yeah, you're a spoiler.
I have McCaffrey in three leagues.
Oh. Oh boy. oh boy okay well that's
it for for me oh hopefully it's not anything serious I know but he's
questionable with me we'll talk to you tomorrow with Beyond the Box score on
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