Fantasy Football Today - Week 14 Recap! Fantasy Points Everywhere! Josh Allen, Puka Nacua, Vikings WRs (12/08 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Get some awesome Fantasy gear here: https://shop.cbssports.com/fantasy We rattle off some of the remarkable performances of the day from guys like Jordan Addison, Puka Nacua, Josh Allen, Jonnu Smith in overtime and more. Plus we give a big winner (5:45) and big loser (7:30) focusing on the 49ers as winners and the Bears as losers. Can we get back to trusting the Bears in more favorable matchups in the next couple of weeks? ... News and notes (10:40) as Isaac Guerendo headlines the injured players, then we play some Buy or Sell (14:10) on Zach Charbonnet, Amari Cooper and Malik Nabers. We also have more winners (24:40) including Jaylen Waddle and Adam Thielen and losers (30:50) including Keenan Allen and A.J. Brown ... Recapping each game with our Fantasy thoughts (43:30) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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with iGaming Ontario. This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. We nearly got 60 points from Josh Allen. Unbelievable as we welcome you to Fantasy Football Today presented by Bet MGM, the sports book born in Vegas. At one point in the, I don't know, like the early third quarter time of the first set of games, I said to my wife, this is an awful week. This is one of the worst weeks.

It stinks. And then it was great. It was really a lot of fun and a lot of points being scored. I hope it was a successful week for everybody. We'll welcome you to Fantasy Football Today, presented by Bet MGM, the sports book born in Vegas. If you are listening, you probably made the playoffs

or you're just a dedicated listener or viewer. So I thank you for that. What's up, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Hello, Dave. Hello, Adam. Fun games, exciting games. I think we started to see the contenders pull away from the pretenders and we'll continue to see that as the weeks go on. And obviously we're seeing that in fantasy leagues with the last week of the regular season. Hopefully you guys, I can't wait till Tuesday show to find out how many leagues you guys made

the playoffs in. Yeah, I'm pretty nervous about that. Yeah, I think that was pretty much written for me when I put Saquon Barkley and Derek Henry in the bus column. But I just wanted to congratulate Dave for being right about the 49ers thumping the Bears and the Bears just laying down. And Adam, you were right. Like the first, the early games were awful. The late games were fantastic. And we got a lot of fantasy points in the late games, but the early games were awful. Adam, you were right.

Yeah, right. We had busts throughout the 1pm game. Those were good finishes though. Oh, I mean the Gi- I just meant for fantasy. The Giants game couldn't have ended any better. I gotta tell ya. Oh, I mean the giant for fantasy, the giants game. Couldn't have ended any better. I got to tell you.

Oh, they got the phone call. He got the phone call. Yeah. Yeah. Kick it really low. Here's a second call. It's the kick, Mr. Kick. Yeah. Yeah. Here's the segment called. How about that? How about that?

Pukin Akua. This was about, this originally was going to be about Jordan Addison, but Pukin Akua had the third best wide receiver game of the season behind Jamar Chase and Juwan Jennings. And for a while we had teammates finishing as wide receiver one and two. It looked like Addison and Jefferson were going to be wide receiver one and two. That would have been the first time since week seven of 2022 when

Jamar Chase and Tyler Boyd did it, but Pukka Nakua screwed that up. How about that John who Smith did not have a catch until overtime. And then he had three catches for 44 yards and a touchdown against the jets. You know, it's funny. So on HQ this morning, they do same game parlay and as one of the segments and they had the dolphins jets game and Pete had the under segments and they had the Dolphins Jets game and Pete had the under, Pete Prisco had the under on John New Smith's receiving yards and he was peacocking around after that first four quarters and I'm like you're gonna lose it in overtime man. It was a fun sweat for him. Well what did he get on was it under? It was 48, 48. Oh wow okay.

Was it under? It was 48, 48. Oh, okay. All right. How about that? Michael Mayer had a season high 70.7% route participation rate and he had seven catches for 68 yards on nine targets. His first game with more than three targets. And how about that?

By halftime of their four o'clock window games, Zach Charbonneau was already RB1 for the week and George Kittle was already tight end one for the week at halftime. All right let's get a winner and a loser. Two more games to go. Yes that is true. I'm not sure those are gonna hold. It's gonna be tough to beat Charbonneau that's for sure. What did he have? Almost 40 points. Amazing game. It's J. Rico Dowell. I was thinking Chase Brown Wait, am I wrong? Was it like 30 points? How many points did he have? Charbonne?

He had 37 non-decimal, so about 38 and a half decimal. All right, Dave, give me some optimism. Give me the biggest winner. Well, you mentioned a lot of the guys that had a huge game. The Vikings, obviously, with Darnold and Addison and Jefferson, we're going to talk about them. Keith brought up the 49ers and how I was kind of over aggressive on them. And Brock Purdy was really good.

20 of 25 passing over 300 yards, a couple of touchdowns. He had a rushing touchdown called back by a penalty. They were on fire and it felt like the right spot for them to get right against the Chicago defense that just really like they started to make some plays in the second half, but really they just were not in sync early on. Caleb Williams, another terrible first half. I think that put the Bears defense in a lot of bad positions and pretty just kind of went back out there and showed everybody hey I can still play

I can still be a good quarterback and even took a wicked hit in the second half got like bent all around looked like the worst clothesline ever even John Layfield couldn't lay one that bad. The bottom line is that Purdy is a winner this week and if you started him you'll feel good about it and I think he's got some matchups coming up that you'll feel good about. Amps next, be high scoring, dolphins after that, Lions in week 17 and what'll be the game that determines a lot of fantasy championships. I think he's good to go.

I think he's gonna be a top 12 quarterback the rest of the way. And people will have a tough time sitting Jawan Jennings and obviously George Kittle, but Debo Samuel on the other hand, people might have a hard time starting him. Heath, you want to talk about the losers? You want to just stay in that game?

Well, that's just, that's the bears. Every time I start to get excited about Caleb Williams, he just like his aware. I, I, the joke that I made earlier was like his awareness rating on Madden next year should be a negative, but it should be, it's just a glitch. Like he literally glitches out during games and just falls down next to defenders. He was scrambling on one play and intentionally ran in, like tried to truck stick someone bounced off of them, spun, and then slid short of the first down line when there was nobody around him.

Yeah. Um, and it wasn't just him. Like Deandre Swift was awful. Keenan Allen scored six fantasy points on five targets and Roma doonsay scored two touchdowns. Like it was just an absolutely awful performance from an inept franchise and I, I don't know. Well, I hope, I hope that Caleb Williams can figure this out because he has the

physical tools, but his understanding of playing the quarterback position is severely lacking. Okay. So let me ask you this, right? They just had two good games against Minnesota and Detroit. Their next two games are Minnesota and Detroit. Are you going to trust them? Because Caleb threw for 134 yards today that obviously hurt Keenan Allen and co. You going

to trust them against Minnesota and Detroit? Probably not. Now with nobody on the play. Okay. Anthony Richardson or Caleb Williams. Williams next week. Richardson gets the Broncos unless Levi Wallace decides to be a starting corner. So that's a good point. But it's for the fantasy managers that have Caleb Williams and another tough call. Russell Wilson without George Pickens.

We can make a whole list of guys that would be tough calls with Caleb Williams. It wouldn't surprise me if he bounced back next week. All right. We'll get the Jamie's winners and losers in a bit as well. We have some buyer sell on Malik neighbors, on Zach Charbonneau, on the Bills wide receivers, Keenan Allen, or sorry, Mario Cooper with 14 targets today.

That's pretty good. And half of them ran the right route. And the holiday season is here. Heath is spreading holiday cheer all over the place. But you know what he could do, Heath? You can go to shop.cbssports.com slash fantasy. And we've got great stuff for fantasy winners, great stuff for fantasy losers.

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So visit the shop now at shop.cbsports.com slash fantasy and get everything you need to make this season legendary. You can use the link in the episode description or scan the QR code on your screen to shop now. Okay, news and notes, Derrick Carr left in the fourth quarter with a potentially broken hand. And Aiden O'Connell left in the third quarter with a potentially serious injury there.

So both of these guys it's possible they missed the season, Derek Carr and Aiden O'Connell. Jamie your thoughts on the Saints and Raiders offenses going forward? I mean it was a very disappointing day for the Saints, you know, knowing who they were facing especially Alvin Camaro, you know, we thought I think Dave you said he could have the best day of any running back. And I was there with you. I did say that. I think we all felt like that. So it was just extremely frustrating.

And the positive is that the tight end play was good. What we thought could happen. I didn't love the matchup, but Juwan Johnson and Foster Moreau were certainly involved. And we'll see what happens moving forward there. But last time that car was out, they went to Spencer Rattler. Today they went to Hayner. So we'll see what they decide to do, you know, and different coaching staff now than when it happened the last time. But yeah, it's just, it's tough to trust anything but Kamara as a must-door guy. You know, MBS had a

solid game from a target perspective but just didn't do very much with it. Alvin Kamara in three games earlier this year without Derek Carr, he did score 17.4 or more fantasy points in two of them. He had five to six catches in all three games. You know, but he was, let's see, 64 total yards, 24 total yards, 24 total yards, and then like 120 total yards, I should be better at

math, but I'm not. So, you know, it wasn't easy. It was it was a struggle. He's gone seven games now without a touchdown. And it's just it's not a great situation. Plus, we did see some some Kendrick Miller in there. He had an eight yard touchdown run. In terms of the Raiders, yes, but you're still starting Bowers and Myers. You know, Bowers is no brainer and Myers is going to be, you know, I think certainly in play as a number two receiver, you know,

at least a starter through receiver leagues for sure. All right. And running back news, Jonathan Brooks left in the first quarter. So we'll see what. And it was non-contact. It looked exactly like Christian McCaffrey last week. Horrific. But hopefully nothing super long term. I might keep them out for the rest of the season, but hopefully nothing that causes surgery or anything like that. So we'll see on him on Jonathan Brooks. Isaac Arendo left with a foot injury. I mean, this is unbelievable. So now you've got a 3% rostered Patrick Taylor

and we'll see what the deal is with Garendo and potentially a sprained foot. Bucky Irving left with a back injury and Rashad White is a top five running back for week 14 right now. He had a great game. And Travis Homer left with a head injury. He had three catches in the game before leaving.

I don't have any wide receiver news other than George Pickens inactive. No tight end injuries that I'm aware of, any major ones anyway. The Giants lost two linemen, the two offensive linemen. That's I hope you picked up the Ravens DST and left tackle Teron Armstead for the Dolphins. He left in the first quarter, right tackle Morgan Moses for the Jets. He got hurt in warmups, played a little bit and then he left. And defensive injuries, we can go back to that at some other time. If you still can, by the way, anybody that's watching live, LabMaconkey's inactive.

I don't know if we said this at some point. We probably should have said it sooner. Yeah, it's a little too late, but yeah, LabMaconkey's inactive. But I trust everyone who's watching live knows that LabMaconkey's inactive. They're a smart group out there. And they're smart enough to know that if you go to BetMGM right now, if you go to the BetMGM app and you use the bonus code fantasy, you're going to get up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager with BetMGM.

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Buy or sell Zach Charbonneau will be the best Seahawks running back going forward, even when Ken Walker is back. So. I'll buy it. Let's have some fun. Yeah. The heart wants to buy it. The brain says not so fast, but he, I think he's the best fit for this offense right now.

It just seems like it was like three weeks ago that we were all laughing about remember when we said Zach Charbonneau might be better than Ken Walker because every time Charbonneau touched the ball, he ran two yards and fell down. Yeah, there was that. Like he had a, he had a great game today. I'm not, I've, I've been a big Charbonneau guy. I'm not trying to, to downplay it too much, but they love Ken Walker. Like all they did all off season and throughout this season is talk

about how much they love Ken Walker. I, I think it's him. I would think that's the most likely logical answer, but you look at what happened today. It's the best running back performance they may have had all season, you know. And part of that is I think because they let one guy go, you know, that, that. Yeah. Getting in a flow and, and, and taking advantage of how the offensive line was playing, you know, clearly the Cardinals run defense had been much better than what they showed today.

But I mean, they just played each other two weeks ago and Ken Walker couldn't do anything. And then Charbonneau does this. 134 rush yards is definitely the best game. Walker is one game over a hundred rush yards on the season. So there's 103 in week one against Denver. Like this, this was bad for Ken Walker, no matter what, because how do you not give Charbonneau more opportunities? You know, maybe they start rotating drives. Maybe it's, you know, he's the, the, the one a or he's the, you know, it just feels like there's, there's gotta be some, some more work coming for Charbonneau moving forward. So, you know, it just feels like there's, there's gotta be some, some more work coming for Charbonne moving forward. So,

you know, you'd almost like it to be let the one guy sit so at least the other guy can continue to be a feature guy. And Charbonne had been the passing downs back, maybe he starts to work at the goal line even more. Like maybe dominates that over Walker and maybe they split rushing downs work. That could be a solution for Seattle. I, I'm gonna buy it. I'm gonna say Charbonne is the better running back than Walker in full PPR rest of season.

All right. Ken Walker, 3.2 yards per carry in his last eight games. Khalil Shakir and Amari Cooper are both top 30 wide receivers going forward, buy or sell. Khalil Shakir and Amari Cooper are both top 30 wide receivers. And before you answer here, the stats, Cooper had six catches, 95 yards on 14 targets. Shakir had five catches, 106 yards and an awesome touchdown on eight targets and even caught a deep ball in this game.

But by or sell, they're both top 30 guys. So, so I will sell with reluctance for a number of reasons. One, Keon Coleman is gonna come back., he's going to take work away to not every game the Bills is going to play will be like this game, they're going to be able to get their run game going in a couple of other matchups down the way. So I don't think that the volume will be this high 14 targets from Mark Cooper. Goodness gracious, I think he'll be lucky to see nine

in any other game the rest of the season. Well, I'll take that. It might be this high next week at the Lions. Right. Yep. But then it's Patriots and Jets in Orchard Park. I'm going to guess it's not. Okay. All right.

Well, you know, maybe we can start them. Well, I think Shakir, at least, you know what the floor is. He's had double digit PPR fantasy points in every game that he's played a normal snap share. Maybe is this encouraging step for Cooper though, because he's finally starting to play a lot. By wonder what the the seating is, you know, depending on what happens in tonight's game and where the bills are in terms of chasing the one seat or, you know, where do they sort of fall into the, the playoff

seating and then look, Josh Allen, while they lost today, he certainly helped his MVP chances. Yes. Oh, he's yeah. His numbers. So, you know, those two games that Heath referenced could be padding stats. He definitely locked it up in Adam's mind. Now, what will be interesting is after next week, if the bill suddenly only have one fewer loss than the Ravens and Lamar has better stats, then who is Adams?

It may be, but you gotta be the division winner. Got to be the division winner. That makes sense. If they go into Detroit and they get stopped by it for some reason, I don't think Alan's going to be in it. Oh, no, of course not. We should, you know what the most important thing I think for the MVP race is what did

you do in your most recent game? That's what every single person apparently wants to vote on when it comes to the MVP. Look at the body of work people, the body of work. But now Josh Allen is clearly catching up to the board. Yeah, Alan's body of work is pretty damn good. No, it's got, he's- Well, I mean, if we're going based on, you know, winning a game and putting up stats, Sam Darnold's the MVP today.

Like, Josh Allen was minus, like he had minus odds coming into this week. He was the clear favorite entering this game. Nobody asked me, he didn't ask me. And then he had six touchdowns, so it's not close. Byersell, Malik Neighbors. Oh man, I wish I had stuck with my prediction of 80 yards and a touchdown.

He was one yard away from both of those things. Five catches and 79 yards on 10 targets. He had a two point conversion. That's basically like a touchdown for the Giants. There you go. By or sell Malik neighbors is not a top 24 wide receiver in the fantasy playoffs. Bye.

Is he okay? I will sell. I think he can make top 24. He got hurt again in this game, right? He fell in the turf and he got back up. Ravens, Falcons, Colts over the next three weeks. First of all, I don't think the Ravens are a great matchup anymore.

I'm a little concerned. It's not. But he's had great matchups for the last month and a half, basically, and he hasn't scored, but he almost did. He's got- I mean, there's a realistic chance he shuts it down. All right, but let's say he doesn't for argument's sake, because no one's trading right now.

If he plays all three games, I think he'll be top 24. But I don't know if he'll be top 23. He could legitimately be the last guy. Okay. Neighbors has had in the last seven games, eight, nine explosive plays, but five of them have come in the last two games with Drew Locke.

So I do like that. Who do you take rest of the way, Hammer, Jalen, Waddle? Neighbors. Neighbors. Yeah, it's close. Yeah, you take rest of the way? Hammer, Jalen, Waddle? Neighbors. Neighbors. Yeah, it's close. Yeah, you gotta think about that one a little bit more. Cause Dolphins can't run the ball.

Let me know who to throw to. Oh man. Addison. I mean, well, if we're taking Addison and Waddle, the neighbors isn't gonna be top 24. I mean, obviously we're taking like Joann Jettings. He hasn't been top 24 to begin with. Yeah, you know, maybe he's not gonna be top 24. I mean, obviously we're taking like Joanne Jettings. He hasn't been top 24 to begin with. Yeah, you know, maybe he's not going to be top 24. Maybe not.

Playing hurt with Drew Locke. Yeah. Yeah, I've changed my mind. We're going to take a break and talk more winners and losers when we come back on Fantasy Football Today. Hey everybody, it's Dave and my family just got a great gift. An Aura digital picture frame. And now I have a slideshow in my kitchen. High resolution photos from the days my kids were born, pictures from my wedding, all kinds of incredible memories from family get togethers,

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expert expertise, but I was saying an a tease as he's got both. Yeah, uh huh. Of bringing up Jalen Waddle, who is one of his winners. Nine catches for 99 yards on 12 targets against the Jets. And Rashad White is his other winner. Huge game for him. 109 total yards, two touchdowns. But yeah, what do you make of it? Wait, just real quick. You said Rashad White is where now going into Sunday night?

I think he's already three or four. And Puka's Y01. Both haircuts. New trend. They bought haircuts? They both had haircuts. Yeah. Rashad White cut his hair and Puka cut his hair.

And I'll note that I believe you and Heath have both cut your hair this week. Yep. So I had a haircut too. Everyone but Adam. I mean, Adam hasn't shaved or had his hair in weeks. All right, what do you have to say about Waddle? 50% started today. I mean, look, it's now two of three games where he's had, you know, Jalen Waddle type performances and Puka. Two was playing great, you know, over the last

four weeks. So it might just be time to buy back into Jalen Waddle. You know, I don't think you're going to start him as a top 24 receiver, but certainly in three receiver leagues, you should feel definitely confident in starting him again. And this is just I think they haven't been running the ball very well lately. You know, I thought they'd have a little bit more success doing it today. It's just he has he has still that in his bag to get hot and play at this level when they decide to feature. And that's always going to be the case, I think if they give him the opportunities and the targets look John who disappeared today, but but he came through at the huge time for the Dolphins. So that's just, I think the type of offense that we're dealing with where there's going to be,

you know, somebody left out maybe on a weekly basis, but you got to be encouraged by Jaylen Waddle. If you somehow made it to the playoffs with him on your bench and you could be struggling with a flex decision or wide receiver decision based on injuries. Like this is, okay, maybe I got somebody now. Tell me if you agree with this assessment. The dolphins are going to throw the ball a lot for three straight games at 40 or more past attempts. I don't want to rely on that, but they're going to throw the ball a lot. Great. Tell me if you agree with this assessment. I'm not done. I'm not done. Jerk. All right. Okay. That assessment. Okay

Dolphins are gonna throw the ball a lot H. Anne is gonna get his eightish targets Tyreek Hill is going to get his targets and then it's either gonna be John who or wattle Yeah, I guess the the Patriots game is probably one you look at and say Well, both John who and wattle got targets that game. Yeah. So I just think it's, it's, it's, it's just encouraging. You know, that, that's all. It's nothing like you could say it's concrete. You know, Dave's theory has been pretty tried and true of when the run game is working and Devon H.Han is doing this thing, like Waddle has been a disappearing act. So if you think the run game is going to get going, then maybe that's something you worry

about a little bit. But if you think two was thrown the ball 40 plus times, which is probably going to happen, then there's the potential for, you know, eight targets a piece for those guys. All right. How about Rashad White? What do you have to say about him? Obviously, to say one last thing about the Dolphins, I'm sorry to interrupt and I'll be quick.

HN was out for part of this game. And I wonder if waddle saw an uptick in targets then. And then obviously you brought up the John new thing. If they each got eight targets per week, I think we'd all be pretty happy with Tyreek waddle and John. Yeah, for sure. Okay. Shad white. Yeah. I mean, I guess he's a must start as long as Irving's out. It's her look that way, you know, and again, you're talking about a great matchup. Their schedule, we know is favorable to close the season.

I do think that what we've seen, you know, aside from last week against Carolina, they both have been startable. You know, granted we've had bye weeks, we've had situations where, you know, running backs have been in and out due to injuries. But prior to last week, while Bucky was averaging or scoring 15 points per game in like five of his last six, Rashad white was pretty consistently above 11. He just had to been disappearing act in the passing game, but he's had some touchdowns over that stretch.

Like there's been reasons to start them as at least a flex. So clearly a Bucky Irving is out. You go back to him as a number two running back, maybe more depending on what the week looks like for your team. But clearly there's a path to league winner here. Bucky has to miss time. This team has been very good running the ball, you know, whether it's been Bucky or this week week Rashad White. And so you got to like the setup for them moving forward. Okay. Dave's winners are Darnell Mooney and who you already

talked about Brock Purdy, but Mooney with seven targets, he caught six of them for 142 yards at Minnesota. He's at Las Vegas next week. There were some moments where Drake London was in sync with Kirk Cousins on timing routes. There were some moments where Drake London was in sync with Kirk Cousins on timing routes. There were some moments where the Vikings defense was in sync with Kirk Cousins as well. But I thought Mooney was the one who was most in sync on timing routes downfield against the Vikings. And it's the Vikings, right? They give up a ton of fantasy points to wide receivers.

Here's who Atlanta has moving forward. The Raiders, the Giants at home, and at the commanders in week 17. And even for good measure, Carolina at home in week 18. This is a great schedule for Atlanta. We're still going to think that they're still in the playoff hunt and Bichon's going to get his, but I think Garnel Mooney can finish the season strong. This was encouraging to me that cousins threw a lot, threw for a lot of yards. Mooney had the majority of them and he's in that conversation to be a top or wide receiver the rest of the way.

Top 24? Yeah. Okay. Neighbors. Sorry, you cut out a little bit. You rather have Mooney than neighbors? Yes. Okay.

Something wrong with his mic. It'll come back, don't worry. It's happened sometimes. Heath's winners are Adam Thielen, who's gonna be very popular on the waiver wire. Nine catches, 102 yards on 11 targets at Philadelphia. This is two straight games with 99 to 102 yards on 10 or 11 targets for Adam Thielen.

He's only 51% rostered. And Juwan Jennings, who started in 61% of leagues and came through. Every wide receiver that gets eight or more targets against the Bears has a big game. He had eight exactly. He had a big game way before eight, but he had Juwan Jennings, seven catches, 90 yards,

and two touchdowns. So you got Thielen and Jennings here. Yeah, and I think you just, I mean, you almost have to look at Adam Thielen in that close to top 24 range. We've seen him function as the number one wide receiver in this offense when he's been healthy with Bryce Young in the past. And he's clearly doing that again right now.

He did it against a very good Eagles defense here and came through and he has a very favorable schedule in the fantasy playoffs. So definitely a must add. If you're in a three wide receiver league, I. So definitely a must add. If you're in a three wide receiver league I would call them a must start and if you're in a two wide receiver league you might need to. Okay sounds good. Losers. Heath your losers were Elijah Moore who I guess you would probably dump for

Adam Thielen. Closer to Elijah less this week yes, or is it Elijah fewer? No, I would absolutely, you're thinking about it now. I would absolutely, I would dump him for Adam Thielin. Yes. They're about rostered right around the same amount of leagues. Right. And he had a couple of opportunities. One of Jameis' bad picks was an overthrow of Elijah more in the red zone that

could have turned into a touchdown if he'd hit more in stride, but it's just, he's not getting a lot of the downfield targets and that kind of feels like what you need to do with Jamis right now, the way he's succeeding. Kenan now, I'm sorry, would you consider holding onto Elijah more because of the matchup at Cincinnati in week 16? 1 billion percent. 16, not 15.

I'd like to hold onto him, yes, but who is Thielen playing next week and who's Moore playing next week? Because I don't really get to think about week 16 matchups if I don't win week 15. Totally fine. I don't really care who Thielen plays next week. He just had these numbers against Philadelphia, but just FYI, it's Dallas at home, followed by Arizona at home at Tampa Bay in week 17. Yeah. So I'd still rather have Thielen, but I'd like to have a lot more also. Sure. Oh, I always knew Thielen had it in him. I'm a big fan of 31 year old receivers.

Old is gold, baby. Dave's losers are Braylon Allen. All right. He's 80% rostered and 46% started as opposed to Isaiah Davis, who's 6% rostered and 4% started. Uh, so Braylon Allen was a loser for you. They had about the same amount of touches and Deandre Swift started in 69% of leagues. He was a loser for you. He had 15 touches for 40 total yards. A terrible game at San Francisco.

San Francisco is a good run defense though. Um, but yeah, what do you want to say about Braylon Allen and Deandre Swift? We'll start with Allen. 40 total yards, a terrible game at San Francisco. San Francisco is a good run defense though. But yeah, what do you want to say about Braylon Allen and DeAndre Swift? We'll start with Allen. I think a lot of people thought that he would dominate playing time for the Jets. It was pretty much a 50-50 split as far as snaps go.

But Isaiah Davis had the high value snaps, nine of 12 on third downs, four of four snaps inside the 10. That's kind of nuts and surprising because when you look at Brailen Allen, the dude is built like a brick house. And I think that he's you'd think that he would be the one used near the goal line. It was Davis. Plus, Davis had the explosive run for the touchdown.

I think these two are going to take away from each other. And we don't know if there's a report that Breesall might play in week 15. So I brailing out someone that I'm happy to roster, but I don't know how much confidence I would have in him even if he were to start next week without Breesall in the field. And then just the Bears offense, just more of the same. DeAndre Swift, not great. Matchups coming up, Minnesota, Detroit, great for the receivers. Might be great for Caleb Williams. I'm not going to want to trust the Andre Swift. I'm not sure if he is a top 24 fantasy running back the rest of the season. And Jamie, your losers are Alvin Camara, who we discussed and AJ Brown, four catches for 43 yards on four targets. He actually did lead the team in receiving against Carolina. It was not a good day For Jalen Hurts and if you he was a great fantasy day for him, but what did he throw for he threw for 108 yards

Against Carolina, so I just want to say I read the AP recap of this game and The recap was basically like the the locker room was somber after this win and the offense, the passing components of the office, AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, Jalen Hurts, Nick Sirianni, they all talked about how disappointed they were in the passing game. They're going to emphasize getting this thing going if they can. But terrible game for AJ Brown. What do you want to say, Jamie? I mean, you said it.

Thank you. So it's just frustrating to be in the AJ Brown camp right now because you have such high expectations. It's almost like what we were talking about Friday with Amar and St. Brown. You have just these superstar receivers that you know are capable of huge performances. Their offenses are playing great. You have legitimately two of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

You have two offenses that have been two of the best in the NFL. And you have two teams that are very good at running the ball also, which is hurting their passing games and their superstar receivers. So I think the thing that's frustrating is you have to start him every week. You have to expect big performances. And when they don't come, it's just you get this sour taste in your mouth. So hopefully there's better days ahead for AJ Brown.

And like you said, they start to feature the past game a little bit more. You've had a sour taste in your mouth five of the last seven weeks with AJ Brown. Right. It's just, you know, we, I think we had this conversation a couple of weeks ago, like who are the guys that you're starting no matter what. And clearly he's one of those guys. So you just, you know, like you would never say I'm starting Darnell Mooney over AJ Brown. I'm never starting Joanne Jennings over AJ Brown. Like we're not we're not there yet, you know, with sitting him. Is it that crazy to start Joanne Jennings over AJ Brown? I'm not doing it.

Ideally, you would start. I don't think it's I don't think it's crazy. But, you know, again, like he's not hurt. He still has great matchups. He still has the potential to go crazy. You know, I mean, and we, you know, it's great that Joanne Jennings did this. We've had a month of Joanne Jennings not doing this. Not really. I mean, Joanne Jennings is an absolute money with Brock Purdy and either

Debo or IU Cal. Yeah, I guess you take into account the snow game. Other than the Bills game. Yeah, right. The Brandon Allen games. I mean, they're both, if I had them, I'd start both. But I just want to say, so this is the AP recap, like this is pretty opinionated for an AP recap. Hertz didn't do enough to get, well, I'll fast forward. He took four sacks. He held the ball too long as open receivers ran with their arms up trying to get their quarterback's attention.

So just an off day for him. Yeah. You know, they play the Steelers next week. The Eagles do. Yeah. Um, you know, they play the Steelers next week. The Eagles do. Wait, who do they play? Steelers. It's just, I would get so tired of this if I was Jalen Hurts. We get it. It's a game of the week. Good. Move on. I would get so tired of this if I was Jalen Hurts. Of what?

Tired of what? Again, he's what? 11 and three. He produced three touchdowns today. He's one of the winningest quarterbacks since he entered the NFL. And it's almost nonstop. Yeah, but he's not actually that good.

He's not actually one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Last week, I think it's just, it's so tired. Who's saying that? There one, well, no, we're just, we're talking about how awful the Eagles like Jalen Hurts is. Well, he was. He was today. But no, I agree.

He's put under a microscope. I have heard a lot of criticism earlier this year that he wasn't playing well. I even read one of it on the on the show. It was some I forget who was some famous like film guy. I don't want to miss, you know, Miss Eisenberg, Jesse Eisenberg said that Jalen Hurts was missing like on easy concepts, just like not doing very simple things for a quarterback. I've heard it a lot. He's not good when he's in the pocket, this and that. They are very critical.

They almost ignore the things he's great at and criticize him for the things that he's not as good at. So I understand where you're coming from, Heath. But today, I think the criticism probably fair to throw for 108 yards against the Panthers. All right. That's it for our winners and losers. And almost touchdowns, we had Tony Pollard had a touchdown call back on a hold. Malik Neighbors came up a yard short of a touchdown.

Xavier Liggett nearly had a 32 yard touchdown. Tyreek Hill drew a pass interference in the end zone. He gets a lot of end zone targets, Tyreek Hill. That one won't even count as one. And then on the next play, or two plays later, Devon H. Chan scored a rushing touchdown. Jalen Waddle came gets a lot of end zone targets. Tyriko, that one won't even count as one. And then on the next play or two plays later, Devon H and scored a rushing touchdown. Jalen Waddle came up a yard, a yard short of a touchdown. Jordan Addison came up a yard short of what would have been four touchdowns. Uh, Philadelphia actually tried to give

Seguam Barkley a one yard touchdown run and it didn't work. So then they just went right to the tush push and they scored there. So Marcus Robinson had about a 50 yard catch called back. Wasn't a touchdown, but called back on a pretty bad offensive pass interference call. Nick Westbrook Aquine, he dropped a touchdown, would have been a short touchdown, only a second catch of the game, but he did drop it. It was not an easy ball. And I think that was the last throw of the game, right? Yeah. No, no. Yeah. Basically their last throw. That was going to be an impossible catch for him.

No, not really. He had his hands on it. It was a tough catch. The one like on fourth down and near the end zone. Yeah, all right. And then like the last second of the game. Was it? Thought it was like the last minute.

All right, let's take a break. We'll get to the games when we come back after this on FFT. Oh, welcome back, funny Probo. Apparently I was wrong about Addison. He came up a yard short of a touchdown, but then he caught one. So still managed that touchdown on that possession. Thank you for correcting me.

Phil and Alfie at 22, Carolina 16. Well, we pretty much got this one, but Chuba Hubbard back to being. He has to be. Yeah, must be. Yeah. Must start. Okay. I mean, there's no Jonathan Brooks

to take work away from him. I think that played a role, the injury of Brooks being out. And then he had 26 carries. It was a competitive game. Could we have said that this was a trap game for Philadelphia, knowing that they had Steelers

and then divisional matchups the two games after, maybe they overlooked Carolina a little bit as the one before. So they played the Ravens and then the Steelers. Yeah. Carolina hasn't been that bad. No, I think Carolina deserves some. They lost by three to Kansas City. They lost an overtime to Tampa Bay and they lost by one possession and they almost won. I know it's going to be under 10 points against Kansas City. Every game is under 10 points. But they, I think they're, I think they're a solid team now. I mean, well, they're not a pushover anymore. No, they're not the Giants.

Exactly, they beat the Giants in overtime. All right, Devontae Smith scored and Grant Calcaterra scored. Devontae Smith was started in 66% of leagues, but he had six targets. I'm moving on from this game. Let's go to Minnesota 42, Atlanta 21. Kirk Cousins, single digit. What?

Bench him. Oh, bad for panics. Yeah. They should but they won't. Well, no, they're still in the race for the division. But that's why they won't. Is anyone buying Ray Ray McCloud? Anyone interested in him? He had 11 targets in this game. He said three solid games in a row, three double digit PPR fantasy point games in a row. I mean, since cousins is having trouble throwing down the field, yeah.

Yeah, but like you're not really gonna pick them up in any of those. I mean, look, 14-week, 16-team league, he's absolutely in play for those formats. In 12-team leagues with no teams on a buy in the playoffs, nobody's gonna start him. But look, all right, right. And it's hard to overlook.

We've got Aaron Jones probably going to be a starter next week against the Bears. He just scored 20 fantasy points against them a few weeks ago, and he's had a good game today. Anybody want to elaborate on Jordan Addison? I think we I think we owe it to him. He's been playing great. He's been getting targets lately. Sam Darnold has been amazing. Like, he's certainly the, on the cusp of a starter in two or three

leagues, he's the most star guy in three or three leagues. They talked during the broadcast about how even Jordan Addison, when he talked to them during the week said he understands how much easier his job is because of Justin Jefferson and maybe at some point, like that stops becoming so true and things get a little bit easier for Justin Jefferson. Well, like today, 70% of artists are every week. So we think we'd rather start him than Malik neighbors, right? If they're both getting the same amount of targets, one's catching passes from Donald,

one's catching passes from Drew Locke. I know going into the year that would be like, okay, who cares? But obviously, you know, with the offenses that they play in and the teams that they play for that matters I mean one scoring touchdowns. Yeah, and what isn't yeah It'll be week to week for me probably and In the Giants offensive line played so poorly today and they lost to start two more starters Horrible TJ Hawkinson on the other hand is- They understand the assignment, Adam. You should be rooting for us.

I was so happy. Are you kidding? I was thrilled. Thrilled. Lose with dignity. That's all I want. And cover. And they'd cover.

Good job. That surprised me. Speaking of which, it's our next game. New Orleans 14, Giants 11. Well, what's your confidence level in Tyrone Tracy? He had a huge game. He had 10 targets inrone Tracy? He had a huge game. He had 10 targets in this game. He had a great game.

Mustard. Yes. Low end RB2. Yeah. I agree with both of you. He's a must start, but he's definitely in the back half of the RB2 range. Terrible rushing average against the Saints. Yeah.

That's, that's an ugly look. Ten targets in a game drew lock through 49 times. That's probably not gonna happen every single week. But the thing that I like, he played over 80% of the snaps. So whatever dog house he might have been in because of that fumble a couple of games ago, he's roaring now. Parking even.

And I don't know that he's a must start against the Ravens next week though. Jamie thoughts. That's fair Okay, the Ravens give up a lot of PPR They give up a lot in the passing game the running backs, but it's hard to expect good rushing from Tracy next week. All right Daniel but Daniel Belanger had a good game which I mean in the deepest of leagues Theo Johnson was basically doing this five for 45 on seven targets. It's somewhat interesting, but remember, Drew Lock threw 49 passes in this game. Jacksonville 10.

And oh, by the way, I saw a stat on the game. He was the first quarterback to start O of eight since at least 1991. That doesn't seem like, doesn't it seem like Daniel Jones would have done that. I was surprised too, but maybe it was the first Giants quarterback. I think it was the first quarterback period to do it. It was back Jacksonville 10, Tennessee 6, another big one for the Giants. Yeah, go Jags. They're only two teams with two wins now. How stupid can you be? Will you stop?

You know, you shut everyone down and you want everyone to lose. These guys are competitors. They want to win, Jamie. I mean, they're so stupid. What do you want them to do? Just lose? Lose.

They can't all just like, they can't, it's not like our, oh my gosh, Heath. I was ready to send you a text message that you had an illegal lineup in our dynasty league Oh because you had Justin Fields and everyone else on a buy you scored zero points. It was hilarious That that currently has scored 1.1 is protected to score 2.2. I scored 0.7 today So I was so happy you did that too because I was tied with someone that you were playing. And so now I'm gonna have the fifth pick

instead of the sixth pick in that league. Look at that, you know what, Jamie? Not everyone can be like the baked burger diet is the league, you can't all tank. But speaking of tank, Dave, what do you think a tank bigs be with a good game today? He had 18 carries, 55 yards and a touchdown. I don't know what to say about that.

He not a good rushing average, not good efficiency played 52% of the snaps had a minority on high value touches. ETN played more on third downs, more inside the 10. He just, he scored a touchdown. I don't know how often that's gonna happen. What's the conversion rate on that? Like 3.1 yards per carry against the Titans is equal to what against the Jets next week? 3.8.

3.8, yeah, 8, 9. So if he gets 18 carries and averages 3.8 yards per carry next week, might be a pretty good week. They're gonna get the memo next week and lose story It's a big one cuz they're gonna I think they have the same record right there both three win teams It's a big one for the Jedi Wars Weren't the Jets the team that accidentally won at the end of the year to give Jacksonville? Yeah, maybe Jackson was like we don't want that to happen again. We're just gonna win They could add Sam Darnold.

That was, it was Darnold, right? No, it was Trevor. It was Zach Wilson. It was the Trevor Lawrence here. The Jets ended up with Zach Wilson. That's not, yeah, that's really worked out poorly for both teams. Brian Thomas Jr. Okay.

We're going to love, we're going to like be excited about Lawrence next year. If they get a different coach, I predict. Yes. Oh, I'm sure. And I'm going to have a field day. It's going to be the most fun preseason. Bring it on. Brian Thomas Jr. had a slow start. He came on strong and he had eight catches for 86 yards. He started him and that's pretty much it. Matt Jones is actually better for him than Trevor Lawrence was. Worse for Ingram though. Ingram 4 for 33 on six targets and then just a horrible game for Will Leves.

I mean, what do we make of this? First of all, hey, Calvin Ridley. I get like a six yard A-dot. Is Will Leves okay? He took a shot. Yeah. Oh, at halftime it was awful. Yep. Well, I mean, this was such a good matchup and they came up so small. But this is the Will Leves experience because he, what we bought in, we said, okay, he's

playing better. It gets Jacksonville. Good body replacement, you know, might have an opportunity to help you. Then he gets Cincinnati next week when no one's going to start him because everybody's back and he just had this crappy game and he's going to go for 40 fantasy points because the Bengals are that bad. That's exactly what's going to happen. He is AFC, Caleb Williams.

Tampa Bay, 28, Las Vegas, 13, and Baker Mayfield scored about 25 fantasy points through three touchdowns. But let's talk about Sincere McCormick, 44% roster. Dave, you've been pretty sincerely- He had an almost touchdown too. He did, did he? What was his almost touchdown? He got tackled at the one. I? You got to tackle it the one.

I think you got to tackle to the one like three times, maybe. Yes. He had some struggles inside the five. I mean, he had almost every carry for the team. So 15 for 78 and two catches for 11 yards and he gets Atlanta next week, but he's 44% rostered. I think he'll be, he'll be popular on the waiver wire. He'll be popular on the waiver wire. He'll be a good bench running back. Maybe if you're desperate for a running back, you can turn to them and start them against Atlanta next week, but it's Desmond Ritter the rest of the way

for the Raiders and that's, I, it's hard to think of a downgrade from Aiden O'Connell to anybody, but here we go. This is a downgrade to, for Desmond Ritter. And it could change how defenses play them and it could mean less efficiency for McCormick. I'm sorry, I don't want to derail the show, but Jonathan. It's so funny.

Jonathan, I got to shoot a three in my last high school game. We were losing in the state playoffs by 15 points and the coach said, go ahead and shoot a three. I was the exact opposite. I had 16 rebounds in one game and I didn't shoot a three until my last game of high school. Did you make it tell you as a, as watching, watching all of Heath's practices as a coach,

he emphasizes rebounding more than anything. All right. So Baker with a, with a good game and Rashad white was great and Mike Evans was not, that was pretty surprising. He's not getting it. Is he? No, no, like 95 yards per games. I think, but remember what was it? He had like three years ago, he had 180 yards or something in the final game. Yeah. Three years ago he was 28 and it was Tom Brady.

And then Antonio Brown got hurt in that game, as I recall. And then, uh, I'm not, I'm not betting against him. Does anybody want to talk about Sterling Shepard or Jalen McMillan or Kate Otten? No. Okay. Well, I was better. I was 10 PPR points. McMillan had the two touchdowns.

I don't think you should chase that at all. Pittsburgh 27, Cleveland 14, the game of the week. Yeah. Jamis 19.3 fantasy points. Russell Wilson had pretty surprising. I'd have to say for Russell Wilson to score 20, what did he score 20 on the nose with the two touchdown passes without George Pickens.

All right, Heath, major takeaways from this game. I thought you nailed it. Like it was surprising that Russell Wilson was that good without George Pickens. It was, I was pretty disappointed in Najee, but I guess he was okay. I was pretty disappointed in Najee, but I guess he was okay. I was hoping for better. I think they'd be a lot better off the Browns

if they would just play Jerome Ford a lot more. They started to do that. He was in on the second drive as their main running back and he played more than Nick Chubb in the game. That's the second week in a row, right? Yeah, I mean, this is what's gonna happen when they're trailing is you're gonna see less Nick Chubb in the game. That's the second week in a row, right? Yeah, I mean, this is what's going to happen when they're trailing, is you're going to see less of Chubb and more Ford. Wasn't really Ford's best game, though, right?

I mean, 10 carries for 28 yards. No, he wasn't particularly good. He just looks better than Chubb. Yeah, Chubb doesn't have the explosiveness anymore. Hopefully, he has next year. It is funny because we spent eight weeks, seven weeks of, I can't wait to see what Nick Chubb looks like when he comes back, because this drum forks things.

And now Nick Chubb's back. Yeah, hopefully they play four more. Well, it's kind of like the rating. Did Najee get banged up in the game? Not that I'm aware of. I thought Warren played a little bit more than normal. Snapshare says that Warren did play more than Najee in the game, but that was last week too though.

Third downs that go on. I'm sorry, that was the first Brown game too. Not last week. He may have got, he got dinged up in one of the games recently, but okay, Najee, it's weird, if you just look at his game log and his catches, he could be from the zero to five and you're just no predicting

it. I think even at six last week, it's hard to predict zero catches. He even scored a touchdown this week, but he had zero catches. So it wasn't a great game. Rushing touchdowns. You know, you go back to the I think it was the game before the Saints when Taysom had the three rushing touchdowns, they just give up a lot of short yards touchdowns. Someone says they rested. Naji I don't know if that's true, David, you want to look at the fourth quarter snaps,

maybe that'll provide some insight. If Pickens is out again next week, maybe you need a tight end. I didn't realize Friar Meath is 79% roster, but he did catch a touchdown. Miami 32 and the Jets 26. This one went to overtime and John New Smith, one target, no catches and regulation, three catches.

And what they say said 44 yards in the touchdown in a overtime. So it was a great, great game for the dolphins. Good game for the start of the week to a tongue of Iloha. And, um, how about the jet? A good game for the jet. Yeah. Heath, you want to talk about the jets? We spent a lot of time talking about them this week.

I was just saying it was nice to see Garrett Wilson and Devonte Adams both be good in the same game. They play, they play Tampa next week? Jacksonville. Jacksonville next week. Must start. We'll start them both next week and feel good about it. Aaron Rodgers is maybe an okay streamer as long as he can do it in the first three quarters because he gets tired late. I hope, I hope Breeze Hall's back. But I do think like in a full PPR league, I'm probably starting Isaiah Davis over Braylon Allen next week if Breeze Hall's not back. I think they're both borderline stars.

Yeah. So I think one of the one of the stats that really stood out to me when we talked about the Jets was just how bad Aaron Rodgers had been. And over the last three weeks when Garrett Wilson had been bad, he'd been averaging something like 150 yards per game. And I said, if you can just do what he did in the first nine games, get me 230 yards per game. That's not a ton. Then they can be all right. Well, he came out and he threw for over 300 yards today, 339. First time in 33 starts, right?

Wow. I didn't know that. All right. let's go on to Seattle 30 in Arizona 18 and Jamie this you know is good call on DK Metcalf right? You had him outside your top 30. He had four catches for 49 yards on six targets. But are you know he's never had 60 yards receiving against the Cardinals in his career. It's crazy. Are you going to have more faith in him against Green Bay Minnesota at Chicago and. Are you going to have more faith in him against Green Bay, Minnesota at Chicago in the fantasy playoffs? I have more faith than I did today, but it's clear that JSN is their best receiver. He's certainly the best fantasy receiver.

And you know, look, Gino played better today. You know, I don't think anybody's going to trust him moving forward as a must start quarterback. But you know, when we start to talk about the guys that we were mentioning with neighbors, I mean, Mooney feels better than DK Metcalf right now. Jennings feels safer than DK Metcalf right now. And then maybe Jaylen Wall does also. Like, Metcalf still has the potential

to be a difference-maker, but is his health 100%? You know, like, he tried to all the guy on the sideline. It looked bad, you know, like it just didn't look like the same athletic dude that we were typically used to seeing. He's been fighting through the shoulder injury, fighting through a knee injury. Like, I just don't know if he's a hundred percent. It's so weird because like what we saw earlier from JSN was we might get a lot of targets, but the targets to fantasy point rate wasn't great.

The last two weeks he's had fewer targets than DK, but he's all of a sudden making big plays and scoring a bunch of fantasy points. I don't feel real comfortable with that whole Seattle passing game situation. Do you feel comfortable with, does anyone feel comfortable with the Cardinals passing game situation?

Trinidad's gonna see 12 plus targets. Feel pretty comfortable with that. Yeah, next week they get going to see 12 plus targets feel pretty comfortable with that. Yeah. Next week they get new England. I mean, Kyler had a good game. He scored 22 points. He didn't really have that great of an IRL game, but in our, in our world, he had a good

game. I don't, he seems like one of these players where it's, I don't know. Does that, do you guys feel like you have a handle on Kyler Murray? No. I'm starting him next week. I don't worry about the Patriots. I think he's on the Will Levis spectrum. He's just much better.

But still, like what he's going to do on a week to week basis is completely unpredictable. It's not just next week. It's New England and then it's Carolina and then it's the Rams. Yeah, it's good. Uh, nice pass back. I mean, that's the problem is that like, he can have these favorable matchups and he can still struggle. How many of these games are going to be high scoring matchups where he'll have a shot at three touchdowns? And it used to be, well, if we could just get him to throw some passes, you know, more than 30, then he'll be good. And today was the case, but the two previous games, he threw 30, 37 points

and scored 10 points at Seattle, 37 passes. He threw 45 passes and scored 17 points at Minnesota. So tough. James Connor with a nice bounce back. And who do you guys trust more going forward? DK Metcalf or Marvin Harrison Jr.? DK. Probably DK, but I think it'll be week to week. It's definitely week to week. And if DK looks as injured and not like his old self, then I think Marvin's the answer. Buffalo 44 and the Rams 42.

What a game. And 57.9 fantasy points for Josh Allen. And Jamie, what on earth? James Cook after last week where he was so good, he scores 4.9 fantasy points in a game where the bill scored 42 points. That is crazy. Just one of those things you can't make sense of, right? You know, I think you're going to go back to him weekly.

He's still got the upside as we saw last week to be a superstar. I wish they used him a little bit more in the passing game. I don't know what his targets were today, but that's sort of been the missing link for the season. It's Ty Johnson at a great screen that scored a touchdown. Just another frustrating thing, you know, put it in the, the Alvin Kamara, A.J. Brown, you know, Amara St. Brown, you know, canoe,

and just hope for better days moving ahead for one of the better running backs in the league. Yeah. Ray Davis, did Ray Davis play? Did I miss something? Was he in? 22% of the snaps. He did not have a touch.

In fact, there was a sick three-way split between Cook 46%, Ty Johnson 31% Ray Davis 22% tie Johnson dominated third downs tie Johnson dominated inside the five apparently I said that the Rams that the Bills won the game 44 42 was the Rams 44 42 sorry about that, yeah, they said on the broadcast that they are going to use Blake Corum. So if you're a Kyron manager and you're getting frustrated, they just have overused Kyron Williams, he's obviously still

their guy and he had a great game today. But there might be times where he's just not on the field when you want him to be because they have to give him a little bit of rest. And how confident are you in Cooper cup? Because he, it didn't come easily. He had a great game, but it didn't come that easily. And last week was a bad game for him. So how confident are you in Cooper cup moving forward? I think you're still starting Cooper cup.

Um, he's not going to be a top 12 wide receiver for me. Pooka is so clearly the number one option and the best wide receiver. And there was a time in this game where it felt like, Oh my gosh, Pooka Nakua is going to score 35 fantasy points and Cooper cups, not going to be a good start somehow. Um, but he did it. And Stafford's playing outstanding right now. And so you're going to keep starting. I mean, just a number two wide receiver instead of a number one.

Who wins the division? Seattle. I agree. They have no idea what Seattle schedule is. Yeah, that's that. Another schedules. Um, but San Francisco, Minnesota, Chicago Rams, that's Seattle's. But San Francisco, Minnesota, Chicago Rams. That's Seattle's.

That's Seattle's. Oh, that's hard. Good luck. Oh, what's the San Francisco's is San Francisco has Rams, Dolphins, Lions, Cardinals. They might not win another game. I mean, next week's game is huge. Obviously, whoever loses the Rams Niners is pretty much done next week. Correct.

What's the Cardinals' sketch? New England, Carolina Rams. But they're last right now, right? They're last right now and Seattle has the tiebreaker over them. If they finish with the same record, Seattle has the edge. Seattle's winning this. Seattle has a two game lead over the 49ers or a one? Two.

Two. Yeah, two. One game over the Rams. Hmm, all right, I'm gonna give it to Seattle. I think the Rams, now you can say the same thing about the 49ers, I think the Rams though would have won the division already if Pucco and Cooper Cup were healthy all year long.

Right. But yeah, if every team were healthy, I think the Niners would. Yeah, it's fair. All right, so does anybody have anything else to say about San Francisco 38 and Chicago 13, our last game? And we have sort of throughout the show talked about most of the pieces in this game.

I think the run back situation is certainly interesting. You know, if, if Grendel's got to miss any time. He looked good though. When he, when he did play, he looked really good, loved his, uh, deep catches and targets in the passing game. And obviously physical runner was good in the short yardage situations. I just hope he's okay. If Purdy puts that ball in front of him, he has a touchdown. Yep.

But he scored in that play, didn't he? He was scoring that on the catch. Yeah. Um, De. He was scoring that on the catch. Yeah. Debo, Dunbo. And Dropo. Do you know? A lot of nicknames there to be very negative on Debo Samuel. He doesn't look the same.

He needs a haircut. That's what I learned today. The only thing I learned today. And that's it for today's show. Thank you so much, everybody. We got beyond the box score tomorrow. Well, we're, we're, we're a little recap, Chargers and Chiefs and FFT dynasty, FFT express. We are everywhere. And you are hopefully in the playoffs. See you tomorrow on Fantasy Football TV.

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