Fantasy Football Today - Week 15 Recap: Trevor Lawrence, Patrick Mahomes and RB Injuries, TreVeyon Henderson and More (12/14 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Kicking off the show with our biggest winners (3:00) and losers (7:10) from Week 15. TreVeyon Henderson and Trevor Lawrence had huge weeks, but can we bank on them in Week 16? And what the heck happened to Joe Burrow? We've also got news and notes (11:15) and our reaction to the Patrick Mahomes injury ... Early waiver wire (18:30) and more winners (21:10) including Tyrone Tracy Jr. and Jacoby Brissett and losers (21:50) including Quinshon Judkins and Ken Walker ... Recapping each game (34:10) with our Fantasy thoughts ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. All right, everybody. Hope it's been a fun and good, productive Sunday for all of you and hope you are, you know, on the way to moving on in your fantasy. Playoff matchups.

Adam Azer and Heath Cummings here on Sunday night. Fantasy football today presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary. One of us, or two of us? There's one analyst right now. There will be three. There will be a four-man show pretty soon. But Heath, a lot on your shoulders right now.

You good? No, I, you know, I've already received some text messages of, like, consolation. Like, I'm sorry. Like, what are you talking about? Like, it's been seven straight years of complete dominance. And we just think that the Chiefs were going to win the Super Bowl every year? Like, it's fine. Who cares?

He tore his ACL, man. What? He tore his ACL. He'd be fine next year. He'd be fine. All right. He's a quarterback. Yeah, that's a real bummer.

The face of the NFL. It was a real bummer, yes. tearing his ACL, it was tough. Yes. So it'll be Gardner Minshu the rest of the way for the Chiefs who have been eliminated from the playoffs. All right, we have to talk about a ton of games today. So let's get into the biggest winners and biggest losers. Who's the biggest winner?

You know, I think that there were a lot of good choices this week. It was a week of winners and losers, but I want to highlight Trayvion Henderson because he tried to win the dang game by himself. Just phenomenal, two long touchdown runs, looking like the player that we thought he was when he came into the NFL. And it's still a committee. It's going to be frustrating. But they can't, like they've been.

been it's he's done enough to prove it to even mic brable that you can't keep this in the box any longer he is traeion henderson well let's see where he is among running backs this week he's number three believe it or not behind just behind Travis etienne who caught three touchdowns and james cook who scored three touchdowns but it's 14 carries 14 yards two touchdowns plus two catches for 13 yards remandre stevenson today had only six carries and three catches So 14 of 20 carries between the two of them is outstanding. Travion Henderson is the second player in NFL history. There's a lot of like prepositional phrases here.

To have two games in one season in which he had two 50-yard touchdowns or longer. I think he's good. The first one was? I'm going to say Ken Walker. Chris Johnson. Okay. All right. So Trayvion Henderson.

is your big winner and he gets Baltimore on the road next week. You think he's a safe start? I think we will start him as an RB2. And I want to apologize to the crowd that I missed this morning's YouTube stream. Just saw a comment in the chat that Dan is to rapid fire what Drago was to Apollo Creed. And that 100% checks out. I saw 0% of the show, but that sounds exactly. right. Yeah, I was like, Dan, you cannot tell this story right now. You can't do it on Sunday morning. All right. My big winner is the guy who scored the most fantasy points of any player this year. And it's Trevor Lawrence. And I love the quotes after the game. Travis E.T.N said, I won a national championship with Trevor Lawrence. I've never seen him play this well. Lawrence said he feels so as confident as he's ever felt. And it just kind of feels like they've faced really easy competition over the last three weeks.

at Arizona, Indianapolis at home, and the Jets. But it also feels like this offense is really clicking. So he's definitely a winner. Big win for you. But he's just,

no. You got to wait on these guys for six years. You never know when they're going to finally reach their potential. And Trevor Lawrence has come into his own must start QB. No,

at Denver next week. I don't think I can call him that. But if you get to week 16 or week 17, part of me he's got the Colts on the road and he's just playing really well he made a throw today he made a very similar throw last week but he rolled to his left he threw on the run like kind of across his body but down the sideline to Parker Washington hit him in stride and he got hit as he threw it was a great play Jamie is here what's up Jamie how are you good your mic settings please investigate can I make a request to the chat just to make me feel a little better yeah

can you guys tell me who you started over Trevor Lawrence this week because I started Marcus Mariotto over Trevor Lawrence, started Jalen Hertz over Trevor Lawrence, and neither one of those felt very good. You can't feel bad about the Hertz. Well, I mean, if you lose by, if the guy you set scores 20 more points than the guy you started and you lose by less than 20, you feel bad about it.

That's the way this game works. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Mario, I get, but you couldn't bench Hertz for Lawrence. And Hertz had a great game. We've got Beyond the Box score tomorrow. It's just going to be me and Dan. I'm sure it'll be real close. quick. And I'll send out a tweet on Sunday night, as I always do. Who do you want to hear

about? We'll talk about whoever you say. Biggest loser. Jamie, who's a big loser today? Who's a big loser today? I forgot how I sent you already. You sent me Stefan Diggs, who ran 55% of the routes, had four targets, three catches for 26 yards. And I don't know what happened to Joe Burrow. He was your other loser, 5.5 fantasy points against Baltimore. You know, this got some questions about the borough press conference this week, and, you know, should we trust him? And I was like, yes, I mean, he's going to play. If he plays, you're trusting him. He looked miserable out there today, you know, and the first interception that was tipped by Jamar Chase.

The second one was just an awful throw. They just looked completely off, and he looks like he wants the season to end. And so I hope he plays in week 16. I hope he takes advantage of the Dolphins defense. I hope that anybody who... I mean, I started in about 10 leagues. And I think I'm going to get lucky in advance in most of them because of the rest of my roster.

But, like, I'm terrified. I'm terrified right now. Like, I hope T. Higgins plays. Like, there's just a lot of ifs right now. It just, it was rough. And in the case of Svonne Diggs, like, you know, we have the three weeks sample. I think it's three weeks now of just him being completely terrible.

And I don't know how you could feel comfortable, comfortable starting him against Baltimore's weekend. Nope. I was big Diggs fan this week, and that's, I'm wearing a dunce cap for that. There's no evidence to suggest he's going to have a good game. Joe Burrow did talk after the game, and he said, you know, earlier in the week, Jamie was alluding to, he said he's not having fun. He said, quote, my comment, this is after the game today. My comments had nothing to do with Cincinnati.

My comments had everything to do with me and my mindset and football. So he's dealing with something right now. Hopefully he can work his way out of it. He said, I think this is one of the worst games that I've played. I'm honest with myself and my play and I hold myself to a high standard and today didn't come close. All right. So big winners were Travion Henderson, Trevor Lawrence, big losers, Joe Burrow and Stefan Diggs.

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take apart the Titans defense, right? You know, I think he played really well for all but one of his plays. Yeah, it's, I think that based on what we saw in a very limited sample, size, Travis Kelsey might still be okay. Did he throw three passes? Four? Four? And I think all but one of them went to Kelsey.

Five. Okay. I think it'll be good for Kelsey and you're going to start Rashi Rice and you don't want to start any Chiefs running back anyway. And I would probably just leave it at that. You guys might get the 12th pick in the draft. I hope they take a running back. Do you, or offensive line, do you, do you, do you,

think this is the end of Kelsey now? I don't know. Like he's, he had the terrible game last week, but for the most part, he's been better than he was last year. And he said that, like, he may put in a lot of work to get into shape for this year. So it'll be interesting to see he goes and gets married and I guess probably just see what his wife wants him to do. Whoever she is.

So do you guys think Rishie Rice is still? You think he's going to be a top five receiver, top 12 receiver? 15. Okay. I think for next week you've got to be still encouraged because of who they're playing. Yeah. But it's not as good. And he has to have taken three of the worst hits I've seen in the last two weeks.

Like hospital balls just looks like he's about to die. And by the way, your hair looks really good. Thank you. I appreciate that. You know what? It's really not bad. I appreciate that. Can I ask you a question, Adam?

Because I think everybody wants to know. I'm just really curious. Who do you have left in the Scott Fish Bowl? Oh, boy. I have Aaron Rogers. Yeah? I mean, does it matter? I'm not moving on.

That's what you're. You're 28 points behind the cut line. Oh, really? Okay, well, who do I have left? I think everybody would like to cheer for your team over the next. I got this, bro. I got Lamb, Rogers, and Addison. Okay.

Yeah, we got a chance. After the way today went, I wouldn't say you've got anything yet until it's not. You got a chance. No, I got a chance. I've got a 16 point cushion with deck, but I think the score probably goes up 40 in the next two games. Yeah, all right. My son yesterday said about his playoff matchup, he's playing against Baker. And he's, and he just saw what Baker did.

He's like, oh, I got this. No worry, no problem. I go, don't ever say that. Don't ever say that. All right. Running back news. And guess who he started. He started, bro.

A lot of running back news. Zonovan Knight left in the first, immediately, basically. Michael Carter got most of the work They get Atlanta next week Woody Marks left with an ankle injury in the second quarter but apparently he could have come back in the game

and they get Las Vegas next week Can Dave address the Woody Marks thing? Yeah, let me just go through I got 7 million tweets about it Let me go through the news and notes Then we'll talk about that Because he scored on a fumble He recovered a fumble

And then he scored And you may not have the points for it We'll talk about that R.J Harvey left with a rib injury That was super late in the game Jaliel McLaughlin is the backup there I don't have any update on Harvard Devin Neal left with a hamstring injury.

They used Audrick Estime a lot in this game. Evan Hull as well. Bejel Tootin left with a finger injury, and those are your running back updates. Christian Watson, chest injury. He was ruled out immediately, so that's never a good sign. Tyquon Thornton Concussion Protocol.

Ricky Pearsall limped off in the fourth quarter. Van Jefferson left with an injury. Tyler Lockett, and then obviously one of the biggest ones is probably the biggest Devante Adams. So Sean McVeigh said that Adams was optimistic after the game, but he acknowledged it's going to be tough for Adams to get back at Seattle on Thursday.

And that also is going to make us, it's going to be a really tough call with Matthew Stafford in this matchup, I think. Well, I don't know. It's going to be tough-ish. Gunner Helm is the only tight end I saw that left with an injury. He had his best game. On the offensive line, we got Washington left tackle Laramie Tunsell, Kansas City right tackle Jaylon Moore and Cleveland Guard, Kevin Jenkins, and the big defensive injuries,

Micah Parsons with the knee injury and linebacker, Kuwaiter, Walker. I'm not sure if Walker came back, but he limped off for the Packers. A couple of injuries on the Baltimore defense. It's about it. A couple of Jets, defensive backs left with injuries. They didn't play any defense today anyway. All right, Dave, real quick, what's the... You said Parsons, right? I did say Parsons, yeah.

We didn't know what it is yet with Parsons, do we? It's a torn ACL. I thought it was ACL. Officially? It's not official, but... Yeah. It's the latest report is that it's a torn ACL. Also, Christian Watson was taken by ambulance to the hospital.

Ricky Pearsall says he's going to need imaging on his knee. I think it was his knee. So kind of a blood bath today, and it really accelerated with the 4 o'clock games. Yeah, it really did. So we can address the Woody Marks thing. The one that I didn't mention Pook and Nakua, he left, but those are cramps, so Pooka's fine. He came back in. Yeah.

Dave, what's going on with the Woody Mark's Sitch? So he fumbled and then recovered his own fumble for a touch. That's not a carry for a touchdown. That's an offensive fumble recovery for a touchdown. If your league counts those and awards six points for that, you're going to get credit for it. Just be patient. It will show up in your scoring system. If your league doesn't, take it up with your commissioner.

Technically, it was a snap that bounced before it got to him, right? He didn't fumble. Yeah, it wasn't his fumble, was it? Who was it? I don't think it was C.J. Strouds. I think it was C.J. Strouds fumble, technically. It doesn't matter. I think it was a direct snap to Woody Marks that hit the ground.

Basically, yeah. It was a wacky play, but you should get the points, but they haven't been showing up. So we're thinking tomorrow. They will. Yeah, they will. So give it time. Get in good night's rest.

I will make sure they show up if your league counts them. Okay. I understand everybody was freaking out about that, of course. Yeah, no question. The one league I have Woody Marks going today. Our commissioner did not enable the fumble recovery for a touchdown. I know you're always on the wrong side of this, but you agree that that should be six points what Woody Marks did, right?

Of course, yeah. 100%. I don't know what kind of commissioner wouldn't agree with that. Right. Except for you every other time we've talked about this. No, no, no. I'm in on that. All right.

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There's Minchu, obviously. What do you think? Minchew certainly comes to mind. You have to see which of the Rams receivers that you'll want to trust, whether it's Whittington, right, Jordan Winnington, or 2-2-Awell. I think Kobe Parkinson has to be considered two touchdowns again. today and you know going to benefit if Adams is not there um we got to see about this luther burden injury because burden is still available in some leagues and so if O'Donze

is going to be out with the foot injury you know burden somebody that you're going to want to gravitate toward um demarcato I guess going against the falcons was Michael Carter who got most of the work I just wonder how that will so yeah well a Cardinals running back Let's just put it that way. Sure. Cardinals running back there. Jordan for the Texans, you know, depending on Marx's injury or Chubb, you know, if Chub's going to be back.

So that's something left to keep an eye on there. Yeah. Those are the ones that stand out right now. Yeah, it could be a busy week. I remember with at-law. I know who people will be dropping. Who? Isaiah likely.

Like that true. You know, that was one of the weirdest games. When you look at the box score, let me pull it up here, Baltimore and Cincinnati. Baltimore barely had the ball. They ran 40 plays. They had the ball for 20 minutes and 41 seconds. They threw 12 passes. Who saw that coming in this Baltimore, Cincinnati game?

Very strange. All right. St. Flowers should have had two touchdowns. Yeah, you should have dropped one. By the way, Parkinson, unofficially, because sometimes the true media notes, their stats could be they change a little bit when like the game just ended but when I saw he had almost all of his production with Adams off the field not necessarily after the injury only one target after the injury I don't know what people are laughing at but

Dave was great there um whatever okay I've distracted now winners and losers Heath you at Trevion Henderson we can't always laugh at Dave when he's talking when you're looking at to chat and find something funny. Sometimes we got a laugh at you when Dave sees that sounds funny. Did I do something? He's the little emoji that's next to him. A little gingerbread man.

That's great. All right. Heath, your other winner was Jacoby Brissette, who's still 75% rostered, 18% started. Star percentages are a little wonky right now. But hey, 26.5 fantasy points against Houston. Yeah, I think a lot of us, including

myself, because I benched him, thankfully, for Brock Purdy, so it worked out. Thinking that this Houston matchup was too tough for him, and he has just shown us repeatedly over and over and over against some of the best defenses in the NFL and now against the best, that no matchup is too tough for Jacoby Percette. The man someone once called Fantasy Poison

is actually Fantasy Superman, and a must-start quarterback that's going to lead you to a fantasy championship. You know, I don't want to say this, but the irony of all this will be is that he'll have another great game against Atlanta and then he'll poop to bed against the Bengals in the championship game. You know, I think this was a couple of years ago

when I called them Fantasy Poison. What I met was poison for your opponents. Yeah, you really like starting. Yeah, Dave, your winners are Tyrone Tracy, Jr., who has only started in 18% of leagues and had a great game with two touchdowns and 97 total yards against Washington, and he dominated the carries.

And C.J. Stroud has scored 12. 29 fantasy points against Arizona. I think Stroud could be a fantasy starter if Woody Marks is hurt and the Texans run game is a huge question mark moving forward. I thought he, I mean, they played Arizona, so obviously super easy matchup, but Nico looked like a megastar. Dalton Schultz had the type of game that we've been kind of hoping for for a long time. They've got the Raiders next, chargers after that.

I think if you lost Mahomes and you saw Stroud on your way, Everwire, you'd feel really good about having him. And if Strudger backup quarterback or your number two could be, you're going to love having him too. Tyrone Tracy was dominating the playing time. 76% of the snaps, 9 of 12 snaps on third down, still not getting anywhere near the goal line. But who needs the goal line when you're getting 15 carries,

three catches, totaling almost 100 yards, a couple of touchdowns. It's a terrible, I mean, it's an easy matchup. It's the commanders. Their defense is terrible. They've got Minnesota next. Raiders in week 17 you're going to love starting Tyrone

tracing at least one of those games maybe even both of those games All right and Jamie your winners are Jalen Hertz bounced back nicely and scored 28.9 fantasy points and DeAndre Swift who was awesome 18 carries 98 yards

two touchdowns one catch for negative two yards against Cleveland Hertz and Swift obviously two guys we had a lot of questions about going into the fantasy playoffs It was great to see Hertz bounce back and, you know, look like the guy that we were hoping to see all season. And very good matchup in week 16, so you're going to be happy about that. And in the case of DeAndre Swift, I mean, you think about this Packers defense now losing Michael Parsons

and how that matchup may go just from a defensive standpoint. They looked a little shell-shocked after that injury there. But Swift, you know, kind of, you know, pushing Kyle Monongai to the side was, I think, a good confidence boost for. his value. So, you know, two guys that I think you, if you advance with, you got to be excited to start them in week 16. How did that go for them, Dave? Did they share, did they split series? They did. I don't know if they split series, but I've got the totals from the game. It's 55% for Swift. Monagai had 44% of the snaps, 10 of 13 on third down, four of seven inside the 10. I mean, Swift's just been better. Not that Monongai has been bad or anything, but

Swift's just been better. Today, Mongeye was. Yeah. Typically, he's pretty good. All right. And then we go to the losers. Jamie's were Diggs and Burrow. We talked about them.

Dave was Ken Walker. And you were right about him. I thought maybe he'd have a good game here. Colts have been struggling against the run. Walker was horrible. Nine carries, 17 yards, one catch for two yards. And Isaiah likely did not get a target. So go ahead, Dave.

Ken Walker and Isaiah likely. I'm like angry over. for both of these. Walker just, again, 1.9 yards per carry looked absolutely awful. Charbonnet led the way in snaps, had plenty of high value touches. I don't know what's happening with Ken Walker

or why any human being would be optimistic about starting him in fantasy. It's a short week against the Rams. Rams allowed a touchdown to David Montgomery. Jemir Gibbs was held in check. I'm definitely not interested in starting Kenneth Walker anytime soon. And we kind of touch on what happened with Isaiah likely,

the fact that the Ravens barely had the ball. I think he played like 15 of 35 snaps, something low and not even a single damn target. It's almost as if the Ravens prepared all week for this game and had absolutely no freaking clue how bad the Bengals. Like, what did they do? What did they do all week where they couldn't recognize what we see and what the rest of the universe sees?

Bro, they won 24-0. The Bengals, they stink against covering tight ends, and they didn't, did they run the ball really well? Or is it just the Bengals offense just giving them all kinds of opportunity? They averaged 7.9 yards per carry. Yeah. Okay, so they ran the ball really well. And I guess when you do that, you don't have to throw that much. Mark Andrews didn't have a big game either.

And you said it, Adam, 12 pass attempts for Lamar Jackson. He was kind of a bum as well for fantasy, good for the Ravens. But yeah, man, everybody's going to go and drop Isaiah likely, which means next week two touchdowns. Isaiah likely bank on it. Did you see how many plays the Ravens ran? Yeah. Yes, yes. We have mentioned that.

40. Yeah. Like it wasn't a, like I guess Isaiah likely should have had one or two targets based on the target percentage we were expecting. But it was just, like they ran 40 plays and threw 12 passes. I think if you. Bengals had the ball all day. Just couldn't do anything with it.

If you had Lamar Jackson, right, he scored something like 18 and a half fantasy points and six point for passing touchdown leagues. I understand you're frustrated, but he had a 114.6 passer rating, and he ran two times for 26 yards. So I don't think you should...

And had a drop touchdown. Yes. Probably should have been perfect. Yeah. I don't think you should go, I have to sit Lamar Jackson next week. I think they have New England, which is not easy.

But he's not... But again, I didn't watch much any of this game, basically, but he probably played pretty well. Heath, your losers were Breeze Hall. We were not feeling it with Brees Hall. He was worse than expected, though. And he was pretty much splitting with Isaiah Davis too evenly throughout the game. And Quinshawn Judkins, who I think was even worse than Brees Hall.

They had very similar stat lines. They were both awful. Absolutely atrocious. League losers, I think, was the best way to talk about these two RB-2s that are like RB-7s. Hall, it's more discouraging the fact that Isaiah Davis had such a high percentage of the touches and was better with them because you can have no hope that that will change next week and Judkins like both the two guys that we thought he might share with both out the two guys who have been stealing all the passing game work well no

wonder they don't throw to quench on Jenkins yeah they threw it to him four times and it turned in like six yards uh yeah and they have another offensive and also I think like just to put Judkins in context, and I think Shador as well, and Fannin's efficiency, their offensive line was just a joke of an offensive line today. It was atrocious. Well, I mean, it helps when you're not. It helped last week that they're playing the Titans. Right.

Yeah, well, they get the bills next week, right? And that's been a great run matchup. The Jets have the Saints next week on the road, so you don't have to worry about weather. So are we thinking we're going to be back to trusting Judd and uh and hall i again hard to say trust and if you advance with those guys so let's just say what he marks is out and chubb is out you're going to go with jordan over those guys probably not against the raiders i did jamie just i don't know if you heard me say it earlier if you saw this but they demico ryan said that um what he marks could have come back in okay but he's he's

in the blue tan every week, you know, so who knows how, how this, you know, continues. But sure, okay, so take that scenario. I don't know. I'm trying to think of like a running back scenario here. Well, if you have Ken Walker and Bruce, I mean, the thing is, I think if you have Ken Walker and Bruce Hall or Ken Walker and Roman, or Quinn John Judkins, you're probably not playing it. Yeah, you're probably not even watching this video. Well, I mean, I'll give you, I'll give you a scenario. I don't know how this Pittsburgh game is going to unfold. I have a buy in our podcast league and two of my three players that I play at running back and flex are Bree. Bruce Hall and Jalen Warren, and I don't know what split's going to be like with the Steelers. And I don't have enough players in a 14-teen league to sit Breece Hall. Yeah. Well, Breece Hall has been very match-up dependent. So it'd be nice if they get to Rod Taylor or Fields back next week, but they've got a much better matchup this week than they, next week than they had this week. And I guess if T.J. Edwards plays do not start running back against the Chicago Bears. All right.

Those are your winners and losers. and... What happened he? Just tell us. Javante. Javante Williams. Yeah, all right. Okay.

Some goal line work. Nothing really major here, I think. I think one thing that was cool was Kairn Williams. You know, he's been sort of splitting at the goal line, depending on whose series it was. It was Kairn, was Blake Korm, whatever. Blake Korum had a carry from, I think, the four-yard line, got down to the one.

Not cool if you're a Kora manager. Then Kiron came in, and he scored from the one-yard line. So that was a good usage for Kyron Williams, although they both ran wild against the best, arguably the best run defense, or the team that gave up the fewest fantasy points to running backs. Almost touchdowns. We had Brian Thomas Jr. dropping a touchdown. Zay Flowers. Dallas Goddert.

He had two touchdowns today. He could have had three. Darius Slayton dropped a touchdown. I didn't think it was the greatest throw. My Giants, fans, friends disagreed. Jerry Judy nearly caught a touchdown, but he ended up batting it to the defender for an interception. Tedaroa McMillan kind of almost had an almost touchdown. I don't even remember the play now.

He got targeted near the end zone. The throw was a little behind him. Matthew Stafford, Miss Terrence Ferguson for an easy touchdown. Troy Franklin nearly had a touchdown, and then Little Jordan Humphrey caught a touchdown on the next player, two plays after. Josh Jacobs, great game for him. He had a touchdown run called back.

He could have had a third. That was on an illegal shift penalty. Please tell me you, sorry, Jacobs. I did. I sat Kyron. for Jacobs, so probably pretty much a wash. Also, it was the third option? Woody marks?

Woody marks, yeah. There's no T in Little Jordan. Did I say a T? He said Little Jordan. He was big Jordan today. He was great. And Cincinnati wide receiver Mitchell Tinsley dropped a touchdown, and then Joe Burrow threw an interception one or two plays later.

Colby Parkinson's first touchdown should not have been a touchdown. No. I actually think they got it right. think he was juggling it and didn't have control until he got in the end zone. Where does that rank on your least popular opinions expressed today? At least I would say I'd like to see it again because I think they may have gotten it right. I should say that. All right.

So I think we'll talk about this on Tuesday or Wednesday. But I put out a tweet that said, Romo Dunezai, we got the notification that he was not going to play at like 1255 or 1257. And I said that commissioners should allow the guy who, the manager in the league who started O'Donzee to replace him. And it was not a well-received tweet. But we'll talk about that some other time. Yeah, no, I did the same thing. You agree with me? Yes, but we are apparently the only site that locks at $12.55.

Yeah, I think it's before kickoff and someone says, please, like, take Adunze out for me. Oh, if it's before kickoff, yes, I think your tweet was after kickoff. No, my tweet was before kickoff. Okay. Because I typed it right after we got off. People probably saw it after kickoff. Yeah, they did. I love these, these, these, these, these shots at Dan.

Dan has a strong take on the marks play, even though he didn't see it. Oh, man. All right, everybody. We'll be right back after this to talk about all the games. Yeah, we'll start with Houston 40 and Arizona 20. Trey McBride, Fantasy MVP. But Heath, anything else from this game? Is it time yet to where I can do some of the believe it or nots for 2026?

I don't think so. You don't think it is? No, I don't think so. That's going to be difficult then. Jacoby Brissette is the waiver wire ad of the year. Stafford was not drafted. Right. Like that's the guy standing in his way.

But I think if you're just taking the sample. size of when Brissette took over versus Stafford. As good as Stafford has been, Brissette has probably been better. Yeah. So I think what I'm going to do is because I write those award

stories at the end of the year, I think I'm just going to make it a 2QB super flex thing and just put them both in. Nice. Nice cop out. If you have any other tough choices, be like, I'm just going to keep adding flexes.

Can. In a triple super flex. I mean, for you, Adam, to call McBride, the fantasy MVP, it's got to be a tight and premium week. I don't think so. Because he's been probably better than any wide receiver since Jacoby Brissette has taken over.

I'm pretty sure he is. Oh, yeah. At one point, he was like the sixth best running back in fantasy, something like that, something absolutely crazy. We could look it up now, too, but it's probably more apropos to do it on Tuesday after all the games have been played. No, it's open.

He's averaging almost 20 ppr points per game. It's open for debate who the MVP is. The stretch, though, beginning with Preset starting, is legendary right now for Tray McBride. Dalton Schultz, you guys are going to trust him next week, Las Vegas. They gave up the touchdowns to Goddard,

but they've typically been pretty good against tight ends. And what do you think about Schultz, Jamie, next week? I mean, it's hard to get away from what he's done, the majority of his run here, two bad games in his last now seven. So five of those games,

he's been 11 or more ppr points. Like he's at worst, a low end starter. He's at best, the top five guys. So I think if you have them on your team, you're starting i think people who are running back hell next week dave are going to really consider michael carter he had 18 touches they're playing the falcons it's not going to be an easy call but what do you think right now it's it's not a bad call assuming that right or night excuse me is uh is done demarcato probably going to hang in that passing down's role i think that's what he

basically did today and uh it's it's play out the string time for arizona by the way like i i know that he talked about Jacoby Rosset and he's undeniable and all that stuff. His two touchdowns came starting when the Texans were up 30 to 7. So a little bit of a garbage time king, which we will take happily in fantasy football, especially for a team like the Cardinals,

that's going to be dealing with garbage time pretty much every single week. But that's why. Like, we're going to go back and look at the numbers for the Texans at the end of the year. And they'll be even better than what we actually see

because they allowed so many points in garbage time in games. games including today. But they typically don't, though, because their offense usually doesn't run away from teams. So, like, as good as their defense was against Mahomes and against Allen, like, those games were close. Sure.

Yeah. But today it wasn't, and there was garbage time to be had. But this is just a rare situation. Like, Baker's, when he has a good game against them. I'll tell you what. I think there's going to be a lot of garbage time next week, except I don't think the Raiders will take advantage like the car. Right.

Yeah, yeah. All right, Buffalo 35, New England, 31. What a game. Josh Allen just got in the zone. Heath, anything here? You know, I think Remandre Stevenson is still a good flex, even as excited as we are about Trayvion Henderson. I might believe that in a non-PPR league,

and it's a little bit easier to buy into because of all the injuries at running back and all the position is kind of a hellscape right now. I might like starting Remandre over Ken Walker. Yeah, I think I might too. Yeah, I mean, that, but, that's where we are with Walker. Jamie, you talk about this all the time, how you don't like to look at Snapshare, because it can lie to you. A player can play a lot, and it doesn't mean that they're going to get a lot of work.

Ramadre played 67% of the snaps today to Trevion's 49. They were on the field a ton together. It was clear in the first half anyway that the game plan for the Patriots was to run the ball a lot. They did not do much of that in the second half. Romadre played all the third down snaps, so that's still a role that Trevion's not getting, but at least Trevion played inside the 10. Everybody's going to race to start Trayvion. I get it. Ramadre is still going to play a decent amount. I don't hate him as a flex, I guess is where I'm coming out on this.

I think just from what he is saying, we just got through saying Judkins, Hard to Trust, Brissol, Hard to Trust, Ken Walker, Hard to Trust. We'll evaluate everything going into this week because some of the matchups and how they sort of shake out and we'll see what's happening in tonight's game with Minnesota and Monday night's game with the Steelers. But, like, Stevenson, there was a stretch where, you were, and I think, you know, we talked about this this week. Like, could you start both Steelers running backs as low end number two running back?

We lost you. Is that his mic that went out? Yeah, we lost Jamie a little bit there. Jamie or Mike went out, bud. Can you hear me or no? Yeah, but you're quiet. You're like you're 100 miles away. I don't know what happened.

You're good. You're back back. The matchup next week against Baltimore, you can run on the Ravens. We saw that with Somaget P. Ryan and Chase Brown. They had the ball a lot. But I could see Stevenson as a low end number two running back this week, him the situation. Let's a couple more questions about this game.

How confident, Heath, how confident are you that Travia, because we've been fooled before, right, against the Bengals, he had 18 carries. Next week he's basically even with Ramandre. How confident are you that Trayvon Henderson is going to have two-thirds of the running-back carries next week? Zero percent. I do not think that's, that's why I just said I think Romandre is a good flex. I would expect it to be relatively close in terms of the total number of touches these

two running backs have. It's just that Trayvion can average six yards to carry, and Remindre averages three and a half. So one of them's an RB2 and the other one's a flex. Last thing here, guys. Bills are at Cleveland next week. Are you going to downgrade Dalton Kincaid because Dawson Knox has been a thorn in his side for two weeks in a row.

Dawson Knox had 17.3 fantasy points last week against Cincinnati, but today he caught two touchdowns. Jamie, is that, is that bothering you with Dalton Kincaid? the bills just have no consistent pass catchers right now. So I think whoever's open, Josh Allen, is finding them. So Kincaid will be in that low-end starting range. Look, it's a Brown's defense. You wonder where they're at now that Miles Garrett got his sack record.

Like, they looked bad last week against the Titans. I don't know. I think you just sort of say, if Dalton Kincaid is my starting tight end, I don't know if I'm going to the waiver wire to replace him with Colby Parkinson, for example. Yeah. All right. I'm right. Next game.

I don't know how much passing the bills are going to have to do. Yeah, I know. And I say that they may not have Devante Adams and they're playing Seattle, which usually stinks against that end. So that's probably a bad comparison. But he'll be a low-in-starter. Joe Johnson might be on. That's a bad example, too.

He's already rostered in too many leagues. We'll find some other tight ends as we move along. All right, Baltimore 24 and Cincinnati Zip. You tried to steal this one, but you didn't quite do it. Go right back to Lamar Jackson as the top eight quarterback next week. against the Patriots. Yes. Top eight, yes, top five, no.

Okay. On the other side of the ball. What do you make of the... Dave, what do you make of the Chase Brown-Somage P-Rine split? Chase Brown did have seven catches for 37 yards, so he ended up with a good P-PR game, but he actually had one fewer carry than P-Rine, 13 for Brown, 14 per P-Rine,

and it wasn't really a garbage-time thing either. Did P-Rine 4? finish the game. Oh, I don't know. Yes. He did come back in. Okay. So if he's back and it's still going to be a split list, it was basically a 60, 40 split today with P. Ryan working a slight advantage on third downs, Chase Brown working inside the 10. Cincinnati's got a lot to fix on offense. So I'm, I'm going to be okay with Chase Brown as a number two running back. Ever since Somaget P. Ryan's come back, it's been hard to like fully trust Chase Brown. Before this week, it was, it was easy to do it now it might be a little bit harder just because we've seen a game where

P. Ryan's playing so much also and I can double check this what did it look like in the fourth quarter because when the Bengals are in hurry up mode I think that's more P. Ryan anyway and that could be why P. Ryan had so many more, had so many more carries than we're used to see. No, the carries in the fourth quarter were not I mean the playing time may have been but it wasn't like they were getting blown out and he had five carries at the end. It wasn't like that. They both were playing you know, deep into the fourth quarter. Key Ryan had seven, fourth quarter carries for 12 yards. Brown had four for 16.

It's still pretty even. I think it did play into it. But that's, okay, fine. Then in the first three quarters, he had two more carries than Pryan. You know, it's still pretty close. All right, moving on. Next game.

Chargers 16 and the Chiefs 12. Chiefs didn't really have the ball for that long, 25 minutes and 18 seconds. Bad game for Herbert, 12 fantasy points. Bad game from a Holmes. 12.5 fantasy points and obviously the torn ACL. Heath, what do we got? The playoff-bound Los Angeles Chargers

do not have one single player on their team who should be ranked as a starter in week 16. Double-checking who they play. They've got the Cowboys. Man, that's going to be tough. But their offensive line is horrendous. It was a second that Herbert would hold the ball and the Chiefs were like,

right on them and i think that offensive line is so bad that even the cowboys can get some serious pressure on them so i'm i'm i'm kind of leaning towards you heath i feel like it's going to be i think it's going to be tough to trust any chargers player next week or the weekend yeah yes sorry javanti show what happened givante williams has a shoulder injury not my week so we'll see he might come back sorry we shouldn't do that in the sunday night show Anyway, yeah, Heath, it's a great point. It's like, you know, you think you're going to rank, you guys think you're going to rank Hampton in your top 24?

I didn't this week. Nope. I didn't this week, other. I think, you know, looking at how, again, we'll see how Dallas's game finishes out, but their run defense, aside from the Lions game, since acquiring Quinn and Williams and Logan Wilson has been amazing.

Yep. So it's tough to say that Hampton is going to be trustworthy. I do think that, you know, you look at potentially still McConkey. I know it's not coming off a good game, but Dallas has just been so bad against wide receivers and potentially still Gadsden, too. Like he had a solid game. Yeah, Gadsden made some catches. The snap flip that we thought we were going to get between Hampton and Vidal didn't happen,

by the way. It was still 63% for Vidal dominated the high value touches. Hampton 37%. And Hampton had a big run. that saved his rushing average. All right. We talked about the Chiefs earlier on in the show

with Gardner Minchu. Although it's worth noting that Kareem Hunt only had six carries and Isaiah Pacheco at 11 and they both are averaged about two yards per carry. And Philadelphia... Very Ken Walker-esque.

Yeah. The play I thought that ended the game for the Chiefs was I don't understand why you're throwing to Kareem Hunt on that play. Oh, the interception? Yeah. Yeah.

Philadelphia 31 Las Vegas zero yuck the Las Vegas Raiders with their two top 24 picks do not have one single player that you should start in week 16 against the Houston Texans so we're sitting

Barack Bowers it's the that's the only one I can get away from Gentie I say that knowing that like running backs don't grow on trees you might be right we've now gotten away from Gentie Judkins. Right. Three tall.

The Recharge of running backs. But not Romandre Stevenson, this is bizarre a world. I'm going to definitely start Brock Bowers next week.

So I don't believe it. I would love to know the record for total yards in a game, fewest total yards because they had 75 total yards in this game. That's like,

my goodness. It's insane. The good thing they fired Chip Kelly. It was really all his fault. Amazing. You did call them Barack Bowers You did say Barack Bowers It was pretty funny

For me? Yeah I did You said we're really sitting Barack Bowers You sound like Paul Heyman there I don't know who's Paul Heyman You don't know who Paul Heyman is Is he another person who looks like me or something

No he looks at you will be happy That he does not look like you You would wish that you were as smart as him Or as cleverer I know who he is. You're pretty clever. I know who he is. On the eagle's side of the ball.

On the eagle's side of the ball, any takeaways, J.B. He had got her with 17 targets in his last two games. And we saw a stretch like this in weeks five and six. He had 20 targets. And then he had six in the next two games combined. So are you getting to the point where you feel like you can trust Dallas Goddard at Washington next week. Absolutely.

Matchup is fantastic. So your question previously about Dalton Kincaid, I'd rather start Goddard over Kincaid. Anybody picked up Isaiah likely in advance, you're going to start Dallas Goddard if he's available on waivers because people dropped him or if he's on your bench and you made that decision. So it's now two solid games, like you said earlier this season.

It was a great stretch run for him. So he could easily disappoint you, but that's the position. So I don't think I'm going to get to the point where I'm studying Barack Bowers. Dallas Goddard over Brock Bowers, but it's going to be close. Okay.

And unfortunately, Devante, look, they barely threw the ball in this game. And there has not been a single, there's been one game, one game all year where Brown, Smith, and Goddard all had double-digit

PPR fantasy points. It's almost certainly not going to happen and it did not happen today because Smith had only two targets. I mean, next week could be amazing for them. Should be amazing for them. You hope 15 pass attempts for James. Jalen Hurts, 12 for Lamar Jackson.

That's just kind of strange. All right. To the next game, Washington 29, Giants 21. Bill is back. Great game. 18 carries, 96 yards, and a touchdown. Not against Philadelphia. He's not.

Not if Chris Rodriguez comes back. Well, although a game like this, especially in a commander's win, might give him a little bit more run. At this stage of the season, if you're the commanders, why wouldn't you play the kid? Oh, I think there's reason to be optimistic about, you know, to Cory Crosky Merritt, but you're going to do that against the Eagles in your fantasy semifinals? Well, if Rodriguez plays.

I've got him and Ken Walker. If Rodriguez plays out, I'm ready. This is not the first time we've seen Jacori Crosky Merritt as a feature back. He was so bad. But this is the single... I saw a graphic on the game today. The Giants are currently the second worst run defense in terms of yards per carry.

I don't know if it's NFL history or 40 or 50 years, but they're almost historically bad. And they probably got even worse today per carry. So it is the best matchup in the world ever. Or maybe second best. Yeah, so you've got to be hopeful for Jones or Mason next week.

Yeah. Oh, for sure. Not so much for Kroski Merritt, especially if Jalen Carter plays for the Eagles. Yeah. Like the last time Kroski Merritt did this was against the Chargers. What was it,

week six? I don't remember. It feels like a year ago. And then he did nothing for two months. Yeah. Okay. So, look, it's a good question, Heath. I mean, he...

Thanks, that's what I was going for. He always looks good. He looks good when he gets going. Anyway... I'll say this. If Bam Nights out, I'd rather Michael Carter over both. Terry McLoran, only four targets,

but three catches, 69 yards, and a touchdown, as he pretty much always owns the Giants. We talked about Tracy. Wondale caught a late touchdown. To be honest with you, I really did not, I did not think Jackson Dart played all that well, and it's going to be tough for me to trust the Giants passing game next week against the Vikings.

I don't know how you guys feel about that. he's a different animal just because of what he'll still do with his legs but trust no low end starter at best yeah and he scored 25.3 points it was a good day for it good day for him yeah he's only had one bad fantasy game which was last last game for him week 13 all right moving on to chicago 31 cleveland three i'm sorry did we skip the giants no we just talked about them You talked about Bill is back.

Yeah, but I said everything. And then you might have blacked out. I thought you were going to talk a little bit about Theo Johnson and Wondale Robinson being a top 10 wide receiver on the season. Is he really? Wide receiver 9 and total fantasy points. Oh, my gosh. Wow.

That's a candidate for Waver Wire pickup of the year. Jamie. Wondell, yeah. Yeah. How about that? He's so good. He'll be the third flex. I love him.

He's definitely behind Michael Wilson. is he yes really I get it Michael Wilson's Superman but only for four games

Wondell's like the the the super dog like you know he's good but yeah all right Cleveland in Chicago here Chicago with the blowout win 31 to 3

Wondell's like Green Lantern like he's you know fine I know nothing about Green Lantern Jerry Judy is the worst football player in the NFL. Oh my gosh. I've never seen a player

get as many opportunities as he's had. He completely destroyed Joe Flacco's start to the season. Just drop after drop after drop. Now he's trying to run Shador Sanders' future. Just a disgusting

season with all types of opportunities. Jeez. You didn't start him today, did you? no okay sounds like if that is over and you didn't even come out with anything on Fanon

that's such a great comment to chat what Dana would say Greenlander's better than Rocky I'm just like did everybody answer the blue or not

I don't think you gave one yes Jerry Judy is the worst football player in the NFL I don't believe it yeah I think that's probably a stretch but when I saw Max Brosmer or play four quarters.

What do you think about Harold Fannett? 14 targets. Seven catches for 48 yards on 14 targets on 35 pass attempts. It must start tight in. Is he a non-PPR two? Against Buffalo, though. We got Buffalo next week. Buffalo is going to be tough.

But I mean, as Jamie was just saying, and I mostly agree, I'm probably not finding a streamer to start over Dalton Kincaid. I'm certainly not finding a streamer. to start over Harold Fanon. And I'm not starting Dalton Kincaid over Harold Panan in the same game. I would try to sit Fanon next week. The less catches count for the more I'm interested in sitting Fanon.

Sit Fanon on his fanny. Caleb Williams with 22.3 Fanis, DJ Moore. That was cool. But Luther Burden actually was not cool at all. Luther Burden led the team in receiving. Like what in the world is cool about DJ Moore, doing that in week one of the fantasy playoffs after last week when absolutely nobody started

him like all it was was terrible it just made people angry something happened to heath with this game really set him off well sure his one of his loves from this year at a bad game and his love he didn't have a bad game he had oh jerry judy had a great game i was a good game plus he kind of gets a pass for everything because of what happened to the chiefs today that that first throw It should be your, the first touchdown past the DJ Moore should be your example of why you love Caleb Williams or. I was actually going to tweet that. That was insane.

Yeah, that's why I say he has the best arm in football. You talk about the one where he rolled to his right and through the back of the end zone, like 30 yards? Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing. I think Jerry Judy's closer to the worst player in football than Caleb Williams is to the best arm in football. Really? I strongly believe that he is absolutely in the discussion.

I think very few quarterbacks can make that throw. He fires that ball. in there. Yeah, I don't know. So, starters said Caleb Williams next week against Green Bay. I don't want to talk to us. No, Michael Parsons.

He was decent against them the first game, 18 fantasy points. That's true. He's a low-end starter. Him or dark? Let's see how this game finishes tonight. I might go Caleb, though.

I mean, Bo Nix just threw for four touchdowns against this Packers defense. That's a good point. Fired up for that game on Saturday. That's going to be awesome. Jacksonville 48, Jets 20. Great call, Dave, on Trevor.

Yeah. I think we all liked him, but you were very bullish of it. Thanks. Believe it. Believe it or not, you can start him next week. Heath, I'm stealing your bet. I do not believe it. I have been burned by this at least two times this year

where there's a quarterback that's just playing red hot. going into a tough matchup. We all know it's a tough matchup. And he lets us down. And so I would, I would totally downgrade expectation at minimum for Trevor Lawrence next week. He's playing great.

His receiving course playing great. Brian Thomas looked pretty good. But I would be, I'd be nervous to trust Lawrence next week against Denver. It's a big game in the AFC too. Yeah. All right. Who's starting to.

I know they gave up 20 points, but the way the Jaguars defense is playing is fantastic, too. So we could see a low-scoring game there. Anyone starting to feel it with Brian Thomas Jr.? Yes. Well, it can't get any worse than it was at the start of the season. So this was encouraging to me because you had Parker Washington back. I was a little bit concerned that Washington playing,

but we get a little bit of regression. But I think for two things here. One, I don't know how many people still playing, have Brian Thomas on their rosters because of where he was drafted. in the unfortunate year that he had. But if you did advance, and we're talking about a starter in three or silver leagues,

yes, two or Cere leagues, he's going to be on the cusp. But certainly if you have him in Dynasty and Keeper Leagues, like this is what you want to see. It's a strong finish, and then you could be encouraged by him going into next season.

I will finish this game with this question here. Go ahead, Dave. You give your thoughts. I've just encouraged by the last two weeks from Brian Thomas. I thought he looked great last week. His numbers were better this week. I didn't watch enough of him this week to know

just how amazing or average or whatever he was. but I think it's encouraging that he's tied for the team lead in targets. Deacon Shaq says, Heath, if you were stranded on an island and you could only have Dan, Adam, or Jerry Judy with you, who are you choosing? So I'm thinking, like, when you're on an island, generally to get your food, you're either going to have to catch prey or you're going to have to, like, shake the coconut tree and catch the coconuts falling down, and Jerry Judy is going to catch neither of those things because he can't catch anything. So I'll take Jerry Judy. I thought you were saying you were going to resort to cannibalism and eat one of us. No, no, I'm just going to eat the thing that he can't catch. Okay.

Next game, we go to the afternoon. If you imagine me, he stuck on an island with Dan. Like, he just. No, I would just start swimming. Let's see how far I can swim. It's like, I've never been to Hawaii, but I guarantee this island is better. I'd rather have the volleyball from Castaway. Yeah, Wilson.

New Orleans, 20, Carolina, 17. Ugh. Man. Jalen Coker is the best wide receiver on the Panthers. No. No, but what do you think about? He was today. McMillan, four targets.

He was last two, right? Yeah. Yeah, he was. That's true. Yeah, no, I'm glad you brought him up. Coker's emerging a little bit here, but he only had four targets. He had caught all of them.

Pokemon, four catches, 58 yards, and a touchdown on four targets for him. But McMillan's the story here. I mean, two catches for 25 yards on four targets. Bryce Young only threw 24 passes. This is not unusual for them. At least he almost had a touchdown, or almost almost had a touchdown. Yeah, kind of almost sort of had an almost touchdown. But, I mean, they're not that many fantasy players we can trust.

Let's just be real here. But Tedd-Role McMillan is moving away from the circle. Who do they have next week? They have Tampa Bay. I'll have to throw a little bit more. That's not good. It's a major game for them. Every single beyond the box score, people want to hear about Rico Dowdell.

So what are your thoughts on? Dowdell, he had 16 carries to eight for Chuba Hubbard. He had the goal line touchdown. They both had one catch. Dave, what do you got with the splits there? I didn't watch the second of the game, but Dowdell played 59% of the snaps. He had their one snap inside the five. It was also their only snap inside the 10.

Chuba played 13 of 14 snaps on third down. So I'd venture to say that if you think Tampa builds a lead in Carolina's got to go to hurry up offense, you will see more of Chuba next week than Doubtle based on this. Okay. What else we got for the Saints? We have another. Oh, you know what? DeVon. Chris Olavé caught fire on like the last drive, two drives for the Saints.

His numbers weren't really that great. And then the last two drives, he just like, Tyler Shuck was like, oh, yeah, I got this guy. I think I better throw to him a ton. fourth quarter seven targets five catches 78 yards and a touchdown that's almost his entire production wow yeah i know he had nothing before then so wow way to go saints to like remember that you had this stud receiver on your team with like one quarter to play all right next game is detroit and the rams rams with a big win here and uh they're what what the chat and dan on the island is that uh the uh that one and then the uh the mad scientist one about dan watching

rocky this one could you imagine a live react video of dan watching rocky he would spend the entire movie talking about his grocery list wouldn't even see the movie johnny airport just now johnny airport dan drawing all of dan drawing all of wadale's routes in the sand that's great All right, someone says... A Jalen Coker will definitely be a waiver wire guy because of the matchup coming up against Tampa Bay. Okay, cool.

Now, to Detroit and the Rams. A fun game here, a lot of fantasy points, good stuff. As well, Malik Davis, by the way. Jamiri Gibbs has got... He's kind of alternating good weeks and meh weeks, and he has sort of struggled in tough matchups, believe it or not. Bad against the Chiefs, bad against Minnesota, good against the Philadelphia,

bad against Green Bay, the Rams. It's been really weird for him. But what do we have from this game, Heath? Well, I think we should start with Matthew Stafford as the MVP. Believe it. He won it today. I think that there's still a small window open because he has to go to Seattle on Thursday in an island game.

And if that goes awful, maybe it's back open. But yeah, I think he's most, we should stop worrying about Dave Montgomery and only touching the ball eight times a game because he scores a touchdown every week. So it's fine. he is the non-PPR king and if you still play in touchdown only leagues he is the number one player probably Pittsburgh next week

doesn't scare me lions could rebound from this game and just go off against the Steelers at home yeah believe it or not Blake Corum must start fantasy running back no no but he's not far off from remandre at this point I mean

four touchdowns in the last three games yeah yeah I remember when Puka was going to miss a game, I think it was in London or something, and we were pretty into Tutu Atwell, the idea of Tutu Atwell anyway, and he had zero catches, and we found out he was hurt. I had no idea. He has five catches this year. They paid him $10 million. Well, it was a five touchdown game for Matthew Stafford without Puka, and three of those went to Devante Adams. Yeah, Adams is almost certainly going to miss the game. this upcoming week. I think you pretty much

just start all your lines. You know what to do with your lions. And I do think Stafford at Seattle is going to be kind of a tough call. What do you think? Stafford at Seattle or Bressett against Atlanta. Preset. I think I'm going to lean Berset.

Probably. Stafford wasn't great against Seattle the first time and that was at home. I mean, look at what Seattle just did do another future Hall of Fame quarterback today. They'll get it. I could end the same year. That was sarcasm for those listening.

Okay. And then Kobe Parkinson, you know, Seattle's usually really bad against tight ends. They weren't today. He's a must add, without a doubt. Okay. Denver 34, Green Bay 26. Troy Franklin is back.

Believe it, as long as Pat Bryan is out, sure. Yep. Kudos to Bo Nix. Yeah, great, great game. He played very well. he yeah mostly well oh come on give him a break 37 fantasy points dave four touchdowns against the packers he was great no one's complaining he's awesome so we got this rj harvey rib injury man this week stinks running backs gosh yeah if he's out that puts even more on bo necks's shoulders and he'll

have to throw a lot you don't have to worry about a low volume game for him he's back to being great at home again he was today sutton all systems go feeling good yep yeah yeah you don't have to worry about him uh and honestly like the the jacksonville defense their front is great their pass rush is good their secondary is still the weak point so if if the broccos are just rolling right now with their past game they're going to lean into it sean payton will lean into it and bo necks will have a good game next week against the jaguars how are you feeling about jay and read right now. Jamie?

I think if I knew 10 PPR points, I can start Jaden Reed. He's not, did we get clarification on his entry? He got hurt too? He got banged up very late in the game

went off on the sideline was holding his leg. Well, that would change things. That's not good. You would get, yeah. Then I think you got to look

at Donatavian Wix. If that's the case. Yeah, Matthew Golden, too. I mean, maybe he's okay, too. I haven't seen anything.

Had the Golden look great. Yeah. No, I would, I would say both, though. Okay, sure. All right, and Seattle 18, Indianapolis, 16, the Seahawks won a game without scoring a touchdown for the fourth time in franchise history.

That's like you're about saying the fourth time this year. You can drop all of your Colts pass catchers. I mean, technically, John and Taylor caught three passes today, so I don't believe it for him. But everybody else, yeah. Yeah, this was an ugly version of an NFL offense. But we've heard of dink and dunk. This was, this was.

Dink and dink. Yeah. We kind of expected them to struggle at Seattle, but you're saying it just looked so bad. It was awesome. It was really bad. It was clear, and they did a really good job of it, too. Like, their entire focus was we're not going to let Philip Rivers get hurt.

And so the ball got out extremely quick, a lot of dump-offs to the running backs. The offensive line was banged up and still did a very good job against this defense. But they were just trying to keep rivers alive. Yeah, eight of the 18 completions went to running backs. It's just, it's a gross offense. It's going to take some lucky breaks for them to, you know, have a big play and for the receivers to have a big game. I don't feel good starting Tyler Warren. like this is another tight end that we should put on the maybe list yeah it's a bummer it is it's a

big time bummer i think warren's definitely behind i mean even against the bills i'd put him behind fanning and concate next week this is also part of my case for tray mcbride as the fantasy MVP it's like don't we're not going to start tyler warren anymore we're you know kiddle of course but we're talking about maybe benching brock bowers now i mean McBride not anymore not with all these other these other tight ends that stink, you're absolutely going to start Burr-Hawr-Havours. Anything else in this game? We talked about Ken Walker.

I thought Sam Darnel with him. I'll keep riffing on Ken Walker, if you want. That's okay. Remember when he used to catch three balls a game that those were good days? I thought Sam Darnal would have a better game. He usually does well in good matchups. He only scored 10.4 points. But, I mean, 271 yards is great, but zero touchdowns.

All right. I think we're done here. San Francisco 37 Tennessee 24 Tony Polar it's actually a starting running back Yeah you know maybe He looked good again It's looked really really good I thought he was going to stink this week and he was great

7.1 yards per carry in the first half Wow Titans best receiver is Jeffrey Simmons They do have the Chiefs next week. That's obviously a tough matchup for a running back. But the 49er, oh, Jefferson. The 49ers pretty good, too, against the run. It's pretty interesting.

I mean, we've talked about a lot of crummy running backs. Right. Here's somebody that's getting a lot of work. And last two weeks, last week, last week it was a little fluky because he had two long runs on defensive breakdowns. I think he had more than two good runs today against the Niners. So he definitely makes a lot of. takes the cut. Tam's his offense look great.

I can't believe Ricky Pierce all left. That stinks. He can't. He left multiple times. He went in the blue tent at least twice. Yeah, the second time did not look so good, limped off the field. Well, he had a great game. Six catches for 96 yards on seven targets.

And hopefully he can get back soon. Brock Purdy's at Indianapolis next week. Probably going to be startable again. 44 rushing yards for Purdy. That was a fun little wrinkle. And I'll just want to say, I think I said this earlier in the year, but Kyle Shanahan sometimes gets a lot of crap from various corners of the internet and the football world.

I think I'd vote for him for Coach of the Year right now. With the injuries that team had this year, the fact that they're 10 and 4. Has it not incredible. That's not Ben Johnson. Yeah. Ben Johnson is in the conversation. Mike Vrable's still in the conversation

I think those guys are all in the conversation I'm just saying like the guys that Shanahan lost for the amount of time that he lost him and it still be 10 and 4

yeah well you know who else is 10 and 4 Liam Cohen too in the playoff hunt Harbaugh yeah think about what

Chargers have overcome yeah I mean look you got the the new guys of Leon Cohen and Ben Johnson what they've done for their teams you have Rable

who you know despite the loss today you know, still has a chance to get the one. What about Sean Payton, too? Yeah, of course. Yep. Yeah. I think the 49ers have honestly had one of the easiest schedules.

To me, they have two impressive wins. The Rams and the... No, they didn't even beat the Bucks. I mean, oh, Seattle in week one. Yeah, I mean, all they did was beat the Rams and the Seahawks. Yeah. He's definitely in the conversation. Pretty easy schedule.

I mean, with losing pretty, pretty... This is only a six-game purdy's played all season. Losing Bosa, losing Warner, the receiver injuries throughout the season, losing Kittle for four games. Like, it's been remarkable, absolutely remarkable. They're pretenders. I'm not buying it with them, the Niners. I'm telling you right now.

I think a lot of times the coach of the year is the coach of a pretender. It's kind of the point. They have a great record with a team that's not actually that good. He hasn't, I mean, he's got two good wins all year to me. Seattle. Here's what you're there with. Patriots have. They beat Buffalo. And they beat the bucks when they're still good.

Yeah. Kevin O'Connell was the coach of the year last year. You never want to win coach of the year. It's kissing. Kevin Stefanski the year before that. Brian Daibel, the year before that. I was going to say, I think Mike Kafka is Dark Horse candidate.

He's doing a good job. Yeah, he's doing a nice job getting the number one pick. All right. Thanks, everybody. Thanks for watching and listening. We got Beyond the Box Corps tomorrow, Waver Wire Tuesday. Have fun on Wednesday. Starts and sits the rest of the week.

And I hope everything goes well for you for the remainder of week 15. See you later.