Fantasy Football Today - Week 15 Tough Calls; Chiefs-Chargers; Fantasy Feud! (12/15 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: December 15, 2021Get ready for in-depth discussions on the Week 15 tough calls. We start with Rashaad Penny (3:00) and James Robinson (8:15). Who has more upside? Who has the lower floor? And how much do we trust Lam...ar Jackson this week (16:50)? ... We've got your news and notes (22:00) and then more tough calls including AJ Dillon (25:35), Javonte Williams (29:05) and Donovan Peoples-Jones (33:15) who has a great opportunity this week. Then we preview Chiefs-Chargers (39:30)! This will be a much tougher test for this Chiefs defense, but can Mike Williams came through this week? What about CEH? ... Dynasty RB talk (51:00), Fantasy Feud (54:10), your emails (1:02:00) and Apple Podcast questions (1:05:00) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On his way to the end zone.
Tell you what, that was a spectacular play.
It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
What a play.
Off to the races.
Touchdown.
Oh, he's done it again.
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck.
Well, we are just a day away from the Chargers,
and the Chiefs cannot wait for that game.
You know what's going to be a tough call for a lot of fantasy managers?
Mike Williams is going to be a tough call.
You figure there should be a decent amount of pass attempts.
Can Mike Williams come down with it?
You know what, guys?
It's going to be biting my nails the entire time.
Are you starting him?
Do you already have him locked into your lineup?
No, I don't.
I think I'm sitting him.
For whom?
For KJ Osborne and Van Jefferson.
Osborne's a little risky, though, because we've got to see about the one.
I would say think a little long and hard about that one before you commit to it.
Jefferson, I'm with you on.
Jefferson's easy.
What about my other?
I've also have Justin Jefferson in that league.
What do you think?
Justin Jefferson or Mike Williams?
Who's on the waiver wire?
Not Traquan Smith.
I already have him.
So I'm curious because you said you're going to be sweating it,
but you also said you're likely going to be sitting.
Yeah.
Be rooting against him.
So you have three guys in your lineup and their points count towards whether
or not you win this week.
And one guy on your bench who has no relevance as to whether you win or lose
this week.
Right.
And you're cheering against the guy who's on your bench.
It's cheering for my decision.
I don't want to be wrong.
I don't know that I could say that.
Because I have Terry McLaurin, too, so we'll have to see.
I don't like McLaurin.
Oh, you might not have a choice.
Because if McLaurin doesn't practice by Thursday, you're going to have to.
He's another tough call.
It's a terrible matchup.
He's not producing. He's not getting a lot of targets. It's another tough call. It's a terrible matchup. He's playing like, he's not producing.
He's not getting a lot of targets.
It's another tough call.
But, all right, we got week 15 tough calls.
Rashad Penny's going to be one of them for sure.
Lamar Jackson is going to be one of them for sure.
We'll also look at the Thursday night game.
And if you guys are good, if you behave,
we'll play the Fantasy Feud.
Ah, hooray.
Dun-dun-dun, dun-dun-dun. There, hooray. Da-da-da.
Da-da-da.
There you go.
No kissing this time, Adam.
Okay, deal.
Who was the toughest call for you, Heath, this week?
Do I dare even say his name?
No, I'm not going to say his name.
I'm going to try to avoid it the whole week.
I think the toughest call might be Penny.
You know who the name is, right?
No, I don't.
I don't.
James Robinson?
That's mine.
Okay. I'm just
going to say Rashad Penny.
Let's talk about Rashad Penny. Right now, he's 64%
rostered, and he is facing
the Rams coming off a 16-carry,
137-yard, two-touchdown performance.
He has two catches in his last two games.
What is tough about this call, and where is he ranked, Heath?
Well, I mean, first off, it's Rashad Penny.
So it's tough.
The percentage of times that he has had a workload like last week and made it through the
entire game healthy. I think maybe it's twice, maybe three times in his entire career. So that's
a concern. It's a concern that he does not have more than one catch in any game this year.
And that in the passing game is really the only way that running backs have had success against the Rams over the past two months.
But I also think he's probably going to get 16 plus touches.
And there are not very many running backs that I feel like that in relation to Deontay Foreman and then the Broncos, Ezekiel Elliott, James Robinson.
And I know I will be out on a limb on this one, but the Packers.
I mean, yes, the Packers.
Both of them.
Both of them.
AJ Dillon we'll talk about as a tough call a little bit later as well.
Okay, so where did you end up ranking him?
And then Dave can give his two cents on.
Oh, his two cents, his two pennies on Rashad Penny.
I currently have Rashad Penny 26th at running back.
I could see ranking him anywhere from 18th to 29th.
Okay.
Dave, your thoughts on this matchup here
against a Rams defense that is allowing
3.06 yards per carry to running backs
in their last six games.
They have been suffocating against running backs.
As Heath mentioned, it's basically been
you got to catch passes to be good against them
or score touchdowns.
James Conner scored two touchdowns,
but it's hard to run on them right now.
So your thoughts on Penny?
Well, I thought I'd start by just comparing penny's last matchup with this matchup and how the texans and rams have done over the last two games it's a small sample size but i
think it's a good microcosm of the year just in general for example missed tackles over the last
two games the rams have missed six tackles the texans have missed 14 tackles the yards per
carry allowed 2.6 for the rams 5.4 for the houston texans rams have allowed three rushing touchdowns
texans have allowed five i think you're catching my drift here that the rams are just a much much
tougher matchup and he's mentioned it but you understand why they're a tougher matchup they've
got a much better defensive front they They're schemed a lot better,
and that's going to make it hard to trust Penny
as a locked-in number two fantasy running back.
It's the opportunity that Heath talked about
and the chance for him to score a touchdown, really,
that makes me buy into him
as a low-end number two fantasy running back.
And I like the fact that the Seahawks,
they know what they've got in him, too.
They know that he's not somebody that they can count on as a long-term option, but he's giving them a semblance of a run
game right now. And I don't think they're going to be worried about, well, we don't want to get
him hurt so fast. It's the end of the year. They're making the best type of playoff push
they can possibly make. They basically need to win out. So they're just going to let him go.
And if he gets hurt, then they'll deal with it then.
But until that point, they're happy to give him the workload that they would give any
running back who's doing anything.
And that's what he is.
He's a running back who's giving them something compared to the other slubs that they've had
back there.
So I'm okay picking him up off the waiver wire and using him as a low-end number two
running back this week.
I've got him ranked 21st in full PPR.
And hopefully he
survives the game hopefully everybody who starts him survives their fantasy matchups because the
matchups do get easier for him yeah i i do think it's that might be really interesting to talk
about the five running backs that i have penny behind and dave has him ahead of yeah go ahead
who are they i assume deontay Foreman's one of them.
Yes.
Let's give the matchups, by the way.
Foreman's at Pittsburgh.
And that's the one...
Actually, no, that's not true.
Foreman is not ahead of him,
but he should be.
I'm going to make that change right now.
You're putting Foreman ahead of Penny right now.
Putting Foreman ahead of Penny right now.
So now we're at six?
No.
That's the other way around.
Now we're at four.
Okay, got it.
You have both Broncos ahead of him?
Yes. You have... Whatcos ahead of him? Yes.
You have, what about Zeke and Robinson?
I do not have those guys ahead of him.
Penny ahead of Robinson, Penny ahead of Zeke.
And then I guess Ramond Ray would probably be the other one.
Ramond Ray's definitely behind.
Are you thinking that Harris is going to play,
so you're just not going to rank Stevenson as high as you would if Harris was out?
That's right.
I've moved Stevenson down because I'm expecting Harris to play.
But we're not ranking Harris yet.
No, not yet, but in a couple of days we will.
I'm assuming.
They have a Saturday game, right?
The Patriots-Trips.
They have a Saturday game.
So it's basically Zeke and Robinson.
Who are two of the other tough calls.
They are.
They should absolutely be talked about on this very podcast.
Oh, they will be.
All right, so let's go to James Robinson then.
And Robinson is facing Houston.
I think that's the saving grace, right?
That's what's making this such a tough call.
The same defense that Vinny just tore up.
They give up the fourth most fantasy points to running backs.
They've given up a touchdown to a running back
in all but three games this year.
It's, you know, it's just, you're salivating over it.
If James Robinson were really clicking and going right now,
he'd probably be in the top 12, right?
So, Dave, first word on Robinson,
and what kind of workload do you expect?
He has 14 carries in his last two games.
So that's a loaded question.
What I expect is, I don't know, because this coaching
staff seems to not want to give him the type of workload that he deserves, that he's earned.
He's played well when given the opportunity for the majority of this season, but this offense
has turned to Duke and now we don't know how many carries he's going to get. Heath can dress it up and say that Robinson had 75% of the running back workload last week.
Or just maybe that's carries.
I don't know exactly what it is.
Yeah, well, guess what?
It wasn't that much.
It's like saying I had 50% of the targets in the game with the Patriots where Mac Jones threw three passes.
I think that's a good place to start because they had eight rush attempts last week.
They're probably averaging 18 per game on the season.
How many rush attempts do you think they'll have in a game when they're favored against
the Houston Texans?
Okay, so if I'm playing the what's logical card, I would say they could have as many
as 20 rush attempts against the Texans
because hello, I just went through it. The Texans run defense. They miss a lot of tackles. They're
not very good. They allow a high yards per carry average. They should give him a lot of work. So
if he's getting 75% of 20 carries, that's awesome. That's a guy who I'd like to start close to the
top 12. I don't know what they're thinking. And because I don't know what they're thinking,
like I think I know what the Seahawks are thinking,
if you're following me here,
then I can't trust Robinson to go into my lineup
and deliver if he's going to just get another six carries
and do nothing.
He gave me 0.4 in one of my leagues last week.
So the trust factor is very low.
It's got nothing to do with Robinson
as much as it has to do with Urban Meyer
and the coaching staff
and the decisions that they're making.
He also played the majority of snaps for the Jaguars,
but he just didn't get enough work.
And I would think that in a game
that is winnable for Jacksonville,
that they would try and feed him a little bit more
and take some pressure off of Lawrence.
So let's get excited.
Come on.
But Adam,
I would have said the exact same thing last week.
I don't think so, because Tennessee is much tougher.
I would have said the exact same thing last week,
that they should feed James Robinson the football.
But it wasn't a game we thought was winnable.
Right, well, look, I looked at the game log today, right?
They were down, they lost 20-0.
They were down 10-0 at halftime.
They were in it.
They were within striking distance for much of the game.
But for some reason, they were very, very pass-heavy
in the first half. Very unbalanced.
Lawrence ended up throwing 40 passes in a game
where they had the ball for about 23 minutes.
The game script, I think, is going to be very
different. I think there's
a really... I think there's an easy
case to make for Robinson. I understand
he is definitely a tough call, but it's
an easier case to make, I think, for
him than against him this week.
And this is strange to say because I don't think I've ever suggested that Rashad Penny had a higher floor than anyone in any instance.
Sure.
But is it fair to say that James Robinson is by far the higher ceiling play and Penny is by far the higher floor play?
No, I disagree.
I don't agree either. I think that Robinson has a higher floor. I think Penny has a really the higher floor play. No, I disagree. I don't agree either.
I think that Robinson has a higher floor.
I think Penny has a really low floor.
No, I'm sorry.
Robinson had 0.4 fantasy points.
I don't really think it is.
I understand that everybody's floor is 0 on any given week.
I mean, last week, Terry McLaurin had 0 points.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me just explain.
When I look at Rashad Penny, right, if they lose
this game, and the Rams are ravaged
by COVID right now, so we gotta see who's in
and who's out for them. If they lose this
game, I wanna tell you the amount of running
back carries that the Seahawks
have had when they've lost
and when it hasn't been
Geno Smith. They've been willing to run the ball
when they lose when Geno Smith's playing.
When Russell Wilson's playing and they lose,
14, 14, 11, 17, and 10 running back carries.
So you're talking, let's give them 14 carries.
Averaging three and a half yards per carry maybe
with one catch.
I see a floor of five fantasy points for Rashad Penny.
I think that's fair.
I don't see – look, I know it could happen, obviously,
because Urban Meyer is Urban Meyer or whatever,
but as long as he doesn't fumble, I really –
I think I'm talking myself into James Robinson right now.
I think I'm ready to go.
But I don't know.
I quoted with Penny's ceiling is 75 yards and a touchdown.
That's what I said last week, and he blew that out of the water. He doubled.
Well, he's playing the Texans. It's hard to do that against
the Rams. It's very hard to do that against the Rams,
but if the Rams
continue to incur a bunch of
COVID losses, who's
left on that defense? I know they'll still have some
star players, but... The front sevens.
Donald and Von Miller. Sure, sure, sure.
Front sevens and Tats. They've got some good play out of their
linebackers, There's no question.
But if one of those guys end up going missing,
then, of course, the matchup will be easier.
Even if those guys play,
I think Penny will have the opportunities
to break a couple of explosive runs.
I think he can do...
I don't know if he can do...
All right, fine.
75 and a touchdown does seem close to a ceiling
for this matchup.
I don't know if that's even in the stratosphere
for James Robinson, even against Houston. Oh, it absolutely is.
To trust James Robinson is to trust the offensive line and the coaching
staff in Jacksonville. Both of those things have not been
trustworthy over the last few weeks.
Here's my final, and I said this last night on the
YouTube show,
I think Houston is,
and this is maybe the only team you could say this about the Texans,
but Houston is currently run
better than Jacksonville
as an organization,
as a coaching staff,
and Houston, I think,
probably has the 31st best run team
in the league.
These teams both desperately
for the future of their franchises
should be trying to lose this game.
It's not going to happen.
That makes me think Jacksonville
is probably going to win it by three touchdowns.
Nobody tanks.
Players don't tank.
Nobody tanks.
This same Jacksonville team last year
benched Gardner Minshew for six weeks
to play a variety of quarterbacks
that were not any good at all because they were intentionally losing yeah but yes because they refused to tank
missed the number one pick yeah there's no Trevor Lawrence this year this they're gonna you know
the Texans are currently tanking right now right so they're gonna you know there's no Trevor Lawrence
this year all right whatever that's fine okay that's a good theory I'm gonna do a twitter poll
who do you like this week? Half PPR, Rashad
Penny, or James Robinson?
What could sway me?
What could sway me into taking James Robinson?
If Urban Meyer comes out
and says, yeah, I've been a real idiot
moron about how I've used my running backs,
James Robinson's definitely
going to get the ball more this week.
I know it's coach speaking. We don't want to trust
lying liars that are coaching football,
especially urban Meyer.
He's one of the lyingest liars that are out there,
but some sort of information that tells us that Robinson will get more work
than what he has in the past few games.
That'll help sway me.
That'll help convince me that he's got a shot to get 15 touches against the
Texans.
Yes.
I would rather have James Robinson with 15 touches against the Texans than Rashad Penny and 15 touches against the Texans. Yes, I would rather have James Robinson with 15 touches against the Texans than
Rashad Penny and 15 touches against
the Rams. All right, let's go a little faster here,
guys. Let's get to Lamar Jackson here. And first, I
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Lamar Jackson is a tough call.
Per game, it's a little skewed because he left really early last week,
but now he's number 9 in 4-point, number 6 in 10-point per game,
and he has only four games this year.
He's going to like this decimal scoring only four games this year with more
than 21.5 fantasy points in decimal scoring and six point per passing
touchdown leagues.
There are 11 quarterbacks averaging more than that this year.
So anyway,
yeah,
he's got the bad ankle and how much do you trust him against Green Bay,
which has given up five pass plays of 46 or more yards
in their last three games, which is very unusual for them.
Heath, how much do you trust Lamar Jackson?
Where do you have him ranked?
Probably the lowest that I have had him ranked
in the past two and a half seasons.
But he's still inside my top 12.
Basically, I'm trusting Lamar Jackson unless I can get Tua off the waiver wire.
I would not start Taysom Hill over him.
I would not start Justin Fields or Jimmy Garoppolo over him, but I would start most of the guys that we've been treating as starters this year over him. I do think that over the course of this year, Lamar has been a little bit unlucky in terms of touchdown production.
And if he was 100% healthy and not facing a great defense, I would say there's going to be some touchdown regression in the final month of the season. But that's never guaranteed.
It might happen next year.
I think he's a low-end number one quarterback who still,
if his ankle is just fine, he still has the number one quarterback upside.
But there's a lot of risk.
Dave, what about you?
Are you on Tua over Lamar Jackson as well?
I haven't gotten there yet, but I think I could see myself getting there
just because I think Tua is safer.
And in these uncertain playoff times,
taking a big risk,
unless you're running into just an absolute juggernaut
in the first round of your fantasy playoffs,
I don't know if it's necessarily worth
taking the risk of Lamar Jackson.
His last three games, three touchdowns,
passing, none rushing, six interceptions,
completion rate is down to 61%, I believe. His yards per attempt is below six yards per throw.
The offensive line isn't protecting him as well as it used to. And now teams are really not afraid
to blitz him. In the past, they were afraid to really just, they tried to corral him and make
him throw and he'd be fine doing that. and sometimes he'd still escape and get plenty of rushing yards.
Now they're coming after him, and if he's hobbled, that's only going to make it worse.
I'm really nervous about trusting Lamar Jackson
and certainly expecting him to have a big game,
especially in a year where he hasn't had a lot of big games.
But the upside is undeniable, and the other thing that really keeps him in my top 12
is that you look at Justin Fields last week, you look at Stafford and Kirk Cousins the two weeks
before, all against the Packers, all made a bunch of great throws and had explosive plays. And the
Ravens love those types of explosive plays. So it could very easily be a Marquise Brown bounce back
week. You know, Mark Andrews is going to get his numbers.
Bateman is coming off the best game of his career.
If those guys are going to step up,
then that obviously means that Lamar Jackson is doing his thing,
and that keeps him in line as a top-12 fantasy quarterback
that does continue to give him plenty of upside,
even when he hasn't given you any reason to love him
over the last three games he's played.
I do have him ahead of Jalen Hurts.
And now I've moved,
I've moved Stafford to the back of the top 12,
just with all the things going on with the Rams there.
Well,
what about all the things with going on with the Washington though?
I mean,
Jalen Hurts is facing now.
We'll see what happens.
They're timed for these guys.
I'm happy to take hurts,
but he's,
he also does not have a high ceiling.
Okay. We've got 166 votes so far. Who do you like this week, James Robinson or Rashad Penny?
51.2% Penny, 48.8% James Robinson. Wow, it's a lot closer than I thought it would be.
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All right, news and notes.
Let's go through this real quick.
Taylor Heineke is going to start this week.
Damian Harris was limited in practice.
He's at the Colts on Saturday.
So we're hoping he can make it.
Well, I don't know if we're hoping he can make it back.
It depends if you have Stevenson or not.
Odell Beckham is on the COVID list,
along with two defensive backs and six other players
as they face Seattle. This is
definitely something we have to keep an eye on.
It's not two defensive backs including
Ramsey. It's two more defensive
backs. So the Rams are in a tough spot.
But Tyler Higby...
I think
they shut down their
facilities just like the Browns.
The next day or two is
going to be key because
there's some real concerns that
a lot of those guys were on the same plane coming
back
just the
night before they all tested positive.
Yeah. I know
the NFL does not want to do any
postponements or rescheduling. I mean, I think the
rule is they'd have to lose?
Forfeit. Right. Forfeit. Yeah.
Jeez. Seems a little harsh.
Which will cause all kinds of an uproar
in fantasy leagues.
I just, I really, like,
it seems like
if you're a really good team
and you've seen what's happened the last two days,
you need to go back
to whatever you were doing last year
and just go full bore we're not going
to have any cases yeah a lot of teams want it it's a matter of whether or not the players will
go along with it testing every day though i shouldn't say a lot of teams want it i've read
that teams are want to do that want to go back to that just it's it's winning time you know you
can't lose these players and obviously there's the health and safety matter of it too.
All right.
Tyler Higbee is off the reserve COVID list.
Jarvis Landry is on it.
And Austin Hooper.
And two starting offensive linemen for Cleveland.
And they have the Raiders on Saturday.
And we plan on talking about Donovan Peoples-Jones
in this tough calls segment coming up.
Giovanni Bernard is on IR.
Washington has a lot of COVID cases.
And Kendall Fuller, one of their top cornerbacks,
reserve defensive tackle Tim Settle.
They're added on along with Montez Sweat, Jonathan Allen.
It's a lot for Washington right now.
Kansas City, potentially a very huge, yeah, big one here
with Chris Jones. Yeah. So Kansas City is on a six game winning streak. Their defense has been
one of the best. This is going to be a huge challenge for them now without Jones. I didn't
realize that five of their last six games in this winning streak were at home. Now they're going on
the road Thursday night, probably without Chris Jones. And I haven't seen, I, somebody tweeted
me yesterday and said, why haven't we made a bigger deal? Chris Jones. I haven't seen... Somebody tweeted me yesterday and said,
why haven't we made a bigger deal? Chris Jones
didn't test positive. He was just a close contact.
He could still play. And I haven't seen
that, but I need to look into it.
If that is the case, then he's got a shot to
play, and that's good news for the Chiefs DST.
Good news for the Chiefs defense.
It's a whole bad news for the Chargers offense.
I'll try to do some research to see if that tweeter was
correct. Please. Keenan Allen's going to see if that tweeter was correct. Please.
Keenan Allen's going to play.
Austin Eckler was limited.
Indications have been that he's going to play.
Got to keep an eye on James Conner and DeAndre Hopkins.
You have to pick up Chase Edmonds this week.
Conner getting an MRI on his ankle and short week coming off the Monday night game at Detroit.
DeAndre Hopkins, MRI on his leg.
Daniel Jones is out this week
and no commitment that he'll be back at any point this season.
Aaron Rodgers got the toe injury.
He says it's not going to be a problem.
And Dan Campbell, he's hopeful to get DeAndre Swift back against the Cardinals.
He's hopeful to get TJ Hawkinson back, and we will see.
All right, let's go to Tough Calls Part 2, guys,
and just going to try to speed it along a little bit here.
So I'm just going to shut up, and I'm going to say a name. I'm going to let you go. Dave, you can start. A.J. Dillon facing
one of the best run defenses. Call him a top five run defense. A.J. Dillon coming off a 15 carry
zero catch game against the Ravens. Is he a tough call for you? He is a challenging call and my heart
wants to use him as a number two fantasy running back. I like that he's still very relevant in the Packers offense.
He's getting more work than Aaron Jones.
He's just not, in the case of last week, getting the touchdowns.
I think he's okay as a number two running back.
I might have him ahead of Penny and Robinson right now.
He might end up in between those guys,
but they're all in that same mix as running backs who you know there's some concern with.
But at least in his case, it sure seems like he's getting...
He's a safe bet for 15 touches.
It just seems that way now.
Okay, well, there are only two running backs this year
with more than 59 yards rushing.
So if you don't get any catches, it's very hard.
He's got to score. Well, he does do that. He can get catches.
We've seen that from him. We just didn't see that much last week.
Sure.
The Raven is... Am I crazy or is
Calais Campbell?
He got hurt, but they've had him.
I don't think he's on the cover list.
He just left last week's game very early with an injury.
He has missed some time.
He's left some games early.
It hasn't really affected them,
but he is obviously a very important player
and something to keep in mind.
All right, Heath, how about you on Dillon?
I mean, it's hard to know with the Packers.
If you look, forget about the game
where Aaron Jones had just come back,
but if you look at the way they've been used,
there are weeks where A.J. Dillon does not see a target, and there are weeks where he gets just
four passes and Aaron Jones doesn't catch a pass. But I'm kind of leaning more on what their usage
was in the most recent game, and that was A.J. Dillon just as the running downs guy, Aaron Jones
as the pass catcher. I think we mostly think that Aaron Jones is still better at that role than Dylan is.
That's not how you want to attack this Ravens defense at all.
And it's one thing to face a defense like the Rams,
who are just talented everywhere.
This is a matchup where you're facing a Ravens defense
that's awesome against the run and miserable against the pass.
So I really don't want to...
I don't think the running game
is going to be successful are we looking at dylan as a touchdown needy running back is that fair to
say for this week he's got to find a way to hammer for a short yardage goal line score yep i don't
think he's all that much different than foreman or penny that i i agree with you on that right
so in that regard he's in that same range But unlike Robinson, and Penny's matchup is tough,
although I think he can get to 15 touches,
I think that Dylan's in line for another 15 touches.
And he's the exact same guy.
He's got to score.
One thing that makes me a little more hopeful for Dylan
is they do have such a great passing game,
and maybe the Ravens, who have had zero respect
for the Browns' passing game,
they're not going to be able to necessarily defend them the same way.
But what about this?
There's no guarantee that he out-carries Aaron Jones.
Aaron Jones is one of the best running backs in football.
We don't know what the roles are going to be week to week.
We've got to see a little more.
All right, do you like Dylan or our next guy, Javante Williams,
in a very interesting matchup against the Bengals.
And they have played almost no close games.
They played three close games all year.
Three games decided by eight points or less.
It's all blowouts.
So it's hard to know.
Game script is so important to them,
but they don't have a lot of back and forth competitive games.
This could be one of them.
Who do you like better, Heath, Dylan or Javante?
Right now I have Javante and Melvin both ahead of Dylan.
But I do think that even if this is a game they win,
I think this is a low-scoring, low-volume game.
So I don't feel very confident Javante is getting 15 touches,
as we were talking about with the other guys.
It's just that I think he'll have a couple of catches.
I'm pretty worried about both. And put giovante on my uh on twitter
on my fooled you team because i think he's one of those guys who has helped people get to the
playoffs the last month who could just lay a complete egg yeah uh dave your thoughts on
giovante versus dylan he's my favorite of the broncos and Packers running backs. And Dylan is actually my least favorite of the Broncos and Packers running backs.
I think that he's still going to have a shot to score and rack up some yardage.
We've seen touchdowns to running backs in seven of the last 10 games against the Bengals.
Cincinnati's done an okay job at slowing down some running games lately.
Pittsburgh's, for example.
San Francisco's, I don't
know if we really should say, oh, wow, amazing job. Cincinnati slowing down. Jeff Wilson and
Michael Hasty, wow. I think the Broncos' identity is running the football. I think they're doing a
good job of it. And I think that this is a game where both teams can maybe slow it down a little
bit. And I think it would behoove the Bengals to do it,
and I think the Broncos, it's just kind of in their DNA to do it.
So Williams is the one that would be the most appealing to me
for his breakout skills,
and certainly for simply the fact that he's been getting a lot of work.
I can double-check the snap counts for the Broncos last week,
but I believe that Javante was ahead.
Oh, no, they were tied.
Remember I made a big deal about that?
They were both 49%.
And Gordon had more work from 10 yards or closer.
Javante had more work on third and fourth downs.
Yeah, I think they're close, Javante and Gordon,
but I think Javante is the one I'd rather start.
Yeah, I want to give this though, you know, in, in the losses, he's had seven, eight, 11, four, and eight carries in
five losses that he played with Melvin Gordon. They lost the chiefs game. He had 23 carries,
no Melvin Gordon, but that's seven, eight, 11, four, and eight carries. Um, and in wins it's
12 to 15 in five of seven games,
one game with 17 carries, one game with nine carries,
so it is a big difference, but like I said,
they're always playing in blowout wins or blowout losses pretty much,
and just to give perspective on what you usually get from Javante Williams,
and the last three games have been great.
I think you've got to eliminate the Chiefs game,
just different situation, no Gordon,
but he still scored 20 points in the other two, 20 or more points in the other two games.
But they were both wins.
In his first 10 games,
it was usually about, you know,
12 or fewer PPR fantasy points.
That was what,
the only time he has scored more than that
in the first 10 games of the season,
more than 12 PPR fantasy points
is when he scored a touchdown.
And he only did that in two games in his first 10.
So is that kind of what you're thinking?
I mean, are you thinking 12 PPR fantasy points or so
for Javante and Gordon, I guess?
Yeah.
Yeah, right in that range.
Which is a low-end number two running back.
I think they've got upside to be better than that.
Which is something I don't know if we can say
about any other running back you've brought up so far oh i i think every robinson like rob aj dylan had every every
running back i would expect if they score a touchdown most right sure sure sure sure but
who's got the most upside i would say robinson i would say robinson yeah okay i'll say williams
uh by the way let's update the twitter poll we're at 599 votes who
do you like this week half ppr robinson against houston penny at the rams 49.2 percent robinson
50.8 penny awesome yeah nice job with the 50 50 poll all right we do one more here and it's
donovan people's jones and it's a big opportunity for him against the Raiders,
who have been great most of the year against wide receivers,
struggling a bit lately.
Heath, I think you're pretty high on Donovan Peoples-Jones.
I'm going to check his roster percentage.
Go ahead and make the case for him
and who you're comparing Peoples-Jones to this week.
Yeah, he's a high-end No. 3 wide receiver
with enormous upside and a scary, scary floor.
Just because we have not seen very many games this season, in fact three, where he's caught more than two passes.
Now, what we've also seen is that the first two years of his career, over 55 targets, he's averaging almost 20 yards per catch.
But if there's no Jarvis Landry, if there's no Austin Hooper, and maybe most importantly,
if there's no David Njoku, because Njoku has been that deep threat guy when he's been on the field,
even as a tight end, which is weird. I think we're probably going to see six, seven, maybe even eight targets for Peoples Jones. He's averaged about 12 PPR fantasy points in the six games
that he's had at least five targets.
That seems like a near guarantee.
I'm comparing him, I won't say,
I think he's in the same range, honestly, as DK Metcalf,
but people are going to start DK Metcalf over Donovan Peoples Jones
because of his name.
But I think Mike Williams, Chase Claypool, Jerry Judy,
Gabriel Davis, Michael Gallup, Devante Parker, Darnell Mooney,
that's the range he's in for me,
and I currently have him ahead of all those guys.
Okay.
Yeah, I have a follow-up on the Browns, but ahead dave you want to talk about dpj i've said it before i'll say it again fantasy football is more about opportunity than talent
and the guy in the petri dish this week to prove that is donovan peoples jones i think he's got a
great opportunity to get the eight type of targets that he's mentioned but he's been a horribly
inefficient player um certainly over the course of his career but certainly most definitely over
the last four weeks his catch rate over the last four weeks is below 50 despite an a dot of 14.0
and he's just he's just being blessed with this chance to be the main target for baker mayfield
in the browns offense against a beatable defense.
The Raiders have been okay against receivers all year, but high volume receivers have beaten
them this year.
There have been 12 receivers with at least eight targets against Las Vegas.
Nine of them have come through with a floor of 11 PPR points.
I think you're okay penciling him in for six for 50 or five for 60,
however you want to do it.
And there is upside.
He had two end zone targets last week.
He's a tall receiver.
He's got nice long arms, but he drops a bunch of passes,
two in his last four games, for example.
And he gets a lot of deep throws from Baker,
and they're not necessarily on target.
And even when they are, they turn into contested catches.
As a matter of fact, he doesn't have the type of speed that you like, and they're not necessarily on target. And even when they are, they turn into contested catches.
As a matter of fact, he doesn't have the type of speed that you like,
which makes every target turn into a contested catch for him.
So I think he's not an overly talented elite type of player,
but he's just being given an opportunity.
And if you're looking for a number three receiver,
he's absolutely in that mix.
Point of clarification, because Dave and I said completely opposite things about donovan people's jones efficiency i think we're defining that in a different way
um he's averaged 19.8 yards per catch 13.3 yards per target caught 67 of his career targets and
scored once every 10 targets from a a fantasy perspective, that is as efficient
as you can be as a wide receiver. That's over the balance of his career? Yes. Is it fair to judge
him on the balance of his career, or is it more fair to judge him on what he's done lately?
Philosophical question for you. Always, the larger sample size you can get, the better.
But if you were going to say what he's done lately i would just ask that we extend it to five games and not four and then he's
averaged 21 yards per catch 12 yards per target and 56 catch rate all right guys um i want to
make i want to make one point about the browns i think think David Njoku is a sneaky ad. He's on the COVID list right now.
You can stash him in an IR spot.
He's widely available, obviously.
Hooper's on the COVID list more recently.
It's a good chance that just like Hooper last week,
that Njoku is the only guy this week.
And the Raiders...
Sorry, who's their matchup this week?
The Raiders.
My bad.
Terrible against tight ends.
Njoku sneaky.
By the way,
don't make ad drops
if you're not in the playoffs.
If you're listening,
Podcast League,
what are you doing, guy?
Who?
One guy.
I'm not going to call him out.
But what are you doing?
I thought Dave said Heath.
Well, you did in our Dynasty League.
And I think I remember your rule is that it's okay to make ad drops even when you're out.
Of course.
In a Dynasty League, you can make ad drops all the way through week 18.
Why am I a 126-point underdog in the Podcast League right now?
I would guess you have an illegal lineup.
Yeah.
I bust.
I have to put Njoku on IR.
Okay.
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Going to try to definitely going to read your emails.
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Okay, here we go. Chargers and Chiefs.
We'll start off with an update on Chris Jones. Apparently, there are two people on Twitter who are pretty convinced, and they are not verified or reporters of any kind that I can tell,
who are very convinced that Chris Jones did not test positive and is a close contact.
But there's no one else who's saying that.
They have said it to a lot of people.
At this point, I believe Chris Jones
we should expect to not play.
Well, the Chiefs are three-point favorites
and got a 52-point total.
It opened at 49.5.
So let's go.
Let's get a big one.
I was thinking about this.
I was thinking, like,
against the Chargers
have been very good this year
and they're playing on the road
and the Chargers already beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead.
It does not seem like the Chiefs should be favored.
But then you remember the last time these two teams played,
the Chiefs turned the ball over on their first three possessions,
lost the turnover battle 4-0,
and Justin Herbert needed a touchdown pass
with 35 seconds left to win.
The Chiefs are on a six-game winning streak.
Five of them have been at home,
and they have given up no more than 17 points
to any team in those six games.
They have allowed exactly nine points
in three straight games,
but this is a step up in competition.
They have faced the Giants,
the Packers without Aaron Rodgers,
the Raiders twice,
the Cowboys with no Cooper
and with CeeDee Lamb
leaving at halftime,
and the Broncos.
And one thing I've seen,
look at the last three games.
Opponent pass attempts.
Just go to the six games.
32, 34, 35.
The last three games,
43, 40, and 45.
That really jumped out to me.
And that's what made me kind of have a little Mike Williams FOMO.
If you could get the 40 points, 40 pass attempts from Justin Herbert.
But anyway, where do you want to start?
Why don't we start with the Chargers here?
And who do you like better, Herbert or Mahomes?
Mahomes, barely.
Herbert.
Both are must-starts, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Eckler's a must-start.
Keenan Allen, right back in there?
Right back in.
Yep.
Okay.
All right, Mike Williams, start or sit?
I'll call him a start.
I like the fact that in his last five games
he's seen at least six targets
per game, 12 plus PPR
points in three of the five. His ADOT is
coming down, so he's getting those shorter targets
that he wasn't getting in the middle of the year
when he was basically absent
from producing major fantasy
points. Sorry to interrupt.
Is that ADOT coming down consistently or just last week?
Because last week he was almost Keenan Allen the way they used to.
Right, right, right.
I believe it's been over the last few games, not just one game.
Let's take a look.
Yeah, go ahead.
Last five, his ADOT's eight yards, his catch rate's up 73%.
I like that.
And I'm hoping that it stays that way, even with Keenan Allen coming back and that they
don't use him as strictly a downfield weapon.
More importantly, I like the fact that the targets are starting to go back in the right
direction because he's working more as a short area receiver, as well as doing some things
downfield as well.
So I'm okay with him as a low-end number two wide receiver,
someone who might be able to come through for good numbers.
He's actually come through for amazing numbers
in his last two games against Kansas City
in the neighborhood of over 100 yards,
at least six catches, and a touchdown in each of those games.
So the track record's there.
The role is changing back into something
that's more reliable for fantasy purposes.
And it's a game where Justin Herbert should throw quite a bit.
I think that might be a little deceiving.
We have another COVID situation.
Kevin Stefanski has tested positive for the Browns.
What's deceiving?
Okay, so because—
How am I deceived?
No, no, no, not intentionally.
If you look at the ADOT, you said it's eight yards over the last
six games? Last five. Five games.
Last five games. Alright, so
he had this strange game against
the Minnesota Vikings where his ADOT was
1.7, and last week
it was 3.2 without Keenan Allen.
The other three games, 9,
10, and 14.4.
What were they in the games prior?
Maybe the three or four games prior. Yeah, sure. Oh, much higher. 17.8, 14.4, 15.6, 11 prior maybe the three or yeah sure oh much higher 17.8
14.4 15.6 i'm good with what i said okay i'm good with it all right even the nine and ten adoc games
it's lower it's lower yep it's definitely lower all right um heath anything on williams
borderline number two number three high high high ceiling low low low floor okay
um and then no jared cook right sit him i do think that's a just real quick because we've
said that about a couple of guys and we've talked about upside and floor a lot during the season i
normally just play the guys who i have projected the highest. Do you guys
factor upside and floor in more in the postseason? Do you lean more one way or the other?
I rank the same way in the fantasy postseason as I do the regular season. I don't want to change
very much. So you don't look at your opponent and think, I need upside this week.
I don't do it. The reason why I don't do it is a little selfish. I'm
playing in a ton of leagues and I don't have the chance to go and look at every single opponent and
who I'm going up against. So when I go through my lineups, I'm just setting the best lineup I
possibly can. And I'm usually shooting for upside in the majority of cases anyway, but
upside's relative. There's Marquez Valdez scScantling upside, where you know that he's the type of receiver who really relies on making one big play in order to be useful for fantasy. And then there's the upside in somebody like, we could say, Donovan Peoples-Jones or Mike Williams, who we're assuming can get a lot of targets and potentially catch a touchdown. And they have more chances to come through for a few big plays than someone like MVS or a Nelson Aguilar or somebody like that.
Yeah, I don't really change anything, I don't think.
I want to make sure I have some upside in my lineup.
I wouldn't go all safe, I guess.
But I can't imagine a lineup that has no upside.
But I think Mike Williams would be...
I think he's kind of easy for me.
I think he's really sucked lately.
I mean, if you look at his last six or seven games,
he had the 50-yard touchdown against the Steelers where they forgot to cover him.
Which was a defensive breakdown.
And then he had a great game against the Bengals.
But I've been watching some of his film.
He doesn't get open.
He doesn't look explosive.
I'm not sure he's healthy.
And he needs a big play downfield.
And the Chiefs aren't really giving those up.
So I'm trying to sit him.
And you don't care what he did against the Chiefs earlier this year?
No, the Chiefs are so different now than they were earlier this year.
But not having Chris Jones is a huge deal.
I mean, it's going to make things easier for Herbert.
So that's what's pulling me back,
because I think Herbert can have a big game here.
I agree. I think that matters a lot.
And we don't know what the deal is with LeJarrius Snead either.
But he's their slot corner, isn't he?
Right, right, right.
So I don't think that would really help Keenan Allen, obviously,
since Allen lines up in the slot a bunch.
Williams doesn't line up in the slot much at all.
But it's not like I expect their secondary
to completely shut down the Chargers passing game.
And I don't know if their pass rush is going to be able to mess with Herbert a lot, especially if Jones isn't there. Now it could be a lot of Eckler though.
The chiefs give up a ton of receptions to running backs. That's always a big part of it.
What would be a nightmare situation is if Rashawn Slater doesn't play for the Chargers. He's on the
COVID list and Chris Jones does play for the chiefs because now we're talking about both
tackles for the Chargers not being very good.
And the Chiefs de-line their pass rush being at close to full strength.
That would be problematic.
Wrapping up the Chargers, Jared Cook is a sit, right?
You can find another tight end better than Jared Cook.
Yep.
Okay.
Njoku?
Well, that's not.
It's a Thursday game.
I'd be able to do that.
Unless Njoku's cleared by Thursday afternoon.
In which case, you'd rank him ahead of Cook?
For sure. Okay. Patrick
Mahomes is top six.
He's only had two good games in his last seven. Both
were against the Raiders. Who play a ton
of cover three. And this was
the game in week three where Mahomes
and the Chiefs kind of started to get exposed. I know
the stats don't necessarily suggest that,
but the Chargers played a lot of cover
one. More in this game, almost twice as much in this game than in any other game this year.
And I would expect them to stick to it. And Mahomes hasn't been great against cover one
since that game. So I think you're going to see a lot of man coverage from the Chargers.
They're going to really rely on their pass rush to get to Mahomes. And they also did a good job
of pressing Travis Kelsey. Something interesting happened in this game and I watched the film from week three to to really get started on this game they were
jamming Kelsey and Kelsey was struggling with it and the timing was off with Mahomes because they
were using it wasn't just Derwin James it was another defensive back to sometimes a linebacker
pressing on Kelsey and Kelsey was just a step or two behind where he needed to be.
And then on the plays where they were pressing Kelsey, he was getting 20 and 30-yard receptions
on the regular. So I wonder if we're going to continue to see more of that type of physical
coverage on Kelsey. And honestly, I think it could lead to a really good game for Edwards-Elair,
who's been good the past couple of weeks. I've got him as a top 10 running back now.
I think he's got a chance to, if the Chargers stick with this cover one, I think this
is really where they go offensively is a lot of using the running backs. So yeah, Heath, look,
the Chiefs are easy. I think there's going to be a little anxiety about Mahomes, but ultimately he's
going to be started in most leagues. And then Hill and Kelsey are going to be started in almost all leagues.
So it's kind of Clyde Edwards-Elair.
First of all, we've talked about a lot of running backs.
James Robinson, the Broncos, the Packers, Rashad Penny.
It's Clyde Edwards-Elair.
All of them.
Would you start him or Miles Sanders?
Clyde.
Gibson. Clyde.
Gibson.
Clyde.
Yep.
Yep.
Jacobs against the Browns.
I have Jacobs higher.
Miles Gaskin if he plays against the Jets.
Clyde.
Clyde.
All right.
Clyde over Saquon.
Clyde over Cordero.
Clyde over a Broncos running back.
Clyde over David Montgomery. All right. I got one good one for you. Clyde or...ero, Clyde over a Broncos running back, Clyde over David Montgomery.
Oh, I got one good one for you.
Clyde or...
Yeah, I'm not that far.
All right, Clyde or Leonard Fournette against the Saints?
Fournette.
I have Fournette higher.
But I get it.
I get it.
He had a bad game against the Saints.
Sure.
As I recall.
I don't remember off the top of my head.
I haven't looked at that game yet.
Maybe I come around to Clyde over Fournette.
Was that back before he'd become the true feature back?
No, no.
It's basically his only bad game.
He had eight carries for 26 yards and three catches for 17 yards.
Right, so he didn't even get the workload.
Yeah, but it was in the midst of him becoming their lead back.
He had 20, 12, 22, 15 carries
in the four games before that.
He just had a stinker against Saints.
I'm just looking at how many targets Gio had
was what I was thinking,
because they were playing from behind,
and there was a period of time when Gio
was kind of their hurry-up, play-from-behind running back.
Who's going to find it first?
And it looks like he only had one catch.
Ronald Jones had one catch and three carries.
They had five,
seven touches for Jones and Gio in that game.
Fournette's one of those guys where,
man,
you're so happy to have him on your team.
One of the best ads or drafts of the year and draft picks of the year.
And you just kind of wish he was playing anyone else this week.
All right. So that's it for this game. Chiefs
DST is
in play. They've been on fire.
Just want to see where they are in the rankings.
Chiefs DST is
9th for Jamie, 14th for Dave,
19th for Heath. Heath, you're too low on the Chiefs.
They'll go up for me if Jones plays.
Maybe into the top 12.
Alright. Dynasty Talker, Fantasy Food. It's up for me if Jones plays. Okay. Maybe into the top 12. All right.
Dynasty talk or fantasy feud?
We can do the dynasty talk in like 30 seconds
and then do fantasy feud.
Let's do it.
Biggest riser this season for me, I think,
Elijah Mitchell, who we weren't even sure
was going to be one of the top three backs for the 49ers this season,
has, I think, really kind of mirrors, even though he was drafted, so it's slightly different,
what we saw last year from James Robinson and the meteoric rise in the dynasty ranks for Robinson,
who had a very, very good year.
Now, he didn't have the injuries that Mitchell has, but Mitchell now up into definitely the top 30
and a borderline top 20 dynasty running back right now,
but there's just significant risk also.
I think I saw somebody tweet,
if any of the running backs who were drafted in the first three rounds
had had a season like Mitchell,
they'd be a surefire top 10 dynasty running back right now,
and that's true.
But as Robinson's shown us, there's a much shorter leash when you're not one of the guys.
And it's partially different because Robinson had a new coaching staff.
Mitchell probably won't.
Okay.
Would you rather have Cam Akers or Elijah Mitchell in dynasty?
I'm coming around to acres being okay maybe it's the videos on the internet of him
doing things um i actually have them back to back acres at 25 mitchell at 26 okay your
father is christian mcafree it's it's hard not to be worried about the injuries. And now he doesn't really even have youth on his side. I believe he'll be 26 at the start of next season, so maybe you've I've got him at 10th.
He may creep up a little bit going into next year.
But yeah, I mean, there's uncertainty about whether he'll get the full McCaffrey workload,
whether he can hold up to that, and how many years you have left of him as an elite running back.
So who do you have?
Can you give us the top 10?
Taylor.
Swift. Harris, Eckler,
Obbins, Jubb, Alvin.
The one I really struggle with is Javante Williams.
DeAndre Swift number two is pretty wacky, by the way.
It's bold.
It's very bold.
I mean, part of it is he's 22 years old.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
He's younger than Najee Harris.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Good stuff.
Let's play the feud.
Dun-dun-dun.
Dun-dun-dun.
Dun-dun-dun.
Dun-dun-dun.
Yeah, we can't do the exact family feud theme because then we're going to get sued.
Right.
Well, you're going to get sued.
You did it. Well, no're going to get sued. You did it.
Well, no, I changed it at the end.
I'm pretty sure it's okay for us to do it with our voices
because we're not hitting the exact notes.
Oh, I have perfect pitch.
Yeah, I have perfect pitch.
I nailed it.
All right.
Top five answers are on the board.
Give me the leaders
in rushing yards.
Heath.
Jonathan Taylor. That is the number
one answer. Heath, pass or play?
I will...
I'll play.
Why not? Oh, okay, good.
Jonathan Taylor off the board.
I need the rest of the top five in rushing yards.
Derek Henry. Correct. Derrick Henry.
Correct.
He is fourth.
Joe Mixon.
Correct.
He is second.
Ooh, second.
Top five answers on the board.
Looking for rushing yard leaders.
We have three of the five so far.
This is gross.
Let me get the wrong buzzer queued up.
Yeah, you're going to need it for sure.
How much time do I have left?
Five seconds.
Austin Eckler.
Eckler is incorrect.
I can't believe this is right, but I'm running out of guys to guess, Eckler. Eckler is incorrect.
I can't believe this is right, but I'm running out
of guys to guess, so I'll say Dalvin
Cook. Dalvin Cook is third, believe it or not.
I was surprised by that. So I have first,
second, third, and fourth? Yes, you do. You need
who's fifth in rushing yards.
Five seconds.
Guess James Robbins.
Okay, you got one more guess.
I mean, I guess I'm just going to say
Najee Harris.
All right, Dave.
Not Najee.
The Richard family has a chance to steal.
We've got Taylor, Mixon, Cook, and Henry off the board.
Who is number five in rushing yards for all the points?
I was definitely going to guess Cook.
Oh, man.
This is probably a terrible guess.
Nick Chubb?
Nick Chubb is correct.
Yeah.
All right.
Najee Harris.
I'm the greatest fantasy Feud player ever.
Najee Harris was sixth.
Najee Harris was sixth.
Can we talk about what a dumb game this is?
No.
Not your version, but like the actual game that somebody gets 80% of the questions right and zero points.
And it's always a game going into the final question.
Yeah.
The thing is that what happens almost never matters until the last round.
It's really silly.
All right, top six answers are on the board.
Give me your points per game leaders in PPR at tight end.
The top six tight ends points per game.
Dave.
Mark Andrews.
That is correct, but it is not the number one answer.
Heath, you have a chance to get the number one answer
in control of the board.
George Kittle.
That is correct. Pass
or play?
I mean, why not? Let's play.
Alright, top six tight ends per game in
PPR. Kittle is... Do we have a minimum games
played?
No, but it don't...
They're all... Yeah, they're all... They've played.
Rob Gronkowski. I'm not saying they all
played every game. Yeah, Rob Gronkowski is
third, so you have one, two, and three. Kittle, Andrews, and Gronk Gronkowski is third so you have one, two, and three
Kittle, Andrews, and Gronk
Kelsey is fourth
you have one, two, three, four
Darren Waller
Waller is fifth
you have one, two, three, four, five
there's a reason I went top six on this one
Dawson Knox
hey what a sweep
by Heath Cummings
all right Heath crushing it
there you go
so one to one is the score.
This is perfect.
All right.
Final category.
The top five answers are on the board.
I'm looking for the top five.
You can't even get it out.
It's such a bad.
It's going to be like kickers.
The top five fantasy quarterbacks with only one syllable in their first name.
Dave. Dave.
Dave.
Dak Prescott.
He is number four.
Heath, you have a chance to control the board here.
Josh Allen.
He's number two.
All right.
Pass or play.
It's the top how many?
Top five fantasy quarterbacks with one syllable first names.
Top five fantasy quarterbacks with one syllable. No, you have to pass or play.
I'm going to play. Oh, he's going to play. Okay.
Now you can think about it. Tom Brady.
Tom Brady is number one. You have one,
two, and four. So I've got Brady, Allen, and Dak.
Mm-hmm.
Kirk Cousins. Yes! He's number three.
Ahead of Dak.
So that's four of five? five yes i don't know any other
quarterbacks with one syllable are we going points per game or total points uh i think this is total
points total points so it's just the first six quarterbacks in total points five five with the
first syllable in their name.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
One syllable.
You're going down the whole list.
All right.
The first five guys on the list that have the first syllable. Yes.
Got it.
Thank you for delaying a little bit for me.
Tom, Josh.
Mac Jones.
Tom, Josh, Kirk, and Dak are off the board.
Mac Jones is wrong.
Mac Jones is wrong. Mack Jones is wrong.
Five seconds.
I'm going to tell you guys that I am counting
Stafford as a Matthew, by the way.
Matthew Stafford. So it's not him.
But is Matt Ryan a Matt?
Matt Ryan is a is a matt uh
matt ryan is just kidding incorrect all right dave you have a chance to win the game with whatever
first name you're gonna say right here there's two quarterbacks i thought of and they could both
be wrong and i gotta pick one that's okay it's how we give your thought process who are you thinking i'm down to joe burrow and tua tongue of ioloa i don't know if
tua it's total points it can't be tua he hasn't played enough games my guess is joe burrow how
many syllables do you think are in tua it's definitely two of them oh all right fine burrow
burrow is correct yeah congratulations. Congratulations on getting two names.
Well, dude, you didn't give me a chance to play.
You hogged it all.
And by the way, if I had won any of the other toss-up questions,
I would have passed it to you anyway.
Always play.
Always play.
Never play.
Never.
One of my favorite pastimes is when we play Fantasy Field with Jamie,
and I always pass to Jamie because because i love watching him just oh yeah
yeah he's not great there's a much better job of it but like and i've been playing fantasy
food with jamie in probably three years but i used to constantly win the toss-up and pass to
him and just laugh he probably does the same thing to me. By the way, number six on the list of quarterbacks
with one syllable is
Ben Roethlisberger at number
21 overall.
Only five top 20
quarterbacks have one
syllable in their first name. Something
we should probably consider for next year.
All right, emails. FantasyFootball
at CBSi.com. We're going to fire through these.
This is from Chris. Give me a super flex. Taylor heineke tasem hill or cam newton tasem tasem and pick two james connor joe mixon
antonio gibson sit gibson as long as connor plays
okay now if you do sit gibson would you start at Superflex, Gibson, or Taysom Hill?
I don't know the format.
Taysom.
Probably Taysom.
This is from Ryan.
Hey, Fred, Kyle, Mark, and Serge.
No idea.
Full PPR, would you start Terry McLaurin,
Mike Davis, or Josh Reynolds?
Well, I mean, Terry McLaurin, Mike Davis, or Josh Reynolds? Well, I mean,
if McLaurin plays.
Oh, that was basketball, by the way.
Those are Raptors.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah, so McLaurin
if he plays, and who if not?
Mike Davis,
Josh Reynolds, or possibly Malcolm Brown.
What a terrible decision that you'd have to make. I think I'd lean toward Davis, Josh Reynolds, or possibly Malcolm Brown. What a terrible decision that you'd have to make.
I think I'd lean toward Davis.
That's more of like a safe play thing.
All right, from Eric.
Eric, dear Dick, Sally, Harry, and Tommy.
Is that when Harry met Sally?
Probably.
Or when Dick met Tommy.
Half PBR, Russ, Tua, or Ben? Tua. Russ the highest. that when harry met sally probably or when dick bet tommy uh half pbr russ tua or ben
uh russ the highest jua josh menthols or dionte foreman foreman foreman
what is oh no this is third rock from the sun not underrated show not when harry met sally not the best sitcom but an underrated sitcom
uh yeah i was back when i watched tv i don't know how it's rated but if it's rated good then i would
say it's not necessarily underrated uh from well you know you always hear about people talking
about yeah you know i know what you're saying the 90 the 90s, no one brings up Third Rock. Yeah, I agree.
Tyler,
pick three and a half PPR.
Aaron Jones,
Nick Chubb,
Javante Williams,
Sonny Michelle,
and Ramondre Stevenson.
Pick three.
Aaron Jones,
Chubb,
Javante,
Michelle,
and Stevenson.
What if, if Harris is out though,
Stevenson's in?
Right?
Right.
It's Chubb and Williams,
for sure. if no Henderson Stevenson if no Harris Jones
if both are back okay and then this is
from Marcus from a town in Ohio that
recently had its baseball team name
changed baseball team name changed?
There's a red moon rising.
I think it's Akron. On the Cuyahoga River.
Are you serious?
It's Cleveland.
Of course it's Cleveland, you nincompoop.
That was good acting.
Dear Jason...
That was the song from Major League.
Dear Jason, Jet, Terry, and Chuck.
I mean, I feel like that sounds like the TNT studio,
but probably not.
Yeah, I don't know.
Full PPR and a quarter point per carry.
Pick three of four.
Mixon, Daryl Henderson, Aaron Jones, Michael Carter.
So it's probably going to come down to Henderson and Carter.
Slightly in Carter unless we catch wind of Henderson
becoming the main
running back for the Rams.
And finally, in that same
question, if you sit Henderson,
would you start him or Ryan Tannehill in Superflex?
Tannehill.
Lean Tannehill.
This is Apple Podcasts now.
From Heath Patsfan.
This is another guy named Heath
that also likes to smoke meat as a hobby.
10-team Dynasty League.
What are the odds?
I have the luxury of having both Mahomes and Brady,
but this decision has baffled me.
Blah, blah, blah.
I seem to start the wrong one each week.
It's cost me at least two matchups.
So what do I do?
Mahomes or Brady going forward?
And what is Heath's favorite meat to smoke?
I'll answer the first question,
and I'll say Brady over Mahomes.
I'm going to say Brady over Mahomes,
and I think Brady's my number one quarterback this week.
I am just a little bit worried
about the success the Saints have had against Brady in the past. Their defense has been pretty good against him. That makes me nervous,
but I'm starting Brady. Favorite meat to smoke? Definitely pork butt is the most common meat I
smoke because that's, for me, the easiest like I can put that in, smoke it for
12 hours and it's going to be awesome every time. My favorite one when I do it right is definitely
the brisket because of the burnt ends. Hmm. Okay. Well, I'm going to end this show and go
get something to eat after one more question. It's from Gambino. Uh, would you start Aaron
Jones over James Connor orny Michelle this week?
I think this is an if-then answer.
If Conner's healthy and Chase Edmonds is being eased back in,
or better yet, not taken off of IR, then Conner would go in over Jones.
Well, let me hold on.
Let's go with what we know now.
Let's say Conner's in.
We don't know that, but let's say he's in.
And we know, we think Edmonds is going to play. Most likely scenario, Edmonds is going to play.
So Jones or Connor.
I think I'll still lean Connor over Aaron Jones.
Yes, but as long as Henderson's back,
I'm probably going Jones over Sonny Michel.
And pick a wide receiver and a flex in PPR.
Amari Cooper, Darnell Mooney, Devante Parker.
So let's start with that.
Wide receiver.
Cooper.
And then flex.
Mooney, Parker.
Oh, sorry.
Julio Jones is in there, too.
No, I think that's Aaron Jones.
I guess they're running backs from before.
So if they're running back, we're not starting.
Right.
Aaron Jones, Connor, Michelle.
So you could feasibly start Connor, Aaron Jones, and Amari Cooper.
I think I like that.
Parker would be the only other guy
I would give some consideration to.
I think he can start all three running backs
and Cooper, and that's what I would do.
I think the first question was,
is Aaron Jones in over Connor and Michelle,
who were both starting?
If Daryl Henderson plays in a full PPR league,
would you rather start Parker or Michelle?
Right now, with no new information,
I'm going to assume that Michelle is leading the backfield,
and so I would still start him over Parker.
Yep.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you, guys.
Thanks for the extended show today
and great conversations about some very difficult decisions.
Hopefully, help clear things up.
And have a wonderful day.
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