Fantasy Football Today - Week 16 Tough Calls, LAR-SEA Preview, Fantasy Cops! (12/17 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

Running through the news and notes (3:30) to start the show before we tackle the Week 16 tough calls! It starts with Omarion Hampton (8:00) and then we talk wide receivers with Emeka Egbuka and Tetairoa McMillan (13:40) in a huge NFC South battle! ... Ladd McConkey and DJ Moore (20:30) are tough calls! Can we trust Trevor Lawrence (27:45) or Breece Hall this week? And we have a quicker round of tough calls (34:35) from our audience including Harold Fannin Jr., Drake Maye and Quinshon Judkins ... Start or Sit for Rams-Seahawks (40:40) with tough calls on Matthew Stafford, Colby Parkinson and the DSTs. And we finish with Fantasy Cops (57:30) as we settle league disputes ... Your emails at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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No purchase necessary VGW Group. prohibited by law 21 plus tnc's apply this is fantasy football today from cbs sports what a play can you believe this it's time to dominate your fantasy league off to the races and he stays on his feet it's just going to go the distance now here's some combination of adam dave jamie and heath

yeah here we go welcome everybody to fantasy football today presented by ben fgm Make it legendary. Like that intro, Dave? No. Yes, I do. It was funny. I don't know if he does the full, yeah, here we go.

He just doesn't do that anymore? I think he's changed it up a little. Oh, I think. You might be right about that. We welcome you to fantasy football today, and today we are talking about Week 16 tough calls. Trevor Lawrence, Breeze Hall,

Emeka Abuka, the Chargers offense. Can they put up points against the Cowboys? Dak Prescott is a tough call. Drake May. Drake May in his last six games is the number... Jamie, Drake May in his last six games is the number blank quarterback in six point per passing touchdown leagues per game.

14. 11, 11. Not as bad as I thought. But not great, and Baltimore's been pretty good. So, Tedrole Macbillon, Emeka, Bucca, tough calls that people want to hear about today, and we will discuss. Guys, I am really...

NBA champs! Been weighed by a whole life, and we won. Let's go. Anyway, all right, let's get to the news and notes. We also have a Rams Seahawks preview. What, I mean, are you kidding me? Huge game in the NFL and huge fantasy game. I mean, we could have some crummy fantasy game that no one really cares,

but we can have a Brown's Titan or something. We've got Rams Seahawks and tough calls to kick off Week 16. That's awesome. Let's do some news and notes. The Jets released quarterback Adrian Martinez from the practice squad. So that could be an indication that one of their two typical starting quarterbacks is going to be good to go this week. Adonai Mitchell is 37% rostered. Maybe you might want to look for him.

Jamie Mike McDaniel did not rule out a quarterback change against the Bengals. What? What do you make of this? I mean, look, he was asked about it and he said everything's on the table. You understand that when you get eliminated from the play. You know, your job's on the line, you know, and your quarterback look like, you know, total booty cheeks in, in that game against the, against the Steelers. So why not? You know, he's trying to save his job.

And if Tua is not the way to do it, then he's going to, you know, explore something else. And maybe the, the message from ownership is let's see what Quinn Ewers can do or maybe what Zach Wilson could do. So wouldn't shock me if they bench Tua, but at this point, I think Tua still starts. Yeah, I think it does make it, I've seen many. Any Kobe Parkinson or Darren Waller questions here? And I feel like it complicates that. Maybe it gives us a little clarity there. Maybe you just go Parkinson if you don't know by Thursday night if Tua is starting.

I would imagine between today and tomorrow we'll get practice reports. The Dolphins beat riders are pretty good, you know, about who's getting those opportunities. And so as long as Tua starts, you go Waller, at least for me. If there's any question about Tua, then you go with Parkinson. All right. Josh Jacobs, I guess, kind of re-agravated the knee, and he would have been listed as a DNP if they had practiced yesterday. So I was all ready to drop Emmanuel Wilson in a few leagues for Michael Carter and some other guys.

And I said, I'm not going to drop him yet. Let's drop someone else. So just, you know, maybe don't drop Emmanuel Wilson just yet, because they play Saturday. Devante Adams has not been ruled out. They're going to give him every chance to play. We still don't think Adams is going to play Thursday at Seattle, but he has not been ruled out yet.

Sequan Barkley... Just go back to two weeks ago what we had with Montross St. Brown. Different injury, but... But he was Thursday to Thursday. He was Thursday to Thursday, correct. This reminds me of a Buka, who shockingly did not miss a game, but he was Sunday to Sunday, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah. Sequin Barclay and Eagles defensive tackle Jalen Carter were listed as did not practice, and Barclay has a stinger. So we're three offensive linemen for Philadelphia. Oh, yikes. All right. I don't think we're picking up Tank Bigsby yet, are we? I did in a couple of my deeper leagues.

I had the roster space to play around with, and it is the commanders this week. Yeah. Chris Rodriguez practiced in full, though. So if you were hoping for. of Cory Krosky Merritt. It's probably going to be a mess this week. Bad news for Bill. And their left tackle Laramie Tunzel mispractice.

Zonovan Knight is out for the season. Atlanta this week, then at Cincinnati. Josh Allen says he throws up pretty much every week. I guess the camera's caught him throwing up on the sideline. He said, that's nothing new. Happens pretty much every week, usually pregame, sometimes during halftime. Do you guys throw up before shows? No.

Not anymore? I do the opposite. You throw out. You throw down? That's not the opposite. You eat. Oh, you throw it. Houston sign running back

Jawar Jordan to the active roster I don't think that necessarily means anything about marks Maybe it does about Chubb They didn't want anybody to steal Right, that's what it is Devon Valle is week to week Christian Watson and Green Bay right tackle Zach Tom were listed as

Did Not Practice So were Roma Dunzei and Luther Burden That game member Chicago Green Bay is on Saturday Patrick Mahomes had surgery He had a torn ACL and LCL and dolphin safety, Minka Fitzpatrick, is week to week. I would say that's good news for Tyler Shuck. We were on CBS Sports Network yesterday.

We are on again tomorrow. Tyler Shuck is playing the dolphins? I have them. I'm sorry. Maybe Fitzpatrick is a voodoo doll of Tyler Shuck. And now that Fitzpatrick is on the shelf, it's like, okay, cool. No voodoo doll for Tyler Shuck. Oh, man.

I keep mixing up the Jets and Dolphins this week. I don't know why. It's good news for Joe Burrow, I guess. All right, CBS Sports Network, tomorrow, 1 p.m. Eastern, Dave, Jamie, and Heath going through their rankings and their tears for the week. Oh, Jacob's on. Jacob Gibbs is going to be on. Very cool.

Everybody's invited but me. Do you want to be on? No. All right. So I ask you guys for tough calls. And Dave, you have your week 16 all tough call team. I also ask people on Twitter for tough calls. And there's some overlap here.

so I would say I don't there's only one that I just don't agree with and Jamie maybe you can weigh in on this too but there's Trevor O'Mary in Hampton at Dallas

Breast Hall at New Orleans Emeka Buka at Carolina Lab McConkey at Dallas DJ Moore against Green Bay Harold Fanon against Buffalo our flex is Tetaro McMillan at Tampa Bay

and our DST is the Seahawks against the Rams Dave the only one I don't agree with, Jamie, who sat are you on? Is this a tough call? Is Omari and Hampton at Dallas? I really don't want to start him. You know, so that's kind of like I was leaning like,

I would like to go into the week with him as a sit. Jamie? I would like to go into the week with him as a sit. I would like to go into the week with Lawrence as a sit. I would like to go into the week with Fanon as a sit. All right, Dave, what do you think here? What do you think about Hampton? So why is that a tough call for you at Dallas?

it's really more the hope a lot of these guys you're hoping for big things from and you're kind of like overlooking the matchup ignoring the matchup not taking the matchup seriously and it might be the latter of those three that you might do with hampton but it's two weeks now that he's been back and he still hasn't dominated snap share the carries have been relatively close between him and videl and i think he's been the better running back overall but it's not by a lot and the offensive line isn't getting better for the chargers i know quinine williams isn't going to play for the Cowboys. That's a big deal figuratively and literally. But I'm nervous to rush him back even into my top 24. He's right on the cusp of someone who would be a good number two fantasy running back. And it has to do with just his utility over the last couple of the games. And that's what makes him a tough call for me. I think it's a, yeah, I think the Quinn and Williams factor. You said he's going to miss the game. He's in a concussion protocol. I don't know, I'm expecting him to me. You know, when you're in the concussion protocol, you usually miss a. week. Look, if he gets 15 carries against a Quinn and Williams list Cowboys team, then,

okay, you know what? Maybe I'm being a little, I'm rushing to judgment here. That could be very good. 15 carries for 61 yards. Like the last two weeks, 13 carries for 56 yards, 15 carries for 61 yards against the Eagles and the Chiefs. That's not bad. Only three catches in those two games. That's bad. Dallas, without Williams, could be really bad against the run. So, you know what? I think that actually is maybe a tough call. I think you go into it with him as a flex. And if he was playing more, I think that's a different story. We got lucky the first game that he scored touchdown.

They caught a touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's had 28 carries over the last two weeks. And Kamani Vidalas had 26. In general, I think one of the big questions of the week is this. Do you think the chargers are going to score, let's say, 24 points or more against the Cowboys? Yes.

I worry about it. Okay. I think Herbert has a nice bounceback game this week. What is the implied team total? Well, let's take a look. Now, I have to do some math, Dave. Oh, this is going to take forever. So they charge us as 2.00 under, it's pretty high.

It's 23-ish. Yeah, let's see, 50, you're 25. Yeah, it's about 23. Is there implied total? I'm getting close to 23 points wouldn't surprise me. It's having like, what do you say, 25? Yeah. 27 plus would be shocking. Just the way that this offense has operated the last couple of weeks. And I know it's Dallas and they're not going to be as good without Quinn and Williams there. But it would be shocking if they scored that many points. Let me see if I can convince you. So they lost Joe Alt in the middle of week nine. They played Tennessee that week. They scored 27 points that week. They scored 25 points, I think, against Pittsburgh. And,

31 points against Las Vegas. They had bad games at Jacksonville, Philadelphia, and at Kansas City. So I think you look at the last six games or five and a half games without alt. They've pretty much scored a good amount of points against bad defenses, and they've struggled against good defenses. Gave me a little bit more hope for him, more hope for DAC, more hope for, you know, the game, basically, when I saw that, because their offense has been terrible the last couple of couple weeks against good teams.

They also have one game this year, two games this year on the road where they've scored more than 20. That was against Miami. At the time, Miami's defense was booty cheeks. And then Tennessee, whose defense has been cheek of the booty for many, many years now. All right, so let's move off of Hampton here and get to some other guys. Before we do that, though, it is time for football at BetMGM. Register with BetMGM to get instant access to the best variety of part.

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because the listeners on Twitter also asked about them then playing each other. And again, is this going to be a high-scoring game? You got two of the worst offenses in football in terms of yards per play, Tampa Bay and Carolina. Tampa Bay can score a little bit better

than Carolina. But it's a Mecca Buka and Tetero and McMillan. Jamie, how do you feel about them? Do you think they're tough calls? I mean, they're definitely tough calls. I think in the case of McMillan, you hope that the matchup is something that he could take advantage of, and really, like you said, that these teams can score that

Tampa Bay scores, and we have to see Bryce Young throw the ball, and that's where McMillan will hopefully shine through. But he's certainly struggling lately. He got lucky with two of the last three games where he scored touchdowns. Last week was certainly frustrating to see the lack of, you know, basically everything for him. But again, I'm looking at this Tampa Bay secondary and what they've given up recently, and I'm hopeful that we see Tampa Bay get a lead. Bryce Young has to throw.

And if you tell me right now, he's going to be north of 30 pass attempts, I'm going to feel comfortable about McMillan as a number two receiver. Right. He's only done that three times, Bryce Young, more than 30 pass attempts. You know, I think it's, I don't really know what to say about that. I mean, sometimes it's like they don't have the ball that much. Okay, you know what? I found the games where they gave up a lot of points and still didn't throw.

And it was games where they ran really, really well. I mean, I remember the game of Rico, out against Miami at 200 yards, the game against the Rams recently, where they ran the ball a ton. Are they going to be able to do that against the bucks? That could really affect McMillan. Dave, what do you think about McMillan and Abuca? I feel like they've both been let down receivers, certainly from what we saw from Abuca earlier this year and McMillan at times throughout the year.

Almost feels like the floor has kind of come out on both of them. And you could end up with some really rotten games. and that's why they're flex plays. I know the matchups are favorable, but I don't have the same type of confidence that I did a few weeks ago for both of these wide receivers. And I'm worried about the target volume, especially for McMillan because Jalen Coker started to come on.

This is a Panthers team. If the game script does go the right way and they do run the ball, forget about 200 yards rushing, but if they do run the ball a decent amount, sorry about that. The dog's going crazy. I think there are flex plays as well You're going to have to excuse me for a second

Rough, rough, rough, rough Not mine for once Not yours I think in the case of Abuka You know, Dave Say is worried about targets for McMillan I'm worried about targets for Abuka Because now that everybody's healthy They don't have to try and feed him

And so what we see last week We saw six targets, right? I think it was six He had seven targets Do you want me to terrify you though? When Mike Evans was on the field, Emeka Abuka had a 13% target share. When Evans was off the field, he had a, oh gosh, where it is? A much higher, I'm sorry, I lost it in my notes,

a much higher target chair. And Evans didn't play the full snapshot. He ran 70% of the routes. He also moved to the slot. He played basically outside pretty much every snap when Evans was off the field. and he became, he was a sloat guy, 43% of the snaps when Evans was on the field. I don't think the splits will be that dramatic, but a lot of the production from last week,

which was four catches for 64 on seven targets, came when Evans was not on the field. Yeah, and this is not, you know, season long, the numbers are not good in terms of wide receivers facing the Panthers. So I'm more concerned about Abuka than I am McMillan. Okay, so you'd take McMillan over Abuk. You take McMillan over Abuga. Dave, how about you? Say that again? Do you want me to ask my dog?

Yeah. He's right here. Hold on. Come here, you. Oh, jeez. Yeah. Okay. Oh, it's,

what do you think? Petro-O-Mickman or Mika. What do you think? Ruff, Ruff. Wow, he likes McMillan more than a Bucca. And I do, too. I just think that there's a better chance of a touchdown in a big breakout game.

I like, what the hell? I like the, I like the matchup better for McMillan than a Bucca. All right. More tough calls after this break. We'll break down the wide receiver

position a little bit more. We'll be right back on fantasy football today. Okay, welcome back. We've talked about Hampton. We've talked about Abuka and McMillan. Are these guys in your top 24? No. No.

Top 30? Yes. They've made the cut. I'm sorry. McMillan is in my top 24. Yes. So let's see. I don't have the wide receiver rankings.

This is the top 150. Let me get the wide receiver rankings up here. Would you start, all right, you got two more guys on the tough call list. Ladd-McConkie and DJ Moore. So under the assumption that Burden and O'Donzee don't play, I think, you know, then more becomes super interesting. So would you start McConkey at Dallas or DJ Moore, Dave, against Green Bay over McMillan and Abuka? Yes. And these two receivers are in my top 24. And that is based on burden being out. It definitely seems like Odunze is unlikely to play on Saturday. It's easy to look at the opportunity and the matchup and all that stuff for DJ Moore. And all it takes is ignoring what DJ Moore has done before last week. Over the course of the season, his floor has been minuscule. So if he if he has this opportunity to see seven plus tar against the zone heavy defense that can't rush the quarterback like they did earlier this year,

he should be able to go off. He's actually their leader over their last four games in red zone targets and end zone targets. That's a big deal. And so I think you could coax yourself into starting DJ more. I can also coax myself into starting Ladd-McConkie because without Quinn and Williams in Dallas, maybe that pass rush isn't as bad. The interior pass rush, those A-gap blitzes that you see, the charges should be able to handle that better. And that could mean easier throws, a little bit more time for Justin Herbert to throw to McConkey.

A lot of McConkey's routes are inside of 15 yards anyway, so the volume should be there for him, and maybe he can make a play after the catch. And we know that the Cowboys secondary isn't very good to begin with. So they're both low-end number two receivers for me this week. You just have to ignore the floor. and the fact that they could go into this game and finish three catches, 25 yards. That would be gross. That would be ugly.

That would be Justin Jefferson-esque. But they've got more upside. I think they have more upside than both Abuka and McMillan. It's hard. I mean, you look at Lab McConkey, and he has scored fewer than five points in three of his last four games. That's amazing. I don't even know. Dallas is 32nd against wide receivers.

Jamie, of the four receivers we've talked about, Abuka, McMillan, McConkey, and DJ Moore, who's your favorite? McMillan, just based on, again, the matchup against Tampa Bay and how I kind of see the game going, McConkey is second, Moore is third, and Abuka's fourth. But the, Abuka's the only one not in the top 24 for me. So I have almost essentially back-to-back, McMillan, McConkey, and more. Who's your favorite, Dave? McCawkey. Oh, man.

I'm going to read the consensus rankings, and you guys stop me when you think it gets difficult. Chase, Puka. Don, stop. We're there. St. Brown, J.S.N. Michael Wilson, which we're assuming no, Marvin Harrison. C.D. Lamb, Nico Collins, Jameson, A.J. Brown, Chris O'Lave,

Rishi Rice, Cortland Sutton, George Pickens, Mike Evans, Wondale Robinson, Joanne Jennings, Jalen Waddle, Terry McLaurin, D.K. Metcalfe, Zay Flowers. We're in the difficult part now, right?

I mean... Yeah, yeah. Okay. Fun exercise. All right. How about Breast Hall, Dave? He's been so bad lately at New Orleans. Think, let me just...

They're at New Orleans, right? Yeah. Yes. Why is he a tough call? Because... I traded for Mega Fitzpatrick, yes. he's a tough call because you know that he is generally good for a big workload you know that he gets a bunch of high value touches and you know that he can give you

15 fantasy points in a ppr pretty easily he hasn't done that a lot lately you make the argument he hasn't been great this year at doing that as consistently as we want but it's really not that bad of a matchup i watched the saints film yesterday they're deep defense is okay. They're really good at like clogging rush lanes. And that's it. And if so, if Breeze Hall is used as a receiver, used out of the backfield a little bit more, I think he can be okay. And I think we know that in our minds. But then you just think about the downside and the floor. This is the exact same type of conversation that we just had with McConkey and DJ Moore. And it makes you nervous to start him. And this is somebody that we were hoping to start.

And then take all of what I said, compare it with running backs. We can do the same game we just played where it gets tough at the running back position. Dude, it gets tough early at the running back position. And starting Brise Hall over a Seattle running back, a Pittsburgh running back, like you might have a hard time doing something like that. And so he's going to be challenging. And yet at the same time, I don't know if I can name 15 other running backs that aren't in the same boat as him. all right let's do it tell me when it gets difficult gibbs beijon a chan mcalfrey this is the consensus rankings in ppr

james cook jonathan taylor berkeley etienne jaco jaco jose brown rico doughtall javanti will all right javante i mean jvante williams as long as he's healthy i think is easy i would put jvante over rico okay dowdell seventh for heath and sixteenth for jamey and 12 for Dave Trayvion Henderson DeAndre Swift I think it's you know

those guys are not I mean Trayvon Henderson I think is a tough call he's got a much tougher matchup than he had last week Sort of Sort of We should talk about him

Derek Henry Buckie Irving Kyron Williams I think once we get past this we're 17 running backs deep Once we get past this Then it's tough for calls Woody Mark

Kenneth Gainwell, Tyrone Tracy, Quintan Judkins. Now you're there for me. Okay. Gentie, Breece Hall, Aaron Jones, Michael Carter, Tony Pollard. Yeah, I'm starting Gainwell overhaul this week, Tracy overhaul this week, Michael Carter overhaul this week, Woody Marks that he plays overhaul this week. I think they're just all in better. Aaron Jones overhaul this week, I think they're just all in better spots. Yeah, Gainwell.

Especially if Brady Cook starts. I'm pretty sure I feel good that Gainwell is going to catch five or more even though Detroit really good against the run against past catching running backs and you look at it though they really haven't faced a lot of teams that throw to their running backs

okay so that that should be that should be pretty solid there I just don't know what the split's going to be because Jalen Warren he looks like he was about to fall asleep during his post game interview he was pretty sick so I just wonder

what the split's going to be because Gainwell had four carries the week before, you know? I think the split's going to be is there behind and Gainwold's on the field a lot. All right. Fair enough. Trevor Lawrence at Denver. It's definitely somebody people wanted to know about. I think we'd like to avoid him. So we said yesterday, like the waiver wire guys, the McCarthy's of the world and the, who was it,

the Shucks and the Bryce Youngs and the Minchus are behind him. But does that change at all? Are they still behind Lawrence? I have McCarthy out of Lawrence. They're all still behind for me. I think, again, the upside downside conversation about all these guys, including Lawrence, kind of puts them around for me like a median of about 18 fantasy points. And so we just saw Lawrence go for 50.

We've seen him go for consistently 23 plus in the last month. Like, I don't want to trust McCarthy with 160 yards and three touchdowns. I don't want to trust Gardner Minchin who's thrown. in five passes this season. I don't want to trust Kirk Cousins who could easily hand the ball off 30 times, 40 times if Alger's involved in a matchup against the Cardinals that can't

stop the run. So I think what we'll see from Lawrence is having to throw a little bit more than expected and that hopefully will help him a little bit. But we've seen this Denver defense. One quarterback in Denver over 20 fantasy points. Only four quarterbacks in Denver,

only four quarterbacks against Denver on the season over 20 fantasy points. Only one guy has done that week seven and that was mariotta so i just don't think lawrence is is safe this week but again i don't think any of those other quarterbacks mccarthy cousins any of those guys are should be considered safe no i agree with you what about this is to line up somebody against lawrence and then i have a lawrence question after shuck going up against the defense that trevor lawrence just absolutely crushed yeah i did you think of him as maybe a little bit safer and would you take him over Lawrence?

I don't think he's safe. We also saw, and again, this kind of plays into the backfield for the Saints, but we saw, I believe it's four or five quarterbacks in a row, score 15 points or less against the Jets because everybody just runs on them. Now, that could not be the case for the Saints because they're potentially down both their top running backs in Camara and Devin Neal. But that also could still be, hey, you should go get, Audrey Gestaime and Evan Hull

because that could be what the Saints game plan is because they may actually play with the lead in this game and not have to rely on Tyler suck to have these sort of fourth quarter heroics. So again I wouldn't put the word safe with any of those guys any of the way of our guys. There's

huge upside with all of them though. You know, Minchew, Chuck, Young, cousins, McCarthy. You know, we've seen it at times for almost all of them. But we've also seen it with Lawrence. That's why I have him ahead of those guys. All right. The question with Lawrence, does his

rushing floor help sell you on Lawrence in a tough matchup because you mentioned that Darts the only quarterback to get 20 plus against Denver in Denver and running was obviously it's part of what Jackson DART does and Trevor Lawrence ran for a touchdown last week he's had a number of games this year where he runs a decent amount do you do you buy into that as okay at least I know I'll get two to six fantasy points from Lawrence's legs and then that can help set up a decent floor of let's call it 18 fantasy points in a six point per passing touchdown league three of the four quarterbacks i forget of the fourth was but three of the four quarterbacks have had success running against denver dart was one daniel jones in week two was one and mariotta in week

13 was one so the quarterbacks that have done well against them have used their legs and that's certainly been a part of trevor lawrence's game under leam cohen but again like what for me like how i'm ranking these guys, I'm expecting him to kind of max out at around 18 to 20 points. And that's why he's ranked where he is. It's a fairly good week for quarterbacks if you sort of bypass a couple of bad matchups, one being Dak Prescott, the other potentially being Baker Mayfield in terms of his history against Carolina. But like for the most part, we have some pretty good scenarios here for the position.

There's a lot of questions. But I think when you get to the back end of like the top 24 with all these backup quarterbacks, Like one or two of these guys are going to be great. It's a question of like, can somebody like Mariotta, excuse me, like Lawrence take advantage of this Denver defense? Can Caleb Williams and Jordan Love in their respective matchups, which could be, you know, one of these typical NFC North Slug Fest. Can they take advantage of it? And then the big one for me is Jackson Dart because Minnesota has just erased some great quarterbacks. And Dart is really tough.

So Dart is, to me, a little bit tougher than actually Lawrence. Yeah, you guys have Lawrence, everybody has him 17th or 18th. So he's basically a sit. That's because there's no teams on by, and there's just, it seems like a good week for quarterback, as Jamie was saying. But Dart, so I am in a 10-team league. I'm in the semifinals. So I have Dak and Dart this week.

I'm starting Dak. I dropped Dart. The guy I'm playing against had Trevor Lawrence. I dropped Dart to pick up Bo Nix, so he couldn't get Bo Nix. He ended up picking up CJ Stroud. I'm curious to see if he goes and pick up. up Dart now, and I wouldn't mind that. I wouldn't mind him playing dart against because I do not want to start Jackson Dart. I wouldn't mind facing him. I just haven't loved what I've seen

from the Giants offense the last two weeks at New England and home against Washington. I know he put together a good stat line at the end, but no, Minnesota, they're just like, what else do you need to see? I mean, they just held Dak Prescott to 12 fantasy points in Dallas. They're incredible right now. And Dak is the first quarterback since week seven to throw for over 200 yards against them. Yeah. They've allowed in that last six games one touchdown to opposing quarterbacks.

And it's not just Dak. It's Dak. It's Dak. It's Daniels. Because he played in that game. It's Sam Darnold. It's Caleb Williams. It's Jordan Love.

Like they have done it against a very good group of quarterbacks. And they've done it in a very dominating way. And so Dart has only one game this season under 19 fantasy points as a starter. Nine starts. Yeah. And so it's hard to get away. back against the Patriots, right? It's hard to get away from, yeah.

But I just think you look at the body of work for what these quarterbacks are. Like, I would much rather start C.J. Stroud and Bo Nicks over Jackson Dart. To be fair to Dart, I do think the weather, just wasn't great last week. And I think it kind of affected him a little bit. They still ran for 63 yards. Like, you're going to get that. And the weather thing looks like it's going to be pretty solid. And here's the other thing about Minnesota.

They're eighth in terms of fewest rushing yards allowed to oppose a quarterback. So you're not going to get easy yards that way from dark. But they don't have Jonathan Grenard. that does help. All right. So let's go rapid fire on the rest of the tough calls here or I'll give you 30 seconds on each.

Harold Fanon against Buffalo, Dave. Love the role he has and the Brown's offense. Hate the matchup. So I've got him as a start in full PPR. I think I'm probably going to just find myself moving them down and down

as the week goes on because I think he'll be pretty inefficient. Parkinson over Fanon? Not there yet. Not in full PPR. Yes. How about Schultz? I think tough called, too.

Schultz are fanning. Anybody not playing Buffalo over Fanon for the moment? I get it. Totally got it. All right. Next up, we'll do Seahawks DST when we talk about Thursday night football. The audience ones were McMillan Abuka, who was after that? Drake May, Drake May, number 11 quarterback in his last six games, as I mentioned.

He's basically on the same exact yardage. pace as he was in his first eight games when he was phenomenal, but the touchdown interception ratio has tapered off. He went from, he's on pace for 23 touchdowns, 11 picks in his last six games. His yards per carry is way down, which is probably a fluke, and his deep balls. Okay, his first eight games, he completed 17 of 26 deep ball attempts, five touchdowns. Last six games, only nine of 28, one touchdown. So Drake May at Baltimore, Jamie, where do you have him ranked?

Actually, I have him ninth, so the graphics, not updated. But, you know, we're all in the same spot. I think just in the case of May, similar to DAC, similar to if you're still starting dart, you know, the quarterbacks that you may not love their scenarios, love their matchups. I just think in the case of Baltimore, they played really well last week. To me, it was more about Joe Burrow than it was about the Ravens defense. they still struggle to rush the passer.

I still have questions about the majority of their secondary, and I think this is an opportunity here for Drake May to sort of bounce back, to what extent we'll find out. I don't think he's going to be a top three quarterback, but I still think if you got this far with Drake May, you should still start Drake May. I'd love to see him get back to running the ball and using his legs because I think that's a big part of his game,

so for fantasy. So for me, I still trust him as a number one quarterback, but clearly not to the same level. But I also like what you said about some of the quarterbacks this week. like Brock Purdy, you should trust him against the Colts more so than you should. Drake May. Jacobi Brissette at this point, obviously you should trust more than Drake May. All right.

In the chat, Drake May or Joe Burrow? Yeah, I have that decision in a couple of leagues. I'm going to take the chance with Burrow because of what the Dolphins defense has looked like the majority of the season. And the only quarterbacks of Dolphins have really done well against have been a lot of booty cheat guys. So I think just, you know, Burrow, I like what Zach Taylor said that they want to win. I'm sure Burrow wants to end his season on a high note, and they can in their final two games. Certainly this game against the Dolphins, there's no, as far as I know, no weather concerns.

I don't think it's going to rain. You know, Burroughs should come out and light up this Dolphins defense without makeup Fitzpatrick on a short week for them. And now the dolphins, knowing that their seasons officially over as well, I think Burrow goes out on a high note and week 16 for sure. Plus, if the dolphins are going to start resting veterans for whatever reason, they're going to do it on both. sides of the ball. It won't just be a quarterback. Drake Mayor Stafford. Stafford. I just think Stafford's in a better spot, so I go Stafford, but they're

close. Better spot. All right. I will question you on that shortly here. It is crazy that we are going to think about maybe benching the number two quarterback in fantasy in your fantasy semifinals. But I'm very excited to preview that game. So I'll give you just one more real quick.

How about we finish with Quinn Sean Judkins against one of the worst run defenses in football against Buffalo. Is this a tough call, Dave? I think you need to have a little bit of courage to start them. And I think the only reason why you would start them is because you're hoping for the workload to be there and for some breakaway runs against, like you said, the worst run defense in Buffalo.

One of the worst. One of the worst. The Giants are still playing. So I get why there would be some concern over starting Quinn-Shon Judkins. He doesn't catch the ball much. the Browns don't score a lot. You're hoping for just a couple of breakaway runs and something that finishes in the end zone.

But it's tough to buy into. And this could be a game where the bills maybe really focus on stopping the run and trying to build some momentum on that front. All right. We're going to take a break and fired up to talk Seattle and the Rams

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We're back. We're better. Let's get it. Thursday night football. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Yes. Are you kidding me? Two, 11 and three teams. Rams, this is a division battle here.

Rams and Seahawks tied for first in the conference and obviously in the NFC West. And the winner of this game, unless I'm crazy, will have the one seed for the time being. Well, both could be true. Yeah, yeah, yep. Right now, let's see, right now Seattle, because the Rams are the one seed.

It's great how the reindeer is right on Dave's forehead. Right now Seattle is the five seed Oh, put it back, put it back So that's what's at stake You're either the one seed or the five seed This is like Minnesota and Detroit last year At the very end of the year Yeah, yeah, yeah

Oh, Sam Donald was great in that game Oh boy, oh Jamie, oh man, bringing that up Okay, so These are two of the top three I think that's bad Wait a hear about Sam Donald against the Rams I already know When to you see that these are two of the top three defenses in football,

points per game allowed. Houston's first, Seattle's second, Rams are third, yards per play. Seattle's first, Rams are seventh. I love this stat. These two teams have allowed a combined seven running back carries of more than 13 yards. Seattle's allowed four, and two of them were to Kyron Williams. And the Rams have allowed three running back carries longer than 13 yards, and one of them was to Ken Walker.

So let's start with this. Who are the easy starts in this game, Jamie? Pugua, Jackson, Smith, Nijigba. And I'm going to say Matthew Stafford, Colby Parkinson, Kairn Williams. So all of the ramps, basically. That's fine. I mean, it's just, it's funny to me.

I mean, I'm just not sitting those guys. In the case of Parkinson, I'm starting him. But in the case of the normal Rams that I'd be starting, like I'm not benching Kairn Williams. All right, Dave, who are the easy starts for you? Basically the same guys. I don't think Colby Parkinson will take a little bit of courage. I know that it's a good matchup and he's been rolling great

and you can make the case for his red zone skills. It makes him easier to start, but it's still Colby Parkinson. It's still not necessarily a great situation. And it's a tough position. And there is a part of me that is a scared little boy that this ends up being a low-scoring, sloppy back-and-forth game where the defenses dominate. And so it's, I can't help myself. It's not like I can really build a convincing case to sit Nakua and Jigba, Stafford, although he's not ranked as high as he normally is. And Kyron Williams, like those guys, I think they're locked in.

I think everybody else, you've got at least question. and that does include Parkinson. Include Stafford for me. So if we look at what I would consider his tough matchups, he scored 15.6 fantasy points against Houston in week one. 17.8 fantasy points at Philadelphia. This is all 16, 6 point per passing touchdown leagues. 11.3 fantasy points at Baltimore with Pooka and Akua leaving with an injury.

I don't even know if that was a tough matchup at that point. I think it was. 17.2 points against Seattle on 28 pass attempts. 15.6 fantasy points at Carolina. And then the only team that was ranked in the top 10 at the time of playing Stafford, I believe that he had a good game against was Arizona, but they've kind of fallen apart

and that was a couple of weeks ago. So basically, he has not been good in tough matchups. He scored only 17.2 fantasy points against Seattle. I went back, I watched every throw. And he had some chances there. It could have been a better game. They only had the ball for 22 minutes. but he averaged 4.6 yards per attempt.

That was a season low by far. You know, there was a Pooka Nakuwa. There was an underthrown ball to Pookanakua that could have been a big play. Basically, my takeaway was he could have had an okay, he could have had a decent game, but he was a little off. Seattle's really good.

So, look, I mean, Stafford's eighth for you, Jamie, I think, and like 11th for Dave or something? No, I mean, he's sixth for me. Oh, he's 11th for Heath. Again, I think if you have Berset, you have Purdy, golf. That's probably the extent of any other waiver wire guys

or guys that might have been dropped at some point during the season. I'm not starting J.J. McCarthy or Gardner Minchie over Matthew Stafford. That's crazy. No, but Stafford himself was a waiver wire guy, so it's very possible that people have Jalen Hertz and Matthew Stafford or... Sure. Well, I mean, again, if you've been dealing

with that situation all season long, so we just got that question in the chat from Eddie, like Stafford or Hertz, like you go Hertz. That's understandable. And I would go Brissette over Stafford also. So, you know, if you have, you know, some quarterbacks who are in good matchups and playing well, I get it. You know, and another waiver wire guy just based on how the situation unfold is Joe Burrow. And I think you can make a case Burrow over Stafford also just because of his matchup.

So do it. Yeah, I could put you feet to the fire here, Borough or Stafford. Right now, I believe I have Stafford one spot ahead of Burrow, but I could see myself changing that one, especially if the weather is bad in Seattle. Look, he doesn't have Devante Adams. that's a big part of this also. So I just think, like, again, this is the type of decision that you make. And if it goes wrong, you are going to feel very awful about your fantasy season, the entirety of the next eight months.

He's just too good. I think Seattle's defense is amazing. There's no question about it. But he's the MVP of the NFL for a reason. Or he's, you know, top two in the discussion for a reason. And this is the type of game where you expect him to. to rise above and play at a good enough level. Is it going to have 30 points?

I doubt it. Is it going to get you in that 20 to 25 point range? That's kind of where I'm expecting. That's why I have them ranked that way. So a good enough game to where Stafford helps you win isn't the reason why you win. Okay. I wouldn't rule out a three touchdown game just because I think Seattle's offense is not going to hold up its end of the bargain. And it could turn into turnovers that give Stafford some advantageous field position.

and could lead to maybe an extra possession or two that ends in a touchdown. He's still tough matchup on the road. If the weather's really bad, then obviously that's going to drive down his ceiling too. But assuming that there isn't a major weather issue, I think you still have to consider the literal ceiling for Stafford. And he still can be the QB1, even in the stuff matchup,

because in part, I don't think Seattle's offense is going to do very well. Well, I think it is going to rain. It's supposed to rain in this game. I thought I saw cloudy and not rain. I'll double check right now. I actually have this thing called a computer. Yeah, I think it's going to rain, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be bad. Now, Kyron Williams, all right?

Let's do this. Sit Sam Darnold, right? We don't really want to start Trevor Lawrence, but we'd rather start him than Darnold. He's combined for 18 fantasy points in his last two meetings against the Rams. One with the Vikings in the playoffs and the four-point dud that he's. had with the four interceptions this year they totally have his number it's going to be i i had a league where my quarterbacks were mahomes and darnald and the whole idea was darnells the backup in case anything happens to mahomes well something has happened to mahomes and i'm going to keep

darnald because maybe i'll use them in week 17 if i win this week i i spent a good amount of fab to lock up tyler shuck and i'm starting tyler shuck in the fantasy playoffs what the hell is wrong with me but here i am doing that because i lost my homes and i'd rather start shuck i'd rather most of those waiver wire QBs over Darnold. Because not only have the Rams had his number, but he might be without his starting tackle Charles Cross, and that's a big loss for Seattle. That's going to be tough on them.

And we've got to get away from Ken Walker at this point, right? I mean... Totally. I mean, it's unfortunate because... That's not even a hard call anymore. You know, but you guys had the argument, I'll use that word loosely, about had he been running well.

And I think you were right at him. He has been running well. They just don't give him enough chances. They don't give him the high-level touches. The work in the passing game has gone away. It was kind of shocking that he had the game against the Rams that he did because at that point, even then, he wasn't playing very old. Now, Kyran, on the other hand, so he just keeps producing, and they run on everyone.

I mean, tough matchups, it does not matter. He had 12 carries for 91 yards and a touchdown against Seattle. But you know, he doesn't catch the ball very often, and he's rarely more than 13 carries. He had 15 last week. He had two touchdowns. I mean, they play eight offensive linemen at times. All right. So, Kiron, he's not in the top 12, but he's not far.

Like, yeah, I mean, I assume he'll be started in most leagues. Would you start, Bucky Irving or Kairn Williams? I would take the chance on Bucky, but it's close. Javante Williams or Kairn Williams? Jvante. Jvante, but it's close. Jonathan Taylor or Kiron? J.T.

Taylor. All right. And then Corum, we can't trust. If he doesn't score, he's in trouble. So, yeah, if, should we even do it if Adams plays? I mean, if Adams plays, would you trust them? Yeah, I'd lower expectations. I think it's hard not to start Adams if he's out there in your fantasy semifinals,

but again, who you're comparing him to. So, you know, some of the guys that we named, I would start him over McMillan, over McConkey, over, you know, those guys. You know, it'd be tough call, let's say, with, like, a Cortland Sutton right now, or, I mean, Michael Wilson's easy, you know, so I don't think it's a slam dunk, but for the most part, you're starting him. Three for 30 and a touchdown wouldn't surprise me if he goes without practicing all week,

and then he shows up for the game. Okay, so then let's talk about Colby Parkinson. We talked about him a lot on yesterday's show, but you guys have him in the top 10, I believe. Heath is not as high on Colby Parkinson. I thought we'd have a chance to talk about that. Unfortunately, Heath doing something charitable today, so he wasn't able to join the show. but he has a touchdown in five of his last six games. In his last six games, he has 14 red zone targets,

seven green zone targets in six games and five end zone targets. It's unbelievable. Five touchdowns. And he's been running a lot of routes lately. Seattle allows the sixth most fantasy points to tight ends. I'm nervous that it's going to be a different tight end that's good in this game just randomly. That kind of happens sometimes with these teams that play three tight ends.

but I am excited to in a week where I think tight end really sucks I'm excited to start Kobe Parkinson like I'm starting him over Tyler Warren and I'm probably starting him over Dalton Schultz so I don't know how you feel about those two guys I would too I dropped Warren in the league last night to pick up Kobe Parkinson it felt gross

yeah felt really gross I'm probably going to do the same thing in another league too where I'm dropping Tyler Warren because his last three weeks have been miserable and I don't trust Philip Rivers even though the matchup's not horrible, but this matchup is great. The opportunity is great. We could easily get burned by this, similar to Isaiah likely last week,

although the track record for Parkinson is a little bit safer because of the touchdowns. You don't want to chase touchdowns, but he's done it so many times. He's done it against his team, and this team has been bad against tight ends. I mean, you know, I'll go back to it. My favorite, here's why Seattle sucks against tight ends is the Max Brosmer game where T.J. Hawkinson had one of his best games of the season, despite Brosmer, turning the ball over, every chance he got. They just do not defend the position well. Now, that may change because of the lack

of Devante Adams on the field, and they could focus more on trying to take away Parkinson and Ferguson and Davis Allen and the three tight ends that they use. But that's why the Rams and Sean McVey are so creative, you know, getting those three guys on the field together, it's hard to defend that. And clearly right now, Parkinson is locked in with Stafford. And you just saw a game where Adams got hurt. And as you mentioned yesterday, Adam, it wasn't just because Adams got hurt, but we saw season high seven targets, season high, catches. Season high, 75 yards receiving, and season high, two touchdowns. Like, you don't get a better example of this guy is hot right now. Matchup's great.

Opportunity is great. Like, it's all sort of falling in line. It's worth taking the chance on. If it blows up in your face, it's going to blow up my face, your face. A lot of people's faces just because of how this could go because it's Colby Parkinson and the track record of his career is what it is. But there's also a sample size of a Rams tight end at the end of the season getting really hot and helping a lot of fantasy managers win championships once upon a time.

So this offense has done it before, and they think they could do it again. Tyler Higby, about four or five years ago. Don't forget that his main competition for Red Zone targets has been Devante Adams. And so if Devante Adams isn't around, that should open up the door. It makes them trustworthy. It's just how far does that trust really go. If you started Isaiah likely last week or if you've been slogging through Warren, it's easy to go with Parkinson over them.

Give me your quick thoughts on Rashid Shaheed, who's had a couple of start-worthy games, Dave, in a row. Should have had a touchdown last week. It was a bad throw by Sam Darnold on a post route that if he had caught, we'd feel a lot better about Shaheed. I think you have to be really desperate at receiver to go with Rashid Shahid. Okay. And then the DSTs. Which DST do you guys like better? Rams.

I believe I have the Rams ranked higher. And if not, I should. Seattle. Rams DST against good offenses. They were bad at Philadelphia, bad twice against San Francisco. They were great at Jacksonville. Well, that was in London. They weren't really that good bad.

They were great against Seattle, great against Tampa Bay. So they've been, they've had some success there. Seattle's DST against good offenses. Very good against the Niners. Terrible against the Bucks. Terrible at the Rams. Kind of mixed results for that. It's a tough call.

It's a tough call. Start the chiefs over these two? Yes. Yeah. Start the bills over them? Yeah. I think I would. Okay.

All right, let's go to the chat and see what people were asking here. How about Drake May or Matthew Stafford? Stafford. Stafford, but it's close. Kyron Williams or Travian Henderson? I believe they're back to back. And I feel safer with Kyron, but it's... That's how I feel.

I struggle with this because, you know, Henderson had a huge game last week, but, like, one of those touchdown runs was fluky to me. And we know what the body of work has been with him and Ramandre Stevenson. Now, maybe the post-buy production kicks in for the rookie. I don't think either one has clearly an easy match up here. But as Dave said, I feel a little bit safer with Kyron. Bowers or Parkinson? Still Bowers for me.

Yep. Warren or Parkinson. Colby. Parkinson. Stafford or Bow-Nicks. And Blake Corum or Parkinson in the Flex. I would go both Rams. Yep.

Man, I feel like I want to go Bo Nix there. I get it. Good matchup at home. You know? Burrow, Stafford, or Stroud? Stafford has him now. Agreed. I think I'll keep it that way.

The thing about Bo Nix is if they don't have R.J. Harvey, if he manages to miss this game, what's left in their backfield? I think it just puts more on the plate of Bo Nix. He could have another outstanding game. Stafford. And he basically, hold on. He basically did. have an outstanding game with R.J. Harvey

last week against a tougher opponent. Stafford or Love? I could talk myself into Bone Knicks over Stafford. Okay, Stafford or Jordan Love? Stafford. Tyron Williams or Traybion? Oh, did that. Sorry. We did that one. Blake Corum, Alger or Rico Dowdell?

Rico. Colby Parkinson or Dallas Goddard? Parkinson. So I have Goddard, I think a notch ahead of Parkinson in my rankings. He's been part of the to the offensive turnaround. I'm using air quotes in Philadelphia.

And last one, Prescott or Stafford? Stafford. Matthew Stafford. You said DAC, Jamie? No, I'm sorry. I changed that this morning. Stafford. All right.

All right. We spent a lot of time on that game. Hopefully it was helpful. It's a big one, and that is Thursday night football. Na, nah, nah, nah. I've got some emails,

but I've also got some. Hold on. One second. Can't? Holding. Fantasy cops! All right. Fantasy cops from Tyson. I am the commission... And by the way, if you want, I can read the text messages.

I am the commissioner of our family fantasy league. In the first year, yeah, in the first year, I have a dispute in hand in the playoffs. For context, we attempted to have our grandparents as a team in this league, but they simply do not understand the technology. The conflict is that I have been setting their lineup just so they actually have a complete lineup

and did not make any trades or anything drastic. I went through the draft asking them who they would like and legitimately drafted every relevant chiefs player, aside from Rishi Rice, and even drafted Tom Brady at one point. I've simply been changing their lineup the whole season, doing waivers of absolutely the necessary, and I feel that we should keep this consistent through the playoffs.

My dad, the manager who will match up with my grandparents' team in the semifinals now, is threatening to drop his entire team if I set my grandparents' light up. I feel that I have made the correct move here and have done nothing wrong. Let me know what you think. What is it with dads

and threatening to drop their whole team if they're unhappy because of results in their fantasy leagues? My dad did the exact same thing. The one time he played fantasy football. Do you want me to read the text messages? Only if you do it in certain voices, please. Hey, pal.

do me a favor this week do not change nana and papa's lineup on your own if they specifically call or text you with questions of course help them out whoa whoa whoa i've been changing it weekly it's only fair to continue doing so and then gets the mom involved here uh mom what are your thoughts on this matter and then back to commissioner setting their line of this wait but hold on hold on is it his parents or her parents like who's the grandkids grandparents here. I don't know. That could be why the dad is, the dad is, the dad is, you're right. If it's his parents, he might be a little bit different. If it's our parents like, oh, screw my in-laws. That's a great call. Setting their line up is 100% the correct move.

As commissioner, that is what will be done. And then he did the salute emoji. It's like you are playing two teams. Okay, I'm kicking all my players off and quitting. Okay. Then mom says, I don't care. and I don't think it's worth an argument. We will not be doing fantasy next year.

Too competitive. That doesn't sound like the mom at all. How old is the commissioner? I don't know. Oh, man. And what else is there? More Nana and Papa. And then commissioner says, too competitive.

That's everything we do. And then dad says, I agree. We could play war and it would be competitive. But it's not fair to manage two teams all bleeping year, especially in the playoffs. And then he says the first names of the grandparents. So I think it must be the in-laws. Yeah, I'll just make up names.

Maria and Peter can figure it out or not. It's BS. I love this dad. He's great. I think if, so the commissioner is grandchild, obviously, right? Yes. Sounds like it. So what he should do is he should casually reach out to his grandparents

and say something along the lines like, hey, don't forget to set your fantasy lineup this week. So then they could, in return, ask. So they did what the father said, which is if they ask. This is so funny. And then you set their lineup. And then if I was the grandchild, I would also casually mention, like, you know, in the event that something terrible happens to you, maybe anything you want to leave, just bypass dad and give it right to me. I do not think that.

I think these are his, I think this is the mom's parents. That's what it sounds like. Because he called them by their first names. That is a really funny one. So thank you. All right. There's one other option. Okay.

And this is for like mass chaos is lock your dad out of his fantasy roster. So he can't drop anybody. Oh, right before the holidays. Great idea. Lock him out. Say, dad, you threaten to do something that cannot happen in this league. I can't trust you with your fantasy team. Clearly this is the last year they're going to do a family league.

Mom said so already. Yeah. So you just lock him out and then he can't change his lineup. The kid can change it for his dad if his dad wants him to, but then he can go on and help Maria and Peter with their lineup. Dad finished off by saying, I'm going to be done this week if you set that lineup. You're the commission.

Do as you like. It's your prerogative. I'm just telling you what I will do. Yeah. My solution will cause chaos and make dad really angry. We got one more here. An ethics question from KJ. The guy behind me in the standings is playing a team with a better waiver-wire priority.

Is it okay for me to drop a running back that is fourth on my depth chart, but would start against the guy chasing me? I know it sounds like collusion, but in real sports, players get waived all the time, and the team of the higher priority will get them before the competition. It doesn't sound like collusion. That is collusion. You're playing Santee Clause with another member of your fantasy league.

I don't know if that is collusion. though, because he's not... He's helping another person in his league. Of course it's... But he's not letting them know that he's helping them. He's doing that to help himself. Well, then he's literally just admitted it on a podcast. But that's not collusion, though.

It's collusion. Jamie, he's helping another team beat somebody else in the league. But they're not aware of that. Nothing in return. He's not getting anything in return, as far as we know. He might not have told us in the email that he might be getting 50 bucks or... Well, that would be different. That's collusion.

The whole thing is collusion. Oh, man. I'm on the fence. Why would you give somebody your fourth running back? See, look at this chat. Look at the chat. Soda Pop says, this is good strategy. And then Cam says, this is collusion. I think, I don't know if this is. I just don't think it's collusion. I mean, I don't know if it's ethical, but I don't think it's collusion. The other thing that I said, with you're working with somebody else to cause chaos in your league. What the hell is this?

What is this? He's not working with it. This guy just causing chaos in his league. well he's he's putting up it's an interesting strategy he's putting a player on waivers so that so that someone so that he could influence another matchup for his own benefit I think it's a little shady but I think I'm okay with it especially because like if you drop a player right let's say waivers run Tuesday night isn't that going to change the the waiver priority once those waivers run you know and then you're going to drop someone it's not like he's going to be available on Tuesday night I also don't understand the the standing's part of this because this is the

playoffs. Yeah, I got this yesterday. I don't know if I'm doing it. No, there's four teams left. The team that's at the top of the waivers for the remaining teams is the one that would be able to pick somebody up. Maybe it's a best ball. No, it's not a best ball thing. I get what he's trying to do.

I think it's not it goes beyond unethical. You're literally helping somebody else. All right. Okay. But I don't think you call it collusion, though, because they're not colluding. It's not right. I'm okay with it I think I am too

You'd be okay with it Until it happens to you And then you would be pissed Yeah you're right Yeah but but again Unless it's hey Hey Dave I'm dropping this running back

You go pick him up Like you don't have to pick up The player that he's dropping But if you're telling me You're dropping him And I know it's gonna make If I'm telling you I'm dropping him better

Then we're colluding If I am just dropping The player on my roster Into And then you're hoping That the guy notices And picks him up Jamie, let's say

Now it's a secret Santa. The three of us in Heath were in the semi-finals of a league and you're playing Heath and I'm playing Dave and I want to play Heath in the finals, not you. So I drop

Michael Carter or whatever and knowing that Heath is going to be able to pick him up. Let's say he has more fab than you or something like that and he uses him against you. How are you going to be pissed about it? I'm going to be pissed if you said,

hey Heath, I'm dropping Michael Carter so you could pick him up to use him But if you just dropped them because you wanted to hopefully get this scenario to play out, then there's nothing I can do. Yeah. I kind of with you. You would be, you would be. I don't think you'd be feeling.

No, you can be pissed. Yeah, that's the thing. That's right. You can be pissed. It doesn't mean that it's illegal or anything. Right. It's not, it's not as if there's, there's not anything that is working together to screw somebody over. This is just, hey, I'm hoping that this is going to happen.

Yeah. It's the same thing, like, you know, in the essence of, like, you're blocking your opponent from picking up somebody else. Like, you're doing that on your own to, like, I give example. It's not even close to the same thing. I'm in, well, I don't need Jacoby Brissette. I'm blocking two managers for picking up Jacoby Brissette. The one player that's, so I'm blocking my opponent,

and what I think is going to be my week 17 opponent for picking up Jacoby Recet, if the manager that's playing the other semifinal team said to me, hey, go pick up Jacoby Brissette because you're going to get it first, that would be colluding. I'm doing it, I'm helping one manager because now they got to start Sam Darnold, but I didn't tell the other manager I'm doing that. I did that for my purposes. Yeah, you know what? The more I think about this, right?

So I told you that I dropped Jackson Dart thinking that my opponent might pick him up and I would be okay with that. what if it had been I dropped Jackson Dart in the semifinals thinking that in the other semifinals matchup it might help the weaker team win I would be actually I think I'm totally fine with this I have become as long as you are not letting the other manager know I am totally fine with it

which we have absolutely no idea other than it's not been announced to the public on our show okay but I agree with you if he doesn't mean necessarily that the other owner is going to know about it he might not listen to us But how do you prove it one way or the other that the other... Well, the same way you prove collusion or that you can't prove. Well, Dave, okay, I think we can all agree on this.

If the other manager does not listen to the show, then screw him and we're rooting against them anyway. All right. Let's finish up with... Probably listens to the power trip. A few minutes of your emails here from Chase at Fantasy Football at CBSI.com. Chase wants us to start two. in full PPR, Jalen Warren, Darren Waller, RICO Dowdell, Keenan Allen. Waller and Rico.

From Jim. Only two, yes. Pick three, Pooka Nakua. Okay, yes. Pick two others. Jalen Waddle, Cortland Sutton, Stefan Diggs, Mike Evans, Michael Wilson. Sutton, Wilson. Wilson and Evans.

And if Marvin Harrison plays, do you go Sutton and Evans? Yes. Yes. All right, from Billy. Billy. Two running backs at a flex. Is that cable guy? That's, oh, Billy.

Oh, Billy. I haven't seen that movie forever. Two running backs at a flex and half PPR. Kairn Williams, Bucky Irving, Michael Carter, Emmanuel Wilson, Jawar Jordan,

and Terry McLaren. McLaren in the first two running backs. Yeah, could change. Say it again. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah, sure. Two running backs. And a flex.

Kyrin Williams, Bucky Irving, Michael Carter, Emmanuel Wilson, Jawar, Jordan, Terry McLoren. I agree, yeah. First running back is McCorn.

What if Jacobs were out? Would you bump Williams, Wilson over Kyron, Irving, or McLaurin? You're not going to know that by Thursday night for Kyron, and I would probably

still play Bucky over Emmanuel Wilson. All right, and then there's Jawar Jordan. You know, I'm not going to go down that. From, who's this from? Tommy from Tulsa, 12-team PPR, half a point per rush attempt.

Tony Pollard, Michael Carter, Emmanuel Wilson, if Jacobs were out. Wilson, if Jacobs were out, I might go Pollard over Carter because of the rush attempts, because I don't know what the guaranteed rush attempts would be for Carter. Like, Pollard, you could figure he's going to get 14 or 15 rush attempts. Like Carter may get 10 to 12. Okay. And pick three receivers. I think this is easy.

Evans, JMO, Teterola McMillan, Cortland Sutton. Not Ted. So then in a half-P-R league that's a full-P-R league that's half a point per carry, would you start Michael Carter or Tetero-McMillan?

Or Tony Pollard. Carter. All right. All right, from Christoff. Four-year listener from Belgium. Nice. We love your waffles. Yeah.

struggling it you know we're going to doing white elephant this year for Christmas which is very fun and I wanted to get a waffle maker as my white elephant gift and my wife was like nobody wants a waffle maker like who doesn't want a waffle maker anyway people who already have a waffle maker well that's true I need two of four Jefferson A.J. Brown cocker and digs the first two sorry tell me names again Jefferson A.J. Brown Coker Diggs AJ Brown's the easy one Probably Jefferson still It's close between Jefferson and Coker

That's just where we are Wow Waller or Parkinson Caller for me if Tua starts Colby as of now Okay Neil says Lord of the Rings was published in 1954

And The Hobbit in 1937 Yeah I learned a lot yesterday Sorry about that Logan wants to know Burrow or Hurst They ruin stranger things like what'd you say how dare they ruin stranger things like that right burrow or hurts the movies weren't out yet um hurts hurts the movies have ppr i need two flexus abuka david montgomery jaden

reed two of the three yeah i'm sitting reed boca yes sirry anthony from st louis start three rishie rice Devante Smith Kenneth Gainwell D.K. Metcalf Aaron Jones Joanne Jennings. Start three? Yeah, Rice and Jennings, I think, are easy.

Give me the other names? Devante Smith, Kenneth Gainwell, D.K. Metcalfe. It's down to the Steelers. I think it's Gainwell. And finally, from Nicholas, pick four in PPR, Justin Jefferson, T. Higgins,

Mike Evans, Omarion, Hampton, Aaron Jones. Hampton Jefferson, Higgins, Evans, Hampton, Aaron Jones. Hampton is the sit unless Higgins is out. And by the way, if Higgins plays, that makes Burrow that much better.

Yeah. Like if I knew that Higgins was going to play, if we see Wednesday or Thursday, Higgins is practicing, it's looking like he's trending towards playing, I would start Burrow over Stafford. Just in case this is our boss. In the chat here.

Kairn Dowdell, Travion, Henderson, Giovante Williams, picked two. Better not get it wrong. I go to Williams and Williams. I've got Williams and Dowdle as of now. Which Williams, Dave? It might change it to Williams and Williams. Which Williams do you have ahead?

I have Giovante head of Kairn. Okay. Tyler, whether or not you are our boss, good luck to you. We'll be back tomorrow with Start or Sit for the... I got a dad joke for you. I just saw. Oh, go ahead. What happens when Elsa goes?

I was at the bank. Her account gets frozen. There you go. That was so easy. Come on. All right. See you later. Everybody.

Talk to you tomorrow. You guys can do that quickly.