Fantasy Football Today - Week 17 Tough Calls, Cowboys-Titans, Dynasty Rankings (12/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 28, 2022

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Carson Wentz will be the starti...ng quarterback for the Commanders this week! We discuss that and more news and notes to start the show, then Dave tells you who the Good Luck Player of Week 17 is (7:30) before getting right into the Cowboys-Titans game (10:00). Can we trust Ezekiel Elliott in a brutal matchup? Will Derrick Henry play? Should you start Tyler Higbee over Dalton Schultz? ... Week 17 tough calls include Justin Fields (26:00), running backs (27:05) like Jerick McKinnon and Josh Jacobs and wide receivers (38:40) like Amari Cooper and Garrett Wilson ... "I would rather have ____ than ____ in Dynasty (46:50)." Check out the hot takes our listeners are providing! Trevor Lawrence over Justin Herbert? Rhamondre Stevenson over Joe Mixon? ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Wednesday shows are the most fun, right? We're going to have some fun on this hump day here. Get you ready for week 17. We got some tough calls. We got a very fun segment, Dynasty fill in the blank. I would rather have blank than blank in Dynasty. Wait till you see what the audience said on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:01:59 But tough calls this week. Can we trust Justin Fields with his injuries at Detroit? Tyler Algier, Jarek McKinnon. How about Josh Jacobs against the 49ers? Can you really get away from a top five running back, but against that defense? Ramondre Stevenson against the Dolphins. Can the Jaguars wide receivers bounce back?
Starting point is 00:02:19 And does anyone care that Garrett Wilson has a very tough matchup on paper? I'm guessing not really, but we'll discuss it all today. Good morning, Dave. Good morning, Heath. Let's go to Heath first. Good morning, Heath. Good morning, Adam. Welcome back, Carson Wentz.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Welcome back. Elite quarterback. He once was. He once was. He was great. Dave, tell us a little something about Carson Wentz. He's been named the starter for the Washington Commanders for this week against the Browns.
Starting point is 00:02:49 He has been named the starter, and it should be good news for the running backs there. This season, he's thrown over 25% of his targets to running backs. I believe it's the second highest rate of anybody in the NFL. Indeed it is. Most of his games were with J.D. McKissick, right? I mean, J.D. McKissick was active for those games. I wouldn't say that he was like the featured running back
Starting point is 00:03:13 for Washington in those games. I would just assume that they have more running back targets in games that J.D. McKissick plays than they do in J.D. McKissick. Would you like to know what his running back target rate is before this season? This has been a pretty consistent trend for him. Tight ends there, too. He likes to
Starting point is 00:03:33 not throw it to receivers as much as others. I have some Carson Wentz trivia. Oh, okay. Carson Wentz is currently tied for QB 19, 20, and 21 with two other quarterbacks. There are three quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:03:51 battling over the next two weeks to finish as top 20 options. All three of them averaging 17.8 fantasy points per game. I don't know why you're going to your computer, Adam. You're not allowed to use your keyboard. I'm looking at the team.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I'm looking up the teams. You're not allowed to look this up. I'm looking at the teams. I'm looking at the teams. I let you do that. Yes, I'm looking at the standings, quarterback. I let you do that. I'm just looking at the teams.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Is Taylor Heineke one of them? Taylor Heineke is not one of them. Taylor Heineke is averaging 15.6, not near as good as those guys. Are both quarterbacks guys that were drafted back in office? I know who one is. Both quarterbacks started. You know one of them, Adam, because this goes back to an argument. One of them is Derek Carr.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah. Perfect fit. The other one, Justin Herbert? No. Justin Herbert, no, has been slightly better. Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers has not been that good. Really?
Starting point is 00:04:57 Tom Brady. Tom Brady is the answer. Tom Brady, Derek Carr, Carson Wentz. All viewed as elite quarterbacks by somebody or another at one point during their career. I feel like the last 45 seconds of you speaking has just been one big shot at me. Like, all of it.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So that's not cool. You said Wednesdays are the most fun show. That's not fun. That's the most fun thing. That's not fun at all. More news and notes for you here. Derek Henry practiced, and Tony Pollard did not practice. They got the Thursday game.
Starting point is 00:05:29 We're going to preview that one right out of the gate, but right now Derrick Henry says, whatever they want to do, I'll do. If they want to sit him, they'll sit him, and that's fine because this game is meaningless for the Titans, and mostly meaningless. And Tony Pollard has a thigh injury. I think we're expecting him to play, right?
Starting point is 00:05:47 We are. If he doesn't practice on Wednesday, though, I think we should be a little worried. Antonio Gibson has a sprain. And so that's, you know, you heard what Dave said about throwing to the running backs. He has a sprain. Where is the sprain, Adam?
Starting point is 00:06:01 Don't know. Don't know. Could be in a pinky, could be in his knee. Right. So, yeah, Brian Robinson, I'm sure you guys are going to like a lot this week, I think. Dave, Cliff Kingsbury. I mean, wouldn't the body part be listed in the injury report? Well, they haven't had an injury report yet, so we'll wait.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Oh, that's right. Dave, Cliff Kingsbury was very complimentary of Greg Dortch. Talk about what Cliff Kingsbury said about Greg Dortch. Basically said the day after the game that they meant to give him a meaningful role in the offense. They had him focus on it. They took him off of his special teams work. And Kingsbury liked what he saw, and he wants to build off that. So I know that we have some trepidation about Greg Dortch this week because the last time we saw him have a big game
Starting point is 00:06:48 he came back the last week and did nothing. But it sounds like he's going to continue to be a part of this offense. I will like him more if it's McSorley under center because McSorley has a hard time connecting with the outside receivers. Not as much with the slot receiver. And that was Dorch on 70% of his snaps. I'd also like to add that I never in my life ever said that Derek Carr was an elite quarterback. I don't
Starting point is 00:07:12 know where that came from. No, but other people have. Oh, okay. Okay. No, that was not a shot at you. Okay. Many people have said Tom Brady Tom Brady was an elite quarterback at one point. I would agree with that. I don't believe it. Tom Brady. Yeah, I would agree with that. I don't believe it. Tom Brady? Yeah, I'll bet on that.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Will Disley's on IR. Derwin James is not going to be suspended for his hit on Ashton Doolin, but he is in the concussion protocol, so James may not play this week against the Rams. Arizona defensive lineman J.J. Watt is going to retire after this season. And Hayden Hurst could play this week.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Is he on your radar, guys, as a tight end option? Hayden Hurst could play this week. Is he on your radar, guys, as a tight end option? Hayden Hurst against the Bills? Not really. No. Okay. You'd have to be pretty desperate at tight end to go double H. Alright, so you listen, you watch the podcast, you got your best bets, now it's time to follow the action, and the best way to do that
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Starting point is 00:08:19 What was I watching? I guess it was the football games on Christmas. Yeah, on Christmas Eve, I was at my brother-in-law's. We were watching the Eagles game on TV with a couple of Eagles fans. I had my phone out. I watched the Washington-San Francisco game on CBS. And then I did the same thing the next day
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Starting point is 00:08:49 can do if you want to win this week, if you want to win that championship. You might need a little luck, though. Every year, Dave gives you a good luck charm to put on your bench. Don't drop your starting quarterback. Drop your worst player. Do it on Saturday or Sunday morning. Get this good luck charm on your bench.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Dave, Christmas vacation drumroll. The player is excited that you can actually do that drumroll noise. I don't think I can do that. A lot of players went on IR this year from Kyle Pitts
Starting point is 00:09:22 to Rashad Penny to Trey Lance. Guys that we were counting on big years for. Javante Williams, how could we forget about him? A couple of rookies went on IR, some particularly early, including Brees Hall. But one rookie didn't even get the chance to participate in training camp. John Meche of the Houston Texans, diagnosed with leukemia in late July,
Starting point is 00:09:42 obviously had to go and focus on that. Did not play any football this year. I am going to post a tweet with a video from the Texans of him kind of rewarding the people who helped him in the hospital in Houston, gave them a tour of NRG Stadium, and just really seems like a great guy who just got dealt a bad hand for this year. Hopefully he's back next year, but the guy's awesome. Good slot receiver deserves to be a fantasy champion. And so I am asking
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Starting point is 00:10:35 John Mechie for the win. Is it good or bad karma if someone is facing you in the fantasy playoffs, hears this and picks up John Mechie to have on their bench against you? No, it's going to be good karma to have John Mechie on your bench for whatever reason you want. Are you guys facing each other? This all started years ago when I
Starting point is 00:10:55 picked up Tim Tebow, and I was in a bunch of finals that year, and I won them all. And so I was like, yes, of course, it's Tim Tebow. What else could I own good teams or my own good luck like, yes, of course, it's Tim Tebow. What else? I own good teams or my own good luck in the final week of the fantasy season. And last year was, I think it was Marquis Goodwin
Starting point is 00:11:12 last year. Worked out. Let's do it again with John Meche. All right, John Meche. It was Goodwin two years ago. It was Demarius Thomas last year. John Meche this year. All right, I'm done. Okay, now, Dave, we got Thursday Night Football. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Nah! An injury on the Thursday Night theme song. I just banged my knee into this filing cabinet. Oh, I'm sorry. What's in here? Some cartilage. Dallas is at Tennessee. So, all right.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Heath, what's your take on who's playing in this game? I don't really know. I would guess that everybody who didn't practice yesterday, it was like seven Titans, including some of their best offensive linemen and defensive players. They had like three linebackers that didn't practice. Henry got a limited practice in yesterday. I still am thinking he won't play.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I can't imagine if you're saying we're going to rest anyone who's not right because you know this game only matters if you tie next week, that Derrick Henry would be the guy that you would run out there without an offensive line when you're not really going to compete in the game anyway if you're not playing six or seven guys. So I'm not expecting Derrick Henry.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Okay, if he does play. The other thing is, I've heard some people say I'm going to rank him as a low-end number two because I think he'll play a little bit, and then they'll pull him. What sense does that make? Yeah. Why put him out there if you're putting half a squad out there
Starting point is 00:12:55 and you're only going to play him for part of the game? Yeah, I don't know if you remember way back in week six, whenever they played the Chiefs, I don't remember. I gave this stat about Henry and blowout losses. They didn't get blown out against the Chiefs. They had a great game. They went to overtime. I thought they were going to get blown out because Malik Willis was playing in Arrowhead
Starting point is 00:13:14 or whatever. I'll give you the stat now, though, because it's played out a couple times this season against the Bills, against the Eagles. Henry's played 11 games over the last four seasons in which the Titans have lost by 10 or more points. He has scored 12 or more PPR fantasy points
Starting point is 00:13:29 only four times in those 11 games. So it's terrible when they get blown out. I've had a lot of trouble predicting blowouts lately. Every time the Texans play, I think they're going to get blown out. They never do. The Dallas against Hughes, you never know what the game is going to be, but
Starting point is 00:13:45 Dallas is a 10-point favorite. If you're looking for a reason to sit Derek Henry, if you're nervous about it, then there's one. He's the only Titan we'd consider anyway. Now, how about if he sits Hassan Haskins or whoever would be what?
Starting point is 00:14:01 Zach Moss. Tyler Algier. I'd prefer Algier to both of them. Of course. What do you mean would be Zach Moss or Tyler? I mean, Algier would be way ahead of Haskins, no? Of course, yes.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I think I have Algier at 21 and Haskins at 28. Let's talk about the Cowboys then. Dave, your general approach about the Cowboys then, uh, Dave, your general approach to the Cowboys. Well,
Starting point is 00:14:35 they haven't made any announcements about sitting any players and it could be a blowout type of a situation, but if it's going to be a blowout situation, I still think the Cowboys offensive stars will contribute to that. So, um, I'm all systems go on everybody that we've already been starting in the Dallas offense. Dak, Zeke, Pollard.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It looks like Pollard's going to play. We'll see. Obviously, if he doesn't, Zeke is going to ratchet up to being like a top eight type of fantasy running back. You'll love him. CeeDee Lamb's going to be a must start. I don't think Dalton Schultz is a must because he seems to be much more of a target-dependent
Starting point is 00:15:08 type of tight end, and he hasn't been getting a lot lately. When he's been running his routes, they've either been really short and Dak is looking further, or he's been running long and it takes him forever to get there, and Dak is already throwing to somebody else. It's kind of the same thing that's been happening to Adam Thielen this year. So I'm not
Starting point is 00:15:23 locked into Dalton Schultz, but if you've made it this far and you don't want to pick up another tight end and ease So I'm not locked into Dalton Schultz, but if you've made it this far and you don't want to pick up another tight end and ease your tight end, then start Dalton Schultz. I was in the Cowboys DST as a must this week. They're highly rostered already. You don't have to sweat them.
Starting point is 00:15:36 They're even better if Derrick Henry doesn't play. Here's the thing I struggle with with the Cowboys. Like the Titans resting people, and maybe they rest enough defensive players where this is the case, but they're so, so bad against the pass and so, so good against the run. And this game profiles as one
Starting point is 00:15:58 where the Cowboys would just run it 100 times. Yeah. But who can you name, or can you want to guess how many running backs have more than 58 rushing yards against the titans this year well i know only one has more than 66 rushing yards or 68 rushing yards and that was barkley in week one uh 58 you said i'm gonna guess Barkley, maybe Samaje Pirine. Josh Jacobs had 66 yards in week three. That's the last time. That's the last time somebody went over 58, and you're correct.
Starting point is 00:16:35 He's the only other person. He's the second highest total against them. No, they're insanely good against the run. I spent so much time breaking down this matchup, thinking about Zeke and Pollard and what it's going to be. And if they go and sit guys, then it's all going to be useless research. I'm going to be really bad about it.
Starting point is 00:16:54 But what I see happening, I think you guys would probably sign up for the, would probably agree with this, right? It's like, I don't think Zeke's going to be efficient, but he'll probably get his 15 carries like he does every week. Maybe more of Pollard doesn't play. He's going to score. They're going to score so many
Starting point is 00:17:07 points against the Titans, and he's got a very good chance to score. He's done it in eight or nine straight games. They'll get down to the one-yard line, and he'll hammer it in. But I can't see him rushing for a lot of yards in this game unless the Titans really sit a lot of players. So I thought
Starting point is 00:17:23 the only tough call in this game was Zeke and Pollard and what to do, especially if they both play. Well, Dalton Schultz. Oh, yeah. Titans are terrible against Titans. I would just sit Dalton Schultz. Right, you're not going to start like Michael Gallup, right?
Starting point is 00:17:38 No. Although he has been their most targeted red zone receiver lately. I would certainly rather flex Michael Gallup than Dalton Schultz. Schultz, the only thing I'll say for Schultz, well, first of all, he could always catch a touchdown because the Cowboys score 35 points a game. That's true. But his target share has gone down recently as tony pollard's has gone up so if
Starting point is 00:18:09 pollard does not play that might be something that helps dalton schultz might be could be dac had his highest grossing yardage game of the year last week and dalton schultz had an 11 percent target share yeah that was he he has he's he has a target... when they're in the red zone, 23%, but the lowest catch rate, 43%. He makes me nervous, but you do not have to replace him if you don't want to. Should be able to get you at least seven PPR. I'd replace him in non-PPR.
Starting point is 00:18:37 That's where I'd go in a different direction. Catches count. Seven PPR points from your tight end isn't the worst thing. He has one game with more than three catches in the last month. Yeah, I feel like he's more of a non-PPR guy because you're more hopeful for a touchdown than anything with Dalton Schultz.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And so how many times has he scored in those last four or whatever you said? Zero. Okay, so I'm nervous about him. You'll see that I'm going to write him as a sit ultimately on this week's column. Yeah, I think it's... And he could score, and the Titans have had a lot of
Starting point is 00:19:07 troubles with tight ends, but it's not like he was an elite prospect or player at any point. He had a great year last year, and he had a great month this year. Yeah. Look, he's just not getting targeted
Starting point is 00:19:23 as much. The thing that surprised me about last week with Dalton Schultz was Dak Prescott's not throwing much. He throws usually 30 times a game since he came back from the injury, and he does pretty well with it. So that should give you hope that he's not going to have to throw much against the Titans, but he still should do fine because the Titans are, well, actually, teams throw a lot against the Titans because they don't run it. But Dak's just, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:43 They're just highly efficient. But whenever Dak had thrown the ball a lot, Schultz had gotten a lot against the Titans because they don't run it, but Dak just said, you know, whatever. They're just highly efficient. But whenever Dak had thrown the ball a lot, Schultz had gotten a lot of targets. That's why I thought he was going to be good against the Eagles. And lo and behold, Dak throws a bunch less, so 35 times, which is a lot for him. And Schultz has four targets. The Eagles are great against tight ends,
Starting point is 00:19:59 so keep that in mind. But, okay, obviously, like, it's discouraging with Schultz. I don't want to make too much of a case. They did a good job covering him on shorter routes. Yeah, all right. So, again, you can think about the power thing if power doesn't play now just tell me the tight ends that you might start over dalton schultz like tyler higby dawson knox would you start those guys over him yeah sure no offense to take some hill oh wow um what about that's a little hard well because on KCPR. Because they might get their doors blown off of them. The Cowboys might throw 25 passes.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Against the Titans? I don't know. Can they run against the Titans? I don't think they can. I think they're going to be able to, especially if there's no Jeffrey Simmons. Well, yes. That feels like the direction they're going in.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I think there's a better chance that Simmons sits than Henry sits. I want to talk to you guys about their week. I guess it was week 16 game against the Saints in 2019. Have you mentioned this yet, Adam? 2019 season, they had a meaningless game because the Texans had won. This is back when the Texans were kind of good. And so Texas had a Saturday game. They won that game. They won the South. All that was left for the Titans was to clinch a wildcard spot. They had to do that by
Starting point is 00:21:11 winning in Houston in week 17. And so they rested Derrick Henry, who had a hamstring injury at the time. And they were competitive against the Saints. It was a Saints-Titans game. Saints ended up winning 38-28. Drew Brees had a monster game. Tannehill had a monster game. But they rested players who weren't at 100% knowing that the game was relatively meaningless. And lo and behold, the next week they came out
Starting point is 00:21:33 and they blew the doors off of the Texans who were resting players in their game. And Derek Henry had the monster game. That's why... That game is evidence that the Titans will do what's best long-term for them, and that's to rest up for their game against Jacksonville. And I think that that includes a lot of key players on their defensive line.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And if we see them out, then you've got to expect the Cowboys to run the ball effectively. And I do think, like I say in speculation, and I know we're talking about the Thursday game now, but of Jacksonville doing the same thing, I've not heard anything from Jacksonville suggest that. If I missed it, tell me. But they are not in the same situation. If Miami loses out, which is very possible without Tua, we don't have Tua to play,
Starting point is 00:22:15 then Jacksonville has a path to the wild card that's not that hard to believe at all. Why doesn't Tennessee have that? My guess is that they're going to play their guys until they are comfortably ahead or comfortably behind. Why is Tennessee different? They have the same record as the Jaguars. They lose all the tiebreakers.
Starting point is 00:22:32 If they lose to Jags, they're not going to win the wild card, period. Okay. Okay, so let's finish up here. Dak Prescott or Justin Herbert? Dak. I'm sticking with Herbert. Dak or Kirk Cousins?
Starting point is 00:22:53 Cousins. I got a little scary stat for you on Kirk Cousins. Go look at what he's done outdoors in December and January. It's some good stuff, but some very, very bad stuff. It doesn't seem like the weather is going to be too bad this weekend, though, even in Green Bay. How about Dak Prescott
Starting point is 00:23:11 or Minshew Purdy and Mike White? No way, right? Start Dak over them? Dak over all of them. Okay. I've got Dak over all of them. Trevor Lawrence against the Texans
Starting point is 00:23:24 or Dak Prescott? Lawrence. I currently have Lawrence outside of my top 12. Do you think they're going to sit him? I will revisit that one. No, I don't think they're... I think there's a chance he doesn't play the full game. I just mentioned that it's possible that they do that.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Okay. But look at how teams have done against the texans they run the ball well against them they don't get a lot of fantasy production he's going to move up he'll be a top 12 quarterback he'll probably be 10 11 somewhere in there but i'd start dac all right and then finally we have to talk about pollard and zeke here both if pollard plays and if if he does not play here so if pollard't play, then Zeke's going to be an easy call to start, right? I mean, everybody's going to start these guys anyway. It's hard to imagine a situation
Starting point is 00:24:10 where you're sitting one or both. Should it be, though? I mean, this is... So I thought last week would be a good litmus test going into this week because I thought the Eagles would have Jordan Davis and finally we'd see them against a tough run defense. But Jordan Davis played like 12 snaps and left with an injury.
Starting point is 00:24:30 So they've just had a very favorable running back schedule since Zeke returned six games ago, I think it was. This is a much bigger challenge. I mean, this Titans run defense is incredibly good. Obviously, everything changes if the Titans start sitting players, if Pollard's out. But let's say it's a normal week. Let's say, Heath, it were a normal week.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Pollard and Zeke both play against this vaunted Tennessee defense. By the way, they give up a lot of targets to running backs, so that would help Pollard for sure. How would you approach these guys? Pollard would be a must-start running back. Zeke would be a borderline number two. Oh. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:06 So, okay. I don't really know what to say. Like behind Tyler Algier, but ahead of Zach Moss. Let's revisit this game tomorrow. We'll get a practice report from the Titans and hopefully a little bit more information. Start the Cowboys DST one way or another. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:21 That'll do it for Thursday Night Football. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got to make sure I don't move. Okay. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I want to give an update on the St. Jude Best Ball Invitational. We have one week left in the contest. JSL, whoever you are, you're in first place.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Hope you can keep it. Caleb Skaggs is in second place. Josh Scherr is in third place. And all of this, we did a lot to benefit St. Jude. Thank you for your donations, everybody. Hope it's been a lot of fun for you. Maybe it was your first time playing best ball. Hope you enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And thank you for being a part of that. And thank you so much to Casey Simons for being the commissioner, the organizer, and also in the finals in the For the People Podcast League. So, good job to Casey Simons for everything that you've done to help us out. We're going to take a break. Week 17, tough calls when we come back on Fantasy Football today.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Is Justin Fields a tough call? Under normal circumstances at Detroit, no way would he be a tough call. Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold just scored 22 or more fantasy points against the Detroit Lions. But Dave Richard, you got a banged up Justin Fields who rushed for 11 yards last week. Is he a tough call? Start or sit?
Starting point is 00:26:37 I am absolutely starting Justin Fields. Indoors, no worries about the elements. Matchup is favorable whether he throws it or runs it. I will take the over on 11 rushing yards. I think the conditions, plus the defense that he played, were pretty heavy factors in why he had such a rough game.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Okay, we can be quick on this one. QB5 for you, Heath. Dave? Yeah, he's better than that for me. QB4. You guys going Joe Burrow against the Bills or Fields at the Lions? Burrow. I'm going with Burrow.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And Josh Allen. And Patrick Mahomes. But that's it. That's it. That's it. Alright. Tough call. Let's see. How about Tyler Algier? It's hard maybe for a fantasy manager to buy into a guy that hasn't been a reliable starter this year, obviously.
Starting point is 00:27:32 But he's emerging a bit. 17 and 18 carries in his last two games. I think if he gets that against the Cardinals, we're going to be pretty thrilled about it. The Cardinals have allowed 17 or more fantasy points in PPR to a running back in nine of their last 10 games. Dave, is Tyler Algier a tough call? I've got him outside of my top 24 as of now
Starting point is 00:27:50 because there is still a Cordero Patterson problem. But he's played, Algier has played at least 48% of the snaps in five of his past six, at least 11 touches, in four of the past six, at least 100 yards total in each of his past two. A little bit worried about his role near the goal line. I think that still goes to Patterson, especially after Algier whiffed on multiple tries last week.
Starting point is 00:28:12 But I think otherwise, Algier is in a good position to get you north of 10 PPR points, maybe closer to 15. I think both running backs can have a pretty good game. I suspect both of them will be ranked in my top 28 among running backs. I think Algear might be a little bit of a tough call in full PPR because he did have five targets last week, but the previous month he had two targets, and so you don't know what he's going to do in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:28:38 But I would not be surprised at all if he runs for 150 yards in this game. The Cardinals' defense is an absolute dumpster fire I don't think you see this trend towards the end of the year towards Algier with 35 carries over his last two weeks and then in week 17 they decided to go back to the 30 million year old Cordero Patterson as the primary rusher so I I think... 30 million years old. I think you can count on 15 to 20 carries. You can probably count on a catch or two. And I like his chances to get into the end zone. He's a must start in non-PPR.
Starting point is 00:29:17 He's a low end number two in full PPR. Okay. Yeah, boy, you just never know. Sometimes these teams, they really confuse you with the way they use running backs week to week, like the Ravens, for example. But Algiers coming on, and also he had three carries.
Starting point is 00:29:31 They were on the same possession. They were basically back to back to back inside the five-yard line. And he didn't get in. He had a good chance on his second carry, but it seemed like he had the whole... He just fell. He fell.
Starting point is 00:29:43 But they did use him inside the five-yard line on three straight carries. So that was good to see. And that was last week against the Ravens. You know, he did pretty well against a really good run defense. Somebody asked me, Algier versus Akers,
Starting point is 00:29:57 and I was tossing and turning. I like Algier. Who are you guys going to... What's that? What did you say? Algier. Akers. Were you saying something, Heath?
Starting point is 00:30:09 I was trying to, but it's okay. We've moved on. Okay. Josh Jacobs against the 49ers. There have only been two running backs who have scored more than 13.4 PPR fantasy points against the Niners. One of them is currently on the 49ers.
Starting point is 00:30:23 He is Christian McCaffrey. Melvin Gordon is the other one. In his last four games. Of course. Yeah. Josh Jacobs has eight targets and seven catches in his last four games. In the four games before that, he had 22 targets and 18 catches. Just target chairs way down.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Start or sit Josh Jacobs in the Fantasy Championship Heath? I'm not sitting the number three running back and leading rusher in the NFL, even if he's playing the 49ers. You can see here, I guess, Dave and Jamie have downgraded him a little bit more and he's outside of their top 12. I cannot imagine even considering sitting Josh Jacobs. If you're loaded at running back, you can sitting Josh Jacobs. If you're loaded at running back,
Starting point is 00:31:06 you can sit Josh Jacobs. Why don't we take a look at must-start running backs against the 49ers and what they've done. Some of them are more must-starty than others. David Montgomery, 17 carries, 8 fantasy points
Starting point is 00:31:22 in PPR. Javante Williams, 15 carries, 9 fantasy points in PPR. Javante Williams, 15 carries, 9 fantasy points. Christian McCaffrey, 14 carries, 7 catches, 23.4 fantasy points. Austin Eckler, 6 carries, 7 catches, 13 points. I'll just say the fantasy points. 13.3 points for Eckler. James Conner, 13.4. Alvin Kamara, 11.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Leonard Fournette, 10.6. Rashad White, 12.7. Ken Walker, 11.4. Alvin Kamara, 11. Leonard Fournette, 10.6. Rashad White, 12.7. Ken Walker, 11.9. So none of these guys are Josh Jacobs, but obviously this is an amazing run defense. Best in football. I don't know, Heath. Come on.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I think the thing... No. Are you kidding me? Yeah. No. And I are you? No. And I think you can look at it also. Like, a lot of those names you gave, the key to Josh Jacobs' success is that he gets 90% of the team's rush attempts. And maybe they throw one or two passes to another running back. Like, he is fully dominating that backfield. And several of those guys that you gave had someone else who also scored fantasy points in that game i mean you
Starting point is 00:32:26 look at kenneth walker having 11.9 kenneth walker and travis homer combined for 18.9 rashad white and leonard fournette combined and for 20 23.3 like there there are days and the lead back did and whatever josh jacobs did is does is what the Raiders running backs will combine for. Sure. But if you look at the guys who are successful against the 49ers, it's almost always because they're catching passes. I don't know why that part of Josh Jacobs game has been gone the last four
Starting point is 00:32:58 games. But like I said, eight targets, seven catches in his last four games. If he's getting two catches in this game, I think he's going to suck against the, well, I think he's,
Starting point is 00:33:07 there's a good chance he's, if he gets, if he gets two catches in this game, he's going to need to score a touchdown or else he's going to probably really let you down. That's, that's a big concern I have, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:16 it's like, I just wish I could rely more on him in the passing game right now. I don't know. No, not feeling that. I, and it's true. And we run definitely players who have, I don't know. No? Not feeling that? It's true,
Starting point is 00:33:29 and we run definitely players who have bad games in the fantasy championship, but I'm not sitting the number three running back in fantasy. Okay, Dave, let's talk about Jarek McKinnon going up against the Broncos. I can't predict his role. I can't predict the catches. What do you think? Start or sit McKinnon?
Starting point is 00:33:50 I'm starting him. I still like the role that he's got. I know that last week was a little bit of a disappointment, but he still scored, gave you something. It was more of an even split in terms of overall snaps, but he played 7 of 12 on 3rd and 4th downs, 4 and 6 inside the 10. Completely happy to continue using him in PPR.
Starting point is 00:34:09 He's on the right type of team, and I think the Broncos defense might be ready to just kind of pack it in a little bit. Maybe they start out hot, and then eventually they realize, oh, we're playing against Patrick Mahomes. That's a really, really tough offense to deal with, and I think McKinnon can find his way to the end zone.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yet again, I think he can get you at least three catches. I like him better than Josh Jacobs this week. They are both number two fantasy running backs for me. Yeah, he's a low-end number two running back. It was very disappointing that his usage did not continue last week, and he only had eight touches against Seattle. And Isaiah Pacheco, his fumble is apparently forgotten because he was the clear lead rusher. I,
Starting point is 00:34:48 I think there is significant risk. We basically seen a month from Clyde, a month from Hardman as this stupid red zone efficiency guy. And I, you don't know when that ride's going to end with McKinnon. You're starting him based on that. And the chiefs are the right team to do that with, but he's not
Starting point is 00:35:05 a top 12 guy, certainly. No, I agree with that, but he's close. You've got to love the role, and that's a team that should still put up plenty of points. I don't love the role. You didn't love the role last week. He had eight touches last week. Yeah, that part stunk, but he still managed
Starting point is 00:35:21 to get you double-digit PPR points. The flukiest touchdowns with this guy. Well, not with this guy, with this offense. Sure, I guess so, but all of his touchdowns, almost all of them are like 10 or more yards. He's not that kind of player, but obviously the offense puts you in those good positions. So let's go to our next tough call, Ramondre Stevenson. So he's another, just like Josh Jacobs, catches have been down. He has two catches in three straight games.
Starting point is 00:35:49 One of them he left early, so it's really the last two. He did have five targets against the Bengals. The Dolphins have a terrific run defense. Stevenson hasn't been a prolific rusher lately, as the Patriots have really struggled to maintain possession. They've had a few games lately with fewer than 24 minutes, three games lately, actually, with fewer than 24 minutes, three games lately, actually, with fewer than 24 minutes of possession.
Starting point is 00:36:07 It's hard to run the ball when you're in that situation. Dave, against the Miami Dolphins, start or sit Ramondre Stevenson? Would you start Jarek McKinnon over him in PPR? I would not. I'm still going to ride with Ramondre, who's getting a ton of work. This is all, first of all,
Starting point is 00:36:23 you have to preface it by saying that we're assuming that Damian Harris is out again. So I'll start with that. If Harris is out, Ramond Ray had over 90% of the snaps last week. Dominated, had literally every single touch on third down, fourth down, inside the 10. He's playing a ton. So huge opportunity for him again. Dolphins have allowed 11 total touchdowns to running backs in their past eight games. I would fully expect Ramadre to score and find his way to at least 70 full yards. I know
Starting point is 00:36:52 that he hasn't been efficient lately, but I think he can still get you there. Hopefully he holds on to the football. To me, the issue is whether or not Damian Harris plays. If Harris plays, then that changes everything. And he might not even be any better than a top 20-ish type of fantasy running back. Because now the Patriots have options with their run game. They can go back to Harris, who is theoretically less, and can take a lot of work away from Romandre Stevenson. It could be a deal where it's like 60% for Stevenson, 40% for Damian Harris,
Starting point is 00:37:22 but they can both work any role, except for the third down roll, which would give Stevenson 40 percent for Damian Harris but they can both work any role except for the third down roll which would give Stevenson the nod but still not somebody that you'd feel good about starting I I think we might be overblowing Ramondre Stevenson's recent struggles because if you look at the game log it there's some concern but that week 14 game he three carries for eight yards so I don't think we're going to say he was in a shit in that game he just got hurt 13 snaps into the game he also had three targets on 13 snaps which is pretty freaking awesome the next week he runs for 172 yards on 19 carries only played 66 of the snaps his first game coming back from the injury last week it was 91 it was a great great run defense he wasn't good running the ball but
Starting point is 00:38:07 like still over the last month he's well over five yards per carry and he's over five yards per carry and three of the four last complete games that he's played well the dolphins run defense has been really good lately so i don't know i mean we just saw it against the bangles and he struggled obviously i mean is he going to struggle again against the Dolphins? Does he need the pass-catching role? And what do you think about the Damian Harris factor, too, Heath? I would definitely lower him to the RB 20 to 24 range. I think he's a tough call if Harris plays,
Starting point is 00:38:35 and he's not a tough call if he doesn't. Okay. Well said. Dave, I know that Heath's answer is going to be Jacobs. If Harris does not play, would you start Ramondre Stevenson or Josh Jacobs? Ramondre Stevenson or Josh Jacobs? Ramondre. Okay. If Harris does play, would you guys start Ramondre Stevenson or
Starting point is 00:38:51 Tyler Algier? Probably Ramondre. Ramondre. No. If Harris plays, I'd go Algier. Okay. Let's talk about the Jacksonville wide receivers at Houston. You know the MO here. Teams run and run all day on Houston.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Lawrence didn't, though. Way back earlier in the season, the first meeting, Lawrence threw 47 passes, and he just stunk. And Marvin Jones had a huge game. He had 104 yards, but Kirk and Zay Jones had 11 and 12 yards. Evan Ingram had 69 yards on 10 targets. But do we go back to these wide receivers, Heath? Christian Kirk and Zay Jones.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Last week, I think, was pretty excusable. Tough matchup, bad weather, short passes to Evan Ingram, not challenging the perimeter much at all. This week against Houston, what do you think? Did the Jaguars get that passing game going again? Do you start Christian Kirk and Zay Jones? Neither of them are top 24 wide receivers. I favor Kirk over Jones,
Starting point is 00:39:51 but I would be happy if I didn't have to start either one of them. Wow. Dave? I feel almost the exact same way. I do have Kirk as a top 24 receiver in full PPR, but trust is really the biggest issue here. And there are so many other interesting factors, including, as we've talked about twice already on the show, how much will the Jaguars' offense actually be on the field?
Starting point is 00:40:14 Because if they're up 21-3 or something like that, or if they're down 21-3, they'll pull all their starters because they know that their biggest game is next week, not this week. Makes me a little bit nervous to trust anybody in the passing game for Jacksonville. Makes me nervous to trust everybody except for Evan Engram, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Would you guys start Jahan Dotson and or Drake London over the Jaguars wide receivers? I'm starting London over both in PPR. Probably London over neither in non-PPR. Dotson over Zay in PPR. I think I have it Kirk, Rookies, Zay.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Okay. And Amari Cooper, six catches for 72 yards on 10 targets against the Saints, who have a terrific pass defense, and that was really bad weather. Now he gets Washington. Not exactly a cupcake matchup here.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Should be kind of probably a very run-heavy game, but it's a road game for Amari Cooper. Do you guys have him in your top 24? Dave? I do not have him in my top 24. I would rather start John Dotson, would rather start Christian Kirk, would rather start Drake London. I would rather start on Dotson would rather start. Christian Kirk would rather start Drake London. I would rather start Stefan digs. I am nervous about Amari Cooper,
Starting point is 00:41:31 although I have to admit he is getting closer and closer to connecting with the Sean Watson. And I do feel like Watson, I haven't watched the game. I didn't do my homework assignment. It'll get done before Friday. I think that Watson is, I just, just, I think that they're getting close. do my homework assignment for you, Adam. It'll get done before Friday. I think that Watson is... I think that they're getting close.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I think this passing offense, especially now that they're out of it, it just would make perfect sense that this is when the Cleveland Browns start to really click. Yeah, and I think Amari Cooper talked about that a little bit, how that's one of the big focuses
Starting point is 00:42:02 is that next year, that connection's going to be so much better, and they're really kind of force feeding it at this point to to work on it and so i'm i'm going to go with cooper as a number two i would start him ahead of i think most of all the guys that dave said except for stefan dicks yeah i definitely think there was a good connection and i remember he as dave mentioned yesterday he was wide open in the end zone lost his footing couldn't hang on to a ball. That was just blown coverage, but he could have had 90 yards and a touchdown against the Saints instead of six catches for 72 yards.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Watson's obviously had terrible numbers. I think he took a step in the right direction. It'll be interesting. It would be interesting if Cooper were playing well right now and then he had this road game, because then we could go back to the home road things. But right now, it's just been awful with Deshaun Watson in four games. Well, he had 13.2 fantasy points last week.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Sorry. Overall, it's been awful. But last week was definitely a step in the right direction for Cooper. Garrett Wilson. All right. If I know Heath, this is not a tough call at all. Garrett Wilson is a must start at Seattle. Top 12 wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Top what? 12. Top 12. Wow, Dave, how about you for Wilson? Don't have him top 12, but I do like him quite a bit. I have him 17th among wide receivers. I would start him ahead of pretty much every single receiver that we've talked about so far.
Starting point is 00:43:23 The Jaguars guys, Drake London, et cetera, just an awesome talent who's getting an upgraded quarterback. And it's not the easiest matchup in the world against Seattle. Get the idea of Tariq Woolen erasing him out of your mind. Why? Woolen plays one side of the field, and Garrett Wilson can line up anywhere the Jets want to put him. Okay, but he typically lines up on that side of the field about 60% of the time.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Okay. Well, that doesn't mean that on that side of the field about 60% of the time. Okay. Well, that doesn't mean that he's going to do it in this game. I'm sure there will be snaps where he is lined up across from Tariq Woolman, but it's more about the scheme that they're facing and the coverage that they'll face more than it is the people who they'll face. All right. And I don't think in clutch time, if the Jets move Garrett Wilson to Mike White's right, or they move him into the slot,
Starting point is 00:44:06 the Seahawks are finally going to say, all right, it's time to get you moving around to equal. And like, that seems like a tendency that we can bank on. We'll in playing to the quarterbacks left. So I'm totally good with Garrett Wilson. I would expect him to get North of 15 PPR points.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Okay. In the last seven games, look at what the Seahawks have done to number one receivers. DeAndre Hopkins, four catches, 36 yards and a touchdown on five targets. Mike Evans, five for 54. I don't know if you want to consider him or Godwin. Godwin plays in the slot more often than Evans, obviously. Devante Adams, seven for 74 on 11 targets. DJ Moore, no catches. Brandon Ayuk, two for 19. Juju Smith-Schuster, three for 27. So that's Hopkins, DJ Moore, Ayuk, and Juju
Starting point is 00:44:52 all under 40 yards. Evans with 54 yards. Devontae Adams, in the midst of his ridiculous stretch, went for seven for 74 on 11 targets. They are third best against wide receivers. So that's why I bring it up. Otherwise, it would be a no-brainer. I think part of the reason they're third best is because teams run all over them,
Starting point is 00:45:10 but I don't really think the Jets can do that. That helps Garrett Wilson. I'll just throw it one more time. Heathens, you have me in the top 12. Just told you what they've done against some pretty damn good receivers. That doesn't matter to factor in at all? It doesn't matter to me.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I think anybody but Zach Wilson is going to throw the ball 10 times a game to Garrett Wilson, and Garrett Wilson is a superstar who is a top 12 wide receiver as long as Zach Wilson is not his quarterback. They have had some good performances against some very good wide receivers. They've also given up some production against some very good wide receivers. I think he's going to score somewhere in the 15 to 20 fantasy point range this week. Okay. Let's do some Dynasty fill-in-the-blank. I asked you.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Wait, I just, I'm sorry to interrupt. I wish I could share my screen right now. I'm watching Deshaun Watson's throws from last week. I'm doing my homework assignment late, I guess. And I'm just now watching the incomplete touchdown to Amari Cooper. Cooper is running around like everything's normal on the play. And then literally as soon as the ball arrives, it looks like
Starting point is 00:46:10 it almost looks like when a wrestler pulls down the top rope to have somebody go over the top rope and they fall like on the back while holding the top rope in the Royal Rumble. That's what happened. It looks like he's purposely not catching the ball on the play. It's so funny. I wish I could show you this.
Starting point is 00:46:26 It's comical. That game, it looked like it was being played. You know how on a podcast you can put it in.75 speed? It looked like the players were playing. There's no slipping and sliding for Marco. He's literally running
Starting point is 00:46:42 around for a good five seconds. He doesn't lose his footing at any point. He's running an out route and then starts running back toward the post and he's wide open and no one's near him and then he throws and the ball's right there and he just falls flat on his back. It's just the craziest thing. Why are you
Starting point is 00:46:57 falling on your back at that point? The ball's not behind him. Sorry for the diversion. Okay, I asked you to fill in the blank. I would rather have blank than blank in Dynasty. We got some pretty good answers here. Let's see if we agree. From Gurmeet Sani, I would rather
Starting point is 00:47:14 have Jahan Dotson than Chris Godwin in Dynasty. Hmm. No. Disagree. That's probably I'm getting ready next week i'm going to update all four positions and the dynasty trade chart heading into the offseason and so it will be obviously an update without this year in consideration at all and i think that definitely helps dotson
Starting point is 00:47:38 um because i'd rather have godwin this week in the championship. But it's not as crazy as it sounds. Godwin's, what, 28 years old? No, he'll be 27. He's almost 27. 27? Okay. Yeah, I think Godwin's probably going to be right around 12th, and Dotson's around 20th. So I'd still rather have Godwin.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Chargin Chuck says, I would rather have Garrett Wilson than T. Higgins in Dynasty. I can't sign up for that one. I can't either. I had Garrett Wilson ahead of T Higgins in my last update a month ago. So yeah, Garrett Wilson was at wide receiver sticks. The last time I updated my dynasty rankings.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Do I think Garrett Wilson is the more talented receiver? Yes. Like talent standpoint. Like I'm really impressed with Garrett Wilson. I think he's an incredibly talented receiver. We don't know what his quarterback. Obviously it can't be as bad as Zach Wilson anymore. He's going to get somebody who's better,
Starting point is 00:48:40 but T Higgins has Joe Burrow for the foreseeable future of his career. I will say that Garrett Wilson without Zach Wilson this year has been better than T Higgins this year. Are you considering the three games where T Higgins barely played? No, but I am considering that Garrett Wilson had to play those games without Zach Wilson with Mike White and Joe Flacco. Yeah, I just love this. It just seems like, I was thinking about this this morning,
Starting point is 00:49:09 this seems like definitely a worse version of Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and they're going to burrow Chase Higgins. I just feel like they could be so good together for, you know. I'm not sure it's a worse version. Oh, it's a worse version. it's a worse version how could it not be chasen chasen higgins could absolutely be better than harrison and wayne oh my i don't know i mean talking about just from a you know from a passing standpoint from a number standpoint you know obviously 16 games versus 17 games but burrow is not going to do what payton manning was doing.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I guess off the top of my head, I don't know the stats for Harrison and Wayne, but I don't... No. I mean, I would definitely say that Higgins, and I don't know this, let's just... I'll look at it while you look at the next one, but I would guess that Chase is ahead of the pace.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Of Marvin Harrison after his first two years? No doubt. Oh, okay. No, I'm just, I'm just meaning like the prime years of that trio, Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison. I don't think Burrow is good. I don't think the Bengals trio is going to be as good as that. It's a notch below, but it's, if you, if you really think about it,
Starting point is 00:50:23 I think it is close. Yeah. It's exciting. You know, it's, it's exciting and if you really think about it, I think it is close. Yeah, it's exciting. It's exciting, and I think it's reliable. I think it's going to be very good. So you would still say, let's say Jamar Chase has no injuries, no major injuries. You would still say that Marvin Harrison ends up with a better career than Jamar Chase?
Starting point is 00:50:42 I don't know. I don't know. I mean, the sky is the limit for Chase. I think Higgins versus Wayne is probably... No, it's really Peyton Manning versus Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is not going to do what Peyton Manning did. That's basically what it is. The sky is the limit for Jamar
Starting point is 00:50:58 Chase. The catches won't even be close. For one thing, he's already, what, 26 years old. He was so old when he came in. Marvin Harrison, the catches, he's just going to crush Jamar Chase, I think, right? Per game. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I don't know if I can definitively say that. Chase is a really special talent. I know, but he's like a downfield, more downfield guy. Like, how many, Marvin Harrison was routinely a hundred catches. But he could also turn into an all-around mega stud. I mean, he basically could be if into an all-around mega stud. I mean, he basically could be if they wanted to use him that way. Jeez, look at this stretch.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Four seasons, Marvin Harrison averaged 117 catches. Per 17 games, he averaged 125 catches per season in a four-season stretch. A lot of that was 143 catches one year, but still, yeah, that's just who he was. He's just a different player. Okay, anyway, Art Vandele says, I would rather have Christian Watson than Terry McLaurin in Dynasty. I might sign up for that one.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Might sign up for that one. So far, that's the closest one that I've seen. And I've got McLaurin, and I could have had Watson, too, in my Dynasty League. I'm regretting it now. I think Watson could end up being pretty darn good. I had McLaurin 25 and Watson 30 a month ago, so it'll be very, very close in the next update.
Starting point is 00:52:25 There's a chance that this time next year, Watson 30 a month ago. So it'd be very, very close in the next update. It's, there's a chance that this time next year, we're talking about McLaurin as a really good number two receiver for the commanders. Yeah. It's it's interesting because it's, you wish you had a little bit more of a sample size with Christian Watson, but it's exciting from Greg.
Starting point is 00:52:42 This is, this is fun. I just have to do this. And it's a different era and that's one of the reasons I kind of bought it. First three seasons of their career, Joe Burrow needs basically 700 yards and four touchdowns in his last two weeks
Starting point is 00:52:59 to catch Peyton Manning for the first three seasons of their career. Manning played 48 games. Burrow-Wolfe played 43. Yeah. Manning's the first three seasons of their career. Manning played 48 games. Burrow will have played 43. Yeah. Manning's rookie year was awful. But that's not really what I was talking about, though. I don't see Joe Burrow putting up Peyton Manning numbers.
Starting point is 00:53:17 But the best year of Manning's first three was 4,400 yards. Burrow's already had a 4,600-yard season in year two. Played more games, though, in that season? He played 17 games. 16 games last year, 4,600 yards. Okay, so Heath, I know you're giving me all these numbers. Now I'm going to tell you that if you think Joe Burrow is going to be Peyton Manning,
Starting point is 00:53:41 then he needs to be number one in your dynasty quarterback rankings, okay? You could say this all you want. What I'm telling you is the game is so much different than it was in the late 90s and early 2000s. Yeah. Peyton Manning did not have a 5,000-yard season until he was 37 years old.
Starting point is 00:54:04 He didn't have a 4,500- yard season until his seventh year in the league. Yeah. All right. But I'm looking, but what was the year? When did Marvin Harrison, when was his, okay.
Starting point is 00:54:17 He broke out. I'm just telling you like, I'm not no borough relative to the rest of the league is not going to come close to Peyton Manning. I don't think, although'm not, Doe Burrow relative to the rest of the league is not going to come close to Peyton Manning, I don't think. Although, he might. But, like, just looking at numbers versus numbers, it's very possible. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Let's see. So, what do we got next? Greg Ward. I would rather have Justin Fields than Lamar Jackson in Dynasty. I would rather have Justin Fields than Lamar Jackson in Dynasty. I would too. First one I'm straight up buying. Yeah, I think that's right. I think things are wrong in Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Something's up. From Corey. Our buddy Jason Lacombe-Fora has seemed to, I don't know if it's like a full report, suggested that Jackson could be franchise tagged and then traded. Oh, wow. The thing I would say for Jackson is that as bad as quarterback play has been, if Baltimore
Starting point is 00:55:27 is willing to let him walk or trade him, there's a dozen teams that would just give him the moon. The heartbeat. Absolutely right. And like, what if he goes to Atlanta with Drake Lennon and Kyle Pitts? Okay, guys. Let's finish up here. Sorry for the
Starting point is 00:55:42 internet connection issues today, guys. Corey says, I'd rather have Amandra St. Brown than Jamar Chase. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. St. Brown has earned all the credit in the world in fantasy, but I'd rather have Chase. I would rather have Amandra St. Brown than Higgins. Sure. From Aaron, I'd rather have TJ Hawkins at Brown than Higgins. Sure. From Aaron,
Starting point is 00:56:06 I'd rather have TJ Hawkinson than Kyle Pitts in Dynasty. Yeah. Where do you have Pitts ranked, Heath? He was two in the last update. He'll probably still be two. I can't argue with anybody. Okay, I would rather have, from Michelle, I would rather have Linda Evans
Starting point is 00:56:25 than Joan Collins in Dynasty. I didn't get that joke at first, but those are both actresses from the show Dynasty, which is very, very funny. So very good, Michelle. From Nate, I would rather have Tyler Algier than Miles Sanders in Dynasty. As someone who has Tyler Algier on his Dynasty team,
Starting point is 00:56:47 I like to read that. And there's obviously some question about what Sanders becomes after this season. He's a free agent. Even if he stays in Philadelphia, it's not exactly a lock. You could talk me into it. The problem is that Algier is probably going to be in a timeshare as well. Two years from now, both these guys might be useless.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah, I think Algiers will sell, but Sanders is... Last update, I had Sanders at 23, Algiers at 31 at running back. I could absolutely see by May that Algiers is ahead of Sanders. Yeah, I think I could see it too. I think I'd lean Algiers, as weird as that sounds. Last one from Logs. I would rather have Trevor Lawrence than Justin
Starting point is 00:57:34 Herbert in Dynasty. Go ahead, Heath. I've still got Herbert higher. Let's hope Sean Payton fixes everything. Right. Because I really do believe that if herbert's got a good offensive line and a better play caller he could just be awesome for fantasy okay i mean lawrence has those things already though and he's going to get calvin
Starting point is 00:57:57 ridley next come on dave you got a picture you got a pick all right give me trevor lawrence all right i i do want to say that because i've had a lot of questions about calvin ridley and dynasty i'm i'm pretty skeptical he'll be 28 next year we've seen the rust deshaun watson had to work off i'm pretty skeptical of calvin ridley i i don't think we should like immediately re-anoint him as a top 12 dynasty receiver but i'm sure we're going to do some dynasty startup drafts, and I'm sure he'll end up going in the first five rounds. All right, time for emails.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. This one's from Andrew. Half PPR, who would you start? Cam Akers, Jerry Judy, or Christian Kirk? I think it's got to be Judy. Judy. I was like, why is he thinking about this so long? It's Judy.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Well, yeah, Cam Akers is coming off of a three-touchdown game. He's been playing well for the last several weeks. Is it crazy to think that he can't have another good game against the Chargers? I would love to have this conversation, but I'd like to just really get this show over with. Non-PPR, it's Cam Akers. This is Paul from Georgia.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Give me three of the following in full PPR. DJ Moore, AJ Dillon, Jarek McKinnon, Chris Olave, Tyler Algier, Jahan Dotson, and Chuba Hubbard. You say non-PPR? Full PPR. So DJ Moore for sure.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I would go with the first three. Moore, Dillon, McKinnon. Did you know that DJ Moore has basically become Gabe Davis? He is with Sam Darnold among the leaders in route depth and ADOT, and he's catching a big ball. And he has not had more than seven targets in like seven straight games or something.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I thought that was kind of interesting. His profile is a little scary. I know the production has been good, but he's relying on the big play every week. Well, there's not a must-start guy on that list for me. Moore, Dillon, McKinnon. Yeah, if Jones is out, I think Dillon's a must-start.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Algier? I think even if Jones plays. Okay, so Moore, Dillon, and McKinnon. From Devin. I would go Algier over Dillon unless Jones is out. Okay. From Devin. Help me beat my brother in the finals. Do I bench Aaron Jones for Chubbard or Dotson in PPR? I would not.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I think I would. If Dotson had an easier matchup and maybe with Heineke, I don't know if the quarterback matters as much. I'm kind of more excited about Dotson than I am Aaron Jones. I don't think Jones is right right now. From Anthony, Tyler Algier or Jarek McKinnon this week? I'll start McKinnon. Definitely Algier and non-PPR.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I've got Algier one spot higher in PPR as well. From Ken, he says, hey, Adam. He's not Adam. I'm Adam. Starting, Saquon Barkley as my number one running back. This is a touchdown-heavy standard scoring league. At number two running back, do I go Miles Sanders or Ezekiel
Starting point is 01:00:54 Elliott? The answer is Zeke if there's no Pollard. It's closer to his place. Yeah. How about this? I'll go Sanders if Minshew plays. But you're not going to know that
Starting point is 01:01:11 by the time the game comes around. We're not going to know Jalen Hurts' status by Thursday, are we? We might. You can't go with Sanders if Hurts is going to play. You take Zeke otherwise. And the last question from Ken is DK Metcalf against the Jets or Jahan Dotson against the Browns?
Starting point is 01:01:31 DK. DK. All right, everybody. Thank you very much. Again, apologies for the internet issues. I appreciate you bearing with us. And, yeah, sorry, it sucks. This is one small step for man,
Starting point is 01:01:46 one giant leap for mankind. Okay, okay, I get it. Thanks again. We'll talk to you tomorrow with Starter Sit for the AFC home games and we have a live stream at 2pm Eastern on Thursday if you have any questions before that Cowboys-Titans game.
Starting point is 01:02:01 See ya, everybody!

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