Fantasy Football Today - Week 2 Winners, Losers and Worroymeter! Burrow, Gibbs, Pierce and More (09/17 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts Week 2 was a massive week for quarterbacks and Fantasy scoring in general. Let's start with the big winners including Puka Nacua and Josh Reynolds, plus Zack Moss who absolutely dominated touches in the Colts backfield. Our losers (7:05) are headlined by Justin Fields and Joshua Kelley. Then we've got news and notes (12:30) as Anthony Richardson and Saquon Barkley are among the injured ... An early look at the waiver wire (19:50) plus more winners (23:30) and losers (28:15). We loved what we saw from Drake London and the Seahawks passing game. We hate what we saw from Samaje Perine and Quentin Johnston. Also, we've got the Worryometer (32:50) for Joe Burrow, Jahmyr Gibbs, Dameon Pierce and more ... A recap of each game with our Fantasy thoughts (41:35) ... Email us at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Well, that's more like it. Week one was kind of a fantasy dud. Week two was a fantasy monster. What a week, and welcome to the show. Sunday night, recapping the 1 and 4 p.m. games here as we get ready for Sunday night football here on CBS Sports Fantasy Football. Today, I'm Adam Azer with Heath Cummings and Dave Richard.

Guys, last week, we had three quarterbacks score 25 or more, uh, six, four, 25 or more, uh, fantasy points in six point for passing touchdown leagues, non-decimal scoring this week.

We've had, I think 13, I wrote 12, but then I think the hail Mary, which is like a perfect cap to the first slate of games, right? Amazing. And don't forget the Thursday game was a bonanza too.

I think 13. So that's already 10 more than last week, and we have three games left. I can really only think of one game where we had really high expectations and the results disappointed. The Chiefs game. The game of the

week. What was the game of the week last week? Oh, it was Browns-Bengals. it was oh it was brown's bangles terrible it was a terrible terrible game joe burrow like one fantasy point i need to explain something about the game of the week it's not it's not the big fantasy bonanza that's right it's just supposed to be a good game clearly these were it's just me now these are one score games these are one score games right they were close competitive yeah i mean, the Chiefs Jacksonville kind of was, it was a one score game because the Chiefs decided to kneel at the two yard.

That's true. That's true. Yeah. Those were, those were duds. All right. So, you know who to sit next week. Who's the biggest winner? Dave Richard from fantasy week two.

How about a name that you gave everybody before the season and no one paid any attention, but Josh Reynolds of the detroit lions who is still sitting on waivers in a ton of leagues six targets what does he do when he gets six targets adam yeah it's like 15 or more fantasy points 12 or more i forget what it was well he had 12 just on two touchdowns but he also had five catches for 66 yards on top of it. And if he keeps playing like this, we, we, we don't know what Jamison Williams is going to be when he comes back.

Yeah. Um, Dave froze for a second there. Heath. Good. I was glad that wasn't me. I agree. Leave it or not.

Ends up being. Sorry. He ends up mattering all season long. Yeah, no, you froze a little bit there. Sorry. Yeah,

of course I, it's okay. You're just getting warmed up that's okay so um i i think uh he's 20 percent rostered do you think josh reynolds should be more than 50 percent rostered yes uh 40 40 to 50 sounds really i think he should be at least twice as rostered. But this is not a must-start, right? This is maybe a must-roster, but not a must-start. But good for him. Correct. I'm sorry, Dave. One of the other wide receivers you gave as a winner

has got to be the big winner, or at least one of the big winners. Well, I mean, the big winner is Puka Nakua. All right, so that's what we got to talk about here. Puka, he set the NFL record. Shattered it, I think. How many catches did he have today? Did he have 15? Do you have any more, Dave?

20 targets, 15 catches, 147 yards. It's a bad receiving average because it's not 10 yards per catch, but he was well ahead of that before the end of the game. Just continued to get open against zone coverage. Good route running. He had a drop in the game. A couple of drops, actually, in the game, a couple of drops actually in the game. So he should have had even better numbers, but Holy moly, if he's going to keep getting work like this, even if you cut it in half, when Cooper cup comes back, it's a, it's a guy who you can

absolutely use in fantasy. Of course, he's a bigger winner than Josh Ronald. I was trying to give you props. It's okay. I appreciate that. Now Puka Nakua set the rookie record most catches in the first two games of a career. I think he had four more than the next best. All right, Heath, who's your big winner? I'll go with another guy who might only matter for two more weeks. Zach Moss, 100% of the Colts running back carries 100% of the Colts running back targets. Doesn't really matter how bad the matchup is in this offense, I don't think, if you're doing that. He is going to be a starter at running back

until Jonathan Taylor returns. And it's possible that this video coming out showing that Jonathan Taylor can now run and cut is just to say to the Dolphins or another team, come get me. It might be that Zach Moss is the starting running back for the Colts for the rest of the season. Or it could be to say to the Colts,

I'm going to be able to pass that physical. Don't think about trying to play games with my status because they could, if they can figure out a way, if they could weasel their way to keep them on pop for the whole year, then his contract holes. But what's the point of that? If you don't like, you don't want to pay him. They control year, then his contract holes. But what's the point of that? If you don't like, you don't want to pay him.

They control his, his contract for another year. You don't want to pay him or trade him right now. Why do you want to have that option again next year? Cause they might be able to get more in trade for him by then. I do not think his trade value will increase by sitting out for a year. All right.

Zach Moss is a winner. He has only 57% rostered. And like he'd said, he got every touch uh running backs and a big game is there anything the colts do that makes a lot of sense um i think it seems to me like drafting anthony richardson made a lot more sense than a lot of us thought it did when they did it at number four overall i think that was a very good pick i think it's looking pretty good now he did leave with a concussion, and that stinks.

But, you know, I was going to say, it wasn't really that bad of an injury day either. And then they had the Saquon Barkley thing. So we'll get to the injuries in a little bit. Barkley limping off with a minute and eight seconds left, I think. That was the worst. But I got to go back to something Heath said here. Were you saying it facetiously,

or do you really not think Puka Nakua is going to matter when Cooper Cup comes back? I think it's like what's happening with Puka is he's playing that Cooper Cupp role that could earn 20 targets in a game, because Cooper Cupp does that sometimes. I think it's very possible that Puka could be a number three wide receiver who sometimes falls flat once Cooper Cupps back. Now, just like I said, Jonathan Taylor might come back and be traded. Cooper Cupps old enough with a hamstring injury that's apparently kind of a chronic thing. Maybe he can't get healthy, and so Puka stays the number one. But I think if Cooper Cupp comes back and is the number one, then you're hoping that Puka's a number three wide receiver. Let's see. Last week, Tutu Atwell had eight targets. This week, Tutu Atwell had nine targets.

I would imagine that that would be the range for Nakua once Kup comes back. Yeah. Well, another good game for Atwell, too. All right. Who's the biggest loser of week two, Heath? I hate to say this. Justin Fields. I gave him last week as a grace period,

but I don't feel like he's improved at all in the pocket or in his processing. I'm very concerned as a dynasty manager specifically. This year, he's going to be a starting quarterback all year, and he's probably going to run enough to be a low-end starter. It's fine. But I'm not sure that he's going to take the next step. So you don't really have a lot of hope for him to be a top-five quarterback this year or around that?

You could turn things around. If you told me that Anthony Richardson was going to play every game the rest of the season and not leave early, I think I'd rather have him. He was 6 of 10 for 95 yards at halftime. Fields. Yeah. He takes a lot of sacks

too, and he fumbles a lot. Fumbled twice. He didn't lose either of them, but that happened a lot. Yeah, but he had some interceptions. Yeah, he struggled. He scored about 17 fantasy points today. It's crazy. Actually, both weeks, 16 and a half. He was actually, I think he was better in the first half and more aggressive in the first half,

and then he kind of went back into his shell in the second half. Well, the first drive, he had multiple downfield completions to DJ Morris. It seemed like when everything was scripted and they said, just drop back and throw it. Don't decide whether you think he's open, just throw it. And he did that. And then he wouldn't let go of the ball. You're right, Adam.

He just holds on to it way too long. Three of eight in the third quarter for 22 yards. Six sacks. Fourth quarter. Yeah, he's a sack machine. And most of those, I don't think, are the offensive line's fault. Right, exactly. Yeah, he just tries to do too much, I think.

All right, well, look. Fields showed last year that he could be, you know, not a great quarterback and a great fantasy option. So after two weeks, he scored 33 fantasy points in two games. But do you think he's a buy low? I, I think he probably is. I think you could definitely dangle a quarterback who might've had a terrible week one and a good week two or a good week one and a terrible

week two and turn them into Justin Fields. I'm trying to think about it. Then you've got to hope that Justin Fields does what he did last year. Slow start, something clicks, Bears go crazy, Fields has good numbers. Who are the guys who have, in terms of that buy low opportunity, who are the guys at quarterback who have passed Fields in terms of public perception? After one game, Tua Tunga-Vailoa, we'll see how he does on sunday night against the patriots um i think richardson if he's if it

comes out of the concussion protocol i think people might rather have him at this point yeah but he i don't think, would sell Richardson for Fields. Goff? Yeah, you could do that. I think that's past him. Cousins, for sure. If I could sell Goff for Fields, I would absolutely do that. What about Cousins? That's a good call. Would you trade Cousins for Fields? I would, for sure.

Okay, well, that's very reasonable. Very doable. Who's your other quarterback when you make this move? You're getting one back. I think if you're getting Justin Fields on your fantasy team, you need to have a plan B. And if Justin Fields is on your fantasy team right now, you need a plan B.

All right. Oh, you guys are giving me a little, like some bust vibes on Justin Fields. Okay. All right, Dave, who's your biggest loser?

By the way, Fields is at Kansas city, which might have a better defense than, than we thought pretty good so far at Kansas city next week. Dave, who's your biggest loser? By the way, Fields is at Kansas City, which might have a better defense than we thought. Pretty good so far at Kansas City next week. Dave, who's your biggest loser? Oh, we were so excited about Joshua Kelly getting that opportunity against Tennessee,

just the chance to play and get a lot of work, didn't we? 13 carries, three yards per carry. Look at all those catches. He didn't have any. He had one target in the game. This was a Justin Herbert game plan. He threw downfield quite a bit. Joshua Kelly thought we thought he'd be the guy that could at least get some decent numbers.

Nope. 3.9 fantasy points. Massive loser. Opportunity to be the 1B for LA. And I don't even know if he'll stay in that role. I don't know if they've got a good 1B at this point. Get well soon, Austin Eckler. He faced the Titans, though, so that was not...

We knew that was going to be an obstacle for him. A.J. Dillon was similarly not great. I mean, 15 for 55 and one catch. So it's... You know, we tell you to pick up these guys. Josh Kelly's jealous. You pick them up, and sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't.

All right, let's talk about some other podcasts that we have for you. We have so many freaking podcasts. Go to cbssports.com slash podcasts. We have Heath's Dynasty podcast. Every Tuesday, get an update on the latest Dynasty values. Oh, boy, in our Big Burger Dynasty League, I played the team that is tanking,

and thank goodness I played the team that is tanking. It wouldn't have been a good week for me if I wasn't playing team tank. Schaefer crushed me. Did he? Yes. Nice work, Schaefer. Let's see. So the team win now is

0-2. You changed your team name. You changed your team name in there. My team name is Loser! because that's what one of my co-workers called me on air. I don't know who did that. That's of my co-workers called me on air. Oh, okay. I don't know who did that. That's not appropriate. Anyway, we've got Morning Combat.

We've got a couple of soccer podcasts. We've got college football. Great stuff. All right, news and notes. Anthony Richardson did leave with a concussion. Gardner Minshew came in and played fine. And they're at Baltimore next week uh Joe Burrow aggravated his calf injury so this is a pretty big deal right I mean how do you guys feel about this that Zach

Taylor said Burrow could have gone in but he hasn't looked great through two games and uh you know he's not a hundred percent that's clear so Heath are you feeling about this? Did he aggravate it before he started playing week one? I guess he said they asked him how he was playing and how he was feeling after week one, I think. And he said, good enough. And then late in this game. So it wasn't to blame the entire game. It was late in this game. He re-aggravated it. Yeah, i don't feel good about it i didn't actually draft any joe burrow so i don't feel too bad about it but i don't think you have any choice but to continue starting him if the bingles start him you have to start him it's almost like you wish they would give him a couple of weeks off and you could start somebody else but you can't sit him if they're going to play him you have to assume that he's okay probably Probably talk about Chase later because Chase is off to a terrible start.

Chase should have had a touchdown. There was a third and five play in the first half. They were deep in the red zone. Burrow nailed him in the chest. Just a great play by a Ravens defensive back. I didn't get the name on a back shoulder throw. It should have been seven. And Ravens just broke it up, and that sucked for Chase.

T. Higgins came alive. I think Burrow looked better in the second half. I don't know if he got hurt late in the game. And that's kind of like what we're facing with now. But I actually thought he shook off all the rust by the time, like the end of the third quarter. Who, Chase or Burrow? No, Burrow. Okay.row? No, Burrow.

Oh, Burrow. Okay, okay. No, Burrow looked rusty last week, and there were some timing issues in the first half this week. Why? I'm sorry. Yeah, in the second half, I'm going over my notes now. The interception at the goal line on a throw to Higgins was terrible.

Yeah. And then after that, they dinked and dunked a little bit more. I think he started to look better then, but if he aggravated the injury in the fourth quarter or before, you got to keep an eye on it. It's the Rams next week. It's pretty clear that the

Rams are not going to be pushovers. That is not going to be an easy matchup for Burrow. Running back injury. David Montgomery left with what looks like a thigh bruise, and then I think to the dismay of many people, Craig Reynolds came in and was really the running back. Gibbs was on the field a lot,

but I don't know if we want to save it because I have a Worry-O-Meter segment, but maybe we'll save it. We'll talk more about Chase. We'll talk more about Gibbs there, but look, Gibbs had a ton of catches, but it's not what we were hoping yet. He was dominating playing time after the injury. But not really, though, because he wasn't being the running back. He was dominating them as a

receiver. Oh, OK. Well, I'll take that, too. He played 71 percent of the snaps after Montgomery got hurt. All five of their snaps on third and fourth down and their one snap inside the 10 their other running back is craig reynolds who's a decent solid guy but if montgomery's out gibbs will be the main guy i will just say and i see the things that gets everybody excited and once they bless david and more Jameer Gibbs. When he runs in a straight line, he's super, super fast. And he's got good moves. But he's not seized this opportunity.

He's made some mistakes. I don't think he's going to get a huge share of the rush attempts if Montgomery's out. All right, Devontae Adams was evaluated for a concussion. We'll keep an eye on that. Late in the game, that happened.

Garrett Wilson left in the fourth quarter, but he appears to be fine. But Saquon Barkley limped off in the fourth quarter, and that did not look good. And they have a Thursday game at San Francisco. So we'll keep you posted on that. But are you guys going to be looking to pick up Matt Breida? Let's say it's a multi-week absence, because I know we're not going to start Breida in week three

against San Francisco. But you're saying no, Heath. Multi-week would be different. It depends on how multi-week it is. Okay. But it's going to have to be like a month. Cam acres was inactive and Kyron Williams took advantage. Two touchdowns today and a boatload of catches. You always want to talk about that.

Kyron Williams, he went rest of season. Is he a starter? I think he was a big winner. One of the biggest winners. But yeah, I think what we said this morning was he's a starter after this week, but don't start him against the 49ers. He made us look silly.

We didn't expect Cam Akers to be out. I thought it'd be like 60-40 Kyron Williams. The only hesitation I have is we saw this last year, like almost exactly this time. What was it? Week three or week four came acres was all of a sudden like sent away from the team, maybe going to be traded.

And then three weeks later, he was the starting running back again. I fly through the rest of the notes here. We had a Dallas guard, Zach Martin left in the fourth quarter. Amonra St. Brown had some cramps. So did Travis Etienne. Detroit lost an offensive lineman

in the fourth quarter. Hala Vitae. Calvin Ridley hobbled off in the fourth quarter. I don't think there's anything bad there. He came back. Colts center Ryan Kelly left with a concussion. Odell Beckham left with an ankle injury. Jim Harbaugh didn't think it was a huge deal. What about John Harbaugh? He also, yeah, no, Jim was fine with it.

John said, though, that he was cool, that Beckham was okay. Probably. Washington tight end Logan Thomas left after taking a vicious and very cheap hit in the end zone. And it was a touchdown catch, but Thomas actually came back. So good for him. That was a really dirty hit. DK Metcalf left and come back.

This is a day of people leaving and coming back. And there's some defensive injuries that I'll update you on later in the week. Hopefully tomorrow. And Cooper Cup could apparently be back in week five. That's the hope for the Rams. And, all right. Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about the waiver wire.

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It's easy. It's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. All right, so who's the big waiver wire pickup? What do you guys think, Dave? A little Zach Moss in there. What do you think? Baltimore, though, in week three.

But who's the waiver wire gem? I guess Moss will be popular. Yep. It just makes sense. People are running out of running backs at this point. And here's a guy that just played every single snap, save for one, against Houston. And the matchup against Baltimore is tough,

but it's a huge opportunity. He's got some tough matchups coming up. It's Baltimore. It's the Rams. I guess the Rams isn't that bad. Tennessee after that. But by the time we get to that Tennessee game, it could be Jonathan Taylor. He's he looked like the Zach Moss that we remember. And the other thing about him is that he does have a

very long history of injuries. I mean, he broke his arm in August. So constantly battling injuries. So I have a hard time believing that Zach Moss is going to be like the league winning type, but you're looking for running backs that you can get by with and he certainly qualifies. I think he win you two weeks. What about the Baltimore matchup though? Is that, is this like another Josh Kelly versus Tennessee Zach Moss against Baltimore?

We've, the Ravens do a good job against running backs for two weeks in a row. I don't have any reason to believe that the Colts have a solution to beat that back. I think it'd be a high-end flex, low-end number two. The guy I was going to say was Tank Dell. Noah Brown goes on the IR. Tank Dell gets 10 gets 10 targets now they threw the ball a lot what was it uh

47 pass attempts for cj stroud but that's not that much different than what happened in week one they're really bad they're probably gonna throw the ball a lot and we knew coming into this year there was a connection between Stroud and Dell. And I love seeing it in week two, a rookie earning double digit targets. So I'll be adding Dell. Dell's fun too. Like he's the type of receiver where one big catch can,

can make the day. Yeah. We saw, I mean, he had a 23 yard touchdown. He's capable of catching a 73 yard pass. He's a super fast lean, but if he, if he's going to lead the Texans in targets and be right up there with Nico every week,

then by all means, man. And I think he could be. The thing about him is I know the height is what keeps people away, but he has elite traits. I think in terms of upside, he has more upside than Nico Collins. Sure. It's just can he overcome the deficiency? They have thrown 47 and 44 times in two games.

Did not expect that from the Texans. And we'll talk about Damian Pearson a little bit as well. I think we'll throw him on the worry-o-meter. We should talk about the Ravens running backs. I'm looking right now to see what their roster ship is. It's a weird situation between them. Because Justice Hill, available in 40% of leagues, led them in snap share, played half of their third and fourth downs.

Inside the 10, he played six of seven snaps. The one snap he didn't play on, Gus Edwards scored a touchdown. He also had all of the running back targets. Well, I mean, that's to be expected. Gus Edwards, he's already rostered in too many leagues. He's at 83%, so never mind. But I wonder if they make a switch and make it even

closer to 50-50 and give Gus the inside the 10 work. There were a lot of plays where Hill did not impress. Gus Edwards, one of my comments in the chat, Gus Edwards hasn't caught a pass since 2020. Might,

might be true. That might not be true. I think that's true, actually. All right, let's, let's talk about our winners and losers here. We've actually spoken about a number of them already. For Dave,

he had Puka Nakua and Josh Reynolds, and Drake London started in over 23% of leagues. Drake London goes off. Well, you know, for, know, by his standards. Six catches, 67 yards, and a touchdown on seven targets. That was after a catchless game on one target. Desmond Ritter went from 18 pass attempts in week one

to 32 pass attempts in week two. So, Drake London, are you going to have any faith in starting Drake London, knowing when to start him? He's at Detroit, then at Jacksonville. Maybe they'll have to throw more. What do you think? Exactly. Like the only game that you might worry about him

is week five against Houston. Wait, wait, wait. I'm going to worry about him every week. I'm going to worry about Drake London. You can worry about him all you want. He's at least a flex. He's at least a flex. We finally saw a game where Desmond Ritter

attempted 30 passes. He looked to London in some clutch situations. There was like a third and 15 play where he just threw it up nice and high for London to catch and come down with it. I believe the touchdown was on an improvisational play. These are the things that I like to look for when it comes to receivers. And look, last week was terrible. Barely got targeted.

First target of the game went to Drake London. I have a confession. I benched Drake London for Joshua Kelly today. I benched DJ Moore for Jerry Judy today. So we all make mistakes. But that's the thing. I mean, I feel like people are going to maybe pull their hair out trying to figure out when to start Drake London.

Are you telling me we're going to start him at Detroit next week? Yes. All right. As a number three receiver. Yeah. Okay. I mean, look, I'm not sitting here saying that he's about to win you your fantasy league.

But I think he's back in our good graces now. I don't know if you could, but if you could, would you trade Drake London for Garrett Wilson? Yeah. Yes. I mean, Zach Wilson is not going to be the quarterback

for the Jets much longer. I think that's probably true. I hope. How about Heath's winners? We had Geno Smith and Tyler Lockett and Zach Moss. We talked about Moss.

So let's talk about those Seahawks, that combo. Geno, 27.1 fantasy points. I don't even know if he's like a top eight quarterback this week it's crazy and tyler lockett with two touchdowns eight catches 59 yards two touchdowns so that was encouraging against the lions i was telling dave before we went on air that i felt like an idiot for about four hours maybe five hours this afternoon because

i in two different leagues, benched Geno for Daniel Jones and Russell Wilson. It ended up working out okay. But no, it was so encouraging to see him against a team that has a decent pass rush without either of his starting tackles, and they were able to protect

him, keep him upright. He was successful, took advantage of all of his wide receivers, but Tyler Lockett, 10 targets in this game, nobody else had more than six. This whole DK Metcalf is going to take Tyler Lockett away. JSN's going to take targets away from Tyler Lockett.

I don't think anybody's taking anything away from Tyler Lockett. Metcalf left the game for a spell. That could have played a role in why he only had six targets. but you you know as well as everybody else heath that there's going to be games where lockett as the target volume that we love and then the week after that it goes back to dk i'm just glad that gino looked pretty good in a tough spot with two backup tackles against the lions on the road

and gino i, made some great throws in the game. That game has had a lot of storylines. You had the Lions running back, but again, I know it was a bad day efficiency-wise for Ken Walker, but the role is still excellent for him.

The role is still excellent for Travis Etienne, although you might see the snap count looked a little wonky because at the end of the game, Etienne left because of the cramps. Yeah. But, yeah, we're looking at some of those battles here, and Charbonnet not really making much of an impact right now. Including at the goal line.

Right, exactly. Huge deal. Yeah. I will say if Charbonnet keeps turning 17 carries into 43 yards, Charbonnet is probably going to get a little more work. If Walker does, yeah. Walker does, yeah. All right.

And I got to say, I got to throw this out there because I brought it up going into week one. The Lions run defense in the second half of the season was really, really good, except for one game against Carolina where they were terrible. But they were great against Pacheco. They were great against Ken Walker. I know he scored the season was really, really good, except for one game against Carolina where they were terrible. But they were great against Pacheco. They were great against Ken Walker. I know he scored the two touchdowns, but he really did nothing other than that.

All right. Those are the winners. Let's go to the losers. Heath, you had Justin Fields as a loser. And now Dave had Javante as a winner. Heath, you had Samaj. I did not have Javante as a winner. Oh, you had him as a loser.

I had Javante as a loser. Okay. You each had a separate Broncos running back as a loser. I think Javante is a loser. You each had a separate Broncos running back as a loser, so this will be interesting. Heath, you had P. Ryan as a loser. He had four touches. I think my case is a little easier to make. Adam just made it.

He had four touches. Jaleel McLaughlin scored a touchdown. I don't know if P. Ryan had a touch in the first half. He was just completely off the board. Um, I, this turned over much quicker than I thought that it would.

I'm glad we got one startable week out of Samaj P Ryan. I'm not sure we get another one. P Ryan did not have a touch in the first half. Yeah. Samaj P Ryan led the Broncos with a 50% snap share. He played 10 of 14 snaps on third and fourth down, five of seven snaps inside the 10. Javante played 45%. Jaleel McLaughlin, three snaps,

and yet he was in on a touchdown run. It was a speed play to the left side, so it made sense that he was in there on that specific play. I'm going to go back and watch again for the second week in a row, but from what I saw with Javante, I did not see.

I saw one nice run. He had a 15-yard run. Not sure he had anything else that was good on top of that. This is an offense that the stats are going to look a little bit better because Russ hit some deep shots, including a Hail Mary. I'm not a big fan of what I'm seeing from the Broncos so far to start the year. Don't you think it looks better than last year, though? Last year they looked clueless and helpless. This year they just look low average.

Yeah, it's better than last year. All right. But Russ was still 18 of 32. I mean, I could argue that Javante is a winner because he had 12 carries and the other guys had a combined two. He had 14 total touches for 58 total yards. I mean, it's not a great game. I get that. Right.

So how do you feel confident starting him moving forward? Not yet. Is that Miami next week? Okay. I'd probably start him against the Dolphins. Yeah, like Dolphins and Bears are the next two games. Then he's got the Jets, the Chiefs, the Packers, the Chiefs, a bye. Buffalo.

Look, I think the broader point, if you drafted Javante Williams thinking he was going to be a starter early in the season, I think that was kind of wishful thinking, right? We didn't draft him until round seven. I know that. Nobody did that. I'm saying, I know, we didn't, right? So I think you had to play the long game with Javante. And I think at least from a, from a

usage standpoint, this was a very encouraging step of him just completely owning the carries. Yeah. But he didn't play on these value touches that we want our running backs to play on. Okay. Let's see if he even played one snap inside the 10. Okay. Like that's a problem. And it might get fixed in a couple of weeks. That's the one thing I'll say about Javante is that right now he doesn't look like he's running with a lot of explosion. But three weeks from now, six weeks from now, he might. This is what happens with guys that are coming back from the ACL.

And then I had Quentin Johnston, and we are really close. I think he got dropped in a few leagues after week one. He's going to get dropped in a lot more after week two, and I'm going to keep telling people don't drop him, but it's going to get harder and harder to hold on to him. In a day where Justin Herbert throws it 41 times, he gets two targets and catches one of them for seven yards. It's very discouraging usage.

You know who I dropped him for? Javante played one snap inside the 10. Russ got sacked on it. You know who I dropped Quinton Johnston for? Let me think of the worst backup. Josh Kelly. No, I dropped him for Jamie. Jamie Eisenberg.

Oh, there he is. Jamie's here happy sunday start of the week nice that's the start of the week my grandma would have celebrated the same way oh jamie terrific call on the start of the week that's that's dave's grandma um all right let's go to d Dave's losers. He's got Javante Williams and then AJ Dillon and Josh Kelly. Are we good there, Dave? We kind of talked about all three. My grandma was a whiskey-drinking, cursed-like-a-sailor type of gal.

I miss her. Let's do the Worry-O-Meter. All right, I got to go to X here because I said, who's on your Worry-O-o-meter? Let me see some of the replies. Don't you love outsourcing but letting other people do your work for you? This is a good one from Dylan.

Jahan Dotson. What's your worry-o-meter? Zero to ten on Jahan Dotson. Six. Three. Not too much panic there. Who said six? six heath i did you're the most worried yeah i'm i might have had him ranked the highest that would make sense um it's it's not been a great start to the season terry mcclure made a spectacular play for his touchdown catch you sure did um i'm not feeling great about dotson being the number one wide receiver in this offense,

and I'm not feeling great about rostering the number two wide receiver in this offense. It just feels like there's too much of Diami Brown and Logan Thomas and Curtis Samuel. John Bates. John Bates, right. Yeah. Kudos to Sam Howell. He spread the ball around, but not good for us when we want to get concentrated targets for these guys.

Right. I'm going to throw these guys out there. I'm sure they're in the Worryometer mentions, but I think we just have to talk about them. Jameer Gibbs and Damian Pierce. Who's higher on your Worryometer right now, Gibbs or Pierce? Pierce. Pierce for sure.

I mean, you've got a bad offensive line, and David Montgomery just got hurt for the line. So if there is an absence, then it should help Jameer Gibbs. But I think for Pierce, it's now two frustrating games and three-fifths of the offensive line was missing for the Texans today. Yeah, Pierce is an 11. Gibbs is like a six, unless Montgomery is hurt, and then he's a 3. Okay.

So if you were redrafting, let's say Gibbs was a third-round pick. He was. And I think Pierce was a fourth-round pick by the end of it. What round would you take them in a 12-team PPR league? Four and five, maybe down a greater round. I'm not ready to panic to that level. Four and six. Sounds about right.

Houston's schedule moving forward. Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, New Orleans, and then a bye. At what point do you think about going after Pierce as a bye low? If at all. No. Are any of those teams a better matchup, we think, than the Colts? So I would argue that maybe the Colts are a bad matchup

because the last time they had Shaq Leonard, or Darius Leonard, Shaq Leonard, sorry, they were terrific against the run. And that was two years ago. So I thought there was a chance that they would be very terrific against the run, and that was two years ago. So I thought there was a chance that they would be very good against the run. They were both, they were okay against Jaguar. I mean, they had that long run

to ETN at the end. How much different does it look if Tunsell's out there and everybody's healthy for the Texans? That's a big part of it. And for what it's worth, if there's anything the Texans take out of this is that their passing game might be better than we expected. Yep. Which Pierce is not involved in. Oh, by the way, there was another three-headed If there's anything the Texans take out of this is that their passing game might be better than we expected. Yeah. Yeah.

Which Pierce is not involved in. Oh, by the way, there was another three-headed split at running back for the Texans on Sunday. But it wasn't Mike Boone this time. Daria Gumbawale played 20% of the snaps. Was that because of the blowout? Yeah, Damian Pierce actually played a lower snap share this week than last week. But was that because of the score? Was that fourth quarter?

Do we think the score is going to be different moving forward? Right. You get killed every week. All right, let's see. Josh Jacobs from Robbie. Josh Jacobs. What was his stat lines? It was like negative eight yards.

It was disgusting. I think it was nine for negative two. Nine for negative two. Nine for negative two, five catches for 51 yards. Worryometer. Three. See, this is like a worryometer with an asterisk because I'm worried because of what the expectations are.

Right. So, I'm worried he's going to live up to being a second round pick is he gonna live up to 14 ppr points per game because that's where he was every year before last year he'll get there i like next three weeks steelers chargers peckers i if he's not looking better in that stretch then i'm gonna be really worried but it's been a tough start to the year. Yeah, he didn't play on any of the Raiders snaps inside the 10 this week. Because they didn't have any snaps inside

the 10 this week. This was, though, as Pete Prisco, I thought, accurately put it, an ambush for the Raiders. This was going to be a horrible game for them. So they get their first home game this week. Steelers will be on a short week.

Let's see how he does. It's not a short week. They're playing on back-to-back Mondays, aren't they? It's Monday night next week. It's Sunday night. My bad. I thought the Steelers were playing on Monday. It's not. It's Sunday night. Okay. I forgot.

I lost my train of thought. Okay. Let's how about get a few more here. A lot of Dotson in here. Some Gibbs, Javante, the Bears running back. So we want to address that. I mean, do you guys ever feel like you're going to want to start a Bears running back? Not right now. Well, both are healthy until one separates from the other.

But I still think there's, you know, like, both are healthy until one separates from the other, but I still think there's, you know, like, what are you worried about? You're worried about these guys that you drafted to really be on your bench. I'm worried about them being useless. I mean, if, if I were worried, it would be too, you know, too valuable to drop, but not good enough to start. I hate, I mean, look, if, if Zach Moss is on your waiver wire at this point and you want to drop one of these guys for Zach Moss, I get it. If you want to drop one for Matt Breida because of Saquon Barkley's injury, I get it.

But, like, who stood out today that's a waiver wire guy that you're dropping those guys for? Josh Reynolds. I guess, yeah, if you need a receiver. I don't know. I mean, you might want to just play the long game and be patient. Yeah, that's my point. Like, you got to really find somebody out there that's going to help you

to punt on players like this. Like, Jalen Warren may have a crappy game against the Browns. I'm not going to drop him yet, you know, for just anybody. Yeah, I think you're adding those waiver wire guys if you need to start them next week. But if you're talking about bench guys, I'd rather just hold on to Roshan or Herbert. Okay, one more guy here on the Worryometer, Kyle Pitts.

Parentheses, I knew I shouldn't have drafted him. That was from J Sports. Kyle Pitts. And I'm laughing. Zero to 10 on the Worryometer. Yeah, I've got him on a bunch of my teams too. How about Jonu Smith out producing Kyle Pitts in week number two? Zero to 10 on the Worryometer. Yeah, I've got him on a bunch of my teams too. How about John Smith out producing Kyle Pitts in week number two?

Zero to ten on the Worryometer. Kyle Pitts. Six. Oh, it's like a seven. Yeah. I hope next week's his week. It was Drake London's week. Let's hope next week's his week. Yeah. He's 70% started 95% rostered. Are we now, I don't know if you guys

were already there, but ready to stream over Kyle Pitts? I'll take another week or two. I think it depends on who we're talking about, though. Like Laporta, probably. Ferguson, maybe. Those two guys stood out today in terms of what they've done for two weeks, in terms of targets and opportunities in production, you know,

for whatever it's worth with those two guys. I'm trying to think if anybody else stood out. I don't think there really is. I'm ready to make the change to Taylor Heineke, but they're 2-0, so they're probably not going to do that. No, no shot. I just don't think Desmond Ritter is the right guy. Second best passer rating in the NFL in week one.

So you know. Okay, we'll take a break here. When we come back, we will recap all of the games, baby. Stay tuned. We'll be right back, baby. All right, we're back. Let's get into the games. Tampa Bay 27.

Oh, he's going to give us a believe it or not. And I don't have to answer anymore. So Jamie and Dave can say if they believe it. Am I really? Yeah, we're going to do that. That's your thing. Podcast exclusive. Okay.

Tampa Bay 27, Chicago 17. We're all idiots and Mike Evans is the number one wide receiver again. Believe it or not. Believe it. I don't believe that he's the number one receiver.

I could say, I don't know that you could ask for a better schedule to start the year though, with Minnesota and Chicago. Well, how do you guys feel about that aspect of it? Cause Evans agreed.

And Philadelphia with the way they look that's next week. Potentially. Yeah. But that, you know, so, so what do you do with that? I mean,

do you trade them? Oh, he's a definite sell high for sure. But yes, you, you start him. I mean, look,

if you drafted him, you drafted him in some cases as your third receiver. Like, why would you not be starting with this point? Would you start him. I mean, look, if you drafted him, you drafted him in some cases as your third receiver. Like, why would you not be starting him at this point? Would you trade him for Brandon Ayuk coming off a bad game? Evans or Ayuk? Who'd you rather have? Evans. I think it's Evans. Is Ayuk okay?

He left two different times with a shoulder. Oh, I only knew he left once. I don't know if he's okay. Yeah, Evans for me. All right. Rashad White, nice game. Joe Boo, Dave, you showed up. You did.

Bears defense will do that for you. Two fans, Nair's words to heart. I don't love the upcoming schedule here. Eagles, Saints, bi-week lions for rashad white is this so high for sure okay would you uh oh man who could you turn him into can't turn him into jameer gibbs uh damian pierce rashad white and puka nakua into Jamar Chase. There you go. I don't know. You're losing the best player in the deal.

Yeah. No, yeah. Okay. Okay. Anything else from this game? I think Jacob feels about that trade now. What was the trade? He gave up Puka for Chase?

No, he gave up Puka, Devante Smith, Brees Hall, and some other receiver of significance. Ayuk. I remember this. Considering that Jacob has 110% exposure to Puka, I think he's probably okay with it. All right. We already talked about Justin Fields and the Bears running back. DJ Moore had a nice game. You think he's

going to be a start next week for you at Kansas City? DJ Moore? Must start. Number three. I think he's going to be somewhere between 20 and 28 in the rankings. All right. Baltimore 27, Cincinnati 24. Believe it or not, Jamar Chase should have been on the worry-o-meter.

Nope. Don't believe it. You can put him on there. We'd give him a one or a two. I feel like he had a i know they the team had a slow start last year but i think chase i remember us saying by low by low by low last year do we have any fear that he's not an elite player is joe burrow going to take any time off right so that would obviously it doesn't sound like it matter you never know yeah it's weird you know last week i offered digs for chase and it was declined and right now i'm feeling a little relief jamar chase had 10 catches for 129 yards and a touchdown in week

number one okay he had a stretch i don't remember him having a slow start what was that what after what about after that? Did he have a bad stretch? He had a bad game against Dallas and then against the Jets He scored six catches, 29 yards A total of 35 targets in his first three games

I mean, yeah, a touchdown in his hands that got ripped out We mentioned that Alright, let's see, what else here? Lamar Jackson with a nice... God, this new desk situation is not working out for me. Nice bounce back game for him. I can't wait to see your new background.

I think I'm just going to use the same background. Isn't that pathetic? But just a different wall? Yeah, different house. What do you think about the Ravens receivers? Nelson Aguilar with the big game today Andrews had eight targets I believe that was a team high but Flowers luckily he had a long catch um a 52 yard gain but I don't know I mean your Dave your overall thoughts on the Ravens uh receivers I think Lamar had a solid

game not a great game he did have a couple of nice throws in there, but there was a lot that didn't go right for the Ravens offense. And to be fair, he was playing behind an offensive line minus two starters. When he did run, a lot of it came in the second half. It was kind of smart when he did it. I think he's obviously a must-start fantasy quarterback moving forward. I wonder if you could approach the fields manager with Lamar, if you wanted to and try and sell very high on Lamar, don't trade them just to trade them.

Unless you think he's going to stink against the Colts next week. Then Brown Steelers after that, I'm not saying to sell high on Lamar Jackson, but if you can sell very high, I might try it. I might do it. You're saying sell Lamar for fields. No, no, no. Do not do that. Oh, no. I'm sorry if it came off that way. No, you're trading Lamar and you're going to get a starter at another position.

Lamar or Burrow rest of the season. I like Lamar better to start the season. So I would take Lamar. I agree. Yeah. And obviously if Burrow is hurt, you can't say Burrow. Yeah. All right, so that's it for that game. T. Higgins, nice bounce-back game for him. What about the running backs? Don't you think we should talk about that? Well, we just can't talk about everyone.

We actually already talked about the Ravens running backs. Okay. Mixon, though. That's okay. Mixon had another pretty good. He's off to a good start, just not putting up huge numbers. 13 carries in each game is low, but they're probably not running that many plays, my guess.

Yeah, I don't know. Bad game scripts. Atlanta 25, Green Bay 24. Jordan Love, by the way, is 77% rostered. He has now scored 26 or more points in each game. What's our believe it or not for this one? Well, I mean, it was 14 of 25 for 151 yards. It was very fortunate that he had three touchdown passes,

but the believe it or not is Jaden Reed will be better than Romeo Dobbs rest of season. No, I don't believe it. I'd like to know how many, what percentage of snaps Dobbs played. I'm going to look that up real quick. I would like to know how Jordan Love will look when Christian Watson's playing. Yeah. Was Dobbs even on the injury report Friday, though?

I thought he was. I don't think he was. He was a full-time player. Let's see. He... Hold on. Well, this is enthralling stuff here. But, yeah, Jaden Reed.

36 of 47 snaps. So yes, he was a full-time player. I wonder why AJ Terrell lined up. I don't know if I've got that right now. Okay. Anyway, Dobbs, huge disappointment. 84% rostered. But not a great day for Love passing the ball,

except for the touchdowns. But only 151 yards. And Atlanta possessed the ball for over 36 minutes. So green Bay didn't run that many plays on the other side of the ball. I don't even know what to say about Bijan Robinson. He's absolutely incredible. And I just, every time they give it to Algier,

it's like they're hurting their chances of winning. I'm sorry. Not to say that Bijan should get every carry, but it was the, it was the fourth quarter and they were about to start their game-winning drive. And Algier gets a carry. I was like, what are you doing? These are too important.

Stop. He had 23 touches in the game. Like, when you're going to run the ball 75 times. Not in the fourth quarter. He should not touch the ball in the fourth quarter. Like, ever. That's an exaggeration. Well, then you have to have more carries

in the first, second, and third, then. All right. B. John's just so good. You have to have more carries in the first, second and third. Then I just be John's just so good. He is a gift to football. They had 45 rush attempts in this game. And Ritter had 10 of them. They crushed time of possession.

They were sorry. Yeah, they did what the Falcons do. The fact that they ran it 35 times and Ritter still threw 32 times is a damn miracle for the Falcons do. The fact that they ran it 35 times and Ritter still threw 32 times is a damn miracle for the Falcons. Well, they ran 48 plays in week one.

I think they ran 72 this week. Okay. I think you pretty much know what to do with the Falcons. We'll just have to play the Drake-London game every week. Indianapolis 31, Houston 20. We talked about Moss. We talked about Pierce. We talked about Tank. game every week. Indianapolis 31, Houston 20. We talked about Moss. We talked about Pierce.

We talked about Tank. Talk about Richardson because I know he's got the concussion, but hopefully that's not a long-term thing. So how are you guys valuing him? He scored, I don't even know how many he scored.

I don't think I need to say believe it or not, but we all agree that Anthony Richardson is a must-start quarterback whenever he plays, right? Yeah. You there right? Yeah. You there yet?

Yeah. Yeah, you start him. There it is. What do you think you would have finished with, 30? I don't know. The problem is you got a lot of fantasy managers that are going to have Richardson and someone really good. So Heath and I got into it this morning, Richardson or Herbert,

and I said Herbert in four-point. And you thought I was being unreasonable. I want to clarify that because it was not that you thought Herbert in four point. It was the disdain with which you said right after I answered the question, start Herbert. Like you just dismissed what I had said. That was my issue. It was not that you chose Herbert. It wasn't personal. But going into week two, I didn't think Richardson was yet to

be in Justin Herbert's weight class. Herbert had a good game, thankfully. Sure, I think that's going to be the tough part, but if you don't have one of those guys, yeah, you start at Richardson. Hopefully, he's back soon. What about Minshew, guys? Look good. Always does.

Always produced. We'll see what happens. We'll talk about that later in the week. On the other side of the ball, anyone have any interest in Robert Woods? He's had at least 11.7 PPR points, at least nine targets and six catches in each of the games. And yet he hasn't...

He's got receivers. Yeah, he's not even close to being their top receiver. I think Nico Collins deserves some, some love here. Yeah. Cause he looks like, like tank Dell speedy for sure. We'll see if he can keep up a seven catch pace,

but Nico Collins now two straight weeks has been the number one guy for Houston. And I don't see that changing. I think he's going to be a useful fantasy starter as at least a high end flex until he's not. I think it lasts a long time. First game without Noah Brown was good. Right.

Yeah. Kansas city, 17 Jacksonville, nine terrific job by iron Eagle, making a blank space reference. When Travis Kelsey caught a touchdown, he what's our, believe it or not for chiefs Jags. I struggle with this one. an Eagle making a blank space reference when Travis Kelsey caught a touchdown. Heath,

what's our, believe it or not for chiefs Jags. I struggle with this one because I, it was such a huge disappointment. I thought from the Jacksonville side of things, the chiefs didn't play well at all. Had a hundred yards and penalties. And I guess, believe it or not,

Calvin Ridley is not actually a number one wide receiver. Fantasy wise. No, you believe he still is. I believe he is a high end. Number two. I number two. Yeah,

you got it. You can't say no. You're confusing. You got to say, believe it or not. I don't believe it. I believe it. Yes.

He's not a number one wide receiver. Those devil negatives get really messed up. He had about seven almost touchdowns. Zay Jones, I think, had two. I think Ridley had two or three. They had a bunch of balls they threw to the back of the end zone. Trevor Lawrence, bad.

Yeah, he struggled. Also, I think it's worth mentioning, I'm counting it now. One, two, three, four, five. I think five carries for Pacheco on the final drive of the game of his 12 and cannot. I don't know what his snap count was, Dave, but I can't think of another explanation other than he doesn't know the offense because he's just not playing for large stretches of the game. Yeah, fun, because that's what the case was in New York, too. He played 19 snaps, 19 of 64 snaps for Kadarius Toney. I don't understand it. Dropper st snaps for Kadarius Toney.

I don't understand it. Drop or stash. Drop or stash, Kadarius Toney. I'm holding him. I'm a sucker. I don't know when you'll feel good starting him. Drop him for Josh Reynolds, Jamie says. Yeah.

I agree. I don't know when in the world you would feel good starting Kadarius Toney. I'll give the hypothesis. He learns the offense and starts playing 50 snaps a week. in the world, you would feel good starting Kadarius Toney. I'll give the hypothesis. He learns the offense and starts playing 50 snaps a week, and he's going to be a top 20 wide receiver. I don't want to just assume

that he doesn't know the offense. I did read, I think it was a Giants beat reporter or something, saying that the Giants viewed him as a gadget player. That might be a possibility too, that he's just not a legit every down wide receiver.

He's a guy that you have to script plays for basically. Right. I didn't mean to insinuate anything negative by that. I just, he's so good with the ball in his hands. Yeah, he's excited. By the way, Sky Moore had a pretty big game. Yeah, I don't think we should forget about Sky Moore. Awesome touchdown catch.

Three targets? Yeah, no, pretty big game. He had a touchdown and a big catch. Okay, but he had 70 yards and a touchdown, so that shows up in the box score. Right, but it's promising. Look, I was just bringing it up basically so you can dismiss it if you wanted to dismiss it,

but I did feel like it needed to be brought up. Look, it's encouraging, because after a disappearing act in the preseason and a disappearing act in week one, he was statistically their best wide receiver. But how much faith do you have in him? So if the question is Sky Moore or Kadarius Toney, I guess I'll flip-flop and say go back to Sky Moore this week just because he was the better of the two

and seemingly going to play a lot more. But, I mean, Richie James has the muff punt, you know, so what does that mean for his playing time moving forward in any capacity? Kadarius Tony, like he said, you know, seems like he's lost out there. So how much are they going to trust him after supporting him all week long following the drops? I mean, they got to figure this out. You know, there's definitely something that's got to come from this group that makes some

semblance of, okay, these guys are the three that we're going to go with, or the two, along with Marcos Valdez-Ganley. I mean, hopefully it's Raji Rice, and he's the one that steps up and starts to play like the guy that they drafted him to be. But you know how it is with rookie receivers here. So there's going to be mixing and matching. I don't think there's any Chiefs receiver you can look at and say, I'm going to be comfortable and happy starting this guy week to week.

Do you feel like you're going to be comfortable starting Christian Kirk week to week? Huge. More than those guys, obviously. Yeah, separate conversation here, though, because he follows up a one catch game with 11 catches for 110 yards on 14 targets. I don't know if it's going to be like this every week. Certainly next week against Houston seems like a game where Jacksonville might be able to take their foot off the gas and run it. So I don't know if I'll love them next week. I don't know how to,

I just, how do I value Christian Kirk after one time? I think he's in the flex conversation from week to week. Okay. Tennessee 27 chargers, 24. Oof. Um,

Ryan Tannehill has something left in the tank, believe it or not. Great throw to Berks. 70 tank, believe it or not. Great throw to Burks. 70 yard. Believe it or not. Uh, I don't think it matters. Great. He's got something left in the tank.

He totaled two touchdowns. You know what? Let's give Heath another try here. I think you can do a better believe it or not. What would you like? Derrick Henry's top five running back again in world dummies give me a Mike Williams

or DeAndre Hopkins give me a Williams or a Hopkins believe it or not well Hopkins was hurt like I don't think there's much to say about that Mike Williams

is a boom bust number three wide receiver we all know that I don't know I mean these things are obvious is that obvious? Is Mike Williams just the boom bust number three wide receiver?

If this is what he is, I'll take it. May I try my hand at a believe it or not? Please, Dave. Believe it or not, you should sell high on Justin Herbert. This is as good as he's going to get. Oh, now Minnesota and Vegas coming up. Yeah, I don't believe that. I just wanted to put it out there.

Yeah, I like that. It's okay. He's underwhelmed a little bit. I'm glad you like that one, Adam. Because we all agree in the opposite direction. It's much better. Well, what do you mean? I think you have to have some not-believe-its, right?

You got to keep people honest. I have lots of not-believe-its. I would like the Chargers to get a new coach. That would be nice. All right, Heath. What do we got for Buffalo and Las Vegas? We talked about Josh Jacobs. James Cook is a must-start running back.

Believe it. Yeah. James Cook with 21 touches and 159 total yards. I think I did that math right. But I was going to say his biggest run came at the end of the game when the game was out of hand. No, look, he's really good, but it is really frustrating. I can't believe how many goal to go opportunities they had.

And it was Harris Latavious Harris Latavious Harris. James Cook got in there, I think once. So I, I do want to know what you guys think about that. It is, you know, I don't like it.

Yeah. I don't like it either, but what does it mean for James Cook's value? As he seems to have touchdowns will come. Yeah. I don't think you're starting. I'm hoping that he finds the end zone when Latavious and Damien Harris each played six of 16 snaps inside the 10.

I just think if he's going to handle more than or half or more than half of their rush attempts, and he's going to catch four passes a week, you're okay. If he only scores from outside the red zone yeah how many how many touches did he have in week one i want to say it was 16 it was 17 12 carries five catches okay so 17 touches in week one carries four catches on five targets so 16 yep 16 in week one 21 touches in week two these guys these are the types of players you want starting in fantasy

yeah but not with like grand expectations because yes the touchdowns will come but they'll be from like 15 yards out 35 yards out yeah you're not gonna get any six seven touchdowns tops for the season but still if you're gonna get a a 1,200, 1,300 total yard guy, that's pretty impressive. Yeah. How about four of the five Bills touchdowns? Damian Harris, Latavius Murray, Khalil Shakir, Dawson Knox. Yeah. Weird game.

I think this is honestly, I think, a reasonable question. Otherwise, I wouldn't ask it. Let's say David Montgomery misses one game. He has a thigh bruise, it seems. I thought it was a serious knee injury. But if it's a thigh bruise, would you rather have Jameer Gibbs or James Cook? If it's just one game?

Uh-huh. Well, who are they playing? I still believe in Gibbs. No, I mean rest of season. Rest of season, would you rather have Gibbs or James Cook? Gibbs. I'd rather in Gibbs. No, I mean rest of season. Rest of season, would you rather have Gibbs or James Cook? Gibbs. I'd rather have Gibbs. I'll take Cook. All right, let's go to Seattle 37 and Detroit 31.

I'm not sure there's anything we haven't covered here. No, we just talked about the Lions running backs, Josh Reynolds, Gino. Golf, we didn't really get to Goff, Jamie. 28.9 fantasy points. Big day for him. It was in first interception in 369 pass attempts, which was... Did he break the record or did he fall short?

No, he fell short. So I don't think he had a chance to break the record, though, today. So, yeah, I mean, look, he's doing very well at home. That's the case. Whenever he's been at home, last season, over 26 fantasy points per game. This season, got off to a good start. So, you know, next week,

you're starting him at home. I have a Saquon Barkley update. The Giants believe Saquon Barkley suffered an ankle sprain and it could have been much worse, according to Schultz's report. So, you know, probably don't expect him this week, Thursday night. All right, let's see. All right, we're good with that game.

San Francisco 30, Rams 23. I think we are now on to the— Sam Laporta, though. I don't know if you guys talked about him. Another solid performance. Two straight games with five catches for sam laporta yep all right san francisco 30 and the rams 23 and i have a great dave story for this game oh really believe it go so we're watching the game and the rams matthew stafford throws a pick and they're up by

10 and dave fist pumps because he thinks he has the cover for our picks. And then lo and behold... With four seconds left in the game. Down 10. Down 10. John McVay. John McVay.

He knew exactly what he was doing. Helping those bettors out. Gets the cover. Brett Maher with the field goal. What was the spread? Eight. Eight. How'd you guys do this week?

Dave had a very – I don't think he realized I saw him. Dave had a very subtle fist bump when they went up by 10. Oh, no. I didn't make my picks in my pick-em. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Okay. How do you forget to-em. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Okay.

How do you forget to do that? No, I did. It said incomplete, but that's only because there are still two games left. I have seven correct so far. Out of how many? Thirteen? That's okay.

That's not bad. All right. What's our believe it or not for 49ers Rams? Kyron Williams is a must-start running back. Believe it. I believe it. 20 touches? Yeah.

Not against San Francisco. Should we believe it or not, Matt Breida is going to own this run defense in week three. I do not believe that. No. Daniel Jones might, though. He might run for 100 yards. Run for more than he throws.

All right. Debo or Iuke, rest of season. Debo. Debo. I guess I'll say Debo, too. Do you think we should be streaming tight ends over George Kittle? Not dropping Kittle, but sitting him. Not yet. You could carry a second tight end with Kittle. I'll say the same thing I said about Pitts.

If you want to go with Ferguson, if you want to go with Laporta, you want to go with... Are you running away from Musgrave? He got off to a decent start and then kind of did the vanishing act I would be more concerned about Musgrave the fact that Jaden Reed had this game and then Christian Watson's coming back so now you have both of your receivers

no I get that alright so so sorry Kyron Williams looking like a must start right now would you are you going to pick up Tutu Atwell? He's 48% rostered, and he has had 13 catches in two games.

Absolutely. Would you drop Quinton Johnston for Tutu Atwell? No. Okay. Yeah, I would. And redraft you. If you need a starter, you you move for out well but if you've decided to use that roster spot for somebody for the rest of the season

i'd rather have quentin johnston here's the one factor about the rams that everybody needs to keep in mind matthew stafford's how old 35 that offensive line isn't that great. If he goes down, all of these players are going down with him. Kyron Williams is going down. I think the biggest thing you got to keep in mind is Kupap. Kupap is going down. Not so much Matthew Stafford. Kupap comes back. But Kupap goes down too.

If Stafford gets hurt, this whole thing blows up. Okay, but how many teams will you say that about their quarterback though? We can say that about a lot, but not all of them have 35 year old quarterbacks playing behind average offensive lines. So it's fun to get excited about Nakua and Kyron Williams. It's, it's fun to go ahead and get to, to out. Well, uh, I'm heading for the Hills on Higby. I'm, I'm done. Um, but if Stafford gets hurt, I think it's a legit problem for any of these guys. It's kind of like my rationale. If I can sell high on Nakua, if I can sell high on Kyron Williams, I would do it, but

it's, it's high again. I'm not sure. So where are you on the Bengals guys then with Burrow with his calf injury or the dolphin? We don't know how serious the Burrow calf injury is, but if he's fine and ends up playing, I'm fine with Burrow. I would love to get Chase on the cheap. I don't think I can. I think I can get Mixon on the cheap to a degree.

I think any receiving core is going to be in Poopsville if their starting quarterback goes down. Sure, but you understand what I'm saying about why Stafford is a little bit more vulnerable. Right, he's saying Stafford's more vulnerable to that. I understand. I feel like maybe we are underplaying this Bengals situation, though,

and we probably should talk about it later in the week, but it is a little scary right now that Joe Burrow isn't 100% and just re-aggravated a calf injury, so let's take some time to digest it. I'll bring it up later in the week, and we can talk about it on Wednesday, I think. Because obviously we got to get to

what I think was the biggest comeback in Giants history. I might be wrong about that. Since 1950. Okay, there you go. Thank you. Giants fan over there. Giants 31, Arizona 28. It was an epic comeback over a worthy opponent.

The Giants proved they are not the worst team in the NFL. And that's important. Believe it or not, you should sit all Giants, including Darren Waller, this week against the 49ers. You can't sit I don't believe it. No. Not Waller. I think you had everyone until

the Waller thing. Everyone, so you're sitting Daniel Jones, but not Darren Waller. Yeah. I think you can get away from jones yeah uh jones ends up with 34.7 fantasy points great wild game i am interested to see if they'll try to get jalen hyatt more involved um but he only had two targets on the other side james connor was awesome in this game. So how do we feel about him going forward? Just kind of stardom? Yeah. 15 running back as long as he's healthy.

4.4 yards per carry last week, 4.6 yards per carry today. Yeah, he doesn't look bad. He's got some juice right now. I don't know how long it'll last. Yeah. By November, it might be a problem, but it's good right now. But this Cardinals team is hung around now two straight games. Yeah, against two bad teams. Yeah, but this's good right now. But this Cardinals team is hung around now, two straight games. Yeah, against two bad teams.

Yeah, but this is what you want. Keep it exciting. Fun, cheer for a little bit. Then you lose and you still get that traffic. I almost congratulated them after blowing that game. I don't know how they blew it, but it was the best thing that could happen to their organization. Schaefer is killing it with the lower thirds today.

It was Falcons send the Green Bay packing earlier. Schneier, Azar, rally Giants to beat. Dan was so happy. Like he was kind of crying a little bit in the first quarter and then he was just so happy. I do think the Giants are going to be one of the best matchups in fantasy. They are the Bears right now defensively. Do you want to say anything about Marquise Brown?

He had six catches, 54 yards and a touchdown. Last week he was dreadful with 28 yards, although he did have 28 rushing as well. But Marquise Brown, 31% started this week and next week they have Dallas. Who do they play after Dallas? Maybe that matchup is better.

Oh, it's San Francisco. Oh, okay. I will say though, you want to talk about streaming tight ends. It's back-to-back six catch weeks for Zach Ertz. Oh, and by the way, in the first game, Dobbs overthrew him in the end zone. Should have had a touchdown. In this game, he overthrew. He got him laid out on a deep ball.

Could have had a 50-yard catch. This is to Ertz? Yes. Yeah. Very surprised that Josh Dobbs is on top. I know. I know. You were going to say that.

Well said. Dallas 30, Jets 10. What do we got, Heath? Oof. Believe it or not, you lucked out one week with Garrett Wilson. Don't start him again as long as Al Wilson's a quarterback. I believe in the Tennessee Relays.

It's funny, though, because he had an 83. You mean this week you lucked out. You lucked out this week. Don't risk it again. I see. There are two things the Jets should do this week. Number one, get Brees Hall ready for a big workload because that's somebody who could help them win.

And number two, turn over every rock on the planet to find a quarterback better than Zach Wilson. I just don't know if they want to risk Brees Hall. We knew coming into this year that we should expect a limited workload early in the year. Would you like to know his snap share? No, I don't want to throw up right now. He had four guys.

Yeah, you don't want to know. They had the ball for 17 minutes and 45 seconds. Who would you rather have rest of the season, Garrett Wilson or Brees Hall? Wilson. Wilson. Wilson. Because it's not going to be Zach Wilson for much longer. James Cook or Brees Hall?

Cook. Cook, but I was drafting it that way. I know, but then Brees Hall had such an encouraging week one that maybe things may have changed. So did James Cook though.

I know. Brees Hall just looked, had bigger plays. It's cool, man. I'm just asking. CeeDee Lamb is awesome, and he's the only player on there. And Ferguson, I mean, Dak throws his tight ends in the end zone. It's just a lot.

Ferguson caught one today, and didn't that— They had a stupid end around to Peyton Henderson. Yeah, I know. Didn't another tight end catch a touchdown today? Who else caught one? Or is that it? Schoonmaker caughtton Henderson. Yeah, I know. Didn't another tight end catch a touchdown today? Who else caught one? Or is that it? Schoonmaker caught a touchdown. He did.

Okay. Schoonmaker, Schoonmaker, I'm not sure. I think it's Schoon, but I'm not sure. Jaguars. Jaguars. 35. That was very funny, by the way. Washington, 35.

Denver, 27. Heath, last game. No, Denver scored 33. I did the notes before the Hail Mary. My bad, but I did update the stats. I didn't update the score. Washington, 35. Denver scored 33. I did the notes before the Hail Mary. My bad. But I did update the stats. I didn't update the score. Washington 35, Denver 33.

Heath. Believe it or not, the Broncos are not going to have a top 25 wide receiver. Don't believe it? Yeah, I don't believe it. Who do you think it will be? I think Judy. I don't want to write him off after one game coming off of an injury against a really good defense.

Yeah, Heath, you pointed out on the show this morning that Judy has a bad history in his first game back from injury. He had a quiet game. We talked about the Broncos running backs. Nobody's adding Marvin Mims, are they? Two catches, 113 yards, and a touchdown, but those were only two targets. I dropped him in two leagues today,

and I was like, oh, God. I think as those other guys get better, as Judy gets better, then Mims will have games like this, but then a lot of disappearing acts. But it was fun to watch. All right, Brian Robinson is absolutely dominating carries and touches for this team.

He's fantastic. 55-45 on snap share. Gibson played more on third and fourth downs and inside the 10. Wow. Javante or Brian Robinson, rest of season? Javante. Brian Robinson. I'll say Javante.

Dave, I think we should really do like inside. Can you do inside the three or inside the five instead of the 10? No, I'm serious because I think, you know, you don't score a lot from the eight yard line. And I think sometimes I do see this with teams. I mean, they have a goal line back three yards and closer back kind of. And I wonder because Robinson had two touchdowns. And I wonder if he was really used very close to the goal line more than Gibson.

I don't mean just for this game, but I'm just wondering if you think maybe it's more valuable to do inside the five than the 10. I really want to hear what Sean Payton said about Russell Wilson in this game. Why? Because that fumble turned the game.

Yeah. Did you see it? I think I saw it. Yeah, I saw it. So one of the reasons why I do inside the 10 instead of inside the three is Washington had one snap inside the three. Yeah.

And so Robinson had it. 100% of the snaps inside the three. What color zone would that be, Adam? Because we got the green zone, the reds is the. Oh, inside the three? Yeah. Oh. Like the hot pink zone?

That would be. I tried the magenta zone and nobody liked it. They hated me for it. So I'm done. That wasn't why we hated you. Well, why would you hate me? Just for any reason? Myriad? All right. Well well that's it for today's show

tomorrow we have beyond the box score we'll recap Miami and New England and we will yeah get you into the advanced stats and the snap shares and all these things and every time I think I'm doing some intricate research on something advanced Jacob Gibbs is like

10 steps ahead of me. So you need to hear what he has to say. Dan will break down some film and we'll get your five big topics for Monday show. So appreciate that. And then Monday night, we have a live stream at 7 30 PM Eastern. So we'll see you then for Heath and Dave and Jamie and Thomas.

I am Adam. I hope you had a great week too. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Fantasy football.