Fantasy Football Today - Week 2 Winners & Losers: Biggest Takeaways From Every Game! + Caleb Williams Injury Reaction (09/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 21, 2026

We break down the biggest winners and losers from Sunday’s action, starting with Jaylen Waddle as a major winner and Colston Loveland as a loser (4:30). We follow this with a discussion about Caleb Williams’ injury (6:35) and what it means for the Bears moving forward, then look ahead at early waiver wire targets (21:00). We highlight the weekend's winners, including TreVeyon Henderson and Bryce Young (22:45), Aaron Jones and Dalton Schultz (24:10), George Kittle and Tre Tucker (26:30), before discussing the biggest losers: David Montgomery and Drake Maye (29:40), Marvin Harrison Jr. (32:30), and Travis Etienne and Colston Loveland (35:30). Then we discuss goal-line work (43:55) and go game by game, covering Bengals-Texans (47:00), Bears-Vikings (49:00), Browns-Buccaneers (51:30), Panthers-Falcons (55:10), Eagles-Titans (58:02), Patriots-Steelers (1:04:19), Ravens-Saints (1:07:00), Jets-Packers (1:09:00), Raiders-Chargers (1:09:00), Jaguars-Broncos (1:12:40), Seahawks-Cardinals (1:16:00), 49ers-Dolphins (1:17:55) and Cowboys-Commanders (1:19:50).

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Okay, week two, Sunday is basically, and the books are waiting for Sunday night football to start. We welcome me here to fantasy football today. Adam Azar, Heath Cummings, Jamie Eisenberg. And Dave Richard, how many, I got two trivia questions for you. How many players outscored Jackson Smith and Jigba in PPR this week? Nothing. You had three. Zero.

Oh, three, name them, Heath. Josh Allen. Yeah. You can stop there. It's just Josh Allen. Oh, okay. I didn't know we were counting quarterback. Oh, we are.

I said players. They're players too, Dave. Come on, bro. Here's another trivia question. What do Deshawn Watson, C.J. Stroud, Jaden Daniels, and Brock Purdy have in common. They all did something today. Deshawn Watson, C.J. Stroud, Jaden Daniels, and Brock Purdy. They all led their team in rushing. Rushing.

They all led their team in rushing. I looked at one point in Brock Purdy was averaging 10 yards per rush attempt, and he was more efficient per pass attempt. Oh, my goodness. He was amazing today. another great day for Brock Purdy. All right, listen, big injuries today. Caleb Williams hamstring, maybe won't be as bad as we feared.

I guess he was walking with a slight limp after the game. Jaden Daniels, Tom Brady wasn't happy with it. Arm injury, probably an elbow. I don't know if officially they said that. What did he say, Jamie? No, he didn't say anything. Oh, dude, stop, stop, stop. Edit it out, Thomas.

All right. That's rude. Yeah, let's stop doing this from now on. Yeah, it's, it's rude. If they could say it on national TV, we can say it here. Yeah, we can. You're making more work for Thomas, Jamie. All right, stop.

Anyway, we'll talk about those injuries and what they mean for everyone in fantasy, and hopefully we'll get good news. You know, honestly, just fingers crossed. I thought Jane Daniels was going to be out for the year last year, and he wasn't, so you never know. Dave, who's the biggest winner today? There are some big time candidates, but I'm going to go with a guy that had one catch for two yards last week,

and everybody was running to the exits on the Denver Broncos, passing offense and Jalen Waddle. Eight catches, 138 yards, big time game, double digits and targets. Did what we expected him to do. Just a monster game, over 20 PPR points. No more questions about whether or not you should start or sit him. He was started in 57% of CBS leagues. That number is going to go up to 90% in week three.

Week three against the Rams. And he also was a yard short of a touchdown. And then J.K. Dobbins got three straight chances and couldn't get in from the one yard line. Heath, who is the biggest loser today? I can't hear it. I can't hear it. Oh, that's so bad. I'm sorry. I ruined it. It was fantastic before the show. It was great to be a mic check. Yes, no, though jokes aside, I think it has to be Colston Loveland. Like, I woke up on Monday morning last year, last week with so much shame for my little mini freakout over Colston Loveland after week one. And I had tweets about it.

And I thought, you know, you guys are right. I'm just going to rank him as tight end two again. And he was tied into on his own team again. Yeah, even though obviously it was a bad weather game and Caleb threw for 138 yards. They were facing the Vikings and all that. He still only had three targets. And now he's got to deal with a quarterback injury. By the way, Heath was playing the San Diego Supercharger song as the biggest.

You couldn't hear it at all, and you could hear it perfectly before. It's so annoying. I'm sorry. It was a bad job. It was a bad job. It was a bit. I've never seen Heath dance before. Well, let's talk about the Bears, I guess, with the injury guys.

And, you know, you can throw a burden on there too. And it's just like Khalif Raymond's still doing his thing and being involved. He had five targets. Burden had seven. Tyson, Bayesian gave me a little bit of, uh, hope for Luther Burton. Yeah. Tyson Bayesian, though, obviously is a while.

It was 2023, his rookie season, he was horrible in four starts. DJ Moore had the best year of his career. And then in four games with Tyson Bayesian, he had right around 50 yards and no touchdowns at every game. But that was different coordinator, different player.

But yeah, I mean, in general, with all of the bears, Jamie, how concerned are you right now? Highly concerned. You know, I think the run game, you're still going to start D'Andre Swift and Monangai was. they'll be in the flex conversation, but it's easier to get away from Burden and Odunzee that

is to get away from Loveland because now you have to either carry two tight ends or make the decision to drop Colston Loveland because you can't start him at this point. You know, it's not just, oh boy, here's now Tyson-Bajun. It's now two games of Khalif Raymond and the offense not running through Colston Loveland like we thought and certainly what we saw at the end of the last season. And, you know, like it was just bad across the board to see the last play of the game for the Bears where he's trying to blow. blocked Dallas Turner and just got completely destroyed.

Like, he's not a blocker. Let's just stop trying to force him into situations that are not going to be successful for him. So I think you just have to go with the idea of carry two tight ends, see how it looks for one more week. If you go through next week and let's just say you're picking up Darren Waller, I'm trying to think of the tight ends that are going to be in the way where Darren Waller or maybe. Well, Schultz, you know, Schultz is 60% roster, Jamie. or whoever the case may be, Hunter Henry, you know, there's going to be a handful of guys that we talk about. If that's your pivot play and then you come out of that game with that player

playing at a high level, again, I don't think we're ready to cut Colston-levelin, but there's this less like purgatory of players or players stuck in purgatory that we get stuck with that you know when they're dropped, they'll be picked up. You'll be happy that somebody else probably picks them up. Like Marvin Harrison's now in this range of player. And Loveland may be in this range of player of guys. And Brian Thomas, you know,

same thing with him last year and maybe the same thing now, where you're just dropping these guys or wanting to drop these guys. And their names are still good. Their games are not. Well, okay. I mean, we're really talking about being even close to dropping Colston Loveland. Because I get it with Marvin Harrison, Jr.,

but he was drafted. He was picked like four rounds, three or four rounds after Colson Lovell. Again, I'm not saying you're dropping Colson Llevin now. If this continues for another week or two, when we start getting a buy weeks and you have roster crunch scenarios, like that's where you may have to go. Okay. Oh, I think, yeah, if we have a third week of single digit receiving yards, you can't blame anybody for dropping him. We don't hold anybody else that has three straight weeks with no production at all and no, positive sign. I guess he ran a lot of routes. He ran a lot of routes. He

almost had a touchdown. The same thing as last week. Remember the almost touchdown he had on a post route toward the end of the game? Same thing. Second the last play of the game, Bejant threw low. Listen, his stat line would have been two catches, a touchdown, like five yards. It's still not great. I think one of the things you have to hope for is that the Bears coaching staff sits down and says, all right, what can we do differently? Especially now that we don't have Caleb Williams as our quarterback. And the first thing they say is let's draw some stuff up for Colson Loveland, who's this mismatch at tight end.

I think that's almost what you have to hope for. But that's part of the problem now. I think that's the route they go, Dave. I think the route they go is DeAndre Swift and Monongai and be as conservative as you possibly can because their defense stinks. They don't want to be in shootouts with teams. Like you have Tyler Bejan in that game last week. They lose against the Panthers.

They're not scoring 59 points with him. True. And they couldn't do anything. against a good defense today. So I don't think the idea is let's draw up plays to make it pass friendly. I think it's draw up plays to let's try and win any way we possibly can. And when you're dissecting it, yes, Colston Lovell is still a great player, but their best way to win is through D'Andre Swift and Kamenaga.

That's what they always do, though. Right. We know that going in, but Ben Johnson run heavy guy, but he runs so many plays that they're going to, you know, typically you would expect them to be like 10th or 12th in pass attempts, but, but, you know, sort of atop the league in rush attempts, they're always going to be a run first team, probably with him. This is just, yeah, it's crazy stuff. It is, it is strange, though, because like Dave put out the video last week, and I think it was probably true again this week. Like, Colston, it's, it's not like Colston Loveland's not open. And as soon as Bejant came in,

it was three straight throws to burden. And he was either open or making good plays in tight spaces. Like, I don't understand, I don't understand how Ben Johnson talks so positively about these guys. And then it's just as if they aren't even part of Caleb's game plan. Right. Well, let's also factor in. You know, Adam, you were very much banging the drum for this this morning about the weather. And so the weather was a factor.

And Minnesota's defense is still really good. I know they looked bad last week against Green Bay and Jordan Love. It's still a really good Brian Flores led. defense that is going to create havoc on most teams and cause problems for most teams. And so whether good defense disjointed offense before Caleb got hurt, like there's just a lot of things that play here that I think you'd say, okay, this, this, this, and this is working, was working against the Bears. So I hope that we get a better performance.

I just didn't even say better performance. I think we'll all be okay and maybe it's just me. But if there's target opportunities for Colson Loveland, and, you know, even if he stinks, It's, oh, yeah, he had seven targets, but he finished three for four, you know, three for 28 or something like that. Right. You'll still be okay. They're trying. And we can bank on them trying.

You can bank on them trying, but if it's going to be a bunch of three for 48s or whatever you said, it's going to be somebody that. No, but I think we need Caleb back. You're not spite dropping him at that point. No, but you can't feel great about any of these guys if Baygent is the quarterback. And that goes to your point. Right. But I just think they're going to have to throw at some point. their defense isn't any good, just like you said.

They can't lean on the run and expect to win a bunch of games going away that way. They're going to have to put the ball in the air. The easiest thing in the world for them to do is do half of what they could do. They already did. And that's have Bejant look for burden. The other half is getting Loveland involved and just drop some easy stuff for him. I don't know if we're going to see any of those huge games from him like we saw at the end of last year. I think that ship has sailed.

But if we can get him to five for 60, that's not so bad. That ship has not sailed. The ship of Colton-Luffman. If Caleb Williams is done for the year, that ship is way out into the lake like that pirate ship in the Goonies. But you didn't say that. I didn't think you said that. It is gone. If he's out for the year, then yes, the ship is probably-sale.

If he's gone for two or three weeks, then of course it's still possible. Okay. All right. So we'll keep an eye on the bear's situation. He's not the only loser. I mean, Luther Burden struggling. They're all struggling except for Swift, really. And he fumbled at the goal line.

Huge play there. Heath, what's coming up on FFT Dynasty? You know, I think we talk about this on Sunday night. We spend the week kind of trying to figure it out for next week. And the dynasty discussion around Colston Loveland is all off. It's obviously not, are you dropping him? Everybody in Dynasty should hold him all year long. But like, how do we react and move to these moves?

So that's what we'll be talking about on Tuesday. And yeah, I just saw a question in the chat. Not super relevant for the listening audience. but Dave, one person want to know what to do with Pooka Nakua. Are you expecting him to play at this point?

I don't think, if he does play, I don't think he'll be particularly... Because that's the game of the week. No. The only choice left out of the board. No, no. That was your best one yet.

Default game of the week. Hey! Well, that. You know who gave me this idea? Shout out, Pat from Ohio tweeted me and said, you got to get Dave tonight with Game of the Week. All right.

That's it. I'm done talking to you, Pat. Okay, news and notes. All right, so Jane Daniels left with the arm injury. What's a bigger deal for you guys in terms of the weapons, you know, McLaurin digs, et cetera, versus the Bears guys. Is it the Daniels injury or the Caleb one?

Caleb by a mile. Yeah. Yeah, I think Mario would be okay for the past catchers. But even so, like McLaurin has kind of drifted into this maybe start range and digs is in a maybe start range like we were expecting burden and lovelin to be must start guys right and now if you're in a super flex league mariotta is one to go get um he scored more than 20 fantasy points and four of his seven starts for he played seven games where he played all or almost all of the snaps and scored over 20 fantasy points in four

of those games wasn't amazing but if you need a quarterback mariotta is just in time for him to play Seattle in week three. That's a good point. That's a good point. After that, it's pretty good. But yeah. Caleb Williams hamstring and Cooper Rush got benched for Jack Strand, whose first pass was a pick six. We had a lot of fumbles, a lot of fumbles. I think Pennix is going to start Thursday. I think so, too. Okay. Let's hope that would be, who are they playing? They are playing Green Bay. Okay. Oh, those Packers. What a great team. Anyway, a lot of fumbles. We had Ramandre Stevens in fumbling. Caleb Johnson fumbled. You know, I don't like it when coaches always penalized players for fumbles when the other team recovers it.

But Caleb Johnson fumbled and Marchion Lloyd fumbled. But the difference was Lloyd's fumbled was a loss fumble. And he got benched afterwards. You've got to be elite like Justin Herbert and fumble three times and have your team recover it all three times. Also, Tucker Kraft fumbled right after Caleb Johnson fumbled. DeAndre Swift fumbled at the goal line. Judarian Price fumbled and he also heard his chest. X-rays were negative on Judarian Price.

Emmanuel Wilson had, what do you have? 17 carry, 21 carries or something like that? He had a lot of them. He had, yeah, he had a bunch and... 21 for 92. 21 and 14 of his carries came after Judarian Price's last carry. So if you're looking at that box score going, what happened there? That's what happened.

Other running back news, Jonathan Brooks re-agravated his... Oh, Omarian Hampton fumbled for the second time. So we've got to think about Keaton Mitchell here because he fumbled in two straight games. coaches hate that. John and the Brooks re-agravated his groin injury. Chuba Hubbard is a must start until further notice. J.K. Dobbins has a hamstring injury.

Jonah Coleman did all right. I think it was 10 carries for 39 yards and a touchdown. Three catches for 19 yards too. Yeah, RJ Harvey was out as well. Rico Dowdell left with a toe injury, came back and left again. Ashton Genty had two or three drops. I think we said three drops in this game. He also limped off in the fourth quarter, but he came back.

Aaron Jones left. in the second half, but he came back. Sequin Barclay, this one I lost track of. I know he missed basically all of the first half. He came back, but he had no touches. Did he not play that much in the second half? He played 10 snaps in the entire game. Played mostly in the third quarter,

and I think he had one snap in the fourth quarter. All right, it's a dislocated elbow for Jaden Daniels, no fracture, according to Tom Pelliserro. I'm not going to sit here and act like I know what the timeline is. Also a report that says, slight hamstring issue for J.K. Dobbins. There is optimism he'll be on the field next week against the Rams. Wide receivers.

There's also optimism for Mike Evans. He left with a hip injury. They're kind of downplaying it, but we'll see. DeMarcus Robinson has an ankle injury. Could be a high ankle sprained for 49ers receiver, DeMarcus Robinson. Yeah, they don't have any injuries. Jaden Reed left in the first quarter with potentially serious injury.

Dallas Goddard left with a knee injury. Patriots tight end Eli Raritan got. hurt and David Najoku was carded off and we did get a touchdown on only two targets for A Ronde Gadsden. I believe Charlie Kohler got hurt too. He did. Oh, he did. Oh, wow.

Okay. Thank you. Baltimore left tackle. Ronnie Stanley left. He played most of the game, 44 snaps, but he came into the game injured. He was questionable. He played. Ronnie Stanley left with an injury. Patriots right tackle.

Mike N. And Owen Wu, sorry, was carted off in the first half. It looks like a season ender for their right tackle. That's a tough break for them. The Packers offensive. line is super beat up. They lost two guys today. And both Washington, I mean, the Daniels injury is bad. Of course, it's the worst, but both tackles got hurt for Washington. I think one of them's going to end up being a concussion.

That's Cosme. Yeah, Cosmy. I didn't see what happened to Coleman, but both tackles got hurt there. And I'll go over the defensive stuff later in the week or something like that. Cosmy's a guard. Oh, is he? I'm sorry. Really? I thought they were saying tackle. I thought he was a guard. Not early is their tackle. Right. My fault. But he might be like their best remaining offensive linemen. Yeah, that's my bad. All right.

I'm going to take a break. Early waiver wire. Winners and losers when we come back on a very banged up, injured ho-hum day in fantasy football. We'll be right back. My companion for this summer season has been Z-biotics. Let me tell you why. Just headed out to a concert at Pier 17. Howlmouth?

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54% rostered. He's been amazing so far through the first two games of the season. It gets Cleveland next week. And so I think the Browns played much better this week than they did last week. But Rice Young right now looks awesome. And I think, you know, if you're the Drake May manager, the Justin Herbert manager, obviously Jay and Daniel's manager, Caleb Williams manager, Bryce Young could get you through whatever this period of time is

and maybe be somebody you can lean on for the entire season, something I never thought I would say when the year started. You still have a couple of guys that we talked about last week. You know, Jacoby Resett, I think he'll still be okay as a low-end starting option. Malik Willis got, you know, okay numbers for what the game was, but, you know, got lucky with the late touchdown. And then, you know, Dave alluded to this Marcus Marriota, or you did Adam, Marcus Mariotta, you know, has an opportunity here,

depending on how long he's out to be a potential viable starter for you. Jonah Coleman would be the biggest name at running back and maybe the biggest name across the board if we don't have J.K. Dobbins or R.J. Harvey, and this could be the guy who's the starting running back for the Broncos for, who knows. You know, I mean, we know that Sean Payton was excited about him at the start of, during, during camp, and didn't do much in week one, but got his opportunity in week two. is 50. 49% roster.

So, you know, easy, easy pivot play there. You got to look at Emmanuel Wilson now with the work that he got and not knowing what these status is for DeDenarian Price. So I think those are obvious running back ones. We'll talk more about the other guys, I think, as we get into the week. And then a wide receiver, you know, we talked about this this morning, Rashad Bateman, after we found out that Lab McCock was going to play, I said Bateman was my favorite replacement receiver and he certainly held up his end of the bargain with his performance against the Saints.

So hopefully Zay Flowers back. Where are we out with the bet because Devante had a big game? So the playing field is not leveled. I'm guessing total points is Devante at this point. Devante is now up 10 points in total points and behind by eight points and points per game. Eight point? Wow. Geez.

Yeah. You needed Zay to play and then get hurt not to sit up here. Also, Dalton Schultz, for sure, it tied in. Yeah, I was going to get to the other position. Schultz, I think, Hunter Henry, you know, both those guys are going to be involved in their respective offenses. We got the answer for the Patriots. You know, it's Romeo Dobbs. And, you know, DeMario Douglas was a non-factor.

Mac Hollins was a non-factor. I think it was good, you know, for people that invested in Romeo Dobbs and held on to him to see some level of a decent performance here. So that's one I think you look at. Trey Tucker, you know, huge game for him. Um, we, we, we, we got it last week. We didn't, we got it this week for sure. And I don't, I don't, I don't think there's any reason to go away from him as, uh, you know, potential, a borderline starter in three receiver.

Okay. Uh, get, how about the number one rookie wide receiver and a current top 12 wide receiver? Denzel. Denzel Boston. Mm-hmm. Yeah. How about that? Okay.

That offense came alive today in the second half. It was quite impressive. Yeah, Deshaun played ball. Let's get into the pulse pound. running performances brought to you by Whoop, the wearable device that gives you personalized insights into your sleep recovery, your strain, and how daily choices may be influencing your overall well-being. Heath and Jamie, they got their whoops on right now, and always. And if you want to learn more ahead to join.wop, W-H-O-O-P, join.wop.com slash F-F-T. All right, here we go.

Heath, your winners are Travion Henderson and the aforementioned Bryce Young. Travion started in only 30% of leagues, understandably. He had a 39-yard touchdown run. He had, I think, 10 more carries than Ramandre Stevenson. What do you make of it? Well, listen, I don't think you want to make too much of it, but I think Trayvion moves right back into that high-end flex, borderline RB2 range, where we had him for a large part of last year, where you know, on any given play, he can score enough fantasy points to make it a good day. It was a little disappointing that he didn't do anything in the passing game, but Stevenson fumbled, Henderson got the next drive, Henderson housed one.

And then Henderson was just kind of the guy for not all of the rest of the game and certainly not when they wanted somebody in there to pass protect. It doesn't seem like they trust him in that regard. But 57% rush share, 60% snap share. That's a good day. And now we know that's at least possible. And I think Stevenson's looked pretty sluggish as a runner early on this year. So we might be saying right now he's a border.

line RB2 and we might be saying next week it looks like Trevion Henderson is just an RB2 so very exciting and I think Bryce Young another guy you don't want to make too much about it but like Jamie said he's a must add currently the QB2 we like two of his past catchers Darren Waller is adequate in a part-time role and he's been on fire so go add Bryce Young Dave your winners are Dalton Schultz 60% rostered and Bryce Young, 53% rostered. So these are not just winners. These are Waverwire guys.

And Aaron Jones, who has started in 57% of leagues, he's pretty much universally rostered. Jones looked great all game long. Just a bunch of four plus yard runs against Chicago. And, you know, if Minnesota had lost this game, I probably would have said they needed to use them even more. But he got a ton of run. He looked good. He's turned back the clock. When he got hurt, I thought to myself, oh, man, like terrible timing.

But he came back and finished the game. Hopefully he's fine. The Vikings absolutely need him. and fantasy managers do too. He's an RB2 moving forward, and that's where we had him ranked. Through two weeks, Dalton Schultz has 22 targets,

16 catches, and 175 yards. He has one awesome game for non-PPR, two awesome games for half and full people. Well, I don't know about awesome. Week one wasn't great, but he had eight targets with it. Clearly a guy that C.J. Stroud is going to lean on,

especially when they're chasing points, by all means, you can feel good about starting Dalton Schultz. You think when Nico Collins comes back. Even then. Yeah. Okay.

You know, I think, I think part of the problem is that I don't know, man. Like, is this defense for Houston playing to the expectation that we thought it would be? I thought. Well, I mean, the answer is no, but they also played Josh Allen and Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow. And Burrow had an okay game. I mean, Josh Allen went to town, but Joe Burrow was just okay in this game. The two touchdowns said Jamar Chase were awesome.

Jamar was awesome. But it makes me wonder, like, if this defense isn't shutting. people down, it's going to force Stroud to have heavy pass volume. And when that happens, you're going to get a lot of targets for Schultz. I think the bigger question for me might be, can they run the ball even a little bit? Because David Montgomery scored the touchdowns in week one, but he was terribly inefficient running the football. And then it was even worse this week. I just don't think they have a run game. I think we have a good defense also for the Bengals. Their run defense is going to be, I think, tough. Adam, did they snap the streak, the Bengals?

They sure did. The 26 games in a row where the Texans had not allowed multiple receivers to score 12 or more PPR fantasy points, and that streak is... I wasn't sure if it was two guys in the top 24 is what your stat was. So, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, very cool. And I got to be honest with you. I was a little nervous about it starting Higgins. But he came through with a really good game.

Jamie, your winners are George Kittle, who had four catches for 80 yards in a touchdown on four targets. And Trey Tucker, who had five for 119 in a touchdown on 3. seven targets. Does it bother you at all? I think this information could change. But as of right now, I've got George Kittle at 53% of the routes. Does that bother you? He's working his way back. And so the fact that, A, he's played in the first two games is the most encouraging thing. B, that he had this game for the people that started him and were rewarded. And then C, we had a Mike Evans injury. So, you know, that just, I think, just increases the chances of him continuing to be a go-to guy for Brock Purdy. Purdy looks awesome. The 49er schedule.

great. I think as long as Kittle's healthy, you look at some of the tight end production that we got. We started the entire show talking about how bad Kohlston-Lublin is. If you, by chance, were able to draft George Kittle with Kohlston Loveland, you're thrilled right now because you have a great fallback option. So the people that

got Kittle late and later as the process sort of went through its ebbs and flows of he's back, okay, maybe he's going to be slow to start the season, all that information that we were given at different times, you're getting rewarded right now by a guy that you know, we know the upside is. So it's great to just see him back on the field, and I think

things are trending in the right direction for him. So yes, you'd like to see him have more of everything, but this was a game where I thought they may not need him very much because how bad the dolphins are and that you get the touchdown. It was a great route, great play design. It just shows you, you know, how good George Kittle can still be and probably going to get to another level. In the case of Trey Tucker, this is what we were hoping for. We were hoping to see him get targets, get opportunities. He just, you know, from the jump, it was a lot of Trey Tucker. Now, The caveat to this is it sounds like Brock Bauer is going to play next week. Did a lot in pregame warmups, came back to practice on Friday.

So my guess is that if he's good to go, he's back out there. That lowers the ceiling a little bit for Tucker. But, you know, as we sort of said, once it was a little clear that Jalen Naylor was not going to be the guy and that Trey Tucker might be the guy, you could have a borderline wide receiver three, certainly somebody to put on the end of your bench. And if this happens again at any point, you know, then you start to put it them in the starting conversation. So just good to see Trey Tucker after I think some people probably dropped him because I know

they did based on his roster percentage. It was like in the low 70s and then it dropped down to the low 50s. Go back and pick them up again. All right. Trey Tucker, 51% rostered. Only 3% started. And thank you to Woop for sponsoring this week's pulse pounding performances. With Woop, you can better understand how your body is responding to the travel, the training,

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head to this website and whoop is spelled W-H-O-O-P, join.wop.com slash FFT. Now on to the losers. We've got David Montgomery. He had six carries for 10 yards and two catches for 14 yards.

And I think he was started in almost every league. David Montgomery, let's see. He was 92% started. So he's a loser for Jamie, and so is Drake May. And we got to talk about Drake May, who had a terrible game, eight fantasy points against the Steelers. So May, I was nervous about this was not what you wanted to see. You know, he had a bad interception. I thought he would run a little bit more. It looked like that was going to be part of the game plan early in the game. Didn't really have to do that very much. The defense played great. Like, I think if you recall how when we were breaking down this game, I thought it would be a low-scoring game just because of how these two offenses were,

likely going to operate. So Bryce Young is an easy replacement until AJ Brown gets back if you want to go that route. I'm probably going to bench him in tough matchups. And I don't think that Drake May is matchup proof right now. I know last year he did not have A.J. Brown, he also does not have Stefan Diggs, who was clearly a big piece of this offense. So he'll have better performances than this. The Steelers defense just is, you know, still a formidable opponent. But I'm just not very confident in Drake May right now, knowing that he's just a little bit off and coming. This is now going into the game, he was averaging 17 PPR, 17 fantasy points per game in his last six. Again, that's the playoffs and the Super Bowl, two games against Seattle in that stretch.

So it's just some really good defenses. I think Seattle, excuse me, Pittsburgh, you know, qualifies. But I just don't, I just don't think it's automatic starting Drake May anymore right now. And from Montgomery, he sort of hit on this earlier. You got lucky last week with the touchdowns. The thing that I was encouraged about last week was the three catches. And so hopefully he still remains involved in the passing game. Five catches in two weeks is about what you would expect for David Montgomery,

if you're talking about him being more involved in the passing game. But when we did Bilo sell high on Wednesday, I think this was one of the – I don't remember as I said it, but I know one of us said it about trying to sell David Montgomery. Like that – this was the opportunity because, you know, multiple touchdown games will happen for him, but his value was probably not going to be as high. He'll get back to a higher level. I just also think the Cincinnati run defense is going to end up being very good with Dexter Lawrence and Jonathan Allen in there. And I know Bucky had a good game against them in week one. A lot of that had to do with just his performance. When they face a plotter like this,

I think they're going to do damage against the opposing running back. So that has to do with it as well. So hopefully Montgomery is better in week three. Montgomery getting the Colts in week three on the road. Colts and Cowboys and Titans. So plenty of chances for him to get some numbers. Yeah. Truthfully, I hope that when Nico Collins is back, he's better. You know, I mean...

That's fair point. Yep. Right? Just the offense will be better. Okay. Go to Dave's losers here. I don't know how much you want to expand on it. Rome O'Dunes, Luther Bird, but then Marvin Harrison.

We haven't talked about him. One target, no catches, and a bad day for the... Cardinals' offense. Only 25% of fantasy managers started Marvin Harrison, but the other number is his roster ship, which is 96%. That number has got to go down. I had him ranked as my 100th overall player this week, and that was too high. He was in the 50s among wide receivers. That was too high. He is being given a role that you would expect somebody fast to have, and he is not that. They do not lean on him for his agility. They don't mean.

on him to be some sort of contested catch guy. They lean into Trey McBride, and rightfully so. He's their best pass catcher. Michael Wilson's just okay. Kendrick Bourne had like, what, two catches for 11 yards? Despite the entire passing offense being pretty much mediocre against Seattle, and it is Seattle, but whatever, still just one target from Marvin Harrison. I look forward to going over his film after this game and seeing him running down the field,

usually at three-quarters speed and then turning around and going back to the huddle and then doing it again. He is literally doing something that you would expect Ad and I Mitchell to do. Or name a fast receiver. It's what Christian Watson used to do.

Fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's perfect because who has coached Christian Watson for many years. Except for whatever reason, Michael LeFlor, and maybe he's just realized that the best way to use Marvin Harrison

is just put him over on the side. Like the last fat kid picked for flag football. And you put them over on the sideline, you say, okay, you just go deep every time. And the quarterback, I say, yeah, sure, I'm going to throw it to you. And then he never throws it to you.

And it ruined my life, Brian Banderlup, Darren. We're going to be, you obviously cannot start Marvin Harrison. And there's going to become, there's going to come a point in the very near future where you are going to cut. All right. Let's do it. Would you drop him for Dalton Schultz?

Yes. Assuming I needed a tiny, like, let's say I'm in a world where I've got, I don't know, Marvin Harrison, Jr. and Colson Loveland. or Drake May and Marvin Harrison, Jr. I need to pick up somebody. Hell yeah, man. Bye, Marvin.

Okay. Would you drop him for Trey Tucker? Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Like, when am I going to use Marvin? We need the, the PAM from the office. That's the same picture.

No, they're not the same picture because Big Tucker is fast. And that's what scares me is I do think Marvin Harrison's probably going to have a good game. No, he's moped Marve. He'll have, yes, he might have a good game. He will have good games. No, we won't.

David's writing him off. It's over. It is. He's going to watch him play. I know. Watch him play and tell me that this is somebody that you think has a chance to have a really good game. I didn't draft him in any leagues for this exact reason, Dave. His tape is terrible.

And his role is terrible. Now, speaking of terrible, oh, my gosh. I was going to, I lost it today. What a drive. Yeah, it was a good drive by the Colts. I lost the Colts are going to the Super Bowl. I lost it today. Colts are going to the Super Bowl.

I said that last week. All right, it's time to double down on the beard bet with that one. All right. With the Travis E.T.N. H.N. stuff. Not the pronunciation. The usage. I mean, I think Camara had almost nothing in the second half, at least.

And we saw E.T.N. Sorry, A. Chan, near the goal line. He had a two-point conversion. I think he had a touchdown call back. There's enough encouraging stuff there. But Heath, he's one of your losers with great reason. And I'm so annoyed. Why pay this guy?

when you have the worst running back in football for the last four years and you give him like 10 touches before when ETN has two and I can't even say ETN's name right anymore. I'm losing it, Heath. I am losing it. What is going on here?

I think it was kind of rude of him to lie to us and say his last name is pronounced H.C. It's actually Pacheco. That's wrong, but very right. No, I don't, I don't, I don't, I think, think Kellynne Moore is a really smart offensive coach. And so I have a hard time believing that he will do what he did in this game again.

It was absurd. Travis A. Chan was third on the Saints in rush attempts. Alvin Camarra, I believe, caught five passes for six yards. It was like, that is, and now they won the game. So maybe they won't be as discouraged to do that, something like that again. but you can't start him. He's basically Jacori-Kroski-Mera right now. Well, but at least he's playing near the goal line.

I don't know what's going on, but Jacori-Krosky-Mirat, Rashad White, just basically replaced him. In the second half, I want to see if Camara had any touches in the second half. He had four carries and he did not have a catch in the second half. Four carries for five yards, which is, you know, that's Camara for you. Travis A. Chan had six carries for 16 yards and two cats. matches for six yards.

All right. So he's frustrating. Understand that you're going to be hesitant to start him. He does get the Raiders next week, the 2-0 Las Vegas Raiders. All right, we're going to get in. It'll be nice to see the Raiders play a good team. It will. It will be.

All right, we're going to get into the games when we come back on fantasy football today. A lot of almost touchdowns today, but honestly, there's so much to talk about. I think we'll just get into the games. In terms of the goal line, oh, man. I think we did not see Sean Tucker at the goal line, which was good. We saw Tony Pollard basically be the goal line guy. We saw a lot of stuff for Seattle, but unfortunately, Judarian Price got some opportunities, but not enough of the opportunities near the goal line.

And then Washington was weird. I mean, Rashad White was playing near the goal line. He had all their snaps inside the five. Wow, wow. Rashad White also was there in some hurry-up situations, though, like when Jaden got hurt. Right. And the most, one of the more, well, something that was encouraging and then take a step back was Bejel Tootin. Tutin got a one-yard touchdown run on a direct snap.

Later on the game, they had a goal-to-go situation, I think around the five-yard line and Chris Rodriguez was in. But I would have guessed Rodriguez would be in at the one, and it was Tootin, and he scored. So that was great to see. And then honestly, if the Jets get down near the goal line, don't be surprised if it's Braylon Allen. I still don't think we have an answer. It may not be one guy, but don't be surprised if at time, it's Braylin Allen. Okay, let's get to the games here.

Although we should mention that Terry McLaurin had three almost touchdowns. So he's the biggest tease this week. Cincinnati 20 and Houston 6th, I forgot about believe it or not. Do you want to do believe it or not? I think you killed it last week. Why?

Just officially it's over? Believe it or not, Mike Gassicki did play in this game. But I guess I believe it. Zero targets, though. 20 ran, 20. I looked, because I didn't watch much of this game. And so I wanted to make sure he went from being a top five tied in to not receiving a target. But it was good for Jamar Chase and T. Higgins.

Sounds like Mike Kosicki. Started in 6% of leagues. So, and only rostered in 18%. No one bought it. I think that this is exactly what you want to see from the Bengals. They gave pretty much all of their touches to the three guys that we want them to go to. they didn't have to throw the ball much because they won 20 to 6. And yes, their defense is improved.

But, yeah, I don't know. Like Joe Burrow has 36.5 fantasy points in two games. Are we worried about Joe Burrow? No. Okay. No. The Texans or the Texans. We talked about Montgomery.

You know, Hutchinson, if you still need someone next week, he gets targets. He doesn't do much with them. He had nine targets in this game. And then we talked about Schultz who, yeah, I mean, would you say, sell high on Schultz if someone's buying? I don't think anybody's buying. I think Dalton Schultz is going to be a top 12 tight end. I don't think anybody's buying Dalton Schultz is a top six tight end.

I think if you go to the Lublin manager, you could probably get something for Dalton Schultz if you picked them up for, you know, just bleeps and giggles. Thank you, Jamie. Remove the word giggles from the show, please. Minnesota 9, Chicago 3, another thriller. Actually, this one was pretty exciting.

Can we dismiss the crappy performances from, you know, from Jefferson and Addison and just say it was the weather. But also, Kyler Murray's probably going to start next week, right? You would think. Carson Wentz did nothing to win the job. Right. Right. Fair. Yeah.

And this was all Aaron Jones. Wentz had 20 pass attempts. Jones had 23 carries. Like they could not win this game without Aaron Jones today. What do you think about Addison, keep her drop Jordan Addison? I'd prefer to keep him. Yeah, he's kind of in that purgatory, you know, we got to, I'd like to see just what it looks like with a full game of Colorado Murray. Yes.

Okay. On the Chicago side, yeah, we covered it. However, one thing we didn't really talk about was this Caliph, Raymond roll. Again, he had five targets and they had, I think they had 35 pass attempts, but that's still a two, it's still annoying. So do we have to lower our expectations for Loveland, Burden, and O'Dunes, even like, let's just say Caleb Williams is back in a few weeks. Does Khalif Raymond, if you knew what you know now when you were drafting with the Khalif Raymond role, would drop those guys in your draft? I would not have drafted them as high.

Correct. Yeah. And that's the beginning. what do you mean? Well, I mean, there's all the other factors that we now know about this team that two weeks ago we didn't know. Yeah. And that, I mean, we're absolutely not taking Colson Loveland. We're not taking any of these guys anywhere near where we drafted them based on what we've seen from Caleb Williams. And then obviously now Caleb Hurt plus Raymond having a role. Except we did see one game of Caleb Williams.

He was going to win the MVP. But right. Not in a way to help any of those guys. Right. Right. Yeah. He was Josh Allening it for part of that game against Carolina. That's a great point.

You know, it should be mentioned. He ran 10 times or he ran, how many times he ran, how many times he ran? 15 times. No. I don't know how many. He ran 10 times. He ran 10 times today. Yeah, that's a lot.

He's running more so far this year. That could change with the hamstring. Carolina 30, no, I skipped the game. Cleveland 23, Tampa Bay, 19, after a long weather delay. they finished this one up. Jamie, Baker Mayfield, did not come through. Are we done with him? Yeah, I mean, you might be.

You know, Caleb manager, Jane Daniels manager, you know, they might be excited to get Baker Mayfield. Does not have an easy matchup in week three. You know, you're looking at two struggling performances right now. His offensive line has been bad. You know, I thought, again, that it was Cincinnati last week. That was a big reason why and just, okay,

this Bengals defense could be. legit. And then seeing it today against Cleveland, which Cleveland couldn't do anything against the Jaguars last week, it's not great, I think, for Baker up front. So he had a little bit of, you know, I don't want to say like bad luck because he had some bad throws, but he had guys open that he missed. And so if he hits, you know, Hurst had essentially a drop in the end zone that, you know, maybe would have changed some things.

And when they came back from the weather delay on the winning side and obviously, fantasy production, but really, Abuka has not had a great start. Chris Godwin has not had a great start. And the best player for Tampa Bay easily right now is Bucky Irving. So I hope, as you alluded to, we know, we don't see Sean Tucker. And we certainly am not seeing Ken at the game. I don't know what the purpose of adding him has been if you're not going to use him as a weapon in the passing game.

So really at this point, it's, uh, Bucky is a must start guy. Abuka is probably a maybe start guy and Godwin is, you know, somebody should stand your bench. I thought watching Baker play today, it's like when he drops back to pass, nothing looks easy. No, that's a great way to put it. Like it just, and some of it's, I think some of it is his fault. And I think some of it is he didn't have a lot of guys getting open. And some of it is just the whole thing looks disjointed. The offensive line, and especially the tackles, were letting pressure get near him.

So he dropped back and then immediately step up. And most of the time, by some miracle, he avoided the pastoral pressure and made a throw down the field. But he got sacked, I don't know how many times, not that many, right? Maybe three. He just gets hit so much. He gets hit a lot. He likes to hold the ball, you know. He likes the he likes to look at the way. I don't know if he's holding it that much. I think the offensive line is really where the genesis of the problems are for Tampa. I think Jamie's right about that. And that's part of the reason why they struggled to get points up early on Cleveland. Okay. And I will say, I think anyone in this boat,

I was pretty high on Chris Goblin, and I don't even want to start him right now. I'm not going to drop them, but I don't want to stop. Why? I did drop him in one league, but it's kind of a shallower league. But look, it's two games. There's always going to be teams that are bad for a certain amount of time and turn things around. It could happen. I don't want to give up on.

Baker Mayfield had a 26 or a 27 game stretch from the end of 2023 to the first six games of 2025, where he averaged more than 24 fantasy points per game. He did it for parts of two seasons and a full season in between. I'm not ready after two games to completely give up on that. Obviously, I'm less excited, less hopeful for it. I'm not quite ready to give up. And he's going to suck next week against Minnesota too. So I'm going to say it again.

I'm not going to give up on it. And I don't know if these numbers are updated fully for, we always have this question on Sunday night. either last week or through this week. Baker has the seventh highest time to pressure. He's getting pressured. No, like two points. No, highest.

Longest. Okay. Yes, 2.77 seconds. It's tied with Trevor Lawrence. I think he's holding the ball. All right. He's definitely holding the ball. Without question, he's holding the ball.

Yeah. I think that's kind of his style. And as far as Cleveland goes, what are you? Your Super Bowl champions just poop themselves. Listen, man, this, I think what you have to watch out with the Colts is they're going to come out with this scripted opening drive and look great. And what are they going to do afterwards, right? Yeah. But it was the usual first read for Daniel Jones.

I mean, it was a slant that got intercepted? I mean, Giants fans have nightmares about that. Anyway, what's, Dave, what do you tell Quinn John Judkins managers right now? Hold, try not to start. It's hard to feel good about him. Here's a game that Cleveland won, but they won it on the arm of Deshawn Watson. How's that for his sentence? He had five catches.

He did. 12 carries 21 yards, though. 1.8 yards per carry. Speaking of offensive lines that aren't doing great. I think the run blocking could be a little bit better for Cleveland. And the five catches are great. 27 yards are fine. It's hard to start Quinn-Shodd-Judkins expecting five catches every single week.

I do think he, and I don't know if this is a fifth. I usually like to wait a day until when I check the routes and stuff like that. I think they changed a little bit. But I think he played a little bit more Judkins on third down this week, which is encouraging. Yeah, it's encouraging. Okay, that's the Browns. Would you rather have Dave Montgomery or Quinchon Judkins rest of season? Oh, Montgomery.

I'm going to say Judkins, but no, with zero conviction. Yeah, I'm, I have zero conviction either. I go with the younger guy who just caught five passes. How about Chuba Hubbard or Quinshon Judkins? Chuba. Chuba. It had to be Chuba. Let's go to Carolina 34, Atlanta 3.

We're looking forward to a quarterback change for the Falcons. I don't really know what to say here. I mean, we talked about Bryce Young. Jalen Coker, Jamie, pretty good follow-up. I mean, he didn't have a, he wasn't wide receiver one this week, but eight for 66 on nine targets. We'll take it. I think they're both must-star guys.

You know, you're looking at what we love is concentrated targets. I know Darren Waller had the two touchdowns, but, I mean, look, you got nine for Koker and 10 for McMillan. The quarterback is playing great right now. This wasn't necessarily the opponent that challenged them, and I think we had some questions about that, right? The bears were making them have to throw where the Falcons are going to do the same. And you still got a great performance from Bryce Young who just, I mean, like the Falcons. Alkin should trade for Bryce Young. He's just amazing when he plays in that city. So, you know, I think just looking at it, getting Cleveland next week, two different versions of the Browns' defense has showed up through two games.

But the same version of Bryce Young has shown up through two games, and it's been a pretty good fantasy quarterback. So hopefully that just continues for Coker and McMillan. And, you know, I think like we've talked about a handful of players, not necessarily just receivers. But like Jalen Coker, if he's not in your flex or not in one of your starting receivers at this point, I don't know what more the guy has to do because it was a great. finish to last season. It's been even better through the first two games of the season. And he's keeping pace with a guy in McMillan who was a top four round pick.

So, I don't know. To me, Jailen Koker's more than delivered on his expectations. And thankfully last week's injury wasn't a problem with the ankle. So start him until further notice. Would you trade straight up Jalen Koker for Colson Loveland? So I think it depends.

I would rather have Koker and find a titan. I have a team that has, George Pickens and T. Higgins and Parker. And it's a league where you start two wide receivers. I would trade Jalen Coker for Colston Loveland in that league. Okay. Fair enough. But it would have to be a, you'd have to be stacked at wide receiver.

And maybe I should just start Jalen Coker over George Pickens. One other note of positivity for the Panthers passing game. Two very different game scripts for the Panthers. Yeah. Blown out in week one. Yeah, yeah. But no, 63% pass rate for the Panthers. I'll give you one more positive.

They're doing this without their tackles. Yeah, that's a great point. All right, Philadelphia 24, Tennessee 20. And you look at, I'm sorry, just from an NFL perspective, like the Saints could have been 1-0-1 if they tied last week instead of going for the win. They also could have been 2-0. The Panthers may win the division again. You know, Tampa Bay does not look good right now.

Oh, and two? Like, they're there. There. All right, Philadelphia 24 and Tennessee 20. The Titans had the ball for 23 minutes and 35 seconds. They had the ball for less than that in week one. They've run 100 plays in two games. That's very low.

And they stink. The Eagles, though, this was a game where, I mean, all I saw was Red Zone. But every time I saw Jalen Hertz, I feel like he was running for his life. Their line is just not. great. No, it's hard when your offensive line gets hurt. Yeah, 100%. So any major takeaways from this game?

I mean, we had 74 yards from Don Tavian Wicks. We have the Goddard injury. Heath, what do you think in here for the Eagles? I think we pretty much know what to say about the Titans. Well, I think this game didn't count for the bet, actually, because their tight end got hurt. Oh, no. We weren't going to count games when different players weren't there. No.

I don't think there's really. anything to take away from this other than is Sequin Barclay healthy. And if he is not, is Tank Biggsby a, like a first, like use my first waiver claim on? Second. Jonah Coleman will be first. I think that's right. Shipley had more snaps than Bigsby in this game. Yeah. And for this is just the fourth quarter. Shipley had to 60% of the snaps and four or five on third down. and their only snap inside the five, tank Bigsby 35% of the snaps.

He'd also probably have to put Emmanuel Wilson in that conversation too. Yeah, pending prices injury, sure. Well, we know prices hurt. We don't know the extent of it. Barkley at least came back from his injury. Well, Wicks has two straight games with over 70 yards, and he's 43% rostered. You know, it's not a ton of targets.

It's 10 targets in two games, and Hertz actually through 37 passes in this game. But do you think Don Tavian Wix should be owned and at least rostered in at least half of our leagues?

If Goddard's going to miss time, yes. Yep. Okay. All right, and then I'm sorry about the Titans.

Every league needs the Titans. I had a tough call to make a 10-team league with a shallow bench and I dropped Cardinal Tate. I didn't want to do it,

but he was easily the best, the top guy to drop. I was thinking about this as you were talking. If you saw Marvin Harris and Cardinal Tate and Jordan Addison

on your waiver wire, who would you pick out first Addison Addison Yeah Tate would be second You would Yeah

Okay New England 20 Pittsburgh 3 Just last thing on the Titans If you had Tony Powell At least he did get some goal line chances I think he almost scored You know it just didn't work out But All right New England 20 Pittsburgh 3

I didn't see all of it But I'm pretty sure you guys know I think Carlton Davis I mean sorry I think Christian Gonzalez was shadowing D.K. McCaff. And D.K. McKay should have had a great day. He was awful. He had a terrible case of the Jerry Judy's

in the first half. I think we can call them the D.K. Metcalfs. He's dropped enough. He stinks. It's the first two games, really. Like, he's gotten all of the volume. 19 targets in his first two games. And a couple of them were bad throws from Rogers. But just awful drops. And you have to wonder, like, do they just stop throwing it to him?

Was he shadow? There's nobody else. So that's the problem. him. He was shadowed, right? Well, it wasn't every play because Gonzalez was on Jeremy Bernard and for a couple plays. He was on fire roof too. Okay, but it was, at least saw a lot of him with that, you know, he doesn't usually beat great cornerbacks like that.

And yeah, he had it. I saw one drop. I didn't see all the jobs, but yeah, rough game. But maybe, I mean, is this a buy low window for D.K. Metcalf? No. Who wants D.K. Metcalfe. He's currently tied for. for fourth in targets among wide receivers through two weeks, which is great.

Yeah, but he's not doing Jack Dittily with him. But that's the thing. It's like if you're just, and it's 8.4 yards per catch on the balls that he is catching. Okay, this is how I would look at it, right? I don't think he's going to get eight or nine targets a game. But if he could at least be a wide receiver three, right, then you get him as a throw in for a trade and no one even, the guy who trades Metcalf thinks I'm getting rid of this bum.

Maybe you have a player that has a good. week here or there, you know. I think if you can get into the throne. He'll definitely have good weeks here there. Yeah, good luck figuring out when those are going to be. Yeah. He should have had a great game last week against Atlanta. You just saw what the Panthers receivers did against Atlanta.

And now this week, and again, nine targets. Tougher matchup this week. You can kind of forgive him for it. But at the same time, when you're getting this type of opportunity, you should be able to do better than 7.4 people. If you know there's someone in your league that's very, that's very, uh, reliant on or looks at targets and is encouraged by the target volume and is dealing with an AJ Browns, A. Flowers, maybe Puganakua injuries, you know, like, and wants to just buy into,

oh, hey, look, the volume is there for him. Then maybe you can have some sort of a package trade with D.K. Macaf. But I don't think anybody's like, oh, I got to go get D.K. MacG. Right. He's a piece of it. And I would, okay, like, if he were on the waiver wire with Addison, Harrison, Harrison, and Tate, would he be, would you pick him up over those guys? I was drafting Addison ahead of D.K. McCaff, so I'd rather have Addison. I would, oh no, Alec Pierce is limping.

He may be okay. Josh Downes might be a monster soon if Keenan Allen suspended. No, D.K. would be the top of that list pretty easily for me, Adam. I'm the guy that Jamie was talking about that has Zayflowers and likes targets and would take D.K. Metcalfe as a throw in on a deal.

Okay. And then we talked about the Patriots, let me ask you rest of season. Bryce Young or Drake May? You only have one? Bryce Young. It feels reactionary to say Young. It's another month of No, A.J. Brown. It's true.

Okay. All right. It feels reaction. Great win for the Saints at Baltimore. Yeah, it was. Question for the Saints here. He goes right to Josh Downs on the first play. with um

with uh yeah let's ask a question for the ravens do you think lamar jackson if zay flours misses another game do you think lamar jackson is not is no longer a must start quarterback they're playing dallas you're starting him yeah they are in rio do you think rsad bateman will have value when zay flours well that's a great point dave i wonder if flowers plays in that game the field's bad they say right the field is horrible according to reports yeah

Okay, wait, back to this, though. Do you think Rashad Bateman, seven catches, 88 yards, and a touchdown is relevant when Flowers comes back? No, I think he... I agree that he's not relevant in the case you're starting. They still lost Jacoby Lane. Let's not overlook that. They lost two receivers going into this game. It wasn't just Flowers.

It was, you know, a guy that they were counting on to be a significant contributor. So I don't think Rashad Bateman does this again if Flowers is healthy. But I wouldn't be surprised if he's in that wide receiver three range. Yeah. Well, if I were coaching, I'd probably get him the ball more than flowers. I think he's underused guy. Sure. Right. What do you guys think about Devon Velae and Jawan Johnson? Who do you think is a better start at their respective position?

They both had about 65 yards, four or five catches, pretty similar games for Vailay and Johnson. Heath, who's a better start at their respective position? Which of the wide receivers are going to be healthy for next week? I would say, like, probably I would lean towards Johnson. But if the majority of the wide receivers don't come back next week, then it may be valet. 10.6 ppr points for Joanne Johnson. He hadn't almost touchdown. I don't know if you mentioned that earlier, Adam.

But I would be far more inclined to take Juan at tight end. That's one of the tight ends that you could have gone and picked up off the waiver wire. Instead of trying to trade for Dalton Schultz and give up something on your bench for him, yeah, you just find a tight end like this who's in a good offense. He's going to get solid target volume from week to week. this is a game where they didn't throw like crazy, certainly compared to week one, and he still gave you double digits.

Okay. Jackson was not available as much as Schultz was Johnson, like 77% roster, 73% roster. I think just knowing that. Going into this week, do you mean, yes. Loveland's terrible performance, Goddard injured, like, if they're both on waivers,

I'm taking Juan Johnson. All right, Green Bay 20 and the Jets 17. What do you make of Adonai Mitchell having 12 targets and only seven for Garrett Wilson, who did score a touchdown here. But, you know, Dave, your take on the Jets passing game. Gino clearly had eyes for him and Mitchell drew some penalties along the way. He's solid. I don't know if I could ever look at Adonai Mitchell and put him in even the same boat as Devon Valle

because I don't know how often the Jets are going to be in a in a game where they can't run the ball, whatsoever. I mean, this was surprising. The Packers' run defense really stepped up in this game. They deserve a lot of credit. Brees Hall had 16 carries, 1.8 yards per rush. Just totally shocking that they couldn't run the ball a little bit better than they did. I would imagine there will be games down the stretch where the Jets will be able to run the ball fairly well. And I-N-N-I-Mitchell won't see 12 targets. He might not even see six. So deep leagues, if you want to use Ad-Ni-Mitchell, he's like a boom-buss number four wide receiver. Do the Packers have a running back that we want to start?

No. Not until Jacob's situation has resolved, no. Caleb had some nice runs. I know that there were some bad stuff in there too, but he actually had some very nice runs in this game. He might be the answer. I don't know. I mean, Marshawn Lloyd had that fumble.

Caleb Johnson had the team with eight carries, 32 yards. Caleb had a fumble too. He just didn't lose it. That's right. That's right. Yeah, all right. Well, that's a waiver-wire topic. And then with Jaden readout, I mean,

Christian Watson could have just, I don't know how long Jane reads out, but, you know, could be. I'd be surprised if you played next week. I wouldn't lose sight of Matthew Golden either. Yeah. Like, push came to shove in the fourth quarter. That dude was getting the ball. And he's still got speed to make plays after the catch too. And the more that this team can't run the ball.

Like, we could talk about the jets and say, yeah, eventually the jets should be able to run the ball and do what they did in week one against Tennessee. They'll find other opponents to do that against. I don't know if Green Bay is going to be able to run the ball effectively. uh even maybe even when jacobs comes back their offensive line took a hit today and so if this is just just going to be the game script over and over again for jordan love these two dudes watson and golden are going to be must starts okay let's go let's go to the late games last Vegas 26 and the chargers 14 jamie how worried are you about the chargers offense eight out of ten nine out of ten 15 out of ten i mean does mike mac daniel survive the

season does he survive the next five games like it's it's bad It's really bad. The interior of the offensive line is the biggest problem. It's, you know, something I think for me, at least, you know, should have looked into a little bit more when Biotis got injured. I just thought, you know, the tackles back, they'll be able to have, you know, the ability to overcome it even moving some guys around. But Hampton was having a great game until the fumble. That just sucked. You know, I thought he looked really good.

It was good to get Ladd-McConkie out there just from a play standpoint. Clearly, he did not do enough. But I don't know what the issue is right now for Herbert. He's not stepping into his throws. he just looks, you know, confused. This week's game is going to be very telling for him because Buffalo's defense stinks. And so can he go out there and have success against them

after just playing what we thought were going to be too miserable defenses in the Cardinals and the Raiders? And he has not taken advantage of it. So you got to, I think as the Herbert manager, explore Bryce Young for sure, maybe some other quarterbacks that we'll see on the waiver work, There's going to be some guys that are dropped after some poor performances. But I know for me, I have Herbert in three or four leagues,

and I'm not happy at all with what I've seen. Are they the first team in NFL history to lose 26 to 14 in each of the first two games of the season? That's such an odd score. I mean, if anyone would know, it would be you. That's just an odd score. I thought it was really strange that it ended up 26 to 14 again. Okay. O and two origami.

Heath, do you do you? you win or like do you feel good if the chargers go two and 15 but their two wins are against the chiefs yes 100 percent perfectly fine that would be yes you know who also feel good about that is chargers fans oh yeah one two super bowl win two super bowls in one year so i also want to mention that you said the interior their offensive line the on the broadcast when max crosbie got held in the end zone for the safety play by play guy said a nightmare or day for Joe Altz continues or something like that. So he apparently had a terrible day against Max Crosby.

Okay. It's not just Crosby for the Raiders, by the way. Coontz had a sack and a half in this game. They got after it last week, too. This defense might actually be halfway decent. Drop or hold, Quentin Johnston. Hold. Okay.

But I kind of don't know why. I mean, five targets isn't bad. That led the Chargers. did. We know that he's a robust type of wide receiver. Last joke. Not really a joke,

but like just last poking. Jamie mentioned next week at Buffalo. It's at Seattle after that. And then it's Denver. And then it's at Kansas City. They may not want a game going into their by week. What's the over under on their wins going into their buy? I mean,

like the thing is if they get things right, they're obviously a team that can beat good teams. Obviously. They are. Proving that through. throughout the history of just hard. They went to the playoffs last year, man. They were like, come on.

You got to hope that they catch Seattle still with Drew Locke, and that gives them a chance in that one. They're not going to be Buffalo unless Buffalo just completely bleeps to bed. All right. Let's, let's go on here. They need to fix their line. Nothing changes until they fix their line, and that's the problem on the offensive side of the ball.

Denver 20, Jacksonville 13. Heath, you did not like Trevor Lawrence this week, and he scored 6.2 fantasy points. Yeah, great call. Yeah. Yeah, I thought it's weird. I thought it was kind of weird, actually, because I thought their offense looked better than their final production.

Like, it kind of looked like they, like Lawrence could get Parker Washington whenever he wanted, and it kind of looked like Basial Tutin could get six yards whenever he wanted. And so it was kind of weird how they ended up scoring 13 points and not scoring any touchdowns. watching the game with Pete Prisco who, you know, knows the Jaguars as well as anybody, he said right after it happened, they're going to lose the game on the Chris Rodriguez goal line play. Because Tudin had the touchdown earlier.

Tudin was running well. You bring in, you know, a different running back throws off, I think some of the pace, you know, and listen, that's their game plan. That's their offense. They're going to use a short yarder's guy. But, like, I think you're right, Heath. like you're correct me of wrong but i think your narrative was angry broncos defense coming off a loss

you know so slow down the jaguars offense and you know the interception was you know one thing for for lawrence but it felt like they they still were moving up and down the field you know and just didn't get the the production that you you know need to get to win a game on the road like that so um yeah it was just interesting you know observation there that you change you change your backfield and you do what you think is right for your right for your team and it you know sometimes that doesn't work it's probably also worth looking into what the broncos did differently in the second half because lawrence at halftime 12 of 17 passing 138 yards no turnovers so not and no touchdowns either obviously but at least he had gotten off to that good

stuff that you talked about heat and then 57 yards in the second half completed five passes out of i don't know doing the math in my head i guess it's 12 yeah that's a really bad second half yeah and Brian Thomas Jr. was only started in 12% of leagues, and I think people knew to sit him, but he was not shadowed by Patrick Sertan. I don't think anybody was. He just stunk anyway. He's got drops issues for sure. He's in purgatory. And he's got New England next week, so that's tough. New England at Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Houston. I did talk about this before the season started. I thought Brian Thomas Jr. had the worst schedule of any wide receiver in the NFL. And I don't know if he's going to get that kind of, maybe the good news is he hasn't played well enough to get the treatment of

Carlton Davis or DJ Turner or Philadelphia, Houston, whatever, but it's still not a good schedule. It's not a good schedule for Lawrence, but, you know, we'll save. And then anything else, Bo Nix, 86% roster, does he dropable? Yes. Okay. I'm not ready to drop him because he turned it up in the second half. He was better in the second half. So kind of curious to see where this goes from here.

he's drop a bull. You don't have to keep Drop a bull. Sure. Yeah, yeah. If you're a one QB guy and you just only carry one quarterback and Bryce Young's on the waiver wire.

Sure. Zionara. Bonix. Yes, of course. Seattle 31, Arizona 7. Yes, Chris. Jonah's the number one priority. Jonah Coleman.

Yes. Not Jonah Amstetter. Yeah. I don't know if I agree just because I don't think Dobbins and Harvey are long-term injuries. That's my only concern. Who cares if they are?

amazing. But I don't think they are. If it's one week, it's amazing. Well, but that's part of the, it's the Rams next week. It's the Rams. All right, Seattle 31, Arizona, 7. Thoughts on the running backs in this game.

If I tell you, Judari and Price, I'm going to throw Bejel Tooting in there from last game, and Jeremiah Love, how would you rank them rest of season right now? Right. Yeah, let's say Price is healthy. I don't have the chest injury, but let's say he's healthy. I almost want to put love first, then Tutin, then Price, and it's all with a look toward November and December.

Yeah, I would agree. Once Charbonnay's back, it could be bad for price. So I would go to the same order. Okay. And it's still another week where it's a lot of Tyler Alger, too much Tyler Alger. 64% of the snaps, almost every third down snap, almost every snap inside of 10. Like, it's not cool what the Cardinals are doing. I guess I get it.

And not the best efficiency game for love either. Okay, sorry. Jacobi Bressner really had 95 yards passing today, by the way. 95. That's wild. All right. Seattle's good. Seattle's great.

They make you throw it short, short, short, short, short, short. And San Francisco might be really good, too. We'll see. It's next week for them. Then Giants, lions, you know, some good matchups, some bad matchups along the way for Berset. San Francisco 35, Miami 13, and then we'll have Dallas and Washington. Do you think, let's just do this, you know, obviously there's an easy know if Mike Evans is hurt.

But if Evans, Kittle and McCaffrey are all, and Debo Samuel are all healthy, do you think it's going to be kind of a frustrating ride rostering these 49ers? Heath? I mean, I don't think they're all going to be good every week, but I think that they're going to be good every week. but I think that they can be good enough, like two out of three weeks. I don't know if I'd go quite as far as frustrating. Like, Brock Purdy looked like his stats look like he played a high school football game this weekend. And he was awesome in week one also, just did whatever he wanted. And so, yeah, I think it won't be surprising if one guy gets left out a week.

But I think they're all still going to be good enough to just start them. how often will it be three out of the four? And you almost have to... I mean, how often is three guys on the same team in the receiving court? That's the point is that it's kind of rare. But how often do we start three guys on... Well, whenever you factor in the tight end, the tight end is almost always starting.

So when you have an elite tight end, which they do, he's going to be in your starting lineup. The question comes down to really, I think, is Debo Samuel going to be in your lineup? Because Mike Evans is healthy, unless he just has a stretch of games that he's terrible, you're going to start to bench him. So in three receiver leagues,

he's definitely going to be starting. and two receiver leagues he's most likely going to be starting. The one that was a letdown today was Debo, just because if you were to say going into it, hey, dolphins, no stribling, and Evans gets hurt, I would have said sign me up for that player all day long. And DeMarcus Robinson got hurt.

And DeMarcus Robinson, yeah. Okay, how about last question on this? No, two more questions. One, drop or hold, Caleb Douglas, a quiet game today. Drop. Yeah, that turned sour real quick. Devon A. Chan.

23 touches. I sell hold, Devon A. Chan. Hold. Hold. It's a hold. Dallas 37, Washington, 20. Who's the best commanders receiver rest of season? I'm going to say McLauran.

I guess the fact that we're thinking about it this long tells you something. Sure. I don't know if it tells you more about Diggs or McLaurin. But here's an example of a player that you're hopeful for because they get a lot of targets. And so what did the commanders do a week after? McLaurin really didn't see a lot of targets. They gave him nine. And he just couldn't make anything happen.

Then three almost touchdowns. I mean, you've got to figure that he's almost touchdowns would have come from what might be their best quarterback in Antonio Williams. Antonio Williams, right? Honestly, I don't know if anyone's buying Stefan Diggs, but I might want to try to sell.

He's just not playing enough as of right now. I don't really think that's going to change. I think he's playing enough to be what he was last year. Maybe. Because people were going to see the time. Because people were going to see the time. touchdowns, back-to-back games, and say, oh, I know the name. Clearly, there's a wildcarts all this because we don't know what Marioato is going to do for this offense

from the standpoint of he's never played with Diggs, and now there's that wrinkle of it. So is Diggs going to be the one he prefers? I don't know. I mean, I don't think there's any rhyme or reason to it. I think they're both wide receiver threes. You clearly see what the upside of McClorin is. He could have had a monster game today, and then it would be a no-brainer. but last week was kind of telling as well

I guess once we find out what Jane Daniels's prognosis is and when he's going to return that can determine some things also. So it's a small sample size but McLaurin led the way in targets from Mariota with five. Diami Brown had four. Diggs, White, Antonio Williams, three each. Any concerns about George Pickens?

Six catches for 40 yards. He's still a must-dark guy, but he probably goes from borderline wide receiver one to mid-tier wide receiver too. And they have Baltimore next week. And you get after that. You had you had the, this was the Jake Ferguson week.

You know, next week you'll go back to two for seven like we saw in week one. You know, so when he scores touchdowns, it's probably somebody's going to get left out. It was, you know,

C.D. Lamb was a monster and George, George Pickens was just not. I would buy low. Yeah. You guys saw the mouthpiece stuff? Yeah. That was pretty,

That was pretty wild. I did not. What happened? During the Giants game, George Pickens was not, it wasn't every single play like this, but a lot of plays, he would have his mouthpiece out on run plays

and put his mouthpiece in on past plays. Oh. It was why. They even asked, Schottenheimer, I think, was on a radio show or a podcast and was asked about it. Okay.

Anyway, that's it for the show. We're hoping for good news for Alec Pierce, as we did this show he walked he was carded off the field so hopefully he comes back uh next week too many cards to that too many cards absolutely one of rough rough week for injuries thanks for watching listen to everybody we will talk to you tomorrow on fantasy football today podcasts