Fantasy Football Today - Week 3 Recap: Big Injuries, Rising RBs, Slumping Studs (09/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 22, 2025Running back injuries could be changing the landscape at the position. We'll talk about our biggest winners (3:45) which include a couple of rookie RBs and our biggest losers (5:30) of Week 3. Then w...e go over the big news (9:15) and talk about Trey Benson's rest of season value, Omarion Hampton, CeeDee Lamb and more ... Buy or Sell (14:30) on the Chargers wide receivers, Quinshon Judkins, A.J. Brown and the Bears offense. Then we've got more news and notes (21:00), an early look at the waiver wire (23:00), more winners (24:40) including Jordan Mason and Michael Pittman and more losers (31:35) including Jacory Croskey-Merritt and Brian Thomas Jr. ... Recapping each game (42:00) with our Fantasy thoughts ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is one of those head-spinning days.
And the fantasy landscape really may have changed quite a bit
with some huge injuries, very sorry to see it, really stinks.
But James Connor and Najee Harris with serious injuries,
C.D. Lamb leaving early in the game.
It was that kind of day.
Mike Evans also injured.
So we will update you on everything.
Terry McLaurin left with a quad injury.
But you know what?
We're going to be happy.
We're going to have fun.
We're going to recap the Sunday action.
and Heath and I are going to be watching Chiefs Giants together in about 45 minutes or half hour.
All right.
Your number one quarterback right now going into Sunday night football is Caleb Williams.
Correct.
Your number one running back is Jonathan Taylor.
Correct.
Correct.
Your number one wide receiver is?
Oh, it's who we all knew it would be.
Heath, go ahead.
Number one wide receiver?
Yeah.
He's one of your winners for this week.
Oh, Trey.
Tucker, yeah.
Tray Tucker, 40.
I told somebody to sit him for probably Harold Fanon.
So I would ask you.
And your number one tight end?
Dun, it's time to play the game.
I guess that's a double-h shot.
Hunter, Henry.
Fun fact, week one, I started Cooper Cup over Hunter Henry, and Henry outscored him by 18 points.
Week two, I started Hunter Henry over Cooper Cup and Cup outscored him by 14.
points and week three i started cooper cup over hunter henry yeah no i can't stand that you just do the
world a solid and start cooper cup over hunter henry every week or at least let us know who you start
so we know to go with the other guy yeah no i can't take it i obviously i hunter henry was on waivers
a week one i picked him up i started in week two i dropped him for week three okay anyway biggest winner
biggest loser who wants to be the winner guy wants to be a happy guy dave dave who's the biggest winner
coming out of week three.
I'm going to do a two for one,
rookie running backs.
Quinn Sean Judkins and Omari and Hampton.
Hamptons is a little bittersweet
because of the nausey injury,
but it's fantasy football.
We have to be real about these things.
And thank goodness he's on the shelf
because Omari and Hampton
is going to dominate playing time
and we're going to see Hampton
rock and roll.
We saw him as a big factor in the passing game.
His rushing average could be a little bit better.
That offensive line could be a little bit better.
But Omar and Hampton has arrived,
and he's still got more meat on the bone.
You can start him confidently as a number two fantasy run.
But was I too excited?
A little.
Yes.
Very much.
Yeah, you kind of were.
No one was rooting for Najee this year.
Everybody was hoping.
Doesn't matter.
Everybody that got Hampton, they're excited with me.
All the Naji fans, they're not going to.
I don't care about the Naji fans.
The man, like, his career might be over.
I'm sorry, no, no.
I hope it's not over.
Now you're making me feel really bad if his career.
career is over.
All right.
So his career is not going to be over.
Come on.
He's a young man,
probably tore his Achilles.
The preliminary reports are that for Najee Harris.
And then, of course,
Quinn Sean Judkins.
I have a buyer sell about Quinn Sean Judkins a little bit later,
but he didn't light it up necessarily.
Well, he scored a touchdown.
He was fantastic.
He was really good.
Dominated, just dominated the running back touches.
And he actually ran the most routes among Cleveland running backs.
All right.
So we got another one about him a little bit later.
Heath, negative Heath,
who's the big loser
so like the
I never send my names in first
so I don't ever have the biggest loser
but I'll take
I'll steal one from
Dave and say
Chase Brown
oh my gosh
was that a miserable performance
from the entire Bengals
offense and defense
they were all terrible
I'm not sure anybody was worse
than Chase Brown
who at least he
didn't lose his fumble might have a negative rush average by the end of next week because
he just keeps going the wrong direction they can't block he can't make anybody miss the
offense is terrible skyline chili is overrated stop right there everything you said about chase
brown i mean everyone's really worried 10 carries for three yards four catches for 17 yards
but you said the offense is terrible and that has not
been the case with Jake Browning.
He's usually pretty good.
Was this a one week blip or how concerned?
Well, one week blip for Chase Brown.
No, no, but...
Because even when Joe Burrow was there, Chase Brown was terrible.
His yards before contact is way down.
His yards after contact is way down.
His broken tackles are way down.
He was a day three running back.
One of the only ones, one of the only guys really profiled, like I'll admit it,
D'Andre Swift, like Tony Pollard,
like a lot of guys we were concerned about
is like, are these the dead zone running backs
that were really only drafting this high
because they look like they're going to get all the work?
And we didn't ask that question about Chase Brown.
Oh, we did.
We just drafted them in round two.
I still think he...
Well, I think it's very dependent on Burrow.
He's got...
I don't know.
Did anybody get a carry other than him today?
Because going into the game, he got Z.
He had every single carry.
Yeah, P. Ryan got four.
P. Ryan led them in rushing yards.
He has going into the game every single carry for the Bengals.
And if you have that role on the Joe Burrow Bengals, you would have been good.
Chase Brown or Tony Pollard rest of the season.
Chase Brown.
I don't know why.
Because of Spears.
But also barf for both of them.
No, I don't disagree with this take at all.
Dave, how about you, Chase Brown or Tony Pollard?
I mean, I want to say Chase Brown because I don't think the Bengals offense is this bad, but, I mean, we know what he had 13 PPR points.
He had 13 PPR points.
That was obviously a game with Burrow.
And we thought, okay, he can get better than that.
Two games since combined is 14.5 PPR points.
He's, he, you know what, though, it's okay a lot.
I think he's still going to be decent.
I just don't think he's going to come close to returning second round value.
And if you trade him right now, you might not get eighth round value for him.
So you're stuck.
Go ahead.
I overreacted.
It's okay.
He gets the Broncos next week.
And then the Lions.
And then the Packers.
And then the Steelers.
It'd be fine.
Good.
He's in trouble.
I'm sitting him.
Yeah, he's a stinker.
Chase Brown, no question.
So hold on a second.
We're going to talk about some other running backs that have underwhelmed.
we should probably make note of those that we would try and trade for and maybe use as a stopgap
until we feel more confident about Chase Brown.
Like Trey Benson, for example.
Oh, come on, obviously.
I'd rather have Trey Benson rest of season.
I think everyone would, I assume.
We don't have a dot.
I think so.
So James Connor, yeah, all right.
So that's what we're going to get into now.
Let's get it to the big news here.
James Connor left in the third quarter.
We don't know exactly what it is.
Look like an ankle injury.
Look bad.
Trey Benson, 80% rostered, obviously should add him.
10 carries, 42 yards.
He's going to be a guy who gets most of his yards on one carry.
He makes big plays.
And Amari DiMarcardo had a terrible drop in the game,
so hopefully they won't use him quite as much.
Yeah, no, they're going to, though.
He was already their third down back as soon as Connor got hurt.
So, he was bad.
Yeah, I, uh,
they've been using him in that role for two years.
Heath.
Trey Benson.
I mean, what do we think, kind of like a second round value going forward, third round
value?
Oh, third.
Third or fourth.
And honestly, like, you're only going to get eighth round value in trade for Chase Brown,
but I still might take him over Benson the rest of the season.
I'll tell you right now, I lost James Connor in our podcast league and, you know, 14 team
league, there's just no running backs.
I don't really have a backup.
I think I'm going to offer Ladd McConkey for Trey Benson.
if I find out Conner's out for the year.
So that is the one team of mine this year that's good.
I might still have,
no,
I don't have another extra running back.
I'm sorry.
Yeah,
no one does.
I mean,
I do have Travis E.TN,
Ken Walker,
and Quinchon Judkins.
Oh.
But I don't have a fourth.
No.
All right.
But that's kind of how I think,
like,
Trey Benson's got a great opportunity here.
Yeah.
Want to poll that one?
Can we do that?
Ladd McCong.
Yeah,
let's do it, Thomas.
You two pull.
Chase Brown versus Trey Benson.
Oh, I thought we were going to do
Lab McComte versus Tray. You know it would be almost as
sad as Trey Benson
versus Chase Brown.
What?
Jerry Judy versus Marvin Harrison.
Or D'Andre Swift
versus Alvin Camara.
The thing is, Dave, I know
fantasy football audience is well enough
by now and you do too.
If I throw Chase Brown versus Trey Benson up,
I'll do it on Twitter.
It's going to be at least 80%
Trey Benson.
Right, because of recency buys, of course.
But not just that.
There's Chase Brown.
sucks. And like, this is really bad. And I'll do it. I'll humor you.
Okay. Other big news, Naji, we talked about that. So, Omari and Hampton. All right, what are you
thinking for Omari and Hampton? Now, listen, they are a good team. They're a good team.
They, he still didn't run the ball great. He made it, you know, he got the touchdown, but he also
had six cash just for 59 yards. But they were trailing in this game. They did win. But they got
the Giants next week. They got commanders should be good. Then, you know, Miami. I guess my point
is if he's not doing this in the passing game,
is actually maybe the peak of Omari in Hampton's value,
or do you think we've got this opportunity?
Let's just see it through and see what happens.
We're working under the assumption
that Naji's not going to come back for this season.
And I think Hampton,
who had 88% of the workload,
or of the Snapshare, I should say,
after the Naji injury,
I think he's taking off.
This is it.
And so we love what we saw as far as the catch is going.
That'll be in games where the chargers are competitive.
and even in the games where they're leading
you could still see at least a couple of grabs for Hampton
and I think his rushing average will work out
and you know he's going to be in in short yardage
this is a big plus
huge opportunity
Okay CD Lamb thinks he'll be ready next week
that would be against the Green Bay Packers
so at least it seems like we've avoided
I'm not going to take him out his word necessarily
but we've avoided a serious injury with CD Lamb
It's better than a report that says
that he's in a boot or something in the locker room
I was wishing you would put a boot on.
Why is he walking around on the sideline?
Like, start resting it now.
Do we have any updates on Mike Evans,
as Chris Godwin should be back next week against the Eagles,
or Terry McLaren who's at Atlanta next week?
I thought Terry McLaren scored in that play.
No, he definitely did not.
I thought he did.
I did at first glance, but unless I'm crazy,
you saw the replay?
I thought he looked clearly down, but all right.
I mean, the replays don't really take.
tell us anything because it looks like on the replay the Eagles
false start on every
tush push, but they don't.
They did it again today, by the way.
Do we have any updates on Evans or McLauran?
Not that I have seen.
I know.
Okay.
Carson Wentz is going to start next week.
He faces the Steelers.
All right.
So we do have some more news and notes,
but those are the big ones they need to know about.
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Oh, yeah, you know what?
We'll take a little break here.
No, let's do Byersel.
Buy our cell real quick here.
Buy or sell.
Quentin Johnston is the best Chargers wide receiver going forward.
So.
So.
Why?
He's crushing him right now.
Keenan Allen's better.
Yeah, that's true, actually.
I don't know if, do we have updated stats for them?
Probably.
Yeah.
What do you want to know?
Chargers.
I got Quentin Johnston.
No, that's only two stats.
Give me the, give me their stats.
I got it.
I've got all three games.
Give me the season long stats.
Go ahead.
Keenan Island leads and targets, 28 targets, 19 catches, 194 yards, three touchdowns.
One in each game.
He's been marvelous.
Quentin Johnson, 24 targets, 14 catches, 239 yards.
He also has three touchdowns.
Did not score this week, Boohoo 14.9 PPR points.
Ladd McConkey, three games, 21 targets, 15 catches.
163 yards,
zero touchdowns.
So rank them rest of season.
You have to.
We're all hesitating.
We want to put McCona.
Ladd,
Kenan, Quentin.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's kind of what we're conditioned to say.
It certainly looks like Ladd is.
the best receiver of the three but it's not by a big margin like they're all very tight together
i think you've got any one of the three you've got a starter for your fantasy team all right buy or
sell quin shan judkins is the best rookie running back going forward hi jamie that's a good one
it's a really good one so i'm going to sell i'll sell if i get the field yeah no that's fair um
Jamie, why are you selling that?
Quinshawn Judkins is the best rookie running back going forward.
Because Hampton is now in that spot with the injury to Najee Harris.
Are we not even thinking Genty?
Not at the moment.
What a bummer.
All right.
Buy or sell.
You should sell high on AJ Brown right now.
So?
Sell.
So.
You know why I'm saying it, though, right?
because they were trailing big in this game.
Finally, it unleashed something,
but they're so conservative when they can be,
which should be most weeks.
He looks awesome.
I will say this, though,
if Lane Johnson is out,
their offense could be a little bit tough to trust
from a run perspective to the same degree.
Take one hit the wall.
No good anymore.
All right, so we'll just stick it out with AJ Brown.
He gets Tampa Bay next week,
hopefully a shoot out there.
Yes, he did look.
He looked insanely good.
so at least we can think he's not
injured in any way.
Buy or sell, sell high on,
I put the bears here,
but I think it would really be Caleb Williams
and Romo Dunzee.
You should sell high on Caleb Williams
and Romo Dunzee right now.
Sell.
I would sell Caleb.
I would be selling O'Donzee
for something awesome only.
Agreed.
I think Caleb might be a top five
fantasy quarterback.
And this was a little bit confusing the way I did it.
I'm sorry.
Yes, when we say sell, when I say you should sell A.J. Brown and they say sell, it means you should not sell A.J. Brown.
And when I say you should sell Caleb Williams and Romo Dundsay, and they say sell, it means you should not sell them.
So I almost think that Heath could come up with some sort of version of this that could help us separate with all the buys and cells that you have.
I just, I don't know what we'd call it.
But we'll think of something.
We'll take a break.
And we'll come back and give you some winners and losers, early look at the Waver Wire,
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Okay, Twitter poll.
Who would you rather have rest of season?
Trey Benson or Chase Brown, PPR, 70% for Benson, 30% for Chase Brown.
Jamie, since you're just joining us before we get into the rest of the news and notes,
give me your thoughts on a huge day in fantasy, unfortunately, with these injuries.
Trey Benson and Omari and Hampton with big opportunities.
Hampton looked great, you know, took advantage of the situation and hopefully the sign of
things to come. I love that they were throwing in the ball, and hopefully that
continues.
Benson is going to be the one
that I think is a wild card here just because
how much will they
just put all of it on his plate
or will they put all of on his plate? But
clearly a big opportunity and
should be roster in every league.
Would you rather have, what round
if we were drafting today? Like, what round do you think?
Oh, are you there, Jamie? What round would
you think, Trey Benson? Sorry, that's
okay.
Like a round three,
four kind of player.
What do you think for Benson?
I'm sorry.
Round four at the earliest.
Under the assumption,
Connor's out for the year.
You're saying round four at the earliest.
Yeah,
I mean,
we were drafting Connor in that range
at the earliest,
and I don't think Benson
is as polished a player
as James Connor.
That's probably an obvious statement.
And so, again,
will they give it all to him?
You know,
Di Mercado had a bad drop in the game.
You know,
so we'll see if he's the third downback,
you know,
who knows what they're going to do
to try and enhance their backfield
because they're not going with just the current group of guys that they have there.
So, I mean, I hope it's Benson.
You know, that's a great opportunity for them.
All right.
Back to the rest of the news and notes here.
Travis, ETN had a touchdown today, but it was, I think we should not count it in fantasy
because they let them score.
And this time, I'm sure of it.
Yeah.
Nico Collins, you know, Nico Collins ended up with a pretty big day.
It was pretty lucky.
Busted coverage, 50-yard touchdown.
We've got so many guys.
that we liked
that were terrible
let's not
poo-poo the guys
that were good
I think it's important
though to note
that it wasn't
Yeah that offense stinks
Yeah that offense stinks
I mean
Who's worse
CJ Stroud or Trevor Lawrence
Lawrence?
Lawrence. He's horrible
I think Lawrence
stinks more
because Stroud
has less help
at the moment
like the offensive line
is such a disaster
the run game
is such a disaster
I think if they're
both in ideal
situation
Stroud would be better. If Stroud were on Jacksonville right now, would he be better than
Trevor Lawrence? Yes, I think so. I think you have to say yes. I think so. I think so.
Alec Pierce left with a concussion. Diami Brown, Jacksonville, left with a shoulder injury.
Tight end news. Colston Loveland left with a hip injury in the first half. Only one target in
this game for Cole Comet. Michael Mayer left in the first quarter. Jatavian Sanders left
in the second half with an ankle injury. Big offensive line news would be Lane Johnson.
as Jamie mentioned, the Eagles right tackle.
I remember a few years ago,
he missed a, I feel like he missed a few games,
and they did struggle a little bit.
Green Bay offensive tackle,
Green Bay lost two offensive linemen,
Zach Tom, who came into the game,
banged up, and Aaron Banks,
a tackle and a guard.
Banks was banged up, too?
Oh, yeah, they haven't been pretty banged up.
They, well, they'll throw up 40 next week at Dallas.
Cleveland offensive tackle,
DeWan Jones left in the first half,
Chargers guard, Mikai Beckton,
left with a concussion,
and Bengals Guard, Dalton Ristner left in the second half.
On defense, we did have some big, big time injuries here.
Sauce Gardner head injury, Derek Stingley, injured ribs, Trayvon Diggs left with an injury.
Washington's starting safety, Will Harris, broke his leg.
Minnesota defensive tackle, Javon Hargrave, left with an injury.
Nick Bosa, that might be the biggest one.
Sorry for burying the lead there, but Nick Bosa left in the first half for the 49ers.
They're getting Jacksonville next week, and they only gave up 13 points, was it 16, 13 was the final there?
And Tampa Bay defensive back, Christianizian, left with a quad injury.
Jamie, have you started working on the waiver wire notes yet?
I have.
I don't have in front of me, though, unfortunately.
Sorry.
Any names?
I like I say some of the names.
A lot of quarterbacks.
A lot of quarterbacks.
What we got?
Well, the running back's not, there's not a lot of great options.
I'm trying to remember who.
Tysay Spears is definitely on the list.
Jeremy Nichols is on the list.
Ali Gordon's on the list.
It's not a great list of running backs there.
Receivers, I would still look at Christian Kirk.
I know he didn't have a great game, but he had eight targets.
Obviously, Trey Tucker, he's going to be the headliner.
You know, we'll see how he comes out once I do my rankings.
I don't know how everybody else will feel about it,
but, you know, this is a receiving core that feels like it's a little bit in flux right now.
And the way that Gino Smith is throwing the ball.
But the quarterbacks really are the ones that I think you're looking at.
Again, you know, just based on how the position is unfolding.
Geno Smith with a great matchup this week, my God, going into week four,
coming off the game
that he just had.
Mariotta again, if he starts.
Carson Wentz against the Steelers.
If he's, well, he's going to start.
And then the tight ends, you know,
you mentioned the Loveland injury.
Commet has a good matchup going into next week.
We'll see how he does.
I don't have everything in front of me, though.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, that's okay. That's okay.
But you know what we will do?
When we do Express on Monday,
we will have it all that.
We sure will.
Winners and losers.
Okay, Dave already went through his winners,
Quinn Sean Judkins and Omari and Hampton.
Jamie's got two Vikings.
What a day for the Minnesota Vikings.
The Minnesota Vikings.
Jordan Mason and T.J. Hawkinson,
Mason with 16 carries, 116 yards, and two touchdowns.
Hawkinson five catches 49 yards and a touchdown on six targets,
and they barely threw in this game.
So how much confidence do you have in them,
Jamie, going forward at Pittsburgh, at Cleveland,
and then a buy?
A lot of confidence against Pittsburgh, you know, based on how he played today and getting Darrasaw back was huge.
So I wonder if it's a game where maybe more competitive, does he have an opportunity to catch the ball at all?
Carson wins only threw the ball 20 times a day.
So, but this was what you hope for, you know, every time he gets, going back to now the last seven games, 14 or more touches.
he's been over 15 PPR points
or averaged more than 15 PPR points per game.
So this was as good as it gets
for a guy that didn't have any work in the passing game.
Yeah, that's Mason.
Now, Hawkinson, they're going to get Addison back next week.
So what are we thinking in regards to that?
Well, again, this is Carson Wentz.
This is what he does.
He throws to his tight ends.
He threw two touchdowns to his tight ends today.
So this is the kind of quarterback that he is.
And as long as he's going to start,
I think Hawkinson remains in play.
So I think he can average six targets per game.
I think he can catch five passes a game.
I think he can get 49 or more yards a game.
Will he score?
You know,
this is his first touchdown in the regular season since 2023.
He had a touchdown in the playoffs last year.
That's right.
You know,
didn't score it all in the regular season last year coming back from the ACL tear.
But, you know, based on the tight end play at this point,
like there's been a lot of up and down performances at the position.
You know, I don't know how many people will value him more or less.
And again, I haven't, you know,
done complete rankings yet started to do the early tight-end rankings but like hunter henry
versus t j hawkinson at this point you know two two pretty solid games for henry one solid
game for hawkinson but the first with this quarterback you know um it's just encouraging to see
that he performed this level last question we'll move on and for all of you guys do you think
carson wince can permanently take this job you know for the rest of this year from j jay mccarthy
or do you think when mccarthy's healthy he will with basically with
without question be the starter.
I asked P. Priscoe this, watching the game, and he said pretty adamantly no, that when McCarthy's healthy, he's back as the starter.
I would think that if he goes undefeated, Wentz, that they will push McCarthy's injury down the line as long as they can.
And then if Wentz turns into Wentz, they throw McCarthy back in there when he's 100% healthy.
all right heath your winners are hold on your winners are
pitman and tray tucker second time in tray tucker's career he's had
consecutive games with a target per out run rate of 18% or higher and he scored 40 points
today with eight catches 145 yards three touchdowns on nine targets but let's start with
pitman six for 73 and a touchdown on six targets
And that doesn't sound that impressive
Except they threw 25 times
And they threw for 228 yards
Right, I was going to say
I think you might have the wrong colts
As one of your winners
Jonathan Taylor
I thought maybe
I know he didn't score that many
Well he was already a must start running back
I didn't like
No I thought maybe he didn't score
That many fantasy points
I thought maybe you were going to come around
On Daniel Jones
No I mean he had 17 fantasy points
This is a fantasy football show
Okay
Okay
Pitman
Um
Yeah pit man
Like, week one, he was clearly the top target over Josh Downs.
Week two, it was Josh Downs.
Week three, it was Pittman again.
And I think you feel a little bit better about him being the number one option in this past offense.
And he clearly has a great connection with Daniel Jones, who is playing much better than I expected.
And you should call him Indiana Jones.
I'm sorry if you just said this.
But Michael Pittman, please tell me you didn't say this.
Should have had a touchdown in all three games.
Did you say that?
no okay ran a crossing route got open throw was maybe a little bit low but he almost had a
touchdown last week um okay and then trey tucker are we really going to buy into this well i think
it's interesting because like there's something positive to take from all three of trey tucker's games
week one he only had three targets but he had the long touchdown had two catches for 54 yards
scored 13 fantasy points last week against the chargers he had eight targets he just didn't
have a good game and this was the first game where he had a lot of targets and this was the first game where he had a lot
of targets and he had a good game at the very least he's going to be one of the top ads off
the waiver wire because you can't leave a guy that goes eight for one forty five and three
touchdowns on the waiver wire so that's a big winner to go from somebody we were all ignoring
to somebody that everybody's not maybe not everybody but a lot of people are adding and he gets the
bears true yeah that's the biggest reason I I wonder if we have a Brock Bowers problem because
of Jacoby Myers and now Trey Tucker
and Gino Smith, not
saying, oh, there's that guy.
Let me throw to him.
No, I wonder how healthy Rock Bowers is.
They said today on the broadcast,
he's still wearing the brace.
Yeah.
I just don't know.
I mean, the first three quarters of the season,
he had a 30% target share.
And then he's basically been an afterthought
the last two weeks.
All right.
Let's go to our losers here.
Well, I guess we could talk about when you get to the game.
But like you have, let's say you picked up John Johnson when you saw Brock Bowers was injured.
Who he's starting next week?
Bowers against the bear.
Without question because it's the Bears.
But if it wasn't the Bears, that way.
No, I take Bowers.
I mean, we're not there yet, right?
I'm not saying it's for anybody.
It's for the guy that's been fantastic through three games.
Johnson wasn't so great today, was he?
What do you have, like 10 points?
Am I wrong?
I think it was that 11?
I think he still had, what, eight targets?
six for 51 yeah right a big catch kind of helped them out late all right let's go to the losers
here jerry judy and jacori kroski merit are the losers for heath judy with one catch for
17 yards on five targets and bill had eight carries 26 yards and a touchdown and one catch
against the raiders why are they losers um jerry judy because he's terrible he did have a pass
interference in the end zone but he also dropped it um the browns have four players right now
with a 15.5% target share or higher
and zero players with a 19% target share.
Joe Flacco is spreading the ball around like crazy
and it's difficult to guess on a week-to-week basis
which one it's going to be.
And it stinks and Jerry Judy's playing terribly.
Yeah, I was going to say is he dropped.
He might get dropped in some 12-team leagues.
Would you pick him up if it got dropped?
And then he'll probably go have eight catches
for 140 yards and two touchdowns
because that's what Jerry Judy has done in the best.
If you saw him on waivers, would he be an automatic ad for you?
It would depend on my roster, not automatic.
Okay.
Like, not like blind.
And then, like, Bill comes out and is on the bench to start the game.
And it's Chris Rodriguez.
And then Jeremy McNichols has a huge run for a touchdown.
By the way, this is it?
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Bill is not the clear starting running back for the Washington commanders.
he's not yet he hasn't been the starter at any point so far the season i don't know how many first
quarter snaps he's even played and he wasn't particularly good today he wasn't 3.3 yards per carry
got saved by the touchdowns uh he had a catch that's kind of good for him i guess he was their
least efficient rusher kind of an accident and deba was back in the running game with three
carries for 18 yards how injured in mcclorn we don't know we haven't seen anything
All right, so
stay patient with Bill Kroski Merritt,
he started in 49% of leagues.
Jerry Judy was only started in 25% of leagues.
I mean, the one thing we, this was the Packers.
Right.
The last two games, he gave you between 9.1 and 11.6 PPR fantasy points,
which stinks, but it doesn't necessarily bury you.
This game, 2.7 fantasy points buries you.
But, you know, it was the Packers.
They are amazing.
Did you guys know the Browns won the game?
Yep.
Wouldn't we have like three blocked field goals in a 12-minute span or something?
Yeah, it was wild.
There's five for the day.
All right, Jamie, your losers are Jordan Love.
You pick two guys who are going to be the conference players of the week next week.
Jordan Love gets the Cowboys and Ash and Jenty.
I'm just kidding.
Ashton Jente gets the Bears.
But you're right.
They were losers today.
13 points for Love and 6.3 fantasy points for Genti.
17 carries, no catches.
Love was just under duress the entire day.
His offensive line was not doing many.
favor. So the only thing that's a little concerning is he hasn't been great fantasy wise the first
two weeks of the season. And he's just, he's dealing with a lot of injuries right now. I mean,
you know, Jaden reads out. And Tucker Kraft, you know, you mentioned Heath about Brock Bowers,
like, how healthy is he? How healthy was Tucker Kraft today? So I'm a little worried. And the one
thing that we haven't seen, which we were hoping for is he's still not running. You know,
he's still not giving you that extra boost that we thought might happen because he was healthy.
Remember last year, the knee injury, the groin injury,
and maybe that was the reason why he's not running.
So I'd like to see him use his legs a little bit more.
I thought that might have been the case today just to, you know,
move him around in the pocket a little bit.
But, yes, there's plenty of bounce back potential next week against Dallas.
And in the case of Genti, like, we have a problem here.
Like, this is just bad at this point, you know.
And the more that they talk about it, the less that it seems like they're trying to fix it.
Because all those zeros, if you're watching on our YouTube channel,
the fact that he's not involved in the passing game,
is extremely, extremely problematic
because he has that in his game.
They have to find a way to get him some easy touches
and easy getting the ball in space.
Like it's just trying to have him run behind
that offensive line as bad as it is.
It's just not working right now.
Okay.
So you're taking Hampton over Genti rest of season.
Going into week four, yeah.
Taking Judkins over Gentie?
Going into week four, yes.
I'll wait until I see Gentie.
They get the Bears next week, you said?
Yeah.
I'll wait until I see Gentie against the Bears.
Joe Boo Week for Gentie.
By the way, YouTube poll.
I'm not sitting Gentie.
Don't make that mistake, but like rest of season,
the way these other two guys look and situations right now.
All right.
YouTube poll, who would you rather have if James Conner's out for the season?
Trey Benson or Ladd McConkey, 740 votes.
Two-thirds of them are saying Trey Benson.
Wow.
But on my Twitter poll, it's like basic, it's not,
it's McConkey is winning.
All right, and Dave's losers.
Yeah.
All right, first of all, I want to say something because I keep forgetting,
and it's 35 minutes into the show.
The Patriots running backs fumbled three times this week.
That's the other thing that might change the fantasy football landscape.
We will talk about that soon.
Travion Henderson got nine carries after Antonio Gibson's fumble.
So, Ramandre fumbled twice.
Gibson fumbled once, and then Travian Henderson came in, played a lot, and sucked.
But that's another thing that could change things in the fantasy landscape.
And another thing would be if Brian Thomas Jr. ever did anything.
But Derek Stingley got hurt in the first half, if not the first quarter of this game.
And Brian Thomas Jr. did nothing until a late, long catch.
And he had two catches for 55 yards.
He's a loser for Dave and Chase Brown, we already talked about.
But Brian Thomas Jr., what on earth is going on here?
It's a lack of connection with Trevor Lawrence.
It's an injury that might keep him from going all out play after play.
it's a Jacksonville offense that is okay running the ball,
but they haven't been able to get it going throwing the ball.
And we can no longer look at BTJ and say,
all right,
this is somebody who is a slam dunk,
must start top 15 overall pick type of player.
The number stink.
I don't even know if we'd take him in round three at this point.
We probably wouldn't.
And it's not all on him entirely.
It's hard when you're playing hurt.
I don't want to question his effort.
We kind of did that after last week.
But Lawrence is a problem.
Other pass catchers in this offense aren't that big of a problem.
De Ami Brown got hurt.
He still didn't do a ton.
Still only had six targets.
You've got to be worried after three weeks with BTJ.
So there's some things going on there with him, apparently,
that, you know, seem to be an issue that maybe we'll find out about.
I think you see Parker Washington is somebody that they really like.
11 targets for him today, so he's getting a lot more attention, I think, than a lot of people expected.
The concern would be is that not only whatever's going on with Thomas is that Trevor Lawrence and Thomas are not on the same page.
And he, I don't want to say he's somebody you have to bench at this point because you know what the upside is and you know that at some point there's going to be a stretch of games where he gets hot.
But if your team is very good at wide receiver, like you're not benching him for Trey Tucker, for example, but if your team is really good at receiver, so you got Ricky Pierce,
Saul and Tederoa and McMillan and some of these guys that have had good weeks and now maybe
a Bucca with a Mike Evans injury like all these guys were drafted after Brian Thomas. You're
probably benching Brian Thomas. He doesn't have a double digit PPR point game yet this year.
You could bench him for all three chargers receivers.
You could bench for all three charges receivers. It gets 49ers next week. All right.
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I don't know if there's anything that really stood out at the goal line.
We did see Chris Rodriguez get some goal line carries.
We did see Jacori-Crossi Merritt get a one-yard touchdown run.
We saw Rico Dowdell mix in near the goal line, which was weird,
and he got a one-yard touchdown run.
Jalen Warren had two goal-to-go carries in the first quarter,
couldn't get in.
Then after a defensive pass interference,
they had first-in-goal from the one,
and Kenneth Gainwell scored the touchdown.
That was a little annoying.
Miles Sanders got some work near the goal line.
I still think Javante is the most likely guy there.
So there's that.
Kyle Monong, I should never play inside the 10-yard line.
Because he ran backwards?
Yeah, that was awful.
Ramandre Stevenson, almost touchdowns.
Ramandre Stevenson fumbled going into the end zone,
and then he's basically benched after that.
But he did come back during their most important drive of the game.
He came back for their last drive.
So that should tell you something.
It's very telling.
Kyron Williams had a touchdown call back on a holding penalty.
Jerry Judy, I said kind of nearly had a touchdown.
Heath talked about that.
It was like pass interference, but he still dropped.
it. Tara McClureen came up a yard short of a 57-yard touchdown. Then Jacori-Crosky
Merritt scored two plays later. Marvin Harrison had a bad game. He almost had a huge game.
He was wide open for a ball that would have been a chunk play and he dropped it. Then he dropped
the ball in the end zone. But that one was, the first one was the like, how can you drop that?
The second one was a tough one. Marvin, Bo Nix almost had a huge game. He had two deep balls to
Marvin Mims that were incomplete. One of them in the end zone. And one to Sutton.
Yeah, he's not throwing deep ball as well.
Big one to Sutton at the end there.
And then there was a pass to J.K. Dobbins that was technically behind.
It was a lateral.
So it was a run.
It was a 19-yard touchdown for Dobbins.
That was almost the pass.
So Ponex was flirting with a big game.
The throw to Sutton, we have DirecTV at the office.
It froze.
What happened?
While the ball in midair.
That's fun.
It's a fun game to play if you, like, pause the game.
I used to do this with free throws or three-pointers.
I'd pause and be like, what do we think?
You'd make it or miss it?
I just kind of chel by the trajectory.
Great game.
I would punch you so long.
You're fun to watch.
Everyone's got to be on board with it, though.
All right, Heath, here we go.
Carolina 30, Atlanta, zero.
This was a weird, what a wacky football day.
30-0 Panthers over Falcons.
Drake London has a Michael Pennix problem.
Believe it.
Go on.
I think the Falcons have a Michael Panics problem.
Yeah, 172 yards, no touchdowns.
Two picks.
Second one, not necessarily his fault.
Oh, they were awful throws.
Well, his receiver fell down, though, on the second one.
He shouldn't have thrown it anyway, but his receiver fell down.
Quarterback controversy?
What did you say?
Quarterback controversy.
Not yet.
You want a bold prediction?
Kirk Cousins is going to be the Bengals quarterback in the next three weeks.
The Falcons can't trade Kirk Cousins.
Yeah.
They might need to start him in two weeks.
All right. Well, anyway, talk more about this Drake London, Michael Pennock's problem and how you value Drake London.
I've started on my rankings for next week, and I think he was like wide receiver 17.
He has averaging nine targets per game, and he's averaging about 54 yards per game.
Pennix cannot get them into the end zone through the year.
And he's not getting the 15 targets per game with Mooney and.
Pitt's both there.
Let me,
here you go, ready?
Drake London versus Ashton Gentie,
Omari and Hampton,
and Trey Benson.
Where would you rank London?
Second.
Second.
Hampton first.
Second,
but he's moving down
like at about the same rate,
a little bit slower than Gentie is,
but not a lot.
London or Brian Thomas,
what do you do with Drake and London?
I'm sorry to interrupt.
If he has a bad,
game next week against Washington, which just allowed three touchdowns to
Trey Tucker, different type of receiver, obviously.
But Balkans go into their buy after that game.
One more stinker from Drake London, and you're probably relieved that you don't
have to start him.
Yeah, for one week.
And then I would be buying low on him if you can't.
I'd be buying low on him if you can because if cousins does start, that's a big boost.
I still think there's so many targets there, you know, you could think about just buying
low on him now.
I don't know.
Would you trade Quentin Johnson for Drake?
Drake London?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Giants have a kicker issue.
Would you trade Keenan Allen for Drake London?
Yep.
What do you mean?
I think I would do, but that one made me pause for a second.
Okay.
So to the Panthers then.
Nothing much to say here.
I mean, they only threw 24 passes.
Bryce Young only threw 24 passes.
So I think business as usual for them, start Hubbard, start.
Are we worried about Hubbard here?
No, he's fine.
He hasn't been great.
He's gotten, you've gotten saved by some touchdowns.
And so the nice thing is, is that he's, I think, a very solid number two running back.
But I don't think there's, right now, especially with the offense line injuries.
I don't think there's the upside to crack top top.
All right, guys.
Let's go to our next game.
He was a half yard away from a touchdown.
He had a catch that he was down just before the goal line.
and then Rico Dowdell came in and stole the touchdown.
Cleveland 13 and Green Bay 10.
Matthew Golden is ascending
and will be the best Packers' wide receiver rest of season.
I believe it,
but I don't think it means that he's going to be amazing
for fantasy on a consistent basis.
I believe both of those statements.
Well, okay, but do you,
do you agree with what Dave said that he won't be amazing for is that what you were saying you agree
with Dave yes I agree with both I think that golden will be the best receiver but I don't think he's
going to be a startable fantasy receiver on a week-to-week basis or a boom bus flex type he might be right
okay he had a big big catch in this game saved his bacon a little bit it was good to see him get
going a little bit especially in a game where tough defense and love was struggling but brown's defense is
were so good.
Yeah.
I know the Packer's
defense is amazing,
but the Browns are so good.
There's two teams
that might be missing a third,
but the Texans and the Browns defenses
are getting wasted.
Yeah.
Texans are 0.3.
The Texans are 0.13.
I can't believe that.
We went through their schedule.
Like,
you can see a path
where they maybe win five games.
Amen.
All right.
Let's go to...
By the way,
the book on Jordan Love
is when he's pressured,
he falls apart.
It's like most.
quarterbacks. I say this every time. And that's what the Browns did today. Cowboys aren't
going to be able to do that to him next week. You're starting Jordan Love next week.
Josh Jacobs, you know, we talked about it on the pregame show this morning that he's getting,
he had one target coming into the game, I think. He had nine in this game, but he is struggling.
This was a tough matchup for him. He's just one of those guys that you put in your lineup and
the touchdown should come. Hopefully the rushing average will get better. Two great defenses
today. I think it was just reflected in the in the outcome and the fantasy production.
And, oh, Cedric Tillman, better than Jerry Judy.
That's six of the last seven.
He's 46% roster.
Do you think it's a good roster percentage for Cedric Tillman?
Or you think that porridge is too hot, too cold, or just right?
What did Cedric Chilman have today?
Like four or five points.
PR points.
I mean, if he stepped on the field, he was basically better than Jerry Judy.
He did.
They were both terrible.
Like, Cedricleman was awful today.
So you can make an argument that all four Brown's pass catchers can be dropped.
Yeah.
I wouldn't do it, but you can make an argument for it.
Easier to do it with the wide receivers, obviously.
Well, I mean, Fanon is droppable.
I don't want to do it, but he's drovable.
Yeah.
He might be the one guy I want to hang on to long term.
There's definitely a lot of upside there.
But, I mean, we're talking about,
what do you have, seven for 40, for 50s to the first week?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
And Flacco's thrown how many touchdowns on the season so far?
one I don't even know
I just don't think I'm going to drop a rookie tight end
that had that many targets the first two weeks
I'm not saying against the packers
two touchdowns let's go on
let's move to our next game we got two touchdowns for flacko this year
but you're still talking about a guy that's not rostered in more than 60%
of leagues at this point like people are going to see what hunter henry's doing
and you know these tight ends and they're going to pivot I get it
all right let's go Cincinnati at Minnesota
what do we got Cincinnati with a
Minnesota with a 4810 win
you should buy low on both bingles wide receivers
it won't be this bad
believe it
believe it
but maybe wait one more week
because they play the Broncos next week
I really think we need to talk about
like Chase yeah
but Higgins
he just they don't
Browning and him just don't
do it when Chase is on the field
you guys
I mean a long touchdown last week
yeah but it doesn't get the targets though
all right i won't i won't dispute it
there's a definite concern
obviously when you see what that just happened to them
you know like you can't you can't get away from it
what the chiefs do heath
oh yeah four the giants went forward on fourth down
chris jones bats down a russell wilson pass
um
shut i don't think you're you can't sell t higgins right now
because you're not getting fair value in return
you shouldn't be starting him right now
because of the point of broncos next week all right
You know, the schedule does not get easier for them even after next week.
They've got like one of the toughest, they've got Detroit and Green Bay after Denver.
Detroit doesn't worry me.
Detroit feels like a trip to Aruba at this point.
But it's, this whole team's going to Cabo anyway by the time you get to December.
Jacksonville 17, Houston 10.
Travis Hunter is dropable.
Redraft, yeah.
Believe it.
I just can't believe that you've got Brian Thomas Jr.
and Travis Hunter on the team
and you throw the ball 11 times
to Parker Washington
for 34 yards.
He's the only one that's trying to catch the ball
at this point.
35 of 66 offensive snaps
for Travis Hunter today.
Forget about fantasy.
They need to make a decision
and play him on one side of the ball.
This is not working.
Oh, you cannot do that.
It's three games in his career.
That would almost be a betrashy.
trail of him for two. Why? Because they, that's, they drafted him under the pretense that he was
going to play both sides of the ball. I think it's a little early to give up on this. Sure looks like
they needed more on offense than defense right now. Absolutely. All right, let's, let's do this because
I kind of skipped over Justin Jefferson from last game and Jefferson's had an okay start to the fantasy
season, but not set in the world on fire. He had five for 75 on seven targets today. So let's go
through the first and second round wide receivers and how, how we're feeling.
about them.
So hold on.
Let me pull up 80p
so I don't miss anyone.
But obviously,
Jamar Chase.
We're breaking out the
Moriometer for top 24.
Yeah, you want to do
worryometer?
We can do that.
Worryometer is zero to 10.
10 is, I'm freaking out.
Zero is,
he's the best.
Jamar Chase.
Zero.
10 from where I thought.
Zero from where I'm starting or sitting.
Yeah, but it's not about start or sit,
I think, because let's sort of incorporate
the rest of season value.
so all right rest of season value round round so you tell me instead of worryometer let's do is he
a round one pick around two pick around three pick or later jemar chase oh round one round one late round
one cd lamb when he's healthy round one round one maybe the number one wide receiver yes the
101 um justin jefferson round two round two round two round one i want to see another game with carson
competitive.
I'm really curious what they're.
That should be my believe it or not.
It's like, and this was a, we didn't find anything out in this game, but they were
so run heavy the first two weeks.
And then, of course, they're run heavy in this game because their defense scores two
touchdowns.
Malik neighbors, he's playing right now, but we feel good about him.
Ammonroe St. Brown.
First rounder.
First rounder.
He's probably for sure.
Jamie went back to the worryometer.
Nico Collins.
Still first round.
Yep, or second rounder at the turn.
Yeah, I can't put him in the first round.
He just, that offense.
There's not, we're just going to draft like three wide receivers in the first round.
Pooka has to be at this point, me.
The first rounder.
Brian Thomas Jr.
10.
Round four.
Round 10.
Round four for Heath.
All right.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Drake London.
Three.
He's in that round three, four range two.
A.J. Brown. Oh, sorry.
Sorry. Go ahead, Jamie. Drake London.
I'm not going to be surprised there's a quarterback change and things just turn around from quickly.
AJ Brown.
I'd be surprised if there's a quarterback change.
Second round.
Second round. Yeah.
Okay. Are we buying Travis E.T.N. rest of season?
Real quick on that.
Tewton looks so much better.
The best run that E.T.N. has when they let them score.
I know.
I mean, relative to the other low-end R-B-2s, yes, I'm buying it.
All right.
Indianapolis, 41, Tennessee 20.
You don't want to break down Nick Chubb's game?
I would love to, but we'll be here two hours.
Believe it or not, what are we on Indianapolis, Tennessee?
Yeah, yeah.
Daniel Jones, the top 12 quarterback rest of season.
Believe it.
not committing to it
don't believe it
Heath do you believe it yet
are you an Indiana Jones believe
no I laid it out
and he didn't quite keep it up
but he was very good
I said I'd move him into borderline
top 12 range if he was a
starter this week and he wasn't quite
and then if he's good at the Rams next week
well then you have to believe it
I will say this though just for the Titans defense
like they made Bownex look stupid in week one
they did a pretty good job
on Matthew Stafford for a good portion of that game.
And Daniel Jones, I thought, looked very solid once again.
Yeah, you did.
Full command of the office.
Eilke Eo Manor over Calvin Ridley rest of the season.
Believe it.
Kind of happened to get better.
Yeah, right.
Titans are eventually going to shift how they move those targets around.
Jamie made a good call on, uh, on IOM manner this morning.
And I was like, what?
Eric.
Really?
And he's like, yeah, it was good call.
Uh, Tony Power,
luckily he scored and Cam Ward threw a pass to Tony Pollard and it did go for a touchdown but it was to the other team and that's it for that game Philadelphia 33 and the Rams 26 instead of doing it believe it or not I think we should just talk about you know Dave and I were chatting during the game and he was like man Jalen Hertz looks rough and they went down big and I was like you know this could be what they need right and I think everybody probably felt that way let's make them throw but it's just not going to happen like this for the
them typically, you know? So do you try to capitalize on their value at its highest for
Hertz, I don't think so, but for Hertz, for Brown and for Devante Smith? I think for
Devante Smith, for sure. Okay. It was at least, if you didn't see the game. I mean,
Jamie said it first, AJ Brown looked so damn good. It was like, it was like he was taking like
one hand almost and just like that guy on the basketball court that holds it above
your head and you try to whack at it and then he moves the ball he was just like playing it
on a different level there was at least three passes where he was covered very well and just
his hands are so amazing yeah and he just takes the and then he makes a move and it's just like
you want to see more of that so we're we watch the games with former general manager ran carthon
and former Patriots running back he's most famous for that team damien harris and damien asked us
where does A.J. Brown rank in terms of receivers in the NFL.
And I gave my answer, Dave, we have his answer.
And Damien said, he's the best receiver in football if he ever got the opportunities.
Like, that's how good he is and what people around the league think of him.
Like, he's just so talented.
Now, you could debate, obviously, Chase and Jefferson, all those things.
Clearly, everybody's going to have their own opinion.
But, like, you just watch him play.
And when he does get these chances, like, you just see how good he is.
so you hope that you know you don't want to see lane johnson miss but what would we say this morning
they're so boring yeah and this was so much fun like this was this was a fun game to watch
just because of how the game the ebbs and flows of it based on how things are like jane herrs
was getting pummeled as soon as lane johnson left the game like he was just getting blasted
and they couldn't run the ball at all and if you go back to what our narrative was i'll speak for
myself my narrative was i know i know there was some you know shared thoughts from from the collective
that they were going to struggle to run the ball a little bit this year based on last year.
Not to this extent, not this badly,
but that they were going to have to throw the ball more, right?
We kind of said that.
And it played into how we felt about Brown and Smith and Goddard and even Jalen Hertz.
And this is what we wanted to see.
Like, they could do this.
They really can.
They could do whatever they want.
They could do whatever they want.
It's a great way to frame it.
They could do whatever they want.
And so it would be nice to see a little bit more balance
because they're so much fun to watch when they do this.
Last question.
about this game, what round would you draft Devante Adams in at this point?
I honestly think you could make a case for him as a first round pick.
He had the great touchdown catch and should have had another one.
It was great play by Blankenship, I think.
I think you're right, Blankenship.
But I wouldn't take him in the first round, but he would be, I think it's still
where he was drafted.
This thing is appropriate.
Yeah, round three.
Maybe late round two.
But Pook is an absolute maniac.
I know.
This was great for Kyrin.
It was great to see him play like that.
Kyrin looked terrific too, yeah.
Great game.
Great game.
Washington 41, Las Vegas 24.
The quietest 31 fantasy points in quarterback history.
It's so weird that Gino Smith threw for 289 and 3 in this game
because they got absolutely blasted.
He had a receiver that had 145 yards and three touchdown.
They just threw bombs to Trey Tucker.
Yeah.
What do you got for this one?
If I would have said to you guys before the game,
Gino's going for 289 and 3, you would have said,
what about the receiving core that bowers and jacobi would have had monster games yeah i mean
it's so so annoying Tucker had four catches for 98 yards and two touchdowns in the fourth quarter
wow all right so what do we got for this game being blown out we have talked about almost all of these
guys but you missed your cell high window on debo samuel not in mcclorence hurt right correct also
we didn't have jaden daniels today how many passes did mariotta throw couldn't have been many 21
You have a must-star quarterback if Jane Daniels is out again.
At Atlanta next week?
Yeah, yes.
Revenge game.
Yep.
Oh, all right.
It would be a real revenge game, I think, if he played against Arthur Smith and Pittsburgh.
And they're next.
Pittsburgh.
He just had one against Chip Kelly.
Pittsburgh.
He was on the Raiders, wasn't he?
Tripping?
Chip Kelly was on the Raiders or Mariotto was on the Raiders?
No, Mario was he?
Yeah, Mariotto spent two years on the Raiders.
I don't remember that at all.
He's got a lot of revenge games.
All right.
Pittsburgh 21 and New England, 14.
Pittsburgh only had the ball for 26 minutes and 47.
The Patriots completely gave this game away.
Gave it away.
Heath, what do we have from a fantasy standpoint?
Trivian Anderson is the second best rookie running back rest of season.
Don't believe it.
No, I don't think so.
I don't believe it or not.
I don't believe it because I think the Patriots are going to continue to botch this.
Look, he's got to do better than what he did today.
It's not all on them.
He's not doing enough with his opportunities.
Fair, you know?
Yeah, and almost every single snap after Ramandre's two fumbles and Gibson's one fumble.
You're redrafting the rookie running backs right now with your.
Hampton one, Gentie two, Judkins three.
Henderson.
I'm debating Bill versus Henderson.
I'd be Henderson way over.
And there's Tutton.
It has to be, I mean, like, Tudon.
Yeah, dude might be out of both those guys.
Yeah.
I think he is.
And then, like, I'll pick up Harvey on waivers after the draft.
I've got another one.
All the Patriots-wide receivers are dropable.
Oh, yeah.
Believe it.
Question, do you think, would you rather have Jalen Warren or Trayvion Henderson?
You should do you do the Drake May segment.
Oh, Mike is Disson Heath for Diss and Drake May.
Yeah, 22 points.
Mike wins.
Mike's two and one.
He could have such a big day to do.
He had a huge game.
He also could have thrown two interceptions.
They were both dropped.
And he did throw one, right?
He did.
And fumble?
Yep.
He's mistake.
Patriots gave him away.
He's mistake prone.
Five turn,
yeah, well, Jalen Warren or Trayvion Henderson, rest of season.
Warren, I think he should buy him right now.
Warren could be such a monster.
He's like, like you said, you know, he doesn't have the touchdown in the beginning
part of the game.
Like, he could, he's like on the cusp of like just,
being a stud
Tampa Bay
29 and the Jets
27
a wild finish
to this one
game winning
field goal
after the Jets
took a
crazy lead
with a
blocked field goal
of their own
that they
returned for a
touchdown
but Heath
the bucks
win by two
and what do we got?
You should
buy Brees Hall
don't believe
right now
nine carries
for 21 yards
four catches
for 31 yards
for Brees Hall
and you're saying
you should buy him
and Jamie says
he does not believe
that Dave
I don't mind buying him as long as it's at an appropriate price.
I just think that his value will be more a month from now than it is right now.
Dolphins, Cowboys, Broncos, Panthers, Bingles in the next five weeks for the Jets.
I love that.
That's a great call.
Yeah.
I guess I only saw a few of his carries, but he gained 21 yards.
One of them was a 17-yard run, I think.
Yes.
And I was like, damn, Breeze Hall.
looks good.
And then at the end of the game, I saw the box score.
He had four carries on his,
four yards on his other eight carries.
Does his reception stay up, though,
when Justin Fields is playing?
Right.
Should have better efficiency.
The offensive line's still good.
This was a tough matchup for him.
No, but Jamie's right.
He probably doesn't get four catches,
because he only had four catches
in the first two games of the season.
He probably doesn't get that with Fields.
Believe it or not,
a mecca,
Buka should have been the number one pick
in rookie drafts.
Believe it.
What a game he had.
He's such a stud.
That catch was ridiculous.
Yeah.
A little one-handed.
And I mean, we may get a week if God was not ready and Evans out of, hello target share.
What I don't get is you have Sauce Gardner shadowing Evans for much of the game.
And then they run a play like first and goal from the two or something like that.
And you don't have that.
That is Mike Evans' territory.
and you don't have Gardner on him,
and of course he scores a touchdown.
You deserve to lose when you do that.
All right.
We're going to take one more break.
Yeah, let's see what we got here.
The Chargers 23 and the Broncos 20.
Cortland Sutton's the top 15 wide receiver
rest of the season.
That's an easy, believe it.
He was basically a top 15 receiver
for most of us in drafting.
He was not throughout the week this week.
It was a tough matchup.
These are two good defenses, too.
Yeah.
He's really, he hits such a bad week last week.
It was very weird, but he bounced back nicely.
Did any of you guys worry, though?
No.
We had a lot of Cortland Sutton questions this morning.
No, no, I understand why the audience worried,
because Troy Franklin was great and Sutton sucked.
But, I mean, that's going to happen.
You guys, in general, buying or selling J.K. Dobbins.
He has scored in every game.
He has now scored more than 14 PPR fantasy points in every game.
I'd be selling just because of the injury track record.
I was going to say, I'll buy as long as he's healthy.
I'd be buying if I had Chase Brown.
What do you get?
Oh, interesting.
Brown over diamonds.
Right.
I need a running back who I can trust.
I can trust this guy.
So you're not selling Chase Brown for J.K. Dobbins.
That's what he just said.
I thought he wanted to add J.K. Dobbins to the roster.
I might want to try and give up something else.
and just keep Chase Brown on the bench and then start J.K. Dobbins until Chase Brown gets better.
I don't know if the Dobbins manager would take Chase Brown at this point.
So what do you think is start? I know it, but what do you think his start percentage was, J.K. Dobbins today?
37%. 37%. 45. 47. All right. We talked about the Chargers wide receivers. Is there anything else? Do you have to be my start of the week next week? Anything else. Do you drop or hold?
Troy Franklin, two catches for eight yards on four targets.
Hold.
Agreed.
All righty.
Seattle 44.
Would you rather have rest of season, Troy Franklin, Jerry Judy.
Jerry, Judy.
Judy.
Probably Judy.
But just an interesting development.
A Ronde Gadsden Jr. was active for the first time this year, and he had seven targets
for the chargers and five catches for 46 yards, 2% rostered tight end.
Seattle.
Herbert threw 47 times.
Okay, Seattle 44, New Orleans 13.
You should just make that sound and not worry about Alvin Camara.
It sucked, but he's fine.
Tough matchup.
I hate the targets back down again, but at least he had 18 carries.
I mean, he gets Buffalo next week.
Like, not going to be easy.
And it's not going to be great.
Chris Olave is going to set a record for lowest yards per target.
Chris Olavee has become Alvin Camaro.
I will say.
There's some actual truth to that.
Like that's part of Alvin Camara's target problem in two or three weeks.
But, you know, having Olave, I'm never, I feel almost comforted starting him.
He's a high floor guy in PPR or even half PPR.
And one of these days he'll have a good game, but he's just getting so many times.
He had a good game this week.
In full PBR he did, yeah.
But he's got, what, he's got 23,
37 targets in three games.
37 targets, 23 catches, 165 yards.
That's 7.2 yards per catch for Chrysle Lafey.
For the past, I don't know,
five years or so, whatever the case may be,
Alvin Camara's kind of been the poster child
for people who hate PPR.
Just put a Saints logo.
J.S.N, very good game.
Five catches, 90s,
yards and a touchdown and Cooper Cup, I think maybe we have to look at Cooper Cup and
say, when are the Seahawks going to have to throw?
Week 1, 23 pass attempts, he's horrible.
Week 2, 33 pass attempts, he's great.
This week, how many pass attempts for, I'm sorry, I know I should know this.
18 for Darnold.
18 for Darnold.
Yeah, so it wasn't a good setup for him.
This game was over in the first quarter.
Are you selling Ken Walker?
It's a pretty gross.
Pretty gross, fantastic fantasy day.
It's a pretty gross, fantastic fantasy.
day, and Charbonnet is going to be healthy at some point, and he's going to potentially get hurt at some point. And so, like, do you maximize the value now?
I kind of feel the same way. I would consider, yes. I feel the same way about him as I do ETN, though. It's like, there's so many of those RB2s that are just terrible, that who am I targeting with him? Would you rather have Ken Walker or Ashton Genti rest of season?
I'd probably still rather have Genti.
I would think that's a trade you can make right now.
How about Breece Hall or Ken Walker?
Probably Walker.
I'll take Walker.
Last one.
Brian Thomas Jr. or Ken Walker?
I was thinking that exact same one.
Walker.
Walker.
All right.
Let's take a break.
We got two games left.
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Okay, what do you got, Heath?
Ricky Pearsall is a must-start wide receiver no matter who gets healthy.
Believe it.
No, I don't believe it.
I don't believe it in a two-receiver league.
I want to see it with Brock Purdy again.
I mean, a little bit of an unknown right now of what this will look like with Purdy
and the two receivers at full strength and Kittle at full-string.
Right.
It's just that McCaffrey is just, does McCaffrey have 25 catches?
this point. I mean, he's getting 25 catches today. Yeah, he had 10 today. He's up to 25 on
the season. 25. I mean, it's just too many. I wish I could believe that because I think everyone
sees when Ricky Pearsall gets the ball, he's pretty good. But last week, Juan Jennings crushed
him and George Kittles barely played with him. And I just, I don't believe it. I actually was
going to say, you know, if I were doing it, it would have been by or so high. He's, you know,
Pierceall is a great sell high. He's definitely so high, can't it?
right because of all the things we laid out and he took on a cardinal's defense down two starters in the secondary
but the 40s that second half was amazing are never healthy we do this every year with these guys
well when everyone's not they're never healthy well you also had the factor in iu coming back to
while no one else is healthy iuk will come back to as well yeah oh man pierce all or brian tides
let's celebrate that who scored McBride yeah that was cool
Uh, Pearsall or Brian Thomas Jr.
Ooh, Peresaw.
I'll, I'll take the chance on BTJ.
I'll take BTJ.
Uh, thoughts on Marvin Harrison, Jr., guys?
What an awful awful drop.
Yeah.
But that's not him.
I mean, that's fluky.
He's a number three wide receiver who might score 20 fantasy points and he might score five.
That might have been a 40-yard reception.
Yeah.
I feel bad for him.
I really like him.
He's one of my favorite players.
He's never complaining about targets.
He's like, he was asked about it last week.
He's like, are you serious?
We don't care about that.
When I saw him on hard knocks in the Giants Hard Knocks,
he was the most, look, I don't know what the real Marvin Harrison Jr.
He was so humble.
And, you know, I think I just, I love him.
I'm rooting for him.
I really wish he would have caught the touchdown after the drop
because that would have been a hell of a catch.
Yeah, for sure.
All right, last game, Chicago 31 and Dallas 14.
you should hold
Dak Prescott
despite the fact
that he plays
the Packers this week.
I'll bite.
As opposed to what?
Dropping him?
I don't think
some people are going to.
I'd be surprised
if he got dropped.
He's throwing the ball so much.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, don't drop Dak.
He drops
Dak, right?
Like, he drops back.
Yeah.
So we're hoping that Lamb plays next week.
Thoughts on Giovante Williams.
He said he expects to play.
He said that, yeah.
I don't believe him.
I believe that he thinks he expects to play.
But I'm not going to just bank on it.
But, yeah, he expects to play.
He's, yeah.
So, Javante, 10 carries, Miles Sanders, nine carries.
Javent they played great.
They had the fumble, though, unfortunately.
Yeah, that part's on.
That was such a great play, my God.
Tyreek Stevenson.
Bro, it's all about the canes this week.
Javante, like, how are we feeling about?
him.
Fine.
Javante, I'd be very thrilled to have Javonte ones right now.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Are you,
yeah, I don't know.
I'm not sure I'm going to be super thrilled
to start him against the Packers next week.
Right, but those are two different conversations,
but to have them rostered, thrilled.
Absolutely.
And anything, anything you want to talk,
how do you feel about having D'Andre Swift?
who had, honestly, I know the Cowboys defense stinks.
I think they might have a good run defense.
I feel like they've been pretty good against the run.
I think Swift isn't a good runner.
DeAndre Swift will make one stupid play every game that you just wonder, like,
he had, it was a dump-off pass.
He ran into the middle instead of cutting outside.
We had so much real estate.
I don't understand some of the things he does.
I don't know, Heath, he were his biggest supporter.
How are you feeling about DeAndre Swift?
man, he's probably somewhere between R.B. 24 and 28 right now.
I think he's probably going to score between 10 and 12 points every week if he doesn't score a touchdown.
And he might score a little more than that if he does.
There was more of a rotation this week with Kyle Winongai, but he also does dumb stuff almost every week.
It's a little uneven because there's some teams that haven't played three games yet,
but he's currently R.B. 22 on a per game basis in full pieces.
He's very comfortable.
He's got a...
He is seven-tenths of a PPR point behind, Alvin Camara.
Can I tell you guys something that's making me really happy right now?
We're just going to send... Dave and I decided before the show.
I'm just going to send barbecue to Adam, and Dave's going to send pizza to Jamie, because all four players are terrible.
The four players are Camara, Swift,
Pacheco and...
No, Harrison and Judy.
Checo is yours.
Oh, I get what you're saying.
Yeah, no, I just want to tell you something that...
Just to end the show on a really positive note,
something that's just making me happy right now.
Kareem Hunt has each of the first three carries
for the Kansas City Chiefs tonight, so great...
Well, you've got to establish the run.
Yeah, he's just got all that long hair.
He runs so hard.
All right, folks.
Thank you so much for watching and listening.
And I hope your week three is going well.
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