Fantasy Football Today - Week 3 Recap: Pumped About Henderson? Done With Mixon? (09/27 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 28, 2020

Thankfully, injuries are not the story this week. Mike Davis, Darrell Henderson and Rex Burkhead most certainly are. So are the rookie WRs. Who are we adding on the waiver wire this week (4:26)? And l...et's run through the big injury news as well (7:10) ... Buy or Sell (11:30) with Russell Wilson, Josh Allen, Joe Mixon and more. Then we get Winners (22:00) like Justin Jefferson and Brandon Aiyuk and losers (28:50) like Carson Wentz and A.J. Green ... We wonder if some of the surprising top performers matter in Fantasy (34:16) and we review the Top 5 at each position (37:40) and go through each game with our Fantasy thoughts (45:15) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. All right, this is your week three recap with two games remaining. Welcome, everybody, to Fantasy Football today. Sunday night, Adam, Dave, and Heath here. About 8.15 Eastern as the Sunday night game's about to kick off.
Starting point is 00:01:36 We're going to talk about everything else. Right now, Russell Wilson is your QB1. Dave and Heath, do you want to take some guesses about who the leaders at the other positions are? I can take some guesses or I can just look. No, don't look. Don't look. I already did.
Starting point is 00:01:53 All right. I said Tyler. That could be Tyler Boyd. It could be one of the two. Okay. I'll go with the guy that had three touchdowns. All right. And then at running back, I think I know who it is.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Nope. I was wrong. You just looked again? I did, but I'm not going to say that it's Rex Burkhead. Oh, crap. I did it again. Stop cheating. What is this?
Starting point is 00:02:13 What kind of game is this? I can't think of a game that we should play today. Because, you know, the Sunday night show never has enough segments and it's never enough pre-work done for it. So the D dt emitter the dead to me meter the dead to meter uh who do you want to put on the dead to meter where is aj green on the dead to meter he's covered by darius slay that's where he is where is ty hilton on the dead to meter oh he's i'm telling you he's an eight them too much on
Starting point is 00:02:46 the dead meter they're gonna come right back on the zombie meter because they're gonna be coming out from the ground michael jackson video style and uh yeah they'll be thrillers again so you're that i think that like literally no one answered my question on either of the players i said it i said an eight i said an eight for hilton. 8 for Hilton. Like a 6 for Green. I really think Darius Slay had a big part of it. When I was able to hear a little bit of the broadcast during overtime, they alluded to, like,
Starting point is 00:03:14 don't throw at AJ Green anymore, who I think had three targets in overtime in his total of 6. So there was that. I'm going to say 5 for Green and 8 for Hilton, Heath. Okay, is that better? How about you?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Well, what does dead to me mean? Because I'm not dropping to you by Hilton. That's what I take it to mean. If they're dead to you, that means they're not on your fantasy team. Okay, you're right. You're burying them. All right, then. Abraham Lincoln is dead to me.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Ten would be dropping. Five would be benching. Okay, then three for Green, five for Hilton. Okay. Where's Joe Mixon on the dead to matter? Sounds like a dead tomato. I don't know. You guys tell me.
Starting point is 00:03:55 You're the fancy analysts. Oh, I don't know. I don't know if I feel great starting Joe Mixon. I mean, next week. Listen, next week is the week for all these Bengals. Yeah, against Jacksonville. Yep. Pretty sure that's a matchup.
Starting point is 00:04:09 That's it. Yep. Home against Jacksonville, correct? Yes. Yep. And then they're at Baltimore, at Indianapolis, then home against Cleveland, home against Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I'm hoping that they do well against Jacksonville so I can sell high and just get out of the Bengals business altogether. Okay. Well, we don't have an obvious headline today, I'd say. Maybe it's rookie wide receivers come alive. But thankfully, we didn't have quite as many injuries as we had last week. It felt like a little bit more of a normal week, I guess, in fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Did you just say normal? It felt a little bit more of a normal week, I guess, in fantasy football. If you're watching... Did you just say normal? It felt a little more normal. I... Rex Burkhead was the number one running back this week. I don't know. It just...
Starting point is 00:04:53 The first two weeks... Almost all of the tight ends were absolutely terrible. What did it take to be a top 10 tight end this week? Like, four catches for 12 yards? Kyle Rudolph had two catches for 12 yards? Kyle Rudolph had two catches for 11 yards and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Hayden Hurst had one catch for one yard and a touchdown, and he's going to finish three, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, tied for 12th going into the Sunday night game. And he's not even top 12 in PPR. That's obvious. He had one catch.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I don't know. Look, there's always going to be stuff like that. Look, put it this way. The waiver wire is not going to be as crazy as it has been after weeks one and two. With that, I ask you, who is your top waiver wire guy right now? It might be Rex
Starting point is 00:05:41 in effect. Rex. Okay. Rex Bur in effect. Rex. Okay. Rex Burkhead. Yes. I mean, we don't know what the injury is to Chris Carson. He got hurt real late in their win over Dallas. If he's out for a while, then Carlos Hyde and Travis Homer would come into play.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I mean, I don't know how many people are going to take Rex Burkhead's 13-touch, 3-touchdown game. Seriously. Well, and the problem is we think, we don't know this, but we don't think that James White's just done playing for the Patriots this year. Right, exactly. Right. He'll come back. Damian Harris is going to heal up.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Sony had over 100 yards. Yeah, all right. I mean, if Chris Carson has a serious injury, I think Carlos Hyde's going to be the guy. Probably. Not that people are going to get overly excited about Carlos Hyde. Jeff Wilson. No, yeah, McKinnon got hurt.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Yeah, but wins most are coming back. I mean, we know Tevin's not coming back for a while. That's right. So we could be looking at a running back group of Jeff Wilson and Jermichael Hasty next week for San Fran. And they'll win by 30 anyway. So Jeff Wilson's my number one waiver wire priority currently. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:55 They've got Philadelphia next week. I've already picked him up. I started him this week. Remember, I'm in a league where I'm against all the fellow industry nerds, and I had McCaffrey and Barkley. My running backs this week were Jeff Wilson and Rex Burkhead. I started Rex Burkhead in the telethon league.
Starting point is 00:07:10 That's fantastic. Good job, guys. You didn't play me in that league, did you? I played Andy Holloway, current champion. Oh, wow. Sorry, Andy. We're treating you poorly in our league by starting Rex Burkhead against you. That's how smart Heath is.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah, how about that? Genius. What was I going to say? Oh, yeah. So Wilson really wasn't that involved until late in the game. So it must have been partially that McKinnon injury or just that and the combination of garbage time
Starting point is 00:07:37 against a garbage team. Okay. So those are just some of the names. Obviously, we'll talk about it on Monday. We'll talk about it on Tuesday. Waver Wire is for another show. Watch watch us on youtube youtube.com slash fantasy football today check out fantasy football today in five that podcast drops six times a week first thing in the morning fantasy football today in five you can listen to us on apple podcast on
Starting point is 00:07:58 spotify on stitcher so many outlets and go to cbssports.com slash podcast and get a list of all of our shows we We have some great stuff. All things covered is this new one with Patrick Peterson joining Bryant McFadden. That's going to be really cool. Some news and notes for you. Josh Allen and Russell Wilson scored more fantasy points today than Sam Darnold has scored in his first three games combined.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Tariq Cohen may have torn his ACL and it does seem like every time a torn ACL is expected, it becomes a torn ACL. So plan on unfortunate news for Tariq Cohen, and he's likely out for the year. What would the impact be on the Bears' backfield? Still a lot of Montgomery, and Cordell Patterson will get to keep being a thing. There was more Patterson today than I would have liked,
Starting point is 00:08:47 but I do think this would be a little boost to David. It's weird to think of David Montgomery as a workhorse back on a three and O team. Why? Because we went into the year and he was on a terrible team and he was sharing all passing work with three Cohen. So it's like everything completely different than what we thought about david montgomery right yeah they're probably the most fraudulent 3-0 team in here well he's got a new quarterback nick foals taking over for mitchell trubisky and foals scored 23 fantasy points in like half the game and he had two touchdown passes that were overturned. One
Starting point is 00:09:25 was turned into an interception. So he, you know, I don't know if he played well. I understand he threw a couple balls that should have been picked, but he had a lot of fantasy points against the Colts next week. He was picked twice. Is that right? Or just once? Once. I think he had two or three dropped.
Starting point is 00:09:41 It was, I mean, it was a lot better than what Trubisky did in that first half. I thought it was weird that they did that when they did, but it worked out really well. Chris Godwin left with a hamstring injury. Mike Williams left with a hamstring injury. Chris Carson got hurt late and it did not look good. And they're at Miami next week.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Deontay Johnson left with a concussion. Jarek McKinnon injured ribs. Jordan Reed left with an ankle injury on an almost touchdown against the Giants. San Francisco cornerback Emmanuel Mosley left with an injury. They don't have to play in that stadium next week, do they? I think they're done. Okay, good. Dallas Goddard left with an ankle injury.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And Deshaun Jackson left with a hamstring injury. And that opened up some targets for Greg Ward, who had a big game. We had a lot of wide receivers like, who are these guys? Not who are these guys, but do they matter? That's a segment we have coming up later. I'm going to have to put
Starting point is 00:10:29 Greg Ward in there. That's the Cedric Wilson Memorial section. The official segment of Cedric Wilson. Huge game for the Cowboys. John Brown missed much of the second half with a calf injury. What did you think of that pass interference call
Starting point is 00:10:44 in the Rams game. I think the Rams are even now because they didn't deserve to beat the Cowboys, but one because of its fraudulent pass interference call. And that was one of the worst pass interference calls I've ever seen. I agree. Like it was absolutely awful, but how do they justify it? I don't,
Starting point is 00:11:05 I didn't, we don't have like a pool. There was a lot of contact though. Can't deny that. It was not that his hands. I was interested to see what they say. If they try to say it was a good call. Cause I,
Starting point is 00:11:18 you know, it was not a good call, at least in my view, but it wasn't like, uh, it wasn't like the Rams non-pass interference call against the Saints was the most obvious bad call ever. This at least had some question to it.
Starting point is 00:11:32 I thought, anyway. I think the only reason there was question is because they threw the flag. If they'd not thrown the flag, no one would have thought it was questionable whether it was pass interference, I don't think. Maybe like a holding or a legal contact or something. But all right. All right. Fair enough. Oh, fair enough a holding or a legal contact or something, but all right. All right. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Oh, fair enough. That's a drink. I gave my water. Dalvin cook cobbled off in the fourth quarter. I didn't see anything on that, but just he did. Um,
Starting point is 00:11:53 and the chargers put two starting defensive linemen on IR before the game, Melvin Ingram and Justin Jones, Ingram, a pass rusher, Jones, defensive tackle, chase young left with a groin injury. Russell gauge left with a head injury, Buffalo Russell Gage left with a head injury.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Buffalo safety Micah Hyde got hurt. Not sure if he returned. Philadelphia right tackle Jason Peters got hurt in overtime. They can't lose him. That'd be bad. Cleveland has a winning record for the first time in six seasons. Wow. And Pittsburgh fullback Derek Watt left with a hamstring injury.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Bengals wide receiver John Ross was a healthy scratch. And Rob Gronkowski had a big game, and he should have had a touchdown. Tom Brady missed him. Those two have just no chemistry. They never have. All right. Buy or sell. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Buy or sell. Let's start with Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson is QB1. Forget about those scrubs on Monday night. Russell Wilson is QB1. Forget about those scrubs on Monday night. Russell Wilson is QB1. Buy or sell? Buy. QB1.
Starting point is 00:12:52 They're finally letting him cook. Did we lose Heath? Their run game is in trouble. I think we may have lost Heath. No, I'm here. I was just waiting. He's thinking about it. No, there was no air for me to speak.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah. I could buy it it's a perfect storm it's a perfect storm their defense is trash but run trouble and also like i think you could have said josh allen and you could have made a convincing argument yeah is that the next by yourself? It could be. Well, hold on. I just want to say this about Wilson. So he has scored 38, 42, and 44 fantasy points in three games. What I
Starting point is 00:13:38 loved about it was he threw his fourth touchdown pass early in the third quarter. At that point, he had 23 pass attempts, and the Seahawks running backs had 13 carries. So the game scripts have just been different. They've been throwing early a lot. But last season, he scored 30 or more fantasy points in four or five weeks early in the year.
Starting point is 00:13:58 He finished his QB4. In 2018, he scored 25 or more in six of eight games. He was QB11 that year. In 2017, he scored 30 or more in six of eight games. He was QB 11 that year. In 2017, he scored 30 or more in four or five games, exactly what he did in 2019. And he did finish as QB 1 that year, but it was kind of a lackluster QB 1 season.
Starting point is 00:14:17 It was good, but not great. So I guess, I look, I buy Russell Wilson. He's amazing. But he does do this. He does have incredible hot stretches and doesn't keep it up, I guess. Has he ever had a season where he's started with 14 touchdowns, three games, 75% completion rate, a touchdown rate of 13.6%? Isn't that kind of the point? The touchdown rate's a little high, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah, maybe that comes. I don't think it touchdown rates a little high, isn't it? Yeah. Maybe that comes. I don't think it does. I think that I think he's just going to get to the rolling. No, dude, he's amazing. He's,
Starting point is 00:14:51 I know this is his MVP. You don't think he's actually going to have a 13% touchdown, right? You're right. It's probably going to be around like 10. All right. Josh Allen is QB to rest of season by herself. I don't think it's going to be around 10,
Starting point is 00:15:04 by the way, but I do think Russ is trying to prove that he's worthy of an MVP vote. And the only thing stopping him now is a Le'Veon Beltrade. Who is this? Josh Allen? Josh Allen is QB2.
Starting point is 00:15:16 You made me do it. Oh, I don't... I'm going to sell that, but I really... I can't help but come away with just... He's so incredible. he's improved a lot yeah but he's just he's
Starting point is 00:15:30 he still makes some really bad passes that ball to Stefan Diggs it should have been a touchdown to hit the ground like what was that terrible oh he's not Russell Wilson no he's got some flaws but he's obviously really good and they're throwing the ball more you know I think he should give you a lot of hope for Daniel Jones
Starting point is 00:15:48 no no no no no he should give everybody hope about every young quarterback he should um all right but he's not QB2 but he's the top I don't know, there's such a hierarchy at the position right now. The thing is, if you were going to move him ahead of someone today, it might be ahead of Kyler, who was the guy we were saying last week might be QB2. I don't think I'd do that. You're not going to put Allen ahead of Lamar or Mahomes. Well, I'm definitely putting him ahead of Watson. I don't know if he was already.
Starting point is 00:16:20 He's in that top four conversation. Is it a top six? Is it a top seven? It's obviously it's the two guys. Seven. No. All right. So who is it?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Um, well, I don't know in order, but it's Lamar and Patrick homes and Wilson and Dak and Kyler and Alan and Watson. And were you sure about Watson? Well, I mean, I don't think we'd be sure about any of these quarterbacks if they had played the Ravens and Steelers in back-to-back weeks.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I feel like if any of those other six quarterbacks had faced the Ravens and Steelers, they would have had at least one game with more than 20 or 22 fantasy points, whatever Watson put up. What did Watson have today? 20 or 22. I don't remember. That used to be good. He actually got off to a
Starting point is 00:17:07 great start in the second half. They were invisible. Okay. Hey, when does Russell Wilson play the Ravens or the Steelers? Good point. But when is Deshaun Watson at now anymore? No, his schedule
Starting point is 00:17:23 opens up. The next three days, it's going to be all about how you should trade for Deshaun Watson at now anymore? No, his schedule opens up. This is the next three days. It's going to be all about how you should trade for Deshaun Jackson and the Watson. Don't trade for Deshaun Watson. No, I'm sorry. What a Freudian slip that was. No. Why would you even do that?
Starting point is 00:17:37 Deshaun Watson. All right. Buy or sell. We are starting Mike Davis over Joe Mixon until further notice. It's because of that game against Jacksonville, right? I can't say it. Carolina in week four.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Carolina in week four. Who is it? Arizona. And then at Atlanta. And then Chicago. Yeah, I buy. And then by then, yeah, I do too.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I had a feeling Mixon wasn't going to be great today. Like I do, I do believe in the Eagles defense, but it's just hard run defense anyway. It's just hard to tell Joe Mixon managers that it's all going to be okay. But I mean, is it all going to be okay? Did Gino have more yards than him today? Well, he didn't have any carries.
Starting point is 00:18:22 So I don't know. He had like a 40 yard catch, didn't he? Maybe, but Mixon had 19 touches again. You know, Mixon and Drake are kind of similar here. Drake, DeAndre Hopkins is killing Kenyon Drake. Drake is not catching anything. I think he has five catches in three games. 65 yards for Mixon.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Oh, Chase Edmonds. 55 yards for Geo. Edmonds is not doing that much. And then you get to the goal line. He has more catches than Drake, doesn't he? Probably, but not much, right? But neither of them are. You get to the goal line, and it's the Kyler Murray show.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It's like, I don't know what to tell Kenyon Drake managers. I don't know what to tell Joe Mixon managers at this point, guys. What should we tell them? You can't sell now. Unless there's a truther amongst you that still believes that Joe Mixon should have been drafted in the first round. But there is a difference between the two of them, though.
Starting point is 00:19:10 We already talked about the schedule for Cincinnati, and it's great in week four because they've got the Jaguars, and then after that, it goes bluey. Cardinals have Carolina in week four, the Jets in week five, the Cowboys in week six. They're all on the road, but so what?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Seattle in week seven, then a bye. Week nine against Miami. Week 10 against Buffalo. Okay, okay, okay. I mean, the schedule is perfect. Well, Drake is the one that you want to try and buy low on first. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Buy or sell. Rob Gronkowski's roster percentage is absolutely perfect, but it should be higher next week. I presume it's 69%. It is, of course. 69%. Buy and sell. That it's perfect, but you sell that it should be higher
Starting point is 00:19:56 next week. This was a squeaky wheel game, no? Six catches, 48 yards, seven targets. Should have had a touchdown. Had four targets in the first two games. But I thought I had missed something, honestly. And it's great that he had seven targets. I'm not poo-pooing that at all.
Starting point is 00:20:13 But he caught six passes for 48 yards. That's not... Yeah. Still the touchdown or bust guy. If that's the ceiling... Still the touchdown or bust guy? He that's the ceiling... Still the touchdown or bust guy? He wasn't that during his career, was he?
Starting point is 00:20:31 Honestly, the last year he was in the NFL. Oh, that year, yes, he was. Obviously not over the course of his career. The whole year he was retired. He didn't get anything out of it. He was a bust every week.
Starting point is 00:20:44 All right, so is anybody buying into Rob Gronkowski? Look, if Chris Godwin's hurt... Okay. I think O.J. Howard may have had a similar amount of yards in him anyway. Buy or sell? You won't be able to trust a Bucs or Lions running back this season
Starting point is 00:21:00 barring injury. You won't be able to trust a Bucs or Lions running back this season. Sell for this season. Buy for the near-term future. I might buy it for the Lions all year. The worst thing that could have happened is that they won this game against Arizona,
Starting point is 00:21:16 giving Adrian Peterson a bunch of work. Yeah. Because now Pencil Beard's going to say, we can go ahead and keep rolling with Adrian Peterson every week. And then one week, it's just not going to work out that way. And no one will be starting DeAndre Swift.
Starting point is 00:21:32 No one can start any of these guys with any confidence. Yeah. Fournette. I mean, Ronald Jones had more carries than Fournette. Jones had five or six carries on the last drive of the game in a blowout. But at that point, it was about even. And neither of them had much carries or much work, many carries at all.
Starting point is 00:21:48 So that was really annoying, and I think you got to think of Fournette as a loser today because people were really excited about him. I was. I was one of them. Heath was not. Heath was not excited about him. Neither were you.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Good for you. No, I thought that he would have a touchdown, and he was in at the goal line a couple times. Tackled one. Didn't get the score. Yeah, and then Mike Evans, a two one-yard touchdown catches, which is bizarre. He only catches the game.
Starting point is 00:22:11 So Fournette could have had the touchdowns, but look, I don't trust Bruce Arians at all, and I know he doesn't either. No, no, no. All right, let's go to winners and losers. I still think Fournette will be the running back eventually in Tampa. I think we got to look at Denver's run defense. I feel like it's been very good this year.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yes. You know, Derrick Henry, James Conner, right? Right. Conner had a big run late last week. So like a fourth quarter salt the game away run. That really made the stat line pop. And this is one of those things where maybe I got to check PFF, but the Broncos get Jarrell Casey.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Their run defense has been really good. The Titans lose Jarrell Casey. They've got so far a terrible run defense. Oh, Dalvin cook was terrific today, by the way. All right, winners and losers.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Let's do it. Heath, Justin Jefferson. You know, we talked waiver wire. We didn't really speak about these rookie wide receivers. Justin Jefferson with a big day. T Higgins had two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Isabella is not a rookie, but he had two touchdowns. Brandon, I, you get a big day, but Jefferson was, I'm guessing the one that stood out to you. 39% rostered 175 yards and one touchdown against Tennessee. What do you think about him? Unfortunately, Pittsburgh and Buffalo in the next two weeks. What do you think about Jefferson? Looked like someone that you would be happy to draft at the, in the eighth round of a
Starting point is 00:23:30 mock draft, whether people mocked you or not. Um, no, he, uh, it was a baby step. Like he was a big time winner. Um, but it was still a baby step. You're not starting him in his next two matchups, but you love the involvement. And there's now a hope that he might be the Stefan digs in the second half of this season.
Starting point is 00:23:54 There's a reason to have him on your roster in a redraft league. What do you do? What do you do with that? When maybe Buffalo doesn't have a good defense this year. I don't know what's going on there, but what do you do with the fact that Pittsburgh and Buffalo are his next two opponents? And quite frankly, wide receivers have done just fine against Pittsburgh. They haven't torn them up, but they've been fine.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I need to see it again from Jefferson. He went from needs to be on the waiver wire to needs to be on my bench. Unless I'm desperate, you don't trust it off of one game, but it's a building block. And if you do that multiple times and then defenses will have to treat Adam Thielen a little bit differently. Maybe that whole offense gets opened up a little bit. It is a humongous step for the Vikings offense. And I know that Minnesota lost and it's frustrating that they're oh and three, but this is a good step forward. This was the type of game that I might have expected from Jefferson after Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:24:47 because it just looked like he wasn't really doing well before this week. And then it's just like an unbelievable explosion from him in this game. And I don't want people to chase it and expect him to do something like this every week because Tennessee's defense really has proven to be not very good.
Starting point is 00:25:06 But he came into the league as an NFL-ready slot receiver, and this was the type of game that makes you go, oh, that's why they took him in the first round. Yeah, very great. He needs to be rostered. There's no question about it, but he shouldn't be a priority for you unless you're in a keeper league, dynasty league, really deep wide receiver league, something like that. He won't be your priority for you unless you're in a keeper league, dynasty league, really deep wide receiver
Starting point is 00:25:25 league, something like that. He won't be your first guy to go after off waivers. He won't be even a 10% buy with your fab. That's Justin Jefferson. Heath, Daryl Henderson only started in 33% of leagues today, but he is the other winner for you. Daryl Henderson.
Starting point is 00:25:42 He was started in the For the People podcast league. Yeah, he was started in four or five of my leagues. Yeah, this is two weeks in a row now. The momentum is building. We came into the year thinking, you know, Malcolm Brown's probably going to start week one and he's kind of the placeholder and it's a race between Cam, or at least I did,
Starting point is 00:26:02 thinking it's a race between Cam Akers and Daryl Henderson to see if one of those guys can prove to be a difference maker at running back. Because Malcolm Brown, I don't remember which offensive lineman it was, but they said on the broadcast today that they call him the example. And Daryl Henderson and Cam Akers are supposed to follow that example. And they have more talent. If they do all the things that Malcolm Brown does, they'll be much better running backs because they're more talented.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And Daryl Henderson was very good in this game. Cam Akers is hurt. Malcolm Brown not as involved as we thought he might be. He still got in in the short yardage and really kind of sucked a little of the value away from Henderson until he got that late touchdown. But this was I think this was a very encouraging
Starting point is 00:26:40 step towards Henderson possibly being a semi, not feature back, but leading the committee. Would you try to sell Henderson? Because I'm wondering if just like he's going to be great until Cam Akers comes back. I don't. And I think that's a risk.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I don't want to disregard it. But I also don't think that Cam cam acres is definitely more talented than henderson he doesn't necessarily have much better pedigree and they didn't really spend that much more on draft and draft capital daryl henderson has looked terrific two weeks in a row he's looked completely different from last year it's been a pleasure to see and i think cam acres running the ball has looked a little bit like daryl Henderson did last year. All right, I was going to ask you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Can you even recall one play through the first week and three carries that Cam Akers had where you went? Wow, that guy's. No, he looks he doesn't. He doesn't quite look like I'm not. I know he had some good runs, right? He doesn't yet look like he fully belongs. All right, guys, let's go. Let's get to your winners.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Okay. I was just going to say that Henderson definitely looks like the guy that can be the primary back, not necessarily a feature back for the Rams. All right. Your winners are Mike Davis and Brandon Ayuk. So Mike Davis, 13 carries, 46 yards, eight catches, 45 yards, and a touchdown. That's two weeks in a row with eight catches.
Starting point is 00:28:05 It should be McCaffrey doing this. I know. I know. And thank goodness for it because there was no guarantee that he was going to get that type of work in the passing game, but he did. He dominated the playing time, and I think we can count on this type of volume moving forward. I don't know if he'll catch a touchdown every week,
Starting point is 00:28:23 but this has been a nice replacement for Christian McCaffrey in PPR leagues. And in non-PPR, too, because he scored. Brandon Ayuk, five catches for 70 yards, three carries for 31 yards and a touchdown against the Little Giants. He was giving
Starting point is 00:28:40 me... He's not the same type of receiver as Debo Samuel, but those kinds of vibes were coming to me because of the rushing work that he was getting. And they were using him in the passing game just like he was being used at Arizona State. You know, these little slants right off the snap, putting him in position to try and add some yards after the catch.
Starting point is 00:28:58 It was smart. It was heady. And now if Jordan reads out, none of the other receivers are healthy for week four, guess who the number one target is going to be for the 49ers passing game? It's going to be Iuke. Well, yeah, if he comes back to it, hopefully he does. I know it sounds like he does or he will. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:16 So Iuke is 30% roster. Jefferson is 39%. Who's a bigger priority? Iuke's got the Eagles than the Dolphins. And Jefferson has the Steelers and Bills. I'm going to say Iuk by one percentage of
Starting point is 00:29:31 fab and one waiver claim. I would rather start Iuk next week. I would rather have Jefferson on my bench. What's the thing that they say in Street Fighter? It sounds like Iuke. You know?
Starting point is 00:29:48 Oh, Hadouken! Yeah, I think people have made that kind of team name. Yeah, think about it, everybody. It sounds like Iuke. Yeah. All right. Losers. Losers right here. Dave's losers. Carson Wentz and Joe Bixson.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Hey, Carson Wentz has scored 23 points, Dave. Yeah, but I don't know how people can feel great about starting him. And if that offensive line is falling apart, it's a matter of time before he falls apart. I am nervous about the future of the Philadelphia Eagles offense. Rough day for him. Can I confess something about how terrible I am at fantasy football? Are you sure you want to do this?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yeah. I drafted Carson Wentz and Gardner Minshew on more than one team. And on more than one team, I have started the wrong one each week. So frustrating. So what are you going to do now? Because these are, I don't know. Let's start with this. Let's start with this. There's probably going to be a quarterback these are i don't know let's start with this let's start with this
Starting point is 00:30:45 there's probably going to be a quarterback off the waiver wire that you might be interested in at the very least stashing and at the very most streaming into week four which quarterback are you cutting first eagles play the san francisco 49ers and gardner minchu faces the bingles so i would be more likely to drop Carson Wentz. That's what I would tell you to do too. I mean, do you see the next three games for Carson Wentz? Add San Francisco, add Pittsburgh, and Baltimore. So I think we're just going to go ahead and say drop Carson Wentz.
Starting point is 00:31:16 It's over for Carson Wentz for now. We might come back to him in a month and a half. And if my history of managing Carson Wentz is any indication, you should probably start him and use him all of your DFS lineups this week. It's not a good roster. Carson Wentz is spending a lot of... He is holding the ball for a long time.
Starting point is 00:31:34 He is taking a lot of sacks, and he is making a lot of risky throws. He doesn't have... I'm sorry to say, he doesn't have a good receiver right now, especially with Goddard and Jackson. But it's not just their fault. No, it's definitely not.
Starting point is 00:31:45 He missed Deshaun Jackson wide open on a slant in the red zone before Jackson got hurt. It's partially the roster, but it's a lot him. Yeah, he's not as consistent of a passer as he's been in the past. Yeah, I read a breakdown. He might have the jitters because he knows his O-line isn't as good. Well, I read a breakdown on his mechanics from Dan Orlovsky. He said he's too upright or something like that.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I don't know. He thinks it's a mechanical issue first and foremost. So your giants, Adam, have the option to trade Daniel Jones for Carson Wentz. Of course. In a heartbeat. Absolutely. Dave, you have anything else you would like to say about Joe Mixon? I'm going to have a hard time starting him with supreme confidence
Starting point is 00:32:28 if he doesn't get it done in week four. Okay. Yeah. It's kind of the Joe Boo week. Except the difference with the Joe Boo week for Chris Herndon was it was easy to cut Chris Herndon. You can't cut Joe Mixon. It's bench Joe Mixon. And I think you can't do it in week four.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And I almost feel like regardless of how he does in week four, you're probably going to bench him anyway in week five. Okay, let's go to Heath's losers. Hayden Hurst caught a touchdown. Heath, what are you talking about? Loser. Come on. And AJ Green. Hayden Hurst. I don't... I donst. I don't really understand
Starting point is 00:33:09 what the Falcons are doing at all. I don't know how they've lost the past two games that they've played. They're really bad. And Hayden Hurst is not as good as I thought he was. And they're not using him like I thought they would. And it's really nice that he scored a touchdown for those of you that got excited.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Julio was out and put them in your starting lineup. Um, but that is not an encouraging performance at all. If, if we go into Tuesday, not knowing about Julio and gauge, I don't know that you can cut Hayden Hurst, though. I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I'm not going into Wednesday with Hayden Hurst as my only tight end, though. Okay. AJ Green, are you going to start him against Jacksonville? Probably as a number three receiver. Yeah, I don't want to. This could be the Joe Boo game for AJ Green. probably as a number three receiver. Yeah, I don't want to. This could be the Joe Boo game for AJ Green. This is the Joe Boo game. Let's refresh.
Starting point is 00:34:11 What is the Joe Boo game? Okay, once again. All right. Serrano, the character from Major League, when he's in the batter's box in the big-time playoff game, he talks to his bat, who he's put at the altar of Joe Boo in his locker, and he says, if you don't help me, Joe Boo,
Starting point is 00:34:30 or if you don't help me, I say, blank you, Joe Boo. Forget you. I do it myself. I do it myself. That's all states stand. Now, you can't go and start yourself in fantasy, but you can definitely remove a player who doesn't help you. But you might
Starting point is 00:34:48 score as many points as A.J. Green. Yeah, that's true. So I used to call it last chance saloon. If you don't get it done this week, you're done. And look, if A.J. Green hits the waiver wire, someone's going to pick him up and put him on the bench. Maybe you're hurting an opponent in your league
Starting point is 00:35:04 by letting them have AJ Green and make a bad lineup decision with AJ Green. The schedule is going to get rough for him too. It's going to get rough for Burrow. It's going to get rough for Mixon. It'll be easier to let him go if he gets shut down by CJ Henderson in week four.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yes, it would. I like it. The Joe Boo game, I love it. Let's play a game called Do These Guys matter? Cedric Wilson, five catches, 107 yards, two touchdowns for the Cow nice. Cedric Wilson, T. Higgins, Andy Isabella for the Cardinals. Four targets caught them all. Two touchdowns against Detroit. Washington wide receiver Dontrell Inman. Two touchdowns for him at Cleveland. New England running back Rex Burkhead.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I think we've established already that he does matter. So let's go with those four wide receivers. Cedric Wilson, T. Higgins, Andy Isabella, Dontrell Inman, and tight end Moe Alley-Cox. Now, I saw Jack Doyle didn't have a target. Mo Alley-Cox had three catches for 50 yards and a touchdown against the Jets. This is after five catches for 111 yards against Minnesota. So you're thinking, oh, Doyle, he was hurt. He probably didn't play.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Jack Doyle played 72% of the snaps and didn't get a target. Mo Alley-Cox only got three got three he played 77 of the snaps i believe um and he had another good game so wilson higgins isabella inman mo alley cox he's 20 of these guys matter higgins matters um like there was a portion in the second half and i i haven't seen the official snap counts for like aj green wasn't even on the field for stretches of time. And so I definitely think that Higgins may get worked in more and more. It sounds like he's already passed John Ross. Odden Tate was ahead of John Ross today
Starting point is 00:36:53 in terms of the pecking order and getting on the active roster. So Higgins is the one that I think matters the most right now. I don't have any plans of adding any of the rest of them. Here's some trivia that maybe the most diehard of podcast listeners from the offseason can answer correctly. Who was T. Higgins working out with leading up to the 2020 NFL draft? Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow. They already had chemistry.
Starting point is 00:37:22 They already had synergy together, and they ended up on the same team. And here's a game where Higgins is outperforming everybody on the Bengals. Not bad. All right, let's take a quick break here on Fantasy Football today. When we come back, we'll look at the top five players at each position, and we will go through every game with our fantasy analysis.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And you know what? I was going to say something, but I don't want to jinx it. So, well, now I have to say it, right? I was going to say something, but I don't want to jinx it. So now I have to say it, right? I was going to say, nobody's ruined Sunday Night Football for me yet. So that's great. We'll be right back
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Starting point is 00:38:57 Huge game for him. Josh Allen, two. So Russell Wilson, six points for passing touchdown legs. 44 points. Allen, 38. Dak Prescott, 32. And then this is a big surprise. Jared Goff, 30 fantasy points with a rushing touchdown at Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And Tom Brady is fifth with 29 points. So Dave, what do you think about Goff now? Two good games in a row. And Brady with his first big game of the year. I got to give Goff credit for bouncing back from a terrible start in this game against the Bills. He was atrocious. It was 21-3 at one point, and Rams basically played it cool, and they found a way to get back into the game.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Goff made some plays, but really there were a couple of plays that just really went the Rams' way. Robert Woods' touchdown, for example. Goff is about to get destroyed by a pass rusher. He flicks it to Woods. He was the hot read on a screen. Tremaine Edmonds can't wrap him up. Tredavious White falls down. Robert Woods is into the end zone 25 yards later for a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Kind of a fortuitous play, if you could imagine that. But a lot of the other plays he made, the touchdown to Cooper Cup, for example, was great. Cooper Cup was amazing for LA. And Goff deserves credit, man. He really bounced back from a really terrible start to help the Rams stay competitive and help fantasy managers who started him.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I'm just feeling lucky, though, because he is throwing. They're running the ball so much 31, 27 and 32 pass attempts in three games for Jared golf. It's just not that much. And I don't know, like you, he had a rushing touchdown today. It just feels like this is not sustainable, you know? No, I agree. Yeah. All right. Let's go to the running backs here. Rex Burkhead is number one james rock and by the way that doesn't mean he's only going to throw 31 times every week maybe he throws more but this is not sustainable well i mean it's back-to-back weeks with at least three touchdowns for him i know but that's what i'm saying passing the yeah look he's and this was
Starting point is 00:40:59 at buffalo not an easy place i know and look ph look, Philadelphia, I don't think Philadelphia's defense is that bad. He scored 29 points against them. But like you said, it was a lucky play with... It was a lucky play. He's got the Giants next week and then Washington. That's pretty good. So the next couple of games, he might just keep staying lucky.
Starting point is 00:41:19 All right, Burkhead won. James Robinson, two. Derrick Henry finally getting into the end zone, got in twice. Derrick Henry, three. Dalvin Cook, 2. Derrick Henry finally getting into the end zone. Got in twice. Derrick Henry, 3. Dalvin Cook, 4. And Nick Chubb, 5. Actually, James Conner in PPR outscored Nick Chubb.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And Austin Eckler in PPR outscored. I think he was RB3. I'm looking at non-PPR. 11 receptions. Yeah. Remember how worried we were about Austin Eckler two weeks ago? I wasn't that worried. I know Heath wasn't that worried. The. Remember how worried we were about Austin Eckler two weeks ago? I wasn't that worried. I know Heath wasn't that worried.
Starting point is 00:41:47 The fantasy world was worried. Oh, my God. He's not going to get any receptions. Yeah. That was my worry. To be fair, he's had a different quarterback each of the last two weeks. So with Tyrod Taylor, he might not get that many receptions. And I would say this game probably clinches the fact that he will be with Tyrod Taylor again he might not get that many receptions. And I would say this game
Starting point is 00:42:05 probably clinches the fact that he will be with Tyrod Taylor again at some point this year. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. You're still encouraged. Yeah. Very good. He's awesome. The touchdown he scored, fantastic. Made a guy miss. He's awesome.
Starting point is 00:42:21 All right. This is a pretty standard list other than Burkett and James Robinson. Yeah, right. Well, no, I think Robinson is, you know, we talked about him after the game on Thursday. I think he's here to stay at least a number two running back moving forward. Rex is probably not. But if you used him, great. And that's, look, forget about three touchdowns. How many more games is he going to have one touchdown in the rest of the season? It was not a good game for cam Newton, only 10 fantasy points, not a good fantasy game for him. Rex Burkhead kind of stole some, some points from him. Tyler lock. It's your number one wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Justin Jefferson is two. Cedric Wilson is three. Michael Gallup is a four. Just a normal, just a normal week. If we had told you that game, right, right, right. If we had told you that two Cowboys receivers would have finished top five, you would have been like,
Starting point is 00:43:09 all right, it's going to be Amari Cooper and maybe Lamb or maybe Gallup. Well, actually in PPR I only think one of them would have finished top five because Allen Robinson had 10 catches. Man, when they give up points, Allen Robinson's amazing. He's amazing
Starting point is 00:43:25 even when they don't give up points sometimes. Keenan Allen, 13 catches, 132 yards and a touchdown. This is two big games in a row for Keenan Allen. Are we looking to sell Keenan Allen or are we going to keep him? Go ahead, Heath. Say it. Well, what can you sell him for?
Starting point is 00:43:43 I don't think he's going... That's the thing. It's probably going to prevent me from selling him. I don't think everyone viewed him as a low-end number two coming into the year and not the low-end number one that he's been most of the time on a per-game basis. And now he's performing like a low-end number one again. And if somebody thought that he was and I could sell him for that type of value, I would do it. Cause I still think he's probably going to be a number two wide receiver the rest of the year. That's not what I was expecting to hear. I'm sorry. I cut you off at the end. No. What, what, what, um, what did you think I was going to say? I thought you were going to say, well, Tyra Taylor's going to come back and that's going to bring Keenan Allen's numbers right back down to earth.
Starting point is 00:44:19 By the way, I think I wanted to talk about that because I think we need to do a little bit of a myth buster thing here. The notion that Taylor throws the ball downfield and would be better for Mike Williams. I really think that was based on just one game because that was not the case in Buffalo. It's not even that it's not based in fact, because Keenan Allen got 28% of the targets when Tara Taylor play,
Starting point is 00:44:41 he had eight targets that game. It was just a bad game. I think. Okay. when Tyrod Taylor played, he had eight targets in that game. It was just a bad game, I think. I'm not sure if Tyrod Taylor can throw catchable passes consistently. Well, that could be, and he won't throw as much, probably, because he runs. That too, right. So these are two pretty big strikes that are going against Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 00:45:03 If you could sell high on Keenan Allen, because we're assuming that the Chargers are going to go back to Terod at some point, then I would do it. But I'm talking selling high. I'm not talking about getting rid of him for a couple of pieces who might end up being the starters for your team. How about Adam Thielen?
Starting point is 00:45:21 Give me Thielen. Thielen? Yeah. How about what if it's Joe Mix mixon joe joe mixon yeah give me mixon and i don't even like mixon i i would do mixon and non-ppr for keenan allen i think i think i would i don't know if i could do it in non-ppr even with tarag coming back and you know what even when tarag comes back once they lose one or two more games with Taylor, they're going to go right back to the kid. And they should honestly...
Starting point is 00:45:49 Look, I think they should stick with Herbert no matter what. I don't think Tarod should be under center again for the Chargers unless Herbert really regresses. So just shotgun for him? Okay. Jimmy Graham, your number one tight end. Six for 60 and two touchdowns. Tyler Croft. Really? 60 and two touchdowns. Tyler Croft.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Really? He had two touchdowns. I'm just glad we got back to normal this week. Eric Hebron. Mo Alleycox and Foster Barreau and Jacob Hollister and Jesse James. Let's get to the games. Yeah, I agree. Let's get to the games. There's two good games for Jimmy Graham out of three.
Starting point is 00:46:22 You buy that Nick Foles could maybe energize Jimmy. Okay, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have brought that up. Let's get to the games here. Pittsburgh 28, Houston 21. Heath is on the clock with Believe It or Not. Houston, by the way, only had the ball for 23 minutes and 9 seconds in this game, so that's really low.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Believe it or not, what do we got, Heath? Believe it or not, you should go by low on all the Texans. Believe it. I don't know about Brandon Cooks. I don't feel good about him at all. Should I? He was open in the end zone, and Watson missed him.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I don't know if that makes you feel better or worse. It makes me feel better. It makes me feel better. Vikings, Jaguars, Titans, Packers, buy Jaguars, Browns. In terms of things that encourage me, if a touchdown is a 10 on the encouragement meter, it almost touched out as like an 8.5. I know. I love them.
Starting point is 00:47:16 They're great. No, but seriously, the only time he was good was when Will Fuller had literally zero targets in week two. So what do you think? I think you're going to see Brandon Cooks on the waiver wire in a bunch of leagues.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Should you? Yeah. And would you pick him up? I'd rather pick him up than Justin Jefferson. Yes. I know that sounds crazy after week three, but I'm not ready to start Justin Jefferson with the bye weeks coming.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Not yet. Cooks, I could absolutely see as a bye week replacement at receiver. Buy or sell? What the hell, Juju Smith-Schuster? Buy. I've been buying that for a year and a half now. What is going on?
Starting point is 00:48:07 Five targets, four catches, 43 yards, and a touchdown. He has six, eight, and five targets in three games, and Deontay Johnson got zero catches in this game. He left with an injury. What is going on? He left in the first half. He got concussed. So I guess Deontay, not I guess, Deontay gets a pass for this one.
Starting point is 00:48:24 No, I mean Juju didn't get more targets even without Deontay Johnson. That's what I meant by that. Yeah. What is going on? How many passes has he been through? 36. 36. Five of them to Smith-Schuster.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I don't know. I'm glad he scored. I wonder if that's what he is now. How could that be? Is there a scorer? No. Well, I mean, well, he certainly is that, but he needs to find the end zone
Starting point is 00:48:48 in order to be incredible for fantasy. And if he doesn't do it, then he'll be okay. I guess, but he's like not even incredible while finding the end zone. I don't know. It's really strange.
Starting point is 00:49:02 I'm going to expect Juju Smith-Schuster to be more involved. Are you? Am I just being... I'm going to hope. Okay. I'm involved to the point where he's getting DeAndre Hopkins-type targets? No way. Ben's spreading it around.
Starting point is 00:49:20 This was a possibility, and you knew it was before the season started. Also interesting in this game, Benny Snell and Anthony McFarlane had 13 carries, and you knew it was before the season started. Also interesting in this game, Benny Snell and Anthony McFarlane had 13 carries, and this was not a blowout. Benny Snell got a goal line carry. He did. He did a terrible job on it. I don't want to do that again.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I think there's a chance that Connor could be a good sell-high guy. I've got Connor in a couple of leagues, not many, but I'm going to see what I can get for him in trade. Because he's big and burly, but he's not super fast. Would you rather have Connor or Mixon? I'd rather have Connor. I think I can get more in trade with Connor than I can with Mixon. I don't think I can get anything good for Mixon in trade right now.
Starting point is 00:50:02 No. Joe Mixon is one of those players that is so beloved by the community that will excuse all kinds of things. Really? I think so. But is this not, but also I'm hearing, no,
Starting point is 00:50:15 he means it, but I totally mean it. Joe Mixon is also a guy who gets 17 carries and more every week. So there's, there's something to say for that. And this offensive line's terrible. It was terrible last year. Yeah, but they figured out a way
Starting point is 00:50:29 in the second half of last year. And the offensive identity of this team is going through Burrow now for sure. But he's still getting 17 carries. They're just running probably a ton of plays. I'm going to trade you Joe Mixon this week. I would be interested. I would.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I mean, what would you take for Joe Mixon? I'm not giving you James Conner for him. That's for sure. I'll be interested. I would. I mean, what would you take for Joe Mixon? I'm not giving you James Conner for him, that's for sure. I'll give you Daryl Henderson. I think I would have to throw in something. I'll give you Daryl Henderson for Joe Mixon. I'd have to think long and hard about that. No. What do you mean no? No on what?
Starting point is 00:51:02 Dave's not going to do that. Okay, alright. I'm nervous. I am nervous about Joe Mixon. All right, here we go. Here we go. Let's go to New England and Las Vegas. Big game for Hunter Renfro. He probably should have been in the Does He Matter segment.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And the Patriots had the ball for nine more minutes than Las Vegas here. Heath, what do we got? Buy or sell, the Patriots' pass game is going to be bad against bad teams. Buy. Sure, yeah. Wait, believe it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Oh, yeah. Excellent. I give it an A. Right. So Cam Newton threw 20 times in week one and 19 times. 28 times in week one. 28 times in week three. 19 times. 28 times in week three.
Starting point is 00:51:50 What do you make of this performance? And Rex Burkhead saw 10 of the 28 targets went to Rex Burkhead. What do you make of this performance from Cam Newton? Strange game. I don't think he threw quite as well, just overall. The interception was ugly. And I think the Patriots were wise to try and just win this game by grinding down the clock, using their run game, attacking that Raiders front, even without their best center playing.
Starting point is 00:52:18 So I don't have a problem with the game plan, but this is something that can happen anytime the Patriots can get moving off the snap with the run game that cam disappoints you okay chiefs host the patriots next week let's do a buyer so oh yeah that's one where i think cam could end up being better because unless the chiefs just suddenly have an absolutely horrific run defense, and they might. All right, so Josh Jacobs, 16 carries after having 25 and 27 in weeks one and two. So buy or sell, you might want to see what you can get for Josh Jacobs because he has the high-scoring bills, not a joke, and the Chiefs,
Starting point is 00:53:01 and then a buy in his next three games. And he's got a hip injury yeah but i don't think you're gonna i think people are gonna see the injury tag on jacobs along with what you got out of him in week three and they're gonna say well i can't give you a first round value for him anymore sorry i don't know what happened what What is Heath apologizing for? I just cheered audibly. Oh, okay. That's fine. I just know that like an hour into the game, something great happened.
Starting point is 00:53:32 It was really great. Buffalo 35 and the Rams 32. We talked about Jared Goff. We talked about Daryl Henderson. Robert Woods with a big game. He had 30 rushing yards. He also had 74 yards and a touchdown receiving. Cooper Cup, 107 yards and a touchdown on 10 targets. What are we looking at? Oh,
Starting point is 00:53:47 Tyler Higby was bad. What are we looking at here, Heath? Bye. No, no. Believe it or not. I was going to do Josh Allen, but believe it or not, that's what this is. Daryl Henderson will be the best Rams running back rest of season.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I'm believing it today am I ready to believe it for the rest of the season kind of because acres just hasn't looked great brown has looked okay but Henderson's really gonna have to botch it I think the coaches like him. I'm believing it. I'm believing it. Heath, are you believing it? Yeah. I don't think he has a 50% chance of being the lead running back all season long,
Starting point is 00:54:37 but I think he has the best chance of any running back on the roster. He gets the plurality, but not the majority. Is that fair? Yes. Yes. Absolutely fair. What can, but not the majority. Is that fair? Yes. Yes. Absolutely fair. What can you throw in with Henderson for Joe Mixon, Adam?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Darius Slayton. That's a great choice of names to throw in there. And I might take it because I really like Slayton too. Do fumbles count in this league? Gosh. Yeah, no, I mean, Slayton does what every other Giants wide receiver does,
Starting point is 00:55:12 doesn't get open. And then Daniel Jones throws interceptions. James Jones. Devin Singletary needs to be discussed here. No Zach Moss. 13 carries, 4 catches for Singletary. And he got some goal line work and he did not get in,
Starting point is 00:55:28 unfortunately. But, buy or sell, Devin Singletary is a reliable RB2 rest of season, even when Moss is back.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I believe it. Everything but the reliable part. Okay. And I'm thinking he's going to have some ups and downs, but he'll be part. Okay. And I'm thinking... I think he's going to have some ups and downs, but he'll be a number two. I'm thinking it's going to be more of a low-end number two. Like, I think it's going to be like a special occasion
Starting point is 00:55:53 when he scores a touchdown, like Haley's comment. Yeah, I know. Like, it's going to be like that, okay? Once every 76 years, Devin Singletary will score a touchdown. Yeah, he's... He's going to lead running backs in, like, years, Devin Singletary will score a touchdown. He's going to lead running backs in
Starting point is 00:56:07 yards to touchdown ratio, basically. It's my new YPC, YTT, YTTDs. Tyler Higby, is he droppable? No. He ran into a team with a good scheme against tight ends.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Healthy linebackers. Jamie talked about this late in the week about how this would be bad for Tyler Higbee, and it's totally understandable. Tennessee 31, Minnesota 30. Heath? Buy or sell. Believe it or not. Believe it or not. Is this your first podcast doing this, Heath? He did the whole buy or sell thing and it just threw me off. Maybe I'm the one that threw up. This is the first time I've done buy or sell, actually.
Starting point is 00:56:52 So I get that, yeah. Yeah. Believe it or not, Corey Davis is a startable wide receiver until A.J. Brown gets back. I don't believe it. I believe it. Good.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah. Pittsburgh and Buffalo next two weeks. Is Pittsburgh a bad matchup for receivers? I think it's a bad matchup for Ryan Tannehill. You're probably not going to go off on Pittsburgh. I know Slayton did, but it're probably not going to go off on Pittsburgh. I know Slayton did, but it's probably not going to. They are giving up some
Starting point is 00:57:30 production, so I don't know what to make of that. Four was good against them. Sutton was good against them. Slayton was good against them. Yeah. Sutton was good because you might not see that in the numbers, but he only played 40% of the snaps, I think. He had 66 yards. Yeah. If you're stuck, why not?
Starting point is 00:57:50 All right, let's do another one. Believe it or not. Who's stuck in week four? A lot of people are stuck. You're kidding? A lot of these injuries. I mean, Corey Davis was started in 42% of leagues this week, so a lot of people were stuck.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Yeah. He had seven catches in week one. He's at eight in weeks two and three. Believe it or not, Ryan Tannehill should... You should drop Ryan Tannehill for Ryan Fitzpatrick, believe it or not, by yourself.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I believe it. You buy it. B minus? B minus? That's good. There's going to come a... This is the problem. If you drop Tannehill, A, no one's really going to race to pick him up
Starting point is 00:58:35 if it's a one quarterback league, but in two weeks after Pittsburgh and after Buffalo, he's got Houston, Cincinnati, Chicago, the Colts. I mean, he's got a stretch in there where he's got some great matchups. Of course, we thought he had a really great matchup today and he didn't throw a touchdown. He threw for 321 yards, so let's
Starting point is 00:58:53 give him that. But I don't really think so. No, I don't think we're going to. Why? Because every time he throws 25 passes and four touchdown passes, I get to hear, how about that regression, Heath? So when he throws for 300 yards and no touchdowns, nope, he sucked. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Okay. All right, let's go to our next game. Cleveland 34 and Washington 20, Heath. Believe it or not, Kareem Hunt is a sell high. 16 carries, two catches, and another touchdown. I don't mind trying to sell high on him. I don't
Starting point is 00:59:34 know if I would put him in the sell high category, so I do not believe it. Would you rather have Joe Mixon or Kareem Hunt for the rest of the season? Oh, I knew that question was coming. I really am nervous about Mixon, but I'm also a little nervous about Hunt. I'm encouraged that he had a game like this
Starting point is 00:59:54 and what amounts to a blowout victory for the Browns. I think I would lean toward Hunt. I think you could possibly sell Hunt for Mixon. I definitely think you could. And I don Mixon. I definitely think you could. And I don't know if I want to do that. I think the game script is going to be really important here. If they have a lead, although this was a pretty back and forth game,
Starting point is 01:00:16 but they did end up winning by 14. Because when they're behind, it's going to be better for him, right? I think so. But he only has eight catches in three games. We've only been behind in one of the games. They've only thrown 12. Four of them were in that game where he was behind.
Starting point is 01:00:33 But, yeah, I guess so. But what I'm saying is the last two games they've played have been the Bengals and Washington. I mean, what's going to happen when Kareem Hunt gets a game where he doesn't score a touchdown? He's not going to score as many fantasy points. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Well, thanks for that, Heath. But I mean, we're probably looking at, you know, you're going to freeze up when it comes to starting Kareem Hunt. Week one, he had 13 carries for 72 yards and four catches for nine yards at Baltimore. So no touchdown and 12 PPR fantasy points. Yeah, not bad. But not what you want from your number two running back in full PPR.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Joe Mixon, manager, would sure take it. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. But that's why I'm okay going with Hunt in this case. Would you trade Kareem Hunt for Michael Gallup? Who would you rather have? Hunt. About a million miles.
Starting point is 01:01:28 How about Kareem Hunt or Tyler Boyd? Hunt. I might say Boyd. I'm encouraged by Boyd's target share. Me too. He'll be moving up for sure.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Believe it or not, or buy or sell. Wait, what do I do? Do I do buy or sell? I think you move us on to the next game. No, no. We've got to talk about Beckham. You're going to talk about Antonio Gibson and what do you do with him? I was going to talk about who would you rather have rest of the season, Beckham or Gibson?
Starting point is 01:02:02 Gibson. I'll say Odell. I'm encouraged that Gibson had three catches. We're starting to get a little bit closer to what we're looking for from him. Okay. Cincinnati 23. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Cincinnati 23, Philadelphia 23. And Heath, you're up. Yeah. Believe it or not. You. Well, we already talked about AJ Green. Okay. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Believe it or not. Carson Wentz and AJ Green are droppable. No. I half believe it. Yeah. Half believe it. Because if I see Carson wentz on the waiver wire i'm not gonna you know jump at it but if i see aj green on the waiver wire even though he's
Starting point is 01:02:50 gotten off to a horrible start i'm jumping like aj green definitely has the fewest fantasy points of any person you would say that about right probably it's not injured probably um well i don't know if someone's cutting joe mixon because they're tired of looking at his mugshot on their roster. Who has more points between the two? I would assume Mixon does. No, I would say J.K. Dobbins. Oh, no. Dobbins had two touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah. Cam Akers, maybe? I picked up Akers in one of my leagues. Somebody dropped him. Oh, Swift's going to get dropped in some leagues this week. He played 5% of the snaps. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's separate thought. Tell me what you think about Greg Ward and Zach Ertz. Ward
Starting point is 01:03:29 had eight catches for 72 yards and a touchdown on 11 targets. Ertz had seven catches for 70 yards on 10 targets. Rager's out for a while. Deshaun Jackson might be out for a while. Dallas Goddard might be out for a while. Wentz is running out of people to throw to again. Ward kind of came in the clutch last year.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Here he is again. Our single white side's hurt. Philadelphia is that team. Well, what do you think? I mean, he's 2% rostered. How rostered should Greg Ward be? Somewhere north of 20%, but less. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Like right somewhere between 20 and 30%. San Francisco 36, Giants 9. Let's have such a great weekend. That's over. Yeah. Believe it or not. Last week we did. You can't start any Giants.
Starting point is 01:04:13 So I won't do that again. Believe it or not. Jeff Wilson should be the number one out on the waiver. Can you tell me what McKinnon's status is or is it going to be like uncertain? No, we might not know. You're not going to be like uncertain? No, right. We might not know. You're not going to know. We don't ever know. We'll get a Monday update on McKinnon and what the injury we'll get a
Starting point is 01:04:31 Monday update on. I don't think they're going to tell us on Monday, whether McKinnon's playing this week. Well, if he's got fractured ribs, then we're going to know that he's not going to play. But if it's, Oh,
Starting point is 01:04:40 he's got sore ribs. He got bruised up, beat up. We'll see how he does this week in practice. Well, then there's a chance that he plays. And if they have an optimistic report on Mostert, that just makes it all the worse for Wilson.
Starting point is 01:04:50 We need those guys out of the way for Wilson to be a one-week hero for fantasy purposes. And I can't believe he caught passes and even caught a touchdown. Yeah, well, he scored both of his touchdowns in the fourth quarter. He had 12 carries on the day and Wilson, six of them, came on the final drive of the game other than the kneel downs.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Wilson, we'll have plenty of time to talk about that. Let me ask you this. Devontae Freeman is rostered in 89% of leagues. Some people spent 40%, 50%, a ton of their fab on Devontae Freeman. I'm not laughing because I didn't even think he was going to play necessarily. He played and he had five carries for 10 yards.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Nothing negative about this at all. He looked just as rough as he did last year. It's five carries, but fine. But what I'm saying is he's 89% rostered now. What do you think it's going to be on Wednesday morning? 70? Yeah. You should not drop him yet. We need to see him with a full
Starting point is 01:05:49 week of practice before we make any judgments. But are you starting him anytime soon? Well, that's going to depend on what he does next week. Definitely not starting him next week. Wait and see. Can't start him next week. Dion Lewis got two touches. It's ridiculous. So Evan Ingram is droppable
Starting point is 01:06:05 by herself. I don't believe it. Not in a vacuum, but it's possible. Again, if he's out there on the waiver wire, I do not mind having him
Starting point is 01:06:17 as my second tight end. Guys, we got six minutes, six games left. Hopefully, we can do it in 10 minutes at most. Chicago 30, Atlanta 26. Go ahead, Heath. Yeah, we can do it in 10 minutes at most. Chicago 30, Atlanta 26.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Go ahead, Heath. Yeah, believe it or not, Russell Gage and Hayden Hurst are not good enough to be second and third options. Well, Gage got hurt. Well, he got hurt, but he played enough snaps to have better numbers than he did. He was having a very bad game when he got hurt.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Two catches, 24 yards on three targets. I don't... Maybe. No. I mean, I think Calvin Ridley, while he wasn't very efficient in this game, showed us that he... And we thought he could be...
Starting point is 01:06:58 He can be the number one if Julio misses an extended period of time. He had almost no... Gage has succeeded with a lot of targets, but two elite wide receivers around him. A team could pay him no mind whatsoever. You know, Calvin Ridley had almost no, he had one catch in the second half.
Starting point is 01:07:13 And I'm wondering if like losing Julio and Gage, you know, actually was bad for him. But, you know, the full game stats are obviously tremendous. Ryan's game ceilingsealing interception was ticketed to Ridley. It was just a bad throw. I don't know. Undecided
Starting point is 01:07:31 on that one, Heath. How about buyer's sell? Anthony Miller is back in play with Nick Foles at the helm. Yeah, because what does that mean? Back in play? A possible starter for your team mean back in play a possible starter for your team worthy of a roster spot for your team what does that mean back yes like what you said about justin
Starting point is 01:07:54 jefferson at the very least worthy of being on your bench yeah okay i'll buy that he's bench worthy i hadn't i had not quite yet dropped him yet, so I guess that's why I sold. Real quick, Todd Gurley or Melvin Gordon rest of season? Melvin. He whispered Melvin. I think I would say Melvin, but I know that Phillip Lindsey's coming back and this Broncos offense looks bad.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Falcons offense looks bad and Gurley isn't the only running back in town for Atlanta. He's catching nothing. I guess I'm going to say Melvin, but I know Todd Gurley, 80 yards and a touchdown. Everybody should be thrilled. This might be his best game of the year. If there was ever, here's a sell high candidate.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Take him after this game and go to the fantasy manager that just spent a ton of fab on Devante Freeman and say, forget about that old Falcons receiver or Falcons running back. Take this old Falcons running back. I ruined my joke, as I said. Yeah, that's okay. Carolina 21, Chargers 16, Heath. This game makes me a little bit sick,
Starting point is 01:09:06 but believe it or not, Joshua Kelly's 23 carries in week two were the outlier. Oh, believe it. Well, we were expecting them to be salting away a win in this game. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:22 They should have leaned on the run way more than they did. If there are a one and two team whose only victory came because the Bengals missed a field goal at the end of the game, maybe we shouldn't ever expect them to be salting away wins. Yeah, I agree. I'm sorry. The Panthers defense coming into this game was terrible. They were absolutely terrible. The Chargers offense has not been very good. No, they're scoring 18 points a game was terrible. They were absolutely terrible. The Chargers offense has not been very good. No, they scored 18 points a game or something. But at the very least,
Starting point is 01:09:49 they showed some willingness to run the football, and they should have known going into this game that they should have run the football and taken pressure off of their rookie quarterback. How much do you think Kelly's fumble mattered? It probably mattered a little bit. More than I'm giving it credit for it's trouble. And now
Starting point is 01:10:08 he's back again. This is two of three games where he's been in the eight to 12 range, which we've talked about. That's where that second running back is for the Chargers. Who would you rather have rest of season? Daryl Henderson or Josh Kelly Henderson by really? Are you kidding? Absolutely not. Because of when Cam
Starting point is 01:10:24 Akers gets back, you might see three running backs in there, and you know Kelly's... When Justin Jackson gets back, he might get carries again. Okay, all right, all right, all right. Jeez, sorry. Buy or sell. You could have done a better one than that one. DJ Moore is not going to have five touchdown catches this year.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Or he will not have more than five. Sell. I sell that. Jets and Colts. I put Jets 36, Colts 7. That doesn't feel right to me. What should you say? Colts 36, Jets 7, I think.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Oh, okay. Sounds more right. I thought you were saying the game wasn't as close as the score would indicate. No, I switched the teams. Colts 36, Jets 7. Yeah. Heath? Well, I mean, you could do a variety of things here. I think we
Starting point is 01:11:11 talked enough about T.Y. Hilton, so I will say buy or sell. Jonathan Taylor's been just a little bit of a disappointment. His workload has been a disappointment. Oh, wait. Well, this week it was. He had 26 carries last week. He hasn't broken off big runs
Starting point is 01:11:30 and been awesome in that sense. You can't complain with a touchdown. He's going to score a lot of touchdowns. They were blowing out the Jets. They were able to give Wilkins some run. Naheem Hines had seven carries.
Starting point is 01:11:45 I'm not worried one bit. I'm not even a little bit unhappy with Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, I agree. I'm going to not believe it. Okay. Buy or sell. Naheem Hines, you can drop him in PPR. What's that about, too? Last week, we thought we could start Naheem Hines. Nope, you can drop him in PPR. What's that about, too?
Starting point is 01:12:05 Last week, we thought we could start Naeem Hines. Nope, you can't. He's not involved at all. He's not even going to touch the football. We don't want him to go on the field or in the huddle. And then this week, he has 11 touches for, what, 60 yards? 61? Yeah, but that's not that good. He was worth double-digit
Starting point is 01:12:21 PPR points. Okay, look, just say sell. When I say buy or sell, you think that I buy all of them. You can allow me to sell them, you know? I believe Naheem Hines is a good bench running back in full PPR. I was complaining about his usage, not your question. Okay. Seattle 38, Dallas 31.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Heath, what do you got? Buy or sell, Amari Cooper's really the only Cowboys wide receiver that's a trustworthy start every week. No, I think Cedric Wilson is that guy. Oh, stop it. I think I trust CeeDee Lamb only in PPR. I don't think he's going to score a lot of touchdowns, but this is his worst game. Well, no, he's had two games with about five catches for 60 yards.
Starting point is 01:13:08 So an 11-point floor is not that good, but it's worthy of being like a flex in a PPR league. So I'll say Lamb. I won't believe that. I think Gallup put himself back on the map as at worst a number three receiver. Look, he came close to having good numbers in week one and, I guess, in week two
Starting point is 01:13:29 as well. Connection finally made in week three. Yeah. Okay, and then buy or sell DK Metcalf is one of the most interesting players in football. Deshaun K. Metcalf? But it's everything. It's the drops. Metcalf? But it's
Starting point is 01:13:46 everything. It's the drops. It's the... Like, he burns guys deep every game. He's incredible and he's so bad sometimes. Like, oh my God, what a rollercoaster. I mean, he was a goofball for having somebody pop the ball out from behind him on the...
Starting point is 01:14:02 what should have been like a 60-plus yard touchdown earlier in the game made up for it later in the game. But if he hadn't if he had secured the ball better earlier in the game, he would have needed to score that touchdown later in the game. We're still going to take that touchdown later in the game. He's absolutely I don't know if interesting
Starting point is 01:14:18 is the word must start is are the words for DK Metcalf Detroit 26 Arizona 23 buy or sell are the words for DK Metcalf. Detroit 26, Arizona 23. Buy or sell, Kenyon Drake's a bust. Believe it or not, Kenyon Drake's a bust. I don't believe it. I think I do.
Starting point is 01:14:37 But not like a mild bust. I'd take him in the third round. He was going at the 1-2 turn for a lot of drafts. Mixon was going ahead of him. Let's talk about the team, the running backs that you took after him that you would take ahead of him now. And my reasoning for it is I just think that Kyler Murray
Starting point is 01:14:57 is having such a great year running the ball, and DeAndre Hopkins is catching so many passes, and I think those two factors are hurting Kenyon Drake. But Jonathan Taylor ahead of him, right? Yeah. Aaron Jones is obvious. I'd rather have James Conner. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:16 As long as he stays healthy. I don't know if I'm... Conner's going to be more valuable in a trade than Kenyon Drake right now. But I don't know if I'm ready to say that. I think Eckler's ADP was behind his. I taking eckler over him i would have eckler yeah i would rather have eckler like what about nick chubb because i know it's easy right now the easy thing is to say nick chubb ahead of drake but nick chubb ahead of drake yeah i mean i get that but i think there's a case that they're pretty even it's just one of the guys scoring
Starting point is 01:15:43 touchdowns right now and The other is Heath. Who would you take, Hunt or Drake? I'd probably take Drake still. I would too. But it's much closer than I thought it was going to be. I promise you they will find a way to feed him in the next... Not feed him. They've been doing that.
Starting point is 01:15:58 I think they'll find a way to get him some touchdowns here in the next month or so. He needs the targets that are going to chase Edmonds. I think that's the difference. He needs the rushing touchdowns that are going to Kyler Murray, too. That would help as well. Tampa Bay 28 and Denver 10. Believe it or not, it just took a couple weeks,
Starting point is 01:16:20 but Tom Brady's a must-start quarterback. He didn't have as many drops on him this week as last week. Seven drops last week was really bad. I believe that. Must-start is a little... All right, can we temper the must-start and just... No. Can we cut the must?
Starting point is 01:16:37 No. All right, then I guess I just can't believe it. Wait, I have a better one. But if we did temper it, then I would say yes. I have a better one. Well, that wasn't the question. Dave, come on. I have a better one. But if he did temper it, then I would say yes. I have a better one. Well, that wasn't the question. Dave, come on. I have a better one.
Starting point is 01:16:45 There are no must-start quarterbacks that are not 250 rushing yard guys. Other than, okay, yeah. None of the quarterbacks that are not running quarterbacks are must-starts by or so. And Matt Ryan, I would always say. Mahomes is just barely. Yeah, he's in there. He qualifies as a rushing
Starting point is 01:17:08 quarterback? Yeah, he had like 300 yards in 16 games last year. 250 is like the arbitrary line I use, which is, you know, anybody could... Sure. Any number you want. I would believe that statement. That is a believable statement. I would have not believed... I don't think I believe it if Julio Jones is healthy, because
Starting point is 01:17:23 then Matt Ryan is a must-start. But that's pretty much it, right? All the must-start, no question, no doubt about it quarterbacks are the mobile guys. We'll see what Rodgers does tonight. Maybe he gets in there. I don't know. Don't tell me what he does.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Okay, we got to go, everybody. Wait, wait, wait. Take off my headphones. I don't want to hear anything you have to say. No, I have something from the Broncos. Thank you so much for watching Fantasy Football today. Can I please say what I want to say? We'll be back tomorrow with our Monday episode.
Starting point is 01:17:49 See ya.

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