Fantasy Football Today - Week 3 Start Sit Advice (Part 1) | MUST-Start Players & Big Names to AVOID (09/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 24, 2026Adam, Jamey and Heath kick off the Week 3 fantasy football preview with the players they love (3:37) and the players they’re avoiding (11:18), including Chuba Hubbard, Tyler Shough, Luther Burden an...d Terry McLaurin. After the latest news and notes (21:56), the guys answer one key fantasy football question for every game (26:26) before diving into their biggest start/sit decisions. They break down Panthers-Browns (34:18), Chargers-Bills (44:32), Patriots-Jaguars (52:20), Bengals-Steelers (1:00:46), Texans-Colts (1:06:01), Jets-Lions (1:11:00), Rams-Broncos (1:14:57) and Chiefs-Dolphins (1:19:57). Get the latest Week 3 fantasy football advice on Quinshon Judkins, Justin Herbert, Rhamondre Stevenson, Dalton Schultz, Davante Adams and more to help with your toughest roster decisions.Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcastsWatch FFT on YouTube
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Good morning, Heath. How's fantasy football going for you through two weeks?
I'm thankful for Dalton Schultz.
Wasn't a great week one.
I've got Dalton Schultz on about half my teams, though, so it was a much better week two.
And, you know, it'd be nice as Zay Flowers had come back.
Yeah, not well for some people.
Is that why you have Dalton Schultz ranked as your number two tight end?
Are you trying to will it into existence?
No, no.
It's just where he comes out in the projections.
And I think, listen, if you look at the only one that I would say that based on what's happened this year, you would say is definitely ahead of him as Dalton Kincaid.
Isaiah likely is going to be playing with a backup quarterback that looked completely incompetent.
Not Tray McBride?
Tray McBride's number one.
I said ahead of Schultz, who's at two.
Oh, who's, okay.
And if Brock Bowers gets a full practice in, then I'll put him up to a full.
But I just, I remember Brock Bowers not at 100%.
And so I'm being a little cautious with him.
All right.
So today we're going to talk about players we love, players we're avoiding.
And the eight games we're previewing today, Carolina at Cleveland,
Chargers at Bills.
Can the Chargers get right?
Something that's a little encouraging is that each of the two quarterbacks
who have faced the bills have thrown 38 passes.
Justin Herbert has 27 pass attempts in both games so far.
So hopefully we can get more pass attempts for Herbert.
Patriots are at the Jaguars.
Drake May another sit.
Cincinnati's at Pittsburgh.
I watched all of the routes for D.K. Metcalf from against Cincinnati last year.
And I'll tell you what I found.
Houston at Indianapolis, Jets at Lions, Rams at Broncos, Kansas City at Miami.
So it's AFC Home Games Plus Jets at Lions.
Good morning, Jamie.
Good morning.
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three players we love.
Jamie's got Chuba Hubbard at Cleveland,
Rashad Bateman in Brazil
against the Cowboys, and Pat
Friarmuth against Cincinnati.
And I love like, you know,
it's not like just layups here,
some bowl calls. All right, let's talk about Chuba Hubbard.
Yeah, Chuba's probably a layup, you know,
with Brooks being out,
although the Brown's run defense has actually been better
than I think people realize
they haven't given up a touchdown to a running back yet
so far in two games.
And hopefully,
Chuba will be the first one to do it.
But it's basically, you know, the job is his, I don't think A.J. Dillon or if they end up
signing Austin Ackler or anybody else they have on the roster, you're going to take him off
to field for significant stretches.
He's been playing so much already with Brooks Healthy.
So you've got an 88 total yard game from Bachel Tut, and you've got an 89 total yard game
against Cleveland last week from Bucky Irving.
And so I think that's kind of the floor for Chubbard, around nine PPR points if things go bad.
But he's just been so good in this offense.
This offense is playing so well.
for me, Chuba's a number one running back this week, and I continue to move him up, you know,
closer to the top 10 right now.
He's 11.
For Bateman, look, it's going to depend on, you know, where he slots in on the Zay Flowers injury front.
I'm nervous that Flowers is going to play this week.
So Bateman, if Flowers is out, is a top 20 receiver for me.
If Flowers is in, he's still a number three receiver that I would start with a lot of confidence.
Again, it's a small sample size over the last two C or since 2024.
But basically, anytime he gets five targets, he scores at least 15 PPR points.
And I think he'll get five targets and what I'm hoping is going to be a shootout.
So excited to see Rashad Bateman.
If Flowers plays, just to see what we get until Jacoby Lane is back.
But if Flowers is out, you saw what he's capable of doing last week, just had a monster game against Saints.
And then for Pat Fryman with, you heard me saying on Tuesday with the Waverwire show,
just a great history here against the Bengals in his last 10 games against that.
them six touchdowns. He averages over 14 ppr points per game and some huge
huge performances in that stretch. So we saw two versions of the Bengals against
tight ends. One was decent against K. Dotten. I think that's more about K. Dotten.
We saw last week Dalton Schultz get Uber targeted and he was amazing. I don't think
we're getting either of those two. I think we're getting somewhere in between. But I think
that fire move this week is a great starting option. Somebody asked me yesterday,
would you start frymuth over Colston-loveland? And yes, I would.
we've got it eight almost 80 pass attempts for the Steelers in two games and looking at that
bengal's defense probably going to be tough to run on them and hopefully the bengal's offense
shows up as well heath when we look at um rashad bateman here uh you've got him much lower
at 47 jamie at 25 Dave in the middle at 35 so let's talk about that real quick yeah i think
we had a little talk yesterday about whether we should be rankings a flowers or not because
if he missed last week, he didn't show up at practice.
And we always have this difficult battle between the coach talked optimistically,
but he's not at practice.
And it was Wednesday.
So if he's not at practice on Thursday, I will move Bateman up.
If Zay Flowers doesn't play, I will probably have Bateman right around wide receiver 30.
But if Zayfowler's is fine and was just taking Wednesday off and is himself,
then I think he's going to have a 30% target share like he has for all of last year.
and even better in week one.
And I think Derek Henry's probably going to run for 500 yards against the Cowboys.
So I'm not sure there's room for a second wide receiver.
500.
All right.
I've got a couple of Henry leagues.
I'll start him, I guess.
How about some players you love you?
Tyler Shuck against the Raiders, Jalen Warren against the Bengals and Jalen Koker.
Two Jalen spell differently.
In fun fact, Jalen Koker at Cleveland.
And there's other ways to spell Jailen, but I couldn't find any that I wanted to
to start this week. Yeah, Tyler Shuck is currently QB7 in my projections for the week. So I've got
him ahead of Joe Burrow, ahead of Trevor Lawrence, ahead of Matthew Stafford, ahead of Drake May,
ahead of Justin Herbert, a lot of guys that we drafted ahead of Tyler Shuck. It's just a pretty
fantastic situation when you can't run the ball and you play fast. And so you're going to get 35 to 40
pass attempts per game. I think the only concern that I would have is that the Raiders don't score
enough to put them in a hole early.
But even then, I'm not sure that they have an effective enough running game to be able to do
anything other than throw the ball a lot.
All right.
So that's Tyler Shuck and some big names that Heath would start Tyler Shuck over.
Jalen Warren, so the Bengals run defense has been so good.
What do you think about Warren, though, in this matchup?
So another guy that is very iffy for this week is Rico Dowdell.
And I will like Warren as a top 24 running back, whether Dowell plays or not, because Warren's
been better. But if
Dowdell's out, then I think
Warren is right there in that Chuba Hubbard
conversation. And yeah, it's a hard
defense to run again. So are the Browns.
But we know what Warren's
involvement is in the passing game.
The Bengals have already seen 15
running back receptions
against them. That's the most in the
NFL through two weeks. This team,
you want to talk about a team that can't run the ball.
It's the Steelers. They have one of the worst
run blocking grades so far through two
weeks. So the passes to Jalen Warren are becoming the Steelers run game. He might catch six passes in
this game. And they were bad against past catching running backs last year, Cincinnati. They gave up like
the fourth most receiving yards per game to running backs in 2025. And the last player on your
your love list is Jalen Coker at Cleveland. And I think most people are planning on starting him,
especially in a three wide receiver league, but just to highlight how much I love him, he's currently
wide receiver 13. Tedro-McMillan is wide receiver 12.
I love everything about what Brad isick,
is I say that right,
is doing with this Carolina Panthers offense,
lots of passes,
lots of downfield passes,
and both McMillan and Coker are must-starts.
Just watch the ankle because he's still battling an ankle injury,
but he was battling last week at practice.
It didn't seem to slow him down too much.
And yet you are the low guy on Price Young,
which is weird,
not super low,
but you have him 12th,
whereas Dave and Jamie have him ninth right now.
So any thoughts on that?
No.
Nine through 12 is pretty much just like throw him in a bag,
shake it up, spill them out.
Fair enough.
All right, to recap, Jamie loves Chuba Hubbard,
and he loves Jalen Coker,
and Bryce Young is a top 12 quarterback.
So I guess this is a test.
This is a little bit of a test that Cleveland for Carolina.
Let's see how it goes.
Listen, he drops back, he throws deep downfield.
You need good pass protection for that.
We want to see, I want to see what happens.
If the pass protection breaks down.
So far it's been pretty good.
Jamie also loves Rashad Bateman and Pat Friarmuth.
Heath has Tyler Shuck and Jalen Warren.
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Let's keep breaking records.
Players to avoid,
Heath's got Baker Mayfield against the Vikings,
Ramandre Stevenson.
at Jacksonville and Luther Burden against Philadelphia.
Talk about Baker and then I'll tee up for the next two.
Okay, yeah.
I think this whole operation in Tampa Bay looks like they didn't quite figure out the offense
and what they want to do in training camp.
Baker's holding onto the ball, guys aren't getting open,
the line's not been playing well.
Here comes Brian Flores.
Stay very far away.
And if you have to drop Baker because you need to add a different quarterback,
that's fine.
Remandre Stevenson at Jacksonville, that's a sit for you.
Does that extend the Trevion on Henderson?
And then Luther Burden against the Eagles, that's a sit for you.
Does that extend to everyone else in the passing game, basically, for the Bears?
Yes, and yes, it's a good Jacksonville run defense, maybe at times a great Jacksonville run defense.
I don't think we can be confident about who is going to have the most rush attempts for the Patriots this week.
Stevenson will do the work in the passing game, but I'm not sure.
that role is enough to make him a starter. I wouldn't want to start Henderson either.
And listen, I think there's a chance with out Caleb Williams that we actually see the Luther
Burden and Colston-Levelin target volume that we would like to see. Unfortunately, it's Case
Keenham, and unfortunately, it's the Eagles defense. So we're not going to take that chance here.
But I do expect the offense to play more on schedule and the guys that we liked in this game to
maybe get the opportunities.
It's just a terrible matchup and a terrible quarterback.
Yeah, I mean, he hasn't always been a terrible quarterback.
We'll talk about this game tomorrow.
There's some times where Kay Skidem does okay, but he's not Cooper Rush.
Sorry, Cooper Rush.
I keep picking on Cooper Rush.
Well, no, it's not, except what is he now?
50, some, 53?
I think there's a chance it is Cooper Rush at this point in his career.
Yeah, Cooper Rush once upon a time wasn't bad too.
Jamie, you know, Heath talked about that Jacksonville run defense, but I don't know if there's a better run defense than the Patriots run defense.
And you've got Bejel Tootin as a player to avoid.
Terry McLaren against Seattle, Colston Loveland against the Eagles.
Yeah, Loveland's just kind of an extension of what Heath was talking about.
Clearly, the start of the year has not been great as well.
So you heard me say I would start Pat Frymouth over Loveland.
I saw Loveland dropped in one of my 10 team, half-PPR leagues last night.
was a little surprised by that, but pick them up.
I have Bowers, so I probably won't, but, you know, it's shallow benches.
That's why somebody dropped them.
So it's just one of those things where, you know, if you're, if you're stuck and you
can't carry multiple tight ends, you know, due to injuries because a lot of fantasy managers
dealing with that, you're going to see a level on some waiver wires, which is unfortunate.
But I'm hoping, kind of like what you said, like, I'd like to see just Case Keenum target these
guys and then let's see what they do.
It's not so much about just Caleb missing.
It's just the fact that these guys have not been great so far through two weeks.
And now you're throwing a backup quarterback, as he said, against the Eagles.
For Bachel Tutin, look, he's been good so far.
He's been a little frustrating so far as well.
If you don't get the direct snap touchdown last week, which we saw the next time they were down there,
it was Chris Rodriguez against Denver.
Like, we're looking at two kind of mediocre games for a guy that's not heavily involved in the passing game,
so we know what that means.
That's typically a trapback.
You're talking about, you said it, the Patriots run defense with Milton Williams on the field,
They've allowed only two rushing touchdowns to running backs in our last 14 games.
His last 14 games, excuse me, not their last 14 games.
His last 14 games.
So that's not great for a guy that if he does not score and is not heavily involved in the passing game,
you know, I referenced it a lot.
You know, Pete Prisco's is tied into the Jaguars possible.
He posted something on X yesterday.
Like, they need to get him more touches.
I think we all agree.
It would be fun to see if he had more work.
This is just not the game, I think, to trust him.
Now, a lot of fantasy managers are going to be stuck because of injuries.
to start him, I think it's just, you're looking at, you see we're all kind of in the same
ranking range of low-end number two running back or high-end flex.
So not a complete must-sit, but just somebody I'd be a little bit concerned about.
And then in the case of Terry McClorney, actually has a pretty good history with Marcus
Mariota, at least last year.
I think in the five games they played together, three of them, he scored at least
14 and a half PPR points or more.
So not terrible, but you are still talking about Marioita against the Seattle defense and
Seahawks defense has been just great.
I think they're going to make things real uncomfortable.
I'm shocked when he, I don't know if that's a,
a correct ranking by sports line,
but 60 is telling.
Stefan Diggs has obviously been better.
You like that he had nine targets last week.
That was against Dallas.
We saw what it was in week one.
It wasn't pretty for McClorn.
So just off to a slow start.
Wouldn't surprise me if he has a decent day,
but just barely a starter in three receiver leagues for me,
or just a starter in three.
What about Diggs?
Diggs, I have one spot higher.
So it's kind of just,
I think when you look at the bears,
the commanders,
it's a little bit different with the Giants
because you know the history
of James and Williams with at least his past.
James Winston.
Why I keep saying James?
Yeah, no, I do it too.
James Winston and what he typically does for receivers.
So I'm a little bit more hopeful for Malik neighbors and Isaiah likely mostly,
and a lot of that has to do what they're playing the Titans this week.
But it's kind of just a little bit of a wait and see, you know,
because it's Mario and a new offense.
And that offensive line is beat up once again, even worse than it was coming into the season.
So I just don't have a lot of confidence in McLaurin and Diggins.
I mean, come on.
Jacoby Resett just threw for 95 yards against Seattle.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I mean, they're just so good.
So, yeah, McLaurin hasn't done enough.
I totally with you there.
All right.
And yeah, for Tutin, man, he's only got 28 of the 47 running that carries.
That needs to change.
But it's, yeah, really tough matchup.
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Oh, man, I forgot how wild that Benga.
Steelers game was last year.
Pat Friarmuth having a massive game
and it was like super late touchdowns.
It was a wild game.
I think it was a Thursday nighter.
It was one of the games of the year, actually.
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One question for each game.
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pricing depends upon program selection. News and notes. Jackson Dart out for the season.
Tyson Bajent has a concussion case Keenum could start.
That's a Monday night game.
And listening to Scott Turner talk with Dave yesterday,
he said usually when people exhibit the concussion symptoms after the game,
it's harder for them to clear the concussion protocol in time to play that week,
which is what happened with Tyson Bajant.
And Sam Darnold practice, he was limited.
He's got a chance to play this week at Washington.
Travis A. Chan has a hamstring injury.
That is Travis A. Chan.
I do think someone suggested calling him Travis E.
And that is not a bad idea.
the Broncos. We got Dobbins and Harvey Limited, and we have Jonah Coleman missing practice with an ankle injury.
Let's see if he practices on Thursday. Kyle Menangai was not seen a practice. They didn't release a report.
They play on Monday, but Menongai, a little banged up. Rico Dowdle day to day, Jonathan Brooks on IR, both Titans running backs missed practice.
Heath, is there a player to get in the Titans backfield at the Giants?
I wouldn't react too much to Wednesday.
I guess it'd be Singleton.
Yeah.
It just said they're both sore.
You know, so that was really one that didn't concern me.
It's a lot of other backfields that concern me.
Yeah.
Are we worried about Aaron Jones?
Yes.
Yeah.
In fact, I mean, the Vikes are worried about Aaron Jones.
Yeah.
I had all these bids in to drop to Mon Claiborne and then I cancel, cancel, cancel, cancel, and I don't know it would be him.
It could be DJ Dallas, too.
I picked up DJ Dallas in like 20 of my 28 leagues.
It's, you know, it was free.
and, you know, if you have Rodgers was about to play with, I would recommend doing something along those lines.
Emmanuel Wilson's also out there in a bunch of leagues, too. It sounds like Price is going to be fine.
But look, there's anytime you're going to get somebody that has the chance for starting job or volume,
why would you not take a chance?
It could be Jerome Ford for all we know.
I mean, he's on their practice squad and he's got, you know, the most experience of this group.
So they're going to elevate somebody, it sounds like, but it does not seem good for Aaron Jones.
Actually, I sent in, you know, for anybody that, you know, pays attention to our site, which we appreciate.
So we split up, starts it into positions, and then the whole column comes out later in the day.
And I had to retract Aaron Jones because I had him as a starter.
Okay.
And still no update on Saquan Barkley.
Judarian Price was limited, though, which is a good sign.
At wide receiver, Puka Nakua mispractice, they're being cautious to him.
They said it's not a hernia.
It's not a long-term thing, but he did not practice.
They faced Denver on Sunday night.
Michael Pitman was limited.
Ladd McConkey practiced in full, which we love to see.
Zay Flowers mispractice.
Malik Neighbors was limited.
Caleb Douglas mispractice and Chris Bell has a knee injury too.
He only has one or two targets this year, I think.
Mike Evans' mispractice, which was no surprise.
DJ Moore was limited and said he felt good.
Keon Coleman mispractice.
And Alec Pierce is actually not on IR yet if you're waiting as I speak right now.
He is going to be put on IR.
But if you're trying to put Alec Pierce in an IR spot, you have to wait a little
longer. Tight end news. Brock Bowers expected to play. Chigo Conquo mispractice again. Terrence Ferguson
was limited. Kobe Parkinson mispractice. Offensive line, Andrew Thomas doesn't have a serious
injury. Thankfully, I think he was limited yesterday for the Giants. The Lions should be getting
two starters back. I think that's a huge storyline for them against the Jets. Washington Guard,
Sam Cosme's in the concussion protocol. Chargers left tackle Rashon Slater was limited.
That we can't have him missed time. The Packers are going to be without two starting offensive.
of linemen tonight. We previewed that game yesterday. We're hoping that they come through,
but that's not good. And Baltimore left tackle, Ronnie Stanley, has been kind of in and out
of the games. He missed practice yesterday. I'm a little bit concerned tonight that Tucker Kraft
has to block too much. There was actually a story that came out that they considered
like playing him on the offensive line. Their offensive line was bad when it was healthy,
and it's not even kind of healthy.
And so just a little bit concerned.
I think, though, just to that point,
the story was because their three backups were forced to play.
So that's why they were getting concerned
about maybe having to use crap.
They have clearly made reinforcements for tonight.
So they should be okay in that regard,
unless just disaster happens.
Yeah, and even with all that, the Jets really,
I don't think the Jets blitz a lot,
so that's one thing,
but they really didn't get a lot of pressure against the Packers.
So that's good for the Lions if the Jets can't get pressure.
So that's in our preview slate today.
Let's do it.
One question for each game, Carolina at Cleveland.
Heath, who is the best flex of all the Cleveland Browns options?
So I think it's the Browns,
but they actually have some kind of appealing flex options.
And my favorite is Quinshawn Judkins.
I think we'll find out more about whether this Panthers defense is a really bad defense,
an average defense, a kind of bad defense,
but I'm optimistic that Judkins,
I think the Panthers are currently giving up the most yards per carry,
and when John Judkins may have the fewest yards per carry,
so it's the immovable object against the whatever.
But I think Judkins is a decent flex.
6.3 yards per carry allowed by the Panthers to running backs.
That would be DeAndre.
So misleading, though.
DeAndre Swift, Mangi,
Bijon and Brian Robinson all have done well on double-digit carries.
All right.
We'll see.
Would you start Quintan Jodkins or a Patriots running back?
Judkins for me.
Jitkins.
Okay.
How about Jamie,
Chargers at Bills.
Go right back to Ladd-McConkey?
Absolutely.
Yeah, as long as he's healthy, he should be a must-ar guy.
Any practice in full?
That's good stuff.
Heath, Patriots are at the Jagbars.
Who would you start over Drake May?
Where do you have, I guess you have him 14th?
And who would you start over him?
So I would start
The two guys you didn't draft as starters
are Tyler Shuck and Bryce Young.
So and most of the
I'd start, I don't love
Lawrence, but I'd start Lawrence and Burrow
and Mahomes and Purdy
obviously, but like I think
Purdy is one you have to say
because a lot of people drafted May as their starter
and may have had Purdy as their backup.
He wasn't always drafted as a starter.
How about like Gino Smith
and James Winston and anyone like
that over Drake May?
No.
Okay.
I'm very close.
I mean,
Gino's matchup is so good.
And he's had a better fantasy start to the season than Drake May.
Jamie, Cincinnati's at Pittsburgh.
Starters sit, D.K. Metcalf.
Starter in three receiver leagues, but barely.
You know, the targets have been great 19 targets in two games.
I just think this Bengals defense is much better than people gave it credit for coming into the season.
They made a lot of great additions.
And D.K. just looks like he's struggling right now.
So I would prefer to avoid him if you can't.
he was shadowed he was shadowed in both games by dj turner last year and he struggled in both games
yeah he uh 9.9 ppr points or less in both games yeah my personal opinion is that he actually he actually
was kind of a handful for turner um sometimes you get open quarterbacks don't see you that
happens but the guys i think teams aren't really going to throw at turner that much not to say that he's
like christian gonzalez like chris gonzalez smothered metcalf last week but he roger still threw him a few
times.
He did.
I think Metcalf is like one of those guys that it just kind of depends on how long of
a leash do you want to give him?
Because the underlying metrics is wide receiver 17 in target share and wide receiver 12
and air yard share.
And it's a team that's throwing the ball 40 times a game.
Like if he hadn't been so awful, we wouldn't even be having a discussion.
But he's been awful.
And so.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah, like it was predictable that he would struggle against Gonzalez.
We'll see what he does against Turner.
I anticipate another shadowing situation.
Houston is at the Colts, David Montgomery or Josh Downs Heath?
I think in full PPR it's going to be Josh Downs.
Yeah, it's a...
But the Colts, the Colts are so bad defensively, right?
I mean, they face the Ravens and the Chiefs,
but they've been so bad defensively.
They've been 140 or more rushing yards to both Derek Henry and Kenneth Walker.
All right, David Montgomery is Josh Downs.
He says Downs in full PPR.
What about half-P-R?
It'd probably be Montgomery.
Jamie made that comment.
It's so misleading on the Panthers.
And I was wondering, like, what's more misleading?
Saying a team has been so bad against the run against Bejohn and Swift and Mononghai
or against Ken Walker and Derek Henry.
Those teams have just had a terrible, terrible run to start the season.
Yeah.
Jets are at the Lions.
Starters at James and Williams, Jamie.
Starting through your CERR leagues, you know, you got to be hopeful with the last time they were at home, nine targets.
Hopefully that's the case again.
I don't think Dan Camden wants to stick it to Aaron Glenn, but it wouldn't be surprising if, you know, he just wants to get the offense, continue to keep the offense going because his defense is bad.
So I wouldn't be surprised as a shootout.
I do think the lion's offense is, our defense is as bad as we thought it was going to be.
And so you just got to hope that he connects with golf because you illustrated this going into week two.
there have been chances for him to make plays.
Gough has not thrown it to him.
Gough has not hit him because he's been under pressure.
As you just said, not a lot of pressure coming from the Jets.
So I think he said this earlier in the week or when you brought it up.
He's just the perfect number three wide receiver, like we said, going in the season.
There are going to be weeks where he just blows up.
This could easily be one of them.
There's going to be weeks like we saw the first two weeks where just does not deliver.
Hopefully we just don't get another one of those duds because then we're going to get a lot of frustration from him.
James and Williams are Josh Downs.
Downs.
I've got Williams, I think.
Rams at Broncos.
Is Devante Adams actually a sit this week?
No.
No chance.
Are you certain about that?
Yeah, even with that potential,
you can't.
Like, just think about the injuries we're dealing with.
Like, how are you sitting Devante Adams?
No, I know, I know.
You know, I can make this parallel of David Montgomery had three touchdowns in week one against the bills.
And then he was started in more than 90% of leagues.
And I had a bad feeling about him in week two.
And he had 24 total yards.
It was a total dud.
You know, matchups matter.
Devante Adams wasn't great and tough matchups last year.
Would you consider sitting him if Pooka and Akua played?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Kansas City is at Miami.
starter sit Rishi Rice.
Jamie said this like six times already on the show.
He's a starter number three wide receiver leagues and not in two.
But it looks like I'm the low guy on Rice this week.
He said this about Rice or about just people?
No, about different wide receivers on the show already.
Like James and Williams and like I think he's, wow, sportsline loves him.
Fourth.
That's the thing is like usually when I'm a ways away from Dave and Jamie, sports.
lines with me.
So that's, that's interesting.
Okay.
20th for Jamie, 25th for Heath,
32th for, or 25th for Dave,
32th for Heath, fourth for sports line on Rishi Rice.
I thought he looked better last week,
and hopefully that's a sign of things to come.
This just feels like a game,
and, you know, you say it's a trap game,
chiefs are coming off two amazing games.
First time they're on the road,
Dolphins first time they're home.
By trap game, I mean, like,
they win like a stupid game that they should,
you know, the 10-a-point favorites.
You know, that they don't,
destroy them like we all are expecting them to do. But if there is a get right spot, this is a
get right spot for Rice. I know the Dolphins numbers are good against opposing wide receivers.
It's because nobody has challenged them yet. And the chiefs may not. You know, so it's,
it's just one of those games. Like this could easily be Ken Walker, Emmett Johnson defense does its job
and you go home and don't worry about it. I just don't think the dolphins have anything that can stop Kansas
the city. So if this is get rice going, this is an easy week to get rice going.
And we'll get into the games now a little bit more in death. And we'll start with Carolina at
Cleveland. And I didn't give this stat, but Chuba Hubbard had 15 or more touches in six
games last season. And he scored 17.9 or more PPR fantasy points in four of those six games.
Because he scores a lot of touchdowns when he gets a lot of touches. And you go back to 2024,
when he got a lot of touch. He was great. He was top 12. So that's why Jamie loves,
that's one of the reasons why Jamie loves Chuba.
Hubbard.
As far as Bryce Young goes,
Jamie 9th, Dave 9th,
Heath 12th.
We like him.
Again, I want to see what happens
if he faces a team with a pass rush.
So far,
it's been the Falcons,
who actually, I guess,
have somewhat of a pass rush
according to the numbers.
And the Bears.
All right, I'll come back to,
we'll come back to Bryce Young.
I'm sure we have some Bryce Young questions.
He's now 90% rostered.
I'll wait for them in the chat.
Chuba Hubbard,
you know, 18th for Heath,
11th for Jamie.
You still like him,
Heath.
but I guess do you have any concerns?
No.
I guess if we're talking about him as an RB1,
my concern would be that Jonathan Brooks
really hasn't done anything yet,
even when he was healthy,
and he wasn't playing that much
and he wasn't getting that many touches,
and Chubu was still not getting 15 touches per game.
So I think you're starting him, undoubtedly.
Yeah, gotcha.
They've been just a very past heavy team.
It's,
it's,
I love it,
but it hasn't been great
in terms of touches
for Chuba Hubbard.
He does have three touchdowns
in two games, though.
Chuba Hubbard or Devon,
A-chan?
Hubbard.
A-chan.
Devon.
Carolina wide receivers are both must-start guys,
with Jalen Koker being
19th for Jamie,
22nd for Dave,
and 13th for Heath.
Yeah,
so we're going to start them.
Cleveland's defense was good last week.
It was bad in week one, really bad against the Jaguars.
It was good against the Buccaneers.
We'll see this is a really interesting matchup just to see what these two sides are.
It's so interesting.
It is, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just didn't think because I watched, I talked about Baker quite a bit earlier and last week.
And I didn't really see it as like Cleveland was making Tampa look bad.
They just were bad.
So maybe that'll prove wrong.
but that didn't change my opinion on the Browns defense too much.
I think they're probably pretty close to average.
They're going to be awful against really good offenses and fine against really bad offenses.
Yeah, no, I think that's a good point.
Any interest in Darren Waller?
Not really.
He's not a bad stash candidate if you have an open roster spot.
I mean, he should have three touchdowns through two games.
That's hard to overlook, especially if we're talking half or non-PPR.
So if at any point, and we kept waiting for this last year with the dolphins,
then he got hurt again.
If at any point they start to increase his workload,
then maybe we get more production.
But that just doesn't seem to be the case,
nor do they have to do that.
All right.
So, Heath, you, first of all,
you have the Sean Watson 15th,
which might be a little surprising.
I was just, you know,
I'm getting on the Atomazer fan club.
I know he's been one of your favorite players
in the NFL for the last decade.
Oh, gosh.
And he's averaging 30 rush yards per game.
I don't think.
this Carolina defense is one that you need to stay away from.
I'm encouraged by what the rookie wide receivers look like.
And I think Carolina is going to put up a...
This is one where the projections are probably disagreeing with Vegas just a little bit
because I think that 42 and a half over under is way too low.
Okay.
Carolina's defense was solid last year.
They were middle of the pack.
They arguably have faced the best offense in football.
in week one in the Bears and the worst offense
in football.
Stop it. No, I'm not stopping it at all.
I could say, yes.
The bear, yeah, I'm sorry that the bears struggled in rain and wind
against the Minnesota Vikings in week two.
They scored 59 points in week one.
They might have the best offense in football.
I don't know how we could even dispute that they might have the best
offensive football.
Okay.
All right.
Heath is the high guy on Watson.
Jamie and Dave have him like 22nd.
Judkins is a number two running back.
He's right around 24th for everyone,
but you did hear the case made by Heath,
and we talked about it earlier this week.
He's pretty involved in the passing game,
which is really encouraging.
He had five catches last week.
And in terms of Denzel Boston,
I can't imagine people were starting Concepcion,
but Jamie, what would you say about Denzel Boston this week?
Hi, in number three receiver.
You know, like you guys just said Watson's playing much better
than we anticipated, and Boston's a big reason why.
You know, so you can nitpick and say,
garbage time touchdown, week one against Jacksonville,
bounce off defenders, and week two against Tampa Bay.
He's making plays.
And that's what we love to see from rookie wide receivers early in the season
because we know they just continue to progress as the year goes on.
So hopefully the Panthers offense shows up.
Hopefully the Browns are chasing points.
Hopefully Boston continues to see right around six targets per game.
And there's always that chance for a huge blowout type of production.
So I don't think you should say must start yet.
Certainly must roster at this point.
And hopefully we just continue to get production from him.
because we need it at the receiver spot.
Jameson Williams or Denzel Boston?
Still Jamo.
Let's see, Bejel Tootin, Quintan Judkins,
that group of running backs that are right.
Or Denzel Boston?
The running backs.
I still got the running backs.
All right.
Harold Fanon Jr.
Starter said he wasn't bad last week.
10.4 fantasy points?
I missed it.
For what it's worth,
this is the team that has shut down Colston Loveland and Kyle Pitts.
Well, yeah, that's true.
But Cole Komett caught a touchdown.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah, all right.
Let's see what the chat is saying here.
You guys would start Dalton Schultz and Joanne Johnson, those waiver wire guys over Vannon.
Coker or Higgins?
Coker.
No, Higgins.
Waller or Gadsden?
Gadsden.
This is one.
I had Gadsden really high early in the week
and then all of a sudden Charlie Kohler's not going on IR
and so I don't
I think Charlie Kohler is out.
He's out but not going on IR so he's having surgery
He's going to be Gadsden. Okay. He's hoping to beat the four week timeline.
Okay.
Gadsden. Goker or Josh Downs?
Yes.
I like both this week. I go cocker.
Coker.
Bryce Young or James or James Winston?
Bryce.
Bryce.
I don't.
It sounds like people are.
are like just forgetting the last game for Jamo or James and James Winston.
And just think he's going to be what he was a few years or I guess last year.
But I don't want to start James James, James Winston at all.
James Winston and Jameson Williams are almost Travis and Devon A. Chan at this point.
Younger Kyler Murray.
Yeah.
Younger Stroud.
Yeah.
Corum or Judkins, PPR.
Judkins.
Judkins.
Here's a tough one.
Younger Shuck.
Shuck.
Judkins or Travion Henderson
Judkins
but we could look stupid for that one
Judkins
You already look stupid
Dibbo or Denzel Boston
FPPR
I think I moved Dibo
one spot ahead of Boston
but that's close
especially if Evans is out
It's easy Dibo
That's the
distinguishing thing for me
And pick two here
Quinchon Judkins
Beasel Tootin or
Jeremiah Love
Judkins and Tudan.
Sit love.
Sit that whatever you just did.
If you're going to sing it, why don't you just play it?
Because I don't know.
Matthew Golden or Denzel Boston.
Because you want to sing.
Yeah.
Hey guys.
I got my guitar.
Golden.
Golden.
All right.
That's it for this game.
And Carolina's DST is not in the top 12.
So we're not buying into it this week.
Chargers at Bills, but we're going to take a break
and then we'll see if the Chargers offense can show up.
We know the Bills offense will.
We'll be right back on fantasy football today.
Chargers at Bills.
Oh, this should have been such a battle of two and O teams
that were just firing on all cylinders.
We had another tight end have more than six targets against the Bills.
That has happened twice so far with Dalton, Schultz, and Sam Leporta.
It did not happen once in 2025.
So that's interesting.
of course teams are throwing a lot.
But Gadsden, you know, Gadsden five or more targets in nine games last year, Heath,
and he scored double-digit PPR fantasy points in six of them.
So I think you want to make the case for Gadsden.
Yeah, I don't know where the rank it's going to show on the screen that my ranking is,
because I've moved Gadsden all over the place this week.
But I think he is definitely in the streaming conversation.
This team has thrown more than 20% of their passes to their tight ends.
And while they didn't really like him, it seems like at camp,
They don't have anybody left to play over him.
So he should be on the field quite a bit on passing downs at least.
And they're certainly not going to have him blocking.
So I think I'd rather start him over Harold Fannon.
Okay.
And yeah, over Harold Fannon.
Over Coulson Loveland?
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
And then, Jamie, I wanted to bring this up.
DJ Moore ran 81% of the routes in week one,
but he only had a 50% route participation rate last week in the
first quarter. He got hurt in the second quarter. I was watching and I was so frustrated by it.
He does not play in 13 personnel. That's Keon Coleman, who is injured, by the way.
And coming into this game with an injury, it looks like he's trending in the right direction.
Do you think DJ Moore is a must start this week?
He's a definite starter in three receiver leagues. I think you got to start him in two receiver
leagues if he's healthy just based on the upside. I don't really worry about what happened in the
first quarter, first quarter before a guy got hurt because you never know how the script is
going to go and what they're trying to do in the start of the game.
and then how things changed.
They're not keeping DJ Moore off the field.
That would just be dumb.
So I think Heath brought this up or Dave brought this up.
He went into week two a little bit banged up also.
So that could have had something to do with it for what happened after week one.
So as long as DJ Moore plays, he practiced yesterday in a non-contact jersey.
So like you said, trending in the right direction, I'm starting DJ Moore.
If you had this decision to make, would you start Jalen Koker or DJ Moore?
Coker.
How would start Koker?
Do we take this Chargers defense seriously?
It hasn't really been that.
good, but it was pretty elite by the end of last year. I mean, we just think the bills are going to light
them up. Light them up. I mean, the bills lit up to Texans with, I don't want to say, minimal trouble,
but, you know, they lit up the Texas. Yeah, they killed them. You know, they beat up the lions,
but I think a lot of teams are going to beat up the lions. I don't think the charges are playing
very well right now. And, you know, the biggest difference, at least from what you can attribute it to
is maybe a coordinator change. So it's it's just, yeah, if the, the four main bills that you drafted
as starters are probably going to, or if you want to throw Kincaid in there, but I would, the four main
bills should be started. So Alan Cook Moore and, and Kincaid. And I think if more is out,
then you can take shots on either Coleman or Shakir. Right. And again,
Coleman missed practice yesterday. Every time that guy has something that positive, just something bad
happens. I feel so terrible for him.
If Moore was out, he looked really good.
He did. Yeah, he had a good game.
He played a ton when more left.
Start us at Justin Herbert, Heath.
So I've got him as a sit.
I think we all have him as a sit. I'm the lowest on him.
I think he's currently at 17 or
18.
If you are basing your
rankings and projections on what has happened
so far and what Vegas expects to happen
in this game, it's hard to be excited about
starting Justin Herbert. I do think narrative-wise, the bills have given up huge numbers to two
quarterbacks. The chargers are 0 and 2 back against the wall. This should be a really good
Justin Herbert game. I don't like the West Coast team traveling to Buffalo for a 1 p.m. game.
I'm staying away. Jamie, you have him seven spots higher because Heath has Herbert 20th.
You have him 13th. He's 18th now. 18th, sorry. Yeah. But still five.
five spots higher. So he just did make a pretty good case for him. You know, all those things
factoring in here. Of course. Yeah. I mean, this is, I think several players. You know, you have
him, you have Rashi Rice. You have, you know, these guys that were drafted as starting options that
are just struggling or terrible right now. And Herbert looks bad. You know, everything that I thought
was going to happen with the tackles being back and Mike McDaniel being there has gone completely
poof. You know, it's just terrible. It's terrible for, for.
for the way that things have gone.
Now, that being said,
I thought he played much better in a week one
when Ladd-McConkie was on the field,
hopefully getting McConkey back
because it was disjointed a little bit last week
from a practice standpoint.
But this is an opportunity.
This is a get-right game.
It's funny to say that because they just played
the Cardinals and the Raiders and he looked bad,
and you would think that those were the two layups
looking at what the schedule looks like.
So this would be the scenario of
he comes out, plays well.
You look at the Caleb Williams,
Jaden Daniels, Jackson Dart manager,
and whoever they picked up, and if that guy stinks,
you try and trade Justin Herbert if you have a good backup
because then they're playing Seattle in week four.
So it's probably not going to be great for him in week four.
So this is the spot that he has to play well.
Otherwise, you got to consider cutting.
And if you need a number three receiver or a flex or something,
who's better, let's say DJ more plays.
Khalil Shakir or Quentin Johnston?
I'd still take a chance on Johnston over Shakir,
but that's where we are.
Probably Shakir for me.
Gosh, Quentin Johnston.
Oh, just so bad.
Been a whole slew of reasons why he hasn't really caught any passes.
I mean, he's got 13 targets and he has three catches.
We've got a drop.
We've got off target throws.
We've got deflected passes.
We've got good coverage.
We've got this and that.
It's been a horrible start.
He is one of two wide receivers this season to have at least 10 targets
and a catchable target rate below 70%.
Yeah.
Geez.
The other one's Malachi Fields.
It's not entirely on Herbert because two of those balls were batted down at the line of scrimmage,
although that could be on Herbert.
Well, of course it's not entirely.
No, it never is.
Am I sitting Quentin Johnson for either Trey Tucker or Donavian Wicks asks Tofu?
Yes. Tucker.
Okay.
All right.
And then Dalton Kincaid is a top five tight end, top three, I think, for Dave and Jamie.
Would you start him over Brock Bowers this week if you had both?
Yes.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's read some questions here and we'll move on.
Quentin Johnston or Ramandre Stevenson, PPR.
Ramonjah.
Yep.
O'Mary and Hampton or Camstadaboo.
Hampton.
That one is back to back for me, but Hampton.
Herbert or Kyler?
Herbert.
Kyler for me.
Gadsden or Loveland?
We said Gadsden.
How do you rank the bill's past catchers?
I guess give me scenarios in DJ Moore and out.
Heath.
Kincaid Moore Shakir.
Kincaid Shakir Coleman.
I would go Coleman over Shakir if Moore's out.
I go Shakir over Coleman if more's in.
Gotcha. Herbert or Love?
Love.
Hampton or Bucky Irving?
Ooh, good question.
Hampton.
Yeah.
Bucky.
All right.
Bucky with that tough matchup.
Dalton, Schultz or Dalton Kincaid?
Kingade.
Schultz.
All right.
Herbert or golf?
Goff.
Gough.
I'm finished with this game.
Although, are we starting a DST in this game?
No.
New England is at Jacksonville, and Drake May is about 15th in the rankings.
If you want to hear who we're starting Drake May over, please go back to one question for each game.
So far, Jacksonville has held Deshawn Watson and Bo Nix to right around 16 fantasy points and six point per passing touchdown leagues.
Which running back do you like better for the Patriots, Jamie?
I have them back to back.
Ramandre one spot ahead.
This was a rare occurrence where Trevion played more snack.
than Ramandre, another fumble for Ramandre.
So this is one of those games where we'll see how they approach these guys
and do they decide to make the switch of finally giving Trevion more chances
because Ramandre has looked sluggish through the first two weeks.
But my guess is that Ramandre will still play on passing downs,
and that's going to give them an edge, I think, in this game.
It's tough to run on Jacksonville.
So I know Jonah Coleman had a positive fantasy game last week,
but this is a really good run defense.
So if you can avoid them, try to avoid them.
All right, Patriots wide receivers.
Romeo Dobbs is still not cracking the top 30, 36th, I think, for Jamie,
43rd, 42nd for Heath and Dave.
That's Romeo Dobbs.
Kind of a weird number on him.
In week two, there were 87 wide receivers who ran at least 20 routes.
Romeo Dobbs ranked 82nd in average route depth.
Very, very low average route depth for Romeo Dobbs.
But he was ninth in Adopt.
He had a couple of plays where Drake May scrambled,
then he got behind the defense.
I think it was one of them was definitely like that,
and then he hit him for a big play.
But he wasn't a downfield guy.
It was just kind of weird.
All right.
So would you start Denzel Boston over Romeo Dobbs?
Yep.
Yeah.
Trey Tucker over Romeo Dobbs?
Yep, yep.
Okay.
It's interesting, you know, with Bowers back.
Okay.
He's just been awful.
Well, he had 80 yards last week.
But I think he had 90.
96, 96.
Yeah, but it was on four targets.
Yeah.
but only 22 past times for me
he's a good he's a good depth
player on your team right now if you're stuck a receiver
I think you can start him in three receiver leagues
like I'd start him over DK Metcalf
he's you know just just as productive
in one game as Metcalf has been
basically in two so I think
you're looking at tough matchup
it's not easy for him
I just think he bounced back last week
for what how bad he was in week one
and is going to probably get
more opportunities this week because I wouldn't be surprised
the Patriots chasing points.
And Hunter Henry.
I don't know why I thought he'd be a little higher,
but Heath, you've got him 11th, I think, Hunter Henry.
So that's Jamie 16th, Dave 19th, 11th for you on Hunter Henry,
who led the team in targets last week.
Yeah, and I don't, I'm not excited about Hunter Henry,
but I think he's probably going to score around 10 fantasy points.
I love a lot of these like replacement tight ends this week.
So Fryer Muth, you heard me say this a billion times.
like I love his matchup against Cincinnati.
I think Terrence Ferguson's got a huge opportunity once again.
If Puka's out as we expect, you have Arana Gadsden who we just spoke about.
So Henry's in that mix for sure.
And so if you are expecting a better performance than what we saw last week, which I think is certainly possible,
he should be rostered in a little bit more leagues than he is because there's going to be
opportunities for him to continue to, if not lead the team in targets, be close to it
because of A.J. Brown being out.
57% rostered Hunter Henry.
And who's your favorite of those guys,
Gadsden and who else is it,
Henry?
Ferguson, for me, with
Puka out, if Pooka's in, it would be Firmouth.
Okay.
Heath, do you think the Jaguars are going to
score a lot on the Patriots?
What kind of game do you think we're going to get from the Jaguars?
I'm not super optimistic about them scoring a lot.
I think it's probably a game.
where they're somewhere between 21 and 27.
Yeah.
Over under is what, 45 and a half.
So they're implied totals 24.
That sounds about right.
I should have asked this question.
Drake May or Trevor Lawrence.
Who's the best quarterback in this game?
Lawrence.
But I don't really love either one.
Yeah, I mean, Trevor Lawrence had a tough matchup last week,
and he struggled.
17 of 29 for 189 yards.
He scored 6.2 fantasy points at Denver.
Patriots are good, man.
They have a really good defense.
Their coverage on the Steelers guys was unbelievable.
There was just no one open.
This is a different animal, though.
Is Parker Washington the only must start for the Jaguars?
Is he even a must start?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
Okay.
He's not going.
He'll avoid Gonzalez, so that's a positive.
I think you just look at it.
Like, Lawrence had his nine-game streak of 23,
Fantasy points were more snapped against Denver.
Great call by Heath.
He was, you know, I think the lowest on Lawrence.
They've allowed the Patriots have only allowed one quarterback in their last nine regular season games to have multiple touchdowns.
And that was Josh Allen.
Now, they played a lot of crappy quarterbacks starting that stretch.
I'll take that into account.
But I think you just look at Lawrence and lower your expectations.
So low-end starter at best.
And behind Tyler Schock and Bryce Young and those guys.
Gino Smith or Trevor Lawrence?
What do you say ahead of?
Behind, behind them, behind.
Behind them.
Lawrence for him.
Lawrence or Gino?
Yeah, I'm not there with Gino, yeah.
Okay.
So Parker Washington's a must start.
Brian Thomas Jr. is not.
But I will say this about Brian Thomas Jr.
before you give up on him.
He is getting targeted.
He only had three targets in week one,
but he missed some time in that game.
And he had a 24.1% target per route run rate with Trevor Lawrence.
In week two, it was 35%.
And he ran 75% of the routes, basically.
So, you know, I think maybe, I don't know.
I maybe be patient, but like we always say with him, the schedule sucks.
It's pretty clear who Lawrence is favoring right now in the past game.
Yeah.
It's the guys we want to see, you know, because Myers is not getting targets.
Strange is not getting targets.
Travis Hunter is barely playing on offense.
The running backs are not involved in the passing game.
So I think you've got to be confident to some degree about Brian Thomas.
Like you said, once we get past this brutal stretch of games for him.
But you've got to be patient.
He's such a downfield guy.
It's just, it's like all chunk plays basically with him.
And sometimes he doesn't catch them.
Are we trying to get away from the Patriots DST?
Are we cool starting them?
I would try to get away from it if you can.
Would you pick up the chiefs over the Patriots?
Easily.
I would.
What's the Patriots?
Who are the Patriots?
I always hate dropping good, good defenses because of one bad matchup.
They got the bills next week.
Yeah, so I think you can drop them.
Okay.
But then they have the Raiders and the Jets.
But yeah.
All right.
Let's get some questions from the chat for this game.
Parker Washington or Christian Watson?
Washington.
Yep.
Hunter Henry or Kyle Pitts?
I'm going Henry.
Young or Lord.
The last time Pitts played on Thursday night game.
Yes.
Best game ever for a tight end.
We're going Bryce Young over Trevor Lawrence.
Remandre, Stevenson, or Matthew Golden in PPR?
Golden.
Yep.
Bejel Tootin or Josh Downs and half PPR?
Downs.
Tootin.
I skipped Tootin.
Sorry.
We talked about him earlier.
He was a player Jamie wanted to avoid.
Please listen to that portion of it.
He's like a borderline number two running back.
Just a really terrible matchup.
Drake May or Kyler,
Kyler?
I've got my...
Parker, Washington, or Jalen Koker?
Parker.
Very close, but Parker.
Hunter, Henter.
Mark Andrews, Harold Fannin, pick one.
Andrews.
Andrews, if no, Zay. Henry, if Zay, plays.
Stevenson or Tutton?
I'd go Stevenson.
Tutton. Basel Tootin, Terry McLoren,
Rashad Bateman. Who do you pick?
Bateman.
Even if Flowers plays?
Bateman.
Bateman if Flowers plays, or is out,
Tutton, if Flowers plays.
His real feelings came out there.
Cincinnati's at Pittsburgh.
Joe Burrow.
Any concerns about Burrow?
He's got like 36 fantasy points in two games.
I mean, he's, you know,
he's getting lucky that all these quarterbacks are injured
and Drake May sucks.
Like, otherwise, I think we'd be very frustrated
about Joe Burrow and our shares in him.
But you know the potential got you two touchdowns last week
against Houston.
Hopefully that's something that we continue to see.
I don't love the fact that he still
bothered by this back injury that, you know,
Zach Taylor said he was sore and the Steelers' defense,
we know at times could be one of the best
in football creating pressure. So he's still
a starter, but he's not a top five guy.
We should have done a better job
of like preparing
people for this. This is what the Bengals
do the first couple weeks of the season.
It's true.
They've been bad.
Did they lose? Yes. Yeah. So
I just kind of expect them to get it
together. I'd start him over Lawrence. I'd start
him over Bryce Young. I'd start him over Drake May.
you're going to start him.
Would you start him over Tyler Shuck?
I would start Shuck over him.
That's what I thought.
Jamie, how do you go Shuck, Bryce Young, Joe Burrow?
Burrow, Shuck, Young.
Okay.
Start Chase Brown.
Mostly because I'm not making a transaction
to pick up somebody else if I have, bro.
Fair.
Start, yeah, you know what?
I felt the same exact way.
It's a guy who has some Burrow shares.
Start Jamar Chase.
T. Higgins is basically where you drafted him.
What?
What, Higgins?
Yeah, you just, eh.
I got to tell you, man, I know this is going to sound crazy,
and I don't know the reason for it,
and I was talking to Dave about it.
I don't know if he'd want me to share this,
but I'm going to share it.
We both kind of came to the same conclusion.
T. Higgins did not look good last week.
I know he had a big game.
He was just wide open on some plays over the middle.
It was weird.
He just didn't look good.
I'm not really treating that as anything,
but my radar, my antenna's up a little bit there.
I'm still starting Higgins everywhere.
He's one of my favorites.
It's funny you say that because they did something that nobody has done in two years.
It's true.
They did.
26 games, I think it was.
They scored, both of them scored more than 12 points.
Yeah.
So if that's him not looking good, I'll take that.
I know.
He had five catches for 95 yards on 10 targets.
It doesn't really matter, but let's, I guess I'm just curious what the heck is going on there.
Don't start Gassiki.
Don't start Rogers.
All right.
Heath talked about Jalen Warren earlier as a player he loves,
but let's just do it one more time.
Heath, Warren with and without Rico Duttle,
how do you feel about him against a team that so far
is one of the best run defenses in football against Bucky Irving?
Well, Bucky, you know, it was fine,
but killed the Montgomery and Woody Marks.
But anyway, yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, I think that Warren will be good in the way that Bucky was,
which is catching a lot of passes.
So he is a high-end RB2 if RICO's out.
he's a mid to low end
RB2 if Rico plays
if Rico plays he's a PPR flex
I think you also look at it
it's not just what Bucky did in the past game
so what he marks did in the passing game last week too
so you know both those guys
kind of gave you the blueprint I think of how
running backs are going to have to win against this Bengals defense
is Jalen Warren a better start than D.K. Metcalf
Yes
with or without Rico Doudal
yes
do you think
TK. K. Metcalf cracks double-digit fantasy points in this game.
Right around there?
Yep.
Okay.
Michael Pittman, if he plays, we're going to sit and we've got to see something there.
And then Friermouth, Jamie, you got him 14th.
You're the high guy on Friermouth.
You've talked about it.
Great history.
This team struggled,
great history against the Bengals.
This team struggled against the tight end last week.
And Friamuth is still pretty involved in the offense.
And Darnow, Washington really isn't.
like darno washington kind of had some games last year and they had john new smith as well
where they were mixing in it's not really happening that much so far let's see if we have questions
about this game it's pretty it's not really a question well i don't know if uh sam start or not
thomas but joshavos is out with a thumb injury and does that help kaseki it's worth
keeping an eye on i don't know if anybody's going to start kaseki you shouldn't but if he has another
big game that would be two of three and now they're a third receiver's not there
I guess so.
I mean,
Yoshibos,
how many targets is Yoshibos?
It's just,
you know,
he'll be,
I'm sure,
on the field more.
He has four.
Bangles or Steelers,
DST?
Bengals.
I think I have the Steelers
just a little bit higher.
Burrow or Purdy?
Pretty.
T. Higgins or Jamo?
T.
T.
Chase Brown or Javante?
Chase.
Yep.
Bangles or Patriots,
DST.
Bengals.
I think the Patriots are.
Moving on.
Let's go to Houston at Indianapolis.
Although I should say that Pittsburgh's DST is 11th for Dave, ninth for Heath, and 14th for Jamie.
So you don't have to get away from them.
They look like a pretty good defense even without Joey Porter Jr.
All right, Houston at Indianapolis.
Let's see.
They also played Cooper Rush.
They did play Cooper Rush and they played Drake.
It's true.
I don't really know what to make of their defense.
I could see the Bengals light.
Lighten him up, let him up.
C.J. Stroud.
What do you think about the Texans against this Colts team?
Do we have some sleepers on this team?
Because I'm assuming Niko's not going to play at this point.
It's just so hard to say which is the best receiver.
Obviously, Dalton Schultz has become, I don't know,
for everybody, a must-start guy.
We haven't ranked that way.
So coming off the game that he had and being second at the position of targets,
it's hard to say he's not a must-start option.
I still like Xavier Hutchinson the best of the receivers
just based on the three-game sample size
of the last two years of no Nico Collins.
The targets that he's got six or more targets
and just had nine targets.
So didn't connect last week against Cincinnati,
but this Colts defense is so bad.
There's chances for him to make plays here.
But when you had Wayne with seven targets
and Booty was involved,
and the other way to spell Jalen, Jalen,
Jalen was involved also.
what he marks out of the back.
There's just so many guys that are being used here.
So I think if you're looking at it,
like this could be a surprise start for CJ Stroud.
Like I had to pick up CJ Stroud in one league where I lost Jane Daniel.
So I'm hopeful the matchup will be in his favor,
as it has been for the first two quarterbacks that have faced this defense.
I just don't know if this is going to be a David Montgomery three touchdown game again
because it wouldn't surprise me if it is.
We've talked about, I haven't asked you this already.
We've talked about Bejel Tootin Ramandre Stevenson,
Quinchan Judkins.
these guys are borderline RB2s.
Is David Montgomery ahead of them?
Yes.
He's right in the mix for me.
Okay.
It's very encouraging.
They have five catches in two games, too.
Yeah, and they're splitting third downwork, both games, evenly,
Woody Marks and David Montgomery pretty evenly anyway.
Colts defense has been terrible.
We'll see if that was a matchup thing or not.
Dalton Schultz is the guy you're going to start.
Hutchinson, like, you know, as of yesterday,
he was 7% rostered, and that's definitely a guy that if I'm looking at my roster on Sunday,
and I'm just, I hate my wide receiver.
I really need someone.
I've got Zay Flowers and he's ruled out or something like that.
I do think Hutchinson can be good.
He gets targeted.
And again, he should have had.
He got open for a 40-yard touchdown, and C.J. Straud missed him in the end zone.
We have a lot of, like, potential game time decisions looming or Friday decisions that we're
going to, you know, have to keep an eye on.
Travis A. Chan now could be banged up.
Mike Evans.
Aaron Jones, like, I just think it could be a good flex.
Tyler Warren or Dalton Schultz?
Schultz.
Yeah.
Okay.
Start Jonathan Taylor.
And how much do you like Josh Downs this week, Jamie?
He's right around 20th for me.
I'm, you know, excited to see him as the lead guy.
You know, we saw it in the Chiefs game after Al Giers went down.
Nine targets, seven catches, 72 yards.
He's going to, you know, do a variety of things for this team.
We'll see what Dary Slate.
and the role is, we'll see how
Keenan Allen, we had five or six targets
last week, didn't do much with it.
But this is the guy, I think that we're going to
see Daniel Jones lean on, and I think he's
going to be productive. When he's been healthy, he's been a very good
sort of borderline
number two, number three fantasy receiver,
and this is his best opportunity
to succeed. So,
the Texan secondary has not played up
to par. I don't know if that's just because of who they played,
you know, Josh Allen and Joe Burrow.
So it's a little bit concerning that
you know, Daniel Jones hasn't been great.
I thought he did a good job,
just didn't have the stats to back it up,
but did a good job last week against the Chiefs.
So if they can move the ball,
I think Josh Downs is going to be a reason why.
Okay.
Let's see if we have any Josh Downs questions in the chat.
Josh Downs are, oh, I asked Josh Downs or David Montgomery earlier.
It could be a format thing.
All right, here we got Warren or Kittle?
Warren, but that could change if Evans is out.
Warren.
This week and rest of season,
Josh Downs or Luther Burden?
If I have to make it like an absolute, it would be Josh Downs.
I'll say Downs definitely for this week.
Schultz or Tucker Craft?
Schultz.
Yep.
Montgomery or Malik Neighbors?
Wow.
I want to say Montgomery.
Yeah, I think so.
Montgomery or Giovante Williams?
Javante, Buzzcloth.
Javante.
Would you start Josh Downs over Brock Bowers,
Ameca, Abuka, or Jalen Waddle?
Definitely over a Buka, not the other two.
I have down...
Just behind those guys.
Okay.
Kyler Murray or C.J. Stroud?
I think I have them back-to-back.
Murray right now.
Kyle.
We got three games left.
Here we go. Jets are at the Lions.
Jets 22nd and pressure rate so far.
Lions should be getting two starting offensive linemen back this week.
We'll start with the Jets.
Start Breece Hall, Stark Garrett Wilson.
Adonai Mitchell or
Xavier Hutchinson if Neagle Collins is out?
Mitchell.
Adonai Mitchell or Emeka Abuka?
Not there yet.
Okay.
Adonai Mitchell or Ramandre Stevenson
and Bejel Tootin and Quinchan Judkins, those guys.
Not there yet.
Yeah.
Okay, so those guys.
Mark Mitchell over like D.K. McCaff and Quintchon Judkins
and obviously Marvin Harrison,
like there's, there are certainly players that you'd
after that you can start Mitchell over.
I would only start him.
Of all those names, Harrison,
to be the only one I would start him over.
I'd start him over, Brian Thomas, too.
Gino Smith, look, the Lions have been one of the worst defenses in football.
There's just no question.
They've allowed three touchdown passes in each of their first two games.
Gino Smith is 18th for Jamie, 21st for Dave,
and I don't think in the top 24 for Heath.
It's a risk, obviously.
He hasn't played poorly, but he hasn't put up big numbers yet.
Didn't have to in week one.
And, you know, against the, I still think a decent defense last week in the weather.
In the weather.
You know, it was 17 fantasy points.
It was overtime.
But this is a great DFS play.
It's a great super flex, two quarterback play.
And if you missed because everybody in your league had backup quarterbacks and you lost Daniels and you lost DART and you lost Caleb, like, this is not a bad.
I'll play the matchups and see how it goes.
Like or love Jared Gough this week, Heath?
Um, so I would say love.
He's, he's QB5 for me.
He's right in a range with a bunch of guys from like five through eight.
But he's, I'm not starting Tyler Shuck over him.
So.
Okay.
We're bullish on Jared golf.
Both Heath and Jamie have him top five.
Start Gibbs, start St.
Brown.
We talked a lot about James and Williams earlier.
I think, I guess I'll call my shot here.
I think he's going to have a big game.
Yeah.
It's just, you know, nobody.
he's on a buy. So being a top 30 wide receiver, I think it's still, it's pretty good. And he's
top 30 for everyone. Eventually he's going to have a big game. I said that I feel confident in.
It should have been week one. He had a couple of drops or otherwise it would have a huge game in
just one. Listen, great example. I have Trey Tucker in several leagues. He was on my, in my starting
lineup over Debo Samuel and the Scott Fishbowl in week one. I started Debo in week two and
Trey Tucker blew up. The JMO is exactly like he's a,
better version, but you can't sit James and Williams because he's had a bad gamer or two.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And Sam Laporta is a top five tight end. Jets, for what it's worth,
did a good job against Tucker Kraft last week, two catches for 15 yards, but Laporta is rolling
a little bit here. He's been around 50 yards, both games. He's caught a touchdown in week two.
All right, real quick, see if we have any questions here. Gough for Justin Herbert. We're going
golf. Sit one of these guys. Adonai Mitchell.
Ramandre Stevenson, Xavier Hutchinson.
Hutchinson.
Hutchinson.
Adonai Mitchell, Denzel, Boston, Romo Dunzee.
Who do you like?
Boston.
Boston.
Would you start Jared Gough over Brock Purdy or Bryce Young?
Over Bryce, not Purdy.
Purdy, Goff, Young.
Yep.
Adonai Mitchell, Luther Burden, Bateman, Wicks, or Godwin?
I'd go Mitchell.
I'm sorry, I'd go Bateman, excuse me.
I would go Bateman if Z, Z,
Zay is out.
Jared Gough or Jalen Hertz.
Golf.
Gawf.
Jamo or neighbors?
Neighbors for now.
Yeah.
Rams or Broncos?
Rams.
Tough one here.
Tough one.
Kiron Williams is the number 11 running back in fantasy,
but he is 23rd among running back in touches.
He is scoring touchdowns, thank goodness.
Also, you should know,
Bo Nix has eight carries in two games.
That's not bad.
Four of them were kneel downs,
and one of them he recovered his own fumble.
So right now,
Bo Nix only has three actual carries in two games.
I'd like to see a little bit more work in the run game for Bo Nix.
Okay, a starter said Matthew Stafford, Jamie.
Low end starter.
In that behind Chuck, behind Bryce Young,
right in the same range as like Herbert for me.
it's tough much much more difficult matchup light years worse than last week against the
giants and as of now we're not expecting pukinakuwa to play is kairn williams just an easy start
or are we missing a big picture here heath easy start i think he's an easy start because we start
two running backs he's not he is ranked lower for me than he was in the preseason and um like the
Denver defense, run defense hasn't been good.
But I don't think they're as bad as they were week one.
And so he started him as an RB2.
He has one more carry than Blake Corum this season.
But you know what he does.
He scores.
He's his touchdown producer.
Denver so far, actually bad against the run.
Most of that, though, Ken Walker in week one,
where they just forgot how to play football.
And Chuba Hubbard or Kairn Williams?
Chuba.
Chuba.
All right, Devante Adams,
where are you going to rank him with and without Puka Nakua?
You showed the rankings earlier that's without Puka.
So 12 for me, I think it was 10th for Heath, I'm not mistaken.
If Puka plays, he's probably like 18, 19.
I was going to say 20.
All right.
I'm going to start them.
I haven't been so many leads.
I'm starting Devante Adams, but I'm nervous.
God will be great if he can come through here.
It doesn't sound like Puga's playing, though.
I know.
But again, he's going to get shadowed by Sartan, and it's going to be tough.
Sartan is the best.
He is the best of the best.
Last year, Denver held, now some of these names are good, some aren't.
McConkey, Michael Pittman, T. Higgins, Jamar Chase, A.J. Brown, Rishie Rice, Garrett Wilson,
Jacoby Myers, Brian Thomas Jr., all of them scored fewer than 10 fantasy points in PPR.
It happens.
If Pook is out, Terrence Ferguson is where, Heath?
Right around 12 that tied in for me.
Jamie?
Same.
Same.
Okay.
If Pook is in, Terrence Ferguson is?
Stash.
On the bench.
All right.
Let's see what the roster ship is for Terrence Ferguson.
25%.
If Pook is out, would you start Terrence or Jake Ferguson?
Terrence.
You're going to sip O'Nicks, I assume?
Yep.
Yes.
Start Jalen Wattle?
Number two is here.
Yep.
Waddle or Adams
Adams?
Adams
Waddle if
Puga Place
I'll probably have Adams and Waddle
back to back if Puga Place
What movie is Adams College in?
I don't know
Adams College
Yeah they play football
We got the football team there
It's Booger and Ogre
And all of the Revenge of the Nerds
How are we looking at the Broncos?
Oh, do you think Dan seen Revenge of the Nerds?
No chance.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I'm not sure he's heard of it.
J.K. Dobbins, R.J. Harvey, Jonah Coleman.
Two of them were limited, one mispractice.
Heath, what the hell are we doing with the Denver running backs this week?
If Dobbins is active, then he is the best Broncos running back.
We're projecting to play right now.
He's right around RB30 for me.
So he's a flex behind Remandre-Stevenson, who we don't really want to start either.
And remember, in week one, they didn't.
didn't have their sleep.
And they didn't have Aaron Donald.
We saw the Rams run the Rams
defensive line was just
an absolute nightmare last week.
And didn't even have Miles Garrett.
This is going to be a tough team to run on, I think.
And Sid Evan Engram.
What are we doing with the DSTs in this game, Jamie?
I would just start them.
You know, much more encouraged by the Rams
because I think Bo Nex is going to struggle
with this defense.
He played better than I anticipated last week
against Jacksonville's defense, but still not great.
So I just think you start them.
All right.
Waddle, by the way, kind of a weird note on him.
He had a 65% slot rate in week one,
down to 26% in week two.
That was, I don't get the usage there.
Kansas City's at Miami.
This is our last game.
Heath, I think pretty easy game here,
Start Walker.
We talked about Rishi Rice.
Go back to one question for each game
if you want the Rishi Rice analysis.
He's a start,
but maybe a reluctant one, especially for Heath.
Mahomes, he's like, wow, did he look great on Sunday night?
However, what's the concern level of him just not needing to do anything here and not putting up numbers?
Pretty low, just because I think they'll probably score four touchdowns before he comes out of the game.
Two of them.
Like, they're still doing some of the inside the tin Andy Reid stuff.
and I think it
like Ken Walker's awesome
he's a top four or five running back
rest of season but for the benefit
of Patrick Mahomes and maybe Rashi
Rice and Travis Kelsey I think
it might matter a little bit that they got stuffed
at the goal line a couple of times last
week because that offense
prefers to do crazy stuff
inside the 10 as opposed to just hand it off
and now they have license to
so how about Bryce Young and Tyler Shuck
versus Patrick Mahomes
Mahomes?
Mollins.
Yeah.
The Dolphins allowed three touchdowns to Kirk Cousins.
They allowed three total touchdowns to Brock Purdy.
Pertie was at one point, I don't know what he finished.
He was 20 to 22 throwing the ball.
Like this defense stinks.
This team is so bad.
Yeah, they are.
Patrick Mahomes last year he had four games where he played
and they won by 14 or more of more than 14 points.
And he threw 37, 37, 35, and 35.
four passes.
But this year, he threw only 27 passes in week one.
He still had a good game, though.
That's enough.
I hope so.
I think so.
I think it's early for this, but it wouldn't surprise me based on some of the things,
the narratives that came out, especially from him, if he's haunting the MVP.
And this is a Pad your stats game.
Can you win MVP and comeback player the year in the same year?
It's him, so sure.
And no wide receiver has more than five targets against the dolphins yet.
That's something to keep in mind just because it's a reason to be concerned about rice.
It really is.
But I think this is potential get right game.
Now, Travis Kelsey appears to be a must start at this point, although, you know, week one was kind of lucky.
But he was amazing in week two.
And I saw a stat yesterday on ESPN.com that his, his like, he's running his routes in terms of miles per hour.
Travis Kelsey, he's faster now than he's been in like two or three or three.
three years.
Yeah.
He's a wedding shape and it didn't stop.
Yeah, there you go.
They said there was, they said on the broadcast and I don't, I haven't been able to
perfectly verify this.
The chiefs release some things that he now is the all-time leader in yards after
catch.
Yes, he is.
And they said on the broadcast, he currently leads all wide receivers and tight ends
in yards after catch this season.
Well, yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, that huge play.
Yeah.
Right.
That's wild.
Okay.
Devon A. Chan, are there any running backs?
Any scenarios where you can see yourself sitting
Devon A. Chan this week?
Chuba and.
Right.
I'm not.
Okay.
Yeah, he's pretty much going to be a start.
Anyone else for the Dolphins?
No.
Douglas is injured.
You know, we'll see how many fantasy managers
drop him or have to drop him because of
being an end-de-bench guy.
Malik Willis has not been good.
Sleeper.
sleeper wide receiver.
I think Malik Washington has a 26% target share already.
Now Caleb Douglas is out.
Chris Bell may not be healthy.
Malik Washington might get you double-digit fantasy points.
He's definitely in that Xavier Hutchinson range of guys.
Start the Chiefs DST and have yourself a wonderful Thursday, folks.
Enjoy the game tonight.
We will talk to you.
Dave and I'll do beat the waiver wire in a little bit.
And we'll talk to you on Thursday.
On Friday, the starter.
He almost did it.
He almost did.
games. We'll talk to later. See ya.
