Fantasy Football Today - Week 5 Recap: Dak Reaction, Claypool, Winners and Losers (10/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 12, 2020

How will the Dallas offense change without Dak Prescott? How much are we downgrading the WRs and Ezekiel Elliott? And who - other than Chase Claypool - is our top waiver wire priority (8:40)? And we'll try to catch you up on the NFL schedule changes that were announced today (11:15)! ... Buy or Sell (12:50) with Lamar Jackson, Mike Davis, Todd Gurley and more! Then we've got a plethora of news and notes (20:55) plus winners (24:55) like Myles Gaskin and Derek Carr and losers (31:40) like Malcolm Brown and Jerick McKinnon ... Recapping every game with our Fantasy takes (38:40). We talk about Terry McLaurin, Joe Mixon, Devonta Freeman, Henry Ruggs, Clyde Edwards-Helaire and so many more ... Email us at [e-mail] Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode of Fantasy Football Today is presented by Express. Dream big. Dress accordingly. Learn more about Express later in the show. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. I'll tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races. Touchdown.

Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Recapping Fantasy Week 5. What's up, everybody? Welcome to the show. It's Fantasy Football Today on a Sunday night. Adam Azer, Heath Cummings, and Dave Richard. I love to be excited, but after the Dak Prescott injury, there's a little bit of a bummer, just like a Paul being cast over Fantasy Week 5. We're going to talk about that at the top of the show.

There was some good stuff. Daryl Henderson had a good game. Chase Claypool is on the map with a four-touchdown performance that could have been, maybe should have been, a five-touchdown performance. Dave, Heath, good evening to you. Heath, what's going on? I understand you have a team name you'd like to audition. Yeah, I think you kind of started things on a sour note, and there were lots of positives,

including me coming up with team name Tuesday on a Sunday. Fulgham, if they can't take a joke. I don't know. I don't know that line, but it's still funny. I mean, you've heard that people say lines that sound like that right right i might not say for the fulgham it's a brilliant team name when you don't even have to know the reference to think it's funny yeah thank you i appreciate it an a plus team name and what's it from uh it's from broken arrow christian slater classic john travolta who don't like me because

of things I say. Yeah, it's the way that I often, I've thought it in my head during our hours and hours and hours of conversation. What about the hours of conversation before the podcast actually starts, Heath? How about that? That was 12 minutes of conversation. Heath, I hope you're excited to do Fantasy Football Today in five after the show. All right, let's talk about the Dallas Cowboys. Dak Prescott, compound fracture of his ankle.

We were actually on the air, me, Will Brinson, and Nando Dufino with Demarcus Ware when that happened. He was sitting there, obviously, pulling for the Cowboys and just so upset to see it. We all were, but as an NFL player who's seen so much, his heart was breaking, basically, for Dak Prescott.

And to see him being carted off in tears was really upsetting. Cowboys luckily have one of the better backup quarterbacks in the NFL, Andy Dalton. Drove them down the field, won the game for them thanks to Michael Gallup as well. 111 yards, 9 of 11 passing,

and might be certainly in two quarterback leagues, huge waiver wire pickup, Andy Dalton. But let's talk about how this affects the rest of the Cowboys pass catchers and what you expect from them rest of season. Dave, I'll let you kick it off. I'm nervous because we know that while Dak isn't a perfect passer, he definitely has his moments of inaccuracy.

Andy Dalton does too. While Dak isn't a perfect passer, he definitely has his moments of inaccuracy. Andy Dalton does too. I mean, we made a whole running joke on FFT and certainly on this podcast about good Andy and bad Andy. And sometimes he's just on fire and he's having a great game. And sometimes he's absolutely awful and he costs his team the game. Now, I was in Cincinnati. This is maybe a little bit different of a story. He's got great coaching in Dallas, but the offensive line isn't so great. He's not

nearly as mobile as Dak Prescott. I would imagine that this will not be great for the pass catchers there. They will probably not have a chance to truly reach the ceilings that we might have thought they could have had with Dak Prescott as their quarterback. That's true. Well, I just don't think it's going to bury them. There's still, I mean, there's too many mouths to feed, and the offense isn't going to produce 6,000 yards of offense now.

So somebody's going to get cut out. I'm not sure we know who it is. It seems like he likes Michael Gallup okay. I just think, like Andy Dalton, like you said it well, Adam, he is one of the better backups in the league. He's a serviceable starting quarterback. It's a good system with elite weapons. I still expect them to be an above average offense.

I think if you want to be optimistic, let's take a look at Kenny Galladay and Marvin Jones. OK, eight games. Let's start with it with Galladay. Eight games with Stafford, 640 yards, seven touchdowns. Eight games without Stafford, 550 yards,

four touchdowns. Is that as good? No. It's 1,100 yards and eight touchdowns on 108 targets. That was with some really bad quarterback play.

Marvin Jones, with Stafford, he had 244 yards and three touchdowns. And without Stafford, he had 244 yards and three touchdowns. And without Stafford, he was not as good. Oh, he got hurt in some of those games, I think. So he only played five games without Stafford. But, you know, Terry McLaurin, you go from one quarterback to the next,

and Haskins didn't throw him as many touchdowns, but the yards were about the same last year. I'm not going to talk about what happened today with McLaurin. That's not the same. And like all of these guys had much worse backup quarterbacks than the Cowboys. Exactly. And their production was going to go down anyway, you know, as a whole, because Dak at one point was on pace for like 7,000 yards and had thrown for 450 yards in three straight

games and nobody had ever done that before. But Michael Gallup didn't do anything until the last drive. Do we have to hang on to him after he ends up with a pretty good game yeah i would yeah you gotta you gotta hang on to him and uh he's just he's probably the perfect bench receiver actually because you're not actually going to feel comfortable starting him we got three teams on a buy next week believe. I don't actually understand what the schedule is at all anymore. We'll have more than three at some week in the future, whenever they tell us who's playing in those weeks. And he's the guy that you plug in,

and regardless of what his projection is, you know that he can make your week with one play. How can we have three teams on a bye? And that's the type of bench receiver you want. How can we have three teams on a bye? The Patriots had a bye and no longer have a bye next week. But that means one team is

like you need even four teams on a bye or we have two. I don't actually. The schedule is the hardest thing today. I don't like it's insane. The best thing and I said this Dave when we were doing the Twitch this afternoon.

I said, the guy I really feel sorry for is Dave Richard. Because I know you've got your laminated schedule paper that you have throughout the year that's very helpful. And it is completely worthless now. You can burn it. I knew better than to laminate the schedule this year. Good for you, man. I got the spreadsheet open. I really don't have a complete week six for it

quite yet, but I'm working on it. All right, so let's just go one by one. Let's take a more... Oh, okay. Actually, let's cross this off the list. Maybe value down a little bit with Zeke, but still Zeke, right? Maybe value up.

They might not throw quite as much. Mari Cooper. At this point, would you take Cooper or Beckham? Cooper. I think I'm going to say Cooper, but I think it's also extremely close. To the point where I think

Cooper's ceiling might be close to what Beckham has been to this point this season. Cumulatively. Cooper or McLaurin? I think I'm going to go McLaurin. Yeah, I think I'm going to go McLaurin. Okay.

CeeDee Lamb or Odell Beckham? Lamb had another big game today. Beckham. Lamb. Wow. CeeDee Lamb or... I must be overvaluing the hell out of Odell Beckham at at this point cd lamb or dj charke charke got hurt we don't know how severe the injury is yeah okay so i've that that one's pretty obvious i think if charke is fine you'll go with him and if he's not then lambs the pick

unless he did you just say lamb um yeah i'll'll say Lamb. He's healthy. Okay. Well, okay, fine then. How about Devante Parker or CeeDee Lamb? Parker. Yeah, I think Parker. Okay. Michael Gallup or Marvin Jones? Gallup.

Michael Gallup or an emerging Christian Kirk? Gallup. I might say Kirk. Michael Gallup or an emerging Christian Kirk? Gallup. Yeah. I might say Kirk. That was super. Like, I may have missed a couple of fourth quarter touchdowns from Christian Kirk or something. Well, he had like 70 yards today. Who does the Jets?

Okay. Like the way you said emerging Christian Kirk, I thought he was like. Well, the last two weeks, he's been a little more involved in what Arizona's doing. Touchdown last week. 70 yards this week. Seven targets this week. Same as New Copkins. How about Darius Slayton or Michael Gallup? Slayton. Slayton. Okay.

All right. Well, that's your Cowboys talk. We'll get more into it tomorrow on the show. Let's go to this question. Who is your top waiver wire priority going into week six? Is there a maybe there is. I don't think there

is a debate. I think Gerald Everett Chase Claypool that was the type of performance that just like any priors you had. We're going to throw those out the window. Now you got 11 targets had three carries he scored four touchdowns it was his second splash week in four games and he just has to be universally rostered now and probably started in most leagues next week and we'll see what the role is moving forward next week is cleveland then at tennessee

i think this is one team whose schedule has not been altered, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Dave, if Chase Claypool is number one. Their schedule was altered. They didn't play last week. Okay, I meant after. And they moved the Ravens game. Okay, I'm sorry. I meant after the postponements.

After this week's postponements and all that. Their schedule, Steelers' schedule was not altered today. Dave, if Chase Claypool is number one, who is number two? Who's the other waiver wire priority? That's a great question. I'm not sure if I'm ready to say it's Travis Fulgham because I'm not sure if he's

going to still be a big part of the Philadelphia offense. I am very tempted to say the Chargers DST because they've got the Jets next week and the Jets looked DST because they've got the Jets next week and the Jets looked awful. Do they now have the Jets or do they still have the Jets? No, they don't have the Jets next week.

That's my bad. The Dolphins have the Jets. Fooled you. I got fooled. They might be on bye. See, this is why I probably should have done the whole schedule. It's so hard. It's so hard. It's really hard.

Before the podcast. Now I feel like a total heel. How about Kirk Cousins maybe against Atlanta? All right. You know what? It's Chase Claypool, and we got all week, or the next two days to talk about the waiver. Cousins would be up there.

Ryan Fitzpatrick now has the Jets. Oh, that's a great one. That's who he's got. Over under 26 passes for Cousins against the Falcons. That's a good point. We're watching the game right now, and they've been running, running, running and shutting out the Seahawks in the first half.

Yay. All right, here's a segment I call LOL, and it's the schedule. The Broncos and Patriots will be played in week six. The Chiefs' Bills moves from Thursday to Monday night football week six. The Jets' Dolphins goes from week 10 to week six. The Jets' Chargers goes from week six to week 11. You lost me.

The Jaguars' Chargers goes from week eight to week seven. The Chargers' Broncos goes from week 11 to week eight. The Chargers' Dolphins from week seven to week 10. And the Dolphins' Broncos from week six to week eight the chargers dolphins from week seven to week 10 and the dolphins broncos from week six to week 11 what makes no sense why would they change all these schedules but that's what no i mean i get it that's what's happening it sounds like the chargers are on by in week six i think so but i know the chiefs and bills game got moved back to monday yes that's right. Okay, well, you know what? We'll figure it out. You should be watching us on YouTube.

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It's time for buy or sell. Buy or sell. We should be a little bit worried about Lamar Jackson, who has now scored less than 20 fantasy points in three of his last four games. Well, I mean, if you drafted him in the first two rounds, yeah, probably should be a little bit worried. You can be worried if you drafted him in the third round too i mean he's still not giving you amazing numbers in this year of amazing fantasy quarterbacks i do feel confident that he's going to be a top three or

four quarterback rest of season and i do feel confident he's going to be an elite difference difference maker still um so i think i'd probably mostly sell okay um how about this buyer sell mike davis is going to be a thorn in christian mcafree's side i could buy it for like a week when mcafree comes back and the panthers just want to take it easy on them. Yeah, they gave seven carries to other, quotes, running back because of Curtis Samuel. He lined up there in this game. Like, I don't think Christian McCaffrey is going to see the same workload he did last year. I don't think he's going to see the same workload he did last year.

I don't think he's going to be as good as he was last year. But I still think he's going to be a top five running back. So I can't say that Davis is going to be a thorn in his side. Buy or sell? You should be excited to start Todd Gurley every week. Eh, no. Sell. Sell the word excited. But you should start todd girley every week okay yeah this this was

probably just from the clips i saw you know on red zone the best i've seen todd girley look he was terrific 14 carries 121 yards and a touchdown also had four catches and coming into the game how many catches did he have like four catches coming into the game, I think? I can look it up, but it's something like that. Yeah, so that was nice to see. And another win for Carolina, so that was nice for them. Not so much for Gurley. He had exactly four catches for nine yards coming into the game. Four for 29 on five targets.

That was through the air for Gurley. So good on Atlanta to try and change something. By the way, Mike Davis, let's go back to Mike Davis. He has scored 23, 22, and 29 PPR fantasy points in his last three games. He has 30 catches in his last four games. Unbelievable. What a waiver wire

pickup. I cannot believe you just called Christian McCaffrey a system running back. Zach Ertz is a bust. Buy or sell. One catch for six yards. 15 yards in his last two games. Bye. I don't know how you could do anything other than bye.

Yeah. Good for them for, I guess, not giving him the contract that he wanted. You guys ever seen Don't Be a Menace to South Central while drinking your juice in the hood. Hurry up and buy a dagger. It's okay. So bad game for him. So what do you think about like he's been a bus so far? Is he going to continue to be a bus going forward?

It's hard to believe he's going to go back to what he was previously, even when Philadelphia gets their receiving core to moderate health the offensive line is a nightmare and lane johnson got carted off in this game so there's a chance he could miss some time wentz is on the move constantly he's getting hit constantly and he's he's finding other guys now besides urts and greg ward i mean he found greg ward ward had the touchdown and we've already talked about fulgham a little bit. I'm thinking that Ertz is not just, he's just not going to get that volume that we were counting on.

I think he's going to be a dud. Okay. The problem, like, okay, fine. Dalton Schultz or Zach Ertz the rest of the season. It's like Schultz's stock just went down. Ertz, Ertz, Ertz. It's just, once again, tight end's not deep. No.

Tight end sucks, as usual. Is Ertz any... I thought you were going somewhere with that. You would rank him ahead of the touchdown or bust tight ends in a given week? Where does that start now? Seven? It might start at seven, but can, can,

I'm just trying to find a starting point for what we call him. He hasn't scored since week one. He almost hit an almost touchdown. So that's cool. He's down at the one, but all right. So obviously he's not top six yards. He's not top four.

We know who the top four are. He might be a bust. Even if he had scored on that play, you've got Dalton Schultz. You've got John who Smith, you've got Noah Fant. I would take Jonu over him. Fant.

Fant, yes. Is Fant going to go on IR? I don't know. I don't think so. I think they would have put him on already if they thought he was going to miss three weeks. He got lucky. Dumb if they did it now.

He got lucky. He might put Dick Hawkinson over him. Oh, okay. I think they might be kind of the same guy. All right. That's China boss, man. It sucks. I hate it.

I hate it for Zekerts. And on the plus side, if I have to say something nice about him, he has one game this year with five or fewer targets, and it was five targets, so at least he's getting a decent diet of targets, but things are things are not great for the philadelphia offense i'm afraid okay well uh it's been disappointing and you thought

maybe the targets would go up i'm wondering if he's just getting smothered with coverage these last two games that that did not happen against san francisco yeah that's what i haven't watched the game yet against pittsburgh but i would imagine that defenses don't fear him like they used to. That's based on what I saw against the Niners. Well, guys, we have a new sponsor, and I'm pretty excited about the sponsor. It's Express Clothing. Actually, I've been an Express Clothing guy for many years now.

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Other than Dak Prescott, Deontay Johnson left in the first half of the back injury. You guys can give me updates if you've got them. AJ Green left with a hamstring injury. Jimmy Garoppolo was benched. This was more, it seemed like, precautionary. Just they were getting blown out and why aggravate the injury? But he was bad. Really bad.

Very bad. Michael Thomas is not going to play because he punched someone. A teammate. So he got an altercation with a teammate and he's not going to play on Monday night. DJ Chark, ankle injury. Sammy Watkins, hamstring injury. Kyle Allen left after taking a big hit,

and then he just didn't come back. He was cleared to return, but they stuck with Alex Smith. Didn't Washington say it was an arm injury? So that's what I saw after the game. At the time, I think everybody thought it was a head injury, right? That's what I thought, too. Yeah, then I saw arm after. But either way, he was clear to come back in,

and they rode with Alex Smith, and they did not win. He got sacked a ton. Yeah, they get the Giants next week, and the Giants' defense exposed in this game against the Cowboys. Not great. Say something nice, Adam. About who? I don't know.

Just keep going with the notes. Say something. I'll tell you something nice, man. I brought this up on Twitch. I know not everybody who listens to watch Twitch. I am so excited for Trevor Lawrence to play in the notes. Say something. I'll tell you something nice, man. I brought this up on Twitch. I know not everybody who listens to watch Twitch. I am so excited for Trevor Lawrence to play in the NFL. He is going to take the league by storm. He is going to be one of the best quarterbacks we have seen in so long.

And whoever has the number one pick should take him. There are maybe two teams. The Chiefs, if they somehow get the number one pick, should not take him. I think the Chiefs have been eliminated from that. Yeah, probably.

Not quite, but yes, probably. But I was just talking because we were talking about the Giants-Cowboys game today. That was our Twitch game. If the Giants get

the number one pick, they have to take Trevor Lawrence. Yes. I would be so excited for it. But that's not a news and note. Dan Quinn is going to get fired.

Is that the happy thing you want me to say? No, we don't celebrate that. I know, I know. He's reportedly going to get fired. No, we don't celebrate that. Dan Quinn was cool. We've been to these owners' meetings before where the coaches have their breakfast,

and Dan Quinn was one of the cool guys there. It stinks for him, but it's kind of his fault that the team's oh and five that defense hasn't been good for a long time and he's in charge of it there were a couple of cleveland browns injuries late in the game kareem hunt was being stretched out on the final drive doesn't seem serious and baker mayfield had x-rays on his ribs which came back negative they're at pittsburgh next week I'm going to predict 18 fantasy points for him because Baker Mayfield has scored exactly 18 fantasy points

and six points per passing touchdown leagues, four straight games. We're going to talk about Brandon Cooks in just a bit. He's a winner, big game for him. His start percentage in his two good games, 3% and 8%. Very disappointing. Chandler Jones is out for the season for the Cardinals. That's a big blow

there at Dallas next week. Let's see. Brian Burns, pass rusher for the Panthers. He left with an injury. Fletcher Cox got hurt. Darius Slay got hurt. I have not seen updates on them. Try to get them for you on Monday. Eagles got just decimated by injury today. Cox, Slay,

Lane Johnson left. I think linebacker Duke Riley left. I think linebacker Duke Riley left. Giants linebacker Lorenzo Carter was Cartered off the field early in the game. Oh, you're making jokes. I should have. That was so bad. Sorry. Oh, I'm sorry for saying something about Dan. You're right.

That was I should have done that. This is the most tasteless podcast we've ever done. And that's that's about all I got. Robert Woods, 56 yard touchdown catch, second longest of his career. Jordan Howard was a healthy scratch. I'm going to call Miles Gaskin a winner. Miles Gaskin was a winner, guys. I'm going to go ahead and claim that.

He is about to go through the roof. All right, let's do winners. In fact, we can start with Heath's winners. Heath stealing Miles Gaskin from me, even though you told me 30 minutes ago. Heath, Miles Gaskin, why is he a winner? He was a winner before the game even started because Jordan Howard was a healthy scratch. And Jordan Howard is like the reason that Miles Gaskin has not quite been a fantasy sensation this season.

He's the clear lead running back for the Miami Dolphins. And now he's going to get some short yardage work as well. He gets four or five targets every week i'm i will be moving miles gaskin into like top 20 territory on a weekly basis starting now if it's in full ppr i'm with you he said five catches three of his last four games and now this is the second time in three weeks that the dolphins have been in a game where they've played with the lead and he's had at least 15 carries in each of those games. And yeah, they're just going to keep leaving Jordan Howard on the inactive list.

This is going to be great for Gaskin. He had a short yardage touchdown today, and he could have more in the future. Okay, trivia question about Myles Gaskin. Who is he playing next week? We don't know. No, we do know. He's playing the Jets.

Yeah, and he's... So, how many carries did he have? 16 carries today, right? So, they've won two games, and those two games 22 carries and 16 carries. I just got done talking about how these were all the things Dave just said.

Yeah, we're helpful when you emphasize our points I was looking up his schedule Kareem Hunt is your other winner yeah I think there was a little bit of question about how much work Dearness Johnson would get and what type of split there would be and the answer was until Hunt

got cramps or maybe pulled something I don't know it looked like it was just cramps they didn't really share at all. It was almost all Kareem Hunt when it came to touching the football. And the averages weren't very good, but this Colts run defense has been one of the best run defenses in the league so far. So a very, very encouraging workload for him,

and we will move forward with him as a top three to six running back depending on what you think and if you missed heath last week that's actually softening the stance on kareem hunt i was i was trying to make room for i was trying to get a consensus i knew if i said a top three running back that yeah get a little pushback so i was just saying three to six to to try to move through it i was a little disappointed with the efficiency and the fact that he couldn't have more than 10 yards rushing, but I think you got to give credit to the Colts in that regard. And I want to give credit to the Browns too for leaning on

him pretty hard. I like it. It's good. Yeah. His touchdown catch was really pretty awesome for running. It was a great play by Baker too. Yeah. Play broke down. He had to move to buy time last second. he throws it a little high and Hunt does his best impersonation of a wide

receiver. Climbs the ladder, gets the ball. Touchdown. Dave, your winners are Derek Carr. I believe he's had 24 more fantasy points in three of his last four games. It's true. And Brandon Cooks. He played fantastic against Kansas City.

He made some unbelievable deep throws. And the only reason why they're unbelievable is because Derek Carr isn't known for being a deep ball thrower. But today he did. He had three of them. They were at least three of them, actually. Let's call it three. He was on target with all three of them. Now let's call it four because Ruggs had two.

He was great. He was great. with all three of them. Now let's call it four because Ruggs had two. He was great. He was great. I hope it continues. And it's too bad that he's, I think, on bye next week. Yes. So, okay, their schedule wasn't impacted by the COVID fiasco. The only teams that played today whose's scheduling fiasco let me please correct myself the teams that played today whose schedules were impacted were the dolphins the jets and the jacksonville jaguars just tell

me if the raider schedule no they weren't good they were good i thought the biggest thing for car was like i mean rugs didn't get very many targets but the first play he made was just all rugs car was lucky that ball wasn't picked off it was into traffic and rugs just made a basically basically took it away from the defender and then the second play man he's just so much faster than everyone else on the field when he got behind the defense and that that changes the equation for derrick car if he has a guy he can trust to go make a play like that in traffic and to run away from the defense. But we were worried coming into the year that there wouldn't be a lot of that because Carr was a good, efficient, deep ball passer.

The metrics prove that he just didn't take a lot of chances, especially compared to the majority of the other quarterbacks that are out there. Now it looks like he's taking a few more chances. That makes perfect sense, given the fact that the team drafted Ruggs. And when this offense is as healthy as it gets which is pretty much what they're at now rugs are stretching defenses it opens things up for other players in the offense and car is connecting it's it's really great to see and i think there are going to be weeks where we do find derrick car in our top 12 rankings at

quarterback okay yeah he's on a buy then he gets the Bucs and then at Cleveland. Brandon Cooks. Alright, so what do we do with Brandon Cooks? 12 targets, 8 catches, 161 yards and a touchdown. I really need to just point out, like, Jacksonville's defense is bad. No question. It's really bad. And he's had two good games, Brandon Cooks, and he was started in 3% of leagues against

Baltimore and only 8% of leagues today. And he's only rostered in 69% of leagues, so you could actually potentially pick him up scheduled to play Tennessee next week. What do we do with Brandon cooks, Dave? I think you buy into the changes that were on display in this game. It's the first one without Bill O'Brien's influence.

And now here's Brandon Cooks running great routes, seeing a season high in targets. It's a second game of the year with eight-plus targets. It's actually a second game of the year with six-plus targets. So getting Brandon Cooks more involved and kind of spreading the ball. Really, it sounds silly to say that the Texans were spreading the ball around when one of their guys had 12 targets. But that's what they did.

They got more players involved. And leaning on Cooks, it's something they may not do every single week. But I think it just kind of lets everybody know, hey, Brandon Cooks is a great player. And it wasn't just one catch that was amazing. He didn't have a 60-yard bomb or something like that. He had a lot of big catches. And he's still a good football player, and he's healthy right now. I think you've got to consider him a number three

receiver moving forward, at the very least, and maybe at the most, but still somebody who warrants consideration, whereas coming into the week, obviously, people were looking at him going, what am I doing with this guy? Okay, would you take Brandon Cooks or Michael Gallup? I'm ready to say Cooks. Yeah, so they are in the same range for sure okay i think cooks could have a target edge

over gallup and we know he's got a quarterback edge over gallup let's go to heath's losers jerek mckinnon who had three touches and juuju Smith-Schuster, who had five targets and is extremely disappointing and makes me want to never play fantasy football again. I am actually in the middle of that section of the article. So that was going to be the believe it or not, but it can also be the loser. We'll come up with something else. Not Chase Claypool or Juju Smith-Schuster related

from that game. No, I listen, there's just no other way to spin it. And I was the Juju guy for most of the off season. And I will still say historically, if you bet on players who did what Juju did at his age to become elite wide receivers,

unless there's Juju Smith Schuster, they generally do, but they're not treating him and he still might like i don't want to rule him out or anything but they're not treating him like that at all deontay johnson dominated him in targets the first two weeks 23 to 14 johnson has gotten hurt each of the last two weeks and smith is schuster has fallen from second to third in target share over those two weeks. It makes no sense at all to me,

but he's, yeah, I think he's going to be a bust. Sucks. And McKinnon drop them. I wouldn't drop him yet, but it is pretty tempting because the thing is like the, the worry would have been coming

into this game well they're playing the dolphins they're going to be ahead and not going to be a game script for jerek mckinnon it was a perfect game script for jerek mckinnon and they didn't give him the football yeah i wouldn't drop him until tevin coleman back, and that might happen soon, and it's clear that Coleman is the next guy behind Mostert. That's the only time when I'm ready to drop McKinnon because if Coleman's gone for two more weeks and Mostert gets knocked out of a game again, you know who's going to get the majority of the work in this run game. But we have, I think, four teams now on by.

It's going up every time we talk on bye this week. And there are lots of injured players. There is a chance. Let's just say this. Jarek McKinnon is not somebody you're going to start next week. And he's on your bench. And he's your worst player. That's not on a bye.

Then you got to do what you got to do. I understand that. Would you rather have Chase Claypool on your bench or Jerek mckinnon oh i'd rather have claypool at this point unless i was loaded at receiver i mean i don't want i agree with dave i don't want to drop mckinnon but i do think that there are people that probably should drop mckinnon uh would you rather have chase edmunds or jerek mckinnon i was i would rather have Edmonds, yeah. Okay. All right, let's move on.

Dave's losers are Zach Ertz, who we talked about, and Malcolm Brown. Let's just talk about the Rams running backs. Yeah, Malcolm Brown, eight carries. It's not like Henderson set the world on fire, but I actually thought he ran pretty well despite the numbers. But yeah, two touchdowns for Henderson and a dud for Brown.

Well, he had a terrible rushing average. He did, but did you... I mean, he looked pretty good. No, no, no, he looked fine. And obviously, he's the carry in YPC for life now. I'm not YPC for life. Like, Le'Veon Bell had a good YPC. Le'Veon Bell is a slug. He looked terrible.

There was a play on like third and one where he tried to get to the outside it took him 45 minutes i read a book and he still wasn't there and then he got tackled short of the line of scrimmage i well you know i didn't read a book but he had uh 50 percent more rushing yards than daryl henderson on fewer carries then again like cam makers right and that's the thing like daryl henderson is a much better running back than levy on bell in my opinion right now right now i feel confident saying that i truly do i felt like every time levy on had a carry he was doing his you know that that hesitation step the basketball

coach that coaches my son calls it a hezy he's he's basically skipping before trying to hit his hole. And I don't know if that's just how he runs now. You know, Steelers fans might say he did that all the time in Pittsburgh, but that might have helped him see the hole better when the offensive line was making it for him. Of course. And now the Jets are just, they're just such a sloppy mess up front that it's hard to do. And he only had the one catch.

If you're asking me if I'd rather have Henderson or Bell moving forward, I think I might take my chances with Henderson because having Jets on my team make me well, I'm not talking about fantasy. I'm talking about on your football team. Who would you rather have Henderson or Bell? Well, of course I'd rather have Henderson cause he's younger.

Yeah. Right. So I was the chiefs. I would rather have Le'Veon Bell and Daryl Henderson. Okay. Well, I'm just saying, I don't really care about YPC.

That's all I'm trying to say. Heath, but Dave, your quick take on the... That's a change. Rams in this particular case. We're probably going to find out that Malcolm Brown, if he did lead the team in snaps, it might not mean anything moving forward.

It was disappointing. He also had a not-so-great game from an efficiency standpoint. He had one catch and went backwards for six yards. And Akers looked good. I'm not certain how many of the carries Akers had was late in the game. This was a blowout win for LA. But we're going to study it all again and try and come up with an answer for who the

better running back is moving forward. But hopefully, what it means to see Malcolm Brown be third in carries is a sign that he's starting to fade into that third spot on the depth chart. And that we'll see more of Akers and Henderson moving forward. It was a lot of garbage time for Akers, right, Heath? And we established that on Twitch. Yes, I believe it was at least half of his carries came well after the game had been decided. Well, look, I've got the fourth quarter stats right here. He had four carries for 42 yards with a long of 46 yards in the fourth quarter.

Yeah, it was all at the end. Pretty much all at the end. Okay, so that doesn't make me feel a whole lot better about trying to handicap which Rams running back is the best of the bunch. It doesn't? Yeah. It shouldn't make you feel better about Malcolm Brown. I mean, about Darrell Henderson. That 46-yard

carry, just to be clear, came with the score 30-10 with 537 left to go. Yeah, no, Darrell Henderson was the guy for most of that game. He had 18 touches, 68 yards, two touchdowns. I can see if I've got a snap count for him

now. We sometimes get snap counts before the NFL releases them. All right. If I get something, I'll interrupt you. All right. You know what? Usually we do the top five at every position. Let's just go right to the games, Heath.

Let's go right to the games. We do have some breaking news that the Falcons have fired Dan Quinn and general manager Thomas Dimitroff. They fired Dimitroff, too. From Tom Pellicer. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. That's interesting that they fired Dimitrov in the middle of the season.

Houston 30, Jacksonville 14. Heath? Hi. Oh, are we doing Believe It or Not now? Yeah. Pretty sure you just said that. Are you kind of frozen from the Falcons news? Yeah. I was just stunned um yeah uh believe it or not brandon cooks is better than will fuller rest of season no i don't know why would i believe that he was a lot better than

will fuller today he was well that horrible game we now have four games of Fuller being better than Cooks. False. No, I believe it's three and two. It's three and two. That's fine. I'm still going to say Fuller. And I think Cooks now has more targets for the year than Will Fuller does. I don't believe it.

And the nice thing is, in a worse game for Fuller, he still had 58 yards and a touchdown. Yeah, he's been fortunate so far that he has timed his touchdowns well. Because if you look at his yardage production, it's 112-0,

54, 108, 58. You have to say 112, because it sounded like you gave him three games with one, then 12, then zero. No one else is dumb so i think ash probably was conveyed the right way okay so what's the buy or sell adam oh okay uh well first of all do you believe it or not that cooks is better no but i'm back to kind of where i was um that they're both boom or bust number threes. Because I know he scored a touchdown the two weeks that he had 50 receiving yards.

But in three of five games, Will Fuller has four catches or fewer. Buy or sell, Gardner Minshew is going to be top three in pass attempts. Buy as long as he stays healthy. Yeah, this is now four straight games with 40 or more pass attempts. You got to love it. buy as long as he stays healthy. Yeah. This is now four straight games with 40 or more pass attempts. You got to love it. Yeah, I guess. I mean, he's currently tied for fourth with Tom Brady.

Okay. Dave, David Johnson ended up with 17 carries for 96 yards, but a little deceiving, right? Yeah. He had a bunch of yards at the end of the game, and they basically tried to get him over 100 yards. It would have been the first time, I believe, in over a year where he'd run for 100 yards in a game. He came close.

He was all right. He's starting to look a little bit like the slug version of David Johnson that you might remember from Arizona in 2019. And last note on this game, David Johnson was open in the end zone and was missed. Yes, he was. And that's,

I think that was there one other player I wanted to talk about in this game. Well, just a quick note on James Robinson, not his best game. He had that dumb fed fumble on that really strange play call, but five catches, it's,

you know, encouraging stuff. And we'll just chalk it up to a bad game keelan cole looked really good and almost had a monster game they had a couple of shots to him at the end of the game when they were trying to come back and three targets in a row you're right just out of his reach one of them he said was his fault one of them was menchie's fault but i think he's still relevant if well i think it comes down to whether or not Chark is healthy. If Chark isn't healthy, then I think Cole is still going to get... I think that's what the key is for Cole.

Okay. All right. If Chark's there, then, you know. Cincinnati's at Baltimore. Bengals had the ball. Bengals had the ball for like nine more minutes than the Ravens did. But it didn't matter. Joe Burrow had a terrible game. He scored four fantasy

points. He apparently was not friends with Patrick Queen on LSU. And Queen knocked the heck out of him and forced a fumble. So that must have been satisfying. Joe Mixon. Was this a good game for him or a bad game for him? 24. Believe it or not, this was actually an encouraging

outing for Joe Mixon. We'll get to the oh no after the game. After we review this game. No, I don't believe that. Yeah, I guess so. I think it definitely was. Six catches. Second consecutive week with six catches.

Giovanni Bernard's been pushed just a little bit further off into the peripheral and i'm i'm encouraged about mixing well i might do the rare buy low sell high buy low with joe mixon this was one of his toughest matchups left on the schedule he never really does well against either the ravens or the steelers and i believe it's assuming the schedule. He never really does well against either the Ravens or the Steelers. And I believe it's assuming the schedule doesn't change, one of those matchups against the Steelers or the Ravens is tucked into Week 17. Ravens.

Yeah. So he's done with the Ravens if your championship is in Week 16. And he's got some great matchups moving forward. Oh, no. Yeah, you're seeing what I'm seeing. If you find somebody who thinks that mixon's regressed you could take them off their hands maybe for a discount are we done

talking about this game i think we should talk about delvin cook you got hurt yeah all right we'll talk about it tomorrow unless you're unless you know for a fact he's out for a while but you don't so we'll talk about it tomorrow no we don't know we don't know that unless you know for a fact that he's out for a while. But you don't. So we'll talk about it tomorrow. No, we don't know. We don't know that. Alexander Madison is at it.

I don't even know what his roster percentage is. He pulled up lame. He made a catch, and it looks like some, I don't know what it is. I don't know. Leg. Madison is 72%. And then he's off to the locker room. 72% rostered for Madison. They got Atlanta next week, then a bye.

That stinks. We'll talk about it on Monday's show. AJ Green got hurt. No catches. One target. 84% rostered. I think people are going to say goodbye to him. Believe it or not, buy or sell. T. Higgins is a must-start wide receiver.

When the matchup's right, I buy it. And there's going to be some good ones coming up. That's a sell, then. Why? That makes sense. A must-start and a matchup dependent are not the same thing. Okay, fine. I'm just trying to be nice to T. Higgins.

Okay. Buy or sell? It's time to drop J.K. Dobbins. No. Sell. I can't. Sell. Oh, yeah.

I mean, there's one thing I'm looking for in a running back. It's three touches a game. Listen, maybe you would drop him before you drop J.K. Dobbins. J.K. Dobbins. J.K. Dobbins.

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i agree but here's the thing you're you're kind of acting like if mark ingram got hurt gus edwards wouldn't have a big role. No. But Adam, it would be split two ways instead of three, and I think it would come to pass that as efficient as Gus Edwards has been, J.K. Dobbins just gives the Ravens more. He's a better receiver out of the backfield than Gus Edwards.

He's definitely faster than Gus Edwards. He has 198 yards on 25 touches. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's good. Okay. All right, let's go to the Rams 30 and the football team 10. Another big time of possession game here. The Rams hit the ball for about 11 more minutes than Washington did.

Heath, what do we got? Rams 30, football team 10. Believe it or not, there's not one running back in this game. You should be goalable enough to start again. Oh, I don't know. I thought it was a good day for Gibson. He had five catches again. He had four last week.

So that was nice. Dave, what do you say? Believe it or not, not a running back in this game, you should start. I don't believe it. We know what the running back position is like. Gibson might be the one that I would be most willing to start. It's not with a lot of confidence moving forward, but it's just because

the Rams running backs were and will continue to be a jumbled mess. I've got the snap percentages if you're interested. Sure. This was the first week of the season where Brown was not tied or ahead in the lead of playing time for the Rams. It was Henderson, 43% to 38%, Acres, 19%. What does that mean? I don't know what to tell you.

I don't know if I could recommend starting any of these three anytime soon. This is another backfield like Baltimore's where it would be great if one of them won Powerball and bought an Island and live there. At the very least they run it all the time. Those three guys combined for 32 carries. So, you know, at least you're going to get some work there. Buy or sell sell high on robert woods if you can sure he says no what would you get want dave

how do you value him if i could turn him into let's say tyler lockett ends up having another bad game we know at this point he's halfway through, he's not doing so hot. If, uh, if it ended up coming to pass that he stunk and I could turn woods into Lockett, I would take that.

You'd rather have them than Beckham though, right? I think so. I think so. Okay. Um, buy or sell. I know.

So Alex Smith will be bad news for Terry McLaurin. He could be bad news for Antonio Gibson, too, just being honest. Well, are you buying the McLaurin part of it? Yeah. Heath, buy or sell? Maybe Alex Smith was just really rusty. Yeah. We know that he didn't have a ton of time to go through the same type of camp as others did.

There are some good players on the Rams team. They sacked him like nine times or something. Right. I don't feel like he was ready. So maybe he can come back from it. Maybe he just needs to knock off the rust and in a week or two he'll be you know raring to go and it'll be vintage alex smith like whatever yeah he's not better than what we saw today this is like when you like you take your kids to the

amusement park and he's not trying to get on that he doesn't have to be tall enough to get on the scariest ride the bar is extremely low to be as good a quarterback as Terry McLaurin has been accustomed to in his career. Very good. Alex Smith was 9 of 17 for 37 yards. Yikes. And how many sacks in this game? He was sacked six times, and Kyle Allen was sacked twice.

Yeah, D.R. Henderson slightly more. 2.5 yards per carry for Henderson. 2.2 yards per attempt for Alex Smith. Did you guys catch Le'Veon Bell, by the way? Am I crazy? No, he didn't look great. I didn't watch any of the games at all. I had that game streaming

as I watched Red Zone. I was watching that game because I really wanted to see Kenyon Drake. I don't know. I actually thought the Cardinals' run defense was just bad. And Bell had a lot of opportunities. I mean, that's the thing. Because I didn't see it, it's really hard for me to take the things that you are saying at face value.

Because you said earlier that Frank Gore is faster than Le'Veon Bell. I was joking. And they were facing the same defense, and Gore had nine carries to Bell's 13 and a half as many yards. I was joking. Are you kidding? First of all, I said that on Twitch.

Secondly, I was joking. I was making a point about Le'Veon Bell. It seems to me, and clearly I will go back and watch the tape, but box score scouting, it seems like, man, 60 yards on 13 carries when his longest run was 13 yards. Go back and watch the tape. That seems like pretty good.

I promise you a good running back would have had more than 13 yards on a carry in that game. He can't break any. This is what I've been saying about Le'Veon Bell. This is the last time he had an explosive play. It's been like three years. He never has explosive plays. He really never does.

Three seasons now without a carry of more than 30 yards. Or like, well, you know, 2.5, whatever. If you don't like Le'Veon Bell, I get it. No, I don't. But I would be interested in your opinion. So please go back and watch his carries and let me know what you think. Las Vegas 40, Kansas City 32.

Believe it or not, we should be worried about Clyde Edwards-Hilaire being a top 12 running back. I believe it based on workload. I don't like that he only had 10 carries. And I feel like he's had a

couple of games this season where he hasn't had a whole heck of a lot of work overall. I know he had a touchdown called back. But Dave, I mean, nobody He's had 10 carries in three or five or in two or five games. But he wasn't splitting carries. You know, they had the ball

for 24 minutes. I believe Darryl Williams played 46% of the snaps. How many touches did he get? He did not have very many touches. But he is their generally their two-minute back. Okay. But if he's not a top 12

running back, I think we can accept that. I think he's still close to it. Call him a top 17 running back. I we can accept that i think he's still close to it call him a top 17 running back i i would like to just present one tiny piece of evidence from before this week while noting that he had multiple touches in the red zone this week and did not score a touchdown even though he did have an almost touchdown had one call back entering this week inside the 20 he was sixth in carries inside the 20 and every back in the top nine had multiple touchdowns he had zero inside the 10 he had nine carries for zero yards inside the five he had six carries for negative two yards a lot of that was from week one though

remember all those plays where they tried to punch it in and he just right and the thing since then has been man they keep running all these tricky plays at the goal line giving it to clyde edwards a layer so annoying yeah uh but going into this game where he had a touchdown catch call back and that was real close to the goal line one in this game where he had a touchdown catch call back, and that was real close to the goal line. Going into this game, Clyde Edwards-Ziller was on pace for 1,732 total yards and four touchdowns. So that's why I was very optimistic about him.

He's the lead running back. He is a touch dominator. After week one, he did not have any catches in week one. He's been involved in the passing game in basically every game and he's just not scoring. He had 80 total yards in this game. For a bad game where he only had 10 carries, he still had 80 total yards.

I'm still... What was it again? That he's not a first round pick? We should be concerned about him being a top 12 running back. Oh, a top 12 running back? I'm pretty sure he's going to be a top 12 running back. Barring injury. I hope you're're right i feel good about it you feel better about him or jonathan taylor right now edward ziller a lot more catches yep yeah uh yeah they've gone the opposite direction in terms of catches, for sure.

All right, let's do another one from this game. Let's go, believe it or not. Believe it or not, you're typically not going to start any Vegas wide receiver. Typically, no. So I believe that. But there will be bye weeks where you'll look at Henry Ruggs and say, let's go for it. Let's strap a rocket to this fantasy lineup and go to the damn moon. I believe we will get to a point.

I think he'll be started more often than not later in the year. So I'll say I don't believe it. For Ruggs, okay. Yeah. Pittsburgh 38, Philadelphia 29. We took the Zach Ertz one. We took the Juju Smith-Schuster one. Talked about Claypool.

The Chase Claypool one. Heath, you want me to give you one? Vile Sanders? Believe it or not, you should pick up that Fulgham guy off the waiver wire. We should talk about that guy. Shouldn't we? He's been pretty good.

And Philadelphia keeps finding themselves. Believe it or not, Dave game script. Yeah, of course you should pick them up off the way where I believe that. I don't think I'm going to be doing it. Well, look, I mean, you could get alshon was sick this week you could come back next week uh deshaun jackson could come back at some point dallas

goddard could come back at some point like how many times come back how many times between now and the end of the season are you actually going to be starting travis fulgham i just don't see especially but don't you want to speculate on somebody who had a lot of targets and a lot of catches and a lot of yards and he found the end zone kind of like chase clay how long is my leash here with the fulgham jokes i'd probably be looking at the waiver wire and being like f hold on. I'm like, I have all of them. I'm just, that was the joke. Dude. Listen,

if you were asking me this question after last week, of course I would have said, forget about it. You only have three targets. He had a big play late. There's something that stood out and Philadelphia just continues to be desperate at receiver. And I said that they will come back and I'm talking about Jeffrey and

Jackson and got her, but we don't know when we can't say for sure that they're all coming back in week number six in philadelphia like like i was trying to say before they find themselves in this game script where they're having to throw the targets win his way he's not even going to be close to being my number one guy off the waiver wire but if I need a receiver in week number six and I can't get my hands on him. Yeah, you're going to go with him against Baltimore? No, I mean, I wouldn't love it. That's what I'm saying. If the volume's going to be there, I might give him a shot.

I don't know. That's like the toughest matchup. Okay. How about this game? Miles Sanders, just to get it out there, Miles Sanders had a 74-yard rushing touchdown. Otherwise, he had 10 carries for six yards. And another touchdown. And another touchdown, that is true.

How about James Conner? How are you feeling about him? I don't even have a buyer's cell. But I know, Dave, you've been a little hesitant to fully buy into James Conner. 15 carries, 44 yards, one touchdown, three catches, 19 yards. Weird thing happened on the opening drive McFarlane got some playing time next to Connor yeah and then late in the game it was Benny Snell salting the matchup away I if I've got Connor I'm obviously going to continue

to use him I would make an effort to have another Steelers running back behind him. I think Snell is probably the one that I would want to have, not McFarlane, because I'm not sure if McFarlane can handle every down work like the Steelers tend to give their running backs. All right, Heath, let's go to our next game. 23-16 Carolina with the win over Atlanta. Go ahead. Believe it or not, you can drop Matt Ryan. I always wonder if you're waiting for me to talk.

I'm always trying to let you go first. I'm literally sitting here leaning forward and contemplating that question. Sometimes with these believe it or not, it's snap answers. I know what the answer is. But I don't get them in advance, so I don't have the time to think about it before the show, which is how I want it to be. I don't either, Dave.

Yeah. I would point out, he has struggled badly without Julio Jones. And with Julio Jones, weeks one and two, he scored 28 and 35 fantasy points. But those games were against Seattle and Dallas. So was it the matchups or was it Julio Jones weeks one and two. He scored 28 and 35 fantasy points, but those games were against Seattle and Dallas. So was it the matchups or was it Julio? I'm not dropping him because I know what his potential is.

I don't think you can drop him, so I do not believe it, but I do believe that there will be weeks where I look at him on my roster and I go, do something. Throw some touchdowns. Come on. Okay, buy or sell? Throw some touchdowns. Come on. Okay. Buy or sell?

DJ Moore is worse than CD Lamb rest of season. Sell. I think Lamb will have more targets. I'll buy it. There it is. I'll buy it. There it is. I'll buy it. Yeah, Moore had like, it looked like a good game,

but he only had five targets. Did you see the touchdown? Yeah. Did you see the touchdown? Yeah, it was great. No. Go ahead, Heath. Go ahead.

DJ Moore did not have what looked like a good game. You don't let me finish. DJ Moore had a very good game. You take everything I say so literally. Just let me explain. I was trying. He only had five targets. Robbie Anderson had 13 targets.

That's what I was trying to do. When he's bad and he has 12 targets, we say DJ Moore had a bad game. Yeah, okay, but Heath, what are you going to rely on a 57-yard catch-and-run type of play for his touchdown? He still gets no red zone targets. That was a fluky play.

It was a great play. He's a great player, but it wasn't an encouraging game necessarily from a fantasy standpoint when he had eight fewer targets than Robbie Anderson. I think that's a better way to say it than DJ Moore had what looked like was a good game. So just give me a little bit of slack, okay? Sometimes I'm going to say things that aren't perfect. DJ Moore had a good game, but it might be a good idea to try to sell off of it. Yeah.

Okay. Great. Perfect. Alright. Thank you. Jeez. a good game but it might be a good idea to try to sell off of it yeah okay great perfect all right oh man buy or sell drop russell gage bye bye bye bye goodbye arizona 30 jets 10 go ahead Go ahead. Believe it or not, you should try to sell off of this game from Kenyon Drake. Believe it. Yeah, I think so. It was, again, not an encouraging game. 18 carries, 60 yards, and a touchdown. I think he's devolving into a physical running back,

and I don't know if he can do that. The touchdown that he had was from a yard out. The two plays before it, they're literally running him right up the middle. Right up the gut, yep. Yeah. I don't know if that's what he's cut out for. I'm really interested in your take,

because when he was trying to get outside, it just wasn't working today, and he was trying a lot. It's been like that all year. I don't know if he's bigger. You know, one thing, when we talked to Damian Williams on Twitch last week, we asked him why did things click when he went to the Chiefs, and he said that they had him lose weight. The Dolphins wanted him so much bigger.

I don't know if the Cardinals just want him to be a more physical it looks like um after kyler murray gives him the ball he like has those resistance bands and he's holding on to them and you see the training they do with those where like kenyan drake's trying to run away from him but he's holding him with the resistance bands um yeah it's not that one good i feel like i'm seeing hesitation in his runs too but it's a different type of hesitation you know with levion i think it's not that one good i feel like i'm seeing hesitation in his runs too but it's a different type of hesitation you know with levion i think it's purposely done like it's part like skipping as part of his uh his regimen yeah pete say tiptoeing or something going through the tulips that's exactly right yeah and kenyan drake meanwhile man p Pete is old. Meanwhile, Drake is like... He's running through the resistance bands.

He's processing the play slower, it feels like. Who would you rather have, Todd Gurley or Kenyon Drake? Gurley. Gurley. Kenyon Drake or Odell Beckham? Beckham. I've got to find some new players here. Kenyon Drake or...

Kenyon Drake or... Kenyon Drake or Mark Andrews. Andrews? What? He's a running back. I mean, running backs are hard to find. Yeah, Andrews. Okay. Let's clarify.

Clarify. There are lots and lots of running backs. You can find them. Generally, there's like 100 in the way of the wire each week. There might be one on Drake's team who ends up being better than him. Good running backs are difficult to find. I get it that Edmonds isn't getting nearly the same type of carries. There's a chance that changes. Maybe it doesn't change because Edmonds is clearly smaller than Kenyon Drake, but

it wouldn't surprise me at least if Edmonds starts to cut more into Drake's playing time. We might see this thing go 50-50 at some point. How about this? Kenyon Drake or Jamison Crowder? PPR. Drake.

Give me Crowder. I said it. Three 100-yard games after I got ridiculed Drake. Okay. Give me Crowder. Crowder! I said it. Three 100-yard games after I got ridiculed for even suggesting that we could take Jamison Crowder over Melvin Gordon going forward. And I get it. Melvin Gordon's better than Kenny and Drake right now.

You did say PPR, right? Dave and Jamie. Especially Jamie. We did. We did. We are idiots. I take it back. You're smart. I'm stupid. Oh, dude. You are idiots. I take it back. You're smart.

I'm stupid. You're right. I was wrong. I've given so many football opinions on today's show. You're handsome. I'm not very good looking. There's a faction of the audience that hates me so much when I give football opinions. So I've actually thought about that, and I'm sorry to all of you.

Please stop leaving crappy comments in iTunes. Miami and San Francisco. Miami blows out San Francisco, Heath. Yeah. Yeah. Believe it or not, there's not any wide receivers that really matter on the 49ers.

Like always. It hurts my heart to believe that. Probably. Because I love Debo Samuel. I really do. He had eight targets. He did. Maybe it's just because the 49ers quarter, because Garoppolo had a terrible game.

Do you know the Dolphins kicked three field goals inside the last two minutes? That counted. Three field goals that counted last two minutes? That counted. Three field goals that counted with two minutes remaining in the first half. No, I didn't realize that. That's funny. They kicked one right at two minutes,

and then 49ers got the ball back. Garoppolo threw an interception. Dolphins did a little drive, kicked a field goal. Garoppolo got the ball back with, you know, 30 seconds or something like that to play. Threw another interception. Dolphins kicked another field goal. Garoppolo got the ball back with 30 seconds or something like that to play. Through another interception, Dolphins kicked another field goal. I don't know if that's ever happened before, but that was pretty incredible.

I can't justify a roster spot on Debo Samuel or Brandon Ayoub moving forward. Shouldn't we give a little bit more leeway here to Debo Samuel because he really hasn't played yet with a healthy Garoppolo? I was skeptical. Yeah, I mean, it depends. I was skeptical of Debo Samuel because he's really hasn't played yet with a healthy Garoppolo. Yeah. I was skeptical. Yeah.

I mean, it depends. I was skeptical of Debo Samuel before he was hurt because they drafted a wide receiver in the first round and he was only good when George Kittle was hurt last year. Um, so he's still really only been good when Kittle's not there, but,

um, yeah. Look, you can keep him if you want to. I don't know when you'll feel confident starting him. I'm starting to... If you line him up with Brandon Cooks and Michael Gallup, when are you starting Deebo Samuel over either of those wide receivers? Confidently. I hear your silence.

It's the kind of thing that could change next week. All it's going to take is one good game from Debo Samuel. Would you drop Debo Samuel for Chase Claypool? Yes. Yes. I might regret it, but I think you have to do that. Cowboys 37, Giants 34. Holy Chris Carson.

Yeah. Which game? I'm sorry. Giants Dallas 37. Trevor Lawrence 34. Yes. Believe it or not, Devontae Freeman might just be a borderline startable running back. Believe it.

Believe it. Excellent. Believe it or not, Heath. He looked good. And you know what? He had moments where he looked good last week, too. I don't know if he's going to look quite as good by the time we get to December because he's an older running back and he starts to take on some wear and tear. It might not be so great, but I believe it. 17 carries.

He gets a couple of catches, and he looks good. He looks like he can actually give you actual fantasy numbers from week to week. Yeah, but he, right. And he did look a lot better than his yards per carry, which was 3.5. Just was a terrible defense. So, you know, we should point that out.

But good game for Devontae Freeman, 17 carries, 60 yards and a touchdown. And I mean, the most important thing to catch for 27 yards is he's completely dominating touches in the backfield. He's got Washington and Philadelphia twice in his next five games. He's the number one. Well, if Philadelphia has Fletcher Cox, then that would change this thing.

They're good with him. Buy or sell? Buy or sell that Dalton Schultz is actually droppable with Andy Dalton. There's not enough tight ends to say that sell.

Agreed. That's pretty much, I think. Well, how about Evan Ingram? Anything you want to say about Evan Ingram? He had a rushing touchdown. He had a receiving touchdown called back on a fake field goal where an offensive lineman did not report and he ended up with one catch for 16 stinking yards

on two targets. He scored. If I've got Evan Ingram as my only tight end, I need to find another tight end. Not saying I have to sit Evan Ingram, but I want to have an option. All right, Cleveland 32, have an option. All right.

Cleveland 32, Indianapolis 23. Last game. Yeah. I won't do the Jonathan Taylor thing for like a third consecutive week. But no. You should. Believe it or not, the Colts are kind of bad. Believe it.

The one element of their game that I think is good is their run defense. I was skeptical of their pass defense coming into the game. Mayfield did have some bad throws, but I do think Mayfield made a lot of plays. I think Landry made a lot of plays. So I'm not buying that the Colts pass defense is anything great. I do

not buy that Phillip Rivers is great. Oh, wow. Going out on a limb there, huh know philip rivers well think about how many nice things i've said about philip rivers now he's yeah he's not good man imagine the colts if they had cam newton be great i do think jonathan taylor's got some redeeming value but yeah it's very very clear that the Colts don't want to overload any one person on their offense. And I think he gets the Bengals next week.

He does. But again, keep in mind, he had 12 carries, so that's not a lot, but Hines had three and Wilkins only had one, and they only had the ball for 25 minutes and 15 seconds. So when you look at it that way, he had 75% of the carries when you look at the three running backs. So that was encouraging. We have to see more of it

before we think it's a thing. Just for the time of possession thing, Rivers had two interceptions. He got, there was a safety because he was called for intentional grounding in the end zone. So there were a couple of things that led to that time of possession

getting away from Indianapolis. Normally, I don't know what their time of possession is prior to this game, but I would imagine they're the type of offense that can hog that stat. 25 minutes and 15 seconds is really, really low. So people, you know, I saw a lot of comments today very upset about Jonathan Taylor.

Really wasn't a bad game for him. He scored. Yeah. Yeah. He was fine. Right, he was fine. I mean, it wasn't as bad game for him. He scored. Yeah. Yeah. He was fine. Right, he was fine. I mean, it wasn't as good as DJ Moore's game. He's obviously not...

He's obviously not coming through the way we hoped. But he hasn't been that bad. Buy or sell Jarvis Landry is back. No. Okay. But he's not droppable. sell austin hooper is back 17 targets in his last two games yeah i think that puts him on the the waiver wire radar but like am i i just got done talking about how i need another tight end just in case evan ingram really turns into the full-blown dumpster fire.

Hooper might, maybe, could be one of those tight ends that I'd want to carry on the bench just to see. The 17 targets is a positive. All right, everybody. We're out of here. Hope you enjoyed the show. Hope it was useful. I do wonder if Hooper's target share goes down when Chubb comes back. For Dave and Heath, I'm Adam. Thank God Dalvin Cook is okay. Make sure you listen to Fantasy Football today in five,

and we'll be back tomorrow with another episode, and then we're coming back on Tuesday with the Waiver Wire, the Chase Clayton Show. Talk to you then. Get well soon, Dad.