Fantasy Football Today - Week 5 Recap! Jacory Croskey-Merritt, Rico Dowdle, Winners, Losers and More (10/05 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 6, 2025We start out with our biggest winner (3:30) and biggest loser (5:45). Jacory Croskey-Merritt has broken out! How does he compare to Quinshon Judkins rest of season? And what the heck is going on with... Jameson Williams? Then we run through the news and notes (7:45) with the latest on Omarion Hampton and Xavier Worthy ... An early look at the waiver wire (11:40), then Buy or Sell (15:45) on Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, Emeka Egbuka and David Njoku ... More winners (21:30) and more losers (30:50). Who stood out this week? Do we have a changing of the guard in the Panthers backfield? Who are we considering sitting? Dropping? ... Recapping each game with our Fantasy thoughts (42:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Marian Hampton in a walking boot after the game.
We'll talk more about that, but we got winners and losers.
You know, usually I ask you, hey, who's QB1, who's RB1?
I haven't even looked, so maybe I should ask myself.
Because it's hard.
It's hard when you don't have to list.
RB1 is either RICO or Bill.
I think probably RICO.
Oh, it's definitely RICO.
Bill, was Bill really that good?
I mean, he was...
Bill was good, but he wasn't Rico good.
Yeah, Bill stunk.
Bill was five, believe it or not.
Rico was tied with Jonathan Taylor.
Remember him?
He scored, they both have big games.
Okay, QB1, what are you thinking here?
Well, you tell me.
If you really say you don't know.
No, I think I saw that one accidentally as I was trying to look up running backs.
Keith, do you know?
I already know.
Is it deck?
It was very close to being deck, but it is not.
Dak and Sam Darnold tied for second.
Number one, C.J. Stroud against the defense that everybody loves to beat up on these days, the Baltimore Ravens.
I'm going to go chase wide receiver one.
Oh, no, Abuca, Abuca.
No, you got to pick one.
One of them is right.
One of them is wrong, which is it going to be.
Chase.
Nope, Abuca, 31 PPR point seven catches, 163 yards in a touchdown.
Tighten one is Darren Waller.
Nope.
AJ Barner.
Yep.
I knew what I was going to say that.
All right.
Jake Ferguson also with two touchdowns with a better day.
Anyway, welcome to the show.
Let's go.
Biggest winner.
Four times with 20 plus PPR points.
Four.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Yeah, this week's mailbag is going to be amazing from Magruber.
Yep.
I'm going to have to pay up that bet, which I'm not going to say because Dan's listening.
I'm going to have to pay up that bet.
It's going to be horrible.
All right.
Biggest winner.
heath what do we got um you should i always get beat to the punch and then you always ask me first
when i don't have the biggest winner so i have to steal someone else's easiest one of all go for it
the biggest winner is bill okay 27 ppr fantasy points um he had a fumble but he got the next
running back carry after that so i think it's okay they were talking throughout the broadcast
how it seemed very obvious talking to everybody in washington that this split
They might continue to use three running backs, but they were going to move more and more towards Bill.
They did in this game.
He was awesome, and he had a couple of runs where he broke through one or two tacklers
and almost broke through another for an even longer run.
Yeah, looks like a star.
I mean, crazy.
And he gets Chicago and Dallas next, and it's good stuff for Kroski Merritt.
It started in 41% of leagues real quick.
Bill or Judkins, rest of the season?
It's still Judkins.
But Kroski Merritt, I don't want to, you know, live in the moment, say now he's going to be amazing forever and all that stuff.
But it's encouraging.
It's really encouraging.
And to anybody that's been watching commanders football, it's been obvious.
He's way faster, way more elusive than Rodriguez and McNichols.
And Cliff Kingsbury said a couple weeks ago, like, yes, he's great with the ball in his hand.
So we need him to do all the other things that we ask running backs to do.
hopefully he's getting better at some of those things,
although holding onto the ball also
has to be one of those now.
This was also the first game.
He had multiple first quarter touches in.
He had three touches in the first quarter,
21 total yards.
So they're going to start using them earlier in the game.
And the SnapShare.
Are you interested in that?
I said real quick, so I was hoping that we can get to the losers.
All right, we'll do it later then.
We'll give everybody a big cliffhanger for the SnapShare
for the commander's running backs.
All right, biggest loser, Dave.
the biggest loser who did I send in
Jacoby Myers
Jacoby Myers isn't a big enough loser you know
I want to talk about Jameson Williams
who is no Jameson
Mazascus but he is definitely someone
that's got to be on the loser trail we've got a game
where the lines through four touchdowns
golf through three of them this was an easy
matchup easy money for James and he came up
so small and it's really been one game
where he's been good
and it was only on a couple of catches because he caught a deep ball
and everything else with Jameson Williams has been ugly
and no one wants to start him
and no one wants to be the guy that cuts him
and I get it because he is still
it's not like he's slow out there it's not like he's banged up
it's not like he's only playing 25% of the snaps
I still feel like he's going to matter this year
but I can't start him on my fantasy team
unless I'm absolutely desperate at wide receiver of flex
and so he's in that no man's land Adam
we talk about those players
it's like the worst kind
of fantasy players to roster
because you know they're good
but you also know that you can't really start him
and to me he's one of the biggest losers
of the week because he had the matchup he had the quarterback
he's had it all year
and one game this year he's been good
and he couldn't get it done against Cincinnati
and the game of the Lions put up a ton of points in
yeah well I think you're missing
the big stat is he had a hundred percent
catch rate today and I think that's something
that he can build on. Of course, he had one
target. Soda d'Abuca. All right, but
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sports.com slash podcast. News and notes. You know, it wasn't that bad of a day, knock on wood.
Kyler Murray left and came back. Rico Dowdo left with cramps. He came back. Jordan Mason left,
but came back. Omari and Hampton, that's the big one. Also, we'll get back to Hampton in a second.
Darius Slayton left with a hamstring injury. Xavier Worthy has ankle and shoulder issue.
So let's talk about that real quick here. For anyone who's got worthy in their lineup, if you're
watching live and you have 20 minutes to make this call, Xavier Worthy versus K.
Dion Coleman or Khalil Shakir or something like that.
Heath, what do you make of the situation?
Because there's a report today that they've added him to the injury report and he's questionable.
Xavier Worthy.
I know you said you don't look at your scores when you're making a decision,
but this would be a great time to look at your scores when you're making a decision.
If you feel like five more points is probably going to win you your week,
then I would just go ahead and start just about anybody that you think's going to score five points tonight over Xavier Worthy.
But for the most part, sorry, I clicked the wrong button.
At least it wasn't the wrong button.
It wasn't the wrong button.
button.
Oh, no.
Cameron Wolf from NFL Network said that he got off the plane and his ankle was a little
bit swollen.
So they're adding him to the injury report for precautionary reasons.
They'll see how he feels tomorrow.
Okay.
It doesn't sound like a big concern, but there's no reason to take a chance if you just
need a couple points.
Okay, I got a tweet here from, I don't know who this is.
So I'm not going to read it.
Is it a name?
Is there a name on the tweet?
Yeah, I'll tell you who it is.
Maybe you know who it is, and then if it's good enough, I'll go with it.
But, you know, I'll just text it to you real quick.
But we'll move on.
While I text this to Dave, Heath, talk about Omari and Hampton, and if he were to miss time, who you'd be interested in.
Unblock Azer from my phone.
Yes.
It was kind of a split between Haskins and Vidal.
I did not think either one of them looked very good, but Vidal probably looked a little bit better.
Haskins was working ahead of him, though,
and Haskins had a more secure spot coming into this week.
I don't really think that I want to start either one of them
if O'Mary and Hampton misses time.
I think it'll be a time share.
Oh, never mind.
They face the dolphins.
Start them both.
They're top ten.
All right.
He's in a walking boot after the game, Amari and Hampton.
I saw him.
He was on the sideline running, trying to get back in the game.
It didn't happen.
So we'll keep our fingers crossed.
We would love that matchup.
The Dolphins, I can't remember which running back they faced today.
Did he do well?
Oh, yeah, he ran for 200 yards.
So hopefully we get Hampton back next week.
So the tweet I was referencing was from Matt.
You got to know how to pronounce it, Verda Ram, Verde Rame, Verde Rami.
He is.
One of them with Sports Illustrated.
Okay.
And he covers Kansas City.
And he said that he is not, that he's hearing that Xavier Worthy should be good to go.
The expectation is he will be okay for Monday night.
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Quick look at the waiver wire, early waiver wire.
Any names?
How about, I've got to buy or sell about this,
but if you saw Calvin Ridley on your waiver wire,
he's 72% rostered.
He had five catches, 100%.
31 yards and 10th, would he be a big time ad for you?
I mean, it would depend on the desperation in my receiving room.
I'm probably not going to spend like over 15 or 20 percent, but he's an ad.
He looked good today.
First time this year that he's, he's looked good.
It came against Arizona.
We know their secondary has been banged up.
He had double digit targets.
First time that's happened this year.
He caught half of them.
I'm not ready to go.
I'm with you, Heath.
I'm not ready to say that he's worth a big, you know, fab drop.
but we could talk about some other names
since the show goes on
and we can measure them against Ridley
maybe he's worth the first round of waiver claims
maybe he's worth 10% of FAB
he's probably rostered in most of your leagues
but 72% so there's a chance
anyone else that really comes to mind
other than the
Chargers running back situation
I was wanting to
go ahead Michael Carter is 66% rostered
Michael Carter is 66% rostered.
Everybody went for DeMarcato on CBS, even though we said it was close, but we like Carter better.
And he was horrible with his 16 carries, but he had 16 carries and five catches.
So I think it's got to be.
We're a little bit of a surprise.
Not to me.
And DeMarcato broke away.
Hold on.
Did you see this?
Yeah, of course.
DeMercato broke away for a long run, 71 yards.
He gets the goal line.
There's a defender next to him, but he doesn't touch him.
He drops the ball right at the goal line.
Yeah.
So another week where a guy, I guess for lack of a better term, voluntarily, let's go the ball before actually crossing the plane into the end zone.
It's ridiculous that it happens even once, twice in two weeks is crazy.
And it happened to DeMercado.
He's a knucklehead for it.
And he really only played on passing downs and third downs for Arizona.
Mason Taylor appears to legitimately be the number two option.
He's had 12 targets today.
Justin Fields through about 40 passes.
So there's some names for you on the early waiver wire.
Sam Darnold, let me check his roster percentage,
but he is 49%.
Because he was on our stash list on Thursday.
49% rostered.
He's at Jacksonville.
I don't know if Jacksonville will force them to throw enough,
but Sam Darnold, if he's going to throw, he's going to be good.
All right, let's take a break.
Come back with some buy or sell and some winners and losers.
And Jamie should be here soon.
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Let's do some buy or sell.
Here we go.
Buy our sell number one.
Dak Prescott will outscore Jalen Hertz's rest of season.
I will sell.
You can kind of see it, though, can't you, Heath?
Oh, it's, yeah.
I mean, I think coming into the year, we had Hertz was,
Hertz was four or five, and I think Prescott was seven or eight for me.
So, I mean, it's not that big of a leap.
No.
But I'd still sell.
I'm fired up about what we're saying.
seeing from Dak Prescott.
I mean, he's playing great.
He really is playing great.
And two...
Oh, there's your waiver wire, Ed.
Ryan Flournoy.
Ryan Flournoy, maybe.
Lambs should be, hopefully back soon.
They didn't put him on IR, but this would be...
Oh, this would be the third week that he would miss next week.
He's missed two.
And Dak's been great.
All right.
The other thing is, like, are you worried about Jalen Hertz, who has scored more than
24.3 fantasy points only once this season?
I feel like we went through a stage with Hertz last year where he didn't perform to expectations.
And in a game where he rushed two times for three yards, he still had a pretty good stat line for fantasy.
It wasn't as good as DAC or Justin Fields or any of the other guys that had Monster Game, C.J. Stroud, obviously.
But it still wasn't bad.
He shouldn't have crushed you.
It's just a matter of can he, can he hit?
the upside of getting north of 25 fantasy points per game from here on out.
How many times he scored 23 points?
He hasn't been below that once, I don't think.
Oh, no, once against Kansas City.
He had one bad game, but he's...
Do you have his fantasy points each week so far?
Yeah, 24.3, 6 point per passing touchdown.
Jalen Hertz, 24.3 against Dallas, 11.5 at Kansas City,
35 against the Rams in the comeback effort, 23.4 at Tampa Bay.
23.5 against Denver.
So that's, I feel like that was a really dishonest framing.
Why?
Are you worried about Jalen Hertz?
He hasn't scored more than 24.3 fantasy points once.
And he scored 23 or more in four or five games.
I was just saying he hasn't popped.
He's only popped once in five games.
I'm saying, are you worried about his upside, you know?
No, because he's still going to deliver upside where he has games like today
and scores a touchdown on the ground on top of it.
He actually had his fewest rushing yards in a game.
since he became a starting quarterback,
other than, I think,
couple games where he left with an injury.
No, no.
Just in general.
He had three rushing yards.
Fewest rushing guards since he became a starter.
All right.
Adam, if, if A.J. Brown and DeVante Smith
didn't complain this week,
does Jalen Hertz run eight times for 65 yards?
Probably.
Maybe score a touchdown.
Okay.
Next up.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, I do.
But I actually like when he throws.
more, but whatever.
I like when he does both.
And 38 pass attempts is usually out of the norm for Hertz.
Buy or sell, we should just accept that a mecca, Abuca is amazing, and we should not sell high on him.
Bye.
Just keep him.
Yeah, I mean, I think it probably depends on how high you could sell now.
I still, I think this week, if I could sell a buca for CD Lamb, I would do it.
Okay.
That's fair.
Hi, Jamie.
Hi.
How are you?
I'm good.
Fine.
I'm annoyed that I lost you in a league, but whatever.
Maybe start a tight end next time.
You know what?
I'm glad I didn't.
I made the decision to start a player on a buy
because I didn't want to bench anyone.
And there's no tight end in the world.
Unless I'd started A.J. Barner,
maybe I could have beaten Jamie.
But I would have lost it.
I don't know what Dan's take is going to be on that.
All right.
Buy or sell.
David Nijoku is back to being a must-start tight end.
Njoku had six catches, 67 yards, and a touchdown on nine targets.
Fanon only, I think, had four targets in this game.
So Dylan Gabriel maybe loves Njoku, and he's 69% roster, by the way.
Might be available.
Buy herself, I'll throw it to Jamie.
David Nogoku is back to being a must-start tight end.
I don't want to buy it, but I certainly will be picking him up.
I think there's the hope that Gabriel,
with the way that he plays
might just want to
hopefully feature
Njoku, but I think
just given the state of the position
and what our hopes were for him, if you still have
him, you should be encouraged.
And like you said, if he's available on waivers,
he's probably somebody to go get.
Okay. I'd be encouraged
because Gabriel, listen, he played Minnesota,
it was clear their game plan was get the ball out quick
and don't look for deep throws.
And those two things have
always favored David Nijoku, at least since he broke out a couple of years ago.
And without Cedric Tillman there, that's one less mouth to feed, don't really care about
thrash getting a target later, Isaiah Bond, getting seven targets.
I don't know if that's going to be the norm for him.
I'm okay with going back to Nizoku now, and especially next week for the Browns, they play
the Steelers, it's going to be the same type of situation, pass rush is going to be on Dillon
Gabriel really quick, he's got to get the ball out, Njoku can be that short area target.
I'm much more comfortable saying Dave and Ajoku is a must start in week six
than David and Djoku is a must start rest of season.
Yeah, well, I had to make it difficult, Heath.
I can't just...
Yeah, I think I'd have to sell the rest of season.
Okay.
All right, let's go to our winners.
Dave's winners, Arjikori Kroski Merritt, who we talked about.
And how about Rico Dowdell?
84% rostered, 67% started Rico Dowdell.
So he gets Dallas next week.
We don't know about Chuba Hubbard status, but he goes for 23 carries,
206 yards, one touchdown, plus three catches for 28 yards.
He is RB1 going into Sunday night football.
Oh, revenge game next week.
Yeah.
Oh, I love that.
You know what?
Dave, buy or sell, Rico Dowdell is the number one running back for the Carolina Panthers rest of season.
I'm not ready to say that just yet because once Chuba Hubbard's back, I could see an annoying split between the two.
I think I think Dowdell's earned at least that much but he barely made it through this game man he was he was limping off the field at what point for the Panthers 23 carries was a lot for a dude who wasn't getting anywhere near that much work at any point this season and he was banged up and he took on Miami and we know that Miami is one of the best matchups in the world that being said Dallas is a pretty damn good matchup too I'm kind of hoping that Dowdle doesn't even practice this week maybe one day on Friday Chuba's still out
let Dowdell run wild again. Fantasy managers should feel good about that.
And then once Chuba does come back, if Carolina's offense can actually build off of this game
and be a little bit better and put up more points, or at least as many points as they did today,
then Dowdell maybe on 12 carries a game could be a flex option, maybe a seldom used starter.
So it's a nice guy to have in your team for now.
I wouldn't think about him as being an anchor on your squad rest of season.
starting, like a must-start guy, rest of season, unless something happens to Chuba.
If you guys had Jalen Warren and Chuba Hubbard on your team.
I was just going to say the same thing.
What's happened the last two weeks is amazing.
Yeah, but which one would you be better about or worse about?
Yeah, which one would you be more nervous about they're going to lose their job?
Chuba Hubbard by a mile.
That's what I was thinking, too.
I think in the case of both of those guys, they both, Jalen Warren, more recent.
but Jalen Warren and Chuba Hubbard got contract extensions by their teams.
Then they saw their teams add what I think most would expect would be not very exciting additions to their backfield in the case of these two guys.
The Steelers brought in somebody else with Caleb Johnson.
But in the case of Gainwell and Doubtle, you know, the contracts were next to nothing, the expectations were next to nothing, and then they get this opportunity.
and they have the best performance of their respective backfields.
I think in the case of the Panthers,
you can easily say let Chuba get healthy.
The Steelers, you would hope, for Jalen Warren's sake,
close to playing last week, has the buy week,
comes off the buy, you know,
you would assume he's probably going to be closer to 100% or ready to go.
So I'd be a little bit more nervous about Chiba Hubbard at this point
with Rico Doudal.
I would really think when both starters are healthy,
the best case for Gainwell and Doudal
is that they're kind of touchdown-dependent pains
in our decision-making process.
At least with the Panthers situation,
you've seen the last couple of games
that they've been using Rico Doudal.
He had 19 carries in the two games prior to this.
Now, Daudel apparently, I don't know if we knew this,
Dowdell was dealing with this calf injury at the end of week four.
I'm sorry,
Chubo was doing with the calf injury at the end,
at the end of week four.
So I don't know how much of that played into his 10 carries that he had.
Remember, I told you the carries were just about even in the first half.
There was one more for Chubbard than there was for Dowell in the first half last week.
He's definitely got a roll.
All right, Jamie, your winners are Justin Fields,
who scored 29.9 fantasy points against the Cowboys.
and about 17 and a half of those 29.9 fantasy points came in the fourth quarter.
And Jalen Waddle, who also had a big fourth quarter,
but he ended up with six catches, 110 yards,
and a touchdown on nine targets at Carolina.
Fields and Waddle.
So just for future reference,
I'm always either going to go winner or loser with the start of the week.
So last week, Gino was a loser.
He will always be a loser.
I'll always use the start of the week in one of these categories.
for fields, it was ugly for a good portion of it.
Not necessarily because he was playing so poorly.
It was just that it felt like every time they gained some momentum,
it was taken away.
Brise Hall had the fumble.
They couldn't sustain drives.
Penalties.
I thought he got off to a good start.
And then, you know, really didn't do much.
But you could kind of feel like there was going to be an opportunity for him.
So thankfully, he saved his production, like you said, in the fourth quarter.
In the case of Jalen Waddle, we wanted to see
what would happen without Tyree kill there
and a little bit of a slow start
but you know got the big play at the end
I think you should feel pretty good that
you know Waddle can be a must start
fantasy wide receiver rest of season
as the lead option for
Tuotung of Iloa and the dolphins in their
in their passing attack
who would you feel better about rest of season
I'm saying this coming off this huge game
Jalen Waddle or Jemar Chase
Chase.
That's a great question.
I'll still say Chase because we had two bad games for the Bengals against two very difficult opponents.
Yeah.
And then they take on the Lions and you see what he's still capable of doing.
The only concern would be is that are they going to make a quarterback change after Browning had three interceptions?
And is that quarterback change potentially worse?
They have to.
They have to.
They have to make a trade.
Is it someone who's more of a game manager that's not going to turn the ball over?
James.
James.
Well, that's the ultimate hope, right?
Is that they make a trade and it's for somebody like him.
The most hilarious thing ever would be to bench a quarterback for throwing two interceptions and replace him with James.
Right.
It's not just that, though.
He can't run the, he's been horrible.
I mean, I know the fourth quarter was great for him, but this game was awful.
So we were kicking around some names in the green room watching this performance.
performance and like who are the backups that make some sense that are on teams like
would an andy dalton reunion make sense for the bangles i don't know if that helps
jemar chase kirk cousins it's not somebody that they're going to go spend money on because they're
the bangles unless the falcons are willing to eat it for a certain draft pick compensation but
that probably does not happen um russell wilson is he an upgrade for the receivers yes i don't know
All right. You know what? It's a little speculative, but just to get Jalen Waddle versus Jemar Chase, a difficult decision for at least two of you, it kind of just shows where we are.
And both those guys, you know, it's a good thing for Waddle. It's not such a bad thing for Chase because we obviously like Waddle quite a bit.
By the way, Justin Fields was sacked five times today by the Cowboys. They entered the game with five sacks. That was what really shocked me.
And once they stopped sacking him, he started to put it together. But he was really, really thrown off by the pass rush for the Cowboys.
And so once the Cowboys kind of called off the dogs,
Justin Fields was able to start to play a little bit more free.
It made a huge difference in him.
And Jamar Chase had a Justin Fields type game where he did nothing for
three quarters and then in the fourth quarter or whenever it started to get going for him
the right way, he put up some good numbers.
The type of game that you don't really want to watch,
but you're happy with the numbers at the end.
And just one last thing, one nitpick with Waddle.
We know that he gets banged up pretty easily.
and we know that things could really go rotten for him if Tuatung of Aaloa gets hurt.
And so for those reasons, I would still lean chase, but it's close.
All right, Heath, your winners are Darren Waller.
Two dolphins are winners today.
Well, they must have won, right?
Darren Waller and Devante Smith, Waller, I want to say all of it came in the first half.
Five catches, 78 yards, and a touchdowns, weird, on five targets.
And Devante Smith, eight catches 114 yards on 10 targets against Denver.
Yeah, I think he played 16 snaps last.
week and they said their target was 32 this week so not even a full-time player but the number
one tied in on a per game basis in fantasy football this year Darren Waller 17 fantasy points or
more in both of his games he went like the times that he's on the field he looks like he's good
again yeah and they don't have a good number two option number two wide receiver in the passing
game so I think you just have to buy in at this point and hopefully he doesn't get hurt
got his snap count
32 on the dot
I think that's what Heath was trying to say
I didn't have the snap count
that's what they said on the broadcast
he had exactly 32 snaps
so that was exactly their plan was
he played 16 last week
he plays 32 this week
wow okay
hopefully it's hopefully he's up to 50
sometime soon
okay losers for Heath
are Jameson Williams
who Dave talked about
and T. Higgins he got the touchdown
late but three catches
22 yards and a touchdown
on seven targets against Detroit
Would you consider dropping T. Higgins?
I'm not considering dropping T. Higgins, but I would sure like to bench T. Higgins.
And congratulations if you got your 11 PPR fantasy points.
But if you're talking about the Jammar Chase, Justin Fields spectrum of fourth quarter saving your day, this is the very bottom of that barrel with the most garbage time of touchdowns.
Just, Yoshavis had the same number of targets and much better production.
Yeah.
And it's, we at least got the get right game for Jamar Chase.
I hope this wasn't the get right game for T. Higgins.
He was started in 59% of leagues.
They're at Green Bay next week.
I'm thinking it's going to be closer to 40% next week, start percentage for Higgins.
Jamie, you had Woody, yeah, we got to talk about Woody Marks.
Woody Marks going into his buy coming off a game with seven carries for 24 yards,
while Nick Chubb, who is 78% rostered, had 11 carries, 61 yards and a touchdown.
Neither of them had a catch, but Woody Marks is a loser, and Alvin Camara, out carried by Kendry Miller is a loser.
Woody Marks drop or hold through the buy.
It probably comes down to what your roster looks like at this point, but I would like to hold.
You know, I think, you know, Dave kept illustrating this.
I'll bring up both points that you guys made this morning and Dave throughout the week with Woody Marks that he had taken over the third down role.
I would expect based on how this team is probably going to operate.
operate offensively when they're not playing a team like the Ravens, we see a lot more third down
chances for marks and maybe some comeback efforts from the Texans. So he's maybe more involved
moving forward, especially when they can't run the ball with any level of success. So if you have
to drop him, you know, I don't, I haven't gone through all the waiver wire stuff yet, but if you
have to drop him for something of a priority, then I understand that. But I would like to hold.
In the case of, you know, your point, Adam, you kept asking us this this morning when we were saying
Rashad White or Woody Marks or Rie Goldaudeau, Woody Marks, and I think Dave and I were pretty
consistent that we said Woody Marks, that you kept bringing up the Nick Chub variable, which
unfortunately came to fruition, that he was too much of a factor and didn't give Marks the
opportunity to perform at the level that we were hoping for. So matchup was great, previous game
was great. It seemed like everything was set up for Woody Marks to, you know, ascend. And I don't
think we were alone in this thought, you know, from a, from a group fantasy site, whatever you
want to say. But this is, this is the frustrating part when there's committees and veterans that
still, you know, earn the trust of their coaching staff. In the case of, of Camara, you know,
you were to say, Saints win, you would probably think he had a big part in it, and he did not.
And so we've had these concerns with him throughout the course of the season so far, where
not high-end production, some questions about the work in the passing game,
now starting to see somebody else take some touches away from him.
It's three weeks in a row where Kendrae Miller's been involved,
two of them where he's been significantly involved.
And now we have an Alvin-Camara problem.
So I think it's just going to be one of those scenarios where you're probably starting him by default.
With the hope that he can find the end zone,
with the hope that he could still be in the four-catch range,
you know, that number is fine.
You know, if you say four catches, I think we're okay with that.
but eight carries in a game where they're playing with a lead in the fourth quarter,
like this is not what we were hoping for when we drafted this guy.
So it's tough.
And, you know, I think we'll see what this Patriots defense looks like.
That's their next opponent.
They've been really good against the run so far.
And so can they get Camara back to a level of, you know,
a point where we're comfortable enough to say must start running back?
So depending on what we get next week with these backups,
I know for me I'll have Rico Dadoe ranked ahead of him
I'll have Rashad White ranked ahead of him
Like Bill there's no trust factor right now for me
With Camara is a must-door guy
Bill against Chicago next week
Bill over camera yeah
I mean I don't think Bill is going to fall into the Woody Marks trap
Personally it feels a little different
But I wonder if people are going to feel that way
I want to see one more game of Bill getting a lot of work
Before I buy into it
R.J Harvey went from close to
the 20 touches last week,
not that he was taking over for Dobbins,
but a big role last week to nothing this week.
So we'll see if people buy in with Kraski Merritt.
I suspect they will.
But, you know, Dave, people bought into Jawan Johnson,
although he's only, am I, is this right,
68% rostered coming off a bad game,
and he had another bad game.
And, yeah, 68% rostered, 34% started.
Two catches, 17 yards on four targets.
Jacobi Myers, meanwhile, four catches,
32 yards on six targets.
targets. Is the Joanne Johnson experiment over? Is he dropable? And are you sitting Jacoby
Myers against Tennessee next week? I think Joanne Johnson is definitely dropable. This was the first
game with, I don't know how much Foster Moreau played. It might not be that much, but Taysam Hill
was back on the field. And he had six runs in the game. It was for negative yard. And she
threw a pass in the game. And that's taking work away. They also got a deep touchdown to
Rashid Shaheed. Olave had his targets. Camara had six targets. So I think that we can,
we're, we should be allowed to be really nervous about Joanne Johnson and that he might fizzle out.
So I think at best, he's a maybe start. And if you're not starting him, why are you benching him?
There are other tight ends that are out there. Like Mason Taylor at this point with the target
volume that he's been getting and we know that he's been playing 70% of the snaps, pretty much
every game this season. I think you roll with him moving forward and you'll leave
Joanne Johnson at the at the rest stop five miles behind you with Jacoby
Myers I it's really more of a vote against Gino Smith this this was the
setup that should have come out like with Jacobi Myers having a huge game
there's no Brock Bowers the Raiders were trailing and Jacobi Myers just could
not get anything going he's going to be tough to trust because of not necessarily
because of what he's doing I don't think he's doing anything wrong but I think
Gino is just screwing up way too much
and it's taking everybody
down with him in Vegas, except
Genti had a decent game. I'm not
going to rank him as high next week, and I've been too
high on him. But I think
when he's playing the Titans,
it's probably just a Joe Boo week.
For Jacoby Myers?
Probably still. I think it's more of a, does
Gino have another
crappy game, does he get benched?
Because if they lose to the Titans in their
building and he's awful again,
you have to bench him if you're the
Raiders.
And they might do it already.
I mean, there was a point in the fourth quarter where Kenny Pickett was getting equipment put into his helmet.
You know what I think's going to happen on Monday?
Bold prediction.
I think Brian Davel's getting fired.
That's what I think.
Oh, no.
And I think he should have to pay up this bet.
Not me.
After going from winning and winning by between two and three scores, do you think the coach is getting fired?
I didn't say that.
I mean, it's hard to craft an argument for him.
Yeah, I mean, the argument, yeah, well, I won't get into it,
but it's easier to craft one against him.
All right, we'll take a break.
Come back.
We'll get into all the games, including the stinking giants.
I'm a Titans fan now, letting you know.
We'll be right back on fantasy football today.
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So, goal line work, anything that matters here.
Michael Carter scored from the goal line.
Zonovan Knight also scored from the goal line,
but that was after he had a long run
and got down to the one,
and they just let him finish the drive and score.
Tony Pollard was in the game.
He scored from the goal line.
So that was encouraging.
Ken Walker, if you're sitting there as a Ken Walker manager
going, man, he's never going to score from the goal line.
He got to carry first and goal from the seven.
He got to carry second and goal from the five.
He got down to the two-yard line.
They took him out on third down, which is not a surprise.
They put in Charbonnet, and they threw a touchdown,
I believe, to AJ Barner on that play.
So they're probably going to split goal line work there.
I would guess favoring Charbonnet.
But Walker will be in there a little bit,
and Walker ran really well again.
Almost touchdowns.
Marvin Harrison, Jr., right out of the gate,
came up a yard short of a touchdown,
and it went to Michael Carter on the next play.
And as a rushing touchdown,
and it would have been a pretty good game for Kyler.
You know, not great, but over 20 fantasy points, but, you know, he gets 15, 16 points.
Mari DiMarcato, we talked about his almost touchdown.
Breeze Hall came up a yard short of a receiving touchdown.
Darius Slayton didn't have an almost touchdown, but he did drop a deep ball.
And then he was also underthrown on a flea flicker, deep ball.
Bryce Young missed Tommy Tremba.
It was a horrible day for Tommy Trembal, but he actually probably should have had a touchdown.
Bryce Young made a bad throw there.
Jalen Hertz missed A.J. Brown for a deep touch.
touchdown. Brown also drew a pass interference call right near the end zone on Patrick Sertan to
set up a score. And Gunner Helm, who actually got in the mix. It was the report that he would
and he did get in the mix. He came up a yard short of a touchdown. On the next play, he drew a pass
interference penalty. And then on the next play, Tony Powell had scored. All right, all that
said, let's get to the game starting in London. Fun finish. This was a pretty cool day of football,
I thought. I mean, the 1 o'clock games were a lot of blowouts, but the London game was fun. The
the 4 o'clock games were fun.
Minnesota 21, Cleveland, 17.
Heath, take it away.
Believe it or not,
Quinn Sean Judkins is the best rookie
running back rest of season.
I don't believe it, but he's in the mix.
Yeah, can we, can be,
if Hampton's healthy,
probably Hampton, right?
Probably Hampton.
Man, Judkins is so good.
He looks great.
Yeah, he's a stud.
Okay.
anything from this game
let's see Jordan Mason did fumble
but they stuck with him
you know what kudos to him
13 carries 52
doesn't it sort of stuck with him
Xavier Scott also got
hurt in the game
and fumbled
what do you guys are you guys at with
Jordan Addison
because he got benched at the beginning of the game
but he ends up with a touchdown
on six targets
Carson went through 34 passes
Heath where we had on Addison
I think he's probably somewhere
between, this is a big range, but it's the same type of guy.
Like he's that Marvin Harrison, Harrison, Jameson, Williams type of player that he's probably
not going to have the type of targets that make you feel great about starting him every week,
but he's going to have the ability to score on a long play every week.
And so you have to at least consider him, which makes him a boom bus number three wide receiver.
I don't know, man.
He had the target flashing out of the by week.
Jamie, go ahead.
What did you say?
Who is the quarterback for the Vikings coming out of their by week?
and it's Philadelphia coming out of the by week too
I would guess McCarthy
I would guess I mean that's the biggest thing for me
when it comes to Addison if it's Wentz
I'd be much more encouraged
if it's McCarthy I'm going to be concerned
I like that Addison had eight targets last week
and essentially six targets and a half of football
this week
Denver 21
you know what I'm sorry
keep that graphic up I think we should say something
about Dylan Gabriel, not necessarily as a fantasy option, although he did score 20 fantasy
points against Minnesota.
He was an improvement.
He was an improvement for that offense compared to Flacco.
Believe it or not, Dylan Gabriel is the best rookie quarterback rest of season.
Don't believe that, but I do believe that he will, he put into Djoku back on the radar.
There will probably be some weeks where one of Bond or Jerry Judy have some good numbers.
I think he's a, for his first, I thought he was a solid game manager in his first game against
Minnesota, especially considering
the circumstances. That was a tough spot
for him to be in.
Yeah. Can I just say, you know, you mentioned
the rookie quarterbacks. I'm very proud of
my Titans for winning this game on the road.
Guddy win for us.
I think it was nice of them to make
it to where the Giants did not have the worst loss
of the week. Yeah, that's true.
But can they stop dropping passes? They drop
everything. All right, Denver 21,
Philadelphia, 17.
Game of the week was a good game of the week.
It was a crazy game.
Crazy game.
I don't know how Denver won.
Good for them.
Philadelphia's offense got unplugged in the second half.
Quite a comeback.
Heath, what we got here?
Evan Ingram's back on the streaming radar.
Jets, Giants, Cowboys coming up.
Sure.
Believe that.
Sure.
Yeah, we're all super pumped about that.
Well, we talked about RJ Harvey.
There's nothing to say about Cortland Sutton.
He's awesome.
you had an asinine comment about Jalen Hertz.
What?
Devante Smith was a winner.
I don't know what to make of Dallas Goddard getting nine cards.
You're talking because you've mentioned every eagle except for A.J. Brown,
who had five catches for 43 yards on eight targets.
That's kind of what we've gotten this year.
By low, by low, by low.
I would still agree with that.
Right, we got something there.
We got the snow white.
I said that to you last week with all the things that we're going to reference it's no way
by low by low it's off to Miami we go or whatever oh I don't think I got that you gotta sing it
dude let me hear that let me hear the singing um by the way I was wrong Dave was right
Quinnian Mitchell did shadow Cortland Sutton at least it seemed that way every time I saw Sutton
he was being covered by him Riley Moss is not the greatest cornerback no he's not he's been
struggling the past couple of weeks all right Houston 44 Baltimore 10 oh oh on J.K. Dobbins
51% of the snaps.
He had both of their snaps inside the 10.
Harvey actually played behind Badee.
Badee had 26% of the snaps.
Harvey was third on Denver at 21%.
Come back to me.
I'll let you know what Dobbins' snapshot was two weeks ago,
three weeks ago,
because I think his number is starting to really slide.
It might be a sell high time.
Yeah, week three,
J.K. Dobbins played 69% of the snaps.
Week four, but he gets his carries.
Okay.
Okay, he gets one catch a game.
So that might change, but you should...
That's a little problem.
Right.
You should know that with Dobbins.
You should not expect a lot of work in the passing game.
But he's running behind one of the best offensive lines in football.
He's hyper-efficient.
He's their goal lineback.
I don't know.
Do you kind of feel like just accept it?
Maybe, no, I wouldn't argue with the sell high.
But also, you could just accept him as like a guy you're starting most weeks.
Sure, in the meantime, while you're trying to sell high on him.
Okay.
Baltimore stinks
and Houston stinks less today
4410
did not know the Texans had this in them
they had the ball for 36 and a half minutes
Heath what do we got
Derek Henry
is not a starting running back
against the Rams this week
you can talk now
fellas
nobody nobody wants to
I believe it
yeah
yeah this is assuming i may end up having him top 24
bill or derrick henry next week
you can make the case for bill because of the matchup and because he's got a chance of
assuming the game doesn't go sideways for the commanders he could end up with more
touches than derrick henry he was their passing downs back today i mean he's doing it all
not exactly who merit not exactly but more so than in the past so he's he's
I'll rephrase.
He was catching passes for them today.
Yeah, and he'd been catching a pass each of the last two games.
So the fact that he was doing more, it's a great sign.
Derek Henry didn't catch anything except, you know, a bunch of Texans in his grill.
Listen, this is the fear with Derek Henry for the rest of the time that Lamar Jackson is going to be out.
And potentially as long as their defense is bad.
If they are chasing points, he is irrelevant unless he finds the end zone.
And so if you're excited about nine PPR points, 10, maybe 11, like, that's the type of player that he is at this point of the season.
Things will get better.
I think he is a good by-low candidate because hopefully Lamar Jackson is back maybe after the buy, probably not next week.
So we went through their schedule as well.
It's a fairly, I don't know, there are a lot of winnable games in their schedule with Lamar Jackson.
So it's the right time to go get him, especially with.
their by week coming up.
But to start him next week against the Rams,
which has been a very solid run defense for the better part of a year,
it's tough to say he's going to do well,
especially if their defense is still as beat up as it is.
Okay.
Zay Flowers had the big catch to, you know,
prevent him from having a bad game.
Saved his 12 PPR point day.
Yeah.
And Andrews only had three targets.
You know, the Ravens only ran 40 offensive plays.
Right.
It was horrible.
for them.
It probably won't be this bad.
You have the Houston running back snaps.
Yeah, I wanted to put a bow on this.
And this is why if I see Woody Marks on the waiver wire, I'm going to pick him up at
some point during his by week.
He still led the way.
It was narrow.
And there were four running backs involved for Houston.
48% of the snaps overall.
That led the way for Houston.
Seven of nine snaps on third down.
Three of five inside the five.
So I feel like we just got really unlucky with Woody Marks.
I don't want to let him go if I don't have to.
Chubb was at 44%, British Brooks, 15%, Daria Gumbawali, got some run.
I would imagine that as we move forward with Houston, it'll be much more of just Marks, just Chubb,
Mark's still having high value touches.
I want to have that guy on my fantasy team.
Okay.
So we go to the Giants and the Saints.
Ew.
Saints 26, Giants 14.
I'd like to know just your emotions throughout the course of this game,
because they get out to the lead early.
And you had to feel like, wow, this is, this is Dan's prediction coming through.
I mean, for people who didn't really see, they literally handed the game to the Saints.
The fumble by Darius Slayton was ridiculous.
And then the fumble by Scataboo was returned for a touchdown.
And that's it.
The fumble by dart was very ridiculous.
Oh, the fumble by, I didn't remember the fumble by dart was the most ridiculous.
It was, they were the, they are, they could have easily won that.
that game. This was a ridiculous
and the penalties. Penalties
and turnovers. Coach is going to get
blame. He's getting fired tomorrow. You'll see.
All right. Heath, what are we talking about from fantasy here?
Believe it or not, Theo Johnson
should be higher, have a higher
roster rate than
any Giants wide receiver.
I'll believe that.
Because coming into today
it was like 54%
for Darius Slayton
82% for Wondale
27% for Theo
At a position of need
And what he's done in two games with DART
Like why would you not buy into this?
Well, I don't know about you guys
But I feel like I need wide receiver
More than I need tight end
In three receivers
Yeah, we know how much you feel like you need tight end
You just chose not to start one this week
In two receiver leagues no
But in three receiver leagues
I'm looking for warm bodies at wide receiver
Much more than
If you had started Theo Johnson
Would you beat me?
No
I don't think so
Wow you really
smacked him around
James
yeah I didn't feel
like the saints
he had 21 fantasy points
he was awesome
seven target six catches
33 yards
like the one thing
that really bothers me
about Theo Johnson
is that he's
he's such a short area target
such a red zone guy
you're you're really only starting
him on the hope
that he gets six targets
and that he catches a touchdown
he's average
he's average single
digit catch averages, 8.5 yards per catch or less in four or five games.
How many points? Did he score? I believe 21.3. I lost by 21. No decimals in this league,
so I think we would have tied. Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. All right. Anyway, what do you think about?
I'm not quite there yet with Theo Johnson. He's on the, he's on the radar for sure, but I think
there's other tight ends that we will talk about. Like AJ Barner, he's kind of the same guy.
Okay, what do you guys think about Olaave and Shahid?
Again?
What?
I'm sorry, we're not supposed to talk about the Sunday night game.
Oh, Bill's fumbled again?
No, uh, someone, someone, someone, Romandre fumbled going on again.
Remandre did?
We need a cleverer, just fumbled and then Ramonjee fumbled.
Okay, right, all right, all right.
Focus, guys, focus.
How do we feel about the same side receivers?
The key on Coleman get benched.
Okay, moving on to a new game.
Carolina 26.
It's a good DPR option.
Rashid's a good boom-bushed flex.
All right.
Carolina 27, Miami-24.
Do we have any reason to be concerned about Devon A-Chain?
Why?
Almost no targets last week.
No rushing this week.
How many games does Devon H.N.
have more than 12 carries in?
I want to say like,
two.
One.
I want to say like one.
He's scored more than 17 fantasy points once.
Now, he's going to kill me for this, but he's scored more than 17 fantasy points once.
He's been right around 17 fantasy points.
Oh, it makes me so angry.
But he's not getting really enough touches to have these, you know, big total yardage games.
Because he keeps scoring.
It's a little frustrating.
Do you think they go to Antonio Gibson or do they go to trivia?
Come on, dude.
Stop.
got to, like, do a real show here.
A. Chan still, I'm sure,
is going to be started everywhere.
How do we feel about Tetaroa McMillan?
Six catches, 73 yards on eight targets against Miami.
Do you feel like that's basically the...
I know it's not the actual best that you're going to get from Tetaroa McMillan,
but do you feel like if you start him that you're just happy with 13, 14 PPR fantasy points?
I think that's what you should expect at this point.
This was a game that he should have erupted.
He should have had 100 yards.
He didn't.
It was Rico Dowdell, too, like taking away a lot of past attempts from Bryce Young.
He only had 30.
So, yeah, maybe this is like right around what we should expect from Tedd-McMillan for now.
I think just in the case of what we typically see with rookie wide receivers,
if this is the targets that he continues to garner, which has been fantastic so far,
eight plus in every game so far the season, then things will get maybe significantly better down the stretch.
so if there is a frustrated McMillan manager
I would go try and take advantage of that
that being said I think he's just in the low end
number two receiver range
but what happens maybe when Jalen Coker comes back
who's a guy that Bryce Young seems to favor
so it's just a matter of I think in the case
of what you're looking at
because as he starts to understand coverage
and get better at his craft like there's
I don't think the targets are going away
versus Dallas, and he's at the Jets.
Those are his next two games.
I think he can score in one of those games.
And, Jamie, you're right on with the targets.
He's had at least eight in every game this year.
Right, but he's in the middle of this great stretch of schedule
with New England and Miami and Dallas and the Jets.
And so far, I don't think New England is easy.
Well, yeah, I mean, they had Gonzalez, but, you know, all right.
Indianapolis 40 and Las Vegas six.
Woo!
What, what?
I got nothing at him
I feel it for me
so originally
before the fourth quarter of the Bengals game
I had
buy or sell
I'd rather have Michael Pittman
than Jamar Chase
rest of season
and then Chase
did what he does
but Pittman's really good
so how about
I'd rather have Michael Pittman
than AJ Brown
rest of season
believe it or not
that one I could buy
yeah
I will say this.
The Colts had what might have been the perfect game plan against the Raiders defense.
They just kept widening out the guys outside,
and then it was a different guy just coming underneath.
It was Josh Downs at one point.
It was Pittman at one point.
It was Tyler Warren at one point.
I mean, they were just finding soft spots in the zone
and chipping their way down the field the entire time.
It was just so well designed by Shane Steichen,
and Daniel Jones executed it to perfection.
And, you know, when you see things,
things like that like is that a flaw of the Raiders defense probably yes it's 100% that just seeing how the the Colts were operating this like it was it was literally unstoppable they had the Raiders had no answer for it and then it was just Jonathan Taylor mixing in and just I don't know like they they're doing a lot of things very well oh yeah at this point like I think the question is now maybe to Heath only I think Dave and I kind of feel the same way like are you are you buying Daniel Jones
yet he's i mean he's doing a very good job of playing quarterback i just what i had him 13th this
week he scored 20 fantasy points that sounds about right 13th in a week with four teams on a buy and
you know no lamar jackson yeah i mean i think he's a borderline qb one he's got the cardinals
next week at home two teams are on a buy could you see yourself ranking him top 12 i think it's
very possible i mean it was 13 today right okay
All right. Jonathan Taylor, three more touchdowns.
All right. How about, oh, by the way, Michael Pittman has five touchdowns this year, I think,
and his career high, oh, does he have four?
He's approaching a career high already.
Dallas 37, Jets 22. Jets had the ball for 34 minutes and 36 seconds.
Who's coached the year right now?
Is it a chance?
Shanahan.
So Shanhan was going to be the one I was going to say just because managing through the injuries.
But Scyken, I mean.
Oh, yeah.
right there. I'm with you, Jamie. Yeah. Great point, Jamie. So I'm just getting ready. I'm just
warming up. Yeah, you're right, Jamie. Great take. Uh,
all right. Heath, what do you got for Dallas and the Jets? That's well. That was great.
David and he didn't know idea we were talking. Oh, yeah. He told us just, um, who have we not
talked about in this game? We haven't talked about Javon. Rees-Hole. Brise Hull was awesome today.
He was.
He was really awesome.
Believe it or not.
I believe it.
He almost had a touchdown, too.
Well, I guess I would ask, are you concerned?
Please don't take this question of me being like, I'm concerned about it.
But each of the last two weeks, Justin Fields and Garrett Wilson, have really late in the game,
garbage time against the dolphins and cowboys have saved their bacon.
So is that a sign of underlying issues that?
that we're ignoring here, you know, with the Jets passing game?
I think if the Jets, like, all of a sudden had a defense, then Garrett Wilson would be in big
trouble, but their defense is awful, so they're probably going to keep having to throw 15
passes in the fourth quarter.
Okay, because right now I think Garrett Wilson is one of the big storylines of fantasy football.
I mean, he's having the breakout that certainly I did not think he could have.
he's been he's been freaking great uh so i think we'll talk about that maybe on wednesday
okay mason taylor i think worth noting again 12 targets 24% rostered they get denver next week
we'll see what they can do to the afternoon games tampa bay 38 and seattle 35 um
chris godwin's not going to be startable i was so disappointed with uh with the lack of
targets i think he got everything in his first half and then the second half baker just started
firing more to abuka um certainly a little the touchdown to sterling shepherd i i think you take
a step back with godwin now i i think maybe we rushed him into our flex too soon okay adam you
nailed it with uh darnell yeah uh thank you my guess i wish i'd been a little more he's gonna be good
again next week.
Yeah, well, look, I think the formula for him is they're going to have to throw more than
24 times.
He's just, no one's really good enough to rely on that.
And what did he throw today?
30-something?
34 times, which still isn't a huge amount.
Monster game, just a really bad interception late that costs them the game.
Off a helmet.
I mean, it wasn't a great throw, but, you know, it wasn't in fact like he threw it right
into the, you know, Lamonte David's hands.
I think the, so it was nine.
The 34 attempts is nine more than his average
and just slightly more than what the bucks were allowing per game.
So they were allowing 31 and a half pass attempts a game.
Donald came in averaging 25 pass attempts per game.
So I think anything you're getting north of 30,
you have the chance for some, you know,
I don't want to say high-end production, but quality production.
And, I mean, you can make a case.
We saw two of the best receivers in the NFL today,
like with what JSN is doing and what a Mecca-A is doing.
Like these two guys are studs at this point.
Did I say this on the preview that ESPN has their analytics
where they have an open rating for every wide receiver in tight end?
They have a score.
A mecca, Buka was dead last at wide receiver in open score going into week five.
I was really stunned by that.
I mean, I don't know what to make of that.
I make nothing of it because the production has just been so good.
He's amazing.
Because we're starting him in fantasy.
Yeah, he's pretty impressive.
I mean, he's doing this five games into his career.
Rashad White struggled to run the ball a little bit against a great run defense, but he got basically all the work.
So 81% of the snaps, all the third downs are 11 of them, all of the snaps inside the 10, there were three of them.
Sean Tucker is just a handcuff at this point.
Charbonnet had more carries, or snaps rather, than one.
Walker. Sharbonnet, 57% of the snaps, Walker 43, all but one of the third down snaps
went to Charbonnet. That's 8 of 9. Two of three snaps inside the five also went to Zach
Charbonnet. We are right back where we started after week one with these running backs.
It's amazing they go to Antonio Gibbs. Yeah. Last thing on this game is...
There's something up there with Travion and why they won't feed him like we want him to.
Last thing on this game is that Kate Otten had four catches for 81 yards on five targets going into week five.
The Seahawks gave up the most fantasy points to tight ends.
So just always keep that in mind.
They have Brenton Strange.
You still have a chance to pick him up.
Brenton Strange next week for Seattle.
Detroit 37, Cincinnati 24.
Sam LaFourta is a top four tight-in rest of season.
Don't believe it.
Yeah, I'm not ready to buy that.
This was him taking advantage of a favorable matchup.
Sell high on San Leporta?
Yeah, I don't know how many games he's going to have 92 yards along with the touchdown.
The problem is, is that what tight end are you pivoting to?
You can start streaming.
If you're ready to follow with streaming.
If you're getting a stud for Leporta, then sure.
But like, who's giving you something significant for Leporta?
Somebody who's probably sure.
Streaming tight ends and is sick of it.
Somebody that picked Joanne Johnson instead of A.J. Barner.
What's the problem with streaming?
There's no problem with streaming, but...
Sorry, that was for Heath because he kept going,
the problem with streaming and could get it out.
What's the problem with streaming?
No, I'm not telling you.
Okay, that's a secret.
I'm going to tell everybody on FFT Dynasty on Tuesday.
Okay, there you go.
You know, David...
James is dropable?
Well, we started the show with him, so I don't think he's dropable, but...
The show you started early that's not on the schedule.
Yeah, exactly.
So I'm hoping that, with this lion's offense,
I just hope one of these weeks is the Jima week.
You know, it just hasn't happened.
Back outdoors again next week.
It's just not his formula.
Okay, so, yeah, the David Montgomery storyline,
I think, you know, he had a passing touchdown.
Let's see, his star percentage was 82%.
All right, that's it for that game.
He was good.
He actually led the Lions and snaps.
Okay.
Tennessee 22, Arizona 21.
Can I give you one last?
Do you know? ESPN just, or Shepter just tweet this?
No.
It's the 14th time that they've scored a touchdown in the same game, Montgomery and Gibbs.
That ties the record for Daryl Johnston and Emmett Smith.
And Moose was on the call talking about it.
Oh, that's awesome.
Oh, cool.
Wow.
Okay.
Sorry, let's go to the next game.
Titans 22 and Cardinals 21.
The problem with streaming.
No.
Tony Pollard and Calvin Ridley
are both starts again next week
against the Raiders.
Did you say against the Raiders?
Aren't they?
Yes, they're playing the Raiders.
That's why I'm going to consider starting them.
Oh, I heard it the same way like,
well, you got the schedule wrong.
Dave, you tricked us.
Yeah.
That's me, Mr. Trickster.
They've got New England after that.
You got like one more week with Pollard and Ridley.
Tony Pollard against the Raiders
or Derek Henry against the Rams,
against the Rams with Cooper Russia quarterback.
Oh, that's so close.
No hesitation, Pollard.
Yeah, Pollard's got the better matchup.
Should have the same amount of touches, maybe close to it.
That's Henry.
Certainly more catches.
You can make the case.
If it's, this is August of 2026,
are you drafting a tight end in the first three rounds next year?
I don't think so.
As of right now, no.
except for AJ Barner.
So Poller did fumble, but he stayed in the game and obviously stayed in the game.
He stayed with the lead role.
It was Spears's first game back.
Keep that in mind.
Spears barely got any touches.
But I just want to caution on the Ridley thing a little bit.
This was the worst offense in the NFL going in.
It still is probably the worst offense in the NFL.
So I don't think Calvin Ridley has earned automatic start status.
No, it's 24 hours ago.
would have taken Iow Manor over Ridley rest of season.
Now we're calling Ridley a must start.
I mean, I didn't say must start.
Must start isn't the right term at all.
It's a possible start.
And there's only two teams on by.
It's going to be hard to put Calvin Ridley as a top 30 receiver in my rankings.
But he is going to be someone that you should consider because of the matchup against the Raiders.
I suppose you guys one in week six.
Jay McBride or Darren Waller?
Jay McBride.
I don't know, man.
The dolphins in their history have never had a veteran tight end emerge midway through
this season and be a must-start fantasy option.
Oh, stop.
Now you're making choices.
Except this is exactly what happened last year with John Isbeth.
Right.
I have one league where actually, it's a 14-team league where I picked up Darren Waller
and I started him as a flex, but I have McBride.
McBride.
McBride doesn't score touchdowns, right?
what all Waller's done is score touchdowns
and then get blanked in the second half
against Carolina. Keith, who did you pivot to
the most if there is an answer to that
with all your Brock Bowers shares? Like, who was the
tight end you added? Oh, probably Tommy
Trimble. I had Harold
fan on the bench a couple of teams and just started him, so that
worked out okay. Okay. But, yeah.
All right. Last game, guys. Commanders,
Chargers. Big win for Washington. Impressive.
And Justin Herbert has now scored fewer
than 17 fantasy points in six point
per pass and touchdown leagues in three
straight weeks against Denver,
the Giants, and the commanders.
Heath, what do we got for this one, 2710, Washington?
Quentin, Johnston,
fooled you.
Oh, man.
Just the moment, we all buy
an on him the number one wide receiver
on the Chargers the rest of the season.
And is it coincidence or not
coincidence that this happened when the Chargers
offensive line lost their third
tackle? They're swinging.
tackle who was starting and then their guard
who was hurt coming into the game also left
the game and Justin Herbert was
under siege so he couldn't throw
down field to Quentin Johnston
and look who had a bunch of targets
the short area guys
Keenan Allen at that 7
by low it's off to Miami
we go but you can't just buy low because of next week's
matchup you got to believe in him rest of season
well I mean yes that is 100%
accurate but you
do have to worry about the run game now
if Hampton is going to miss any time with the ankle injury.
There's no way to tell because he was trying to get back in the game
and then he walked off to the locker room late in the fourth quarter.
I can't believe we're going to be talking about Kamani Vidal is a waiver wire guy
going into week five, but it's against dolphins.
And Rico Dattle just ran for 200 yards against them.
So Vidal might be the number one priority.
I think in the case of Herbert, like 60 yards rushing helped him to get to 16.
fantasy points like this is bad this is really bad for him you know so for what you've gotten out
of the first three of the five weeks of the season or two of the five weeks i guess of the season
um you should be thrilled about that i'm gonna guess you didn't start him in a lot of leagues in
week one taking on chiefs and week two you probably did in the weeks three four and five
have been largely disappointed by the production so you should start him next week against
Miami, depending on who else you have on
your team. But this
is now a big issue, mostly because of
the offensive line concerns. I would really worry too much
about Quentin Johnson. I think he'll be okay.
Agreed. I want to name
four teams. You guys think about the pass
rush on these teams. Think about the secondary on
these teams. Which one scare you?
Miami.
Indy.
Minnesota. Yep. Tennessee.
Nope.
What did you say for Indy?
I think their defense is
is pretty good, it seems.
I mean,
Giro Smith made their defense look like the 2000 Ravens today.
But other than that,
it's,
I don't think Indy,
I think Indy is overrated based on how they play today.
I think they're okay.
Those are the next four games for the Chargers.
And if Omar and Hampton is somehow out for those games,
Justin Herbert is going to have some monster numbers.
Yeah.
And I mean,
I don't know,
I don't know that the running back being out is a good thing.
You know,
I've had this discussion before.
I don't know if I'm right.
But my theory is more like bad running game means bad offense.
It means third and long, you know, means fewer points.
Yeah, just like the Chiefs.
What do you mean?
The Chiefs don't have a run offense and they're doing fine.
Yeah, I mean, it's true.
I think there are exceptions, but I don't think.
I mean, the thing with Hampton is he's such a target hog.
Yeah, that helps.
And if he's out, if he's out, that's just,
The receivers too.
Did Gibson fumble?
No,
Keon Cole won this time.
Oh, okay.
All right, guys.
That's it for our show.
Sounds like we got a real barn burner in Buffalo going on so far.
No score, but three fumbles.
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