Fantasy Football Today - Week 8 NFL DFS Main Slate - Are there multiple stacks with Cowboys QB Dak Prescott?

Episode Date: October 28, 2023

Sia Nejad and Mike McClure tell you how to navigate a loaded Week 8 schedule. Join Our Week 8 NFL DFS Contest! 02:18 - Eagles (-7) at Commanders (43.5) 04:21 - Patriots (+9.5) at Dolphins (47) 07:15... - Rams (+6) at Cowboys (45.5) 13:30 - Jaguars (-2.5) at Steelers (41) 15:20 - Vikings (-1.5) at Packers (42) 19:18 - Jets (-2.5) at Giants (36.5) 21:15 - Texans (-3.5) at Panthers (43.5) 23:49 - Falcons (-2.5) at Titans (36.5) 24:45 - Saints (-1) at Colts (44) 32:00 - Browns (+3.5) at Seahawks (38) 35:38 - Chiefs (-7) at Broncos (47) 38:54 - Ravens (-9.5) at Cardinals (44.5) 42:17 - Bengals (+4) at 49ers (43.5) 'Fantasy Football Today DFS' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT DFS team on Twitter: @FFToday, @Mike5754 @SiaNejad Watch FFT DFS on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today DFS on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Metrolinks and Crosslinks are reminding everyone to be careful as Eglinton Crosstown LRT train testing is in progress. Please be alert as trains can pass at any time on the tracks. Remember to follow all traffic signals, be careful along our tracks, and only make left turns where it's safe to do so. Be alert, be aware, and stay safe. what's up everybody and welcome to fantasy football today dfs we've got a lot to cover today with a 13 game slate and of course i do it with my partner on crime on fridays mike mcclure mike how you doing doing well see a Good to see you here. Ready for
Starting point is 00:01:25 the slate. As you mentioned, 13 games. It's amazing how much different a 10-game slate feels from a 13-game slate. There's just so many additional options on this slate. I was going to ask you about that, actually. And first of all, I got to tell people, Mike and I were talking before the show, and he has a lot of really interesting takes, and I have a lot of really interesting takes. And I guess that leads to my question before we get into this the show and he has a lot of like really interesting takes and I have a lot of really interesting takes. So it and I guess that leads to my question before we get into this slate and we'll start with Eagles commanders. But do you approach a slate any differently? Like we have no buys. That's why we have the 13 games. Do you approach this slate any differently from and I don't even necessarily mean from a lineup construction standpoint,
Starting point is 00:02:01 but in terms of maybe do you extend out a little bit your, I know you usually play five lineups, for example, do you play a few more lineups because it's a bigger slate or you just, you approach it the same exact way? It's generally approaching it the same way for me. I like to be super consistent, you know, for a lot of people, I think it's fine to play more or less based on what you like. For me personally, I just like to play the exact same contest every week. It just
Starting point is 00:02:25 keeps everything really, really organized and straightforward for me. So what happens here is I simply typically end up crossing out three to four games where I just have no interest at all. Well, and that's, it's funny you say that it's a great transition because, because it's a 13 game slate and this is usually an hour or less show, usually less than an hour. We don't want to spend too much of your time on games that we know we're not going to have pieces in. So of these 13 games, there's going to be at least a few that we just kind of fly through. So if you have a question about a game that we skipped, go ahead and ask it in the chat, or maybe you can ask message me later and ask me about it. Certainly don't mind answering those questions. I see a lot of you in the chat.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Please hit the like button. Don't forget the contest. It'll probably be in the chat, by the way, the link to it, but either way, it's always in the podcast description and the YouTube description, so join our contest. It's about half full at this point. It usually fills up by Saturday, Saturday night, so let's get that done soon. By the way, we have nine games at 1 o'clock. We have four games at the
Starting point is 00:03:20 4 o'clock time frame. One is at 4.05, three at 4.25. Again, I point that out for late swap purposes. Let's start with Eagles commanders. This is a 43 and a half point total, Mike. I think this is interesting for one reason and one reason only it's the Eagle side. Like in a game like this, do we want to stack the Eagles? Washington does tend to play the Eagles tough. I don't really think that matters the way Washington's playing defensively. I think the question becomes, do you play AJ BrownJ. Brown? Do you play a Hurts stack? Among all the other stacks we're going to have to choose from,
Starting point is 00:03:47 do you play a Hurts stack? And do you get kind of contrarian with, let's say, a Devontae Smith or maybe get DeAndre Swift in your lineups? There's a lot of good running backs to play. So DeAndre Swift has sort of fallen down my board a little bit. Do you like anything in this game? You know, I think that all those guys are fine one-offs. I'm not going to fall on stack Jalen Hurts in this game personally.
Starting point is 00:04:07 You know, I do think it could get overly competitive. Washington does have a knack for playing this team competitive. I think it's going to be a little bit of a slower, ugly game, one that Philly's really never truly in doubt in terms of winning. So my preferred way to look at it, like I think you could sprinkle in Devontae. I think he's fine. My preferred method on this game, though, is honestly looking in the sports betting market. And it's going to be longest reception overs for A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Like I think we definitely see big plays in the game. I do think possessions overall could be somewhat limited. So I'm personally at their price point points going to be staying off of it. But I have no issues playing either A.J. Brown or Devante Smith or frankly, DeAndre Swift, you know, as kind of one off plays. I don't recommend stacking them. Yeah, I'm not going to stack this game either. I'll probably kind of a spoiler alert. I do think it's not because I think Devante Smith is due necessarily. I do think, though, that because this Washington defense is so susceptible to the long ball, I do think we could see a couple of catches by Devontae Smith, a couple long balls, maybe land in the end zone.
Starting point is 00:05:13 It could be sort of that Devontae Smith game because of this defensive matchup. So I think that's something to consider since nobody's going to be paying up for Devontae Smith on this particular slate. So those are things to consider maybe in your bigger entry contests. Let's move on, though. Patriots plus 9.5 at the Dolphins, 47-point total. This one's a lot more interesting. I've checked the weather.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I checked it a couple days ago. I'll refresh and make sure I'm looking at it again. But I don't think there's any weather concern in this game down in Miami. I think a Tua stack is certainly in play. It's expensive. There's other stacks we probably like. Pulling Tyreek Hale at 9,500 from this game, in Miami. I think a two a stack is certainly in play. It's expensive. There's other stacks. We probably like pulling Tyree kale at 9,500 from this game. Super expensive. I'm not sure I'm getting there. He has that hip injury, which by the way, I'm not really worried about, but it's just something to point out. Raheem Mostert, 7,700, certainly priced up. That's
Starting point is 00:05:58 good news in the sense that he'll probably be like lower owned. Obviously it's the Patriot side though, Mike, that I'm interested in. Kendrick Bourne's obviously been good. We've talked about him on this show. DeMario Douglas, only 3,300 on this slate. Are you interested in the big time pieces on Miami? And are you playing anybody on the other side? You know, I'm interested in Tyreek Hill, obviously.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Spoiler alert, he's really, really good. So I like playing Tyreek Hill whenever I can. I typically pay up for wide receivers like that on DraftKings where we're getting the full point PPR, especially with guys that we can generally expect eight to 10 receptions from just creates such a high floor, right? So I like Tyreek still. I like the fact that it's in Miami. We do have to check the weather. There could always be rain in Miami, but overall when dealing with any sort of injury i'm more comfortable when it's 80 degrees outside as opposed to being in new england where it could be colder so i do like this spot for him uh on the other side kendrick bourne is
Starting point is 00:06:55 interesting to me the price point at 4700 he's going to be super popular um i i'm not going to go there i'm actually going to be fading him this week. I like Douglas a little better, just the salary savings, $3,300. I'm not stacking to Tyreek, though. I think this is a Tyreek Hill-only situation for me. Yeah, I don't mind that at all. And by the way, I'm looking at the weather down in Miami where I just moved from. Somebody asked me where I am. I thought that was kind of a vague question, but maybe where is my location?
Starting point is 00:07:24 I moved from Miami to the northern Virginia area, right outside of DC. So if that answers your question, but it does sort of reference me being sort of from Miami the last 17 years. It looks like we have a decent chance of showers, like 40%. And it looks like the wind might be up a little bit, nothing like crazy, but we could be looking at 15 to 20 mile per hour winds. That doesn't necessarily mean sustained winds, something basically, you know, you're going to want to look into on Sunday, but something to consider. Did you mention DeMario Douglas? Am I out in left field on DeMario at 3,300? He's obviously been stepping it up. Juju Smith-Schuster's probably back this week, but I still think in a negative game script, DeMario could kind of, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:03 break one or still get maybe four to six targets. Any thoughts there? Yeah, I don't mind it. I, you know, I think the most attractive point here is obviously the price point, right? 3,300. There's a lot of wiggle room there. There's a massive difference between 3,300 and 4,700 over on DraftKings. So if you want to speculate on any of those, I honestly, I don't mind Douglas there. I think no one's really going to play him. So I think it's, I have no issues. I think if I were to do that, it would probably be the scenario where I'm playing Tyreek Hill. Yeah, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:08:33 All right, let's move on to the Rams plus six at the Cowboys. This is a 45 and a half point total. This one's interesting. And Mike, I know you have a lot of interest, so I'm going to kind of seed the floor to you and just get your thoughts. I mean, listen, Dak Prescott, he's 6,100. CeeDee Lamb, 7,600. Michael Gallup, really interesting. Super inefficient last week, but he was getting the targets. He had 10 targets, I believe, only caught three of them. He's only 3,400.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Jake Ferguson gets a lot of targets with the exception of last week, 3,600. And then, of course, Cooper Kopp, 9K. Nakua, 7,600. There's a lot of pieces here, Pollard in this game, too. What do you like in this one? I like all of it, Sia. This is my favorite game of the week. I think this game is going to be a competitive shootout back and forth. I really – I like the Cowboys' chances of winning it,
Starting point is 00:09:17 but I do like the Rams' ability to push. I think this is a good matchup overall for Dak Prescott. I love that it's a controlled environment, playing indoors. It really helps both of these teams. They play much better when they're playing in those domes. For me, it's going to start with Dak Prescott. At $6,100, the price point has fallen quite a bit. He's a $7,000 quarterback when he's playing in a matchup like this.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I like Tony Pollard a lot. I like Michael Gallup. Again, the most attractive thing about Michael Gallup, efficiency wasn't necessarily there. The targets are there. The price point is there. When you look at that price point, just $3,400, very, very attractive in this kind of a matchup. And then the tight end, Jake Ferguson. I don't think the Rams are going to be successful covering tight ends this season, the way they set up defensively. So I think there's going to be successful covering tight ends this season, the way they set up defensively. So I think there's going to be a lot of work over the middle of the field. That's where Tony Pollard's going to come in out of the backfield,
Starting point is 00:10:10 and that's where Jake Ferguson is going to come in. So I really, really like stacking the Dallas side with a Cooper Cup bring back on the other side. That will be my primary stack this week. Are you okay with people saying, I don't want to pay for Cooper Cup, I'm dropping down to Nakua at 7,600? I don't mind it. I don't mind it. I think it would be an excellent bounce back,
Starting point is 00:10:33 buy low opportunity on Cooper Cup. We basically just saw him have his worst game in a year and a half in that last game, which really was unfortunate. I had a great week on FanDuel, by the way. 10X on FanDuel with Cooper cup in my lineup at six fantasy points just a uh it was very very close to a a big one was waiting for his big second half touchdown that he always has that never came uh i think his ownership is going to be single digits this week honestly i i think cooper cup at his price point will be single digit ownership i
Starting point is 00:11:05 think the field is going to jump off of him completely after what we saw um so because dak prescott is my favorite stack i will be heavy on cooper cup on the bring back this week i like it i have one more question on this game before we move on uh but we do have a question from uh week 2k i guess is how you pronounce it. He asked about, I think, Terry McLaurin. Was it he that, yeah, he asked about McLaurin or Dotson, a good play when we were on that Eagles game. I'm not playing either of them, especially not playing Dotson.
Starting point is 00:11:35 He just hasn't gotten there. McLaurin got there late in the game last week. He really wasn't involved the first three quarters. With that said, I would only consider McLaurin if I'm playing like the early slate only, which I recommend. I almost hit huge, Mike, when I played the early slate only last week. So keep that in mind. There's different variations to these slates. But no, it's a no for McLaurin for me. Mike, I assume he's not on your radar either. Yeah, not on my radar. Nobody on the Washington side personally.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Honestly, if I was going to play any Eagles, it's not in there now. The only one I could see myself really getting to is probably A.J. Brown in a lineup where I wasn't going to play either Tyreek or Cooper Cove. Yeah, and one last question on the Cowboys. So I know you play limited lineups, but let's just give out an example lineup, something that you might actually play or that you're likely to play with a DAX deck. Because I'm just curious, is it with CD? Like if, if I could almost classify it as like a primary, your first Dallas lineup would be,
Starting point is 00:12:30 would it be DAC with CD or would it be DAC with some of these lower price guys that we just mentioned? The lower price guys that you mentioned, I'm going to build it out real quick, but it's going to be DAC to Gallup and Ferguson. And then on the bring back, you'll start with Cooper cop, potentially a Tony Pollard lineup. It could be a full on stack there.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Alvin Kamara is going to be heavily featured. You'll see grease hall. Some of them like, I have no clue on defense yet. I have not run a ton of defensive stuff. Let's just. And as you're, as you're looking at that, I'll mention that pollard's getting over 80 of the backfield touches and that so even though he hasn't been great uh in this matchup
Starting point is 00:13:11 it's you can run on the ram so it would make sense to play a little bit of pollard yeah yeah i like pollard a lot i think that uh he's definitely a stackable piece um yeah definitely a stackable piece. All right. Are you still in lineup build mode? Yeah. So basically run through one. It'd be like Dak Prescott, Alvin Kamara, Brees Hall, Cooper Cup, Michael Gallup, a blank spot at wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:13:36 Ferguson, blank spot at flex. And you'll basically, for those two, the wide receiver and the flex, if you use a $2,500 defense, you have 6K, 6,100 each. So yeah, you can go all the way up to Tyreek and all the way down to one of the cheaps.
Starting point is 00:13:51 You can play any of those receivers in the mid range that we'll talk about here in a little bit. So maybe potentially Jamar chase. We'll talk about that game in a bit, but there are definitely options to do it. Love it. I love that lineup. All right. Well, but there are definitely options to do it. Love it. Love that lineup. All right. Well, we got to move on to the next game here, which is going to be Jaguars and Steelers. But before we do that, let's take a break and hear a word from our partners. The score bet app here with trusted stats and real-time sports news.
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Starting point is 00:15:25 It has nothing to do with DFS. I'm personally liking the Steelers in this game if Deontay Johnson is healthy, and that kind of plays into the DFS. I know he sat out of practice yesterday with what appears to be a hamstring issue. I don't know if that was just rest or an aggravation, but he's 5,000, and I actually, Mike, I like that going into the week because he looked really good last week, And we know he commands the targets. Obviously, Pickens would be in play.
Starting point is 00:15:47 But this game in general, not loving it. I certainly don't like anything on the Jaguars side. I think the Steelers defense, especially at home, is extremely formidable. I think Trevor Lawrence is going to have moments where he just looks confused because that happens sometimes when he gets pressure. Anything on this game? Not really. There's one I mentioned that you'll see later in the cheat sheet-ish
Starting point is 00:16:07 in the top threes. It's going to be Evan Ingram for one reason. I do think that Moran struggles, and I like the way that he targets him in some of those situations. So I think that Evan Ingram on a week where you may not be getting all the way up to Travis Kelsey, I think that Evan Ingram at 4,500 is going to be expensive enough that he's like over owned. I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:28 under owned relatives as guys like Jake Ferguson, who we just kind of talked about, but the target volume, he gets targeted more like a wide receiver than a tight end. Yeah. Agree on that. And then, you know, Christian Kirk's 5,900, Calvin Ridley, 5,800. If Zay Jones is out, I think Christian Kirk would normally be in play. But again, this is a 13-game slate. I'm just not interested in taking any of these Jacksonville pieces, and that includes Travis Etienne.
Starting point is 00:16:53 So let's move on. Again, if you have questions about these games, feel free to put them in the chat. Those of you that are asking redraft questions, sorry, just because of the time limitations of this show, like there's just no way we can answer those. But if you have a specific DFS question uh certainly go ahead and put it in the chat vikings minus one and a half at the packers uh 42 point total not a lot i'm interested
Starting point is 00:17:13 in here i mean part of me wants to monitor aaron jones and see if he's like definitely playing and i think you could run aaron jones and like a jordan addison on the other side just just somewhat some small correlation there. But I don't think I'm getting to any of that. The one thing about Addison that I like is I think Kirk Cousins, just like he just targets his number one receiver, and we know Addison has talent. So I don't think what we saw last week is an aberration
Starting point is 00:17:36 in terms of the quality of targets that Addison was getting. He's only 5,700. It's interesting, but it's at Green Bay. I think I'm just out on this game. Yeah, this one is interesting to me. The low total, not super attractive outdoors at Green Bay. The first thing you need to look at when we get this late in the year is what's the weather going to do there, right?
Starting point is 00:17:56 It actually isn't bad, 40 degrees. That's warm for Green Bay, basically. Very comfortable football weather overall, so I'm not worried about it from that angle. I think the thing that's so fascinating about the Minnesota Vikings is they do two things at an alarming rate, like much higher than league average. That's throw the football. They don't run the football much at all. They throw the football a ton and they blitz at an alarming rate defensively. Now, how will Jordan Love handle that that blitz i think is very very interesting i think the one thing that i could see from him which is it makes him dfs viable i think he could
Starting point is 00:18:31 have a massive day with his legs i think that there's scenarios here where jordan love could run for 60 plus yards um whether or not i jam him in and dfs i don't think i'm going to get there because of some of the other situations uh but i will have some interest in looking at some of his player props, most specifically looking at his rushing yards. That number right now is set at 15 and a half, a number that he is routinely hitting. He had one day against Detroit, negative two rushing yards. But basically every other game he's going over this.
Starting point is 00:19:06 He's had long rushes of 24, 24, and 26 this season. When you're facing a team that's going to be blitzing as much as they are, I think that it's probably a better look in the betting market if you have access to it. But don't discount it because that definitely helps a DFS floor. Yeah. A quick question not related to this game from Michael Pace. He says, thoughts on Walker playing for Seattle? I know he didn't practice yesterday and Zach Charbonnet had a full practice. So, I mean, that does impact the slate. I mean, we'll have to kind of wait and
Starting point is 00:19:38 see on that. Mike, do you have an opinion on Ken Walker in terms of whether he plays on Sunday? I don't have a strong take on it i generally think that he would um you know the the non-participant versus a limited participant is certainly always interesting um you know i i think that it's one of those situations it's a late game like you're we don't need to know that information just yet. I know we're doing the show right now and doing things like that. If he is ruled out, I think the biggest thing to watch out for is Charbonnet probably gets it
Starting point is 00:20:15 all, but we've seen weird things with guys like DJ Dallas before. We're going to have to do a lot of digging if that ends up happening. But overall, I think that he probably still goes um but if he doesn't yeah it's something we can handle on twitter handle on sportsline i'll address it in my article there uh but honestly it's not a situation i've dug too deeply into just yet yeah i like that and for the record i'm going to be playing um like last week i played
Starting point is 00:20:41 more early slate than afternoon slate of course i, I played the main slate too, but this week, because of the four games versus the nine games, I think I'm going to be focused on a lot of afternoon slate lineups. And I think that for me, that's when Charbonnet is really going to have an impact potentially if Kenneth Walker is not playing. Certainly, I would consider him in the main slate too. But just again, I have to stress, consider alternate slates, alternative slates, early slate, afternoon slate, certainly all in play. What's not in play for me, other than one player, is this Jets-Giants game. Jets minus two and a half at the Giants, 36 and a half point total. Breece Hall is 5,900.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Well, that makes a lot of sense. He's going to be chalky. Put him in your cash lineups. Maybe fade him in tournaments. And by the way, I think the chalky running backs, we mentioned Pollard. Mike referenced Kamara, which we'll get to i think bijan because of his price is going to get some ownership cmc pacheco we'll get to him too but breeze hall is one of those guys that's going to be up there let me just ask you is he the only guy you're interested in and are you playing breeze hall i'm playing breeze hall for sure um may not be a lock button situation, but certainly going to have
Starting point is 00:21:45 a healthy amount. Other old guys in the game, I don't think so. Like Garrett Wilson is talented enough. You can play him as a one off if you want to, but certainly not a game environment
Starting point is 00:21:59 that I really want to attack. So for me, it's Brees Hall and potentially a defense. And that's it. Yeah, I'm definitely probably not going to play Garrett Wilson. It's not because I don't think he can have a big game. I just think there's other options I'm going to be going to. I really just don't want a piece of that game other than Brees Hall. So, and I'll be playing him definitely in my cash. I think Brees Hall, Kamara and Pacheco, Mike, real quick, I think those are like my three
Starting point is 00:22:22 favorite cash game options. I'm not asking you to like my three favorite cash game options I'm not asking you to necessarily list your favorite cash game options because I'm just kind of asking you this on the fly but Kamara Pacheco Breesall kind of off the top of your head here are those three of your more favorite cash game options double up options yep those would be the three um if you want to justify Tony Pollard all the way up to 7500500 with Kamara. That would definitely change your lineup construction a little bit, but yeah, it's Kamara Pacheco and Brees Hall pretty clearly the top. And until we have a definitive answer on Seattle.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Gotcha. All right. Let's talk about the Texans minus three and a half at the Panthers. This is a 43 and a half point total. This one is at least interesting to me. You know, I think CJ Stroud is at 6,300. I think Tank Dell is back. He's 4,900. Obviously, Nico Collins, 5,500. I don't even want to say this
Starting point is 00:23:12 is sneaky. It's not like CJ Stroud is sneaky anymore, but I think both sides of the ball can potentially move it. Now, on the Carolina side, I'm not exactly sure what's going on with Hubbard and Miles Sanders, so I don't know that I want to get involved there unless one of them is actually sitting out the game. Obviously, Thielen's in play, but he's priced up, Mike, at $6,600. I'm just not quite as interested, even though I know he's probably going to pay off that price. With that said, are you interested in stacking this game or any pieces in this game? I'm not going to personally. I thought initially what I just saw the matchup, but CJ Stroud's up to sixty three hundred dollars. He is more expensive than Joe Burrow. He's more expensive than Dak Prescott.
Starting point is 00:23:54 He's more expensive to Jordan Love, who I think has a ton of rushing upside this week. It's just a situation where the price points got a little out of hand, in my opinion. So I'm not going to be anywhere on this game. I get it if you want to play Adam Thielen. I really do. But based on everything I'm projecting and running here, like they're so similarly priced to the Dallas Cowboys that I would rather go that route.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Like, honestly, I would rather have Dak Prescott and Michael Gallup or Dak Prescott and his tight end, Jake Ferguson, than CJ Stroud and one of those pass catchers. Just the game environment overall. And it's cheaper. So I'm going to be off this game. Yeah, fair enough. I mean, I think if you wanted to get crazy,
Starting point is 00:24:39 I think you could double stack Stroud with Tank Dell and Nico Collins and just hope you get lucky on this game. And of course, you can run it back with Thielen or maybe you try to get lucky with Mingo or DJ Shark. I think, you know, keep in mind, Mike and I aren't like doing the 150 max stuff, right? I mean, Mike, sometimes you do that mostly for showdown, but you're, you know, you're generally keeping things pretty condensed in terms of your tournament selection. So if you're playing a lot of lineups, I think you could get involved in this game with respect to like a heavy stack on the Texan side
Starting point is 00:25:07 with maybe one bring back, or maybe just you stack them with one of these two receivers, Nico and Tank Dell. But I'm probably, Mike, I agree with you. There's other games that we're coming up on that I really like, so I'm probably staying out of that. By the way, Garrett has a question. Juan Dillon option, avoiding Reed and Sauce.
Starting point is 00:25:21 He asks, yeah, not really. I mean, I don't know who's playing quarterback. I think it's going to be Tyrod mean i don't know who's playing quarterback i think it's going to be tyrod i don't know if it's daniel jones but i'm just avoiding that game uh i think waller's interesting if tyrod taylor's the quarterback um and then we can just kind of move on from there he's 5200 he could have a big game but i'm probably not getting there uh falcons minus two and a half at the titans this one's interesting for maybe one or two primary reasons one is bijan's only 6,000.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And I think everybody expects him to respond from last week. Not that he got benched or anything, but he had those headaches. He really didn't play much. And I think Arthur Smith is kind of probably feeling the heat a little bit just in terms of not just last week, but just in general, not using Bijan properly. I mean, I think I say that with some confidence. There have been high leverage situations, like high impact situations late in games where he's deferred to Tyler Algier
Starting point is 00:26:06 and the statistics don't back that up. So I think Bijan gets a normal workload. He's only 6,000. I'm not playing him in cash, but I think in tournaments he's interesting. He's probably going to carry some ownership. The only other guy that I think is interesting because nobody's going to play him is Derrick Henry. Do you like anything in this game?
Starting point is 00:26:23 I mean, I like Bijan a little bit in a tournament, just with the price point there. Derrick Henry, again, always interesting. I don't love the volume that we've seen. Mostly off of it, I probably will end up with one B. John lineup, though, at 6K. Yeah, okay. And as far as Derrick Henry, everybody keep in mind, Vontane Hill not play in this game it's looking to be some combination of will levis and uh malik willis i don't know that they've come to a determination as to you know whether one of those guys is definitely starting and finishing the game so either way it's not a great situation uh for derrick henry in terms of the falcons have
Starting point is 00:27:00 been good against the run by the way uh but also like they're probably going to stack the box i don't think malik willis or will levis is really scaring anybody with their arm, at least not at this juncture of their careers. Speaking of not scaring anybody with their arm, the Saints are minus one at the Colts, 44 point total Derek Carr. Well, I mean, I don't even know what to say about Derek Carr. I was actually kind of this is like kind of a strong thing to say, but I was like a little embarrassed for him last week because he was just so mad and yelling at everybody and it was like dude clearly you're
Starting point is 00:27:28 the problem like let's not like like defer all of this and pretend like it's everybody else's fault even though chris olave clearly didn't finish that one route that he was really yelling about but you know listen i like kamara in this game i'm not going to go to the to the um gardner minshu stuff i'm probably not going to be on downs, even though he's only 4,800. Pittman's 6,500. I think Pittman and downs are interesting if you want to get crazy and try to stack this game. But to me, Mike, it's Kamara and I'm out. Kamara's 7,300. What do you think? Yes, it's Alvin Kamara. You know, we've been talking about it for weeks now. We basically both said Alvin Kamara is nearly an autoplay until his price point is 8k plus. Then you have to start thinking about it in terms of matchups.
Starting point is 00:28:09 The volume is just absolutely incredible. Touch the football 29 times against Jacksonville. I think he's got a floor of 25 touches based off what we've seen. That's what you should expect. Literally 25 touches at 25 touches with his skillset, he's frankly $8,500 player. So I love this spot for him. We've now seen multiple games with 14 targets, 12 receptions and 13 receptions. I think we see that again.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I love the usage. I honestly love how much they're using him. So Kamara and a dome against a team that we've seen has the ability to get into those shootouts. So we just saw him in one with Cleveland of all teams, right? So, yeah, give me Alvin Kamara. Just out of curiosity, because you did mention the optimal game conditions, you're not considering a Minshew stack, are you? Not exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I don't mind it. The price point is so close to Dak that I like this week. We'll talk about the San Francisco situation a little bit as well. I think it's okay. Like, there are scenarios where Gardner Minshew can get it done again, for sure. I think that 34-point performance with two rushing touchdowns is probably the anomaly here.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I don't think that's ever likely to happen again in his career. So I'm going to be off of him. And one last thing on this game. Obviously, Jonathan Taylor's starting to make an impact. The usage is increasing. But Zach Moss is still a problem in that backfield, or at least as it relates to Jonathan Taylor. I'm out on both of those guys, but JT is only 6,200.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Is that a guy you'd speculate on or not on this particular slate? I generally don't mind it. You know, it's the volume that's there. Against Cleveland, it came right back, and that's what we like to see. The thing we've been speculating on for the last few weeks here on the show is his passing work, and that's what I've been most encouraged with, right? Six targets, four targets, 45 yards. When he adds that to his game, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:06 we're starting to get to like a miniature Alvin Kamara situation where this is a $7,000 player, right? It's not a $6,000 player. So do you want to play him? I don't mind it. I think my decision on that ultimately would come down to what are you doing with Bijan? Are you taking a shot there? If you're not, or if we think the field is all going to bijon uh at 6 6200 i think that those two players are are quite similar other than i think taylor's usage is more predictable okay uh agree with that now we we've got back-to-back questions this is so perfect like our our chat is so sort of like in sync with Mike, you in particular, like, listen, this show has been talking about playing two tight ends for a couple of years now. And not that we do it every week, but like we, you always sort of incorporate that into the conversation when, when it's necessary. And we talked about it last week, by the way, the Millie maker from last week, my understanding is they, that person played two tight ends. Now, granted it wasn't a cheap tight end. They played Kelsey and Mark Andrews, which is great. Like
Starting point is 00:31:09 good job. But there's a couple of questions here. Let me start with Garrett's. He says, do you like Schultz and McBride? And we'll get to McBride by the way, as two tight ends to jam in so that you can get in Cooper cup and Tyree kill. And by the way, you could, you could say any two names at the top here. You could say CMC and Tyreek Hill. But do you like that strategy of maybe two low-end tight ends, at least from a price standpoint? I do. It is one that I will likely be using myself this week, honestly.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And the reason for that is I like Jake Ferguson as a stack with Dak Prescott. So you like Schultz, that's fine. Maybe you even like CJ Stroud better. You can play that combo instead. McBride, though, 2,800. I do kind of like having him in the flex there it does let me get Cooper Cup Alvin Kamara whatever stack I want yeah I think that that's going to be a route that I take personally so I'm glad to see people remembering it, people doing it. You know, where it started from was the Travis Kelsey experience where you're essentially calling him a wide receiver and playing a low-end tight end.
Starting point is 00:32:11 So there are scenarios, though, where it's two tight ends that are cheap here. You know, looking at this scenario for me with Ferguson at $3,600, McBride at $2,800, I would put their combo line up against some of those $5,000 wide receivers for sure. All right. I like that. And I think that answers Scott's questions. Scott, you were asking Mike, if he's done the two tight end thing this year, and actually we talked about it last week. So I know for a fact that he has, I've done it here and there as well. I wish I'd played Mark Andrews last week, that early slate, Mike, I actually would have won a tournament. Well, basically a thousand person term. I ended up finishing 22nd.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I made a decent amount of money, but if I had just paid up for a Mark Andrews, uh, and paid down from my contrarian play of Saquon Barkley paid down to, to Jameer Gibbs, uh, I would have won the whole thing. So it was just, uh, kind of frustrating. I tried to get cute with Saquon against Washington. It kind of made sense to me. Gibbs really didn't get there till towards the end of the game, in my opinion.
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Starting point is 00:33:58 There's a lot of interesting games in this afternoon slate, but I'm probably going to lead with the least interesting of those games. Browns plus three and a half at the Seahawks, 38 point total. Listen, this Browns defense, I still think is formidable. I don't understand. I truly don't understand what happened against Indianapolis. I mean, the defense looked good. And then there were times where the defense looked really, really bad, but they're at the Seahawks again, 38 point total. I'm not interested in much in this game. You know, Kareem Hunt was interesting to me, at least at the Seahawks, again, 38-point total. I'm not interested in much in this game. You know, Kareem Hunt was interesting to me,
Starting point is 00:34:27 at least at the beginning of the week, in potentially or certainly a negative game script. I mean, I can't believe this line's only three and a half now that I think about it with P.J. Walker likely starting at quarterback. But, you know, Pierre Strong likely in a neutral game script probably gets in this game a little bit. I don't think I'm interested in any Seahawks,
Starting point is 00:34:44 to be honest with you. Not on this slate, although, you know, if Zach Charbonnet ends up being the starter, obviously at 4,300, that makes a lot of sense. Any interest in anything in this game, Mike? Just waiting out that situation with the running back on Seattle side. You know, if you want to play Kareem Hunt, I think it's fine. He did sneak into my player pool. I thought it might be not only a sneak in,
Starting point is 00:35:06 but like a you got to play him kind of situation, but it's not projecting that way. Kenneth Walker, if he plays, I think is also a fine tournament play. I'm trying to look. Other than that, I don't have anyone in this game. Yeah, no, nothing. I think Kareem Hunt is fine if you want to speculate. But overall, I think I'm off this game.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah, I mean, I think as long as Kareem Hunt is healthy, and I'm really talking in the context of the afternoon slate only, again, which is only four games, I think Kareem Hunt is certainly in play. And by the way, I want to mention something from a previous game. It's really not a big deal, but that Texans game that we talked about, I think it's worth mentioning Damian Pierce.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I haven't played Damian Pierce all year. I don't plan on playing him this week or next week or any week. But I do want to mention that Devin Singletary at 4,400
Starting point is 00:35:56 did get half the touches before the game before their buy-in. Mike, let me just ask you, we already kind of know what running backs we want to play and we know kind of
Starting point is 00:36:03 how cheap we want to go, but would you even consider if you're stacking receivers and you got this big, like Lamar Jackson stack, for example, you're paying a lot of money. Would you consider like going to Devin Singletary because you think maybe he'll split touches again, or is that just way too speculative? I think it's a little too speculative personally. You know, if we don't get a favorable situation in Seattle and you're not comfortable playing Kareem Hunt and you want to go that route, I think it's OK. But I think you're more likely to get a more favorable situation in Seattle and maybe even with the Rams again.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah. Interesting. You note the Rams is Darrell Henderson in the conversation for you at all? He snuck in the player pool. That's why I just saw the name. He's right around the Kareem Hunt in terms of exposure when I run 50-plus lineups, yeah. Yeah, and Darrell Henderson, it's Darrell, right? Or is it Darrell Henderson? I think it's Darrell, but I honestly i don't uh admittedly i a
Starting point is 00:37:07 lot of times i don't watch football games with the audio on unless it's a primetime game yeah fair enough well either way one thing i do know is that he's 4800 so um yeah that's it he's certainly an interesting piece obviously there's still maybe a rotation in that rams backfield but uh certainly henderson got the line share last week. Okay, let's go to a much more interesting game than Brown Seahawks. We've got three games to go before we get to our cheat sheets and Mike's top three at each position.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Mike, it's your Chiefs. Minus seven. This line's gone down. I think it was minus eight yesterday. They're minus seven at the Broncos. A nice, healthy 47-point total. I don't think the weather is going to be an issue in Denver, which certainly helps. We always have the question when it comes to Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:37:45 You always end up like, it's funny because I always find a justification not to play Mahomes and Kelsey because it's too expensive. And you're always on the other side, and it usually pays off for you like it did last week. And I imagine, Mike, that's why you almost won all those FanDuel tournaments last week, even though you had Cooper Cup in your lineup, because you had Mahomes stacked to Kelsey. So my question for you is, are you running it back this week? Possibly. I actually
Starting point is 00:38:10 think the weather does have a little impact here, though. It's not going to snow during the game, it looks like. It's going to be morning snow showers. But the high that day is 28 degrees. With a little north winds, you know, it's going to feel cold. It's going to it's going to be the first real cold weather game of the NFL season this year. It's very possible with what we're looking at that all the snow gets pushed back. It's going to snow all day Saturday morning on Sunday. If that's delayed at all and we do see snow closer to game time, just the cold is going to be an issue. So that is going to have some impact.
Starting point is 00:38:49 When you're talking altitude and cold for the first time, it's not going to be comfortable. And that's why you've seen the spread shrink. It was 8.5, touched 9 for a brief second, down to 7. It wouldn't shock me if we saw a 6 and a half if the snow was really going to be an issue and we're not going to know that until you know at least 24 hours from now as far as exact timing on it having said that Patrick Mahomes is still very good at football Travis Kelsey is very good at football Isaiah Pacheco is cash game playable tournament playable I have no interest in anything on the Denver side.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah, I don't either. Javante Williams is certainly looking good, but I have no interest in Javante there. Even though he's only 5,200, maybe again in the afternoon slate, maybe it's something to consider. But honestly, even on the afternoon slate, I don't think I'm getting there with him.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Rasheed Rice is 5K. I think that would be the only receiver outside of Travis Kelsey, who's actually a receiver too. I think that would be the only receiver outside of Travis Kelsey, who's actually a receiver too. I'd consider Rasheed Rice. I do think he has some boom potential, but I assume Mike, if you end up getting to a Broncos or I should say a Kansas City stack, is it just going to be Mahomes to Kelsey and you're out? Yeah, Mahomes to Kelsey and I'm out or just there's a small chance it's Mahomes to Pacheco.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I'm just kind of still betting on the team, but I really don't think this is a slate to do that. Yeah, I'll say this. The Denver pass defense is bad and they're down Kareem Jackson thanks to his two game suspension. It was four reduced to two, but the rush defense is pretty bad too. Now their defense as a whole has been a little bit better because they were really injured in the beginning of the year. They've gotten a couple of pieces back, but I think pacheco is in line for some receptions and so and a lot of
Starting point is 00:40:28 rushing work especially in this cold weather environment so he's a guy i'm definitely probably probably locking into my cash games and i'll play a little bit of him in tournaments too so probably mike i'm i'm anticipating that part of the reason that you're not like fully in on the home stacks like you normally are is because these next two games these are the last two games are extremely interesting uh Ravens at Cardinals will start there and then we'll go to Bengals at 49ers um the reason I think the Ravens is really interesting is because you've got that like what feels like it's going to be sort of a track meet in Arizona with Lamar Jackson and all of his players I think all of the Ravens are in play Gus Edwards certainly in play Lamar to in Arizona with Lamar Jackson and all of his players. I think all of
Starting point is 00:41:05 the Ravens are in play. Gus Edwards certainly in play. Lamar to Zay Flowers, Lamar to Mark Andrews, double stack Lamar to both of those guys. I think it's all in play here. He's going to be a popular QB on the slate. Totally get it. The run back options for Arizona. I mean, Marquise Brown has boom potential, also bust potential. Outside of him, not really interested in anybody, not playing Amari DiMarcato. Are you interested in a Lamar stack at all? I don't mind it. You know, I really don't mind it because I think it is a scenario
Starting point is 00:41:33 where there could be just enough resistance that they are pushed to score 30-plus points. Lamar does a lot of it himself. So I really – you know, we'll see when we get to some of the cheat sheet stuff. It's possible that I actually give up all my Mahomes exposure that I wanted. I say all of it, basically one lineup in favor of a Lamar Jackson lineup. So yes, I like him. I do think they can push.
Starting point is 00:41:58 The number one bring back for me is still going to be the cheap tight end McBride, 2,800. That's going to be the cheap tight end mcbride uh 2800 of course that's going to be my uh number one bring back i will mention it is a slight revenge game for marquise brown uh potentially they feature him a little bit once again with marquise brown though i will say that i think the preferred route to a target him is through a longest reception market. He typically is very good for having a longest reception market. So that's where I would target him. I think they do look for him on a deep ball a time or two, but I don't think I'm going to play him in DFS. I think it would be a scenario where I would just Ravens onslaught,
Starting point is 00:42:40 bet on them scoring 30 to 40 points and having some of these other games flop a little bit. I think that's the winning scenario here. Yeah, I had Marquise Brown over 53 and a half receiving yards last week. He ended up on 49. He's just been so inefficient. And that's mostly Josh Dobbs. Like he just hasn't been super on target. When you say onslaught, let's explain that for everybody. Are you saying Lamar with basically two players with Lamar?
Starting point is 00:43:03 Yeah, so I do it with Kansas City a bit sometimes, too. What actually I like to do is quarterback, running back, top pass catcher. So for Kansas City side, it's always going to be Mahomes, Pacheco, and Travis Kelsey. And the games that they score 30-some points, you're generally accounting for a lot of the offensive scoring, if not all of it. I think you could get away with doing that here in this particular game. So Lamar, you know, as far as pass catcher, it can be, you know, you have to make the decision between Andrews and Zay. I would lean Zay if I had to though.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Okay. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. And by the way, I'm going to ask an afternoon slate question to you let's say i do lamar to zay for example are you okay and again afternoon slate it's only four games are you okay with a mcbride and a marquise brown run back in that case yeah when it's a much smaller slate i think you can definitely get away with it um and on the bigger slate i i you know i you
Starting point is 00:44:01 can definitely still get away with it on a bigger slate. In theory, it's better on the bigger slate because it'll be way less owned. But I think there are better options. Okay. Speaking of better options, let's go to a very, very interesting game. The Bengals are plus four, visiting the San Francisco 49ers, 43.5 point total. Of course, the Niners coming off that loss looking to rebound, but they don't have their starting quarterback because Brock Purdy is in concussion protocol. And the way these concussion protocols work, usually when you enter in the same week,
Starting point is 00:44:30 you don't play in that same week. So it looks like Sam Darnold at 4,300 on DraftKings. Am I reading that correctly? I think I am. Sam Darnold, 4,300 on DraftKings. Listen, the Bengals have been pretty good against the pass, but Sam Darnold at 4,300, that's hard to resist, right, Mike? It is hard to resist. I don't think there's a massive gap between Brock Purdy and Sam Darnold. I would argue Sam Darnold could potentially be better if he had this role full-time. So I like that this is a system QB, really,
Starting point is 00:45:01 and I like the fact the game's at home. You know, San Francisco struggled the last two weeks, but some of that can be explained, right? So they had the first game at Cleveland. It's an early start road game with a lot of weather. And then the second one, it's a prime time spot stepping into Minnesota with a team that plays with an abnormally high blitzing rate with a young quarterback and obviously all the injuries, right? Williams out on the offensive line. CMC maybe limited, somewhat limited in that spot. No Debo Samuel.
Starting point is 00:45:30 It was just kind of the perfect storm. So returning home for them, I think this is a great spot to back Darnold and stack him. As far as Brock Purdy playing in this game, I don't think it happens. I think one thing that's really important to call out here, San Francisco is on their bye next week. Considering the home game and everything,
Starting point is 00:45:51 it's been incredibly unlikely to see someone go through concussion protocol and actually make it to the game on Sunday. So I don't think it happens. I think it would be kind of foolish for them personally. So I expect the Sam Darnold show, and I will be playing him at 4,300. All right. So I have a couple of follow-ups, but let me just get the Bengals out of the way. A, do you like Jamar Chase? I certainly do at 8,100. And B, now that Mixon is down to 5,800, I haven't played him all year. I'm not playing him this week either, but at 5,800, does he start to make a little bit of sense to you? Any other Bengals
Starting point is 00:46:22 that you're interested in and And comment on those two. Jamar Chase, yes, absolutely. One of my favorite plays of the week. Joe Mixon is viable. He is right in that same range for me as Kareem Hunt, Aaron Jones, DeAndre Swift. Guys that make the player pool, not going to be in my top five lineups, the five that I actually end up playing. If I were playing 50 plus i would start to get uh exposure to them in the form of you know 10 percent uh kind of
Starting point is 00:46:52 exposure so playable if you like them not for me uh love jamar chase though the bangles in general have been extremely successful coming off of a buy uh that's what they're coming off of. Jamar Chase, we have seen extreme target share for him. We obviously remember the three touchdown 19 target game where he scored 55 fantasy points. I don't think we see that again, but the price point really hasn't exploded. He's just 8,100 still. The volume that he's getting,
Starting point is 00:47:21 he should be much closer to Tyree Kill and Cooper Cup despite the matchup. I think this matchup is actually one where he's likely to see that target volume again. Gotcha. OK, so give me two variations of a Sam Darnold stack before we get to your top three at each position. For me, it'll be Darnold to Christian McCaffrey and then it'll be Darnold to Brandon Ayuk. I like Ayuk. The price point's high at 7K. I don't think a lot be Darnold to Brandon Ayuk. I like Ayuk. The price point's high at 7K. I don't think a lot of people are going to get to him. We don't know what kind of chemistry happens there.
Starting point is 00:47:51 So it's likely where I'm likely to play him, though, is going to be Darnold to McCaffrey and then just Darnold without a sack, just taking advantage of a $4,300 quarterback and allowing me to build the lineup the rest of the way that I want to. That's funny. You mentioned that. I wish I could remember which quarterback I did that with a few weeks ago. I basically just played the value of the quarterback and I got out and it really worked out for me,
Starting point is 00:48:16 even though that quarterback didn't even have that big of a game. It might've been Gardner Minshew's first game, maybe the first game he played and they set the pricing before Anthony Richardson was ruled out and Minshew didn't even have a first game, maybe the first game he played, and they set the pricing before Anthony Richardson was ruled out. And Minshew didn't even have a good game. But because of what it allowed my lineup to do, the tournament lineup really cashed. Gardner Minshew had just had a decent game, but really would have gone to the moon there.
Starting point is 00:48:36 So I think people forget that, Mike, sometimes. That's a really good call-out there. All right, speaking of good call-outs, we've got to do your top three at each position. So let's start at the quarterback position. Some familiar names here, at least from, if you listen to this show, the last, what, 45 minutes, this should not be a surprise.
Starting point is 00:48:54 But I'm curious if you swap out your third one here. Give me your QBs. Yeah, so QBs, it's going to be Dak Prescott, Sam Darnold, Patrick Mahomes for now, but there's a little asterisk. It could be Lamar Jackson. It's going to be one of those two. But really Prescott and Darnold will be the majority, and then my final lineup will be either Mahomes or Lamar.
Starting point is 00:49:16 For running backs, it's Tony Pollard, Alvin Kamara, and Brees Hall. It could end up being more Isaiah Pacheco, definitely right there in that range, but love Alvin Kamara, love Tony Pollard for sure. At wide receiver, I listed Tyree Kill first. I am swapping that to Cooper Cup. He's going to be my top guy in this week, just based on all the ownership I'm seeing now. I'm expecting single-digit ownership on Cooper Cup, and I am willing to partake in that for sure. Number two, Jamar Chase. Love the volume. Love the time off. I think this is a great spot to back them. Whether or not the Bengals win or even cover the spread, I think we're seeing double-digit targets again for sure for Jamar Chase. And then Michael Gallup's the guy I listed.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I love the target volume. I love the price point. I love the matchup. I love the stackability. 3,600, Michael Gallup is someone I'm going to have heavily featured. Tight end, Jake Ferguson, stacking with Dak Prescott. Again, you never see me on the Cowboys. I'm on the Cowboys this week. I like their offenses a lot. Evan Ingram was the next tight end I listed, and the reason for that is I don't think enough people are going to play him.
Starting point is 00:50:25 At 4,500, I think he could see double-digit targets in a game that is, frankly, ugly. And Trevor Lawrence is going to need a little safety valve. And then Trey McBride, 2,800. Can they push at all? We'll see. I think he's going to have the volume. I think there are scenarios where he gets there against Baltimore. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:44 So let's go to my cheat sheet. So I have, this is basically a tie, but I'm going to go with what, what, what you see on the screen here, Lamar Jackson, 8,100 to Zay Flowers, 5,600. But I was talking to Mike pre-show. Another one that I really like is, is what we just talked about Christian McCaffrey and Sam Darnold. So again, that's not your typical stack, right? Because because it's not with the receiver but we know who Christian McCaffrey really is you know he's a receiver and a running back at the same time so I like both of those stacks those are the stacks I'm going to be mostly all in on my value play is Demario Douglas at 3300 honestly I could have put Trey McBride there too so like don't you know don't be married to this chart there's a couple and obviously Mike has some too Demario douglas trey mcbride probably a tie there going to be playing a little bit of both of those
Starting point is 00:51:29 my chalk play is going to be alvin kamara for all the reasons we talked about he's not even 8k yet and that's uh the price mike would put on him certainly the price i'd put on him right here and right now my contrarian play davante smith i just think people are frustrated frustrated with davante smith and just for the same reason, you know, I played Saquon Barkley last week. And by the way, that did not work out for me. I'm targeting the Washington defense and I'm going to target them with somebody that nobody's going to want to play. Everybody's going to want to play A.J. Brown. Makes a ton of sense. A.J. Brown likely has a better game, but Devante Smith could have one of those 150 yard gains and a touchdown
Starting point is 00:52:01 or two because it's the Washington defense. So that's my contrarian play. It could crash and burn, but that's what contrarian plays are for. My fade, Travis Etienne. I'm fading the Jacksonville Jaguars in general in the betting market. All things Jacksonville. Christian Kirk, no. Travis Etienne, no. Trevor Lawrence, no. Fade the Jags for me, at least. Mike, your cheat sheet. Dak Prescott. I'm in on the Cowboys this week so Dak Prescott to Jake Ferguson you can make it Gallop if you want you can make it CeeDee Lamb or Tony Pollard if you want pick your favorite kind of like them all but for me it's going to be tight end Jake Ferguson I think this Rams team is not very good covering tight ends so that's where I'm going to be my value play will also be a Dallas Cowboy Michael Gallop 3400 simply too cheap for the volume, the matchup.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Again, a big theme here. I want these guys in a dome, in a controlled environment. The later we get into the season, the more that becomes important to me. That's where we're going to play Michael Gallup. The chalk play, Brees Hall, 5,900. The volume is too good. The price point is too good. This could be Isaiah Pacheco if you want to go that route.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I'm going to go Brees Hall to start. Contrarian, Cooper Cup. Might feel a little weird to see this. I am at this moment projecting single-digit ownership on Cooper Cup. It fits naturally with my bring back or with my stack in the Dallas Cowboys. I think it's a massive bounce back week for him after one of his worst games really in the last year and a half. And then my fade, Kendrick Bourne, 4,700. It's weird to see a fade at 4,700. It's not taking a massive stance. I think it is taking a little stance though, just considering the ownership level that we've seen with him. I think he's been extremely popular. And when I say I'm fading him, I'm fading him in cash games. I'm fading him across the board. I don't necessarily like New England against Miami here. I think this is a good spot for Miami's defense to kind of get right. fading them in cash games i'm fading them across the board uh i don't necessarily like new england
Starting point is 00:53:45 against miami here i think this is a good spot for miami's defense to kind of get right uh at home so i'm fading kendrick born here all right i like that and before we get out of here just a couple quick questions it's funny uh just one more thing is the name of this tag so i'm going to read just one more things question question as we try to get out of here uh he asked about george kittle like knowing that you're considering or not considering, you're playing Sam Darnold. And he mentions like Bengals have a pass rush and that Darnold and Kittle are boys.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Apparently, that's news to me. And, you know, typically when a QB is kind of thrust back in there, they're going to lean on those short area targets to the big targets in the middle of the field like George Kittle. I'm not going to be on George Kittle at at 5400 but does that make sense to you somebody you'd consider is considering you're you're playing a lot of sam donald it makes a little sense uh i think you can get there if you want to i i'm electing to to stack a different direction so the thing that you always need to be careful with uh with kittle The correlation to the offensive line.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Now you're bringing in a backup quarterback. Trent Williams is critical here. If Trent Williams plays, then yes, fire away. If not, those are the situations where Kittle gets called on a little bit more in his blocking assignments. With a quarterback change like that, i think that this is probably a situation where he would be called on a little more uh in that role um again it is very speculative we don't have massive sample sizes of that we have seen it though um just knowing with the past rational that i could
Starting point is 00:55:21 see him being used in a blocking assignment just a touch more than you would like at that price point on a full slate. So I'm not going to go that route. However, he's very talented, especially after the catch. So if you like him, definitely play him. I think he's going to be blocking more. And one last thing before we go. I don't think either of us are playing any Burrow stacks, but Burrow to chase and higgins with a cmc run back any interest there i don't mind it
Starting point is 00:55:50 uh the price point's low enough uh it's for me it's one of the situations where i'm just going to play jamar chase i think that that's that's where it's kind of all going i think against this particular matchup the scenario where burrow is needed is a little unlikely. There are scenarios where Jamar Chase is needed because he has 13 catches and does land in the end zone and does rack up the yards while Burrow maybe only has one touchdown pass in that touchdown. So I think Chase is far more of a necessity than Burrow is. Absolutely. Rick Johnson says, awesome show. Thanks for the content. That is our content.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And by the way, if you watch us on YouTube, not only do you get to ask questions like that or make comments like Rick Johnson just did, you get to see Mike's background. Remember what his primary games were? Rams, Cowboys, he likes that. Chiefs, Broncos, considering that. He's got that San Francisco helmet behind him too.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Mike, love everything behind you and love everything that you get on this show. I'll leave it there. Everybody enjoy the slate. There's a lot to talk about. Message me if you have any questions and we're going to see you on Tuesday for a recap.

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