Fantasy Football Today - Week 8 Recap: Bonanza! (10/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

What a week! We had a combined nine running backs and wide receivers who scored 30 or more PPR fantasy points! We give the biggest winner (2:15) and the biggest loser (3:30) of Week 8 as we discuss Justin Fields and the Colts passing game before getting into the big news (8:00) ... Let's talk about those MegaStuds (9:50)! Jalen Hurts, Tua Tagovailoa, Christian McCaffrey, D'Onta Foreman, A.J. Brown and more! Any sell high candidates here? ... Winners (22:00) including D.J. Moore and Greg Dulcich, losers (27:45) including Courtland Sutton, Diontae Johnson and Darrell Henderson, plus a recap of each game with our Fantasy thoughts (40:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. What's up, folks? Welcome to your Week 8 Re hell yeah week eight represent week eight what a great day of come on dave it was a great day it represented okay all right best best day of the fantasy season i believe oh it had to be It's great for a number of reasons. No doubt about it. So represent, yo. So here are the amount of 30 fantasy point PPR, 30 PPR fantasy point scores,

not including quarterbacks, just flex options in all eight weeks. Four, eight in week two, two, five, five, two, three, and nine so far with two games left. So we have the most 30-point scores outside of the quarterbacks. We also had four

30-point quarterbacks today. So a total of 13 30 fantasy point scores in PPR. Six points for passing touchdown. Leagues. Great week. And fingers crossed

no major injuries. Cooper Cup did hurt his ankle in the final minutes of the game. No idea the severity but all things things considered, pretty good week. And you know what, Heath? I have to apologize. If anybody just heard Heath, he's sick. He's fighting through it.

We do appreciate that, but I don't want to overstep here. I don't think you should go trick-or-treating on Monday. I don't even think you should give out candy to the neighborhood kids. I don't want you getting them sick. You have my permission. This is really tough for me. Take it off. What I'm going to do is I'm't want you getting them sick. You have my permission. This is really tough for me. Take it off. What I'm going to do is I'm just going to,

and I've heard people do this, I'm going to turn all the lights off outside, I'm going to lock the door, I'm going to turn all the inside lights off, and I'm going to sit in the dark and watch football and write the week nine previews and ignore anybody that knocks on the door. You have my blessing this year to be the Grinch.

And I just want to apologize to anybody who hears me sucking on a cough drop, sneezing or coughing, or sounds like I'm underwater. I'm trying. Yeah. And I appreciate it. Honestly,

uh, you know, you fight through it. So let's talk about the biggest winner, Dave Richard, who's the biggest winner of fantasy week eight, the biggest winner of fantasy week eight. I mean,

there, there's a bunch of studs and like mega studs that you could certainly look at, but I think we've got a top of studs and like mega studs that you could certainly look at, but I think we've got a top 12 quarterback in Justin Fields. He's the guy that was able to put up some good passing numbers and some touchdowns and run the football. It wasn't Daniel Jones. It wasn't Malik Willis.

It wasn't Sam Ellinger. It was Justin Fields. And he's given us at least 18 fantasy points each of the last four games and over 20 in each of the past two. And he did it against Dallas. And, you know, they've been so good defensively. They were giving up the fourth fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks, 12 to Brady, 17 to Burrow, 20 to Jalen Hurts, and 30 to Justin Fields, who is 48% rush, 49%

rostered, and he gets the Miami Dolphins and the Detroit Lions, and they played each. And then the schedule is incredible. So we hope you beat the waiver wire with Justin Fields. Lions, Falcons, Jets, Packers buy. After that, you're not going to want to use them against the Eagles and the

Bills, but if you're still playing and the fantasy championship is on the line in week 17 at Detroit. Woo. Yeah. So Justin Fields, hopefully you beat the waiver wire. Heath, who's the biggest loser of fantasy week eight? Oh, you're muted. You were coughing.

So you muted yourself. There we go. That's all right. That's going to happen a lot. I'm going to say the Colts pass catchers, not because Sam Ellinger was super bad. He did a few good things, but it looks pretty clear to me. They played from behind in most of this game. They did take a two-score lead at one point in the fourth quarter,

but they were extremely run heavy. It looked very much more like what they've done the past two seasons as opposed to what they were doing with Matt Ryan. And I just don't think if Michael Pittman is not going to earn a 32% target share and as well as Paris Campbell and Alec Pierce have played recently, I don't expect he will, that there's probably not going to be a guarantee of more than six or seven targets for anybody in this pass offense moving forward.

Well, hold on a sec. Didn't Pittman have like a 40% target share today? Nine targets, 23 pass attempts. He may have had a 40%. I'm not going to project that to continue, but he may have had a 40% target share today. No, of course not. No.

I tend to agree that it's going to be harder to feel great about Pittman, and certainly he's going to be a bus based on where we drafted him as long as Ellinger's the quarterback. Yeah, and I think people aren't going to be harder to feel great about Pittman. And certainly he's going to be a bus based on where we drafted him as long as Ellinger is the quarterback. Yeah. And I think people aren't going to be feeling great about Jonathan Taylor. We should talk about, we can talk about him here as a,

I don't know if he's a loser. He had 16 carries, but he only had one target. He had no catches. He, he got stuffed at the goal line. He also could have had a touchdown, but now he's got the carry.

But what do you think about Taylor? Early in that game? He had, I think a 28 yard run, which was his longest run in the game, and immediately hobbled over to the sideline and had to have his ankle taped again. I don't think Jonathan Taylor ever got healthy.

Yeah, and man, the running back position is so different now with ETN and Walker and Pierce. They didn't have great games, but they both scored. So, I... Is he even a must-start going forward, Jonathan Taylor? I ran the Twitter poll last week, and we all laughed about it,

because 40% of people said they'd rather have Travis Etienne than Jonathan Taylor the rest of the season. If I ran it right now, 90% of people would take Travis Etienne over Jonathan Taylor. But I think the Ellinger... I think the Ellinger change is bad for him. Do you,

I don't know how much of it was bad because of him being not at a hundred percent. Yeah. And he, I look, he had his opportunity to score later on in the game. And I, I don't think we're going to see any games where he's just running away for

175 yards and three touchdowns so he's probably not at 100 the offensive line isn't very good the quarterback is going to get dared to throw every single time he drops back he's not going to see a ton of targets they have the patriots next week in new england it's not going to be easy for them i i what was our bet last week didn't we make a bet on walker John Taylor? Yeah, but I changed it. I changed my mind when they made the quarterback change. My whole thing was in PPR. They were throwing Matt Ryan was throwing so much to his

running back, so much in general, so much short area stuff. It was good for Taylor, but he got one target today. And they don't have a good enough offensive line for them to ground and pound. I mean, I think this is an important thing to talk about. Let's do it right now.

Here's their schedule before their week 14 bye. Patriots, Raiders, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys. How many easy matchups did you hear in there for Jonathan Taylor? One. Maybe two. Maybe two of you count Pittsburgh. That looks like a low-scoring field goal fest if there ever would be one. Najee Harrison, Jonathan Taylor in the RB bus bowl in Week 12.

You may want to – I don't want to tell people to sell low on Jonathan Taylor. But if you can find a team, maybe a winning team, that's going to be 8-0 or 7-1, and they think they're getting the first-round pick, Jonathan Taylor, and you get some pretty good value for them on a team, maybe a winning team, that's going to be 8-0 or 7-1, and they think they're getting the first round pick, Jonathan Taylor, and you get some pretty good value for them on a deal, I think you want to consider it, given their schedule coming up.

But, you know, we don't want to be completely too negative on him here. He's still, what, a second-round caliber player? I don't know. Yeah. Because he easily could have had two touchdowns today but

all right and Ellinger of course I think if it was easy he would have done it all right well you can read all about it

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injury. Jamar Chase is not going to go on IR, so that's good and bad. I'm sure you'd like to stash him in an IR spot, but hopefully he won't be out that long. And then a few players left in return. Tyler Higbee. Can we get a snap count on Higbee? Because he had a terrible game. I know he left briefly.

Sure. He played quite a bit in the second half, I think. I don't think it was just that. I believe he did too. Yeah. Okay. He had a bad drop in the second half. Oh, he did. You're right. Oh, man. He had huge gain. He made up play. Should have had a huge gain minimum. Yeah. 40 of 56 snaps. I'm not

going to do the math, but it it's gonna be a little under 80 of the snaps uh matthew stafford left and came back adam thewin left and came back mark ingram left with an injury jonathan taylor left and came back jamal williams is the goal line back deandre swift is someone that might get lost in what was a pretty explosive week uh he caught a touchdown he had very little work and we'll talk about him when we get to that game. Geno Smith had a good game. He had 22 fantasy points. He played great. He could have had a

huge game. His receivers did not help him out. They had a lot of almost touchdowns in that game, but it was at least a good game for Geno. Chase Claypool threw a touchdown pass, and I learned, I don't know if you guys knew this, that he is left-handed. I did not know that about Chase Claypool threw a touchdown pass, and I learned, I don't know if you guys knew this, that he is left-handed. I did not know that about Chase Claypool.

Devontae Parker is one of the few players who did leave with an injury and did not come back, and Philadelphia defensive tackle Jordan Davis has a high ankle sprain. Michael Parsons had a ridiculous touchdown on a fumble recovery, as good as Justin Fields was. Don't leap over the guy who does recover the fumble. Silly.

And those are pretty much your main injuries. So, guys, let's talk about the mega studs. Better than mega duds, right? Here's the 30-point club. Six-point per passing touchdown, full PPR. There were 13 players who scored 30 fantasy points. Four of them were quarterbacks. Those quarterbacks were Jalen Hurts, 36.

Tua Tungavailoa, 34. Kyler and Fields, 30. Your scoring might be a little bit different, decimals and whatnot, but Tua, Hurts, Kyler, Fields. We already talked about Fields, Dave. Highlight someone else in that group. How about Tua Tungavailoa, who threw for 382 yards and three touchdowns?

I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that he was playing the Lions, and he had the middle of the field open all game long, but I think he threw the ball a lot better than he did in the previous week. So it makes me feel a little bit better about starting to and moving forward

when he's got, for example, the Bears in Chicago next week. It's going to be a tougher matchup for him than Detroit. The Browns after that shouldn't be too much tougher than Chicago. It might even be easier. And then a bye. And then after the bye, it's Houston. So I think you're looking at another top 12 quarterback.

I said it with Justin Fields. I certainly have to be encouraged by what Tua Tungabailoa did. Next three weeks, I think he's in that. Well, four weeks because there think he's in that. Well, four weeks because there's a bye in there. Three of the next four because you're not starting to do the bye. Top 12 quarterback. Would you guys rather have Tua or Kyler Murray,

both in the 30-point club, going forward, Tua or Kyler? I'll still take Kyler. I think I'll take Tua because I'm worried about that downside for Kyler. Not that Tua doesn't have downside either, but I think his matchups are going to be a little bit tougher. He's got three straight in division against Seattle, the Rams, and San Francisco in the next three weeks. Okay. Yeah.

All right. I'll leave it at that. I was going to ask you to follow up on Tua, but that's okay. We have plenty of time to talk about him. Let's talk about the running backs in the 30-point clove. Alvin Kamara, Christian McCaffrey. Kamara actually outscored McCaffrey. Kamara had

a huge game. Two receiving, one rushing. McCaffrey had the triple crown, rushing, receiving, and passing touchdown in this game, but they both scored over 40 points in PPR. Derek Henry has now five straight games with 132 or more total yards. It's incredible. Three straight games with 28 or more carries. Tony Pollard and Deontay Foreman,

Kamara, McCaffrey, Henry Pollard and Foreman. Heath, break down the running backs. Well, I think the most interesting one is Deontay Foreman because we don't know what's going to happen once Chuba Hubbard comes back. That was one of my believe it or nots for this week. Believe it or not, Deontay Foreman is a must-start running back even when Chuba Hubbard comes back. I think he is. I think he's the number two running back. I think he has to be for the first week because it's hard to believe the Panthers saw that performance

and want to go back to giving Chuba Hubbard the ball more than him. True. But they did give Brown and Blackshear some work. So they clearly believe in using multiple backs, and it sounds like Chuba's going to make his way back for the matchup against Cincinnati. And it'll be a tough matchup. I still like Cincinnati's run defense, but the way that Foreman's running right now,

fantasy managers should feel pretty good about it. It's really hard to quantify the hair bouncing on the shoulder pads. It's an edge that you really can't overcome. It makes you think of Lynch. First of all, with the Bengals next week, we've got to see if they get DJ Reader back. He's not playing this week. He hasn't played since week three.

He makes an enormous difference in their run defense. He was pretty good at the end of last year. He wasn't great, but he got so much work. I think people forget, they showed a graphic of the last however many 2,000-yard rushers in college, and Deontay Foreman and Chuba Hubbard were both on there. Wow. I think people forget before the Achilles injury, he had some really good pedigree.

He was a very good running back and he did run hard and good at times last year. And I mean, if you don't like him, he gets the Bengals. The great news is he gets the Falcons again in two weeks. Tony Pollard still does not have a game in his career with more than 14 carries.

That's as many as he had today, 14, but he only needed that to get 131 yards and three touchdowns. And we'll see what happens, Dave. I mean, does he have a more even split with Zeke? Does he take over? Who's the best running back in their backfield after they come off their bye in Week 9?

You know, Jerry Jones said after the game that he said, as Zeke goes, we go. Some kind of mess like that, which it's so hard to believe because you watch Pollard play. He's just way more explosive, certainly the much better back. And he proved that he can handle short yardage work as well as having breakaway runs. How do they get away from that?

Especially when Zeke isn't nearly as explosive. So I don't, if it's, you know, I'm not the coach and I don't know what they're looking at with Zeke or if it's an edict from Jerry Jones saying, you know, feed Zeke or if they want to try and keep Tony Pollard fresh for their playoff run. But I can't help but think that Tony Pollard has to find at least a dozen touches every single week. And if that,

if that's what's been happening lately, and if that continues to happen, you won't regret starting him in your fantasy leagues. Yeah, I mean, you can't trade him. Everybody knows. It's not even... Just hold him? Just hold Tony Pollard? I don't know.

You might be able to trade him. Would you want to? I mean, there's so much upside. Maybe he seeks the injury lingers, you know? It's his third year in a row with a knee injury yeah yeah right but they've got to buy for it to heal up a little bit more oh and they've got some important nfc matchups coming up after that but nothing with it they don't have what's their toughest opponent left on the schedules i think it's philadelphia but that's in week 16 adam so 16, Adam. So they might be able to do whatever they want

for the six games after the bye. And they could certainly put Pollard out there. Yes, I think Pollard is going to be someone you have to consider as a number two running back. Maybe a boom-bust number two, but somebody that you've got to consider putting in your line. As a flex, there's no question. Give them your flex spot.

I do think that there is at least a 20% or 30% chance that he's Kareem Hunt and that we are two weeks away from him. Why did Tony Pollard just have five touches? I don't know. Has that happened with him? He's had – Replace five with eight, and the answer is yes. Yeah. It's so annoying. everybody knows it except for Jerry Jones

he probably knows it too he knows it, he wants to get something out of Z we go as far as Z goes and that's going to be out of the first round of the playoffs because one of your best players is not getting enough touches maybe, but hold on a second Heath has always done a great job of explaining what the Cowboys pass offense

is and how they like to spread the ball around and use multiple players, and there isn't anybody who regularly gets double-digit targets. That was his argument against CeeDee Lamb. It's a smart thing that they're doing, and theoretically that's what they're doing at running back. They're going to use both the guys to try and keep them both fresh because they know they're going to need them both for the rest of the season. Switch the roles.

Let Pollard be Zeke and let Zeke get eight carries a game. I think the difference is, and there is something to this, there are backs who have proven the ability to handle 300 touches over a full season. There are backs who have not. And obviously Zeke's one of those who has, and Tony Pollard's one of those who's not. I think there's a little bit of risk at this point in the season to start

exposing Tony Pollard to 18 touches a week and just thinking, oh, he's fine, he can do it. Well, fine, then give him 15 touches a week and just, you know, fine, but he's better than Zeke. Everybody knows that, right? Can we at least agree on that? He's better than Zeke. And Zeke, to be honest with you, he has shown three years in a row

that he cannot withstand that workload. He played through it two years ago. Last year he missed time. No, he didn't miss time. withstand that workload. He played through it two years ago. Last year he missed time. No, he didn't miss time. No, last year he played through it. He keeps playing through it, but he plays hurt and he plays poorly. Anyway, let's go to the wide receivers. A.J. Brown, DeAndre Hopkins, Tyreek Hill, and Jalen Waddell,

all over 30 fantasy points. Heath Brown, Hopkins, Tyreek, and Waddell. Do you see any sell highs here or do you just see studs? I think I just see studs. I think Brown's a top five wide receiver. I think Hopkins, Hill's a top five wide receiver. Hopkins and Waddle are top 12 wide receivers. All right, let me follow up on Brown, though.

Brown's a top five wide receiver because, you know, he wasn't going into this game. I think he was something like 15th. No, I don't think he's a top five receiver, but I think he's a top 12-ish receiver. You could make the case for selling on A.J. Brown because he had the best game of his career against a Steelers defense that couldn't get any pressure on Jalen Hurts,

and Hurts was playing out of his mind. A couple of those touchdown throws to A.J. Brown were unreal throws. It said he's not going to do this again. This is the best game that A.J. Brown's going to have this year. So in theory, you could sell high on him. The other guy that I was going to bring up was Hopkins, who once upon a time I thought was a sell high without him even playing a game.

Now I'm wearing the clown suit on that one, but it's because he's getting crazy targets. His touchdown was unbelievable. That one-handed snare, love that. And so I brought it up today while we were watching the games about how dumb I felt for suggesting that you should

have traded him before he even came back. And I think it was RJ, our editor, who turned to me and he said, well, if people didn't sell high on him then, maybe they should sell high on him now because that schedule gets harder for Arizona because Kyler Murray isn't exactly the picture of a fantastic quarterback. And maybe you could turn DeAndre Hopkins into one of those elite wide receivers or better yet, one of those elite wide receivers or better yet, one of those elite running backs because he's been playing so dang well in two games. And I thought to myself that that's something that I could consider suggesting. And obviously if you can turn DeAndre Hopkins into a mega stud, you should, but I don't know

if that's something that people would even want to do because he's just getting so many targets and so many catches from game to game. Why isn't he just a mega stud? He's not just isn't it? Isn't he just a star? I mean, why he is he's absolutely a fantastic player and the target volume

I'm surprised by, but I'm not surprised by the production that he's putting up now. Maybe a little I am because of the receiving yards, especially today. 159 yards on 12 catches. That's good for him. Really good.

All right, we're going to take a break. We haven't even talked about DJ Moore. That's coming up. I mean, of course he's rallied. He's got to talk about DJ Moore, that penalty. Thank goodness we don't get points for stupidity. Amazing game, Carolina and Atlanta. We'll talk about DJ Moore, Kyle Pitts,

and some other winners when we come back on Fantasy Football today. Welcome back. A sick Heath Cummings is energized by two good games in a row from DJ Moore, who has actually started in 72% of leagues. He had 152 yards and a touchdown, including a 62-yard touchdown. He still had 90 yards before that, but the very end of regulation, 62-yard touchdown to tie the game and then gets a penalty for taking his helmet off. They missed the game-winning kick, the game-winning extra point, and they lost in overtime. But anyway, Heath, DJ Moore, Kyle Pitts, Rondale Moore, how many of them are you starting with confidence next week?

DJ's at Cincinnati. Pitts has the Chargers. Rondale Moore, Seattle. I think with this volume, I'm starting DJ Moore regardless until multiple bad games happen again. I was ready to come here and say his 5 for 90 was a very disappointing game because P.J. Walker missed him on two wide-open deep shots, and he dropped a 20 yard pass which I don't know if it was a drop or not it might have been tipped but he could have

had a monster day before that big play at the end of the game he just looks like a must start wide receiver again and I'd just like to say thank you PJ Walker and thank you DJ Moore because I had some games and I have a couple still I mean you talk about the big points that were scored. There were some battles out there, like 155 to 154. I know that you and I, Adam, in the Superflex League, went back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. Are you going to win? Oh, yeah. Oh, damn it.

It wasn't so much back and forth in the FFT League. It was just forth, forth, forth. For you, you beat me in that league too? Well, not yet. You have three guys left. I'm up by 105. What the hell? I love ruining your night. Kyle Pitts, very encouraged to see him get nine

targets, to see him be clearly ahead of Drake Glennon. I just wonder, we go back and forth and it stinks, but tight end stinks. Maybe we were a little too quick to just say, you can't start Kyle Pitts. Cause we're pushing all these guys up as streaming options that we're hoping they have a day like Kyle Pitts has now had a couple of.

So somewhat encouraged by him. I won't start him with confidence, but he'll probably be my top 12. And I think Dave, you can look up the snaps. It looked to me, from what I saw of the Arizona game, like they played more A.J. Green, because he didn't even play last week. And they played Rondale Moore more in the slot, where he belongs,

and less outside. Yeah, let's see that. And he performed very well. Now, that may just be that the only time they threw it to him was when he was in the slot. I'm not sure. He played in the slot 59.4% of his snaps. Excellent. That's great. So definitely used him in the right draft,

and Hopkins was outside a lot more than in the slot. 15.7% in the slot for Hopkins. So Moore played a ton in the slot. Dortch, for whatever it's worth, on his few snaps, he was in the slot almost exclusively. So that's a plus for Moore, but Moore's catch and run touchdown, there were broken tackles on the slot. Dortch, for whatever it's worth, on his few snaps, he was in the slot almost exclusively. So that's a plus for Moore, but Moore's catch-and-run touchdown, there were broken tackles

on that play. I mean, it was more like missed tackles. That's kind of what he's supposed to be, right? That's what he's supposed to generate. Breaking tackles is what he's supposed to be.

Bad defense helped him. It felt like the score was a little bit of an accident. So I'm not going to sit here and say that Rondell Moore just bounces right back into our hearts as a surefire number three fantasy wide receiver. I think I had him 32 this week.

I think he needs to live somewhere in that 28 to 36 range most weeks, depending on how many guys we have on the line. Okay, well, that's a number three receiver. I'm not going to fight you on that. I'm getting really frustrated with fantasy football now that I'm checking my scores. Thanks, Heath. I'm getting really frustrated with fantasy football now that I'm checking my scores. Thanks, Heath. I mean, come on. I played against

Deontay Foreman, Travis Etienne, and A.J. Brown in a league. Are you freaking kidding me? Come on. That's not fair. That's not fair. I don't know why my violin sounds like a horn, but there it is. You had Derrick Henry and

DeAndre Hopkins in the Super Flex League. Yeah. I knew I had Mark Andrews, Chris Godwin, Russell Wilson, and yeah, like, you gotta read the rest of my team in that stupid league. That's pathetic. Dave, your winners are DeAndre Foreman and Justin Fields, who we already talked about, and

Greg Dulcich. Dulcich, 51% roster, going into a bye. Would you rather have Dulcich or Pitts for the rest of the season? Dulcich at Dulcich 51% roster going into a buy. Would you rather have Dulcich or Pitts rest of season? Dulcich at 87 yards and an almost touchdown. I am tempted to say Dulcich over Pitts because I'm not sure how many more games Kyle Pitts is going to have with nine targets.

Although I'm excited with Pitts evolving into more than just a touchdown or bust tight end, which is what I was calling him this week. But I like Dulcich as somebody who is going to be a bigger part of this Denver offense. And their offense was tragic in the first half. And when they got Dulcich going in the third quarter, everything started to open up a little bit more for the Denver Broncos.

So I think he's going to be a big part of what they do moving forward. We know that Alberto, forget about it. He's, he's O U T out of the picture in Denver. Dulcich is going to be a full-time tight end. And I would expect him to live in that better than 10 PPR point range. And as a tight end who can get you yardage and touchdowns potentially every week, he's not going to be a guy that's going to leave you with two catches and 12 yards anymore. I think they like them. They drafted him for a reason. I like his matchup against Tennessee

when he comes back from the bye, along with Las Vegas, and then Carolina after that. Three great games in a row following the bye he's worth hanging on to. All right, Greg, we have a pretty good waiver wire setting up here.

Three of the players we talked about just now, Rondale Moore, Justin Fields, and Greg Dulcich are all rostered in about 50% of leagues. Rondell Moore, Justin Fields, and Greg Dulcich are all rostered in about 50% of leagues. Rondell Moore is 56%. So, you know, maybe we have a running back to pick up in Los Angeles for the Rams. Maybe. We'll talk

about that as we get into the losers. And we'll go to the losers right now. Dave, your losers are the Jets running backs, Cortland Sutton, and Deontay Johnson. We'll talk about the Rams running backs when we get to Heath's losers here. But Jets running backs, Cortland Sutton and Deontay Johnson. We'll talk about the Rams running backs when we get to Heath's losers here. But Jets running backs, Sutton and Deontay Johnson. I was so excited to see how this Jets run game would look.

And when I say excited, I mean nervously worried about those running backs without Brees Hall there. James Robinson played 21% of the snaps. Michael Carter played 55% of the snaps. Michael Carter played 55% of the snaps. Ty Johnson played 33% of the snaps. What is it? A three headed monster now in New York's backfield. And if that's going to be the case from game to game, dude, I don't know if you can trust any of these guys moving forward.

The offensive line wasn't good. These running backs weren't very good. They were taking on the Patriots and that run defense. You know, you knew, I should say that they were going to bounce back after Chicago. I do not feel good about any of these guys. They've got the bills next week. And then a buy after that, I think in redraft leagues, I wouldn't blame you if you dropped Robinson and Carter, but I wouldn't tell you that you could easily do it and you won't miss them the rest of the year, but I don't know what they're good for other than bench depth running back.

I wonder if their inability to run the ball successfully today is a good thing for Garrett Wilson. Of course. Oh yeah. We finally saw Zach Wilson throw the ball 40 plus times. He hates Elijah Moore's guts with a passion so elijah moore hates him too yeah uh maybe they'll cheer him somewhere there is coming after the game yeah it's funny um so maybe maybe there's a bright side man what a day for tyler conklin yeah tyler conklin spielman knew it i don't know how many of you watch our show sunday mornings on cbs sports hq but rick spielman, the former Vikings general manager, was on with us, and he gave a sleeper pick for fantasy.

He's starting to get into fantasy now. And he said Tyler Coughlin, and he drafted Tyler Coughlin. He knew what he was all about. And sure enough, Tyler Coughlin with a monster game. I don't think I'm so excited about Coughlin that I'm going to get him and hold on to him for the matchup against Buffalo and then the bye after that. But it was a good game for him.

Wilson is still such a work in progress as a quarterback that it's hard to feel much about his game. 20 of 41, 355 yards, two touchdowns, three interceptions. One of those interceptions was the most pathetic looking INT that you'll ever see. He's trying to throw the ball away. He's mastered that by the way, he's mastered running all over the place and then throwing the ball out of bounds, except on this play, when he threw it down the sideline and it was picked off.

He's he, I worry about what it means for Garrett Wilson moving forward as far as how many games he'll have with over a hundred yards. But if they can't run the ball, they are going to have to throw it more. And Wilson should be their target leader, at least among the wide receivers. Maybe not overall because Conklin had 10 targets on Sunday. Yeah, it was a good one for Conklin and for Garrett Wilson. And believe it or not, in fantasy for Zach Wilson, he scored 20 fantasy points. But yeah, he certainly struggled and made some just terrible plays.

Cortland Sutton. What the heck, man? Uh, one catch for 13 yards on four targets. That's now three straight games with 23 or fewer yards, three straight games with 5.3 or fewer PPR fantasy points. And his first five games,

you know, he was on pace for like 1500 yards almost. Yeah. So now they're going into their buy. And do you have any faith in Cortland Sutton to turn things around? No. He's another player that I, again, you don't have to drop these guys, but you might want to consider it because there's nothing you can do out of it.

Heath, Jerry Judy's the one in that offense right now. Believe it or not, Jerry Judy is the best receiver on the Broncos. I will believe it because he's moving much better than Corlin Sutton. He's getting more targets from Russ. Last week, we could dismiss it because it was Brett Rippon. This week, it's Russell Wilson, and Wilson started to play better in the second half. Sutton had

an ugly drop in the game. I feel a little bit better about Judy more so than Sutton moving forward, and I think Dulcich kind of fits into this conversation, too, because he can move better than Corlin Sutton can right now. He's going to start getting some more targets than Corlin Sutton could get. So no, I'm not saying that he's a spike cut

or a must drop or anything like that, but you will see Corlin Sutton drop certainly in some 10 teams. I think you just got our roles confused, Dave. I'm the one who trolls Adam. You should not be talking about dropping Corlin Sutton. We can't pile on. At least I traded him in one league. It's bad.

I think one of Wilson's problems, honestly, is that he just kept looking for Sutton over and over again. And what happened at the beginning of the game? First pass of the game was for Sutton. Bad throw. Second possession of the game, Sutton's covered. He throws an interception. And then after that, finally get some other guys involved here.

So deep ball to Hamler, lots of Judy, lots of Dulcich. And he started playing a little bit better. Judy gets open. Sutton will have some good games. Judy gets open and Dulcich gets open. I mean, Sutton will have some good games. He's not this bad. You know,

I'm not dropping him, but Tennessee, Las Vegas, out of the bye, those are great matchups. Hopefully, one of those two games can be good.

You might need a guy like Cortland Sutton. You might be happy that he's on waivers if somebody drops him. I'm not dropping him, but obviously, I don't have nearly

as much faith in him and I try to sit him now if I can. I'll definitely sit him next week during the bye. Cortland Sutton or Michael Pittman rest of season? Pittman and PPR.

I think I have more hope for Sutton. I'm not answering. I have no idea. Deontay Johnson. Adam, we don't either. Deontay Johnson, 47% started. He just can't do anything with his targets. They ever, I know it's so frustrating.

You drop him going into the buy. You could, he's another one that's on that list. But, but so here's the thing you think about what, why do you have these players on your team? You have Corlin son, because you've seen him at least have some big games and get you out to 15 plus PPR points with Russell Wilson at quarterback. We haven't seen squat from Deontay Johnson except for one game and was picket even the quarterback for that game. I think it was Trubisky or maybe it was the

game where they each played a half. I don't remember off the top of my head. I could look it up if you wanted me to. No, and now I'm kind of one. No. No. Not interested. He's been crap. He hasn't scored a touchdown. His yards per target is pathetic. It doesn't matter how many targets he gets. His big game was against Cleveland in week three. Eleven targets, eight catches, 84 yards. We would wish upon our

favorite stars or something like that it was all Trubisky in that game. Do you drop Deontay Johnson? I absolutely would consider it, and I would drop him before Cortland Sutton. I'm not planning on dropping either one of them. We can just hang on to these guys and enjoy the memories. Well, you might need them.

That's the thing. You get injuries. There's no wide receivers then. I'm sorry, but on my waiver wire this week, who was I picking up? I was too slow to pick up Darius Slayton. He was the best guy, you know, and I picked up Elijah Moore. I thought Elijah Moore, they're going to throw, you know.

I have a lot more leagues where I have more running backs than I can start than I do where I have more wide receivers that I can start. Same. Yeah. So there is a wide receiver problem. I would just say I don't know that the outleak is any more bleak currently for Cortland Sutton or Deontay Johnson than it was just two short weeks ago for

DJ Moore. Yeah, that's a good point. All right, Heath, let's go to your losers here. You already talked about the Colts pass catchers. Hold on a second. Wasn't there a quarterback change that helped DJ Moore? Yes, but none of us would have said that PJ Walker was going to be the thing

that saved dj more anybody would have been better than baker mayfield there isn't a quarterback change coming in denver unless russ gets hurt and there isn't a quarterback change coming in pittsburgh but i do think that they're like i find it more likely that russell wilson's going to be play better than he has because he's going to get healthier as the season goes on. And Kenny Pickett's going to improve because he's a rookie quarterback. And it's going to be great for Jerry Judy and George Pickett. Look, Sutton has had five good games. It may have been five in a row and now three bad ones in a row,

but he's had five good games. Well, you never would have even considered dropping him. So, yeah, I'm not dropping him again for the third time. I'm not saying you should drop him. I'm saying you could consider dropping him. I would not. I mean, in a 10 team league,

maybe, but maybe. Yeah. All right. Daryl Henderson and Irv Smith are losers for you. Heath and Henderson. Second fiddle to Ronnie Rivers today, and tough matchup anyway, but Henderson and Irv Smith

drop them? Definitely Irv Smith. Yes. Agreed. In fairness, the matchup did pay off. They got a tight end touchdown in that game. It just wasn't Irv Smith's. But it's just, like, it's four targets

almost every week now. And that's, we can do better than that. As bad as the tight end position is, we can do better than that. And I don't, I guess I'd probably drop Henderson before I would drop Sutton and Johnson. But again, that's more because I feel like my rosters have a lot more running backs on them than they do wide receivers. And I don't really know that anyone is going to be able to run the ball well for the Rams that's kind of how I feel about the Washington offense too like I just don't know if better than three and a half yards per carry is possible and then if he's going to share as well well no thank you yeah and Kyron Williams lurks too we don't know what his role will be are you guys picking

passing downs back are guys picking up... Passing downs back. Are you picking up Ronnie Rivers? I swiped him before the game in a few leagues because there was some reports on Twitter that he was leading off the running backs in their drills pregame. And I'm pretty disappointed in what I've got from him. But it was the 49ers.

I kind of expected him to... I barely started him. I didn't expect him to have a good game against San Francisco and Tampa Bay is next. What do you think? Are you going to leave him on waivers? Are you going to drop him? I mean, well, any running back that's going to be in line for 12 touches has to be rostered, but I agree with Heath. This is an ugly offense. The O-line actually blocked pretty well

all things considered today, but that's more for Stafford than it was for the run game. And once Kyron Williams gets back in the swing of things, I think he's going to be the one seeing targets and playing on third downs out of the backfield.

That's bad for Henderson. It's bad for Rivers. Rivers probably isn't going to be worth much of a waiver claim. Okay. We're going to take a break. When we come back, we will tell you about the almost touchdowns and then tell you about the games. Fantasy analysis on every game when we come back on Fantasy Football

today. All right, back. That was our last break. We're going to go through the games now. Almost touchdowns you need to know about. Evan Ingram dropped a touchdown, but he was being held. He drew a penalty. Greg Dolcich got tackled at about the one. Led to a Melvin Gordon score. Dak Prescott overthrew Michael Gallup in the end zone. It was wide

open. I don't know what happened there. Prescott did score a rushing touchdown on the next play. Tua had such a great game, but he could have had a slightly better game. Alec Ingold got a well, Trent Shurfield got tackled. I thought he was in. I thought so too. Yeah, they rolled him down just short. And then Alec Ingold got it well Trent Shurfield got tackled I thought he was in they wrote him down yeah they wrote him down just short and then Alec Ingold the fullback scored a rushing touchdown which helped nobody we had an almost touchdown from Terrace Marshall

of Carolina um Josh Reynolds almost had a deep touchdown Tyler Lockett dropped a touchdown he had two almost touchdowns and a real one one, right? And a real one. Geno Smith missed DK Metcalf downfield on what could have been a touchdown, maybe. At least it was a big play. Terry McLaurin had an incredible catch at the one-yard line in their comeback win. Michael Pittman had a touchdown overturned,

which led to a field goal. He was just short. And Marquise Goodwin had the ball knocked away from him in the end zone. All right, so those are your almost touchdowns. Let's go to the games. Let's start with London. All right, we've got a decent finish there.

Denver 21, Jacksonville 17. Heath, what do we got? I feel like we've covered the Broncos, except for maybe the running backs. Believe it or not, you need to hold both Latavius Murray and Melvin Gordon through the bye. No, I don't think you have to, but you should probably try. You should probably try to hang on. I think I like Latavius better.

I like that he was in the game to kill the clock late. I think, and he obviously had more carries than Melvin Gordon. Yeah, is that two weeks in a row he's had more carries than Melvin Gordon? He's – yeah, I believe it's two weeks in a row. No, I'm wrong. Two of the last three. Two of the last three. Okay.

Thank you. Two of the last three, but I do know that Gordon hasn't even had 60 total yards in a game since Latavius joined Denver. Yeah, and we covered Cortland Sutton because everyone covers Cortland Sutton these days. Thank you. Right? Covers like...

We've got a Geno Smith quote that I think you will enjoy, Adam. Okay. This game was for Ben McAdoo and Jerry Reese. They believed in me. No way. Oh, the revenge game! I tell you, they're the fourth best team in the NFC, and they're good.

They are a good, well-coached team. They're very creative offensively. They are fourth best team in the NFC, and they're good. They are a good, well-coached team. They're very creative offensively. They are not fourth best in the NFC. Oh, in the NFC overall? Eagles, Niners, Cowboys, Seahawks. Any disagreements there? I don't even think that's a hot take. I mean, they're five and three.

First of all, I thought you were talking about the Giants in the NFC East and not the Seahawks at all. I think Seattle's a playoff team. They're good. Their defense is good, and they find ways to win on offense. Eagles, Niners, Cowboys, Seahawks. You forgot the Vikings. I think they're better than that.

I don't really buy the Vikings. I buy the Vikings more than I buy the Seahawks. I was really impressed with the Seahawks today, and Geno is just having a terrific year. How about me in September calling the Giants being 6-2 going into the run? And you still think they're going to miss the playoffs? 100%. That's going to be hard, isn't it? They got to be in a pretty good position. Anyway, to what do you think about the Jaguars, guys? They got the Raiders,

so the Raiders are horrible defensively. What do we think about Trevor Lawrence? Do we need to have him? What do we think about Christian Kirk? Kirk's a number three wide receiver. Yeah. ETN's a must-start running back. Ingram's pretty close to a must-start tight end. Also, yeah. And you can't trust Lawrence.

Maybe next week is the buys. Man, I don't know how much... He's got to figure something out in the next half of a season. Are we going to go into next year thinking that he is a franchise quarterback without any evidence? Yes, they're not going to go and

spend... Well, let's put it this way. They're not going to spend any draft capital on a quarterback. They're not going to spend every draft capital on a quarterback. They're not going to take one with their first-round pick. He's going to get to start next year, yes. But do we have any reason to believe he's going to become good? If he keeps throwing bonehead interceptions inside the five like he did today, then there's going to be another quarterback. But he doesn't keep doing that.

He does a lot of good things. There's a lot to like about Trevor Lawrence. He's not there yet. He's not there yet. He's not there yet. Last year was a lost year for him. Yeah, I agree with that. But to Heath's point, quarterbacks like this,

when they're taking number one overall, they don't make these kinds of mistakes. They don't have this low of a completion percentage every single week. I think that Lawrence definitely has room to be a better quarterback than what we've seen, but we need to see it.

An easy matchup against Jacksonville should be exactly right. Look, this was a tough matchup. No one wanted to start them against. Absolutely. Yeah. So I think it's fair. I think it's fair to kind of get them to say that this wasn't the right

thing to do or the right thing to the right time to use them. I should say, no, I call them, I'm calling them the buy-low Broncos. If you like a player, you buy low after he plays the Broncos. They're just killers on defense. But I don't know if that necessarily means

that we can see Trevor Lawrence suddenly ascend just because he's done playing the Broncos. No, I'm not trading for him. I'm talking more Christian Kirk. Who would you rather start next week, Trevor Lawrence or Derek Kerr? In the same game. Right.

They're in the same game against each other. I probably would lean. I think I would lean toward Carr as of now. What's the analysis? What's the selling point on Trevor Lawrence? The matchup against the Raiders. It's all he's got because he doesn't look good otherwise. But what's the selling point on Derek Carr?

He doesn't look so good either. I don't know what happened to them today. That was a great day. What'd you say? He lost to a better quarterback. He lost to... Oh, God. That whole Raiders offense was a mess from the jump.

We're going to have a two-hour show here, guys. Minnesota 34, Arizona 26. Believe it or not, we talked Rondale Moore. Eno Benjamin's droppable even if James Conner doesn't come back next week. No, I don't believe it. He's put him on the list with everybody else. As a running back who I'm not in a rush to drop, I can't wait to drop him,

but he's not going to be someone who I feel good about starting against Seattle. And I sure as hell won't feel good about him starting against the Rams or the 49ers in the two games after Week 9. That's a good point. It's not a good schedule, but you can't lie. He's their starting running back. He had 13 touches um i don't think you drop him if connor comes back the thing that i'm kind of encouraged by is that he had seven targets so he they were playing from behind most of this game most of the season and yeah so if they're playing from behind, even when Connor comes back, I think he's got that role.

And so he might be four carries for 15 yards, but he might have four or five catches, and maybe that's 30 yards on a better week. And that's a bi-week replacement running back in PPR. Anything for the Vikings? Anything for the Vikings? We don't really ever talk about Kirk Cousins. Would you take him over Tom Brady at this point?

I feel a lot better about him than Brady right now. I think those two for me are probably matchup dependent each week. Okay, because let's see. It's three straight games with 20 or more, four out of five, five out of seven with 20 or more fantasy points. That's pretty good. Yep. Doesn't have these blow-up weeks yet, but you know. If I hadn't,

if I had given up on Brady, then I would definitely like Cousins more, but I'm still holding out hope. This was his highest scoring game of the year, and I, you know, he did have the rushing touchdown, but he also came off the bye, so I'm hoping, you know, he talked about it, Cousins talked about it, how he wasn't, you know, super

comfortable in the system yet. A few weeks ago, he said he's not where he was this time last year in a familiar system. So maybe he'll just continue to get comfortable. All right. Let's go to our next game here. Atlanta 37. Oh, the game of the week. Yeah.

Atlanta 37, Carolina 34. I wish I had made this call. Heath, what do you got on this one? That was a fantastic call. Tyler Algier is going to be fantasy relevant rest of season nope don't believe it no way you don't believe that i just won like caleb huntley had 16 carries in this game yeah he had a good game yeah there's room for cordial patterson to come back and see 15 touches a game,

and Tyler Algier's role did not really change. Yeah, but that doesn't make me want to use him in fantasy. That makes me want to have him as an insurance policy for Cordero Patterson. And not a good one, because Huntley could get in there and be the guy instead of Algier. They face the Chargers next week? Yep.

And then the Panthers. You think they can score against the Panthers? And then the Bears. And then the Bears. It's a great schedule, but I think Patterson comes right back and takes over. I don't think Algier or Huntley have played well enough in these last four games to earn

a significant share. Where are we at on DJ Moore rest of the season? At worst, a flex, if not a number two fantasy receiver. The correlation between quarterbacks cannot be denied. I think the other half of it is the correlation between no Christian McCaffrey. I think that's a big deal for him. That's fair.

I thought it was pretty clear that Christian McCaffrey was the best player on the team, and DJ Moore was the second best player on the team. Getting rid of Christian McCaffrey was the best player on the team. And DJ Moore was the second best player on the team. Getting rid of Christian McCaffrey and Robbie Anderson makes it to where no one, even Ben McAdoo can have any doubt who the best player on the team is. Yeah. His target share was about 3% higher last year without McCaffrey.

If you remove the games that McCaffrey left with injury, just the ones he either didn't play or played in full basically. And so it's much higher now, much bigger gap now, but it's a big deal. So, yeah, I mean, would you be looking at Cincinnati, Atlanta, whatever? He does have Denver at one point. He has some good, some bad matchups,

but forgetting about that, would you be looking to sell DJ Moore or just hold on to him? I'm pretty pot committed at this point. You will hold on to him. I think he's going to be tough to sell high on because everybody's going to remember how bad he was with Baker.

And a lot of fantasy managers are going to fear that they've already missed out on the two best games that DJ Moore is going to have. Yeah. Yeah, maybe it's actually a buy low based on perceived value. Heath, I think you're muted. I definitely was.

Yeah, is it that much different than Jerry Judy? Who would you rather have? I'd rather have DJ Moore. I'd rather have DJ Moore as well. Would you rather have DJ Moore or Brandon Cooks who, thanks to a 44-yard catch in the final minute, 100% DJ Moore as well. Would you rather have DJ Moore or Brandon cooks who thanks to a 44 yard catch in the final 100% DJ Moore. Yeah. Ask me on Tuesday at 4 0 5 PM.

Eastern. Is there a, is there a landing spot besides the Packers that would change your mind? I don't know. I don't know how every team in the league views their receivers and the teams that are trying to compete who need a, who need a who need a receiver like if he goes to the rams i'm not going to get more excited about him i i understand that

but look we didn't think the chiefs needed a receiver and then they go out and they acquire cadarious but i didn't i don't really like that move for cadarious tony this year either no i don't necessarily like it either but they still went out and made the move to get tony and you know what it might take one week for you to change your mind on that. You have to wait and see. The thing about Tony is Juju's on a one-year deal. Is MVS on a one-year deal? Oh, if it's a move for the future, it makes sense.

He's not. No, I said this, that Juju and McCall Hardman are in the project. That's what it was. They could get away from MVS after this year. It's just going to cost them some salary gap space to do it. All right, moving on here.

Dallas 49, Chicago 29. What if Cooks goes to Baltimore? Is that so bad? It'd be great. Dallas 49, Chicago 29. Believe it or not, Khalil Herbert is the best Bears running back rest of season. This feels a lot like the Cowboys offense. Because Herbert, to me, he's more explosive.

He's more fluid of a running back than David Montgomery, but they like David Montgomery. And even in a game where I think Herbert had the hotter hand, guess who led the way in snaps for Chicago? You already know the answer if I'm saying this. What do you think? Believe it or not, who's the better one rest of season? I'm going to say Montgomery because he's getting the work on third downs and inside the 10. I will too, but it's really, really close.

This is one where I could definitely change my answer next week. Yeah, but we need Matt Eberfuss to change his answer for it to really come into play. Now, here's the question. Do you try and trade? Do you overpay for Khalil Herbert, hoping that he eventually becomes the main guy in that run game? No.

I don't think so either. So what are we talking about here? I've got a lot of Khalil Herbert, but I think maybe, I don't know if you have to overpay, but. Well, most people who have Khalil Herbert... It matters to the Montgomery manager when they're deciding whether they're going to start or moving forward.

Sure, but the people who have Herbert already know that he's certainly one injury away, but also maybe one or two bad games by Montgomery away from being the guy that gets 60% of the snaps in Chicago. Montgomery did fumble today, and so did Herbert, but he was down. He almost fumbled. It was overturned.

I think Montgomery fumbled, right? Yeah, he fumbled. He did. That was the play that Parsons returned for a touchdown. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, look, I have two leagues where I have both of them. And as if I had to set my lineup right now for next week against Miami, I would put Montgomery in.

But I'm disappointed because obviously I want more Khalil Herbert. How about Mooney, man? 58% rostered, 70 yards, caught all five of his targets, and that's now five straight games with at least 50 yards, but still no touchdowns. Liked him as a number three receiver to just pluck off the waiver wire and put on your team. He's still there.

But the target share is a questionable thing, the fact that he's not getting eight, nine, ten targets per game. All right, so I guess we can talk about him on Tuesday. Prescott with a great game, 29 fantasy points. I don't know. Anything here for the Cowboys? Like, keep, drop, or hold Michael Gallup? Drop.

You can drop him. Hey, I'm happy that Schult Michael Gallup. Drop. You can drop him. Hey, I'm happy that Schultz had a good game. Yeah, me too. I was not sure what we were going to get out of him, but I think that Dak impacts Schultz. This is the second game in a row where, hey, he's had at least 20% of the target share.

Dak likes him. It was national tight end day for Dak still a week later. He just kept throwing his tight ends. 26% target share for Dalton Schultz. He might be slow, but if you're getting work, that's opportunity. That's what matters. Hopefully

it keeps up. All right, Heath. This was a shocker, even for Raiders haters. Saints 24, Raiders 0. And the Saints had the ball for almost 35 minutes. What's our believe it or not for this crap fest? I mean, I guess the believe it or not is, believe it or not, the Saints defense got healthy

and they're really good again. Did they get healthy? They got healthier. They still didn't have Lattimore. They go back. Right? No Lattimore.'t have Lattimore. They got a big Canebo back. Right. No Lattimore. Still no Lattimore.

I didn't watch enough of this game to know what the pass rush looked like for them. But I do know that Carr got sacked four times. Four times. So they clearly got some pressure on Carr. They picked off Carr. My hunch, I don't know. I didn't see enough of the game to really know. Yeah, can we do a different one? Can we do a more fantasy one?

More offense one? There's nobody. I mean, what are you going to do? Josh Jacobs fooled you? Juwan Johnson fooled you? Devonta Adams fooled you? Derek Carr fooled you? The one I wanted to do is, believe it or not,

that Andy Dalton's a better quarterback than Derek Carr, but you were going to get mad at me for that one, so I didn't do it. Wait, so I got one. Believe it or not, a player who has seven or fewer targets in four of his last five games cannot be considered a must-start wide receiver. Is that a lot there?

Yeah. It depends. If it's seven targets per game and it's gabe davis then we always consider him a must-start wide receiver i don't know i i love a lobby he's clearly a must-start but he does have seven or fewer targets in four of his last five games two of them he briefly left with an injury but i think it is worth pointing out that you know he's not getting fed when when dalton's been out that he's not getting fed. When Dalton's been their quarterback, he's not getting fed

the targets like he was with Winston, except for last week. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, he may be more of a low-end number two than a high-end number two. We viewed him as it this week. Okay. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bounce-back game coming. Yeah, I expect there will be.

Yeah, Ravens this week, Steelers week after that. All right, Taysom Hill with a decent game. About eight fantasy points. Bye, Chris Alave. Bye, Chris Alave. Okay, Miami 31, Detroit 27. Believe it or not, DeAndre Swift's going to be a bust, even if he stays healthy.

How much of this was Detroit just trying to ease him back in? I have no freaking idea. You know, he played 52% of the snaps. So right off the bat, that makes you think, okay, they're definitely not treating him with kid gloves. Played eight of 10 snaps on third and fourth down. He played half of their six snaps inside the 10. I think he got a little unlucky with the touchdowns,

and they didn't run the ball very much today. Well, I mean, he scored one touchdown on 10 touches. That's almost lucky. Sure. Yeah. Sure. And he's not the goal linebacker. He's not bad.

No matter what, he's not going to be the goal linebacker. It's very clear. It's Jamal Williams. At least the catch for a touchdown. Frame it again here, and let's answer the question. Believe it or not, DeAndre Swift's going to be a bust, even if he stays healthy. Based on the ADP, I think the answer is yes.

I'm going to say no. I think he's too talented. They've got to get him more touches. Swift or Taylor? My wife just said she's really into the new Taylor Swift album, for those of you curious. It's fantastic. Oh, all right.

I'm going to take Taylor. I think I'm going to take Taylor, too. And we're talking about Jonathan Taylor might not be a top 12 running back. Right, but Swift was drafted in the second round. I think he'll be like a like a late second round pick lower maybe lower but amongst running backs he'll be like i don't know how to describe slight bust slight bust the problem is that he's been passed by etn yep and all the other rookies yep probably damian pierce in most people's eyes. Yes. Yes.

So, yeah, that's tough. Yeah, it is. How many more 100-yard games is DeAndre Swift going to be able to put together without breaking a bunch of 40-plus-yard runs? And he does that. Not enough. And not on Sunday. Against the Dolphins. All right.

Well, he had five catches. We can call him a number two fantasy running back. I'm good with that. High end number two, though, because you could also call, like, you know, Deontay Forman a number two running back. Of course. But Swift is in a different team.

Not all number two running backs are created equally. All right. How about what do you guys think about Amonra St. Brown? Not a bad game by any stretch. Seven catches for 69 yards on 10 targets. We're going to excuse some of the

previous games because he barely played, but is he still the player we saw in the first two weeks of the season? St. Brown or Olave rest of the season? St. Brown. Fight! first two weeks of the season or a St. Brown or Olave rest of the season? Olave. Ooh, fight! I like the target volume for St. Brown. I think he's the number one receiver

in this offense. Like New Orleans, they're going to play from behind. Unlike New Orleans, there's a chance that somebody else comes back for the Saints that could put a cramp in the target volume for Chris Olave. Who plays first, Jamison Williams or Michael Thomas?

I don't know if either one of them are going to play, to be honest with you. Yeah. We might be waiting until 2023 for that. Real quick on this one. Let's assume Cooper Cup is healthy, not going to miss any games. Name the wide receivers you would take ahead of Tyreek Hill and PPR.

Cooper Cup, Justin Jefferson. Yeah. What about Hill over Jefferson? Can I get any love for that? You can make the case for that, sure. I don't care, but they're both amazing. Yes. All right, Philadelphia, and gosh, how many

underthrown deep balls is Tyreek Hogan going to catch this year? I'm sorry. I've got to bring up Hawkinson, guys. He only had four targets, but he turned it into 80 yards, so it's good and bad. He had a long catch and run with a broken tackle that we shouldn't expect every week. Yeah, I might drop

him. I have him and Schultz in a league, and I like Schultz better. Oh, you might be able to get something for that. Nobody trades in this league. You might be able to get a bench player in exchange. Maybe. I'll try. See if you can turn him into Cortland Sutton. There you go.

I can't do that, Dave. I have Cortland Sutton. All right. Philadelphia 35, Pittsburgh 13. Believe it or not, George Pickens is droppable. Another player that I don't want to drop, but I would. We're dropping a lot more players than we're adding this week.

I know. So that's actually kind of a good thing, I think. But I'm not going to feel good starting Pickens. Just like I'm not going to feel that good starting Deontay Johnson. They're both going into their bye. Can you really rely on either of these guys for consistent production? Three targets for Pickens. How strange.

No catches. Gross. Miles Sanders. I don't even know. He's a weird one. He's got a... Not an ideal role, but good enough. What do you think about Miles Sanders' rest of season?

Somewhere in between DeAndre Swift and Deontay Foreman. Okay. He's a number two running back. Closer to Foreman than Swift. Agreed. And Devontae... Who's more valuable, Devontae Smith or Miles Sanders? I think it's...

I think it's... I think I want to say Sanders because they're both going to be volatile. But at least with Sanders, he's the lead running back on an undefeated team that wants to run the football and has a very good offensive line. All right. Patriots 22, Jets 17.

They barely played their starters in the fourth quarter. This was a Heath game for Philadelphia because Gardner Minshew got in there. It was beautiful, too. Great completion to Zach Paschal. 22-17, Patriots over the Jets. Heath, you are muted. You are no longer muted. No, I was muted because I don't

have a good one. Believe it or not, Garrett Wilson is going to be a number three wide receiver rest of the season. No, I don't believe it. Maybe. How many games are Jets going to have where Wilson throws 41 passes? Can they run without Brees Holtz? I think they're going to throw a lot.

I mean, that's the thing. I called Garrett Wilson the most droppable player in fantasy. I changed my tune the second Brees Hall got hurt. It is all about Brees Hall. He was their best player by far, and they have to pass now.

They have to. Yeah, I'm going to buy it. He might have a lot of six-catch, 45-yard games. That's probably close to a number three receiver. I'd be like, 55. There's no reason to expect him to be that inefficient. He's really, really good.

It's about the quarterback. It's not the talent. He could be on almost any other team in the league, and I'd be more excited. Let me see. What's his roster? He's 74% rostered, 32% started, 115 yards on seven targets for Garrett Wilson today.

Garrett Wilson or George Pickens rest of season? Wilson doesn't have as many people to contend with for targets. So I suppose I would say Wilson to that. Wilson has two more games against the Bills, though. And a bye.

I don't know. Yeah, but the Steelers have some tough games. Not the Bills, though. The Bills are tougher for running backs and receivers, I guess. All right. Let's talk about Ramondre Stevenson. Is this guy better than Jonathan Taylor the rest of the season? He had seven catches.

He has 15 catches in his last two games. I think you can make the case in full PPR. I'd put him between Taylor and Swift. He's going to be very close to Jonathan Taylor because he's playing a lot. Harris seems to be

mostly an afterthought in the offense. They each had two snaps inside the 10. The Patriots had 21 third or fourth downs. Stevenson played on 17 of them. Do we worry about Ty Montgomery coming back and messing that up? I don't think we worry about it too much because Romandre Stevenson's done such a good job.

He's their best running back. Okay. Well, he is a superstar right now. He left and came back in this game too, by the way. I don't know if you mentioned that. No, I didn't. So now he's scored 19 and a half or more PPR points in four straight games and five out of six. It's another guy. I mean, it's just amazing.

The running backs were emerging. First and second year running backs were emerging right now. Tennessee 17, Houston nothing. Oh, no. Houston, what, 10? They got 10. Okay. I forgot a number there.

Late touchdown catch for Damian Pierce. Yeah. Yeah. After that, Brandon Cook's 44-yard catch with 41 seconds left gave him a good game. But what do we got from this one, Heath? Well, I was going to say, I mean, just stick with the theme. If Brandon Cook doesn't get traded, he's droppable. I think he's droppable.

He's the most droppable. Oh, no, no, he's not. I got to tell you, we've probably named six or seven players that I would drop before Corlin Sutton. Right, right. All right, so who's more droppable? Brandon Cooks, if he doesn't get traded or garrett wilson or george pickens pickens

i really like pickens i think i've kind of had it with brandon cooks i think i would drop cooks before pickens i'll tell you Pickens. I'll tell you who's droppable, man. Robert Woods. Yeah. 74% Robert Woods. It was so easy to get away from him with Willis under center, though. And obviously, Willis didn't play good enough to keep the job from Tannehill. Look at these numbers.

Woods is still droppable. Don't get it messed up. Look at these numbers for Malik Willis. 10 passes, 55 yards, 12 rushing. He accounted for 67 yards and an interception. And they won the game. Unbelievable.

Alright, next up is Washington 17, Indianapolis 16. Believe it or not, Antonio Gibson's a top 24 running back in PPR I think you can make the case for that he can be in that conversation of being like right at 24th because he's the one that's going to play a good amount when they're trailing we kind of thought that that would be the case but the fact remains that it was still a three-headed monster no running back for Washington played even 40%

of the snaps, but Gibson's been doing well the past few weeks. So if you had to give the nod to one commander's running back, it's Gibson anytime they're in a game where you think they're going to be trailing. And I kind of think that's going to be just about every single game for the commanders given their defense. Last week, they've now won three games in a row and he's had three three and seven catches i'm not sure there's enough touches for him to be a top 24 guy but he's definitely the best on the team right we'd rather have him than robinson oh for sure i think so as much as we want to root for robinson i think that gibson much as we want to root for Robinson,

I think that Gibson's probably going to be better. In PPR, here are their next few games. Minnesota, I can't help but think they're going to be trailing against the Vikings. At Philadelphia, can't help but think they're going to be trailing. Are you going to like them, though, against Philadelphia? I mean, it's one thing to be trailing. Who?

Robinson? Either one. Hell no. Either one. Gibson, probably more. They play Houston in week 11. That might be a Brian Robinson game. All right.

Atlanta the week after that. Terry McLaurin is revived. Cool story about him. He grew up going to Lucas Oil Stadium. He's an Indianapolis guy. Grew up going there, and I think he said, this is my stadium or something. This is my state.

Whatever. But he made that big catch to set up the win. On the other side of the ball, I think we've kind of covered it. Yeah, we've covered it. San Francisco 31, Rams 14. Believe it or not, Cooper Cup is the only Ram who is a must roster. Must roster? I don't believe it.

I do. Oh, Higby. I always forget Higby. Yeah, thanks, Dave. Yes. Not believe that. Higby. Robinson is cuttable more so than Sutton.

Might be more cuttable. No. Who do you cut first, Allen Robinson or Deontay Johnson? Robinson. Why? I've seen Johnson be good more recently. I've seen Allen Robinson get a touchdown. And another game, he actually had two end zone targets in this game.

One of them did not count. He drew a pass interference. But this is every single game. At some point, they're going to stop doing that because it doesn't work. I don't know. He drew a pass interference that set up a touchdown. But he does have an end zone target in every single game for what it's worth. And he has been good more recently than Deontay.

It's totally silly, and I don't know what good it does you to have those end zone targets if you're not going to catch them every other game or even every other game. I guess he's done that. I'm not sure who I would drop first between Johnson and Robinson. If there's one argument for Robinson. They both make me very frustrated. It's just the bye week.

He already had his bye, and Deontay's is coming up this upcoming week. Yeah, maybe that's the tiebreaker. Are we worried about Higby here? He's got now 22 yards combined in his last two games. Yeah. Lame. Yes. Did Van Jefferson play?

He did, I think. I do not think he recorded his statistics. McVay gave us a fool's view on him. What was his snap? Full outment of snaps. Regular snaps, he said. I'm looking up Van Jefferson right now. And he played 31 snaps.

That's enough to at least get a target. He didn't do that. He did not earn a target. He didn't do that. He did not earn a target. Seattle 27, Giants 13. Somehow Ronnie Rivers earned four. Believe it or not, Darius Slayton's going to be the best Giants wide receiver rest of season. I hate jumping around from Giants receiver to Giants receiver.

So does Daniel Jones. We should have ignored all of them, probably. It's probably the best move to ignore all of them. But I still like Wanda Robinson conceptually in the offense. Vegas knew that he was not going to catch a lot of passes today. It's three good games in his last four for Slayton. Three games with double-digit PPR fantasy points. Startable, number three-ish receiver games at worst.

It's fair to say that he's their number one receiver. Yeah, I think he is. But next week, well, they're on a bye. Hopefully they trade for someone. They could really use it. This is a fun fact from Adam Schefter. For every game that Taylor Heineke plays at least 60% of the snaps and the commanders win, he earns $125,000 bonus.

Holy cow, that's awesome. Good deal. On the Seahawks side, how about DK Metcalf playing? Playing very well. Yeah, it's incredible. 55 yards and a touchdown on 10 targets. These guys came through. I can't tell you how impressed I am with the Seahawks.

And Geno in particular. Terrific. Gino's really had three bad quarters since the 49ers game, and it was the first three quarters against Arizona. And I thought it was a little bit about them pressuring him, but it might have just been him being off because he really hasn't looked off the last two weeks. Okay. I don't really know what else to say. I mean, these guys are who they are.

You've got to keep starting Metcalf and Lockett, and his deep ball is just so good. Throwing the ball downfield, it's really impressive. He's been very accurate. He's been very good. Ken Walker almost had a dud of a game. Late touchdown run. Yeah. Last six minutes or so of the game.

It was a very good one, though. He's so good. And I a very good one, though. He's so good. And I'll say this last thing here. I've always liked the Seahawks from afar. I love the fans. I always liked Pete Carroll. And I still do, but it's pretty annoying to lose to him because

he's jumping up and down like he won the Super Bowl when they pick up a first down late in the game. It's like, all right, come on, man. Just take it easy. He hit a referee celebrating. It's like, come on. It's week eight. It's week eight.

You all act like you've been there before? A little bit. I'm sorry your team lost at it. No, I have no sour grapes. I'm fine with it. I'm happy with six and two. I couldn't stand Brett Favre back in the day because Brett Favre would throw a touchdown pass

at a 30-point game in week six. He'd put the one finger up and he'd run around the field like, oh, somebody please hug me, shower me with Gatorade. It's like, ah,

it wasn't really for me. All right, Heath probably can't stand my enthusiasm right now. He's too sick for it. So we will skedaddle here. We'll talk to you tomorrow with Beyond the Box score.

We'll recap what's already a 14-0 game in route to a 40-point game. Calling my shot. Bills and Packers and much more. We'll talk to you later. Thanks for watching, everybody. Have a good night.

Great job, Heat. Yeah, Heat. Way to go.