Fantasy Football Today - WRs Rounds 6-8! Jerry Jeudy, Courtland Sutton, 49ers WRs and More (07/09 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Bid on Draft-A-Thon items here! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tiltify.com/@cbs-sports/fft-draftathon-2025⁠ Join the Early Edge Crew at Yankee Stadium on Wednesday:  (https://www.gofevo.com/event/Earlyedge2), choose Section 234. We've still got some very exciting options at wide receiver as we get into Rounds 6-8 in CBS average draft position. Who are the best and worst values (3:05) in this range? Courtland Sutton is one of our favorites but Rome Odunze and Khalil Shakir make us a little nervous in Round 7. We also talk strategy including whether to prioritize target volume or quality of offense ... Round 6 WRs (20:30) include Jerry Jeudy, Sutton, DeVonta Smith, Zay Flowers and more. We talk about them all including how to value the rookie Tetairoa McMillan ... Round 7 WRs (46:30) include Chris Godwin, Chris Olave, Jaylen Waddle, Ricky Pearsall and more. Again, we dissect all of them and then we get into Round 8 (1:02:50) with Jakobi Meyers and Matthew Golden. There are a lot of players who are being drafted later that we prefer to these guys ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow FFT Express on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fan To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays at his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Hey, what's up everybody? Tuesday, July 8th and more wide receivers to talk about. It is after all wide receiver week.

Welcome to fantasy football today, everybody. We're looking at rounds six through eight in the current CBS PPR average draft position. And there are 16 wide receivers in this range. We've got Jerry Judy to kick it off. He was the number three wide receiver per game from weeks eight through 15. That was mostly Jameis Winston.

We got a guy like Chris Godwin. He's the first pick of round seven. He was the number three wide receiver per game just in general in PPR. We got Devante Smith in there. He's great without Dallas Goddard. We've got a rookie, Tedaroa McMillan. Cortland Sutton was the number

10 wide receiver per game in his last 10 games. We have a couple of guys who later in the year, their a dots went down, their targets and their production went up. They are football players. They are sons. They are Jameson Williams and Jordan Addison. A couple of guys who are kind of similar. I was right. Yeah, you were.

Good job. All right. Anyway, looking at rounds six, seven, eight. I'm just gonna tell everybody the 16 wide receivers real quick. Round six is Judy Devante-Sm Smith, Macmillan, Sutton, Jamison Williams, George Pickens, Zay Flowers. Round seven is Godwin, Addison, Olavi, Waddell,

Odunze, Pearsall, Shakir. Round eight, only two guys, Jacoby Myers and Matthew Golden. I guess technically we could throw Joanne Jennings and Calvin Ridley in there because they are just outside of that. They are criminally undervalued, close to pick 100. Joanne Jennings and Calvin Ridley, they are technically round nine picks right now in 12 team leagues, but they're close enough to round eight. Anyway, which wide receiver in this range has the best value, Jamie? If we're not including Jennings and Ridley,

for me it would be Sutton. You know, I think I'd mentioned this yesterday, like I don't see a huge difference in the profile for him versus Evans versus Metcalf versus McLaurin, like just they're all going to be somewhat touchdown dependent. They're all gonna hover around, you know, 11, 1200 yards. And I think they're going to be in the 80 plus catch range.

And so, you know, Sutton has proven himself now in two years with Sean Peyton, he was great last year with Bo Nicks, like you said, number 10 wide receiver. So as long as there's no holdout for him, which I think is still something to consider, then he should be in a much higher, uh, not much. He should be drafted sooner and he's in a tier, you know, above for where these guys are for me. First seven games of the season, Cortland Sutton was really bad.

He was on pace for 673 yards and guess what? Bo Nix was really bad. Bo Nix was on pace for 3000 passing yards and 12 touchdowns. Last 10 games of the season. I already told you, Cortland-Sutton was the number 10 wide receiver per game. I think Bo Nix is not going to do as well as he did there. He was on pace for 4,300 yards and 41 touchdowns.

So it won't be that good, but better Bo Nix equaled better Cortland-Sutton. Dave, who's the best value in this range? I agree that it's Sutton, just because I think he can outperform where people have been drafting him. Okay. Who's the worst value in this range, Dave? What's Shakir's ADP? Shakir is like the end of round seven. He is 84th.

I think you're kind of getting what you pay for with him. I don't see him being that much better than he was last year. Last year he was a low end number three receiver. That's how he finished. Keenan Allen had more PPR points per game than he did. It was by a 10th of a PPR point. He averaged around 12 per game, had a couple of big games. Everything else was kind of mediocre. I feel like you're drafting a middling number three wide receiver with Shakir. Jamie, worst value? I don't remember all the names. I'm sorry. Oh, that's okay. So it's you know, I'm not gonna read them all. All right, right. Here

we go. Judy Smith, McMillan, Sutton, Jamison, Pickens, Flowers, Godwin, Addison, Olavi, Waddle, Odunze, Pearsall, Shakir, Meyers, Golden. I have Odunze probably ranked a little too low, but he's the one that stands out to me too. Like he's got the opportunity to be fantastic, but he also struggled last year a lot and there's now two more mouths to feed in this offense even though you're taking away Kenan. So let's say one more mouth to feed in this offense. So as we said yesterday with DJ Moore, Odunze could be the best receiver for the Bears. He also could be the fourth best pass catcher for the Bears. So that's the one that kind of jumped out to me there. I think it's a pretty good range, you know, it doesn't seem like there's

anything really glaring there. Shakir is kind of boring, I guess, compared to most of the other players. So I get where you're coming from. how many receivers in this range can you make the case for as top 12 wide receiver? Godwin barring injury. Yeah. I mean, you can take injury into it if you want, but I don't think there's that many. I'd say three cases for cases for top 12. Three. Three guys. Yeah. Who do you have as your three? Judy, Sutton, and Godwin. And I don't even know. I guess I see it with Judy. Definitely see it with Sutton. If Godwin's right, you could see it with him. Yeah, I think everyone else, you'll need an injury to a teammate to like really see them like completely break out. Like Devontae Smith is the perfect example. Like when everybody's healthy in Philadelphia, Smith is so boomer bust.

But when one guy's gone, Goddard misses time, AJ Brown misses time. Woo. He's awesome. He's the number one receiver. Yep. He has averaged about 17 and a half PPR fantasy points in 16 games over the last three seasons with AJ Brown, but without Dallas Goddard. That is top 10 wide receiver. That's Devontae Smith. Whenever Goddard's not there, when AJ Brown's not there, he's equally awesome. He might

even be better than that. I throw one more name in there as a guy that I think I could see finishing top 12 without an injury. And that would be Jalen Waddle. You know, it just, it would just have to be, he's making a bunch of big plays. We didn't quite see him finish top 12 per game with two entire re-kill, but a couple of years ago it wasn't that far from it. So I think I don't, he's still a young, really good player, right? I don't think that it's was 2022. He was 10th per game and non PPR 14th per game and full PPR with 1356 yards, eight touchdowns

in 17 games. I mean, you think about a lot of the names on this list that you're, you're referencing here. It's, you know, number two receivers on what should be very good passing attacks, right? You know, so waddle Smith the Monty Smith Addison Jamison Williams, like there's a lot of guys here like again if there's an injury my gosh You know you could see huge potential for almost all of those guys But that's why they're being drafted as Rangers like they're still very good even in their current situation, you know, so

While Smith's numbers pop when there's no Brown or Goddard, he still prior to last year at least was a very productive fantasy option. I mean, Jordan Addison basically rolls out of bed and gets you almost double digit touchdowns in the first two years of his career. Jameson Williams finally exploded in year three and hoping for more in year four. So all these guys have such interesting profiles that there's also, maybe not all of them, but if there is an injury that does occur, you could see top 10 potential for those respective players

because of the offense that they play. And it's almost like you're getting the T Higgins discount with these guys. They're not as good as Higgins, but they're just on that type of level of, you know, high-end second player in a very productive passing time. And if you change the question from, Could these guys finish Top 12 to Could these guys finish Top 20? Dude, almost every single name that you just said, Jamie, you could make the case for finishing Top 20. That's the idea. We're

drafting these guys as high-end No. 3 wide receivers, but they could easily finish Top 20 finishing top 20. That's the idea. We're drafting these guys as high end number three wide receivers, but they could easily finish top 20 at the position. That's what you're hoping for. And if you can get a guy that can do that, you're, you're making out like a bandit. Well, I think we've kind of said this a ton this offseason, if not, you know, past years as well, like this is the, we're in the blob, you know, wide receiver 20 through 40, you know. Yeah, yeah. I think all these guys could be top 20 receivers, you know, it's not just the names I think that we talked about, like, you could see a situation where, you know, I mean, you know, Ridley and Jennings for sure, you know, it passed this group, but all of these players, you know, and some of them, I think, for depending on which rank

list you look at, you know, I know Sutton for me is basically a top 20 receiver. Judy, I think for Heath is a top 20 receiver. So we have some of these guys there. Heath made the case yesterday that he would rank Godwin ahead of Evans if everything's fine with his health. So there's a lot of upside already with these guys, depending again on who you ask. Well, I think it brings up a question, right?

If you're choosing between two wide receivers in this range, what's more important to you, target volume or quality of offense? And we did a show a few months ago where we looked at which players have really jumped out over the last few years as the best mid-round picks. And got a lot of guys on San Francisco and Detroit that have outperformed their ADP.

So I tend to target the better offenses here, even if I'm very concerned, I mean, I'm very concerned about Jameson Williams' target volume. You know, if they aren't throwing the ball a lot, if they don't have his miserable defense at the end of the year, he could be a hundred target guy, and he's to have to rely on a lot of big plays.

But I also kind of just trust that he's going to find a way to score fantasy points. Exactly like what you're saying with Amon Rasen Brown the first round, except this is much later in the draft. I do think that you should look at San Francisco wide receivers in this range. It just makes sense. We've seen Brandon and I, you could come out of this range before, I think twice. Chris Godwin came out of this range. Mike Evans has come out of this range and been a standout. Evans two years ago, Chris Godwin last year. So we didn't know that the Bucks offense is going to be as good as it was last season, but I don't know. How do you guys feel about that volume versus quality of offense? I think there's enough receivers here where you could say yes to both of those things.

And then once you exhaust that list of receivers that are in good offenses and can get north of seven targets per game, the knee jerk reaction is to lean toward the targets because it's hard to get fantasy points without them. And if, if you're in a good offense, but you're only getting, what did it say, Flowers average last year? 6.8 targets per game. It should be somebody even lower than that. Jameson, average 6.1 targets per game last year. You don't feel quite as good about that. So I'd probably lean toward targets before offense. You don't feel quite as good about that. So I'd probably lean toward targets before offense. For me, it's probably the way I started my draft and what I'm looking for for a player in this range.

So if I'm probably running back heavy or quarterback tight end, not necessarily a robust receiving core at this point, I'm probably going to look for someone that's going to be a little safer. In the case of the way I typically draft, this is probably like my fourth receiver. Worst case scenario, my third receiver. And so I'll probably be a little bit more take risk averse and take a chance on the most upside. So like at Jameson Williams, for example. So if he hits to the level that we started to see last year and maybe does have the breakout

potential like his coaching staff has been talking about, then you have a league winner versus let's say somebody like Isaiah Flowers who's going to give you some a little bit more steady production, but not necessarily the high end production because of the offense he plays in. So it's probably going to come down to the way that the board is playing. And I think it's, you know, this is probably for another show, but like when you start to sort of like group rounds together and looking at ADP and how it's all breaking apart, the running backs that are typically going right before this group, it's, you know, okay, is this your second running back

or does this where your flex position come into play? You know, again, if you sort of push quarterback and tight end, you know, a little further down. And so again, for me, like I'm looking at it probably like this is my fourth receiver in this range with a hero RB approach. And so which running backs versus these high end

potential receivers make more sense. So in that case, again, I'm probably looking for more upside. So I don't necessarily worry about the target potential versus to your phrase, Adam, who's gonna get the most fantasy points? Well, I think like the really tough one would be something like Jameson Williams versus Tetterella McMillan, right?

Where do you guys side on that one? Cause McMillan, I don't think it's unrealistic that he could have 40 more targets than Jamison Williams. I got Jamo way ahead of McMillan. It's contingent on McMillan looking like a rookie in training camp. If the reports are gaga for him, like they were for Jamison last year, then that gap's going to close and it'll be closer.

Yeah, I have them in a, in a similar range. So again, it's probably how I started my team in a vacuum. I probably would take McMillan, just with the opportunity for him to be the target leader on his offense and, you know, hopefully have one of these rookie seasons like we saw last year, you know, with, hard say he's going to be a neighbors or Thomas, but you know, the hope would be that he could produce in a similar type, a similar type of level. All right. Just some important context here. These are wide receivers, 25 through 40 in ADP. So Jamie's saying he's going to have, you know, four wide receivers by the time we get

through with this group, it probably extends a few more, right? It's Joann Jennings, Calvin Ridley, Cooper Kupp. These are all guys that at Brandon IU, Jayden Reed, they are not being selected in the first eight rounds of CBS ADP, but they're just after. So that's really about 45 wide receivers or so, and probably a good idea to have four of those. Okay, and we will

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We gotta stop that, Tony. Yeah, I won't ruin it for you. But I'm so proud of you. Thank you. It's really, really good. Woo. It only took him how many years? Yeah.

Less than that, like never. Six, I don't even know. All right, just quick news items. Passion Mahomes told Kay Adams that it won't be one person in the offense, basically said they're going to spread the ball around the receiver room is deep. We'll see. And Naim Hines is attempting a comeback. So good luck, that would be great.

He was a fantasy relevant pass catching running back back in the day and suffered some injuries and hope Hines gets back out there. All right. The wide receivers we want to talk about round six, starting with wide receiver 25 in our ADP, Jerry, Judy, Devante Smith, Ted, a row of Macmillan, Cortland, Sutton, Jameson Williams, George Pickens and Zay Flowers. That's a lot of guys.

That's seven wide receivers. Jerry, Judy, Devante Smith, Tedarowa, McMillan, Cortland, Sutton, Jamison Williams, George Pickens and Zay Flowers. What jumps out there guys? Dave, I'll throw it to you first with these round six receivers. A lot of players that could be the number one receiver on their teams that aren't necessarily potent, high-powered offenses. So we talked a little bit about, well, you'd obviously love to have a receiver that's going to get a lot of targets and play an awesome offense. Well, you're getting one of those things for sure. In the case of Judy, Sutton, probably McMillan, we'll see. And then the other ones, you're in great offenses, but you might not get the target

volume that you want. And that's Smith, that's Jamison, that's Pickens. And I guess Say Flowers qualifies there too. So where do you draw the line? I said that I would obviously go for target volume first. That's why Sutton is ranked at the top of the list for me, Judy right behind him. And it's just, it's just looking for receivers that are going to get a lot of work. In the case of Sutton, his quarterback is competent. The play caller is really good. You could make the argument that Denver's offense

could be a good offense this year. Ended up being a good offense last year. They made the playoffs. Did they make the playoffs or am I tripping? Denver? Yeah, they they lost the bills. Yes. Okay, fine. But but obviously, more warts on these guys than in the previous rounds. But that's why they're here. These are borderline number two, number three wide receivers.

All right, how about this exercise? Let's go have the exercise. Let's go have the exercise. Let's go through each round six round six player and just tell me, do you like this value? You like them in round six of a 12 team league, Jerry, Judy. Yes. Yes. Devante Smith.

Yes. Yeah. I like Judy better, but yeah. Tedaro McMillan. Yes. Yes. Corlyn Sutton. Yes.

Uh, Jameson Williams. Yes. Yeah. George Pickens. One round later. I'm good with Pickens in round six. Zay Flowers. One round later.

I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round seven. I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round eight. I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round nine. I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round nine. I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round nine. I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round nine. I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round nine. I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round nine. I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round nine. I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round nine. I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round nine. I'd prefer Zayens in round six. Zay Flowers. One round later.

I'd prefer Zay Flowers in round seven, but if I had to take him in round six, I mean, this is where he's going to go. So sure. And it is, you know, I guess you're right, Dave. If we separated it into guys who could get a lot of targets and guys who might, or probably won't, it would be Judy Sutton and maybe McMillan in the high target group and Devante Smith, Jamison Williams, George Pickens, Zay Flowers in the not so high. I don't want to say low target, but not so high target group. Does that sound right? Set the line at seven targets per game. Which is what? Judy might get eight targets per game. We saw that from them last year. So if they're north of seven targets per game, the other guys might be right behind them. Like

Pickens could be right at seven. It wouldn't shock me. Uh, but yeah, that's the line. All right. I'm going to give you a concern for everyone and you just tell me how much it bothers you. Jerry Judy. Yeah, sure. We love Joe Flacco. Right. Yeah, no, sorry. I was gonna give you want to give the concern. I was Yeah, you're the concern first. It's obviously the same. It's who's gonna be the quarterback, right? It could be Kenny Pickett could be Schudder, Sanders

deal and Gabriel, whatever. That's what's the concern level there. The quarterbacks, yeah. Yeah, how concerned are you though? I mean, it's an unknown, you know, you have Miles Garrett coming out and saying, Joe Flacco gives them the best chance to win. How much is that gonna, you know,

matter to Kevin Stefanski and the coaching staff there that they're gonna listen to their veterans and or do they wanna, you know, at some point start to develop one of these younger quarterbacks to see what they have. So if they're winning and Flacco is the starter, I'm sure he will stay under center. If they start to lose, then they make a decision. And who knows how much that impacts to you.

I think if you were to say right now, which I would guess is what Keith is sort of factoring in that if you were to say Joe Flacco is starting 10 plus games, 13 plus games, you know, the entire season, the upside for Jerry Judy, as we saw last year, it could be top 10. So you know, it comes down to your, again, concern level over how many games, arguably their best quarterback and listen, Sanders may be better, you know, or Dylan Gabriel may be better. I don't think so. But it might be better or Kenny Pickett might be better.

You know, I don't think so. But just based on what Flacco did in the system two years ago and what Judy showed with a veteran quarterback was then giving chances to make plays. Like I want to see Joe Flacco start the majority of the season. So if he does not win the job, then I will probably drop Judy a few spots. Imagine saying this sentence two years ago. I want Jerry Judy on my fantasy team, especially if Joe Flacco is throwing to him for the majority of the season. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was kind of the Jerry Judy supporter. I know if you listen to the show all summer,

all year rather, you've heard me say this before, but if you're new in 2022, he was number 22 per game, I believe, but also that that year he had three games where he barely played. He kept leaving. It was exactly like what T Higgins had last year. He had three games where he had combined eight targets in those three games. He played 1% 14% and 38% of the snaps. You took out those three games, he's averaging 15.8 PPR fantasy points per game.

That's a top 15 wide receiver. So Jerry Judy, that was a year where he was competing with Cortland Sutton. It was Russell Wilson's first year in Denver. And at the beginning of the year, Cortland Sutton was the clear number one target. And Jerry Judy just basically outplayed him, usurped him, and became the number one guy and had a strong finish.

So it's not like last year was the first time we saw something really good from Jerry Judy. He has done it before. He's had really good advanced metrics throughout his career. There have been signs that have pointed to this good receiver that's never had the opportunity to thrive. Hopefully he'll have it for a full season.

All right, so then Devontae Smith, you know, I'm gonna lump two guys together here, but Devontae Smith, the concern is this, if you look at what he has done when everybody has been healthy, Dallas Goddard, AJ Brown, and even throw Jalen Hurts in there, because he's actually been a little bit better

in a couple of games with Gardner Minshew a few years ago. You're talking about not even a top 35 wide receiver per game for Devontae Smith. So he kind of stinks when everyone is healthy. And then Zay Flowers, I actually don't, I actually feel like I can make a case for Zay Flowers going ahead of Devontae Smith. I never see him ranked ahead of Devontae Smith. His ADP is lower than Smith's on both fantasy pros and CBS. I think the reason is Dallas Goddard has missed so many games, 16 games or left early, not even including a couple of week 18s, 16 games over the last three years. And it has seriously inflated Devontae Smith's numbers.

Zay Flowers didn't have that opportunity last year. Mark Andrews stayed healthy, Derrick Henry stayed healthy, whatever. But I think the targets might be similar if everybody's healthy. And I think on a per target basis, Zay Flowers might be better than Devontae Smith. They should feel like at least be looked at as very similar players. So anyway, give me your thoughts on those two guys, Dave and Dave to start with you. And I guess your concern for both of them. It's really target volume. Absolutely. It's definitely not talent. They're both extremely talented wide receivers. They might be a little lean, but they're very fast. They're very shifty. And they play with good quarterbacks. very shifty, and they play with good quarterbacks. I just, I'm worried about how many games we will get where they're seeing 7-plus targets per. I would worry about both of them getting red zone targets as well. I think that's something

that doesn't come very often for either one of them. And that's what really pushes them down here. So when there are opportunities for them to play in a larger role, man, the track record says it. They're great. Just to point it out on Flowers, he started the year playing really well. Average almost 15 PPR points per game, average 7.4 targets per game. That was through week nine. And then after that, that's kind of when Mark Andrews started to become a touchdown hog. And Flowers targets went down,, they felt like six and the end of the year, averaging not even 10 PPR points. So it's just, it's frustrating when you don't get that consistency overall with these receivers, because you know how good they are.

And the offensive coordinators will say all kinds of stuff. Todd Mockin said it this off season that we need to get the ball and say flowers hands more. That might be great, but not only do you have Derek Henry, who you got to use in that offense and you've got Mark Andrews, who's a great touchdown score. Yeah. Added Deandre Hopkins and you resigned Rashad Bateman to an extension. Yeah.

So I have a hard time believing that Zay Flowers is going to see a target boost and especially see targets in the red zone, which is where he could really put up some huge fantasy points. We're not going to see that. And Devontae Smith, we know the track record. We've talked about it enough already. Do you agree, Jamie, that they should be viewed similarly? Flowers actually, Dave, you mentioned seven targets per game. That's 119 targets for the season. Flowers, if you take out week 18, where he played 20% of the snaps,

he was actually on pace for 121 targets. And he was on pace for 1,112 yards, but only four touchdowns. So that is the seven target per game mark. But Jamie, do you see Smith and Flowers similarly? I think Smith in his situation carries more upside because we've seen the missed time for two of his teammates. And I also think, I mean, again,

you reference people that have been watching us. If you kind of know the narrative we're pushing with Saquon Barkley that we're concerned, then if Barkley does miss any time because of an extensive workload last year, that should benefit the passing game to a certain degree and then that hopefully will lean to more targets, lend itself to more targets for Devontae Smith.

So, I mean, I think Dave said it best about, you know, flowers in his situation. The thing for Smith is we've seen high-end production from him. We really haven't seen that consistently for Flowers. Again, different years in the league, so experience matters here. Hopefully Flowers takes a step forward, but I think the off-season addition of Deandre Hopkins and things are saying about him, the fact that they kept Marc Andrews, the fact that they're pushing Isaiah likely to have pro bowl season if that does come to fruition according to Harbaugh,

then you know, the Eagles did nothing. You know, their receiving course did exactly the same, except for maybe keeping Goddard, which was a, you know, potential move that they were making. So I lean toward Smith and, you know, you've heard me say this a lot, you know, Stephon Diggs, DJ Moore, these receivers that are talented, but just are in some unfavorable fantasy situations. I think that's the case for Zay Flowers too. Like, you know, we may never see his high end stats if he stays with the more

Jackson Jackson's profile has never been to have a receiver put up astronomical stats, it's just not something that they need to be successful. Maybe that changes this year, but I just don't see it. There's also one very obvious thing that we could have said already, but I think it's almost implied at this point because everybody listening knows with these offenses, these are run heavy offenses. Yeah. And you look at the target share for these guys last year, Devante Smith was at 21%. Zae Flowers was at 25%. Yeah. But they, these are teams that just will not throw the ball a ton as long as their workhorse running backs are healthy. But right. So a couple of things. One,

the Eagles actually have a much better chance to throw more than the Ravens. The Ravens are almost always bottom five in past attempts in the Lamar Jackson era, usually 30th or 31st or 32nd. The Eagles in their last three years with AJ Brown have been 21st, 23rd, and 32nd in pass attempts. They actually had a decent amount of pass attempts the first two years, and they keep talking about how they want to change the offense and throw the ball a little bit more. And we keep talking about how they can't be as successful

on the ground. So that favors Devonte Smith. However, huge difference, I think, in touchdowns because the Eagles have thrown 24 or 25 touchdown passes in three straight seasons. Jalen Hurts always runs for double digit touchdowns. Lamar Jackson doesn't. He usually runs for, I don't know, about five. So while they do obviously have Derek Henry, but Lamar Jackson has produced two seasons where the team has thrown for 37 or more touchdowns. So it is an absolute shock that Zay Flowers caught four

touchdowns last year on 41 touchdowns for the team. I would say yards would probably favor the Eagles, but not necessarily because Lamar Jackson averaged 8.8 yards per attempt last year. And touchdowns, I would favor the Ravens in passing touchdowns. The Eagles have not eclipsed 25 in the Jalen Hurts era. Yeah. Yes. But how many of those touchdowns are receiver touchdowns?

No, they're not. But that's the thing. You just need him to, well, actually, it's the Bateman call. Not this last year, but like in their respective times in the league, like last two years, I guess. Yeah. It's certainly Jalen Hurts throws more touchdowns to his wide receivers than Lamar Jackson does. But yeah, all right, I think we've made our points. All right, so then Teteroa McMillan,

I guess I can't go one by one, but Teteroa McMillan is a head of Cortland-Sutton. We don't like that. But Teteroa McMillan versus Jameson Williams. How about Teterow Macmillan versus Jameson Williams. How about Teterow Macmillan versus Jameson Williams and George Pickens? How do you rank those three, Jamie? For now it's Williams, Macmillan, Pickens.

But I think you could make a case similar profiles. They're probably gonna have to score touchdowns to have a lot of fantasy success. McMillan's the wild card here because he could easily be the target leader for the Panthers. It's worth mentioning because I don't think we say it enough. The way Bryce Young finished last year and the production that you saw from Adam Thielen, does that translate to now McMillan? Now Thielen's still there, so how much of that is a factor?

They were prior to the NFL draft talking up Xavier LeGette, it was a first round pick two years ago. Um, you know, we could see, you know, maybe some steps forward for a Jaylen Coker or a Jutaveon Sanders, but the draft capital they spent on Macmillan, I think speaks to them wanting to feature him and hopefully feature him prominently. And so wouldn't shock me if he has more targets. These guys, I I think you said what 40 more than Jameson Williams. I think it's realistic. Yeah. Cause Jameson Williams was barely on pace for a hundred last year. Right. And then, you know, Pickens to me is a little bit wild card with the Cowboys because I don't think Jake Ferguson is going away. And I know CDLAM is still going to get fed. So is Pickens going to be a, a, a five or

six target per game receiver, or is it going to be a seven plus target per game receiver? I would probably lean toward the former and say six is probably the ballpark. But he could do a lot with those six targets because he's so talented. You know, so they're in this range for a reason. And again, I think it comes down to the profile of you're looking at what you're looking for based on how you built your team. So McMillan, I think, has the most what you're looking for based on how you built your team. So Macmillan I think has the most upside of the trio just based on the unknown, you know, he could come in and, you know, be the alpha for his team where

these other two guys are not barring an injury. Dave, how do you rank Jameson Williams for Jamie was Jameson Williams, Tedrow Macmillan, George Pickens? How about you? Yeah, I would put Pickens second and Macmillan third. I agree. I love the way that Bryce Young finished last year. I'm hoping he builds off it. I'm still not convinced that Carolina is going to be even a good offense, maybe league average. And without the guarantee that Macmillan's going to dominate targets, he can lead the team in targets. But no one on that team last year, other than Deontay Johnson,

for like a quarter of the season, averaged more than six and a half targets per game. So until I start feeling a lot better about McMillan's role and all that stuff, I can't put him ahead of Pickens who, again, I think Dallas is going to throw a lot this year. And I think that Pickens won't lead the way. He'll have some games where he's better than Lam, of course, but I could still see him getting around seven targets per game. And Jameson last year, six of his final seven regular season games, he had at least seven targets in each of them. And he averaged over 15 PPR points. I'm hoping that that's his jumping off point and that that's us. That's him showing us what he can

be scaled out over a full season. With Macmillan, you know, top 10 pick in the draft. If we look at the last five NFL drafts and the players who were top 10 picks, how do they do as rookies? 2021, Devontae Smith did not have a good rookie season, 44th per game. Jalen Waddle though, he had, I don't know, maybe you could see this being a realistic stat line for McMillan. 104 catches, 1,015 yards, six touchdowns on 142 targets.

It's just, it was just volume, volume, volume. That made Waddle 24th per game in non PPR, but 14th per game in full PPR. Jamar Chase had a huge year. Bengals had a huge year passing the ball. He's not Jamar chase, not going to happen, but maybe waddle 2022 Drake London and Garrett Wilson. They both were not top 30 wide receivers. Garrett Drake London was on an absolutely pathetically horrible passing offense. Garrett Wilson's team threw for 4,000 yards with only

15 touchdowns. And then last year we had Harrison and Odunze who were busts and neighbors who was great. I think neighbors and Waddle had something in common in that they were really the only guys. Wondell Robinson did have 140 targets, but you know, neighborsbors was obviously so much better here. 30% target per hour run rate or something, which was second highest in the league.

Waddell, his target competition was Mike Kosicki. So I could see that path of just so much volume for Tedarol McMillan unless we are taking Xavier Liggett and Adam Thielen seriously. Thielen's the one that's answer. What'd you say, Dave? The anti-Johnson was average. What targets for him? David Tenenbaum He averaged in Carolina, 8.3 targets per game on a sub 10 a dot. Tim Cynova Fielin, when he came back from the hamstring injury was

just shy of eight targets per game in his final six. So can, can that be where Macmillan sort of lives, right? Is he that much of a go-to option? And again, more so than guys that are, we think are probably speed bumps, but could be potential, you know, strong options in the Carolina offense. And so to me, it's really feeling, because I don't think Lee Gett's gonna be like a guy that is going to get enough targets. Like I think young trust dealing, I think the coaching staff trust dealing, you know,

it's a matter of does, does the younger future of the team sort of push the older player to the side? Um, and let's not forget feeling missed, I think it was at least seven games with the hamstring injury last year. So, um, if he does, you know, struggle to stay healthy, then that's, that's a big plus for McMillan. Let's not forget, I think it was at least seven games with the hamstring injury last year. If he does struggle to stay healthy, then that's a big plus for McMillan. I think McMillan is one of these guys that we're going to see, we talk about this a lot, second half of the season, where he starts to really click and hopefully Young is playing

to the same level because he finally took a step forward. I struggle with this office. Like you know, Davey made a comment, bottom half, that's probably the best way to view it but their line is so good. The running game should be strong again and now they're adding this piece that will hopefully help their passing game. Like it's still a former number one overall pick. You could debate how Bryce Young has performed so far this year, getting benched last year, his height, all these things

that still sort of factor in with him. But you got to hope that maybe something did click for him second half of the season that with, with still, I think, you know, a young offensive mind that, that can be good and Dave Canales, like can make all this work. So I want to be optimistic about the Panthers. I don't know why, but for me, there's just, it almost feels like for me, round seven is where I, I feel like I can settle for someone. Round six, I feel like I'm still looking at really good players.

And if I could get McMillan in round seven, I just feel so much better. I mean, it's so obvious. You want a guy around later, obviously. But I guess maybe I'm thinking about the running backs that are going in that range. And the drop off. Once we get to round seven at running, I can't agree more. I love to get McCaffrey in like round 10.

But I don't know, it almost feels like there's a caliber of player that I expect in round six, and a pretty kind of significant drop off that I expect in round seven. And I would just not wanna spend one of my first six picks on McMillan, but- Well, I think that's the best part of this game that we play. It's like every draft is a different animal.

And you sort of like think about what we're all experiencing right now with the fishbowl. I'm sure you guys are gonna ask questions. What do I do here? Who do you like in this spot? You know, your friends that are in it and you know, people that are doing it for the first time. I probably had like four or five questions just in round one. Lamar Jackson or a tight end, you know, which running back makes the most sense here? You know, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's, it's so fun to sort

of figure this out. And, and even looking at this, like think about it, you know, you get to round seven, right? We're looking at a range of players. I'm sure we all would consider Joann Jennings and Calvin Ridley at this spot. In the same range of guys, right? And ADP's telling us they're going later. Courtland Sutton is somebody I think we'd be fighting over if he's still sitting there in round six, round seven.

Yeah, but I think for me, looking at the CBS ADP, it's the running backs, right? It's the running backs in round seven. Yeah, but I think for me looking at the CBS ADP, it's it's the running backs, right? It's the running backs around seven. Caleb Johnson, Quinn, Sean Judkins, David Montgomery, Aaron Jones, Deandre Swift. And then Oh, no, that's in round six. That's around six. And then round seven, it's Brian Robinson Jr. Tony Pollard, Isaiah Pacheco, obviously, I like Pacheco. But I think there's such a drop off there. I might be taking a running back in round six

and hoping to get one of these guys to fall to me in round seven. That's kind of what I was alluding to before. We could have so much fun dissecting it, almost like on a two round basis and how you're building your team. So you get to this point, what'd you do in the first four or five rounds?

So round seven, let me just ask you this right now before we go to break. Teterow or McMillan, would you take Teterow or McMillan or these guys in round seven, Chris Godwin? I would take Godwin. I would too. Jordan Addison. McMillan. Over McMillan.

Chris Olave. I'll go McMillan over Olave. Jalen Waddle. Waddle following the John Smith trade. Agreed. Romo Dunze. McMillan. Same.

Ricky Pearsall. McMillan. I like Ricky. So I'll take Ricky over. I would take Jennings over McMillan though. We're definitely going to take McMillan over Kalil Shaker. All right. We're also going to take a break.

We're going to take a break. We're going to take a break. We're going to take a break. We're going to take a break. We're going to take a break. We're going to take a break. We're going to take Ricky over. I would take Jennings over Macmillan though. Yeah, I would take Macmillan over Jack. We're definitely gonna take Macmillan over Kalil Shaker. All right, we're also gonna take a break and we're gonna lament the fact that Jamie had a very nice pun opportunity to say something like the get amount of targets.

It was, I don't remember it, but it was so obvious and you just didn't take it, but that's fine. We'll be right back. I guess we'll have to finish the show on FFT. Yeah, go on. Well, since you're gonna criticize me for not taking advantage of a pun opportunity, it was nice that you not only shoehorned the fact

that you watched the Sopranos and used your anniversary to do it. Yeah, I was trying to find a fun way to do it. Yeah. So look at me twice by you. Nice shirt you're wearing, by the way. Thank you. Yeah. This is Jamie's shirt.

Jamie's shirt from 1989. Yeah. I wear. I wore. I slept in it and I forgot to change before I got on the air. So. Wow. You're wearing Jamie's shirt to bed.

Yeah. Often. It's a good. It's a good sleep shirt. It's kind of baggy. And my daughter wears her boyfriend's hoodie to bed once in a while. All right. Round seven wide receivers. So Chris Godwin is, is, you know, pretty easy. We don't know the health. We're going to keep an eye on it, but what's the highest you could see? Pardon me. I'm moving the mic there. Uh, the highest you could see Chris Godwin for you. He's currently, uh, about 70th overall or a little bit after that.

It's going to be hard for me to keep them out of my top 20. If he's moving around fine and is his old self in Tampa. It's not just injury for me though. It's a buca. You know, I mean, the fact that they drafted a player who could play in the same spot and kick him outside, which would not be a surprise. I mean, we've seen that happen to him in his career. You know, he's been at his best when he's been in the slot the majority of the time.

And so what makes the most sense for Tampa Bay's offense? Because they have another guy, you know, it's like, we always forget about Jalen McMillan. I'm not saying us, but it's like, you know, whenever we discuss this, it's just like, oh yeah, they only have three guys, or only the top two guys. They have four pretty solid wide receivers at this point.

And does McMillan keep a Bucca off the field? And I think if that's the case, then we're looking at Godwin probably being the primary slot receiver. If Godwin and a Bucuka are the two and the three behind Evans, then where's Godwin playing mostly? Well, he's probably playing on the outside. And so does that benefit Godwin's fantasy potential?

Now I would think that we're going to see these guys move around a lot because there's so much potential for all of them to play a variety of spots and that makes the most sense for their offense to keep them fluid and hard to defend. But when we start to say, okay, slot percentage and where they're lining up, like I would think if, if the top three are Evans, Godwin, Ibuka, the most sense of where they all line up is probably Ibuka playing the majority of time in the slot. So that makes me concerned for Godwin. is probably a book up playing the majority of time in the slot. So that makes me concerned for Godwin.

I would go the other way on that. Okay. First of all, I think a book can play out wide and the bucks have said as much like they're comfortable lining them up everywhere. And don't disagree to say the same thing about Godwin. If Godwin, let's just say that he's just not as explosive as he was last year. And he's still working his way back. the perfect spot for him to be in is in the slot, where he can use, you know, his route running and just short-area agility to help get himself open and be an easy, reliable short-area target for Baker, whereas a buko who's got healthier legs at this point can work along the outside. Or they put a buko on the bench and they use McMillan. They could also do it based on matches. If they're playing a team that's got slow corners, you're going to see more of McMillan on the outside and we'll see less of Godwin and Ibuka. Less of Godwin? I mean, I mean, more or less of Ibuka than less of Godwin, but you might

see fewer targets for Godwin in those games. I mean, yeah, that could be less of Godwin. Yeah. OK. Godwin, like I said, number three wide receiver per game in PPR. And it coincided with two things. One, a return to health took him a while to recover from the torn ACL and a return to the slot because in 2023 he played out wide way too much. He is much, much, much better from the slot and was a target hog and a fantastic player, arguably the best pick in fantasy before his injury. Jordan Addison.

And he was playing out wide coming back from injury in 2023, right? Yes. So I think he came back from injury in 2022, right? He tore his ACL in 21. Let me see. He tore his ACL. This is why I defer to Jamie on this. He tore his AC. This is why I deferred it to Amiens.

He tore his ACL in 2021. 2022, he just struggled coming back from the injury. 2023, he was out wide, but also he was a guy who said it took him about two years to really feel like himself again, which is why I'm not counting out Javante Williams at this point, but that's topic for another show. Jordan Addison is next in ADP. From weeks 11 through 18, Jordan Addison is next in ADP from weeks 11 through 18. Jordan Addison was actually on pace for 15 touchdowns

and 140 targets as Minnesota started to throw the ball more. What is the difference between Jordan Addison and Jameson Williams, Jamie? Why is everybody higher on Jameson? I think the concern of JJ McCarthy, at least for me, so if McCarthy is not Sam Darnold, which is just crazy, but if McCarthy is just not going to support and you got a factor in TJ Hockinson here, if he's not going to support three high level targets,

where does Addison lose? Well, he probably loses in the touchdowns because that's what sort of saved him for the majority of the first two years of his career because I don't think Jefferson's targets are going to disappear. Why would you not focus on him as the best player on this team? And Hockinson is going to obviously get his opportunities as well. So if Addison sees some regression, hopefully not significant regression in his touchdowns, then we have a problem here. So I think that's where Addison sort of takes a little bit of a step back, at least for me.

I think he's so talented. Go back to draft, there was like, oh, why did he go there? Because he wasn't going to be the alpha of his offense. Thankfully, his talent has shined through and Kevin O'Connell recognizes that and gives him the chances to make plays and gives him those red zone opportunities But you know, you're asking a lot from you know, essentially a first-year starter rookie starter in in McCarthy Coming off this knee injury. So I still believe in the system. I believe that McCarthy is going to excel in this system I don't think it was a Sam Darnold thing. I think it was What Kevin O'Connell does to get these guys open and make plays?

I think McCarthy will do just fine But I think that's what keeps Addison in this range as opposed to maybe closer to Jameson Williams. Okay. There was a big change in the middle of last year. Jamie kind of touched on it. It's red zone work. So we had nine touchdowns last year. Yeah.

Eight of them came week nine or later. Six of those eight were in the red zone. Four were inside the 10. Um, those health, health though. He had the hamstring injury early. He right. So he got a little bit healthy. He had a little bit of a break. He had a little bit of a break. week nine or later, six of those eight were in the red zone, four were inside the 10. Those health off though, he had the hamstring injury early. Yeah, right. So he got a little bit healthier. He saw an uptick in targets per route run. In the second half of the year, it went over 20%. He averaged 7.6 targets per game. He averaged

4.6 targets per game in the first half of the year. That's terrible. So be it because of his health or because they said to themselves, Hey, we've got this awesome receiver. Let's use them. Addison saw an uptick in work. The end result was great fantasy production. You've got to hope that that stays consistent from the start of this year. And I don't see why it wouldn't.

It's the only thing you've got to worry about with him is a suspension. Yeah. It's past the times too. That could set, hold on. That could set his draft stock lower. And then we're buying the dip on suspension. Yeah. It's past the time soon. That could set his draft stock lower. And then we're buying the dip on that. Sure. Yeah, it was a bunch of things. It was past attempts. Sam Darnold was throwing 35.5 passes per game in the last eight games compared to 29.6 and Addison's first seven games. It was a lower a dot went from 15.3 yards for in weeks one through 10 to 11.8 yards

and weeks 11 through 18. And ironically, it coincide. He did better when TJ Hawkinson was back, but that's because they were throwing the ball a lot more. All right. So then we have Chris Olavi and Jalen Waddle. Who do you guys like better Olave or Waddle? I like Waddle right now. Olave makes me so nervous, you know, just the quarterback situation

and his health. He's clearly so talented. And you know, we were very excited about, I was very excited about him last year and You know the multiple concussions and now you have these quarterback concerns The the best thing about a lot of a is if he stays healthy He should dominate targets But what happened last year when he was healthy Rashid Shaheed was you know out targeting him and that was extremely frustrating So she heed back they didn't really do much to enhance this receiving core There's there's huge upside I think he's one of the better values like this could be the Godwin player this year of you know

you're getting him at this cost and if he does get back to staying on the field and Somewhat competent quarterback, but I asked this question to a few people yesterday. Is this the worst quarterback competition NFL history? yesterday. Is this the worst quarterback competition in NFL history? Somebody referenced the Steelers when it was I think Mark Malone and somebody else like in the 80s. It just feels awful. Yeah, but seriously, based on what we've seen so far in the NFL, is the Saints quarterback competition that much worse than the Colts quarterback competition? Yes. Really?

I would say so just because you have a proven starter and two top 10 overall picks. A proven horrible starter, two dreadful quarterbacks. But yeah, but the Saints would be tripping over themselves to get one of the Colts quarterbacks. I mean, based on pedigree, yes, but based on actual results, Daniel Jones is just horrible failure so far.

Spencer Rattler's debut was not exactly great. Yeah, no, it's awful. I don't know why I'm arguing this. It's awful. It's so bad. Because you can't stand Daniel Jones. That's why. Two years ago, Mike Evans was going in this range. He ended up having a huge year. I think that was Baker Mayfield's first year with the team. And Godwin was playing out wide. Wasn't that good? I don't think there's a chance that one of these quarterbacks could have the kind of year that Baker had, which wasn't great in 2023, but it was good. But that you said, like he could be that kind of value because if he dominates targets, I do think the Rashid Shahid factor is really interesting though.

Cause she, he was a little more to it. That could help a lot as well. It's Kellen Moore calling plays and Kellen Moore isn't going to ask his quarterbacks to do something that they're just not capable of doing. And so I would expect a fast paced offense. I would expect them to trail in a bunch of games. I don't think their defense is particularly good. And I think you could see if a lot of a say, healthy, which has become a bigger

if over the last 12 months, that he could see north of seven targets per game on a regular basis. And we've seen it from him. We saw it last year and we saw it the year before. He puts up numbers when he gets targets. That's just that he's good. Jamie said it really talented wide receiver. And so if you're getting that type of volume and you're a really good wide receiver, you're

going to put up fantasy points. I'd like to thank our producer, Debo and AI for this list of the worst quarterback competitions we've ever seen. 2020 2002 Cowboys, Quincy Carter versus Chad Hutchinson, 2003 Ravens, Kyle Bowler versus Anthony Wright and Chris Redmond, 2005 Dolphins, Gus Farrott versus Sage Rosenfels and AJ Feely. Okay. Nice. All right, let's move on here.

We've got a few more players. I know that Khalil Shakir is going to be your least favorite of the next four. The next four are Jalen Waddell, Roma Dunze, Ricky Pearsall and Khalil Shakir is going to be your least favorite of the next four. The next four, Jalen Waddle, Roma Dunze, Ricky Pearsall, and Khalil Shakir. I think Khalil Shakir is going to be your least favorite of the four. Shakir was very solid, very solid and consistent last year. If he scores more touchdowns, he might actually outproduce this range, but I totally understand where you guys are coming from.

So how do you rank Waddle, O'Dunze, and Pearsall? And you know what? Throw Jennings in there too. Might as well get both Niners guys in there. So it's Waddle, Odunze, and the Niners guys. Waddle, Jennings, Pearsall, Shakir. Oh, Odunze. Oh, Shakir's after Odunze. Right now, yeah.

Wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I interrupted Jamie and I confused myself. Can you do it one more time? Waddle, Jennings, Pearsall, Shakir, Odunze right now. Okay. Dave?

Give me Pearsall first, Waddle next, Jennings after that, and Shakir over Odunze. All this is in pencil. All right. My fault. I thought Odunze would be ahead of Shakir. I was wrong. So, Dave, why are you so high on Ricky Pearsall? Because I love the talent, love what I saw at the end of last year. I always liked the talent. And I think that there's going to be a good opportunity, provided that he's healthy. I know that he's dealing with something right now heading into training camp.

Um, but he's, he's got that profile of a, a do it all type of wide receiver. That, that can work very nicely in Kyle Shanahan's offense. Uh, Jamie, why do you like Jennings better than Pearsall? I think we talked about this yesterday on I think sports network. I'm a little still concerned that Pearsall's health is going to be problematic, you know, based on his career at Florida and what we see right now that he's dealing with a hamstring injury. I know Jennings a little banged up also, but I just trust Jennings right now a little bit

more. You know, I said this from the beginning when, you know, we didn't know what was going to happen, especially after the Samuel trade. Like, you should take them in a very similar range. There's upside for both of them. They're ranked very close for me. I just think that Jennings, as we saw last year, when he got opportunities, he was successful. I think he's going to have the most opportunity.

I think he's going to be the target leader on this offense because Ayuk is going to struggle to come back. So it's just a slight lean toward Jennings. I think you're smart to get pieces of this offense because we know how good it could be. And in the range that these two receivers are going, you can pair them together really if you wanted to, but you should try to take a chance on one of them. Third receiver, fourth receiver, depending on your build. So Kittle should be the first pass catcher drafted for the 49ers unless you're considering Christian McCaffrey pass catcher. But in any event, it should go Kittle and then pick your favorite 49ers receiver

that's I should say, it should go Kittle and then one of these two guys, Ayuk should be third and in my opinion, a distant third. I just prefer Jennings I think he's gonna have a better year. Dave, Jalen Waddle in his career. This is where he's finished per game in PPR 14th, 14th, 22nd, 56th. Why should he not be? He's been, been top 22, three of four years. Why should he not even be a top 36 receiver in ADP? David Tenenbaum I'm just worried about him ever finding that upside in this version of the Dolphins offense.

We know from 2023, he never did anything when Tyreek and HM were on the field. He barely did it last year, three games. He has 15 plus PPR points in nine of his past 37 games. For a dude who's as talented as he is, that is shocking that he's got like a 25% hit rate on his, on his, on his fantasy production. Waddle is 34th actually in Dave's rankings, 32nd for Jamie, 38th for Heath. I think he's about 36th or so in ADP and, uh, Romo Dunze. How much did you guys downgrade Odunze after the NFL draft when they took Loveland and Burden with the first two? Is that why he's so low for you guys? It's a concern. I mean, you know, again, you look at, as we talked about with DJ Moore, like who's

going to be the best receiver on this team. And you can make a case for more. You can make a case for Odunze, it may be Burden. It may be Loveland, you know, just in terms of pass catchers. Now, the fact that the two rookies were banged up is a benefit to Odunze. But he really struggled last year. And you know, how much of that was Caleb Williams in the offense? I would put the majority on that. Because you don't produce the way that he did in college, have the profile that he had and the expectations and expect him to struggle to this level. So there's huge bounce back potential here. So if you're carrying the Detroit offense to Chicago, is he St. Brown?

Maybe is he Jameson Williams? That's probably where I would lean. And is the target volume going to be there enough to support him? So like I said, I think I haven't ranked a little bit too low. You already have me debating Shakira versus Odunze right now in my head. So let's go. Let's go. Rome.

I think there's more. He versus upside. And so it's a matter of, you know, do you want to do you want to take a chance on, on the potential best receiver on what could be a much more explosive offense? And that's probably the way to go. All right. And then finally, we're going to finish with two wide receivers going in round eight, Jacoby Myers and Matthew Golden. Jacoby Myers and Matthew Golden. Dave, who do you prefer?

Dave Brucker I have Myers ahead of Golden. And it's solely because I just don't know what to expect from Golden at this point. Myers has been pretty safe, pretty reliable as the number three fantasy receiver. He's going to suffer the same type of upside hit that Bowers is going to suffer because this is a team that's going to run the ball more. And they added two rookie receivers. It's Dante Thornton, who's actually made more of an impact this off season than Jack Bash. That could flip in training camp, or they could both end up being good in training camp. And that could take targets away from Jacoby Myers.

I feel like Myers is in that same boat as Shakir. I like Shakir better where you just look at them and say, all right, I can get a dozen PPR points out of them in a given week. Okay. Uh, Jamie, who do you prefer Myers or Golden right now? It's Myers actually prefer read over Golden right now as well. So, um, um, that, that whole like range of guys, I feel like I need to just continue to reevaluate

because like Meyers gets such a huge quarterback upgrade. I don't think that should be overlooked. Gino Smith is going to be much better than what the Raiders had last year. Now, Dave has expressed his concerns, understandably so, for Brock Bowers and, and maybe the, the run game being that much better for the Raiders had last year. Now Dave has expressed his concerns, understandably so, for Brock Bowers and maybe the the run game being that much better for the Raiders and just the target volume going down. Well if it's going to go down for Bowers it's definitely going down for everybody else because they're not, hey guess what let's just feature you know these two rookies and Jacoby Myers. But there is still an opportunity for him to be the best wide receiver on his team and he was still productive last year and he's been sort of this quiet, steady, you know, number

three, four fantasy receiver really since his, you know, quote unquote breakout in New England. He's been solid for the Raiders, especially after they traded Damonte Adams. So there's a lot to like about him, but it almost feels like he's a version of Khalil Shakir, like not somebody that's going to be a difference maker, just someone that's got a very safe floor. And so I think it's just a matter of like how you want to build your team. Last year was the first time Jacobi Myers was on pace for or had a thousand yards. He was on pace for 1164 yards. So, you know, and he was on pace for 146 targets. Yeah, if he's 120 targets,

he's probably not gonna do much for your team. But round round eight, you could do worse than that. And maybe he will. There's another guy that's gonna climb into this range too. And that's the fond eggs. Yeah, man, there's digs, there's cup, there's Jennings, there's Ridley, there's Jaden Reed, there's still some good wide receivers that we haven't talked about that we will talk about on tomorrow's show. And we expect at least some of them to climb pretty high in ADP. I'm just stunned that Jawan Jennings and Calvin Ridley

are not round seven picks, but they're not even round eight picks. So that is for tomorrow's show. And we'll save it for then. We'll also talk to you on FFT Express, which you can hear in this feed. The FFT Express feed is now becoming the Beyond the Box score feed.

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