Fantasy Football Today - WRs with Rookie QBs; Team Needs for AFC East and West (03/09 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 9, 2020

With Joe Burrow set to become the next CIN QB, we look back at what the #1 overall pick QBs have done in the last 20 years (2:00) and we look at how WRs have done with those QBs (6:55). What will it mean for A.J. Green this season? Also, how do you pronounce Ben Gretch's last name (11:15)? ... News and notes! We react to Austin Ekeler's new contract (14:00). Should he be drafted in Round 1 in PPR? Plus more reaction to news from around the NFL ... AFC East team needs as we do discuss NE (24:00), BUF (27:45), MIA (32:55) and NYJ (40:00). Can Sam Darnold's talent get unlocked in Year 3? Why don't we want BUF to make any major moves? Does MIA bring in a veteran RB? Is Damien Harris going to make an impact for NE? And then on to the AFC West with LAC (43:25), DEN (49:10), KC (52:10) and LV (55:55). Is Tyrod Taylor good enough or does LAC need to be aggressive at QB? Will KC let their second year players step into the spotlight? ... Email us at [e-mail] and tweet us with #AskFFT 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Bullhorn and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our March Madness Bracket Challenge: http://2020podcast.mayhem.cbssports.com/e/d7feed30238637cc2387331ab3061dc1fb5219555f0e9a8b?ttag=BPM20_cpy_invite_new Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Monday, March 9th.

Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. Team needs for two more divisions, the AFC East and the AFC West. And we've got a couple of questions for Ben Gretsch right off the top of the show, just being called out by the emailers. So that'll be fun. FantasyFootball at CBSi.com. I'm Adam Azer. I had a great weekend.

You guys aren't going to ask, so I'll just tell you all. I had a great weekend. I watched Parasite. Don't really understand how it won Best Picture. Dave, Heath, Ben, how were your weekends? Dave? My weekend was great. Thank you for asking.

And it doesn't sound like it's going to be a fun podcast for Ben Grotch. I don't even know how his last name sounds. Who, Ben Grotch? Yes. Yeah, I had a good weekend. I smoked a couple of chickens on Saturday. Drank some beer. It was a good time. Cool. And I smoked a couple of chickens on Saturday, drank some beer.

It was a good time. Cool. You just find a new animal to put in the smoker every Sunday, it seems. So chicken this week. Ben, how you doing? How was your XFL weekend? I know you're the XFL dude. It was all right. We still have some head coaches that are playing some 1990s style football

that is pretty annoying it's it's bothered it's you know bogging down the product a little bit the lack of aggressiveness but um and then you know other games will be really exciting so it's like every weekend you get a few duds a few good ones and if you want to hear a quarterback blister his offensive coordinator live on the air during a game after throwing a touchdown, no less. The XFL is the league for you. It's good stuff. It's fun stuff. All right. So let's get into the show. We've had this ongoing debate about what Joe Burrow will be for his wide receivers. Will he be better or worse than Andy Dalton? So our first email comes from Nick, email of the day number one. You guys keep going back and forth with Ben Gretchen. I don't know what that's all about.

G-R-E-T-C-H-E-N. Auto-correct, obviously. About Joe Burrow being good as a rookie. Does Ben think Joe Burrow will be as good as Andrew Luck's rookie year, which was 4,374 passing yards, 23 touchdowns, 18 interceptions. Do you think Burrow can do about 4,400 yards, 23 touchdowns, 18 interceptions? Yeah, I mean, I certainly think he can. It's funny. I only think I've talked about Burrow once, so the listeners say we keep going back and forth. My, my take on him, he's an older pro, uh, older prospect. There is concern. I think

that he wasn't good until his final, um, collegiate season until he was a lot older. You know, I'm always talking about age with prospects. I think that, uh, matters more at some of the skill positions, but I don't think it's completely irrelevant that joe burrow wasn't a really productive college quarterback until he was like 22 23 a lot older than pretty much everyone he was playing with and against um but that should also mean that he's you know potentially further along or more prepared and ready to start from week one and if he does i think cincinnati is a great spot that's basically what we've said is that if they can improve their offensive line a little bit, they have a ton of skilled position players. Sounds like they're going to try to bring AJ Green back. So yeah, I absolutely think in Cincinnati, particularly with the weapons that he has, he doesn't have

to be amazing to put up those numbers. I think he can definitely do that. Yeah. I was looking this morning, just kind of trying to think about this some more. And listen, there's a mixed bag of quarterbacks over the last 20 years who have gone 1.1 in their rookie year. There have been, like Andrew Luck, 4,300 yards, 23 touchdowns. That was the very best. But Jameis and Cam both threw for 4,000 yards in their rookie year. Then you've got a lot of guys that were in that six yards per attempt, six and a half yards per attempt, and 3,000, 3,500 yards. There's upside there. I think the expectation should be mediocre

for year one. Matt Ryan, this past year, had 4,466 passing yards 26 touchdowns 14 interceptions i'm not sure exactly what he added on the ground if anything those numbers seem right on par with what joe burrow could do don't you think it would be the greatest rookie season for a 1.01 quarterback in the last 20 years that's so you that's such a narrow angle on it though i did that to be fair because if you look at first round quarterbacks over the last 20 years it looks much much worse i kind of was trying to be more fair let's let's talk real quick about looking at historical over the last 20 years because rookie quarterbacks didn't get a chance to start until like maybe five eight to ten years ago they really didn't get pushed right

in and then more to the point the league has also changed a ton just in the last half decade a ton way more passing way more open uh offenses three wide receiver sets the a lot of the rookie quarterbacks you're comparing them to if you go back 20 years, it's not even in the same league. It's not the same type of playing time opportunity. It's a completely different situation in my opinion. And how different is this quarterback compared to a lot of the other quarterbacks that have been taken at one point? I think it's a fine argument if you want to say Joe Burrow is the best rookie quarterback we've seen. I mean, I can't take that stand.

No way. I can't take that stand. No way. I can't take that stand because I think Andrew Luck was better when he came out. I don't know if there's anybody since. I don't think you have to take that stance. I think you can say the league has changed, and he doesn't have to be the best that we've seen to be better than a lot of these guys 10 years ago. So, Heath, you obviously don't think that he can hit 44, 66 or 26.

I'm never going to project someone to do something that no one's done. Would you feel more comfortable projecting him for 4,000 yards, maybe a little bit more than that? 21 touchdowns and eight interceptions. Is that more in the wheelhouse of what you would expect from Joe Burrow? I think that's fine. I keep it. That may even be a little low on the touchdowns,

but the league has definitely changed but the rookie quarterbacks last year weren't good as passers that's Derek Carr's numbers from 2019 and he finishes the 23rd like Kyler was 3,720 he was the 23rd quarterback in fantasy points per game at that rate 17th overall Baker nearly hit 4,000 in not 16 games. Jameis hit 4,000. I'm kind of curious. Daniel Jones threw 24 touchdowns in 13 games. He wasn't going to have 4,000 yards.

If you want to expand this to receivers, I did go back to the last 11 seasons, beginning with Matthew Stafford, and looked at the number one overall pick quarterbacks. So it's Stafford, Bradford, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, Jameis, Goff, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray. And in their rookie seasons, what did their wide receivers do? So the leading wide receiver on each team. So let's do this exercise real quick, because this was also an AJ Green discussion. I think probably more pertinent for AJ Green than Joe Burrow. He's obviously going to go a lot earlier than Joe Burrow in drafts.

So Matthew Stafford, 2009. I took the names of the receivers out to see if you can guess who the leading receiver was on each team. Some are easier than others. Who do you think it was in 2009 for the Lions? Calvin Johnson. It was. He played only 14 games.

He was the number 20 wide receiver in non-PPR, number 22 in PPR. A big drop-off from being the number three wide receiver the year before, but he had 984 yards and five touchdowns. You just said he only played 14 games. But it still was a big drop-off. But he went from 12 touchdowns to five. That was the biggest difference. Sam Bradford in 2010.

Who do you think his leading receiver was? Exactly. Danny Amendola. It was Danny Amendola. Good job. He did not have a big year. 85 catches, not bad, but 689 and three for Amendola. Cam Newton, this is the best example of a wide receiver.

Steve Smith, top seven wide receiver. 79 catches, almost 1,400 yards, seven touchdowns in 16 games. Andrew Luck, his top receiver was? Reggie Wayne. Reggie Wayne, second most targets in the

NFL that year. He was the number 14 wide receiver in non-PPR, number eight in PPR. He had 106 catches, 1,355 yards, and 5 touchdowns. And T.Y. Hilton was a top 30 wide receiver. And I think the trend I started to notice was the touchdowns were possibly more affected than the yards. 2015, Jameis Winston, it was, his leading receiver.

Mike Evans. Mike Evans, 1,200 yards, three touchdowns. He had 12 the year before, and I think he had 12 the year after. But Evans was the number 26 wide receiver, and non, number 22 in PPR. Jared Goff, his leading receiver in 2016 was? It was Sammy what? No, he wasn't there yet.

Good luck on this one, guys. No, who left? Kenny Britt. Kenny Britt. I was thinking of Dwayne Bowe and stuff. I knew he signed with the Browns. Yeah, yeah. Kenny Britt was 24th and non, 26th in PPR.

He had 68 catches, 1,000 yards, five touchdowns. Not bad. And Baker Mayfield, leading receiver was? Jarvis. Jarvis Landry. Similar year to Britt. 976 yards, 4 touchdowns. He was 22nd and 9th, 19th in PPR.

And Kyler Murray did not really give us a good receiver. Larry Fitzgerald was actually the leading receiver. Christian Kirk, probably better. Definitely better on a per-game basis, but he missed 3 games. So, you had 2 studs. But talented receivers. Reggie Wayne had over 1300 yards. Mike Evans had over 1200 yards. Steve Smith had almost 1400. Calvin Johnson had a thousand and 14 games. And then the guys who are throwing to like Danny M and don't like a lot of these guys are going to go into situations where the team is just awful because they're the first pick. Right. But like part of the argument with Joe Burrow is he's going into a situation where he has talent around him and

of those names you just read that were guys that were like top 10 potential receivers a lot of them you're right the touchdowns seem to be impacted yeah but these teams are going to trail too they're not good teams and that's another thing I would also argue with Burrow I think he's going to have to throw to catch up in games uh so i mean i think there's plenty of room for them to rack up passing yards maybe not as many touchdowns i think i'm sold on that i i think um like that is one thing when looking at this list adam of those first round quarterbacks only two of them that had at least 400 pass attempts in their rookie year had a touchdown rate over 4.2%, which is really, really low.

But it's something we saw with Kyler last year. I think that one thing that rookie quarterbacks may have trouble dealing with is the lack of space in the red zone. All right. Something to think about. A more important email for Ben is this one. Email of the day number two from Dave from a city that used to be part of Washington, D.C.

Alexandria, Virginia, uh, Alexandria, Virginia. Oh, cool. That used to be the home of Hilltop until it caught fire. Can we get a final answer on how to pronounce Ben's last name? When someone pointed out on the podcast that his Twitter handle wasn't that

clever because his name doesn't rhyme with catch Ben's answer was something like, I think I know how to pronounce my own last name, which I think established two things pretty clearly. One, Ben says his name does in fact rhyme with catch and two, he's willing to be kind of a jerk about it, but you guys keep saying

it rhymes like it rhymes with fetch. Ben's clearly got strong feelings about this. Can we get a final answer? Did Adam just write this email and make up Dave from a city that used to be part of Washington, D.C.? Of course not. Okay. Obviously, like, yeah, I do have strong feelings about how apparently.

But obviously, the issue here is that we don't all say the word catch the same. I say catch like it rhymes with fetch. The emailer and Adam don't think catch and fetch rhyme. They think it's catch. We're crazy. We're so crazy to think that C-A-T-C-H doesn't sound like fetch. I mean. But that's the whole issue here.

That's all I'm saying. The issue is that. Yes, my name rhymes with fetch. My name rhymes with fetch. You can email her. If you don't say catch that way, that's fine. The answer is that it rhymes with fetch. Ben, the fact that you do say catch that way, I think that's the problem here. I think you say that too?

Yeah. How do you guys... So you go outside and have a catch? No. Catch. Yeah. Catch. Catch.

Frog. Dog. You say catsup? This is way more interesting than frog and dog. Catsup and ketchup are two completely different things. I mean, at least their labels are different. Catch, fetch. Do they rhyme? Catch and what?

Fetch. No, of course they don't rhyme. It just depends how you pronounce it. Heath and Ben are saying that they do. I don't think catch and fetch technically rhyme, but I do say catch. You have a hybrid. Yeah.

All right. Well, I guess thank you for clearing it up. Heath, I'd like for you to weigh in on the fairly awkward fantasy baseball moment that we're having right now. Are you seeing this? No. We have one spot left in our office league. Yes. And one of our colleagues recommended that I go to Ben Trager. I was going to offer it to either Ben Gretsch or Ben Trager.

So I don't really know what to do right now. Maybe they want to share a team. It's a pretty terrible league. I say whoever you make play in the league is probably like, there should be no hard feelings if you don't get into this league. Schrager could have it. Oh, all right. Fine. Schraggy B is going to get in the league.

Great league's been going on for like 10 years. It's awesome. All right. News and notes. Austin Eckler, four years, $24.5 million, $15 million guaranteed. He's played seven games without Melvin Gordon in his last two seasons. And here are the carries in those seven games for Eckler. 12, 13, 15, 12, 17, 9, 18.

So it got better this year. And he had five or more catches in six of those seven games. Dave, what's your read on this signing of eckler four years 24.5 million with 15 million guaranteed i think it's a great deal for the chargers because they're getting a hell of a running back at a pretty cheap price and they are still open for business at the position they can let melvin gordon go they can draft another running back maybe one will be available in the second or third wave of free agency at a cheap price that they can pair with aust Eckler. I loved going back and looking at how Eckler did

with and without Melvin Gordon. 12 games with Melvin Gordon, about 10 non-PPR points per game, 16 PPR points per game. Which is awesome. I'm not complaining. What, you think I'm about to poo-poo Austin Eckler here? No, no, I'm just saying that's? You think I'm about to poop? No, no, just saying like that. That's the width. It's going to get better. That's good. The four games without Melvin Gordon, he was averaging 29 PPR fantasy points per game and 26 PPR fantasy points per

game. That's not good. That's excellent. So I'm hoping that the chargers do nothing at running back. Go with Justin Jackson is the one B make Eck the 1A. Give him 20 touches per game. That's what he averaged in four games without Melvin Gordon to begin the year. Let him be that guy. And if they do, Austin Eckler, first round pick?

Would you? I've only got him at 15 touches per game, 164 carries, and 80 receptions. And that's just a tiny little boost from before the contract because I had a little more fear then about them bringing in someone to take more touches than i do now i still think they're going to bring somebody else in but i 15 touches a game for austin eckler in ppr that makes him my number five running back wish you would probably take in as a first round pick borderline i don't think you have to like i know it sounds scary to do something like that but i think that there like i know it sounds scary to do something like that

but i think that there's potential there but they got to do nothing they can't draft somebody i think they're going to draft someone or sign somebody right they're going to do they should do something and that'll kind of hurt them i've got him as a late second round pick assuming that Hoopoo at Ben Grinch. Gratch. I like Eckler. I like Eckler. No, I would take him probably in the second. Yeah. Okay. I love the high-value touches.

I'm concerned about Phillip Rivers not being there anymore. I'm concerned about how much he targeted running backs in the green zone and how much he targeted running backs overall. And I think that was a huge part of Eckler's value. And if Tyrod Taylor's starting, I think he gets knocked a little bit from those types of touches. He could lose some of that,

but he should still have a really heavy distribution towards the passing game, which is really good for PPR back. So yeah, I mean, I love Eckler. It's challenging with the elite efficiency he's had for him to be able to keep that up with a larger workload.

He's a tough guy to pin down right now until we really know what the mix will be. Would you guys rather have Todd Gurley or Austin Eckler if you're drafting today? Eckler. I'd take Eckler. What if the Chargers drafted running back in round three? Three? Would you guys rather have Todd Gurley or Austin Eckler if you're drafting today? Eckler. I'd take Eckler by a mile. What if the Chargers drafted running back in round three?

Three? Yeah. Still Eckler barely. Still Eckler. They would have to make a big splash for me to move Eckler down. Big splash at running back. Okay. And I think they've got so many other needs that they just can't. And they weren't going to pay Melvin Gordon,

so I can't imagine them spending a ton of money on free agency. I think Eckler's going to be the guy. Joe Mixon or Eckler? Mixon. Eckler. I'm taking Mixon. So Eckler, looking good right now. If you haven't been to Dynasty League, his value has really changed

quite a bit. Okay, Kansas City not expected to bring LeSean McCoy back. It's not a surprise. It's according to NFL Network. This is interesting. The Saints, they placed the first-round tender on Taysom Hill, which isn't really that much money. One year, $4.67 million. And they can also match any offer made to Taysom Hill.

And any team that signs him would have to give up a first-round pick if they sign him. So Taysom Hill is obviously staying with the Saints. And, you know, Ben, from a dynasty standpoint, how excited would you be to have Taysom Hill is obviously staying with the Saints. And, you know, Ben, from a dynasty standpoint, how excited would you be to have Taysom Hill on your team, not for this year, but theoretically for 2021 and beyond? Not very excited. I mean, I don't even know that he's worth a roster spot,

especially if it's a one QB league. If it's a two QB league, I can understand it. But you'd have to have a pretty deep league for me to just burn a roster spot on a 30 year old backup quarterback that might get the chance to start down the road and then at that point we still don't even know how good of a passer he is everyone is just assuming uh and kind of taking Sean Payton at his word that this guy can be good or not everyone but a lot of people seem to be assuming that, that he can be an effective full-time quarterback. I'm not nearly as certain.

Yes, the fantasy upside would be huge with his running ability if he did ever show that he could throw and play that often, but I'm just not really buying it. I've disagreed with Ben a lot over the last three episodes, so I just wanted to take a moment to say that he is 100% correct about Taysom Hill. I at least see a scenario where he's a really good fantasy quarterback he's got a great head coach great system he's got a number one wide receiver who's young and in his prime he's going to be able to run the ball we know that uh you know yeah but there's an opportunity cost of holding for an entire year oh i mean you got like these dynasty leagues have such big rosters.

I wouldn't really have a problem holding. It doesn't matter the size. I'd literally rather hold any. I mean, it matters the size to an extent, but almost any wide receiver or running back prospect that's like a rookie that has potential to break out. There are so many that even in my shallow leagues are not

available. Hold that guy. Corey Davis. You're holding Davis over Jason Hill. What about Miles Boykin? Is it 100%? I would hold Boykin for sure. 100%. I mean, I've just I brought up the name we talked about him last week on the pond. Javon

Wims. Honestly, I'd hold wins. Like what's the payoff with a quarterback? You can you can find a replacement. So yeah, but there's probably the thing about the payoff with a quarterback? You can find a replacement. Yeah, but there's probably... Think about your dynasty teams. I have one. I've got some crappy veterans that I have to cut. That's your problem, Adam.

Well, no. I did well in the league. There's so many guys on my team that throughout the year, at some point, I need a player. I pick up Willie Sneed or something. There's somebody you can cut. I'm not going to cut a second year running back to keep Taysom Hill.

Just go through the rest here. The Redskins are allowing Trent Williams to seek a trade. The Eagles are allowing left tackle Jason Peters to test free agency. The Eagles also hired former Baltimore offensive coordinator Marty Morinwig, who was there in 2018, Lamar Jackson's rookie season. They hired him as an

offensive consultant and an article on our website about whether or not they could bring some of those elements over to their team. And this is actually a quote from Doug Peterson from the Eagles website, which was, I think from that standpoint, it helps from an ideas perspective how they use Lamar, what they were doing

with their tight ends. The run game is a little different and unique from what ours is. From that standpoint, having that information and knowing that structure can, what they were doing with their tight ends. The run game is a little different and unique from what ours is. From that standpoint, having that information and knowing that structure can enhance what we're doing by bringing in an idea or two from that system. Dave, does that quote mean anything to you? No. Okay. Do you really think that they're going to start running Carson Wentz?

I don't know. Maybe that's going to be part of the design of how they use their run game but i think that they've got a pretty good beat on their offense maybe they're going to draft a running quarterback and draft jalen hurts bring bring him in to play eight plays a game all tasem hill or lamar jackson as a rookie didn't they push morning wag out so that like essentially pushed him out so that greg roman could who was, like, the real architect of the run game. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. So, hiring Mourningweg. Mourningweg almost resisted it, I think. Yeah. I mean, Mourningweg was, like, in charge at the beginning of last season. And then, like, I think mid-year, right, he got removed and Roman kind of took over. Or maybe it was after the season. But I don't think Mourningweg is,weg is the run game architect by any means.

I also think the Eagles need to shake it up on offense. They were third in scoring in 2017. They've been 18th and 12th the last two seasons. Seattle could be interested in Alex Collins or Marshawn Lynch. They need some running back depth with their two guys hurt.

Denver will not be bringing back Theo Riddick or Devante Booker. Those guys did pretty much nothing last year. And Buffalo signed or will sign Josh Norman to a one-year contract, cornerback, one-year $6 million to $8 million for Josh Norman. Please join our Facebook group, Fantasy Football, today and tell your friends. Leave us a nice comment in Apple Podcasts. We'd always appreciate that.

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They went 12-4. They won the AFC East again. They were actually 7 seventh in the NFL in scoring. I don't have the breakdown of where they were in offensive scoring because I know they scored on defense and special teams. But they also ran the third most plays in the NFL, which was surprising. They were 23rd in yards per play. We know their offense needs to be better.

Ben, you have the team needs for the Patriots. Go for it. Yeah, I mean, picking out team needs for the Patriots. Go for it. Yeah. I mean, picking out team needs for the Patriots is like such a futile endeavor because Belichick is kind of the master. I mean, everyone looks and compares team building to Belichick because he's so well known for re-imagining his entire roster. And most famously,

you know, just shifting to a tight end heavy scheme when they brought in Gronk. But it's obvious that they're going to need to address quarterback, whether it's Tom Brady or someone else. And we don't know if that will wind up being, you know, maybe a more mobile core quarterback, which could change their entire system. Maybe he wants to try something different. It also seems pretty obvious that they need to add an outside receiver,

even though I do still think Nikhil Harry can be very good. And they have Julian Edelman in the slot. There's still a lot of concern, you know, with Harry not being healthy or productive in year one that they don't have playmakers on the outside. I think the running back rotation is probably fine. You still have Sonny Michel. You brought in Damian Harris early last year and didn't even, you know, crack the field in year one. But he's still there. James White is still there as the pass catching

running back um but yeah i would think mostly you're looking at quarterback wide receiver obviously you know tight end still an area of need as well since gronk retired so it's just a matter of what they want to do last year titan wasn't really an area need because they they weren't really leaning on the tight end position in their scheme um so it's it is kind of challenging to figure out especially without knowing who of challenging to uh to figure out especially without knowing who the quarterback will be to figure out what their biggest needs will be but you know there's definitely needs guys i can see them adding another receiver i could see them moving on from philip dorsett and trying to add some youth there and maybe someone that's a little

more speedy uh nick hill harry is a great route runner and a nice big target, but I don't know if we can qualify him as a speedster. And that would give whoever the quarterback is just another good element in the offense. Edelman's not going anywhere. The offensive line, I think, has some serious issues too. They could lose a couple of guys there. They might get one back with David Andrews. He had the blood clot last year, didn't play. Looks like he's on his way to coming back. And there's a lot of good young talent on that line. Isaiah Wynn, probably the biggest of the bunch, but he's got to stay healthy. So they've got a lot of needs, and if they sign Brady to a deal where they're paying him north of $30 million a year,

it does kind of hurt their cap. Right now their cap space is projected to be right around $40 million. That's nowhere close to the top of the list of teams It does kind of hurt their cap. Right now, their cap space is projected to be right around $40 million. That's nowhere close to the top of the list of teams that have a ton of cap space. I mean, just generally speaking, does this feel like an avoid offense right now? Right now, kind of. Talk to us again in July and August. Does Julian Edelman need Tom Brady to be a must-start

wide receiver? No. Definitely not. He just needs them to either sign Tom Brady or bring someone else in. I think they'll do that. You mean like not Jared Stidham? If Stidham is starting starting then i'm probably not

going to be very interested in julian edelman okay last patriots question go around the room dave heath ben who has a better chance of being a sleeper or a productive sleeper this year mikhail harry or damian harris harry harry yeah harry for sure all. Harry's a round 10 guy for me right now. Heath, other than throwing the ball to John Brown on every play, what does Buffalo's team need? It's really interesting because if you were making the argument for what the Bills need from a be a contender to win the Super Bowl, then you could make an argument they need almost every position. But from a fantasy

perspective, we don't really want them to bring in a complimentary back to Devin Singletary, even though they've indicated they are going to. So that's one need they are going to address. I don't really want them to bring in another wide receiver because between Cole Beasley and John Brown, hopefully an increased role for Dawson Knox, it would just kind of crush any hope of anyone being good with Josh Allen. But I anticipate they're going to bring in a wide receiver. I think they're pretty well set at tight end and they'll probably improve the offensive line a little bit, but it's kind of a team that has needs, but for fantasy purposes, there's so little value to be had there. We don't

really want them to address those needs because it's going to cause everyone to have to share more and then no one's going to be valuable except for Josh Allen. Where were they in terms of pace of play last year, the Buffalo Bills? They weren't racking up a ton of plays week after week, right? They were just trying to run the ball. I've got them at 1,018 plays last year, and the league median was 1,020. So right in the middle of the pack basically now that doesn't totally tell you pace because it's game script dependent but they ran a 1018 plays the

year before they ran 1008 they've been pretty average in terms of total plays the last couple of years so below average in yards and below average in points typically and then there's a stat there are 23rd and points and 24th and yards on offense from scrimmage but their skill position ppr like the combined ppr points of their skill positions were either 28th or 29th i think they're down there in the bottom five of the league because josh allen rushing accounts for so many of their offensive touchdowns and a lot of their offensive yardage so yeah i agree, I agree with Heath. It's already full up.

If they add anyone, I don't want anybody on the Bills. Yeah, unless you're just hoping for Josh Allen. I mean, maybe the biggest impact that the Bills can have in fantasy is Josh Allen being a league winner with his rushing prowess. I think he needs a tall wide receiver. I think his receivers are too short. He's just too inaccurate, and they have to get him a 6'3 wide receiver to throw to.

He needs it. Obviously, I'm very hopeful for Josh Allen, but John Brown had a really good year, but he was 18th in non-PPR and 24th in PPR on a per-game basis. So if they go and add another wide receiver, they make some type of significant investment, free agency, or the draft. It'll hurt. Yeah.

Is he going to be outside your top 30, John Brown? He could be. I still think he would be in the conversation of being a number three receiver. I think I'm looking at this right. There was no game last year where multiple Bills receivers had 14 plus PPR points. There would be one a game some weeks, most weeks.

But I mean, just looking at Brown and Beasley, they never overlap. They never had 14 plus PPR points together. Okay, so like Singletary and Brown did, but not receivers. Correct. Okay. It wasn't really that often when Singletary, and maybe we should include Gore in that as well, but Singletary plus another receiver, a couple times,

they'd hit both 14 PPR points. Really concerned they are going to just bring in a couple of Eagles, Jordan Howard and Alshon Jeffrey, and totally ruin everything. Why the Eagles? Just those are the two guys that pop up would, it would be like the biggest soul crushers. Howard. I could see.

And they, they, they move on from Gore and they bring in Jordan Howard to replace him. And that's a nice cheap option for them to have as a one B back. And that would stink for Singletary. I think they could get a good receiver in the draft. A good one. That can be what Adam is talking about. North of six feet tall,

maybe more big and catch radius-y than a Denzel Mims. They're definitely going to try to add someone like that, I think. They tried with Antonio Brown last year, even after they brought in John Brown, and then Brown basically said Antonio Brown basically said, Antonio Brown

basically said, I'm not going to play with them, and the trade kind of fell through because of that. They look like they want that type of elite outside guy, and then John Brown becomes more of just a deep threat. Beasley in the slot. This is a draft that's loaded with big

physical receivers. Mims has physicalityity plus he's fast. But if you want someone that's a little bit slower, there's guys like Chase Claypool and Gandy Golden from Liberty and Jawan Jennings from Tennessee. And there's a bunch more on top of that. So they can find somebody who's good at receiver and big. I don't see them trying to chase after a Mark Hooper if he hits the free agent market. They're definitely not going to make a run at Antonio Brown again,

but somebody who's short and speedy, I don't know if that's really what they need more of. Let's go to the Miami Dolphins. They were 5-11. They were in last place. They were the fourth lowest scoring team in the NFL. They were the worst rushing team in the NFL. And they did actually throw the seventh

most passes in the NFL. So, Dave, the Dolphins, I mean, they need a running back, right? It might be easier, Adam, to list the things that they don't need than what they do need. Because they've got a good outside receiver in Devontae Parker, and they've got a promising tight end in Mike Kosicki,

and they've got a quarterback that they can begin the year with, Ryan Fitzpatrick. Everything else is up for grabs. And I mean everything else is up for grabs. Their running backs are LOL terrible. Their other wide receivers, Albert Wilson's going to get cut. They don't want to pay him $10 million this year. Alan Hearns is going to get cut. Their next most expensive wide receiver is Shaquem Grant. He's only getting $4 million. They can use him on kick returns. Preston Williams has two years left on his cheap deal. They've got a couple of guys that can fight for a roster spot that you might have heard of before. They're going to add at least one wide receiver in the draft, maybe even another one in free agency. But the offensive line has to get addressed.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if they've got four new starters on that offensive line. They were graded the worst in pass blocking, pro football focus 30th and run blocking and they're already being linked to the patriots linemen joe thune and uh ted caris and i wouldn't surprise me one bit if the dolphins splurged on both of them because they've got 88 million dollars in cap space that's the most of anybody out there and their defense is bad their pass rush was terrible they had the league low 23 sacks there were 10 teams that had twice as many so they they need help everywhere they were terrible it's terrible at stopping the run they were not great at defending the pass they can't get to the quarterback they need a lot of stuff they have 14 draft picks three in the first round right right

right it could be a very different team they need to use those picks to find some impact players i would almost i almost hope that they go a little crazy on the offensive line in free agency maybe they do like i said spend the money up on those patriots guys so that's not as big of a need in the draft and maybe they end up with jonathan Taylor coming out of the draft. And at first people might go, yeah, he's on the dolphins and we can't use them in fantasy. But if that offensive line gets shored up, Taylor can give them the rushing presence they want. And I think he can be potentially 16, 17 touches a week right out of the gate. My issue with that is the dolphins are in such a rebuild taking a running back early is kind of like if you think you're in position and it's the last piece of the puzzle

it's really a hard thing to try to build around so i think that would be a pretty um poor pick from a value perspective for them and they seem to be kind of doing the the analytics type breakdown that that sashi brown did in in cleveland and and rebuild we'll see you know how they go from there but it seems like that's where they've been headed if you kind of track what they've been up to so i don't know that we'll see a running back like that i actually think we might see a veteran running back brought in somebody they can pay some money so that they're like you know actually getting their their uh salary cap up a little bit,

but somebody on a short-term deal and who I, you know, wouldn't necessarily make them better, which I don't know if they really want to be significantly better in 2021. So I think they're actually like a dark horse spot for one of the big free agent running backs. Heath, what do you think the future would look like if it's Tua Tagovailoa throwing to Devontae Parker

and Preston Williams and Mike Kosicki? That's a pretty good set of weapons, I think, for Tua. I think it would look bright. The future would look bright. There'll be bright hospital lights if the offensive line isn't good, though. They do, certainly. They really need to

invest there so who are we most excited about is it obvious answer davante parker and and we should note davante parker his splits with and without preston williams were pretty dramatic eight games with him 400 yards five touchdowns four touchdowns games without him, 802 yards. Twice as many yards. Of course, I think he had a little bit more Josh Rosen when he was playing with Preston Williams and only Ryan Fitzpatrick without him, I believe.

Twice as many yards in those eight games. That's pretty eye-opening. Yeah, I put together my first sleepers, breakouts, and busts last week, and I just based it totally on the industry consensus. And Parker was the consensus 16 or 17 wide receiver. And that is a big red warning siren for me just because like, yeah, he was really good in the second half of last year. It's also half of a season and five years of a career.

And it didn't happen until Preston Williams got hurt. So I, I have grave concerns that also like Fitzpatrick could start the first half of the year and then a bad rookie quarterback could play the second half or Devante Parker could go back to what he was the first four years of his career. We saw Alshon Jeffrey really struggled to stay healthy for a long time. Finally had one year where he played 16 games and he struggled to stay healthy again. So I think there's a lot of reasons to be worried about Devante Parker. I would be thrilled to

draft him as a number three wide receiver with upside. I am have no interest in drafting him as a starter too soon for you to take him in round five. Yes. Absolutely. I agree completely with everything Heath just said. Most overvalued wide receiver in all of fantasy right now. Easily. I named him in the bus episode we did, I think, last week or two weeks ago as well. Completely agree with what Heath just said. Okay.

So in the draft we did in January, we got to do another draft. He went in round five. It was a three receiver PPR league. Calvin Ridley, Devontae Parker, Cortland Sutton. They were three out of four picks with Kerryon Johnson in between. In fact, Ben took Kerryon Johnson and Dave took Devontae Parker. Oh my gosh.

I'll stand up for Devontae because if the Dolphins have all these draft picks, they can't rebuild everything fast. And the defense is, this is going to sound crazy. They're in worse shape than the offense, if you ask me. And so this is a team that's going to trail a lot, throw a lot. And I still look at Devante Parker as being the number one receiver for Miami. And Ryan Fitzpatrick is going to be the quarterback. We'll see if it's going to be

for four games or 12 games. Who knows how it's going to be? But Parker can be that number one guy, and I think he's got some potential to have volume go in his favor. Preston was almost exactly on par with him when Preston was on the field. And they both dealt with a lot of Josh Rosen, not necessarily helping the offense a ton. True. And then once Preston Williams gets hurt, Devonta Parker breaks out. What would Preston Williams have done with Ryan Fitzpatrick for a whole second half of the season? It's kind of my question, because that's what we're going to be looking at in 2021. Are we sure that Preston Williams is going to be back on the field and back to his self after tearing his ACL in November? That's a good point.

Let's go to the Jets and finish out the AFC East. Now, hold on, just real quick. What if it's not Preston Williams, and what if it's they get, we'll bring up Denzel Mims' name again. Or they sign a good receiver in free agency. Or they make a trade or something like that. Obviously, that'll impact Devontae Parker. Yeah. All right.

Well, a lot to consider here. All right. Let's go to the Jets and finish out the AFC East. They went 7-9, which isn't that bad for the lowest scoring team in the NFL, but their seven wins, they had a good one against Dallas. They beat Buffalo in Week 17 when Buffalo was sitting everybody. Their other wins were the Giants, the

Redskins, the Raiders, the Dolphins, the Steelers. They really were not as good as their record IMO. So the Jets, what do they need, Ben? Yeah, I mean, we're just going back to back to back with all these AFC East teams that are like so so depressing to talk about they're probably going to lose Robbie Anderson they're going to need outside wide receiver help Damarius Thomas

is a free agent as well um Jamison Crowder I think is going to be back in the slot but and Chris Herndon who missed the whole year first with the suspension then with you know recurring injuries when he's trying to get back on the on the field, should be an important part of their past game at the tight end spot. But they're going to need outside wide receiver help. They might need a backup running back because, you know, Bilal Powell and Ty Montgomery are kind of older veterans. They might want to bring and obviously behind Le'Veon Bell. They might want to bring in some youth there. I would, you know, like a fourth or fifth round back, you know, somebody down the line.

But yeah, you still have Sam Darnold. You're kind of in place there. You need to protect him better. And you also have the whole issue that Adam Gase is still the head coach. And I, you know, who cares what they bring in? No one's going to be good for fancy because it's all Adam Gase. Well, that was my next question. Really, their needs, a lot of it's offensive line.

Their offensive line was so bad do you think there is guys a realistic path to unlocking the talent on this team i mean look sam darnold third overall pick hopefully they bring in a receiver you still have levy on bell crowder can play hernick they're not they're not completely untalented team on offense. Can they get to another level in 2021? In 2020, sorry. Is it realistic? I don't know if they can get to another level, but I do. I had two jets on my sleeper

column, and you would hate one of them because his name is Le'Veon Bell. How could he be a sleeper? But it's because I think he's the number 20 running back right now in consensus rankings. And you should expect if Le'Veon Bell stays healthy next year, he's going to be better than he was last number 20 running back right now in consensus rankings and you should expect if levion bell stays healthy next year he's going to be better than he was last year he's at 3.2 yards per carry that's absolutely absurd and is going to go up um he had a terrible touchdown rate and so yeah the

jets offensive line is going to be better i would expect bell's going to be at least as good as he was last year and probably a little better and i I think if you're asking for someone to be unlocked, it's probably Jamison Crowder because that's really the only position that has consistently been good in an Adam Gase offense is that slot wide receiver role. And last year when Crowder and Darnold were on the field together, 25% of Darnold's targets went to Jamison Crowder. So I think there's some hope for both of those guys to be good fantasy options all right Le'Veon Bell had he was on pace and he only played 15 games he played 16 he was on pace for 331 touches that's a lot only 1,334 total yards

which is good but not great for 331 touches but only only four touchdowns. That's insane. All right, let's go to the AFC West, guys. Let's start with the Chargers. They went 5-11. Very disappointing season. Last place in the AFC West. Heath, is there a position that looks sort of uncertain right now on the Chargers offensively? Well, are they going to franchise Hunter Henry?

Because if they bring back Hunter Henry, then they've got a good tight end. They've got a good running back. They've got one and a half good wide receivers. Yeah, they need a quarterback. And the problem is, we've been criticized by Bills fans, I think, for like five years

for liking Tyrod Taylor more than they did. And by me, on behalf of Bills fans. I think Tyrod Taylor could get the Chargers to the playoffs. I think Tyrod Taylor could be a good quarterback against the right matchups because of his running ability and finish the year if he played 16 games as a top 12 fantasy option, especially in four-point-per-pass touchdown leagues.

But I am terrified that Tyrod Taylor is going to murder the fantasy value for Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. So for that reason, I would say they need a quarterback. Unfortunately, I think they're probably going to draft a quarterback that's not named Joe Burrow and is not named Tua. And so that quarterback's almost certainly going to be bad in their rookie year and maybe just moving forward. I don't think there's a position that the Chargers need that they are going to be bad in their rookie year and maybe just moving forward. I don't think there's a position

that the Chargers need that they are going to adequately address this offseason. Well, offensively, you mean? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Please no Tyrod Taylor. Well, he's almost certainly going to start week one, I think. Yeah.

Well, please not that long. I'll help them have a chance of getting Trevor Lawrence. You know, I think that they should be in win-now mode. They were a trendy Super Bowl pick going into the year. They had a horrible season. I liked them. I liked them a lot last year. A lot of people did, and there's still a lot of talent there. So they should, I mean, they should

really be looking at the veteran quarterbacks, in my opinion, on the free agent market. They have a veteran quarterback who has a winning record in his career. What's wrong with Tyrod Taylor? Dave, did you say that would help them get to. They're not making the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor as their quarterback. I disagree. He's the second best quarterback in the division.

That's not saying a whole lot about the behind car. I just get behind car. I think you overrate. I think you overrate. And also, I just I don't think there's enough of a sample. I think you overrate. I think you overrate the tires. And also, I just I don't think there's enough of a sample. I don't think that we can say for certain that he's going to favor running backs and tight ends. I know that's your case to be made from his bills days, but I think it just would be horrible for everyone. They have a lot of talent on offense.

They have too many cooks in the kitchen and they have a quarterback who's just not gonna throw the ball that much so it would be just awful for everyone i think that's like it's very fair to say he is not going to throw the ball as much as philip rivers and he will scramble more often than philip rivers but he was only running like 80 or not like it's not like he was running 150 or 160 times this was just a product of he played on a Buffalo team that played slow and handed the ball off to their running backs a ton. If they design an offense that has 600 pass attempts in it, maybe he only throws 560 instead of 600. But he's still going to throw the ball a lot.

If Tyra Taylor's their starting quarterback, then the Chargers should draft a running back fairly early and just ground and pound their way to the playoffs. They can go to the playoffs with him because he doesn't turn the ball over, but they're not going there on the strength of Tyrod Taylor's arms. He ain't throwing 600 passes.

That's my take. Obviously, we'll see what happens. What type of a quarterback would you want them to get to feel good about Kean allen thomas brady tom yeah a drop back passer because yeah i i agree with that concern there's no way keenan allen especially who's it was a volume receiver and now has more competition than he kind of ever did mike williams is you know progressing he didn't have a great year last year in touchdowns, but made some really good plays down the field. Hunter Henry, if he's back, there is more competition than he's had historically.

He's a volume receiver. He needs targets. I'm really concerned about Keenan Allen and the way this offense might look this year. What if I gave you one other name? Tua Tongvaloa. Tyrod can start. They're going to go with the 42 quarterback move where they've got Tyrod Taylor to take the torch to, and then to pass it to, to take torch, take the torch to Tyrod.

Taylor takes the torch to, to attack of ILOA is an unbelievably T-heavy sentence right there. I still think it'd be trouble for Keenan Allen. I think it would be better that way than a year's worth of Tyrod Taylor. Man, you guys hate Tyrod Taylor. Well, and drafting Tua might mean a year's worth of Tyrod Taylor because we don't know how healthy his hip is.

Everything coming out of Indianapolis was that his hip is going to be okay. You think he's going to play healthy in 2020? I think he could. He's got a pro day in two weeks. If he goes through that whole pro day just fine and doctors check him out, and most importantly, let's say the Chargers doctors check him out and they feel good about it. Not that I would trust the Chargers doctors based on the injuries

that they've had over the past couple of seasons. We should qualify something. Go ahead. This is March 9th, correct? Yes. I believe when he was at the Combine, today is the day that Tua said he expected to be cleared. Okay. So probably after this podcast, you guys are going to, or before you listen to the podcast.

Someone will say, Tua's fine. That's great. Nothing this morning yet. And I'd be stunned if we heard bad news on the hip between now and the draft. And the Chargers would have to move up in the draft together. Let's go to the Denver Broncos. Alright. The Broncos were 7-9. They were second tied with the Raiders, second in the

AFC West. They did win four of their last five games. Dave Richard, what do the Broncos need? I don't know why I said Jets there. They need to move up to four. The Jets don't have four. Look, Denver's good at quarterback. At least they say they are with Drew Locke. Running back, they like Phillip Lindsey, but there's the report from Nine News out there in Denver that they're going to do their due diligence on the free agent crop of running backs to compliment Lindsey. So probably a bad thing for Royce Freeman. Sutton's locked in

at wide receiver. They could probably use another wide receiver there. Maybe a slot receiver is specifically what they need because Noah Fant is more receiver than tight end. They might add another blocker type if they cut Jeff Hireman. Hireman will save them about $4 million. Joe Flacco, when they cut him, that'll save them $10 million. That'll put them over $70 million in cap space, which they'll need to help out their offensive line. Their center, Connor McGovern, is going to be a free agent. He was their highest-rated pass blocker, according to Pro Football Focus last year. Ronald Leary is already gone.

Their defense needs a lot of work, and they got a jump start with A.J. Boye. Von Miller could get traded. He's got a $25 million cap number. It depends on what Denver can get back for him. I don't know what the interior of that defensive line is going to look like either, but there's going to be some moving parts here, but this offense, I think the key figures for fantasy are locked in. That's Lindsey as the 1A back. Sutton potentially is the number one

receiver, unless they make a huge splash there. Noah Fant is a very, very trendy breakout tight end. The Broncos have really failed year after year to create a good offensive line. You know, they just they keep missing. So they'll probably address that again. The all right, let's compare them to like the Jets, who also have a horrible offensive line,

but some good young talent. Which team do you think has a better chance to really take off? Take off Jets to really take off offensively in 2020. the Broncos or the Jets? Ben? I want to say the Jets because I think Darnold, you know, his season here in 2019 was really derailed by Mono, but I think he's a little further along than Drew Locke, and I think a lot of it flows to the quarterback. But I don't trust Adam Gates.

I mean, I think if you give me only these options, I'm going to lean to the Broncos. Guys, what do you think? Jets or Broncos? I'll say Broncos for pretty much the same reason. Okay. Yeah. This might be the last year that we get to say Sam Darnold has great talent that we just need someone to unlock. This is a huge year for him as a starting quarterback. They're probably starting to think about the position next year if it's another year under seven yards per attempt. This might be the last year we talk about John Elway making draft picks,

but here's just a note from an ESPN article about the offensive line. They haven't had a pro bowler since 2014. That was on the offensive line. That was Peyton Manning's. That was a great year for Peyton Manning. And the last season, a healthy Peyton Manning was behind center. And they have not had their five offensive linemen start 16 games in a season since 2011. They've just had so many injuries that have derailed their plans on the line.

The Kansas City Chiefs, they need to get fitted for their Super Bowl rings. They went 12-4 with the sixth fewest rushing attempts per game in the NFL. We know what they are. Fifth best passing team in the NFL, and that was with Mahomes missing some time. Fifth highest scoring team in the NFL. So, Ben, what do the Chiefs need in the offseason? Well, they need cap space almost more than anything. And I expect that Sammy Watkins will be gone because of that.

They don't have a lot of other ways to free up cap space. They are probably going to look at running back and make some decisions there. Obviously, they still have Damian Williams, but he didn't stay healthy last year. They have some young guys behind him, and Darrell Williams and Darwin Thompson, but it wouldn't surprise me to see them add somebody.

And actually, Damian Williams is someone that, you know, I don't expect this to happen, but only has like a $500,000 cap hit, and and they could save 2.3 million if they let him go and tried to replace him with a bigger name at running back or someone they felt could be healthier um they are a team that you know doesn't have a ton of needs they obviously just won the super bowl so they could add you know a rookie running back i think that would make some sense to just kind of round out their offense and they did it with cream Hunt a couple years ago, which didn't work out. But it wouldn't surprise me to see them go that route again with this class.

But, yeah, they absolutely need to find a wide receiver to replace Sammy Watkins if Watkins walks. He played inside and outside, and I don't think that would be a huge impact player. You still have Kelsey. You still have Hill. And you still are going to have Nicole Hardman probably expanded to being the number three in the passing game so i'm thinking like a demarcus robinson type who is probably going to walk as well away from the chiefs or chris conley if you go back somebody who's playing a lot but maybe not a consistent fantasy producer and just looking at the free agent list you know it could be like a richard higgins who can play inside and outside or nelson aguilar or somebody like that a veteran you can just bring in and kind of add to fill out your

your receiver core that's that's how i would play it if i was them so it seems like the players that could be impacted would be mccall hardman and maybe darwin thompson you know like guys that we want to see have a bigger role in their second season? And will the Chiefs bring in veterans or maybe rookies to take some of their opportunities away? What do you think, guys? Could Damian Williams be affected? Oh, certainly. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I believe, I'm going to double check right now. I believe this is the contract year for Damian Williams. So they could go as far as drafting a running back, and that'll be their guy long term. Might not be their guy this year. Heath, I don't know that we ever got your opinion on this, but true or false, Damian Williams should have won Super Bowl MVP.

100%, and he was robbed. And I don don't know it's going to be interesting like i guess i fully expect the chiefs are going to add a running back and probably multiple wide receivers this offseason but the amount of resources that they spend on those two things are going to tell us a lot more than we currently know like I wouldn't be all that surprised if they were completely comfortable going into the year with Damian, Daryl, Darwin, and then just another guy. A seventh round pick or a UDFA or a LaShawn McCoy-like free agency addition. Because I think probably unless they're really comfortable in me, Cole Hardman in a bigger role and not just the shot guy, they probably need to worry more about that number two wide receiver role than they do about adding to the running back room. All right,

let's go to our last team, the Las Vegas Raiders. Who do I give this one to Heath? Yeah, go for it. Raiders obviously need a quarterback. They are fine at running back. They've got a good tight end.

They need a number one wide receiver, but only if they're going to get a quarterback. And it's interesting. They obviously need a quarterback. He's not that bad. I don't know what to do with the fact that you are so down on Tyrod Taylor and you're trying to convince me that Derek Carr is not that bad. What is better about Tyrod Taylor?

If you think the Chargers don't need a quarterback but the Raiders do, I just don't know why people hate Derek Carr so much. He's really not that bad. He's perfectly fine. No, he's not. It's nice to be back in line with Heath. It feels uncomfortable to be just constantly

disagreeing with Heath, but I'm glad I'm back in line. He used to be my favorite analyst. Remember, that was last week I said you were my favorite analyst. I think the interesting part of that is Derek Carr and the way he plays quarterback is extremely valuable to Waller. And it's was probably largely responsible for the second half breakout that we

didn't talk about too much from Hunter Renfro. And so if Carr is back, I'd almost rather them just go with Tyrell Williams, Renfro and Darren Waller. I think Renfro and Waller can both be good in that situation. But if they want to actually have a good offense, then you go get a quarterback and you draft a wide receiver really early and you could possibly have one.

That's my two biggest needs. I think Tyrell would be more valuable to them if he had somebody at number one on the other side. Okay. Yeah, there's number one on the other side. Okay. Yeah, there's a lot on the line, Dave. I think that Darren Waller might have the most to lose because you know they wanted Antonio Brown, obviously, and Waller's value instantly went up after they got rid of Antonio Brown, and Waller had a great season. He was, I think, fourth in non-PPR, second in P PPR could not find the end zone, unfortunately,

but not really his fault. Um, but do you worry that they bring in a wide receiver and Waller's value really takes a hit with, including the, you know, what we saw from Hunter Renfro down the stretch, as he mentioned,

can you imagine him somehow being more efficient than he was last year? A 77% catch rate? But the touchdowns, Waller had the third most targets, the second most catches, the second most yards, and the 19th most touchdowns. I can't imagine he gets to those numbers again in

2020 with improved additions in the offense. He's going to have to make up for it in touchdowns. And I don't know if he's catching seven plus touchdowns. So I, I think he could be somebody else that gets overdrafted. I agree. And Hunter Renfro,

you know, as he came on late in the year and the slot started to take away from Waller, that was a big thing. Like in DFS late in the year, when Renfro was active and he was in and out of the lineup a little bit, you didn't play Waller. You didn't want to play Waller because he was cutting into Waller's target so much in the

short area of the field. And then as Heath said, Derek Carr just doesn't push the ball down the field or is incapable. I don't know. I mean, that's the reason I don't think you can ultimately win with him. He's not a guy that is able to take shots and get you back in games. He just dinks and dunks and dinks and dunks. If they have a different quarterback under center, that obviously impacts Waller. It impacts Renfro. But yeah, it's funny. This is the third team we've talked about that tried to acquire Antonio Brown in the last year, just on today's show. I think they're going to add a number one wide receiver. And I think Tyrell Williams is more of a deep threat. And then you have Waller and Renfro underneath. And that's a pretty good setup for a quarterback that's willing to push the ball down the field.

And for the record, I completely agree with you about Derek Carr. He's too conservative, and you can't win a Super Bowl with him. But he's not that bad. In most years, he might be the best free agent quarterback on the market if he were a free agent. A lot of teams would be happy to have Derek Carr, I think. You would just need a really good defense, probably, if you wanted to go far. Would they take him or would they take Bridgewater? Bridgewater does the same.

Kind of similar, I know. It almost comes down to who you get for less. I haven't seen Teddy Bridgewater fail near as much, so I'd be more interested in having him just to see if maybe he could be a little better than Carr. He's probably more accurate. I don't have any hope that Derek Carr's ever going to be good.

He was a legit MVP candidate. Like, what was that, four years ago? 2006. Whenever he broke his leg, he had 3,937 yards, 28 touchdowns, six interceptions. As I recall, that was 2016 in 15 games. It was a bit of a weak year for MVP, at least for the race. But that was his third year, and that was going to shape up to be more than 4,000 yards, about 30 touchdowns,

and less than 10 interceptions. That was a good quarter. And that would have been the second straight year where he basically did that. You brought up the injury, and then he hurt his back really bad another year. Did that change who he is? Because he used to be able to support both Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree down the field. Yeah, I don't know.

Maybe. Those guys had a lot of touchdowns. That's my speech. That's part of the reason why he was able to support them. Okay. I just want to know before we go, like why Ben, don't you want to be in the fantasy baseball league? I will.

I don't, I don't play a ton of fancy baseball, but I mean, I play it, but, um, you just listen to Heath. He's just craps all over the league.

And the problem is it runs into football season. No, not this one. This one ends is the, I'm the commissioner. I do things right. This one ends in August, I'm the commissioner. I do things right. This one ends in August. We don't even play in September.

Maybe the first week. It's a little more enticing. Yeah, there you go. If you think about it, you and Shaggy B can share a team. The Benz. Case of the Benz. There you go.

There's a team name. All right, we're out of here, everybody. Like Benz, you know. Okay, so for Heath and Dave and Ben I'm Adam we got more team needs tomorrow on the show

until then nah nah Dave nah bye