Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - 10 Tips & Tricks to Win Your League - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/13

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Aug 13, 2025. League-winning tips and advice! Andy, Mike, and Jason deliver lessons learned and actionable tips for fantasy football managers! Don’t miss this special episo...de headed into your drafts and the 2025 season! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2025 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT + Draft Analyzer available now at UltimateDraftKit.com(00:00) Intro(06:25) NFL News(15:10) 10 Tips and Tricks to Win Your League(16:03) Number 10  (23:24) Number 9(26:03) Number 8(32:58) Number 7(38:22) Number 6(42:26) Number 5(47:39) Number 4(53:00) Number 3(57:54) Number 2(1:01:00) Number 1Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Fantasy Footballer Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, it's good to be back with you for this special episode. Wednesday, August 13th. It's the tap 10. Gifts and tricks. Coming to you live. I'm a case of gazing.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Nice. Very nice. My daughter doesn't know it yet, but she's getting a CD player for her. Oh. A compact disc player? A compact disc player, which I have... Are we talking Walkman style? Like on the hip?
Starting point is 00:01:04 Or are we talking boom-ba? Boom-ba. Jason, that'll be called a discman. Thank you. Oh, man. I'm sorry. But my eyes have been open that the CD world is alive. It's well.
Starting point is 00:01:14 It's thriving. We don't think it's thriving. We don't need those. I don't know how thriving is the right word, but look, everything comes out on CD still. But nobody has anything to play the CDs on. And so she wanted one. and it was very fun to shop for a boom box
Starting point is 00:01:31 for the first time in 20 years I feel like CDs are like they made a tech jump you know from we go from so vinyl sounds the best look nerds it does yeah it does
Starting point is 00:01:43 and then cassette tape still has some of the warmth because it's an analog and then you go to CD which is very convenient yeah digital you can switch tracks all those things
Starting point is 00:01:52 convenient yeah right that's what it's stood for exactly but it's like Once you make that jump to a digital tech where it has the convenience, why, I understand why people go back to vinyl, but why go back to CD when you can just stream? That's interesting to me. I want that digital sound difficulty. If you get the record player, which we have a record player, I love vinyl.
Starting point is 00:02:18 But if you buy vinyl, it's like 40, 50 bucks for the vinyl. That's not the issue. The issue I have with vinyl is it's like 40 or 50 seconds aside. Yeah. Well, that is, that is a hard part. What do you get three songs? That's what it feels like. I'm like, I'm going to put on this vinyl and do some tissues or something.
Starting point is 00:02:34 It's like, I got to come half the time. I'm just flipping the vinyl over. Yeah, that's true. But you can buy a CD still for like 10 bucks. So it's like, I don't know, she wanted to get into it. Hey, okay. So that's, I don't even remember what that came from, but that's what we're doing. Welcome in.
Starting point is 00:02:50 We've got a top 10. Oh, it was from Casey Gaysom. That's where we were. We were back to the Gasey Gasey. Back to the radio vibes. For you young children out there, Casey Kasso was a radio host who was famous for his top ten countdowns. With a cool voice like that.
Starting point is 00:03:08 He, I mean, was, still is. No. Well, he is gone, but I'm saying they just replay his shows. Oh, okay. That makes far more sense. They're like, hey, throw that on. Passed away June 15, 2014. Yeah, Casey.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Also, the voice of Shaggy. Did not know that? Yeah, we didn't. know that. We've got the top... If I ever go to a trivia night, don't bring me off my list. Don't bring me. Goodness gracious. Today's a very fun episode. It is the 11th time we've done the top 10 tips and tricks, which I guess means we have 110 tips and tricks that we've revealed over the years. I love this show because this whole podcast is built around the concept of equipping you to make
Starting point is 00:03:51 like great decisions in your league context. Yeah, think about things a little differently. So we have some new things that we want to bring forward to pay attention to. Kyle the Borgogan himself, who helps us on show doc prep and with these tips and tricks that we came up with, helps us research them. And he said that he hates it because apparently this is the one episode a year that some of his league mates listen to of our show. Apparently they don't listen to the other ones. I don't know why. That's why he wins.
Starting point is 00:04:22 But this is the one they listen to. and so we will break down 10 tips and tricks to help you win your league on today's show. And we've got a mock draft episode coming tomorrow morning. Any of my guys episode coming on Friday. Oh, man. So it is jam-packed. It is time for football. The big announcement.
Starting point is 00:04:42 The UDK for Life giveaway. It is coming soon. So you need to pick up the ultimate draft kit. You know you're going to get it. If you already got it, you're entered to win. But we're giving away a UDK for life and a C giveaway. signed Jamar Chase Jersey. We're doing that on Monday
Starting point is 00:04:58 during a live event. We'll be answering your questions and giving those items away on a Monday live stream. So all you got to do is... If you don't have the ultimate draft kit yet, if you don't know what that is, you're hopping back in, that is our resource for draft day and for the
Starting point is 00:05:14 whole draft season. There's research and articles, 100 player profile videos you can watch leading up to it. It's basically like little mini podcasts on every single relevant player out there, but all of our tiered breakdowns, all of our sleepers, values, breakouts, busting, guys to avoid, everything that we do the whole offseason. That's in the ultimate draft kit. It's a great resource. It's proven to help make your draft better,
Starting point is 00:05:40 set a good foundation. So if you're thinking about getting it, might as well get it by Monday so maybe you get it for the rest of your life. No, that'd be great. And I was using one of the tools to develop one of my tips today, just some insights from it. But, yeah, 75,000 original words of content within the UDK. What, Stephen King write this thing? 75,000 words of analysis. Feels like a little much. It does feel like too much.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Like, if you say it like that, how many thousands, too much is that for you, Jason? How many total is it? 75,000. Yeah, are all the non-readers out there, like, oh, never mind. That's why we got the videos. That's what we got videos, we'll read. We'll read it to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:20 So there you go. UltimateDraftKit.com to check that out. We're going to jump right into the news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by progressive insurance. I want Al Borland to throw in that last piece of information on the UDK that you just threw in that. Because it's probably a fair thing to disclose at this point. I said, at no haters, we did not use AI.
Starting point is 00:06:44 We hire real people. Yes. It is all 75,000 words. written by non-robots. That's right. Yeah, that's a good... I'm not entirely sure, Kyle's not a robot. Kyle's as close as you can get.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Right. Okay. We've got close to robots. We've got close to robots. Yeah, it's like, see, I, it's close to intelligent. Right. All right, we got big news. Oh! Just yesterday we were talking about James Cook, who was back at practice.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Talks were good. They were discussing things, so he came back to practice. Talks were very good. Yeah, what did it mean? four-year extension worth $48 million, $30 million guaranteed. James Cook is their guy. It just shows peculiar whining works. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Look, it's one of those things where you're like, you've got to advocate for yourself as a player. You got to take the leverage when you can get it. But at the same time, his mechanism, his method was so odd that you kind of like, dang it, why'd that work? Right. Is that a template? We're going to, like, fake, go out on the practice field.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Is that going to, and then you get $30 million? The template is go score 16 rushing touchdowns the year prior. Be awesome in the playoffs and help you stay in your games. And then you can do that. Like, I'm surprised that two of the deucers are not, like, walking out right now as a way to try to get a raise. They know that we'll just say goodbye. You know how many people want your jobs? It's so strange.
Starting point is 00:08:17 because this is how the Cowboys do it too why do we wait so long? Like If we're going to do it? If you're going to do it, just get to it. I've got an answer for that. Okay, what's your... At least, maybe not in the Cowboys case because they have restructured DACPrescott
Starting point is 00:08:33 five times. Yeah, because they've wasted money and they screw up. Every big contract. And maybe this is a screw up by Buffalo 2. Maybe this is the exact number that James Cook wanted in the beginning. But I don't think it is. I think James Cook came with a much bigger number and this is the way the back and forth negotiation goes and you finally get to a place where it's like look
Starting point is 00:08:49 you want to be that guy you want to get in there take a little less we'll go up a little bit let's do it now I'm not saying there's not negotiations I'm saying why does it like you would have known as soon as last season concluded
Starting point is 00:09:03 hey look at our guys look who needs to get paid and look how skill players go like if I'm a running back and I have no more true like I only have this season and this is my time to cash in and I can get hurt
Starting point is 00:09:17 this is what I'm going to do and it's just it's such a stupid dog and pony you're basically saying why doesn't the team take seriously the threats earlier in the off season and they it's just human nature
Starting point is 00:09:28 or you gotta watch it happen or yeah we just procrastinate yeah we got to watch them mispractice my only idea is like are the teams doing the exact same that we the exact same thing we do in fantasy football where it's like do your draft as late as possible
Starting point is 00:09:42 because guys get hurt And they're like, we're going to watch you during the off season. And we don't want to sign you to a contract in February. And then in April, you're training and you get hurt. It's a game of chicken. It's a contract chicken. Outside of Dallas. Dallas's-old men run these teams.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah, outside of Dallas. And I would also say outside of the Bengals. Those two organizations are run by some egos up top that get in the way of the money. But here, it's just a matter of I'm sure that James Cook would not have agreed to this deal at the very beginning. I agree. I think it was, you know, they're getting closer to the season and they both start sweating and then they meet in the middle. That's why the Eagles are the best-run organization.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You don't want to miss game checks. They go out when you don't even expect someone to get an extension yet and go, hey, hey, how would you like this money? Well, the Bears did it with DJ Moore? That sounds great. Sign me up. And then they're ahead of the game. Naji Harris returned to jogging and individual football drills in yesterday's practice.
Starting point is 00:10:37 A good soft jog. I honestly don't. I mean, I don't understand maybe this is just. ramp up from inactivity. I don't understand how... Where's Darren Waller? What's that guy up to? We haven't heard from Darren Waller yet. That's a big ramp. But Naji is jogging individual football drills.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I mean, I hope his eyes okay. After that jogging. Greg Roman came out and said that Omari and Hampton will rotate with another back in week one, even if Naji Harris isn't available. And then said, we don't... Sure he will. He's like, we don't know who that's going to be yet. That's up for...
Starting point is 00:11:12 That's up for competition. But, yeah, Ladd-McConkie back to 11-on-11s yesterday. He said he feels like he's close to 100%. We saw Nick Chubb and Damian Pierce, who's back and fully healthy. They're splitting first team reps in Houston. So we've talked about Woody Marks. Damian Pierce was on the shelf. Right now, Damian Pierce is back.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And so that kind of throws some cold water on Woody Marks having really a chance to emerge there, I think. Because Chub and Pierce, like Pierce, I know you guys. or Jason in particular want to dump on Pierce all the time. This was a player that ran for 5.7 a carry last year. When he actually had the opportunity to rush the football, he was 5.7 a carry. Between the two of them, they can handle the business if Joe Mixing him misses time.
Starting point is 00:11:59 We hope he doesn't miss time. Day three running backs always take a long time to work their way up the depth chart. AJ Brown, not participating in joint practices. Again, it's been a hamstring injury. I hate this. I had moved. Jay Brown up and he instantaneously got hurt because I was really excited about the potential
Starting point is 00:12:18 of that passing game for both guys to really improve. I'd like to see him get back to practice because he's missing. And he had gone back, he got back to limited. He got back to limited. But these are joint practices today. So I don't, it sounds scary to me when I first read it, where it was like if you get back limited, like I think I can start working my way back from the hamstring injury and then you don't practice. It's like, did you pull something? But this is now joint practices where maybe he's back in a limited fashion, but he's not going to go all out against another team. And that's probably for the best. Shadoor Sanders, oblique injury when throwing. So he's going to be possibly missing more time.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And that's a huge issue because he needs the preseason games to put it on display. I had seen a blur of the Browns of like, Dylan Gabriel will start if he's healthy enough. Otherwise it's going to be Shadour Sanders. I don't know what they'll do if they're both hurt. what did they sign, Huntley, was it? Oh, did they pick? They have six quarterbacks on the roster. That is not a joke. They have six.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Really going the shotgun approach. And I don't, you know, yeah, I don't know what they're going to do. Breece Hall, he had a comment on the Kyron and James Cook contracts. Don't forget Deshaun Watson still on that team. He was one of the six. So, Bruce Hall said of the Kyron and James Cook contracts, they've done more than me. They're in better situations. I feel like I'm just as talented, but those guys deserve their payday and what they
Starting point is 00:13:41 that is it's really sad it's a disgruntled player what isn't he is not gruntled this isn't a compliment sandwich because it starts off or is it no they've done more than me yeah it's a compliment sandwich they're a better situation good work grease just as talented but they deserve their payday it's a nice thing to say i like that they've been in better situations just he's just taking a shot at his own team yeah he does feel like a player that is on the outside of the inner circle but at the same time You know, you talked about it, Justin Fields, throwing to the running back position. There's still a world where he's highly productive and they're going to play the best players.
Starting point is 00:14:18 So it's not the world we're drafting him in where he's going right now, but it's still possible for him to be productive. At least you know he is playing for a contract. And he knows. And he's talented. He's out there right now this year. And what he does, what he puts on the field will determine what his market value is because he knows he's going to market. And so that's how I want my, you know, fantasy players. hungry for money
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Starting point is 00:14:55 limits and conditions well we'll take a quick early break because I just want to get into the tips and tricks which we'll do in just a minute All right, like I said this is the 11th time that we have done a tips and tricks episode. There is a digital copy of our 55. Did you do it?
Starting point is 00:15:23 I don't know. I guess I thought one of you guys were going to do it. You got your hands on the box. It's on me. 55 tips and tricks. It's like a pump fake. I'm going to push it. Why aren't you pushing the button?
Starting point is 00:15:34 I'm going to push it. My finger over the button is never prohibited or stops anybody from hitting anything ever. Thank you. But that digital book is available for all Foot Clan members at join thefoot.com. It's time to get into it. Tips and tricks. Well, here we go. We are into our top 10 tips and tricks to win your league for 2025, starting with number 10.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I'm going to go with this. Here's my tip. Grab a few mystery bags. All right. Grab a few mystery bags. My son in the last several weeks has gotten me into Pokemon card collecting in a very small way. Oh, collecting. That's what they call it.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And so we open these packs together and sometimes, you know, the expression that Mike brings up all the time, maybe it's a boat. Mm-hmm. Sometimes you get a hit, right? And my tip for fantasy players today I alluded to it last week grab a few mystery bags and what I'm talking about is rookie players
Starting point is 00:16:49 from round six to the end of the draft. Because that is where you're getting into a place in fantasy football where sometimes it feels like the right thing to do is dial in some veteran known names and commodities
Starting point is 00:17:08 that seem like they're going to maybe be able to bounce back. And I'll just highlight last year what those names were. It was Nick Chubb in the 8th, Zach Moss in the 8th, Marquis, Hollywood Brown in the 8th, Giovante Williams in the 8th. But sitting there in the middle of the 8th round as well, Ladd-McConkie. All right. And that's what we're talking about with the mystery bag opportunity that you have in drafts. This is something I've done more and more over the years, in part by necessity.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Sometimes you play in leagues, you trade away earlier round picks. You have less opportunity in the middle rounds. And I want somebody that is going to give me a chance at being a true hit. Last year, Brock Bowers is another example. This was a late seventh round pick. People were dialing in Kyle Pitts ahead of him and a bunch of other opportunities. Every year there are players like this, we just don't know what the rookie is going to be. And not every rookie is going to work out.
Starting point is 00:18:03 But time and time again, we see these later round opportunities. You know, Jalen Waddle was a ninth round pick when he came out and had an over 100 catch rookie season. Justin Jefferson was an 11th round pick. We were worried about him. It was Ola B.C. Johnson and he was behind other players in the depth chart due to
Starting point is 00:18:20 the preseason. Brian Thomas Jr. Last year was a ninth round pick. You know, you have rookie running backs in, you know, historically, David Johnson, Jeremy Hill, Lev Bell, Antonio Gibson, Miles Sanders, Kenneth Walker.
Starting point is 00:18:36 These were all players drafted outside the first six rounds in lieu of some of these old heads that we think are going to bounce back and give you an opportunity. On average, three rookie wide receivers per year. This is the big stat here that I want to have stand out for you. On average, three rookie wide receivers per year, drafted round six or later end up as top 24 wide receivers. I want a chance at a boat. I want a chance. It's a gambling man. I want to gamble because the upside is so tremendous.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I need a, we play to win. Mike has been on the don't play scared situation. You're not going to hit on every one of those players. But when you hit, that hit can be very, very valuable. It can bring you forward several rounds of ADP value more than these other players that are drafted in the later rounds. This year, a good example. Tyler Warren's a ninth round pick.
Starting point is 00:19:31 You're going to dial in Tyler Warren? you're going to dial in somebody like Dalton Kincaid in the 10th round. Like there are opportunities to, or Jason would probably say, look, Tyler Warren, a few picks after Evan Ingram? Do we know what Evan Ingram's ceiling kind of is? Right.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Does he still have it at 31 years old? And I'll be clear, like Addison was another situation as a rookie. Jordan Addison was like a ninth round pick. Sometimes you're going to get Traylen Berks. And I'm sorry for you if that happens. But sometimes you get Addison. Sometimes you open the mystery box and it's something
Starting point is 00:20:02 four, five, six, seven rounds better than what you meant to take. And if you shoot your shot on multiples in terms of the rookies, I think you're going to hit on one and it's going to be worth it. Even if it's a 50% shot, to me, that has been very, very valuable
Starting point is 00:20:19 because when a rookie, here's the other last caveat, when a rookie starts to break out, or they give you a game, or they give you some potential early in the season, let's say you spent three or four picks on rookies late in the draft, everybody believes it.
Starting point is 00:20:32 everybody buys in it's it's trade capital it's excitement you know garrett wilson was a late pick yeah so these are players that you take you don't necessarily see the path maybe they sit a little bit further behind the depth chart i think that's a huge part of it is not seeing the path which is part of why those rookies then go there like when garret wilson was drafted i think he was 10th overall right around there and it goes to the jets like they yeah same with waddle in Miami they stunk. And exactly the same thing with Jan Wado. The dolphins stink. We can't possibly see
Starting point is 00:21:06 a way forward for that. So their ADP is real low. You get rookies like Malik neighbors and Marf where you're like, oh, I see the path of this really highly drafted rookie turning into something special. But it's like these, like Waddle was what, the fourth or fifth pick overall.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And you, we often let the situation. To a terrible team. Just completely push you off of like, it's impossible. Look at the situation last year with Malik Neighbors v. Brian Thomas Jr. Malik Neighbors' path so clear and obvious, everyone knew it. Brian Thomas was like, man, Christian Kirk. Christian Kirk is there. Evan Ingram is there. It's a bad team. Is Trevor
Starting point is 00:21:46 Lawrence good enough? I don't know. And that's why he was in the ninth round. Do you see the names that were drafted around Brian Thomas before and after him? I do not. DeAndre Hopkins. I would take Brian Thomas. Christian Watson. Yeah? Gus. I mean, Brian Thomas finished. is a top five-hundred seemer so he's probably one of the best picks last year two and goddard so like and part of the evaluation needs to be just just talent just talent just like betting on talent will help you more than it will hurt you yeah and in the depth chart figures itself out when talent is on display so uh grab a few mystery backs number nine this tip is called the pendulum swings
Starting point is 00:22:30 every year. And we talk about this from year to year that whatever happens last year is what everyone expects to happen next year, except that doesn't happen this year. That happened two years ago, four years from now. And I want to focus on what we saw last year, what worked last year, what didn't work, and how to take advantage of it for this year. So last year, the early first round, we only had three running backs drafted. It was super wide receiver heavy because that's what worked two years ago. That meant that all the stud running backs were pushed down. Saquan Barkley, Derek Henry, Jemir Gibbs, Kairn Williams.
Starting point is 00:23:08 These were the league winners last year, and they were all drafted at the very end of the first or most of them into the second round as people were gobbling up wide receivers. And the second round, the rest of the second round, when you were getting kind of the second tier of wide receivers, they all busted. Then last year happened. It played out. and it wasn't the wide receivers that everyone was drafting early that dominated, but it was the running backs that dominated.
Starting point is 00:23:32 The running backs just stayed healthier last year than they usually do. The top wide receivers got injured more than they usually. C.D. Lamb was injured. Pooka was injured. AJ Brown. Chris Olave. Or they just disappointed. Tyree Kill was the number one pick.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Poof. He stunk. Marvin Harrison was supposed to be the hotness in the first round. It turned out he was a bust pick. And so what that means is we try to do whatever won last year. So this year, since running backs won last year, we should all draft running backs. Everyone's drafting running backs.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Look at the average draft position. It's saying that's what won last year, running backs. So grab the running backs. Except that isn't how life happens. Life is chaotic year to year. And while it could absolutely repeat, running backs could be the best. It could also be the opposite. But what we know is that the draft cost is going to follow the pendulum.
Starting point is 00:24:19 The pendulum and whatever happened last year. So this year, not surprisingly, is therefore the opposite of last year. on average, across all platforms, there are only three wide receivers being drafted inside the top 10 ADP, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, and C.D. Lamb, you know, on average from platform to platform. And everybody's focusing on the running backs again. So my recommendation this year is go against that grain. If you're a late round first, you know, if you're a second half of the first round draft pick, I'm going to go against the grain. I'm going to focus on the top wide receivers that are being pushed down, not because they are better, but because they're the
Starting point is 00:24:57 better bet, statistically speaking. Instead of first round running backs and second round running backs that now have yellow flags, a lot of them, like Ashen Genty, okay, I know he's the hotness, but he's got some yellow flags. We talked about this on the running back show. He's a rookie on a bad offense that we haven't seen before. Jonathan Taylor, Bucky Irving, maybe even CMC. These guys are right now, I think, being overdrafted, but what is more important is that's pushing the value down on wide receivers. So Ammon Rae St. Brown, Puka, Neighbors, Nico Collins, Brian Thomas Jr., A.J. Brown, Drake London. They are all being drafted at the 1-10 or later deep into the second round. And I feel like if I'm just looking statistically, not talent
Starting point is 00:25:43 of the player and what I believe, but just like you've got to make bets that you're trying to win the majority of time. It seems like the value to me is there. So in this specific draft, if I'm drafting at the end of the first round, I'm not going to fall trapped to the ADP and draft questionable running backs over stud-wide receivers. Just because that's what running
Starting point is 00:26:02 backs worked out last year. Exactly. Yeah, that makes sense. Number eight. All right, we're going to talk about at risk starters. So last year, we had an episode where it was, players you are embarrassed to love. Okay. And in that episode, I
Starting point is 00:26:18 brought forth Bucky and Tank Bigsby of players like looking at who they were, you know, draft capital for for Bucky. It was a third day running back. Tank is competing with a first round running back and had himself a very embarrassing first year. And so it wasn't necessary that I loved those players in particular. But I looked at the situation and thought, I think the starters could be overtaken. This episode last year when you brought Bucky up
Starting point is 00:26:48 was the first time I believed you about Bucky. Oh. It was, I mean, because in the off season, like the Rashad White thing was working. This was a good team.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Yeah. They were very successful. He caught almost 100% of his passes. Like that was the arguments I was bringing to the table for Ashad White last year. This was the first, but you had always stood up
Starting point is 00:27:05 against his inefficiencies. Yes. And so you're saying that look for situations where the starter themselves by their play, by their performance, by their metrics.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Exactly. years at risk, ETN was another one. You hated Rashad White, you hated ETN, and you were right on both. And I believe he still hates them. Just as people. No, not as fantasy assets. Just like the man. No, I don't have a problem with Rashad White this year.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Like, of the ADP for what he could give you, it's perfectly fine. It's just the, when you buy into a player, especially at the running back position early, and the only true checkmark in their box is they're going to get a ton of volume. They're not going to be very good. those guys are at risk. They can still end up keeping their job. Maybe someone in the, you know, the RB2 is not talented enough to take them off the field. That can happen.
Starting point is 00:27:55 But these are situations that you need to pay attention to. And like the backups, it can take some time. It took Bucky some time to overtake Rashad White. So I'm not necessarily saying these are guys you've got to take in your draft. You know, another one was Tyrone Tracy with Devin Singletary. That was actually another situation. We maybe didn't have as much confidence. confidence in Tracy, but Singletary was definitely an at-risk starter on that team.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah, and so maybe, you know, depending on the size of the bench in your, in your league, you may not want to draft these particular players of these situations, but you need to have your eyes open and be paying attention because, like I said, it may not happen week one or week two, but there are markers of, you know, the efficiency of the starter versus the backup, things like especially targets per route run because look we want pass catching running backs it's so much more valuable than a carry but just you know looking at things like that they're running behind the same offensive line and if the backup is just outperforming the starter by the end of the first month there's a chance that things could switch over so I took a look through the you know every team and I'm just making my best projection of of situations of starters how entrenched how much money are they going to make how good are those players? And I came up with five teams where I thought there could be a transition. And also these situations are different than ambiguous backfields, which we talk about.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Because ambiguous, you don't know who the starter is. These are ones where it's like, we know who they are. We're pretty confident we know who the starter is, especially when you look at ADP. So the Chicago Bears. Yep, DeAndre Swift. Is DeAndre Swift the guy? He mean, he's being paid like it. but Ben Johnson has...
Starting point is 00:29:41 He's not good enough to be deserving of being the guy. He could be taken off, and Kyle Monongai has been getting some buzz. I know he's... Manonagai. You're adding a syllable. It works. Menongai. I mean, look, I love a good monomana joke, but I don't know that...
Starting point is 00:30:01 We'll try it. We'll work on it. But he is getting some... That was good. That was good work. How dare your crows. Well, what I'm hearing at a bear's camp is like... Young guy. Roshan. Manana guy. That's his name though.
Starting point is 00:30:15 That's his name now, Mike. It's not good, man. Okay. So the Bears situation. Andy, we know this is happening. Let it wash over you. Like, Roshan is being talked about as just a specialty goal line player,
Starting point is 00:30:27 which is, it could be interesting, but they're saying like Monongai looks like the RB2. I watched the film. He looked good. He runs really hard. The Cleveland Browns, Jerome Ford, is the entrenched starter because he's the veteran and Quinn Sean Judkins is a knucklehead and is still not a Cleveland Brown.
Starting point is 00:30:45 It's like, okay, maybe Dylan Samson needs to be someone you keep an eye on. The Dallas Cowboys is just, that one is a disaster of, did you guys see the quote about Giovante Williams from the coaching staff, which started with, like, what are you seeing that's good about Javante? Ah, well, he's really mature. He's seen a lot of things in the league. He's mature? He's great with his teammates.
Starting point is 00:31:09 There was, oh, come on, give me something on the field. There was no on-field praise. Meanwhile, Jaden Blue's been getting praise in camp. The Minnesota Vikings. Aaron Jones is the starter. Jordan Mason is going in much, much later. It wouldn't, like, these, what's wild about these is, it's surprising when it happens every time.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yes. And I'm even willing to, I'll be, I will be a man of honor. He is a man of honor. The Seattle Seahawks, if Ken Walker can't stay healthy, if he can't do what they think he's going to do, they have second round running back, Charbonnet, in the wings waiting. These situations, it's probably not going to happen for every single one of them,
Starting point is 00:31:48 but you need to pay attention and you need to be proactive, like a week early. Well, when Waver Day hits and we're focused on, you're like, oh, I'm going to patch up my team with players who are performing right now, sometimes you've got to go with a player who is not really bringing fantasy value, but you can see the C parting in front of them that in a couple of weeks, that's going to be the starter. I am a little disappointed at your cowardice. Oh, what did I forget? Because, you know, you really were anti-Rashad White on his inefficiency. Yes. And you were all,
Starting point is 00:32:22 you've pretty much always said you don't think Travis ETN is that good. Right. But there's another player that you are always like, he's not that good. He's not efficient. And you basically hate him with a raging fire. Yes, yes. Joe Nixon? Yeah, and the Houston Texans are not on this list. The Houston Texans, You're just too afraid of who it would be behind them? I don't think that one fits. I know, but I'm saying Mike. No, no, I think that fits. I honestly don't think it fits as much because I think Joe Mixon is, his job is more secure of when he's back.
Starting point is 00:32:52 He's the dude. They'll let him be the guy. All right. Makes sense. Those are some good opportunities to look at. Number seven. All right. This one is more like, what is this, philosophical?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Maybe just a mental approach to the game. I'm calling it become a stalwart. Now, we've always been of the opinion. You just play fantasy the way you want to play, right? Like, whatever's the most fun for you. Now, for me, it is the pinnacle of fun when I win. It is the pinnacle of fun when I have won the league. I think a lot of people agree with you.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Al Borland himself, has it been fun for you to have won the league of record? There's the trophy. Yeah, it's been pretty great. Yeah, so that is, look. What are you keeping that under the desk for? I think Josh keeps moving it under the desk. Thank you, Josh. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Thank you. But I'm going to talk about being playing the game in a way that is trying to remove the emotional overreactions, to lock in, to become a stalwart. There are two types of situations that really distort decision-making in fantasy, and one of them is the rose-colored glasses and what we think and want to happen, what we want to happen, as opposed to what maybe logic or is. sitting in front of us should happen, or also just like the burns, the fantasy burns, the hyper avoidance of certain players because, well, we don't like that team as much, or maybe we just, that player hurt us in the past. And so what I think is the most advantageous way to have the most fun is to develop your inner stalwart, to be able to have an even-handed approach to fantasy that lets go of some
Starting point is 00:34:27 of those extreme emotional reactions to be able to dig in and win. because what happens is, I mean, there's a lot of examples of this that go well beyond, you know, your last season burns. It's also emotional attachment to the players you draft, right? Like, we all go and we build a roster. We spend all this time in the offseason with the draft kit. You build this perfect team. And so because of that, there's an emotional attachment that happens. Yeah, especially when they win for you.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah. And so sometimes you're unwilling to trade a player away based on the objective realities in front of you or maybe trade for a player. that you thought was bad, that's performing. Like, that's probably the hardest one is to buy, like, oh, I knew that player was going to stink. They have three or four good weeks. You're like, no, I still believe they stink. Well, sometimes the reality is different.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And every year, there are certain players that we go in with maybe excitement or a bad taste in our mouth, like Josh Jacobs after the Las Vegas year. It was like so easy to go into that season thinking this guy might be toast. But the NFL told us that wasn't the case when Green Bay paid him all that money. and his ADP ends up dropping and he ends up the RB5 or in reverse like C.J. Stroud do we all not, we all want C.J.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Stroud to be the next great thing. Yes, we do. That rookie season was amazing and yet Mike kept coming back to the fact that that Cube 11 season was like riddled with, you know, really bad performances, occasional great ones. And then last year he went so high in drafts, ends up the QB18, you were locked in on him early in the season,
Starting point is 00:35:57 thinking it would all be great. That is an emotional. overreaction. That is something you just want to will into being. And throughout the course of a season, you just need to try your very best to look at things with the least emotional reaction possible. Again, fantasy is about fun. If you want to find your perfect balance of emotional reaction and fandom with, you know, kind of being objective, I don't care how you mix that vial. You know what I mean? It's fine. However you want to do it, that makes it the most fun. But I do think the way that gives you the best opportunity to win is trying to be disconnected emotionally from the players on your roster and willing to trade them.
Starting point is 00:36:37 When you go name your team after a player that you drafted, you are not going to trade that player. You're not going to trade that player or give up on them. Because you have to change your name. Rules are rules. Can you trade the name? Could you say I'm going to trade this player and namesake? That's a great idea. okay it should you if you trade the player if you're willing to trade the player you should always trade
Starting point is 00:37:00 the name with it but that would be really confusing halfway through the season all of a sudden that team that's true with that name is like wait i'm playing him again no you're not no i i played him for the first time no i played i played him last week and and it was it was a really roller coaster situation with like mark andrews last year mm-hmm um very emotional at some point in time i did give up right which kind of proved to be the wrong decision but after week one when the entire Earth was overreacting to Isaiah likely. You went back, you watched the film, you calmed down after the game, you saw the opportunities that didn't quite work, and at that point in time, you know, we came out
Starting point is 00:37:38 here and said, look, this looks like a situation that's going to be fine. Don't panic. Now, eventually I panic. Well, because he rewarded your confidence, your confidence, Andy, with four for 51, and then we were safe, and then it was two games of zeros. Once the double goose happened, I don't. definitely dip. I don't, we didn't blame anyone for bailing then. But basically, we just get over attached to players emotionally. We don't trade them. We don't sit them fast enough. That's another thing. You're
Starting point is 00:38:07 like, oh, this will be the week that they do the thing I thought they do in the offseason that maybe isn't really a reality anymore, but I think they'll do it because I believe they do it. So become a stalwart as much as you can to make the best, most objective decisions. Number six. My next tip is to avoid double onesies early in your draft. In fantasy football, we use the term positional advantage all the time. We're describing a quarterback or a tight-in that puts you above your league mates at that position, right? Lamar Jackson, he was the quarterback one. He was better by two points over the quarterback to Brock Bowers, who was a late-round draft pick as the Titan won last year. He was awesome. And for years, it was Travis Kelsey and Josh Allen. It feels so good
Starting point is 00:38:51 to leave your draft stacked at those positions, to grab, you know, this year, Brock Bowers, Trey McBride, you know, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels. These guys are awesome. And I love them. And I'm willing to take every single player I mentioned. But I want to talk about the positional disadvantage that it puts you at at the more important positions if you double up on the onesie position. The opportunity cost, whenever you draft any one of these guys is something significant
Starting point is 00:39:21 that you've got to factor in. If you take Brock Bowers, you are leaving Josh Jacobs, Bucky Irving, Jonathan Taylor, A.J. Brown, and Drake London on the table. You are taking them off of your roster. If you take T. McBride, you are leaving Kyron Williams, Chase Brown,
Starting point is 00:39:37 J.S.N., T. Higgins. Yeah, I did the McBride thing in our last mock, and I did not like what that did to my roster. It can be hard. If you get Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, where they're going, that's another Josh Jacobs, Bucky, Jonathan Taylor. If you grab Jaden Daniels, you're leaving Marion Hampton, Garrett Wilson,
Starting point is 00:39:56 Marvin Harrison. So here's the thing that I'm recommending. If you take one of those guys, any one of those guys, I'll throw Burrow in there as well, you're going to be fine. If you take two, you're really going to be wrecked. The,
Starting point is 00:40:11 what happens if you take two? Let's just have a situation. I took Bowers in the second and Burrow in the fourth. That means my running back two or my wide receiver two is going to be one of these guys because I've got to get multiple of those. My second starting running back will be Isaiah Pacheco or Aaron Jones or D'Andre Swift by ADP. That's going to be in my starting lineup. My second wide receiver is going to be, you know, Xavier Worthy, Zayflowers, Chris Olave. It's going to be hard when you're
Starting point is 00:40:43 starting. You just can't double up those early round. onesy positions because your depth at the far more important position to have depth that when you start multiples plus a flex is very difficult. Now, I think that if you take one of those guys, you know, there are people, there are running backs and wide receivers we really like in rounds five and six that might slip to you. You know, you might grab Travion Henderson or Teterow and McMillan if you're going for the rookies. If Joe Mixon falls for a while and he's your running back to you can probably, you know, be fine with that. It's just tough to try to bank on two of these very rare round five and six wide receivers
Starting point is 00:41:25 that we really like to drop to you to where your running backs and wide receivers are good. So you have the positional advantage at one position that you don't need as much and you sacrifice the far more important position. So I would have recommended to everybody. Avoid the doubles. You will be behind your league mates at the two most important positions if you double-tap onesie positions before the sixth round. No, it's good advice and it is very hard to resist sometimes. Those are big names, big players, most important positions a lot of the time grabbing that
Starting point is 00:41:56 quarterback names that you know. I love grabbing one of those guys as soon as the other guys on the board are like, I've got a lot of question marks on these names. And if there's one of those guys left that are studs that you know there's no question about, grab one of them then and then keep filling out your running back some wide receivers. All right, we'll take a quick break and then count on the top five tips and tricks on today's show. All right, it's time to jump back into it, starting with number five. Tip number five, we're going to be talking about anticipating offensive system tier jumps. Okay, that's a lot of words, Mike.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yes. It's over 75,000 words right there. The NFL is full of parity. Teams jump from worst to first. It happens every single year. And offenses jump from bad to competent, sometimes even a jump up to a really good, strong offense. It happens every year.
Starting point is 00:43:02 When it happens, it feels like it comes out of nowhere because pretty much for this to happen. The team had to have been bad, you know. And it's like, well, that team was bad last year. There's no way they can turn it around. Lo and behold, it just happens every single year. In fact, at least three teams jump 13 or more total touchdowns from the previous year, and that is over the last decade, that we get three teams that make a very significant jump.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Yeah, the Washington commanders, right? They were horrifically bad. They overhaul everything. They bring in Jaden Daniels. They hit on that. And now we want all the Washington commanders on our fantasy football teams. So it's about trying to project which teams, which of the, you know, at least three teams are going to make that jump.
Starting point is 00:43:50 So look at last year. Were they dreadful? Okay, well, that's the first check mark. But then it's figure out what happened. You know, Tua, last year the Miami Dolphins, who had been a very prolific offense. Tua misses, you know, half the year. And all of a sudden that team looks bad and we have bad feelings about the Miami
Starting point is 00:44:10 Dolphins. a couple years ago it's happened to the Cowboys with Dak Prescott he's gotten hurt then the Cowboys look like crap they come back or Dak comes back
Starting point is 00:44:19 look who's a high-powered offense again things like strength of schedule San Francisco Per Warren Sharpe's Strength of Schedule analysis it just
Starting point is 00:44:29 it looks so easy and obviously it won't be as easy as it looks but there are some clear path there is a clear path on there and then this is a big one
Starting point is 00:44:41 offensive coordinator change for so last year we had uh you know a good amount of teams to jump up and four of the five from last year it was an offensive coordinator change and you can even factor in if you want to say hey Aaron Rogers is kind of uh four of the five jumps yeah four of the five jumps from last year and if you want to say Aaron Rogers is part of the OC of the Jets last year that would be five of five um so in fact over the last three years 10 of the 11 teams that tier jumped had a new OC or a new play caller that year. So it's looking at the teams who were bad,
Starting point is 00:45:15 and then this year, do we have new play callers or new OCs? The best candidates for this, you know, and... I have one team in mind. I wonder if you'll mention them or not. And the thing about that is when there's players from these teams, it's baked into
Starting point is 00:45:31 their average draft position of that player's on a bad team. And so they're goal later in draft. This is what helps you find guys who are really going to help you win, not just the early picks, but the later guys. So this year, the teams that have, we got new player callers, new OCs that are
Starting point is 00:45:47 interesting, that could make this jump of over 13 touchdowns to really help your fantasy team. We got Chicago with Ben Johnson. That's the obvious one. Dallas, they changed things up. They got Clayton Adams at the O.C. position. The Vegas Raiders.
Starting point is 00:46:03 You got Chip Kelly in there, who has given us historically really good fantasy players in the past. Like New England? Hey, we got Josh McDeniel. I mean, he's back. We're back, baby. And then in Cleveland, Tommy Reese. So we have... You didn't say the team I was thinking about.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Tell me to mention it? Yeah, because you've got to... First, it has to be a bottom 10 team. Like, is it Tennessee? No. Oh, okay. Give it to me. It's Jacksonville. Sure. With Liam Cohen.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Yes. And the bad vibes and the fact that you had the number two pick, which, you know, Jacksonville's sitting there going like, well, there are not good feelings around that team. There's good feelings around Brian Thomas Jr. but we're talking about the backfield we don't love and all of that, but like Liam Cohen should be able to do something special. You know, that's one situation that jumped out to me. So I love that call because Travis E.TN is left for dead in drafts right now.
Starting point is 00:46:55 He's a bum. He's worthless. It's Bayshell Tootin that everybody wants now this year or Tank Bigsby. And, you know, Trevor Lawrence isn't good. But if he brings in a good system and Trevor Lawrence is an above average quarterback, that could be a very good offense. They have weapons there. But so just, you know, the summary is don't get over concerned about how bad a team was last year.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Look at the team. Look at the changes that they have made. Did they bring in a new O.C? Because teams move up. And every single time they move up, we go, whoa. Didn't see that coming. Who could have possibly seen that? It happens every year, man.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah, yeah. So you have to try to find your best shot at predicting those situations. No, it makes sense. All right, moving on. number four all right number four my final tip of this top ten it is doing the tight-end dance all right and it kind of piggybacks on what jason was talking about with the onesie positions if you don't end up with one of those you know the bowers mcbride kiddle which in in most situations uh you know bowers and mcbride i think the way we view them is that they are
Starting point is 00:48:03 fair and appropriate picks at their draft cost but they do cost you something right in terms of what you're trading. Jason mentioned the names earlier. George Kittles kind of been the favorite of our group. But if you look at our value scout tool, and if you don't know what that is, we have built it out, added it to the EDK this year, what it does is it takes our rankings and our true value of a player, where we think they really belong in drafts, their true value, and compares it to your platform's average draft position because your league mates are drafting ESPN, sleeper, Yahoo, NFL, whatever, they're drafting and they're seeing those default lists, and those default lists are based on where those players are going
Starting point is 00:48:44 on those platforms. And so our tool compares our true value with those platforms and kind of says, hey, we think this player's worth maybe five or six, seven picks to be higher in the draft or lower. But when you look at how we view the tight-in position, we basically look at Bowers, McBride, and Kittle, pretty much their true value is about where they're being drafted. But beyond that at the tight-in position, the TLDR, the summary, it's like we don't think that the Loportas, the Hawkinsons are worth where they're going in drafts because of the other options that you have at tight-in later on. And so it can feel a little uncomfortable going into your fantasy season without a true
Starting point is 00:49:26 monster tight-in, Bauer's McBride-Kittal. It can feel a little uncomfortable. but people need to recognize that doing the tight-end dance, streaming the tight-in position where look, every week we get on and we tell you streaming defenses that we think are good options this week. You can stream the kicker position every week. But tight-end overall, it really can be pieced together
Starting point is 00:49:48 in, I think, a more predictive way. Yes. Because the defensive numbers that we start to get four, five, six weeks into the season, you really see what teams are vulnerable against tight-ins. It's a scheme thing. Some teams, their personnel, and the scheme that they play just allows that area of the field to get eaten alive.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And so the offense that faces it targets that because it's just good football. And it happens every week. It's very predictable in a way that it's not with the other positions. We, behind the scenes look of the fantasy footballers, one of our in-season tools is the stream finder where, you know, instead of just a strength of schedule for one particular team, we look at which teams are getting beaten. up by a particular position and every week we do a starts of the week segment and every week it's
Starting point is 00:50:39 one of the starts of the week at the tight end position is going to be that tight end who's playing the team who gets beat up by tight ends and it works just magically over the course of the season yeah and I think part of that is just like okay if a team's weak against wide receivers
Starting point is 00:50:55 well every team starts a bunch of wide receivers if a team's weak against running backs there's a lot of committees if you're weak against the tight end in, there's normally one targeted pass catching tight end. It makes it easier to predict. And the other aspect that you can look at, you know, beyond the defense they're playing when you're looking at streaming tight ends, look at the metrics that matter. That's a series we've been doing with the Just the Tips weekend mini series.
Starting point is 00:51:17 But if you look at what's the most important thing for tight ends, routes, routes, receptions, targets, yards after catch. And so you can start to look at increased opportunities. A good example of this last year, if you remember, the show. I was doing this. I was in the position to stream tight ends. I was on the way to a championship game against Al Borland, our champion now. But the path to the championship game went with, it was like Britain Strange. All of a sudden had a bunch of opportunities in the offense. Chigacanquo from weeks 12 through 17, elite usage in the offense. He was 25 plus
Starting point is 00:51:52 routes per game, six plus targets per game. All of a sudden, he was winning people titles, number seven tight in, number three tight in, and then almost nine fantasy points in the championship week, not a bad week, targets 10, 11, 7, out of nowhere, undrafted, not picked up on waiver wires. You could just grab them off of the waiver wire in week 15. This happens more predictably at tight end. And so doing that tight end dance, if you don't get one of the top guys or you don't want to spend that cost, you don't want to take McBride at the expense of Chase Brown, this is
Starting point is 00:52:20 the way to do it. It is more predictable. And you can find those opportunities. This year, I'm telling you some names to pay attention to you. I'm going to whisper one of them. Kyle Pitts I knew it And then I'm going to mention
Starting point is 00:52:33 I'm going to mention a rookie The man has become a meme He has become a meme And he's like He's still like 16 years old Now you're a meme Now you're a meme But another name
Starting point is 00:52:43 Like you talk about the mystery bag Mason Taylor's going to start He's back at practice Yeah Mason Taylor is going to start For the Jets From week one A rookie tight end
Starting point is 00:52:51 Elijah Arroyo in Seattle Maybe Chigakonquo again Jason mentioned him the other day You can do the tight end dance and win So that's my final tip. Number three. This tip is really important for who are listening right now and about to draft in two weeks,
Starting point is 00:53:08 which is everybody. This is beware over drafting preseason hype machines. Oh, boy. It don't work. Oh, boy. It doesn't work. The preseason, look, we come in and we do the preseason power up and we tell you what we're seeing and the depth chart. Oh, man, but that train gets out of control.
Starting point is 00:53:26 We like the hype train. was the Abdullah Express. How dear you. Boy, that train really keeps going. I guess I got to stop the train. You can't. Al Borland's looking at me. Stop the train.
Starting point is 00:53:39 You stop. Trains can't. Anyways. You know, in the early days of the podcast, we had the Amir Abdullah's cut heard around the world. The one jump cut that lofted him up to like the fourth round. Because it was awesome. It was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:53:54 But it turns out. It was a preseason play. It was a preseason play. And it didn't actually. changed things. More recently, do you guys remember when Marquez Calloway and the Saints? He had a couple touchdowns in preseason, went all the way up to the eighth round the year after. Damien Pierce. I mean, I was out on him all offseason going into 2022. And then he had such a good preseason. And I was like, dang. Am I wrong? I guess I was wrong. And then he was
Starting point is 00:54:22 a bust pick in the fifth round. The next year, can he pick it? Oh, that perfect steel. office. Perfect offense. Oh, what a pre-season drive. Five touchdowns. Then two full seasons of real football later. And he, Kenny Pickett has the worst touchdown right. Second worst touchdown rate of all time. That one's crazy. Last year, Caleb Williams, he had this insane off balance out of the pocket, deep completion to Roma Dunzee. Do you guys remember that? I hope you don't because this is an actual tweet from the Bears. This is an actual tweet from the Bears. oh it is nobody this they said nobody will remember your salary how busy you were how many hours you worked people will remember Caleb Williams to Roma Dunesay in the third
Starting point is 00:55:09 preseason game of 2024 okay uh we don't remember is our job the bear the bears fans have been upset I'm not completely sure why of the way that we talk about the bears because we want them to be good we like their skill players everything is just is Caleb Williams good enough. Okay. This that's not helping. This is not helping your case. They were talk to the social media people. They were a hype machine in preseason
Starting point is 00:55:36 last year. It didn't work. It also works in reverse. You know, Jamar Chase his rookie preseason dealt with drops through training camp and had one bad preseason drive. He was done. You know, Gentie and Caleb Johnson this year always he's dead.
Starting point is 00:55:52 His career's over because he dropped the pass in preseason. And he's holding to it. How about that? My point is... I was saying his career is certainly not over one preseason game. That is my point. It's like, do not overreact to this preseason.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Have fun. Watch football. Try to take some glimmers of maybe some second, third string players who seem like they're going to crack into the starting roster. Maybe that matters for your late... Oh, my gosh. Please ignore stat lines in the preseason. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:56:20 The only thing I look at genuinely is the athleticist of a player and how they look compared to other NFL players. I can't remember like Julius Thomas preseason with Peyton Manning in Denver. It's hyper-athletic tight-in. Nobody had heard of him. You start to see some plays yards after the catch. You're like, wow, that
Starting point is 00:56:39 player looks special on an NFL field. That's the stuff to pay attention to. Yeah. And if you look over time, all the things that really preseason let us, I mean, you're bringing up Julius Thomas. That's a great, that's a great example. I remember. I will never
Starting point is 00:56:55 forget how important that preseason was? What year was that? That was probably 20... I mean, when was Julius Thomas' breakup? Exactly. Like, we got to dig deep for the real positive, we got a win from this preseason. No, you're right. I mean, although you can't talk Mike out of Isaac Tislaw. No, you cannot. Because the one caveat here is if they're on your team, the preseason super matters. Well, that's great because then you can't avoid this tip, which is you can't overdraft them. Yeah, I already got them. Yeah, you already got them.
Starting point is 00:57:29 That's a good point. Now just get hyped. That's fine. Just don't overdraft based on pre-season. You can, you can ask Brian, my Tesla hype is... Oh, so you are... Inappropriate. So you are like fully hoping like James Williams leaves due to contractual... Yeah, next year. Next year. Yeah, yeah. No, no, I want Jameson Williams this year. No, I know, but I can... I know already what you're hoping for. Yeah? A departure to another team.
Starting point is 00:57:53 number two dynasty's the long game man got to you got to see a path a year in front your team doesn't need any more players we're going to call this one mix and match and this is honestly a newer strategy that over the last couple years you know i've i've become more open to it and to the fact of like no now i'm not just open to the idea i think it's a good idea and it's in a single quarterback league be willing to draft two quarterbacks in your league. And this is more of a tip for a, if I draft a stud quarterback,
Starting point is 00:58:30 I'm not doing this. But if I wait on my quarterback, then I'm real, real open to drafting a second quarterback because you're trying to find a breakout guy. And in the past, it had been easier
Starting point is 00:58:45 to find those guys late. Patrick Mahomes, Lamar, Jane Daniels, Josh Allen. It was like, especially when they run, it's an easier thing for fantasy football to see that player really paying off where they're being drafted.
Starting point is 00:59:02 But if I'm waiting on a quarterback, I still want to take multiple shots at finding that breakout quarterback because as the rounds go on, of course we want to find the super late round running back or wide receiver who's really going to step up and make a difference for your team.
Starting point is 00:59:21 But listen to this. Last year of the 36 non-defense or kicker players taken in rounds 13 to 15, you know, essentially the last three rounds for most leagues out there. Only a handful of running backs. We're talking five players were valuable at any part of the season after week one. If you were drafted beyond round 13? Yes. Yeah, that's like a very low.
Starting point is 00:59:46 That's not a mystery bag. That's a bag of poop. Yeah. So last year, Jacoby, RICO, Jerry, Judy, Josh Downs. At best, you're hoping for some corn in that. You know, it's like, that's it. Nass.
Starting point is 00:59:59 So there's at least something in? I don't know. Where are we going? I don't know why you had to get in on the bag joke with some, just let it go. So these players, going in those rounds, more often than not, are just nothingness. Yeah, you cut them. You end up cutting them for free agent. Yeah. For waiver day on your first waiver, which it's nice to have a player.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I can see in week one. Is something going to happen? Nope. Okay. I just give me someone who I know is going to do something. But taking a second shot at one of these later around quarterbacks, because the names are extremely enticing. These are quarterbacks who are going in double-digit rounds.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Justin Herbert, Purdy, Dak, Caleb, Jordan Love, Justin Fields, Stroud, and Drake May. Like, of that list, it would not surprise me to see at least three or four of those guys inside the top 12 at the end of the year. and so instead of a huge grab bag of like veterans going in the 13th round, Justin Fields is a running quarterback who has given you fantasy success in the past. Drake May, Jason loves him. He rushes too more than you actually realize. Dak historically when healthy, a stud.
Starting point is 01:01:12 A stud for fantasy football. So I'm willing to take, if I'm going later with my quarterback, I want to pair two of these guys instead of a running back that I'm going to cut after week one. No, it is interesting and it gives you, I've seen some trade opportunities born out of that strategy before because let's say both your guys hit. I mean, you do have leverage there. Somebody's got a disappointing quarterback. There's going to be disappointments in the first few weeks.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Exactly what you know is of the quarterbacks who are drafted as the top ten at the position, multiple guys in that top ten are going to fail. Yeah, no, it happens every single year. All right, we got one left. Number one. All right, I'm going to title this one. This is the one we all share, and it's good advice. It's called Wiping the Slate Clean.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Throw a little quote in here, guys. See if you can get deep with me here. The past is a place of reference, not a place of residence. Oh, man. I like that. That's a little too deep. For the show that just talked about corn and poop. I feel like what I would say instead of that quote, I would say,
Starting point is 01:02:18 something more along the lines of like upgrade from toilet paper to a bidet. Thank you. Yeah, that's what they should have is. Really wipe it clean. Wipe it clean. That's more of a wash it clean. Yeah, it's okay. He's close. Let go
Starting point is 01:02:33 let go of the pain, let go of the burns, let go of the resentment, let go of the frustration, let go of the bitterness, let go of the baggage. Let go of the what-ifs. Oh my gosh, the what-ifs. Free yourself of the burden, my friends. Last year is gone, right? We've learned our lessons. We've done our reflection. That was back in February and March.
Starting point is 01:02:51 It is time to move forward. Don't let any of those old burns hold you back from good choices than this year's draft. You're just telling Mike to draft CMC at 101. I think I accidentally did. Look, there is one. Don't got to tell me nothing. There is one person. I've been here. One person in your draft that should be bringing up the past. Mike. And that is the champion. Yeah. Your job is to make everybody. else look backwards. The champ's job is to make them look backwards and bow to you. Everybody else needs to
Starting point is 01:03:24 wipe the slate clean, forget that it existed. Honestly, I've almost forgotten that I was in the title game against Al. It's just not, I don't even remember who won that game, honestly. I don't even know. Because you don't reside in the past. I don't reside in the past.
Starting point is 01:03:40 So wipe the slate clean and it's a brand new year. You are currently undefeated Foot Clan on the season. Oh man, I pulled up because I hadn't watched yet but I pulled up hard knocks last night I was meaning to do that yesterday
Starting point is 01:03:54 I was watching watching you know it's just you know the sleep show have it on wife's getting ready in the bathroom for sleep she walks out she's like oh no she heard the horns she's like
Starting point is 01:04:06 that means the season is starting the music lets her know exactly what's happening and I was like yeah you hear this do do do do do do do do oh man that theme song Oh man So she's remembering the past
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah It was serious It was Oh no That's amazing Well it's your job Mike you have no choice I know
Starting point is 01:04:32 And it's wonderful All right mock draft episode tomorrow We got something special In store for that We got my guys On Friday Official my guys
Starting point is 01:04:40 Delivered to you On Friday Are we locked We're locked We're locked We're locked We're locked for now. And I feel really good about all
Starting point is 01:04:49 nine of ours. Yeah, no, this, I was saying this is the first year I've kind of felt like I mean, we make them individually. Sometimes we're going to have differences of opinion. I feel pretty good about the group. So looking forward to it. Hey, this is Bree. And he's white. Oh, I want to begin my biggest
Starting point is 01:05:04 congratulations to Al. Oh, Al's doing what you said. Okay. He's bringing up the fact that he's the champ and rubbing your nose in it. Oh, we did forget. I mean, we didn't, we didn't call this out, but we do have a special guest today. Oh, that's right. Keanu
Starting point is 01:05:20 couldn't make it on yesterday. Yeah, I mean, we've talked about it. We've got our... No one's seeing this is to win. We've got our arch rival, you know, the new height show, and we kind of called them out because we passed them in the sports rankings and that's what you do. Like I said, you know, you kind of got a gloat when you pass somebody, and they were kind of scrambling.
Starting point is 01:05:37 They were desperate. They're like, I don't know what to do. We got to get our ranking up. And so they decided, I guess, based on us, to have a musical artist. Who was it again? Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift went on there.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Well, you know who we got on our show? We've got. Taylor Swift. That's right, baby. We had her on our show first. That's right. Taylor Swift is back. I mean, hey guys.
Starting point is 01:06:04 That's not AI for all the YouTube out there. I have my 13th album to announce on today's show. Oh, man. So a very special guest today. We had to get back up on the chart. only there on YouTube. Yeah, yeah. That didn't work well on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:06:18 All right, that'll do it for today's show. Thank you for joining us. Avail yourself of the UDK Ultimate DraftKit.com. Back with more shows tomorrow. Take care, everybody. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on Jointhefoot.com.
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