Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - 32 Preseason Takeaways + Key Questions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/18
Episode Date: August 18, 2025Fantasy Football show for Aug 18, 2025. Preseason reactions and worrisome injuries! Andy, Mike, and Jason recap Week 2 of preseason action. How concerned should we be about A.J. Brown and De’Von Ach...ane? Who’s the starting RB for the Jaguars? Lots of news and updates out of preseason and training camp! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2025 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT + Draft Analyzer available now at UltimateDraftKit.com(00:00) Intro(03:29) NFL News(17:47) Week 2 Preseason Recap (50:05) Mailbag(51:03) IR vs Bench Spots (53:28) Bryce Young sleeper pick?(54:33) CJ Stroud 2025 Outlook(59:24) RJ Harvey vs Kaleb Johnson(59:47) General Keeper League AdviceConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord
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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Monday, August 18th, the fantasy footballers podcast back with you.
Week two of the preseason, almost in the books, in the rearview mirror.
We got one more game.
Get some Bengals commanders tonight, but we'll talk preseason week two takeaways.
I jotted down something for every team that we can blitz through and then I'm going to
I'm going to translate the takeaways into a fantasy question for you gentlemen and then you guys
can tell me how things are going by way of rankings and adjustments and give you a yes or a no
nice oh to the question that's the kind of analysis also I have to ask it a yes or no no you can
ask whatever question you want that's just but you're getting a yes or a no yeah you guys
how many yards and I'll be like yes you guys had a long week
weekend. We did. Yeah, we did. We were at a wedding.
You were, you were out of town. In the middle of August. And now I'm very sleepy, but we're
here. We're hyped. You were, it wasn't like a normal destination. It was just like you
were kind of, you traveled a ways to get there. It was a destination. It was certainly not
close. But you're back. We are. And we've got a lot of news to cover. We've got
mailbag on the show as well. If we have some time, we got a big announcement.
If you're, if you're, I told you, man.
Mike is, things are going to be wacky today.
Today's going to be wild, but we've got great stuff for you.
The filters are off.
Yeah, I got picked up on that when you just went,
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, welcome in, everybody.
Look, we did have a tips and tricks show last week,
and we said don't overreact to the preseason,
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We'll jump in right now.
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And Brooksie would like me to remind you there's another very big announcement tomorrow.
Oh, just tease.
It's just a tease.
It's just a monster.
There's just a little.
A monster tease.
Yeah.
I'm sleepy.
wake me up tomorrow
all right well we didn't get to cover this
because we had just recorded before we got this news
but the Cleveland Browns
there are always updates around the Browns
Quinn Sean Judkins
who was at one point this off
season other than Ashton Genty
was some of our favorite
when I finished outing the UDK he was the second
highest I mean obviously Genti being
like a first round pick was super high
but he came out highest in my
expected projections for
2025. So it's been quite a roller coaster
because he's gone from
probably the
second best pick potentially
at running back
to I don't know if he plays football
this year or signs with the Browns
to now the news. Which is that
in a statement Thursday in an NFL
spokesperson said the league had been
quote following developments in the matter.
He won't face formal
misdemeanor battery charges
over an alleged domestic incident in South Florida last month.
He is still unsigned.
He does not have a contract with the Browns.
Right now, if you watch the preseason game,
Jerome Ford, Dylan Samson both didn't play
because they rested with the starters.
So those are the two players that are lunged up to play running back.
You know, obviously Nick Chubb departed this offseason.
Jerome Ford came back.
Quintan Judkins was supposed to be the future.
Mm-hmm.
Number 36 pick, a very talented running back that was going to be the new Nick Chubb.
So now we know he's not facing charges.
The NFL can still suspend him.
I'm going to project they still will.
Right now, Jimmy Haslam said he's cautiously optimistic that he'll play for the team in 2025.
That's all we have.
No contract yet.
Yeah.
He said that back in July.
Yeah.
This is new news because it looked like he was definitely, you know,
going to have charges brought against him.
I mean, he was arrested.
So now there is a chance,
there is a chance that he doesn't get suspended
and is available for the entire season.
Which he has not practiced and played with the team yet.
And so that'll be something to, you know,
from an onboarding perspective,
how much do they trust them?
When do they trust them?
All of that.
But we'll follow that news and get along to you as we get it.
There was news, I believe, yesterday,
that the commanders had been shopping Brian Robinson,
Jr. to teams around the NFL.
If you remember Brian Robinson
Jr. and I believe Austin Eckler are both on the final
years of their contracts with
the commanders.
Jacori Kroski, Merritt, has gotten a lot
of off-season hype and buzz. He was a seventh
round pick. He had very little
production in college. He had one year
at, I think it's New Mexico or New Mexico
State. And then he transferred and played one
game in Arizona. That's it.
That's all he had. He had a very productive one year.
The nastiest
of nasty boys, Mike, if you want to hit that drop.
but we're at the point.
Do you have a giant drop board now?
I've had this forever, man.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
You got the big boy over there.
Well, it's, I got,
I got these fun knobs and things, too.
Oh, you got all the buttons.
Yeah, I do, but I can swipe between.
It just caught my eye.
I didn't know if you were going to be firing off some sound effects through the show.
Uh,
got any horns and whistles?
No, the producers have wisely not given me very many options.
Just knobs that do nothing so you can feel like you're doing something.
That's great.
I look like I'm real busy over here, guys.
But let's talk about this.
Brian Robinson, and maybe the team feels comfortable enough with Croskey
Merritt working in with Echler that they were willing to shot Brian Robinson.
We don't know a lot more than that one report.
Yeah, it's such a weird thing to come out and be.
They are going to play football soon.
Yeah, I mean, as of right now, Brian Robinson is the presumed 1A of the backfield for a good
offense.
He's been a target.
Both him and Austin Echler have been targeted.
targets because you're talking double-digit, you know, 10-plus round in your draft where
they're going to score fantasy points. So if he left, that would be very interesting for
Lil Bill as Jacori goes by. Yeah. And or Austin Eckler. And just to add Andy more
context. He really only had one year of true production. I mean, he played a lot of years
of college. Like he played at Alabama State. And then he went to
a big program in New Mexico
and then transferred to U of A
where he got 13 carries
so I struggle very much with this situation
of this
he's 24 years old
he was a seventh round pick
and I know yes
late round guys come out of nowhere
sometimes like Isaiah Pacheco
I'll just bring up who everyone wants to bring up
Alfred Morris because he was a he was that for the
literal same team and they
they want to project that on to Kroski Marrick
But the, you know, for, for ever, Isaiah Pacheco, it did work out eventually.
You know, like, I believe his rookie year, it wasn't spectacular for fantasy football,
but he did take the job.
But it's just reminder.
Remember, uh, Kamani Vidal Sassoon?
Oh, yeah.
Everyone loved him.
That dude's going to take over the chart.
Like, it's very difficult for day three guys to truly take over.
But this is, you got at least pay attention.
Yeah, we, we can name them because they're so.
few.
Yes.
Steve Slayton and Philip Lindsay and, you know, a handful of guys over the years.
But if Brian Robinson was traded, that just makes him relevant immediately.
If Robinson is traded, it's a huge deal because he will be, Kraski Merritt would take that role.
Terry McCloran activated off the pop, but he doesn't have the contract he wants yet.
You need to activate that money.
Yeah.
He's not activated off of the business, yeah.
Like, yeah.
The business pop?
Yeah, the one that, hey, it worked for James.
financially unable to perform?
Yes.
The fop?
I don't like that.
Hey.
Tom Pelliserro, your favorite guy, Mike.
Oh, who's we hyping up now?
He's just saying it's still a possibility that Rashi Rice and the NFLPA and everybody come to an agreement on a settlement for a suspension that would allow them to be suspended at the beginning of the year instead of waiting.
We did have an update.
So the last report was, you know, that they're waiting four weeks or so into the season.
before he even has his true meeting here
with his judge, which we got
some more context on that, was
what I saw
from the rumor mill that the league
was coming after like 10
games. Yes. And
the Rashid Rice gave was like,
oh no, we are not going to take that.
So we're going to move forward as far
if possible into
having an independent person
look at it. So there is a
judge who was not able
schedule-wise to fit this
to look at this case for the four weeks, that was the reason for the delay.
But as of right now, as of right now, between weeks four and five, he's going to have his
moment to speak with, is it a judge?
I believe it is.
It's a disciplinary hearing with the same judge that covered the Deshaun Watson suspension situation.
It could take her time from the end of the hearing to her decision in one, two, three, four, five weeks.
It came quick.
It came quick with Deshaun Watson, I believe.
I thought you took some time.
It's up in the air of this is still extremely messy
and you're going to have to make your own personal decision
of how much Rishie Rice risk are you on.
I think they'll get to a settlement.
I think we'll hear something.
But A.J. Brown's still not practicing, which is not great.
No.
We're getting closer to the season.
That's a heads up for you.
I had to increase the risk rating and lower a little bit of my projection for A.J. Brown
just out of hedging.
The Eagles then went and traded for John Metchy
from the Texans in exchange for Harrison Bryant
and a day three pick swap.
John Metchie was
he was a player that there was a lot of excitement
for. He underwent cancer
treatment. Yeah, he lost his rookie year to
treating his cancer, yes. And then
we had, he just hasn't been able to kind of
work himself into the rotation enough. So
new chance with Philadelphia
and they do this. They find a way to just
grab some guys that haven't had the opportunities
that they think maybe they deserve.
Yeah, they went and got Dotson. Yep.
After, you know, it's like these are, these were, they've got wide receivers who were supposed to be better than they, you know, performed on the NFL field.
But John Metchie is reunited with Devante Smith.
They were both at Alabama together.
That's fun.
Yep.
We've got more injury updates.
Malik Neighbors is dealing with a back injury.
So back shoulder toe.
Yeah.
It's just normal back tightness.
That is the quote.
That was the quote.
It's just normal back tightness.
This is great news for me because that's how I wake up every day.
And it's normal.
League neighbors.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah, pretty similar athletic profile, but also normal back tightness.
Yes.
Mike McDaniel says he's currently not concerned about some big news, Devon A-chan,
who's dealing with a lower body soft tissue issue.
And, you know, I saw some medical experts talk about this basically saying,
look, if this was hamstring, because the quote from McDaniel was days and weeks.
If it was hamstring, it would be weeks automatically.
So he's kind of ruling out hamstring.
He's kind of leaning towards this is either groin adduct or something like that.
Well, there's one way to find out.
Is he on the index?
I'm checking.
Well, he might, the reason he might not be telling us what's hurting is because he doesn't want to end up on groin index.
Yeah, they do that now.
They don't have to fully report it.
So this is not great, though, because A. Chan is, he's an undersized back.
He has an injury history, although last year he made it through.
but previously to that he had an injury history
and then we're going to talk more
in the preseason takeaways about the backup options there
but A. Chan right now
not concerned about his week one availability
but I don't like any preseason injuries at this point
speaking of which Joe Mixin is still
quote not considered a lot to be ready
for the week one game against the Rams
there was a picture viral picture spreading
from a podiatrist this weekend
with he was featured with Joe Mixon
And it was like, hey, I'm so happy to be part of Joe Mixon's recovery team.
And this was like a podiatrist, a foot guy talking about this.
So there's something going on with the foot.
He's still on the NFI.
And I've seen a couple of unsubstantiated reports of people pulling them off their board completely.
But again, it's like, could this dude just show up in week one?
You got to hedge a little bit.
He's not a safe draft pick.
No.
There are a few guys.
We're getting to the time of year now where these are, it's so hard to
remember that this isn't just some piece of paper week one game like this is a human being
who either is able to play football or isn't hasn't been able to this whole offseason we're
17 days away from NFL games being played you have to you know you have to get out there
right now mixing stafford these guys who have just spent the entire off season unable to play
football scare the tarnation out of me like I I certainly am not drafting any of them at ADP
in Stafford's situation. He affects everybody.
That's hurting all Rams.
And we'll talk about the backup options there in our preseason
takeaways as well. Quentin Johnston, or sorry,
yeah, Quentin Johnston went down.
Yeah, he got parted off, concussion symptoms.
This is in the preseason game. Same with Jaliel,
uh, sorry, Jalen McMillan, who that, that looked very painful as well.
He folded up and got hurt and we'll talk about the wide receivers for the
Buccaneers, but the most recent report is that,
he, quote, avoided anything major, which is good news.
Keaton Mitchell, hamstring injury, running back for the Ravens, depth of peace behind
Derek Henry.
The 49ers, dude, what?
Mercy.
You can add, that's, they're just all yelling mercy.
Mercy, have mercy on us.
You can add Patrick Taylor and Corey Kiner, both running backs.
I don't even know who Corey Kiner has.
Never heard that name of my life.
Yeah, well, he was taking like significant snaps because Garindo, Jordan James, Amir Abdullah,
all out.
Patrick Taylor dislocated shoulder, kinder, high ankle sprain.
Right now, is this the only way to keep CMC healthy?
Is he, like, siphoning their health?
Yes, he is, yeah.
Yeah, Keishon, Vaughn, and Jeff Wilson are healthy.
My name is Jeff.
They have both of those players.
Kishon Vaughn and Jeff Wilson.
We're back, man.
Get on your knees and pray because you're about to go down.
This is like, what's the most recent, that movie that just came out again?
Oh, Final Destination?
Final Destination.
Yeah, it's taking everyone.
Running back room.
You know, Pat.
Marshawn Lloyd, he played in the preseason game.
He hurt himself in the preseason game.
Marshaun Lloyd had a great reception, looked, you know, explosive, people in camp, very explosive.
Hamstring, now injured.
He's too explosive.
So he is.
Or his muscles.
I mean, basically he's going to start the season hurt again.
And it's not going to be him as the backup for Josh Jacobs.
And it's awful because you're never going to see him play football.
Last year, it feels like it.
Last year he had a hip injury, a hamstring strain, an ankle sprain, and appendicitis.
Oh, mixing that in?
And then he's starting this year off with the groin strain earlier, finally gets back, and now hamstring again.
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All right, we will take a break, and let's jump into some preseason.
All right, we had a second week of preseason football, only one week left of preseason
to kind of figure out some things about these players and see them on the field.
Time to talk.
Takeaways.
Preseason power up.
All right, gentlemen, I am going to.
Oh, the papers are out.
I got the papers out.
The papers.
I'm going to blitz these.
don't want people out there to think that I'm going to be
exhaustive about every single one of these games, teams,
or players. That is not
what this is going to be. This is going to be just some
kind of headline takeaways for
each and every team.
There were a couple teams that literally just didn't
play first and second stringers at all, and
those teams don't have takeaways.
But I'm just going to ask some questions about
fantasy based on what we're seeing. For Buffalo,
they really played no starters.
The one thing
that was significant to me, Ray Davis,
played. And Ty
Johnson, James Cook, they didn't play.
So from a depth chart perspective, I think that's a little bit interesting because
I don't look at Ty Johnson at this juncture of his career to be anybody that's a threat
to James Cook at all.
He is a very complimentary player, where Ray Davis, young, sophomore player, explosive,
him playing in the third spot really feels like it's another boost to James Cook
who just signed the contract, like just being secure.
I feel like it's a statement that, you know, Cook is the starter.
and Ty Johnson, he has his role.
And Ray Davis is James Cook's backup.
I think that's fair.
Jason, with Miami and A-chan getting hurt.
We did have Jalen Wright play ahead of Ollie Gordon in this game.
Yeah.
But Ollie Gordon was great again.
And Jailen Wright was like 0.8 to carry.
Is he just not good?
Yeah, before this game.
Yeah, no, I think that's the issue.
I think Jalen Wright is not good.
It's not being good at the game.
I mean, his vision is terrible.
he's a great athlete. The rookie year was
left a lot wanting and we're
already in a place of like, hey
look at it. In Ollie Gordon, it was a
day three guy. Yeah, he already looks
better. I want to say he was round six, around seven. I think that's the headline
Ollie Gordon from a depth perspective.
A chance is hurt right now.
Prior to this week of
preseason football, I
personally chose to give Ollie Gordon
higher stats than
Jalen Wright, which is very against the grain.
But
I just don't think Jalen
Wright is good enough
if he proves me wrong
the opportunity there in that backfield is
great. Jalen Wright among 89
rookie running backs with 70 or more
touches since 2017
Wright ranked dead last in yards per
touch. So it's just to put
a number to how kind of stinky it was
last year. He can sprint.
Yeah. Yeah. His 40 yard dash
excellent work. But the vision thing like they wanted
they're talking about making him the goal line back. That's what the
opportunity they gave him in the first week of the preseason. They were
stuffed again. They're the worst short yardage team in football.
Maybe Ollie Gordon's part of that solution.
I don't know if Derek Henry could be a successful goal line back there.
Yeah, I mean, it's just...
Let's not be hyperbolic, Jason.
He'd be fine, he'd be fine.
He'd be better for sure.
I'm just saying they've got a really bad office of line.
All right, by the way, AFC East is where I'm starting here.
New England.
First sentence, Trevion seems inevitable.
Thoughts, Mike?
I'm never going back to the past.
I believe we know Mike's yes or no.
answer to that question. So he took all the third downs with the starters in this game.
You didn't take anything from Antonio Gibson being the actual starter. I was going to say
Antonio Gibson was the, we got to make the rookie earn it. Was the procedural starter. Is that old
man coach? Yes, it is. Can we be like a rookie? Very similar to unleash him. Unleash him unless you
don't want to win. He'll be unleashed. So the question is, is how unleashed will he be in ADP? And do you
overspend on him because he's so sexy yeah and like he it would there will be a time share i just
think that henderson is so good he will be the leader of that speaking uh and efton chisholm
chat out to you yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah another amazing performance uh the new york jets
speaking of time shares braylin allen took all man listen he took all third downs that was so weird
and he was seven for 34 i think briefs was like six for 36 or something like that they were
it's going to be a time share in New York
but the past catching has been the like
saving grace caveat
and I know third down is not everything right
you watch this game and there's two takeaways
one the committee situation
and two I know Mike doesn't want to hear it
so I'm going to tell you Jason just me and you
I'm willing to hear it because I know what you're going to say
Justin Fields is not a good past year he's not he's not
Garrett Wilson is going to be hurt by Justin Fields
he it's not good vibes right now
No. I mean, we have, there's no receiver that has shown us that opportunity mixed with bad quarterback play does not equal fantasy success more than Garrett Wilson. He's had the targets. What, the most ever in three years or something like that? Yeah. So it is depressing to see. Yeah, he had 168 targets and finished as the wide receiver 32 that same year. Yeah, and Justin Fields, like these were bunnies in this game that he missed. He was one for five passing, I believe. But they were, you're talking about like Bruce Hall for a dump off. You know what I mean? Like,
over his head. Like little, it's only five passes. It's not the whole season. You don't overreact
to it. But you also like understand that Justin Fields has played for three teams now.
Like if he was the super answer for a team, the worst team in football doesn't easily sign you.
So that's the concern there. AFC North. I literally have nothing for Baltimore. All the all the starters
rested Cincinnati. They haven't played. So no takeaways. Future takeaways. They played
tonight. Cleveland, I mentioned it, Samson and Ford. Those guys rested with the starters.
we're waiting on Quinshawn Judkins.
Do you have any gauge of like, if Judkins signs tomorrow?
Is it just, that's the guy you take the shot on late in drafts?
You don't worry about the other guys?
Yeah, I would take him ahead of the other guys.
He's the best running back on the roster.
They drafted him to be their main start.
It will take time, though.
You're going to have to hold for a few weeks.
A rookie who has no training camp whatsoever.
I mean, I guess if he signed tomorrow, he gets a couple weeks,
but they're already making plans.
So you're going to have to hold on.
When I talked about the fact that I had him ranked highest right when the UDK was released of the non-ashengentee rookies,
that was because of the presupposition that he would be the week one starter.
Yes.
That's not in the cards anymore.
He's not coming out week one and getting the bulk of the work.
Well, that's a good translation into this guy.
This is another play.
I think maybe we have to wait on a little bit more.
That's the storyline on a few of these is maybe we have to wait a little longer than we want.
But with Pittsburgh, Kenny Gainwell started up above.
I really like a man.
Johnson had like this.
That's the coach making him earn it.
Johnson had like, he got stuffed a bunch.
He had some good runs.
It was a mixed bag to me.
But Gainwell over Caleb Johnson right now,
it's Warren sitting with the starters.
No Rogers, no Warren.
Now Gainwell's playing ahead of Caleb.
We may have to wait a little bit longer on Mr. Caleb Johnson.
Just make sure if you're out there,
don't draft Caleb Johnson.
Just don't do it.
Let him fall to me really late.
I will scoop him up everywhere.
So you're not dissuaded by this?
No, I mean, it's funny because whenever you see you watch the video, you know, you see the film, you see someone tweet out, oh, look how great he looks or look how terribly it looks.
And it could be the exact same video.
You see what you want to see.
I want to see him look great.
He looks fine to me.
Like genuinely when I watch, I'm like, this is, other than the egregious drop last week, his film was good.
He broke some tackles, had some explosive plays.
He had a ton of great cutbacks this last week.
So I think he looks great.
AFC South Houston.
Chub played 11 of 14 snaps with C.J. Stroud.
Now, Damien Pierce couldn't work himself in.
He's still recovering from the quad injury.
But Chub played 11 of 14 with the starters.
It seems like if there's no mixing, Nick Chubb is like where does he belong in drafts?
late you know like if you're going with a more
zero RB approach he is probably someone who's just
gross that you can roll out there the first couple weeks
you know he will get opportunities
the Texans should be a good offense
so like you have a chance of a touchdown every single week
you know while he is the starter also with the Texans right now
it seems very solidified that it's Nico Collins and
Christian Kurt yeah and then the more
interesting thing is Xavier Hutchinson's been playing
ahead of Jaden Higgins. Jaden Higgins seems like
another guy. You may have to wait a little longer
before you get the benefits of
I don't think it'll be very long for him. Of that upside.
Okay. The Colts,
my one thing I wrote down,
Warren is awesome.
Yeah. 97%
of all snaps with starters through two
preseason games.
Deep downfield targets. I mean, he looks
awesome.
That is rookie tight-in, Tyler
Warren. Yeah, and this game,
Richardson was six for 11
for 73 yards
Jones was 7 for 11 for 101
neither of them really separated
both both had their good moments
who do you think is going to be the starter
week one well I
think I think that's an interesting question
because I think it should be Daniel Jones
if you I think he's the better player
it's really hilarious that he
looks like the stabilizing player for a
quarterback room because he is the least
stabilizing quarterback historically
but I think from a like
position standpoint as a team, like what's the easier thing to do? It's easier to me to give
Richardson the start. Yeah. Let him, let him, if he collapses again, you've got Daniel Jones
waiting. The other, the other thing in reverse seems a lot harder because you can't go away
from Richardson if you bring him in after Jones. It's harder to pull the, you know, you just look like
a circus. Emergency court. I mean, it's, it's, I mean, we know exactly what Daniel Jones is. We've,
we've seen years and years of him as a starting NFL quarterback. I think he's the better
quarterback, though. I think he's definitely the better
quarterback. I think he is right now. But it's
just your future and your ceiling.
The season starts Miami
at home. They're favored.
Then they're at home against Denver.
That's a tough defense. Then they go on the road
against Tennessee, not favored. Then they're
on the road against the Rams. I
don't know if that plays into your decision making.
Who you think they're going to start? I think they'll start
with Anthony Richardson, but
TBD. They, you know, they'll
announce it next week. I, as somebody
who wants to see Tyler Warren succeed early,
in the year. I want it to be Daniel Jones, me personally, but I think that unless Richardson
collapses in the third preseason game, I would give him the shot first if I'm the Colts,
because like you said, you're looking for one last shot at, you know, the Bryce Young
Redemption story, the let's give the guy a shot to be successful. If Daniel Jones is better,
it's still irrelevant. Like what Daniel Jones is, is not the future of a franchise that is a
successful NFL team. Probably true.
Jacksonville, Trevor Lawrence, through two games with Liam Cohen.
You ready for this?
14 of 17 for 119 and a touchdown.
Okay.
So Trevor Lawrence, you know, the redemption story of Baker with Liam Cohen,
among others.
But I mean, Lawrence, 14 for 17.
It's been good so far.
Pink Bigsby played every first and second down.
Travis E.T.N. played on both their depth.
That's a swapped weeks there.
That's the most interesting thing of everything we were hearing at a camp before
game started, preseason game started, was
that Tank Bigsby is the primary guy.
Like, he's the starter, and E.T.N has
his role. Then preseason week one
happens, and that was completely upside
down. And like, oh,
threw everything for a loop.
Now we're back to
Tank on first and second down.
It could parallel
Tampa, where he just came from. You've got
Biggsby could be the Bucky.
It could. The Rashad White could be the E.N.
And then the Sean Tucker could be
the Tooten. Which I
I wavered in my faith
after preseason week one
of which guy I want
not that we're not clamoring
to get the Jacksonville running backs in particular
but I'm still drafting
Tank Bigsby ahead of
Travis ETN. Yeah, if the starters play next week
that will be what to watch for.
Who gets first and second down between those two guys?
I think it's fun to talk about Tennessee
because Cam Ward seems like he is going to be the real deal at some point
now as a rookie, your production, you don't hit certain marks.
It just doesn't happen in the passing game very often.
But my takeaway from this was, I mean, you saw the rookie wide receivers getting a lot of snaps.
Now, Calvin Ridley, Tyler Lockett, they didn't play.
But Iommanner, D.K., they played a bunch of snaps.
I have a nickname for it's E.O. Manor, right?
But when I type his name into anything, it auto corrects it to Epic.
So he is now Epic Iommanner.
Okay, all right.
Let's hope he lives up to that.
as far as I'm concerned.
Take it easy.
So, but he was epic in this game.
He looked great.
He had a big connection with Cam Ward.
He was playing right next to Van Jefferson, so it's easy to look good.
Yeah, D.K.
I just think you look at this team, like, Lockett stage of his career.
We like, I like, I like Ridley a lot.
I think Ridley is a super great steel.
I just haven't said it a lot because he was a my guy last year and didn't quite end up there.
But, yeah, I think he is a steel at his ADP.
It will not be smooth sailing.
But I think IOMANOR could easily be their wide receiver too.
Easily.
I mean, you're talking about competing with Tyler Lockett,
who really hasn't been a two in a couple of years.
I mean, it was nice to see.
So finishing up the AFC, we're in the West.
Denver, you saw Sutton, Mims, and Valey all rested with the starters.
Franklin and Pat Bryant both played and looked good.
It almost makes it more confusing.
Yeah, you can do it now.
You can do it.
This is his time.
I mean, look, I think Troy Franklin, here's the real truth about Denver's wide receiver room.
Sutton, stable, good, drafting, playing.
I think then it's just going to be a hodgepodge every single week.
I mean, like, if Mims is sitting with the starters, and Vela is sitting with the starters,
and then Franklin and Pat Bryant get reps, and they both look good.
Like, Franklin's going to catch, what, three or four long touchdowns?
I mean, Pat Bryant could get involved, and he's the one that has the kind of like invisible upside.
We don't know how good he could be.
And Evan Ingram will be there to take plenty of targets as well.
that's true. I had almost nothing on the Chiefs, nothing too impactful. Elijah Mitchell still
seems to be the RB3. Pacheco played a couple of snaps. Hunt, but he's also banged up.
Yeah, he had the quad contusion and old. And older. So look, it's Pacheco Hunt, then Elijah Mitchell.
All right, help me with this one. And I'm going to give the shout out to Dwayne McFarland for
breaking down the wide receiver room for the Raiders. So Jacob Myers played 100% talking about
the Las Vegas Raiders wide receivers
Jacobi Myers played 100% of snaps with the starters
full-time slot
he played slot the entire time
then you've got
Deontay Thornton Jr.
Okay 25% target share with the
starters average depth of target
of 28.5 yards. Yeah he's a
nine guy. Yes. Seems
to have a firm grip on the wide receiver three
roll late round
deep sleeper but Trey Tucker was
also on the field for 100% of all passing plays
in the offense. Jack Bash did not
play until he got out there with the second unit. So Myers, Thornton, Tucker?
That does seem to be the starters. It'll be, it's interesting of like, is Thornton, I mean,
he's a later round pick than Jack Bass. Jack Bass was a second round pick, so it's disappointing
to see him not be able to get on the field. Meanwhile, a guy drafted after him is, but does
Thornton have like real upside or is he just a you know the way that they've used
Trey Tucker like just a real gadgety player who is big and fast that can help you do other things
on your offense but he can't really become a focal point I mean none of it's it's the time of
year where you got to talk about those guys we love Jack Bash's film there's two rookies here
competing so we want to know what's what it's all irrelevant the wide receiver three for this
team, and that's what this is, because
even though it's the wide receiver
too, Brock Bowers is there, and then
it's Jacobi Myers. The leftovers
split between
a couple of players. I mean, if we're being
realistic, these guys aren't going to be
week-in, week-out fantasy starters without
an injury ahead of them. Yeah,
and I would disagree if there was no Brock
Bowers. I would say, hey, there's an outside role
that's an opportunity on
the outside, but I think you're
dead on. Chargers-wise,
We talked about Quentin Johnston getting hurt.
The stars of this game, there were the two rookies.
So Kandre Lambert Smith, Trey Harris, both made plays.
Right now it seems like it goes Mconkey, Keenan, KLS.
Yeah, yeah.
And obviously, Quentin Johnston up there as well.
Trey Harris was with the twos.
He did not do his work.
But listening to Harbaugh, Harbaugh was glowing on both of those guys.
Harris had a great game.
He was behind.
He's behind on the depth chart right now.
All right.
So we'll take a break and we'll talk.
I'll run through the NFC teams and we'll do some mailback.
All right.
Let's start in the NFC East.
The Dallas takeaway,
Giovante rested with the starters.
Oh, man.
Miles Sanders played.
Okay.
So.
That whole, it's going to be tough.
That's why the answer is Cid Lam and N.
George. Yeah, exactly, because they're not going to be able to run the ball. Honestly, Blue is
like, Jaden Blue is the only running back I would take a shot on and it would be like if he makes it
to the last round in my draft. I'm not. I don't. It feels like a zero R.B situation, right?
He does, except I go back to, I mean, the Broncos were a good offense last year. The Broncos had
a better offensive line. How often could you have started Javante Williams last? Not very. He was a D
If you guessed right, you would have been able to start him three times.
He had a hundred.
He started for a lot of teams.
Man, 209 carries and you end up at...
If you're a running back with 70 targets for a good offense,
how are you not a top 15 running back, a top 24?
He was the running back 30.
But if you're in a league that gives like a hundred point bonuses,
if you're running back goes 14 for 40.
Then Javante's your guy.
Javante.
Second rounder.
All right.
So Javante is the best of the worst.
The Giants, Russ,
he can still throw the ball really, really far.
I watched every Jackson dart snap twice
because it was super impressive.
He completed 13 straight passes in this game.
It was all hurry up.
It was all short area targets, mostly.
I mean, there were a couple of good plays.
It's still.
You want to be accurate.
It's exciting.
Just the Fields would love to complete 13 straight passes.
Goodness, in his dreams.
With the Eagles,
it's the Shipley story to me.
I mean, Seiquon and Shipley, those guys rested.
Shipley looks locked as the RB2.
So if you're looking to ensure Saquan or take a shot late on somebody that could emerge in an injury, whatever, there's your guy, I think, right?
That's certainly how I lean.
And I think Shipley's a good back with that offensive line.
Something happens to Sequin after the massive 417 carry workload last year, then...
Yeah, still be in ship shape.
Ah, nice.
Okay.
Commanders, they haven't played the play tonight.
So NFC North, winners of every offseason,
champions of every off season.
Chicago Bears.
Caleb looked good.
97-yard touchdown drive 5 for 6 for 97 yards.
To Zakias, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, of course, right?
Because you've got what?
Like Colston, you've got Burden, you've got Adunzee,
you've got DJ Moore.
Colson had a couple catches.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, and it was we little man.
They, yeah, very nice.
They, the bears are going to be tough of like, are they going to play a lot of 12 personnel,
where I like Luther Burden a lot, but is this, is there a scenario where he's just not on the field
because they got, they got Commet and Lovelland out there.
Commet made a big play.
Lovellum made a big play.
They both split snaps in terms of like being on the field.
So that's the problem.
come at two years ago, or a year
ago, really, and he's a good
player. Yeah, he is. So it's like,
you know, this is a guy that's going to occasionally
just steal targets from Colston
Loveland, and he should.
I mean, that's how it should work
for the team to do well, not for your fantasy team, but for
the team. Yeah, it's wonderful for Caleb
Williams and Ben Johnson to have so
many legitimately good options.
It should
work. It should work. Especially with
the offensive line improvements.
It should work. Please do.
Detroit. They arrested the starters, but, Mike, if you need to go to the pants store again.
No. What? No. He avoids that place now. Can you delete a location off of your Google Maps?
The pants store? Oh, if he searches pants, nothing comes up. Make a choice. Mean. Do not buy stock.
We're talking about Isaac Tesla. Yes. Who five targets, four catches, 41 yards, and a beast of a touchdown in their preseason game. He also looks gigantic.
like he looks like
I mean he is he's a very large but I mean
there's plenty of wide receivers out there
that are 6-2 6-3 or whatever
he's 6-4-215 yeah he looks like he's 6-8
I mean I feel like he's just
maybe he's playing with more backups
and they're tiny but that's where I will
as excited as I am long term for Isaac
Tesla he was he's not
running with the starters no right now
but he will be interesting to keep an eye on
waiver-wise the
injuries as well they're my belief in the looking at the depth chart and the talent it's like
ominara and jamo are they're locked in test law and like a month in he could be the wide
receiver three well remember there were there were weeks where that over the last couple years
whether it was it was it josh reynolds was having a stretch tim patrick you know that that third
wide receiver has moments so if he shows enough flashes and they they paid a lot to get him
they did three third rounders essentially yeah yeah because they had to trade two to use a third
um that's a lot of capital to give up for someone who going into this draft season the NFL
draft i don't think enough people didn't know his name quite he was he had no production he was
overdrafted from expectation yes but he has had the drum beat all off season and then preseason
he looks good you got to start paying attention to tuss law they're a team that goes and gets the
guy that they think is going to make the biggest impact yes they do they're very
convicted about their players in the draft of late.
Green Bay, mostly all the starters rested.
I talked about Marshall and Lloyd getting hurt again.
I mean, you have to say it, Emmanuel Wilson is right now Josh Jacobs back up.
Yep.
And he's always kind of made the most of his opportunities.
Minnesota, everyone rested that mattered, nothing there.
Falcons, same story, first and second string, rested everybody.
But let's talk about Carolina.
Chuba Hubbard played 67% of the snaps with the starters.
He was, you know, he gave way to Rico Dowdle on third downs.
So that's kind of how, I mean, Chuba Hubbard was always the catch-it-and-fall-down guy last year with the targets,
but Dowdell seems like he'll have a shot to be a third-down back every week.
I think he should.
We've got two years in a row of Chuba being extraordinarily inefficient in the receiving game.
Great running back between the tackles, but passing to him has been like a negative play for them.
Neither of you find a way to say good things about the Saints.
It does seem like an actual battle for which bad quarterback is going to start.
Right.
It seems like Spencer Rattler is going to be the guy to me, from what I see on film.
Alave had a drop in the game.
Rattler was okay, but like Spencer Rattler as your as your quarterback.
Do you have a snake, man?
I think he's looking for a snake.
I got a snake, man.
I would say, what is your thoughts on the?
The one bright spot is Shaheed was moved around a little bit more in the slot.
a little bit more. So that'd be good if they
involve him on some easy stuff.
Because I feel like what Shaheed has always been
you go deep, I'm going to throw you
a bomb and you have big plays, but very
low consistency. It would be nice
because he's not a bad player. No, I think he's a very good player.
So if he could get more involvement there, that
could be good. You'll be excited about
the one-handed Emeka Egbuka grab.
Oh, I was. But for Tampa, I mean, he impressed.
And then McMillan...
And then McMillan got hurt.
And Godwin's on the pup.
It's like, Ibuka could be like...
The path is cleared.
Like, it's like week one, you're the starter with Mike Evans?
Yeah, it certainly seems that way.
Also, I was personally...
Like, I'm a Bucky Irving fan.
But I also acknowledge, like, you've got a committee situation.
There were some camp highlights of Bucky making downfield catches.
And it's like, okay, cool, that's camp.
He did it again in this game.
He caught, like, a deep...
touchdown on a wheel and made a competitive catch, if he gets involved more in the passing game,
because when he's out there, it's better that the defense has that in their minds that you have
a running back that's not just between the tackles guy. If they can get him involved in the passing
game, it changes his ceiling. Oh, for sure. I mean, that would be what takes his current
average draft cost and actually makes it payoff. Because right now it feels like he's being drafted
near his ceiling
because he didn't have that
So I'm looking at you know
I'm in the UDK right now looking at it
On Sleeper
In half he is behind
Jonathan Taylor now
Is he fallen though
He was definitely ahead of Jonathan Taylor
Yeah I thought so too
So Josh Jacobs is at 8
Taylor's at 9 buck he's at 10
Oh yeah
Okay
Okay
Yeah that's fine
I think when we started this process
He was 7
He was running back 7
Where it was like gosh
That's like
When he had his
breakout he was basically about running mag seven and we were wondering how high could you go. And if you
don't have targets, people are hurt in the wide receiver room. It can benefit the running back
room. Two teams in the NFC West pretty much rested everybody and didn't do much. Cardinals,
they rested everybody. Brissette's their backup to Kyler. He looked okay. And then the Ram's same
story. It was Stets and Bennett. Corum ran ahead of Hunter. That was only note I had to mention
for backups for Kyrin.
We did get a photo of Matthew Stafford.
No, sorry, this is the video.
Matthew Stafford at practice.
At least walking out there.
Yep.
Today?
That's a big deal.
It is.
Okay.
All right.
Stay safe.
Be healthy.
We need you.
49ers.
Pearsall looked great.
He's going to, I mean, he was a starter.
He might be one of the most undervalued players in fantasy because I think he's
going like wider shooter 45 or something stupid.
and no Iyuk, no Jennings.
Jennings is dealing with contract and injury.
I would also say, like, nobody talks about DeMarcus Robinson,
but DeMarcus Robinson has been a fantasy contributor before.
Right.
And is currently, like, I know he's probably going to get a suspension.
That's what we're waiting on for him.
But regardless, like him being, I'm telling,
the way he's playing with the starters,
like, okay, if he gets a game or two.
Like, is Iyuk back in a game or two?
No.
Yeah, I mean, like, Jennings still hurt?
like they have to run wide receivers out there so
Pierceall seems like a highly undervalue player
Pierceall's early camp injury was really great for the ADP
because he was you know he missed camp last year with the injuries
had you know the unfortunate shot
and then this year he was starting to get drafted pretty high
you know a lot of hype because of the depth chart
and then when he missed time to start camp people just forgot about him
So I agree with you, Andy.
I think his value, where he's going in drafts, is you can see his upside and you can't always see the players around him with a path to greatness.
All right.
And the final team, and I have a few notes on him, Seattle.
First of all, the offense was humming.
It looked great.
Charbonnet looked awesome.
He's healthy.
Right now, Ken Walker's on his quote, he's on a plan.
I don't like the way you talk about the plane, Andy.
I'm sorry, the plan. Have you ever had a plan?
You follow it.
Now the plan for the Seahawks might be Charbonnet being more involved than you think.
What do you think of that plan?
I didn't read that in the plan.
So I don't know where you're picking that up.
He definitely could be.
It could be more, more, like that's, if I had a plan for Ken Walker that involved him not practicing every once in a while,
it might involve other players playing running back too.
It definitely could be the plan that it's more timeshare.
The way I just look at the C-Walker,
Seattle situation.
One, like, yeah, Charbonate, you know, last year came in on a couple games
because Ken Walker missed his time.
He has to rest.
Yeah.
And, you know, Charbonate looked better last year.
He has to rest.
He did it.
He burns real bright.
He has to rest.
I'm more excited about just the, this was the hope, the scheme, that even though
the offensive line is not talent-wise what we want.
It might be better than we think.
That, that Cub-B, yeah, maybe the line's better than we think.
And also, the Cubiac run system is just.
just such a good run system, and while Charbonnet is a good player, and maybe he gets more
involved than we want, Ken Walker is, when healthy, is a much better player than Charbonneas,
in my opinion, a much, much better, more explosive running.
I think he's better at a lot of things, not everything, but it is possible that Sam Darno could
legit be the quarterback to the unexpectedly better offenses back-to-back seasons.
I am so excited to be doubting Sam Darnold
and then have him prove us all wrong.
That'll be fun, but I'm going to doubt you.
Kevin O'Connell and then Kubiak,
those are good minds.
Speaking of the wide receivers in the past catchers,
Cooper Cup lined up inside of JASN on most all of their reps.
So you were talking about two guys that are slot dominant players,
Cooper Cup, in the slot more.
It's also worth noting that the, you know, athletically gifted,
you know, they let go of Noah Fant,
Elijah Arroyo right now,
played as the Titan three, played into the fourth quarter.
A.J. Barner seems...
Hey, J. Barner,
he played...
He's a veteran. I like him.
Look, AJ Barner's a second-year guy.
And he played eight of ten snaps of Sam Darnold.
So for Seattle, that was the story,
and that was week two of the preseason
in terms of a quick takeaway for every team.
All of the UDK rankings,
I did a huge rankings update yesterday.
We'll keep tweaking them this week and get you ready for your drafts.
We're going to, yeah, Brooks would like you guys to know,
AJ Barner had one less touchdown than DK McHaff did in the offense last year.
Okay.
So, AJ Barner fan, Brooks, Carmine.
All right, let's do some mailbag.
Mailbag.
Why is Richard Nixon coaching these teams?
I'm not a Brooke.
Oh, my gosh.
You guys got a lot of sleep last night?
Oh, man.
I didn't sleep at all.
This weekend was...
Oh, that's fun.
Yeah.
That's a good time.
It's a good time.
No, I had a solid eight hours of sleep.
Combined.
Yeah, over the last four days.
So that's an old school coach.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
That's the college coach that's up in the face of all the players screaming and yelling.
Yeah.
All right, let's start some mailback.
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We'll go ahead and start with the voicemail.
Hey, ballers, you're fan of the show.
Quick question.
Our league manager took away the IR spot
and made it into a regular bed spot.
Is this a good idea or is it the same
as if you were just to have,
or better if you were to have an open spot?
Thanks.
It's certainly not the same.
Yeah.
Those are different things.
Yeah.
First of all, we don't know how many bench spots you have.
So he's wondering, is it better to replace an IR with just a full regular bench spot?
I would say that if you usually have four bench spots, yeah, sure, because I think you probably don't have enough bench at another bench.
The downside with adding too many bench spots is it makes the waiver wire not as fun.
the fewer people out there to bid over and compete over every single week.
So how many bench spots do you guys usually prefer to have?
Five.
Yeah, five.
Yeah, that's where I land.
I think it's okay to have a deeper bench as long as you have the people in the league
are for that of knowing that it's going to be a shallow league.
Deeper benches are fun if you have deeper starting roster spots.
If you've got a double flex, that's great.
because what it does is it still makes the waiver wire interesting
because you're going to be needing to play some garbage.
DeMarcus Robinson is like important then.
Yeah, so it does impact obviously the amount of talent
that'll be out on the waiver wire if you convert and add one more bench spot
because everybody's going to, not everybody's got somebody on IR,
but everybody will have a fifth bench player, a six bench player.
So it'll take 12 names off the waiver wire right there.
Good or bad decision?
That's league specific, I think.
think. I like there being an IR spot in general, though. I don't really love they're not being
an IR spot. It just handcuffs teams in too big of a way, I think. If you're in a league right now
that's getting ready to go for next year and you don't have IR, you should bring that up for a vote.
Having an IR spot is so good. It's more fun. It's better strategy. It feels like it really sucks
when you have an injury and you don't have a guy to drop
and you're forced to drop someone injured.
Like, the NFL has IR, at IR to your league.
All right. Kyle from Instagram writes in,
are people sleeping on Bryce Young as a fantasy football flyer?
They are starting the year at Jacksonville,
at Arizona, underdogs and those,
then at home against Atlanta,
and then on the road against New England.
Mike, you've spoken very highly of Bryce Young
in terms of making that offense move.
I think that that, I think he's a fine.
flyer you know after the by week he was on pace for 430 rushing yards so like that's the thing is
Bryce has to give us at least something like that for him to make his way into the top 12 he
will be a streaming option I'm excited for the Carolina Panthers offense to see if he
really takes that step moving forward so as a flyer sure but there the quarterback position has
so many guys late where you're like, no, that guy's a flyer or a sleeper, so
Bryce isn't super high on that list for me.
He's not one of your targets, but you could certainly see how it works.
Addie Tetaroa McMillan, I think Jatavian Sanders is a pretty darn good young, tight end.
He's got enough weapons to throw the ball to.
If he keeps running, if he's going to finish the year with 450 rushing yards,
he could very easily be a top, you know, 15 quarterback.
Mikey from Instagram, how should I view CJ Stroud this year?
like he was a player we talked about incessantly all last off season and almost not at all
this off season you know you just you just brought up bryce young is he a potential flyer like cj
stroud is a level above that but never discussed at all i don't know that he is a level above that
and just in the sense that you're you're not going to be rushing the ball no um you know last year what did
he have 233 rushing yards yeah so he's a pocket passer the offensive line has gotten worse the run
games seems banged up an older, you got Nico, that's great, but you've got to have other players
here step up. And if you look at his consistency versus Bryce Young's, like CJ Stroud's an F in
our consistency score this last year, because without running the ball, you've got to throw
4,030 touchdowns as a pocket passer. And that's, I feel like it's an uphill battle to do that
with his current weapons.
All right.
YouTube question.
What is Calvin Ridley's floor with rookie quarterback Cam Ward?
Last year he was a my guy.
He was up over a thousand yards receiving in spite of what?
The Will Levis Mason Rudolph Disgusto Fest.
But, you know, with rookie quarterbacks, we have data over the last 14 years.
Only seven receivers got up over a thousand.
yards with a rookie quarterback, so 28%, only one rookie quarterback supplied 10 plus
receiving touchdowns for a wide receiver.
It was Jaden Daniels last year with McLaren.
Before that happened, we had the data.
We brought it up on the show.
It didn't happen, ever.
Like, you just couldn't do it.
Yeah, the thing for the situation, if you have a rookie quarterback, your target share
has to be extremely high.
Like, it has to be a 26, 27% type of target share.
Calvin Ridley could do that.
You know, the excitement is
for the rookies, and he's really the
established main guy there. So
if he's getting that, then
you'll end up being excited.
Oh.
Breaking news. What you got?
The Cleveland Browns have named
Joe Flacco as their official
week one, starting quarterback
against the Cincinnati
Bengals. Oh, baby.
Okay. David Nogoku
Week one. Draft David Nogoku.
Jerry Judy, week one.
We'll see.
Week one, baby.
Nijoku is the huge benefactor.
We'll see on the wide receivers.
Oh, Jerry Judy will be great week one.
Again, this is against the Bengals.
Oh, yeah.
They're going to have to score a ton, and it's not a very difficult defense.
So after that, trade them.
Week one and trade them.
How many games does Joe Flacco start for the Browns out of 17?
okay well let's run let's run through the the schedule is not good for them
Cincinnati it could happen I think let's say they win that game
the Cincinnati gets off to slow starts okay let's just give it to them for okay
whatever just to be crazy just to be crazy at Baltimore
nah green bay I'm going to give it to the Packers okay at Detroit
Detroit Minnesota winnable at home
Cleveland? Yeah.
So, the Browns,
he's going to play like 12 games
or more. He's going to play
enough that I'm all in... I mean, who are they
going to play? Yeah. Bill and Gabriel?
No? I do her, no.
I feel like this means... Pickett? Pickett doesn't
make the roster. I mean, maybe... Like if I was
the Brown's general manager, the only
right path has always been,
you either name Flacko the starter or
Kenny Pickett the starter, and then you keep the two rookies
and you move forward. You know,
maybe they keep four
quarterbacks. No, no, no. I think
I think that's the move is you've got to try and
trade Kenny Pickett. It's tough because
pickets the best of those other guys. You'll have to get up a six.
Pickett's the best of those guys by far.
By far. Yeah, so Joe Flacco's
the starter. It's good for fantasy and
hopefully that will last a little bit, but man, they're underdogs in the first
eight weeks. Oh, no, they're, sorry, let me correct that. They're
favored by one and a half in week seven against Miami.
but otherwise they're under dogs
seven of the first eight
oh no they are dogs there
never mind they're underdogs and all of them
they're underdogs they're just
it's not as bad
it is the dog pound
so they are dogs they got the dog in them
yeah um wow
all right uh jason
instagram question from jb who will have a better
season as a rookie
rj harvey or caleb johnson
rj harvey
you know i'm harvey
i'm not going to answer this question
stupid Arthur Smith
Okay
Nothing I'm not going to
I'm not going to lecture you on
Players whose name begins with K
and ends with Johnson
Thank you
Your rookie season thank you
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Hey ballers
What is some input and advice
That you would give to those of us
That are in keeper leagues
Thanks guys
So general keeper league advice
One of the things people tend to do
Is hyper-emphasize
they're keepers
and the truth
is if you're in a keeper league
unless it's some exhaustive
huge amount which borders on dynasty
you're keeping a couple guys
maybe it's one two, three players
sometimes it's at a draft cost
sometimes it's just a
no cost at all
but you see people kind of
building their roster around this ideal
that they're going to have
you know you get this name on your team
and he's going to be your keeper
for five years in a row
and they're locked and loaded on your team
and it's just very very rare
in the lifespan of players
to live under that
in that world
and I see people
lock themselves in
they don't want to trade players
because of that
you're not
your keepers are going to
turn over all the time
yeah the biggest
mistake people make
in keeper leagues
is over emphasizing age
age matters a lot
in dynasty
you know if you're 26 deep
and you've got that roster
forever but when you've got
three guys
James Connor can be a keeper
no problem
a great keeper no problem
and he's an elder statement
Like, you don't need statesmen.
You don't need...
His statement is old.
Statement.
He makes old statements.
To over-emphasize the youth.
And so I would basically treat it almost exactly like a redraft.
Yeah, I mean, a perfect example would be like if somebody's excited about R.J. Harvey.
And they're like, man, I'm not going to trade him for sake one because...
You know what I mean?
In a keeper league, it's like, oh, man, he's going to be good in a few years.
It's like, go win the league.
Because there other...
That's the mistake the other league mates are going to make, at least some of them.
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