Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - 32 Preseason Takeaways + Key Questions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/18

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Aug 18, 2025. Preseason reactions and worrisome injuries! Andy, Mike, and Jason recap Week 2 of preseason action. How concerned should we be about A.J. Brown and De’Von Ach...ane? Who’s the starting RB for the Jaguars? Lots of news and updates out of preseason and training camp! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2025 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT + Draft Analyzer available now at UltimateDraftKit.com(00:00) Intro(03:29) NFL News(17:47) Week 2 Preseason Recap (50:05) Mailbag(51:03) IR vs Bench Spots (53:28) Bryce Young sleeper pick?(54:33) CJ Stroud 2025 Outlook(59:24) RJ Harvey vs Kaleb Johnson(59:47) General Keeper League AdviceConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Fantasy Footmullers Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Monday, August 18th, the fantasy footballers podcast back with you. Week two of the preseason, almost in the books, in the rearview mirror. We got one more game. Get some Bengals commanders tonight, but we'll talk preseason week two takeaways. I jotted down something for every team that we can blitz through and then I'm going to I'm going to translate the takeaways into a fantasy question for you gentlemen and then you guys
Starting point is 00:01:09 can tell me how things are going by way of rankings and adjustments and give you a yes or a no nice oh to the question that's the kind of analysis also I have to ask it a yes or no no you can ask whatever question you want that's just but you're getting a yes or a no yeah you guys how many yards and I'll be like yes you guys had a long week weekend. We did. Yeah, we did. We were at a wedding. You were, you were out of town. In the middle of August. And now I'm very sleepy, but we're here. We're hyped. You were, it wasn't like a normal destination. It was just like you were kind of, you traveled a ways to get there. It was a destination. It was certainly not
Starting point is 00:01:46 close. But you're back. We are. And we've got a lot of news to cover. We've got mailbag on the show as well. If we have some time, we got a big announcement. If you're, if you're, I told you, man. Mike is, things are going to be wacky today. Today's going to be wild, but we've got great stuff for you. The filters are off. Yeah, I got picked up on that when you just went, Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Yeah, yeah, welcome in, everybody. Look, we did have a tips and tricks show last week, and we said don't overreact to the preseason, but you don't want to under react either. So you've got to find that balance, and we're going to try to do that today. Like I said, we've got to. some takeaways. But the big
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Starting point is 00:03:01 We're answering questions, and we're doing those giveaways live on the show this afternoon. Ultimate draft kit.com. If you already purchased the UDK, you're entered to win in the giveaway this afternoon already. And if you are going to draft soon and don't have the UDK, it is the number one tool to help you win your draft. So you can check that out, Ultimate draft kit.com. I want to jump right in because we've got news to cover and then we've got all these preseason takeaways. and there's just a lot to get through, so we'll jump. We'll jump in right now.
Starting point is 00:03:34 News and notes from Around the League, presented by progressive insurance. And Brooksie would like me to remind you there's another very big announcement tomorrow. Oh, just tease. It's just a tease. It's just a monster. There's just a little. A monster tease. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I'm sleepy. wake me up tomorrow all right well we didn't get to cover this because we had just recorded before we got this news but the Cleveland Browns there are always updates around the Browns Quinn Sean Judkins who was at one point this off
Starting point is 00:04:14 season other than Ashton Genty was some of our favorite when I finished outing the UDK he was the second highest I mean obviously Genti being like a first round pick was super high but he came out highest in my expected projections for 2025. So it's been quite a roller coaster
Starting point is 00:04:32 because he's gone from probably the second best pick potentially at running back to I don't know if he plays football this year or signs with the Browns to now the news. Which is that in a statement Thursday in an NFL
Starting point is 00:04:50 spokesperson said the league had been quote following developments in the matter. He won't face formal misdemeanor battery charges over an alleged domestic incident in South Florida last month. He is still unsigned. He does not have a contract with the Browns. Right now, if you watch the preseason game,
Starting point is 00:05:12 Jerome Ford, Dylan Samson both didn't play because they rested with the starters. So those are the two players that are lunged up to play running back. You know, obviously Nick Chubb departed this offseason. Jerome Ford came back. Quintan Judkins was supposed to be the future. Mm-hmm. Number 36 pick, a very talented running back that was going to be the new Nick Chubb.
Starting point is 00:05:33 So now we know he's not facing charges. The NFL can still suspend him. I'm going to project they still will. Right now, Jimmy Haslam said he's cautiously optimistic that he'll play for the team in 2025. That's all we have. No contract yet. Yeah. He said that back in July.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah. This is new news because it looked like he was definitely, you know, going to have charges brought against him. I mean, he was arrested. So now there is a chance, there is a chance that he doesn't get suspended and is available for the entire season. Which he has not practiced and played with the team yet.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And so that'll be something to, you know, from an onboarding perspective, how much do they trust them? When do they trust them? All of that. But we'll follow that news and get along to you as we get it. There was news, I believe, yesterday, that the commanders had been shopping Brian Robinson,
Starting point is 00:06:25 Jr. to teams around the NFL. If you remember Brian Robinson Jr. and I believe Austin Eckler are both on the final years of their contracts with the commanders. Jacori Kroski, Merritt, has gotten a lot of off-season hype and buzz. He was a seventh round pick. He had very little
Starting point is 00:06:41 production in college. He had one year at, I think it's New Mexico or New Mexico State. And then he transferred and played one game in Arizona. That's it. That's all he had. He had a very productive one year. The nastiest of nasty boys, Mike, if you want to hit that drop. but we're at the point.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Do you have a giant drop board now? I've had this forever, man. Oh, really? Yeah. You got the big boy over there. Well, it's, I got, I got these fun knobs and things, too. Oh, you got all the buttons.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah, I do, but I can swipe between. It just caught my eye. I didn't know if you were going to be firing off some sound effects through the show. Uh, got any horns and whistles? No, the producers have wisely not given me very many options. Just knobs that do nothing so you can feel like you're doing something. That's great.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I look like I'm real busy over here, guys. But let's talk about this. Brian Robinson, and maybe the team feels comfortable enough with Croskey Merritt working in with Echler that they were willing to shot Brian Robinson. We don't know a lot more than that one report. Yeah, it's such a weird thing to come out and be. They are going to play football soon. Yeah, I mean, as of right now, Brian Robinson is the presumed 1A of the backfield for a good
Starting point is 00:07:51 offense. He's been a target. Both him and Austin Echler have been targeted. targets because you're talking double-digit, you know, 10-plus round in your draft where they're going to score fantasy points. So if he left, that would be very interesting for Lil Bill as Jacori goes by. Yeah. And or Austin Eckler. And just to add Andy more context. He really only had one year of true production. I mean, he played a lot of years of college. Like he played at Alabama State. And then he went to
Starting point is 00:08:25 a big program in New Mexico and then transferred to U of A where he got 13 carries so I struggle very much with this situation of this he's 24 years old he was a seventh round pick and I know yes
Starting point is 00:08:42 late round guys come out of nowhere sometimes like Isaiah Pacheco I'll just bring up who everyone wants to bring up Alfred Morris because he was a he was that for the literal same team and they they want to project that on to Kroski Marrick But the, you know, for, for ever, Isaiah Pacheco, it did work out eventually. You know, like, I believe his rookie year, it wasn't spectacular for fantasy football,
Starting point is 00:09:05 but he did take the job. But it's just reminder. Remember, uh, Kamani Vidal Sassoon? Oh, yeah. Everyone loved him. That dude's going to take over the chart. Like, it's very difficult for day three guys to truly take over. But this is, you got at least pay attention.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, we, we can name them because they're so. few. Yes. Steve Slayton and Philip Lindsay and, you know, a handful of guys over the years. But if Brian Robinson was traded, that just makes him relevant immediately. If Robinson is traded, it's a huge deal because he will be, Kraski Merritt would take that role. Terry McCloran activated off the pop, but he doesn't have the contract he wants yet. You need to activate that money.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah. He's not activated off of the business, yeah. Like, yeah. The business pop? Yeah, the one that, hey, it worked for James. financially unable to perform? Yes. The fop?
Starting point is 00:09:59 I don't like that. Hey. Tom Pelliserro, your favorite guy, Mike. Oh, who's we hyping up now? He's just saying it's still a possibility that Rashi Rice and the NFLPA and everybody come to an agreement on a settlement for a suspension that would allow them to be suspended at the beginning of the year instead of waiting. We did have an update. So the last report was, you know, that they're waiting four weeks or so into the season. before he even has his true meeting here
Starting point is 00:10:27 with his judge, which we got some more context on that, was what I saw from the rumor mill that the league was coming after like 10 games. Yes. And the Rashid Rice gave was like, oh no, we are not going to take that.
Starting point is 00:10:43 So we're going to move forward as far if possible into having an independent person look at it. So there is a judge who was not able schedule-wise to fit this to look at this case for the four weeks, that was the reason for the delay. But as of right now, as of right now, between weeks four and five, he's going to have his
Starting point is 00:11:06 moment to speak with, is it a judge? I believe it is. It's a disciplinary hearing with the same judge that covered the Deshaun Watson suspension situation. It could take her time from the end of the hearing to her decision in one, two, three, four, five weeks. It came quick. It came quick with Deshaun Watson, I believe. I thought you took some time. It's up in the air of this is still extremely messy
Starting point is 00:11:31 and you're going to have to make your own personal decision of how much Rishie Rice risk are you on. I think they'll get to a settlement. I think we'll hear something. But A.J. Brown's still not practicing, which is not great. No. We're getting closer to the season. That's a heads up for you.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I had to increase the risk rating and lower a little bit of my projection for A.J. Brown just out of hedging. The Eagles then went and traded for John Metchy from the Texans in exchange for Harrison Bryant and a day three pick swap. John Metchie was he was a player that there was a lot of excitement for. He underwent cancer
Starting point is 00:12:03 treatment. Yeah, he lost his rookie year to treating his cancer, yes. And then we had, he just hasn't been able to kind of work himself into the rotation enough. So new chance with Philadelphia and they do this. They find a way to just grab some guys that haven't had the opportunities that they think maybe they deserve.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah, they went and got Dotson. Yep. After, you know, it's like these are, these were, they've got wide receivers who were supposed to be better than they, you know, performed on the NFL field. But John Metchie is reunited with Devante Smith. They were both at Alabama together. That's fun. Yep. We've got more injury updates. Malik Neighbors is dealing with a back injury.
Starting point is 00:12:38 So back shoulder toe. Yeah. It's just normal back tightness. That is the quote. That was the quote. It's just normal back tightness. This is great news for me because that's how I wake up every day. And it's normal.
Starting point is 00:12:50 League neighbors. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, pretty similar athletic profile, but also normal back tightness. Yes. Mike McDaniel says he's currently not concerned about some big news, Devon A-chan, who's dealing with a lower body soft tissue issue. And, you know, I saw some medical experts talk about this basically saying,
Starting point is 00:13:14 look, if this was hamstring, because the quote from McDaniel was days and weeks. If it was hamstring, it would be weeks automatically. So he's kind of ruling out hamstring. He's kind of leaning towards this is either groin adduct or something like that. Well, there's one way to find out. Is he on the index? I'm checking. Well, he might, the reason he might not be telling us what's hurting is because he doesn't want to end up on groin index.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah, they do that now. They don't have to fully report it. So this is not great, though, because A. Chan is, he's an undersized back. He has an injury history, although last year he made it through. but previously to that he had an injury history and then we're going to talk more in the preseason takeaways about the backup options there but A. Chan right now
Starting point is 00:13:56 not concerned about his week one availability but I don't like any preseason injuries at this point speaking of which Joe Mixin is still quote not considered a lot to be ready for the week one game against the Rams there was a picture viral picture spreading from a podiatrist this weekend with he was featured with Joe Mixon
Starting point is 00:14:17 And it was like, hey, I'm so happy to be part of Joe Mixon's recovery team. And this was like a podiatrist, a foot guy talking about this. So there's something going on with the foot. He's still on the NFI. And I've seen a couple of unsubstantiated reports of people pulling them off their board completely. But again, it's like, could this dude just show up in week one? You got to hedge a little bit. He's not a safe draft pick.
Starting point is 00:14:41 No. There are a few guys. We're getting to the time of year now where these are, it's so hard to remember that this isn't just some piece of paper week one game like this is a human being who either is able to play football or isn't hasn't been able to this whole offseason we're 17 days away from NFL games being played you have to you know you have to get out there right now mixing stafford these guys who have just spent the entire off season unable to play football scare the tarnation out of me like I I certainly am not drafting any of them at ADP
Starting point is 00:15:17 in Stafford's situation. He affects everybody. That's hurting all Rams. And we'll talk about the backup options there in our preseason takeaways as well. Quentin Johnston, or sorry, yeah, Quentin Johnston went down. Yeah, he got parted off, concussion symptoms. This is in the preseason game. Same with Jaliel, uh, sorry, Jalen McMillan, who that, that looked very painful as well.
Starting point is 00:15:40 He folded up and got hurt and we'll talk about the wide receivers for the Buccaneers, but the most recent report is that, he, quote, avoided anything major, which is good news. Keaton Mitchell, hamstring injury, running back for the Ravens, depth of peace behind Derek Henry. The 49ers, dude, what? Mercy. You can add, that's, they're just all yelling mercy.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Mercy, have mercy on us. You can add Patrick Taylor and Corey Kiner, both running backs. I don't even know who Corey Kiner has. Never heard that name of my life. Yeah, well, he was taking like significant snaps because Garindo, Jordan James, Amir Abdullah, all out. Patrick Taylor dislocated shoulder, kinder, high ankle sprain. Right now, is this the only way to keep CMC healthy?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Is he, like, siphoning their health? Yes, he is, yeah. Yeah, Keishon, Vaughn, and Jeff Wilson are healthy. My name is Jeff. They have both of those players. Kishon Vaughn and Jeff Wilson. We're back, man. Get on your knees and pray because you're about to go down.
Starting point is 00:16:37 This is like, what's the most recent, that movie that just came out again? Oh, Final Destination? Final Destination. Yeah, it's taking everyone. Running back room. You know, Pat. Marshawn Lloyd, he played in the preseason game. He hurt himself in the preseason game.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Marshaun Lloyd had a great reception, looked, you know, explosive, people in camp, very explosive. Hamstring, now injured. He's too explosive. So he is. Or his muscles. I mean, basically he's going to start the season hurt again. And it's not going to be him as the backup for Josh Jacobs. And it's awful because you're never going to see him play football.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Last year, it feels like it. Last year he had a hip injury, a hamstring strain, an ankle sprain, and appendicitis. Oh, mixing that in? And then he's starting this year off with the groin strain earlier, finally gets back, and now hamstring again. All right, that was news and note, sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com, Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers, not available in all states or situations, coverage, subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions. All right, we will take a break, and let's jump into some preseason.
Starting point is 00:17:46 All right, we had a second week of preseason football, only one week left of preseason to kind of figure out some things about these players and see them on the field. Time to talk. Takeaways. Preseason power up. All right, gentlemen, I am going to. Oh, the papers are out. I got the papers out.
Starting point is 00:18:14 The papers. I'm going to blitz these. don't want people out there to think that I'm going to be exhaustive about every single one of these games, teams, or players. That is not what this is going to be. This is going to be just some kind of headline takeaways for each and every team.
Starting point is 00:18:28 There were a couple teams that literally just didn't play first and second stringers at all, and those teams don't have takeaways. But I'm just going to ask some questions about fantasy based on what we're seeing. For Buffalo, they really played no starters. The one thing that was significant to me, Ray Davis,
Starting point is 00:18:44 played. And Ty Johnson, James Cook, they didn't play. So from a depth chart perspective, I think that's a little bit interesting because I don't look at Ty Johnson at this juncture of his career to be anybody that's a threat to James Cook at all. He is a very complimentary player, where Ray Davis, young, sophomore player, explosive, him playing in the third spot really feels like it's another boost to James Cook who just signed the contract, like just being secure.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I feel like it's a statement that, you know, Cook is the starter. and Ty Johnson, he has his role. And Ray Davis is James Cook's backup. I think that's fair. Jason, with Miami and A-chan getting hurt. We did have Jalen Wright play ahead of Ollie Gordon in this game. Yeah. But Ollie Gordon was great again.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And Jailen Wright was like 0.8 to carry. Is he just not good? Yeah, before this game. Yeah, no, I think that's the issue. I think Jalen Wright is not good. It's not being good at the game. I mean, his vision is terrible. he's a great athlete. The rookie year was
Starting point is 00:19:47 left a lot wanting and we're already in a place of like, hey look at it. In Ollie Gordon, it was a day three guy. Yeah, he already looks better. I want to say he was round six, around seven. I think that's the headline Ollie Gordon from a depth perspective. A chance is hurt right now. Prior to this week of
Starting point is 00:20:03 preseason football, I personally chose to give Ollie Gordon higher stats than Jalen Wright, which is very against the grain. But I just don't think Jalen Wright is good enough if he proves me wrong
Starting point is 00:20:19 the opportunity there in that backfield is great. Jalen Wright among 89 rookie running backs with 70 or more touches since 2017 Wright ranked dead last in yards per touch. So it's just to put a number to how kind of stinky it was last year. He can sprint.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah. Yeah. His 40 yard dash excellent work. But the vision thing like they wanted they're talking about making him the goal line back. That's what the opportunity they gave him in the first week of the preseason. They were stuffed again. They're the worst short yardage team in football. Maybe Ollie Gordon's part of that solution. I don't know if Derek Henry could be a successful goal line back there. Yeah, I mean, it's just...
Starting point is 00:20:52 Let's not be hyperbolic, Jason. He'd be fine, he'd be fine. He'd be better for sure. I'm just saying they've got a really bad office of line. All right, by the way, AFC East is where I'm starting here. New England. First sentence, Trevion seems inevitable. Thoughts, Mike?
Starting point is 00:21:11 I'm never going back to the past. I believe we know Mike's yes or no. answer to that question. So he took all the third downs with the starters in this game. You didn't take anything from Antonio Gibson being the actual starter. I was going to say Antonio Gibson was the, we got to make the rookie earn it. Was the procedural starter. Is that old man coach? Yes, it is. Can we be like a rookie? Very similar to unleash him. Unleash him unless you don't want to win. He'll be unleashed. So the question is, is how unleashed will he be in ADP? And do you overspend on him because he's so sexy yeah and like he it would there will be a time share i just
Starting point is 00:21:50 think that henderson is so good he will be the leader of that speaking uh and efton chisholm chat out to you yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah another amazing performance uh the new york jets speaking of time shares braylin allen took all man listen he took all third downs that was so weird and he was seven for 34 i think briefs was like six for 36 or something like that they were it's going to be a time share in New York but the past catching has been the like saving grace caveat and I know third down is not everything right
Starting point is 00:22:22 you watch this game and there's two takeaways one the committee situation and two I know Mike doesn't want to hear it so I'm going to tell you Jason just me and you I'm willing to hear it because I know what you're going to say Justin Fields is not a good past year he's not he's not Garrett Wilson is going to be hurt by Justin Fields he it's not good vibes right now
Starting point is 00:22:42 No. I mean, we have, there's no receiver that has shown us that opportunity mixed with bad quarterback play does not equal fantasy success more than Garrett Wilson. He's had the targets. What, the most ever in three years or something like that? Yeah. So it is depressing to see. Yeah, he had 168 targets and finished as the wide receiver 32 that same year. Yeah, and Justin Fields, like these were bunnies in this game that he missed. He was one for five passing, I believe. But they were, you're talking about like Bruce Hall for a dump off. You know what I mean? Like, over his head. Like little, it's only five passes. It's not the whole season. You don't overreact to it. But you also like understand that Justin Fields has played for three teams now. Like if he was the super answer for a team, the worst team in football doesn't easily sign you. So that's the concern there. AFC North. I literally have nothing for Baltimore. All the all the starters rested Cincinnati. They haven't played. So no takeaways. Future takeaways. They played tonight. Cleveland, I mentioned it, Samson and Ford. Those guys rested with the starters. we're waiting on Quinshawn Judkins.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Do you have any gauge of like, if Judkins signs tomorrow? Is it just, that's the guy you take the shot on late in drafts? You don't worry about the other guys? Yeah, I would take him ahead of the other guys. He's the best running back on the roster. They drafted him to be their main start. It will take time, though. You're going to have to hold for a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:24:01 A rookie who has no training camp whatsoever. I mean, I guess if he signed tomorrow, he gets a couple weeks, but they're already making plans. So you're going to have to hold on. When I talked about the fact that I had him ranked highest right when the UDK was released of the non-ashengentee rookies, that was because of the presupposition that he would be the week one starter. Yes. That's not in the cards anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:26 He's not coming out week one and getting the bulk of the work. Well, that's a good translation into this guy. This is another play. I think maybe we have to wait on a little bit more. That's the storyline on a few of these is maybe we have to wait a little longer than we want. But with Pittsburgh, Kenny Gainwell started up above. I really like a man. Johnson had like this.
Starting point is 00:24:50 That's the coach making him earn it. Johnson had like, he got stuffed a bunch. He had some good runs. It was a mixed bag to me. But Gainwell over Caleb Johnson right now, it's Warren sitting with the starters. No Rogers, no Warren. Now Gainwell's playing ahead of Caleb.
Starting point is 00:25:04 We may have to wait a little bit longer on Mr. Caleb Johnson. Just make sure if you're out there, don't draft Caleb Johnson. Just don't do it. Let him fall to me really late. I will scoop him up everywhere. So you're not dissuaded by this? No, I mean, it's funny because whenever you see you watch the video, you know, you see the film, you see someone tweet out, oh, look how great he looks or look how terribly it looks.
Starting point is 00:25:28 And it could be the exact same video. You see what you want to see. I want to see him look great. He looks fine to me. Like genuinely when I watch, I'm like, this is, other than the egregious drop last week, his film was good. He broke some tackles, had some explosive plays. He had a ton of great cutbacks this last week. So I think he looks great.
Starting point is 00:25:50 AFC South Houston. Chub played 11 of 14 snaps with C.J. Stroud. Now, Damien Pierce couldn't work himself in. He's still recovering from the quad injury. But Chub played 11 of 14 with the starters. It seems like if there's no mixing, Nick Chubb is like where does he belong in drafts? late you know like if you're going with a more zero RB approach he is probably someone who's just
Starting point is 00:26:15 gross that you can roll out there the first couple weeks you know he will get opportunities the Texans should be a good offense so like you have a chance of a touchdown every single week you know while he is the starter also with the Texans right now it seems very solidified that it's Nico Collins and Christian Kurt yeah and then the more interesting thing is Xavier Hutchinson's been playing
Starting point is 00:26:39 ahead of Jaden Higgins. Jaden Higgins seems like another guy. You may have to wait a little longer before you get the benefits of I don't think it'll be very long for him. Of that upside. Okay. The Colts, my one thing I wrote down, Warren is awesome. Yeah. 97%
Starting point is 00:26:55 of all snaps with starters through two preseason games. Deep downfield targets. I mean, he looks awesome. That is rookie tight-in, Tyler Warren. Yeah, and this game, Richardson was six for 11 for 73 yards
Starting point is 00:27:11 Jones was 7 for 11 for 101 neither of them really separated both both had their good moments who do you think is going to be the starter week one well I think I think that's an interesting question because I think it should be Daniel Jones if you I think he's the better player
Starting point is 00:27:26 it's really hilarious that he looks like the stabilizing player for a quarterback room because he is the least stabilizing quarterback historically but I think from a like position standpoint as a team, like what's the easier thing to do? It's easier to me to give Richardson the start. Yeah. Let him, let him, if he collapses again, you've got Daniel Jones waiting. The other, the other thing in reverse seems a lot harder because you can't go away
Starting point is 00:27:51 from Richardson if you bring him in after Jones. It's harder to pull the, you know, you just look like a circus. Emergency court. I mean, it's, it's, I mean, we know exactly what Daniel Jones is. We've, we've seen years and years of him as a starting NFL quarterback. I think he's the better quarterback, though. I think he's definitely the better quarterback. I think he is right now. But it's just your future and your ceiling. The season starts Miami at home. They're favored.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Then they're at home against Denver. That's a tough defense. Then they go on the road against Tennessee, not favored. Then they're on the road against the Rams. I don't know if that plays into your decision making. Who you think they're going to start? I think they'll start with Anthony Richardson, but TBD. They, you know, they'll
Starting point is 00:28:32 announce it next week. I, as somebody who wants to see Tyler Warren succeed early, in the year. I want it to be Daniel Jones, me personally, but I think that unless Richardson collapses in the third preseason game, I would give him the shot first if I'm the Colts, because like you said, you're looking for one last shot at, you know, the Bryce Young Redemption story, the let's give the guy a shot to be successful. If Daniel Jones is better, it's still irrelevant. Like what Daniel Jones is, is not the future of a franchise that is a successful NFL team. Probably true.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Jacksonville, Trevor Lawrence, through two games with Liam Cohen. You ready for this? 14 of 17 for 119 and a touchdown. Okay. So Trevor Lawrence, you know, the redemption story of Baker with Liam Cohen, among others. But I mean, Lawrence, 14 for 17. It's been good so far.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Pink Bigsby played every first and second down. Travis E.T.N. played on both their depth. That's a swapped weeks there. That's the most interesting thing of everything we were hearing at a camp before game started, preseason game started, was that Tank Bigsby is the primary guy. Like, he's the starter, and E.T.N has his role. Then preseason week one
Starting point is 00:29:44 happens, and that was completely upside down. And like, oh, threw everything for a loop. Now we're back to Tank on first and second down. It could parallel Tampa, where he just came from. You've got Biggsby could be the Bucky.
Starting point is 00:30:00 It could. The Rashad White could be the E.N. And then the Sean Tucker could be the Tooten. Which I I wavered in my faith after preseason week one of which guy I want not that we're not clamoring to get the Jacksonville running backs in particular
Starting point is 00:30:16 but I'm still drafting Tank Bigsby ahead of Travis ETN. Yeah, if the starters play next week that will be what to watch for. Who gets first and second down between those two guys? I think it's fun to talk about Tennessee because Cam Ward seems like he is going to be the real deal at some point now as a rookie, your production, you don't hit certain marks.
Starting point is 00:30:35 It just doesn't happen in the passing game very often. But my takeaway from this was, I mean, you saw the rookie wide receivers getting a lot of snaps. Now, Calvin Ridley, Tyler Lockett, they didn't play. But Iommanner, D.K., they played a bunch of snaps. I have a nickname for it's E.O. Manor, right? But when I type his name into anything, it auto corrects it to Epic. So he is now Epic Iommanner. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Let's hope he lives up to that. as far as I'm concerned. Take it easy. So, but he was epic in this game. He looked great. He had a big connection with Cam Ward. He was playing right next to Van Jefferson, so it's easy to look good. Yeah, D.K.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I just think you look at this team, like, Lockett stage of his career. We like, I like, I like Ridley a lot. I think Ridley is a super great steel. I just haven't said it a lot because he was a my guy last year and didn't quite end up there. But, yeah, I think he is a steel at his ADP. It will not be smooth sailing. But I think IOMANOR could easily be their wide receiver too. Easily.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I mean, you're talking about competing with Tyler Lockett, who really hasn't been a two in a couple of years. I mean, it was nice to see. So finishing up the AFC, we're in the West. Denver, you saw Sutton, Mims, and Valey all rested with the starters. Franklin and Pat Bryant both played and looked good. It almost makes it more confusing. Yeah, you can do it now.
Starting point is 00:32:02 You can do it. This is his time. I mean, look, I think Troy Franklin, here's the real truth about Denver's wide receiver room. Sutton, stable, good, drafting, playing. I think then it's just going to be a hodgepodge every single week. I mean, like, if Mims is sitting with the starters, and Vela is sitting with the starters, and then Franklin and Pat Bryant get reps, and they both look good. Like, Franklin's going to catch, what, three or four long touchdowns?
Starting point is 00:32:25 I mean, Pat Bryant could get involved, and he's the one that has the kind of like invisible upside. We don't know how good he could be. And Evan Ingram will be there to take plenty of targets as well. that's true. I had almost nothing on the Chiefs, nothing too impactful. Elijah Mitchell still seems to be the RB3. Pacheco played a couple of snaps. Hunt, but he's also banged up. Yeah, he had the quad contusion and old. And older. So look, it's Pacheco Hunt, then Elijah Mitchell. All right, help me with this one. And I'm going to give the shout out to Dwayne McFarland for breaking down the wide receiver room for the Raiders. So Jacob Myers played 100% talking about
Starting point is 00:33:03 the Las Vegas Raiders wide receivers Jacobi Myers played 100% of snaps with the starters full-time slot he played slot the entire time then you've got Deontay Thornton Jr. Okay 25% target share with the starters average depth of target
Starting point is 00:33:19 of 28.5 yards. Yeah he's a nine guy. Yes. Seems to have a firm grip on the wide receiver three roll late round deep sleeper but Trey Tucker was also on the field for 100% of all passing plays in the offense. Jack Bash did not play until he got out there with the second unit. So Myers, Thornton, Tucker?
Starting point is 00:33:38 That does seem to be the starters. It'll be, it's interesting of like, is Thornton, I mean, he's a later round pick than Jack Bass. Jack Bass was a second round pick, so it's disappointing to see him not be able to get on the field. Meanwhile, a guy drafted after him is, but does Thornton have like real upside or is he just a you know the way that they've used Trey Tucker like just a real gadgety player who is big and fast that can help you do other things on your offense but he can't really become a focal point I mean none of it's it's the time of year where you got to talk about those guys we love Jack Bash's film there's two rookies here competing so we want to know what's what it's all irrelevant the wide receiver three for this
Starting point is 00:34:26 team, and that's what this is, because even though it's the wide receiver too, Brock Bowers is there, and then it's Jacobi Myers. The leftovers split between a couple of players. I mean, if we're being realistic, these guys aren't going to be week-in, week-out fantasy starters without
Starting point is 00:34:42 an injury ahead of them. Yeah, and I would disagree if there was no Brock Bowers. I would say, hey, there's an outside role that's an opportunity on the outside, but I think you're dead on. Chargers-wise, We talked about Quentin Johnston getting hurt. The stars of this game, there were the two rookies.
Starting point is 00:34:59 So Kandre Lambert Smith, Trey Harris, both made plays. Right now it seems like it goes Mconkey, Keenan, KLS. Yeah, yeah. And obviously, Quentin Johnston up there as well. Trey Harris was with the twos. He did not do his work. But listening to Harbaugh, Harbaugh was glowing on both of those guys. Harris had a great game.
Starting point is 00:35:22 He was behind. He's behind on the depth chart right now. All right. So we'll take a break and we'll talk. I'll run through the NFC teams and we'll do some mailback. All right. Let's start in the NFC East. The Dallas takeaway,
Starting point is 00:35:41 Giovante rested with the starters. Oh, man. Miles Sanders played. Okay. So. That whole, it's going to be tough. That's why the answer is Cid Lam and N. George. Yeah, exactly, because they're not going to be able to run the ball. Honestly, Blue is
Starting point is 00:35:58 like, Jaden Blue is the only running back I would take a shot on and it would be like if he makes it to the last round in my draft. I'm not. I don't. It feels like a zero R.B situation, right? He does, except I go back to, I mean, the Broncos were a good offense last year. The Broncos had a better offensive line. How often could you have started Javante Williams last? Not very. He was a D If you guessed right, you would have been able to start him three times. He had a hundred. He started for a lot of teams. Man, 209 carries and you end up at...
Starting point is 00:36:32 If you're a running back with 70 targets for a good offense, how are you not a top 15 running back, a top 24? He was the running back 30. But if you're in a league that gives like a hundred point bonuses, if you're running back goes 14 for 40. Then Javante's your guy. Javante. Second rounder.
Starting point is 00:36:51 All right. So Javante is the best of the worst. The Giants, Russ, he can still throw the ball really, really far. I watched every Jackson dart snap twice because it was super impressive. He completed 13 straight passes in this game. It was all hurry up.
Starting point is 00:37:08 It was all short area targets, mostly. I mean, there were a couple of good plays. It's still. You want to be accurate. It's exciting. Just the Fields would love to complete 13 straight passes. Goodness, in his dreams. With the Eagles,
Starting point is 00:37:21 it's the Shipley story to me. I mean, Seiquon and Shipley, those guys rested. Shipley looks locked as the RB2. So if you're looking to ensure Saquan or take a shot late on somebody that could emerge in an injury, whatever, there's your guy, I think, right? That's certainly how I lean. And I think Shipley's a good back with that offensive line. Something happens to Sequin after the massive 417 carry workload last year, then... Yeah, still be in ship shape.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Ah, nice. Okay. Commanders, they haven't played the play tonight. So NFC North, winners of every offseason, champions of every off season. Chicago Bears. Caleb looked good. 97-yard touchdown drive 5 for 6 for 97 yards.
Starting point is 00:38:08 To Zakias, right? Yeah. Yeah, of course, right? Because you've got what? Like Colston, you've got Burden, you've got Adunzee, you've got DJ Moore. Colson had a couple catches. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah, I mean, and it was we little man. They, yeah, very nice. They, the bears are going to be tough of like, are they going to play a lot of 12 personnel, where I like Luther Burden a lot, but is this, is there a scenario where he's just not on the field because they got, they got Commet and Lovelland out there. Commet made a big play. Lovellum made a big play. They both split snaps in terms of like being on the field.
Starting point is 00:38:48 So that's the problem. come at two years ago, or a year ago, really, and he's a good player. Yeah, he is. So it's like, you know, this is a guy that's going to occasionally just steal targets from Colston Loveland, and he should. I mean, that's how it should work
Starting point is 00:39:03 for the team to do well, not for your fantasy team, but for the team. Yeah, it's wonderful for Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson to have so many legitimately good options. It should work. It should work. Especially with the offensive line improvements. It should work. Please do.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Detroit. They arrested the starters, but, Mike, if you need to go to the pants store again. No. What? No. He avoids that place now. Can you delete a location off of your Google Maps? The pants store? Oh, if he searches pants, nothing comes up. Make a choice. Mean. Do not buy stock. We're talking about Isaac Tesla. Yes. Who five targets, four catches, 41 yards, and a beast of a touchdown in their preseason game. He also looks gigantic. like he looks like I mean he is he's a very large but I mean there's plenty of wide receivers out there that are 6-2 6-3 or whatever
Starting point is 00:39:58 he's 6-4-215 yeah he looks like he's 6-8 I mean I feel like he's just maybe he's playing with more backups and they're tiny but that's where I will as excited as I am long term for Isaac Tesla he was he's not running with the starters no right now but he will be interesting to keep an eye on
Starting point is 00:40:18 waiver-wise the injuries as well they're my belief in the looking at the depth chart and the talent it's like ominara and jamo are they're locked in test law and like a month in he could be the wide receiver three well remember there were there were weeks where that over the last couple years whether it was it was it josh reynolds was having a stretch tim patrick you know that that third wide receiver has moments so if he shows enough flashes and they they paid a lot to get him they did three third rounders essentially yeah yeah because they had to trade two to use a third um that's a lot of capital to give up for someone who going into this draft season the NFL
Starting point is 00:40:59 draft i don't think enough people didn't know his name quite he was he had no production he was overdrafted from expectation yes but he has had the drum beat all off season and then preseason he looks good you got to start paying attention to tuss law they're a team that goes and gets the guy that they think is going to make the biggest impact yes they do they're very convicted about their players in the draft of late. Green Bay, mostly all the starters rested. I talked about Marshall and Lloyd getting hurt again. I mean, you have to say it, Emmanuel Wilson is right now Josh Jacobs back up.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yep. And he's always kind of made the most of his opportunities. Minnesota, everyone rested that mattered, nothing there. Falcons, same story, first and second string, rested everybody. But let's talk about Carolina. Chuba Hubbard played 67% of the snaps with the starters. He was, you know, he gave way to Rico Dowdle on third downs. So that's kind of how, I mean, Chuba Hubbard was always the catch-it-and-fall-down guy last year with the targets,
Starting point is 00:42:01 but Dowdell seems like he'll have a shot to be a third-down back every week. I think he should. We've got two years in a row of Chuba being extraordinarily inefficient in the receiving game. Great running back between the tackles, but passing to him has been like a negative play for them. Neither of you find a way to say good things about the Saints. It does seem like an actual battle for which bad quarterback is going to start. Right. It seems like Spencer Rattler is going to be the guy to me, from what I see on film.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Alave had a drop in the game. Rattler was okay, but like Spencer Rattler as your as your quarterback. Do you have a snake, man? I think he's looking for a snake. I got a snake, man. I would say, what is your thoughts on the? The one bright spot is Shaheed was moved around a little bit more in the slot. a little bit more. So that'd be good if they
Starting point is 00:42:51 involve him on some easy stuff. Because I feel like what Shaheed has always been you go deep, I'm going to throw you a bomb and you have big plays, but very low consistency. It would be nice because he's not a bad player. No, I think he's a very good player. So if he could get more involvement there, that could be good. You'll be excited about
Starting point is 00:43:11 the one-handed Emeka Egbuka grab. Oh, I was. But for Tampa, I mean, he impressed. And then McMillan... And then McMillan got hurt. And Godwin's on the pup. It's like, Ibuka could be like... The path is cleared. Like, it's like week one, you're the starter with Mike Evans?
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah, it certainly seems that way. Also, I was personally... Like, I'm a Bucky Irving fan. But I also acknowledge, like, you've got a committee situation. There were some camp highlights of Bucky making downfield catches. And it's like, okay, cool, that's camp. He did it again in this game. He caught, like, a deep...
Starting point is 00:43:49 touchdown on a wheel and made a competitive catch, if he gets involved more in the passing game, because when he's out there, it's better that the defense has that in their minds that you have a running back that's not just between the tackles guy. If they can get him involved in the passing game, it changes his ceiling. Oh, for sure. I mean, that would be what takes his current average draft cost and actually makes it payoff. Because right now it feels like he's being drafted near his ceiling because he didn't have that So I'm looking at you know
Starting point is 00:44:20 I'm in the UDK right now looking at it On Sleeper In half he is behind Jonathan Taylor now Is he fallen though He was definitely ahead of Jonathan Taylor Yeah I thought so too So Josh Jacobs is at 8
Starting point is 00:44:33 Taylor's at 9 buck he's at 10 Oh yeah Okay Okay Yeah that's fine I think when we started this process He was 7 He was running back 7
Starting point is 00:44:42 Where it was like gosh That's like When he had his breakout he was basically about running mag seven and we were wondering how high could you go. And if you don't have targets, people are hurt in the wide receiver room. It can benefit the running back room. Two teams in the NFC West pretty much rested everybody and didn't do much. Cardinals, they rested everybody. Brissette's their backup to Kyler. He looked okay. And then the Ram's same story. It was Stets and Bennett. Corum ran ahead of Hunter. That was only note I had to mention
Starting point is 00:45:12 for backups for Kyrin. We did get a photo of Matthew Stafford. No, sorry, this is the video. Matthew Stafford at practice. At least walking out there. Yep. Today? That's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:45:25 It is. Okay. All right. Stay safe. Be healthy. We need you. 49ers. Pearsall looked great.
Starting point is 00:45:33 He's going to, I mean, he was a starter. He might be one of the most undervalued players in fantasy because I think he's going like wider shooter 45 or something stupid. and no Iyuk, no Jennings. Jennings is dealing with contract and injury. I would also say, like, nobody talks about DeMarcus Robinson, but DeMarcus Robinson has been a fantasy contributor before. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And is currently, like, I know he's probably going to get a suspension. That's what we're waiting on for him. But regardless, like him being, I'm telling, the way he's playing with the starters, like, okay, if he gets a game or two. Like, is Iyuk back in a game or two? No. Yeah, I mean, like, Jennings still hurt?
Starting point is 00:46:12 like they have to run wide receivers out there so Pierceall seems like a highly undervalue player Pierceall's early camp injury was really great for the ADP because he was you know he missed camp last year with the injuries had you know the unfortunate shot and then this year he was starting to get drafted pretty high you know a lot of hype because of the depth chart and then when he missed time to start camp people just forgot about him
Starting point is 00:46:40 So I agree with you, Andy. I think his value, where he's going in drafts, is you can see his upside and you can't always see the players around him with a path to greatness. All right. And the final team, and I have a few notes on him, Seattle. First of all, the offense was humming. It looked great. Charbonnet looked awesome. He's healthy.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Right now, Ken Walker's on his quote, he's on a plan. I don't like the way you talk about the plane, Andy. I'm sorry, the plan. Have you ever had a plan? You follow it. Now the plan for the Seahawks might be Charbonnet being more involved than you think. What do you think of that plan? I didn't read that in the plan. So I don't know where you're picking that up.
Starting point is 00:47:23 He definitely could be. It could be more, more, like that's, if I had a plan for Ken Walker that involved him not practicing every once in a while, it might involve other players playing running back too. It definitely could be the plan that it's more timeshare. The way I just look at the C-Walker, Seattle situation. One, like, yeah, Charbonate, you know, last year came in on a couple games because Ken Walker missed his time.
Starting point is 00:47:48 He has to rest. Yeah. And, you know, Charbonate looked better last year. He has to rest. He did it. He burns real bright. He has to rest. I'm more excited about just the, this was the hope, the scheme, that even though
Starting point is 00:48:01 the offensive line is not talent-wise what we want. It might be better than we think. That, that Cub-B, yeah, maybe the line's better than we think. And also, the Cubiac run system is just. just such a good run system, and while Charbonnet is a good player, and maybe he gets more involved than we want, Ken Walker is, when healthy, is a much better player than Charbonneas, in my opinion, a much, much better, more explosive running. I think he's better at a lot of things, not everything, but it is possible that Sam Darno could
Starting point is 00:48:32 legit be the quarterback to the unexpectedly better offenses back-to-back seasons. I am so excited to be doubting Sam Darnold and then have him prove us all wrong. That'll be fun, but I'm going to doubt you. Kevin O'Connell and then Kubiak, those are good minds. Speaking of the wide receivers in the past catchers, Cooper Cup lined up inside of JASN on most all of their reps.
Starting point is 00:48:58 So you were talking about two guys that are slot dominant players, Cooper Cup, in the slot more. It's also worth noting that the, you know, athletically gifted, you know, they let go of Noah Fant, Elijah Arroyo right now, played as the Titan three, played into the fourth quarter. A.J. Barner seems... Hey, J. Barner,
Starting point is 00:49:21 he played... He's a veteran. I like him. Look, AJ Barner's a second-year guy. And he played eight of ten snaps of Sam Darnold. So for Seattle, that was the story, and that was week two of the preseason in terms of a quick takeaway for every team. All of the UDK rankings,
Starting point is 00:49:37 I did a huge rankings update yesterday. We'll keep tweaking them this week and get you ready for your drafts. We're going to, yeah, Brooks would like you guys to know, AJ Barner had one less touchdown than DK McHaff did in the offense last year. Okay. So, AJ Barner fan, Brooks, Carmine. All right, let's do some mailbag. Mailbag.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Why is Richard Nixon coaching these teams? I'm not a Brooke. Oh, my gosh. You guys got a lot of sleep last night? Oh, man. I didn't sleep at all. This weekend was... Oh, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Yeah. That's a good time. It's a good time. No, I had a solid eight hours of sleep. Combined. Yeah, over the last four days. So that's an old school coach. Yeah, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:32 That's the college coach that's up in the face of all the players screaming and yelling. Yeah. All right, let's start some mailback. By the way, if you have a question, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. That's where all of our rankings and resources are. You can click that submit a question button,
Starting point is 00:50:49 or you can dial the voicemail hotline to get on the show. 302464 TFFB. We'll go ahead and start with the voicemail. Hey, ballers, you're fan of the show. Quick question. Our league manager took away the IR spot and made it into a regular bed spot. Is this a good idea or is it the same
Starting point is 00:51:06 as if you were just to have, or better if you were to have an open spot? Thanks. It's certainly not the same. Yeah. Those are different things. Yeah. First of all, we don't know how many bench spots you have.
Starting point is 00:51:19 So he's wondering, is it better to replace an IR with just a full regular bench spot? I would say that if you usually have four bench spots, yeah, sure, because I think you probably don't have enough bench at another bench. The downside with adding too many bench spots is it makes the waiver wire not as fun. the fewer people out there to bid over and compete over every single week. So how many bench spots do you guys usually prefer to have? Five. Yeah, five. Yeah, that's where I land.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I think it's okay to have a deeper bench as long as you have the people in the league are for that of knowing that it's going to be a shallow league. Deeper benches are fun if you have deeper starting roster spots. If you've got a double flex, that's great. because what it does is it still makes the waiver wire interesting because you're going to be needing to play some garbage. DeMarcus Robinson is like important then. Yeah, so it does impact obviously the amount of talent
Starting point is 00:52:20 that'll be out on the waiver wire if you convert and add one more bench spot because everybody's going to, not everybody's got somebody on IR, but everybody will have a fifth bench player, a six bench player. So it'll take 12 names off the waiver wire right there. Good or bad decision? That's league specific, I think. think. I like there being an IR spot in general, though. I don't really love they're not being an IR spot. It just handcuffs teams in too big of a way, I think. If you're in a league right now
Starting point is 00:52:47 that's getting ready to go for next year and you don't have IR, you should bring that up for a vote. Having an IR spot is so good. It's more fun. It's better strategy. It feels like it really sucks when you have an injury and you don't have a guy to drop and you're forced to drop someone injured. Like, the NFL has IR, at IR to your league. All right. Kyle from Instagram writes in, are people sleeping on Bryce Young as a fantasy football flyer? They are starting the year at Jacksonville,
Starting point is 00:53:18 at Arizona, underdogs and those, then at home against Atlanta, and then on the road against New England. Mike, you've spoken very highly of Bryce Young in terms of making that offense move. I think that that, I think he's a fine. flyer you know after the by week he was on pace for 430 rushing yards so like that's the thing is Bryce has to give us at least something like that for him to make his way into the top 12 he
Starting point is 00:53:45 will be a streaming option I'm excited for the Carolina Panthers offense to see if he really takes that step moving forward so as a flyer sure but there the quarterback position has so many guys late where you're like, no, that guy's a flyer or a sleeper, so Bryce isn't super high on that list for me. He's not one of your targets, but you could certainly see how it works. Addie Tetaroa McMillan, I think Jatavian Sanders is a pretty darn good young, tight end. He's got enough weapons to throw the ball to. If he keeps running, if he's going to finish the year with 450 rushing yards,
Starting point is 00:54:21 he could very easily be a top, you know, 15 quarterback. Mikey from Instagram, how should I view CJ Stroud this year? like he was a player we talked about incessantly all last off season and almost not at all this off season you know you just you just brought up bryce young is he a potential flyer like cj stroud is a level above that but never discussed at all i don't know that he is a level above that and just in the sense that you're you're not going to be rushing the ball no um you know last year what did he have 233 rushing yards yeah so he's a pocket passer the offensive line has gotten worse the run games seems banged up an older, you got Nico, that's great, but you've got to have other players
Starting point is 00:55:06 here step up. And if you look at his consistency versus Bryce Young's, like CJ Stroud's an F in our consistency score this last year, because without running the ball, you've got to throw 4,030 touchdowns as a pocket passer. And that's, I feel like it's an uphill battle to do that with his current weapons. All right. YouTube question. What is Calvin Ridley's floor with rookie quarterback Cam Ward? Last year he was a my guy.
Starting point is 00:55:36 He was up over a thousand yards receiving in spite of what? The Will Levis Mason Rudolph Disgusto Fest. But, you know, with rookie quarterbacks, we have data over the last 14 years. Only seven receivers got up over a thousand. yards with a rookie quarterback, so 28%, only one rookie quarterback supplied 10 plus receiving touchdowns for a wide receiver. It was Jaden Daniels last year with McLaren. Before that happened, we had the data.
Starting point is 00:56:09 We brought it up on the show. It didn't happen, ever. Like, you just couldn't do it. Yeah, the thing for the situation, if you have a rookie quarterback, your target share has to be extremely high. Like, it has to be a 26, 27% type of target share. Calvin Ridley could do that. You know, the excitement is
Starting point is 00:56:29 for the rookies, and he's really the established main guy there. So if he's getting that, then you'll end up being excited. Oh. Breaking news. What you got? The Cleveland Browns have named Joe Flacco as their official
Starting point is 00:56:45 week one, starting quarterback against the Cincinnati Bengals. Oh, baby. Okay. David Nogoku Week one. Draft David Nogoku. Jerry Judy, week one. We'll see. Week one, baby.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Nijoku is the huge benefactor. We'll see on the wide receivers. Oh, Jerry Judy will be great week one. Again, this is against the Bengals. Oh, yeah. They're going to have to score a ton, and it's not a very difficult defense. So after that, trade them. Week one and trade them.
Starting point is 00:57:19 How many games does Joe Flacco start for the Browns out of 17? okay well let's run let's run through the the schedule is not good for them Cincinnati it could happen I think let's say they win that game the Cincinnati gets off to slow starts okay let's just give it to them for okay whatever just to be crazy just to be crazy at Baltimore nah green bay I'm going to give it to the Packers okay at Detroit Detroit Minnesota winnable at home Cleveland? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:57 So, the Browns, he's going to play like 12 games or more. He's going to play enough that I'm all in... I mean, who are they going to play? Yeah. Bill and Gabriel? No? I do her, no. I feel like this means... Pickett? Pickett doesn't make the roster. I mean, maybe... Like if I was
Starting point is 00:58:13 the Brown's general manager, the only right path has always been, you either name Flacko the starter or Kenny Pickett the starter, and then you keep the two rookies and you move forward. You know, maybe they keep four quarterbacks. No, no, no. I think I think that's the move is you've got to try and
Starting point is 00:58:31 trade Kenny Pickett. It's tough because pickets the best of those other guys. You'll have to get up a six. Pickett's the best of those guys by far. By far. Yeah, so Joe Flacco's the starter. It's good for fantasy and hopefully that will last a little bit, but man, they're underdogs in the first eight weeks. Oh, no, they're, sorry, let me correct that. They're favored by one and a half in week seven against Miami.
Starting point is 00:58:55 but otherwise they're under dogs seven of the first eight oh no they are dogs there never mind they're underdogs and all of them they're underdogs they're just it's not as bad it is the dog pound so they are dogs they got the dog in them
Starting point is 00:59:09 yeah um wow all right uh jason instagram question from jb who will have a better season as a rookie rj harvey or caleb johnson rj harvey you know i'm harvey i'm not going to answer this question
Starting point is 00:59:24 stupid Arthur Smith Okay Nothing I'm not going to I'm not going to lecture you on Players whose name begins with K and ends with Johnson Thank you Your rookie season thank you
Starting point is 00:59:35 All right let's grab No further questions at this time Another voicemail Hey ballers What is some input and advice That you would give to those of us That are in keeper leagues Thanks guys
Starting point is 00:59:46 So general keeper league advice One of the things people tend to do Is hyper-emphasize they're keepers and the truth is if you're in a keeper league unless it's some exhaustive huge amount which borders on dynasty
Starting point is 01:00:01 you're keeping a couple guys maybe it's one two, three players sometimes it's at a draft cost sometimes it's just a no cost at all but you see people kind of building their roster around this ideal that they're going to have
Starting point is 01:00:13 you know you get this name on your team and he's going to be your keeper for five years in a row and they're locked and loaded on your team and it's just very very rare in the lifespan of players to live under that in that world
Starting point is 01:00:26 and I see people lock themselves in they don't want to trade players because of that you're not your keepers are going to turn over all the time yeah the biggest
Starting point is 01:00:35 mistake people make in keeper leagues is over emphasizing age age matters a lot in dynasty you know if you're 26 deep and you've got that roster forever but when you've got
Starting point is 01:00:46 three guys James Connor can be a keeper no problem a great keeper no problem and he's an elder statement Like, you don't need statesmen. You don't need... His statement is old.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Statement. He makes old statements. To over-emphasize the youth. And so I would basically treat it almost exactly like a redraft. Yeah, I mean, a perfect example would be like if somebody's excited about R.J. Harvey. And they're like, man, I'm not going to trade him for sake one because... You know what I mean? In a keeper league, it's like, oh, man, he's going to be good in a few years.
Starting point is 01:01:16 It's like, go win the league. Because there other... That's the mistake the other league mates are going to make, at least some of them. And so then you have an advantage over them for sure. So we've got breakout, sleepers, values, busts episodes coming out. We've got our fantasy MVP episode, mock drafts coming out. It's a hot week. We've got the Time Machine episode in the near future.
Starting point is 01:01:34 So a lot of big-time shows and a big announcement tomorrow. So you're sleeping right now. Me and Ken Walker, we're tired. And then this is your last chance to get the UDK for life giveaway situation. So get the UDK to be in or to win the UDK for life. And our live stream begins at 6 Eastern this afternoon. Ultimate DraftKit.com for more info on that. That is it for today's show.
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