Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - ADP Risers + High Hopes, Upside QBs - Fantasy Football Podcast for 5/28

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Fantasy Football show for May 28, 2026. Which players will rise the most in fantasy football drafts? Which late round QBs have the most upside? Lots of questions answered for the 2026 fantasy football season! Plus, reactions to the Josh Jacobs arrest, and other NFL News updates. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. Get the lowest price on the 2026 UDK at UltimateDraftKit.com - Instant access to the Dynasty Pass with the UDK+ (00:00) Intro (03:05) ADP Risers (13:50) NFL News (20:05) Mailbag (20:25) Middle-round TEs (27:35) Bhayshul Tuten or Christian Watson? (30:10) Let-down players (34:20) Late round QB upside (37:40) Jalen McMillan outlook (43:00) Ladd McConkey or 1.06 rookie pick? (47:10) Devonta Smith / AJ Brown Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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some fun stuff coming this summer as well, but June 1st, the release, it'll be exciting UDK Day on Monday. Quick question of the day for the show. Comes in from Instagram. Comes from Bonnie McMurray, which is kind of perfect for my answer to the question. But who do you think will have their draft stock rise the most by Fantasy Draft Weekend? Like you're in on Bonnie? No, it's the other part.

It's the Murray part. But Kyler Murray is my answer. He is currently going in the late 13th round as the quarterback 21. You can believe whatever you want about Kyler Murray. Does he, you know, I've seen things say he lost his love of the game in Arizona, which I would do. I've lost my love of the game in Arizona. Many, many do. I mean, I understand it.

So, you know, we've had these resurgent seasons from Sam Darnel, Baker Mayfield, Gino Smith in the past. Kevin O'Connell, we like him. Look, Kyler's going to win the job. I think it's over. You want to know why? Because I watched a press conference this morning. The same question was asked to

Kyler Murray and J.J. McCarthy, and it was, you know, what's it like working with the other guy? Okay. You haven't seen this, Mike? No. Oh, it's good stuff. Kyler's like a professional. His answer was amazing.

It's, you know, it's weird. I'm a veteran, even though I'm only here. here seven years. I try to do whatever I can. He's absorbing all everything and you know, he's a great player. He's awesome. We're on the same, you know, we're competitive, but we're on the same team. We just want goals. Whoever's going to help us win. You know, we just want to win. And JJ gets up there like an incompetent, stupid child. And JJ goes, he says, yeah, it's like being in school and like, I sit on this side of the classroom and he sits on the other side. And the coaches, they're responsible for like teaching us. The coach's job.

I mean, it was so brutally. Is there anything awkward? Well, no, it's like school, you know. He sits over there. I sit over here. So like, yeah, not really. It was like, high school. I mean, it was like, I mean, you're not a French.

The leader of a multi-billion dollar franchise usually knows how to like have the politically correct answer. I agree. If you're the leader, you have to say certain things. And yet, so when Kyler's saying that. Oh, he's lying out of. That's what I have to like. Oh, right through the deep.

Like a. quarterback should like, oh, I like the, I like the theatrical. Kyler Murray team player? I'm just saying he gave the team player answer. That's what I want to hear from my quarterback. I don't want to, look, but I've watched him on the field. Be not team player. Jay J. McCarthy answered the question in the exact same spirit of the meme we got in the locker

room. He was a petulant child. Anyways, all that to say. Oh, I haven't watched. Tyler will win the job. He's on his way to winning it already. He will win the job. and he will not go as the quarterback 21.

You can believe whether he's going to, I think he'll support Justin Jefferson and Addison and the offense very well. I don't know if Kyler will be a top 10 quarterback, but the hype and excitement will grow. Yeah. And he will be a late round quarterback bet with high upside, rushing upside, and be one of the most popular, stylish picks you can make. Yeah, I mean, there's no way when drafts coming around once we know he is officially the quarterback that he's going to be the quarterback 21.

He's basically undrafted right now. Most leagues aren't taking 21 quarterbacks unless you're in a superflex. He should be drafted. I know we've had debate already about how good is he for fantasy. I think he's going to be pretty good. It's a great core of wide receivers. They even added Juan Jennings, which we don't usually talk about when we bring up Addison and Jefferson. So I think Kyler's a good, I mean, it doesn't cost you anything to take a bet on him.

So he'll come up in the rankings. The guy that I think. JJ will not, but gone. Yes. The guy that I think will ride. Just lie to me, quarterback. An average draft position by the time the draft comes around is my man, Cam Scataboo. Okay.

Scataboo, I think there's two things here, right? One is the fear of the injury. The injury is real. This was brutal. You know, sometimes there are the on-field visible injuries that stick with you. This was one of them. People saw it. People noticed it.

People wanted to look away. It was gruesome. And so I think there's a lot of fear of coming back from that kind of an injury. And the other is because it was, you know, early in the season, it was like somewhere around week 8 mid-season. It was a long time. We forget what he did. And I want to remind people what Cam Scataboo did. If you take out the injured game, which is fair, he didn't play the whole game.

You take out week one of his rookie season. He's like 10 or 12% of snaps. But it basically wasn't really involved yet. The rest of the time, he averaged 17.8 fantasy points per game and half PPR. That's an outrageous number. For context, that was more than James Cook last year. More than Derek Henry. It was just behind A-Champ.

That was a ridiculous number. And I already feel, like, this is such a great pick because I can already feel it. I feel it in my bones. Well, all of our UDK, like when we statted the guys out, and we did the research on the injury, we've got a whole injury report in the UDK. But when we started him out, this was like we were all above where he's being drafted right now. Not aggressive. We don't have him as the running max seven.

I do think he gets off. need to learn. Absolutely. There are yellow flags here. He very well could get off to a slower start. Obviously, the team won't have Malik neighbors, not that they had him last year. But, you know, we expect them to be better later in the season than early. But his timeline on his injury. Well, and the fact he feels no pain. Yeah. I mean, he is, he did try to put his foot back in. Right. If you remember that part of the injury. He's like, oh, let me just put it. Can I get some tape over here? Some people have the mental, the mental makeup to literally not feel it. Yeah. And he's, he's a, he's a doesn't feel anything. Oh, man.

All right. I'm going to call my shot here that people are going to figure something out because right now ADP doesn't make sense to me. Going with Quentin Johnston. Huge! Of the Los Angeles Chargers where Ladd-McConkey is being drafted right now in about, what, let's see the fourth round? Ladd McConkey.

who's a good player great player and Quentin Johnston meanwhile is going in right around the 10th I'm looking at Sleepers 80P last year

Ladd McConkey missed a single game and he ended up with 789 yards Quentin Johnston missed three games and ended up with 735 yards and more touchdowns than Ladd yeah

he had more production than Ladd McConkey people hate huge He is What do we got here? Kyle, we have only five wide receivers Collected eight or more receiving touchdowns in each of the last two seasons.

Jamar, Amin Ra, T. Higgins, Devante Adams, and... Huge. Huge. I get it. The rookie year was awful. It was disgusting. And we were done.

We were sticking with him, man. Because it wasn't just like, oh, he's not given us production. He's giving us drops. It was just, it was an absolute clown show. he's gotten a lot better since then. He's such a red zone weapon. And he's a red zone weapon. And because of the additions at tight end that Los Angeles has made,

they're going to be in 12 a lot. They will be in two wide receiver sets. We think, we think Ladd will be one of them. I know that Johnston will be one of them. I know he's going to be on the field. Cudes will absolutely be on the outside and all two wide receiver sets. Keenan Allen's not going to hurt. Kuge. He can hurt. He can hurt

Ladd McConkey. Well, the worst news that just came out I saw a quote. I think I saw the same one. Go on. It was talking about how there were three wide receivers who have clearly separated themselves for this team. They look amazing. They're awesome.

They are. They've stepped up and they're coming to work. They're going to be the leaders. And it was Kuge and Ladd. And it was Trey Harris. My boy, Tray Harris. Never wrong. Just early. and the thing is about that is I mean that's great news

I think those three will be the three and three wide receiver sets but if you just look at going to two wide receiver sets where you don't have someone in the slot you want the two wide receiver set to be you know you you want lad to be on the field but he doesn't project the same way that like a Trey Harris archetype does so if it ends up being

Trey Harrison Quge that's going to hurt Lad Q's so I don't I disenfest agree with you, Mike, I do not think he rises in ADP. Now, I think he should. I think he's a phenomenal late round pick. Oh, no, that's an interesting point. People hate him. Yeah, I don't

know what he would have to do in the preseason to garner excitement that moves him in ADP. Yeah. I think here, I mean, maybe it'll be us. I think when you make him on my guy. I will not do that.

I will stand, I will stand up for Quinn Johnson. I will not do. That's fine. You could call me yellow. I don't care. These colors run, brother. We run away from Quinn Johnston. So minimum 14 games played. Quinn Johnston points per game. He's right here at wide receiver 19 tied with Tederoa and McMillan. Like he, who's offense would you want more? Right. The Chargers. You want Herbert and his upside or do you want Bryce Young? I'm not saying I'm drafting Q's over Tedaroa McMillan, but I'm saying... Yeah, where are you taking? You're my guy.

Maybe round eight. But it's just... Where I think it changes is over the off season, more and more stuff will start coming out of just about the way the offense is working of their like, hey, there's a surprising amount of tight ends on the field. And you know who's always out there is Quinn Johnston? And the wide receiver too is...

Sometimes it's lad, sometimes it's Tray Harris. and I'm glad you're bringing this up. The one constant is the guy that no one wants to draft. I'm glad you're bringing this up now. Because if you, if we had the same diatribe in August, I think we move his ADP. Right now, the Sharps and the Foot Clan, they're listening, they're going to do the right thing.

Just keep getting your values. Yes, exactly. Keep them low. Where he's going right now is a ridiculous spot around names that are, I mean, it's far more unlikely to be on the field. and far more unlikely to produce. It's wild. Yeah, it's very interesting.

All right, let's jump into some news. News and notes from around the league. Well, we haven't had the privilege and honor and amazing ability to talk about what we love talking about, which is legal issues with players, not, you know, football. All right, first comments. Josh Jacobs arrested on domestic abuse charges in Wisconsin. we are you know these are always really really difficult to talk about on the show because there is a true like human reaction to the incident of what occurred and our timelines get flooded with fantasy football implications for news that we don't know the outcome of you know i think right now we love leaning on and i'll give i'll give a shout out to him drew draught drew davenport f on twitter uh gives the best overviews of these legal situations with his legal background. We have had news break here and there. Some quotes that I want to share

from Drew. He said, despite the seriousness of the allegations, I'm not automatically assuming the exempt list will be used for Jacobs or that he'll be suspended this year. He also said, however, the possibility of the exempt list is at least in his estimation 20 to 30 percent higher with this type of charge than it was for Rashi's right. Rashi Rice's civil allegations of abuse. I will add, yesterday Jacobs was released from jail and no charges have formally been filed yet. He also said, quote, I have seen cases like this end up in felony convictions or complete dismissals. The entire spectrum is still in play. More evidence needs to come to mind. My advice on Twitter, other than hashtag too soon for a lot of it, is literally that. It's just

wait a second. You know, there's not really a lot to be gained by firing off a random guess in either direction here in my opinion. Now, you can do what you want to do. You want to go pick up Marshawn Lloyd because he's going to be the number one guy. Shoot your shot. Everyone knows what's going on with Jacobs. If you want to take a trade offer for Jacobs because you think he's not going to be suspended, go ahead. But he could be. So I don't know if you guys want to add anything to it, but that's the situation going on right now. I think you laid it out pretty well. The range of outcomes is certainly a suspension this year to absolutely nothing. He could be cut as well.

He has no more guaranteed money. The current, well, the thing is, this is a Super Bowl contending team that does not have a depth chart behind. Obviously, he could be cut financially should things really come out that it was very bad. But as of this moment, the fact that quote unquote new evidence has been shared that's yet to come out, but it was shared from Josh Jacobs's side, and then he was released. And then Jacobs attorneys released a statement on his release saying that they are very happy, that this decision was made based on the new evidence, and they look forward to...

The decision of currently no charges. Correct. And so that's not to guarantee he doesn't have charges brought, but it does to me lean me currently. If we have to pick a side, which I think the best advice is just too early, don't make any decisions. but if I have to currently lean aside, I don't think he misses any games this year. I'm not willing to say anything in that regard yet. Yeah, I have no idea the allegations.

When they first came out are bad. I mean, it was two felonies, four misdemeanor type of situation. These are very, very serious allegations. So if something was done, there'll be big trouble. But, dude, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know. We're not privy to that evidence or not even close to it. So free agent running backs that are out there, Mixin, Naji Harris, Austin Eckler, Antonio Gibson, Nick Chubb.

No, it's two of one. It's all the Arizona Cardinals. Trey Benson, James Connor. Yeah. Tyler Algier could be traded. Come get one. I mean, they will need to reinforce that room. Marshaun Lloyd has never been able to stay on the field. They lost Emmanuel Wilson, which, look, if Jacobs ends up in this situation where he's off this team, that will be one of their greatest regrets.

Yes. Yeah, if you're in a Dynasty League, you know, Chris Brooks might be sitting out there. And he could very well be the actual starter over Marshawn Lloyd if he's healthy. And then when Marshaun Lloyd breaks, he will be the starter. That's the only, like, fantasy advice I think that is actionable right now is if you're in Dynasty and someone rage dropped Lloyd or Brooks happens to be out there, those are the speculation ads. wide receiver Nico Collins agreed to terms on an adjusted contract that guarantees his salary in 2026 and 2020. There's money, Nico.

This is a much better news. Yeah. I like this news. More money for Nico? Just, yeah, positive. Players getting money, doing good things. All right. How about this one?

Buccaneers head coach Todd Bulls said running back. Bucky Irving is, quote, coming along fine and is, quote, expected back sometime in summer or fall? Now, to be fair, you added the inflection of, have you not seen that quote yet? I saw everything but the or fall part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what they do in fall? That's the big part. You know what they do in fall guys?

They play the football. Oh, man. Or spring. Good luck. Good luck making your decision on Bucky. Well, he was just discussed on the Tuesday Wild Card episode if you want to go back and listen to that discussion. I'm not sure it's going to give you conviction one way or another, but the truth is there the range of outcomes on Bucky is high high risk, high reward. award. I mean, that is kind of what makes up

fantasy. So if you have stability elsewhere and you want to take a shot on a guy that's being drafted as an RB2, that could be an RB1, whatever the case may be, there's upside. So, um, I don't think we have any other news to talk about before we get into the mailbag unless you guys have anything you want to add.

No, I'm good. All right. We'll take a break and jump into some questions. See if we can help you out. All right, without further ado, it's time to jump into the mailbag. Mailbag. All right, if you have a question for the show, we're here to help. Go to the website, the Fantasy Footballers.com.

Click the submit a question button. Or you can dial our voicemail hotline, 302-464. TFFB. We're going to start off with a voicemail question. Hey, ballers. In 10 things to remember, you said, don't trap middle-round tight-end. Does that apply to Colston Loveland and Tyler Warren this season? Yes or no.

Thanks. Have a good one. I'll take this one, guys. So the question, do you avoid middle round tight ends? Because historically, as soon as the elite guys are gone, and players are drafted, I want a player who I can just put into the tight end position, he's just going to start for me. And it doesn't work.

Yeah, I mean, looking at last year, even if you were to have drafted who finished as the tight end two, which sounds, oh, great, versus the titan 12, which sounds bad, It was meaningless nonsense. It had no, it was like a couple points per game. Except for the playoff run of cow pitch. Well, sure. I mean, on a per game, like individual pick your games out basis, that's just streaming the position. So my tip on my things to remember was after basically McBride and Bowers, I'm punting to the end.

I'm not taking a shot away. It's not because I don't like the tight ends that are there, but to take a shot away from a sixth round, a fifth round, a fifth round, a seventh round. an eighth round wide receiver or running back. I listed off all the guys we missed out on in those rounds last year, taking these other tight ends. It's not worth it. It's not good strategy. And then something happened.

Michael Pittman went away. DJ Moore went away. And all of a sudden, it looked like those two guys, Colson Loveland and Tyler Warren, have the true chance to go into. Sure. That's fine.

I mean, you guys saw the future. You saw that those players. would be removed. I didn't need them to be removed. No, go on. I mean, with Pittman there. That was the persuading factor for you. For Tyler Warren, yes. A little bit more target clarity. For Tyler Warren, yes. I mean, DJ Moore had 85 targets, 50 receptions. That wasn't a huge clog. Michael Pittman was, you know, the leader in target. So Tyler Warren to me,

with that move. I cannot hear you repeat stats and numbers without hearing 55 burgers. Every single time you do it. Oh, man. Okay. Well, congrats, man. I'm doing something. I'm doing something. So I absolutely include Loveland and Warren in the elite tier. I'm not drafting. Yeah, you got to go. So that's the question, right? How far do you go, buddy?

No, no, no. I am a huge believer in Harold Fanon Jr. I think his talent is awesome. I tried to trade for him in dynasty leagues. I absolutely, 100% will not be drafting Fanon this year. Oh. He is not in that tier. He doesn't have the quarterback play.

He doesn't have the offense around him to really, truly be elite. He has the talent. I think if he were to swap with Tyler Warren, I would be saying the same thing about Tyler Warren. Tucker Kraft. Panon, Kraft to me as well. So those four names are the line. So to me, it's the four. This is just my personal strategy, and everyone's going to be different.

But I am Bowers McBride, Warren, and Mr. Love Land. and then I'm drafting my tight end in the last. Whoever is left over when everyone else has their tight ends, I'll find someone. The most recent news is Matt Lefleur saying Tucker Kraft could be ready by training camp. So if the ACL truly looks 100% fine, like if he's there, full participant beginning of training camp, which timeline says, shouldn't be. If he is, and he really beats that, then I might move him into it. but he would be the only one that I would be willing to draft.

Of the five. Like Sam Laporta, great tight-in. Dalton Kincaid has big games. There's Kyle Pitts, the tight-in too. I'm not wasting my time with any of them. They don't make a difference versus one another. You have to be truly elite at that position to matter. Otherwise, take more shots at the running backs and wide receivers.

Do you think it was worth drafting Tyler Warren last year? Yeah. It was very unfortunate the injury. He was basically in that elite tier. He was almost 11 fantasy points a game, which is, I mean, tied in two last year was like nine. But until the injury and then he kind of went away. Philip Rivers couldn't get it done.

In our mock draft that we did here a couple weeks ago, McBride and Bowers went early third. Loveland went fourth. Fanon and Warren went in the fifth. It slipped a couple rounds, Kraft in the seventh. And then it was like Leporto. and pits and those were areas where like for instance

Tucker Craft went after Ramandre, Manungai, before Dowdell and Dobbins it looks like a running back run in that round but yeah that's a that'll be an interesting one I mean I think that it's always tantalizing if you have young talent late in the draft that has upside I haven't seen you know stowers and Sadiq excitement the way we would have had Loveland and Warren

which is... And Sadiq just had surgery. I guess that should have been in the news. Hernia surgery. Yeah. He should be fine for the start of the season, but that's not great for getting, you know, off to a hot start. All right.

Yeah, last year Warren's ADP was the eighth round as the tight-in nine. I think part of the avoid tight-ins in the middle rounds is if you already know who they are, you already know who they are as a fantasy player, where it's like Loveland and Warren, we don't completely know. They seem like they're on the path to be, to being top tier potential elite tight ends for fantasy.

The other, it's like, it's like Pitts, you know, and I mean, I'm interested in LaPorta, but at the same time, I know the strategy of, it's like Pitts, LaPora, and Kincaid are just, you know who they are. They'll give you a couple spike weeks, but they're going to give you plenty of weeks of three to four points. I think one of the difficulties of drafts,

those guys in the middle rounds is it's not just the trade with the other positions because those guys, I mean, in those rounds, those guys can flop too. It is making sort of a commitment in your draft to a tight-in that might not be a good weekly starter. But when you draft them there, that's your tight-in. And you really feel locked in on that for a while. You know, tight-ins are going to have fluctuating weeks. You're going to be, oh, you had a bad week one. Oh, I'm going to play them week two. Oh, well, it's kind of a slow start. I know what I saw. in him. It's going to come along. You don't stream the position. You don't make a change. When you grab Hunter Henry at the very last pick of your draft, and it doesn't really make that

big a difference versus him and Leporta on a per game basis, and then week one, Stowers is crazy involved. Or Chigua has 10 targets. You're fine, just going on the waiver wire and moving on. But when you do draft Leporta in the whatever round, you're like, I don't really need to drop it here. I've got my guy. Instagram question coming in from FML. Bayshall Tutin or Christian Watson in a half-p-R league. Currently very similar in ADP, fifth and sixth round picks. We did talk about Bayshall Toon in our wildcard episode as well.

But Christian Watson, you know, one of the more exciting. I love both these guys. Upside cases. Yeah, you do. Let's hear your answer because you heard it. Yeah, I feel like I'd go Watson because I'm higher on Watson than I am, too. I am higher positionally on Christian Watson and the Bayshall Tootin. It's just the, I mean, look, they are, they're both wildcards of, of, you can't be certain that they're going to hit.

It's projecting. But if Tootin hits, he's so much more valuable. I guess, you know, for you guys, your con, because I'll throw to you, Jay. I don't know if you're as in on Watson as I am, but it's like Tootin and Watson, who's, you know, who's, you know, Who do you think has the, who do you think hits is more likely to hit? The more likely to hit is Christian Watson. I think, I think Christian Watson is likely to hit. But I agree with you.

If these guys both do what the hopes are, the value, it's way more valuable to have Tudin. If Tudin hits, he's going to make a bigger difference in fantasy than Christian Watson. Christian Watson isn't going to be someone where he's getting 100 receptions. Like that's just not his game. He's going to be downfield. He's going to have, you know, a lot of touchdowns and be way better than where he's going right now in a draft, but he's not going to be just an every week dominator. Whereas on the Jags offense, if he takes over this Travis H. Chan Jr.

role and gets the pass catching, which he did in college, even though he didn't last year, then yeah, I think Tutin has a higher ceiling, less likely to get there than Watson is to get to his ceiling, which is lower. Last year, Christian Watson, in his 10 games played, would have projected to 60 catches for 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns. I mean, if you want to extrapolate the loss of Josh Jacobs outward. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know how many times we've said the identity of this team is Josh Jacobs. If they have to throw the football, which I think they're willing to do if that's the, like they've done it before. I mean, Jordan Love was the top five quarterback, right? I mean, wasn't he five? He, Jordan Love did it. He gave us one great season. And even though Jordan Love is not giving us tremendous fantasy success over the last

couple years. Him as a player, like his advanced metrics say, if they throw more, Jordan Love will be great for fantasy and so will his weapons. Yeah, that's something else to watch out for. Another voicemail question. Dave Ars is Matt from L.A. and since we're deep into the off season, I wanted to ask for each of you guys, when was one player that you had high hopes for, but they just kind of fell through the next season? It goes far back to when the pod starts. of the show. Who is a player who we had a high hopes for that let us down? I mean,

Carry on Johnson. I mean, that's like my. So, so, so many. That's my cross to bear. Believe it or not.

Because I did it two years in a row. When you double down and you lose, you lose more. Yeah, when you said, never wrong just early, that game came to mind. Man,

that was never wrong, just injury. Uh-huh. I believe that to my court. I am on Jason's side. I think Carion Johnson would have been great, but his body broke down. I mean, we've got, I mean, QEG was a name on my list.

I mean, Q's a my guy for me one year, believe it or not. I do not. What? Yep, Quentin Johnson was a my guy. Oh, no, that was Mike Williams. Yeah, okay. Same arc type. Same team.

I picture them the exact same. I mean, it makes sense. Mike Williams is one. Outside Mike Williams. We've been doing this a long time. The players just morph into the next one at the same size. But no, Mike Williams was one that I had as a my guy. We've had several of my guys over the year that were actually the year before.

I had Cooper Cup the year before he was the number one overall wide receiver in the entire league. We've done it several times. We talked about this on the footcast yesterday. We have a weird track record of being one year early on our my guys. For several days. A lot of them. A lot of them. Oh, gosh.

I've got the whole Kyle in under 60 seconds grabbed the entire. my guy's archive of all time. But who do you think, to answer the question, who do you, is there a player that stands out? That really believed in that let you, like you just, you were wrong. Oh, dude, Royce Freeman. Royce Freeman drafted by the Denver Broncos.

He had the tier, right? In the giant. Huh? Was he the one with the giant? No, no, that's no. No, Sean Moraine. We're getting all the names mixed up. No, Royce Freeman.

The giant tier was a third round pick to the Denver Broncos who had a completely open depth chart at the running back position. Royce's production profile was redonculus. Everything totally made sense. The only thing I didn't see coming was an undrafted free agent, Philip Lindsay beating him out for the job. I had Jehan Dodson after the rookie season. That was a huge letdown. I thought what I saw in film was great. I think that was a big letdown for everybody. Yeah. That one, that one Do you guys have any other names that come to mind? Trey Lance, Mike?

Yeah. Well, Trey Boo Boo. Blake Jarwin. Blake Jarwin to injury. Trey Lance is that. Who was the? That's all on. There was a charger.

I think this was San Diego Chargers running back who we love. Ryan Matthews. Ryan Matthews was. He was going to be so good. Ryan Matthews is just the what could have been. Every year was what could have been with Ryan Matthews. That dude was electric and his body was made of paper machine. You had one year, Mike, where you had Ryan Matthews.

At that time, he was an eagle. And you had Dante Moncrief slapping the base for Indianapolis. I feel like Moncrief led us down too. Jason, I got one more name for you. I got one more. Let me have it just punch me right. Kobe Fleener. Oh, dude, you tell him me this.

Of course Kobe Fleener. Peyton Manning's tight end. No, no. No, that was. when he went to the Saints. Yeah, you really, you projected him forward. Drew Brees is tight in. There you go.

Yes, he was the post-Jimmy Graham. Yeah. Yeah, there have been some names over the years for sure. Fun stuff. All right. YouTube question from AZ. After QB8, who has the most upside? Is it matchup dependent?

So looking at the later quarterbacks, you know, Trevor Lawrence is at 10. For me, that's the name. He was almost the name to bring up on who's going to be drafted higher than where they're currently going. He was so good last year. The second half of last year, he was just dominant for fantasy. I think that's a great name to bring up. Yeah, we have also in the UDK, one of the things that's a feature.

We have a risk rating, but we also have an upside meter for players that we see. You know, if you're differentiating because you want to add somebody with more fluctuation on your team with more upside, we do throw that in there as well. Obviously, Mahalms is going to be that name because Mahomes always has upside. He does. The name to me is Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams has every opportunity to, I mean, he runs the ball. He has a great offense. We love, you know, we're debating all these different offensive pieces and they all go to Caleb Williams. I think we, we as a, we as an entity like the whole universe does not. We as a universe. Let me speak on behalf of the universe. do not really believe Caleb Williams is going to be you know ever develop into like one of the the best of the you're going to be talking about Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes and

Caleb Williams because his accuracy his consistency has just never been there he has to Josh Allen right exactly he's got it he's got to turn over a new page where it's like I am now an every play consistent machine but should he do that everything is set up for him he'd be he has done the skill set. He's got the body size. He's got the weapons. He's got the offensive line. I mean, he's worth down conversions. Should he take that step? I mean, you're talking about a guy that next year we could be, you know, who has the option to be, you know, a top three quarterback next year? He should. If last year, which was his sophomore season, right? If that had been his rookie year,

can you comprehend what we'd be anticipating for this season? Because that, those numbers, the big plays, the playoff run. If you said any of that stuff as a, you know, you didn't have the burnout of the first year, I think he'd be one of the biggest name. It would go Josh Allen Lamar and then Caleb would be the third quarterback being drafted off the board. People just excited to, I think you're right. To have the future number one. Yeah, he made Mahomes like plays frequently last year. It just was intermixed with, what are you doing? So, yeah, and we love Loveland. We love Burden. I think we like Adunze. I think we like Ben Johnson. We like Swift.

I mean, there's so much opportunity. Completely agree. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll jump in to some more questions. All righty, Kyle Hamlin, writing in. Isn't that a race car driver? Kyle Hamlin, I think so. I don't do the race car driver thing. NASCAR maybe or something. I'm looking for some help over here.

Is it Hamilton? No, it is. Denny Hamlin. I see a Kyle Hamlin on IMD. IMDB known for a house of dynamite. Oh, that's probably what you were thinking. Perfect first date.

Well, here's what might throw Dyera from Detroit. Here's throw some doubt. His handle is at Thundering Tird. So it's probably not any of those guys. It's the thundering turd version of that name. Why is everyone forgetting about Janley McMillan? I can see him as the two in this offense.

He will get opportunity as the two in this offense 100%, Kyle Hamlin. It's already been, they've already talked about this like Ted Hurst. He is a big bodied wide receiver. Jason loves him, rookie coming in, but it will be Jeline McGillen getting opportunity on the outside alongside Ted Hurst as well. Yeah, for sure.

I think it's a good name to bring up. You forget the end of his rookie season. He was the guy that caught fire. He was the reason to be maybe scared off of a Mecca Ibuka coming in as a rookie because you're like, if that Was this an Ammon Ross St. Brown situation? You know, the end of McMillan's rookie season, he had two touchdowns, one touchdown,

one touchdowns, one touchdowns, one touchdown in his final five games. It was like, you couldn't keep him out of the end zone. And so you were wondering if he was a future star, absolutely a worthy, I mean, if you're going real, real deep, you know, if you're in a best ball league where you're going 20 rounds, take some shots on McMillan. I don't have a problem with that. I do personally like Ted Hurst enough to say, I think he's better than McMillan.

They spent good draft capital on him. So those two guys will compete. He had a serious injury that kept him off the field until week 15 last year, but he did have a top 10 wide receiver finish. In the midst of us waiting for Abuka to do something, he went 7 for 114. He caught 80% of his passes in the four games he played, whereas Abuka was under 50%.

It's a good name to flag. I think the question mark is just, Is he kind of a bit player? Yeah. You know? I don't. I really have very little interest. The outside's going to be a mix of McMillan Hearst and maybe even Tess getting some work out there.

It's, Abuka is secure in his spot on the field. Chris Godwin is very secure in his spot on the field. So the, maybe McMillan ends up winning that outside job. But he, I mean, he has to fight off other players where, and then, and then, and then, he has to fight off Abuk and Chris Gobin for targets. Which that's what I was going to say. Somebody other than those two guys with Kate Otten in the mix, too, it's hard to imagine him supporting a third to fourth option consistently,

no matter who it is, even if you gave Hearst every snap. He's should the other players miss time, yeah, then he'll be interesting. And the league, you know, Kenny Gainwell with his team leading receiving numbers. It's always good to take stock and have a, you know, kind of a, mental checklist of players that if a role appears can succeed because not everyone can. Like we'll have injuries throughout the season

and we'll be like, yeah, this wide receiver three is now in a new role. He's probably the top pickup of the week. It's like, we know that Jalen McMillan McMillan should that show up. He can show up. So I would agree with that that he's a talented player, but he has, he has to overcome

so much to be any sort of relevance. If week one, he plays basically 100% of the outside snaps. Would you, I mean, and maybe he doesn't do electric things with them. Are you then picking him up off the waiver wire? Maybe. I'm very distracted as a quote from Bears coach Ben Johnson just came in. Oh, let's have it.

Quote, I'm buying Luther Burton stock right now. How's that feel? Feels fine. I would hope he does. I hope he buys stock in all of his guys. He also just said, I'm shorting Roma Dune. Oh, well, then that would change things. Yeah, he didn't say that.

Don't believe you. Mike had a lot of- The burn part is true. There was a lot of vitriol in Mike's. How does that feel? Yeah. The head coach just liking one of his players he drafted. I love this thing.

Yeah, he didn't draft room. I love this thing that has come up so naturally between Mike and I. They're just so different. Where I know, one's really good. Where I am all in on. Rome. He is all in on Luther Burden. And we're just going to, through the season, Oh, it's going to be great. Just going to be

great. Every time either one does something good, it's just going to be death stare. You see that? Does that mean I get Loveland if we want to complete it? Can I have Lovell? I know, we're all. I mean, you can say that, but he's on my dynasty team, so. Alex writes in this question.

The only one that can't have Loveland, and this is important is Kyle. Kyle. Oh, he, oh, man. He's still talking about. Kyle never breaks in. He won't stand for that. Oh, man. What are your top five reasons for hating him?

Yeah, you've got the mic. I have him in Dynasty, and I love Tyler Warren. Hey, that is why I'm- Stop clock, right? Autopic? Yeah, yeah. My eight-hour timer ran out. I ended up with Loveland.

I hated it. Try to shop him. Kyle has never broken into this show. Never. Unannounced without permission, and he immediately was on the mic. He's not going to stand for that. He's in another state. Oh, man. And he failed.

Yeah, he won't stand for that. All right, this is sort of a follow-up to an earlier discussion. Alex writes in dynasty trade question. Ladd-McConkie or the 2026, sixth pick in the rookie draft. 106. Oh, Ladd-Maconkey, easy for me. I mean, you do. I mean, 106 is either going to be Mackay Lemon, Judarian Price, KC Concepcion.

I don't think Lemon would get. there. But I mean, he absolutely could get there. He could. I bet he's, you're saying because he's four? Yeah. I bet he's top five at least now. Yeah. At the sixth pick, I don't think. Yeah, you're probably looking at your pricing construction or you're like, you love Mendoza or Stowers or Stoub or. Yeah, that's who you're, that's who you're taking. I know, I know without like, for a fact that Ladd McConkey is a great wide receiver that can get it done in the NFL. I think I'd stick with lad. The heart part is going to be, do you see, like just where does the team go for an identity over the next five years?

Because do you think that, you know, this becomes a lad takeover situation? I think that's the bet that some people would want to make about some of the other receivers with opportunity. Yeah, I think that the identity of the team will truly be Herbert. I, you know, I think this is going to be a team that over the next couple years will be a Super Bowl contender. and like all Super Bowl contenders, it's, it's Lamar's team. It's not Derek Henry's team, even though Derek Henry is, you know, the, the muscle that's making them move right now. I feel like saying that, though, is it's the, it's the Thorke, uh, Star Lord meme. Yeah, you're the guy.

Where Star Lord is Lamar and Thor is Derek Henry's like, yeah, we, yes, no, no, no, certainly you are in charge. Better example, better example, the Bengals. Whose team is that? Okay, yeah. Because obviously, Jamar Chase is. maybe the best wide receiver in football, but you don't. No, that's Burroughs team. That's Burroughs team.

I don't even know what that stuff means. Well, you asked, you asked, wait, no, but I just mean like, I was answering your question. But the question, but the answer wasn't what I wanted. Okay. The answer was whether or not you look at this. I wanted a yes or no, no, no. It's fine. It's fine.

I just, it didn't answer it for me internally of like, my question was whether you could start to identify McConkey as a chase or a neighbors or, you know, in that category of dominance where some people might take a shot on somebody else. Like, McCocky's going into year three. He had a bad sophomore season. I mean, you have to reverse it, right? You have to take over. The issue with that is it's like, is Casey Concepcion going to take over whatever

the Browns are? Is Omar Cooper going to take over for the jets? In this specific draft, you're probably on the McConkey side. I'm not disagreeing with that. I just, but if it was lemon like if you changed this pick yeah that's a good question so 104 I don't know what I do because I really do like I really do like lemon why didn't he have a neck in that picture I don't know what you're talking about you have I love the question mcalfa let's my guy you love the question someone give me this picture yeah he took he took

he took his like you had my interest he took a promo picture yeah it's with and this dude this dude's just funny to begin He is a unique cat. Someone find that picture. The answer to your question is, do snakes have necks? Okay? Because... Do snakes have necks or do they have bodies?

Right. I wouldn't say a snake has a neck. Or are they all neck? Yeah, I don't know. That's a question. Are snakes all neck? Mackay Lemon, there is no doubt he is a snake. Yes.

This dude... He has serpentia qualities. Yes. You can't talk to him without him. him snake in his head. Oh, I see the picture now. I don't think that was, that might not have been the exact picture, but it looks like he had one of them neck removals.

Because we're going to go back to Tim Robinson on every 15 seconds. Well, let's, let's end it here with a lineup question in the same vein, same team. Do you believe Devante Smith can operate as a wide receiver one? I say yes. Yes. Or will Lemon's presence eat away at his potential given the AJ Brady? This person said, given the AJ Brown trade. next week, which, by the way,

because that should have been in the news. I mean, oh, man. The public, I just don't want to talk about it anymore. The public stuff on AJ Brown is it's like, okay, the Patriots are not going to give up a one, and the Eagles are not going to settle for less than a one. And this is a,

right now there's a large gap, and that could change in five seconds. But on Tuesday, I brought it up. Like, my percentage was not as high. Stay strong, Patriots. Because I just think sometimes stuff like this is, sometimes it's real,

and sometimes it's posturing for some change of like, like the NICO contract, right? where he got the two years of extra guaranteed money, I would not be shocked if tomorrow you find out A.J. Brown gets money moved into the guarantee pile and you don't hear about it. Now, he is also a guy that really, really wants the ball on every play. Yeah, he wants stats. But right now, it does not seem imminent, right? It's May 28th.

Let me tell you this. We recorded 100 player profile videos. Devante Smith and AJ Browns are sitting there in a coming soon, let the dust settle status. Because they're going to completely change. What happens with AJ Brown changes everything for all eagles, for AJ Brown himself, for other quarterbacks. But DeVosy Smith can 100% be a 1. 100%. He is a great NFL wide receiver.

He'll take over. And we have enough evidence of this. When AJ Brown or Dallas Goddard have missed time. Yeah. The fantasy success, you have, I mean, Devante Smith has literally already been a top 10 fantasy wide receiver. So we know he can. And the question specifically of Mackay Lemon, who I just said I love, will he eat in? Will he eat in enough?

I don't think that rookie McKaylemon eats in enough. You've got. Snakes eat things whole. Yeah, they do. That's true. They do eat things whole. But I think he's a baby snake right now. I can't.

I, guys, we have. We have a snake, man. We have a, I mean, we've got old drop. We got to update the graphics. I got a snake, man. Oh, Spencer Rattler, see you later. Oh, yeah. That was the last time we'll see Rattler.

Let's get this. This will be the third person to take over this drop. Blake Mortals, Spencer Rattler. Welcome to the party, Mackay Lemon. This is a Hall of Fame drop now. I got a snake, man. Also, who amongst us doesn't want to find out if Romeo Dobbs can be a one? I mean, come on.

Come on. What, you don't want to find out? I don't. Oh, well. What a great way to end the show. on the crickets. We have a Explain Yourself episode

defending our individual rankings coming up next Tuesday, another mock draft coming up on the horizon. Mike, you're going to love who I'm splaining. Okay. Is it a burden?

No. The UDK. It's the better one. Oh. The UDK comes out on June 1st, which is Monday. So make sure you head over to Ultimate draftgit.com

to check that out. Man, something was popping into my head. Oh. Have you seen this? I've noticed. If we do mock drafts, right? Sometimes they're like 10 teams, sometimes they're 12 teams.

There has been a very direct association between the amount of teams, including a mock draft, and how manly you are. If you go to Twitter, they say man up and do a 14 team. Be a man, do a 16 team mock draft. 18, 20. No.

More manly, more teams. That's all I'm saying. I was unaware. I didn't know that was... I am low T, so this makes sense. Give me a 10-teamer. I was going to say, you go to the doctor and they're like, I just looked at your blood work. You're in a 14 league, aren't you?

You're 14-man. Yeah, you keep this up. It's 16-mocks from here on out. Yeah. Question my testosterone. Maybe they're corollary. Maybe if we do a 14-team mock, all of our testosterone would rise. That's how we become men?

I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to say goodbye. I'm going to hit this button. Thank you for joining us. The Fantasy Footballers. Check us out on X at the FF Ballers. We'll be back.

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