Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - AFC North Breakdown + Don’t Be Surprised! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/7

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

Fantasy Football show for July 7, 2026. Divisional previews have begun! AFC North preview on today’s podcast! Will Lamar Jackson bounce back? Will Harold Fannin Jr. have a full season breakout? Get a full breakdown for the Steelers, Ravens, Bengals, and Browns for 2026 fantasy football drafts. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. 2026 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT is available now at UltimateDraftKit.com Get MEGALASHOW tickets at BallersLive.com (00:00) Intro (04:50) NFL News (14:40) AFC North Divisional Breakdown (17:22) Pittsburgh Steelers (26:25) Baltimore Ravens (38:05) Cincinnati Bengals (47:25) Cleveland Browns Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Tuesday, July 7th, the fantasy footballers podcast. That's F-O-O-T. Footballers, not to be confused with. No, not be a football? No football.

Bro, we're done. We're done with that. Tap it out for four years? come back later. On to the real football. That's pretty embarrassing, though. I don't even know what you're talking about, so. That was pretty embarrassing.

Well, what you missed, Mike, is I played goalie for the United States last night. And this was my first time playing soccer or football. So my bad, my bad America. Yeah. And our country says goodbye to soccer for another four years. But that is not what this show is about. Happy to be back with you. It is a Tuesday episode.

We begin our divisional breakdown episodes. It's go time, baby. Yeah, I, something happens over the summer when you hit a certain point and then the highlights that you're watching of players start to get you tingly. Like you're just ready for the season to begin and for things to actually matter.

And for, you know, to draft Jamir Gibbs at number, one in our league of record. Any of those things that'll be fun for you on the way. But today we're talking to AFC North. Divisional Breakdown shows begin, as do three shows a week. We are

into that time of the year. Five shows a week starting in August. We've got our big live event at the end of August. We've got the kickoff to the season shortly after that. The draft kit is flowing. The updates are going.

Nice. Nice. Yeah, I got you back. Driving bars. That was the first thing that, yeah, that was great. You guys are rhyming. Oh, we're back. We're so back. We didn't get to say it because, like, we pre-recorded last week's shows. We were all on separate family trips getting some vacation time in before the season begins.

Ironically, Jason was in, he was on a cruise. We went to the Caribbean. Yes, I went to the heat. Mike and I were both in Alaska, not together. Correct. You were in Anchorage. Were you there the whole time? Did you guys run into each other?

No. No, I didn't go to Anchorage. Pretty big place. I was in Anchorage for most of the time, but then I was in Gerdwood for a few days. That sounds made up. Gerdwood? Yeah. Yeah, shout out to the 20 people that live.

Dude, they were having like this huge event, and it was like, what people live in Gerdwood? Oh, the Gurdwood Fest? Oh, man. Yeah. You didn't even know. I thought about going. But no, we cruise to Alaska. I had never been on a cruise before.

That was fun. and it was much colder than wherever you were, Jay. Yeah. You were sweating? Yes. But we're excited to be back. We didn't get a chance to talk about July 1st is when the draft analyzer release. So the UDK in its full form, I guess, is available now.

So you can basically, you know, sync with your league, analyze your draft, see a breakdown of basically your strengths and weaknesses, how you align with each of us, different, tips and tricks based on your roster. It's a great tool you'll be using a lot over the next couple of months into your regular drafts. We also have a big, big upgrade coming to the UDK very, very soon. It's very exciting. It's going to work

with the draft analyzer very well to help you guys prepare for drafts. It's probably the biggest feature being added since we've ever launched the UDK. And it's not at an extra cost or anything. You just get a huge upgrade to the UDK. It should be, I mean, I think

next week or two. Whoa. You might see it up here. Just log in, you know, go to my UDK.com and look from time to time to time. Download the app. Where would someone purchase? The app will be the place where that finds its way first. Ultimate AdraftKit.com.

Yeah, yeah. But lots to talk about there. We've got news to catch you up on. Let's get into it right now. News and notes from around the league. If possible, Brandon Ayuk has become crazier since we left. Oh, yeah, it's possible. It is possible because he's proven it.

Every video he posts gets crazier and crazier. And I remember the Antonio Brown hit that changed him. I don't remember the Brandon Ayuk one. I thought he was not playing football while he went crazy. But something happened. if you are unaware he just is basically posting videos of himself on the

redge just going crazy just talking nonsense he has been very vocal that he would like to be released by the 49ers and then go sign with the Washington commanders to play with Jane Daniels his best friend

who now he is in a fight with online in social media and then some people are saying it's fake Listen. Here's exactly how the NFL works. It works this way for psychiatric problems. It works this way for legal problems. If you can still run 22 miles an hour on the field,

he will find a way to play football. A team will endure anything. And if you listen to George Kittl talk about Brandon Ayuk, despite saying, hey, if you want him, you get a deal with all of that, he still said, I mean, he's running, faster than he ever ran before the injury. I think he will find his way into a football fee.

The thing is he's on a football team, and that's his problem. If he was released, if he was a free agent, he would absolutely find a buyer. But the San Francisco 49ers have the option to just say he was put on to what the left. I've never heard of that before. The left team list. If, I'm not, look, if he wasn't good at football, we would never talk about him again. That's all I'm saying. And I think we'll talk about him again.

I don't know if it'll be this year. I don't know. I don't know when it'll be. I don't know. But if you can run 22 miles an hour and play wide receiver and get that contract and you're still got it, then you'll find a team. The problem is the 40, all the power is with the 49ers. Oh, I get it.

And with this new list, give them a smack. Well, I'm saying with the list, which we are just hearing about this left team list. Yeah. That seems like you're just like, see you later until Brandon and Iuk wants to actually talk to us and play ball. Yeah. This is from a couple hours ago, Brandon Ayuk says he won't be filing for reinstatement because he doesn't want to do business with the team. Under this scenario, the 49ers can leave him on the left squad list.

He would remain on the team but not count against the roster or receive pay. He's received a lot of pay already. Well, yes, in the past. Patrick Mahomes, reported by Albert Breer that he's training towards being cleared for 11-on-11 work at the start of training camp. We'll take it. Kirk Cousins took all the first team reps in the off-season practices. Yep. that makes sense well that you know it's because Mendoza was

oh yeah he was cruising with you how do you know he was on a cruise Andy tell us because my son took a picture with him that was a random thing to find on an Alaskan cruise yeah this is that's where we got all the information that cousins is taking all the first team reps here's what happened I was on we were on the cruise and as one does you get text from your kids

rather than seeing them so I was getting a text from my son on the Cruz that said, Fernando Mendoza is on board. And I said, no, he's not. He's at OTA. He's getting reps with the team. That doesn't make any sense. And then I got a picture.

Yeah. And indeed he was. But yeah, I think, you know, the process here for the Raiders is pretty simple. You're going to let Kurt Cousins play some games. You're going to probably lose them. Eventually, the ground swell will be strong enough to get your rookie in there. And, you know, it's not like there's a lot. laundry list of wide receivers that were like, oh boy, we really need one of these quarterbacks

to give us value. Are they the weirdest team? The Raiders? When it comes to a wide receiver depth chart you've ever seen? Yeah. I mean, they're up there with, you know, the dolphins and some other teams where it's like, I don't know. But the truth is they have two stars. Yes. And it's just a weird combination where it's your, I guess it's like the Cardinals, right? You've got a superstar tight end and running back. And that's where you expect most of the work to go. I mean, Jaylen Naylor definitely picked the right team to sign with to look real nice. Chris Rodriguez, there was a report from the athletics saying don't be surprised if he carves out an important role. There was also a report.

The quotes, don't be surprised if he could do something. We got to do more of those. Oh, I know. We have full authority to do those kind of posts. Listen, don't be surprised if, insert name here plays football for them. I said with all due respect. It didn't happen. Oh, I said don't be surprised.

I didn't say it was going to happen. Were you surprised when it didn't happen? Listen, LeQuint Allen was making headlines last week as well. I told this to Jason yesterday, not to buy into hype train too much because we've got it from all three now. LeQuint Allen should be third down back for Jacksonville. They like him. They want to use him there. Chris Rodriguez is a thumper.

He was the, you know, he was at Kentucky with Liam Cohen and he, 1200 yards. And, you know, maybe he's the goal line back. and then Bayshall Tutin, the younger, you know, player with more upside. There's a chance Jacksonville is a really great offense with two frustrating situations at wide receiver and in the backfield. Could be. Because, you know, on one hand, baseball. I won't be surprised. Yeah.

Don't be surprised. I won't be surprised. No. Whatever you say, I won't be surprised. You will not be surprised. Both Liam Cohen has shown a willingness to spread the ball around. So there's one player that benefits. from success on offense no matter what

happens in the backfield or in the wide receiver room and that's Trevor Lawrence. But Britain Strange just got a contract. Parker Washington, have you seen the numbers for slot wide receivers with Liam Cohen in his career? They're pretty good. They're unbelievable. Everybody he's ever had. And that's Parker Washington. And then all the office used to high, Brian Thomas

Jr., the chemistry is really there this year. Oh, yeah, you got Travis Hunter still. Oh, you got Jacoby Myers. I mean, that's a lot of mouths to feed. And then, oh, we're going to pass to some of the these running backs. And then LeQuint Allen's going to catch the ball. Like, Bejall Tootin can catch it. Yes, he can. Um, so I, I don't know. I feel like it is a little bit messy.

Yeah, I mean, it's a reason to go in on horseboy. Uh, if you want, uh, man, I forgot about that. Yeah, we forgot about. Oh, there is. Horse boy. There is. There is. Trevor Lawrence, a young stallion, um, will, uh, he'll, he'll be valuable for fantasy. I don't, I don't think there's a world where he gets as much rushing touchdowns as he had last year, so the passing numbers will have to come up. But it could happen. I mean, losing Travis A. Chan Jr., being in a second

year in the system, I think it... I like Trevor Warren. What is our rule here? What are we doing with the A. Chan thing? You just know. The first announcer says ETN, we're good, right? It isn't, wait, that's why we say Travis A. A. Chon Jr. Exactly. You have to say the whole thing. Travis.

No, don't do this. Hey, you said it. I made a mistake. Don't be surprised if I I say Travis now. Having said all that, I am still very, very, you know, on Tudin for the time being. Don't be surprised. Don't be surprised if I changed my opinion. Are you, I mean, is he in my guy category? We're pretty close, man.

I am very excited about the player, the opportunity, and the offense. It all makes sense. I don't know, man. Another report comes out. Don't be surprised of Chris Rodriguez cars out an important role, but he's not even playing football right now. They expect him to be full goal for training camp. That's the last report.

But no, he's not playing football. I mean, clearly not a lot of people are playing football. They're taking cruises right now. Up till this point, nothing super matters because the training camp can change everything. Bayshall tuned for me is the running back 27 in my UDK rankings. I don't know where he is for you guys. Let me find him real quick. I'm not a subscriber.

So I wouldn't know. I am at 24 currently. Okay. 24 as well. I have C-Rod, Crod, as we call them. Crod. We have 47. 49, so we're similar.

Okay. Al said, Brandon and I, he needs to take a cruise and not buy the Wi-Fi package. You are not wrong. The gap between being crazy and letting people know you're crazy. Yeah, it's an important one. You need a bigger gap than that. And you know what is usually the protective layer? the agent who he fired.

Hey, you're right. Get an agent and they will be like, I am my own PR. Give me your phone right now. Our guy needs some friends. He needs to be grounded. He needs, he needs some friends right now. He filmed himself in a closet, taking 50s out of a backpack and throwing them on the ground. He filmed himself just getting closer and closer to the camera. Just, just circle him back and then be like, look, I'm closer. Look, I'm closer. Look, I'm closer. You guys. seen that one? Yeah. Yeah, I saw it. It's a great screenshot for for different reactions. Yeah, don't buy the wife. He was so

good. Somebody go one here. Somebody go disconnect his router and he'll never know. He'll just be talking into his phone and no one will see it. Yook. Someone help him please. Yuck. Okay. We'll take a quick break because I want to jump into the AFC North Divisional Breakdown. Let's get Divisional. All right. It is is that time of year. This does feel like the series of shows

where we turn the corner on the season getting ready to start in training camp. Was that a new graphic? Up there? No, sir. Okay. It was new last year. Well, I just watched it for the first time. It's pretty nice. I like it. All right. A reminder

of what these shows are all about. We're starting with the AFC North. They are a general overview of the offseason changes. It might be about, you know, different players that were added, subtracted, rookies. head coaching changes, yep. How the offense might function this year our takes on win totals

who could win the division. We looked back at the stats and it was pretty close last year I think in terms of getting I might have won by one pick or something like that, but we were all pretty close on getting some of the teams, I think it was 1099 on getting teams right

in terms of the division picks. Here we are. The AFC North if you remember this one just like everyone expected it was decided in week 18 if you remember Pittsburgh last second touchdown Calvin Austin yes the Steelers won the division 10 and 7 and you know what just saying it like that I'm going to get so much hate but let's be honest like what what was that team like they won seven in their one score games they went seven

and three and we've seen this so many time after time after time when When the ball bounces your way in all the close scoring games, it's not sticky. Well, I mean, it might be for them because they just never seem to lose. But they're huge change, you know, the Mike Tomlin era is over. During 19 seasons as a head coach, Mike Tomlin, never finished with a losing record. Sounds like someone who just lost his job. No, he walked away. He walked away, Mike.

Yeah. Their win total last year was 8.5. Vegas is preseason win total. They were 7 and 3 and 1 score games. This year, their preseason win total, 8 and a half. And Warren Sharp has their strength of schedule at 18. But a first place schedule means they'll be playing in New England, in Pittsburgh, or sorry, in Philly.

Also they'll play in Pittsburgh. Denver, they'll play this year. They were not. The reason that we say that, and it's not. Look, on one hand, incredible job by Mike Tomlin and this team. They always find a way to be resilient to win close games. I would not just attribute that to luck. I would attribute it to veteran quarterback mixed with good coaching.

But this was the 26th ranked offense in yards per game. So it wasn't an offense in fantasy that we enjoyed. I mean, when Kenny Gainwell leads the way for your team in terms of receiving, after you pay D.K. Metcalfe, you know, none of the hyper-eastern, excitement around the tight ends paid off. I was looking at, they have the most vacated targets in the NFL. Yes. Yes. And I was like, how?

They didn't lose anyone. They lost like Calvin Austin and John Hussmith. Oh, Kenny Gainwell. When that is... By the way, those were probably... I mean, D.K. Mekoff was bad. Yeah. So those were your targets. Johnny Smith was a big target. Well, they've... This is going to be a crazy change

because you have both. You have a big change in the players. And, and And at the same time, a big change in the philosophy of the team. Like, Tomlin was a known commodity. And while obviously you've got Mike McCarthy, who we've got plenty of years with him, this is a new experience, new team, new players, whereas Mike Tomlin, I just felt like you kind of knew exactly what you were going to get.

Hopefully you have much more passing this year. I think we've seen that from Mike McCarthy. The fact that they went out and got Michael Pittman, you know, traded for him. paid him. They drafted Jeremy Bernard with one of their high draft capital picks. Yeah, the second round pick. I mean, this looks like a team that wants to pass the ball more than what Mike Tomlin did. Well, I mean, even if they don't, the fact you have the most vacated targets, Johnny Smith, Kenny Gamowell, Calvin Austin leaving Pittman should get a ton of targets. They brought in Rico Dowdle. Jeremy Bernard will have an opportunity to crack into the rotation.

But I also think he's competing with Roman Wilson right now for. Okay, so he'll win that. He probably should, yes. I will say this, like, with the vacated targets... I won't be surprised. You won't be... Thank you, Mike. You are really going in on that line.

I think Pat Friar Meuth is the biggest sleeper on the team. Really? In terms of... I think he's the biggest sleeper on the team. It's been so twight. He's got to get Luth again. You're saying because of the Kenny Gainwell type of targets that are fake news? And Johnny Smith being gone.

I mean, both of those situations... Michael Pittman will get his. I just think if you wanted to tell me, like, pick a tight-in that just out of nowhere has 10 touchdowns this year. I think Pat Frymuth is my answer to that question. It doesn't mean that... If Arthur were there, I think I would agree. Yeah, I mean, that's another big change. Brian Angelico is taking over. Arthur Smith has gone. Last year, they were tied for the lowest percentage of targets to the wide receiver position, at 45%, which is... Yeah, but what percentage of your own targets of your quarterback would you throw to D.K. Meckham? me yeah you personally like you're dropping back to pass me i don't even like it but i still would hyper

target him yeah he's gigantic it would have been like 30% last year um so look the the offense is going to be something we're paying close attention to in terms of what does erin rogers have left can you know it's one thing to say they want to pass it more it's another thing to say like the the depth of target yeah the you know it fits pitman it fits friarmute it fits backfield targets for for jalen warren it doesn't fit hiding right yeah go sure seventh round pick seventh round

yeah hopefully miss arming night let me just no no no no no no no no no no no you don't get to talk about I know any Pittsburgh depth at running back for one year I agree you get one year I'll take my you get one year off

I agree he's also going to be on the practice squad so enjoy that maybe so let's talk fantasy though let's talk how we're actually viewing I think the big names Metcalf Pittman Jalen Warren and maybe the Rico Douddle, what that looks like in the equation. Yeah, for me, when I went back and I watched the tape of Aaron Rogers,

he looked like he had to check everything down. When I watched his clean pocket 20 plus air yard throws, it was really bad. I mean, I don't know that he really has that in his arsenal anymore. And I don't think it was a weapon problem. I mean, Calvin Austin can get open deep. D.K. Metcalf is, you know, good enough to receive those targets. They were very bad. This is why personally I have Michael Pittman leading in targets, because I think they might not be as valuable as deep down the field,

but I think the possession type of receiver is something they really, really need. So for fantasy purposes, I don't think there's going to be a lot to love here, but I do have personally Pittman in the lead at target. Mike, if you look at your rankings, do you have Pittman or DK Metcalf leading in fantasy points in like a half point? I have Metcalf higher with

just some more touchdown opportunity, but neither of them are ranked out of control. They don't look like primary targets, I will say, for in the drive. I have Metcalf ahead of Pittman in fantasy points total. Targets were more ahead in Pittman and both outside the top

30. The number one Pittsburgh player off the board in fantasy right now. Do you want to guess the round? Eight. I mean, yeah. I feel like it's no. No. Does Matt Kaff drop into the eight? I'll go seven. The first Pittsburgh player off the board and fantasy right now is Jalen Warren in the six room. Okay. Jalen Warren, uh, one thing to pay attention to there, like the workload has increased year over year, uh, average 16 opportunities a game last year. But if you look at his five zone carries, the opportunities he had to get into the end zone. He converted four of 14. So 29 percent. Whereas you look at Rico Dowdell, he converted six of his eight opportunities last year in Carolina. Yeah, I'm, the backfield I do think is, is interesting.

Not sure which of them is going to end up being the leader, but just a reminder, RICO Dowdell played with Mike McCarthy when when Rico had his breakout year in Dallas. What's that? I said he really wanted to play for Mike McCarthy. Well, he did. When he broke out and had a thousand rushing yards when he had to take the job away from Ezekiel Elliott and Rico's like Rico's not a nothing in the passing game. You don't think of him that way, but he's actually solid.

Like he, his hands are fine and you can get it going. I'm not saying he's better than Jalen Warren, but I'm saying in terms of, him just being on the field. Like he can operate in in that part of the offense as well. So I lean you lean on the RICO side? Based off of ADP and everything, I lean on the RICO

side. Yeah, it's it's an argument to be made that you get the discount to take the second guy going later. I assume he's at least a round later but sometimes in Mox I've seen him go like back to back. No, he's a round and a half later. I would take the

bet on Jalen Warren simply because, Aaron Rogers, Mike McCarthy, they've played together before, and Roger's going to check the ball down. But Aaron Rogers wants, like, he's got the quick step drop where he is timing and rhythm, and he wants this guy in the exact right spot. I think Dowdell is a better athlete, more explosive. But Warren, the way that Rogers talked about him last year, I know he got injured and then Kenny Gamewell kind of stepped in, but the way he talked about Warren was like that veteran who he can rely on.

And so I do think that's who Rogers is going to want on the field. That's a huge part of it that we don't know. Yeah. But just like Rico, you know, and his two years, we'll go the past three years. He was, his catch rate is great. It's 77% or higher. You know, yards per catch, eight and a half, down to 6.4. And then 7.6 this past year with Carolina.

They're just, he, he has it is what I'm saying. So if I'm making the bet in the draft, the more, while Warren probably profiles as the past catcher, there's a chance that Rico's the first and second down guy, which he'll still get plenty of targets playing for Rogers, if that's his role, plus goal line. That has me lead, lean doubtle in the draft. By the way, the last three teams and seasons that Rogers has played, 14 fantasy points, 15 fantasy points, 14 fantasy points per game. we are many years removed from. Yeah. Now split that up amongst all the targets. Yeah, that is a huge problem.

I will say only 54 targets for Frymeath last year in this offense. He's had seasons of 98 and 70s multiple times. Just keep it in the very deep recesses of your mind and probably don't worry about it too much. All right, Baltimore. The Baltimore Ravens. I mean, what a, the AFC North is full of, a lot of transition from, you know, long 10 years of the head coaching position. Last year, the projected win total, 10 and a half, they were 2 and 5 and 1 score games.

So you talk about the inverse of what the, you know, the Steelers did. That's something that you could see, especially with Lamar Jackson being healthy. Two and five is pretty extreme. They went 8 and 9. Their win total this year is up to 11.5. I think there's a lot of excitement about Baltimore. They were 10th and points per game last year on the offensive side, 15. and yards per game, but a brand new head coach, Jesse Minter, Declan Doyle, year one,

offensive coordinator. So before we get into the names and the players, just your reaction to the change, Harbaugh and Tomlin had been the rivalry for years and years and years. Now you've got a young defensive-minded head coach and Jesse Minter. How do you feel about the transition? For the transition, I'm fine. You know, I mean, overall, we are, we side on. you'd rather have your offensive mastermind being your head coach because you Declan Doyle's coming in he's the

he is a protege of the Ben Johnson system which that's super exciting you know like we had the McVeigh guys leave out and scatter amongst the NFL and really those are the teams that we go after for fantasy football Ben Johnson I think is going to have the same type of tree like he's his offense he's just

Ben Johnson's smarter than you are like That's just how I feel about him. So Declan Doyle coming down is exciting for this year. I just, you would be, or if I'm Baltimore, I'd be concerned that if you're good, you're going to lose Declan Doyle. But that's longer term. Yes, that's the zoomed out long-term version. But for this year, I think it's a lot of excitement for him.

Yeah, and I think that the win total says a lot about what's expected. Jason, do you have thoughts on that transition? Yeah, I mean, I don't see it as an up arrow because Todd Monkin was someone we love. It's not like you're going from a bad offensive mind. You know, Todd Monkin in year two, two years ago with Lamar was unbelievable. You know, Lamar put up, you know, fantasy breaking stats again. And so I do like Declan Doyle. I think he might be good, but good to me is sideways.

The win percentage, I think, is fantastic. The fact that they're projected for 11 and a half with the sixth easiest schedule coming up, That gives me excitement more for really Derek Henry, the running game. I think that obviously at some point, the immortal one will have to shed his, you know, his Yeti fur, but until it happens, I'm going to assume that, you know, I'm going to take the ageism. Out of the equation. Yeah, and I'll be drafting Derek Henry. You just want that guy that's built

Same size as like a Jalen Brunson He's got the pounds on it But the same height, yes That's such a funny We were just laughing at like Whenever you compare NBA players height To the biggest guys in the NFL How comical it is

But like Jalen Brunson's the same height is If Derek Henry were on an NBA court You'd be like who's that little guy Yeah it's crazy Crazy The King Yeti Eight straight season of double-digit rushing touchdowns for Derek Henry 27 carries inside the five

So he is an outlier I'm with you I would buy into another year of Derek Henry I mean what are your options if you're Baltimore Yeah I mean Behind Derek Henry it's Justice Hill Rashina Ali

Boy Justice Hill's always around Yes he is They drafted a guy that we liked In the draft process And Adam Randall because he's a converted wide receiver To running back and also when they say they drafted The owner Drafted and handpicked him

He still hasn't had a key to the building in five years, but he just waits for somebody and open the front door and he slips in. And yet he remains the insurance back. He is. And, you know, we've had a lot of conversations, I think, about the wide receiver position and what to expect. Eklund Oil, like you said, there's excitement. The schedule, it's good. Zay Flowers has been their dude in the wide receiver room. It's been an offense where we've seen it filter through the tight-in position.

We've had Mark Andrews have elite years. We've had Isaiah likely involved in the offense. Zay Flowers is their guy. His target share has gone up each of the three seasons. I am more, I think I'm softening a negative stance on flowers for a couple of reasons. I don't think that, you know, I'm not going to look at like acquisitions of Jacoby Lane, Elijah Surrott as, you know, target challenges to Zayflowers. And also, it's the draft cost.

I mean, if I can get Zay Flowers in the fifth round. Hey, welcome aboard. That's, that's just too good of an opportunity. It's just too good. I mean, Lamar Jackson had 9% of his attempts as in-zone attempts. So it's the highest rate in the entire NFL. He likes Zay Flowers. And I don't think that we should, if you told me he's getting drafted at where he finished last year, I'm out.

Yeah, he was, you know, the worst wide receiver seven of all time. But he was still the wide receiver seven. But you're not drafting him like that. You're drafting him as a, you know, mid-wide receiver two. Absolutely. In the fifth round, that's, that's. Fine. And I'm fine drafting a guy there that you know is going to be the leader. You know Zay Flowers is the leader of a good offense. That's all, you know. Now, I also feel like we can reliably say we know he's not getting double digit touchdowns. I don't think that's, I don't think at the end of his career, you're going to be like, oh, that was his outlier with 10 touchdowns. I think it'll be like, oh, he had six as his career. No, I mean, he's been five, four, five. You're not going to get that. Those end zone targets that you're talking about. Those go to Manrews. Yeah, those don't go to. There's not a lot of those going to Zay Flowers,

but it is, let me see how many targets he had inside the red zone. He had 11 total targets in the red zone. One five zone target, five 10 zone targets, had one touchdown in the red zone last year. But what I like about Zay is the talent of the player. I think Zayflowers is a top tier wide receiver. He was not the archetype of, you know, the big number one guys out there. No, he's 5-9-180. But he, but how

shifty he is and his ability to get open are what's exciting about Zayflowers. He, the proof is already there. Target share going up three straight years at 28% target share last year. That's a, that's an elite target share. And the, I think that I view the change of offense here as a positive. A lot of the times you're like, oh, I would like things to stay the same, but the fact that it's changing and Zay Flowers will clearly be the number one option in the passing game, like it could get better. And like you said, are you trying to project like a Amun Rha St. Brown situation for him with the tree, the Ben Johnson tree? I mean, it's, it's the, that's the easy logical comparison, you know, of saying a smaller guy, which

Amon Rah is smaller, but Zay Flowers is smaller than Amman Raw. So it's not a, one to one. It makes sense for that type of a thing to happen where it's like right now the wide receiver two on the Baltimore Ravens is, is and remains, Rashad Bateman. For the next four years he's under contract. Who just keeps getting contract extensions with the Baltimore Ravens despite never coming through with anything.

And then with Lane and Surat being drafted this year, they're fighting to overtake Bateman. They aren't fighting to take over for Zay Flowers. So by the way, Bateman threw his nine healthy games last year on pace for 60 targets and 30 catches. So a player... Four more years. A player going where Zay Flowers is going, knowing I'm getting 25% at least of the targets. He's really interesting.

Are either of you taking a shot on one of the rookies? No. Not in redraft. Yeah. I'm probably just going to... The fact that you had to put it that way is part of the problem. The fact that it reminds me of when we had a half. handful of Green Bay Packers rookies that you could have taken a shot on years ago, and it was like...

Was Jacoby in the third round? Jacoby Lane was drafted ahead of Elijah. I don't remember the... But not by a lot. I mean, it was like third and fourth round. And here's my problem with it, is I feel like you have to win... You got to win the lottery twice. You've got to have the rookie have the first year impact in the third or fourth round of the draft on a team that hasn't had anybody outside of flowers making the impact. Then you've got to get the right one. Yeah. So that is something, look, if you watch training camp and... You're right. And one emerges. And one is like, oh my gosh, this guy's amazing.

Then maybe there's room. But... I'm rooting for you, Elijah. I really like... Yeah, you do like Sorat a lot. I would say there's two more major conversations on this team. One is Lamar Jackson. Just like, do you get the bounce back fantasy season from Lamar?

I am fully in on Lamar. Last year... I feel the same way. I just, I'm deleting it. He was injured four different, you know, missed games. It was tough after week nine. And he's Lamar. They're 11 and a half win total.

I'm totally fine drafting Lamar. Just for context, he was the number one quarterback in 2024 with 25 points a game. You dropped to 16 a game last year. That's his lowest since his rookie year. He had 349 rushing yards last year, and I know he was hurt, but that is. Yeah, I want J.M. His yards per attempt were eight down. way down and you might get a value on him. And then the last one is just the conversation around

Mark Andrews. The statistical output for Andrews has declined year over year. Not the same player, certainly a red zone threat at all times, but 11 fantasy points per game to nine to six, only 70 targets the last two years. He's a touchdown machine. He could easily have, easily have 10 touchdowns this year and you'll be fine for where you draft him in fantasy. If he doesn't get a touchdown in the game, he's no longer the possession guy. He's not going to be up there at a thousand yards. Last year, without, in games where he didn't have a receiving touchdown, averaged four point two fantasy points per game. However, he's free. I don't even know if he's drafted in every league. He's also free of Isaiah

likely. And so, yeah, Isaiah likely being gone. They brought in Smyth, so don't worry about it. And they paid Andrews. So he's still going to be very involved on a good team. I'm fine. Like, you know my strategy. I want one of those top tier. tight ends and if not I will grab whoever is leftover. Your strategy is Loporta at all costs based on our last drafts. I mean if he falls to a price sure but I am fine with

scrap leftovers when there's guys like Mark Andrews who could go out be undrafted and score 10 touches. Your mock draft ended up so good for you. I like it. We're getting Josh Allen in the fifth round and then getting Leporta as late as you did. It's like the ninth. Your onesies were the biggest discounted players. It was great. We'll take a break. We'll talk Bengals.

All right, two teams we've talked about, two more to go. The 6 and 11 Cincinnati Bengals. Oh, man. They had an eight and a half win total last year going into the season. They had a tough schedule. Ten of their games were against teams with a winning record, which was the most in the NFL. And a lot of those came down to the wire,

and they didn't win a lot of those ones that came down to the wire. There were three and five and one scored games. We know Burrow. The story with Burrow is when he plays football and has a healthy Jason Higgins. It's pretty magma. And we also got to enjoy

one of the worst defenses ever for Cincinnati. Very enjoyable. We'll talk about that momentarily, but, you know, they lost back to that games last year where they scored 37 plus points in both of them.

They lost to the Jets, 39, 38. They lost to the Bears 47-42. They gave up 39 points to the Jets? I do not. Remember this. Man, that defense's probably because you were too busy watching the fantasy points pile up on the offensive side. But the projected win total just jumped one game to nine and a half. They have the third easiest rank to schedule, at least right now that looks pretty good. Favored in 15 of 17 games. And they have a wild amount of games with huge, like, huge lines, like, you know, 50.4 as the total for a Dallas. games. So crazy. But let's talk about the big picture here for the fantasy production of this

team. Let's start with that defense that was so atrocious that meant he had to score a ton of points. They did spend a lot of time this offseason. They made the huge trade for Dexter Lawrence. Jonathan Allen is there. That's huge. I mean, they brought in a safety. They brought in a defensive end. Their draft was focused there, rightly so. I think it will be an improved defense, but normally you see those transitions take a couple years to get to the point where, you know, I think Dallas will be better than they were last year.

I think Cincinnati would be better than they were last year. But when you're 31st, you got a long way to go. Oh, yeah. Get a little better. But just, you know, stay bottom. Just stay bottom third. You know, they coming off of last year where they could not rely on a defense.

I think that even if the defense is improved, this is going to be an offense with the pedal to the floor to avoid their defense giving up late. You know, I don't think this is going to be a team that's trying to, you know, halfway through the third quarter, run the ball out, slow it down. This is Joe Burroughs team. Yeah, well, that's, I mean, but even if they've got a lead and they think that they could do that, I think they're going to keep putting the ball in Burroughs hands, throw it a lot, score a ton of points. This is an offense that I think everyone wants. And while you're not going to get a discount on Chase, Burrow right now, you know, isn't being overdrafted. Are you both Lamar over Burrow in your rankings,

or do you have Burrow higher? I think that's an interesting one for people because, like, Lamar right now, ADP-wise, is the cheapest he's been over the last five years in the fourth round. I'm guessing Burroughs in a lot of leagues going ahead of him. Yeah, right now I've got Lamar in both 6 point and 4 point ahead of. borough. Burroughs ahead for me in six point.

Here's what I think is... The format matters for these ones. I don't feel like Cincinnati is a difficult projection of a team. What's wild is like Zach Taylor is going into his eighth year. Every other head coach in this entire division is the first year head coach. He's like the longest tenured guy by a long stretch and we just know what to expect. We know that he's not going to do anything to like slow burrow down or stop Burrow from throwing

the ball as many times as he did last year. His final six weeks of the year, he was on a 17-game pace. Burrow was of 4,500 passing yards and 43 passing touchdowns. Now, there was a desperation to that team trying to find a way to, you know, get close enough to where they could get help to get into the playoffs and all of that. You know, Burrow is always going to be a little bit of an injury risk, I think. I think we'd all. Yeah, he will be.

Even when you drop back, like take the injury history aside, when you drop back and throw the ball that many times, it's a risk. Well, you have, well, we have. six years of Joe Burrow and three of them he's had catastrophic injury. But the three where he's playing the full season,

he's throwing for over 4,500 yards and 30 plus touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, for fantasy this is really easy. All four guys are good. Burrow, Chase Brown, T. Higgins, to Chase Brown. Yep, those four where they're going in drafts. I am thrilled to have them on

my team. I think they can be actual difference makers. I want pieces of this team and the best part of getting pieces of this team is it's consolidated. No one else is really going to take away from those four players. So I think they are a tight end to give you. You know what I mean? This is going to be

you do if D. Higgins miss his time. Mike Gassicki. Yeah. Sticky Gassickey. I don't like that nickname. But it rhymes. It's been a while since we've brought it up and I now am like the Bengals are scared of it. They're just great. They're just so fantastic for fantasy. They're very similar to Dallas, legitimately. They're very similar situations.

They really are, because if George or CD misses time, I'm very interested in Jake Ferguson at that point. Otherwise, I'm not. No, and you love pickings. You love C. Yeah. You love Dack. No, and Chase Brown, to me, yet again, is one of, I think, the best picks at ADP. One thing I didn't mention that I think, at least for these last two teams, is worth mentioning is the start you're going to get in fantasy from these players. The first six matchups for Baltimore, they're favored by three and a half, seven and a half, two and a half, eight and a half, four and a half, six and a half. They're playing now four road games, but they're favored in all of them. And for Cincinnati, they're favored in five, but they have an early buy in week six. So, I mean, that's just worth noting.

They're favored in four of the five. Sorry, four of the five. Yep. Houston, they are not in week two. Which we could use a stronger start from. Yes, we really good. It seems impossible for them to start. Week 1, Burrow is always bad.

They're at home against Tampa. He should be good, but it's always scary. Come on, you could do it this year, Burrow. We didn't talk about him extensively, but Chase Brown, how safe do you view him as a fantasy ping today? Incredibly. Super duper safe. He got up.

He's like so perfect because he's not a thumper. So like you said, when they're not going to have these big leads where they give the ball to a Derek Henry that wears the game out. But he's always going to be out there on the field. He can catch the football. He was the fifth most receptions at the running back position. Yeah, when they throw it to you and they give you touch on opportunities and you're on a great offense, that's all I need.

Who is the rumored free agent for Cincinnati? There was somebody that they were talking about could go there at running back. I know it'll never happen because Chase Brown's... Like new ones? Yeah. Oh, Camara? There was a passing Alvin Camara, which is like when you located the source of it, It's absolute nothingness.

Also, he could go there and I wouldn't care. By the way, the funny thing, speaking of the Camara news, I saw somebody break down the metrics between Travis H.N. Jr. last year and Camara's numbers in terms of, like, all the efficiency metrics, and they were the same. Really? Yeah, they were just the same. But talking about running the football. Yeah, they were not...

That seems impossible. Yeah, it was an NFL rumors thing about the Bengals being linked to Alvin Kamara. I'm not worried about it. That's the last thing I want to do. if I'm Alvin Camara is leave for your final year of just like just be a legend in that city. He feels like fits

in Arizona. He wasn't going to go. If anything or if nothing changes for Chase Brown, his competition will be soon to be 31 year old Samajai P. Ryan and Taj Brooks a sixth round pick, which Chase Brown was a later pick

as well. And Taj Brooks has his supporters, but Brooks could not get on. Like my dynasty. team. Your dynasty? You have Todd Brooks? I don't know if I do anymore. Probably. I honestly don't. My dynasty team's nickname now is Michael, is Matthew Golden and the scraps. My team is so bad. So it's just called the scraps? It's just called the scrap. The rebuilding process in dynasty

just to give you the play-by-play. I haven't got to reflect on that yet because I've never done it. How's it going? It's miserable. It's necessary misery. Yeah. And it's multiple years if just, you know you have to do it. It's like construction, man. While it's going on, you hate everything. I want those lanes open. Yeah, you're like, those guys making a living. Don't compare it to construction in your situation, because my rebuild's going to be five years.

Wow. It's very similar because once it's done, you're like, you forget. You forget about the construction. You're just like, oh, this freeway now has two extra lanes. Yeah, I don't have the supplies necessary to build the house right now. Okay. You know who's been under construction for about 30 years? The Cleveland Browns.

Any day now. They have not won the AFC North since 1989. Okay. 30 was kind. Falcon, when were you born? 96. 96. You're freaking weird.

Collie. So you've never seen Cleveland, you know, atop the AFC North? Nope. Josh has. All right. Cleveland. Five and 12 last year. He had a five and a half win total. They delivered the five. This year it's up at six and a half guys.

Fourth easiest strength of schedule and it's at six and a half wins. No more Miles Garrett. So like your reason to watch has gone down. That's great news for the aforementioned Ravens and Cincinnati Bengals. Cleveland's favorite in two games this year. I think the- Against two. Atlanta and Las Vegas. probably both home games Kyle the Browns are favored against your thousands

that's got to feel bad it has to hurt so much I mean obviously that game's got to be in Cleveland yeah maybe in the winter oh my gosh and the old adage you know if you have two quarterbacks you have none

what if you have like six what if you have none quarterbacks you also have none yeah that's how the math works 30th and points per game last year or 31st 30th and yards per game You just said you love Todd Monkin, but this is a tall task.

Year 1 is a head coach. He's 60 years old. We looked at, we looked this up. There are eight first time head coaches over the last 25 years that were. 55 or more. Good cutoff. Yeah. Didn't work out well for them.

They averaged 6.4 wins. Only Bruce Ariens and Mike Zimmer lasted more than three years. Todd Monkin, congrats on getting that job. This was the one you're going to get. Yeah. And to be clear, don't know that Todd Monkin is a good head coach. There are plenty of great coordinators who are not made to be head coaches at 60. I think that's going to be even harder. But it's a good offense

of mind, which is fun. Some of the things you've been hearing out of camp, which obviously this time of year are the only things you're going to hear are good. Oh, I really like, you know, the offensive system and some of the changes. But they, you know, they went out and they spent in the draft on which we liked it. Yes. Concepcion. And Denzel Boston. We liked the players that they drafted. We kind of wish they would have gone to a situation that could have more impact for fantasy football earlier.

But Concepcion, Denzel Boston has... Boston's been making a lot of headlines. Those are two players that we really liked. We liked them as prospects. And they're very... I like that they're different archetypes, you know. And Concepcion, if you're going to do the kind of the... like the surface level,

well, Manken had flowers. Concepcion is a Zayflower's type of, archetype of a player. So can he maximize what KC is good at? This was a team that was tied for the lowest wide receiver target percentage in the NFL last year. Ah, yes, with the Steelers. So, you know, you have a situation where there is opportunity.

One of the big questions about Cleveland is, do we care who the quarterback is? I mean, because you kind of say, well, could it get worse? Like, you know, Watson in 2024 was dead last in EPA per play. Shoulder in 2025 was dead last in EPA per play. At the end of the day, I think my answer is still yes. I do care. Like, I want somebody that's going to, I don't care if your EPA per play is, I mean,

I do care. But I just want somebody that's going to give some of, you know, the Harold Fanon, Concepcion, Boston opportunities to make plays. You're going to be losing a lot of ball games. You talk about what kept. the minute last year, Miles Garrett was a big piece of the puzzle. Their defense was fourth in yards per game. They will be a worst defense. That is good for fantasy. I do care. I do care which guy

emerges. And I just want opportunities for these young players. I want Harold Fannan and not be a sophomore flop. This is the guy that hurts me the most in all of fantasy football. It's Harold Fana. Because I love him. I think he is. We went into the offseason.

When last season ended, I had Harold Fannon ahead of Tyler ahead of Colston Loveland. Then their teams changed. They got rid of DJ Moore. They got rid of Michael Pittman. It seemed like, okay, now there's clarity in those two. I would clearly take them over. But Fanon was so stinking good. And in the games where Chador started, which started week 12, and if you take out the injury game, where he was good in fans because he got a touchdown, but, you know, he only played 20% of snaps. During that stretch with Chador in both of their rookie seasons, he was on pace for 142 targets, 31%

team target share, almost a thousand yards, 10 touchdown pace. Like he was dominant. And I want to be in on him. Yeah, I mean, I think that that, I mean, the case you have right there is that you were the terrible team and a terrible offense and a terrible quarterback pro bowler. And you still had the effectiveness of Fanon. And I have zero fear about Boston and Concepcion. To me, fan and that is.

That is my fear. I don't have any fear of that. I think them as a tandem, even in year one, is. better than what was going on last year. Oh, it's better than what. Judy and duty. It's better than what they had. But you also had David Najoku in this offense and the numbers you just read for,

the numbers you just read for Fanon were outrageous. I mean, you just need, if your offense is going to be more competent with an offensive minded head coach and Monkin. Nojoku was just phased out. Like, I mean, it started, you know, he was the guy. Do you like Monkin or not? Do you think he can do better than what they've done? I think you can do better than what they have done.

but quarterback is just, it's the most important position in professional sports because if you don't have one and, like we saw it last year, you know, with Jacoby Brissette, he's at least competent.

Can Shadur elevate his game where he's not dead last in EPA and he's actually in a competent quarterback? Because he was not last year. I mean, he was competent enough to give Fannan some really good numbers. Yeah.

Oh, man. was to tight in five with a missed game and an injury in his second to last game. And they grabbed Spencer Fano number nine in the draft at offensive tackle even ahead of adding Concepcion and Boston. I hate these middle round tight ends,

but I love Fainted so much. And you're convulsing a little bit. Yeah, it's really difficult. Any time that you have just kind of a cloud of misery hanging over a team, I think there's opportunity in fantasy. It's going to depress values

in ADP. The Cardinals are going to be depressed. I'm depressed because I'm a Cardinal fan, but the values are going to be depressed. We saw a horrific Cardinals team put up great offensive numbers with multiple number one options in McBride and Wilson.

But they had one of the worst defenses in the league in that stretch, whereas the Browns have... I know they lost Miles Garrett, but they've still got a very good defense. They're going to lose almost all their games. It's all that matters to me is that the Cardinals are going to win maybe a game this year. The Browns are going to win maybe two.

And they're going to be trailing. They're going to throw the football. Fanon was prolific. So that turns the conversation then into Quinn Sean Judkins, who, you know. I mean, he'll get it all. Great prospects. Also was great as a rookie. You look at, no, you look at the numbers and you're like, oh, he didn't rush for a lot per carry.

He, the offensive line was trash. You watched the games. He was, he is, he looked. the part on the NFL field. It was not his fault that they were always down and six. I'm much more on Jason's side on this. I don't, I don't care about the yards per carry number for him at all.

Well, it, okay, not even yards per carry. 67% of his runs were three or fewer yards. I mean, that's one and the same. But that's just, that's effectiveness. That's efficiency. I mean, like at some, I agree, you know, maybe the offensive line is not the best,

but that's the worst rate in the NFL. No, I'm, I'm at, for that, for, for, for a player getting that amount of volume to not even be able to hit three yards on 67% of your carriers. That's a big deal. That's bad. The numbers were bad for Genti on his yards per carry. I mean, you are up against it when you have no quarterback play and you don't have the opportunity for the defense to focus on anything else. That's all I'm saying. And Monkin's a better strategist. They have a better offensive line. And I'll take a 22-year-old running back who passed the eye test to me. That's all I'm saying. I will too, but I don't like losing teams.

I don't think I'm going to put him at the top of my list. I don't think I'm going to do it this year. I want to give Judkins his props and just say he's a really good running back. But like you said, they're going to be losing games. They're going to be losing games and they're not going to score a ton of touchdowns. This isn't the situation. They don't have a good offensive line even though they added Spencer Fanow. I think I would much rather go in on the passing than the running game here.

Let's have the conversation around this division then. Jalen Warren or Quinn John Jenkins because Warren is behind him in ADP. Warren. see i'll take judkins i'll take the workload David Montgomery or quinchon judkins Montgomery's too spice behind him I think I'll take Montgomery

Judarian Price is just behind him Price will go up though Ramondre Stevenson or Quinchon that one's funny I'm gonna make you say some name that you don't like you I will take Judkins there Mike you're gonna answer it's probably Romandre DeAndre Swift oh that's easy

those are those are the guys going so it's like Tutin Swift Judkins in drafts. Most, most of those guys I would take over Judkins simply because of the Brown's situation. And I do too. I love the player. I just don't know what the ceiling cap is. Yeah. He is really up against it. Could he be

could be a top 15 back if things went right. That's kind of the A part of that discussion that is the is the targets and I'm not saying Judkins can't do that. Like we have some evidence in college that he can. But

what we saw with Monkin, with Derek Henry, when it was time to pass the ball, Derek Henry's off the field. You're saying this is a Dylan Samson? And Dylan Samson last year, he saw 40 targets. As a rookie. That's all I think of. It's so stupid. That's a question that we need training camp to hopefully answer for us is how does

Monkin view the offense? Is Judkins, to him, going to be on the field when they're, you know, when game script is great? or will he just be a three-down guy? That I don't think we have the answer to yet. Start making your notes on your division order. Okay. All right.

Because we've got to predict this division as we wrap it up. I don't know if there are any other big questions around Cleveland other than whether you'd take a shot on either of the rookie wide receivers. I think both are fine to take a shot on because they'll be very cheap. For the Browns? Yeah. I mean, like Denzel Boston is the very, he's a perfect last round pick in fantasy. Because you will not have to spin anything higher than that.

He's made a lot of headlines. What sounds a lot like the lottery ticket you were just talking about with the Ravens, where you've got to then get the right rookie. Yeah, but he's at least the second rounder. And they're the one. I mean, you've got the chance to be the one in the team. Like, Zay Flowers, you're battling to be the three or the two. Just a reminder, when we said it, Jerry Judy's still on this team,

and Isaiah Bond has been getting a lot of off-season hype around him. So the death chart for the Browns is actually pretty murky right now. Would you draft Jerry Judy in a Jerry Judy only league? No, I would quit. I would quit the league. My division winner is Baltimore followed by Cincinnati, then Pittsburgh, than Cleveland. I have Cincinnati winning the division. I figured you would.

Baltimore will go second and then Steelers and Cleveland. Jason? I've got Baltimore winning the division. I've got Pittsburgh second with the defense since he third in Cleveland is the free bingo square on Thursday on Thursday

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