Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - AFC North Breakdown + Draft Discounts - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/9

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

Let’s get divisional! On today’s fantasy football podcast, a breakdown of the AFC North division! Get the fantasy outlook for the Ravens, Browns, Steelers, and Bengals! Plus, a discussion about ta...rgeting a rushing QB or a high-powered stack in fantasy football drafts. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for July 9th, 2024. Intro - 0:00:00 Rushing QB or Stack? - 0:06:48 AFC North Breakdown - 0:13:10 Baltimore Ravens - 0:13:12 Cleveland Browns - 0:24:45 Pittsburgh Steelers - 0:37:20 Cincinnati Bengals - 0:48:12 2024 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT is available now at UltimateDraftKit.com Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:17 Check it out at ultimatedraftkit.com. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Tuesday, July 9th. Just a regular, ordinary day at the office. Regular day. Nothing different to see here.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Nope. Just a normal day sitting here hosting the show. All right. I'm on the other side of the desk. If you're watching at home. Because life is funny sometimes. and um yeah you know i'm i'm just i wanted to try something new on for size oh all right this side of the day i wanted to see the view from over here it's pretty great it's not bad um no for those that are listening everything's the same for those that are watching on youtube i am in. For those that are watching on YouTube, I am in Mike's seat.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Mike is in my seat. For the normal, ordinary reason that I knocked one of my teeth out. Yes. And I'm just vain enough to not want to put it on display for the entire show. And it's not just like a tooth hidden in the back. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, that's fine. And it's not even one of the bottom teeth the back. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, that's fine. And it's not even one of the bottom teeth.
Starting point is 00:03:06 No. It's one of the big eyes. And so originally I didn't even think I was going to do the show because I just didn't have the heart. Yeah. And I also know that if I have a missing tooth, that I could be in the middle of an amazing analytical argument about a player that I'm obviously right about. And right smack dab in the middle of an amazing analytical argument about a player that I'm obviously right about.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Right. And right smack dab in the middle of that argument, there's no way either of you can take me seriously when you see this. Or the Foot Clan. They can't watch you give a take and think that you know what you're talking about. Like, I'm taking one for the team here. Yeah, because your angle right now is right at it. I can see it, and it's great. And, yeah, look, imagine Mater from the Cars movies, and then a little worse.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Well, yeah. Just a little bit worse. I mean, don't do that to Mater. He's got all his teeth. He does technically have all of his teeth. Yeah, they're just gappy. Why a 40-year-old man just breaks a tooth off? Yeah, no normal stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Nobody knows why. Yeah. Don't talk back to me again, brother. I mean, Jason slugged me after we talked about Ayuk and Debo from years ago, and he just walloped me in the face. Yeah. So I decided I'm going to sit on the other side and hide from you out there on YouTube, which normally right now I'd be turning towards the camera, and I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:04:25 No, no you can't. I cannot do it. We'll see. This should only take a few months to fix. Also, it sounds to me, one, silver lining, not in a lot of pain. Two, I can drink through a straw with my mouth closed. Yeah, that's awesome. Three, no, there's only two.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Those are the only two that I got. You could try slurping spaghetti through the hole. I already told you I was rinsing my mouth out after I brushed my teeth yesterday and shot water right out my mouth. I mean, just this shouldn't be happening to me. You do cool tricks in the pool. This is so stupid yeah i do oh you remembered oh yeah look if you grew up in anywhere they had a pool when the when the teeth
Starting point is 00:05:12 came out for those front teeth you definitely did the uh i'm a water fountain see the thing is is at this stage of my life there's not like a third set on the way there's not like another one coming in behind it i gotta figure this thing out oh and my f sound really weird to me in my own head yeah but you guys think i sound okay so they sound fine that's all my son keeps doing to me by the way my son just keeps going you know doing the lisp all day long but i'm here all of us are. We are breaking down the divisions. What do we have? Eight divisional breakdown episodes on the way. Any news that happens? We don't have a lot of news today other than
Starting point is 00:05:52 the fact that Dak Prescott had a boot and then he didn't have a boot and he's not hurt. Yeah, it was a very short-lived injured Dak season. It was about a week. Yeah, so it was freaky in the beginning, but he's fine.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Jason mentioned it at the top, the Ultimate Draft Kit. It's available right now on app on the web. You can go get it, ultimatedraftkit.com. You can get the UDK. You can get the UDK Plus, get the draft analyzer,
Starting point is 00:06:19 break down your team, get a grade, see all of our rankings, been making some tweaks and changes every single day. And there you go. And i look i already don't like what you guys are doing i don't like what you're doing what no one's doing nothing is that is that al borland yeah conniving yeah he's just realized look he thinks he can bribe his way to the solo cam and show off my papa josh is about as cheap as a person can be oh yeah honestly him and al are he's cheaper than al but those are the
Starting point is 00:06:52 two cheapest people i know honestly 50 or so of our lunch conversations turn into us with a wild idea of like just ridiculous and then we go wait a minute josh how much it was like we were talking uh yeah defining baldness which papa josh is extremely bald but he could do the the skull hit the hit the little deucer cam but i don't have a i don't have a button to change oh they took yeah you do there you go okay see how bald he is and it was like okay but he can grow the size so how much for him over the course of a year to grow a skullet? And it's a number that will shock you that he's willing to do it. Yeah, he will always – he's willing to embarrass himself on the cheap.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And so Al's over there trying to figure out a way to – Yeah, Al's going to figure it out. Yeah, I mean, it might happen. All right, quick question of the day from Brayden. We'll talk fantasy today. I believe Kyler Murray – this is from Brayden in Michigan. I believe Kyler Murray, this is from Braden in Michigan, I believe Kyler Murray is the best fantasy asset compared to Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Or the better fantasy asset. However, if Brandon Ayuk is already on my roster, is it worth grabbing the stack instead with Brock Purdy? I guess, simply put, what is the better advantage? A running quarterback or the stack? So, Kylerler we've been
Starting point is 00:08:05 talking about for a while he just he kind of right now is the absolute apex when when it comes to upside and getting quarterback value like i love anthony richardson i think that he can finish as the number one quarterback i don't know that kyler can do number one, but Kyler can easily finish in the top five, and he is being drafted in the seventh round as the QB8. He has a fantastic value right now. So I would still be taking Kyler because I want the guy who has top five upside. Brock Purdy will probably surprise yet again. He's being drafted as the QB12.
Starting point is 00:08:45 But, I mean, we now have like a year and a half of Brock Purdy. We don't have the two full years as a starter. But just him in the system with Shanahan, he throws touchdowns at a very high level. His percentage of attempts that turn into touchdowns is very high. He finished as the QB 6 this past year. So I think that Purdy will outperform, but it's, but getting into that top five, maybe even top three, Kyler's the one who
Starting point is 00:09:11 can do it where Brock Purdy cannot. So I think for your team, it's, it's better to go with Kyler. And there's, there's values to having a stack, but that doesn't mean that that's in lieu of, of, of, of running quarterback. You know what I mean? If you wanted to take Marvin Harrison Jr., you can do that to stack with Kyler still. Kyler's at a really, really good value. It's not like the difference between a seventh-round pick and a ninth-round pick that Brock Purdy costs you. You're not really saving some incredible asset in the seventh round saying hey I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm gonna wait a little later um and I'm gonna get a great seventh round pick that's just I would rather have the better quarterback which is Kyler yeah you want the most points every week Kyler scores more points every week then that's better than a stack it's not like you get bonus points for having two teammates um sometimes you get the correlation where a big game can help you, but if Kyler scores 30 that week and Brock scores 25, it doesn't help you. Yeah, it's interesting where they're going
Starting point is 00:10:14 right now. I made a very big blockbuster dynasty trade. In fact, on this show, I think I was mocking the fact that I've never waited so long for somebody to decide on a trade. I'd sent this thing through. It was like two weeks of waiting. And it was legit. They were legit thinking about this trade. But my old dynasty team-
Starting point is 00:10:37 With no picks. With no picks for the next three years chose this year to trade Josh Allen for Kyler in a first-round pick. And historically, you have done well with this type of a maneuver. I believe you had Patrick Mahomes, and you traded him for Herbert in a first right before Herbert broke out, and it was like, I don't even know who you'd rather have between Mahomes and Herbert, and then you got a first. And then you turned around and sold Herbert for another young quarterback
Starting point is 00:11:08 or for Josh Allen in a pick. You know, you can do these things at the right time, and Kyler's value is low right now where him plus a pick next year, Kyler will be seen among the better quarterbacks. It is an interesting year for Josh Allen in general with the receiving core. It's not like, I mean, we all have him ranked number one. I'd certainly rather have him on my roster, but the value proposition right now for a team with no picks in Dynasty,
Starting point is 00:11:34 I think it's there to go and get Kyler. And Purdy inherently has the risks that any pocket quarterback has. So quarterback six could become quarterback 13, right? Because you can just have – Mike talked about the efficiency throwing touchdowns. You know, that is not necessarily something that repeats all the time. And so the variability is very high there, whereas if Kyler's on the field, you know, we've seen him as the quarterback, what, two before
Starting point is 00:12:02 in terms of over the stretch of a season? For context of the league average for touchdown attempts or attempts turning into touchdowns, it sits at about 4.5% or so league-wide. And Brock Purdy was 7.6 two years ago and 7% this past year. So I will bet that Brock Purdy will have another efficient year like this, but if that drops to 6% or 5.5%, 6%, then it's probably not enough. I just looked left to try to figure out the time of the show. Ah, yeah, we've got a clock over there that lets
Starting point is 00:12:46 you know. But it's to the right now. That's funny. Be careful. And then Brock Purdy also People are going to be Zapruder filming these things. Oh, yeah. You're a hockey player. The efficiency of Brock Purdy, if it comes down just a smidge, you've got to worry about
Starting point is 00:13:01 the total attempts. You're talking about how many touchdowns per attempt. If you want to know who threw the ball the fewest times in the entire NFL last year it was the 49ers so that I mean they didn't even crack 500 attempts which is wildly low for 2024 all right um so we're in agreement then that you like Kyler over Purdy at that stage of the draft now if Kyler's price goes up, there could be some buzz around the McBride-Harrison in-camp. They brought in Zay Jones. They have some weapons on offense that people like, Connor. If Kyler's a fifth-round pick and Purdy's a ninth-round pick,
Starting point is 00:13:42 does that change the discussion enough? Richardson's in the fifth, right? Yeah. Yeah, it would change it a lot. It's just unbelievable how much Jason's avoiding looking this direction. Not on purpose. All right, here we go. Into the breakdown.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Breakdown. Let's get divisional. All right, we are going to begin with the AFC North. Big boy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this division is wild. And we'll be looking at offseason changes, players, coaches, rookies. We'll look at what last season's offenses were like,
Starting point is 00:14:20 how they might function this year, and then give some takes on our win totals, who could win the division. Do we normally make early predictions on these episodes? Yeah, usually we'll- Throughout divisional winners. Yep. Not that I want to look back,
Starting point is 00:14:35 but I assume I've always had them right. Yeah, don't look back. Yeah, don't worry about it. Okay. Baltimore won the division 13-4. Cleveland 11-6. Pittsburgh 10-7 because, of course. And then Cincinnati at 9-8.
Starting point is 00:14:51 So every team about 500. First time since 1935. Prepping for the show, I was blown away when I saw that the Steelers won 10 games. Just remembering that last year's... Felt like they lost about 40. Yeah, I mean, they weren't a very good team and they won 10 games tomlin you and yeah in division they were five and one right the best what i mean they were a good team the best in division of the best division in football how good were they this is the first time since 1935 1935
Starting point is 00:15:26 where you had an entire division finish with a winning record. Stats are nice. We've got to share it twice. Baltimore 13-4 lost to the Chiefs in the AFC title game. Last year they had a projected win total of 10.5 this year.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah, 10.5 last year. This year it's at 10.5. Opened at 11.5. They have a hard strength to schedule for 2024. So we spent so much of last offseason. Let's get this out of the way. Talking about Todd Monken and the offense and throwing the football and all of the positives, negatives, and in between,
Starting point is 00:16:02 I guess it was mostly positives in the offseason hype. But now that the season's in the bag, we got to witness Zay Flowers' rookie season and then them figure things out at running back throughout the year with the Gus Buss
Starting point is 00:16:20 and the injury to Dobbins and such. What was your overall reaction to the Baltimore Ravens offense? I think it was overhyped, but it did deliver on it. Like we wanted so much more than we even received. We were so greedy with wanting this passing game to be super electric. It was still the best in a lot of ways. It was the best Lamar has played, you know, his passing percentage and a lot of metrics were really, really good across the board. From a fantasy perspective, he was the quarterback four, which was the best he'd been in, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:56 the previous three years. So it was really, really good. But, you know, this wasn't a fantasy football game breaking team like you hoped with Monk and coming over. But year two in this system, it should take a small step forward. I do have a lot of worries about the offensive line. I don't think enough has been made about the Ravens. You get Derrick Henry. It's great. And it's like, oh, Derrick Henry finally gets to go play for a team with a good line. It's like, nope, nope. No, he doesn't because they had a good line last year.
Starting point is 00:17:29 They do not this year. They lost, I think, three of their starters. And, you know, so you worry. But year two in the system, Derrick Henry is still an upgrade over, you know, Gus Edwards and Justice Hill. The team feels a little weird to me. I mean, last year, the numbers in terms of what they put up on offense didn't match the fantasy football experience with Dobbins' injury, with Mark Andrews' injury.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Lamar went at 32 in last year's draft so that was the quarterback four so you know Lamar had a good season Zay Flowers was a value as the wide receiver 42 but not I guess just for what they did on offense it doesn't feel like they made as much of a contribution to the fantasy world. Yeah, I can see that, but I'm with Jason that I have some excitement of year two and look, it can take guys some time to
Starting point is 00:18:36 acclimate to an offense, but to finish as the quarterback for while Jay said the highest completion percentage of his career, he was at eight yards an attempt. We didn't get the super Madden football numbers on the ground where it was 821 rushing yards compared to the 1,200 and the 1,000
Starting point is 00:18:59 in those back-to-back years. And even when you compare the 821 yards this year in 16 games to last year in 12 games 764 I think that there's there's room that that goes back up for Lamar uh so I think that he's he's appropriately going in drafts for what he can give you and with all the risks that he carries he only had three games of 70-plus rushing yards last year. We didn't see as many ceiling rushing games, not as many design runs. So that's something to pay attention to as his career goes on. Henry, like you said, last year we were going into the season
Starting point is 00:19:39 with them as the fifth-ranked offensive line. This year going in as PFF's 25th ranked as they lost Zeitler and Moses and Simpson. That just means more scrambling. Go, go! Yeah, you know, I don't know. I don't know how I feel. It's a very difficult division with a very difficult
Starting point is 00:19:58 schedule with an older running back. You know, this is a team that has been dealing with carousel at the position of running back you know this is a team that has been dealing with carousel at the position of running back and uh henry's health will play a big part in how the season goes because we're going to be right back if anything happens to him like you don't justice hill and the waiver wire and that you know they'll be signing more veterans again. Yeah, more than likely. Rasheed Ali is there as well. But for Derrick Henry, you can't argue with what has happened
Starting point is 00:20:31 to the offensive line, but Baltimore, just like Pittsburgh, it's one of those teams that you believe in the franchise, you believe that double-digit wins should happen for them. They'll be contending for the division. And then for Derrick Henry specifically, a good friend of the show, Scott Barrett, had recently sent a tweet out talking about Derrick Henry's splits in wins and losses, which we all know. Yeah, we brought it up a lot. But it's like, here's the actual numbers. In wins from 2018 to 2023, Derrick Henry has averaged
Starting point is 00:21:02 over 20 fantasy points per week and then 12 in a loss. And if this is a team that is winning more than they're losing, that's humongous for what Derrick Henry will bring. One of the things that we didn't get a lot of last year was Mark Andrews, obviously, with the injury. Isaiah Likely was involved towards the back half of the season. Andrews made it back for the playoff game.
Starting point is 00:21:24 But before the injury, he was on pace for 81, 984, and 11. I'm looking at this schedule to start the year for Baltimore, and it's brutal defensively what they're going up against. They're going to be in Kansas City to kick off the season. They're going to face the Las Vegas defense, which ended the year on fire. Then they're going to go into Dallas against the Dallas defense. Then they're going to play Buffalo's defense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 So that is like, we try not to overemphasize strength of schedule over the course of the whole year, but we do pay attention to this to the top of the year when you're making a difference, you know, a decision in your draft about a player like Lamar. Is that as intimidating to you as it is to me, those first four matchups?
Starting point is 00:22:08 It's not great, Bob, but it'll be all right for who Lamar is and the fact that, yeah, these are pretty high-powered defenses, but that's a lot of really high-powered offenses that could force. You could force some shootout opportunities here too. I brought up the fact that Zay Flowers might be a bust compared to his ADP. but you could force some shootout opportunities here too. I brought up the fact that Zay Flowers might be a bust compared to his ADP a couple weeks ago. I saw the feedback. People were very, very unhappy.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah. Strong disagreement. And we talked about the fact that he has so many downfield targets, so many behind-the-line-of-scrimmage targets. There were only a handful of players like that, the Rondell Moore style. A lot of people's feedback was that they just believe Zay Flowers is a complete player that's going to make a huge step forward, and you look at the wide receiver room,
Starting point is 00:22:58 and he has to be a go-to receiver for them. Yeah, it's a good thing to point out how good he is, right? I don't think you're... Which I was not. I didn't think he was a bad player. No, right. Exactly. He's a very good player. He's also very young in the sense that going into year two, you expect him to take a step forward. He will be the number one wide receiver for this team, but he might not be the number one pass catcher because Mark Andrews is still the guy. I know we've got name fatigue with him and he's been injured a couple times over the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:23:28 So he's let fantasy football managers down. But this is the main pass catcher in the offense. And you see that in the splits with Mark Andrews on the field, without Mark Andrews on the field. It was a different world. 22% of the targets with Mark Andrews on the field. That's for Zay Flowers. When Mark Andrews was gone, it was up at 28.
Starting point is 00:23:47 That's a huge difference for fans. What is his ADP right now? Zay Flowers? Zay Flowers, I'm sorry. Top of the fifth, wide receiver 25. Okay. Yeah, that's right on the edge for me because Zay Flowers last year with Andrews missing time was the wide receiver 30.
Starting point is 00:24:06 So, you know, 25 seems doable if the season goes the right way, if he can get into the end zone. I'm in agreement that his ADP, I don't like it, but he is such a difficult archetype of successful rookie, year two, still the number one guy. To bet against that is – those are signs that we look for, but I think that in between, reading in between the lines, there's enough for me to believe that I'm willing to be wrong with Zay Flowers
Starting point is 00:24:41 is how I'm going to approach it. All right, one last thing I want to look at before we move on in the division is just, uh, where's Lamar's current ADP? I'm seeing him at 39 overall. QB three. Is that what we got? I'm seeing QB four. Okay. Which is what he was. He was drafted as the QB four last year. He's up three. No, he's down. He's down from last year's ADP from what I'm seeing. Do you have that up? We normally have that in the show doc here. I just don't see it for Lamar. I think it's a tie. From where he was going last year?
Starting point is 00:25:13 No, I'm saying a tie between Lamar and Mahomes are tied. Okay. It'll be interesting with that beginning season schedule. We'll take a break. We'll come back with more of this ferocious AFC North. All right, moving on from Baltimore. We're going into the 11-6 Cleveland Browns, who lost to the Texans in the wild card round. They managed to outperform their win total from last year, which was 9.5. Got to 11, despite four different quarterbacks taking snaps.
Starting point is 00:25:58 This year, they're- Or because of it. You know what I mean? Getting Flacco in there, winning some games. It's not a bad point this year their projected win total is eight and a half down a game they have a very difficult strength of schedule third hardest in the league they also have a healthy Deshaun Watson to start the year so it was a weird season for Cleveland. They dealt with major injuries at the quarterback position.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Nick Chubb off the field had the excitement at the end of the year for fantasy with Joe Flacco and Amari Cooper. The big game in what? Semifinal week? But last year they were ninth in points for a game, sixth in pace of play.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Number one in yards for a game in terms of the defense. So if you take and you look at that Lamar schedule that I told you to begin the year, right, and then you mix in the fact that none of those – they got to play Cleveland's number one ranked defense two times, right? Then they got to play the Steelers a couple times in division. These teams normally kind of eat themselves right but last year they all ended up above 500 beating other teams you know cleveland is a team that i i do believe in i think i've been pretty vocal about that this offseason i think kevin safanski is an outstanding coach i think what he did last year was coach the year worthy in
Starting point is 00:27:23 overcoming like who's the linchpin of your entire offense? You know, this would be like, you know, back in the Tennessee, when Tennessee was winning ballgames and you lose Derrick Henry and then you lose Ryan Tannehill and then you go 11-6 and you make the playoffs. Nick Chubb was the centerpiece of what they did. He pieced it together. Their defense obviously held them up.
Starting point is 00:27:46 They added Jerry Judy this offseason, which I know in the fantasy world, that's not been a fun ride. In the real life world, it's not been a fun ride, but he's still a young, talented player. Jerry Judy is a – I like that you separated them and you're like, well, I did separate them and then I decided – but no, he's a better player, I think, in reality,
Starting point is 00:28:08 than he has been for fantasy. Yeah, but he's been a disappointment in both. Yes, it's more in fantasy because of the expectations. Yeah, and if you compare him to Elijah Moore, he's going to look real good, both in fantasy and in the real world. I guess that's my point, is that he's going to help their team. I do believe that. He should be a help to their team. He's not someone that I think we would recommend drafting.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You look at the games that Deshaun Watson played. It's funny because we went into last season going, I really don't know what to make of this passing game because we don't know what to make of Deshaun Watson. And now we have no new information. It's like he played a handful of games, got injured, looked good. Some games looked awful. Some games is the shoulder fine. You know, I'm more focused on the, the other pieces because I'm, I'm not going to, I'm not going to push my chips in on Deshaun Watson. I don't think I need to. Uh, but when it comes to Amari Cooper, David Njoku, those, those are two important pieces for fantasy where you've got to you know pick your poison do you believe in both of them they obviously both showed out last year they were they were very very good you watch the film and you say hey these guys are great hey so how do you mother for me
Starting point is 00:29:15 uh these guys are great players and so now it's just candace on watson getting them the ball a bet on them is a bet on watson to some degree And, you know, Watson, 11 total starts the last two years, five top 12 finishes in those starts. His completion rate has been terrible in Cleveland compared to what it was in Houston. He has been running the football. And the PFF grade on their line coming into the season, at least, is fourth. Yeah, they have majorly improved it, so maybe that'll help Watson.
Starting point is 00:29:48 What we saw with Watson on the field last year was what he's been his whole career. He'll scramble around. He'll run a little bit. He's not like Flacco, who's just going to get the ball and get it out quick, and that really helped David Njoku. He'll hold on to the ball and push the ball down the field to Amari Cooper. When you have those five full games with Cooper, he had a 17-game pace of 1,600 yards and seven touchdowns,
Starting point is 00:30:12 whereas David Njoku with Deshaun Watson had a 17-game pace of 600 yards and three touchdowns, much worse in his splits with Flacco. And I worry about, like I think Njoku showed that he needs to be an integral part of this offense. But I also think some of it is the play style of Watson, who doesn't fit as well with the tight end position here as he does with pushing the ball downfield. Look, I think if you don't want to bet on Watson,
Starting point is 00:30:41 that is a prerogative of yours in fantasy. Like, that's fine. I think if you don't want to have to have your chips in on him being successful and you just don't want to deal with it, that's a logical conclusion. I just don't think we saw very much. I think the samples are small. And then when he did play, he also played injured at times last year. We have a new offensive coordinator in Ken Dorsey coming over. He's talked about the scheme changing to be something where they open it up a little bit more, throw the ball downfield. Cooper does it better than anyone down there.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Jerry Judy can get downfield, and Njoku can get into the seam and get downfield as well. He talked about Cam's MVPCs, and he talked about Josh Allen's development. Dorsey did in his introductory press conference. And look, you just have to... You have no choice if you're Cleveland to aspire to those goals of getting this offense rolling because their
Starting point is 00:31:33 defense is so good that if Watson was 80% of his former self, this is a team that will win 11 games or more this year again. Because they did it on the... They won games with Dorian Thompson-Robinson. They won games with – what's the other guy I'm forgetting about? Other than Flacco.
Starting point is 00:31:52 There was another. And who was there? It was a P.J. Walker. Was it Walker? Walker. It was, right? Yeah, it was P.J. Walker. I mean, they won games with bad quarterback play beyond Watson last year.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Oh, guys. And the guy who had Scott was got a plan. Jeff Driscoll. Wait, so was it five? Yeah. It was five. Five quarterbacks. Excuse me. Coach of the year, Kevin Stefanski. So, no Flacco as a backup this year.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And they added Deontay, or I'm sorry, they added Jerry Judy to the offense. Jameis Winston's the new backup there, so you get the same thing as Flacco. If Watson goes down, you might be plus in the fantasy world. And they did. So the running back room is worth a pretty big discussion of Nick Chubb, the catastrophic knee injury in week two,
Starting point is 00:32:50 the same knee that he had exploded also as a collegiate athlete. So, I mean, it's sad. It sucks. It's unfortunate. But the team did keep him on board, so he's doing all the rehab stuff with them. We're seeing more and more video. I am – look, Nick Chubb is going in the back of the eighth, running back 29. I am more of the approach of I'm just betting against him,
Starting point is 00:33:12 and Jerome Ford, who is the presumed starter, is going in the 11th round, at least presumed by me, week one, and he's the RB41. And last year, he looked like he belonged on a football field he was a lunch pay a running back he'd show up and get the work done exactly so it's like it he was not inept he was he was very capable i mean he was a top 24 running back 11 times like this he gave you really good production off the waiver wire. So I look for that to continue. But where are you guys making bets anywhere on Nick Chubb,
Starting point is 00:33:50 drafting any exposure to him? I am betting against Nick Chubb. I'm with you, Mike. I'm going to take the side of history, age, the specific injury. You know, sometimes later in a career career a guy's just built different and Adrian Peterson comes back as the number one running back and if a guy could do that it's Nick Chubb yes but I'm still gonna bet against it because the only example we have really is that Adrian Peterson of like the late career incredible first year back from and that was more of a simple ACL
Starting point is 00:34:20 this was a pretty catastrophic injury where when it first happened, we were like, will he play again? Now he's looking good. And I think ADP wise, he'll continue to rise as we get closer, unless it's official that he's like going to be put on the pup. But the more videos that you see of him working out, you're going to be more in. They brought in Deonta Foreman, but also keep in mind, they lost Kareem Hunt here. That was 4% percent of their targets 26 percent of their carries and nine rushing touchdowns was you know kareem hunt so i'm i'm in on ford in those double digit rounds uh so judy in the 12th thumbs up or thumbs down no thank you ask me judy in the 17th no because you're gonna say no I think Judy's gonna be very involved Jason are you just are you just mad at him
Starting point is 00:35:10 yes he was like yes he is you loved him how about now I'm in on Njoku at his ADP I'm in on I'm in on not Watson not Chubb.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Ford is fine as a flyer. And this is a weird team because they're probably going to win a lot of ballgames. Yeah. But you're going to have to piece together the running back room, receivers outside of Cooper, and then the bet on Njoku. Look, he's one of my favorite options because he's an eighth-round pick. So when you get towards the end, I'd rather have him and the chance that the form we saw at the end of last year,
Starting point is 00:35:50 you get some of that than I would just going in on a basement guy like a Dalton Schultz or, you know, somebody else. It will be super frustrating if they don't continue using him the way that they finished. Cedric Tillman, by the way, should be a starting outside wide receiver if you're looking in deeper leagues. Yeah. He's going to be outside along with Amari Cooper
Starting point is 00:36:11 with Jerry Judy in the slot. Mike, you said that like I shouldn't have said it. No, no, no. Trust me. I think it's always worth mentioning these auxiliary guys. For this team and their makeup, that seems like a really long shot. On top of that, year one,
Starting point is 00:36:31 we try to see some peripheral numbers like targets per route run and yards per route run, and they were both atrocious for Cedric Tillman. It's not a very inspiring profile. I heard tarts. Do you like a good morning tart? Like a pop tart? Yeah, I like a pop tart.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Yeah, if that counts as a tart, I'm in. Brown sugar. Don't come at me. Brown sugar's number one? Oh, yeah. Who's coming at you for taking the unanimous number one? Yeah, probably like strawberry people. Strawberry's fine.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Blueberry's fine. Brown sugar's... They're all good, but brown sugar's the best that's the only one i don't like whoa yeah i know i know but uh you wouldn't eat that i mean don't hear what i'm not saying i would eat that do you go are you a popped or an unpopped man wait so usually yeah i know what he's saying toasted oh yeah that's called popped toasted why do you think they call it a pop tart because it pops no it pops out. No, I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:37:27 A toaster tart. It's not. Toasted, greater sign untoasted, but also longer to mouth. And that's the problem. So oftentimes what I'll do, you know, pro move. You open that package. There's two in there. You pop one in the toaster.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You toast one and you eat one? And I eat one right away. I'm a toasted all the time, man. Eat while you wait, baby. And you butter that toasted Pop-Tart when it comes out. And if you don't, I've upgraded your life. You butter it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yes, sir. I opened up. Well. What's this thing running, like 750 calories? Who cares? I opened up a can here, Mike. Wow. It's a box.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Do you butter your donuts? No. That's ridiculous. They're fried. All right. Pittsburgh, 10-7. We talked about it. Lost to Buffalo in the wild card round.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Was projected to win eight and a half games. Of course, they outkicked that. Eight and a half is the win total this year we are rebuilding the quarterback position we're taking another shot at it because last year this was the 25th slowest or the 25th in pace of play 28th in points per game 25th in total yard 30th in passing percentage 13 total passing touchdowns on the year wow wow dead last in win yeah team yeah they only threw 13 touchdowns that seems impossible dead last in neutral pass rate 31st and explosive pass plays
Starting point is 00:38:56 they were hard to watch and won 10 games brutal yeah it was brutal and you even had struggles early season struggles by Najee Harris and the call for Jalen Warren to be more involved and quarterbacks like Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph trading off opportunities they lose Deontay Johnson this offseason who was a stalwart in the wide receiver room I'm sure he I mean he's probably like cool I mean this team didn't pass and okay they got Arthur Smith now yeah now. Yeah, they picked up Arthur Smith. Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, discount opportunities at the quarterback position for the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:39:36 They added a couple of, you know, I would say better quarterbacks than they had on the Chiefs. Yes, for as fun and easy as it is to just take cheap shots at Russell Wilson, he's a better quarterback than what they had. And I do feel like the Pittsburgh fans are ferocious, proud,
Starting point is 00:39:56 all the things you should be. Well, they got those towels. You should be proud. And they're terrible. If you have this franchise, you should be very proud of your franchise. But I think sometimes it gets lost that there is this, like, yes, they were 10-7. So they want me to get on here and say, you're amazing. You're the best team.
Starting point is 00:40:13 We are a fantasy football show. We watch every game. You hurt us physically when you made us watch you play football last year. So they were not fun to watch you shook your head with the wins and they're not going to be fun to watch again that's where is that where you're at yeah 100 this is a team you're saying and not me yeah and no they're not going to be fun to watch uh russell wilson was not fun to watch last year but they'll win games just like they did last year, which means that becomes a little bit more difficult for a switch at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:40:47 You know, I've been of the mindset that I think Justin Fields has talent that needs to be molded, and if he's at a good franchise and given the opportunity, I think he can do special stuff. But the truth is Russell Wilson's the starter. He's beating him, you know him so far in the early camps. He's been the better player. And they have made it very clear that Russell Wilson is the starter. And then they can have a competition down the line.
Starting point is 00:41:15 If they win games, Russ isn't going to be replaced. And they can win games without throwing a bunch of touchdowns. One of the other frustrating offenses to watch last year was the Atlanta Falcons run by Arthur Smith. No three wide receiver sets. Get the tight ends on the field and run the ball a ton. You're going to have that here. It's going to be
Starting point is 00:41:35 boring and successful. Not for fantasy though. 26 touchdowns. That's what Russell Wilson did last year in Denver. That would be double the passing touchdowns in Pittsburgh if he could pull that off. He'll do it without Deontay Johnson. That's a lot better.
Starting point is 00:41:53 He'll have Roman Wilson, a rookie wide receiver, getting involved on the other side of George Pickens, who I think is primed for a great season with the upgrade at quarterback. He did so much with so little last year. George Pickens, you know, I think we all really like the draft price right now. I like him. I think he's primed for a true breakout campaign, eight targets per game last year when Deontay Johnson was off the field.
Starting point is 00:42:23 That's a nice baseline. And just the way that the Arthur system I expected to run is like Roman. I like Roman Wilson, the player. I think that like his career, he will have a good career. I think it was a good draft pick. But he's not one of the rookie wide receivers that I'm targeting in redraft uh we've seen some Steelers I would say the most of Steelers rookie wide receivers take some time before they really get acclimated into becoming a go-to part of the team and you just have so many of of Arthur's plays being the two wide receiver sets. And he's still a rookie, and while it's kind of laughable to think about Van Jefferson as a starting wide receiver, someone like that, a veteran,
Starting point is 00:43:14 I think will play in front of Roman for the majority of the season. I think you could be right. I think Roman Wilson will need some time. And I don't want to draft Van Jefferson. No. And Cordero Patterson is there, so who knows what tricks Arthur has up his sleeves for him. We'll talk running backs momentarily.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I'll just mention Pickens. The cumulative stats last year were great on what opportunities he had. The week-to-week experience was awful. He was a D consistency. 35% of the time he was giving you a good week. If you caught one of those weeks, you probably won it because they were huge, but you're looking for consistency from George Pickens
Starting point is 00:43:54 this year. They obviously believe in him having Deontay Johnson shipped off to Carolina. The last part of the conversation is going to be Najee Harris, Jalen Warren, and the running game. Something that Arthur Smith, even though he picked personnel that we didn't always like, was very successful with. They're coming into the season with a much higher-graded offensive line
Starting point is 00:44:15 than they did last year. They drafted offensive line. If you are a Najee Harris, Jalen Warren manager, are you going to be singing Arthur Sith's praises? Probably not. I'll bet it's a frustrating combination, and Cordero Patterson will be used. I mean, he was used on the goal line ahead of Bijan Robinson
Starting point is 00:44:36 sometimes last year, so it will get frustrating. I do think where Najee is going, and you could make the same exact argument for Warren, who's going around the same spot, they're okay draft picks. This is going to be a team that wins. I like Najee is going and you could make the same exact argument for Warren who's you know going around the same spot they're okay draft picks this is going to be a team that like Najee it's going to be a team that wins games that is running out the clock that improve their offensive line so yeah Najee is fine this isn't a sexy pick that's going to be a top five I like Warren more two rounds later just because of explosiveness yeah I mean I just feel like they're very equal in their fantasy production that I'm expecting this year and I feel like I could get a discount
Starting point is 00:45:08 on Warren but I I've heard you guys both say you like Najee a lot so I feel like I still think Najee is going to get the majority of the opportunities and if that's the case you know especially if you get you're looking at this archetype of someone that can get goal line opportunities I think when you get down in the red zone, he'll be more valuable for fantasy. Obviously, reception is worth more, and so if they think Warren is the better pass catcher and he is in on those plays, then yeah, sure. It was 53% of snaps for Najee last year, 48% for Warren.
Starting point is 00:45:42 So Najee had the advantage. You're right about the goal line. The passing game, probably more Warren, more explosiveness from Warren. I just like the discount, but maybe at that point in the draft, you know, seventh, ninth round, maybe the difference is not moving the needle for you. Yeah, well, one last thing I want to bring up, going back to Van Jefferson potentially being that two, you know, that second wide receiver and two wide receiver sets.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I just, this is just fascinating to me. And maybe you guys saw this, felt it, and this isn't surprising at all. Allen Robinson. Yeah. Played 17 games last year for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Allen Robinson played 72% of the offensive snaps. This was a guy on the field all the time that is very surprising i mean yeah well you're saying that because he didn't get 300 yards i mean they are fine having a wide receiver out there to uh block and help the run game and slow things
Starting point is 00:46:41 down and so yeah roman wilson i i hate your take because I think it's right. I love Roman Wilson. And I think he's going to come along slow and they're going to leave Van Jefferson out there. Fryermuth? I like Fryermuth. If you have completely punted, like ADP-wise, if I'm remembering right it feels like David Njoku is the kind of the the end of where I feel like this player should be involved the Muth is going in the 11th tight end 16 so he's just like you if you punt I think that he is an okay target he's the number two
Starting point is 00:47:20 target in this offense I mean I I think it, I think it'll be clear that he is the second target behind George Pickens. It's not going to be Van Jefferson and probably not going to be Roman Wilson. Allen Robinson ran more routes for this team than Debo Samuel ran last year. Exactly. What in the world?
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah, that was a tough team to watch. We'll take a break. Come back with the Bengals. What do you think Allen Robinson is doing right now? Running. Just sprints. Just wind sprints. Just preparing. He's got to be in good, good cardio shape.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I'll bet he does a lot of push-ups too. He's not on a roster, right? All the blocking. I think he is. Is he on a roster, right? All the blocking. I think he is. Is he on a roster? I do. Kyle? I know you follow him closely. He's a giant.
Starting point is 00:48:12 No, he's not. Yeah. No, he's huge. It's just, he is a monster. Yeah, he's in there. He's a giant. And that's, he's like, what? That's a team he could make.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I know, that's what I'm saying. That's a team he could make. He looked out there at all the NFL rostersters yeah all right which one could i make the cut oh gosh look at the giants let me go there oh man the fall of alan robinson was so insanely fast precipitous yes like it was this guy is going to be an elite fantasy player for years. And no. He fooled Sean McVay. I will always remember that. He fooled Sean McVay.
Starting point is 00:48:52 He sure did. Ipso facto, he fooled me. He sure did. I mean, he played at 29 last year. You guys remember Mike Evans, my guy? That's who I like to remember. That's good. All right. Cincinnati, nine and eight last year they had an 11 and a half win total injury to their starting quarterback uh
Starting point is 00:49:15 undermine that ends up nine and eight still a lot of fight from this team. This year, the projected win total, 10.5, which that's – is that tied with Cleveland? No, no, it's ahead of Cleveland. So right now, in order of the win totals in Vegas, you have Baltimore and Cincinnati tied at 10.5, and then what, Cleveland at 9.5, Pittsburgh at 8.5. All right, getting back to how it worked out last year
Starting point is 00:49:46 they made it work on offense Jake Browning took over for Joe Burrow a lot of short targets lowest ADOT in the NFL slow pace of play you know they got it working but it just wasn't what we expected from this team because without Joe Burrow, you're just not the same.
Starting point is 00:50:08 They do get a better strength of schedule this year because they get a fourth-place schedule. Are you expecting just a bounce-back type of season from Cincinnati? No more Joe Mixon, obviously, in the running game, but with, you know with the guy behind center. I would say yes. I would put it in the expecting. Joe Burrow still has it.
Starting point is 00:50:36 This team, it was so strange last year. You would have these games of Jamar Chase. It felt like every target jamar chase was getting was was at the line or behind the line of scrimmage and they were just saying please jamar chase do something make a play yeah i mean they were so depleted of t higgins being banged up and missing games and not having a franchise quarterback so they it's it they were doing the best that they could with what they had. And to have that level of success, and now you're currently sitting at, or you will be back to full strength, I should say.
Starting point is 00:51:15 So I would, yes, I would expect it. Yeah, I mean, this is just, if Joe Burrow's wrist is fine, I think this is a massive bounce back. I believe that the weapons here are undervalued. And I mean that almost across the board. I think this is a massive bounce back. I believe that the weapons here are undervalued. And I mean that almost across the board. I think T. Higgins is undervalued. You can't really, I mean, when Chase is in the first round, okay, but he could be the wide receiver one. I think he's in that discussion and he's not really. It's Seedy and Tyreek. And Joe Burrow has been great. You got to, Joe Burrow tore up his calf in training camp last year
Starting point is 00:51:47 and barely made it back to the field for week one. Joe Burrow played two months of football. Listen to this. The first month of football, coming back off that calf injury, here was his 17-game pace over that first month. He would have thrown 3,000 yards and rushed for 12. 12. You don't think there was a calf problem there? That's a 17,
Starting point is 00:52:07 not an average per game. For 12 yards? He would have rushed for 12 yards over 17 games on that average over the first month. He was getting rid of the ball. Yeah, because he didn't look right. But then the second month when that calf actually healed, he was on pace for 5,000 passing yards, 265 rushing yards. It was Joe Burrow that we're used to seeing. And so you're getting a discount right now on the fact that he was injured and looked bad through injury last year. But the two previous years, this is a guy, you know, you talk about pocket passers, and you're like, well, you've got to throw for 4,500 yards,
Starting point is 00:52:39 and you've got to throw for near 35 touchdowns. It's really hard to do, you know, betting on that. Well, both the previous two seasons he basically did that. 4,634 two years before, and 4,475 and 35 touchdowns the previous season. So I think one of the interesting things about Baltimore is, or I'm sorry about Cincinnati. Let's talk about Baltimore again. Speaking of golf.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I think one of the interesting things about Cincinnati is they may be the most primed for fantasy football value in the division. Yes. And I think they're going to finish dead last in the division. Really? That's where I'm at. I think they are the perfect makeup. You're talking about a division right now where they were 24th in points per game, given up. 31st in yards per game, given up. They were
Starting point is 00:53:30 a terrible defense last year. They're in a division where Pittsburgh was 7th in points per game. Cleveland was number one in yards per game. Baltimore was number one in points per game, 6th in yards per game. You're talking about three of the best defenses in football, and then you have the Cincinnati Bengals defense. And I'm saying that as a positive for fantasy. We know what this is like. We know that it's one of the reasons why we saw a lot of excitement and success when Kansas City's defense wasn't as good as it used to be.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Yeah, that was great. And Cincinnati's a situation where I think they're going to give up a lot of points, which means that Burrow, Higgins, Chase, whoever they figure out at running back, Chase Brown, Zach Moss, and even Mike Gesicki, Jermaine Burton, as a kind of deep, deep flyer as a rookie with no Tyler Boyd. I think that they are primed for fantasy opportunities, but I don't think that they are going to compete in this division. I don't.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I think they will. I think they won't. Well, the sportsbooks think they will. That's fair. Ten and a half. But, you know, it's just interesting because they do not have the defense that the other three teams in the division do. And I think, at least with Pittsburgh,
Starting point is 00:54:47 if you can win on defense in Pittsburgh and run the football, you already know the recipe. We should have talked about that a little bit in Pittsburgh and the fact that if you're that good on the defensive side of the ball and Arthur Smith gets to run, can you imagine what Arthur Smith would have done if Atlanta's defense was great? They would never throw the ball. I don't know if they would.
Starting point is 00:55:06 You're the happiest person of all time. Yeah, Russ can hand the ball off. So, I don't know. They're an interesting situation. No Joe Mixon, so they'll have to figure it out with Zach Moss and Chase Brown. So, looking at Zach Moss, it is extremely difficult for me to wrap my head around what is happening here because you have a team that is projected for over 10 wins. They will be a high-powered offense.
Starting point is 00:55:37 They have had pretty good success here fantasy-wise from Joe Mixon, who Joe Mixon to me is just he's fine. He, to me, is not a difference-making running back. There's just so few of those. And yet, despite that, he's had a really, really strong fantasy career. Last year, what was he? I mean, last year he was one of the top finishers. Yeah, he was the running back five.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And so now he is gone. Chase Brown doesn't profile as someone who will see a huge uptick in work. Last year from week 13 on, he was getting nine opportunities a game. I think he will. Chase Brown? He'll get more than nine. He'll get more than nine, but he's...
Starting point is 00:56:23 Zach Moss is brought in to be the main guy, and Zach Moss is a tremendous pass blocker. But I looked at the historic – Was that trependous? No, he caught it. Yeah, he caught it. He caught it. But that word's awesome.
Starting point is 00:56:36 You like trependous? Oh, yeah. Is that like a trapeze-related word? No, it's just like it's triple. Yeah. Is that a player – It's trependous. That's not a – Oh, it's just like it's triple. Yeah. It's tremendous. Oh, it's tripendous? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:48 So looking three times is good. Okay. All the running backs drafted since 2014. Guys who have finished, they have at least one finish in the top 24. So since 2014, at least one top 24 finish. That's 71 players. Now, guys who have done that, the first time they ever finished as a top 24 running back
Starting point is 00:57:13 in season five, of those 71 players, it is three guys. Three guys. Two of them are undrafted players in JD McKissick and Raheem Moster. And the other one was James White, which is like, okay,
Starting point is 00:57:30 that makes sense to me. These guys were drafted later in the NFL. It turns out that they, they kept earning more and more and more. You're talking about this in the context of Chase Brown's odds of. I'm talking about Zach Moss. Gotcha. Zach Moss,
Starting point is 00:57:42 who is the projected starter, but it's year five. He hasn't given us a top 24 finish. And looking at what – He's nothing like those other three guys you named either. Exactly. Profile-wise. I'm saying all of the things mixed together in trying to put together
Starting point is 00:57:58 what is the true profile of Zach Moss, there is so many things that say this should work. If he gets 60-plus percent or whatever of the work for the Bengals, it should work absolutely no problem. And yet, historically, you're talking about this would be an unmanned territory. Yeah, complete outlier. We have not seen it happen. So I am just like, I don't know what to do with Zach Moss.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I think I'm in. I'm pretty sure I'm in, but it's hard to see. See, that's what trapendous is. He's a trap. He's a trap. That is a trapendous. That's interesting, though. I mean, he'd have to be an outlier to deliver in what seems to be laying
Starting point is 00:58:41 in front of him, which is why I've been more bullish on Chase Brown and moved him up in recent weeks. Yeah, the thing about the trap of drafting Zach Moss is that sometimes you got those leaves laid over that eight-foot hole, and you're going to be stuck. This is like you might roll your ankle. There's like a ditch, and they put leaves over it. It's a ninth-round pick.
Starting point is 00:59:01 It's like, oh, dang it. I fell in the trap. Now I'm walking out. Because it's like, whatever, you just cut him and move pick. It's like, oh, dang it. I fell in the trap. Now I'm walking out. Because it's like, whatever, you just cut him and move on. That's fair. You're not having to spend up on Zach Moss. Ninth round. So he is so wild.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I mean, that'd be wild if the starting running back from a 10.5 projected Bengals team is not in the top eight rounds. That's just – that would be wild if come August that's the case. I'd be shocked if that was the case. And Chase Brown is in the 11th round, so he's even more free. If you want to take the shot there, I am taking the shot on Zach Moss because I think transactionally what the team has done, what they're paying for Zach Moss.
Starting point is 00:59:47 You know, they had the opportunity to use Chase Brown last year. They didn't, but they had Mixon. Also, scheme-wise, scheme fit, running from shotgun, Zach Moss fits the Bengals really, really well. So I'm going to bet on the Zach Moss side. My guy. My guy I've always loved. Always. You've loved him since the day he was born.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Man, did I love him in college so fast've loved him since the day he was born and i love him in college so fast yeah you always thought he was speedy um and just a quick jason you mentioned t higgins is being undervalued i agree i am one of those many out there who feels personally victimized by what t higgins has done the last couple of years but if if he were somehow to if he played 16 games out of 17 out of 17 he would i'm saying like i'm not even giving him full i know you have to aim high with just give him 16 games he will he'll end up being a tremendous value all right um well it's july it's july 9th so we should probably just rank our division and talk about who wins it I'm taking the exact same order as last year I think it's Baltimore Cleveland Pittsburgh Cincinnati I am
Starting point is 01:00:52 taking Baltimore to win it but I've got Cincy second Cleveland third and the Pittsburgh Steelers fourth I think that's how I lean to with Jason. Did we mention the Steelers opening schedule? I don't think we mentioned it. It is on the road for an Atlanta revenge game. Yeah, they're 4-0. I looked at it. And then it is a road matchup. It is a revenge game with the Denver Broncos.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Then it's the Chargers, and then it's the Colts. And Chargers at home. Yeah, no, I looked at it. The Steelers starting the season 4-0. I know. That's just. It's like it charges at home. Yeah. No, I looked at it. The Steelers starting the season at four. No, I know. That's just, it's not impossible.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Pretty good odds. It's not impossible. Um, meanwhile, everybody else's opening schedule stinks. All right. Uh, that is going to do it for today's divisional matchup show.
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