Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - AFC North Breakdown + TD Scorers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/6

Episode Date: July 6, 2023

Bengals, Ravens, Steelers, Browns! On today’s fantasy football podcast a 2023 preview for the AFC North division! Which players are the biggest values in fantasy football drafts? Plus, a new edition of Best Ball Breakdown! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for July 6th, 2023. Dive into the 2023 Ultimate Draft Kit + Draft Analyzer! UltimateDraftKit.com Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: Best Ball Breakdown presented by Underdog Fantasy. Visit https://underdogfantasy.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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signed a contract this offseason he has announced that he is in full remission from hodgkin's lymphoma this was a i mean the fact that he had hodgkin's lymphoma. This was a, I mean, the fact that he had Hodgkin's lymphoma was a news, that breaking news story just months ago. And we didn't know if he'd sign with the team, if he'd be back in a year or two. So, I mean, he's a good tight end. He really is. Yeah, he is.

And so along with. Jawan Johnson. Jawan Johnson. And now, you know, another bit of news that tasem hill hopes his role evolves into more receptions we all hope yeah hope for things it's not going to yeah i mean but some i mean some is going some is going to hurt john johnson and foster moreau like that sounds like a tight end room that you're not going to know where the receptions go week to week yeah but coming in i i thought johnawan Johnson was one of those late round tight ends

that I wanted to target. He showed flashes, was great around the goal line. But Foster Monroe is no slouch. You know, he's a really competent tight end that this team went out and signed for a decent chunk of money. So they will share that workload. And unfortunately, that means for fantasy, I think both will be mostly irrelevant.

Don't forget the connection, right? Because Derek Carr, Foster Moreau. Sure. That's obviously one of the reasons they pursued him is the familiarity and 30-plus receptions the last couple of years. Probably not fantasy relevant, but like you said, it's going to hurt the other players.

I guess we have a little bit of – It's hype season. Yeah, it's hype season. But it's not like – No, it's not train worthy. It's not hype train worthy. Kevin O'Connell talking about K.J. Osborne. I bring it up because all the discussion around the Vikings has been either

Dalvin Cook leaving or Jordan Addison arriving or Justin Jefferson just being himself. K.J. Osborne had some very, very big games last year. Head coach saying he's a real standout during offseason practices, also as a leader on the field. You had games where he had 10 for 157 last year, seven for 59 and a touchdown. Three of the last four weeks he was in the top 13

I I wonder if there's some sleeper relevance here for Osborne yeah I I personally doubt it a little bit not that he won't have decent games or is it relevant for like if you're doing an underdog best ball league that's going 18 rounds uh He's been a standout at camp. It's worth noting that Jordan Addison has not been to camp. So everything that's being run right now, K.J. Osborne is the two. He's getting the opportunity to run in that role, so it's good to hear that he's doing well. It's just rare for a year four wide receiver to really beat.

It can happen,ante Parker but it's not common for a player who hasn't really broken out through three years in his career to to take a leap forward in his fourth year I would imagine it's more likely that Jordan Addison their first round rookie pick is the two and KJ Osborne plays the same role he played last year he's just doing well in Addison's absence right now yeah I think it's a big question mark until Addison's on the field and prove something to us undisclosed injury we don't know what Addison's injury is right now and let's not forget Justin Jefferson didn't get playing time at the very beginning of his rookie season and you know who he is so what I'm saying is like maybe the first three or four weeks of the year you've got a player you could play in kj osborne it's it would be unlikely to me that addison comes out week one

with more targets than kj osborne personally but we'll see what camp looks like yep terrence marshall jr i don't know why i bring him up because kyle put it in here i mean i mean do i read the quotes yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Frank Reich. Yeah, let me hear it. Frank Reich saying he's been shown, he shows the capacity to kind of be a big play guy. Yo, that's some glowing.

Thank you, Brooks. Who is this, Brooksy? Panther's 30-year wide receiver, in case you've never heard of Terrace Marshall. If you listen to this show, I mean, he, lockjaw. It's so funny because I brought up Adam Thielen. You guys have no interest. We bring up Jonathan Mingo.

You pretty much have no interest because of the rookie quarterback. And here we are with Terrace Marshall. Year three. Oh, I have negative interest. Yeah, to be fair. I also have no interest in Terrace Marshall, who last year when it looked like there was a path forward for him to be the one. Because they traded DJ Moore.

Exactly. They did that in the offseason. But I traded a second rounder for Terrace Marshall. I was just going to call my shot. Maybe he'll take that step forward. And then this offseason, they're like, Terrace Marshall's our one. We got a draft zone. We got a signage.

Adam Thielen, we can't just stay here. And, yeah, he's going into year three. He's still a baby boy, 23 years old, just turned 23. So he's a very young wide receiver, but it's not going to happen for him. K.J. Osborne and Terrace Marshall Jr. I'll take Terrace Marshall. Not because I think he's better. K.J. Osborne's better, but there's still hope to me that Terrace Marshall can be something special

as opposed to just half more total. What do you think K.J. Osborne did last year? That's a great question. I would guess he had 750 yards and five or six touchdowns. Okay, you actually gave him more than what he had. Okay. 650 and five, had seven touchdowns okay you actually gave him more than what he had okay well 650 and five had seven touchdowns the year before 60 receptions i was i had a lot under 70 receptions for kj osmond under really yeah that's okay you don't like him you know that's okay that's okay

you don't have to like him full disclosure um i think that there is always you know the the personal experience you know we play fantasy we love fantasy football uh it's not just our job and I I had a lot of shares of KJ Osborne last year I saw a path for Adam Thielen stepping away and KJ Osborne in year three to take that step forward I watched him a lot in those games and rooted for it to happen and while he had a few big games it just felt like he didn't have what it takes to to step forward so it might just be my scars of disappointment from last year that is kind of influencing my negativity towards it happens that i mean certainly no guarantee for him to take a step forward i don't know what

that offense is going to look like exactly without – I mean, Adam Thielen's been there so long, and Dalvin Cook's been there so long. And we still don't have an answer on the aged Zeke and Hopkins and Dalvin, and they are waiting to skip training camp. Yeah, they are. They are waiting to take it slow. Any other news, Brooksy? Any other third, fourth, fifth string wide receivers you want to talk about

we can talk about Romeo Dobbs if you want there's some hype around him taking the next step it keeps happening man like this is

offseason for Romeo Dobbs right last offseason too well he's he's been in the league for one year yeah well I just mean like this is the time of year

that he has predominantly been talked about he had some really good games last year as far as how he started he started pretty strong yeah I mean four for 37 and two for 27 is strong eight for 73 after that five for 47 touchdown both weeks that was his best game so I mean he was a rookie but um he is getting the hype right now he He's being rumored that he's established the number one target connection.

I, previous to that, had him as the target leader here. I still don't think he's the best fantasy asset. Christian Watson is far more explosive. But I think Dobbs is a decent player. The question is just, can the quarterback support him? On another piece of news, with a quarterback that can support someone have you guys seen the sky more hype oh no uh now he's getting a little bit of love from andy reed who is coming out saying that he was very good he might be the he might have been the

target leader uh through what they've done so far and so he could see him taking a big step forward but again this is just hype fluff fluff, peace from your head coach. I mean, what do you want him to say? No, it's good, but it's part of the narrative of the offseason. It's hearing it now. You just, okay, I'm going to tune my ear in. Do I hear more in a couple weeks about Sky Moore or Romeo Dobbs? It's the steady drumbeat of the offseason.

And if it keeps going, then that reaches a volume that you should not ignore and that these players are worth your time, worth a late-round draft pick. Yeah, I think that's cool to hear. Skymore is a player that has tons of potential and just didn't have tons of opportunity last year and then didn't do a lot with the opportunity he had. Well, he fumbled a bunch.

I do like him more than the first-year Rice situation. I agree. Not high. This doesn't change you? No, no. No, I don't think. Did we already bet on this? I think we might have already bet on this.

If we didn't, we have in our hearts. Yes, I don't think. Did we already bet on this? I think we might have already bet on this. If we didn't, we have in our hearts. Yes, I suppose we have. All right, moving on. Let's get divisional. Well, Mike said it. Here we go. The divisional breakdown shows. We're ready for an NFL season.

We go through every division. It's kind of a general overview of the teams. We look at offseason changes from 2022 to this year, 2023. Maybe we discuss the ways that the offense could function. And eventually we will weigh in on who we think will take this division down. Last year, the Bengals won the division at 12-4. 12-4 because they didn't play. They had one fewer game than everybody else.

Baltimore, 10-7. Pittsburgh, 9-8. The Browns at 7-10. Fun fact of the division, all four teams went 3-3 in the division last year. So when playing one another, they all have the same record. Interesting. And they are the only division this upcoming year where all four teams are projected for over 8.5 wins.

It makes sense. This is probably the best division in the NFL. I think there's like three divisions you could argue for. But to me, if Baltimore can step up, and we'll get to the Browns here in a minute, then it's just four really, really well-run teams. It's why, and I'm sure Tomlin will spend the year proving me wrong, but it's why I'm really not enthusiastic about the Steelers taking a big

step forward is because they have a monumental quarterback gap compared to the other three teams in the division Lamar Burrow Watson proven established elite quarterback play a step up for Kenny Pickett even to the point where we're like, yeah, not so bad. Would still be so far below it that. But Tomlin proves us wrong every year, so we'll see what happens. I'm curious where you guys will have the division in terms of top to bottom. We might all have the same winner. I don't know.

But let's start with Cincinnati. Last year had a preseason win total of 10. This year it is 11 and a half. Ended the year on an eight-game winning streak. It was another great year. And they have such consistency on that offense. You know what to expect when you talk about fantasy football and projecting things.

I really like when I have to talk about Joe Burrow and T. Higgins and Jamar Chase and the expectations there. They added Irv Smith at tight end. They lost Hayden Hurst at tight end. They lost Samaj P. Ryan. And so a couple of the question marks on this team are going to be, could you find fantasy value at the tight end position this year? It was intermittent two years ago with C.J. Uzama.

It was intermittent last year with Hayden Hurst. I imagine that's where we're headed with Irv Smith. Yeah, I'd agree. I'm not, you know, I won't go crazy with it. You know, let Irv swerve when the, we'll see if that gets going there on Twitter again this year, but it will, there's just, I don't know that there's enough to go around

because you have such a high concentration of the targets to Higgins and Chase. Last year we're talking they vacated 86 targets to the tight end position for the possibility of Irv Smith. And Tyler Boyd is still there there and then the running backs I mean I think they're just they can they're they play cleanup duty at for the tight end position over there so should you find yourself in a like a really juicy matchup then you can be willing to to go in but it's it's hard to see a world where Irv Smith is like a weekly plug and play type of a of a sleeper at the tight end position. No, I would agree with you.

I don't think he's going to be a locked and loaded guy. Anyone outside of the top three or four tight ends aren't really locked and loaded where you just ignore the position. But I do think that there will be weeks. I mean, Andy, you just mentioned C.J. Uzama. He won people a lot of money on the right weeks when you play the DFS lineup and you get that double touchdown game. You want a quarterback like Joe Burrow, someone that, you know, 34 touchdowns two years ago, 35 touchdowns this last year. And the narrative

that we were talking about with Joe Burrow last year was, will they allow him to truly take the team over? And it feels almost silly now to remember those questions because they did. He went from 400 passing attempts his rookie year to 520 to 606 passing attempts this last year. It's his team. This is a pass-first team. And with their weapons, they're going to be outstanding. I know we have kind of grouped him together with Justin Herbert a little bit

for fantasy purposes, those mostly pocket quarterbacks that are going to throw 5,000 yards and can throw 40 touchdowns, but also you have to throw 35 plus touchdowns to really pay off on the fantasy value. You know, he's done it the last two years yeah I mean it reminds me of Stafford in Detroit with Calvin Johnson when you have kind of a top five wide receiver physical force touchdown maker in Jamar Chase and then a very good wide receiver in T Higgins it assures a pretty good baseline I mean we trusted before, obviously, the age caught up to him. But we trusted Tom Brady in Tampa, pocket passer, elite weapons in Godwin and Evans. Feels similar to me.

Zach Taylor's fifth year, he's gone from two wins to four wins to 10 wins to 12 wins. Ooh, 14 wins in code. Could have easily been fired after a two or four win season. They stuck with him. And like you said, he got out of the way. He let Joe Burrow take this team over. Second in pass rate over expectation. Second in expected points per play.

Burrow last year, he was great. Second in passing touchdowns. Fourth in fancy points per game. Fifth in passing yards. Is the third round too rich for him in terms of fantasy decision-making? Yep. Have you drafted him anywhere? I don't think so.

I don't think I have. I mean, I'd love to have Joe Burrow on my team, but the investment of a third-rounder, that's too much for me. How are you guys handling the backup running situation or running back situation it's my gp ryan gone we don't know exactly who it will be they did take chase brown in the fifth round i believe this year and travion williams just keeps keeps get nfl career going he has done very very very little little in his career.

We're heading into year five here, and he has seen 57 opportunities in his career, but he is back yet again, and there's room on the Bengals for the backup running back to do something. For sure. I mean, you saw Samajay Pirine be very relevant last year, and Samajay is gone. So someone here matters.

And they've talked up Travion Williams quite a bit, but I am personally ignoring that. They've had all the opportunity in the world to allow him to do something. They had games where Joe Mixon missed last year, and Travion was on the roster and healthy and active. He had six total carries. I don't think they really actually like him. I would put my money more on the incoming rookie.

That's assuming that Joe Mixon is in tow. And that's why I don't agree with the contention that someone's going to matter. I don't think somebody has to matter here out of that group because Samaj A.P. Ryan's influence was trust. I mean, third down, high-value situations. I don't know what their trust level is with a rookie on third down, and I certainly have seen Travion Williams for a couple years. This is a prime destination for a late training camp preseason uh sure trustworthy

bat to come in and right now you know there was some news over the past weekend both sides mixing in the bangles won a resolution to his situation soon all signs point to him being coming back at this point and being the running back they've made no effort to secure somebody else for that situation so if you took a shot on him in best ball this offseason I think your odds of it hitting is going to be very high and look if he can catch the football there's nothing wrong with Joe Mixon catching the football so if they don't trust those other two guys to pass block the way I mean P Ryan has always scored very high in that in that area so I was a little surprised they didn't bring them back but I think it's possible Joe Mixon just like Nick Chubb this year where they had tremendous trust in uh Kareem Hunt Hunt's gone

and you don't know who the next guy is and whether you trust him on third down so Chubb might get more targets and I think Mixon could surprise yeah i mean what you want for fantasy is you want depth charts that look like this you want a dude and then just complete unknowns that have done nothing in the nfl and have no draft capital or investment there uh that that's uh two of the teams in this division so yeah you know there it's still a volatile pick to look at mixing right now because you know the quote is they want a resolution soon well the other side of that is that means it's unresolved currently so it's still a little bit of risk but this isn't like an injury risk where you know a player is incapable in this moment and you're buying a dip this is a situation

where you're you're taking a an educated gamble that the resolution will come I believe it will and then it it should play off because he's just his opportunity for scoring on this offense with this depth chart is outstanding yeah there are a lot of backup running back situations that don't play out like Samajip and they play out like you know Arizona last year where it's James Conner, and then it's just, okay, here, Corey Clement gets some carries. Keontae Ingram gets some carries. Oh, you know, Benjamin, we're going to give you 70 and then cut you,

and then it's just kind of a mess. If Travion didn't have so much time in the league, I guess it'd be easier to get behind it. Jamar Chase and T.E. Higgins? Yes. That's just your analysis? Yeah, I don't think we need to dive too deep into that. Tyler Boyd, contract year. Charlie Jones added to the roster. I think Tyler Boyd is exactly

the same category as you would have with Irv Smith, which is the matchups, right? An injury to the, the players ahead of him. And maybe you roll them in there and hope you get one of those deep throws. Sure.

Is that fair? Yeah. Um, and their first four matchups, Cleveland, Baltimore. So two divisional matchups to start the year, including on the road in Cleveland.

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Insurance designed for life. Let's talk about Baltimore. This team had so much unknown to begin the offseason. Last year, their preseason win total was 9.5. They went 10-7. And they finished the year with Tyler Huntley and Anthony Brown starting games at quarterback. That has been kind of how they choose to end the year the last couple of years.

We're talking about Tyler Huntley, a pro bowler, too much at the end of these years. This year, the win total is the same, 9.5. But when we began this offseason, we didn't know if lamar would be back we also didn't have really any wide receiver core to speak of and um you know most of our discussion was what are they going to do and is jk two-leg dobbins going to be important lamarar's back. Five-year, 190 guaranteed. Mike, you have him the highest in our rankings right now at three. He's ranked at five when you look at our consensus rankings. He's being drafted at five. I don't have any problem taking the shot at him at three.

I do think it is very risky with the last couple of years. And even though the wide receiver room looks better with names, I'm not sure exactly what they have right now because, you know, I know we've talked about, hey, we're kind of excited about Zay Flowers, but that's a rookie. Yeah. Rashad Bateman has had many flashes but many M-A-N-Y injuries. And then you have Odell Beckham with the big contract. And then there's been video.

I don't know if you've seen that of Beckham and looking like vintage Beckham in camp. He's got some good Allen Robinson video. Actually, it was the wide receiver coach watching him do a couple one-handed catches and then saying, oh i like that i like that and then all the other receivers saying no you don't you always tell us not to do that yeah well i was gonna be shocked and then he goes but him for him i do yeah say the coaches i mean

uh i mean they cannot like that at all i was like i guess look if you ever hear that story with peyton manning no if one of his wide receivers caught a one-handed catch, he had him benched. That's funny. But unless it's Odell Beckham Jr. Unless it's Odell Beckham, who earned, I guess, he earned like 10 years with one catch. But it's like, look, sometimes your only attempt at a ball is a one-handed catch, but you got two hands. Use them both.

I'm very excited for this team. With the switch of the offensive coordinator, we have Todd Monken, who's coming in. He's been in college the last couple years. Georgia, you may have heard them having some success lately. A couple of championships. But we're going to have a pass-heavy approach. So here's what has happened. Todd Monken, in his time in the NFL has been very pass heavy very uh high on the

pass over expectation so like like if it's a neutral situation Todd Monken likes to pass you know he likes to air it out that's what we the information we had coming into it now we already have confirmation from the small amounts of practicing that the Ravens have been doing from Lamar saying, oh yeah, we're going to be throwing the ball a whole lot more than we were with Greg Roman as our offensive coordinator. That's huge because

we want more points coming through the air for Lamar Jackson. On top of that, Todd Monken's offense is going to move faster. You had the snail pace of Greg Roman where we're not throwing enough, and on top of that, we're intentionally trying to slow the game down. Let's get more plays in there, more passing attempts. We'll turn into – that won't take away rushing attempts from Lamar Jackson.

You're going to have Lamar still do his things of the first read, second read's not there. I'm going to go. Lamar Jackson is still part of who he is as a quarterback. I think he's going to run a ton. I like his wide receivers. We're at the point, yes. We don't know who it's going to be.

We aren't sure that these guys aren't fully proven in the NFL, but we've seen enough from, I've seen, I should say, enough from Rashad Bateman to know this guy can play, he can make some things happen. Odell Beckham, I'm less bullish on. I think that that time has come and gone. But with Rashad Bateman, Mark Andrews,

and then Zay Flowers getting some time to acclimate and be a super stud, route-running wide receiver, I am very, very excited for all fantasy possibilities for not just Lamar Jackson but the Ravens as a team. The possibilities word is important, and I think I'm the least excited of the three of us. I see the path. There's no doubt.

I mean, he had a 36-touchdown year in 2019. However, the performance on the field hasn't been. I mean, he had a 36 touchdown year in 2019. However, the performance on the field hasn't been – I mean, you can blame an offensive coordinator all you want. He's still made mistakes. He's fumbled the football. 16 touchdowns, 17 touchdowns. He's a D in our consistency. 35% of his games are in a place where fantasy players are excited about him

in his last 17. Sure. So there's a lot of things that you can about him in his last 17. Sure. So there's a lot of things that you can blame, but this is not one year. This is three years where people have been disappointed. They've been disappointed in the pick three consecutive years in Lamar Jackson. So I can see the path, but I don't want that to be ignored. Like, I feel like we have been wanting good for Lamar in personnel and coaching for so long that we're imbuing only a good scenario.

And I guess I'm saying, like, what's the – I mean, how do we get the same that we've gotten from this team? Because he's been 10, 15, and 14 the last three years. Well, he's missed games. And obviously, if he misses games, he's not going to be a top 12 quarterback. And that's a huge risk, a massive risk for him a on a that's a huge risk a massive risk for him sure I mean it's a massive risk for a lot of mobile quarterbacks but the mobile quarterbacks are the ones we're taking the the risk on you want a guy who can finish as the number one quarterback

and Lamar Jackson absolutely can't on a per touch basis he scores a ton of fantasy points he doesn't touch the ball enough because they run so slow Mike Mike brought it up, but it's worth repeating. The pace of play to me is the most important thing on offense. 28th in pace of play last year. Exactly. I mean, this has been a team that has run one of the slowest, sluggish offenses. And when you listen to the players talk, yeah, I know some of the quotes were, oh, we're going to throw more, run less.

But most of the quotes, if you really are listening, they're all about playing faster, about pace of play, about speed, speeding the game up. That's what I am so excited about. And yeah, we don't know if Bateman is great. We don't know if Odell Beckham still got it. We don't know if Zay Flowers is going to be good enough to be worthy of that first round pick. But what we do know is that those options are way better than what he has dealt with recently, especially last year. When he had Mark Andrews and Hollywood Brown, he was the number one quarterback in fantasy. We know he doesn't need a ton. He's got Mark Andrews. So now this trifecta of options at wide receiver,

like I am fully in on Lamar Jackson. I completely understand what Andy's saying, that there's risk with injury and that he's disappointed for a couple years in a row. But when I'm trying to play fantasy, he's going to play this entire season age 26. He is a young prime athlete who can run the ball, is going to play faster. And I think he'll turn the ball over a little bit more in this new offense but we've seen that before with this coordinator where it works out pretty well for fantasy maybe not as well for winning football games but uh I'm completely in on I'm not spending a third round pick on Lamar I'm not doing that yeah I mean would you do would

you take any quarterback in the third? Who's going there, I should say? Are you willing to take Burrow in the third? I think that I'd take... Burrow's going like a 3-11. If you had asked me that on Burrow, I would have said if he slips into the fourth, I'm thinking about Joe Burrow.

The target is like Herbert later. Yeah, I'm not saying in the third. It's interesting. I'm not saying the third. I'm looking at teams that ran the most plays last year, and it's not like a laundry list of fantasy quarterback champions in terms of total plays. I mean, you have to have both efficiency and pace of play. You need both, but that's where I'm excited

because Lamar Jackson is efficient on his fantasy value. But, you know, just because you play fast doesn't mean you're a good team. Yeah, I mean, the Chargers, they were number two. Tampa was number one. We struggled with both of those quarterbacks. Arizona was number three. Obviously, Kyler eventually went out. Washington was four in total plays per game.

Washington didn't have a big performance. So you're right. It has to be efficiency. But I guess the area of excitement with Baltimore that confuses me is that everybody's going to be efficiency. But I guess the area of excitement with Baltimore that confuses me is that everybody's going to be great. Mark Andrews is going to be great. Dobbins is supposed to be great. Lamar's supposed to be great.

Bateman's supposed to be great. Zay's supposed to be great. That's not going to happen. No, it's not. And not in this division. This division is brutal. We just talked about that. That's where, to me, I'm in on Lamar Jackson

because I don't know if it's Zay Flowers. I don't know if it's Bateman, if he's healthy. I don't know if it's Bateman if he's healthy I don't know if Odo Beckham still got it they sure are paying him like he's still got it I'm not sure but I know that they all their fantasy points goes back to Lamar Jackson if any one of them is great and Mark Andrews is good so I'm in on the Ravens in general but that doesn't mean I'm in on every single player. To me, it's Mark Andrews and Lamar Jackson are the two that I want pieces of. Do you think there is a chance at all that

it's not Bateman, it's not Flowers, it's not Beckham, it's Isaiah Likely? Yeah, I mean, I love Isaiah Likely. It's my case against Mark Andrews being guaranteed elite. It's because he's a talented player that will demand some targets. Because he's coming into his second year.

Isaiah Likely, he's the other tight end in Baltimore. The other guy. He's just a very athletic player. Yeah, he had a few games. You had week eight, six for 77 with a score. You had the final week. It was the Andrews missing games. Yeah, the final week it was the Andrews missing yeah yeah the

final week of the season but that's the point of if if in your first year as a rookie when you are thrust into being the main guy for that team and you then you come through it's he he is he's interesting to me and I'm I'm curious if we'll be talking about him like in the middle of the season we have not talked about Nelson Aguilar but but he has been talked about by the coaching staff as well. So to Jason's point about liking Lamar, distribution of targets may be more difficult to predict. You're just trusting Lamar to put up numbers with whomever he's given. Last year it was like Demarcus Robinson was the player you were starting

because that was the last man up. They get to open against the Houston Texans. They do at home. Part of fantasy if you want to play just the mind game of – He will not have a bad game in week one. He will not. That was my point of sometimes it's tough when you have these guys. You love them long term, but you know that drafting them.

Oh, my gosh. Look at these first two games. I'm going to have to suffer through this. I'm going to have to deal with the mental attack of going through those two weeks of, wait, did I screw this up? Was this a bad pick? Because the schedule was so tough to start. I believe last year Lamar had a monster week one. He started.

He was the number one starter back, I think, week one and week two. He started on fire. I guess I am fatigued because after an MVP year, you can always look at the next season and say he's going to be an MVP again. It's just been a long, long time since we've been happy with it. It has been. I think it'll come through. But it's worth at least bringing up,

because we're talking about the Houston Texans schedule. Last year, the Houston Texans were one of the absolute worst teams to play a quarterback against because they were so bad and running backs had such an easy time. And by halftime, you were up multiple scores. I remember eventually learning the lesson of, yeah, the Texans suck, but you cannot play a quarterback against them. I remember it was Trevor Lawrence at the end of the year had just a great match. Four points or something like that.

And not because he played bad, because they didn't need him. They played a half. All three wide receivers that we talked about, and I'm going to make it brief, Bateman, Flowers, Beckham, we're just going to call them exactly tied in ADP, because they basically are. Lock one into your lineup today.

I think I still lean Rashad Bateman. I don't like the fact that he's coming off the Liz Frank injury. We talked Rashad Bateman on the Dynasty podcast, and Matthew Betts, our injury guy, was on there saying, expect a slower start to the season for Rashad Bateman, especially with the news that he had the cortisol shot into the foot. Betts was saying that is not normal for the recovery of the Liz Frank, so that is something to pay attention to. But I did like that Lamar Jackson was quite vocal of saying,

Rashad Bateman is my number one wide receiver. I'll take the last one drafted. That would be Odell Beckham right now by ADP. Yeah, whatever happens in my draft, I will take the last shot. It's ironic. I will take Zay Flowers.

In truth, I'll take none of them. I don't want one of these wide receivers. I don't believe one of them will have a phenomenal year. J.K. Dobbins, right now, he's going to be the guy. We're talking about this team completely transforming their offensive philosophy. You have a quarterback that can score around the goal line. You have J.K. Dobbins that doesn't catch passes. I have him much lower than both of you guys yeah I think

you are trusting the offense to just provide opportunities throughout the year it's not necessarily going to be predictable but he'll have a big run he'll have a big play he'll have a big touchdown I don't I don't love drafting guys that can be touchdown vultured and don't catch the the ball so I get it if you want to be out on J.K. Dobbins. Why I've got him ranked higher is because I believe the offense is going to be good. They've got an awesome offensive line. And what we've seen from Dobbins has been great every time he's been on the field and now two years recovered from that injury. I think we're going to see the best version of him.

But I don't mind passing on him for other guys if you want a pass catcher. Yeah, it's offense talent. And you love Mark Andrews. I do love Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews I'm in on. Like Mark Andrews. And J.K. Dobbins. No, I don't love J.K. Dobbins.

I thought you just said I love J.K. Dobbins. That wasn't the quote? I don't know. I don't listen most of the time. Yeah, no, I don't blame you, but I don't believe I used those words. Maybe you don't like the wideouts. I don't like the wideouts. Steelers are 9-8.

Preseason win total last year, 7.5. This year is 8.5. I still think it's going to be a rough road for this team. But, I mean, look, if you need to fix a problem, bring in a guy like Allen Robinson to your roster. Subtraction by addition. That is the big offseason addition addition including a third round tight end kenny pickett is the quarterback went six and two in his eight starts his final eight starts

posted a 1.8 touchdown rate nice um was clutch at leading them to field goals over those last eight games so um you know the average for a sophomore, first-round quarterback is 4.6. So he should go up because what he did was defying all logic. I can tell you, and it's going to kill Steelers fans because I've talked to them. They truly believe that Kenny Pickett is going to be the future. I'm not willing to say that right now. I think you're going to need a lot

more from Kenny Pickett to remotely compete in this division. Can he beat Joe Burrow in a shootout? No. Can he beat Lamar Jackson? No, not in an offensive shootout. In a game where you need a big score, that was his biggest weakness last year. This team won on the defensive side of the football. They were 26th in points per game, 23rd in yards, 32nd in passing touchdowns like we're talking about, 24th in passing yards. I mean, you take eight and a half wins.

How many are they winning? That's their line. I think they win more because Tomlin will find a way to win more than he loses, which would require nine victories. Is that your go nine? Yeah, exactly. I mean, sure, nine's fine, but you just talked about all the confidence you have in Lamar with the system, finding the weapons.

I don't have that here, so I'm trusting the players that I know have produced in the past. I'm not really excited about George Pickens because the volume of opportunities is worrisome to me, and they did bring in Allen Robinson. Remember, Allen Robinson gets targeted a lot. He may not catch it, but he's going to demand time on the field. And I love Pat Fryermuth. So from a target perspective, Deontay Fryermuth and Allen Robinson, I think we'll have more targets than George Pickens. Do you guys, do you have a different view where you see Pickens as a sleeper?

I don't see Pickens as a sleeper. He obviously had amazing highlight reel performances as a rookie, but when you look at the pecking order and the target volume, I do believe that he is down a little lower. I'd have him above Allen Robinson. Even still, there's not enough volume for me to really want to go in on him. The way that I view this offense is a middle-of-the-pack offense, and the way that they were last year was a bottom-of-the-pack offense. So that still provides value. This isn't a team like the Bengals where you're saying, this guy can be top five and this guy can be top five

and just absolutely putting up 5,000 yards and 40 touchdowns from the quarterback. That's not going to happen here, but you're not drafting them like that. You've got, I think, nerfed draft capital in the Steelers because of Deontay Johnson's bad year. You're drafting him basically at his floor because of Najee's bad year, Jalen Warren's showing people aren't wanting him. I've grabbed Najee a lot in the fourth round where I think that's an excellent value for a guy that I believe is going to be much improved with an offensive line that made massive improvements. Huge contracts in the offseason, first round draft capital, and they had the sixth offensive lineman in their rookie tight end, Darnell Washington, who's going to be added to the line. I think there's a well-run team that's going to do enough,

and they're going to score fantasy points, and they don't cost a lot. So I see them as small wins. San Francisco to start the year for Pittsburgh. Then they're Cleveland. They're both home games, luckily. And then Raiders in Houston after that. But week one will be um the ultimate test for kenny pickett possible so trade for naji after week one got it potentially um yeah naji

we've talked about him and jaylen warren in the past naji is a volume play that's what he's been thus far year one it was a tremendous amount of receptions uh that really made that launched him into i think top five finish right wasn't he five or six yeah he was way up there efficiency on the ground hasn't been there jason likes the offensive line he was number four and number 14 last year good into this season um seemed healthier still nervous about a team that that was 26 and points per game me personally like that's just not part of my draft recipe um so if i have an opportunity to take a running back at a similar range that i think has a higher offensive potential they were still 11th and rushing touchdowns like it's uh yeah i mean

it's balanced out by the 30 seconds in passing touchdowns. Well, that's what I was going to say. You can't have the efficiency of can he pick and improve unless the entire team gets much better in total touchdowns and still have Najee score that much. But he's going to get the ball around the goal line. Who's going in his range? I'd be curious about whether I'm telling the truth about who I'd take.

I will pull that up for you. Right now he's 306 in drafts is what I'm seeing. Yeah, so right around Najee, you've got Travis Etienne, Kenneth Walker, and Jameer Gibbs going right behind him. Yeah, I mean, two of those three I'll definitely take over Najee, Etienne, and Gibbs. The other one was Kenneth Walker probably I lean Najee over all of those guys personally but you can make easy arguments both

ways that is man I think I think of those four guys I'll still take Najee does it I won't argue with the Jalen Warren looks great when he's on a football field but Mike Tomlin just for the entirety of his career there's there is something about having a a big durable back that you can have on the field for the majority of snaps there's something about that that Mike Tomlin likes for his offense. The Browns. They went 7-10 last year. That was their preseason win total was seven wins. This year it's 9-1⁄2, which puts them a game over the Steelers.

I'll take the under. No, I'm in. I'm in on this offense. I think Deshaun Watson is a proven commodity at quarterback, multiple years of success. You have an outstanding, maybe the best running back in football. You have a probably underrated wide receiver room right now, although there has been some talk about frustration that they didn't bring in Hopkins.

We didn't really talk about Cleveland as a destination, but that would have really, I think that would change the way we look at this receiver room in general because right now it's amari cooper uh the potential of elijah moore donovan peoples jones uh david the joku is somebody that i think we all believe in the athleticism and the potential of this year so a sleeper tight end is in the works there um this is year four for kevin stefanski he has done the opposite 11 wins eight wins seven wins but no i i may stand alone but i oh no mike and i both have deshaun watson at qb9 right now but i think he has tremendous upside

tremendous well he certainly does i i would not argue with anyone that he doesn't have the upside. When you look at a guy who started his career sophomore year was the quarterback five, then the quarterback five, then the quarterback five, obviously we know his potential. It's to be the quarterback five. But that's three years ago now. What we saw last year was a rusty version of him. No off-season program,

no practices, just thrown right into it. So I don't blame him for looking bad, but he, it has to be said, he looked bad, like individual throws, just not at a professional quarterback level. This is a team that, you know, they were hot. They were playing well. They were winning games. And then Watson came in and, you know, it just didn't go that well. Obviously, they're invested in him. If he gets it back with this offseason program, you know, a full year under his belt with this franchise, his upside is there. It's just a matter of do you believe it's going to happen?

That has to be pure speculation and projection i i am on the side where i don't believe he's going to be an elite quarterback this season you two believe he'll get back to his old ways yeah i mean it's just such a small sign is not his old ways yes a small sample last year too like you said i mean the last two year the last two games was eight and six managed to piece those together played Houston you just talked about them the worst matchup for quarterbacks in week one played in Cincinnati

played against Baltimore played against New Orleans defense I think he I think he's being undervalued but QB nine is not QB five like Mike was saying I think that they need to let him throw the football, and we may be very happy with him being able to.

A lot of his value was elusiveness, and so can he get back to doing that? What will that mean, Mike, for the wide receivers? I mean, Amari Cooper came through last year. He had a big year. I mean, wasn't nearly as good. I mean, wasn't nearly as good. I mean, nothing was nearly as good as soon as Deshaun Watson was on the field for the Cleveland Browns.

But you have a lot more time now to get it going. Amari Cooper, I think he's a perfectly acceptable pick at his ADP, wide receiver 18 in about the middle of the fourth right now. That seems fine. You know, fourth and receiving touchdowns. That's amazing. I was going to say, if Deshaun Watson isn't a complete disaster, that seems like the absolute floor for Amari Cooper.

Wide receiver 18. That's the question of, like, Watson was so good because I think he had just his perfect situation. I mean, he was younger, you know, at the peak of his athleticism, and he had Hopkins and Will Fuller. Will Fuller sometimes. Will Fuller. But, I mean, like, Will Fuller never became –

he didn't reach his potential, but when Will Fuller was on the field, he was usually the fastest guy there, and he could do certain things. So I think that offense was just – was perfectly set up for what Watson could do. Do they have that true field stretcher? Because let's say Amari Cooper plays more of a Hopkins role, and I don't know that you – I don't know that you have that guy that can really take the top off for the Cleveland Browns. Where's the DPJ?

It would be Peoples Jones. You used to love him. Oh, yeah, and then Deshaun Watson ruined everything. But Peoples Jones would be the guy if anyone could do it for them. I think I'm in the middle of you guys where Jason seems pretty out on the Browns bounce back. You're in. I guess I'm in the middle.

And for my draft pieces, that means I'm not forcing any of these guys onto my team. I'll put it that way. Nick Chubb was the number one quarterback running back the first half of last year. This is the biggest question. Nick Chubb's a lock. This is the biggest question.

Because this is the hype train that is starting to take off here. Nick Chubb, more passing work. Because if Nick Chubb actually got passing work, he would be a top three running back at the end of the year it will happen not not the top three but he will get more passing work that's that's a guarantee what what is more passing work more passing work means that he's going to be 45 plus targets and I think it could I think it could go north of there I think he could have he almost had 45 targets last year so that's not really a massive increase if you look at the depth chart here there just isn't you know it's kind of like we were talking about with Mixon they let

Kareem Hunt go they have not replaced him there's Jerome Ford there there's there's no draft capital no money equity no talent or things that we've seen on the field yet and then there's a superstar uh nick chubb they're paying him a lot of money and i think they'll they'll he'll be on the field more they've talked about him getting more involved and and i just think it's a necessity so if he's almost there last year maybe it's maybe it's something like 55. Maybe he's up there. What was his total receptions last year? Total receptions. In the 20s, I'm guessing.

I lost. Hold on. 27. 27? Yeah, 27. So 37 targets. Can he get to 40? Can you catch 40 on 58 targets or something like that?

I think that that is in the range of outcomes. And we've kind of seen this with Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry, over the last couple years, he's not a pass catcher, and he's not just going out there getting 100 targets, but more and more and more design plays getting him in space. And guess what? It works. Yeah, good players, they give him the ball, and then they do good stuff.

Who wins the division? Give me your winner. I've got the Bengals. It's going to be the Bengals. Okay. We're all agreed then. Yeah, but if winner. I've got the Bengals. It's going to be the Bengals. Okay. We're all agreed then. Yeah, but if you – Let's order the final three.

I go Bengals, Ravens, Steelers, Browns. I'll go Bengals, Browns, Ravens, Steelers. Bengals, Ravens, Steelers, Browns. I'm in with Jason. All right. All right. Best Ball Breakdown, presented by Underdog Fantasy. All right.

Back into it. Best Ball Breakdown for this week. There's a new segment every week leading up into the season looking at positive touchdown regression candidates this week. This is a topic that comes up frequently in fantasy. It's very relevant for best ball draft position and the opportunity to take a player that you look at as a touchdown regression candidate, positive regression candidate. And we're going to identify some names. I see you went real bold.

Well, it tied in with the divisional breakdown, Mike. Yeah, no, it's worth – I think it's a worthy mention because it's going to happen. Deontay Johnson's 147 targets and zero touchdowns. He needs one. Is that what you're talking about're talking about well no that wouldn't be um okay that wouldn't be a success by this metric it would technically be positive regression but not but also no it wouldn't really because because you'd be looking at his career average and you'd want him to positively regress to the mean not not to one.

That's a problem. One would be a huge problem. But what I believe about him, and we didn't talk about him as much in the Steelers section of the show, what I like about him is he's the best player. He's the best player in that room by a wide margin, and he has been for a while. And so when that player demands targets, he makes it easy on his quarterback,

and then you're just going to end up with that season where they're in the end zone just like he's always been last year was just really just a an anomalous year for the for the quarterback and so in best ball you know it's a format that lives and dies with touchdowns you can swing for the fences on some of these guys to bounce back to where you want them to be. So my candidate was Deontay. Who do you have, Jason? Yeah, you're going to love who I have. You've talked him up a lot this offseason,

and I find myself coming around on his, basically on his touchdowns. That's what's really, you know, the more research that I'm doing, the more that I see DK Metcalf should be at nine touchdowns, 10 touchdowns. He should be north of that. You look at his last two seasons and yes, it was with Russell Wilson, but he had 10 touchdowns. He had 12 touchdowns. And then this last year, only six. And you go, oh, well, that's Gino. Gino was great.

Gino threw 30. Gino threw the fourth most touchdowns in the NFL. And if you look at the opportunities, I mean, he led the NFL in end zone targets. 24 end zone targets for DK Metcalf. For some reason, just didn't reel those in. And that's not normal. That's not going to continue to happen forever. The next closest in the league was only at 18. And yet somehow DK Metcalf only scored six touchdowns. This isn't Julio where he just never got it done.

This is a guy that's had 12. He's had 10. Exactly. And if you want to know the best way to project positive regression, it's those really valuable opportunities that are sticky. And if you want to know how sticky they are, Andrew Cooper had a great tweet on Twitter. Here's the players that have seen 14-plus end zone targets the last two years in a row. Justin Jefferson, Stephon Diggs, Jamar Chase, and DK Metcalf.

Here's the players that have done it three years in a row. DK Metcalf. Here's the players that have done it four years in a row. DK Metcalf. He going to get his. Yeah, because he's a monster. Yes. He's humongous. And if I was a quarterback and I saw him running up against these tiny little men I would throw it at him

absolutely so he normally works out you know he's gonna get his opportunities around the goal line and he's gonna come down with him so I actually bumped him up did you in the UDK for his touchdown number and um yeah right now we have a wide you You know, it's tough to bet on the... With your rankings, it's tough to bet on that touchdown category. When that's the predominant category that the player makes his contribution in, those are tough bets.

Like, I did it with Mike Williams before, and it didn't work out, even though Mike Williams was very involved because those touchdowns are hard to project and predict. So, you know, I've got Metcalf up at 10, but obviously I'm betting on him returning to this level. Mike's got him at 28, which, look, is where he's going to be if he can't get into the end zone.

So I do want to say this before Mike shares the name. I have a feeling we're going to hear from the positive regression crew on Twitter because that language has already been brought up so many times. I'm just warning you guys. No, it does not bother me. And if for that crew, the reason we use that verbiage, because the correct verbiage is simply to say regress. But when you are having conversation and you say the word regress, it has a negative connotation in our everyday life. When something regresses, it is bad. It technically means either direction, but so I think there is nothing wrong with just specifying positive regression.

Deal with it. Yeah, it's a normal math term, but people hear it and they get angry. Yeah, no, get out of here. Mike, give me your name. The round mound of touchdown, baby. We're going with Ramondre Stevenson. I am all in with Ramondre Stevenson. I am all in on Ramondre.

He had 12 carries inside the five. That only turned into two touchdowns. I watched him, Mike. Yeah. And I watched him fumble like three times in a row, and I wanted to die. Hey. Because he was giving him those opportunities, like you said. I think the opportunities will still be there. And he underperformed in terms of yards to touchdowns, rushing yards to touchdowns,

and he slightly underperformed in receiving yards. He should have had another receiving touchdown with how many receptions and receiving yards he put up. And he was fantastic last year. And you just convert a couple more of those carries inside the goal line into a few touchdowns, and you're talking about a true difference maker at the running back position. Mike, I'm very terrified at that proposition.

Because you traded him? Because I traded him, and I traded him for a player that performed in the other direction, Josh Jacobs. Look, if I was betting money, I'm betting on Josh Jacobs well ahead of Ramondre this year. Which is understandable. But I do see the path to them being much tighter in fantasy finish at the end of the year,

and this is just another bullet point to that effect, the fact that he only got in the ends on two times on 12 attempts inside the five, which is kind of insane. Yeah. It happens because it happened to ETN, 23 carries inside the five, only four touchdowns. Mixon, legendary performance of 28 carries inside the five, only six touchdowns.

It happens, and then that thing can swing the other direction. Now, all of this is, as of this recording, Dalvin Cook is not a New England Patriot. Should Dalvin Cook become a New England Patriot, I do not stand by this analysis. Yeah, I think Zeke would get those opportunities too because obviously, Ramondre is not the case, like Metcalf, of a history of doing it a bunch of times.

So you could look at it as a team and they could go, he can't do it well, so we'll give it to somebody else. That's still a possibility. For the confidence in Mixon, you know, to go back to that conversation, who else on the Patriots is going to do it? Right now, it is Ramondre. At least we think.

They do have a history. Yeah, yeah. Kevin Harris' and Pierce Strong's. I mean, they've used small guys around the end zone before. So shocked. Danny Woodhead. Yes, yeah. It was so shocking.

Bill's a little crazy. Yes. Oh, yeah. Uncle Bill is a little bit crazy. But it was so shocking that they've still done nothing. Like, the only thing that they've done is they brought in James Robertson and they went, nah, man, that ain't it. And then they caught him.

They've improved the opportunity for Ramondre. They do seem like one of those places you're going to be holding your breath all offseason. Yes. And then if Ramondre makes it through like he did the draft, congratulations to all of you. It's going to be good. He's still going to be the guy because the longer you wait

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