Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Championship Studs & Duds + Magic Mike, One More Game! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/29
Episode Date: December 29, 2025Fantasy Football show for Dec 29, 2025. Championship Week recap! Andy, Mike, and Jason react to the weekend action and celebrate the league winning studs! Plus, the biggest Week 17 surprises, injury n...ews, and Monday Punday! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(11:20) Monday Punday(14:30) NFL News(21:50) Fantasy Studmuffins(21:55) QB Studs(26:00) RB Studs(33:00) WR Studs(39:20) TE Studs(42:05) Fantasy Duds(42:15) QB Duds(45:45) RB Duds(48:05) WR Duds(55:35) TE DudsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Ah! Welcome in!
I don't know why Andy and I are here today.
I, we really don't need to be here, Andy.
What's up, everybody?
That makes sense.
Welcome in.
All of that makes sense.
The intro makes sense.
Turn off our mics.
Jason, you want to go watch some baseball?
Let's get into a man's spring training yet or what?
Well, pitchers and catchers pretty soon.
Oh, man.
You know what?
I don't I was pretty upset you know that you did the unthinkable you got the double up our two
primary league super duper champ they said it couldn't be done everything of course I tried but I'm
not going to lie to you hearing that you've been pretty chill today but as soon as that intro music
was played and you came in you made me happy I'm happy for you I didn't know if I was going to be walking
because I got in here later than you, too.
I didn't know if I was going to be walking into the double crowns, a robe.
I didn't know what I was going to see.
And then he was pretty chill.
And then he took over the show immediately, which is really a preemptive celebration.
This is not over you.
That's right.
Jeremy, for you, you just need 131 more points from your three players.
That's right.
Okay.
So not anybody's game.
50 from cousins.
40 more from Puka
and then you just need like another 45 from Kyrn
there's not enough touchdowns in that game
yeah Mike is the double champ
he was so cautious to
accept any congratulations early
I also do wonder
like if you just asked the question by the way congratulations
to everybody out there all the football titles
if you went up against Derek Henry and you lost
I'm sorry
ain't no shame in that I'm sorry
that was one of the biggest fantasy performances
in a long time
and that's why we say
it takes a ton of skill
to get to the playoffs
and sometimes if you go up
against something like that
you just tip your cap
and move on to next year
watching the end of that
like the
where it was lining up
with the Ravens
and you were like
oh Henry's going to carry
one more time
and me and my boy
were watching
I'm like
what if he scores
what if he scores
one?
I was like
Henry
do it
Vermont was
and then that defense
ravaged by a blizzard
no man
Who cares? Go ahead, Derek Henry. We don't need to stop this.
I mean, in the year of Mike, this was the ultimate completion to your special year, literally this week.
The biggest performance in modern day history in a championship week was Derek Henry.
And probably the worst that I can remember in championship week was Josh Jacobs.
And you had Derek Henry and you played against Josh Jacobs.
So it was like right off the bat.
I did think with Jacob's performance, how that might have been comforting to you, knowing that had you made it through, you would have been beaten probably.
Derek Henry had more touchdowns than Jacobs had yards.
Yeah, it was a 50 to nothing shut out that night.
Al Borland had Josh Jacobs.
Oh, he's off the injury report.
Here we go.
And if you looked at it from a matcher perspective, you're like, well, you know, I don't feel amazing about, they know Henry's going to get the ball, right?
You don't have Lamar Jackson.
like all the logic and stuff said hey this could be a fall oh my gosh it was a
call the head and bass but not also but everything that else that could happen went
mike's way this this year i mean i we kept seeing it yeah it was i mean everything every
desire luther burden i mean you just like luther you just like him you just like him so he's
the number one wide receiver on the week it's like crazy mike has no more
problems personal problems at home
no more children they've all been sacrificed for
Christian McCaffrey it was so symbolic for him to
put the icing on the kids for Mike
and then he kind of left the field
he left the field to stretch out it looked like maybe he was hurt and it was like
I did my job Mike is now champion
and I may rest it was
because of how fantasy football works
Christian McCarfer goes out and puts up
either the best his personal best or second
best half of football in his career.
The second half kind of petered off.
He was hurt.
He actually got hurt.
But Christian McCaffrey, RB1, it is done, my friend.
At least for San Francisco, you're on your own.
I don't care.
I don't care about the 49ers success or not.
But Christian McCaffrey, from start to finish.
Oh, my gosh.
Since 2019, running back one.
53 and 39, injured, injured, running back two, running back one, champ, champ,
running back 72, injured, running back one.
Oh, Christian McCaffrey.
If he had not been hurt, we would be talking, surpassing the LT type of dominance in fantasy football.
But, and this was Mike's call at the beginning of the year.
I mean, it was...
Jeremy, we had a Josh Jacobs Christian McCaffrey bet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who won?
I'm going to crunch the numbers right now, but I think Mike's ahead.
I was like, I was so boisterous.
I went, no, on the season.
I went and I was like total points.
And Jeremy was like, do you want points per game?
I was like, no, total points.
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like the real moment, it began when Trayvium started to come alive.
Mike's season from that point on was as perfect as it could get.
and I know Papa Josh got eliminated in the semifinals
and is praying he somehow doesn't pass Mike's points this week.
I don't think he will.
So I think he can be comforted in his failure.
But there's a, I mean, there's so much going on.
This week is, it's week 18, but we're wrapping up with the Monday night football game.
Tons of championships on the line because he got big players in the game, right?
Puka, Kyron, Stafford, Bejohn, London, Pitts, right?
Who's had a big role on a lot of fantasy teams in the fantasy playoffs.
So there's a lot going on
For champs out there
Mike already talked about it
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Looks like Al Borland has sent you $100.
Thank you.
Because that's what you need right now.
He does.
I do, yes.
Mike was sending some...
This is going straight to fantasy champs.
Mike was sending some updates this week. We all have these like whoop bands on, right?
They keep track of our, or I guess you got an Apple Watch. It keeps track of your heart rate and stuff like that.
But he sent this like update. And it was like multiple hours of high stress.
That was 100% real. Nothing stays. Your heartbeat. I spent two hours in high stress according to my whoop.
And all I did was sit and watch for eight hours. Which begged the question. Like I started thinking,
about this. I was like, you got a double championship. This is a good feeling, I assume. Yeah. Yeah.
It really is. And, and, you know, stress that leads to, you know, a lot of health problems.
Long-term stress. Right. So I'm just wondering how many years of your life would you trade for what you just did?
I've lost years of my life. That's what I mean. Like, would you, like, if that was the actual trade at the
deadline, like two years for two titles, would you give it? Every man dies. Not every man is a super duper
champ what did your family enjoy yesterday when you knew it was secure well do you want the real
story uh yes it's it's not what you think safe for work it is it's not what you think it is um
so the uh my sister's brother her family came over they were doing uh christmas because we
weren't able to meet with them and so their kids were over hold on a second your sister's brother
I'm sorry
That's me
That would be your own brother
My sister-in-law
Or yourself
My wife's brother came over
And so they're doing their Christmas stuff
And
It's a little dark
So I apologize
I'm watching
Christian McCaffrey's first half
It's just basking in everything
And my father-in-law
Had passed over the summer
And so they were like
and for whatever reason they just they decide this is the time that we're going to start
working through some grief and like talking like all the events of that of the the final days
and i'm sitting there watching the event and i'm like wait you're trying to be happy i'm like uh
i don't want to be insensitive root but i'm going to scream right now you get the vibes
you guys are really really killing my vibes right now and they just start laughing hysterically
I'm like, this is
this is happy side. This is like the
crowning achievement of my
fantasy football career. Right. And you're
over here like, like no, you go
work. You got to go outside.
It's nice outside. Go out back.
Wow. Wow. Yeah.
It was a big week. And
speaking of which, you
submitted Monday Punday
answers to the weekend, the good
the bad. I have not read or
previewed one of these. Oh, all right.
So I'm going blind. All of this
at the feet of Brooks
who put these in the dock.
I have no clue if they're good or bad,
but I bet the all sound good.
Read my roster.
Good to Mike.
Mike, you can stay.
Oh, yes.
Oh, ring Henry.
Mike should just take all the good.
Okay.
Christian McNasty.
Ooh, who's this?
Brock Party?
Brock per we?
How about?
Omarian Champton.
Oh, Jason, this one's going to feel good for you.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Audrick Estimated.
Who I love.
Luther Berwyn.
Luther Beast of Burden.
Okay?
We got Drake and Bake.
I like that.
And I helped.
How about Colston, Dublin?
Mr. Dublin.
Mr. Dublin.
You want to handle these, Jay?
Sure.
Tase them nil.
Tase them over the hill.
Lost Jacobs.
Yeah.
Josh Fakabs.
That was my guy.
C.D. Sham.
Cidi.
A lot of hate for Cidie.
He was on my rost.
and I was disappointed.
All right.
Sequan Barthley.
Classic.
Jamir Phibs.
Yucky Irving.
He was bad.
Kenneth Gainless.
Jared Gawful.
Teteroa, McVillan,
and Shamison.
No, no, that's good.
Technical difficulties.
Technical difficulties, yeah.
And Shamison Williams.
Yeah, that was, um,
there were big name Dutch.
I mean,
there's some big pants that got filled.
this weekend um what was i wanted to find that where's that graphic where
derrick henry outscored oh it was like eight or nine of the biggest names in fantasy
ah mon ra and mcconky and i wish i could find that graphic if you see it
shared in the dock and i'll read it out it's the um yeah kyle said he'll find it it it's just
the most amazing list where you know derrick henry against i got it you did
So Derek Henry.
Yeah, tell me who he outscored.
By himself.
Let's see, the tweet, or you just screenshot it.
So it's Derek Henry at 45.6 points.
Yeah.
If you add up Justin Jefferson, C.D. Lamb, Alman Ross, St. Brown.
I think that's Nico.
Ladd-McConkey, Jacobs, Jameson, and Gibbs.
Oh, and Gibbs.
And Gibbs.
45.6 points for those eight dudes.
You imagine if you went into a game and it was like, you have Henry and they have those eight guys?
That was your roster? And yeah, that's your roster.
And you could have.
Those are stars.
Yeah, I don't want to like, you know, not everybody who won a title.
And if you had some of these guys you got here, be proud of that, be proud of the fact you made it to this week.
Sometimes it goes your way with every single player in every situation like Mike.
And sometimes it doesn't.
But yeah, what a wild weekend.
And congratulations to Matt in the listener league who went through a playoff run in a 14-team league averaging 130.
points. That's hard to do. And his run
went through Andy in the first round, Mike
in the second round, and me and the chamber. Yeah, we were that meme of the
Reaper just going through the doors. So he'll be back. Yeah, unfortunately
not an extra spot in the listener league because we tried. All three of us
tried to beat him and we couldn't do it. Let's talk some news.
News and notes from around the league. Presented by progressive insurance.
You will have Drake London tonight.
You won't have Devante Adams tonight.
So a couple of injury updates for the evening.
Not sure how to feel about this.
The game was the game was right there for them.
Buffalo.
Oh.
He missed, uh, Josh Allen missed Khalil Shakir on a wide open pass to end the game.
Jason.
Big Dome is so bad, baby.
Yeah.
That's right.
Put a roof on it.
Because of the rain.
Yeah.
How does that feel championship week?
Enjoy your football weather.
I mean, he just had to complete one pass.
And I'm not.
I'm talking about Josh Allen for fantasy was like...
Well, the last two weeks for Josh Allen were bad.
QB, I mean, look, QB 10.
And what did Philly have in the second half?
Like 17 yards offense?
I mean, it was terrible.
Hertz did not complete a pass in the second half, I believe.
Now, this is why the Eagles fans I know are very, very afraid.
But their defense might be good enough to just win.
Josh Allen got x-rays on his foot and ankle again after the loss.
Second week in a row.
That's still negative.
That's suboptimal.
He is trying to find something on these x-rays.
He's like, I'm telling you.
That's really what it means.
This hurts.
Let's check it again.
Something is wrong in my foot.
They just can't find it.
And they were right there, but they lost.
Gino Smith suffered a high ankle sprain against the Giants.
Oh, man.
They actually.
The tank-a-thon game was just.
There was one team tanking for sure.
It was so funny.
The kind of almost back and forth, before the game.
The back-and-forth, this guy's going on IR.
Oh, yeah?
Well, our tackles going on.
Wait, hold, Brock Bowers.
Well, you're just what,
Deal Johnson's not going to play.
You saw the Max Crosby video, right?
Yeah.
Of him shooting baskets and
Super hurt.
Jumping on a trampoline.
He is a warrior,
and he was mad.
Briseall had a huge game.
He did.
Hit his knee on the turf.
They were worried about it.
He said he's fine.
He will not need imaging.
Rashid Shaheed,
concussion.
Marvin Harrison did nothing.
I didn't even say.
He hurt his heel again?
He hurt his heel again? Yeah, he was zero for one, I think.
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, one target didn't catch it.
And what a, what a just, what a terrible team.
Oh, the Cardinals are so bad.
This guy.
Number two.
Is he still employed?
Yeah, still has a job.
Gainfully employed.
And honestly, I'm not positive he's going to be fired this offseason.
No.
No, I mean, now keep in mind.
If we lose, if he loses this last game, he'll be the most,
The losingest.
If 14.00 dogs against the Rams who need the game.
Yes.
They will lose by more points than Mike scored this weekend.
When they lose the final game, he will be the losingest coach in Cardinal history.
He will be fired.
I mean, how could he not be?
He will be fired.
Literally the worst of all time.
Drew Patzing will be fired.
The whole team will be fired.
I mean.
Into the cannon.
I hate them.
I hate them.
I hate them.
And here I am with a hat on.
Jaylon Waddle injured his ribs.
You know, for Christmas, I got some hats, like I was asking.
Yeah.
And I couldn't.
You were asking for hats?
I was.
And a lot of them are cardinal hats.
And I just couldn't get myself to put it on.
And I had, I have another hat that I really like is just a goat hat.
I was like, I can't wear that today.
Mm.
This is Mike's to go.
This is Mike's Day.
Luther Bird and injured?
You guys want one of these?
These are, these are Barros McLeonate hats.
I didn't even see your hat.
I can get you some.
It's his team.
Gross.
I'm back to Big Mad.
No longer happy for you.
We're just trying to do a show, Mike.
I mean, I'm over here.
I don't know how I'm going to afford the draft, guys.
I'm going to need a loan.
Yeah, the things I will have to do.
Yeah, the draft normally, the champ has been spending money on their presentation.
I'll get you the super duper cheap.
The info for the marching band I was going to have.
Thank you.
Um, man.
Luther Burden injured on the final play of the game quad injury
not believed to be serious I saw another update moments ago that said
he's just tired that's what it said
Harold Fanon aggravated his groin injury
that was I mean after scoring a touchdown yeah thankfully he gave you a
touchdown but that was a big time bummer what do you have
early 10 points or something in the first half of the first quarter
yep
darn out Washington broke his forearm this was terrible for the Steelers
they're now in a one-game battle for the playoffs
and Jason's dreams can come true if the Ravens win,
which is that the first time Tom and misses the playoffs
is with Aaron Rogers.
Steelers fans,
like I did have a rooting interest.
I will admit that if Jalen Warren was on my team.
Watching that game, I had no clue what the Pittsburgh Steelers were doing.
They could get nothing going in the passing offense.
Jalen Warren is just gouging every single time he's handed the ball.
and they're like,
we're going to do this with Aaron Rogers, though.
And with MVS and no METCAP.
You lost,
you had the chance to clinch the division
and you lost to the Cleveland Browns.
You targeted Denzel Award three times in a row
to end the game.
I mean, just.
So, if that was D.K. Metcalfe and you're like,
yeah, I want to take my shot with my best player, whatever.
Also, it's still not a great.
How close?
it was really genuinely felt like D.K.
Metcalfe, if he's there, they might win that game.
They probably do.
They're three and a half point road or home underdogs now for the final week.
I think that he-Warn was 12 for 64.
Metcalf's,
Metcalfe's Gaff probably cost them the playoffs.
They probably are going to miss it.
Jatavian Sanders suffered a fractured ankle, Frankshard.
Frankford ankle.
No, this sucks.
He's been.
Yeah.
And that was like, it was.
Right. It was like the first or second play.
Yeah, he's been, he's had a hard time staying healthy at times.
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By the way, before we get into Studs, just to focus on.
on Duds.
You finally lost the championship game.
I did finally lose a championship game.
But he knew.
Every time he had made a title game in the past,
he had always,
you never knew the sting of defeat.
I never knew the sting,
but it was one of those things where I knew going in.
Like I shouldn't have won the week prior
because my team was a trash.
Yeah,
you never once liked your team
and you almost won a championship with it.
Yeah.
I scored the most points in the league.
But somehow, it's weird, man.
It was a weird.
You had the most points in the league, and then in the playoffs, you were like 90 points a week?
Yeah, because that's what the team should have been doing.
It was just outkicking the coverage for 15 weeks.
All right, let's talk some studs.
Championship studs.
This week's fantasy stud muffins, presented by Lowe's.
Well, it was Drake May's week in about a half.
Goodness gracious.
Highest QBR, I think, in a really, really long time.
But then Brock Purdy, ever.
It might have been ever.
Brock Purdy passed him
yesterday. Purdy is cooking right now.
Yes. No George Kittle and he's still
cooking. And it's
like the man. Brock Purdy is
playing so
well. He's being elusive.
He's making that play where
great decisions. He's rolling
out of the pocket.
Avoiding three different tackles for a
wide open juice. I mean that play
was unbelievable.
That was not Kyle Shanahan.
That was not a scheme and a
system of like, you know,
he put him in this great
opportunity. That was Brock Purdy making
place. Yeah, Purdy
was number one, Drake May, number two.
Malik Willis, which
dude, I kid you not. I want
a championship because of Malik Willis.
Well done. I had
a basketball league
that I remember drafting him
going, you know, Jordan Love always gets hurt.
And Malik Willis, this
was not dink and dunk. This was
downfield targets. The
rumors before the game was that Malik Willis is a free agent and that he may get a chance
to start. Oh, he will. And then he comes out and does what he did there.
You combine... I'll take him in Arizona. You combine that with, I mean, was it last year or two
years ago, Jeremy, you might remember, but like Malik Willis had a stretch where it's like, they're
winning. They're winning games, and Malik Willis is doing the things. Like, he's figuring out
how to win. Yeah, last year he started weeks two and three and one, both of those games.
yeah
Jackson Dart
bounce back week
thank goodness
thank goodness
I know it's the Raiders
but
coming off of the
football
yeah coming off of the week
where they
like were punishing
dart
or just never letting him
throw it was really weird
very discouraging
so this was great to see
and it was included
nine for 48 and two
on the ground
yeah he looked like
the good Jackson Dart
and he will have better weapons
not in concussion protocol
to my non
knowledge. No, he's not
permanently part of them. It seemed like every
week you'd be in. If they just do the
protocol every week, because he's in better shape.
But next year, I mean, Malik neighbors,
Cam Scadaboo's return,
and
you know, they're sitting at number two.
They could trade down. They could make more
investments in offensive weapons for him, offensive
linemen for him. Yeah, get him a line. Obviously, they would
have had more draft capital to be able to trade
down had they gotten the number one pick. But in
truth, they have the number one pick
for them because
the Raiders are going to take a quarterback.
Right. And so at number two, they're going to get whatever
player they want. And the Raiders don't technically
have it yet. Just to remind
you. Like, the Raiders
should... That team can't
lose next week, but it is Kansas City
with the third string quarterback. So...
I'm just saying, I think their odds are like
80% right now, but it's not a lot.
Josh Allen
somehow... Josh Allen somehow
ends up at number five.
So, Trevor Lawrence had a good week.
Caleb Williams, start of the week.
3.30 and 2. Nice.
I don't understand with three timeouts and 70 seconds left on the clock at the 40-yard line
of San Francisco, how you ended up in a situation where you ran out of time on the goal line.
I think that was a horrible mismanagement by that head coach who's been great all year.
I'm just saying, like, there's no situation with three timeouts in the ball at the 40
where you should be running out of time before you can run enough plays on the goal line.
they tried the hook and ladder obviously
that didn't get them into the insome
it was a tricky play but you got to do that with a timeout
in my opinion
Tyler shuck baby
oh gonna be shook tonight
he's shucking it
333 and 2
first four game winning streak for the Saints
since Drew Breeze was a quarterback
for them
and
did this stat he's one of only
three rookie quarterbacks
with back to back 300 yard
no interception game since 1970
Dak Burrow
shock that's you got to be excited as a saints fan yes you do because you've got your guy he's the
rookie of the year he's going to be the rookie you will on offense so that's what a story and then joe
burrow also got it done in uh his classic two and a half quarters yeah got benched again for being
too good told you you wanted it you did want it yeah derrick henry obviously thank you mar chase for
them touchdowns yeah number one derrick henry on on the week for running back
everybody. Chase Brown, Mike's guy. Christian McCaffrey, Mike's guy. Number two and three,
Charbonnet. There it is. Yeah. Charbonnet, 25.2 fantasy points. I saw something this morning. I
think it was from Underdog. I want to give them credit for posting it. Do you know the points for game
of Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbonnet? Oh, no. What are they like dead even? 10.1 points for game.
For both? For both. Oh my gosh. And if you look at like percentage of points from yards and percentage of points
from touchdowns. I'll bet they are wildly
different. Just a yin-yang.
Remandre, I think he only had eight
carries in this game, still had 24 fantasy points.
Remondre.
You knew it was coming. I did, and it was
thank goodness Travian. If you were against
Ramandre, thank goodness Henderson came
back from the concussion because if he had gotten
all the work in that time
period, he might have
scored three touchdowns, four
maybe, I don't know. Yeah,
it was an amazing redemption
story for Chase Brown on the year.
The start to the season was atrocious.
I mean, I...
That's Joe Burrow.
I started this year in League of Record with Burrow and Chase on my roster.
Burrow goes down.
And fast forward.
Like, it's a long season.
The Chase Brown story is a story of remembering it's a long season.
And this was a complete, unadulterated bust.
He wasn't running well.
He wasn't scoring.
The team was atrocious.
He just won people champion.
chips five touchdowns in the final two weeks strong argument for fantasy MVP in terms of that stretch
yeah from uh i mean i don't remember when flacco got there but it's like you can see
week six rb 20 with eight points okay i mean that better than the crap he had been giving you but
from then on flaco got there week six there and then from then on it was just it was double digits
at least every week and then two top five finishes in the the last two rounds of the
One month does not a season make.
I mean, if you look at that first month and, you know,
you're Chase Brown, my guy, you're Jameson, William, my guy.
Just ask Abuka and Jameson Williams whether a month of the season
defines things for you.
We were looking up, I was looking up this morning.
First seven weeks of the season, Abuka was the wide receiver six through seven weeks.
It's a long stretch.
And Jameson Williams is the wide receiver 40 through seven weeks.
From week eight on, they completely flipped.
Wide receiver 6, wide receiver 40, basically.
Like the run.
You need to stay water.
This is why we say you never get to lock in the lineup that you think looks really pretty and then just do nothing.
No, I mean, Mike had, he made a trade for Justin Jefferson.
He had Cortland Sutton.
For the playoffs.
Yeah.
He had a team that was number one in the league at that point.
And he didn't just sit there and rest.
He swapped those guys for the Chase, Burrow,
stack played against the team you made that trade with in the championship game and you got
the Chase Burroughs stack against his Justin Jefferson and Cortland Sutton also traded for
Chase Brown at the deadline right I mean the moves were it's the year of Mike and say the for
chase Brown too if you're in dynasty you got to be very very happy about the way that things
went of me you go from weeks two through five that's a running back who for sure is getting
replaced next year.
Also, I have a chance they just roll with Chase Brown
next year and he's the guy again.
I would like the NFL
to enact more of a collegiate
playoff committee and I would like
the Saints to be awarded the South
title because they will be
more entertaining than whatever's happening in
Tampa or Carolina.
So I want the Saints to be given the title
to go to the playoffs. I would also like
the Bengals to be given
the title in the North
because I don't really
want to watch Pittsburgh
or Baltimore as much as I'd like to watch
Chase Brown and Jemar Chase
and Burroughs. So I would like to award those
two titles. Do you think
Harbaugh, Baltimore version
learned his lesson
would they, like they should have won two weeks
ago if they just kept giving Henry
the ball. Oh, Derek Henry? And then he got so much
crap for it. It's like, hey,
this week we're just giving Henry the
ball every play. I hope the way he thought about
it was like, oh yeah, this is what you want.
Right. Let's see how it.
goes.
See if he can handle it.
See if he, I'll give him his career high and carries.
I don't care.
Let's watch what.
Oh.
Like when, when Lamar comes back, if they, if they win this week and they get in the
playoffs and Lamar comes back and this round one of the playoffs, you should be giving
Derek Henry the ball every play.
I don't care.
Just through the NFL playoffs, just hand it off to Derek Henry 80% of your play.
Does it feel like you had a 1,500 yard and 16 touchdown season?
Yeah.
it does. Oh, for Derek Henry? Yeah. I don't think that's the perception from a lot of
people. I guess coming off this week, it's hard to not feel like it. Well, yeah, but this season was
not one in which we talked about Derek Henry a ton on the studs every week. And yet he just
persists as a machine. J.C.M. Hey, guess what? This was cool. Let's just rule Chris Rodriguez out
moments before the game due to illness. And J.C.M. had a monster game. Brees Hall, we talked about
it.
Last week.
Estimate, come on.
Last week, Jason started the week was
Audric Estime.
And the guy that I...
And he played him.
Yeah, I played him in my
matchup. I picked him up. I recommended playing
him. It seemed like he would be the
guy. But lo and behold,
I forgot about a player who didn't exist
basically in Taysam Hill, who became
their starting running back.
For one game in the Superdome. For one game,
which is probably his last game at home
in the Superdome. And then they're like, okay,
now let's go to what we were going to
do and Audrick Estimee 14 for 94
and a touchdown. He... That feels good, right?
Other than... It feels good and bad.
So Jonathan Taylor
rushed for more yards than Estimate it
against the Titans, who have been
a very stingy run defense. Estime
as a player has the
second most yards against the Titans
of all the running backs that they have faced.
Yeah, yeah.
It was crazy.
Hampton ended up
catching eight passes in this game.
That saved him. And got a touchdown.
Jonathan Taylor, a touchdown, and was 21 for 70.
At wide receiver this week, Luther Burden, 23.8.
I love Louvreard.
We got Word late.
Again, I thought I was cursed once again with illness.
Chris Rodriguez is the start of the week, right?
Goes down to illness.
Then I'd named Caleb Williams start of the week,
and we get word yesterday as we're like, as I'm driving.
DJ Moore and then Zakias, both down with illness.
You're already missing a Dunezay.
I'm like, great.
But Luther Burden stepped up, 23.8, Alave, 21.9, Jamar Chase, Chris Godwin, and Christian Watson rounding out the top five.
Burden is going to be a menace.
Yeah, this is one of those, a lot of times people, they don't make the playoffs, they check out.
They don't pay attention.
They don't keep up with football the rest of the way.
You might miss this real, because it's very late in the season, but Burden's having a breakout.
The way that it happened where he started looking amazing and then got injured and then missed the game.
And then thankfully that was, you know, prime time.
So I think more people saw it.
But Burden will be very interesting.
Next year, you look at this roster.
DJ Moore should be back unless they trade them because contract wise.
They owe him so much money.
But Rome should be healthy and much better.
Then you've got this burden breakout.
Yeah.
And Mr. Loveland.
Yeah.
Breakout.
Touchdown guarantee.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
Kachin.
Luther Burden, Colston, Loveland.
The future is here.
It's fun.
congratulations bears yeah you know it's it's exciting and look you were right there you could have
won this game easily it was it's against the team that might get the number one seed in the entire
conference and um you know the playoffs are going to be fun and luther burden nice that he's not
super hurt right olivay into the year or is going to end our fantasy season as the wide receiver
six eight for one 19 and one getting shucked each and every week 102 receptions
1,400 yards and 13 touchdowns is his pace with Shuck.
That's his, that is what Chris Oliva is done with Shuck.
And it's been super consistent, almost every single game, a good game.
One bad game, one mediocre game, and everything else great.
I mean, 14 yards of catch.
It is, this is, he's a good wide receiver.
Yes, he's always been a good wide receiver, has been surrounded by garbage.
we're rolling out Spencer Rattler and Derek Carr is like this
stop it get out of here that's not the solution
then the concussion situation
so the OLAVe being back to relevance is
the dynasty value of OLAV
yeah just a and I'm going to be honest with you
I would trade him an M shape yeah well is this
concussion worry no not as can by the way
shout out to Olave he's going to play 17 weeks
I mean he's playing next week
and the concussions it wasn't just last year
like he'd been knocked out previous years with injury
so amazing for this dude
I would trade him on the
sort of like if you can get
this kind of value for him
I saw a list and I wish I could find the tweet
maybe Kyle can of what the other starting cast
and that Tyler Shuck has other than Oliva
the starting seven or eight players
I mean it's it's undrafted players
it's nobody's right valet's hurt
they don't have other receivers.
I'm not going to say he's going to Brian Thomas next year,
but it has some similarities to me where it's like,
you're the only show in town by a wide margin.
They should go out and spend some money on some pass catchers next year.
And I think that will make a difference on the target show.
I don't know if it stays the same.
I'm not saying a lobby's a bust.
Right.
I'm just saying.
I think they might be happy with Velae, though.
I would guess that they'd add some more.
And then Velae hasn't been there in the last few weeks.
but I, he's been awesome.
I mean, Olavi's an awesome player.
So I don't know what the view is on Dynasty
where you guys have them right now in the, in the rankings.
It's really tough because when you have a young,
talented, wide receiver, that's like what I just drool over for Dynasty.
And so it's very difficult.
Luther Burden or Chris Olave.
Ooh, Chris Olave for me.
Yeah, I think it's Olave.
Tederoa McMillan or O'Alova.
Oh, man.
I'll go Tet there
Oroa
Thank you
Don't
Ted Arroa
Nico
Or Olave
What is the age gap there
It's 26.8 for Nico
and 25.5 for Ollaa
Then I'll go to Nico
Yeah, stay with Nico
But
Bucca or Olave
Oh man
Abuka's
23 years old
Like that would be the
That would be the trade
Yeah
That's the trade you could do
And I would do it. I'd rather have a buca.
So that's the kind of situation, because you would be, you still have the concussion
risks, but I mean, we're a year-round show.
We're going to be talking to honesty stuff.
That's the thing is you will have to take the risk, the gamble of Olave, who's been producing
and go get someone else who is underperforming and sit in that for the entire offseason.
What is wrong with Tampa?
Dude.
I mean, Todd Balls is going to get fired, isn't he?
They're supposed to be a defensive team
They can't stop anybody
There was a report yesterday that said
No, Bowles is going to be safe
But
It might be time
I think we've seen the best
That Bowls
Can put out there
The defense is atrocious
The offense is taking a step back
Bucky Irving is not himself
Right now
They didn't have Tristan
Worf's I realized that
But Baker's missing people
Yeah
I'm so bummed they were so fun yeah
I think that that's that's what I mean of like last year
that was that was electric and that wasn't enough to get it done
yeah big week for Stefan Diggs
Christian Watson keeps it going
Michael Wilson kept it going
and Wondale who I think Jason mentioned
towards the end of the week big weeks for those guys
at tight end shout out to the all-time leader
There he is.
Big Bride ended up number one.
All-time leader in receptions in a single season,
Trey McBride, who passes, Zachert,
who he passed on the Debt Chart in Arizona.
And Trey McBride
purely...
Purely...
Dinkiest garbage touchdown.
Oh, man.
That was delicious garbage.
Yeah.
You got to hit it.
Oh, the garbage man can.
Oh, man.
So got another week for Trey McBride to add to the total.
He's at 119 receptions.
He had no stats.
He had no steps.
Receptions at tight-end.
be at 130 by the end of next week. With 11
touchdowns, which is like, I mean,
that is. Kyler would never.
Kyler couldn't. Also,
Jacobi, I mean, it ended up okay.
It's like, he kind of
he kind of pumpkin there.
I mean, the last couple. Oh, he really, I mean,
the Cardinals were winless with Jacoby.
But I'm saying he was giving us. Yeah.
High flying production.
It's so Winston, Flacco,
whatever. Yeah, it's the same stuff.
Jacoby is a very,
very good NFL backup.
This is 10th season.
Like, we know what Jacoby is and what he isn't.
He is fine for fantasy to come in and, you know, just slinging around a lot.
But, uh, yeah, he's, he's a backup.
Yep.
Yeah, I mean, all the fun that Joe Flacco is providing, Joe Flacco is well below 500 as a starter in the last three years.
These guys come in, Winston, they come in.
They come in. They give us joy in our hearts and then they lose.
Philip Rivers has been a lot of fun, a lot of fun.
Yeah.
And no wins.
Yeah, yep.
Trey McBride number one, Colston Love Land over two.
Mr. Love Land.
And Tanges McBasketball number three.
Yeah.
So of everything we were all going through, last week, I'm keeping myself included of,
what do we do to replace George Kittle?
You're like, hey, I went with Brenton Strange, you know, it was, do you believe in
Tate Some Hill, what has happened here, this, this, it was Tonges McBasketball.
It was a.k.a. Brock Purdy.
It was the answer for both the kiddle and the Bauer situation,
because Michael Mayer ended up with 13 points number five on the week.
And that was the story.
We had a big touchdown and a score for Chigga Conquo.
Oh, man.
That was a man touchdown.
He's such a funny guy because he lives for the end of the season.
He makes plays like that every year.
And you're like, oh, he should be like a huge, great tight end.
And while Joanne Johnson, four for 95, Jason started the week, Harold Fanon,
got in the end zone thankfully
Gadsden scored again
Barner scored again
Hunter Henry scored again
and we'll take a break
and we'll talk about
and commiserate with some players
not on Mike's team
well
Um, Jared Goff and Jalen Hertz let you down.
Dude, that Jared golf game, I, like, I can't.
Three fumbles lost, two interceptions.
Minnesota's a good defense, but that was, not that good.
Yeah, that was some bad play.
Sam Darnold, uh, ended with a pretty bad performance as well.
Jalen Hertz was 13 for 27 for 110 yards.
I don't know if you saw the video, uh, they caught Nick Siriani coming
down the tunnel at the end of the game. Did you see this after they? Obviously they
stopped. They won. Philly said no to that two-point conversion is what everyone said. And I'm
like, he was wide open. And he's just, Seriani's a, you know, he's a loud guy. And he's just
like, they can't do no more talking now, blah, blah, blah. And he's doing that down the
down the tunnel. And then he does it kind of like to A.J. Brown. If you could see the indifference.
on A.J. Brown's face. There was no hype. There was no excitement.
AJ Brown knew what really happened in that game, which was an offense that threw for 110 yards.
I mean, be excited in your win, celebrate your win.
You're talking about A.J. Brown? No, no. The coach. I'm saying be excited. You won. You beat the bills. You stopped the two-point conversion.
I'm going to say something. But don't go out of control. I think Papa Josh is more dignified in his victories than Nick Sirion.
Wow. Which is, I mean, look at Josh's face.
Even Josh knows how undignified he is.
And I'll tell you what, when it's going bad for Papa Josh,
he doesn't bring his kids in and use them as a shield.
Oh, man.
Philly fans are not going to disagree.
No, yes.
They're not going to be mad.
They're mad at Siriani.
Here's a fun stat from Robert Mays.
Were you going to read this?
I was going to bring up the stat of Sam Darnold.
Oh, no, no.
Let me finish the Jalen Hertz stat here.
Per true media sports, there have been 10 games this year
where a team has had fewer than five passing yards and a half.
Eagles have three of those games.
Holy crap.
And they still might win the Super.
I don't think this Eagles team,
if the offense is playing like that,
can make it through three rounds.
I'll say that.
Yeah, the offense has to.
Their offense can show up.
Exactly.
They have the players to do it.
Their offense has been bad,
but they still have the same.
I mean, Lane Johnson is.
is so much to this offense. They haven't had them. They get them back. All of a sudden,
the offense gets healthy and better at the right time. They're literally the Super Bowl
champions. It could. Yeah. It could happen. But no, I was laughing at the amazing
truth of Sam Darnold, now joining the very elite, now five pack of quarterbacks with
consecutive 13 win seasons. These are nobodies, right? Brett Farr. Tom Brady did it twice.
Brett Farve did it once.
Peyton Manning did it once.
Aaron Rogers and his MVP stretch.
And now Sam Darnold.
Tom Dunees.
Yeah.
This is that Hydra gift for sure.
If Seahawks played Philly 10 times, what's the record?
Splitting home?
Yeah.
I'd give the Eagles six of the 10.
I think that's.
I feel about the same.
Yeah.
Josh Jacobs, oh my gosh.
Four, four, three.
Off the injury report, huh?
Oops.
That is a fart in the pants.
That is a steam.
It was not just air.
Yeah.
That was a steaming pile.
Gamble loose.
Imagine going into your title week and you're like, man, I'm going to play Jacobs and
Jemir Gibbs and I'm going to flex Sequin.
Well, the nice thing is you probably did not.
have to play Josh Jacobs in the championship. Most people did not because of how bad he was the
week before. And he kicked me out of the playoffs. So I didn't have to experience that. But
I mean, you're talking about literally two active weeks in a row in the playoffs where you combine the
games and you don't have five fantasy points combined. That's insane. Four carries for three yards
is as embarrassing as it gets.
Play calling-wise, I don't know how you end up there,
but I guess when you don't play any defense against Derek Henry,
like, it's a shame for our entertainment as not being a Packers fan.
It's a shame that the Lions blew that game.
Right.
Because this would be, I mean, you'd be sitting here going into the final week
with the chance for the Lions to pass the Packers.
Jamir Gibbs 17 for 41.
But Max Rosmer is.
was too much.
Do you get Max Brosmer?
To overcome.
Carson Palmer today is twice the quarterback.
Like if you just brought him in, then Max Brosmer.
Sequin didn't catch a pass.
Jalen Warren and Kenneth Gainwell, we were worried about the fact that, hey, if Green Bay
beat Baltimore, they might let these guys rest.
They let them rest anyway, to their own maybe playoff detriment.
They scored six points, man.
Six points.
And both running backs were running well.
It would, I mean, 19 carries between Jalen Warren and Kenneth Gainwell in that environment is unacceptable.
Michael Carter, sevens for 29.
Yeah, that one's.
At the end of the day, that one's a big bummer.
He's Michael Carter.
Tyrone Tracy, 14 for 62.
That's not the end of the world.
At wide receiver, this was where people really, you know, we talked about all the different names that showed up.
If you add them all together, they don't equal Derek Henry.
Well, C.D. Lamb, Nico Collins, Amon Ra, those were Jameson Williams.
Those were all guys in that list.
Tedderall and McMillan won for five.
That game was ridiculous.
Bryce Young's line, do you guys know what it is?
I know he barely threw for any yards.
Well, he threw the ball.
93 yards?
He threw the ball 24 times.
Okay.
And he completed, he completed 58% of his passes.
That's pretty bad.
54 yards
54 total yards
504
45 passing yards
yeah
remember I was telling you
how much more fun
Shuck and Olavah
would be in the playoffs
than watching that team
or Tampa Bay right now
yep
Nico Collins
unfortunately did not catch
either of the long bomb touchdowns
those went to Nolan Higgins
he was 3 for 57
not going to win you the week with that
Tedro McMillan I said it
DJ Moore was sick
had one catch not sick like yo that was sick more like yeah you lose illness jameson
williams is two for 37 uh just part of the golf experience Jefferson oh man four for 30
he literally when four for 30 was like man that's that's pretty good with what brosome was doing
that tells you his quarterback situation Justin Jefferson's fantasy points since week 10 oh no
5, 8, 6, 1, 2, 3, 11, 5.
Those are total fantasy points in a week.
I mean, that...
Like, if you started like Ryan Flanoy or Isaac to Slaah or Jalen Coker,
you were better off, is what you're saying?
Yeah, I mean, Justin Jefferson...
I don't understand how you can be as good as he is,
perhaps the best wide receiver in the entire National Football League
and have a run of that much
irrelevance while healthy.
I know your quarterback was a backup
and then a backup to the backup. That doesn't matter.
I feel like if one of the three of us
were playing quarterback, we could at least try to get
them the ball a little bit more.
The first two games after
Burrow went down, Jamar Chay scored
six points and four points with
who was the pre-flacco backup
who's name was. Yeah, Jake Browning.
Like this.
And that was,
you know when that was going on
it's like how does this possibly get fixed
and then some
some miracle is Joe Flacco shows up
and fixes it enough that
Joe Burrow can come back but
like the fix
will J.J. McCarthy's going to be their guy next year
will he be able
to be good enough man I don't know
to get Justin Jefferson
me that week 16 that was
that was Jefferson or that was
McCarthy
and the last couple weeks
his injury, the timing of the injury
sucks so much.
Well, it's magic, Mike.
You were facing Jefferson.
Well, I apologize for that.
Because I want J.J. McCarthy and the Vikings to be good.
I mean, the timing was awful.
Since week 10,
Drake London basically has as many points as Justin Jefferson.
He's played three games to Justin Jefferson's eight.
I mean, John Metchy has more fantasy points
than Justin Jefferson.
Yeah, where does that take him in the draft?
He can't be a first rounder, right?
I mean...
I mean, I think.
But the name.
I mean, bypassing Justin Jefferson is going to be hard in your drafts next year.
And it might be to your own peril.
For sure.
I mean, obviously, there's no one in the world who's going to say that Justin Jefferson is not a great wide receiver.
Let's have a conversation about another player that I want to know if you think he's a great wide receiver.
Last year, he played 69% of the snaps.
Nice.
He had 1,100 receiving yards.
Average 12.5 fancy points per game.
This year, he's playing 78% of the snaps,
has 789 receiving yards,
and averages nine fancy points per game.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
You're talking about, my little lad?
I'm talking about your little lad.
He is little right now.
66 for 789 is not what you hope for.
He's still, I mean, he's got six touchdowns.
He had seven last year, so it's not like that's the differentiator in the fantasy points per game.
Yeah, they have other.
Two targets, one for 31.
They have other places to go with the ball now with Keenan Allen there, their great rookie selection of past catchers, including Gadsden, Trey Harris.
They've got.
Cuge is the biggest one.
And Cuge is.
Huge was gone.
He had disappeared.
He would not factor in this offense and then it all came together.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I don't think Ladd.
is any worse or has taken a step back. It's just he is the type of player where he's not
the dominant alpha one for a team. He's a great possession wide receiver when needed.
He's not always needed. He's certainly not needed as much as he was last year. And so I think
we discussed this during the draft season. I was pretty low on McConkey for where he was being
drafted just because there's a lot of ways that he could not have the same market share.
What is Brian Thomas? Four for 39 in this game. Brian Thomas, just to give you the same thing
I just did for McConkey, 14.1 fantasy points per game last year, 1,200 yards, 87 and 10. This
year, 8.3 fantasy points per game, 45 for 658 and 2. I mean, BTJ was drafted ahead of McConkey. Both
were drafted very high and the dynasty forecast for BTJ I mean there I think you can still have
some optimism but the long-term deal for Jacoby Myers and the addition of Travis Hunter is not
even playing right now I mean Parker Washington was great again we didn't talk about him in the
studs we should have he was yeah he was outstanding his after the catch is what makes him special
yeah i i thought last week was just ser tan on brian thomas junior and but park i really wonder if
he's going to be gone man i really do yeah because i just look at is he a free agent no no no no i'm sorry
bt j like i just strange meyers hunter parker that's that's four names that they've used a lot
and they're they're a 13-1 team right he's a on a rookie contract and so unless they are desiring to
trade him. I think he is
really a perfect fit for this
team in the sense that he
doesn't, I mean, right now
he's not an alpha, but he's like
even if he's their wide receiver three,
he's not going to be happy. Oh, I'm sure he's not happy.
That's all I'm saying. But the team has to be
to have him as your like wide receiver three.
I just, it doesn't add up to me.
The math doesn't check out to me of him staying there.
A 1400 yard receiver
that you're not going to give anything close
to that work, those things don't last.
yeah i hope he's traded i really do buffalo is calling brian thomas junior pick up the phone um
and limping into the um limping into the uh the final week of the year tasem hill did nothing
oh my gosh the we started getting out on hill probably friday i put a few tweets out there
people asking questions about Tastom Hill or
any other name I'd kind of give you two or three names that didn't include Hill
because we found out that he was just saying goodbye.
Yeah, Mike had tweeted at Underhill and to get information
because I was pretty high on Taysam Hill when we were recording the shows last week
but then after that we got the information on X from Underhill
that there was a press conference basically.
talking about getting him involved for his last home game at the Superdome.
And so we, so hopefully you're following us on, on action.
Yeah, I brought it up again on Sunday Live too.
Yeah, we, we did start pivoting and going away from Taysam Hill, thankfully,
because he ended up with zero targets and zero rushing yards after being like a third of their
offense the week prior.
Travis Kelsey, 536, maybe his last game ever next week for Kansas City.
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mailbag, Wednesday this week, which is New Year's Eve.
We're going to do kind of a Megalodon, a Week 18 Megalodon with all the week 18 matchups,
the Wheel of Shame, start to the week.
And no show on Thursday and Friday this week, New Year's Day,
day after so a big week for you week 18 weirdos which is the official term right week 18 weirdos
we're still here for you we love you we're being weird with you but we're gonna complain but we're
this is our this is the week where I really relate to early 1900s coal miners that's all yeah right
get that they had it tough we have it as tough as them tougher tougher than them yeah um doing the
heavy lifting of week 18 like black lung carpal tunnel yeah like they kind of walked into a void and
I feel like we might be talking into a boy with week 18.
So it's very, very similar.
But they had the canaries, which are like cool little birds, and we don't have that.
Yeah, we don't have any mascot or pet around here that we can sacrifice.
Yeah.
I guess they did do that with the canaries, right?
Oh, my goodness.
You go die.
Yeah, they were sacrificial canaries.
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