Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Fantasy Draft Redo + TNF Preview, League Winners - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/8

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Oct 8, 2025. Top 24 players for the rest of the 2025 fantasy football season! Andy, Mike, and Jason make picks in a two-round mock draft! Plus, Week 6 start/sit decisions, Jo...e Flacco trade news, and a preview of Thursday Night Football. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(06:05) Backup Options(10:35) NFL News(26:35) Thursday Night Breakdown: Eagles at Giants(27:00) Fantasy Draft Redo(53:50) Mailbag(54:10) Trade Darren Waller and Emeka Egbuka for Puka?(57:45) Trade Tyler Warren for Trey McBride?(58:35) Jaylen Waddle rest of season value?(01:04:30) Trade Nico Collins and Tony Pollard for Josh Jacobs?Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's going on, Foot Clan? I want to invite you before we start today's show to head over to Join the Foot.com, become an official Footclan member. Get access to the ultimate dashboard, the brand new rest of season rankings, and a ton of other premium tools and resources. Check it out at Jointhefoot.com. The Fantasy Footmuller Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host. Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Welcome to our podcast, the fantasy footballers. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. maybe you're watching maybe you're listening week six on the way our our own league of record has been hyperactive on the trade front people making decisions apparently five weeks into the year about their futures and whether they think they are contenders or pretenders or planners for next year has been popping we last week i was trying to make a trade where i was basically playing for the future. Because I'm like, I'm on the bubble. I'm in the playoffs right now, but I didn't have the team that looked like it could win. And I was then I benched Rico Dowdle and gave you confidence that you could like you didn't lose. And I, I have withstood victories through the CD Lamb injury. And so then last night I decided I found a good deal where I sold some of my future assets and I'm in now. And then that inspired Papa Josh to say, well, I'll, I'll
Starting point is 00:02:00 I'll see your... Through these picks. He's like, are we going to be alive tomorrow? I don't know. Yeah. I think he's quitting the league after this year because he traded all of next year's draft, basically. Yeah, he went all in. So, yeah, we've had a lot of trade stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:02:15 We had the waiver wire just go through. Oh, yes. Yeah, we have to bring this up. Josh, thank you for reminding us. You know, when you get the alert and you're like, and it's for sleep, we play on sleeper, yeah. Trade has been accepted. You're like, everyone wants to go see. What is this?
Starting point is 00:02:31 So, this is last night we all scramble, fire it open. Yeah, big trade. Big trade has gone through. Jason got Josh Jacobs. And Jason responds to his own trade. Yeah. With white guy blinking gift. Yeah, you're not allowed to do that.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And we're like, wait, hold on. It couldn't surprise you. Yeah, no, it did. You were surprised by your own trade. This was. You're like, whoa, look at this trade that I did. Yeah, well, it was one of those things where I had made this offer. It was my co-manager and I.
Starting point is 00:02:58 We were in the office. You sent the offer. But I sent plenty of offers, okay? And I don't always expect them to go through. They must be bad because not many of your trades go through. Yeah, exactly. That's the point. And so then I just saw a trade has been completed.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And like I was saying, I was kind of on the bubble. Am I in going for this year? Am I not? And then it was like, oh, okay, it went through. I guess I'm in. So yeah, that was me being surprised. It's like when a dog farts. And it's like, whoa, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Who did that? Yeah, that's, we were all trying to figure out who put this trade through. Oh, my gosh. It did throw me off because when I saw the gift, I was like, oh, it must not involve you. And the trade, congratulations. For those wondering, I traded A.J. Brown. Who was my tradeaway candidate? And my second round pick and Travis Hunter for Josh Jacobs, my trade for candidate.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And Chris O'Lobbe. Yeah, it was good trade. It was. For our league, good trade. Have you seen those neutral? neutral pass rates for the Eagles over the last five weeks. Oh, they got to be they were passing a lot last week. But I'm not logged into Twitter.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Oh. So you'll need to pull up Matthew Betts's. Pull up Matthew Betts's tweet and read these off for a second. Good look. Going 2FA on that live. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Possible. Look, I was having computer problems. I cleared all my cookies. It was the worst mistake of my life. Worst mistake of my now I can't do anything. Eagles neutral there you go. Pass rate by week. Yep. 36% barf, 38% barf, 59% okay, 69% okay, 62% okay, 79%. So they were, they were, how'd that work out for them?
Starting point is 00:04:38 Well, win, win, win, loss is how it's worked out for their record. Yeah, so I think things will get better for AJ Brown. I agree. No question. He's so difficult right now. Yeah, he is. And I think Josh Jacobs is great moving forward. So it'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:04:56 We got a jam pack show. We've got backup options. We've got NFL news, including the big trade that happened moments after we finished recording yesterday with Joe Flacko. We have Thursday night preview, and we'll be talking more about them Eagles. And then we're going to do a 2025 fantasy draft redo. And I think we got some mailbag, too, right? Yes, sir. We've got it all.
Starting point is 00:05:15 We'll be here all day long. Congratulations right now. The DAC stack is in the lead in the Megalobul, 20,000 of you playing in the DACStack Crazy Joe. those are the top two in the current megal a bull rank. Jason, did you break into the top thousand? I'm on it. Let me check. I doubt it. I think I'm still
Starting point is 00:05:35 undefeated, but yeah, you're just not making the scoring enough points. It doesn't matter right now. I'm saving it up when the playoffs come. Yeah. Oh, that's smart. Store them up. Stash the points. All right, well, look, congratulations. You're not in the top thousand. The
Starting point is 00:05:53 Dax, that crazy Joe. Oh, I'm nine and one. I am actually 2,917. Oh, things have really taken a turn. Moving on. Backup options, presented by progressive insurance. Well, the waiver wire just went through in all of our leagues, and we always want you to drop it like it's hot. Pay attention to who was let go as a result of all the waiver signings.
Starting point is 00:06:24 the most dropped players on Sleeper in the last 24 hours that will play, do you care? Do you not care? Sean Tucker. Yeah, I care right now while Buckley's hurt. I don't think you understand the rules of the game. I said, yeah, I care. Okay. You're going to have to go quick. I got a big list. All right. Justice Hill. No. No.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Chris Rodriguez. No. Bachel Tutton. Yes. Yes. Oh, you do care with Tudin? Mike's taking that one. I took it. I got it. All right. Xavier Scott. No. Olly Gordon. No. Isaiah Davis. Yeah, a little bit Breschard Smith Deep, deep league, yeah
Starting point is 00:06:56 Darius Slate and Malik Washington Jalen Tolbert Uh, nope Zach Ertz Jason cares but I do not No, I don't either Taysome Hill No
Starting point is 00:07:06 And then All right Defenses is whatever But So if you did not get the pickups That you were hoping for You didn't bid correctly Or you didn't have the roster room yet
Starting point is 00:07:15 You hadn't drop somebody, whatever We want to give you every week Some backup options Some players that you might be able to pull off the waiver wire and spot start. Jason and I went with tight ends this week. I want to hear Jason's. Well,
Starting point is 00:07:27 okay, I won't share mine then. Well, since we already said Jason does while you guys don't, Zach Ertz to me is a guy that is going to be clearly dropped in basically every league out there. What, but why? Because he had a goose egg. He went and he did nothing. But that's why he
Starting point is 00:07:43 likes him. He had a bad game and in this game that was the, you know, the breakthrough of Bill Kroski, having his monstrous game. Jaden Daniels didn't do much in that game. It was a really weird game script and one target to Zach Ertz. But that's obviously not what usually happens with Jaden Daniels and Zach Hertz. We have plenty of history here of those two out there together. I mean, he was the tight end eight last year with Jaden Daniels. The first two games of the season. He was the
Starting point is 00:08:11 tight end nine and the tight end two scoring double digit fantasy points both weeks. Then Jaden Daniels was injured. Snap counts were very high then. Did you know that? Yeah. 90% for one of them. 64% in the other. And so my point is, you look and it's like three bad weeks in a row. But two of those were Marcus Marietta. You shouldn't have been playing him anyways. And one bad game with Jaden Daniels doesn't mean Zacherts is like going to vanish from this offense. I think it's a mistake.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I am speaking as someone who is currently trying to figure out the tight-in position. Like I didn't get any of the big, big names. I tried to bid up for Darren Waller. I got outbid. I tried to trade for Tyler Warren I got out trade offered and so I'm I'm still rostering Zacherts right now
Starting point is 00:08:58 I picked up Mousin Taylor I'm trying to figure it out but I think it would be a mistake to just drop Zacherts and say well he's done yeah no that's fair and I want to flag another tight end who played 92% of snaps who had 81 yards receiving
Starting point is 00:09:14 it's Kate Otten so you're talking about this tight end landscape we've seen him be fantasy relevant for multiple weeks in a row. It's just interesting. Four for 81's a nice line. Playing almost every snap. That's great. And then Godwin's really not been anything yet.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Not yet. Evans is not back yet. I think Kate Otten might be worthy of a spot start. All right. And I want to talk about my guy. Cover your ears, everyone. We did not adjust the volume. I know. It's good stuff. Isaac Tesla of the Detroit Lions. This is being brought up because
Starting point is 00:09:47 right now, Khalif Raymond, is banged up. There is a chance that he misses. This isn't an absolute must add, but someone you can just throw on the back of a bench. And, I mean, Tesla has, he has showed up in all the opportunities that he has been given. Should he get to be a
Starting point is 00:10:03 full-time wide receiver 3 for Detroit this week? There's a chance that he really shows up and he just takes that job. And as of right now, Jameson Williams is, he's getting targets, but it's just not coming through. There is there is a space in fantasy football leagues
Starting point is 00:10:20 for Isaac Tesla to be stashed and maybe get that role really going. Okay. That was backup option sponsored by progressive insurance quote today at progressive.com. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by progressive insurance.
Starting point is 00:10:40 It seems like more often than not we've been very fortunate. A lot of breaking news and trades and things have happened like while we're recording or just before recording. yesterday right after we finished recording we got the big news that the Bengals had acquired Joe Flacco from the Browns and it was like oh darn we didn't get to react to it
Starting point is 00:10:57 I think that was good in this specific instance because the knee jerk immediate reaction was hallelujah Jamar Chase and Teehiggins are saved yep that was my initial thought it was like wow
Starting point is 00:11:12 because we had just talked on the show about how I think it's like they're stuck It's going to get worse. You've only got Brett ripping farts behind Browning right now. Yeah, it's a shell high chance for Chase. Yeah, you should sell them. And as soon as that news came through, they trade for Joe Flacco. I was like, oh, man, I wish we didn't say we should sell them. It's all better. They fix the whole. Do they get an old line with Flacko? And that's the thing is like, Flacco's about to die. He's going to be hit a lot. I mean, Jake Browning is Lamar Jackson. If you're just talking about the legs compared to Joe Flacko. And so is Borough. Burrough's great with pocket awareness and movement and all of that. And he just, I mean, this offensive line doesn't exist for the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:11:58 You put a statue there. Yeah, he snaps the ball and he puts his feet in two buckets of cement. That's how he gets ready to throw the football. And J.J. Zacharyson had shared this. His rating under pressure, according to PFF, Joe Flakos. In 2024, 41st out of 43 qualified quarterbacks went under. pressure. It's not last. This year 36 out of 38. Also not last.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But like the reason he did not start in Cleveland because they pulled them off the field because he was turning the ball over and getting sacked too much and not moving the offense. So look, Jerry Judy and Isaiah Bond are not T. Higgins and Jim R. Chase. He will give a little bit more of a
Starting point is 00:12:37 floor to those guys in my opinion but not to the level of potential excitement that your league mates might have. And that's where you have to ask yourself are they still a sell option? Yes. This is good news for the Bengals' offense. It is because we talked about it. You had Brett Rippin' Farts behind him.
Starting point is 00:12:54 That's worse than Joe Flacco. This is... Who has got released. Yeah. Oh, all right. Yeah. Nice. Quiet.
Starting point is 00:13:03 But deadly. It was pretty silent. Yeah. Silent, unnoticed. No one cared. Not deadly at all. And so this is good news for... It is good news.
Starting point is 00:13:14 For T. Higgins. For Jamar Chase. But it is not... great news. Jamar Chase is not back. Jamar Chase is not going to be a top three wide receiver with Joe Flacco with this offensive line. And so is this a trade opportunity? I think you just see if maybe someone is completely hyped. Like, oh my gosh, I'm willing to pay preseason Jamar Chase, you know. Oh, yeah, you're not getting that. But people go crazy with news. I mean, last year when Amari Cooper got traded to the Buffalo Bills, it was like, oh my gosh, he's got Josh
Starting point is 00:13:47 Josh Allen's got and someone someone traded him for Jamar Chase just on the hype of the news I don't know. Someone accepted a trade but go on. Okay, someone accepted a trade but my point is people do wild things with they do hype news and if you can get a wild thing, then I would be willing
Starting point is 00:14:03 to do it's hope and it's the chain you think you're the sharp. Right. You think you're the one that's going to take advantage of the situation it's like buying you know buying a stock that's really low that could go way up and the hope for me with Flacco is Flacco is
Starting point is 00:14:17 he's just he is a better quarterback than Jake Browning so it's like the the quick stuff I think that Flacco will be able to identify the quick hitting
Starting point is 00:14:29 passes get it out better and faster than Jake Browning and should they call like a double move I think that Flacco will see it faster so it's just it's about processing
Starting point is 00:14:41 so I think that you get a slight bump up yes you do My tweet was literally, it's something. Yeah, it is. They had to do something. Their division is somehow still not out of reach, which is absolutely absurd. Them starting to an O and the collapse of the Ravens have set them up to where you're just trying to find a way to get Joe Burrow back for the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Also, Joe Flaggow is playing the Packers again. He beat him. He did. He beat him once. I don't think the Bengals defense will play. as well as the Brown's defense did. You don't think so? I don't.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Okay. Could be wrong. The earliest that I'm seeing Burrow able to get back since he had surgery on September 19th is basically the week 16 game. So Burrow will not be seen again unless they're optimistic. And it would, I hope it happens.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Like it would be real fun if Joe Flacko is good. Also, the fact of if you get through week 16, Joe Flacco has somehow helped carry this seat to the playoffs, and they'll be like, see ya, pal, thanks so much. Maybe. It's Joe Burrow time. Yeah. They're, yeah, this report seems insane to me. Well, Dylan Gabriel is going to be the starter in Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah. And. Yeah, there's follow out on the other side, too. You know, like I thought Gabriel managed the game pretty well. He's not a special player necessarily. If this is real, I'm shocked. Wait. Mary Kay Cabot says,
Starting point is 00:16:14 Brown's head coach, Kevin Cofansky, will wait until later in the week to decide if Shador Sanders will be the number two. Right now, Shador Sanders is the number two because he's the only other quarterback on the roster, but they did sign someone to the practice squad. Did he tweeted that? It's pretty, is that can we verify that that's the real person? Because that just seems. Well, she is a real person, but no, I know that she is a screenshot. It's a screenshot. I know that she's a real person.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I just, I'm in the world of AI. and it not being a direct link to a tweet, I'm just wanting to... Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, never trust a screenshot of the tweet. If you have two quarterbacks in your roster and you have to come out and say the second one might not be your two. Bailey Zappy. I just think that's wild. Zab Zab. Zappi. It was her, yes.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Okay. So it's real. Okay. So Bailey Zappi's on the practice squad. That's an unacceptably bad comment for the future of Chador Sanders. Yeah. We all assume he'll get snaps this year. Yeah, I mean, when this trade happened, it was like...
Starting point is 00:17:14 Like, well, I don't think Dylan Gabriel's going to be able to do enough to where he's just locked in every week, no matter what, for the rest of the season. The Browns are winning so many games that the calls for the Shadur Sanders won't come. So Shadur Sanders should get starts, but that's only if he's the backup. He said he wants to do what's best for the team and the players, and that they're trying to develop Shadur Sanders very intentionally. But you're going to draft a quarterback next year. Yeah, that's the issue. So find out now. Yeah, they may develop a path out of Cleveland for him.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Jalen Warren, arrow pointed up for his return. I like the quote is arrow is pointed. Normal is it, arrow is pointing. You're like, hey, the arrow's pointing up. The arrow's pointing up. Not for Tom, the arrow is pointed up. It's already done. I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:18:02 That didn't really stand out as strange to me at all. Really? No. No, the arrows pointed up. No, that seems fine. You think it's weird? I'm with Mike. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:11 All right. Sounds weird. I'm glad. Lamar Jackson uphill battle to play against the Rams and they've got the buy week right afterwards so I think we'd all be surprised if Lamar plays this week
Starting point is 00:18:23 and if they won I'd be very surprised if that happened too I think they are four seven and a half favorites last I saw underdogs the Ravens the Rams were favorite yeah wow Britain Strange went to IR with a quad injury for the Jags
Starting point is 00:18:37 this is it's a bummer it's a bummer for Brent and Strange it does mean that Travis Hunter has a future here They said they're going to start throwing him the ball more down the field. You need that, right? He's capable of the big play. He had a monstrous play that changed the game. He's going to get more offensive snaps and more opportunities with Britain Strange.
Starting point is 00:18:54 He was sucking up, what, seven, eight targets a game? Naim Hines signed to the Chargers Practice Squad, that situation with the running backs there. You know, maybe somebody emerges. But my biggest problem there is there's optimism about Hampton returning after just four weeks. and so I feel like you need at least a week to get clarity and there's a chance that that week gives you none so it's just a little bit
Starting point is 00:19:19 to me it's just a little bit of a mess because it's very short term and I don't know that you can trust how long have we had no Echler in Washington how many weeks? Three? Quite a while. Yeah, I mean...
Starting point is 00:19:32 So that's a good example of like people benched Chikori Kreisky Merritt last week because he didn't get opportunities two weeks before. It was in the middle of... week two. Yeah. So, like, that is the kind of the template that I'm seeing right now in Los Angeles, is that
Starting point is 00:19:45 if you played Chris Rodriguez or you played Jacorio Cross Camer, it hurts you for two weeks, and then finally you play the wrong guy or you sit one guy down, and then by the time that's done, Hampton's back, that's my worry. There is a chance. There's an opportunity, but I think it's going to be on the arm of Herbert more often than not. Probably true. I think
Starting point is 00:20:02 they will have to put it, put the ball in Herbert's hands. The schedule coming up, the dolphins, Colts, Vikings and Titans are the four weeks that Hampton will for sure miss. All right. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com. Aggressive casualty insurance
Starting point is 00:20:20 company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations coverage subject to policy terms limiting conditions. We'll take a break. We'll preview the Thursday night game. All right. The 4 and 1 Philadelphia Eagles, who we We talked about a little bit with AJ Brown. Thursday Night Breakdown.
Starting point is 00:20:47 You were saying, Andy? I'd like to pretend I was setting the table for the drop. I wasn't. Yeah, thank you. Thank you very much. Got it. Does it feel more appropriate to talk about the game now? I think it's a perfect time.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Because it probably felt pretty bad before. I was like, what are you doing? Yeah. What night? What game? What's happening? How about I start over? The Eagles are four and one, and they're taking on the one and four New York Giants.
Starting point is 00:21:13 The Philadelphia Eagles are seven-point road favorites here. The over-under is 40 and a half. This game makes me really want to believe in an upset. At home in New York, Thursday night, short week, banged up Sequin. Eagles, you know, the offense hasn't been great. The Giants' defense is pretty good. I can't get there. I'd like to, but I can't.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Eagles are heavy favorites in this one, but coming off a loss, they're going to play pretty well. They haven't lost very many games over the last, what, 23, 24 matchups. Giants just looked pretty inept after the strong start against the Saints. Saints get their first win in the year against them. They turned the ball over on five consecutive possessions against the Saints in that game. It was crazy. You know, Jackson Dart is a reasonably okay fantasy. player because he's running the football but against this defense in super flex leagues maybe because
Starting point is 00:22:12 I think he's a quarterback too I don't think you would start him you know I think in the right 12 I think in the right matchup you could definitely yes yes yes I'm not in this one no the issue for him is is just turnovers I mean like the the saints were able to do it because it's like his his stat line 202 passing yards two passing touchdowns 55 I don't what I did someone hit the button for me I don't got it Thank you. Fifty-five rushing yards. All of those numbers turned into the quarterback 16 because of turnovers. So that is an issue that I, the Eagles are going to be,
Starting point is 00:22:52 Eagles are going to take that ball away. Yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's very fair. And then, you know, Cam Scataboo. He's a must start in every matchup. What about Tyrone Tracy? They're optimistic that Tracy will play. I will personally be starting Cam Scataboo every week until I am shown that Tyrone Tracy is 50-50 with him or Tyrone Tracy is back to the lead. I am personally assuming that
Starting point is 00:23:21 Cam Scataboo is going to be the lead guy here, especially in the first week back for Tyrone Tracy. The opportunities, the workload that they've given him, they are using him as their dude. You do have to look at that. It's been really inefficient. for two weeks in a row. It's wild to turn 27 opportunities into 12 fantasy points, 22 opportunities into 11.4 fantasy points. But then you look at those targets,
Starting point is 00:23:45 six receptions last week. You know, Jackson Darts only started for two weeks, so yeah, I think I'm with you. I would have, I think I would have originally tried to shy away from the Philly matchup, but those opportunity numbers are too big. And no Slayton
Starting point is 00:24:00 could turn into even more checkdowns. Yeah, I think it's a little Jordan Humphrey coming up to play. All right. They're running out of the past catching people. And you saw, like, even the last game that Tyrone Tracy played in, that was eight targets were still to Camp Scadaboo. So I'm not going away. I don't expect Cam Scadaboo to have some monstrously awesome game and have easy touchdowns against Great Phillies defense. But when you touch the ball that many times, you should have a baseball team. Yes, nice. It was. It was. It was an apostrophe S.
Starting point is 00:24:37 It was Philly's. The Phillies. The Phillies good defense. Yeah. Sorry. Theo Johnson would be. What about Theo? He's the one like beneficiary.
Starting point is 00:24:47 The target totals, again, you like that. They don't have a lot of other players. Yeah, you're still trying to find tendencies of Jackson Dart and five. I'm cool with it. Five and seven. I mean, I'm cool with the dart. 25% of targets two weeks ago, 18%. The Eagles are very good against tight end.
Starting point is 00:25:03 The Eagles are very good against tight in. So I had claims in, just brought up my personal tight-in struggles, and I put claims in on Miaosa Taylor and on Theo Johnson. And I put them in that order, specifically partially because of the matchup this week. This is not a good matchup for Theo Johnson. The Phillies defense has been top five for a long time against tight ends. That's not a good exploitable matchup. And then you also look at like, you know, Theo this season, he hasn't had 35 yards in a game yet. at. I do like him. I would be fine picking him up and stashing him, but I don't, I'm not willing to
Starting point is 00:25:42 play him against a really good Phillies baseball team. AJ Brown, Devante Smith, you're going to play him, right? But Giants are basically dead last against whiteouts in the league. You've seen the neutral pass rate go up. They're heavy favorites. AJ Brown should be dominant this week. I just traded away. So I know the pain that's coming. So, you know, Jalen Hertz, they're still 31st in the league in passing yards per game. Jalen Hurts, you're going to play him. Sequoan, you're going to play him. Dallas Goddert, he scored a touchdown in three straight games.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Is he okay? He is okay. I'd rather play him than Theo Johnson. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, right now he's the tight end eight on the season, and he missed week two. So he's been involved. Last week, it was really touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:26:30 The last three weeks has been touchdowns. has done it for him. Week one, though, you saw him involved in the past game, seven targets, seven receptions. So I think you could throw him in your lineup. All right. Any other big players in this game that you're looking out for? I feel like we covered them all. No, I think you're good. Sequin, if we didn't say it, Sequin, you know, he had the estimated did not practice Monday. He was limited on Tuesday, so he seems good to go. All right, we are going to move on into our draft redo. Fantasy Footballers Mock Draft.
Starting point is 00:27:08 All right, we are going to go two rounds. How fun. Yeah, fantasy draft redo. I'm not, I didn't do a whole lot of preparation for this. Well, it would be a good time to remind everyone. We do have rest of season rankings. Yeah, you can just go pull those up in. Up on the.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Well, I just mean like thinking about it in terms of the two rounds because I kind of wanted to just see how it felt going into it. Yeah, but it's like this is a bit of. a rest of season type of a thing and those rankings are available, the fantasy footballers.com if you are interested. All right, Mike, you have the first pick
Starting point is 00:27:41 in our fantasy draft redo the first two rounds. If you were drafting today... I'm so happy you have the first pick. There's two guys who I think should be in contention. And I want to know which one you pick. For the first pick. Jason gets the second pick. Cool. I don't get either one. And for me
Starting point is 00:27:58 it's not one's a running back, one's a wide receiver. So I'm going to take the running back. Interesting. I'm going to take Jonathan Taylor. Oh, wow. I think that Jonathan Taylor is the number one fantasy player. Those are not either of the two names that I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Jonathan Taylor. Were they either of the two names for you? I'm going to be honest, they weren't. But I'm excited because I got Jonathan Taylor and League of record. And he has been utterly dominant, used around the goal line, used in the passing game, and also just looks like Christian McCaffrey can be in conversation for this. He's just so involved. But he hasn't looked.
Starting point is 00:28:33 He's not one of the names either. No, he wasn't either for me. I mean, for me, it's Bijan and Puka. Yep, those are the two. So I'll take whoever you don't take. To me, Puka is the number one, by the way. He's the number one over over up there. It's Jonathan Taylor or Pooka for me.
Starting point is 00:28:47 You will get the number one at number three. I'm going to take Bijon Robinson. I think that the running back position is still the most important position right now. I mean, we're two years in a row here where it's like you look at your leagues and you say, who's doing great, and it's the ones that have these dominant running backs. Yeah, I feel like Pooka's in a tier of his own, and that's why I think he belongs at number one in the same way that Chase was treated this offseason.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I'll take Pukunakua at number three. His steadiness combined with the big weak upside, it's awesome. So nothing wrong with any of those picks in any order. Pukunakua will be my selection at number three. Man, he is dominating. Yeah, yeah. And we were talking yesterday. There were a couple leagues, like our listener league,
Starting point is 00:29:35 which we're doing all right in right now. But like I took Puka at, I believe, eight. At eight, yes. And it was ahead of Jefferson. It was ahead of Amun-Ross, St. Brown, and some other player that people thought I should have taken ahead of him. And the reaction to that was like, it just is an example of the draft season
Starting point is 00:29:53 because there's plenty of other picks I made that were bad in every league. But in the reaction of like, this guy should be in this order. It's all stupid five weeks into the year. It was crazy when you took Pucca over Justin Jefferson. It was like, you know what? I'm going to pull the trigger here. But Puka is like when we talk about the next tier of wide receivers, it is a tier down from what Puka has been doing.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And Puka hasn't even been doing it with touchdowns. But like, I love Amman Ra. I love JSN. I love Jefferson. And I don't know how high Buka goes. I don't know how high C.D. Lam should, you know, if he's only missing one more game, maybe he's the wide receiver one after that. I don't know. We'll find out. But all of those guys do not feel like in the same class as what Puka is doing weekend, week out right now.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Back to you, Mike. I will take Christian McCaffrey. Christian McCaffrey at number four. Is the running back two and has zero rushing touchdowns. Imagine the world where Christian McCaffrey is doing this, but occasionally scoring a rushing touchdown here or there. Yeah, that would just be like the other years that he was the best. Yeah, the run block. I don't know if the run blocking ever. actually improves for the 49ers this year, but the volume will be there and
Starting point is 00:31:05 receiving touchdowns. He has three of them and the targets are just he's averaging over 10 targets a game. You give that to your wide receiver one on your team and you're very, very happy. It's redonculus. It's absolutely... It is.
Starting point is 00:31:22 It is truly redonculus. And it doesn't seem sustainable, but it might be. It just might be. It's sustainable until it's not all right so am i back on the clock you are i'm between two players um yeah i've got the one i've got the one you want i i'll just say the two players since this isn't you know we're we're not building rosters here no i am personally between omina ross st brown who has just been after week ones dodd just a machine yeah to me he's the the second wide receiver he's running very
Starting point is 00:31:53 hot with touchdown he is but he also is used around the goal line so much and the lines are the goal line so much. So it's a nice combination. And Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs, one of the things, you know, that you do keep in mind when you're making rest of season rankings, when you're looking at trades, Andy brought this up yesterday's, he's passes by now.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So, you know, almost every other player has a game missing. And so if I'm looking at the value of those, he is the running back I would take. I'm, I, when I, when I, when I lay that both cases out, there are
Starting point is 00:32:29 running backs that are closer to Josh Jacobs to me than there are wide receivers closer to Amon Raw. So I'm going to go Amin Raugh. Yeah, I'll go back to back Lions. It won't be Jacobs for me. It'll be Jemir Gibbs. I will take Jemir Gibbs. I think Jacobs is in the running there, but I know what I have in Gibbs. I also know that there's an in, like I think Gibbs with Montgomery in the backfield is a slightly better play
Starting point is 00:32:53 than Jacobs' rest of the season. And what if Montgomery is out? So to me, like, Gibbs on that roster, the way that they're cooking, I think Gibbs is the pick for me. Those two running backs have a built-in nuclear option, which is so cool to have them and just know if either one of those. You're saying Montgomery and Gibbs. Yeah, David Montgomery and Gibbs, obviously Gibbs far more so. I like to visualize that if like somebody gets hurt, they walk over to the other guy and give them this vial full of their power. And then they load that power into themselves and
Starting point is 00:33:24 accumulate double this dance. I mean, if David Montgomery went down, is the running back one. He would be the running back one from that point forward. But if Gibbs went down, I think Montgomery could be the running back one. Top top ten. Top ten. Oh, he would definitely be top ten. I'll give you top ten. I'll give you top eight. I will take top five. I mean, he has had, he's had up, I mean, he did have a lot of career without Jamir Gibbs. Not on the lions, though. He didn't have any without Gibbs on the lines. I thought he had one year without him. No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:33:59 all right am I back up you are back up Mike all right yeah pick seven somehow it feels disappointing and I'm taking Sequin Barclay he's that's where he is in my rest of season rankings but just behind Jamir Gibbs
Starting point is 00:34:16 it's been disappointing the huge runs have not been there perhaps perhaps the data nerds are correct of it was just too much of a workload last year for Sequin Barclay but he is still for the most part really coming through and I think that things can improve for him and the Eagles are stable. Like the other guys have, there's going to be some question
Starting point is 00:34:41 marks on the team and the offense. The Eagles are going to be in it for the long run. So I will take Barclay. Yeah, I don't mind. It makes this pick obviously easy for me since last time I was up I was between Amman Ra and Josh Jacobs. I would, you know, Jacobs and Gibbs, I think that is really, really, really close. Jacobs and Barkley is close as well, but I have two other guys, two other running backs I would take before Jacobs. Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously hot and bothered for Jacobs, which is why I went out and traded for him and hopefully it comes to fruition, but I'll take Jacobs here. All right, Josh Jacobs goes with the eighth pick. So we've had three straight running backs, Gibbs, Jacobs, I think there will be a four straight running back. I'm
Starting point is 00:35:20 just trying to think through the wide receivers. No, I actually will pivot. I will pivot. I I obviously think Jefferson is worthy of the pick here, but I'm actually going to go Jackson Smith and Jigba. Yeah, he's one spot higher for me. I'm going to take JAS in. He is currently, I think, fifth and points per game at the wide receiver position. You know, Abuca is ahead of him. A dunze is ahead of them right now,
Starting point is 00:35:40 but obviously you're not just looking at what they've done so far. Jefferson, I think, is going to get cooking as he always does. It was between those two at wide receiver for me, actually. So I will go with Jackson Smith and Jigba, put some respect on the name of the player that has truly been dominant. Yeah, and I will follow it up with Justin Jefferson. Yeah, that would have.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Who he does, he has the variable. He has the J.J. McCarthy variable. Um, not that things go to absolute to poo-poo town should McCarthy come back and be the starter. Week one, when everything was awful for the Minnesota Vikings, and McCarthy looked terrible, 44 and a score. Like I said, not the worst possible thing. But then with Carson,
Starting point is 00:36:25 Wentz these past two weeks, 126, 123 yards. His worst game is here is 3 for 81 with McCarthy, and that was still not a bet. And I believe that McCarthy, should he come back and get the job, will improve over the course of the season. Jefferson is just, he is that good. I was looking forward to drafting Jefferson here if you didn't, so. One of the reasons why that team is good and the head coach is good and the quarterbacks have success is because they target their best players relentlessly all the time strategically, unlike the Cardinals who I think they do target their best players.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Marvin Harrison had 78 receiving yards on the first two drives of that game and I think wasn't targeted on the final 30-something plays. It's just so ridiculous. Public PSA here. Yes. For all the-PSA. For news outlets out there when you're breaking something that says, and it comes through on my phone.
Starting point is 00:37:22 so we got small and it says Jonathan Gannon being fined it's too close to fired way too close I read the same thing because I would just like oh my gosh he got fired
Starting point is 00:37:35 it's like we did it the Arizona Cardinals have fired Jonathan Gannon you're like oh we took $100,000 from you need to remove all the money remove all the money that would be the firing yes well it doesn't
Starting point is 00:37:49 no it doesn't remove the money he still gets it all you know what's interesting is that it wasn't the NFL. Right. I actually thought the fine was from the NFL. It was the Cardinals. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:59 It's just interesting. They were like, ooh, I can save some money. Now, what if? Yeah. Oh, that is not surprising. Yeah. He's like, why didn't you hit him twice? Now that you bring it up, the bidwells being able to reclaim $100,000. Oh, man. They were so happy. They were so excited about that.
Starting point is 00:38:18 All right. All right. Jason, you're back on the clock at 11. Jefferson just went off the board. This one is interesting. This is my last pick of the first round here of the top 12 picks. I've been looking at the different running backs who I would take here. There are still some great players. James Cook has been on fire. Devon H.N. has been very consistent, but doesn't, his ceiling hasn't been there. At wide receiver, you got Nico, Egbuka. I don't know how high he'll go. Drake London has been involved. You know, there's all these guys. But when push comes to shove, I was really thinking about this because I have this player. And I was like, would I trade them right now, straight up for those names I just said, and I would not. And it's C.D. Lamb. Okay. C.D. Lamb, I'm going to miss a game. That sucks. Um, I, you know, I. So much for getting past the buy week. Well, everyone, most all players were drafting still have a buy week. So I'm just missing an additional game this week. And that's presumed he could still play this. Every man. Um, but yeah, I, I, you know, when, when we look at what DAC has been doing and you look at league winners. Guys who can go, guys who can really go ham and score 30 points. You know, the first two weeks, he was a top 12 wide receiver without touchdowns,
Starting point is 00:39:32 over 110 yards both weeks, then gets injured. And so since that time, Dax's been great, Pickens has been great. I think Citi will be awesome. And thank goodness that Dallas Cowboys defense is as bad as it is.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It is so nice. All right. Lamb was on the board, probably not next for me, but I'll go with Devon A. Chan. I think A. Chan, I'm going to take over Cook. I think the baseline is better for him, the receiving work. We've only had one game without Tyreek Hill. He was very good. And that one, he'll be very good for a long time. And he plays the wide receiver position. I mean, he really does. He went up and had a full wide receiver-esque. Meet him at the top. Catch it over two guys in the end zone. That pass. I saw a tweet. I apologize. I don't remember who it had it. But it was such. a great tweet said don't let the incredible pass by Tua or the incredible catch by Achan distract you from the fact that on like a third and eight from the goal line they drew up a running back fade in the back of the end zone which is a really bad design but the play was awesome but it was like really that's the best you got a fade to your tiny running back yeah
Starting point is 00:40:45 yeah they should you know yeah Devon Aachan number 12 rounds out our first round Taylor Robinson Nakua, CMC, Almanraa, Gibbs, Barkley, Jacobs, J.S.N. Jefferson, Lamb, and A. Chan. Let's see how that compares to the ADP of how it was a while ago. You want to see? It's not bad. Jamar Chase was the 101. Obviously, he's gone. I thought you were going to give us where these guys went. We can look at that. Bejohn went next, Barkley, Gibbs. So those guys are about the same. Justin Jefferson, C.D. Lamb, Christian McCaffrey. Derek Henry.
Starting point is 00:41:23 That's six straight that are in the same 12. So Derek Henry is a faller. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Alman Ross St. Brown is in there. Ashton Gentie. Yeah. So Gentie and Henry are fallers, neighbors is injured, and Puka was the last one.
Starting point is 00:41:35 It's funny because Gentie is not, I mean, he's getting drafted in this next round. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not far off. The involvement in the receiving game now and the step up for him. Mike, you're back on the clock. First pick of the second round. it's James Cook I would take both A-chan and James
Starting point is 00:41:51 Cook over Josh Jacobs personally James, or I'm sorry James Cook obviously it's not perfect because he can still have some dud games but he is he looks so incredible he did not take the bag and decide that he would just ride off into the sunset with all his money
Starting point is 00:42:11 he took it seriously yeah I think James Cook was was probably the next man up on my list as Well, last three picks, Lamb, A-Chann, James Cook. We'll take a break. We'll finish it out. Mr. Moore, Jason, you are on the clock.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Man, every running back left, there's a lot of good running backs that all have big question marks for me. I don't know how high to take them. So I'm going to take the stud wide receivers that are left. It's worth noting. Trey McBride, still available. All the tight ends have not been
Starting point is 00:42:47 taken yet, but I'm going to take Nico Collins here. He's still a stud, he's getting it done. He has been disappointing for sure, as the Texan's offense has been disappointing, but he is an awesome fantasy asset. If I was in the draft, the truth is, I would take a mecca
Starting point is 00:43:03 Abuka above Nico Collins. That was the, that was where I'm looking between Nico and Abuca. And Drake London, those three to me. Yeah, no, it's fair. And Nico has been, I think, a little bit quietly consistent because the offense had been struggling, but now two weeks in a row, they've been looking better.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I will take them at Abuca. At 15, which is a, yeah, that's just a wild moment of reflection. I'm not saying it's wrong, that's wild. And just on a personal level, I think he's my favorite player in the game of football. He's so good. I love, like I said it yesterday, I love the Buckingier so much.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I love Baker, I love Abuka, I love Bucky, I love Bucky, I love Evans, I love that team. I love Todd Bowles. He was an Arizona guy. We are going to, that is going to move into second place. Final ADP, final ADP picks 84, 85, and 86 in the eighth round was rookie wide receiver, Rookie Wide Receiver, Emeka, Bucca, and Matthew Golden back to back after Travis ETN. So these...
Starting point is 00:44:10 84, 85, 86 you're saying? Yeah, eighth round pick, Emeka, Bucca is now a top 15 selection. We were looking in our listener league where you and I were four or five picks apart in the fifth or six round. I took Abuka. I was so angry when you took him because that was my mind. And then you ended up with golden five picks later. And the feeling between those two right now. The gap is like one is a superstar.
Starting point is 00:44:32 One is a second round pick and one's on the waiver wire. Yeah. Yeah. So Mike, you're back on the clock. Pick 16. Abuk was off the board. It gets a little harder now. It definitely gets a bit harder. So I will.
Starting point is 00:44:46 that running back four in points per game when will he be drafted yeah i know i i keep looking at his name and i'm like not yet is someone going to do it yeah i'm gonna i don't have the snows to do that so i'll just take kairn williams please carin what so he's talking he's alluding to givante williams the name he who should not be named um but it is uh it's a conversation at some point yeah it's it's funny because i think But I think Derek Henry on the board versus Jivante, that'd be a really hard pick.
Starting point is 00:45:19 It would. Derek Henry, Brees Hall, Buckie Irving, who I know he's injured, but he was awesome. It's like, would you really take Javante Williams over those guys in a startup? Like, is the rug going to get pulled? I don't think. It doesn't feel like it, man. It really doesn't. I'm not taking any of them, though.
Starting point is 00:45:37 We did just get real quick news. Tyrone Tracy, no injury designation. Good to go for Thursday. Cool. Okay. I will go back to the wide receiver position. and take Drake London. I saw Nico Ibuka and Drake London kind of in that same tier. Interesting. You'll go, all right. You would, I mean, you're a Garrett-Welson guy. Is that who you're saying?
Starting point is 00:45:57 That is. It was a slow nod of approval by Mike. Yes, yes. I'm glad you got the name right away. Look, it was you. Yeah, I wouldn't have thought. I'm going to take Josh Allen. I'm taking Josh Allen at 18. The number one every year, practically, at the position is the number one again. I mean, Josh Allen, what he and Lamar, who's hurt, I mean, Lamar would have been in the discussion. At some point, a quarterback's going to go here. The differential to my team is significant with Josh Allen in the mid to late second round. And when you have that player on the team, they can win you the week. I mean, Josh Allen can win you a week anytime. He does it frequently.
Starting point is 00:46:34 I think that's where the line is drawn. Because the next big names up there is Derek Henry who's been a little disappointing. Don't know what's wrong with Lamar Jackson, Ashton, Jentie. Okay, Judkins, so a couple of rookies. or the guaranteed commodity of Josh Allen. To me, that was the time. I think that the right place to take the known commodities at quarterback is when everyone else now has a big question mark.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Yeah. And that's, you know... We're right around there. Is Javante real? Is Derek Henry falling off? You know, those type of questions. So, yeah, I don't blame you taking a QB here. All right, Mike, you're next up here.
Starting point is 00:47:09 We've got a handful of picks left. I think you got two more... We all got two more picks left. I would just make sure that this man gets the respect. think he deserves. So I will take Garrett Wilson right here. It might not be pretty. No, no. He might not want to watch it. Fourth quarter
Starting point is 00:47:24 magic with Justin Fields. Garrett Wilson's great player. He just he needs to be on when Fields has his like every other terrible play, good play. We just need the good play to go to Garrett. Man, there is though, there's another wide receiver that
Starting point is 00:47:42 I there's a handful. I almost took over Garrett. I just can't do it. Quentin Johnson? No. No, no, no. I know. Not that far. I think I know who you would be taking, and it might be my pick here. All right. I'm just looking. Would I really take them over these running backs? That is tough. No, I wouldn't. I think I'm going to end up going with some of these questionable running backs. And while I do think Derek Henry is still good this season, I'm actually going to go Breece Hall. I think with the- That's fine by me. With the injury to Braylon Allen. Back-to-back Jets. Brees Hall has looked really good. I'm taking Justin Field. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah, Breast isn't a strange name because it's a lot more exciting to take Gentie or Judkins or Henry. But Brease has been really effective and very good and involved in the passing game. I don't mind it. I think for me the pick is actually quench on Judkins. I am fine with that. I think I'm going to take Judkins here. Yes, Javante's out there and Bucky with the injury.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I'd love to take Bucky there. I don't know how long he's going to really be out. Only four more picks. I mean, so many of these guys are not making it in the top 20. No, I mean, Judkins has been a top 12 running back in the three weeks he's played any snaps. The Judkins situation is so insane. Of everything that happened.
Starting point is 00:49:05 You thought maybe he didn't play in the NFL? Yeah, of how the pick was perfect for the Cleveland Browns in terms of the player that they needed, the archetype he was going late going in the middle of redraft which felt awesome and then his whole off-to-field DA allegations and it's like and those are they're gone now and I there's no more chatter at all about suspension yeah I know it's like I haven't heard anything of the NFL coming the NFL does not let even even what happened of it okay went away the NFL doesn't let those things slide. Yeah, I mean, maybe
Starting point is 00:49:42 that, I mean, to give, to be fair to the situation, you'd have to say that if, if things didn't happen or things got settled out, like you, like you said, if the league doesn't let it slide and the lead isn't addressing it, then maybe something different happened that we don't understand and know, and you just have to accept
Starting point is 00:50:00 it, but it is a crazy change from where we were. Three picks left, Mike, your final selection here. I'm going to do it. I'm taking Giovante. Okay. Just just let his points wash over you. The Dallas offense. Second round picks,
Starting point is 00:50:14 Emeka, Buka, Giovante Williams, baby. What are you going to do, man? What are you, this far in, I feel like you have to do it. I feel like you need to buy into what Javante's doing. Javante in the second round, and then this guy went in the second round. And you've got to give credit to this rookie sensation,
Starting point is 00:50:32 wide receiver out of Ohio State. Emeka, a big boo. Egg bag boo I need the cut of just the name too I need to be able to hit that anytime I want Now they all have ear pieces in What was the John Travolta when he was saying
Starting point is 00:50:51 Adele de Zeme Amica a beg boo They all have the earpiece in right You as a producer of that show It's a buca You know that it's gronk It's a buca man You need to tell him hey
Starting point is 00:51:02 Pause right before you say it We will say it in your ear maybe they did and then repeat maybe they did and that's still what we got that was incredible just too funny goodness grace could not have slaughtered it could not have slaughtered it yeah let's uh and you gotta give credit to this
Starting point is 00:51:19 rookie sensation wide receiver out of Ohio State emika a big boo I can listen to that a hundred times I really I really could all right we have Jason not even remotely close all right I've got four names Jason I have curious six. I'm curious if these four are on your list of six. All right, let me hear him.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Derek Henry. Derek Henry is one of, I've got three running backs. Rome is on my list. Rome was the name that that's what I struggled. Quinn Johnson? Quinn Johnson is not on my list. Jamar Chase is on there. So my list, my three running backs are Derek Henry, Ashen Gentie, and Travis E.T. Not Bucky Irving. I guess not. I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:58 Bucky is in that group for sure, but being injured, it's hard to take him. Um, Jemar Chase, Roma Dunesay, and Devante Adams. who's just getting it done as you know and I think he will continue to it's really tough if I was going to really take one of those picks right here right now I would you should probably go with Emika a big boo it doesn't it doesn't get it doesn't get familiar it's not like oh I've heard this I'm here we went at 12 it was 8chan cook was 13 Niko was 14 at 15 we went and you got to give credit to Wrong one. Emika, a big boo. And then it was Kairn, London, Alan, Wilson,
Starting point is 00:52:40 Breeze Hall, Judkins, and Giovante. All right. Who are you taking? I'm going to take the fun pick. I'm going to take Ashen Gentie. Okay. I don't think that's wrong at all. I mean, that's a good pick.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I'll put Derek Henry in it with the final spot at the second round and try to keep the context. I mean, Sequin went higher in this draft than I thought, and that was part of keeping the context that we're five weeks in. Yes. We know what the power of those two players. was over the last Henry freaks me out more
Starting point is 00:53:09 because Henry like Sequin like I said Eagles stable Ravens big big trouble and for they just whatever offensive stuff they are doing they just whenever they go to pass mode they feel like we got to put Justice Hill on the field which
Starting point is 00:53:25 I understand you you got to utilize his skill set but there are so many times on third and short and Justice Hill is out there and I think it is just such a travesty and stupid. In ours, no Bucky, no Jemar Chase, no Devante Adams, no Romadunes A, no ETN, and no tight ends. And no huge. Yeah, it's
Starting point is 00:53:45 no tight ends, though, is a, it's a tough one. All right, we are going to jump into the mailbag. Mailbag. Mailbag. Presented by NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. If you got a question for the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. click that submit a question button, or you can dial our voicemail hotline.
Starting point is 00:54:09 That number is 302-464 TFFB. First question from Georgian Kansas City. Would you trade Darren Waller and... Emeka a big boo. For Puka Nakua. Oh. Oh. So this is great.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Yeah, this is great. This is great because they already have Tram McBride. Then, yeah. Absolutely. I literally on the drive into work today as a manager of Emika Egg Big Bo as a manager
Starting point is 00:54:41 He's going to start screwing us A buca I thought You know I could go maybe Like what if I could get puka In a trade where I give Egg Buka And more for Puka
Starting point is 00:54:53 Yeah You can go Don't you have Waller? And I do have Waller Yeah But I don't think I did I actually just was like
Starting point is 00:55:01 I like a Bucca too much But you should do the trade. Yeah, no, it's a great trade. And I don't think we've brought up Darren Waller enough. Number one in points per game at tight-in. He is, so I went back for the Dynasty show that came out today. If you are in Dynasty, listen to the Fantasy Footballers' Dynasty podcast. I did a film review of the Dolphins minus Tyree Kill.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I just watched every snap over again yesterday to just see how did the offense look. And my big takeaway was just like. like, holy crap, Darren Waller looks amazing. Yeah, he looks fast. He looks like their best weapon. Like, the passes to Darren Waller were those were their best place. He looked so fast, big, strong. And he was only on the field, you know, half the snaps.
Starting point is 00:55:48 And they're going to keep working him in more and more and more. I mean, I... What did the snap count get up to? I think it was like 50. I was guessing it would be in the 45 range. Was it higher than that? Yeah, I think it was 50 to... I think it was in the 50s. Oh, baby. Let's go. So his first week was 28% this last week was 58%
Starting point is 00:56:05 5 for 78 used downfield used on those seam routes I mean we saw this with Jonu Smith You know that he's telling the truth Jason is because he would love to get Darren Waller for me in our league of record And he's not pretending like the tape was bad Yeah yeah I mean he's telling the truth
Starting point is 00:56:24 And I think you know You're not going to like this either But I think this is the cheaper time you can get Darren Waller I agree with that I think he's going to get more expensive. If he, you know, over the next month, if he has three good games. He is heating up, as they say. Yeah, if he has three good games over the next month, then all of a sudden at that
Starting point is 00:56:43 point, you're going to be looking at him, like, who would you, you know, who's the best tied in right now? Like, literally, who was, who did you want number one? I would say Tray McBride, it's been a little disappointing. Yeah, Tray McBride's been a little this point. It's certainly not going to be Kincaid rest of season or God or rest of the season. It could be Tyler Warren. I think it's probably Warren.
Starting point is 00:57:01 It could be, honestly, it's George Kittle. Like, when George Kittle comes back, he's going to... What's wild is Warren's been good, but it's not insane. But no type of has been insane. Like, the points scored by Waller in the last two games, both outscore any Warren game. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Waller is in that conversation. Like, when I look at who's the best tight ends to have rest of season, he's there.
Starting point is 00:57:25 And that sucks for me to say. We all, we need that program. The ramp that he was on? Oh, dude. Yeah. Goofo. He thought we would never play that drop again. He may legitimately have a shot at being the best tight-in in football for the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:57:41 That's fun. Not saying that's guaranteed. McBride should be in the mix. Someone asked Sam in New York asked, would you trade Tyler Warren for Tray McBride straight up? I would do that. I would rather have McBride. I would too. I think it will be.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Now, we did just get news. Kyleor Murray and the foot injury Not practicing Well thankfully He should be okay Thankfully Jacoby Brissette is a capable backup That can get the ball to these players I don't feel like that is
Starting point is 00:58:11 In the maybe in terms of the Arizona Cardinals' offense Because he doesn't have the mobility Kyler has But as far as the pocket passing I don't think it's a major step down For the receiving options of McBride Or Marve Yeah, okay
Starting point is 00:58:26 Moving on Next question comes in Oh we have a voicemail Let's go to that one Hey ballers Waddle owner from Toronto here Just wondering what you think of him What did we think our long-term outlook on Waddle is
Starting point is 00:58:41 Should we sell high while he's still healthy Or do you think you last the season Who are you looking for? Tet maybe I mean what do you think Yeah I mean Bonjour Bonjour yeah I think
Starting point is 00:58:52 I think Waddle's going to be great So yeah the question is how are we feeling temperature check here on Jalen Waddle, who even those first few weeks where Tyreek was playing, he was getting it done, and then that was the first week, full week without Tyreek, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Which he's always been... Six for one, ten. He's been really good in those situations. And a touchdown. He is an awesome, awesome player who his issue has never been skill. It is just his body. Doesn't love to play football. Did you see him again this week? Did it happen again?
Starting point is 00:59:25 on the first play. I missed that one. Al and I were watching it and nothing happened to Waddle. Nothing happened whatsoever. I didn't. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. He wasn't even, I don't even think it was tackled. He was down in agony. When I was rewatching the Dolphins film, it literally the like the pro-n NFL recap, I didn't even know they did this, but it was like, you know, pass, complete left to Jalen Waddle exits with injury. It was like, oh, Waddle. Good. Good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah, we all like Waddle. So Waddle or Tett McMillan, which side do you prefer? So I've got a hundred-degree low-grade fever on Jalen Waddle. I think he's necessary to this offense. I really like him. I'm like 104 for Tett. Yeah. Like I think Tett is going to help people win championships at the end of the year.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I still need to be convinced. I would love to be on that team. It's one of those things where it's like the peripheral of the Carolina Panthers offense and the... Yeah, Bryce. and Bryce and the fact that he can be he can make a good pass he could get the stink for two sacks the stink of Bryce is why Tett is what he is right now but I mean this is a rookie who through his first five games is on pace for 1,200 yards in his rookie season yeah I mean and that's good that's good but it's also like Bryce is
Starting point is 01:00:45 Bryce is keeping Tett's price down but Bryce has supported remember you know Adam feeling old man Adam Thielen. Yeah. Bryce got it done with him. The touchdowns haven't been there. And it's not like he's finishing with no touchdowns. It was better with Dalton. Dalton got Deante Johnson and Thielen cooking.
Starting point is 01:01:04 It's just, it's a little hard for me to be all the way there is all I'm saying. I understand. You're talking about like rest of season, total yardage. I would put a bet on Waddle over Tet on total yardage on total yardage. On total yard. I mean, because you brought up the yard projection. I'm just saying like more touchdowns, I think, Waddle probably scores more touchdowns?
Starting point is 01:01:24 I would, I think Waddle probably has more touchdowns, Tett has more yardage. That's how I would see it. It's, yeah, it's going to be, it's a pretty close one. If you're in any league with a Keeper League or a Dynasty League, and that trade is on the table, I would definitely be on the Tett side of that. I think rest of the season this year, it's a little bit tougher for me, but I get it. I get buying in. That's interesting, because, I mean, Tyreeks should be gone.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah. Like next year, I think it will, well, number one. Their head coach and the quarterback. Yeah, that's true. It'll be a, they'll probably clean the house. So we'll see. There are, I don't know, sometimes the team still looks okay this year to me. Like Miami, I'll give, if this is credit, I don't know if it is or not.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I guess I would have thought that the team would have quit by now. And I don't see the team quitting. I think the team has been okay. They've had stretches, they've had victories that, you know, what are they right now? Are they two and three? Are they one and four? I would have to go check. Dolphins standings, dolphins are one and four.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I'll tell you what I'm going to put this out in the universe should Mr. McDaniel lose his current occupation Arizona will take you as an offensive coordinator offensive coordinator
Starting point is 01:02:36 and honestly instantaneously yes if you while you're walking out of the office we will send a car to pick you up and you can come to place I will do it yeah we will oh dude I will I'll fly you know what I'll take blobfish to the airport too
Starting point is 01:02:49 I will take Drew Patsing to the airport on my side, and you can bring Mike McDaniel. Next year, McDaniel will go to a team and he will be an O.C., and I will be very interested in that team's offense. Yeah, there are, it's wild because I think the worst coach by a long shot right now in the NFL is Aaron Glenn in New York. Unfortunately, yeah. He's a defensive-minded head coach that went there, made their defense worse and their offense worse and their team undisciplined. Like, you just have to look at what's happening. he's another one of those guys
Starting point is 01:03:22 I'm like, is he just a coordinator? Like, is he just like a dominant defensive coordinator but can't do the whole thing? I don't know. Right. Gets overwhelmed when it's everything. Like I think we are learning and I, Jason and I, we brought this up with Detroit. Like the play calling in Detroit is great.
Starting point is 01:03:36 There's no Ben Johnson. There's trick plays. There's smart plays. There's great play calling. I think that you're at the point now in Detroit, which we never thought we'd be at five, ten years ago. We're the structure and the environment and the head coach and the organization
Starting point is 01:03:48 and the general manager. it is building like Aaron Glenn was there right Aaron Glenn leaves he doesn't look like a good coach you just wonder how much of the structure is really supporting these coaches and that's a credit that's a credit to the best head coaches in football this was Bill Belichick's whole universe and Andy Reid's whole universe yeah it's Reed I mean you have
Starting point is 01:04:06 guys leave and doesn't work yeah the Shanahan tree and all of those guys like sometimes it works out sometimes they're kind of shown to be like hey you don't have all of the it's like the trellis for the vine the trellis isn't there for these guys and Yeah, Mike McDaniel, maybe a better OC. Aaron Glenn, maybe better at D.C. I don't know. But we'll find out. We'll find out if he's got a job next year or not.
Starting point is 01:04:32 One more, Nick from Gulf Breeze, Florida. Okay. That's a cool sounding place. Nico Collins and Tony Pollard for Josh Jacobs. Would you do that? I need a solid running back. I would do that. Yeah, I would definitely do that. Yeah, I think that's fine. Tony Pollard is The arrow is As Tom said it's pointed down
Starting point is 01:04:52 That does not seem weird to me I'm in between It can just be pointed down It doesn't have to be pointing down Yeah I think it can be pointed down It can be pointed down That doesn't sound that Who's okay with pointed over there
Starting point is 01:05:06 Instead of pointing So we've got The child over in the corner is good Did you hear that Jalen Warren is looked up things are really looked up for him right now see that one sounds way weird I mean I don't know if that's a fair example or not I don't either
Starting point is 01:05:24 but it's funny so you're saying if an arrow's on the wall and it's facing downward you can only say it's pointing downward you can't say it's pointed down because it almost means like it's no longer doing that it pointed down past tense
Starting point is 01:05:40 oh you think it's pointed it's pointed it doesn't bother me. Oh, man. When you said, when you... Now, the looked one is hilarious. Yeah. When you gave that example of the... I think I almost got Mike on a spin-taker. I need that on my board. I don't think you do.
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