Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Fantasy Draft Redo + TNF Preview, League Winners - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/8
Episode Date: October 8, 2025Fantasy Football show for Oct 8, 2025. Top 24 players for the rest of the 2025 fantasy football season! Andy, Mike, and Jason make picks in a two-round mock draft! Plus, Week 6 start/sit decisions, Jo...e Flacco trade news, and a preview of Thursday Night Football. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(06:05) Backup Options(10:35) NFL News(26:35) Thursday Night Breakdown: Eagles at Giants(27:00) Fantasy Draft Redo(53:50) Mailbag(54:10) Trade Darren Waller and Emeka Egbuka for Puka?(57:45) Trade Tyler Warren for Trey McBride?(58:35) Jaylen Waddle rest of season value?(01:04:30) Trade Nico Collins and Tony Pollard for Josh Jacobs?Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host.
Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Oh, welcome in.
Welcome to our podcast, the fantasy footballers.
Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway.
maybe you're watching maybe you're listening week six on the way our our own league of record has been hyperactive on the trade front people making decisions apparently five weeks into the year about their futures and whether they think they are contenders or pretenders or planners for next year has been popping we last week i was trying to make a trade where i was basically playing for the
future. Because I'm like, I'm on the bubble. I'm in the playoffs right now, but I didn't have
the team that looked like it could win. And I was then I benched Rico Dowdle and gave you
confidence that you could like you didn't lose. And I, I have withstood victories through the
CD Lamb injury. And so then last night I decided I found a good deal where I sold some of my
future assets and I'm in now. And then that inspired Papa Josh to say, well, I'll, I'll
I'll see your...
Through these picks.
He's like, are we going to be alive tomorrow?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I think he's quitting the league after this year because he traded all of next year's draft, basically.
Yeah, he went all in.
So, yeah, we've had a lot of trade stuff going on.
We had the waiver wire just go through.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, we have to bring this up.
Josh, thank you for reminding us.
You know, when you get the alert and you're like, and it's for sleep, we play on sleeper, yeah.
Trade has been accepted.
You're like, everyone wants to go see.
What is this?
So, this is last night we all scramble, fire it open.
Yeah, big trade.
Big trade has gone through.
Jason got Josh Jacobs.
And Jason responds to his own trade.
Yeah.
With white guy blinking gift.
Yeah, you're not allowed to do that.
And we're like, wait, hold on.
It couldn't surprise you.
Yeah, no, it did.
You were surprised by your own trade.
This was.
You're like, whoa, look at this trade that I did.
Yeah, well, it was one of those things where I had made this offer.
It was my co-manager and I.
We were in the office.
You sent the offer.
But I sent plenty of offers, okay?
And I don't always expect them to go through.
They must be bad because not many of your trades go through.
Yeah, exactly.
That's the point.
And so then I just saw a trade has been completed.
And like I was saying, I was kind of on the bubble.
Am I in going for this year?
Am I not?
And then it was like, oh, okay, it went through.
I guess I'm in.
So yeah, that was me being surprised.
It's like when a dog farts.
And it's like, whoa, yes.
Who did that?
Yeah, that's, we were all trying to figure out who put this trade through.
Oh, my gosh.
It did throw me off because when I saw the gift, I was like, oh, it must not involve you.
And the trade, congratulations.
For those wondering, I traded A.J. Brown.
Who was my tradeaway candidate?
And my second round pick and Travis Hunter for Josh Jacobs, my trade for candidate.
And Chris O'Lobbe.
Yeah, it was good trade.
It was.
For our league, good trade.
Have you seen those neutral?
neutral pass rates for the Eagles
over the last five weeks. Oh, they got to be
they were passing a lot last week. But I'm not logged into Twitter.
Oh. So you'll need to pull up Matthew Betts's. Pull up Matthew Betts's tweet and
read these off for a second. Good look. Going 2FA on that
live. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Possible. Look, I was having computer problems. I cleared
all my cookies. It was the worst mistake of my life. Worst mistake of my
now I can't do anything. Eagles neutral
there you go. Pass rate by week. Yep.
36% barf, 38% barf, 59% okay, 69% okay, 62% okay, 79%.
So they were, they were, how'd that work out for them?
Well, win, win, win, loss is how it's worked out for their record.
Yeah, so I think things will get better for AJ Brown.
I agree.
No question.
He's so difficult right now.
Yeah, he is.
And I think Josh Jacobs is great moving forward.
So it'll be fun.
We got a jam pack show.
We've got backup options.
We've got NFL news, including the big trade that happened moments after we finished recording yesterday with Joe Flacko.
We have Thursday night preview, and we'll be talking more about them Eagles.
And then we're going to do a 2025 fantasy draft redo.
And I think we got some mailbag, too, right?
Yes, sir.
We've got it all.
We'll be here all day long.
Congratulations right now.
The DAC stack is in the lead in the Megalobul, 20,000 of you playing in the DACStack Crazy Joe.
those are the top two
in the current
megal a bull rank. Jason, did you break into the
top thousand? I'm on it. Let me
check. I doubt it. I think I'm still
undefeated, but
yeah, you're just not making the
scoring enough points. It doesn't matter
right now. I'm saving it up when the playoffs
come. Yeah. Oh, that's smart.
Store them up. Stash the points.
All right, well, look, congratulations.
You're not in the top thousand. The
Dax, that crazy Joe. Oh, I'm nine and one.
I am actually 2,917.
Oh, things have really taken a turn.
Moving on.
Backup options, presented by progressive insurance.
Well, the waiver wire just went through in all of our leagues,
and we always want you to drop it like it's hot.
Pay attention to who was let go as a result of all the waiver signings.
the most dropped players on Sleeper in the last 24 hours
that will play, do you care? Do you not care?
Sean Tucker.
Yeah, I care right now while Buckley's hurt.
I don't think you understand the rules of the game.
I said, yeah, I care.
Okay. You're going to have to go quick. I got a big list.
All right. Justice Hill. No. No.
Chris Rodriguez. No.
Bachel Tutton. Yes. Yes.
Oh, you do care with Tudin? Mike's taking that one. I took it. I got it.
All right. Xavier Scott.
No. Olly Gordon. No. Isaiah Davis.
Yeah, a little bit
Breschard Smith
Deep, deep league, yeah
Darius Slate and Malik Washington
Jalen Tolbert
Uh, nope
Zach Ertz
Jason cares but I do not
No, I don't either
Taysome Hill
No
And then
All right
Defenses is whatever
But
So if you did not get the pickups
That you were hoping for
You didn't bid correctly
Or you didn't have the roster room yet
You hadn't drop somebody, whatever
We want to give you every week
Some backup options
Some players that you might be able
to pull off the waiver wire
and spot start. Jason and I went with
tight ends this week. I want to hear
Jason's. Well,
okay, I won't share mine then.
Well, since we already
said Jason does while you guys don't,
Zach Ertz to me is a guy that is going to be
clearly dropped in basically every league
out there. What, but why?
Because he had a goose egg. He went and he
did nothing. But that's why he
likes him.
He had a bad game and in this game
that was the, you know, the breakthrough
of Bill Kroski, having
his monstrous game. Jaden Daniels didn't do much in that game. It was a really weird game script
and one target to Zach Ertz. But that's obviously not what usually happens with Jaden Daniels and
Zach Hertz. We have plenty of history here of those two out there together. I mean, he was the
tight end eight last year with Jaden Daniels. The first two games of the season. He was the
tight end nine and the tight end two scoring double digit fantasy points both weeks. Then Jaden
Daniels was injured. Snap counts were very high then. Did you know that? Yeah. 90% for one of them.
64% in the other.
And so my point is, you look and it's like three bad weeks in a row.
But two of those were Marcus Marietta.
You shouldn't have been playing him anyways.
And one bad game with Jaden Daniels doesn't mean Zacherts is like going to vanish from this offense.
I think it's a mistake.
I am speaking as someone who is currently trying to figure out the tight-in position.
Like I didn't get any of the big, big names.
I tried to bid up for Darren Waller.
I got outbid.
I tried to trade for Tyler Warren
I got out trade offered
and so I'm
I'm still rostering Zacherts right now
I picked up Mousin Taylor
I'm trying to figure it out but I
think it would be a mistake to just drop Zacherts
and say well he's done
yeah no that's fair and I
want to flag another tight end
who played 92% of snaps
who had 81 yards receiving
it's Kate Otten
so you're talking about this
tight end landscape we've seen him be
fantasy relevant for multiple weeks in a row.
It's just interesting. Four for 81's
a nice line. Playing almost every
snap. That's great. And then Godwin's really not
been anything yet.
Not yet. Evans is not back yet.
I think Kate Otten might be worthy of a spot start.
All right. And I want to
talk about my guy. Cover your ears, everyone.
We did not adjust the volume.
I know. It's good stuff. Isaac Tesla
of the Detroit Lions. This
is being brought up because
right now, Khalif Raymond,
is banged up. There is a
chance that he misses. This isn't an
absolute must add, but someone you can
just throw on the back of a bench.
And, I mean, Tesla has, he has showed
up in all the opportunities that he has been given.
Should he get to be a
full-time wide receiver 3
for Detroit this week?
There's a chance that he really shows up and he
just takes that job.
And as of right now, Jameson
Williams is, he's getting targets,
but it's just not coming through. There is
there is a space in fantasy football leagues
for Isaac Tesla to be stashed
and maybe get that role really going.
Okay.
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Let's talk news.
News and notes from around the league.
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It seems like more often than not we've been very fortunate.
A lot of breaking news and trades and things have happened
like while we're recording or just before recording.
yesterday right after we finished recording
we got the big news that the Bengals
had acquired Joe Flacco from the Browns
and it was like
oh darn we didn't get to react to it
I think that was good
in this specific instance
because the knee jerk
immediate reaction was
hallelujah
Jamar Chase and Teehiggins are saved
yep
that was my initial thought it was like wow
because we had just talked on the show
about how I think it's
like they're stuck
It's going to get worse. You've only got Brett ripping farts behind Browning right now.
Yeah, it's a shell high chance for Chase. Yeah, you should sell them. And as soon as that news came through, they trade for Joe Flacco. I was like, oh, man, I wish we didn't say we should sell them. It's all better. They fix the whole. Do they get an old line with Flacko? And that's the thing is like, Flacco's about to die. He's going to be hit a lot. I mean, Jake Browning is Lamar Jackson. If you're just talking about the legs compared to Joe Flacko.
And so is Borough.
Burrough's great with pocket awareness and movement and all of that.
And he just, I mean, this offensive line doesn't exist for the Bengals.
You put a statue there.
Yeah, he snaps the ball and he puts his feet in two buckets of cement.
That's how he gets ready to throw the football.
And J.J. Zacharyson had shared this.
His rating under pressure, according to PFF, Joe Flakos.
In 2024, 41st out of 43 qualified quarterbacks went under.
pressure. It's not last. This year
36 out of 38. Also not last.
But like the reason he did
not start in Cleveland because
they pulled them off the field because he was turning the
ball over and getting sacked too much and not moving the
offense. So look,
Jerry Judy and Isaiah Bond are not
T. Higgins and Jim R. Chase. He will
give a little bit more of a
floor to those guys in my opinion
but not to the level of
potential excitement that your league mates might
have. And that's where you have to ask yourself
are they still a sell option? Yes.
This is good news for the Bengals' offense.
It is because we talked about it.
You had Brett Rippin' Farts behind him.
That's worse than Joe Flacco.
This is...
Who has got released.
Yeah.
Oh, all right.
Yeah.
Nice.
Quiet.
But deadly.
It was pretty silent.
Yeah.
Silent, unnoticed.
No one cared.
Not deadly at all.
And so this is good news for...
It is good news.
For T. Higgins.
For Jamar Chase.
But it is not...
great news. Jamar Chase is not back. Jamar Chase is not going to be a top three wide receiver
with Joe Flacco with this offensive line. And so is this a trade opportunity? I think you
just see if maybe someone is completely hyped. Like, oh my gosh, I'm willing to pay preseason
Jamar Chase, you know. Oh, yeah, you're not getting that. But people go crazy with news. I mean,
last year when Amari Cooper got traded to the Buffalo Bills, it was like, oh my gosh, he's got Josh
Josh Allen's got and someone
someone traded him for
Jamar Chase just on the hype of the
news I don't know. Someone accepted a trade
but go on. Okay, someone accepted a trade but my point is
people do wild things with
they do hype news and if you can get
a wild thing, then I would be willing
to do it's hope and it's the chain you think you're
the sharp. Right. You think you're
the one that's going to take advantage of the situation
it's like buying you know
buying a stock that's really low that could go way
up and the hope for me with
Flacco is
Flacco is
he's just he is a
better quarterback
than Jake Browning
so it's like the
the quick stuff
I think that Flacco
will be able to identify
the quick hitting
passes get it out
better and faster
than Jake Browning
and should they call
like a double move
I think that Flacco will see it
faster so it's just
it's about processing
so I think that you get a slight
bump up
yes you do
My tweet was literally, it's something.
Yeah, it is.
They had to do something.
Their division is somehow still not out of reach, which is absolutely absurd.
Them starting to an O and the collapse of the Ravens have set them up to where you're just trying to find a way to get Joe Burrow back for the playoffs.
Also, Joe Flaggow is playing the Packers again.
He beat him.
He did.
He beat him once.
I don't think the Bengals defense will play.
as well as the Brown's defense did.
You don't think so?
I don't.
Okay.
Could be wrong.
The earliest that I'm seeing Burrow able to get back
since he had surgery on September 19th
is basically the week 16 game.
So Burrow will not be seen again unless they're optimistic.
And it would,
I hope it happens.
Like it would be real fun if Joe Flacko is good.
Also, the fact of if you get through week 16,
Joe Flacco has somehow helped carry this seat to the playoffs, and they'll be like, see ya, pal, thanks so much.
Maybe.
It's Joe Burrow time.
Yeah.
They're, yeah, this report seems insane to me.
Well, Dylan Gabriel is going to be the starter in Cleveland.
Yeah.
And.
Yeah, there's follow out on the other side, too.
You know, like I thought Gabriel managed the game pretty well.
He's not a special player necessarily.
If this is real, I'm shocked.
Wait.
Mary Kay Cabot says,
Brown's head coach, Kevin Cofansky, will wait until later in the week to decide if Shador Sanders will be the number two.
Right now, Shador Sanders is the number two because he's the only other quarterback on the roster, but they did sign someone to the practice squad.
Did he tweeted that?
It's pretty, is that can we verify that that's the real person?
Because that just seems.
Well, she is a real person, but no, I know that she is a screenshot.
It's a screenshot.
I know that she's a real person.
I just, I'm in the world of AI.
and it not being a direct link to a tweet, I'm just wanting to...
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, never trust a screenshot of the tweet.
If you have two quarterbacks in your roster and you have to come out and say the second one might not be your two.
Bailey Zappy.
I just think that's wild.
Zab Zab. Zappi.
It was her, yes.
Okay.
So it's real.
Okay.
So Bailey Zappi's on the practice squad.
That's an unacceptably bad comment for the future of Chador Sanders.
Yeah.
We all assume he'll get snaps this year.
Yeah, I mean, when this trade happened, it was like...
Like, well, I don't think Dylan Gabriel's going to be able to do enough to where he's just locked in every week, no matter what, for the rest of the season.
The Browns are winning so many games that the calls for the Shadur Sanders won't come.
So Shadur Sanders should get starts, but that's only if he's the backup.
He said he wants to do what's best for the team and the players, and that they're trying to develop Shadur Sanders very intentionally.
But you're going to draft a quarterback next year.
Yeah, that's the issue.
So find out now.
Yeah, they may develop a path out of Cleveland for him.
Jalen Warren, arrow pointed up for his return.
I like the quote is arrow is pointed.
Normal is it, arrow is pointing.
You're like, hey, the arrow's pointing up.
The arrow's pointing up.
Not for Tom, the arrow is pointed up.
It's already done.
I'll be honest with you.
That didn't really stand out as strange to me at all.
Really?
No.
No, the arrows pointed up.
No, that seems fine.
You think it's weird?
I'm with Mike.
Okay.
All right.
Sounds weird.
I'm glad.
Lamar Jackson uphill battle
to play against the Rams
and they've got the buy week right afterwards
so I think
we'd all be surprised if Lamar plays this week
and if they won I'd be very surprised
if that happened too I think they are
four seven and a half
favorites last I saw
underdogs the Ravens
the Rams were favorite
yeah wow Britain Strange went to
IR with a quad injury for the Jags
this is it's a bummer it's a bummer for
Brent and Strange it does mean that
Travis Hunter has a future here
They said they're going to start throwing him the ball more down the field.
You need that, right?
He's capable of the big play.
He had a monstrous play that changed the game.
He's going to get more offensive snaps and more opportunities with Britain Strange.
He was sucking up, what, seven, eight targets a game?
Naim Hines signed to the Chargers Practice Squad, that situation with the running backs there.
You know, maybe somebody emerges.
But my biggest problem there is there's optimism about Hampton returning after just four weeks.
and so I feel like you need at least a week
to get clarity
and there's a chance that that week gives you none
so it's just a little bit
to me it's just a little bit of a mess
because it's very short term
and I don't know that you can trust
how long have we had no Echler in Washington
how many weeks?
Three?
Quite a while.
Yeah, I mean...
So that's a good example of like
people benched Chikori Kreisky Merritt last week
because he didn't get opportunities
two weeks before.
It was in the middle of...
week two. Yeah. So, like, that is the
kind of the template that I'm seeing right now
in Los Angeles, is that
if you played Chris Rodriguez or you played Jacorio
Cross Camer, it hurts you for two weeks,
and then finally you play the wrong guy or you sit
one guy down, and then by the time that's done, Hampton's
back, that's my worry. There is
a chance. There's an opportunity, but I think it's going to
be on the arm of Herbert more often
than not. Probably true. I think
they will have to put it, put the ball
in Herbert's hands. The schedule coming
up, the dolphins, Colts,
Vikings and Titans are the four weeks
that Hampton will for sure miss.
All right. That was news and notes
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We'll preview the Thursday night game.
All right. The
4 and 1 Philadelphia Eagles, who we
We talked about a little bit with AJ Brown.
Thursday Night Breakdown.
You were saying, Andy?
I'd like to pretend I was setting the table for the drop.
I wasn't.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you very much.
Got it.
Does it feel more appropriate to talk about the game now?
I think it's a perfect time.
Because it probably felt pretty bad before.
I was like, what are you doing?
Yeah.
What night?
What game?
What's happening?
How about I start over?
The Eagles are four and one, and they're taking on the one and four New York Giants.
The Philadelphia Eagles are seven-point road favorites here.
The over-under is 40 and a half.
This game makes me really want to believe in an upset.
At home in New York, Thursday night, short week, banged up Sequin.
Eagles, you know, the offense hasn't been great.
The Giants' defense is pretty good.
I can't get there.
I'd like to, but I can't.
Eagles are heavy favorites in this one, but coming off a loss, they're going to play pretty well.
They haven't lost very many games over the last, what, 23, 24 matchups.
Giants just looked pretty inept after the strong start against the Saints.
Saints get their first win in the year against them.
They turned the ball over on five consecutive possessions against the Saints in that game.
It was crazy.
You know, Jackson Dart is a reasonably okay fantasy.
player because he's running the football but against this defense in super flex leagues maybe because
I think he's a quarterback too I don't think you would start him you know I think in the right
12 I think in the right matchup you could definitely yes yes yes I'm not in this one no the issue for him
is is just turnovers I mean like the the saints were able to do it because it's like his
his stat line 202 passing yards two passing touchdowns 55 I don't what I did someone hit the
button for me I don't got it
Thank you. Fifty-five rushing yards.
All of those numbers turned into the quarterback 16 because of turnovers.
So that is an issue that I, the Eagles are going to be,
Eagles are going to take that ball away.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's very fair.
And then, you know, Cam Scataboo.
He's a must start in every matchup.
What about Tyrone Tracy?
They're optimistic that Tracy will play.
I will personally be starting Cam Scataboo every week until I am shown that Tyrone
Tracy is 50-50 with him or Tyrone Tracy is back to the lead. I am personally assuming that
Cam Scataboo is going to be the lead guy here, especially in the first week back for Tyrone
Tracy. The opportunities, the workload that they've given him, they are using him as their dude.
You do have to look at that. It's been really inefficient.
for two weeks in a row. It's wild to turn
27 opportunities into 12 fantasy
points, 22 opportunities into
11.4 fantasy points.
But then you look at those targets,
six receptions last week.
You know, Jackson Darts only started for two
weeks, so
yeah, I think I'm with you.
I would have,
I think I would have originally tried to shy away from the
Philly matchup, but those opportunity numbers are too big.
And no Slayton
could turn into even more checkdowns.
Yeah, I think it's a little Jordan Humphrey
coming up to play. All right. They're running out of the past catching people. And you saw, like,
even the last game that Tyrone Tracy played in, that was eight targets were still to Camp Scadaboo. So I'm
not going away. I don't expect Cam Scadaboo to have some monstrously awesome game and have
easy touchdowns against Great Phillies defense. But when you touch the ball that many times,
you should have a baseball team. Yes, nice. It was. It was.
It was an apostrophe S.
It was Philly's.
The Phillies.
The Phillies good defense.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Theo Johnson would be.
What about Theo?
He's the one like beneficiary.
The target totals, again, you like that.
They don't have a lot of other players.
Yeah, you're still trying to find tendencies of Jackson Dart and five.
I'm cool with it.
Five and seven.
I mean, I'm cool with the dart.
25% of targets two weeks ago, 18%.
The Eagles are very good against tight end.
The Eagles are very good against tight in.
So I had claims in, just brought up my personal tight-in struggles, and I put claims in on Miaosa Taylor and on Theo Johnson.
And I put them in that order, specifically partially because of the matchup this week.
This is not a good matchup for Theo Johnson.
The Phillies defense has been top five for a long time against tight ends.
That's not a good exploitable matchup.
And then you also look at like, you know, Theo this season, he hasn't had 35 yards in a game yet.
at. I do like him. I would be fine picking him up and stashing him, but I don't, I'm not willing to
play him against a really good Phillies baseball team.
AJ Brown, Devante Smith, you're going to play him, right? But Giants are basically dead last
against whiteouts in the league. You've seen the neutral pass rate go up. They're heavy favorites.
AJ Brown should be dominant this week. I just traded away. So I know the pain that's coming.
So, you know, Jalen Hertz, they're still 31st in the league in passing yards per game.
Jalen Hurts, you're going to play him.
Sequoan, you're going to play him.
Dallas Goddert, he scored a touchdown in three straight games.
Is he okay?
He is okay.
I'd rather play him than Theo Johnson.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, right now he's the tight end eight on the season, and he missed week two.
So he's been involved.
Last week, it was really touchdowns.
The last three weeks has been touchdowns.
has done it for him. Week one, though, you saw him involved in the past game, seven
targets, seven receptions. So I think you could throw him in your lineup. All right. Any other
big players in this game that you're looking out for? I feel like we covered them all.
No, I think you're good. Sequin, if we didn't say it, Sequin, you know, he had the estimated
did not practice Monday. He was limited on Tuesday, so he seems good to go. All right, we are
going to move on into our draft redo.
Fantasy Footballers Mock Draft.
All right, we are going to go two rounds.
How fun.
Yeah, fantasy draft redo.
I'm not, I didn't do a whole lot of preparation for this.
Well, it would be a good time to remind everyone.
We do have rest of season rankings.
Yeah, you can just go pull those up in.
Up on the.
Well, I just mean like thinking about it in terms of the two rounds
because I kind of wanted to just see how it felt going into it.
Yeah, but it's like this is a bit of.
a rest of season type
of a thing and those rankings are
available, the fantasy footballers.com
if you are interested. All right, Mike, you
have the first pick
in our fantasy draft
redo the first two rounds.
If you were drafting today... I'm so
happy you have the first pick. There's two guys
who I think should be in contention.
And I want to know which one you pick. For the first pick.
Jason gets the second pick. Cool. I don't get either one.
And for me
it's not
one's a running back, one's a wide receiver.
So I'm going to take the running back.
Interesting.
I'm going to take Jonathan Taylor.
Oh, wow.
I think that Jonathan Taylor is the number one fantasy player.
Those are not either of the two names that I was going to say.
Jonathan Taylor.
Were they either of the two names for you?
I'm going to be honest, they weren't.
But I'm excited because I got Jonathan Taylor and League of record.
And he has been utterly dominant, used around the goal line, used in the passing game,
and also just looks like Christian McCaffrey can be in conversation for this.
He's just so involved.
But he hasn't looked.
He's not one of the names either.
No, he wasn't either for me.
I mean, for me, it's Bijan and Puka.
Yep, those are the two.
So I'll take whoever you don't take.
To me, Puka is the number one, by the way.
He's the number one over over up there.
It's Jonathan Taylor or Pooka for me.
You will get the number one at number three.
I'm going to take Bijon Robinson.
I think that the running back position is still the most important position right now.
I mean, we're two years in a row here where it's like you look at your leagues and you say,
who's doing great, and it's the ones that have these dominant running backs.
Yeah, I feel like Pooka's in a tier of his own,
and that's why I think he belongs at number one
in the same way that Chase was treated this offseason.
I'll take Pukunakua at number three.
His steadiness combined with the big weak upside, it's awesome.
So nothing wrong with any of those picks in any order.
Pukunakua will be my selection at number three.
Man, he is dominating.
Yeah, yeah.
And we were talking yesterday.
There were a couple leagues, like our listener league,
which we're doing all right in right now.
But like I took Puka at, I believe, eight.
At eight, yes.
And it was ahead of Jefferson.
It was ahead of Amun-Ross, St. Brown,
and some other player that people thought I should have taken ahead of him.
And the reaction to that was like,
it just is an example of the draft season
because there's plenty of other picks I made that were bad in every league.
But in the reaction of like, this guy should be in this order.
It's all stupid five weeks into the year.
It was crazy when you took Pucca over Justin Jefferson.
It was like, you know what?
I'm going to pull the trigger here.
But Puka is like when we talk about the next tier of wide receivers,
it is a tier down from what Puka has been doing.
And Puka hasn't even been doing it with touchdowns.
But like, I love Amman Ra.
I love JSN.
I love Jefferson.
And I don't know how high Buka goes.
I don't know how high C.D. Lam should, you know,
if he's only missing one more game, maybe he's the wide receiver one after that.
I don't know. We'll find out. But all of those guys do not feel like in the same class as what Puka is doing weekend, week out right now.
Back to you, Mike. I will take Christian McCaffrey.
Christian McCaffrey at number four.
Is the running back two and has zero rushing touchdowns. Imagine the world where Christian McCaffrey is doing this, but occasionally scoring a rushing touchdown here or there.
Yeah, that would just be like the other years that he was the best.
Yeah, the run block. I don't know if the run blocking ever.
actually improves for the 49ers
this year, but
the volume will be there and
receiving touchdowns. He has three of them
and the targets are just
he's averaging over 10
targets a game.
You give that to your
wide receiver one on your team and you're
very, very happy. It's redonculus.
It's absolutely... It is.
It is truly
redonculus. And it doesn't
seem sustainable, but it might be.
It just might be. It's sustainable until it's
not all right so am i back on the clock you are i'm between two players um yeah i've got the one
i've got the one you want i i'll just say the two players since this isn't you know we're
we're not building rosters here no i am personally between omina ross st brown who has just been
after week ones dodd just a machine yeah to me he's the the second wide receiver he's running very
hot with touchdown he is but he also is used around the goal line so much and the lines are
the goal line so much. So it's a nice
combination. And Josh Jacobs.
Josh Jacobs, one of the things, you know,
that you do keep in mind when you're
making rest of season rankings, when you're looking at trades,
Andy brought this up yesterday's,
he's passes by now.
So, you know, almost
every other player has a
game missing. And so if I'm looking
at the value of those,
he is the running back I would take.
I'm, I, when I, when I,
when I lay that both cases
out, there are
running backs that are closer to Josh Jacobs to me
than there are wide receivers closer to
Amon Raw. So I'm going to go Amin Raugh. Yeah, I'll go back to back
Lions. It won't be Jacobs for me. It'll be Jemir Gibbs. I will
take Jemir Gibbs. I think Jacobs is in the running
there, but I know what I have in Gibbs.
I also know that there's an in, like I think Gibbs
with Montgomery in the backfield is a slightly better play
than Jacobs' rest of the season. And what if
Montgomery is out? So to me, like,
Gibbs on that roster, the way that they're cooking, I think Gibbs is the pick for me.
Those two running backs have a built-in nuclear option, which is so cool to have them and just
know if either one of those.
You're saying Montgomery and Gibbs. Yeah, David Montgomery and Gibbs, obviously Gibbs far more so.
I like to visualize that if like somebody gets hurt, they walk over to the other guy and give
them this vial full of their power. And then they load that power into themselves and
accumulate double this dance. I mean, if David Montgomery went down,
is the running back one. He would be the running back one from that point forward.
But if Gibbs went down, I think Montgomery could be the running back one.
Top top ten. Top ten.
Oh, he would definitely be top ten. I'll give you top ten. I'll give you top eight.
I will take top five. I mean, he has had, he's had up, I mean, he did have a lot of career
without Jamir Gibbs. Not on the lions, though. He didn't have any without Gibbs on the lines. I
thought he had one year without him. No, I don't think so.
all right am I back up
you are back up Mike
all right yeah pick seven
somehow it feels disappointing
and I'm taking
Sequin Barclay he's
that's where he is in my rest of season
rankings but just behind Jamir Gibbs
it's been disappointing the huge runs have not been
there perhaps
perhaps the
data nerds are correct of
it was just too much of a workload
last year for Sequin Barclay but he
is still for the most part really coming through and I think that things can improve for him
and the Eagles are stable. Like the other guys have, there's going to be some question
marks on the team and the offense. The Eagles are going to be in it for the long run. So I will
take Barclay. Yeah, I don't mind. It makes this pick obviously easy for me since last time I was up
I was between Amman Ra and Josh Jacobs. I would, you know, Jacobs and Gibbs, I think that is really,
really, really close. Jacobs and Barkley is close as well, but I have two other guys,
two other running backs I would take before Jacobs. Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously hot and
bothered for Jacobs, which is why I went out and traded for him and hopefully it comes to
fruition, but I'll take Jacobs here. All right, Josh Jacobs goes with the eighth pick. So we've
had three straight running backs, Gibbs, Jacobs, I think there will be a four straight running back. I'm
just trying to think through the wide receivers. No, I actually will pivot. I will pivot. I
I obviously think Jefferson is worthy of the pick here,
but I'm actually going to go Jackson Smith and Jigba.
Yeah, he's one spot higher for me.
I'm going to take JAS in.
He is currently, I think, fifth and points per game at the wide receiver position.
You know, Abuca is ahead of him.
A dunze is ahead of them right now,
but obviously you're not just looking at what they've done so far.
Jefferson, I think, is going to get cooking as he always does.
It was between those two at wide receiver for me, actually.
So I will go with Jackson Smith and Jigba,
put some respect on the name of the player that has truly been
dominant. Yeah, and I will
follow it up with Justin Jefferson.
Yeah, that would have.
Who he does, he has the variable.
He has the J.J. McCarthy variable.
Um, not that things go to absolute to poo-poo town
should McCarthy come back and be the starter.
Week one, when everything was awful for the Minnesota Vikings,
and McCarthy looked terrible, 44 and a score.
Like I said, not the worst possible thing.
But then with Carson,
Wentz these past two weeks, 126, 123 yards.
His worst game is here is 3 for 81 with McCarthy, and that was still not a bet.
And I believe that McCarthy, should he come back and get the job, will improve over the
course of the season. Jefferson is just, he is that good.
I was looking forward to drafting Jefferson here if you didn't, so.
One of the reasons why that team is good and the head coach is good and the quarterbacks
have success is because they target their best players relentlessly all the time strategically,
unlike the Cardinals who I think they do target their best players.
Marvin Harrison had 78 receiving yards on the first two drives of that game
and I think wasn't targeted on the final 30-something plays.
It's just so ridiculous.
Public PSA here.
Yes.
For all the-PSA.
For news outlets out there when you're breaking something that says,
and it comes through on my phone.
so we got small and it says
Jonathan Gannon
being fined
it's too close to fired
way too close
I read the same thing
because I would just like oh my gosh
he got fired
it's like we did it
the Arizona Cardinals have fired
Jonathan Gannon you're like oh
we took $100,000 from
you need to remove all the money
remove all the money
that would be the firing
yes well it doesn't
no it doesn't remove the money
he still gets it all
you know what's interesting
is that it wasn't the NFL.
Right.
I actually thought the fine was from the NFL.
It was the Cardinals.
Yeah.
It's just interesting.
They were like, ooh, I can save some money.
Now, what if?
Yeah. Oh, that is not surprising.
Yeah. He's like, why didn't you hit him twice?
Now that you bring it up, the bidwells being able to reclaim $100,000.
Oh, man.
They were so happy. They were so excited about that.
All right. All right. Jason, you're back on the clock at 11.
Jefferson just went off the board. This one is interesting. This is my last pick of the first round here of the top 12 picks. I've been looking at the different running backs who I would take here. There are still some great players. James Cook has been on fire. Devon H.N. has been very consistent, but doesn't, his ceiling hasn't been there. At wide receiver, you got Nico, Egbuka. I don't know how high he'll go. Drake London has been involved. You know, there's all these guys. But when push comes to shove, I was really thinking about this because I have this player. And I was like, would I
trade them right now, straight up for those names I just said, and I would not. And it's C.D. Lamb.
Okay. C.D. Lamb, I'm going to miss a game. That sucks. Um, I, you know, I. So much for getting past the buy week. Well, everyone, most all players were drafting still have a buy week. So I'm just missing an additional game this week. And that's presumed he could still play this. Every man. Um, but yeah, I, I, you know, when, when we look at what DAC has been doing and you look at league winners.
Guys who can go,
guys who can really go ham and score 30 points.
You know, the first two weeks,
he was a top 12 wide receiver without touchdowns,
over 110 yards both weeks,
then gets injured.
And so since that time,
Dax's been great,
Pickens has been great.
I think Citi will be awesome.
And thank goodness
that Dallas Cowboys defense is as bad as it is.
It is so nice.
All right.
Lamb was on the board, probably not next for me, but I'll go with Devon A. Chan. I think A. Chan, I'm going to take over Cook. I think the baseline is better for him, the receiving work. We've only had one game without Tyreek Hill. He was very good. And that one, he'll be very good for a long time. And he plays the wide receiver position. I mean, he really does. He went up and had a full wide receiver-esque. Meet him at the top. Catch it over two guys in the end zone.
That pass. I saw a tweet. I apologize. I don't remember who it had it. But it was such.
a great tweet said don't let the incredible pass by Tua or the incredible catch by Achan
distract you from the fact that on like a third and eight from the goal line they drew up a
running back fade in the back of the end zone which is a really bad design but the play was
awesome but it was like really that's the best you got a fade to your tiny running back yeah
yeah they should you know yeah Devon Aachan number 12 rounds out our first round Taylor Robinson
Nakua, CMC, Almanraa, Gibbs, Barkley, Jacobs, J.S.N. Jefferson, Lamb, and A. Chan.
Let's see how that compares to the ADP of how it was a while ago. You want to see?
It's not bad. Jamar Chase was the 101. Obviously, he's gone.
I thought you were going to give us where these guys went.
We can look at that. Bejohn went next, Barkley, Gibbs. So those guys are about the same.
Justin Jefferson, C.D. Lamb, Christian McCaffrey.
Derek Henry.
That's six straight that are in the same 12.
So Derek Henry is a faller.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Alman Ross St. Brown is in there.
Ashton Gentie.
Yeah.
So Gentie and Henry are fallers, neighbors is injured, and Puka was the last one.
It's funny because Gentie is not, I mean, he's getting drafted in this next round.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's not far off.
The involvement in the receiving game now and the step up for him.
Mike, you're back on the clock.
First pick of the second round.
it's James Cook
I would take both A-chan and James
Cook over Josh Jacobs personally
James, or I'm sorry James Cook
obviously it's not perfect
because he can still have
some dud games but he is
he looks so incredible
he did not take the bag and decide that
he would just ride off into the sunset with all his money
he took it seriously
yeah I think James Cook was
was probably the next man up on my list as
Well, last three picks,
Lamb, A-Chann, James Cook.
We'll take a break.
We'll finish it out.
Mr. Moore, Jason, you are on the clock.
Man, every running back left,
there's a lot of good running backs
that all have big question marks for me.
I don't know how high to take them.
So I'm going to take the stud wide receivers that are left.
It's worth noting.
Trey McBride, still available.
All the tight ends have not been
taken yet, but I'm going to take Nico Collins
here. He's
still a stud, he's getting it done.
He has been disappointing for sure, as the
Texan's offense has been disappointing, but he
is an awesome fantasy asset.
If I was in the draft,
the truth is, I would take a mecca
Abuka above Nico Collins. That was the, that
was where I'm looking between
Nico and Abuca. And Drake London, those three
to me. Yeah, no, it's fair. And
Nico has been, I think, a little bit
quietly consistent
because the offense had been struggling, but now
two weeks in a row, they've been looking better.
I will take them at Abuca.
At 15, which is a, yeah, that's just a
wild moment of reflection.
I'm not saying it's wrong, that's wild.
And just on a personal level, I think he's my favorite
player in the game of football. He's so good.
I love, like I said it yesterday,
I love the Buckingier so much.
I love Baker, I love Abuka, I love Bucky, I love Bucky,
I love Evans, I love that team. I love Todd Bowles.
He was an Arizona guy.
We are going to, that is going to move into
second place.
Final ADP, final ADP picks 84, 85, and 86 in the eighth round was rookie wide receiver,
Rookie Wide Receiver, Emeka, Bucca, and Matthew Golden back to back after Travis ETN.
So these...
84, 85, 86 you're saying?
Yeah, eighth round pick, Emeka, Bucca is now a top 15 selection.
We were looking in our listener league where you and I were four or five picks apart in the fifth or six round.
I took Abuka.
I was so angry when you took him because that was my mind.
And then you ended up with golden five picks later.
And the feeling between those two right now.
The gap is like one is a superstar.
One is a second round pick and one's on the waiver wire.
Yeah.
Yeah. So Mike, you're back on the clock.
Pick 16.
Abuk was off the board.
It gets a little harder now.
It definitely gets a bit harder.
So I will.
that running back four in points per game
when will he be drafted
yeah i know i i keep looking at his name and i'm like
not yet is someone going to do it yeah i'm gonna i don't have the snows to do that so i'll
just take kairn williams please carin what so he's talking he's alluding to givante
williams the name he who should not be named um but it is uh it's a conversation at
some point yeah it's it's funny because i think
But I think Derek Henry on the board versus Jivante, that'd be a really hard pick.
It would.
Derek Henry, Brees Hall, Buckie Irving, who I know he's injured, but he was awesome.
It's like, would you really take Javante Williams over those guys in a startup?
Like, is the rug going to get pulled?
I don't think.
It doesn't feel like it, man.
It really doesn't.
I'm not taking any of them, though.
We did just get real quick news.
Tyrone Tracy, no injury designation.
Good to go for Thursday.
Cool.
Okay.
I will go back to the wide receiver position.
and take Drake London. I saw Nico Ibuka and Drake London kind of in that same tier.
Interesting. You'll go, all right. You would, I mean, you're a Garrett-Welson guy. Is that who you're saying?
That is. It was a slow nod of approval by Mike. Yes, yes. I'm glad you got the name right away.
Look, it was you. Yeah, I wouldn't have thought. I'm going to take Josh Allen. I'm taking Josh Allen at 18. The number one every year, practically, at the position is the number one again. I mean, Josh Allen,
what he and Lamar, who's hurt, I mean, Lamar would have been in the discussion.
At some point, a quarterback's going to go here.
The differential to my team is significant with Josh Allen in the mid to late second round.
And when you have that player on the team, they can win you the week.
I mean, Josh Allen can win you a week anytime.
He does it frequently.
I think that's where the line is drawn.
Because the next big names up there is Derek Henry who's been a little disappointing.
Don't know what's wrong with Lamar Jackson, Ashton, Jentie.
Okay, Judkins, so a couple of rookies.
or the guaranteed commodity of Josh Allen.
To me, that was the time.
I think that the right place to take the known commodities at quarterback
is when everyone else now has a big question mark.
Yeah.
And that's, you know...
We're right around there.
Is Javante real?
Is Derek Henry falling off?
You know, those type of questions.
So, yeah, I don't blame you taking a QB here.
All right, Mike, you're next up here.
We've got a handful of picks left.
I think you got two more...
We all got two more picks left.
I would just make sure that this man gets the respect.
think he deserves. So I will take Garrett Wilson
right here. It
might not be pretty. No,
no. He might not want to watch it. Fourth quarter
magic with Justin Fields.
Garrett Wilson's great player. He just
he needs to be on
when Fields has his like every other
terrible play, good play. We just need the good play to
go to Garrett.
Man, there is though,
there's another wide receiver that
I
there's a handful. I almost took over Garrett. I just can't do it. Quentin Johnson? No. No, no, no. I know. Not that far. I think I know who you would be taking, and it might be my pick here. All right. I'm just looking. Would I really take them over these running backs? That is tough. No, I wouldn't. I think I'm going to end up going with some of these questionable running backs. And while I do think Derek Henry is still good this season, I'm actually going to go Breece Hall. I think with the-
That's fine by me.
With the injury to Braylon Allen.
Back-to-back Jets.
Brees Hall has looked really good.
I'm taking Justin Field.
No, I'm not.
Yeah, Breast isn't a strange name because it's a lot more exciting to take Gentie or Judkins or Henry.
But Brease has been really effective and very good and involved in the passing game.
I don't mind it.
I think for me the pick is actually quench on Judkins.
I am fine with that.
I think I'm going to take Judkins here.
Yes, Javante's out there
and Bucky with the injury.
I'd love to take Bucky there.
I don't know how long he's going to really be out.
Only four more picks.
I mean, so many of these guys are not making it in the top 20.
No, I mean, Judkins has been a top 12 running back
in the three weeks he's played any snaps.
The Judkins situation is so insane.
Of everything that happened.
You thought maybe he didn't play in the NFL?
Yeah, of how the pick was perfect for the Cleveland Browns
in terms of the player that they needed,
the archetype he was going late going in the middle of redraft which felt awesome and then his
whole off-to-field DA allegations and it's like and those are they're gone now and I there's
no more chatter at all about suspension yeah I know it's like I haven't heard anything of the NFL
coming the NFL does not let even even what happened of it okay went away the NFL doesn't
let those things slide. Yeah, I mean, maybe
that, I mean, to give, to be fair
to the situation, you'd have to
say that if, if things
didn't happen or things got settled out,
like you, like you said, if the league doesn't let it slide and the
lead isn't addressing it, then maybe
something different happened that we don't understand
and know, and you just have to accept
it, but it is a crazy change
from where we were. Three picks left, Mike,
your final selection here. I'm going to do
it. I'm taking Giovante.
Okay. Just
just let his points wash over you.
The Dallas offense.
Second round picks,
Emeka, Buka, Giovante Williams, baby.
What are you going to do, man?
What are you, this far in,
I feel like you have to do it.
I feel like you need to buy into what Javante's doing.
Javante in the second round,
and then this guy went in the second round.
And you've got to give credit to this rookie sensation,
wide receiver out of Ohio State.
Emeka, a big boo.
Egg bag boo
I need the cut of just the name too
I need to be able to hit that
anytime I want
Now they all have ear pieces in
What was the John Travolta when he was saying
Adele de Zeme
Amica a beg boo
They all have the earpiece in right
You as a producer of that show
It's a buca
You know that it's gronk
It's a buca man
You need to tell him hey
Pause right before you say it
We will say it in your ear
maybe they did and then repeat
maybe they did and that's still what we got
that was incredible just too funny
goodness grace could not have slaughtered it
could not have slaughtered it
yeah let's uh and you gotta give credit to this
rookie sensation wide receiver out of Ohio State
emika a big boo
I can listen to that a hundred times
I really I really could all right we have
Jason not even remotely close
all right I've got four names Jason I have curious
six. I'm curious if these four are on
your list of six. All right, let me hear him.
Derek Henry. Derek Henry is one of, I've got
three running backs. Rome is on my list.
Rome was the name that that's what I
struggled. Quinn Johnson? Quinn Johnson
is not on my list. Jamar Chase is on there. So my list,
my three running backs are
Derek Henry, Ashen Gentie, and Travis E.T.
Not Bucky Irving. I guess not. I mean,
Bucky is in that group for sure, but being injured,
it's hard to take him. Um,
Jemar Chase, Roma Dunesay, and Devante Adams.
who's just getting it done as you know and I think he will continue to it's really tough if I was going to really take one of those picks right here right now I would you should probably go with Emika a big boo
it doesn't it doesn't get it doesn't get familiar it's not like oh I've heard this I'm here we went at 12 it was 8chan cook was 13 Niko was 14 at 15 we went and you got to give credit to
Wrong one.
Emika, a big boo.
And then it was Kairn, London, Alan, Wilson,
Breeze Hall, Judkins, and Giovante.
All right.
Who are you taking?
I'm going to take the fun pick.
I'm going to take Ashen Gentie.
Okay.
I don't think that's wrong at all.
I mean, that's a good pick.
I'll put Derek Henry in it with the final spot at the second round
and try to keep the context.
I mean, Sequin went higher in this draft than I thought,
and that was part of keeping the context that we're five weeks in.
Yes.
We know what the power of those two players.
was over the last
Henry freaks me out more
because Henry like Sequin
like I said Eagles stable
Ravens big big trouble
and for they just
whatever offensive stuff they are
doing they just whenever they go to pass mode
they feel like we got to put
Justice Hill on the field which
I understand you
you got to utilize his skill set
but there are so many times
on third and short
and Justice Hill is out there and I think it is just
such a travesty and stupid. In ours, no Bucky, no
Jemar Chase, no Devante Adams, no Romadunes A, no ETN, and no
tight ends. And no huge. Yeah, it's
no tight ends, though, is a, it's a tough one. All right, we
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First question from Georgian Kansas City.
Would you trade Darren Waller and...
Emeka a big boo.
For Puka Nakua.
Oh.
Oh.
So this is great.
Yeah, this is great.
This is great because they already have Tram McBride.
Then, yeah.
Absolutely.
I literally on the drive into work today
as a manager of
Emika Egg Big Bo
as a manager
He's going to start screwing us
A buca
I thought
You know I could go maybe
Like what if I could get puka
In a trade where I give
Egg Buka
And more for Puka
Yeah
You can go
Don't you have Waller?
And I do have Waller
Yeah
But
I don't think I did
I actually just was like
I like a Bucca too much
But you should do the trade.
Yeah, no, it's a great trade.
And I don't think we've brought up Darren Waller enough.
Number one in points per game at tight-in.
He is, so I went back for the Dynasty show that came out today.
If you are in Dynasty, listen to the Fantasy Footballers' Dynasty podcast.
I did a film review of the Dolphins minus Tyree Kill.
I just watched every snap over again yesterday to just see how did the offense look.
And my big takeaway was just like.
like, holy crap, Darren Waller looks amazing.
Yeah, he looks fast. He looks like their best weapon.
Like, the passes to Darren Waller were
those were their best place. He looked
so fast, big, strong. And he was only on the
field, you know, half the snaps.
And they're going to keep working him in more and more and more.
I mean, I... What did the snap count get up to?
I think it was like 50. I was guessing it would be
in the 45 range. Was it higher than that?
Yeah, I think it was 50 to... I think it was in the 50s.
Oh, baby. Let's go.
So his first week was 28%
this last week was 58%
5 for 78
used downfield used on those seam routes
I mean we saw this with Jonu Smith
You know that he's telling the truth
Jason is because he would love to get
Darren Waller for me in our league of record
And he's not pretending like the tape was bad
Yeah yeah I mean he's telling the truth
And I think you know
You're not going to like this either
But I think this is the cheaper time you can get Darren Waller
I agree with that
I think he's going to get more expensive.
If he, you know, over the next month, if he has three good games.
He is heating up, as they say.
Yeah, if he has three good games over the next month, then all of a sudden at that
point, you're going to be looking at him, like, who would you, you know, who's the best
tied in right now?
Like, literally, who was, who did you want number one?
I would say Tray McBride, it's been a little disappointing.
Yeah, Tray McBride's been a little this point.
It's certainly not going to be Kincaid rest of season or God or rest of the season.
It could be Tyler Warren.
I think it's probably Warren.
It could be, honestly, it's George Kittle.
Like, when George Kittle comes back, he's going to...
What's wild is Warren's been good, but it's not insane.
But no type of has been insane.
Like, the points scored by Waller in the last two games, both outscore any Warren game.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, Waller is in that conversation.
Like, when I look at who's the best tight ends to have rest of season, he's there.
And that sucks for me to say.
We all, we need that program.
The ramp that he was on?
Oh, dude.
Yeah.
Goofo.
He thought we would never play that drop again.
He may legitimately have a shot at being the best tight-in in football for the rest of the season.
That's fun.
Not saying that's guaranteed.
McBride should be in the mix.
Someone asked Sam in New York asked, would you trade Tyler Warren for Tray McBride straight up?
I would do that.
I would rather have McBride.
I would too.
I think it will be.
Now, we did just get news.
Kyleor Murray and the foot injury
Not practicing
Well thankfully
He should be okay
Thankfully Jacoby Brissette is a capable backup
That can get the ball to these players
I don't feel like that is
In the maybe in terms of the Arizona Cardinals' offense
Because he doesn't have the mobility
Kyler has
But as far as the pocket passing
I don't think it's a major step down
For the receiving options of McBride
Or Marve
Yeah, okay
Moving on
Next question comes in
Oh we have a voicemail
Let's go to that one
Hey ballers
Waddle owner from Toronto here
Just wondering what you think of him
What did we think our long-term outlook on Waddle is
Should we sell high while he's still healthy
Or do you think you last the season
Who are you looking for?
Tet maybe
I mean what do you think
Yeah I mean
Bonjour
Bonjour yeah I think
I think Waddle's going to be great
So yeah the question is how are we feeling
temperature check here on Jalen Waddle, who
even those first few weeks
where Tyreek was playing, he was
getting it done, and then
that was the first week, full week
without Tyreek, right? Yes.
Which he's always been... Six for one, ten.
He's been really good in those situations. And a touchdown.
He is an awesome,
awesome player who
his issue has
never been skill. It is just
his body. Doesn't love to play football. Did you see him again this week?
Did it happen again?
on the first play. I missed that one.
Al and I were watching it and nothing happened to Waddle.
Nothing happened whatsoever.
I didn't. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. He wasn't even, I don't even think it was tackled.
He was down in agony.
When I was rewatching the Dolphins film, it literally the like the pro-n NFL recap, I didn't even know they did this, but it was like, you know, pass, complete left to Jalen Waddle exits with injury.
It was like, oh, Waddle.
Good. Good, yeah.
Yeah, we all like Waddle.
So Waddle or Tett McMillan, which side do you prefer?
So I've got a hundred-degree low-grade fever on Jalen Waddle.
I think he's necessary to this offense.
I really like him.
I'm like 104 for Tett.
Yeah.
Like I think Tett is going to help people win championships at the end of the year.
I still need to be convinced.
I would love to be on that team.
It's one of those things where it's like the peripheral of the Carolina Panthers offense and the...
Yeah, Bryce.
and Bryce and the fact that he can be he can make a good pass he could get
the stink for two sacks the stink of Bryce is why Tett is what he is right now but I mean
this is a rookie who through his first five games is on pace for 1,200 yards in his rookie
season yeah I mean and that's good that's good but it's also like Bryce is
Bryce is keeping Tett's price down but Bryce has supported remember you know Adam feeling
old man Adam Thielen.
Yeah.
Bryce got it done with him.
The touchdowns haven't been there.
And it's not like he's finishing with no touchdowns.
It was better with Dalton.
Dalton got Deante Johnson and Thielen cooking.
It's just, it's a little hard for me to be all the way there is all I'm saying.
I understand.
You're talking about like rest of season, total yardage.
I would put a bet on Waddle over Tet on total yardage on total yardage.
On total yard.
I mean, because you brought up the yard projection.
I'm just saying like more touchdowns, I think,
Waddle probably scores more touchdowns?
I would, I think Waddle probably has more touchdowns,
Tett has more yardage. That's how I would see it.
It's, yeah, it's going to be, it's a pretty close one.
If you're in any league with a Keeper League or a Dynasty League,
and that trade is on the table, I would definitely be on the Tett side of that.
I think rest of the season this year, it's a little bit tougher for me, but I get it.
I get buying in.
That's interesting, because, I mean, Tyreeks should be gone.
Yeah.
Like next year, I think it will, well, number one.
Their head coach and the quarterback.
Yeah, that's true.
It'll be a, they'll probably clean the house.
So we'll see.
There are, I don't know, sometimes the team still looks okay this year to me.
Like Miami, I'll give, if this is credit, I don't know if it is or not.
I guess I would have thought that the team would have quit by now.
And I don't see the team quitting.
I think the team has been okay.
They've had stretches, they've had victories that, you know, what are they right now?
Are they two and three?
Are they one and four?
I would have to go check.
Dolphins standings, dolphins are one and four.
I'll tell you what
I'm going to put this out in the universe
should
Mr. McDaniel
lose his current occupation
Arizona will take you
as an offensive coordinator
offensive coordinator
and honestly instantaneously
yes if you
while you're walking out of the office
we will send a car to pick you up
and you can come to place
I will do it yeah we will
oh dude I will I'll fly
you know what I'll take blobfish to the airport too
I will take
Drew Patsing to the airport on my side, and you can bring Mike McDaniel.
Next year, McDaniel will go to a team and he will be an O.C., and I will be very interested in that team's offense.
Yeah, there are, it's wild because I think the worst coach by a long shot right now in the NFL is Aaron Glenn in New York.
Unfortunately, yeah.
He's a defensive-minded head coach that went there, made their defense worse and their offense worse and their team undisciplined.
Like, you just have to look at what's happening.
he's another one of those guys
I'm like, is he just a coordinator?
Like, is he just like a dominant defensive coordinator
but can't do the whole thing?
I don't know.
Right. Gets overwhelmed when it's everything.
Like I think we are learning and I, Jason and I,
we brought this up with Detroit.
Like the play calling in Detroit is great.
There's no Ben Johnson.
There's trick plays.
There's smart plays.
There's great play calling.
I think that you're at the point now in Detroit,
which we never thought we'd be at five, ten years ago.
We're the structure and the environment
and the head coach and the organization
and the general manager.
it is building like Aaron Glenn was there right
Aaron Glenn leaves he doesn't look like a good coach
you just wonder how much of the structure is really
supporting these coaches and that's a credit
that's a credit to the best head coaches in football
this was Bill Belichick's whole universe and Andy Reid's whole universe
yeah it's Reed I mean you have
guys leave and doesn't work yeah the Shanahan tree
and all of those guys like sometimes it works out sometimes
they're kind of shown to be like hey you don't have all of the
it's like the trellis for the vine the trellis isn't there
for these guys and
Yeah, Mike McDaniel, maybe a better OC.
Aaron Glenn, maybe better at D.C. I don't know.
But we'll find out. We'll find out if he's got a job next year or not.
One more, Nick from Gulf Breeze, Florida.
Okay. That's a cool sounding place.
Nico Collins and Tony Pollard for Josh Jacobs. Would you do that?
I need a solid running back. I would do that.
Yeah, I would definitely do that. Yeah, I think that's fine.
Tony Pollard is
The arrow is
As Tom said it's pointed down
That does not seem weird to me
I'm in between
It can just be pointed down
It doesn't have to be pointing down
Yeah I think it can be pointed down
It can be pointed down
That doesn't sound that
Who's okay with pointed over there
Instead of pointing
So we've got
The child over in the corner is good
Did you hear that Jalen Warren is looked up
things are really looked up for him right now
see that one sounds way weird
I mean I don't know if that's a fair example or not
I don't either
but it's funny
so you're saying if an arrow's on the wall
and it's facing downward
you can only say it's pointing downward
you can't say it's pointed down
because it almost means like
it's no longer doing that
it pointed down past tense
oh you think it's pointed it's pointed it doesn't
bother me. Oh, man.
When you said, when you... Now, the looked one is hilarious.
Yeah. When you
gave that example of the...
I think I almost got Mike on a spin-taker. I need that
on my board.
I don't think you do.
You got a big boo. That's like you'd hit it 65
times for the show. Just when we're talking about
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