Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Fantasy Football - Starts of the Week + Week 14 Breakdown, TESLAA TIME! - Podcast for 12/4

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Dec 4, 2025. It’s football time! Week 14 matchup previews and start/sit advice to help you make the fantasy football playoffs! Plus, Starts of the Week, injury updates, and forecasts for winter weather games. Get prepped and set your fantasy football lineups as Week 14 kicks off tonight! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(04:10) NFL News(09:40) Starts of the Week(09:45) QB Starts of the Week(11:55) RB Starts of the Week(14:00) WR Starts of the Week(15:25) TE Starts of the Week(18:00) Fantasy Forecast(21:15) Seahawks at Falcons(25:30) Bengals at Bills(28:50) Titans at Browns(33:05) Commanders at Vikings(39:00) Dolphins at Jets(44:40) Saints at BuccaneersConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. It's just the time! That was a pretty good scream there. All of that was pretty good. I didn't even feel like the electricity was that loud, maybe because the intro is playing. Is that a new cut, or is that the same one?

Same one. Oh, man. Well-timed, Mike. I'm impressed. He was ready. He is ready to ascend. The only thing that made me really sad is we do the prize picks for Friday face-off. And I can't do anything from the third.

Thursday game. Yeah, I know. I wanted to do J-Mo stuff and everything from this game tonight. More, more, more, more. I, it's more, more. No, I can't believe we got it's Tesla time. Of course we did. He's only in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve of our top fifteen starts-sixth questions of the week. Oh, that's, uh, I don't know if that's because of yesterday's show or

it was already that way. I mean, we're talking Metcab, Devin Neal, Troy Franklin, Devon Valet, Alec Pierce, Quentin Johnston, Roma Dunzee, Jaden Higgins, Chris Godwin, Chris Rodriguez. It makes sense because the matchup is there. And it's the, it's like a free entry into the game tonight. That matchup. It like off your waiver wire. It is. If you didn't have one of the players who are just established on your roster, you didn't, you don't get in on the action.

But Tesla is like, anyone, if you wanted to pay up on the waiver wire, you get a chance. It's a scratcher. Oh, yeah. I mean, 100% Tesla is a scratcher, and you don't always win at scratchers. But you can't win if you don't play. And Brooks said it's also a nice excuse to pivot from a disappointing player. Like if you're staring D.K. Meccaf down as a start. And then you go, there's this dude that has this electricity drop.

Who you start? Yeah. So. I mean, I've played D.K. enough to know that I don't want to do that. Yeah, he looks like a like a 90s fitness instructor. Is that Chuck Norris? I mean, uh, goodness. Yeah, Brooks just said that drop does feel louder. I make it, I make it a 2% louder every time I put it. I'm surprised if we don't do the red light or we should do yellow light while that happens. How did you not overproduced that? Yeah, my bad.

I mean, you overproduce everything. Listen, I apologize. You, okay. It should have been bright yellow through the entire studio. Get it fixed. Little buzzers in the seat that go off when it hits it. Just give you a budget, boys. I'm going to make it happen. Oh, crap. Welcome into the show. It's too late. Because if he doesn't do something tonight, the world will turn on him. Yeah, but if he does something

tonight, this has to be ready for tomorrow morning. Oh, yes. You know what I mean? We have a big show for you. Starts of the week today, the fantasy forecast getting into week 14 matchups it is playoff time or just about we're going to get you in there or do our best

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the footcast that's it join the foot dot com it's time for news news and notes from around the league presented by progressive insurance I have to start with the most mind blowing news. It just

caught me so off guard. The Ravens signed they signed Mark Andrews to a three-year $39 million contract extension with $25 million guaranteed. This was a player that felt like they were actively trying to push off the roster during the off-season and draft season.

You paid, Mark. Yeah, I mean, he wasn't under contract after this year. This was going to be a one-and-n-n situation. They're going to move on to Isaiah lightly, who now Isaiah likely is he also is not under contract. He's probably gone. Yeah, he's probably gone and Mark Andrews is the

new future for the Baltimore Ravens. Wild. Did not expect that at all. But an update for tonight, Amun Rost, St. Brown officially listed as questionable for tonight's game. He has not practiced at all. We are not expecting him to play. If he plays, if he plays, please don't play

to Slaw. Yeah, it really That is a very, very important if this then that. I am in full agreement and it would create such a horrific situation. You're in majority agreement. You're not in full agreement. I think you'd still be like, yeah, the matchup. I'm playing.

Yeah, exactly. You're not going to stop me from playing him. But, I mean, if he, if Amin Ra plays, that's just like, how do you, how do you not play him? And then every cut he makes, you're going to be like, oh, no. Yeah, there will be a re-injury chance for sure. Woody Marks will be fine for week 14 against the Chiefs. He was a DMP on Wednesday, but

DeMico Ryan's came out and said that. Parker, Washington, not practicing. We are not expecting him to play, but we will monitor the practice reports. Brian Thomas Jr. with an opportunity. Britain Strange still with the opportunity. And Jacoby Myers producing quite well for just arriving to the team. And they're winning ball games. Kyle Monongai Rome Adunze didn't practice on Wednesday.

you can't play him if he doesn't play jay no i can't um i i mean it's tough on a wednesday i haven't heard anything overly negative where you expect them to be gone but it's worth it's worth paying attention to because these aren't players that have been missing wednesday practices these aren't veterans that you're just used to giving that wednesday day off so we'll pay attention tomorrow jim harvall said omari and hampton is on track and looking good for week 14 he also said a bunch of complimentary stuff about Kamani Vidal. Yeah. It should be both of those guys. He said the proof is in the pudding

with the way he's played. He's played like a number one back and quote, it warms the cockles of the heart to see Vidal embrace contact. I mean, in December, this is the time of year to have the cockles of your heart warmed. Yeah. And Vidal

Sassoon is providing that for Mr. Harbaugh. Rico Dado will remain the team's primary early down back, according to Dave Canales. I mean, they're on by, but that is an interesting piece of information to put out there. Trey Benson, Marvin Harrison, Jr. both didn't practice on Wednesday for the Cardinals. Jonathan Gannon said, quote, we'll see about Benson.

Oh, Gannon. Gannon, into the cannon. Oh, yeah. Get out of my life. The Gannon, canon. We need it. In the sun, the moon. I don't care where.

It's funny because that is not out of our atmosphere. Yes. When things were looking up for the Cardinals, or there was hope or optimism. I mean, we were two and oh, by the way. You know this, right? We were two and oh. Yeah, with Kyler.

They're now three and nine. Week one was the Saints. Well, I don't remember who week two was, but I thought it was like the softest opening. It was. We played against nobody. Yeah, the Saints were the opening matchup.

Marvin Harrison, Jr. House is healed doing, okay, says Jonathan Gannon. He's giving no responses at all. He is, I mean, Gannon was like, oh, all kind of rosy and kind when things had hope. And now, while your team is doing bad and you're coaching poorly, you're like, I'm a grump. Yeah. We'll see. It's just like, what a turd.

That being said, both of these injuries seem significant. Marvin Harrison, Jr., they tried to get him back in the game when he hurt his heel last week. wasn't able to stay on the field, and now he's missing practice right now. So this is, like, worrisome for me. I'm not sure I would really even want to play him if he's active for fear that this is a reaggravation. And then Trey Benson, if he doesn't play this week, he's done for the year because his 21-day window is coming up. Big names for today's matchups. Drake Lund did not practice with the PCL.

T Higgins returned to a limited practice trying to get back from the concussion protocol Dalton Kincaid Limited Crystal Lave didn't practice re-agravated his back issue so we're monitoring that Mike Evans, Jalen McMillan both limited and their 21-day windows are open

that doesn't mean they'll play this week that was today's news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance Quote today at progressive.com Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions.

starts of the week well Mike I'll let you kick it off with your quarterback start of the week week 14 it's a big one I will say this is a interesting and hard week for starts of the week where it's like the no-brainers versus the where you're trying to find the matchup in the the good plays the sneaky plays it's it's a tougher week for it but this week I'm going with Trevor Lawrence I think he was one of our streamers of the week but I think he is worth a start we got the over under at 48 and a half. That's the third highest. He has been a top 12 quarterback in four of the past five weeks.

And the Colts defense, they're just, they're beatable. They're 28th and passing yards per game allowed. And 27th, the pressure rate so they're not getting to the quarterback. They're not stopping the pass. Trevor Lawrence, for all of his flaws, I think that he's in play this week. Well, my stream in the week is my start of the week. Jared, Gough himself. Jared.

Gerf. highest over under the week. We already know about this. The Dominator himself, he can propel you into the playoffs. Dallas has been a punching bag all year long against fantasy for fantasy quarterbacks.

Dead last in yards allowed, but don't worry. Also dead last in points allowed. Nice. We're just going to be dead last and everything and golf can be dead first in your lineup. I mean, you could call that first. Yeah.

You don't have to call it last. No. No. It's going to be great. Goff's going to be awesome. Regardless of, Dom-on-Raw situation. Yeah, he'll be fine.

The matchup is great. I'm going with Matthew Stafford. He's coming off of a week where he threw a pick six and another intercept. They lost, shockingly, to the Carolina Panthers. I think it's time he's going to get that MVP odds back up over Drake May again. He's number two right now in the odds. The Rams have the third highest implied team total. This is a really, really cold week.

Like all around the country, it's going to be games on the tournament. some snow. I love that this is just in a dome, kind of protected. He also ranks number one in passing touchdowns, number two in passer rating, and he's facing the lowest pressure rate in the NFL. The Cardinals aren't a scary defense, so I would have Stafford in my lineup this week. At running back, I think you can play Devon Neal this week against Tampa Bay. Whoa. The opportunities are there. Like week 12, 74% of the snaps, 14 opportunities. Last week, 82%, and he got up to 17 total opportunities, ran a route on 71% of the dropbacks, and since week nine, the Bucks have struggled a bit against fantasy running backs.

We had the Trevo game, James Cook, Bam Knight, had over 15 points against this Tampa Bay defense. So it is a, it's not a ceiling play, but if you're looking for someone who's just going to get a bunch of opportunities. Then Devin Neal and still be able to do something with it. I think he's playable. We know about the run funnel for the Buffalo defense. They're dead last in. rushing touchdowns allowed. 31st and 31st and yards per carry allowed 30th their schedule. 30-forced. 30-forced. Look, it all leads to Chase Brown of the Cincinnati Bengals against Buffalo this week. If you had the patience to stay with Brown, you've been rewarded. It was not a great start to the year. Not only was the team

injured, but he was awful, and yet he's basically doubled his fantasy production from week six to 13 per week from where he was at the beginning of the year. I love Chase Brown against Buffalo. All right. I'm going with Quinn Sean Judkins against the Tennessee Titans. If you look at the full season, the Titans are

really, really bad against the run. If you look at the last month, they've been getting much better against the run. However, this is still a situation where I am absolutely playing quench on Judkins. It's very rare to find the Browns in favored games where you expect them to win. They are in this matchup. They're four and a half point home favorites. And he's getting all the work. He's getting all of the red zone works. Six rushing touchdowns inside the red zone. That's as many as Henry or Jamir Gibbs. Since week six,

he's the only player in the NFL with 100% of their teams carries inside the five yard line. So I think he's got great touchdown opportunities here in this game. All right, a wide receiver. Okay, I got oh gosh, come on. Come on. Guys. Guys. Hit the button. Come on. Come on.

Go to Andy. That's fine. Also, give me the camera. Guys. Oh, this is perfect. Guys. This is perfect. Come on. What could go wrong? Come on. It's Jameson Williams.

Come on. Oh, my goodness. Go to Jason. It's Alman Raw. Let's hope Armand Raw doesn't play, guys. My wide receiver, I'm going with Michael Wilson in that...

Okay. So the news on Marvin Harrison is negative. I don't know for sure if he plays. I'm scared to play him, but Michael Wilson still had seven targets in a down game last week. He was still very involved.

Two out of the last three games, we know. He was amazing. You cannot run on the Rams, like at all. Bam Knight is not going to get it done against the Los Angeles Rams. I run from them. Yeah, and so they're going to have to throw the ball. Jacoby's going to throw for 250 plus, and I think Michael Wilson will be the number one wide receiver at the end of this game over Marvin Harrison.

If I had both and Marv was playing, I would play Michael Wilson. I just don't want people to completely go, hey, Wilson had a bad game. Marva was back, so you can't play Wilson. I don't think that's true. At the tight-end position, it's going to be insert Buffalo Bills, tight-end. They're playing the Bengals. We love the match-up. And I think we are, the latest that I've read on Dalton Kincaid is that it's trending to be, he'll be active.

And I'm just saying, like, if I have Dalton Kincaid and I've been trying to piecemeal a tight-end position from just the scraps on waivers, I would go right back to Dalton Kincaid. It carries risk because of, you know, miscarriage. time with, I'm pretty sure it's a hamstring, always risk of reaggravation. But he's been out long enough that I think once he's back, he will, like, he will have success against the Cincinnati Bengals. And should he miss, I think rolling the dice on Dawson Knox, if you're in a deeper league, does make sense. It's because the Bengals defenders don't see tight-ins. Yeah, it's somehow they don't, which is wild, because tight-ins are generally humongous. Yeah, they don't see it. You know me, I'm famous for a few sayings. Kids don't do drugs. That's one of the ones I always.

I always say that. And then I always say don't play Kyle Pitts. But this week I'm going to say play. What are you doing? Kyle Pitts. Last week, eight targets. You get to choose this, man. Seven for 82.

What are you doing? I don't think London's back. And I think Pitts is guaranteed for five in about this many. Festival cannot defend the tight end position either. He will not goose you, which is a big accomplishment for the tight end position. All right. I'm going with a better tight end. I'm going to go with Britain Strange.

against Indy. He returned after two months off with back-to-back, top five finishes. Last week, he was on the field for 83% of the snaps, had 45 yards and a touchdown. You know, if you're constantly getting goose eggs or you don't know what to do, you need, you know, to have more than five points at the tight-end position while hoping for a touchdown.

I think Strange is good. He's also got a great playoff schedule coming on, and this week takes on the Colts defense that ranks 28th in schedule. Schedule-adjusted fantasy points, 31st in receiving yards allowed to tight ends. So I think the matchup is good. The fact that you've got Parker Washington dealing with his injury as well. I'm happy to start Brenton Strange this week.

All righty. There you go. Kyle made all these bullet points for J-Mo and Tesla. We're not using any of those. We'll take a break. We'll get into the forecast. Fantasy Forecast, presented by prize picks. It's week 14, the 49ers, Giants, Panthers, and Patriots are taking a week off.

For my understanding, the Patriots, actually, they wanted to play, but they couldn't find anybody with a worse record than the teams they've already played. Right. And they're like, I guess we'll just face nobody. It's tough, man. It's going to be. It's tough. be fascinated. I'm not, yeah. I mean, it's basically the top picks in the draft. Like, if you want to look at their schedule, it's

the top picks in the draft. You get New Orleans and Tennessee and Cleveland and Atlanta and the Jets and the Bengals and the Giants and this is what we saw. I mean, they beat Tampa Bay. That was a tough game on the road. I want to give them credit for that. They beat Buffalo. 2320 on the road. They did lose to the Raiders and Pittsburgh. But you played the schedule in front of you. So the Patriots this year are I mean obviously they're playing a fourth place schedule you always want the fourth place schedules that works for you know the 49ers they got the easy schedule they're winning games the Patriots last year this was the commanders you know and it was like oh how how is it going to how are they going to fare when it's not the easiest schedule out there and it's tougher yeah no I look we I think Drake May is awesome I think I think having him a part of the story this year being a favorite as a young quarterback. We were talking about

the quarterbacks that were drafted last year with Jaden and Drake May and then Boe Nix and, you know, Caleb Williams and, like, that's a great new crop of quarterbacks. And J.J. McCarthy. And I'm too... And me!

It's not quite what we've gotten this year either. Like, we have Jackson Dart, who I think excites everybody. Tyler Shuck has impressed me. Tyler Shuck is He's not special

But not No I get They will draft a quarterback Because their jersey sales are not high That's all I'm saying But on film I'm just really I am still in my son came with

Came to me the other day I just told this to Mike He's like dad Dad, listen We got to buy Tyler Shuck cards We got to buy Tyler He's like I believe I believe in him

And I said it'll be tough Because they're going to be at the very tippy top of the draft Maybe the number one pick and Tyler Shuck is the Brandon Whedon of his generation. He is older. And you have to make this judgment call right away. Do you build your franchise around him?

And I just think it's going to be a hard, hard, hard sell. Because he might be more career backup type guy. I don't know. The way this year ends may determine what they do because they could trade the pick to a quarterback needy team. We already know their situation at the cap. They need more quantity of rookie contracts. The truth is, Shuck is playing for his job right now.

Because if he goes out there and wins two or three more games along the way in the last month, he's going to literally stop them from having the pick that will allow them to get the number one or number two quarterback. All righty, Seattle, 9 and 3, Atlanta, 4 and 8, that's our first matchup and Vegas line here, Seattle minus 7. I made Jason a Mike at lunch yesterday. This was funny. had just seen the brand new Super Bowl odds. Rams are number one, plus 435 or 425, whatever. And I made them try to guess the team that was number two in the Super Bowl to make the Super Bowl.

And we took about 10 guesses. We got, we nailed three, four, five, six, seven, eight. You got them all. But not number two. But number two is the Seattle Seahawks. Yeah. Same division as the Rams. Over under here, 44 and a half.

Kyle's note, birds of a different feather don't flock together. He's not feeling good about his falcons right now. Seattle's number one in point differential and points per game. Sam Darnold, it has not been good for fantasy the last four weeks against Arizona, the Rams, Tennessee, and Minnesota. Should be better this week. It should be better this week. We have seen the opportunities for Kenneth Walker increase as they should

because Mike has a he's just having a month I get just but he could do you know those those carries inside the five Ken Walker could do that he can do that just as well as Charbonnet I don't think that's true

I do Sharpenet's been really efficient in on those carries like he's actually been a very good like I don't blame them for doing something that's succeeding you know what I mean it's kind of like I want to be really upset that Tyler Algier in this same game

is used. Like, come on, Bijan can do that. But also, Daggummit, Tyler Alger is good too. It sucks. Yeah. Yeah, it's, uh, it should be a game that Seattle comes out and, and has a good performance for fantasy. Jackson Smith and Jigba should get right back on track. It is, it was very strange because he had been just so automatic. And last week, they kind of took them away. They still took care of business. Uh, we haven't seen Rashid Shaheed at all. I mean, he's four for 37. You talk about Jacobi Myers.

Very strange. Kobe Myers in Jacksonville has done a lot. Rashid Shaheed has maybe a foot still on the plane is what it feels like. Four for 37. And that's not like in one game. That's total since joining the team. Yeah. He is like a half, he plays about half the snaps.

He's just not getting targets. So decision-wise on this roster, it's not that complicated. I feel comfortable with both running backs if I had to. Yeah, this is, this seems. On the Seattle side, you're saying both Walker and Charbonne? Yeah, just gambling that you're going to get a touchdown from Charb's. Seems like it should be one of those weeks. And, you know, the Bejon performance last week, number one on the week.

You'll love to see it because it had been a little bit up and down. And they let him get a touchdown. They let him, yeah. This is very nice. He actually, if he goes five or six games without one, he turns in a ticket. And then they let him redeem it for one goal line opportunity. And then Alger takes the rest of them. but Drake London, if he's active

if he's back in this game, I assume you go right back to him. I would. It's a tough matchup. I look I'm hoping they don't play him this week. Just give him one more week to rest and have him come back in a better matchup. Start of the week, Kyle Pitts, I know you guys reacted strongly

but I think it'll be fine. Process-wise, it makes sense. What's hard about Kyle Pitts is the process is just, it doesn't matter to him. He doesn't care about our stats and when he's supposed to be good. He just is like, I'll be good, you know, once every six games or so. Yeah. Yeah, I tried to pick him up to playing this week because I don't have George Kittal. Yeah, no, it makes sense. And I'm not messing around

with anybody else. Yeah, I agree. Darnal Mooney, he's not done it. Kurt Cousins is, he's not, I mean, he's on the way out. I mean, it's quite clear. The arm is not the same. and that's changing a lot of the decisions. He's throwing 20 out of 24 passes under 10 yards. It's gross. So there you go. It's always a bummer to watch the decline. Happily play Seattle's defense.

Yep. Oh, yeah. Cincinnati, 4 and 8, Buffalo 8 and 4. This is a huge game. Palindrome game. Huge game. I mean, we have Buffalo 5.5 point favorites. The over under is 53 and a half.

Nice. The line opened to 51 and a half, so it's gone up. I think maybe, based on that news today, we'll get T. Higgins back. If you're limited on Wednesday, there's a decent chance you could be cleared by Friday. And so that would be big for the Bengals. It was interesting news because, like, as of Tuesday, it still felt very, very negative that T. Higgins was not going to be able to. But limited on a Wednesday, that should bring you some optimism. So what are your start-sit challenges in this one, Mike?

I don't know that there's really any challenges that because the Bengals are always easy. It's everybody, you know, it doesn't matter about the matchup. And then the over on the bills, Josh Allen and James Cook, of course. I like Dalton Kincaid. I like Don't Kincaid in general, but I really, really like him this week should he get back. And we just, the wide receivers still have not provided us any value. which is it still doesn't make sense

that Josh Allen can do Josh Allen things without wide receivers Yeah it's been I mean this game is pretty important to Buffalo too right I mean Cincinnati needs it For their best shot at

I mean I think there's a legitimate chance Cincinnati makes the playoffs There is I really really do I mean they have If they get through Buffalo they control their destiny At home against Baltimore right You get to face your your division mate

then you play Miami and Arizona okay then you play Cleveland so like these next two weeks are going to determine everything but if they win them both I think they're going to make the playoffs and I think they're yeah the division record is quite good let me go double check that yeah I think

they're three and one in the division I think they're the best record so they're thanks Joe Flacco Mike Thomas not happy I have I've I've seen some of the playoff estimators and the matchups and it is realistic that the could make the playoffs. Even if they lose this game, they still could in a somewhat

realistic way. Jason, Mike mentioned that Yoshibos was a backup option if T. Higgins misses the game. With a high over-under like this, I don't mind you trying to get a piece of that at 53 and a half. I would understand it. I was a little surprised to see that the over-under went from 51 to 53 and a half. There's, I mean, you could throw in snow, but there should be snow in this game. Very, very cold weather, 20 degrees. So, you know, I could see this turning into, you know, a James Cook Fest slowdown game as well. So to me, Yoshivas, especially with Tensley getting a bunch of targets last week, I'm not as excited, but obviously the game environment could end up becoming Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow, who's going to, whoever has the ball last, wins the game

because they just keep scoring. That's what the hope is. And play Higgins if he's active. I would. For sure. Tennessee's 1 and 11. They take on the 3 and 9 Browns. Oh, yeah.

Who did Tennessee beat? Yeah. Yeah, I know the answer. Our Arizona Cardinals. There's a reason I'm wearing a Diamondbacks hat today. The Tennessee Titans 1 and 11 with an implied point total in this game of 14 and a half. BORF. The Browns are four and a half-point favorites.

The over-unders, 33 and a half. How low can you go? Well, Tennessee is the number one pick right now. Cleveland, the number five pick right now. All right. This is not great. There's only been, wait, the overrunners 33 and a half? Yeah.

Wow. Well, this is, so Cam Ward has looked. better over the last month than he did the beginning of his career. But on the road with frigid temps against an unstoppable pass rush from the Cleveland Browns, I don't know how Tennessee can score. No, I mean. They're implied 14 and a half points. Like how are they getting 14.

I'm playing the Cleveland defense and then I benched all my other players. That's all I'm playing. Right. You guys said you had to set legal lineup last yesterday. That's legal to me. Right. It's illegal to have a full lineup and add this defense. No, I mean, it's going to be good.

Jason, your start of the week, quench on Judkins. You should get on track here in this one. Shoulder Sanders is a winnable game. But I'm not going to play you, and I'm not going to play your whiteouts. The only player I will consider on this team outside of Judkins is Fanon. I think Fanon is worth playing on pace for over 100 targets, had the big touchdown from him last week. I think I'm comfortable with Fanon.

I don't know if you guys are in the same boat with the low over under, but I am. I am uncomfortable with it, but I would, I understand it. Fanon is good. Yes. He's a rookie. Basically, that's it. It's like, hey, a talented player at a position where you're struggling for options, I'm okay with it. But I'm not excited.

I mean, obviously like Britain's Strange, my start of the week, I would start over Fanon. And this makes it really easy. Don't play any. Titans? None. Correct. Don't play any of them. Don't play running backs.

Don't play tight in. don't play wide receivers, don't play quarterbacks. To pretend the Titans are on by. The only player that you could play would be Jimmery, D.K., if you are in a return yards league. That's it. Well, yeah. I love that D.K. gave us the wide receiver 10 against Seattle.

And I was like, okay, we've seen some flashes of life here. You know, three top 16 performances in five games. his reward for those that had the courage negative points I will say if you want to say something about the Titans talk Dynasty talk Gunner Helm Chigokal will be gone

Gunner Helm has shown if you watch the tape looks pretty good to me has had four, six and six reception since the buy takes time for Titans to get going Dynasty leagues he's worth rostering the commanders are three and nine

the Vikings four and eight people are going to go to that game That other one? The Browns one? Yeah. Yeah. Thousands. People are going to spend... Tens of thousands.

Money and their time. I just have... And they're going to go to that. I've got two words for them. Hot toddies. Yeah. Yeah. Hot toddy.

Hot toddy. And it's... On a lot of them. Do you think they just serve those at every hot dog stand? Yeah. Doubles. Just a hot toddy machine. It's going to be freezing.

And this is just... It's... It's mean. It's downright mean. It's not okay. That the NFL is allowing this to happen. At least this is close to our, somebody called it the dung bowl. This is close to the battle, like in bad weather between the two worst teams.

Like this is a fair punishment. Yeah, this, why isn't it snowing heavily in this one? This is where the snow should go. Yeah, move the snow to the worst teams. But I don't want to talk about this one anymore. Okay. The commanders are three and nine, the Vikings, four and eight, Minnesota, two and a half point favorites. The overrunner's 42 and a half.

I guess it's part of our job to be hyperbolic and overstate things and say something entertaining. I don't know how untrue this is. This might be your career, JJ. In a real way. This game. This game and the following couple games, but this one in particular,

if you're at home against Washington, you want to be, this is the game that decides if you're a career backup. or not. I really think so. Well, he couldn't ask for a better get right game. Well, next week is Dallas. Well, sure.

I mean, Dallas. I mean, this combo here. But for the offense to be able to get moving, right now the commanders, I mean, their defense has not shown up this season. And I don't even blame it on the Jaden Daniels injury and the offense putting them in bad situations. Mariotas looked

good. Mario has performed well. And I don't think that the team is giving effort. I don't know what it is because I feel like their defense was better last year. But on the course of the season, they're 28th against quarterback, 30th against running backs, 22nd against wide receivers, 28th against tight ends. They are not a tough matchup. This is what I mean, man.

You're at home. You have to have a game that shows a flash. You're in a dome. You've got an easy defense. Do something. Do it. Yeah, and throw the ball to Justin Jefferson.

It's the shy of above. Yeah. Do it. Do it. Throw the ball to Jefferson. Throw the ball to Addison. Hawkinson. Don't throw to him.

He's actually been like six for 59 last week. Okay. He had a deep reception line. The 29-yard catch, it was pretty good. So all the Jefferson questions, like if you can't, if you can't play Jefferson in this game, you will never need, there's never a time to play him again. this season. That's the real truth.

If you can't play him against the 31st ranked Washington wide receiver defense at home with JJ, because they're not getting, there's no cavalry. There's no other quarterbacks showing up. Yeah. This is like, yes, you play JJ to me. Yeah, he's my new start of the week. Jefferson? Yes, Justin Jefferson. That's fine. Yeah, I allow the pivot. People need it. Justin Jefferson absolutely should be started. So like Justin Jefferson and Michael Wilson, the guy I said, I would be starting

Justin Jefferson. I know he's always. I know he's only scoring like eight fantasy points a game in his starts with nine, but this, this is, this is a good matchup. Justin Jefferson's probably the best wide receiver in the National Football League. It will be a get right situation. Yeah, I just, man, man, he is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Oh, he's got ten interceptions, not nine. I thought nine was maybe an interception nickname for McCarthy. Brasmer. It was.

You're the backup. Play your running backs, whoever's starting in Minnesota? Are you okay with that or not really? You should be. If Aaron Jones was limited on Wednesday, it makes sense

to play them, but I would be terrified. If both are active, if Aaron Jones doesn't play, then you're like, okay, I get it. I can jam Jordan Mason in there at a flex spot. You guys might disagree with me on this, but I am completely comfortable with Terry McClorn in this game. I look at

Marcus Mariotta as kind of like Brissette Light right now, where the production is going to be there. I mean, I think he's been over 210 passing yards in every one of his starts or close to it. I mean, I have no problem with him in this game, and they may have some short fields. He's been very, very good, and

I would, I want to say, against the Vikings defense, I mean, We saw them just shut down JSN completely for the first time all season. So it scares me a little bit. But what we saw last week was against the tough Denver defense. So he's okay to me. You would start, Chris Arderagas, if you had to start a commander running back? Yes.

Yeah. That is one area of the Vikings 20th in the last six weeks. You guys remember Bill? man i was running out of those bill krosky jokes and he did me a solid he's like i got you you're not going to need those anymore you should take that drop and slow it down and twist it up and make a sad version it's oh i'm just a bill yeah it's not good uh debo is he a flex play i would prefer not he seemed pretty bad banged up during that last game. I don't, I don't know.

He's been top 36, three straight weeks with Mariotta. I would, the defense freaks me out. I prefer to play McLaurin and not deep. Zach Ertz or Kyle Pitts? Zach Ertz last week. 13 targets, 10 catches. Yeah, Ertz. Ertz is way better than Kyle Pitts.

All right. We'll take a break. We'll get into some more matchups. But see what I mean. I'm like, this week is weird. where it's like you have your guys, you're like, I would never bench them no matter what. And everyone else, you're like, oh, everyone, everyone's just red flags everywhere. I was just thinking about the fact that,

what year is this for Kyle Pitts? Four? Is it four or five? Year four? Five. Imagine when he was drafted if I told you, I go, hey, this is year five? Hey, by the way, in four years from now, you're going to still think Zacherts is better than him.

That sentence wouldn't have been real. Miami's 5 and 7 still fighting New York the Jets they still have a franchise 3 and 9 at home Miami favored by 2 and a half over under 41 and a half here's more weird for you Mike

we get we get these 33 40 41 yeah Miami's won 4 of 5 guys 4 of 5 impressive and they had lost like a bunch of 1 score games it could have beat the Chargers right they had a bunch of close games they're really

it's a credit to their head coach. Sure. In my opinion. No, when things are bad, you know, we dunk on people. Yeah, they're not playing. I mean... Give him the accolades if he's performing. Exactly.

And the alternative is John Gannon. The Jets will start to Rod Taylor again, Breece Hall. Referred to himself as a decoy? He referred to himself as a decoy last week because the plan was to throw the ball a lot. Just call me decoy. but you could throw the ball to Brees

I don't the transition of what this team was at the beginning of the year when they were you know they had the compliment it was Brees Hall it's Brelin Allen

Braylen Allen's the hammer uh it Brees is still getting work on the ground but they're throwing to him a ton four targets three six six five and then Braylin Allen gets hurt and like no we don't throw it to Bruce Hall anymore it's so bizarre

it just hasn't been like the Justin Fields. Like, we hadn't seen Justin Fields or Tarot Taylor, really, with Breecella, and it just hasn't happened. They've been trying to really use Adonai Mitchell and John Mechie and some of these, you know, Mason Taylor. I don't get excited about playing a jet right now.

But I do think there's an opportunity. Yeah, and are we are you ping ponging? Like, are you going, you know, two weeks ago it was Mechie. Last week, Adonai was the one who came through. they're being asked about a lot. I'm staying with Adonai. Okay. Yeah, I'm staying with Adonai because I want touchdowns. Yeah, you want the deep shot. Yeah, they're going to take shots. You know, 39% targets here.

Mechie is insane. I think his floor is maybe higher because easier connections, but Adonai Mitchell, he'll get some deep shots a la an Alec Pierce where you just connect on one of those in your fantasy day is way better. Yeah, 100 yards last week. You're not going to get that with Metschi. Six, seven, 12 targets. wants everyone to know that that meowson taylor still hasn't forced to miss tackle he tracks it very closely i mean how have you not forced to miss tackle yet um i don't know mike yeah you do meow that's on 39 catches 39 catches make something happen i don't know man i don't know kyle find us let me know if other tight ends are in the same boat or if he if he really is standing alone.

Oh, that would be real fun. I would like to know. That's your job for the rest of the show. Al's busy making lightning effects, and your job is to figure out of Mielsen Taylor is a lone kitty cat or not. On the other side, Devon A-chan is a machine. I brought up Ollie Gordon as a backup option

because the matchup is so good. I do think they'll give him work. He is a great compliment. He had nine carries two weeks ago. He only had three this past week. it was a tighter game. Like if they have a real back and forth affair, maybe he'll get out there.

Jalen Wadle, I've been a little bummed out. He is worth a discussion because the target share is there, but this is turned, the team has transformed. Like the McDaniel, Tua, Tyreek, everything is high flying.

That doesn't seem to be the path forward anymore. So while Jalen Waddle is alone, and consuming most of the pie, the pie has really shrunk. And then he hasn't made the most of his opportunities, whether that's Tua's fault or not. He had three great weeks, kind of post-Tyriek injury,

but his catch rate the last two weeks, 43 and 50%. Yeah, it's been disappointing. I'm still going to be starting Waddle every week. This matchup is not a great one for him. The Jets, while their defense is not great, you run on the Jets. They're top five against wide receivers

when you adjust for the schedule. So Waddle is in a slightly tough situation here, but the 33% target share, that's what I am targeting is. I want guys who are getting the ball thrown their way. Let's go directly to our kitty cat reporter. Kyle, Kyle, what is the report on Mason Taylor's breaking tackle situation? Meow! Oh, man.

So the report is he is alone above 20 receptions with no forced mistackles? correct is that your way of telling me Zach Gertz has broken a tackle yes oh my goodness wow yeah they said it couldn't be done so this is not a this is not a bit this is accurate all the analysis all the bits are accurate yeah those are the best bits really so all other tight ends who have not forced to miss tackle have fewer than 20 receptions and he's at 30 he's at nearly 40 maybe he's just not into that oh I mean no he's not Darren Waller is the play of the day for me in this entire game. He's the most exciting for me because this is a position of great need and fantasy.

He was out there running routes in his first game back and you're going to get more acclimated. The matchup on the year it's good against the Jets, not in recent weeks, but I don't care. I'm going to play Darren Waller. Yeah, I'm with you. The New Orleans Saints. Let's just keep talking about teams that the Patriots have beaten. All right, the Saints are two and ten. I don't know, man.

He's turned in a dunk on the Patriots, the number one team in the AMC? I don't know, dude. I vacillate between my love of Drake May and Mike Rable and my hatred of the dynastic success of the Patriots for so many years where I'm like, let somebody else have something. Yeah. And now they're back atop the division. I don't care, man. The Saints are 2 and 10. The Buccaneers are 7 and 5.

Tampa Bay, 8.5 point favorites. They need this one. the overrunner is 42 and a half. This is the largest spread of week 14, eight and a half points. Tampa Bay beat him 23 to 3 in week 8. Tyler's Huck has been playing well. I think it is a...

He has. It will be a really bad situation, though, for them if Chris Oliva misses this game. He is so much of a go-to guy. Win needed, mind you, he did cost him the entire game last week, but also they wouldn't have been there without him. Yeah, but he switched it. He's had 10 plus fantasy points in six or seven weeks,

If he's active, are you right back to him? Figuring he can make it through the back injury. I mean, he was my start of the week prior to the injury. I like the matchup. I like what I've been seeing with Shuck. He has been much, much better. And the matchup is pretty good. I mean, they're going to have to throw the ball.

Now, if Olavé doesn't play, Velae. I think even if Olave plays, Velae is at least interesting of we really have, you know, I think we have, what, four games of Shuck. We have three games of actual full-time DeVon Vele for the New Orleans Saints. It was the week before the buy that he jumped from being like a mid-20% of the snaps type of a play, 30% all the way up to 87. And that's where he has stayed. He is a full-time player.

And now back-to-back weeks, seven targets against Atlanta didn't turn into production. But we at least saw some signs of life. And then he caught all eight of his targets against Miami. Let's have a little fun with Tyler Shuck for the people out there. We haven't got to talk about him much this year. He's got his opportunity. I want you to guess some numbers for me. Just looking at his last three games, if you projected over a season, first of all, blowing

the way that Caleb Williams completion percentage. Oh, for sure. Do you know where he's at? It's a nice number. I was going to say about 70, 69%. 69%. He's on pace for, again, three-game sample, 4,300 yards, 23 touchdowns. Yeah, we're cutting out the end.

11 picks. Cutting out his first start. I think it's fine. I think that's appropriate to cut out the first start. Okay. Mind you, it was against Tampa, which he plays this week. But, yeah, I mean, you need to. You've never taken a snap in the NFL.

I think you look at where you're trending. And I'm just throwing it out there. He's on pace for a solid season, a starter-worthy season. Yeah. Certainly a better season than Cam Ward, statistically. Yeah. Cam Ward, I think, is on pace for 10 touchdowns. Which would be, like, the lowest ever or something?

I mean, yeah, the... Is that true? Well, he has seven right now, and he's playing every week. So that, the math checks out. Also the same amount of interceptions. Yeah, on pace for 10 passing touchdowns. Fewest passing touchdowns for a quarterback to start all 17 games would be Trevor Lawrence, who got to 12.

And I don't, I just don't know how to feel about the Cam Ward situation overall. Because if you told me that you... It's not feeling better. If you told me that you get a lot of... and Joanne Johnson and Bailey and Camara for your team, or you get Chimre D.K. and Iommanner as your starters. He had a rookie. He had Ridley for, you know, the first half of the year. Ridley missed quite a bit of time. And he just wasn't good.

Yeah. I don't, I mean, you're, it, a lot falls at his feet. I'm just saying he, he, yeah. So it is what it is. Tampa Bay, they should be able to handle business. Bucky Irving, it was great to see. They went right. to him. There was no limiting of the touches. 19 running back touches. Five for white, two for Tucker. Ameca, Buka, is he a must start anymore?

Who? Jason? Emika a big boo. I don't think he is a must start guy every week. He needs to be. Let's play the name game. Brian Thomas Jr. Or Emeka, Buka. Oh, man.

That was dirty. I'm playing a buca in that situation I don't think that you're going to see Evans or McMillan this week in which case I'm going to take the targets Abuka or Terry Andy well Andy said he was the Terry guy

I know a buca all right abuca or Devante Smith against the Chargers Jason? Devante Smith. All right. Yeah, I mean, this, it does feel like kind of, we need a game.

I mean, we have seven, his last seven games, he's had one where he scored 10 points. He's had one where he scored eight points. And he's on pace for 153 targets in that stretch. It's really confusing. It is confusing. And he had the hamstring injury and everything has happened since the hamstring injury. So I just get a little, like, are we fools? We're not, look, here's the truth.

Igbuka is awesome. Yes. He is a great wide receiver. He is an unbelievable route runner, has great hands. He's in a very tough. Yeah, 791 receiving yards already. Yeah. But it's a tough run.

But that's where I'm going. I'm okay. I'm okay with it. I, um, I'm a little nervous, but I'm okay with it. You talked about Devin Neal, Mike, at running back on the other side. I forgot to mention him on the way down. The opportunities will be there. John Johnson, it's a dart throw at tight-in

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