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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore,
and Mike Wright. Welcome in!
Thursday March 20th, the Fantasy Footballers, Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway back
with you.
Thank you for joining us. Thank you for joining us,
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thank you for being with us all year round
as we enjoy the emotional roller coaster
that is fantasy football.
Thank you for being better than your league mates,
for being competitive and loving fantasy football.
Yeah, and we said it on the last episode,
the draft is right, I mean, it's right around the corner.
It really is.
And that's wild.
It's exciting, it's fun.
Today we have a, it should be a good show.
We're doing some Liar Liar on the show today,
which is always a really good time.
We're playing some games.
Yeah, we're playing some games today.
Kyle the Borgogin put together The Liar Liar.
Just got us some two truths and a lie.
We'll try to figure that out on the fly.
Have no idea what that segment's gonna entail.
We are, we're recording a bit early
because the kids are on spring break.
This is like field day.
Oh yeah, yeah.
This is like, this is field day for us. Yeah. Because we're all
getting ready to go on to our spring break. But we had to look we got to get a show out
for everybody. So yeah. When school is like field day. Yeah. Yeah. No that's good. We
don't have anything to teach. Let's just make a run around. Yeah. Or if you're in Arizona
water day. Which my that was the best.
Like, the reason I thought of that is because my son
is legit, has field day today.
And he is furious because they had removed
all the water stuff.
Come on, man.
Wait, have you, have you felt how cold it is today?
When they planned it, they didn't realize
that we were gonna have this weird cold vortex
come into Arizona.
At our school, Jason, I'm sure you did the same thing. It was leaky can races.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Over the head.
Over the head. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm getting nods from the solo deucer back there in Deucer's Alley.
We did those as well. It was a good time.
It was like this full on double dare stuff.
Yeah. Yeah. Fun times. All right. Field day for the footballers going on.
Today we got a giveaway
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All right, we're gonna play some who am I? I'm gonna give you clues one at a time. They'll become
You know less helpful to more helpful in the clue department. If you think you know the answer let me know
Okay, but keep it keep it quiet so people at home could play along
A little bit of who am I? Keep it on the low. Yeah, keep it on the low. All right, clue number one.
I have finished.
I know who it is.
Oh boy.
Wow, take your guess, Mike.
That's it, you're locked.
I wrote it down.
No, I have finished as a top 12 fantasy running back
one time.
Okay, I got a running back.
In my six year career.
Six years.
And it was not 2024. Okay. All right. Okay. So one timer, six years.
Now, is this way? Is this he's going into your seven? I have finished as a top 12 fantasy
running back one time in my six year career. It was not 2024. So I assume neither of you are locking in on that. No clue number two in
2024 I had more receptions than Saquon Barkley
Kyron Williams and James Cook
Even though I played in fewer games than each of them
Hmm
So in this so in this past year going into year seven in this past year, going into year seven, in this past year, so the clues here in the
past year wasn't a top 12 fantasy running back, but has been, but has been.
And also in 2024 did have more receptions in Saquon, Kyron and James Cook.
On the second contract missed games.
You're putting the Jason's doing the mental exercises.
Nobody locked in.
I have a guess. I don't yet.
But you're not locking. No, I'm not locking. That's not enough.
You're not going for a clue to lock.
That's too spicy. That's big points.
Do I get big points? Of course.
I will lock the heck out of this. Of course you get big points.
I am locked. Big points. Big points.
Doesn't know what points are. Doesn't know how how many to win but gets big points
There's only one so you're locked. There's not even like rounds to this
No, I like your so you're locked
But if you lock first before Mike and you get it right you win, okay?
That is I am 100% locked okay. I reserve the right to change my mind
that is
He's locked but he has the key.
Yeah, exactly.
Look, I locked it.
I locked it, I can unlock it.
Alright, clue number three.
There's a button, you push it, it just wipes the board.
Yeah, you do have one of those little, uh, what are they called?
Boogie boards?
Clue three.
2024 was my first season.
Below 200 rushing attempts. Below 800 rushing yards. Clue three, 2024 was my first season
below 200 rushing attempts, below 800 rushing yards.
And I had 240 fewer rushing yards than the year prior.
I don't like that for my luck.
Is that not fit with your luck?
Say it one more time for the people.
Yeah, in 2024 it was my first season
below 200 rushing attempts, below 800 rushing yards.
And I had 240 fewer rushing yards than the year before.
Wow.
I have my name down.
That really, really, really.
Uh-oh, unlock.
I'm unlocked.
You're unlocked.
I'm unlocked.
Well, who were you locking?
I think it's bad to share.
I was thinking Tony Pollard.
His second contract missed a couple games.
That's the name I just wrote down.
But I don't know that he's been over 200 carries his whole career. I feel like he was an efficiency
guy.
I think it's good to have people hear you.
Wait, 2024 was my first season below. Oh yeah, then it can't be him.
But I do have another right.
You heard above.
Yeah.
So yeah, Kyle apparently had been
guessing Tony Pollard on his side. Tony Pollard is not the answer. No. So for
those of you at home... After rereading clue three, it was very obvious it was not
Tony Pollard. So one top 12 finish in a six-year career. Okay. More receptions
last year than Barclay, Kyron, and James Cook. Not combined, but each of them individually.
But played less games than them.
And fewer than 200 rushing attempts last year.
Below 800 rushing yards.
And 240 fewer rushing yards than the prior year.
I'm locked.
Oh, you're locked.
I'm locked.
OK.
That's still pretty big points.
Yeah.
That's pretty good.
That's not big, big points.
No, but that's a. You do have a slight deduction for locking and unlocking them
Mike are you you're not locked? No, okay clue number four
I
Still manage this one's gonna this one's gonna make it easier. I still managed to score 12 rushing
Yep touchdowns in 2024. Jason is, if you're on
the YouTube, you can see some initials on the board.
From what I can see, it looks like BM.
Yeah, good healthy bowel movement.
It's not BM, but the initials are DM.
Okay, and that's what you're going with?
That's who he's letting a lock. Yeah, I'm locked.
Doug Martin. Which those at home, I mean if you're still playing along, you know what,
DM stands for? Dungeon Master, yes. We all know. Mike, you want the last clue? Yeah,
I want the last clue. Last clue is my show nickname got used when I had more opportunities. Yes. Yes, the answer is DeMarco Murray.
No, it's David Montgomery, which sometimes it's fun to see it laid out that way because
to look at last year and say it's his first year, fewer than 200 rushing attempts, below
800 rushing yards, he got hurt. The one thing that surprised me the most
was actually that David Montgomery has only been
an RB1 once?
That was the hesitation I had of-
That threw me off.
That's surprising.
Yeah.
Let's see where he actually-
He did it in year two when he put up 1,070 on the ground.
Wow, and then
he's really and caught fifty four passes and then he was fringe in twenty twenty three.
Yeah I mean that that was the thing is yeah he was just one spot after it's surprising
that a guy can have thirteen rushing touchdowns and not crack the top twelve. Yeah, what is your general sentiment around DM next year?
Around David Montgomery, where I think a lot of people
believe that this is gonna be Jameer Gibbs' peak seasons?
And Dave Montgomery is-
I am pretty bullish on David Montgomery being a value
in drafts.
We see this from time to time.
We saw it with Alvin Camero in back-to-back years where you're playing awesome.
You're having an excellent year.
For fantasy, you're gold.
And then you miss the most important part of the playoffs.
The end of the season comes around.
You let me down and you're older.
So not everyone is scared,
like it's just going to go away. The Detroit Lions are, even if David Montgomery gets a
little less and Jameer Gibbs gets a little more, which totally can see that happening,
this is not a team that's going to say, David, you're out. Like they gave him a contract
extension. How old do you think he is? Do you already know the answer? I don't know.
I would guess just under 28.
Yeah, right around 28.
Yeah, he's 27.8.
Yeah, wow.
Three years left on the contract.
Yeah, three years left on the contract.
So value for fantasy. He's got money.
He's great for the team, he's excellent around the goal line.
So will he be a top 12 running back next year?
No.
Will he be a value for wherever he's drafted?
Absolutely.
Barring injury, I don't see a world
where 28-year-old David Montgomery behind that offensive
line disappoints and doesn't get opportunities next year.
Yeah, it's interesting.
He had the reception stat there, right,
where he was
Despite playing 14 games that was that was a little I mean yes, that's cool Yeah, 36 last year that was what I was gonna say
He it's not like he had a ton of receptions they picked out guys who had great fantasy seasons with
Surprisingly few receptions. I tried to trick you yeahquon, for being the number one running back
had it.
It is a game that I won.
You did.
Yeah, you got some points.
And yeah, Monte.
Because of unlocking.
Just letting you know, in normal game show format,
when you smash the button, you give your answer.
Yeah, if you had locked Tony Pollard,
you would have been the first wrong guy.
Yeah, I didn't.
I unlocked.
You did.
You play the game the way you...
Win by any means necessary.
Now, what about the 14 games in two consecutive years?
Is that a concern?
I don't think it's a concern.
He's built for a workload.
I mean, you can argue, one, that that's
a pretty good amount of games for running backs
to finish and consecutive
You expect to miss one to two a year also
He tore his ACL and was done for his career and then played in the playoffs
You know what? Was it that what was it an ACL? No, well, it was a fear of whatever it was
Yeah, it was it was gonna shut him down for the year. Yeah, and then he got like 17
17 doctor opinions until he got the one that's
like no you're good bro just. He just had to keep going down. Eventually we went to
Bob. He's on 5th Street. He cleared me. We're good to go. You can find a doctor on Instagram
Reels I think. He just kept going doctor on demand refresh. What do you think about this
picture? No? Okay next one. Refresh. What do you think about this picture? No? Okay, next one. Refresh. What do you think about this?
All right.
Let's go ahead and we'll take an early break and then we'll jump into Liar Liar.
All right.
Look, I wasn't participating in the last game.
I was just walking you two through it, Jason, dominant victory and but I'm playing along in this one so let's do it
liar liar pants on fire all right so be boppy you got that
spitballers uh apparently this is the sixth time we've played Liar Liar, Kyle has put this entire Liar Liar segment
together today, how many rounds are we doing?
Three rounds?
Three rounds.
That is correct.
Three rounds, Kyle, is he on the microphone?
People can hear him?
Yes sir.
That's a shame.
Yeah.
All right, round.
Sorry about that everybody.
Round one, titled Dubious Dist Yeah. All right. Sorry about that everybody. Round one, titled
dubious distinctions. Dubious. So the way this works is I'm gonna read three
supposed facts. Two of them are absolutely true. One of them is
absolutely a Kyle manufactured lie. I hope he manufactures lies better than owl on the spitballers because I still I have watched my dogs not
Be in the direction of north and south when they poop isn't that was not a fact anyways, okay?
That's that's a deep cut
Here's stat number one or fact number one. I think that's a your dog problem
It's both of them, so he's saying my dogs, okay?
It's not a fact.
What was the concept?
The concept was that dogs always poop facing.
A strong preference for aligning their bodies
along the north-south axis when defecating.
So strong preference.
That was not how, it was not worded strong preference.
Yes it was. Yes it was, worded strong preference yes it was it
was it was do do do do do do do now yeah I have no idea how I worded it yeah it
would definitely wasn't worded like that it should have been and Jason's
contention was that they do not they do not always which is how the word I will
let you know what I put in the dock yeah I know if you spun a human around if you spun a human around in a circle a bunch of times and then let them go
And have them and and have them nap. Yes. Well, I mean eventually like you have them naturally
choose
Which direction they would sit?
Go to the bathroom would humans do I would sit forward on the toilet each time
No, there's a hole in the ground in this situation.
No, there's no, I would not look at the sun
and be like, I'd like the sun on my back.
Yeah, I'd be barfing in the hole.
All right, we are getting away from this game.
All right, round one.
Dubious.
Three supposed facts here.
Will Levis has more starts with three or more turnovers
in his career than starts with two or more
passing touchdowns.
Oh, that one seems good.
That one seems definitely.
Say that one more time, I didn't follow that.
More starts with three or more turnovers.
Okay.
Then starts with two or more passing touchdowns.
Holy moly.
That seems very plausible.
Stat number two, fact number two,
James Connor has 34 rushes that have gained
10 plus yards, fourth most among all running backs, and none of them resulted in a touchdown.
That feels so, so true. I mean, that guy breaks...
I mean, he had multiple...
Chunk plays every time and he's never broken away in his life.
Yeah, I was going to say, there's multiple times I thought he was gonna score and he didn't, I know that. And the third
fact slash maybe lie,
Jalen Warren is known as a valuable receiving back
through three seasons and 604 routes run,
he has never gotten closer to the end zone
than the opponent's four yard line after a reception.
I know he did not have any receiving touchdowns
this last year, but I don't know
if that's being used against us here.
Yeah.
I feel like if I know Kyle,
he would want to amplify your somewhat unsubstantiated
hatred of Jalen Warren.
Oh, I was thinking you were going, like the
Will Levis one, the Will Levis one to me seems like one of those where because we
know he turns ball over a lot and we love you know making fun of banana Rama
that you would just amplify the bad and we'll just accept it as true but you
think that... I think he wants to keep you with the necessary ammo
to dislike Jalen Warren, who will probably be
the starting running back next year,
and probably a good pick.
I want this said really clearly, because it is a,
this is a fact.
I think Jalen Warren is an excellent football player,
and if he is the guy next year,
I am all in on Jalen Warren
Okay, my dislike of Jalen Warren was ten points for game was the while he was the backup to Naji
He wasn't good for fantasy. I think the will levestat is the lie
I'm gonna lock that in and we'll take turns being the first person to lock. Okay, but I'm gonna be all threes a lot
I I think that will levestat is a
misdirection by Kyle and I'm gonna go
I'm gonna lock that one in as the lie. I think the Connor one's true. I think the
Warren one's true. I'm very happy you locked in the Will Levis because I
could see it going that way. I'm gonna lock in the Jalen Warren because he's
been such a good receiving back but if he has not gotten to the goal line ever or even closer than the
four yard line it would be surprising seems like a great find if that is true
Mike it's decision time do we do we play the game oh cuz you're saying if we
could all make it one of us will make it through I wouldn't play the game I try
to get it right all right well it's it's us versus Kyle which is it's an
important thing that
that we win. But he's he's remote. We can just hang up on him. You know, I'm going to go
with the Warren one. All right. Two votes for Warren. My choice was Will Levis. Kyle,
are you going to be the one revealing here or or Al, or? I'll let Kyle do the honors. What's the actual lie here?
The lie is Will Levis.
Ooh!
Three games with three turnovers.
You were right on, Andy.
Okay. All right.
All right, so I'm alive.
Andy's in the lead.
I'm alive.
Kyle is getting us ready for round two,
which he has titled Certifiably Insane Statistics.
Here we go.
I'm sure this is gonna get bad.
Kyle is, takes a lot of pride in this stuff.
Stat number one, Cardinals tight end Trey McBride
is a certifiable beast.
He recorded.
That's fact.
Next, next question.
You can't have a half lie.
Right, he recorded the most receptions ever
for any tight end over their final eight games played in a season.
Hmm. That...
Possible.
That feels possible because it started slow for Trey McBride because the Cardinals were being buffoons.
So that one...
Man.
Yeah, that one feels plausible.
Yeah, that one feels plausible. Number two, Brock Bowers finished as the tight end one with a rookie record of 112 receptions,
that's true, yet he gained the fewest fantasy points of any top 10 tight end on plays inside
the 10 yard line since the George W. Bush administration ended.
Kyle, how convoluted does the stat have to be?
This one's pretty convoluted and true, I bet.
I bet that one's true.
The fewest fantasy, but not just-
How many times do you work the George Bush administration
into a show?
It's not the Bush one, it's just-
It's the time.
It's fun to call back to, you're like,
hey, we haven't seen this since Jimmy Carter.
Yeah, it is. It is a fun thing to say.
Now, this is, I thought at first that this was the fewest fantasy points of any of those
tight end ones, but this is the fewest fantasy points of any top ten tight end.
Inside the ten.
Right, right, right. Inside the ten. I'm just thinking it doesn't take much to be a top
ten tight end.
Did he really do that? He didn't score a lot, but you would think that McBride had fewer than Bowers because McBride didn't score.
Well McBride scored two touchdowns inside the 10 that were not receiving. Yeah, so three total. So three total.
Yeah. Bowers had what like five touchdowns?
I have no idea right now.
Alright, the third stat here, Nick Westbrook-Akine is the only player in NFL history to total nine
receiving touchdowns in a season that all
occurred within one time zone.
Oh my gosh, Kyle, you're so stupid.
So when you say certifiably insane stats,
I interpreted that as like these stats will blow you away.
I think the key word here is insane.
An insane person would find these stats.
That's the key. Yeah. You're right on. And you're in your history and you're going this
is that would be central time zone. And Tennessee is is Tennessee in central. Nashville is central.
Yeah. I mean, how would you know this? Also, like what database do you go to compare? Like, I get that you could look at Nick Westbrook of K&A
and say, oh, look, all of his were in one time zone.
But now, how do you compare that to all of NFL history?
You got a time zone reference guide?
And what cocktail of drugs did you
combine to develop these stats?
Guys, I'm stuck on Tennessee is in central?
What do you think there, EST?
I'm looking at a map of the United States and where the middle line is.
It's a split.
And Tennessee is very clearly not in the middle.
Oh, so Tennessee is half eastern, half central.
Half their state is on one?
That happens, that happens that happens
It's okay. No, that's not okay. Well dumb
You're like over here is two o'clock over here is one o'clock
I mean you do that anywhere you do literally wherever it changes whether it's a state line
I'm not in the middle. I have to go across a border
There's there's people who check and make sure that I'm not bringing in fresh produce. Only in California. I don't know but they don't
check the produce in Tennessee on this line though. This is that's absurd.
Kentucky. Yeah I was gonna say Kentucky you're gonna have a problem with. The
panhandle down in Florida. A little bit of Florida. And y'all need to get it
together. What is happening? Mike has strong opinions. Mike scrapes.
Because look how it curves.
So look at the, what the youp of Michigan,
is that what they call it?
They're listening on a podcast.
Nobody can look at anything.
I know what you're saying, but also it's a globe.
So while we're looking at a flat map, it's not really.
Mike doesn't believe that.
Look, Kyrie made a big point
But Michigan's curving over Wisconsin and so you can go north and be in a different time zone. This is absurd
Back to the absurdity now is standing. This is beautiful man. Well, these are insane stats Mike so insane seems to be
Ridiculous now that the three stats to remind people, Trey McBride records the most receptions ever
for a tight end over the final eight games.
Brock Bowers, fewest fantasy points of any top 10 tight end on plays inside the 10, since
the Bush administration.
When about was that?
About 09?
It ended in...
09.
09? Yeah. I? 09, yeah.
I guess 09, yeah.
And then the Westbrook Aquina is the central time zone.
I feel like, what's worse,
that Kyle does know the central time zone stat
or that he made it up?
The problem is you can't make up a lie.
Couldn't it accidentally be true if he can't vet it you know you
can't prove me wrong yes any lie could technically accidentally be right until
you vet it I'm gonna take the Brock Bowers one I the top 10 line feels like
there's got to be tight ends snuck in that did less than Brock Bowers I'm
with since the Bush administration.
I'm going Bowers. I like the Trey McBride one. No one feels the most true. I'm going
the Westbrook Kikina one. Okay. For principle. All right. Kyle reveal the Westbrook Kikina
is a complete lie. He caught touchdowns in multiple times. Oh, that's how you know it's
a Oh, there you go. Yeah. Well, that's what I was trying's a thing. You can see, oh, dang gum it. Yeah.
Well, that's what I was trying to,
was it nine at home?
Where all the touchdowns in home games?
I was thinking about that, yeah.
In hindsight, it was so clearly.
Unlock, unlock.
It was so clearly that one, because you can't vet this.
There's no way to know this.
But Kyle vets stuff.
Kyle figures out ways to figure this out.
Oh my gosh.
You got AI now?
So absurd.
I'm back, baby.
Kyle, I love you, you are so stupid.
You are such.
Oh man.
It's gonna get worse,
because he just revealed the third round,
and it's about me, apparently.
Andy-isms?
Let's go. Oh, that's fun.
Great, great, Kyle's fun. Great.
Great.
Kyle always surprised.
Isn't this, didn't he do a liar-liar where he figured out the amount of feet it would
take to walk to the Cardinals stadium or something like that?
Yeah, it was like Ryan Fitzpatrick's passing yard or something like that.
Had the exact same number of feet.
Look, I'm going to volunteer somebody else to read these ones.
I'm not reading about my own mistakes on the show.
All right, Andy-isms. I'm gonna volunteer somebody else to read these ones. I'm not reading about my own right and he is a show since
2021 Andy endured three separate tooth related injuries
Yet he missed fewer footballers episodes due to tooth related injuries than episodes
deuces exited mid show to go poop
Okay, three different tooth injuries missed fewer episodes
than deucers pooping. Deucers deuces. All right. Interesting. Possible fact
number two. Since losing in the League of Record Championship game to Owl, Andy
remember you did that, Andy has mentioned baseball on a higher
percentage of footballers episodes than Anthony Richardson's
career completion percentage.
So we're talking uh, he's talking like 40 something percent.
Is he down at 44?
He's probably around 50.
Yeah, it was about half.
50.6.
Oh man.
So just over half. Yeah And the final possible truth Andy has said the phrase
Pack your things to employees in the fantasy football or slack channel fewer times than the number of rushing touchdowns
Taysom Hill has had in his career 33
taste
Taysom Hill has had 33 rushing touchdowns.
I think I've fired people more than that.
You have to have fired people.
I mean, fake fired people.
You guys are just not at all surprised
that Taysom Hill has 33 rushing touchdowns?
He's had a long career.
It does feel like every year's the same for Taysom Hill,
which, like his career is infinite.
33 does seem- Are you saying maybe that's the lie no that part Jason Hill only his that part can't be the lie
yeah I can't blow in my mind don't tell Kyle what he can't do with his lies so I
think I've said pack your things more than that I would say mentioning
baseball on more than 50% of shows seems like, I know we bring it up, but that,
I don't think you mentioned it on more than half.
No, and I don't remember missing shows with my teeth.
I remember flipping spots and sitting where Mike was sitting.
Yeah.
Maybe I missed a show with a tooth.
The Deucers pooped so much.
I have never pooped mid-show.
That's true.
It's the two that are missing right now.
Oh, where could they be?
In Deuxer's Alley.
And to be fair, we did verify before the show
that one of them was literally pooping while,
I mean, he was on the Zoom, but he's pooping.
Come on.
He's zooping.
Oh, zooping.
Nice.
You ever take a good zoop?
Oh man, I feel like that's gonna hurt my enjoyment
of soups at the Olive Garden now.
I'm a big Zupa Toscana fan and now I got a new imagery
that I don't wanna deal with there.
My bad.
But he doesn't get the Zupa trophy?
No, he's not here.
He should.
All right, so it's a toothed one,
baseball versus Anthony Richardson,
or firing people versus Taysom Hill rushing touchdown.
This says, since I lost the championship game,
we've recorded a lot of shows since then.
There's no way I'm over 50% on baseball.
I'm going to say that one's a lie.
I think that's the lie as well.
While I wear my baseball cap.
That doesn't count. All right, I'm going to lock that one in as well. I don't think you mentioned the lie as well. While I wear my baseball cap. That doesn't count.
All right.
I'm going to lock that one in as well.
I don't think you mentioned baseball more than half.
That does mean, Mike, if you change and you get it right,
you would win.
Yeah, Jason, you can't win then.
Well, he can't win anyways.
No, he could.
Hasn't he gotten it wrong twice?
Yep, but we could tie.
I will lock in last. It's too late. You're already in. No, I will lock in last It's too late you're already I'm unlocked I had to keep brother no that key was for a different game
It's a different shape. Oh, that's third generation locksmith
He's got it. What are you guys? So you locked in baseball? Yeah, what are you going? I'm going the
Has said fewer than 33 I'm gonna go with the pack. You think I'm clearly going
with the tooth related injuries. No way is that the Kyle reveal your stupidity. It's
baseball. You only referenced it eight times. Oh that's not bad. I could work a few more
in there. That's about I would say seven too many. I'll give like one out of 50 episodes.
I've only referenced it 11 times,
is what it looks like.
Oh wait, in three episodes.
I've said pack your things 28 times to employees.
I feel like it's really dropped off.
That used to be like a go-to.
But it wasn't always Slack.
It's really, if you added the verbal,
which we can't track, I mean it's gotta be in the in the hundreds apparently I was the first one you said it to so that makes sense
And somebody and you didn't lie the most frequent as well probably
I only missed one episode with tooth related injuries apparently impressive. That's good. All right
Well, that's more than I've missed for well. Well, you know. Yeah, I haven't missed anything for teeth either.
Now that you put it that way, Mike.
Everybody can knock.
I'm at zero teeth injuries.
Yeah.
Tooth injuries?
Teeth injuries.
Teeth injuries.
Yeah, but I don't think I-
I think we've had to stop the show for each of you
to go to the bathroom.
Oh, yes.
For sure.
But that was not what this was about.
I'm trying to distract. All right, we'll take a break. We'll do some mailbag
Does that mean I won that game it does sure yeah, okay, no you got two I
Think Kyle won because nobody got all three. Yeah, that's
Go ahead and hang up on him mute his back pack your things Kyle
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Funky Dan from Kentucky, what it do?
Jason, how'd you enjoy Kentucky for Valentine's Day?
Was the weather great?
Are you moving here soon?
And what do we think about George Kittle this year?
Is he gonna be a top three tight end
with all the moves 49ers are making?
Or does he fall off the relevant tight end list?
First of all, that's Funky Dan from Kentucky.
What up, Funky Dan?
What's up?
And he wants to know, because you went there for Valentine's
Day to do a little bourbon distillery.
We did.
We went on a three distillery tour.
I learned how little I knew about the bourbon making
process.
It was a great time.
The weather was not great.
Little sloshy and rainy, but it was it was didn't you get stuck in Kentucky we did get stuck in Kentucky the
Airport couldn't de ice their planes because there was a cold front and so we won't be moving there
I had a great time, but
What's the I will never be back? What is what's Kentucky like in a couple of words bourbon?
Okay whiskey, okay
Finn full stop that is it's unbelievable
Also, which is awesome. It was just every place we went every restaurant every building every store
It's just all about that bourbon that Louisville is made for bourbon and college football.
I think that's it. How do people get anything done?
How about college basketball? Yeah.
Okay, sure. College sports. But George Kittle?
Yeah, concerns? No concerns. Good to know.
I'm feeling pretty good about Kittle right now.
What the 49ers are doing right now
should be very exciting for fantasy football purposes.
This is what we want.
We want the Cincinnati Bengals of last year.
We want a team that can be a high-powered, potent offense.
And then that defense sucks, so they have to keep playing.
That's been a huge problem with the 49ers
is their offenses have always been strong, but then their defenses are strong or stronger.
Well, and a big problem with George Kittle is he's had to compete with Debo Samuel. He's
had to compete with Brandon Iyue. Now he is like, he might be the primary target and if
he's not, he's going to be high in the packing order, coming off of a great season with a bad defense, and he's not going to be the number one tight end draft.
There's no world where he's drafted above Trey McBride or Brock Bauer.
So he is at best going to be the tight end three off the board.
As much as I'd love to disparage the 49ers because the off season is giving us the storyline of a bunch of stars departing, which is true.
They're gonna be fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They will not, I mean, I brought this up on the last episode.
Maybe.
Their odds first.
They're the sixth, even right now, I mean, I've checked.
They're the sixth highest Super Bowl winner, odds in the NFL.
So Jason had brought up that they're the favorites
out of the NFL. So Jason had brought up that they're the favorites out of the the West. But they're the sixth highest odds to win the Super Bowl post
free agency. So yeah I'm looking back at Shanahan's career with the 49ers. I mean
it's it started a little bit bumpy then they got all the players in. They go to
what was that the Super Bowl year? Cause they were the NFC champions in 2019.
Yeah, they've had some bad seasons too.
And then right after that, then it was a six win team, double digits for three
years, then down to the six years.
So doesn't that surprise you that the Vegas odds haven't changed to move them
lower with all this ground?
I mean, they were last in the division for what it's worth.
They're definitely the, the highest odds of last to first of any team.
I would say it does surprise me.
But there is also a, like, they know what they're
doing of taking people's money.
Sure.
You're like, yeah, sure, the 49ers are still,
they're super favorites, guys.
Get in on this action.
Thank you for your money.
So I don't know how much the house does that type of a thing.
But that's what it feels like to me.
Dude, how is it not the Rams?
Are you a bourbon guy, Al?
Do you like bourbon?
No.
So Mike, do you enjoy old fashioned?
I don't know.
I don't like an old fashioned.
I like it in Coca-Cola.
But I'm sure that the bourbon people
will find that unacceptable.
I feel a great deal of pressure to like bourbon.
Me too, especially I hang out with Jason a lot,
and he loves the bourbon.
But I just can't get behind him.
And you and I are sipping white Russians going.
Vodka, tequila, rum, any of that's fine.
I'm not a bourbon guy.
Yeah, I've tried.
Yeah, no.
I've had good bourbon. Yeah, to each've tried. Yeah, I've had good bourbon
Yep to each their own. It is not everyone's jam. Just like my wife loves it. I can't stand IPAs
Ho brother exactly so bitter
Mike's gripes and IPA's fit together perfectly
All right, we got a question from Tigertron on X.
Tigertron? Yeah, D. Tigertron. Hello ballers, is Ashton
Gentry a generational talent? This is a good question. I
have been, I am such an Amarion Hampton fan that I have felt this like hot take temptation
to go and rank him ahead of Gentie at times.
You know, the question marks around Gentie
have to do with where he played
and the competition he faced.
But would I say he's a genera, yes,
I would answer the question yes.
I would say he's a general yes, I would answer the question. All right, I would say he's a generational talent
Yeah, so the generational talent
Obviously means or should mean it comes, you know once in a generation. He is the landmark prospect
You know and by generation, I'm not talking like human generation, but like little short eras years
Yeah, NFL football, you know, you had the you had the Peyton Manning, you had the Andrew Luck, and then
it was supposed to be Trevor Lawrence, but it wasn't. And so when I look at how I view
recent prospects, I saw Bijon as a better prospect than Ashton Gentry. Bigger body, better competition. There are a few
words and obviously Ashton Gentry is my 101 and across all positions for running backs
and for all other positions for rookies. I think he is going to succeed, have great draft
capital, be a very great fantasy player.
But as far as whether he stacks up where Saquon was,
when Saquon was coming out.
I think Saquon was a better prospect.
Oh yeah.
But I think Bijon is the,
I would put him in the same tier as Bijon.
I would put him probably slightly at or above
Jonathan Taylor.
And just the fact that he's got the potential to be a
top-six pick I mean I really wish I know it's I know it's silly but I because he
played at Boise State because he played there I wish he tested at the combine
it just gives me a little bit of fears because he doesn't need to if I was his
agent I would tell him don't you dare there's nowhere to go but down is he
doing the pro day I'm sure he'll do a pro day at some point
Yeah, but I want to see you know the official
40 time there, you know, cuz he's a little bit more undersized than usually like the the premium
Guys that are taken first, you know at the running back position each year usually 220 pounds, you know or up there
He's a little bit smaller and if if it was okay because he's running a 220 pounds, you know, or up there. He's a little bit smaller
and if it was okay because he's running a 4.3, you know, I just feel a little better.
I just feel like we're so, like I'm just going to take what he did at FaceValley for the
most part.
Yeah, 2,600 rushing yards, 29 rushing touchdowns last year. Obviously he's great. There's been some some premier running backs that were discounted due to smaller school
narratives. David Johnson is one of them who you know obviously what we see a third round
pick for Arizona. He was yeah.
Out of Northern Iowa that became an elite fantasy option. Aaron Jones is a smaller school
guy. And Andy to your point of point of you like Hampton so much,
that it's possible that if Hampton has a better career
than Gentie, that's not going to be surprising to me.
I think that's what we're talking about.
If Ash and Gentie is incredible, but I
don't see him generational talent.
And going back, I mean, the generational running backs
who became that weren't even necessarily
the first ones drafted.
Like Christian McCaffrey is a generational running back.
He was drafted behind Leonard Fournette.
I mean, that draft class, he was still top 10.
That draft class had three guys
that you were wondering if they were.
But they went Leonard Fournette ahead of him.
You know, this one's an interesting conversation.
It was Ezekiel Elliott, a generational running back.
He was, yes.
Okay, cause he was.
When he was coming out as a prospect,
he had zero possible flaws.
He was.
That's where you look at like,
the reason I'm not gonna move Hampton above,
even though his outcome could be,
it could end up better team situation or something, and he could
be the more productive fantasy running back or the better player, totally possible.
Love him.
I don't think it's possible for Gentie to fail with what the draft capital's going to
be.
And his skillset, yeah, is he gonna end up Barry Sanders?
No, probably not, but I don't think it's possible for him to not be productive.
I mean, even if he was Leonard Fournnette like Fournette was still a productive
fantasy running back. Thank you thank you. I brought up Zeke because Zeke was the
fourth overall pick yeah by the Cowboys and in that year in the second round
was Derrick Henry yeah who Derrick Henry that no, Derek Henry, now that's a generational name.
You look at those two careers,
that's a better career.
That's for sure.
All right, wow, Instagram from Nick Welsh asks the question,
Breeze Hall or the 101 rookie pick?
That's gente.
That's a pretty easy one.
If I could trade Breeze Hall right now for the 101, I have Breece Hall. It's an open offer. I believe the person with the 101 is listening on the Zoom.
On the bathroom. No. No, Josh has it. Matt manages Josh's team. He's already said no. All right. That's no you don't get to steal that bit Jeremy
That is Kyle manages your team. He does and Matt manages Josh's team
It's already been turned down amazing. Yeah
But if you can see the top five dynasty running back if you can get the one-on-one rookie pick for Breeze Hall
I would do it without
Hesitations you do it for B John
No, no, I would keep that's a that's because I've got B John and breeze
I don't think I trade the 101 I would not or trade B John for the 101
No, but I don't think it's that far away. No, no, no, I mean it could be the wrong decision
It's not such an obvious like oh you well
I could I could regret not giving up B John for the 101 but B John is proven on an NFL field
He's
Are you mentally putting Gentie in Las Vegas right now? No, no, no. I'm not at all. I mean with the way that running back goes
You know, I think there's four or five teams he could he could go to
Alrighty, let's go to
AndyRoo156 on Instagram want to change from redraft to Dynasty, but everybody loves Draft Day for Redraft.
Any thoughts?
Yes, I have some thoughts.
I wonder if we have the same thought.
Do a keeper league.
That's the same thought?
Yeah, do a keeper league.
It is the best of both worlds.
Yeah, I get this.
I love Draft Day.
Draft Day is the pinnacle, most favorite day of the year.
And you do lose that with a move to dynasty
because the rookie draft is not draft day.
No, the rookie draft usually is offline.
You're not even getting together.
And it's, you know, it's just not as exciting.
You spend the whole off season for fantasy football
talking about the draft, talking about about values finding the guys you like
Avoiding the landmines. It's part of the fun. It's why we're listening and talking on on the show and
our main League of Record our primary
League is a keeper league with a keeper lottery
To ensure the reason we have it that way the reason we have this randomized lottery like we basically pick
in our league we pick our best player and we get to keep him no matter what and then we pick three other players from
a different position and
What ever ones are our best?
Whoever we want but we're gonna lose one randomly like out of a hat and so to lose three kind of like two truths in
A lie in the end lose one. Yeah, what did I say lose three that doesn't make sense and the entire reason we did
The entire reason we did that was because we still wanted the draft day to matter
We wanted Jamar chase to fall back into drafts
We wanted that first round to still be exciting and powerful and so it really is the best of both worlds
I I mean, I know who you guys as teams are starting out with. It feels kind of dynasty in that way.
And we let people trade, just for the record, we have a keeper deadline at the NFL draft.
So you have the entire off season, if you want to execute dynasty style trades,
you have from the time that keepers are declared and figured out through the keeper lottery, all the way through kickoff to trade keepers and picks.
So you don't lose some of that flexibility. We open up pick trading right away. year round and and there are things like a dynasty league which I will never forgive Mike for his
Death grip on Antonio Brown during the heyday you had him for whatever that four five six year stretch was of dominance
Oh my god, and no one could get him from guys
It was just like I associate Antonio Brown with you
It was incredible and so that you get that but the draft day is the best day of the year. Here's a good follow-up question on Instagram from C
Gable. Can you explain how your fantasy league divisions are set up and how that
works? In our league of record we have three divisions with four teams each and
you play your division mates two times. So we actually start this season your
first three matchups are against your division mates and your last three
matchups in the regular season are against division mates with the middle and assortment
of one-off matchups with everybody else.
That's how we've done it since the beginning.
It builds rivalries.
It makes the end of the season a very, just higher stakes.
Division winner automatically makes the playoff.
Then it's the next best three
wild card Yeah, yeah
Okay
Mike maybe this is a good question for you as we come to the end of the show Steve Sutton 40 if healthy come
Draft time will CMC end up a top three pick
Top three pick no because that would... People won't be willing...
It'll be Jamar, Saquon. Gibbs and Bijon will be dancing around. Yeah. I don't think people
will steam McCaffrey. Top five? At five, makes sense. It's going to be... Christian McCaffrey
is going to be one of the hardest draft picks, and I totally understand it, but he's a guy that in the middle of the first that can literally win your league for you.
So it will be very difficult.
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next Tuesday. We're going through the biggest free agency winners and losers.
We'll also catch up on any news that we missed
by pre recording a little bit and next Thursday regress or impress we'll talk
through some more names before you hit that outro button I was just wanting to
look up the the universal best ball ADP right now because I was curious about
how high Christian McCaffrey would go. Christian McCaffrey, consensus across all
best ball platforms, is right now the 14th player
off the board. Holy.
Second rounder.
He would be a very top target for me in best ball.
In the second round for sure.
Because what he represents is a title.
Yep.
Or sadness.
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