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Episode Date: August 5, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:58 That's the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, if you are nasty. I'm your host today, Mike, the Fantasy Hitman Wright, with my best buddy, best friends, Jason Moore. Oh, man. It's Monday, Jason. It's Monday and we're here, which means it's August. This show is going to be hot. And I mean that physically. Physically, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Our AC in Arizona, of course, in the studio, decided the morning of our first morning recording, like, it's'm not gonna work i'm broken yeah that's fun so yeah this show's gonna be fire gonna be hotter than the devil's butt crack over here uh but uh we're here we're not going away at a particularly it's a very hot place for the devil very that's most people's hottest place, I think. I was not aware. It's my hottest place. Good to know. It is August 5th. Like Jason said, so the AC doesn't work. I come in here.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I walk in the room, and I go, it's like being punched in the face with a heat glove. And then the deucers are superhero men. They really are. Because they're like, hey, the AC's out. And I'm like, well, that means one thing. We call a professional and they say, well, hold on, let us look at it. What do you mean look at it? You can't look at an AC and diagnose it.
Starting point is 00:03:16 So they start breaking things down. They realize that the power source for the air conditioner, we're like, oh, no, it's actually plugged into power in the roof. I better run up on the roof and see if, and I'm like, well, first of all, you can do that? I didn't know. I can't get to the roof. I thought only- Did you take a chopper?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Like Arnie? Did you, like, how do you get to the roof? I have no idea. Somehow he teleported onto the roof, saw that we had a bad circuit breaker, or circuit- A fuse. A fuse. A fuse. That's correct.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And he said, oh, I can just run to lowes and get this i'm like what are you talking about no you cannot and that's what he did and so it's not awful in here we're surviving yeah yeah it it's it's fixed but it's starting with a warm box but it's all right because we're the show's already going to be fire and our fearless leader andrew holloway is out he had a uh he's working on his tooth problem yeah he had some sort of he had a surgery so he's he's he's recovering and we'll be back soon yeah we're hoping he is back tomorrow but that does it doesn't matter jay grizz aka jay riz the cardboard bear extraordinaire Bear Extraordinary. That's even stupider than I remember.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah. But yeah, he's sitting in the chair over there. He is holding it down. Welcome in, everyone. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast five times a week. You heard our great friend at the beginning of the show Arnie. Recommending the Ultimate Draft Kit. If you are getting ready for your draft, which if you're listening to this podcast, you definitely
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Starting point is 00:05:42 Had a great night of sleep, and I'm excited to whop you in the mock draft. We are doing a mock draft today, but before we get into that, we have a brand new segment to unleash upon the general public. Welcome to Ready to Roll, presented by Nissan. That's hot, Mike. Thank you. That's good stuff. So with Ready to Roll every week, we are taking a deep dive. We're trying to go, you know, this is what we do.
Starting point is 00:06:19 We make jokes and we have fun, but we're looking as deep as we can on metrics to make sure that the actual quality of the information on the show is good, is ahead of the curve, is going to help you find the right players. You know, it's like you always have those drafts where it's like, oh, the key to the draft is just draft the best players. It is. That is my secret sauce. Right. You just, you know, don't draft the busts. And so we're looking each week at something deep, something unique. And so this week we took a look at red zone looks.
Starting point is 00:06:51 We're trying to adjust how we are looking at coverage in the NFL and see if we can find some takeaways, some actionable, like, hey, this might be really good for this player or that player. So we've got some three takeaway pieces based upon adjusting our red zone look. So we've talked about how the NFL is becoming more and more and more zone. And these are the numbers since 2019. The NFL was 58% zone in 2019. Then 62% in 2020.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Then 65%. Then a very nice 69 and a half percent and last year over 70 percent of coverage was zone and so you go oh well we want we want zone beaners beaters bean yeah beaters but here's the thing is that the red zone the value of red zone targets is worth a lot more than a regular target okay so if you if you get a red zone targets is worth a lot more than a regular target. So if you get a red zone target, it's worth 1.7 normal targets. If you're inside the 10, it's 2.1 targets. And if you're getting an end zone target, that's 2.6 targets.
Starting point is 00:07:56 That's the value of fantasy points per those targets. And inside the red zone last year, once you get inside the 20 and the defense collapse it's 39 percent zone and 34 percent man you see a lot more man you might you might be smart out there and go that's not a hundred percent and that's true because once you get down to like you know the two the goal line look yeah you you got a whole different you got a sellout defense if you've ever played any sort of football game you know that way either like hey you know, the two. The goal line look. Yeah, you've got a whole different, you've got a sellout defense. If you've ever played any sort of football game, you know that. They're like, hey, you get to the goal line and they offer you that. And it's every man on your defense, just crush forward.
Starting point is 00:08:35 That's the entire plan is don't let them run it up the middle. So what we're trying to find here are players that are good against both man and zone. But specifically, once they against both man and zone, but specifically once they get into the red zone, who are first read targets who excel at man coverage, right? AJ Brown is one of them. Now he's obviously super high in the drafts. You've got to get lucky to, to, to have him. I, I am, I'm all in on, on both AJ and Devontae Smith, but he is eighth in man yards per route run, 14th against zone. The only five other wide receivers were top 15 at both. That's Tyreek, Nico, Nico Collins.
Starting point is 00:09:16 My man. Dude, he's, I mean, I was really surprised to see him here. I know he had a great season, but like both zone and man, he's great. Brandon Ayuk, Justin Jefferson, and Mike Evans. Inside the red zone, he had 18 red zone targets, but here's the thing. 17 of those were first read targets. They're designing things for A.J. Brown in the red zone. By comparison, Devontae Smith only had three. So it's like, okay, that's why he's in the first round and Devontae Smith is later.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Two other targets, I think, in drafts. We just talked about this guy on the fire show, Jaden Reed. Jaden Reed had 17 red zone targets, which is pretty good, 18th among all wide receivers. That's not like, you know, a top five, but he was a rookie and he missed games. 16 of his 17 targets were first read targets. When they get in the red zone, they are designing plays for him as a rookie. I think Andy is correct. I have started to shift. I was always the Christian Watson guy. I'd rather take the value and have the upside of the athleticism. But the more that I've thought about how they use Jaden Reed when they get in the red zone, I think he can repeat his touchdown prowess.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And then the last one, a guy you've kind of stand for over the last little while, the last year, Brandon Cooks, another surprising one. He lived off of touchdowns last year, and you might think like, oh, well, he's old, but he was first read on all 12 of his red zone targets. So he's got the history of beating this kind of coverage, and if they are designing plays for him in the red zone, those touchdowns are far more repeatable. So the main takeaway here, red zone usage benefits players
Starting point is 00:10:58 who excel both at man and zone and focus on first read targets. So hopefully that helps pick a couple of guys. Maybe we'll get some of these guys in the mock draft. That was Ready to Roll presented by Nissan. Find your path in the 2024 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek with a roof rack with up to 220 pound dynamic capacity. Learn more at NissanUSA.com. Cargo and load capacity limited by weight and distribution.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Always secure cargo. Heavy loading of the vehicle with cargo especially on the roof will affect the handling and stability of the vehicle news and notes from around the league presented by usaa insurance where's that money drop boys boys? Do you have it? Do you have it? There it is. Money, money, money. Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill. When it all started blasting out, first we had the cryptic tweet from Tyreek.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I believe he said, I'm not going anywhere. You're like, well, yeah. I know you're not going anywhere because you're under contract for a couple more years, man. What are you talking about? And then it was announced it was a three-year 90, or I think it was like a 60 million contract extension
Starting point is 00:12:17 is what it was reported as. Whoa! More years for Tyreek? No. No, no, no. Just cash. Just guaranteed dollars. Straight cash, homie. You hear that, Dallas? Oh, my gosh. Do you hear that?
Starting point is 00:12:30 Every single time. Every single time that I see one of these wide receivers get money, I go, what does CeeDee Lamb feel right now? What is Dallas doing? Anger, rage, fury. I mean, what? Of course, I made this personal about C.D. Lamba. Congratulations to Tyreek Hill.
Starting point is 00:12:50 They just gave him more money. That's all they did. They just gave him a whole bunch of more money. Wide receiver from the Los Angeles Rams, Puka Nakua, is considered. Jason bows his head in sadness. This is so upsetting. Puka Nakua is considered week-to to week after suffering a knee injury this weekend. Adam Schefter had one source describing it as not serious, but that was compounded by a report,
Starting point is 00:13:14 I believe that was just before it, from ESPN's Jeremy Fowler saying the Rams offense clearly runs through Cooper Cup. That was his observation after watching the team have a training camp practice. Where are we with the Rams wide receivers now? Yeah, I mean... Because Puka is basically... Puka has taken on the turn in a 12-team league.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So right at the end of the first, early second, Cooper Cup's going a couple rounds after that. Is that a giant mistake? It seems like right now it is probably the wrong gap. Puka is a guy in most of our mock drafts we talk about like he's ranked there at wide receiver I think appropriately, but it's too high compared to other running backs that are on the board. We almost never draft him there,
Starting point is 00:14:03 especially considering you can get the value on Cooper Cup several rounds later, and Cooper Cup could be the one in this offense. I still like Puka's odds to beat Cooper Cup, but it definitely doesn't seem like a multi-round gap. And then you add in this knee injury, and it's like, okay, I'm happy that it's described as not serious. But it's going to keep him off the field for weeks, and it's a knee injury. I mean, that's not nothing. That's not good for the player. You know, we see people all the time, you know, you're talking about, oh, this player gets off to a strong start when we're recapping their last season.
Starting point is 00:14:40 They got injured in week three, and then it took them, you know, they missed two weeks when they came back. It took them like three or four weeks to get back to full strength, and obviously, I don't know the details of this knee injury, but I would really like to not have to excuse a slow start for Puka, especially since he's on my keeper team. I've talked about a lot where if I'm on the turn, the Rams feel like the picks, but I don't want to overload with the Rams. I don't personally want to do that with my first and second round pick. You're saying Kyron and Puka.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah, Kyron Williams and Puka Nakua, and it always ends up being, well, I go with Kyron, and then I bypass Puka, and this was enough information for me. I have moved Puka down at least a couple spots in my projections and my rankings to the point where unless his ADP actually moves from this information, he's not going to end up on any of my teams. Yeah, this really stinks. Also, another one that stinks, another wide receiver I love this year,
Starting point is 00:15:42 Ladd McConkie came up limping in Saturday's practice, did not practice on Sunday. You know, nothing is – I haven't seen any reports of it being serious. I think Harbaugh said, you know, he's not concerned. But I don't know – so I don't know if you saw this. The Giants let their kind of draft board leak through the hard knocks okay and they had color coding on certain players now we don't officially know what the color coding meant right but there are guesses could be like this guy's handsome right like yeah green green is like those are the handsome guys. Yeah, could be. Yeah, really marketable.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But there was some red on players. Oh, red is not handsome. Red is not handsome. The assumption based on who the players were, and it really makes sense, was injury related, is what it seemed like. And one of them that I was a little bit surprised to see a red marker on was Ladd McConkie. I don't know of any, you know, I don't know what the specific injury is or what the medicals revealed to the Giants. And again, I'm not 100% positive that red means injury. This is kind of hypothesis.
Starting point is 00:17:03 But then, like, you come up limping here, and this is his second time kind of being a little injured. It's like, come on man yeah it's brutal when rookies miss time at all during training camp let's just complete that jason another guy that you really like the talent i like him as well panthers rookie wide receiver xavier liguette he is considered day-to-day after undergoing an mri on his injured foot we are still waiting for more news but but someone leaving practice, immediately getting an MRI. We do not like that at all, so that's something to monitor. More Panthers news. Jason, man, it was a rough weekend for you, Jay.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I know, because it's all the guys I like. Jonathan Brooks. I've been saying, like, I don't want to— Rookie running back for the Panthers. I don't want to leave a draft without Jonathan Brooks, because he doesn't cost you much. He's at the end of the draft. He is now being reported he will not play in preseason,
Starting point is 00:17:51 and they are hopeful that he is ready for week three or week four. So this sounds like he will start the season on the pup. Now Mike is making a grimacing face. That is brutal. That is brutal. I don't think it is completely and utterly unexpected. You hold on to those roots, brother. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Okay, okay. I am out. That's totally fine. I will say, historically, not buying the injury dip is the right transaction to make. He'll fall a little bit in ADP. He might be a value in the 10th, 11th round, wherever he falls to. If you're starting with a player that obviously, hopefully you're going to be able to put an IR spot if you've got it in your league.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Right. But he's going to start slow for his career. He's coming off the ACL injury. This was known from college. But I believe he is the best running back in this year's draft class. And he was drafted as the first running back off the board.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I believe the Panthers traded up to acquire him. And Canales will utilize him the way that he utilized Rashad White. So I still believe that if you have an IR spot and he drops into the double-digit rounds, he's a stash I would want to make.
Starting point is 00:19:13 If you have an IR spot, I'm okay with it. And a glimmer of hope, there was Todd Gurley's rookie season, which he was recovering from his own knee injury. Different level prospect drafted in the early first round, but he missed two games. Week three, he played 27% of the snaps, and then after that, it was just off to the races, and he finished as the RB7.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah. So it's not impossible. It's just a – if we know for sure that he's not even going to be ready to play football until week four, and then there's the ramping up period. It's tough. Chuba Hubbard, who's going right now as the running back 43, we've talked about him a little bit in the offseason when we had no idea exactly what the health of Jonathan Brooks was.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Chuba Hubbard could be another one of these zero RB heroes who just supports your team for a chunk of the season. Even if Brooks comes back and week six or whatever takes over the backfield, I get, you know, what, four or five weeks of a starting running back who was good last year to end the season for fantasy? If you look at week 12 on last year, Chuba Hubbard finished as the running back 11, running back 6, running back 24, 24 running back 18 running back 20 I mean it was it was a good it was a good serviceable stretch and that was for the putrid Panthers yeah so keep uh keep Chuba in mind when you're at the end there and then Saints wide receiver Rashid Shaheed he has missed
Starting point is 00:20:39 consecutive practices hamstring tightness oh you don't want to see wide receiver hamstring issues before the year. Those things, they just stick around, man. Yeah, absolutely. That was today's News & Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. We will be right back with the mock draft so i'm going to set it up before i hit the button we are doing a mock draft on the sleeper platform we are doing a 10 team full ppr two running back two wide wide receiver, one side end, two flex. Jason, do you have your rankings prepared? Dude, I made them.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I used them. Yes, yes, I got them. I made them. I used them. I win. That's right. The Fantasy Footballers Mock Draft. All right, the draft has begun.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Jason, you pulled the number three spot. I pulled the number nine spot, which that'll be a fun experiment. We're pretty close to the edges. A 10-team ends up looking very different when you're drafting from the edge as opposed to the standard 12-team league. So, again, Jason got the third pick. Christian McCaffrey, CeeDee Lamb are the first two off the board. You're up, Jay. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:22:11 This is pretty easy for me. When I look at my rankings, how they bear out, I would prefer to have Tyree Kill over CeeDee Lamb. So if I was at the two spot, I would have taken Tyree Kill. You just look at how consistent he was last year, how unbelievably dominant, the extra money that they gave him. I mean, put it this way. Who's paid?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Who's paid, CeeDee Lamb or Tyreek Hill? Money, money, money, money, money. I love it. It's just like, hey, Tyreek, you're real good. Here's more money. Just take this. You don't have to do that. good. Just take this. You don't have to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Just take this money. If you look at sleeper picks, that's the in-season DFS game, and you look at the lines, Tyreek for week one is already at 98.5 yards, which he crossed that nine times last year, most in the NFL. So that's the consistency I'm looking for. So this is an easy pick for me. I'll take Tyreek. All right, Tyreek goes.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Amin Ross, St. Brown, Puka Nakua, Brees Hall. So we had us a mighty fine run of wide receiver. Jason shakes his head. Is that because I get Bijon? Yes, that's because you get Bijon. You shouldn't get Bijon at the nine. Bijon should not be that far.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I'm not even going to sit and elaborate on it. I am taking B. John Robinson. It's the B. John Minute. Okay. McCaffrey, Breesall, B. John Robinson. Those are the running backs that I give the best probability to finish as the overall number one. Getting him at the nine spot
Starting point is 00:23:45 i mean that's that's that's pretty hot i'll take that yeah so this is this is the full ppr uh version which is pushing wide receivers up but obviously when you're talking about bijon christian mccaffrey breese gibbs those are those are ppr machines as well um so yes that's a it's a great pick. Way to play so well. You got to let the draft come to you sometimes, man. A.J. Brown finishes off the first round. Then Jameer Gibbs, the rookie sensation going into his sophomore year. Gibbs in a PPR is also.
Starting point is 00:24:19 In a what? In a PPR. P-R-P-R-P-R. Did I say P-R-P-R? I don't know. I don't know. It sounded weird. You're just mad.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I am a little mad, weird. You're just mad. I am a little mad, yeah. You're just mad. So that puts me back on the board. Looking at the wide receivers who are available ADP-wise right now, at least on sleeper, it's Garrett Wilson who, are you buying into this anything that there's the lovers quarrels going on with Aaron Rodgers? Have you seen them?
Starting point is 00:24:44 I saw a video of them yelling at each other. But then I saw Aaron Rodgers, he shut that down. Oh, really lovers quarrels going on with Aaron Rodgers. Have you seen them? I saw a video of them yelling at each other. But then I saw Aaron Rodgers. He shut that down. Oh, really? Yeah. He said, I was telling him how much I love him with passion. But then there was another one of like, they just seem a little. The thing is, is they are they are both elite alphas and they are playing against the Jets defense every practice which is great for
Starting point is 00:25:07 you know what I mean like the Jets defense is way better than the Jets offense so they're going to have frustrations they're going to look out of sync but they're not always going to have to play against the Jets defense so it's Garrett Wilson Marvin Harrison Jr. Devonta Adams Drake London these are the guys who are at the top of the wide receiver, ADP-wise anyways. And then I look at the running backs, Jonathan Taylor, Saquon Barkley, and Kyron Williams is there. There certainly is risk that they don't use him as much because they drafted Blake Corum in the third round
Starting point is 00:25:38 who profiles as someone who can step in for Kyron when needed. But I think that Sean McVay, he loves himself a one running back rotation. So I'm going to start very high T. Yeah. Very macho. Body hair everywhere. B. John Robinson, Kyron Williams. I was really wanting Kyron to drop to me.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I know different platforms have different rankings. An underdog, I get him in the third oftentimes. I figured in a 10 team, he might make it back to the back of the second, and he might have had you not take him. So you got Bijon and Kyron. I love that start. I like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:15 So after Kyron, Jonathan Taylor went, Garrett Wilson, Drake London, Marvin Harrison, Devontae Adams, another monster wide receiver run. We'll see how I feel about my wide receiver room with all of them flying off the board. But, Jason, you're back up. Tyreek Hill and who? Tyreek Hill and who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 00:26:33 Does anyone know? Is that who or whom? What should I have done? Tyreek Hill and who? I've got a lot of blank stares. I feel like it's whom. I would go with whom. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Tyreek Hill and whom? Yeah, that's right. Is it? It sounds right. I feel like when I don't know, I just go whom. Yeah. Whom is fancier. It's more sophisticated.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And the thing is, the thing is, is if you say whom, no one's correcting you because no one uses whom. That's a great point. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, oh, he knows when to use whom. Mr. English over here. All right. Well. Do know what I mean? They're like, oh, he knows when to use whom. Mr. English over here. Do you have a degree? Whom I shall take
Starting point is 00:27:09 is... Alright, so I'm going to play the game. I'm going to risk it. No risk it, no biscuit. I've got Tyreek Hill. It's full PPR. I want Devon Achan. That's who I want. All dolphins all the time?
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yeah, I don't care. There are certain players and it's rare going back to where it was Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell. No problem. You could spend your first and second round pick. And I think these are two of those type of players.
Starting point is 00:27:42 But I don't want to do my first and second. So I'm going to gamble and assume that I can get Devon A. Chan. There's four picks between this pick and my next one. So I'm actually going to go with Saquon Barkley. Okay. Try to have two great running backs. Make him pay. Oh, yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Yeah. So Devon A. Chan fell to me after I took Barkley. So I really like this story. If I've got such a stud at wide receiver in Tyreek, if I'm spinning that early pick, I often do this in reverse. If I was the Christian McCaffrey drafter, my next two picks are probably going to be wide receivers. And I kind of have that foundation piece. So Tyreek Hill will be my foundation. I will add his teammate Devon Achan with Saquon Barkley. So you take Devon Achan. Travis Kelsey
Starting point is 00:28:30 went next to I was I had a small dream that Travis Kelsey would make it all the way back which that means he went in front of Laporta. That'll be interesting to see how if that starts shaking up over August That's how my rankings are. You still have Kelsey up top?
Starting point is 00:28:45 I still have Kelsey up top. For PPR, I would especially. I'd rather have Kelsey. Laporta was low volume, really high touchdown success. We'll see. Look, he was a rookie. Maybe he gets more utilized in the offense, but they're a very high-T team as well
Starting point is 00:29:02 where it's not going to be as many targets as Travis Kelsey will get. But Kelsey goes at the 304, Josh Jacobs, then Sam LaPorta. Wow, wow, wow. I'm just looking at – Isaiah Pacheco and Nico Collins. Looking at our rankings, I didn't realize you've got Kelsey at four. I do? You do.
Starting point is 00:29:17 You've got – Yeah, because I got my man up there. You got your man up top. Yeah, I do. You got T. McBee. You've got Andrews and LaPorta. So, I mean, the thing is, is I think there's definitely four. If you want to include Kincaid like I do, there's five that I –
Starting point is 00:29:32 you can make an argument for any of them finishing as the tight end one, which means any of them can finish as the tight end five. So, people ask us a lot, you know, what are the biggest differences for the 10 team versus a 12 team? And it's your opportunity cost on taking a onesie position. It moves down because you have, you know, far fewer players actually selected. And the impact that a dominant quarterback,
Starting point is 00:29:57 like Josh Allen at the 302, no problem. That doesn't bother me in the slightest. Travis Kelsey at the 304 in a PPR. Yeah, absolutely. Because everyone's team in a 10-teamer, on paper, at least when the season starts, you're going to go, oh, man, look at that team. Then you look over, oh, look at that team. Oh, look at that team.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Everybody's team is pretty fire. So you've got to find the small margins where you can make a difference. And so the small margins where you make a difference, it's specifically like you know we we like we like Joe Burrow I like Joe Burrow Joe Burrow is higher to me than his average draft position and rankings but he is not a difference maker within the position the way that a Josh Allen or Hurts or maybe Mahomes if you know people that can actually gap themselves, like a Christian McCaffrey or a Terry Kill, where it's like the difference between having the elitist
Starting point is 00:30:51 versus the fifth or sixth best, that makes a huge difference in a 10-teamer. So I'm taking Trey McBride. I am taking him over Mark Andrews just because I'm going to place my chips, so to speak, on that Trey McBride will be a PPR machine. We've got to get those touchdowns up, absolutely. But with the return of Kyler Murray, I think that that's going to happen then.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Derek Henry went off the board at 310. Mike Evans at the 401. I am back on the clock. Bijan Robinson, Kyron Williams, Trey McBride. And that was the spot I would really hope that Nico drops to me. He went right in front of my Trey McBride pick. I was thrilled to see him go right ahead of you. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I saw Nico, and then you were on the clock, and I was like, yes. It would have been an easy pick for me if Nico, over Trey McBride too as well. And then I'm going to reach down the ADP a little bit. I'm going to take Jalen Waddell. I have spoke very kindly of him. I think that he is a true wide receiver one, like a back end. Tyreek Hill is still the guy, but I think that we could see a season far more like two years ago for Jalen Waddell when he was healthier
Starting point is 00:32:03 and he finished as a top 10 guy. So to get what I look at as a top 10 player as my fourth pick here, and I have a difference maker at the tight end position, I like that start. DJ Morris, Stephon Diggs. Okay, Jalen Hurts, Deebo Samuel, Patrick Mahomes. So Hurts and Mahomes are gone. I was targeting either one of those guys. So are you even considering a quarterback at this spot?
Starting point is 00:32:26 I am considering a quarterback, not at this spot. I am considering. You're going to play the game again? I'm going to play the game, but this time I'm upgrading the game. Stupid games win stupid prizes, Jay. This time, while I'm going for an exponential prize, I want to stack. And we just talked about this in a 10-teamer. I'm willing to take the onesie positions a little bit earlier,
Starting point is 00:32:51 including maybe even two of them. Mark Andrews is my tight end, too. Oh, okay. Mark Andrews is my tight end, too. If I can grab Mark Andrews here in the fourth, and if Lamar falls to me, there's only – Team 1 doesn't have a quarterback yet. But that's it. So, like, I got to play that game. Come on. Which one are you going first't have a quarterback yet, but that's it. So like I got
Starting point is 00:33:05 to play that game. Come on. Which one are you going first? I'm going Mark Andrews first. Okay. Oh man. Gosh. Oh, that's tough because ADP wise, Mark Andrews has a better shot at getting back to me. Lamar Jackson is on this platform. Definitely the highest, but neither Team 1 or Team 2 has a tight end. So there's four picks that they could take Mark Andrews, whereas there's really only like Team 1 is the only team. Oh, man, which way do I get? This is a conundrum. All right, I am going to go Andrews,
Starting point is 00:33:39 and the reason why is because if I lose out on Lamar, I'm fine with that. There are other quarterbacks I like as well. Oh, yes! Ha ha! Ha ha ha! You must be so disappointed! I am.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I am. You chucked a big game. I'll be fine. No, you're not. You're sad. And none of them took tight end. None of them took a tight end. Out of all the four picks, they could have used any of the four picks. Yeah. Granted, if Mark Andrews was on the board, they might have taken a tight end none of them took a tight end and all the four picks they could have used any of the four picks granted I had if Mark Andrews was on the board they might have taken a tight end all right well that sucks I don't have my quarterback yet um I would be targeting uh from you know now
Starting point is 00:34:17 I'm looking at Anthony Richardson Kyler Murray players like. You've got two picks before me, but, man, I don't think I want to reach down that far. I've got one wide receiver. I'm going to. So your team is Tyreek Hill, Saquon Barkley, Devon Achan, Mark Andrews. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and follow the news and the health. Okay. And I'm going to, instead of Puka at the one two turn in the fifth
Starting point is 00:34:46 round i will take now cooper cup okay as my wide receiver over dk i i did i took him over dk i we can't forget how great and dominant cooper cup was the the fact that you know when you look at the games when cooper cup and and puka together, the red zone utilization. I mean, Cooper Cup is where they look. And so to get them in the fifth round, I'm pretty darn happy with that. I would have liked Metcalf. I would have liked Devontae Smith. There's a lot of good options there. But honestly, I haven't had Cooper Cup I don't think in any draft this year.
Starting point is 00:35:22 All right, so you went Cooper Cup. Then it was DK Metcalf immediately after. James Cook, Devonta Smith went at 5.06. Dalton Kincaid and CJ Stroud went at the 5.08. Absolutely beautiful. It's a 10-teamer, so I'm willing to put this experiment henceforth. Anthony Richardson will be joining my squad. Hopefully I have two true dominators at the onesie position and I don't have to think about them for the entire season except for one week
Starting point is 00:35:53 when it is there by and I just have to fill it in we'll see I only have the one wide receiver we'll see if I end up liking this team at the end or not Joe Mixon went afterwards Zay Flowers was the 601 I am back on the clock. It's kind of nice not having to, now I don't even have to think about QB or tight end. I mean, this is a little mental stress that's gone for the rest of the draft.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And the other guy who I would have selected, let me just check my rankings here. Man. So I'm looking at Tank Dell. I didn't get my precious Nuka Collins, and I'm just making sure I do have Tank Dell that much further ahead of George Pickens, and I do, so I will take Tank Dell.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Jay, look at this squad. Look at this squad. It's coming together rather nicely. It's nowhere near as good as my team, but I'm still proud of you. What if I offered you to change teams with me right now? Oh, I would definitely do that. You would do that. No, I would not.
Starting point is 00:36:55 No way. Really? No way. My team's way better. You are full of baloney. I am not full of baloney. All right. Kyle Pitts, Keenan Allen, Kenneth Walker, Amari Cooper, Alvin Kamara.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Kamara did not make it to you. Kamara did not make it to me, but Kyler did. Now, both the teams, Team 1 and Team 2 that are on the turn, they have their quarterbacks. So I don't need to take Kyler here. I'm going to get Kyler. That's what you think. Yeah, I guess computers can be crazy. But, yeah, I'll play the game and get Kyler in the seventh round,
Starting point is 00:37:28 which I like, which means right now I can go take a look at either running back or wide receiver. The running backs on the board are some guys we like, like James Conner. I still think that there is a huge upside in David Montgomery should an injury befall Jameer Gibbs. Either one of those guys has that league-winning upside built into them. And then a wide receiver, George Pickens is pretty high. I know you guys have talked him up.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I don't know why. You're still not in? But the logic says it should work. He was really good last year. I'll say I don't like what's going on with all this quarterback chatter out of Pittsburgh. You don't want it to be Justin Fields. I don't like that there's even questions.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I mean, maybe these are completely manufactured media questions, but Russ came into camp hurt. Justin Fields is we had a report that he's having a great camp. This was a quarterback decision that was easy. It's going to be Russell Wilson starting for the Pittsburgh Steelers. To have any of that floating around, Justin Fields took DJ Moore to a sensational fantasy year uh last year so it's not impossible i'm just saying of the you know it's the old if you have
Starting point is 00:38:52 two quarterbacks you have none right it just i don't like those vibes for sure um i don't either which is why i'm going to take t higgins uh t higgins is highest in my rankings. I feel like there are a trifecta of values based upon the same trifecta of disappointments last year. And those would be the last year. And it was like around the second round. I think it was mid to late second round. You had T Higgins, Jalen Waddle and Devante Smith. The twos for their teams were in the, in were twos in fantasy and all three number twos for their teams were twos in fantasy. And number twos for your team. Yeah, and all three kind of took a dump.
Starting point is 00:39:32 But I think that their value has fallen too far. You are higher on Waddle than most. I'm higher on T. Higgins. I feel like people have forgotten the fantasy value that he can provide when he's got a healthy Joe Burrow. And when he's healthy, right now he's healthy. He's got a healthy Joe Burrow. I think T. Higgins is in for a fantastic season.
Starting point is 00:39:54 To get him this far into a draft, there's upside. So T. Higgins to Jason's team, George Pickens, and then Aaron Jones rounds out the sixth. We will be right back with Jason's seventh round pick. I'm going to get the guy that you hope you're getting in Anthony Richardson. Okay, before you make your pick, because George Kittle opened up the seventh round. Does that – it brings – like, I love Trey McBride. I think he has number one overall upside.
Starting point is 00:40:30 But George Kittle here in the seventh versus I took Trey McBride at the 309, that type of a gap feels value-wise like Team 1 got an absolute steal here. So I have spoke many times about wanting one of the top five tight ends the top five being laporta kelsey andrews mcbride and kincaid and every time that i say that there's a little voice in the back of my head that goes hey hey what about what about george it's me george um george k is, you know, he is so unbelievably freaking awesome to have on your roster when it's a Kittle game. Right. And those games are real.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Like, if you watch, you know, Wide Receiver, the series on Netflix, it followed Kittle and Debo along with others. And it's just like they design game plans for players. And so that's why sometimes he just disappears, and you'll get two fantasy points on your roster because it's just like that's not where they were trying to exploit it. But when they are in on George Kittle, and he's such a core piece of this team. I feel like he's the energy of this offense. He can do things that no one else
Starting point is 00:41:49 in the league can do, including Kelsey now at this point. And team number one, their third round pick was Brandon Ayuk. Now, obviously, we're doing a mock draft and ADP is factoring a lot into this. Do you have... What's your level of comfort of having either Debo or Brandon
Starting point is 00:42:08 Ayuk and then taking George Kittle is that a team you're willing to double dip on George Kittle top five in five of the last six seasons no I would not want to double dip now this is going to work out excellently if Ayuk gets traded right because if I you gets traded George Kittle absolutely needs to you know be be considered in the the the top tight end would you move him over Kincaid yeah if if I you gets traded I would move Kittle up over Kincaid but yeah I I I'm okay with I like team one in general but if I had I, I probably wouldn't grab Kittle. All right. Christian Kirk was next. And then Jason, you're up. Yep. Uh, I will take Kyler Murray here as planned. And again, you know, you, Anthony Richardson versus Kyler Murray is so
Starting point is 00:42:54 funny because it is Anthony Richardson's usually in the fifth round Kyler I'm getting in the seventh round. And you're just hoping that Anthony Richardson can become what Kyler has always been. He's on the field. It could be a boat. So Kyler's value is, I mean, Foot Clan, let's just keep him where he is. He's just so perfect for fantasy right now in the seventh round. An easy layup of a pick. Don't overdraft Kyler. Not until it's your actual draft.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And then grab him. I mean, I had Trey McBride. I had expected that Kyler Murray would have been my quarterback. In that run there where you gambled, Lamar would make it back. I figured Richardson would get taken in that round, and then I would just take
Starting point is 00:43:39 Kyler Murray at the 6-0-2. I'm in full agreement of Kyler and having a Trey McBride-Kyler stack, I think that's going to be pretty fun. All right. Kyler went Jordan Addison, DeAndre Swift, Terry McLaurin, Joe Burrell, James Conner. A real quick Terry McLaurin conversation.
Starting point is 00:44:00 He's in the seventh. I mean, Terry, he feels like he's that guy we know who he is which is a in my opinion a better wide receiver than he puts out for fantasy football and you know it we have been kind of yellow green with him where it's his rookie year, 28, then he was up to 21st, 25th, 14th, back down to 28. But he's basically been a 1,000-yard guy every year of his career. Are we undervaluing the potential of Terry here? Not to be a top-12 guy because we talked about rookie quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:44:41 lacking touchdowns, but are we undervaluing Terry here? I don't think so. I think he's valued exactly where he should be. There's still a lot of valuable players on the board, people that are going to be wide receiver twos that you can draft right now, and that's basically what he is. He does lack the elite upside to do something really, really special. When you're drafting wide
Starting point is 00:45:05 receivers around this range, you go, okay, Krisha Kirk was a wide receiver one a couple years ago. Zae Flowers, you know, is going into year two as the number one. There's unknown upside. With Terry McLaurin, there is known not upside. But there's also known, not downside. He's a safe mid-pick, so he's fine in the mid-rounds if you are looking to just add some quality depth. Looking at ADP, because I am on the clock, my team is Bijan Robinson, Kyron Williams, Trey McBride, Jalen Waddell, Anthony Richardson, Tank Dell.
Starting point is 00:45:42 So I am, in fact fact perfectly balanced somehow at this point in the draft with my two onesies at 80p for wide receivers Roma Dunze who was my ice player uh just a couple weeks ago or not a week a couple weeks ago goodness that was the last week yeah primorpin rishi rice which hey nfl it's august can we get an announcement like can we know what's going on here with the legal troubles the off the field troubles of rishi rice is he gonna get a suspension like what's going on here i think we would probably know about it if it was going to be week one now this can come at any time yeah they can drop it right in the middle of the year. Yeah. I mean, there's always going to be this looming over him.
Starting point is 00:46:28 But it does seem more likely that it's not going to start the season than ever before. So where are you at then with his ADP? I've got him marked right now as the top of my queue. Okay. I think that there's a good enough chance he's not suspended this season to take the gamble because this is a player who was awesome down the stretch as a rookie with Patrick Mahomes. And I know that they brought in Hollywood, they brought in Xavier Worthy, but he is the wide receiver one for this team,
Starting point is 00:47:05 and if you're getting him in the seventh, eighth round, yeah, I'm willing to take that gamble personally. I think that's where I am now. We're early August, but let's say we get to the end of August and the ADP is holding for Rice and we still haven't heard anything. At some point, it becomes worth the risk. I think it becomes a target. Yeah, I mean, it's not even like I'm willing to take that risk on.
Starting point is 00:47:31 It's I want to take that risk on. Because the upside for Rushie Rice is really, really high. And it's a really blah part of the draft for me. Because it's Rome, Rushie Rice, Jaden Reed, which you and Andy really like him. Chris Godwin, he's Rome, Rasheed Rice, Jaden Reed, which you and Andy really like him. Chris Godwin is, he's somewhat interesting. Then the Chiefs rookie, Xavier Worthy, Calvin Ridley, big time. Andy is big time into Calvin Ridley. And then the running backs are Montgomery, Ramondre, Najee, Tony Pollard, Zemir White. So it's a weird part of the draft for me. So I'm
Starting point is 00:48:04 between David Montgomery or taking the chance on Rasheed Rice. Rasheed Rice, just looking at this, I wanted to pull this up. Yeah, give it to me. From week 12 on, which is the last, what, seven games of his rookie season, he was the wide receiver nine in fantasy points, averaging 14.9 fantasy points per game over that final stretch was obviously important in the playoffs as well. So as a rookie coming into his second year,
Starting point is 00:48:32 and everything from camps have been like he is the wide receiver one for this team. So I'm all about it. I think in the fact that it's a 10-team league, and I feel like I can get away with it, like maybe take a little bit more risk. It's easier to replace a wide receiver here because of the waiver wire
Starting point is 00:48:52 and everything. I'm going to go to Rasheed Rice. Roma Dunze goes next. Dak Prescott is the 8-0-1. I'm back on the clock. There was two guys who I was considering, so I'll just take the second guy, David Montgomery. Those were the two highest guys in my queue that I wanted. David Montgomery and Rasheid montgomery if i could trade teams with you right absolutely not just because you get later guy i could have drafted them last round i chose not to
Starting point is 00:49:14 um the guy that i would take here if my team was not tyreek hill and devon hn would be Rheem Mostert, but that's too much tuna. Can't. Sir, sir, it's dolphin safe now. Oh, yeah? Okay. It better be. I love dolphins. That was like, do you guys remember that?
Starting point is 00:49:39 That was like a big deal in, what, the 90s or something? All the tuna fishing that were getting that big trouble because they were scooping up dolphins that's rude yeah so leave them alone I need a running back however I had set up a queue of a lot of players um that that I liked I hope it's empty it is empty but one so this pick will be pretty easy I I had uh Rushie Rice I had David Montgomery I had Ramond Ray Stevenson some players in there that I really liked. The last one that was in there is Jaden Reed. He dropped to me, you know, we talked about it in the ready to roll. Jaden Reed has a very good, easy pathway forward. And you know what really kind of sparked my imagination on Jaden Reed was when Andy brought up the other day, comparing him to Tank Dell, who I'm madly in love with. I would have taken Tank Dell rounds ago.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I did. Right, yes. But the thing is, who's the better offense? Is it Houston or is it Green Bay? I don't know. It's a fair question. It's a fair question, but they're in the same tier of offense. You go, okay, Tank Dell, is he the number one target?
Starting point is 00:51:03 He could be, but right now I think you probably don't have him as the number one target. It's just as likely that Jaden Reed is. Who's used more in the Reds? I mean, they're very comparable to each other. Which is what we've been talking about of the value of C.J. Stroud versus the value of Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:51:19 The fact that C.J. Stroud went at the 5-0-8. Jordan Love is still available here in the eighth round. And to me, really, it's a who's going to finish higher, C.J. Stroud or Jordan Love? And I don't have confidence to say one way or the other. I think they're in the same tier. Oh, dadgummit. You took Jayden Reed, Chris Godwin, DeAndre Hopkins, Javante Williams.
Starting point is 00:51:49 What was the side? It was Javante Williams. Javante, okay. Yeah, I'm running out of running backs I like here. And then DeAndre Johnson. And so I'm going to just go ugly and nasty. Before you do it, because I was going to – like Javante was who I was kind of locking in on here of are we –
Starting point is 00:52:10 we are in a time warp with Javante Williams of starting the offseason, being really like staunch in our – I'm talking about last year. Javante Williams is coming off of the injury. Be careful. Be careful. Be careful because all the reports at a camp, they're going to be flowery and pillowy soft of Javante Williams' back. And we know that guys can, like Adrian Peterson, superhuman. But Javante Williams, we were really, really scared about him.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And then all the training camp, the hype and the drumbeat got so loud that I think all three of us were kind of like, okay, maybe we're wrong. Maybe Javante Williams can do it. We were not wrong. And now I feel like we're kind of repeating that cycle of off Javante, Jaleel McLaughlin, Estime, these other guys that are on the team, what's going to happen? And they're swaying me again.
Starting point is 00:53:15 You're going back into Javante. Yeah, I'm being more and more swayed that as the training camp stuff comes out, that Javante Williams is the guy. The beat reporters are saying, Audrick Estime looks very good in training camp, but Javante is still the RB1, and he's in the ninth round. This is a Sean Payton RB1 potential who caught a ton of passes last year. He was just a very inefficient player returning from his knee injury. He said, another year back.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Where are you at in the cycle of Javante Williams? I am pretty much where you are, where I find myself being slightly more open. We had a plan early this offseason. We talked about it with Javante, which is either there's only two cases for him. Either he is fully recovered from the injury and he's back to being an awesome star or he's never going to be an awesome star his his knee injury affected him to where he's just a guy and maybe he will still be the volume based player that he was last year he got a lot of work but he still wasn't good for fantasy and so that all is going to be indicative of camp reports it's one of the only players that i'm like actively waiting to hear the rosy flowery stuff but it's got to be rosier reports it's one of the only players that I'm like actively waiting to hear
Starting point is 00:54:25 the rosy flowery stuff but it's got to be rosier than it's been I mean there's been there's been comments lately of a couple weeks ago of like is he on the roster bubble that's not the comments of saying whoa he's back now the last thing I heard was Peyton uh Sean Peyton talking about how he's lost weight and is looking good in camp. So I'm going to keep waiting, but I want to hear profuse. I want to hear, wow, he looks unbelievable. Because he should be looking unbelievable if he's back to health. So that's my stance on him.
Starting point is 00:54:59 So I need a running back here, and I'm going to do something very, very gross. But this is where you draft this player because, personally, I can't take Raheem Oster, who I would love to have here. Three dolphins too much. Nick Chubb, I'm out on. Three dolphins too much. Three darts. Zach Moss is interesting here, but I feel like I need a solid guy. Sometimes I'm going to swing for the fence.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I would take Jonathan Brooks, but I've only got Saquon and Devon Achan right now. So I want a solid guarantee. I don't know about Eckler. I don't know about Chubb and all these other guys, but I do know that there is a guy who, when he got the opportunity from week 10 on last year was the running back nine in half ppr fantasy points who is now the only starter he's the only decent guy on his team they're talking about sixth round rookies running as number two and you know where i'm going right i don't know where nasty is on this i got you i got you i'm gonna take him you have to it's nasty but i'm gonna take devin singletary okay This is where, usually at the end of drafts, I'm bypassing Devin Singletary because he's an RB2 without massive upside.
Starting point is 00:56:12 But that's what I'm looking for right now, roster construction-wise. And there is a place for him here. I definitely believe he will be a top 24 running back this season. You took Devin Singletary. It's nasty, but I get it. Absolutely. Xavier Worthy, Jordan Love, then Calvin Ridley, which I am realizing that we hadn't yet talked about the Hopkins knee injury, just of the timing of when that happened. Obviously, it has not affected his ADP just yet, but DeAndre Hopkins suffered a knee injury that they said he is going to miss
Starting point is 00:56:46 several weeks to the point of we got an update I think yesterday that said he's not going to have to have surgery. But that's the type of injury that we're talking about now with DeAndre Hopkins who is an older wide receiver, 32? Yes, 32. So Calvin Ridley does have more appeal i still have my will levis concerns but getting calvin ridley here in the ninth he'll certainly move up so that's just that's something to pay attention to yeah i mean obviously with andy not on the show this is the first time ever
Starting point is 00:57:20 that calvin ridley has gone drafted by a computer because usually Andy will grab him a round or two ahead of ADP. He is very all in on Calvin Ridley. So Jason, just real quick, your team is Tyreek, Saquon, H-Shan, Mark Andrews, Cooper Cup, T. Higgins, Kyler Murray, Jaden Reed, and nasty, nasty Devin Singletary. I have Bijan Robinson, Kyron Williams, Trey McBride, Jalen Waddell, Anthony Richardson, Tank Dell, Rasheed Rice, and David Montgomery. Looking at the wide receivers, this is the rookie place. This is where rookie wide receivers are supposed to go in drafts. But Ladd is there, Keon Coleman, Brian Thomas. And then at the running back position, Moss, you you brought him up he's still there that
Starting point is 00:58:06 the Zach Moss Chase Brown can't battle you need to keep watching that because it seems to be tightening Jalen Warren uh Trey Benson is I think Trey Benson should not be here I think Trey Benson should not be this high in ADP he is being overdrafted at least when you balance that with the way that the Arizona Cardinals coaches are talking about it. I thought you were saying he shouldn't still be available to be drafted here. No. And I was shocked. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:58:33 we're local here. We know that right now the camp reports aren't glowing on Trey Benson. I think this is, you know, my far and away like prospect draft grade-wise, pre-draft, he was my number one running back. I believe yours as well.
Starting point is 00:58:49 So it's been very disappointing to hear that he's in a camp battle with DeMarcato and Michael Carter. Like, he should have fully established himself as the running back, too. So I'm taking Christian Watson here. I'll take my swing to find the Packers wide receiver one and just cross my fingers and hope. Brock Bowers went at the end of the ninth, then Hollywood Brown. I am back.
Starting point is 00:59:14 So this is where we're trying to find some real upside. I have three running backs. I have four wide receivers. The running backs who are, I mean, I really want one of have four wide receivers. The running backs who are, I mean, I really want one of these rookie wide receivers. Lad? You gonna take my lad? It would be really funny if I
Starting point is 00:59:34 did that. You think I should do that? I think you should not do that. Why don't you just tell me who you're gonna take? Man. Okay, so between McConkie, Keon Coleman, Brian Thomas. I mean, you can make cases for all of them. I'm going to take JSN.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Oh, really? Yeah. I love that. Sometimes you got to remember just how good a player can be despite, let's call it human error up in Seattle last year. Lots and lots of human error with the way that they use JSN with the new coaching staff. We're hopeful that that will bounce around.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I'm going to take, so, I mean, JSN, yeah, 52% of snaps for the first month, which he was recovering from the wrist injury. So he was one of those rookies where he lost time to the injury, and it kind of deletes your rookie year. It takes a special circumstance for that to happen, and then you really break out. So I still believe in Jackson Smith and Jigba the player. I do too, completely.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I believe that he was used in buffoonish ways, and I'm very excited about Grubb's system. So we're in sync there. Ladd McConkie, Nick Chubb, Zach Moss, Keon Coleman, Brian Thomas. When I look at that, this is the tier of the questionable guys who all could break out and have awesome seasons. JSN, Ladd McConkie, Keon Coleman, Brian Thomas, and there's one more to me. And so I'm going to take that player.
Starting point is 01:01:05 And Andy is in on this play. I know you're out. But it's Jamison Williams, who... Oh, I'm not out in the 10th. Okay, all right. Well, yeah, I mean, no one... You're not really, you know... Yeah, I'm not out on anybody in the 10th.
Starting point is 01:01:18 You're just swinging for fences here. And Jamison Williams, his camp reports have been great. His opportunity, he should be the number two target like he really should he should overtake Sam Laporta as the number two target in this office I don't know that he will but in the 10th round you have the the option this was a what was he like the number 12 pick in the NFL draft he was it was very high yes very very high um Kyle vet me on that um 12 okay he was 12 got it. So yeah, I'll take Jamison Williams there. And then the nice thing is after I took Jamison Williams, a little tight end run of David
Starting point is 01:01:52 Njoku, TJ Hawkinson, Fergalicious, and Brock Purdy. So I still have all the running backs and wide receivers left. And there is a running back that I like. In fact, there's two running backs I like. Let's talk about these two guys because they're in the same tier they're in the same situation I think both are really talented human beings as running backs like really good running back okay so just a quick recap you got Hill Barkley H.E. and Andrews Cup Higgins Kyler Jane Reed Devin Singletary Jamison Williams and you're looking at two running backs. I'm looking at two running backs. Jalen Warren and Tajay Spears. Okay. You know, they're both the perceived backups.
Starting point is 01:02:30 They're both the perceived backups. Jalen Warren has proven that he can be really, really good. When given the opportunity, he's phenomenal. They've improved their offensive line. Now they've got Arthur Smith there that can help the run game but also frustrate, you know, utilization. And then you've got Tajay Spears, who is always, you know, around Tennessee, he is just completely talked about as they have two starters. You know, right now it's being drafted like Tony Pollard is the starter and Tajay is the backup. That is not how I believe they will be deployed.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Maybe Tony Pollard will be the starter and get the first handoff over Tajay, but I think they are going to be interchangeable 50-50 backs. So who would you draft? Which one of those guys gets you more excited? Man, I think it's a really tough call. I think I'm going to go Jalen Warren right there, though. All right, I'm just going to listen to you here. And I'm not trying to trick.
Starting point is 01:03:31 I just think that I would go Jalen Warren. I'll take Jalen Warren in the 11th round as my running back four. I like that. All right, Jalen Warren, Austin Eckler, Trey Benson, Caleb Williams, Dallas Goddard, the Dr. Dalton Schultz. This pick is pretty easy for me. It's Blake Corum. I am taking the backup to Kyron Williams
Starting point is 01:03:53 because I truly believe that if Kyron Williams goes down, then Blake just goes right in, and he gives me maybe not 100% of Kyron. I hope so, but at least a good percentage of what Kyron can give. You've talked about that a lot. It's one of the rare cases over the years where if you draft a certain player, you are also drafting their backup. So that's the one backup I'll take.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Brian Robinson, Gus Edwards. And then to take for my final pick, so wide receivers, is there anybody with actual upside? Curtis Samuel, maybe he ends up the number one wide receiver for Buffalo. Khalil Shakir is being talked about a lot as well from Buffalo. I mean, Josh Palmer would have been really interesting here had the Justin Herbert foot issues not appeared. So over at running back, Jerome Ford is there.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I think Jerome Ford is a great first chunk of the season while we wait for Nick Chubb to return. I think that Jerome Ford is a good player for that. But the drumbeat of Chase Brown is starting to get to a point where I think we have to listen to it. Oh, come on! Jared Goff, Tua, Romeo Dobbs, Justin Herbert, and Tajay Spears right before Jason. I didn't even think about Tajay making it back to me because he was very high in ADP.
Starting point is 01:05:18 And then it was just as the picks kept going, I was like, oh, wait. Maybe Tajay will come all the way back, and then I can not have to choose between him and Warren, but one pick before me. It went after your pick, Goff, Tua, Dobbs, Herbert, Spears, and now I'm looking at Zico Elliott is there.
Starting point is 01:05:39 At wide receiver, Curtis Samuel, I think, will be involved. You've got rookies like Adonai Mitchell, which the buzz, at least thus far in Adonai, has been. Yeah. Tell me how the buzz has been. Smirking. You can hear the smile in his voice.
Starting point is 01:05:59 It has not been great. The substance has been more focused on Alec pierce being locked in as the wide receiver too yeah if you can't overtake alec pierce alec pierce is in excellent cardiovascular shape he's in great shape um okay so looking at my roster i've got uh Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, T Higgins, Jane Reed, and Williams. So let's see here. I think, man, is it, I think I'm going to do it. It feels bad. I'm going to take Zeke. Zeke and Singletary, man. I got some old guys, but I've got A-chan up there. He's going to be scoring me overall running back number one points when he's healthy.
Starting point is 01:06:53 All right, go ahead and read your team off, Jay. All right, my team at wide receiver Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, T. Higgins, Jaden Reed, and Jamison Williams. I've got Saquon Barkley, Devon A. Chan, Devin Singletary, Jalen Warren, and Ezekiel Elliott. And at my onesies, Mark Andrews and Kyler Murray. At running back, I have B. Jean, Kyron Williams, David Montgomery, Blake Corum, and Chase Brown.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Wide receivers are Jalen Waddell, Tank Dell, Rasheed Rice, Christian Watson, and JSN. And then my onesies are anchored by trey mcbride and anthony richardson feel good about that team i feel pretty good i think that i've got a lot about my team oh i feel okay uh no i got him the truth is 10 team leagues you're always gonna have a lot of talent so it's a matter of getting the right guys who are going to hit especially the later guys you know it's like um if if jameson williams hits that's huge if if jsn hits for you or christian watson those those are the you're going to need to take shots in a league like this of guys that really come through it's
Starting point is 01:08:01 ironic that i have i've got jayden reed and you've got Christian Watson. Right. I think one of those guys comes through in a major way and our teams will be really healthy for it, but it won't be both. Right. We did this mock draft on Sleeper and if you didn't know,
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