Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Keep/Trade/Cut + Shoot for the Moon! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/9

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

Fantasy Football show for Apr 9, 2026. Tough draft decisions for the 2026 fantasy football season! Andy, Mike, and Jason debate a number of tricky Keep/Trade/Cut draft scenarios. Plus, NFL News, and a Dynasty trade discussion about the value of the 1.01 rookie pick, Jeremiyah Love. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. Get the lowest price on the 2026 UDK at UltimateDraftKit.com - Instant access to the Dynasty Pass with the UDK+ Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. He's back. Look at that smile. I don't know what all this. That's a million-dollar smile. What all these rumors were about? Kaching, kaching, kaching, kich.

Reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated. I nothing was wrong you guys just mixed up the recording time are bad that's on us as you can see I have no problems by way of this one was much faster than the last one you guys don't

you don't eat bolts guys don't eat nuts and bolts no no I saw a a reel the other day of a guy who eats couches that could be me wow yeah too soft I don't know man too soft It can still get your teeth.

Yeah, I mean, this is a hideaway. There's just so many problems that you could have is your thing. Right. And they don't have to be like, like you could have just, I don't know, massive foot fungus issues. You probably do. Oh, maybe. Might have some gout. And you wouldn't know because I get to put a shoe over it.

For the podcast, that's not a big deal. Now, we. Warts all over my life. I mean, littered with boils. Maybe I do. Maybe I don't. But no, I have to have my thing be some sort of genetically misengineered teeth. Why do they keep breaking?

The bolts? I'm too intense. That's what it is. And to be fair to you, not at all to your teeth. No. The taco you were eating was a soft taco. It was a soft taco. And it was my front tooth.

Oh, man. I thought it was really genuinely big of you. It was big of you. Your profile on, on, you put it on X, I think you put it on Instagram. It was very funny. It was so funny and you just put it out there for the whole world to see. Well, we put it out for the whole world to hear of the show. You start the show and you guys just start laughing to yourselves profusely and then one thing leads to another.

I'm like, I got to get out ahead of this. What we need to do is get out ahead of the next time and figure out what we. There will be a next time. I sure will. I just hope it's me. days since Andy's last. Yes, right now it's zero. Like, this could go on the screen's easy.

Look, it took it just four hours in a dental chair and I'm back. No big deal. We're glad to have you back. Oh, my gosh. It was so ridiculous. It was moments before we were going to record, too. I just couldn't. I thought about it.

I just couldn't come in here and host the show. Oh, I would have to look at it the whole time. It would have been well-timed for Halloween if I wanted to be. be, you know, Lloyd, Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber. Welcome into the show Thursday, April 9th of Fantasy Footballers podcast, Mike

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Join thefoot.com for that. Our quick question, I've actually seen a lot. These questions come up frequently. Like what, normally they're worded like this. What would you ask for? if someone wanted the 101 in the rookie draft from you. First of all, that is a very difficult question to answer generically for all leagues because you don't know what players are on other teams.

I can't tell you a combination of players, which oftentimes that's more what it would be. It would be two really good vets or a star and a younger prospect or something like that. you know my my answer to the question to give like a value a lay of the land on value if i am looking to unload the 101 which is jeremiah love like so if i'm looking to get rid of jeremiah love in a dynasty league then i would want to get a young stud wide receiver plus because i think right now especially as you get close to the draft and people get hotter and bothereder um like so Drake London and a 27 first, the 27 draft class is great.

I would do that deal. I would be willing to, you know, say, there you go. I feel like just to kind of, I mean, that would be an easy yes for me. I guess I'm surprised at, like, is there not a world where you would rather have Drake London than the 101? Independent of the pick. I know, yes. You're going for value. I understand that.

But like, if that trade was coming your way and. your depth that both positions notwithstanding. You can make an easy argument for that. In fact, the easiest way to think about this is in a startup draft, where would you draft those guys? And I would take Drake London ahead of Jeremiah Love simply because of the position. A young, wide receiver, I think he's 24 years old still versus a running back. To be clear, I don't think you read the whole quick question. But the example was to ask for a shoot for the moon trade. So obviously, Drake London and the 27 first. That's a lot. That is shooting for the moon. But there will

be managers in leagues that would be willing to do that. They're running back needy. And they're going to say, I'm going to get the next Bijon, the next Gibbs, the next superstar young running back that is a foundational piece. There's just not a lot of them in the league. We pretty much know this is going to be one. Yeah, I kind of jumped in too quick. Steve had written in and just asked about being on a competitive team, what would be a shoot for the moon type trade, to float to league mates, you want to get somebody that helps you right now.

It could take time for Jeremiah Love to get going, depending on where the draft destination is. You get the extra pick. Would you trade, Mike, would you trade the 101 in this year's draft la Jeremiah I love for Garrett Wilson and a 2027 first round pick? Garrett Wilson is so tough. He will be turning 26 this year. I brought him up on this week's Dynasty podcast.

because, like, I'm, I am the Garrett Wilson guy, and even I forgot how good it was. Like, before, so he played his first six weeks, and he got hurt in week six, but it's like, I brought up weeks one through five last year. Garrett Wilson was the wide receiver five at that time before getting hurt. And once he got hurt, they completely shut him down. So even with as terrible as it was for the New York Jets and for Garrett Wilson, he was absolutely bawling out. I lean, I think Garrett Wilson, I'd rather have him in the pick. If you're just talking to one for one, I think I'm going to go Jeremiah Love.

Like Garrett Wilson, I was reading through our startup rankings, and I got to Garrett Wilson before I thought, okay, if I'm in a startup, I might take Jeremiah Love over him. And the next name on the list, which is a, Jay, interesting for our conversation on the Dynasty Pot is Rashid Rice. Yeah. Like, if I have Rashid Rice, we discussed the Dynasty Pot of,

is he in the contract year? He's in the contract year. He's an unrestricted free agent because he was on a first round pick. This is his fourth season. He's asking for big time money. I could see him not showing up. Do you want to quote that more directly? Yeah, he said he's looking for JSN money, which you're not going to get. You're not that guy, Bell. That's what he wants, which means you could end up in some holdout situation. But Rushi Rice, from a dynasty perspective, is the widest range of outcomes player possible because there is the reality where they re-sign Rushie Rice to a large big-time deal, a wide receiver one deal.

That could happen. That could absolutely happen. If that happens, Rushie Rice is a top five dynasty wide receiver tied to Patrick Mahomes. You know, you can't look at season totals because he's usually suspended perhaps. for the year and that comes with that risk. But on a per game basis, I mean, when he was playing last year with, he was like the wide receiver three. On a per game basis, he's outstanding, he's young. So that would be one of the best assets in dynasty. You kind of got to call your shot. Because the other option that could happen is at the number nine pick in the NFL draft,

they take the number one wide receiver. If Carnell tape falls to him or if they, you know, McCoy Lemon. Peter Schrager just had them taking Jordan Tyson at nine. And that in his mock, that was the wide receiver off the board. If that happens, that can easily be seen as a replacement. Like we can't afford to pay Rushie Rice with Patrick Mahomes, with Chris Jones, or we don't want to. Or we don't want to with the headache. We're going to draft a replacement. We'll have two great wide receivers this year. And we'll let Rushie Rice go get a monstrous contract in the offseason, giving us Penn Story picks. And when Rushie Rice goes to another team that isn't Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reed and the little gadgety utilizing him perfectly,

He's like, is he a wide receiver too? He's not going to go out there. Yeah, I mean, so he's one of those guys where he's on my main dynasty roster. And I'm like, should I be trying to get out? Because I see a lot on Twitter right now of like now that the suspension is lifted. And we know he's free to play. He's way under value. You should go trade for him right now.

And I'm still like, I mean, I could see that outcome. It's the range of outcomes that's so tantalizing and terrifying. for Rashi Rice. I mean, he could literally, like you just said, if he is the guy and gets a contract, he's... He's a top five wide receiver. He still carries risk, but on field, there will be very little risk.

So, like, wide receiver wise, who would you, you know, who would you take first, Jeremy Love or this wide receiver startup? So it's just, you know, you need all the value. So we'll go, Malik neighbors. Neighbors. Okay, okay. London. Yeah, London. Okay. I think it gets a little more difficult here.

Teterola McMillan. That was the name I knew you were going to say. I would take Teteroma as well. Nico. That's Rufflet. Nico's 27 years old. Yeah, that's Rolfo. Okay.

George? I would take love. You take love? Okay. And then so you'd probably take love over Garrett Wilson? Correct. Okay. So it's right around that wide receiver 10 range that you're,

you're a little bit more interested in love where the value proposition swaps for you? Yeah, I mean that's where I think trading for one of those value switch proposition players like a Garrett Wilson who I would take love above but Gary Wilson plus a 27 first and a great draft class

that would be utilizing the 101 well. All right, let's get into some news. News and notes from around the league. The Texans have picked up the fifth year option on their quarterback C.J. Stroud, the recently heavily maligned C.J. Stroud. Well, Johnson as well. Less maligned. Just embrace. Come on, Stroud. Come on, buddy.

When the, uh, when the defenses. Yeah. Getting Tank Dale back. Mm-hmm. I mean, okay. I mean, he was much better with Tank. Yeah, I mean, he was just much better. Yeah, that's fair. Before. You know, I think when you have a defense as good as they do, the pressure is going to be squarely on his shoulders. Can he handle it? I don't know. We're going to be talking about our top 15 running backs and wide receivers

on next week's episodes. This guy is in the top 15. Devon A. Chan did not report to the first day of voluntary off-season workouts. He is in the final year of his rookie deal. If I were to be Devon A. Chan for a moment, And I had seen the entire offseason of we're building everything around you. And he's one of the key, like, tent posts of the team. And I'd be like, give me that money.

Yeah. I'm not. Where's my money? I'm not paid like a foundational player right now. Yeah. Lots of proclamations about how great he is and then no money. There were also rumors, though, that they might trade him as well. And considering they've traded everyone else and dismantled their team, I don't know that they want to pay for a,

running back on a second contract when you are a complete tear down to the nubs rebuild. So I don't blame him for, you know, trying to get that money, not showing up to the voluntary portion of offseason programs. This is not a big deal. But big deals always start with this. So it's a just pay attention to monitor.

I think it could end up in a place where we're much happier where A. Chan can navigate himself a better deal. Yeah. And, you know, we didn't expect, like, we thought James Cook might have a hard time getting a deal. James Cook got himself a deal. I look at A. Chan in the same breath, if not better. I've got him ranked very high. I think the highest of the three of us in terms of my top 15.

He's just a machine. He's just that good. Yeah. Stay tuned to Tuesday to find out where. That sounded like a threat. It did. Or else. Or else we won't tell you where we have him ranked.

Kyle Pitts signed the franchise tag. We'll report to OTAs. He'll get paid big money for one more year. John Harbaugh will be monitoring this all offseason, unfortunately. Malik neighbors won't be on the field until into training camp and closer to the season. It's going to be a while. It was ACL. It was meniscus.

Don't love this. Matthew Betts, our injury expert said look for him to return to his, you know, to return closer to his pre-injury level. over the back half of the year. This was a place where I know, because of this injury, I don't have neighbors as high as you guys have. Yeah, I probably have them too high

with this new piece of information. We all have expectations and hopes, and we know what the talent level is. It's just his surgery date was October. It's a big recovery. He could make some tremendous progress and we could be ready to see him on the field to start the year.

But we'll see. That whole team is just going to be one of the most interesting storylines in fantasy football all year long. What does Jackson Dart look like with the new head coach? Is Malik neighbor's going to be back to his old self as Cam Scataboo, the guy? Do they add another big time wide receiver in the draft? I mean, that seems... Jeremiah, I love actually going to be drafted.

Oh, gosh, no. No, no. Just stop saying that. Just stop mentioning it. To be fair, I am usually the one saying there's no way they're going to do that. I'm giving them too much respect. They cannot possibly do that. It will be the most...

No, I really don't believe that they will draft Jeremiah and Love. There's a lot of people saying, oh, they like them. They might draft them. Why would they possibly do that? So, I mean, are you prepared to turn on Harbaugh and company? Oh, yes. Okay, all right. I just want to make sure that.

They do scat like that. We're talking like this. When actions show up, there must be a reaction. For sure. Okay, good. Back will be turned. Did you see all the news about like. Harbaugh, you've been warned.

The Isaiah likely. utilization and expectations for his stats and things like that. Those comments from Harbaugh? I didn't see that. I don't know if you guys had brought it up on the show. Nope. Um, for no reason. Um, but no, there was some conversation about just likely and, and him putting up the stats that fantasy players want to see. Oh. So, oh. Again, another exciting storyline on this, on this team. To, uh, did John Harbon know he had Isaiah likely on his team? Yeah, he did. And you know what? For multiple years? You want to know what's been said? You want to know what's been said for the last three years. Oh, no.

Is it the Rashad Bateman stuff? No, it's the Isaiah likely stuff. Isaiah likely is going to be a pro bowl. He did say that last year. He's going to be so involved. I've been holding on to Isaiah likely on my dynasty team waiting for that transition. Gonna. Gonna be. Oh, gonna be. This is what we're waiting

for. We're all trying to find the guy who's going to do this. Theo Johnson, breakout year coming. That's all that means. We'll take a break. We'll get into some keep trade cut. All right, guys, let's have some more fun conversations and dive right in. Keep trade cut. All right, time for some more strong opinions.

We're going to play some keep trade cut, some different categories for these discussions. A lot of these are dealing with positions and players that we are in the midst of ranking for next week's shows as well. So maybe some opinions will be shared a little bit early right now. So let's start with three names at the running back position, all top 15 picks in redraft leagues. Keep trade cut. Ashton Genti of the Las Vegas Raiders. Devon A. Chan of the Miami Dolphins and Omari and Hampton of the Los Angeles Chargers. Oh, man.

And this is for just redraft, just this season who scores the most fantasy points. Yep. I, you guys had your top 15 running backs. The keep is easy. Before, yeah, it's A-Chain. Yes, the keep is A-C-M. Oh, we all agreed there? Yes, we are all agreed there.

Yeah, A-chan is, he's one of a handful of guys that I think are in conversation for that top five. Like to finish, I mean, could A-chan finish number one? Probably not on the dolphins, but, I mean, he has the talent, the past-catching ability. It's not impossible to me. I, you know, I would say I wouldn't put it at zero percent. I don't know if we would say yes to the Gentie Hampton potential. Ash and Gentie, Amari and Hampton, I believe both of you had them back to back in your top 15.

I do. I do as well in an opposite order. They are not back to back. Okay. I misspoke. They are currently two spots apart. You guys both put Hampton first. That is correct.

Yeah. Does that scare you at all? Yeah. It does scare me. I mean, Genti is obviously the higher touted player, but if you look at the situations of the two teams, I have a lot of high expectations, high hopes for the new, healthier and improved offensive line for the Chargers, better quarterback situation, just a better offense that Hampton should be a part of. And I think that coming into year two, he will be the guy in that backfield.

I'm very excited for him. But it's very difficult to say, you know, the guy who is drafted higher, the guy who has less competition, currently none in his backfield, who's, you know, going to be very involved and super talented. And I would say the majority of people, I mean, if you look at rankings in general or average draft positions, Gentie goes ahead of Hampton. So it's a take to say Hampton over Gentie. But I want the offense. I love the offense too. I love the offensive line improvements. I think the difficult thing for me mentally is the fact that you could see,

the Raiders fundamentally building the entire offense around Genty. You saw games isolated games from Genti where he was a fantasy force, especially towards the end of the year, on a team that was absolute trash. You didn't get to see the sample

size of Hampton or the usage of Hampton that make you say he's guaranteed to be the bell cow of this roster. Everything we think logically, rational coaching, he's the dude and he's going to get the opportunity, but Harbaugh scares me a little bit. Harbaugh is a win at all costs,

win by any means necessary. We're going to play the players that we have the most confidence in. And because I didn't get to see Hampton be a three-down workhorse for more than a blip, maybe one game, right? One game and he still got banged up in that game. I feel like that's what puts a little hesitation in there for me where I know, I know Gentie's going to be what this offense is all about. Coaching-wise, I mean, Kubiak has come out and said he wants a split backfield. Coaching-wise, I think it's a wash. I think both guys could go

split backfield. Both guys could lean on their star. The thing Gentie has going for him right now is like, you can want a 50-50 timeshare all you all you dream about, but if you don't have another running back worth anything on your roster and they don't, you can't do it. So for me, I'm A-chan as the keep.

I'm Genty as the trade. I'm Hampton as the cut. Yep. It makes me sad. You're going to do that too? Yeah, it's just the trade value of Genti up. I still I have Hampton over him right now over Gentie but people people want If we're really playing keep trade cut

I would trade Gentie because he's going to carry more value than Hampton so Hampton gets the cut but I would rather have Hampton over Jampton. Ashton Genty is still a fun unknown where it's like you know you feel like hey well if Hampton has a great year he's a top 10 guy

you're like if Ashton Denty puts it together. He is, they took him, what, fourth overall for, four, three, fifth, I don't remember, wherever, for a reason, because the dude is electric and he can, he can be your offense. But I will, you know, the probability of when do they switch quarterbacks, running backs under rookie quarterbacks, you know, there's just the years of data on that one is I'm going to lean that I want the Justin Herbert offense. Did we talk?

Did you guys talk, Kirk Cudder's? Yes. Okay, you did. Okay. Yeah, I mean, that that could be, Kirk Cousins could be the dude for a good half a year there too. And obviously we're happy with KAP's writing system. I genuinely think for, for Brock and for Genty, that Fernando Mendoza Sr. is great for this team. I think he's going to start the beginning of the season and be very good. And yes, I am calling Kirk Cousins, the father. I was putting, I was trying to figure, so he's Fernando, Mendoza Sr.

Yes. For sure. Okay, I'm waiting to you now. They do look identical. And they act identical. They are holding hands right now. Skipping. Skipping and somehow wearing gold chains.

I don't know. Yeah. I mean, they're two peas and a box. Which are those three running back scores the most touchdowns? Oh, that's a good question. I would take Hampton on the touchdown front. Yeah.

I agree with that. Who sees the most total opportunities? That's H-N, right? Yes. Should be. Okay. Let's turn the page here. Let's go ahead and hit a second group of Keep Trade Cut, and it's, it is a perfect group. They all hang out for sure after the way the year ended. This is wide receivers from 2025, whose seasons ended on a sour note. Keep Trade Cut. Garrett Wilson. I tried to come back. Couldn't. Yeah. Ladd McConkey. Woof. That was a letdown. Still a great player, just not for fantasy the way we would have liked.

And then Emeka, Abuka, everybody's darling to woof as well. I mean, this was, to start the year, you're feeling good. Oh, I mean, you were feeling like you had the next Justin Jefferson. Yeah, when you started the year. You said about the second most fancy points all time over his first five games to start a career. Listen to this, guys, because I have to say, from week. Week 11 on, Abuka averaged three receptions in 33 yards, and McConkey averaged two and a half receptions in 26 yards.

That is like from from darlings. I mean, McConkey was a monster the year before. Yeah. Saw his target share decline, and then both of those guys useless. That's not from like week 15 on. That's 11 on, a deletion from your roster. And obviously, Gary Wilson with the injury deleted as well. At least with Lad, you were able to bench him.

You know what I mean? Like a Mecca, Buka, at the end of the year, you kept going like, I got to play him. He's too good. You kept plugging him in the lineup, and then he'd go out there and get his three catches. To me, the keep is Garrett Wilson. Yeah, you're happy with that? Mike, Mike, he's so happy, but he has no microphone. Is my mute stuck on?

I don't know. Check my mute, John. Yeah, I'm back. We're leaving that in? Ah, sure. All right, Mike was muted for a little while because Josh didn't like what he was saying. You know, the thing is, let me quote him. He said, hazah!

That was what you missed. When I took, when I, when I, when I took Garrett Wilson with verbally just now as my keep, Mike Hazard. But because right now, Al Borland is on a cruise, we are, we are with the, we're with the backups. You know what I mean? This is the new referees. And so... And we actually don't have a B team. Right.

Straight to the C team. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are brutal. You think I'm going to let that opportunity go? Did you hit the new button? Is that what happened? I have, but I had let's... You want to do a test?

Microphone. I think he's terrified over there. One, two. One, two. One. Oh, now it doesn't mute at all. C team. Now you know. I know it's not their fault. I'll leave it.

But it could be. Sometimes. Look, just bar is, are we recording? Josh, are we recording? Oh, that's a great bar. Okay. His microphone is not working. He said yes into a microphone.

We are falling apart. We're at the D team. We are, you guys are now the D team. He is sweating. Oh, yeah. Well, I can see it. He will knock his teeth out and get out of here. Garrett Wilson, Ladd McConkey, Abuka.

I can tell you right now, it is, it is Garrett Wilson as the keep for me as well with a, with a glance at a Buka. You can't have... I thought about this on the drive-in this morning. And this is all roster construction and philosophical differences between people, but I don't believe you can build a team

where you know everything that you have. I just don't think you can do that. I don't think that the best idea... You're saying fantasy football roster construction? Fantasy football roster construction. You just... You can't draft all players you know what you have. You have to have some risk that it can go either direction.

Like Abuca represents tremendous upside and also you know that it can go sour. To me, I feel like we do know what we have in Ladd-McConkie. I do not see this guy. I don't think it's going to change for Ladd-McConkey. He is not going to be your full offense. If anything, they're going to do more and more and more to take less, to take more off of him.

To spread the ball around. Yeah, I mean, the first year, he was all that there was. You now drafted Hampton. You have more past catchers. Gadsden. And he's just not prototypical. He's not the kind of guy that's going to carry. the offense. He's not, but there's a, there's a 222 targets of Keenan Allen that will not likely

be there. It's amazing that we always have Keenan Allen targets to talk about leaving. No matter when. Yeah. It's always, because we think he's gone until about 10 minutes before kickoff and he'll sign a contract to be right back. No disrespect to McConkey. He's going to settle in the next five years as the wide receiver 21 to 29. That's what he's going to settle in as, in my opinion. If he might take over a game here and there. I don't think he's going to, the offense is not being built around him. It can be built around Garrett Wilson, no question. It will be.

And you have a quarterback now who, as much as I hate him, he's the best quarterback they've had in a long time. So Gino Smith, I'm going to take Garrett Wilson. I'm going to hope for the best for a mecca, Buka, and I'm going to cut Ladd-McConkie. Yeah, I completely agree. And to speak to your roster construction point where you can't just take known assets yesterday on yesterday's dynasty podcast. We were talking about when you're trying to trade low for people, You can't, when you think you're trading low for someone who had a down year, but the path towards success is just clear and obvious, like, oh, okay, well, this guy was injured,

his quarterback's upgraded, whatever, you're not going to really get to trade low. When you want to trade low for someone, it's because I don't know that it gets better, but you've got to call your shot. And that's when you're in the draft, there's going to be guys, once you're after the first three rounds, there's going to be guys in each round that has a wider range of outcomes. You have to take some of those players. For Tampa specifically, and there are a handful of other situations like this, when Mike Evans departs, you immediately go, hey, it's going to be better for Abuka. You also need to look at the other past catching options that they have and say, hey, what do they have in Taz Johnson?

What are they having, Jaila McMillan, those guys? How can they get better? But Abuca's got an opportunity. We know that Mike Evans can't sign a contract with them and show back up. Right. You lost Keenan Allen and you lost Mike Evans, but Mike Evans is. gone. So Ibuka has the opportunity

to show that the beginning of the year was not a fluke. And the beginning of the year was not, I mean, it might have been fluky, like touchdowns were really, really high, but they weren't fluky. Prior to the season, Baker was talking up how good this kid was. There's a reason, prior to that, they drafted him in the

first round. Prior to that, he was great at Ohio State. He had a bad stretch run down the second half of last year. He's a quality player. I think he will almost for sure be the wide receiver one. Chris Godwin could be. But Emeka Abuka, I think, is their best. There's only one of these guys that won't be three for 33 ever. Garibul's. Yeah, I agree with both of you guys. I would disagree

of, I think there is a stronger path forward for McConkey with their offensive line back to health and with Mike McDaniel in their we don't like how will the targets really shake out for that squad? I think it might get flipped on its head. Yeah, I mean I know you were we've always I think as a group

really believed in Ladd-McConkie as a talent. Yeah. Last year I was more out on him and I think it's good for you to speak positive of him. I just want people to know you are the lowest on him. That's fine, but not out loud. just like secret ranking not allowed but it gives you right now it's huge

it's ladd it's Tray Harris that's the starting three Gadsden well yeah I'm talking about the wide receiver position just so between those three guys if they don't do anything else I think there's a chance that lad

has the most targets in the room I feel like fantasy value not play style necessarily but fantasy value over the course of the career Ladd McConkey is Zay Flowers. He can have big games. He can, say, surprisingly was a top 10 wide receiver this last year.

Ladd was a top 12 wide receiver's rookie year. But more than likely is going to be just a helpful asset, not someone that you're winning a championship with because of. That's about how I feel. That's a good comp. Let's talk about some tight ends. If you want to talk tight ends. Tightens with upside.

Oh. Hat-ins with backside. That's what I call them Tadems. Because of the yams. Because of their yams. Sam Leporta, Tucker, Kraft, Harold Fanon. I know my cut. It's Loporta?

Yeah. Oh, man. 15 red zone touchdowns over the last three seasons. We're already here with Sam Leporta? He was the Dynasty tight end won like two years ago. Hunt off the bridge. Oh, my God. My things to remember episode this off season was that Middling tight ends,

absolutely don't matter. Whether you are the Titan 2 or the Titan 12 last year, did not matter. LeBorda's already middling. 100% he's middling. At this point, he's not going to be the Titan one ever again. He is not a target dominant. When I say middling, I basically on that episode was saying that there is, there's really two guys. Now that George Kittle is coming off in ACL, you've got Bowers and McBride. Oh, sorry, Achilles and Ekelyles. Even worse. Bowers and McBride. And if not, then just punt in the whole position forever. Now, the offseason made moves that made it interesting. You have to get someone that can just be like the tight end one.

Otherwise, they're irrelevant. And you had a showing from Tucker Kraft that was worthy of that. And Harold Fanon is... St. LaPorte was the tight end one. He was the tight in one, but that doesn't mean at this stage of the team that he's on. I laughed because I thought I was going to go look and see a three or a two. He actually was the number one. He pulled it out.

But it was with like 11 points in the game. It was a real low-scoring. He's actually been almost the same point for game production. He's not been the same as year one. But we all agree that he is a, he's a trustworthy, competent contributor to the offense, but not is not going to be Travis Kelsey's chief's days with Sam Leporta.

Tucker Kraft. Like this is what I, this is my point. I was bringing up with the, okay, Abuka's got an opportunity, but McMillan and Tess Johnson, these other guys pay attention to him. In Green Bay, everyone wants to say,

oh, now Matthew Golden can do something finally because Dobbs is gone, right? The only thing standing in Matthew Golden's way was Romeo Dobbs. And then instead, there's Tucker Kraft. There's Christian Watson. These are players that might be the bigger beneficiaries

because they're proven. What's that? Jaden Reed. Yeah, Jaden Reed. Tucker Kraft was on fire last year. Does he come back with the same ferocity? Because it wasn't an isolated amount of games. It was some boom games.

Yeah, it's really tough. You could easily make the argument Tucker Kraft over Harold Fanon if it wasn't for the ACL. But coming off of the ACL, I know he's running in straight lines, jogging in straight lines. I saw the other day. His recovery, I'm guessing, is ahead of schedule. Imagine not be.

So to me, if I'm going to take a shot, in any early rounds, middle rounds on a tight end. There are, there's only three guys I would take a middle round shot on, and it would be last year's rookies, depending on what middle round is to you. But Harold Fanon, Colson Loveland, Tyler Warren, you can see the, the path for them becoming absolute dominators, and Tucker Craft's ACL gets in the way of that for me. So I would, I would keep Harold Fanon. Trade Tucker Craft.

trade Tucker Kraft and Cut Sam Laporta who you just You really despise I despise Middle round tight ends And he is a middle round He is the definition Of a middle round

If you could draft Harold Fanon in the sixth round Or Tucker Kraft in the ninth round Which one would you take? Tucker Kraft Yeah If it looks like he's healthy I would take Tucker Kraft

Like if he's on track for week one Would you take Harold Fanon in the sixth round Or Sam Laporta in the 11th round Sixth round for Fanon Probably Probably fanning There were rumors today about, what, Cleveland and Kenyon, Sadiq? Yes, that they did a top 30 visit.

That would be such a punch to the face. Yeah, I mean, it would be terrible for both players. Yeah. However, since I was telling you. You have so many problems, Cleveland. Why? I do this. You already hit on your tight end.

Yeah. I still hesitate a little bit more with Sadiq. So if you went to Cleveland, I'd be like, okay, that's fine. fine. But for my fan and I love him. It makes no sense where I mean they would have to I don't know move their pick.

I don't know. So we're all in agreement on this order or no? Are you considering keeping Tucker Kraft? I am. You look like a guy considering that. I'm willing to take on more risk. Tucker Kraft in

what do we have? Seven and a half games scored 101 fantasy points Harold Fanon played I guess he got injured so we'll put him at 15 games and 15 games he was 150 points

I mean I with a Najuku in the way the first seven weeks not at the end though for Tucker Kraft he had the seventh most points of any tight end over the last decade so that like he was absolutely done yeah the issue

is he's not going to come back week one and be that same guy off the ACL. How are his yams? His yams are they're toasty. They're fine. They're not Fanon's. Fanon's got that Fanny. You're saying Fanon's Yams. Harold Fanny Jr.

Harold Yams. Goodness gracious. It's so weird because it feels like Tucker Craft had this big part. Like he had such a big storyline. The breakout was cool. Hool-Aid man came through the brick wall and you were like, Holy crap. I have Tucker crap for,

I got him for free. Seven for one, 43 and two touchdowns. And then he gets his ACL torn the next week. Yeah, just seven weeks of glory. All right, we'll take a break and we'll do a few more. I really want to know

which of those tight ends Papa Josh would have kept. You know what I mean? Like which one would you have kept? Can he talk? Yeah, I can talk. Dang it. Dang it.

Oh, it was a setup. He fixed it. I don't care what you think about those guys. He's so happy. I take it all back. I take it all back. Also, can you upgrade him? Yeah, you're back to the C team.

I mean, if he can talk and Mike can talk at the same time. Yeah, then he's back to the C team. Yeah, okay. We're back. This is B team stuff. Oh, man. A mid show fix? A mid show B team.

Pretty impressive. Yeah, I got you, Josh. C plus? I'll go C plus. C plus team? You two would love him to flunk him today. Oh, for sure. You do anything else.

I'm moving straight to an F-minus. Detention. The problem with that, Jay, you're insinuating that there's like a B-minus team. Yeah, you open up a whole can't do that. That's fine. I am fine bringing pluses and minuses into this. I am fine with what I said. This show is about nuance.

You know? Yeah. It's fan fannies. Um, late round quarterback keep trade cut. Dack. Herbert. DART. Which.

These, these, this is best ball ADP right now. But Dack. Dack is the QB8. The people finally woke up. It just took. Oh, hey. Dack who, when he plays the whole season, is always awesome. So let me make.

We're finally allowing that to be the truth. Let me make a comp for Dack and see if you guys disagree with. me. There was a period of Ben Rathesberger's career. Oh, yeah. Where he was perennially never drafted. And you just kind of knew in the right games, even

for the right stretches, he could just, like Big Ben, I hate to see him across on my opponent's team, even though Big Ben was like, what, quarterback 10 every year. I hated to see it because you knew he could just throw six touchdowns that game. He definitely could. There was a couple years in there where they

were throwing a ton, but it's just, but But Dack has literally been great. If he plays the whole year. He's never not been a quarterback one in his entire career. Which one of these three is coolest? Jackson Dart. He's pretty drippy.

Jackson Dart. Herbert's the nerd. Oh, for sure. Dach's pretty cool, too. Isn't he dating like Allison Breer or something like that? No. No, that's the artist. Who am I thinking of?

Madison beer. Madison beer. I got it close. How does one get a last name of beer? You just got to have a heritage of drinking. It's like, oh, oh, Grandpa beer.

Like, that's, excuse me, that's Dr. Beer. Mr. Beer? How do you get taken serious?

When your last name is beer? I don't know, man. All right. Jackson Dart. Do they have to wait until they're 21 to like an arrow? that name? Can they be a little kid and be like beer beer before then? Yeah, exactly. It's me. Madison root beer. Cisperella.

We are dumb. Dak, Herbert, Dart. I feel like a similar conversation can we had here about do you know what you have. Jackson Dart is the most enigmatic high upside. We don't know what we don't know situation. Herbert has some of that mixed in with Mike McDaniel's arrival and the potential for the offense. And then Dak, It was really, really good. I mean, George plus CD equals Dax's going to be good. He's more of an injury risk than the other, well, maybe not than the other two guys. And Dart? DART's the biggest injury risk. He's got name fatigue then. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting because there are different play styles here.

I'm always going to prefer. Preferer. What? It didn't even sound funny. Did it sound funny to you? Yes, but it reminded me of a stupid thing. we do when we play pickleball. Whenever it's four to four.

Oh, it's fur. It's fur, fur to fur. I said preferring it. Okay. It brought me right back to when we're serving. Fur to fur. Kind of a sweetest chef. Yeah, exactly.

So anyways, now the Foot Clan knows how to properly score. I'm criticizing Josh. Oh, this is A plus work over here. I'm sorry. This is why they listen. I'm sorry. Fur. Fur.

Anyways, I prefer. The mobile rushing quarterback. So even though you know I have always been a Dax-Stan and I will never stop loving Justin Herbert, I would prefer to have Jackson Dart. The option of one of these guys finishing as the quarterback won, a real true, like, season-winning performance, I need you to rush for 700 yards.

I mean, if I tell you that Neighbors is not himself until week 10. Oh, well, then Jackson Dart will be the wrong pick. Jackson Dart. But what if I told you at pick number five, they drafted Carnell Tate. But what if I told you, Andy, that when you are constructing a fantasy football roster, you sometimes need guys you don't know how they could finish. I just feel like you're going to have to pay for that mystery with Dart in the draft. He's the cheapest of these three currently.

Yeah. On Underdog right now, they are QB 8, 9, and 11, but in terms of 80s. it's DAC is at 79 and DART is at 86. So they all go right next to each other. I'll tell you a secret. When his boy, Cam Scataboo is healthy and back at camp, and when Malik neighbors is running rounds, they will not go in this order.

I completely agree. Possible. It tumble. George is. You want to know why DAC is this high right now, genuinely? It's because it's this time of year and we're getting the paid drafts. It's smarter drafters.

And they know what Dac is. When the casuals all come back, Dak has total name fatigue and he's... He's a guy who can't win playoff games. I don't care. Yeah, I might take Dack when he's the last of the three of them. Jack, it's... I mean, he did.

He struggled to end the year, if you remember. He had a great run. And then if you needed him in the last week 15, 16, those were tougher. But had a nice week 17 against Washington, but not really crazy. We need to know what's going on with George because he is, like, they franchise tagged him. I think he's happy to come back and play.

He's not signed. No, he isn't? Oh, no. Oh, no. Pitts is the one who signed. Yeah. George is going to take this thing to the limit. Oh, he's like, I don't have to practice?

Yeah. And he is George Pickens. George, yeah, there's, George Pickens was waiting to be a superstar. It's not George's beer we're talking about. But he had George has his own stuff that I mean the Pittsburgh got rid of him for a reason And it's what I I honestly have I have no read I don't know what the Cowboys are going to do here I don't know will we get a classic Jerry Jones we wait until training camp george picking still hasn't shown up Then they finally give him the contract and he's not in shape to play football

Do they trade him I think that that is still a a possible that could happen. And that's a huge range of outcomes for just George Pickens the player. If George is not there, then I still like Dak, but he, but DAC would not be my choice if I knew it was just C.D. Lamb. So my answer is probably Dart no matter what. But if I know that George is there ready to go, I don't mind taking the safety of, of Dak Prescott and getting out of the Jackson Dart headbutting everybody. Remember when Herbert was the quarterback two to start the year with a monster 318 and three game and everybody jumped on.

Oh, yeah. Nobody would trade him if they had him. And then you remember he lost all of his offensive linemen. Yeah. But that's the story. The truth is, even though I love Herbert, I would rather have Dak than Herbert. So it would go Dart, Dak, Herbert. All right.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm kind of like waiting to press the experience. accelerator on Jackson Dart right now. I want to. But there are a lot. I mean, there's new offense, injured weapons, draft picks to be had,

a lot going on there. Last one here. When was the, but it's like, neighbors got hurt in week four. Jackson Dart started, week four was his first start. Oh yeah, you got hurt on his sideline throw. All the great things that Jackson Dart

did last year were without a number one wide receiver. Or turning, you could say, oh, he turned Wondale Robinson into a number one. Yeah, I mean, Dart was, Darry was okay. He wasn't great. Yeah, 17 a game. It was pretty good. Yeah, I mean, for a rookie without weapons, and you know he's going to run. He had the one devastating game in.

Seven for 13 for 33 years? Yeah, I remember that. In the semi-championship round, he, had a weak losing performance. Yeah, the zero points did it? Is that what it was? Yeah, but right before that was

22 and then championship week was 25. Those were playoffs. That's a season losing performance. Yeah, okay. Thank you. Four for four. Isn't that Scatz number? Isn't he 40? Oh, yeah, he is. He's 34. So stupid. Last one, Malik neighbors,

Trey McRide. Kenneth Walker. Oh, I recuse myself. These are mid-second round picks. Neighbors, Tramie McBride, Kenneth Walker, wide receiver, tight-in, running back. You know, it's hard when you just play key trade cut.

You're not considering anything other than these names to not want the positional advantage that Tray McBride's going to represent with Jacoby Brissette and what he was able to do last year. Neighbors, injury unknown, Ken Walker, the sky's dead. the limit. It's also, you know, I'm keeping

Tray McBride is my answer. I'm going to trade. Just the safe pick? Yeah, he's completely 100% safe. Trey McBride, nothing can go wrong from McBride. It could go wrong as he doesn't get the amount of receptions. He'll be fine. Like he'll still be he'll be a top three guy, but yeah, I mean, he will be 100%. Will he make a difference? Don't wait, it goes wrong as he's injured. I mean, he had 111 receptions two years ago.

He had 126 last year. I don't even want 26. If you give me 110 and you don't... If you give him 100... And you don't just score two times like you did two years ago. That's fair. He will be fine. McBride is the easy keep for me. I am 100% right there with you. Like I said, it's usually been

a Brock Bowers, Trey McBride, and then check out at the position. I feel like I'm trading Ken Walker's hype and then I'm just going to cut the injured dude. That feels bad. I am very curious. where these two guys, both neighbors and Walker, not compared to each other, but independently,

I'm so curious where they're going to be drafted at the draft. I think I would prefer to take Walker because I expect neighbors to get off to a slightly slower start due to coming off of the ACL injury. But yeah, I mean, maybe if the news is good and Neighbors is back on the field, he's going to have more hype than Walker and be, you know, a back of the first round pick,

which is so scary. neighbors won't make it to the first. Do you not see a world where Ken Walker is just like the running back 18 this year? Eight? Not 18. I would be surprised. Okay. Yeah, not 18.

Is this old, uh, old issues I got with this dude? It could be. Yeah, I mean, I don't, let's just get, you know, when you're, I'll get on the couch, let's deal with this. What is this? His fifth year. Is that right? I'll double-checked.

Four years on a rookie contract. Yeah, it was in a first round. Yep, it'll be year five. Um, when, when, when you're going into year five and you, have been basically disappointed by a player every single year, including this year where he was the Super Bowl champion, but for fantasy it was a disappointing year where he

finally was stayed healthy. I don't blame you for being like, ah, not this time. Not this time, Ken. Isn't it like, there's something ironic about a player that you've always had expectations for, who's always been deserving of the production and who for four consecutive years

has never given it to you, to the degree that, like, you're just putting it. He's never matched hope. Yeah, so, so then you've got a bunch of new hope on another team, but in the back of my mind, I'm going, well, like, what shoe drops to make this not work? Right. You're saying you have no idea what it's going to be, but it will happen. Something. Yeah. I'm going to bet on the money and that contract. If you look at when a running back gets a certain level of contract in the offseason, they tend to perform well. And the fact

that he's on Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid team, he doesn't have a lot of competition. Obviously he can get injured. We know that for sure. For sure. Oh, gosh. All running backs can. I would say the, if you go, just, you know,

what we're playing this game, you keep Kenneth Walker. If Kenneth Walker has a great week one, everyone believes. Like, the way that fantasy football works, with all of this, it's going to be months and months of discussing in talking about Kenneth Walker. Yeah.

If Walker goes, out week one, has 80 on the ground, has a couple catches and a score. Everyone will push every chip in. And then he will be are you saying trade him? Well, I'm saying you could, but like you could set them. You're saying Andy could. Because he's trying to get out. I can't

trade. I can't trade Walker ever. It is all of Walker's storyline and then it is all of Chiefs running back potential storylines and both have never matched up. other than Kareem Hunt who... It's definitely matched up.

It just hasn't for a while. Well, after Kareem Hunt, we've been begging for it. Yes. That's all I'm saying. Like, Kareem Hunt started the storyline for it. Like, Kareem Hunt was the first... I would say Jamal Charles started it.

Yeah. Okay. Shady. Well, ever since Cream Hunt departed, we've been waiting for the next cream hunt. Correct. And Clyde Edwards a layer. And then, you know, Isaiah Pacheco was mixed in there.

But we also had other guys that were added to the raw. We had the, I think Darwin Thompson's. We had the Bershad Smith. Damian Williams had a flash. I think the truth is, if you look at the actual talent that they have had since Cream Hunt, it hasn't been good. Like Isaiah Pacheco, we had high hopes for it. He was a seventh round pick that was like, Damien William, we've had flashes, but Clyde Edwards, Clyde Edwards-Aler, they thought that they were drafting that dude, but turns out he's not that good. He's just really not that good. It wasn't the team letting him down. It was him just not being that good.

if someone is actually talented, an above average top 10 type of talent. They have a strong line. I think they will get a lot out of the position. I'm going to work on this. Yeah. I'm going to do my best. It's going to take some time. And Biena is back.

I think that really matters. Okay. Is it more important that he's back or that Nagy's gone? Ooh. Addition by subtraction. He's more important that Andy Reid's still there. I think there, I think it's a, is perfectly balanced.

It's the knife. Yes. Yeah. It's the Thanos knife. Everything in balance. Next week we're going to get into our top 15 running backs and our top 15 wide receivers on the show, so that'll be a fun one.

Anything, any parting words, guys? Anything else you have to add to that? I'm excited to talk through the running backs of wide receivers next week. All right. If you want to jump into the Dynasty Pass and the Ultimate Draft Kit, no better time than now. You can get it out a pre-order discounted. draft kit.com or become an ultimate foot clan member at join the foot.com.

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