Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Midseason Review + Trade Targets, Hungry for More - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/1
Episode Date: November 1, 2023Rest of season outlooks! On today’s fantasy football podcast, Andy, Mike, and Jason review the top players at each position so far! Who will be a second-half difference maker for fantasy football te...ams?! Plus, a new “Hungry For More” segment, NFL News, and Thursday Night Football preview! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for November 1st, 2023. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Hungry for More presented by Uber Eats. Visit https://www.ubereats.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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So you're in on November 1st Christmas?
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November 1st, welcome in, the fantasy footballers.
It's Merry Christmas to the Raider fans today.
Oh, that's true.
You got three presents under the tree.
Or maybe three lumps of coal for those three gentlemen.
Josh McDaniels, sayonara.
Their offensive coordinator, Lombardi, gone.
You need a general manager.
There's one available.
The Raiders have fired theirs.
And Devontae Adams has been named interim head coach, GM, play caller.
This is great.
This is great news.
It's outstanding.
Is it?
Outstanding.
You think, like, from the point of view of, like,
these people should not have been in charge
of an NFL franchise, that part is great that Raiders fans get to move on.
These should not have been the people running your team,
but your owner has now been doing this for a very long time.
Do you actually have confidence that that davis is gonna make a
good decision oh no no no no no no okay not at all all right no this is not a confidence in this
is this is removing the cancer yeah it's like uh you're in a situation where you were 31st in yards
per game and 31st in points per game it might might not get better, but it can't really get worse.
It definitely can't.
No, no, no, it can't.
No, I mean, Devontae Adams this last week had one catch for 11 yards.
This is such good.
Look, I have Josh Jacobs and Adams everywhere.
I'm thrilled.
That tells you where I'm at.
Okay.
I am so excited.
They're moving Aiden O'Connell to the quarterback position.
He is a gunslinger he's
gonna make tons of mistakes start all your defenses against them but he's going to he's just
young enough to completely listen to anything Devante Adams tells him to do this is great news
let's see I'm fun because he played so in week four Aiden O'Connell was the quarterback, and Adams had 13 targets, was eight for 75.
So, I mean, that's acceptable.
And your offensive coordinator has been swapped out.
You literally had Josh Jacobs just saying, like, I can't do anything.
I'm not the one who decides what to do on offense.
To me, it is some hope, not for the team but for fantasy
the team has had no hope for 20 years
going down the drain
but yeah
this is very very good news
and O'Connell
I think he can get it done
at least for fantasy purposes
and that's all we're caring about here
I definitely believe this is an upgrade
I am excited about that.
We've got a lot of news to talk about, but first.
Welcome to Hungry for More, presented by Uber Eats.
Well, we have our Hungry for More candidates this week.
I'm going with Gus Edwards running back for the Baltimore Ravens.
It's been a difficult world for the running back room in Baltimore for multiple years dealing with the Lev Bells and Devonta Freemans
and Latavius Murray,. And what was it?
Latavious Murray,
right?
He was,
he was part of Baltimore.
Probably Drake London or not.
Drake,
Kenyan Drake,
Kenyan Drake is in and out of that roster.
JK Dobbins injuries for multiple years.
I think you finally have a little bit of confidence and clarity like justice
Hills involvement and opportunities are not that high.
Gus Edwards, three touchdowns last week.
He's got 13 red zone carries in the last three weeks.
It's one of those, the doubts that you have with the rushing quarterback
is that they're going to get those opportunities.
You know, you guys brought up yesterday, Lamar had a bad week
because they had three rushing touchdowns.
Like that's not a given for a rushing quarterback that they're going to hand the ball off in the red zone
but they've been doing it and um you know they play Seattle then they play Cleveland
they play Cincinnati at home Gus Edwards I think you're going to get 15 plus opportunities here on
out I'm hungry for more of that sweet Gus bus um my hungry for more player is scary.
Terry, Terry McLaurin.
He has been heating up two weeks in a row.
He's a top 20 wide receiver.
The last three weeks, he has a 26% target share.
And my favorite part about what happened at the trade deadline is that the Washington
commanders said, Hey, let's go crazy. Let's just, let's trade away our really good defensive line and make sure that
we can't win games, but we're going to be in a lot of shootouts. And I think Sam Howell will be
throwing the ball nonstop. I mean, right now, Washington ranks number two in pass rate over expectation.
Their defense is going to be worse. And if Terry McLaurin is kind of establishing himself
as he should, as that 26% target share, the pie is growing. His opportunity is there. His talent
is there. I'm really excited to see what he can do in an offense
that has to play catch-up to a bad defense.
I think by implication, you could toss a hungry for more Sam Howell,
hungry for more John Dotson, hungry for more Logan Thomas,
and even a player I picked up on waivers, Jamison Crowder,
who had a 20-point fantasy week, who Curtis Hamill's foot is hurt.
So monitor that.
Seven targets.
I think you're right.
I think the Commander's defense is going to be one to target if you have an
offensive player on the other side, but then that means Sam Howe can live
fun and fancy free.
I'll jump in, and I am hungry for more bananas.
Give me Will Levis.
I couldn't believe this was the name you had in this segment.
Why am I hungry for more Will Levis?
Because of Derek Henry.
It has nothing to do with Will Levis.
You're saying Will Levis provides a path for Hopkins and Henry?
That is the hope.
Much like the Raiders, we have some hope moving forward for the offense.
Maybe things can be fixed.
Maybe things can be fixed for the Tennessee Titans
because they were broken with Ryan Tannehill as the quarterback.
And this team, I think, even when Tannehill is healthy,
assuming Levis doesn't fall on his face in the next few weeks,
they're going to find out if he is the guy.
And we will all find out if he's the guy.
We got Derrick Henry's best.
Let me confirm it, but I'm pretty sure it was Derrick Henry's best snap share
of the year because they were actually winning.
So second best.
But we had 22 carries.
We hadn't seen over 13 carries in a few weeks. So it was just, it was great to see a positive
game script. Now, can he actually be that guy? We will find out. He completed only 36% of his
passes when he was under pressure. So teams will figure that out, and they will start putting pressure onto him.
But it's nice to see a path where a defense actually has to be worried
that Will Levis is going to go deep.
I think I just got word.
T.G. Watt is, quote, hungry for Will Levis.
Yeah.
Oh, I believe it.
So we're going to – look, Thursday night, right?
Yeah, this matchup is so interesting to me
because it's two great head coaches with two bad teams that still win games.
That's fair, and the secondary for Pittsburgh is bad,
but the pass rush with T.J. Watt is good.
So we'll see it on display right away.
Yep.
And I get it. Watt is good. So we'll see it on display right away. Yep. And I get it.
I'd be, you know, Hopkins seemed maybe dead when Tannehill went down.
Yeah.
Because you thought you were getting Will Levis and then, you know,
Malik Willis and some combination of ineptitude,
and that was not what we got from Will Levis.
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are you guys uh are you oj drinkers i love some absolute no pulp orange juice
but are do you order like do you get it on the regular?
Well, if I go out to a breakfast restaurant, yeah.
What about at the house?
I have it at the house in the fridge right now.
I guess I'm just an OJ drinker.
I drink it at home.
I drink it at restaurants.
What's in your mug right now?
Oh, my gosh.
I have orange juice.
No, this is.
I just feel like we forget to get it.
And it's delicious.
But I feel like I had a lot as a kid, and I don't have a lot of orange juice.
It's very, very good.
It's filled with sugar, though.
Yeah, it's a ton of sugar.
And, like, old man stomach over here.
Like, right in the morning, let's just put, like, the highest pH of acid we can put right in the tummy.
Can I say something about my father?
He's the proverbial iron stomach and does not care.
He's 70 years old now or about to be.
He will regularly get up in the middle of the night.
I'm talking like 1, 2 in the morning.
He wakes up.
Just with his whistle?
He will go out into the kitchen and he will fill up a tall glass of orange juice,
and he will house it in the middle of the night and just go back to bed.
Because he's like, you know what I need right now?
Reflux.
Acid.
I don't know how he does it.
Does he sleep standing up?
I mean, when he tells me this, I'm i'm like about to be 40 i'm like i could
not touch oj at night and my dad is just putting down a whole glass just as a casual midnight glass
of oj what a beast i know i know it's crazy all right into the news we go we talked about the
raiders firing everyone uh the interim head coach will be Antonio Pierce
who was a former Giants linebacker and uh I don't have the name in front of me of their
interim offensive coordinator uh is that yeah is that it sound like herba tree herba something
give me give me the name over there we got three producers that can quickly look this name up. Just scream it when you find it, okay?
But they've been terrible.
I mean, Bo Hardegree.
It's not Herb.
It's Hardegree.
There you go.
Samsonite.
The quarterback coach.
Aiden O'Connell expected to start.
I look at Aiden O'Connell as the best option for that team,
willing to throw the football downfield, look great in the the preseason Mike just brought up the numbers for Adams they were uh
but also in that week for Jacoby terrible yeah I mean that's that's the big that that's my concern
is like it was watching um watching Jimmy play this week he's know, he had a really bad injury, like a, we think that something might be
catastrophically wrong. I believe he went to the hospital after the injury. And then we, when we
got the message, it was no, thankfully it's not nearly as bad as it could have been. But like we
had a couple of games where Jimmy was, you know, supporting both Adams and Jacoby Myers. Aiden O'Connell, it might be fine and dandy for Devontae Adams,
but I can't imagine that if you have both him and Jacoby
on a weekly basis going to have a good output.
Yeah, I would have a lot less confidence in Jacoby Myers.
Yeah, that sucks because Jacoby was balling out um adams
will be the the squeakiest of wheels yeah also as a reminder that that was the chargers game where
uh o'connell played is that right yeah uh josh jacobs 11 targets okay we like that
that yes baby yeah we like that makes sense makes sense. I just dealt him. Oh, that was dumb.
Yeah.
Jason, or sorry, Mike, I'm going to give you the floor here.
Falcons head coach Arthur Smith names Taylor Heineke starting quarterback for week nine.
What?
That's, are we sure about this?
Because I've been, I was just grinding Desmond Ritter tape.
I pulled myself out of the toxic groupthink.
And I was watching.
I'm like, this is the guy.
This is the guy for the Atlanta Falcons.
And Arthur Smith, I don't know.
He has fallen victim to the groupthink.
He is a sheep now.
What's the opposite of toxic?
Maybe it's just like accurate groupthink of toxic maybe it's just like and
accurate group think what if it's just like anti-venom antidote i mean what if it's just
like consensus group think is correct right about maybe it's eyeballs yeah the the point being toxic
vision like that is the i mean he will ar Arthur Smith... It was a week later, man.
He will not acknowledge this at all,
but this is the ultimate eat crow one week later.
I mean, come on.
This guy sucks.
This guy...
The NFL needed a villain, and Arthur Smith said,
I got it.
He stole my beer.
I'll play the heel. Yeah, so Taylor Heineke, I got it. He stole my beer. I'll play the heel.
Yeah, so Taylor Heineke, I mean, this is potentially positive news
for the passing game because much like Sam Howell
or some of these quarterbacks that are willing to drive the ball down the field.
Taylor will rip it.
He will rip it.
And so your first reaction is, hey, Drake London.
Kyle Pitts.
Drake London, you're going to have a chance.
And then, ah, he's got a groin injury.
Drake London is banged up.
So, yeah, Kyle Pitts or Johnny Smith.
It's possible.
You know, if Drake London sits, is it Matt Collins?
Is it Van Jefferson?
It's no one for your team.
Josh Dobbs, Arizona Cardinal starting quarterback traded yeah you were saying you smelled some funny business going on
and then and then the next thing you know Josh Dobbs was traded away um it makes complete sense
for all parties involved heads to the Vikings and, I mean, for what it's worth,
now I agree with you that Kyler's going to start.
Yeah.
There was just something weird about the order of operations.
You're saying next week, not this week. Next week, although I do think this week is a slim possibility.
Sure.
I'll leave the door open, but I believe by next week.
It's still funny business to me for a coach to come out and it was,
Kyler will not be playing.
We're going to, you know, we'll figure out who it's going to be.
And then it was, no, I've reviewed the tape.
Yeah, that was weird.
Oh, you have to lie sometimes.
You can't be like, we're in the midst of trade trend.
But you don't have to say anything.
Yeah.
Like there's no practice going on.
Okay, you're saying because he just added more words.
Yeah.
He didn't need to be like.
He got caught in the lie where it's like i just have to start throwing out details but not only that but
his lie was to throw the guy under the bus yeah like you know i don't think he's not gonna be
our starter are you trading him no he's just really bad yeah i mean maybe uh maybe that wasn't
the best way to go about it vikings trade for Josh Dobbs. I don't know.
Here's where I am with Josh Dobbs and the Vikings.
First, Jaron Hall is starting this week.
It won't be Dobbs.
Now, Dobbs will – this will be the third offense he learns
in less than a calendar year.
I mean, he came straight into Tennessee and started.
He makes such a good impression on these franchises.
He goes to Arizona and he starts immediately.
I mean, this is a late trade for Josh Dobbs. makes such a good impression on these franchises he goes to arizona he starts immediately i mean
this is a late trade for for yes josh jobs i am i am concerned for jefferson and addison still
josh jobs is very competent but it didn't translate into like consistent value for
hollywood brown correct what it did was it translated into the third most targets
to the tight end position.
So if I had TJ Hawkinson, I would be breathing somewhat of a sigh of relief
in that I have somebody competent to move first downs.
He can scramble for first downs.
The ball's going to move down the field.
That is going to be better for Addison and Jefferson
just in that respect of Jaron Hall, the rookie,
is not going to be as good as Josh Dobbs.
But Hawkinson, I'm a little bit more, you know, at ease.
The other two guys, it's still going to be some up and down.
Yeah, I think it'll be a little bit of up and down.
But Dobbs, while Dobbs, you know,
obviously went one and seven with the Arizona Cardinals,
there's very little talent around him,
especially once they lost James Conner.
Hollywood is good, but they just didn't have a lot of pieces.
There's a lot more competent, quality players for the Vikings.
Their defense is better, too, that's going to help the offense as well.
What this shows me is that the Vikings are still absolutely in it to win it.
They're not losing Kirk Cousins and saying, like, okay, well, we got to look for the future
and maybe it'll be better to get a draft pick.
They're trying to make moves.
They're trying to win.
I believe they are in the playoffs right now if the playoffs started today.
That is pretty crazy.
Their schedule coming up is very winnable.
And Dobbs can pick up this playbook very, very comes from the same system super smart guy he's an actual rocket scientist
um with an uh aerospace engineering degree so it is going to be an adjustment yeah yeah yeah
he averaged 196 yards a game in ari Cousins was about 300. Oh, man.
And so in that regard, you're going to have more balance.
You're not going to probably have them passing to the same top two, I think,
top three pass to run situation.
Over expectation.
Yeah, but, I mean, it is better than what you had.
Now, there were rumors about Jameis Winston.
I would have been more excited about Jameis Winston with those wideouts.
But it was a good move for the team.
And like you said, that means that they're competing,
which means Jefferson wants to come back.
But there is not an existing rapport.
You know, Cousins was really building something with Addison.
And that part is a bummer for me.
Jonathan Gannon, speaking to earlier, said earlier said you know week nine starting quarterback is
not fully decided so it could still be kyler this week the lions acquired donovan people's jones
from the browns for a uh for dpj had dropped out of favor with the coaching staff in cleveland
certainly and so what's your read on this because this like? Because he's a competent deep threat for a team,
and the quotes on Jamison Williams have not been favorable.
Not that they're out on him, but it's more of a, look, the guy's just not.
He's not where we need him to be.
He's not ready yet, which is, I mean, that's kind of unfortunate.
How do you not get ready yet?
It's year two. Yeah, I get it. But, I mean, that's kind of unfortunate. How do you not get ready yet? It's year two.
Yeah, I get it.
But, I mean, it's definitely a red flag.
But does that, does Peoples Jones going to the Lions change
how you think of their wide receiving room?
Not really.
I think that this is a replacement for Marvin Jones.
Really, 100%, when I saw this move, it says to me that they just do not trust
Jamison Williams to be
able to step up to being
an every down wide receiver.
They just don't. They don't think
it's going to happen, and so
that's how I read it.
Yeah, I'm not as pronounced in the...
I just think it was a product of opportunity
to pick up some depth when you lost Marvin
Jones, but make no mistake, Jamison Williams has been awful. I just think it was a product of opportunity to pick up some depth when you lost Marvin Jones.
But, I mean, make no mistake, Jamison Williams has been awful.
He's been absolutely terrible.
PFF grades aren't everything, but Kyle just pulled this up.
Among 106 wide receivers with 15 or more targets,
Jamison ranks 106th in PFF wide receiver grades.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, if you're a playoff team,
you have to add depth at this position when you've dealt with injury too.
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Quick break.
And we'll be back with the Thursday night preview. All right, we are going to jump in.
We're going to get a Thursday night matchup
that is slightly more interesting than what it looked like a week ago.
Thursday Night Breakdown
Will Levis and the Tennessee Titans at 3-4
take on the 4-3 Pittsburgh Steelers
The DraftKings Sportsbook line
Pittsburgh minus 2.5, the over-under is 36.5
I do have Pittsburgh in this game
So we've got Mike Vrabel 36 and a half. I do have Pittsburgh in this game.
So we've got Mike Vrabel.
0.573 career winning percentage.
It's been great.
They're still alive, 3-4 with the win.
Didn't make a trade, right?
Didn't get rid of Derek Henry.
Yeah, trade deadline was, I mean, it usually is, but it was.
We got spoiled with the McCaffrey trade.
Yeah.
Mike Tomlin, he's up over 63% career winning percentage. Still the seventh seed right now with Kenny Pickett.
And then we got another Mike.
We got Mike Wright, currently the most points scored in League of Record.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for highlighting that.
Is that true?
It is true.
By like two points.
Really?
That's a shame.
I agree.
When I saw that, I was very disappointed.
My team has quietly been the highest scoring team in the league.
Quietly.
Yeah.
Now loudly.
All right.
I said it pretty quiet.
Will Levis, we talked about him.
I am not.
I mean, these start sick questions on the website for Will Levis.
Oh, no.
I mean. No.
I'm not doing it.
I'm not playing Will Levis on Thursday Night Football against Mike Tomlin.
I'm not going to do that.
Now, it doesn't mean he can't have a good game.
This is a really, really weak secondary, like really weak.
Yeah.
But you've also got the one week of film, and we've seen this before.
You know, a quarterback comes in their first week.
No one knows what to expect.
I'm certain that they didn't expect Will Levis to throw deep the amount
that he did.
You brought up the numbers, his completion percentage with pressure.
They're going to have some looks for Will Levis in this game that he hasn't seen before.
So my confidence to play him, no.
I will watch him.
I will be excited if we can get ourselves a banana-rama drop on the show at some point.
Does he have to earn that is this like a
multiple week thing yes because you can't go from us insulting you with the name banana rama
and then what you have one good game and now we're celebrating you are we insulting him are we yes we
were yeah yeah i mean because he ate the banana with the peel on it. Yeah. And he also drank his coffee with the mayonnaise.
Yeah.
And also, he couldn't see pressure.
Yes.
There was that on his college tape.
And I think that's why his 36% completion rate when pressured.
He's like, what?
How'd you get here?
So this will be really really interesting I can definitely see a broken play down the field
creating a lot of success here you have two really smart coaches that are going to game plan well for
each other um it seems like Kenny Pickett I mean Kenny Pickett said I am 100 absolutely playing
he has the rib injury so man the only thing worse than Kenny Pickett
an injured Kenny Pickett a rib hurt I mean Herbert last year played through a rib injury
and he just was not himself he was not very good I don't want to watch a Kenny Pickett that's just
not himself please give me all of Kenny Pickett when I have to watch Kenny Pickett games.
Yeah, and it's just not a lot to go around with Kenny Pickett.
It's not a lot to go around.
It is going towards Deontay Johnson first.
He is the primary receiver.
Yeah, he jumped up to 91% of the snaps, so he was a full-time player.
And that turned into 14 targets, 8 for 85.
Yeah, and you're not going to be able to run on the Titans very well,
especially when Najee is your running back.
So, yeah, I'm fine playing Deontay Johnson,
even with a somewhat broken Kenny Pickett and George Pickens. I mean, I feel like
you've got to, you've got to keep playing him because he's just got the big play options and
opportunities last week. It didn't work out one catch, one catch for 22 yards. But prior to that,
he had two monstrous, monstrous games in a row and this is where you
beat the titans is in the passing game both both of these teams really you know the wide receivers
are in play i would play hopkins and i would play deontay johnson for sure and then i probably play
pickens the one catch was a touchdown yeah it was an impressive play that was the one where he jumped
over the two guys it's classic
pickens the he i'm with you jay that if i have george pickens more than likely i'm gonna start
him but i i hate when i'm doing that with a player and i but i'm also going i don't it will
not surprise me if he has a bad game because Because the good games that he had, it was no Deontay Johnson.
Except for week seven, but that was Deontay Johnson was still only 66% of the snaps.
He was still a part-time player.
We haven't seen a full-time Deontay, full-time George Pickens,
both do something together.
I'm with Jay.
I'd play him.
I mean, Pickens or Dotson, Mike?
Ooh. That's a good one. what is the dotson matchup i don't remember off the top of my head himself new england
it's really against howell and the offensive coordinator it's new england in new england um
wow that is i guess i'm playing Pickens.
That's a tough question.
The Pickens thing is you're casting your vote with a player that will be on the field every play.
Yeah, but a hurt Kenny Pickens.
No, I'm changing.
I'm going Dodson.
Okay.
Najee, Jalen Warren.
We have to talk about them because they play running back for this team. Yeah, I would be very much looking to bench both of these players.
Certainly Najee.
Najee last week had seven rushing attempts for 13 yards.
This is not a good matchup.
Najee is on pace for 200 rushing attempts for 760 yards and two touchdowns.
That's not good.
And if his name wasn't Najee Harris.
And if you didn't draft him in the third round or wherever he went,
you'd feel pot committed to him.
Damian Parrish or Najee Harris, rest of season.
Rest of season.
Najee.
I will go Pierce.
That's where I lean.
Henry and Spears on the other side.
You mentioned the snap count.
They were in the lead.
Tajay Spears had just 44% of snaps.
That was the second lowest of the season.
Three rush attempts, three receptions.
Any consideration of flex on a bye week situation for Taj tajay spears no i don't i don't think so this this is a game that i expect the titans to be in you know that i in the games where the
titans are getting blown out i think you're going to see more tajay spears more of him running routes
more you know catch-up mode, less Derrick Henry.
This is the type of game where it's going to be a close game
because neither team can go out and put 30 points up.
Spears or Devin Singletary against Tampa Bay?
Singletary.
Yep.
Spears or Zeke versus Washington?
Zeke.
Zeke.
All right.
There you go.
So Spears is a very low-level option.
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Into the midseason review we go.
We're going to take a little look.
Top players at each position after eight weeks of football.
Whether we think players will hang around or not.
But your top ten quarterbacks right now is fun.
Josh Allen is at number one.
This is all in points per game.
Minimum five games played in four point per passing touchdown leagues.
Josh Allen, number one.
Jalen Hurts at number two.
Justin Herbert, number three.
Lamar at number four.
Patrick Mahomes at five.
Tua at six.
Kirk Cousins at seven.
Pour one out.
Sam Howell at eight. Justin Fields still sitting there at nine. And Jared Goins at seven. Pour one out. Sam Howell at eight.
Justin Fields still sitting there at nine.
And Jared Goff at ten.
So, you know, it's interesting that Mahomes is still in the mix there.
He's only got two finishes inside the top five.
He had eight of those last year.
There's also only three quarterbacks averaging more than 20 per game.
That is Allen, Hertz, and Herbert.
Who's the most likely to fall out of that top 10 for you?
The most likely to fall out of the top 10 is definitely Kirk Cousins.
Well, this is points per game, though.
No, I guess some people would have to pass him.
I mean, Sam Howell is the most surprising to be here.
I do think that with
their defense being bad and with his tendency to turn the ball over, I mean, that's really good
for fantasy. You know, it harkens back to the Jameis Winston days where me and a good pick six
to start a game just means, you know, you're going to have a great fantasy output. You're
putting yourself in position to keep throwing the ball, but he would be the clear player that is the most surprising
up there that I think would fall away by the end of the season the the most interesting guy to have
a conversation about of this list to me uh I'll just so like quarterbacks Alan Hurts Herbert Jackson
Mahomes and two I think that those six are like plug and play.
I'll grimace if I see a bad matchup for Tua, but I'm still going to play him.
But where are we with Jared Goff?
Because it's like this past week against Vegas, he played really well.
I mean, he completed 70% of his passes, had 270 yards,
but he didn't get the touchdowns.
And it was the Jameer Gibbs show.
What is your confidence level with Jared Goff,
who is either outside of the top 14 or he's inside the top six?
That's kind of been his MO.
And it was a home game.
We were set up against the Raiders, but we didn't get it.
Well, I completely agree
with you with your assessment of the quarterbacks.
I think the top six, Allen Hurts,
Herbert Jackson, Mahomes, and Tua,
I think those
are locks, like into your lineup.
And I think everybody
else behind that, it's up
for grabs in the second half, and I would put
Dak at
seven for the rest of the season
based on the schedule and the team
and the weapons. So there's not a
quarterback I would want more than
Dak if it's not those top
six. And I would say
Kyler is going to enter the conversation
soon. Yeah, Kyler
is... As will Joseph, by the way.
Yeah, Joe Burrow. Yeah, joe burrow would you rather have
burrow rest of season than doc i did forget burrow i would i would rather have burrow so i did maybe
burrow's locked in at seven then yeah burrow i think would be seven and then the the the next
three you're talking about dat kyler and justin fields to me um the The health of Justin Fields is obviously a question.
So if you're just taking him right now, he's not starting,
so that's not going to help you.
But Kyler and Justin Fields, I think, are going to be people that,
at the end of this year, are going to be extremely important fantasy quarterbacks.
Like, you know, you're going to want to have them for the playoff run.
Running backs right now, looking at – I'm throwing that out of there.
What?
Top 15 running backs, minimum four games played.
Is this a way to jackknife Devon A. Chan into here?
I hate that.
That's terrible.
I'm leaving him off.
Number one is Christian McCaffrey at 23.
Number two is Kamara at 18.9.
Three is Travis Etienne at 18.8.
Four is Mostert.
Five is Kyron Williams, who is on IR right now.
Zach Moss is six.
Montgomery is seven. Kenneth Walker is eight Moss is 6. Montgomery is 7.
Kenneth Walker is 8. And Saquon
is 9. Eckler is just outside
that group right now.
But last game was nice to see, at least in the
passing game. Henry's outside that. Gibbs,
Swift, and Brees Hall.
If there's a name in that bunch bunch most likely to drop out in the
second half of the season or a couple of names, who are you paying attention to?
You know, I would say that Zach Moss obviously is going to take a massive hit.
Have we seen any update on the Jonathan Taylor ankle injury?
I was hoping you would start talking because I was on Twitter trying to see if there was anything else so there wasn't much
being said about Jonathan Taylor's ankle injury in fact they they were asked the question and
they basically said there wasn't an issue but liar liar pants fire. Jonathan Taylor had this game where he was dominating in the first half,
had a 60-yard run, looked like the super athlete that he is.
Yeah, he looked great.
Then he comes up hobbled, is kind of hobbling around,
jumping on one leg a little bit, and gets one carry in the second half.
Like, obviously something happened there um did you see
the comments though i know that's i'm i have not what what did they say uh he was asked about that
play he said he even was shown the replay he said he was fine not injured doing toe raises yeah but so i mean he did toe raises and then in this in uh the third quarter
he got a carry up the middle for one yard and then the next time you see him getting a touch is in
the fourth quarter a catch for two yards i i understand the way it looks anecdotal you know
from a perception standpoint but it is not odd that they had equal carry counts in that game.
It was the way it came about, though.
It was all Jonathan Taylor, and then it was no Jonathan Taylor.
It just seems fishy to me.
Yeah, it could be nothing, but I agree.
It smells funny.
Would you expect Zach Moss to continue getting equal touches?
Yeah.
The rest of season?
Close to it, yeah.
I mean, that's kind of what we said three weeks ago.
55-45 was, I think, the number I threw out there.
I think it's going to be really close between them.
I mean, Zach Moss has proven himself, in my opinion.
The team has given him the opportunity,
and all he does is go out and chunk off plays.
He had a 41-yard run last week.
Great matchup this week against the Carolina Panthers.
I tried to trade for him.
Really?
Yeah, because I feel like he could be had for the cheap.
And you're in all these bye weeks.
I've got the double bye coming up for a couple running backs.
I was like, oh, maybe I just throw Moss in there
and get 10 to 15 carries, maybe a touchdown.
I mean, look, it's dirty, but it's working.
Etienne is the player that I think is going to drop.
Yeah, because he can't score two touchdowns every week
for the rest of the season.
Yeah, I think he's going to be super solid.
It's not a sell on the talent.
It's just literally regression. He's been a sell on the talent. It's just literally, you know, regression.
Like, you can't be – he's been a top five running back
four consecutive weeks.
He scored seven touchdowns in four weeks.
If he goes – you know, he's a superstar.
Man, 30 opportunities.
It's unbelievable how they –
Maybe that's false.
Maybe I'm lying.
I can't believe that they spent day two capital on Tank Bigsby
who looked phenomenal in preseason who's a very good he's worthy of a day two draft pick and then
they are just I mean he played 89 percent of the snaps 88 percent of the snaps a week before for a
running back not named Christian McCaffrey that is that is insane especially for a
guy who's you know dealt with some injuries so Travis Etienne is is absolutely a full-time
workhorse bell cow type of fantasy asset but you you still cannot possibly think well yeah he's
gonna he's gonna be on pace for 34 touchdowns this year. That's unsustainable.
It looked like a bad week was brewing last week for ETN.
It was 3.3 a carry and wasn't moving the football, and then bam.
Had that big –
Monstrous touchdown.
Yeah, the receiving touchdown was great.
Where – I think the most interesting name here for me is Devon Achan that's what people
I know you took him off being the number one points per game minimum four games played but
where should he where do you think he will slot in when we were watching him we can't forget like
yeah every single play when he touched the ball was like, wow, he just looks so good when he was on.
But obviously, Jeff Wilson is back.
You've got Salvin Ahmed is back.
And where would you put him in this list?
I am probably the least bullish for A-Chan as an end-of-season league winner,
and this is coming from someone who just kind of paid attention
to what Tua and Mostert have on the schedule.
When you talk about defensive lines they're going to face,
Philly, Kansas City, the Jets twice, Tennessee, who stops the run,
Dallas, Baltimore, Buffalo.
Those are all on the docket.
So, look, you will be happy when A-Chan rips a long one.
Nice.
That didn't sound right, that's all.
It just sounded weird.
Sounded like some Chipotle.
But, you know, he's got three big games. It's it's three like this is why I took him off the
list is because you have eight games played and he had three yeah and so it's not that I'm not
discrediting him but but I mean like one of those games he had eight carries he had five touchdowns
in three games if he let's be realistic here I think he's a 10 to 15 is where I would have him at running back.
Genuinely.
You have three guys to use there.
You have a tough schedule.
And he is coming off a knee injury.
I know they've said as soon as the window opens up, he's going to be back.
It's still an injury to the device that moves you forward.
You're saying it could hold him back in terms of ripping a long one. an injury to the device that moves you forward. So, you can have
some concerns. You're saying it could hold him back in terms
of ripping a long one.
Yeah. Got it. That's what I'm saying.
Jason, what's
your opinion? Where would you slot him in?
I said 10-15.
I honestly think 10-15
is
appropriate.
He can't possibly score touchdowns on the same pace. We said that about Travis Etienne.
It's just as true with A-Chan. He was scoring touchdowns like crazy. That being said, his speed
and this scheme is a true, you know, it's kind of like you can't stop Tyree Kill you just can't the other players on the NFL
field are not as fast and if you can get A-Chan into a position to be in a foot race with the
other guys they can't catch him it's impossible because he is faster than them and so with what
we've seen with Mike McDaniel you go I think he's going to be able to figure out a way to get him two or three
massive plays per game, but he is not, um, he's not ever going to be, uh, a 70% snap count type
of player. He's a smaller back who won't have enough work to be reliable. And I think his floors
will be really low. We didn't see it once he he got the job, he was awesome, awesome, awesome, got injured.
We will see low floors ahead.
Would you rather have Gibbs or A-Chan?
Yeah, I was going to start to throw some of those out there.
I would rather have A-Chan.
Than Gibbs?
Yeah.
I am not quite as bullish on the belief that Montgomery does not.
I think when Montgomery is back, they're going to go right back to what they were.
So A-chan or Montgomery?
Montgomery.
Okay.
Most are A-chan.
That's really interesting.
I lean.
Oh, my goodness.
I'm going to go A-chan.
I'm going to go with the...
The guy who's hurt?
Yeah, the youthful exuberance.
There's no way Mostert can do this the whole season, right?
And stay healthy.
He just hasn't done it.
There's evidence that A-chan can't stay healthy.
Yeah, no, I get it.
Two injuries for him so far.
Would you rather have Mostert than A-chan?
I don't know, man.
I feel like you just say one of them and the other is going to be the better one.
That would be a tough situation.
I would dread having both and decide to start one.
Unlike ETN, who's going to have 25 opportunities, 30 opportunities on the games he doesn't score a touchdown,
8chan's probably going to have 8 to 12 on those games.
You have more risk, and you have weak winning capabilities.
I guess most of you get an extra game in that situation, right?
Because before the bye, I guess I leaned that direction.
But, you know, the Ky williams he was on fire but
that's another running back that's a bit of a problem because your quarterback situation is
unknown your team is is heading in the wrong direction so can kyron williams come in and
dominate when you don't have to worry about puka and Cooper as much because Stafford's not back there I don't know yeah it's it's Saquon is probably a target tough sledding Saquon should
have a good rest of season the the player that I think I'm most excited about for the rest of
season is Brees Hall because Brees Hall last year looked like a sensational top three running back superstar talent.
This year.
I hate you.
Why do you hate me?
Because you stole him from me.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did, baby.
Yes, I did.
I tried to get him in League of Record, and you ended up.
You sacrificed Justin Jefferson.
Justin Jefferson's future in a keeper league.
It still feels bad.
I told you I regret the trade.
It's crazy because it's literally the only way Justin Jefferson has been traded in our league of record.
I traded him a couple years ago because I had a major injury, and it was like, I have to fix it.
Yeah.
And you play for this year, and then you've gotten to enjoy the benefits of Jefferson for two years
and now you did the same thing yeah so uh hopefully it works out but I do think Brees Hall I mean he
he's up to 65 percent of the snaps the last couple weeks Dalvin Cook is irrelevant um and and the
schedule is pretty nice there's's plenty of good games ahead.
You've got Houston.
You've got two against Miami.
You've got the Chargers.
You've got Atlanta.
The Washington Commanders without their defensive line now all on the docket ahead,
and it just looks like he's healthy.
And you would expect him to have a better second half of the
year than the first half of the year that was the expectation coming in and he's had a pretty
darn good first half of the year which of these five running backs most likely to break into the
top 15 in points per game Pollard Jacobs Bijanon, and Brian Robinson. I will go Josh Jacobs there.
I know that the offense has been putrid,
but if you look at that list of players,
there's only one who is a, you know,
every down workhorse, gets the targets, 90% of snaps.
I mean, how many people play 90% of snaps
at the running back position in the entire NFL? in my mind it's it's saquon saquon christian mccaffrey etn and jacobs i don't know if i'm
missing someone off the off the dome but i mean that that's a that's like a real superpower when
you're just talking about opportunity opportunity is king and those guys get just the lion's share of opportunity.
Yeah, yeah.
I get that.
The explosiveness, you don't get it like you would with Bijon right now
with Jacobs.
I wonder what happens to all of their talented players this offseason the raiders
yeah i mean well jacobs will be gone you think jacobs gets a like premier job no i think he'll
get a uh a good like a sanders like a yeah i was gonna say david montgomery miles sanders Like a Sanders-esque? Yeah, I was going to say David Montgomery, Miles Sanders, something like that.
He'll go to a middling to bad team for a three-year mostly.
But he'll be the guy then?
Yeah, probably.
Okay.
Let's talk wideouts real quick.
Let me give you a lay of the land points per game right now.
Tyreek is at number one by a lot.
The gap between Tyreek and the rest is more than three points per game right now, Tyreek is at number one by a lot. The gap between Tyreek and the rest is more than three points per game.
AJ Brown's at two.
Jefferson's at three.
Diggs at four.
Keenan at five.
Keenan's had some down weeks lately.
Jamar Chase at six.
Thielen sitting at seven.
Amon Ra at eight.
CeeDee Lamb at nine.
Puka sitting at ten.
Beyond that, it's DJ Moore, Mike Evans, Addison,
Nico Collins, and Brandon Ayuk.
When you look at the trajectory of these players,
I think the one that jumps out to you is Jamar Chase.
Other than Tyreek and A.J. Brown,
I don't think there's a player I'd want more than Jamar Chase
the rest of the season.
I would take Brown over Chase
the way things have gone. Yeah, that makes sense. But Chase is not, he doesn't belong at six. You
know, I definitely want him over Diggs and Allen. Yeah, I would, I would agree with that. Although
Diggs is not far behind for me. Diggs has been so consistent, so good. I mean, he's on pace right now for 136 receptions, 1600 yards,
13 touchdowns on 191 targets. I don't think he has gotten the respect of being such a superstar
as he deserves. And the ironic part is I feel like it's, it's almost because it's too consistent.
Like he doesn't have the game where he goes out there and puts up 44 points um he didn't did he have a three
touchdown game this year he did yeah yeah he did 33 points and somehow with three touchdowns wasn't
the wide receiver one that week interesting I think it just has to do with the kind of
some negativity around the the team because they've gone they've been up and
down and struggling and you know Diggs is always barking and I think it's just negative but you're
right he deserves that respect when you look at second half fading players you know Puka for sure
jumps off the feeling potentially for sure I think DJ Moore if you don't get Justin Fields back soon
and I think Jordan Addison.
I mean, I just don't.
There's no way consistency is going to be part of the equation
if the passing volume and you're taking 100 yards of distribution
away from them and adding Jefferson.
So those two things are concerning to me.
I'd rather have CeeDee Lamb than I would Dillon.
I'd rather have CeeDee Lamb than Amon Ra. I'd rather have CeeDee Lamb than I would Dillon. I'd rather have CeeDee Lamb than Amon Ra.
I'd rather have CeeDee Lamb than Keenan right now.
That was the next name I was going to bring up was Keenan is another one
that I think if I had to say who's going to fade from what they've done so far,
it's Keenan.
We've already seen it happening,
but he has not been able to play the role he wants without Mike Williams there.
Kuj has not been able to step into that Mike Williams role.
And so I think defenses can focus a little bit more on Keenan Allen more easily.
And it's hurt him.
So he's still going to be good.
But if you said, do you want Keenan or Amin Ra, even though Keenan scored more than Amin
Ra, I would take Amin Ra.
Any other thoughts, Mike?
No, I was going to ask on CD Lamb if you guys are buying into this.
It's a mini resurgence because it's a couple weeks,
but it looked like the offense has decided we need to focus
on getting the ball to CeeDee Lamb.
There was some hullabaloo in the media talking about
why aren't you
focusing on lamb and then the last two weeks they have so it's just how how high up do you have
lamb i'm very high very very high yeah me too they um the schedule you brought up over the
second half for dallas not to mention like i tried to get him before last week, and now I feel like the cat is out of the bag.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's closed now.
Tight ends.
Top 10 tight ends and fantasy points per game
with a minimum of five games played and half point.
Kelsey's at number one.
Surprise.
Andrew's at two.
Surprise.
Hawkinson at three.
Like, okay, we've got our preseason order.
Sam Laporte is at three. Like, okay, we've got our preseason order. Sam Laporta's at four.
On pace for 91, 9, 22, and 9, and he's going to get it.
I'm going to tell you right now.
Laporta is, from the first snap of the first game,
he's been a go-to receiver.
Kittle at five, benefiting from the lack of Debo lately.
Komet at six. Thomas, Logan Thomas Debo lately. Comet at six.
Thomas, Logan Thomas at seven.
Evan Ingram at eight.
Dallas Goddard at nine.
And Darren Waller at ten.
Man, so you've got four tight ends.
You're counting through Laporta?
Oh, absolutely.
Sam Laporta I would love to have in fantasy.
If you've got him on your roster, you have a great tight end most every week
certainly good enough does that hurt you does it hurt me yeah yeah no why would it because he's a
rookie oh no no no that's fine he's not don kakate don kakate is the is by far don kakate's on his
way don kakate is the one I want for the rest of the season
out of this top 10 group.
I'd take Kincaid over Kittle.
Yeah.
So I'd put Kincaid at five right now based on the way
that the second half of the season is looking.
Yeah.
Kittle, to me, is someone that I just can't take his levels of inconsistency.
You know, Kittle right now, four awesome games and four games under five fantasy points.
They just completely disappear.
We talked about Trey McBride, someone that could have a second half of the season break out.
We haven't seen as much from him in a longer period of time,
so you'd certainly have Kincaid above McBride,
but McBride is right there.
And then Fergie, Jake Ferguson, we like Dak's second-half sleeper potential.
The matchups, it goes well with Ferguson as well.
He's tied with Kelsey for the most tight in red zone targets
with 11 of them already.
Okay.
Trey McBride.
Where are you at?
I was in a great place.
I think it's going to be a bumpy situation this week.
I'm saying rest of season.
I think Trey McBride is above Logan Thomas. I'm having trey mcbride is above logan thomas i'm having a
very difficult time with trey mcbride like we uh today's dynasty podcast we featured a lot of uh
will levis and trey mcbride talk if you want to go check that out but like i am that is such not
a sell for i mean it is now but it but had that been your pitch for the Dynasty podcast a few weeks ago,
I'd be like, jam-packed with Will Levis and Trey McBride chatter.
Dynasty people, no.
You don't want to talk about just high-level guys.
You want to talk about nasty boys.
But I am in two Dynasty leagues.
Trey McBride is on the roster in both of them.
I am emotionally invested in Trey McBride being good.
So I'm having a hard time restricting myself of what we saw,
39% of the targets last week.
Essentially, when Trey McBride has been the featured tight end
with no Zacherts to compete with, we have two monster games
that many tight ends will never get close to in their entire career.
So moving forward, projecting that Kyler is back,
so let's say, so Logan Thomas, you said you'd rather,
what about Dallas Goddard or Trey McBride?
Andy.
I want the targets, man.
I want to know that the targets are coming every week.
Right now –
Is that Trey McBride or Goddard?
It's Trey McBride.
Okay.
Right now, Dallas Goddard is very capable of having a big week.
But I'm not sure he's much different than the outlook
that you'd have on Kittle or somebody like it seems like he lucks into a touchdown but he's not featured I mean that is
not he'll get some tight end screens but I want I want to shoot for the moon man I want Kincaid
and I want McBride and I want some guys that might get 10 to 15 targets on the right week
I just don't see Dallas Goddard having 10 targets.
Goddard has.
Yeah, he doesn't have a 10-target game.
What's his target lead game?
I'd be curious.
It's nine.
All right.
It's nine, but, I mean, he's averaging six per game,
but that has turned into two really strong performances,
but every other game, so six of the games,
he is at under seven points,
and a half point score.
I feel like when things go wrong, Goddard gets a target.
I feel like when things go right, McBride and Kincaid and Laporta get focused on.
I have not seen a lot of on-purpose Goddard targets outside his screen games.
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