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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Welcome in. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway,
the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, Thursday.
It's here, baby.
August 15th.
Gotcha, suckers.
Gotcha good.
I was going to say, like, the My Guys episode is one of the next two,
and today we're doing a mock draft.
Well, there was – I don't know if you followed, Andy.
There was quite the hullabaloo on Twitter because both Jason and I were under
the impression that My Guys was today.
Oh, you actually thought it was?
Yeah, I genuinely thought it was.
At the beginning of yesterday's episode, I thought it was.
So we tweeted out – every year we tweet out giving people a chance to guess.
You're like, what are our three My Guys?
Oh, no, I did the same thing.
Yeah, but except you didn't read our tweets when we said, My Guys is tomorrow.
Oh, you did?
Yeah.
And then.
I got a DM from Brooks being like, mid-show yesterday saying, hey, the My Guys show is
not until Friday. And I was like, hey, the My Guys show is not until Friday.
And I was like, whatever, I got to go.
I had my timer to edit my tweet.
I got in with like a minute left, so I changed mine to Friday.
So mine was saying it was Friday.
His was saying Thursday.
And the people were absolutely bamboozled.
Well, they are just on the edge of their seat.
I'm really disappointed that I didn't change all of our show titles
for the entire week to mock draft with a question mark.
I mean, sorry, my guys with a question mark in front of it.
Is it today?
It will be tomorrow.
I tweeted the same thing, people guessing are my guys,
and I gave a big hint about my my guys.
Yeah, you basically gave yours away, bro.
Did people get it?
Some people got it, but they're not my my guys anymore.
Oh, yeah.
I did see you.
You sent out a tweet of I said you were changing.
I just said, you know, sources are telling me that some things may be moving and changing.
And, you know, are you the source?
I am the source.
I am both sources.
Is that allowed?
You can be your own.
Can you put out and just like
i've got sources telling me that this is happening but actually you're the source the whole time
um i think that happens a lot like from bad reporters i just it looks some injuries say
it was a good source some injuries have taken place yeah and. And, you know. Do I even know?
I know that like big decisions in life, right?
Like if you decide that you're going to get married and you decide this is the person I'm going to be with the rest of my life.
And then your bride gets hurt right before the wedding.
And you're like, I'm out.
You're too frail.
Pivot.
Sometimes you pivot is what I.
Yeah, you get cold feet.
Availability is an ability. I'm just saying're out like on the get out of here tina in the grand scheme of things the my guy
decision is so much bigger than your like a marriage right is is kind of my point yeah
so you just got to make sure you get it right yeah because these ones are for life oh any any former my guys you wish you could
uh annul the marriage my wife there's been a few is some exes yeah you don't want no one to remember
um oh gosh what what was that is this true no yeah that's a true story dude that's no no no that's elite
no hey look you this is true so my god this is the worst podcast
we'll read it i don't feel like i can't read it well welcome foot clan to the fantasy footballers
if you're new stick with us We do get into fantasy football content.
We try to do a great job at it, but sometimes we just have fun.
And we're going to be going up head-to-head today in the mock draft against our stupid producers.
Ballers v. Ducers.
And one of them, the baby, the Falcon Taker.
Oh, man, he is embarrassed.
The Dump Truck is about to get exposed here in a way that you will enjoy.
Mike, take it away.
So I just found this out that at some time recently, Matt, a.k.a. the Falcon, a.k.a. Poopy Pants McGee,
disclosed that he previously would take a date to an escape room as a test to see how they,
like, can they handle the pressure?
Can they solve these puzzles?
Because he wants an intellectual match.
And if they can't escape, he's out.
That's brutal.
You did not pass the test?
Is that what the story is? No. It's like a wonderlick for your date? They didn't pass the test is that what the is that what the story is no it's like a wonder
for your date they didn't pass the test it's like a compatibility test you know yeah no i i look i
totally get it man and what happens then what happens if you're the one who can't figure out
the puzzles they leave me yeah all right i like the idea that they're in two separate rooms and
when if they don't both come out at i mean, whoever comes out first just drives away.
Oh, man.
So, yeah, I'm also reacting to some very fresh news that we'll get into
that's going to make tomorrow all the worse.
Before we jump into it, like the mock draft is going to be amazing today.
It's been a while since the three of us got to combine on a team and we get
to compete against the deuces and explain some of the process.
And we're getting so close to regular real drafts.
In fact,
I'm in two drafts right now in a,
not league of record,
but like some other leagues.
So it's happening.
And,
um,
which means we have like the most recent informational middle of the
preseason ADP data to go off of.
But, I mean, tomorrow's a big day for more than just the my guys.
Tomorrow afternoon, we will be bestowing.
Yeah, a UDK for life will be given away tomorrow afternoon
along with a signed Justin Jefferson jersey.
So for the rest of your natural life, you could have championships,
which seems like something great.
It seems like something I'd want.
And the winners will be chosen and announced live on the YouTube channel
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And to enter to win, you just have to have purchased a UDK or a UDK Plus
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We're super excited to be with you tomorrow afternoon on the live stream.
And hop on the live stream with us.
We're going to answer.
If you've got a question for your upcoming drafts,
you want to get a direct line to us.
Hop in.
See if you can get your question answered and then see if you're the winner of the ultimate draft kit, which you will already be a winner if you're even in the contest because you will have an ultimate draft kit.
Two things.
One, you go to ultimate draft kit dot com to check that out.
Two, I have you know, we're busy.
This is August.
This is a busy time of year.
And we've got, you know, Papa Josh and the Falcon.
They handle some customer service questions that come through the support channel.
I have jumped in here and there, and I did answer one question about whether you could be Queeth, the UDK.
And what was the official answer?
The answer I chose to give in that moment was that yes,
if it is a written will with a feather pin.
That's totally fair.
You have to use a quill.
Yeah, you have to use a quill and ink. And none of that built-in ink quill.
That is not real.
That's a dipper.
That's a dip.
It's a dip in bequeath.
Yeah.
Okay.
Official.
Stamped.
We still get to do this show?
Yep.
We do.
Are we good? Are we good, Al?
We're doing good, man.
All right, let's jump into some news.
News and notes from around the league.
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Giants rookie Malik Nabors, full practice today.
This is something I really wanted to see after the injury,
that he'd be back out on the field this week.
In fact, there's a chance he plays in the preseason game.
That is great news.
Makes you really not concerned of a lingering long-term issue.
So however you viewed him before the injury
is probably how you should view him going forward.
But it's also worth
reminding yourselves and ourselves what mike brought up yesterday of how how difficult it is
for a top fantasy producer to come from a bottom just lots lots to think about yeah lots of
consideration for whoever he needs he needs extreme volume which i which all reports at a camp are that is what he is getting
in joint practices and everything.
So that's the hope is that his talent is so elite
and he'll see a 28-plus percent target share.
And if he gets that, then maybe things are okay.
Yeah, man.
Glad he's back out there.
They also signed former running back of the chargers
josh kelly yeah it's probably it's a camp body i would imagine because of tracy's injury tracy's
injury and then uh jameer gibbs what's the latest we're hearing that he should be ready for week
one despite the kind of wishy-washy quote yesterday from Dan Campbell, the reports have gotten more positive.
I don't view this as any different, to be honest.
When I read the full reporting, it felt more like they were taking the quotes
of we think he's going to be fine to just say he should be ready by week one.
So I'm still holding my breath.
I was trying to remember when you were talking about neighbors
and how bad the Giants were and just the fact that, like,
they were a – the Bengals, when they drafted Chase,
were a 4-11 team or a 4- –
Well, that was also coming off –
The math didn't add up there.
But they were a bad team.
Right, but that was also the year –
was that when Joe Burrow was coming off of his ACL?
No, I think –
Let me look that up.
It was just that the team changed from being one of the worst offensive teams
very quickly.
And, yes, Burrow was a piece of that puzzle too.
We don't have the Burrow in New York.
Christian Kirk, minor calf injury to Christian Kirk.
What do we think about that?
He's not a spring chicken.
We don't like to see it.
It's also been interesting in preseason.
He hasn't necessarily been in two wide receiver sets,
so I'm starting to get a little bit more worried about the –
like I have loved drafting Christian Kirk because of the perceived floor
of just being like he is the clear-cut number one target for an offense
that I don't think is going to be a top five offense,
but it should be pretty good.
It should be a top half offense, but it should be pretty good. It should be a top half offense.
And if you've got a clear number one late in drafts,
but if he's not on the field in two wide receiver sets
and he's dealing with a minor calf in draft,
bump them down a little bit.
And on top of that, Andy, your boy, Brian Thomas Jr.,
the drumbeat has been – it started off pretty rough for him,
like all the reports, but in the last week to two weeks, The drumbeat has been – it started off pretty rough for him,
like all the reports, but in the last week to two weeks,
it has really been escalating that he's starting to figure it out.
He's making plays.
He's making people look silly.
So he was already in the spot of, I'm good taking a rookie wide receiver here no matter what their situation is
because the ADP is good.
It's where they used to be, right?
Late round picks.
Yeah, the risk-reward was usually a fantastic scenario.
Now we've got these other guys who are way up there.
But Thomas is in an area where I think you should get some exposure.
Yeah, it seems similar to kind of a cheaper Green Bay Packers situation
where you've got, like, I think Jaden Reed, the better wide receiver,
but you worry about the ceiling versus Christian Watson, a complete unknown.
But you go the athleticism, the traits, that one period where he scored touchdowns at will.
That's like if you want to take the rocket fuel chance, that's Brian Thomas Jr.
All right, Matthew Stafford, you hate to see this
because the fragility
of the Rams
fantasy prospects,
it's always right in your face
with Matthew Stafford. He did not finish
practice. McVay said
he was experiencing hamstring
tightness. Wait, I thought it was
his back. No, no, no. It was hamstring.
McVay just
said yeah unfortunately it tightened up on him you don't like to hear this um just because the
prospects of the entire you know cup Puka Kyron take you know if you take it's a massive hit I
mean if if if Stafford misses time uh maybe later in the season when Jimmy Garoppolo comes back from suspension, okay,
they've got a serviceable backup.
As of right now, I believe it's Stetson Bennett.
I forgot he was suspended for BEDs, right?
Yeah.
Oh, that guy.
You don't get that handsome naturally.
What happens when the drugs don't enhance your performance?
They must be enhancing your looks.
What about, like about neutral performance drugs?
Are those legal?
Yeah, those are vitamins.
Honestly, I swore I saw something about back yesterday.
Maybe I just quickly read through it.
Back is way worse to me.
If Stafford has a back issue, then that'll be red flags.
If it's a hamstring,'m okay i have not seen anything
about it okay deuces if you know it was i read the thing directly from mcveigh yeah yeah i'm saying
when it initially came out maybe and again maybe i just probably probably just last night that's
not good no jj mccarthy underwent a full meniscus repair out for the entire season.
This stinks, man, for Vikings fans, for J.J. McCarthy.
And J.J. McCarthy comes out, looks awesome in his first preseason game.
He leaves that game, to my knowledge, he wasn't injured.
It was just, wow, I'm so happy with his performance.
He looks great.
He's going to take over for the sacrificial baby even earlier than expected.
And then all of a sudden, he's out for the season.
It certainly changes things.
Yeah, what's your take on Jefferson?
And we got a lump Addison in here as well.
Let's just combo that news because he, right after the J.J. McCarthy news came out,
news broke Jordan Addison just went down uh trying to sky up for a ball ends up getting carted off and it's holy crap you know
you never want to hear carted off but that has been turned into it's just a minor ankle injury
but it's still an injury so where are you at just overall with the Vikings office because this is big stuff happening I would not be surprised if it is neutral to positive for the
wide receiver crew even though J.J. McCarthy looked great he's still a rookie and rookies
don't throw a lot of touchdowns now I don't think Sam Darnold's gonna yeah I was gonna say like let's
let's just bring it into the like D.J. Moore was not um a weapon with sam darnold right like i mean this is i think we have
you can see it go either way like we have different views on this because you guys both kind of of the
opinion and i like your point mike you said this uh on a social post yesterday you will have
consistency you will not have this period of the season which is annoying where you're like are
they going to make the change are they not going to make the change like if you get some trends
with sam darn at least you know that that's what you're going to
continue to get but I don't like it I personally think that J.J. McCarthy is
going to be a better higher ceiling opportunity for these players yeah long term I definitely
agree with that though what we know though though, is at least last year,
and look, Kevin O'Connell teams, they throw a lot.
Even when Kirk Cousins went down and they had quarterbacks who were quality of backup to backup.
Like these are third string guys out there taking starts for the Minnesota Vikings.
They were still throwing a ton.
So at least efficiency might struggle with Sam D Darnold but volume will be there um what
do you got going here yeah I mean you know something I probably should have looked into
even earlier but it look we're live here and we're we're doing it live I didn't remember because
we've had two years off from Sam Darnold who was a very highly drafted prospect and people have
still believed in and they've said you know he's he, he's a good backup and he's going to be fine as a starter. He was
the starter right now for the Vikings already. I forgot how bad he was. Here's his touchdown,
because I'm like, okay, rookies are going to come and what are they going to throw? Are they going
to throw for 20 touchdowns and ruin your fantasy output? Here are Sam Darnold's career passing touchdowns.
Rookie year 17.
Sophomore year 19.
Then the next two years, he was still the starter,
didn't play the full seasons.
I'm going to give you his 17-game pace,
a full-season pace for those seasons.
12 and 13.
Full-season pace on passing touchdowns.
Yeah. So, Andy, you on passing touchdowns. Yeah.
So, Andy, you're 100% right.
Yeah, it's a concern.
It's a real concern for me.
Whether you throw the ball a lot, we saw Sam Howell.
They threw the ball more than anybody in football.
Did that make Terry McLaurin, Jahan Dotson, those guys super weapons? And Sam Howell wasn't a super weapon in fantasy either.
I mean, volume, yes, Kevin O'Connell throws it a lot.
But I want skill and talent.
But this is what we've got.
Yeah, no, it is now.
But I would not be shocked at all if Minnesota,
now that they know that McCarthy is out for the year,
if we don't see a splashy veteran name arrive on this team not named
Josh Dobbs. They're going to go out
and sign Matt Ryan?
P. River
back out of retirement? I don't know about those,
but I think somebody in the
Matt Ryan. Somebody in the Winston
and the
Oh, Jameis, go get him, baby.
Oh, Jameis. That's a great
name. Don't forget, Sam Darnold saw ghosts on the field before.
Get Jameis out there, man.
Let him throw for 5K again.
Let's do this.
That I would be excited about.
Look, I'm sorry, Vikings fans.
It's not been great as of late.
It even further concerns me about Aaron Jones,
just from an offensive perspective,
all the stuff you highlighted on the top 10 tips and tricks.
Yeah, I mean, Minnesota, when I was doing that study of looking at bottom 10 offenses, trying to project them anyways,
it's hard to not put Minnesota in there,
and that was before the J.J. McCarthy injury.
They were like a fringe team where I didn't –
they could surprise.
I think it would be middle of the pack,
but bottom 10 is in their range of outcomes.
All right.
There's been a lot of news, a lot of little injuries.
Also, Chuba Hubbard and Tyler Lockett both dealing with injuries
not considered to be serious, but pay attention to those.
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you go i want to give you the fantasy footballers mock draft i mean i i put a period it sounded like
you put a period at the end of your sentence it's a pump fake man that's all me it was a it was a
fake handoff i was dropping back to pass and i I got sacked. You did get sacked.
That was unfair.
I think you were going to say that you want to see them there.
I was going to say I want to give them a fist bump.
Okay.
But, you know.
That's a good toss-in.
Important.
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All right.
We are diving into a live mock draft here on this show.
Taking on the Ducers over there in Ducer's Alley,
who look like they are super prepared.
We've got
the Falcons smirking. Al
with kind of an unsettled confidence
and then... I think is that a
scowl from Papa Josh? A scowl
from the... Oh, not from the Al.
It's hard to tell over the shine. He actually
doesn't know what's going on.
We are jumping right in. It's hard to tell over the shine. He actually doesn't know what's going on. We are
jumping right in. It's a
12-team half PPR mock draft.
We're going to spread it out
wide. Trips. Got three wide
outs, two running backs, one quarterback,
one tight end, one flex, four bench spots.
And we randomly selected
some spots. We ended up at
four. The Deucers at pick
eight.
Okay. Away spots we ended up at four the deuces at pick eight okay away we go Tyree Kale goes off the board first I don't mind it no it makes a ton of sense especially in three wide CeeDee Lamb also
makes sense at two is Christian McCaffrey gonna drop to us no McCaffrey's off the board at three
and we are on the clock at 104 and and you know you're gonna have to reorient your mind
we are not enemies we're not mortal enemies on this show we're actually friends we're friends
we need to draft a better team than the deuces that's obvious that's easy well you know just be
careful so obviously i think i i assume we all agree this is a three-way decision not between
us but between three players you got Bijan and Brees at running
back and you got Jamar Chase at wide receiver right that's who we're looking at is there anyone
else in the conversation here at four I'm always fine with somebody considering Elman Ra in the
same conversation as Jamar Chase but um yeah but we don't have to do that uh Mike where would you
like to go?
Man, there still is elite wide receivers on the board,
and having to play three, it changes things.
But, man, playing hero running back here,
I think is the direction I would start this. I like playing hero running back.
If you don't know what that is,
hero running back is a like playing hero running back if you don't know what that is hero running back
is a version of zero running back where you do draft one of if you get one of the studs one of
the heroes which basically this year right now feels like only three options Christian McCaffrey
Bijan and Brees then you're going to go away from running back for a while load up on wide
receivers or even your onesie positions um I think that's a good
strategy in a three wide um because you know you still need running backs but uh it's tough I mean
to me I'm between I like Bijan more than Brees and I love Jamar Chase in a three wide so if you
don't want to have that strategy if we yeah I'm fine with Chase here I Mike and I are on the
Brees side you're on the Bijan side but we're all on the Chase side, I think.
I don't know if it makes a difference.
I'm looking at, like, you know, sleepers' picks.
Their week one lines, we got Jamar Chase at 83.5 receiving yards,
Bichon at 71 rushing yards.
Get off to a hot start.
Does that sway you towards Chase?
I mean, that doesn't, but I'll tell you.
I was already swayed. i was pre-swayed
so we're chasing it yeah we'll go chase i love it oh we'll go chase nope nope
ty goes to the runner jamar chase at 104 so stupid b john robinson goes off the board at 105
and then jefferson and amon raw i. I have seen Jefferson rising in just anecdotal.
My participation in mocks and real drafts,
I have seen Jefferson going up.
He is brutal.
I don't mean as a reaction to the Darnold news,
just in general, even before that happened.
He's the best wide receiver in football.
Yeah, that's a good headline for him.
I believe it's a bad pick.
I really do uh there's so there I know that he is when when does he become a good pick
like the one two turn maybe uh I I guess really it's it's a matter of who he's going ahead of
or behind like I would never take him personally ahead of Amon Ross St. Brown or A.J. Brown any of
the Browns none none, none of them.
Well, Hollywood, I would definitely take it.
So I guess, I guess we can't do that.
All right.
The deuces on the clock here.
And, um, I don't know who's going to be the, like the project leader, you know, when you're
in school and you got to do the project with a group, but then somebody has to present,
uh, which one of the deuces is making this pick.
We're going to start with me.
Okay.
Uh, that's we're hoping Amon Rob would fall but he did not he went right before us so we're gonna
go ahead and take breeze hall right here yeah you got an easy layup of a pick that stinks
are you gonna have a way to kind of you're gonna disclaim all of our picks yeah that's
gonna say you're gonna have a way to like make all of their picks kind of like
invalid if i if i need to but i think they're gonna do it themselves Yeah, I was going to say, you're going to have a way to make all of their picks kind of invalid.
If I need to, but I think they're going to do it themselves.
All right, Brees haul off the board.
It was an option for us.
I think if we had gone running back, it would have been majority rules on Brees there.
So you get them four picks later.
AJ Brown goes next.
Jameer Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor, Saquon Barkley rounding out the first round.
In fact, that is another trend I am noticing is the Saquon above Kyron situation.
I'm seeing that a lot.
Garrett Wilson starting the second round.
Pukunukua, Etienne, and then Marvin Harrison at 204 here.
I'm never going back to the past.
Okay.
That is a deep cut.
It's going back to the NFL draft when our Arizona Cardinals drafted Marvin
I love you, Marv.
And Mike exclaimed that he would never wear pants again.
He was that excited.
So not going back to the pants store.
What?
You didn't get him.
I know.
You didn't get him.
No, I'm celebrating that the Deucers did not get him.
Fair enough.
The Deucers are back on the clock at 205.
Brees hauling the first round.
What do we got going on?
What's the thought process?
Also, who are you drafting?
The thought process is a lot of the guys we were looking at went off the board.
Obviously, Kyron would be a great pick here,
but we don't know that we want to double up on our Bs
in a three-wide receiver roster.
So I think we're going to reach just a touch and go for Christopher Olave.
Or is it Christian?
It's Christian Olave.
No, he drafted Christopher Olave, who is a postman in Nebraska.
You don't want to mess with the postman.
Drake London goes next. So Brees Hall and Chris
Olave at your
first two picks. Drake London
Drake London at
206. Derek Henry at 207.
Kyron at 208. Kyron
almost fell to 209. That
would have been our layup pick if
Kyron had fallen since we went wide receiver and grabbed Jamar.
Kyron is still in that next tier of elites to me.
I still think there's just one pick jumping off the page to me.
We went chase.
I thought we'd be okay.
Now we're going to have a quick turn.
We're going to come right back.
But to me, there's one guy i agree that i believe should
be drafted here i agree i know who jason wants i don't know who andy wants to pick devon achin
oh man okay that is who i want yeah that that would be the pick for me now just to lay give
you a lay of the land at wide receiver davante adams is still there if If Adams was there at 3-0-4, I think that would be a strong pick
and a three wide in terms of value.
Debo, Ayuk, those guys are there.
We've had a lot of wideouts go off the board.
Kyrie would have been a neat steal here.
But I'm comfortable with A-Chan.
Put A-Chan through.
Yeah, I have made the transition to being fully comfortable with him
as my running back.
One, it is risky.
It is a gamble.
But you're playing to win.
You're not playing to just, you know,
be a decent team that maybe squeaks in the playoffs and loses week one.
So, A-chan, so far so good on the, like, you know,
we're agreeing with one another.
Dude, I got my golden ticket.
I'm ready.
Oh, boy.
If I need to sway you, I've still got a golden ticket i'm ready if if i need to sway you
i've still got a golden ticket good for one free andy holloway agreement we'll just make sure
mike's on your side for that otherwise it's going to be a real waste oh that's true i don't want to
waste your golden ticket chase and h and our first two selections drafting from the fourth spot the
deucers have breeze hall and chris olave travis kelsey goes next off the board
at 210 a little bit early for where i would be comfortable taking that shot 100 um but jacobs
at 211 adams at 212 josh allen the first quarterback at 301 iuka nico collins um we
narrowly avoided mike hard selling us nico collins at4. I feel like it would have been an easy sell.
If Nico was here, that probably would have been my pick.
Now, we just had a tight-end episode where I said I was comfortable
with Laporta at the 301.
This would be the 304, just bringing it up.
I know you guys are not going to be on board for that.
I'm not going to push you too hard.
But I don't mind that advantage at this point in a draft i might
mind it a little more in a three wide though where you have an extra spot to fill yeah and that does
change the equation so i'm not going to push there but at running back looking at names that i know
we have some agreement on pacheco james cook joe Mixon for some stability. I talked yesterday about dynamic duos.
I'm not sure it gets better than the Mixon-A-Chan combo
as far as a floor-and-ceiling running back duo,
and then James Conner still there.
At wideout, we all like Debo.
We have him ranked very high, and he is way below where we would have him
in terms of what running back or wide out off the board.
Jalen Waddell, Mike, you're a big fan.
The question becomes, are you good starting with A-chan and Jalen Waddell?
I was really hoping Nico would drop so we didn't have to make that decision
because I get it if you don't want to overload with the Miami Dolphins
with your second and third pick.
I do like Debo, and I get the three wide,
but right now, out of this group, I would push for Isaiah Pacheco.
I mean, you just named him.
To me, it's Pacheco or Debo Samuel.
I love both players.
I think both players are undervalued.
Being the fact that we are in a three wide,
I think that would tie break for me for the Debo side.
I love Pacheco.
I would be 100% fine with either one of these guys.
Where do you have Pacheco?
I'll have to look that up.
I think he's about 10, 9 or 10.
He's in my top 10, and Debo is outside of my top 12 wide receivers.
Consensus-wise, Debo is our wide receiver 7.
I was going to say, yeah, we just did that show.
I remember he was at seven.
Yeah.
We have him very high.
Mike, you have him very high.
Yeah.
You've got him at 13.
I've got him at nine.
Andy at nine.
But that consensus-wise puts him up.
Because there's a lot of disagreement on the wide receivers at this point in the draft.
Well, let's play this out for the sake of the audience, what I think the two outcomes could be.
If we went with Debo Samuel and we felt like we needed
to come back and stabilize the running back position,
we're probably going to be in the James
Connor, Ramondre,
Swift category, maybe
with a chance at Alvin Kamara.
If you flip it the other direction, we go
Pacheco, you're probably
talking about Cooper Cup,
who I like, Michael Pittman,
a stabilizer,
Devontae Smith,
Tank Dell,
DJ Moore. I don't want
to take Dink. Take Dink?
I don't want to take
Tank. You don't want to take
Tank? I'd rather take him at
5.04 and take that shot at ADP.
But anyway.
I will say that is a really good
thing to do if you're listening and you're trying to decide
between a running back and a wide receiver. Look at who's going to be there
next because that convinced me to switch to the
Pacheco side. I feel like I like those
wide receivers a lot more than those running backs.
You guys want to do that? Yes. Okay.
Pacheco off the board. I'm loving
this team. Jalen Hurts goes 305.
Sam Laporta at 306.
Okay. Mike Evans off the board.
Deucers are on the clock.
Brees Hall was the first round pick.
Chris Olave their
second round pick.
I can
see Jason shaking his head because he thinks
that the Deucers are just going to
quick draw on Debo.
I don't know if that's a...
They did. They took Debo Samuel with just going to quick draw on Debo. Yeah, but no. I don't know if that's a – okay, they did.
They did.
Yeah, they took Debo Samuel with no need to explain.
Waddle was our other guy we were considering there.
Yeah, I mean, it's good.
Your team is actually – I mean, I don't want to compliment anything you guys do.
However, it's working out very well.
The fact that we were considering Brees Hall at the 104
and you got him picks later, and we were considering Derees Hall at the 104 and you got him picks later,
and we were considering Debo at the 304 and you got him picks later,
you're getting good value.
Now, you guys must listen to our show a lot.
Yeah, I mean, I hope.
Seven wideouts have gone off the board.
One thing to consider when I was playing out both scenarios
was the fact that three wide more wide outs might
go cup is gone Waddle's gone DJ Moore who I love is gone and then digs and neighbors so
deuces back on the clock I think I've given them enough time to make the wrong decision
yeah I mean they don't need a lot of time to make a dumb pick.
The truth is, I'm still
happy with several wide receivers.
I mean, I'll say that and then it will all be wide receivers,
but there's a handful of guys I really like here.
So, I think we're set
up okay. Alright, what's your pick?
Trey McBride, baby.
It's funny. They went Trey McBride
and I was
going to bring the name up if he got back to us
as a as a option at 409 Chase Achan and Pacheco our first three off the board oof Jason is looking
around tell us what you're thinking is this because James Cook made it back uh no that that
is interesting but uh he's looking around because he wants to take Tank Dell as our wide receiver, too.
You mentioned earlier, Andy, you want to play the ADP game, wait until the fifth.
What we've seen in this draft is because it is three wide receiver,
not the 2-2 and a flex, it's 3-2 and a flex,
where the wide receivers have all been pushed up.
You talked about Michael Pittman or Cooper Kopp or Devontae Smith
making it back to us.
None of them did.
And there's six picks between our next pick,
and we're currently with one wide receiver.
So to me, we've got to take a wide receiver.
Mark Andrews?
I mean, I think the value is there.
Dalton Kincaid?
But if you look at, yeah, you've got two good tight ends,
and obviously both could go to Team 1 and Team 2.
Team 3 already has a tight end,
so we could end up with either one of them at our next pick at wide receiver there's tank dell and t higgins are really the
only guys left cooper yeah i i've cooled on him a little bit but i i gotta remember how hot i was
for amari cooper this offseason well you've cooled but you were you were really hot so what's your
temperature is it still above average?
Are you feverish?
It's like a...
Low grade?
I think some people call it a low grade.
It's 99.9.
But I would not call that a fever.
Thank you.
It's not.
Some people say, that's a low grade fever.
No, it's not.
Just be tougher.
Do you feel good?
I feel totally fine.
Okay.
I got a little bit of the sweats.
But most of my sweats are for Tank Del.
I mean, this draft is working out well for me.
So I like it.
But what do you guys think?
I mean, you can go Tank Dell and come back with probably Alvin Kamara
in the next round if you wanted to.
Or one of those tight ends.
Mike, I have not heard from you.
I need you to weigh in here because Jason's got a low-grade fever
and I don't trust what he's saying.
It's tough.
Tank Dell would be my highest-ranked wide receiver
that I would be going with.
The fact that James Cook –
Do you have him ahead of T. Higgins?
Let me just double-check.
Yeah, yes.
Higgins should probably not be a consideration for a Chase team anyway.
Right, right, right.
I'm good with Tank Dell, but the fact that James Cook made it back is –
I know it's three wide, but having H.M. Pacheco and James Cook,
all guys who I have a strong conviction can and should finish as top 12 running backs,
it's hard to bypass that.
With Cook being here, in hindsight,
I would have rather taken Debo and then come back with James Cook.
Right, for sure.
But we didn't.
And if I compare Pacheco and Tank Dell to Debo and James Cook,
I'm just as happy with that.
I would take Tank Dell here and then see if we get lucky
with Cook or Mixon or Walker or
Kamara coming back to us.
James Cook will definitely not make it back.
If we're sitting here, though, and saying that wide receivers
are going to go off the board more often, there's a chance
that we get Andrews
and Kincaid off the board
and a quarterback
and a wideout,
which would make it a fun gamble.
Let's give it a shot.
After Dell was James Cook,
Zay Flowers, Joe Mixon, T. Higgins, Camara, and then Stroud.
So we are back.
If we want to go running back,
we've lost the names I really liked.
Cook, Mixon.
Ken Bone Walker's still there, guys.
Yeah, Cook, Mixon, and Camara. I mean, Ken Walker's great. Ken Bone Walker's still there, guys. Yeah, Cook, Mixon, and Kamara.
I mean, Ken Walker's great.
Omari Cooper's still on the board.
It is three wide pickings.
Yeah, and you have both tight ends.
You could take Mark Andrews here in the fifth round.
This is probably time to take Mark Andrews.
I think so.
I've talked about I like leaving the draft with one of the top five.
Mark Andrews is, I think, two of our number two tight ends
overall. You've
gotten guys that you like, though, Jay, so I'm going to let
Mike make the pick
and he can decide if he wants Kim
Bone Walker or Mark
Bone Andrews.
Did you guys
see he was in a wreck? Yeah, a car
yesterday. They said the wreck was
really bad and yet Mark Andrews supermanned it?
Like when Cam Newton flipped a truck and just walked away?
So hopefully Mark is actually okay over there.
It's your pick, Mike.
I don't care what you do.
I'm going to officially say I don't care what you do either.
You don't care what I do?
No.
You live your best life.
Okay.
KB Dub.
I lied. I lied.
I lied. I was really wanting Mark Andrews there. Ken Walker on the board. I need people
to get on board with Ken Walker. He's going
to be great. So you took him as kind of a
lead the parade? Yeah.
Well, Kincaid, Pickens, and Andrews went
the next three picks, which at least
I mean, I guess the Deucers already
had McBride, so we weren't going to hand off
Mark Andrews to them, but the Deucers have Breeshaw, Olave,ucers already had McBride, so we weren't going to hand off Mark Andrews to them.
But the Deucers have Breeshaw, Olave, Debo, and McBride.
So I'm guessing that they're staring down that running back spot,
but maybe not.
Maybe they like the value.
So looking at the decision for us, like between Walker and Mark Andrews,
I hate that I hate this section of wide receivers.
Like I get it with Amari Cooper.
The numbers make sense.
The numbers 100 make sense, and the offense should be good.
And yet I still don't really want to draft Amari Cooper. And Keenan Allen has got a rookie quarterback,
and Kirk's got his injury, and Terry's got a rookie quarterback.
This section of wide receivers is.
And Keenan just feels he hit 300 on the scale.
He did it.
Yeah.
300 pounds on the scale.
That is the dumbest storyline of my life.
I watched the second episode of Hard Knocks.
Keenan looks totally normal.
He wasn't eating the whole time.
He was not eating the entire episode.
Was that episode brought to you by five guys?
In fact, you know who was eating was DJ Moore.
He was at the ice cream shop.
Mad props to DJ Moore.
Mad props to DJ Moore.
All right.
It is really stupid.
We're going to take a break and then come back with the Deucer's Pick.
All right.
Hopefully we iced the kicker by taking the break.
You know what I mean?
Like too overthinking.
Like I think there's a chance.
Way to call time out there.
They go Bucky Irving here.
But Doozers, what are we doing?
Amari Cooper.
That makes sense.
I mean, we are riding super dirty here.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
What?
That's your fault.
No, I know.
I wanted Debo.
I know.
I'm just saying.
I wanted Andrews.
We are.
Well, Andrews is not a wide receiver.
When we said we didn't care, Mike, we cared.
I think we're okay on wide receiver.
Maybe you should use your words better.
No, no, no.
We cared to have somebody to blame.
Amari Cooper, then Keenan Allen, then DeAndre Swift,
Aaron Jones, and George Kittle round out the fifth round.
And then James Conner, always a little sad when he goes
because I always like to grab me some James Conner late in drafts,
but we're already three running backs deep.
Kyle Pitts, Anthony Richardson at 6.03, and David Montgomery off the board.
The Ducers with three wide, Olave, Debo, and Amari Cooper.
Trey McBride at tight end and Brees Hall at running back.
They have adopted, Jason, the hero RB strategy thus far.
And they are back on the clock at 605.
Will they keep it going or grab a running back?
Let's find out.
We are going low T on this one, boys, and we are taking Jaden Reed.
Okay.
Wow, okay.
So you really are using the hero running back strategy,
which I think in a three-wide receiver league is a great strategy.
You can load up on some later running backs, guys like Jerome Ford,
who might be able to get off to a strong start, and then you pick up waiver pickups to fill in those running back positions.
It's a strategy that can definitely win a league.
After Reed went, Ramondre, McLaurin, and Kirk, and I...
Great. Fantastic. I know exactly who the pick is.
You know who the pick is?
Yes.
I'm curious if I know who the pick is. You know who the pick is? Yes. I'm curious if I know who the pick is.
There are two players in my mind that I'm paying attention to right here.
Yeah.
And you should know one of them.
There's a few.
One of them for you is going to be Calvin Ridley.
Then that's what the pick is.
That's my vote as well.
Okay.
And then hopefully coming back with Kyler.
Okay.
Maybe, but I was – okay.
The fact that we could take either Kyler or Burrow,
because Burrow stacks with Jamar Chase,
and I think that that would be wonderful here.
That was just kind of the tip from yesterday's episode.
Even a better situation because you can wait.
And two of the three teams between us have quarterbacks.
So even if they take Burrow, we go Kyler.
If they take Kyler, we go Burrow.
All I heard was draft Ridley. Calvin Ridley off the board at the 609.
Nice pick.
Worthy, Harris, Odunze, Pollard, Engram, Godwin,
and now we've got a problem.
Yeah.
It's a good problem to have.
Well, the bigger problem for me, honestly.
Are there some like Red Rice on the board?
It's Rasheed Rice.
Yeah.
Because at that spot where we just took Ridley,
I would have been very happy ADP-wise to get Rasheed Rice on the squad there.
The reason I didn't even approach it is because we had Pacheco.
So it was, well, let's balance out.
Let's try and get the Tennessee offense.
See, if they have anything to give us, it will be from
Calvin Ridley. But now
that Rice is back
and just push the quarterback
spot back. Joe Burrow getting the
stack here would be... You know what? I'm on that side now, I think.
It would be great, but Dak is still
there. Jordan Love. Jaden Daniels.
Yeah.
There are other options, and because
we went with Kenneth Walker, I feel
like loading up
on wide receiver and a three wide receiver, I'm going to be very
happy with that. There's plenty of quarterbacks that
are good later and maybe we could
still do a stack with one of them.
Bye-bye.
We went with
Rice and then
Moser went next and then Burrow and Murray went back
to back. Which I love because I know the Ducers were Rice. And then Mostert went next, and then Burrow and Murray went back-to-back.
And I think that – Which I love because I know the Deucers were going to take one of those two guys.
Oh, and they're all nodding profusely.
We literally were down to three guys, and it was those three guys.
Oh, it was Mostert, Burrow, and Murray?
Yeah.
Excellent.
I love that – I mean, it worked out, of course.
Sometimes playing the game, you lose.
But not taking Rice at the 6-0-9, he still has the suspension worries.
That will be a looming factor, I think, for most of the season
unless you get an official report that everything of the court case
has been – everything's pushed back.
If you get that, then you'll have the all clear.
But him as the wide receiver four well and then Ridley's
the three I mean that that worked out sensationally all right the deucer is back on the clock I've
given him so much time there's no way that if I hand it over to them one of them's not going to
talk into a microphone so who is the pick uh that didn't feel like a lot of time but I think we're
gonna go ahead and uh lean on my homerism and take Jordan Love to stack with Jaden. Wow.
Okay. All right. Hey, Jordan Reed. Get your guy. Jaden Reed, Jordan Love is a back-end stack that I
like putting together. So I don't mind that at all. I also think this is one of the reasons why
it's really fun to do the draft the way that we're doing it, the three of us versus three of them.
We've talked so much about the adp comparison tool
different platforms different systems jason talked about stacks like they could have gone a different
quarterback there were several by adp that might have been higher but they went with the guy that
matched up with the player they just took and you're going to see some a lot of variation in
your drafts exactly like that so Might have been a bit of a surprise
to Jason, but
fit the
deucer's desires. Yeah, I don't mind
it at all. After Jordan Love
went Zemir White, Brock Bowers,
absolute steal
at 7-10. No, not really
a steal. Not really a steal.
But I'm excited about him. Addison,
Moss,
Deontay Johnson, Dak, who unfortunately I was kind of eyeballing as a hopeful selection later.
Hollywood Brown and Jalen Warren.
And the Ducers are back on the clock right now just to give you a lay of the land
and give them a moment to decide.
Still riding dirty with Brees Hall all alone.
But then Olave, Debo,
and Amari Cooper and Jaden Reed at wide out.
That's super strong. Trey McBride
snagging him in the fourth, and then
Jordan Love with the bag of
money in the seventh.
One of the things I love is that
they loaded up and they've
got four really good wide receivers.
And I like
our wide receivers much more and we have three
awesome running backs so good job guys we got there yeah uh in the wise words that um i tell
my toilet deuces eat it uh you was that enough time yeah we we had enough time we're gonna go ahead and take our rb2 here in the eighth round in giovante williams uh okay all right that's that's that is a that's a good hero
rb pick when you get a guy who is going to have opportunity and there is the the narrative the
path of healing from that injury two years ago where maybe you're getting you know a top 15
running back in uh the the later rounds you got to
take that shot i i don't i don't agree with the bet like i i think they're going to be a really
bad offense and he's going to be what he was last year but it's i probably would have taken the same
running back here just for the potential uh after giovante eckler went which is before
brian robinson so i thought I thought looked good in preseason,
is definitely the guy over Eckler to me.
So Brian Robinson going behind Eckler is interesting.
Chubb went off the board in McConkie.
Just to give a lay of the land for our roster,
we've taken three wideouts in the last four picks.
There are five selections remaining,
and one's going to need to be a quarterback, one a tight end.
Both feel like positions we could wait on right now because i would say
our eyes are on um golf daniels um the the tight end room which the teams between us and our next
pick two of them have a tight end but uh we're down to david nojoku and jake ferguson as players
were like happy to write.
I think in the ninth round, that's where those guys belong.
That's what I was going to say.
Do we wait one round and take those left?
Absolutely, because we don't expect both to go off here at this turn.
So I wouldn't take a tight end here.
And you discussed on the Tips and Tricks episode yesterday about those seventh,
eighth round tight ends
don't usually work. You want to get a value.
If we don't get one of those top guys
it needs to be a 9th round pick or later.
So yeah here
There are a couple rookies
Keon Coleman and Brian Thomas
on the board. At running back
there's some starters Devin Singletary and
Brian Robinson along with
Gus Edwards potentially.
And then you mentioned wanting to see more Tajay Spears that you could pay attention to down in the draft.
Any other names we should be thinking about there?
It's a tough scenario because we're at a point now
where I really like a lot of wide receivers, a little upside.
Coleman, I'm still in on Christian Watson Brian
Thomas Jackson Smith and Jigba is like Jason is man it's the he is such a tough player of
the the excitement for him in his rookie year was through the roof and you did not get any of
you did not get anything back.
I mean, you bought a ticket.
Yeah, he played, but he didn't come with the excitement.
That thing was at 0% on Rotten Tomatoes.
You hated what you were watching, but not necessarily his fault.
So it's just remembering, you know, oh, I was hot for Amari Cooper.
Do we need to remember that we were hot for JSN?
Yeah, and I don't think we mentioned it in the news,
but Tyler Lockett is dealing with a leg injury.
Mike McDonald said.
Oh, come on.
Let's see if you can do it.
Mike McDonald said that the issue isn't too serious,
but we don't have a lot of information,
but that is a path for JSN to rise.
Yeah, I don't mind that pick.
It would be awesome if you had a little index card
that had four McDaniels, McDaniels pictures,
and you could just hold it up and say which one you mean.
That's what I mean.
Like a cheat sheet?
Like a McCheat sheet?
A McCheat sheet.
Because between the Seahawks head coach Mike McDonald,
the Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel,
and both the singer and actor Michael McDonald, my brain is mush.
And you didn't even mention former offensive coordinator head coach
Josh McDaniel.
Don't do it.
And you didn't even mention a 20-piece chicken McNugget.
Oh, yeah.
Sweet and sour?
Some of us conflate coaches with chicken.
Yeah.
All right.
So what do we want to do?
Jason, you can take the pick.
I'm in on one of those wide receivers.
Yeah.
I'm on the wide receiver side, too.
I don't care which one.
Thomas, Jason.
When deciding, I'm taking a look at our current wide receivers.
Jamar Chase, Tank Dell, Calvin Ridley, Rushie Rice.
I think they're all really, really good.
I want high upside.
I think Jackson Smith and Jigba is. I want high upside. I think Jackson,
Smith, and Jigba is a great pick.
That would be my selection.
Jonathan Brooks goes next in Purdy,
Ferguson, Coleman, Hopkins,
and Watson. Now, based on what
Mike just said... Guys, I lied.
Well, no, I mean... I lied.
I wanted Jake Ferguson over
David Njoku. Oh, because you didn't want David Njoku.
Okay. I see those guys as so similar.
I don't mind them.
Do you want to take Njoku here?
Yeah, I think that makes sense.
He's kind of the last one.
After him, you're punting all the way down to Pat Friermuth,
who would be my last pick, like my last round pick,
and I'm fine with that.
But I do think Njoku is a tier above.
All right, we're getting down to the end
here. Singletary and Robinson and Edwards,
the starters, back to back to back.
Those are the only players I was really considering
over Njoku.
Just adding more depth to the running
back room. Sure.
But we took Njoku and those
guys went off the board. The Ducers were probably
considering one of those three as well. Is that true?
Yep. You can't nod. They can'ters were probably considering one of those three as well. Is that true? Yep.
You can't nod. They can't hear you nod, Josh. I'm just talking.
I wish the camera was on because he's like
he's profusely nodding. It was a
sad nod because we wanted Gus Edwards
right here and he literally went
the pick before it got to us. Well, then take
Devin Singletary. No. Well, he's
already gone too.
We're taking the upside guy. Tajay
Spears is off the board for the Ducers.
Seeing some more
quarterbacks go. Caleb Williams, Jamison
Williams, Brian Thomas, Tua,
and then starting the
10th round, Goddard, Benson, Sutton, Zeke.
Ducers back on the
clock after the hot
wide receiver run
that they started the draft with. It's been Love,
Javante, and Spears trying to fill in
those back-end running backs to
accompany Brees Hall.
You were back on the clock at 10.05.
You have all your position players. You can do what you want.
We're going to go Chase Brown.
Yeah, I like that.
In fact, when Zach Moss went off the board at
7.12, I made
a mental note to kind of keep Chase
Brown tucked away.
We ended up with...
Are you going drum solo or
maracas? Maracas.
I will
explain his dance. Also
unable to be picked up on
microphone. I can do it. Thank you, Mike.
Lawrence, Hawkinson
and Goff went off the board. That was his
Jaden Daniels dance. That was his Jaden Daniels dance.
That is my Jaden Daniels dance.
When you look at the quarterbacks, we're drafting very, very, very late here on quarterbacks,
and you're just getting, you're getting hopefully a Kyler Murray rookie season here.
When he was with Cliff Kingsbury finishes the quarterback seven, you know he's an accurate
passer.
He's a great runner.
He has a wonderful value.
I would have taken him over
Caleb Williams a round before
over Trevor Lawrence. I personally
would have taken him over Jared Goff.
Both good options.
I love that we waited and got
Njoku and Jaden Daniels in the
9th and 10th round while loading up
on studs at running back and wide receivers.
Had this been a live
draft,
which the computers sometimes get crazy with their second quarterbacks,
if we could have waited this long, got Jaden and then Jared Goff
on the way back out, I would have been all about that.
Now, it is interesting.
No consideration has been given to Justin Herbert,
who is now drafted in the 11th round.
And I just think that's worth a conversation
because Caleb
Lawrence, Goff and Daniels
there is not
it's a decent chance Herbert
is just fine and fine for
fantasy. Could be. It's
the combination of
not only the offensive concerns that
we've had for the whole offseason of
knowing that the Chargers while they should be a higher-scoring offense,
it'll be very high-T combined with his injury pushing him down to here.
All right, we're back on the clock after the Daniels pick.
We can do what we want because we've got our onesies taken care of.
We're at five wide receivers on the roster.
There are some names that are interesting at that position.
You could, you know, Curtis Samuel with his opportunity in Buffalo.
Adonai Mitchell seems to have an opportunity with injury in Indianapolis.
Khalil Shakir.
Where are you guys real quick on the Buffalo wide receivers?
I take Shakir over Samuel for upside.
Because I've been the offseason of Curtis Samuel.
I'm trying not to let just one preseason thing completely sway,
but it looks like it might be Shakir over.
And this is leaving Keon Coleman out of the equation.
I'm saying between Curtis and Shakir, I think I may have switched to
I'd prefer chasing after Shakir.
He's got a higher yards per
catch which and in this offense with the extension of the play sorry Jason that's why I would go with
him but Jason what do you think yeah I'm still very much in the belief that Curtis Samuel is
better than than Shakir who will be more involved however the type of player that Curtis Samuel is
doesn't really make sense for our roster we're loaded at wide receiver now and we're looking
for high you know potential so you know Shakir makes probably more sense for our roster. We're loaded at wide receiver now, and we're looking for high potential.
So, you know, Shakir makes probably more sense for our roster build
than Curtis Samuel, who's just like a veteran plug and play.
The one thing I'll point out, we only have three running backs.
There's still a starter available.
There are studs.
I'm curious who you think the starter.
Like a full starter.
A full starter.
You're talking about Chuba?
Yeah, Chuba is the starting running back for Carolina.
He was the running back i
believe nine over the back half of the year he's injured right now right this second he is but they
said it was not serious and jonathan brooks will not be playing to start the year just throwing
that out there because to start the year though he wouldn't be in our lineup that's where we've
got a chan and pacheco and walker so he's not going to crack our lineup
until later when jonathan brooks comes back later you might see someone like rico dowdle i know
mike's unbothered form is in the sense of taking over for a really high powered offense in the
cowboys so like i would rather go that way for our build personally i would be, personally, I doubt it would be the guy. But for me, it would go Dowdle, J.K. Dobbins, and then Chuba.
Both of you disrespecting the Chuba.
It's everything Jason said of, this is, I want a player who...
Jonathan Brooks is not going to go.
Week five, he's not the full-time running back.
No, but once he's back, is it just now a mess of multiple running backs?
Just like all the other guys that you were saying.
But for a bad offense, you're choosing between the Panthers or the Cowboys.
I think that there's a chance for both Dowdle and Dobbins,
by the time a couple weeks in the season have passed,
that one of them you can tell they are the guy.
To break it down for the listeners here,
roster construction really matters.
For our team that has three stud running backs,
I would much rather take a guy who could have something happen,
break out later, like a Rico Dowdle.
If I was the Ducers team, I would prefer a Chuba.
You're looking to pick up people off the waivers later, but you
need starters week one.
Well, they'll get their shot. I took Dowdle for you,
Mike, and then Anthony Mitchell goes at
11-05, Charbonnet, Curtis Samuel
with the Deucers back on the clock.
Real quick to put a bow on that, the Carolina Panthers
opening schedule
is the Saints, the Chargers,
the Raiders, the Bengals, the
Bears. Like this is, that's going to be tough for the running back.
All right, Deucers, you've got two picks left.
They went with Khalil Shakir.
Okay.
Fryermuth, Jacoby, Komet, and Mike Williams rounding out the second
to last round.
And then Joshua Palmer, I was going to bring his name up.
Sure.
But I did not.
Chuba goes at 12-02.
Kirk Cousins, Kendra Miller, and the Ducers have a final selection
to add to their roster, which they will be doing in just a minute.
Be with you in a moment, everybody.
You can make the pick, Josh.
This is why in school they make someone the leader of the group.
Right.
Because if they all do it no one does
it and josh is still not taking his pick take your pick josh oh that's a good fine that's a
really good pick i like it i would like to have this last pick i don't care go ahead uh jalen
wright off the board and rogers goes in this round dobbins is gone jason you can i'm gonna take a guy
that we all believed in going into last year and no one believes in
going into this year. But if
Jaden Daniels has a great
season and is a really
good quarterback, which is our quarterback, and you're
drafting for things to go right.
Don't click it. I don't like it. Just hold on a second.
Hold on, who is it? It's Jahan Dotson.
It's Jahan Dotson. He played
too much preseason.
Way too much preseason to feel good about.
Dotson! Dotson! We've got Dotson here!
I was actually more encouraged by what was happening in the preseason for Dotson.
And then, literally this morning, there was another report of Washington
still looking for their wide receiver, too.
It's not good, dude. It's not good.
It's your pick.
I'm not.
Last round pick.
He played like the whole game or something.
Your last round pick, you're hoping that you know week one immediately
because do I have something here or is this the guy I get to cut
for the week one waiver superstars?
Okay.
Well, I got to make the pick.
All right.
Go ahead.
Dontavian Wicks.
Yeah, okay.
I'm in.
I'm back in, baby. I love Dontavian Wicks. Yeah, okay. I'm in. I'm back in, baby.
I love Dontavian Wicks.
You know, when you're at the last round, scroll down.
Scroll down further and make sure that you're looking at all the names.
All right.
Why don't you run our team back for the listeners, Jason,
and one of the deucers that can play Paper Rock Scissors while you read it
and figure out who's going to read their team.
So at quarterback and tight end, we've got Jayden Daniels and David Njoku
happy with those late round options.
At wide receiver, Jamar Chase,
Tank Dell, Calvin
Ridley, Rushie Rice,
JSN, and Dontavian Wicks
loaded with six of those guys.
And then at running back, Devon Achan, Isaiah
Pacheco, Ken Bonewalker,
and Rico Dowdle.
I love our team. I like that team.
Oh, yeah.
I like this team.
I assume Al's going to read the team back here.
Yeah, I'll read it here. We got
Jordan Love throwing the football for us,
Trey McBride at tight end. We've got Brees Hall,
Javante Williams, Tajay Spears,
Chase Brown, and Jalen Wright at running
back. And our wide receivers are
Chris Olave, Debo Samuel, Amari Cooper, Jaden Reed, and Khalil Shakir.
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