Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Mock Draft Battle! Ballers vs Ducers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/15

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

A special mock draft on today’s fantasy football podcast! Andy, Mike, and Jason join forces in a mock draft battle against The Ducers! On-the-clock decisions and fantasy football draft strategy for ...2024! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for August 15th, 2024. 2024 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT is available now at UltimateDraftKit.com (00:00) - Intro (08:55) - NFL News (20:53) - Mock Draft Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://www.USAA.com/Insurance  Mock Draft presented by Sleeper. Use promo code BALLERS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:17 Gotcha, suckers. Gotcha good. I was going to say, like, the My Guys episode is one of the next two, and today we're doing a mock draft. Well, there was – I don't know if you followed, Andy. There was quite the hullabaloo on Twitter because both Jason and I were under the impression that My Guys was today. Oh, you actually thought it was?
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah, I genuinely thought it was. At the beginning of yesterday's episode, I thought it was. So we tweeted out – every year we tweet out giving people a chance to guess. You're like, what are our three My Guys? Oh, no, I did the same thing. Yeah, but except you didn't read our tweets when we said, My Guys is tomorrow. Oh, you did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And then. I got a DM from Brooks being like, mid-show yesterday saying, hey, the My Guys show is not until Friday. And I was like, hey, the My Guys show is not until Friday. And I was like, whatever, I got to go. I had my timer to edit my tweet. I got in with like a minute left, so I changed mine to Friday. So mine was saying it was Friday. His was saying Thursday.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And the people were absolutely bamboozled. Well, they are just on the edge of their seat. I'm really disappointed that I didn't change all of our show titles for the entire week to mock draft with a question mark. I mean, sorry, my guys with a question mark in front of it. Is it today? It will be tomorrow. I tweeted the same thing, people guessing are my guys,
Starting point is 00:03:36 and I gave a big hint about my my guys. Yeah, you basically gave yours away, bro. Did people get it? Some people got it, but they're not my my guys anymore. Oh, yeah. I did see you. You sent out a tweet of I said you were changing. I just said, you know, sources are telling me that some things may be moving and changing.
Starting point is 00:03:57 And, you know, are you the source? I am the source. I am both sources. Is that allowed? You can be your own. Can you put out and just like i've got sources telling me that this is happening but actually you're the source the whole time um i think that happens a lot like from bad reporters i just it looks some injuries say
Starting point is 00:04:19 it was a good source some injuries have taken place yeah and. And, you know. Do I even know? I know that like big decisions in life, right? Like if you decide that you're going to get married and you decide this is the person I'm going to be with the rest of my life. And then your bride gets hurt right before the wedding. And you're like, I'm out. You're too frail. Pivot. Sometimes you pivot is what I.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah, you get cold feet. Availability is an ability. I'm just saying're out like on the get out of here tina in the grand scheme of things the my guy decision is so much bigger than your like a marriage right is is kind of my point yeah so you just got to make sure you get it right yeah because these ones are for life oh any any former my guys you wish you could uh annul the marriage my wife there's been a few is some exes yeah you don't want no one to remember um oh gosh what what was that is this true no yeah that's a true story dude that's no no no that's elite no hey look you this is true so my god this is the worst podcast we'll read it i don't feel like i can't read it well welcome foot clan to the fantasy footballers
Starting point is 00:05:42 if you're new stick with us We do get into fantasy football content. We try to do a great job at it, but sometimes we just have fun. And we're going to be going up head-to-head today in the mock draft against our stupid producers. Ballers v. Ducers. And one of them, the baby, the Falcon Taker. Oh, man, he is embarrassed. The Dump Truck is about to get exposed here in a way that you will enjoy. Mike, take it away.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So I just found this out that at some time recently, Matt, a.k.a. the Falcon, a.k.a. Poopy Pants McGee, disclosed that he previously would take a date to an escape room as a test to see how they, like, can they handle the pressure? Can they solve these puzzles? Because he wants an intellectual match. And if they can't escape, he's out. That's brutal. You did not pass the test?
Starting point is 00:06:42 Is that what the story is? No. It's like a wonderlick for your date? They didn't pass the test is that what the is that what the story is no it's like a wonder for your date they didn't pass the test it's like a compatibility test you know yeah no i i look i totally get it man and what happens then what happens if you're the one who can't figure out the puzzles they leave me yeah all right i like the idea that they're in two separate rooms and when if they don't both come out at i mean, whoever comes out first just drives away. Oh, man. So, yeah, I'm also reacting to some very fresh news that we'll get into that's going to make tomorrow all the worse.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Before we jump into it, like the mock draft is going to be amazing today. It's been a while since the three of us got to combine on a team and we get to compete against the deuces and explain some of the process. And we're getting so close to regular real drafts. In fact, I'm in two drafts right now in a, not league of record, but like some other leagues.
Starting point is 00:07:37 So it's happening. And, um, which means we have like the most recent informational middle of the preseason ADP data to go off of. But, I mean, tomorrow's a big day for more than just the my guys. Tomorrow afternoon, we will be bestowing. Yeah, a UDK for life will be given away tomorrow afternoon
Starting point is 00:08:05 along with a signed Justin Jefferson jersey. So for the rest of your natural life, you could have championships, which seems like something great. It seems like something I'd want. And the winners will be chosen and announced live on the YouTube channel on the live stream. And to enter to win, you just have to have purchased a UDK or a UDK Plus before the live stream, which means if you bought it in the past,
Starting point is 00:08:32 you're entered to win. We're super excited to be with you tomorrow afternoon on the live stream. And hop on the live stream with us. We're going to answer. If you've got a question for your upcoming drafts, you want to get a direct line to us. Hop in. See if you can get your question answered and then see if you're the winner of the ultimate draft kit, which you will already be a winner if you're even in the contest because you will have an ultimate draft kit.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Two things. One, you go to ultimate draft kit dot com to check that out. Two, I have you know, we're busy. This is August. This is a busy time of year. And we've got, you know, Papa Josh and the Falcon. They handle some customer service questions that come through the support channel. I have jumped in here and there, and I did answer one question about whether you could be Queeth, the UDK.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And what was the official answer? The answer I chose to give in that moment was that yes, if it is a written will with a feather pin. That's totally fair. You have to use a quill. Yeah, you have to use a quill and ink. And none of that built-in ink quill. That is not real. That's a dipper.
Starting point is 00:09:38 That's a dip. It's a dip in bequeath. Yeah. Okay. Official. Stamped. We still get to do this show? Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:44 We do. Are we good? Are we good, Al? We're doing good, man. All right, let's jump into some news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Giants rookie Malik Nabors, full practice today. This is something I really wanted to see after the injury,
Starting point is 00:10:06 that he'd be back out on the field this week. In fact, there's a chance he plays in the preseason game. That is great news. Makes you really not concerned of a lingering long-term issue. So however you viewed him before the injury is probably how you should view him going forward. But it's also worth reminding yourselves and ourselves what mike brought up yesterday of how how difficult it is
Starting point is 00:10:31 for a top fantasy producer to come from a bottom just lots lots to think about yeah lots of consideration for whoever he needs he needs extreme volume which i which all reports at a camp are that is what he is getting in joint practices and everything. So that's the hope is that his talent is so elite and he'll see a 28-plus percent target share. And if he gets that, then maybe things are okay. Yeah, man. Glad he's back out there.
Starting point is 00:11:04 They also signed former running back of the chargers josh kelly yeah it's probably it's a camp body i would imagine because of tracy's injury tracy's injury and then uh jameer gibbs what's the latest we're hearing that he should be ready for week one despite the kind of wishy-washy quote yesterday from Dan Campbell, the reports have gotten more positive. I don't view this as any different, to be honest. When I read the full reporting, it felt more like they were taking the quotes of we think he's going to be fine to just say he should be ready by week one. So I'm still holding my breath.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I was trying to remember when you were talking about neighbors and how bad the Giants were and just the fact that, like, they were a – the Bengals, when they drafted Chase, were a 4-11 team or a 4- – Well, that was also coming off – The math didn't add up there. But they were a bad team. Right, but that was also the year –
Starting point is 00:12:00 was that when Joe Burrow was coming off of his ACL? No, I think – Let me look that up. It was just that the team changed from being one of the worst offensive teams very quickly. And, yes, Burrow was a piece of that puzzle too. We don't have the Burrow in New York. Christian Kirk, minor calf injury to Christian Kirk.
Starting point is 00:12:18 What do we think about that? He's not a spring chicken. We don't like to see it. It's also been interesting in preseason. He hasn't necessarily been in two wide receiver sets, so I'm starting to get a little bit more worried about the – like I have loved drafting Christian Kirk because of the perceived floor of just being like he is the clear-cut number one target for an offense
Starting point is 00:12:39 that I don't think is going to be a top five offense, but it should be pretty good. It should be a top half offense, but it should be pretty good. It should be a top half offense. And if you've got a clear number one late in drafts, but if he's not on the field in two wide receiver sets and he's dealing with a minor calf in draft, bump them down a little bit. And on top of that, Andy, your boy, Brian Thomas Jr.,
Starting point is 00:12:59 the drumbeat has been – it started off pretty rough for him, like all the reports, but in the last week to two weeks, The drumbeat has been – it started off pretty rough for him, like all the reports, but in the last week to two weeks, it has really been escalating that he's starting to figure it out. He's making plays. He's making people look silly. So he was already in the spot of, I'm good taking a rookie wide receiver here no matter what their situation is because the ADP is good.
Starting point is 00:13:26 It's where they used to be, right? Late round picks. Yeah, the risk-reward was usually a fantastic scenario. Now we've got these other guys who are way up there. But Thomas is in an area where I think you should get some exposure. Yeah, it seems similar to kind of a cheaper Green Bay Packers situation where you've got, like, I think Jaden Reed, the better wide receiver, but you worry about the ceiling versus Christian Watson, a complete unknown.
Starting point is 00:13:52 But you go the athleticism, the traits, that one period where he scored touchdowns at will. That's like if you want to take the rocket fuel chance, that's Brian Thomas Jr. All right, Matthew Stafford, you hate to see this because the fragility of the Rams fantasy prospects, it's always right in your face with Matthew Stafford. He did not finish
Starting point is 00:14:16 practice. McVay said he was experiencing hamstring tightness. Wait, I thought it was his back. No, no, no. It was hamstring. McVay just said yeah unfortunately it tightened up on him you don't like to hear this um just because the prospects of the entire you know cup Puka Kyron take you know if you take it's a massive hit I mean if if if Stafford misses time uh maybe later in the season when Jimmy Garoppolo comes back from suspension, okay,
Starting point is 00:14:47 they've got a serviceable backup. As of right now, I believe it's Stetson Bennett. I forgot he was suspended for BEDs, right? Yeah. Oh, that guy. You don't get that handsome naturally. What happens when the drugs don't enhance your performance? They must be enhancing your looks.
Starting point is 00:15:01 What about, like about neutral performance drugs? Are those legal? Yeah, those are vitamins. Honestly, I swore I saw something about back yesterday. Maybe I just quickly read through it. Back is way worse to me. If Stafford has a back issue, then that'll be red flags. If it's a hamstring,'m okay i have not seen anything
Starting point is 00:15:26 about it okay deuces if you know it was i read the thing directly from mcveigh yeah yeah i'm saying when it initially came out maybe and again maybe i just probably probably just last night that's not good no jj mccarthy underwent a full meniscus repair out for the entire season. This stinks, man, for Vikings fans, for J.J. McCarthy. And J.J. McCarthy comes out, looks awesome in his first preseason game. He leaves that game, to my knowledge, he wasn't injured. It was just, wow, I'm so happy with his performance. He looks great.
Starting point is 00:16:02 He's going to take over for the sacrificial baby even earlier than expected. And then all of a sudden, he's out for the season. It certainly changes things. Yeah, what's your take on Jefferson? And we got a lump Addison in here as well. Let's just combo that news because he, right after the J.J. McCarthy news came out, news broke Jordan Addison just went down uh trying to sky up for a ball ends up getting carted off and it's holy crap you know you never want to hear carted off but that has been turned into it's just a minor ankle injury
Starting point is 00:16:40 but it's still an injury so where are you at just overall with the Vikings office because this is big stuff happening I would not be surprised if it is neutral to positive for the wide receiver crew even though J.J. McCarthy looked great he's still a rookie and rookies don't throw a lot of touchdowns now I don't think Sam Darnold's gonna yeah I was gonna say like let's let's just bring it into the like D.J. Moore was not um a weapon with sam darnold right like i mean this is i think we have you can see it go either way like we have different views on this because you guys both kind of of the opinion and i like your point mike you said this uh on a social post yesterday you will have consistency you will not have this period of the season which is annoying where you're like are they going to make the change are they not going to make the change like if you get some trends
Starting point is 00:17:24 with sam darn at least you know that that's what you're going to continue to get but I don't like it I personally think that J.J. McCarthy is going to be a better higher ceiling opportunity for these players yeah long term I definitely agree with that though what we know though though, is at least last year, and look, Kevin O'Connell teams, they throw a lot. Even when Kirk Cousins went down and they had quarterbacks who were quality of backup to backup. Like these are third string guys out there taking starts for the Minnesota Vikings. They were still throwing a ton.
Starting point is 00:18:01 So at least efficiency might struggle with Sam D Darnold but volume will be there um what do you got going here yeah I mean you know something I probably should have looked into even earlier but it look we're live here and we're we're doing it live I didn't remember because we've had two years off from Sam Darnold who was a very highly drafted prospect and people have still believed in and they've said you know he's he, he's a good backup and he's going to be fine as a starter. He was the starter right now for the Vikings already. I forgot how bad he was. Here's his touchdown, because I'm like, okay, rookies are going to come and what are they going to throw? Are they going to throw for 20 touchdowns and ruin your fantasy output? Here are Sam Darnold's career passing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Rookie year 17. Sophomore year 19. Then the next two years, he was still the starter, didn't play the full seasons. I'm going to give you his 17-game pace, a full-season pace for those seasons. 12 and 13. Full-season pace on passing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yeah. So, Andy, you on passing touchdowns. Yeah. So, Andy, you're 100% right. Yeah, it's a concern. It's a real concern for me. Whether you throw the ball a lot, we saw Sam Howell. They threw the ball more than anybody in football. Did that make Terry McLaurin, Jahan Dotson, those guys super weapons? And Sam Howell wasn't a super weapon in fantasy either. I mean, volume, yes, Kevin O'Connell throws it a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:27 But I want skill and talent. But this is what we've got. Yeah, no, it is now. But I would not be shocked at all if Minnesota, now that they know that McCarthy is out for the year, if we don't see a splashy veteran name arrive on this team not named Josh Dobbs. They're going to go out and sign Matt Ryan?
Starting point is 00:19:50 P. River back out of retirement? I don't know about those, but I think somebody in the Matt Ryan. Somebody in the Winston and the Oh, Jameis, go get him, baby. Oh, Jameis. That's a great name. Don't forget, Sam Darnold saw ghosts on the field before.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Get Jameis out there, man. Let him throw for 5K again. Let's do this. That I would be excited about. Look, I'm sorry, Vikings fans. It's not been great as of late. It even further concerns me about Aaron Jones, just from an offensive perspective,
Starting point is 00:20:30 all the stuff you highlighted on the top 10 tips and tricks. Yeah, I mean, Minnesota, when I was doing that study of looking at bottom 10 offenses, trying to project them anyways, it's hard to not put Minnesota in there, and that was before the J.J. McCarthy injury. They were like a fringe team where I didn't – they could surprise. I think it would be middle of the pack, but bottom 10 is in their range of outcomes.
Starting point is 00:20:50 All right. There's been a lot of news, a lot of little injuries. Also, Chuba Hubbard and Tyler Lockett both dealing with injuries not considered to be serious, but pay attention to those. That was today's News & Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. We are going to take a break and come back with a live deuces versus ballers mock draft.
Starting point is 00:21:18 All right, we're going to dive right into it. And a quick reminder on the other side of the break, we will be live in Los Angeles for our 10th anniversary Megalith show in less than two weeks. Tickets available at ballerslive.com if you're in the area, if you're willing to drive to the area. Yes. I mean, Sleeper is presenting this show, and they're doing this mock draft.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Get out there, ballerslive.com. We want to see you. There you.com we want to see you there you go i want to give you the fantasy footballers mock draft i mean i i put a period it sounded like you put a period at the end of your sentence it's a pump fake man that's all me it was a it was a fake handoff i was dropping back to pass and i I got sacked. You did get sacked. That was unfair. I think you were going to say that you want to see them there. I was going to say I want to give them a fist bump.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Okay. But, you know. That's a good toss-in. Important. And one. All right. We are diving into a live mock draft here on this show. Taking on the Ducers over there in Ducer's Alley,
Starting point is 00:22:26 who look like they are super prepared. We've got the Falcons smirking. Al with kind of an unsettled confidence and then... I think is that a scowl from Papa Josh? A scowl from the... Oh, not from the Al. It's hard to tell over the shine. He actually
Starting point is 00:22:42 doesn't know what's going on. We are jumping right in. It's hard to tell over the shine. He actually doesn't know what's going on. We are jumping right in. It's a 12-team half PPR mock draft. We're going to spread it out wide. Trips. Got three wide outs, two running backs, one quarterback, one tight end, one flex, four bench spots.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And we randomly selected some spots. We ended up at four. The Deucers at pick eight. Okay. Away spots we ended up at four the deuces at pick eight okay away we go Tyree Kale goes off the board first I don't mind it no it makes a ton of sense especially in three wide CeeDee Lamb also makes sense at two is Christian McCaffrey gonna drop to us no McCaffrey's off the board at three and we are on the clock at 104 and and you know you're gonna have to reorient your mind we are not enemies we're not mortal enemies on this show we're actually friends we're friends
Starting point is 00:23:29 we need to draft a better team than the deuces that's obvious that's easy well you know just be careful so obviously i think i i assume we all agree this is a three-way decision not between us but between three players you got Bijan and Brees at running back and you got Jamar Chase at wide receiver right that's who we're looking at is there anyone else in the conversation here at four I'm always fine with somebody considering Elman Ra in the same conversation as Jamar Chase but um yeah but we don't have to do that uh Mike where would you like to go? Man, there still is elite wide receivers on the board,
Starting point is 00:24:11 and having to play three, it changes things. But, man, playing hero running back here, I think is the direction I would start this. I like playing hero running back. If you don't know what that is, hero running back is a like playing hero running back if you don't know what that is hero running back is a version of zero running back where you do draft one of if you get one of the studs one of the heroes which basically this year right now feels like only three options Christian McCaffrey Bijan and Brees then you're going to go away from running back for a while load up on wide
Starting point is 00:24:41 receivers or even your onesie positions um I think that's a good strategy in a three wide um because you know you still need running backs but uh it's tough I mean to me I'm between I like Bijan more than Brees and I love Jamar Chase in a three wide so if you don't want to have that strategy if we yeah I'm fine with Chase here I Mike and I are on the Brees side you're on the Bijan side but we're all on the Chase side, I think. I don't know if it makes a difference. I'm looking at, like, you know, sleepers' picks. Their week one lines, we got Jamar Chase at 83.5 receiving yards,
Starting point is 00:25:16 Bichon at 71 rushing yards. Get off to a hot start. Does that sway you towards Chase? I mean, that doesn't, but I'll tell you. I was already swayed. i was pre-swayed so we're chasing it yeah we'll go chase i love it oh we'll go chase nope nope ty goes to the runner jamar chase at 104 so stupid b john robinson goes off the board at 105 and then jefferson and amon raw i. I have seen Jefferson rising in just anecdotal.
Starting point is 00:25:48 My participation in mocks and real drafts, I have seen Jefferson going up. He is brutal. I don't mean as a reaction to the Darnold news, just in general, even before that happened. He's the best wide receiver in football. Yeah, that's a good headline for him. I believe it's a bad pick.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I really do uh there's so there I know that he is when when does he become a good pick like the one two turn maybe uh I I guess really it's it's a matter of who he's going ahead of or behind like I would never take him personally ahead of Amon Ross St. Brown or A.J. Brown any of the Browns none none, none of them. Well, Hollywood, I would definitely take it. So I guess, I guess we can't do that. All right. The deuces on the clock here.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And, um, I don't know who's going to be the, like the project leader, you know, when you're in school and you got to do the project with a group, but then somebody has to present, uh, which one of the deuces is making this pick. We're going to start with me. Okay. Uh, that's we're hoping Amon Rob would fall but he did not he went right before us so we're gonna go ahead and take breeze hall right here yeah you got an easy layup of a pick that stinks are you gonna have a way to kind of you're gonna disclaim all of our picks yeah that's
Starting point is 00:27:00 gonna say you're gonna have a way to like make all of their picks kind of like invalid if i if i need to but i think they're gonna do it themselves Yeah, I was going to say, you're going to have a way to make all of their picks kind of invalid. If I need to, but I think they're going to do it themselves. All right, Brees haul off the board. It was an option for us. I think if we had gone running back, it would have been majority rules on Brees there. So you get them four picks later. AJ Brown goes next.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Jameer Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor, Saquon Barkley rounding out the first round. In fact, that is another trend I am noticing is the Saquon above Kyron situation. I'm seeing that a lot. Garrett Wilson starting the second round. Pukunukua, Etienne, and then Marvin Harrison at 204 here. I'm never going back to the past. Okay. That is a deep cut.
Starting point is 00:27:47 It's going back to the NFL draft when our Arizona Cardinals drafted Marvin I love you, Marv. And Mike exclaimed that he would never wear pants again. He was that excited. So not going back to the pants store. What? You didn't get him. I know.
Starting point is 00:28:04 You didn't get him. No, I'm celebrating that the Deucers did not get him. Fair enough. The Deucers are back on the clock at 205. Brees hauling the first round. What do we got going on? What's the thought process? Also, who are you drafting?
Starting point is 00:28:19 The thought process is a lot of the guys we were looking at went off the board. Obviously, Kyron would be a great pick here, but we don't know that we want to double up on our Bs in a three-wide receiver roster. So I think we're going to reach just a touch and go for Christopher Olave. Or is it Christian? It's Christian Olave. No, he drafted Christopher Olave, who is a postman in Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:28:43 You don't want to mess with the postman. Drake London goes next. So Brees Hall and Chris Olave at your first two picks. Drake London Drake London at 206. Derek Henry at 207. Kyron at 208. Kyron almost fell to 209. That
Starting point is 00:29:01 would have been our layup pick if Kyron had fallen since we went wide receiver and grabbed Jamar. Kyron is still in that next tier of elites to me. I still think there's just one pick jumping off the page to me. We went chase. I thought we'd be okay. Now we're going to have a quick turn. We're going to come right back.
Starting point is 00:29:22 But to me, there's one guy i agree that i believe should be drafted here i agree i know who jason wants i don't know who andy wants to pick devon achin oh man okay that is who i want yeah that that would be the pick for me now just to lay give you a lay of the land at wide receiver davante adams is still there if If Adams was there at 3-0-4, I think that would be a strong pick and a three wide in terms of value. Debo, Ayuk, those guys are there. We've had a lot of wideouts go off the board. Kyrie would have been a neat steal here.
Starting point is 00:29:56 But I'm comfortable with A-Chan. Put A-Chan through. Yeah, I have made the transition to being fully comfortable with him as my running back. One, it is risky. It is a gamble. But you're playing to win. You're not playing to just, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:09 be a decent team that maybe squeaks in the playoffs and loses week one. So, A-chan, so far so good on the, like, you know, we're agreeing with one another. Dude, I got my golden ticket. I'm ready. Oh, boy. If I need to sway you, I've still got a golden ticket i'm ready if if i need to sway you i've still got a golden ticket good for one free andy holloway agreement we'll just make sure
Starting point is 00:30:29 mike's on your side for that otherwise it's going to be a real waste oh that's true i don't want to waste your golden ticket chase and h and our first two selections drafting from the fourth spot the deucers have breeze hall and chris olave travis kelsey goes next off the board at 210 a little bit early for where i would be comfortable taking that shot 100 um but jacobs at 211 adams at 212 josh allen the first quarterback at 301 iuka nico collins um we narrowly avoided mike hard selling us nico collins at4. I feel like it would have been an easy sell. If Nico was here, that probably would have been my pick. Now, we just had a tight-end episode where I said I was comfortable
Starting point is 00:31:12 with Laporta at the 301. This would be the 304, just bringing it up. I know you guys are not going to be on board for that. I'm not going to push you too hard. But I don't mind that advantage at this point in a draft i might mind it a little more in a three wide though where you have an extra spot to fill yeah and that does change the equation so i'm not going to push there but at running back looking at names that i know we have some agreement on pacheco james cook joe Mixon for some stability. I talked yesterday about dynamic duos.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I'm not sure it gets better than the Mixon-A-Chan combo as far as a floor-and-ceiling running back duo, and then James Conner still there. At wideout, we all like Debo. We have him ranked very high, and he is way below where we would have him in terms of what running back or wide out off the board. Jalen Waddell, Mike, you're a big fan. The question becomes, are you good starting with A-chan and Jalen Waddell?
Starting point is 00:32:15 I was really hoping Nico would drop so we didn't have to make that decision because I get it if you don't want to overload with the Miami Dolphins with your second and third pick. I do like Debo, and I get the three wide, but right now, out of this group, I would push for Isaiah Pacheco. I mean, you just named him. To me, it's Pacheco or Debo Samuel. I love both players.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I think both players are undervalued. Being the fact that we are in a three wide, I think that would tie break for me for the Debo side. I love Pacheco. I would be 100% fine with either one of these guys. Where do you have Pacheco? I'll have to look that up. I think he's about 10, 9 or 10.
Starting point is 00:32:56 He's in my top 10, and Debo is outside of my top 12 wide receivers. Consensus-wise, Debo is our wide receiver 7. I was going to say, yeah, we just did that show. I remember he was at seven. Yeah. We have him very high. Mike, you have him very high. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:09 You've got him at 13. I've got him at nine. Andy at nine. But that consensus-wise puts him up. Because there's a lot of disagreement on the wide receivers at this point in the draft. Well, let's play this out for the sake of the audience, what I think the two outcomes could be. If we went with Debo Samuel and we felt like we needed to come back and stabilize the running back position,
Starting point is 00:33:28 we're probably going to be in the James Connor, Ramondre, Swift category, maybe with a chance at Alvin Kamara. If you flip it the other direction, we go Pacheco, you're probably talking about Cooper Cup, who I like, Michael Pittman,
Starting point is 00:33:44 a stabilizer, Devontae Smith, Tank Dell, DJ Moore. I don't want to take Dink. Take Dink? I don't want to take Tank. You don't want to take Tank? I'd rather take him at
Starting point is 00:34:00 5.04 and take that shot at ADP. But anyway. I will say that is a really good thing to do if you're listening and you're trying to decide between a running back and a wide receiver. Look at who's going to be there next because that convinced me to switch to the Pacheco side. I feel like I like those wide receivers a lot more than those running backs.
Starting point is 00:34:16 You guys want to do that? Yes. Okay. Pacheco off the board. I'm loving this team. Jalen Hurts goes 305. Sam Laporta at 306. Okay. Mike Evans off the board. Deucers are on the clock. Brees Hall was the first round pick. Chris Olave their
Starting point is 00:34:33 second round pick. I can see Jason shaking his head because he thinks that the Deucers are just going to quick draw on Debo. I don't know if that's a... They did. They took Debo Samuel with just going to quick draw on Debo. Yeah, but no. I don't know if that's a – okay, they did. They did.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Yeah, they took Debo Samuel with no need to explain. Waddle was our other guy we were considering there. Yeah, I mean, it's good. Your team is actually – I mean, I don't want to compliment anything you guys do. However, it's working out very well. The fact that we were considering Brees Hall at the 104 and you got him picks later, and we were considering Derees Hall at the 104 and you got him picks later, and we were considering Debo at the 304 and you got him picks later,
Starting point is 00:35:09 you're getting good value. Now, you guys must listen to our show a lot. Yeah, I mean, I hope. Seven wideouts have gone off the board. One thing to consider when I was playing out both scenarios was the fact that three wide more wide outs might go cup is gone Waddle's gone DJ Moore who I love is gone and then digs and neighbors so deuces back on the clock I think I've given them enough time to make the wrong decision
Starting point is 00:35:41 yeah I mean they don't need a lot of time to make a dumb pick. The truth is, I'm still happy with several wide receivers. I mean, I'll say that and then it will all be wide receivers, but there's a handful of guys I really like here. So, I think we're set up okay. Alright, what's your pick? Trey McBride, baby.
Starting point is 00:36:00 It's funny. They went Trey McBride and I was going to bring the name up if he got back to us as a as a option at 409 Chase Achan and Pacheco our first three off the board oof Jason is looking around tell us what you're thinking is this because James Cook made it back uh no that that is interesting but uh he's looking around because he wants to take Tank Dell as our wide receiver, too. You mentioned earlier, Andy, you want to play the ADP game, wait until the fifth. What we've seen in this draft is because it is three wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:36:32 not the 2-2 and a flex, it's 3-2 and a flex, where the wide receivers have all been pushed up. You talked about Michael Pittman or Cooper Kopp or Devontae Smith making it back to us. None of them did. And there's six picks between our next pick, and we're currently with one wide receiver. So to me, we've got to take a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Mark Andrews? I mean, I think the value is there. Dalton Kincaid? But if you look at, yeah, you've got two good tight ends, and obviously both could go to Team 1 and Team 2. Team 3 already has a tight end, so we could end up with either one of them at our next pick at wide receiver there's tank dell and t higgins are really the only guys left cooper yeah i i've cooled on him a little bit but i i gotta remember how hot i was
Starting point is 00:37:16 for amari cooper this offseason well you've cooled but you were you were really hot so what's your temperature is it still above average? Are you feverish? It's like a... Low grade? I think some people call it a low grade. It's 99.9. But I would not call that a fever.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Thank you. It's not. Some people say, that's a low grade fever. No, it's not. Just be tougher. Do you feel good? I feel totally fine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I got a little bit of the sweats. But most of my sweats are for Tank Del. I mean, this draft is working out well for me. So I like it. But what do you guys think? I mean, you can go Tank Dell and come back with probably Alvin Kamara in the next round if you wanted to. Or one of those tight ends.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Mike, I have not heard from you. I need you to weigh in here because Jason's got a low-grade fever and I don't trust what he's saying. It's tough. Tank Dell would be my highest-ranked wide receiver that I would be going with. The fact that James Cook – Do you have him ahead of T. Higgins?
Starting point is 00:38:16 Let me just double-check. Yeah, yes. Higgins should probably not be a consideration for a Chase team anyway. Right, right, right. I'm good with Tank Dell, but the fact that James Cook made it back is – I know it's three wide, but having H.M. Pacheco and James Cook, all guys who I have a strong conviction can and should finish as top 12 running backs, it's hard to bypass that.
Starting point is 00:38:46 With Cook being here, in hindsight, I would have rather taken Debo and then come back with James Cook. Right, for sure. But we didn't. And if I compare Pacheco and Tank Dell to Debo and James Cook, I'm just as happy with that. I would take Tank Dell here and then see if we get lucky with Cook or Mixon or Walker or
Starting point is 00:39:05 Kamara coming back to us. James Cook will definitely not make it back. If we're sitting here, though, and saying that wide receivers are going to go off the board more often, there's a chance that we get Andrews and Kincaid off the board and a quarterback and a wideout,
Starting point is 00:39:22 which would make it a fun gamble. Let's give it a shot. After Dell was James Cook, Zay Flowers, Joe Mixon, T. Higgins, Camara, and then Stroud. So we are back. If we want to go running back, we've lost the names I really liked. Cook, Mixon.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Ken Bone Walker's still there, guys. Yeah, Cook, Mixon, and Camara. I mean, Ken Walker's great. Ken Bone Walker's still there, guys. Yeah, Cook, Mixon, and Kamara. I mean, Ken Walker's great. Omari Cooper's still on the board. It is three wide pickings. Yeah, and you have both tight ends. You could take Mark Andrews here in the fifth round. This is probably time to take Mark Andrews.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I think so. I've talked about I like leaving the draft with one of the top five. Mark Andrews is, I think, two of our number two tight ends overall. You've gotten guys that you like, though, Jay, so I'm going to let Mike make the pick and he can decide if he wants Kim Bone Walker or Mark
Starting point is 00:40:15 Bone Andrews. Did you guys see he was in a wreck? Yeah, a car yesterday. They said the wreck was really bad and yet Mark Andrews supermanned it? Like when Cam Newton flipped a truck and just walked away? So hopefully Mark is actually okay over there. It's your pick, Mike.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I don't care what you do. I'm going to officially say I don't care what you do either. You don't care what I do? No. You live your best life. Okay. KB Dub. I lied. I lied.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I lied. I was really wanting Mark Andrews there. Ken Walker on the board. I need people to get on board with Ken Walker. He's going to be great. So you took him as kind of a lead the parade? Yeah. Well, Kincaid, Pickens, and Andrews went the next three picks, which at least I mean, I guess the Deucers already had McBride, so we weren't going to hand off
Starting point is 00:41:03 Mark Andrews to them, but the Deucers have Breeshaw, Olave,ucers already had McBride, so we weren't going to hand off Mark Andrews to them. But the Deucers have Breeshaw, Olave, Debo, and McBride. So I'm guessing that they're staring down that running back spot, but maybe not. Maybe they like the value. So looking at the decision for us, like between Walker and Mark Andrews, I hate that I hate this section of wide receivers. Like I get it with Amari Cooper.
Starting point is 00:41:28 The numbers make sense. The numbers 100 make sense, and the offense should be good. And yet I still don't really want to draft Amari Cooper. And Keenan Allen has got a rookie quarterback, and Kirk's got his injury, and Terry's got a rookie quarterback. This section of wide receivers is. And Keenan just feels he hit 300 on the scale. He did it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:49 300 pounds on the scale. That is the dumbest storyline of my life. I watched the second episode of Hard Knocks. Keenan looks totally normal. He wasn't eating the whole time. He was not eating the entire episode. Was that episode brought to you by five guys? In fact, you know who was eating was DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:42:06 He was at the ice cream shop. Mad props to DJ Moore. Mad props to DJ Moore. All right. It is really stupid. We're going to take a break and then come back with the Deucer's Pick. All right. Hopefully we iced the kicker by taking the break.
Starting point is 00:42:27 You know what I mean? Like too overthinking. Like I think there's a chance. Way to call time out there. They go Bucky Irving here. But Doozers, what are we doing? Amari Cooper. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I mean, we are riding super dirty here. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What? That's your fault. No, I know. I wanted Debo. I know. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I wanted Andrews. We are. Well, Andrews is not a wide receiver. When we said we didn't care, Mike, we cared. I think we're okay on wide receiver. Maybe you should use your words better. No, no, no. We cared to have somebody to blame.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Amari Cooper, then Keenan Allen, then DeAndre Swift, Aaron Jones, and George Kittle round out the fifth round. And then James Conner, always a little sad when he goes because I always like to grab me some James Conner late in drafts, but we're already three running backs deep. Kyle Pitts, Anthony Richardson at 6.03, and David Montgomery off the board. The Ducers with three wide, Olave, Debo, and Amari Cooper. Trey McBride at tight end and Brees Hall at running back.
Starting point is 00:43:31 They have adopted, Jason, the hero RB strategy thus far. And they are back on the clock at 605. Will they keep it going or grab a running back? Let's find out. We are going low T on this one, boys, and we are taking Jaden Reed. Okay. Wow, okay. So you really are using the hero running back strategy,
Starting point is 00:43:53 which I think in a three-wide receiver league is a great strategy. You can load up on some later running backs, guys like Jerome Ford, who might be able to get off to a strong start, and then you pick up waiver pickups to fill in those running back positions. It's a strategy that can definitely win a league. After Reed went, Ramondre, McLaurin, and Kirk, and I... Great. Fantastic. I know exactly who the pick is. You know who the pick is? Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I'm curious if I know who the pick is. You know who the pick is? Yes. I'm curious if I know who the pick is. There are two players in my mind that I'm paying attention to right here. Yeah. And you should know one of them. There's a few. One of them for you is going to be Calvin Ridley. Then that's what the pick is. That's my vote as well.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Okay. And then hopefully coming back with Kyler. Okay. Maybe, but I was – okay. The fact that we could take either Kyler or Burrow, because Burrow stacks with Jamar Chase, and I think that that would be wonderful here. That was just kind of the tip from yesterday's episode.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Even a better situation because you can wait. And two of the three teams between us have quarterbacks. So even if they take Burrow, we go Kyler. If they take Kyler, we go Burrow. All I heard was draft Ridley. Calvin Ridley off the board at the 609. Nice pick. Worthy, Harris, Odunze, Pollard, Engram, Godwin, and now we've got a problem.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah. It's a good problem to have. Well, the bigger problem for me, honestly. Are there some like Red Rice on the board? It's Rasheed Rice. Yeah. Because at that spot where we just took Ridley, I would have been very happy ADP-wise to get Rasheed Rice on the squad there.
Starting point is 00:45:35 The reason I didn't even approach it is because we had Pacheco. So it was, well, let's balance out. Let's try and get the Tennessee offense. See, if they have anything to give us, it will be from Calvin Ridley. But now that Rice is back and just push the quarterback spot back. Joe Burrow getting the
Starting point is 00:45:53 stack here would be... You know what? I'm on that side now, I think. It would be great, but Dak is still there. Jordan Love. Jaden Daniels. Yeah. There are other options, and because we went with Kenneth Walker, I feel like loading up on wide receiver and a three wide receiver, I'm going to be very
Starting point is 00:46:10 happy with that. There's plenty of quarterbacks that are good later and maybe we could still do a stack with one of them. Bye-bye. We went with Rice and then Moser went next and then Burrow and Murray went back to back. Which I love because I know the Ducers were Rice. And then Mostert went next, and then Burrow and Murray went back-to-back.
Starting point is 00:46:26 And I think that – Which I love because I know the Deucers were going to take one of those two guys. Oh, and they're all nodding profusely. We literally were down to three guys, and it was those three guys. Oh, it was Mostert, Burrow, and Murray? Yeah. Excellent. I love that – I mean, it worked out, of course. Sometimes playing the game, you lose.
Starting point is 00:46:42 But not taking Rice at the 6-0-9, he still has the suspension worries. That will be a looming factor, I think, for most of the season unless you get an official report that everything of the court case has been – everything's pushed back. If you get that, then you'll have the all clear. But him as the wide receiver four well and then Ridley's the three I mean that that worked out sensationally all right the deucer is back on the clock I've given him so much time there's no way that if I hand it over to them one of them's not going to
Starting point is 00:47:14 talk into a microphone so who is the pick uh that didn't feel like a lot of time but I think we're gonna go ahead and uh lean on my homerism and take Jordan Love to stack with Jaden. Wow. Okay. All right. Hey, Jordan Reed. Get your guy. Jaden Reed, Jordan Love is a back-end stack that I like putting together. So I don't mind that at all. I also think this is one of the reasons why it's really fun to do the draft the way that we're doing it, the three of us versus three of them. We've talked so much about the adp comparison tool different platforms different systems jason talked about stacks like they could have gone a different quarterback there were several by adp that might have been higher but they went with the guy that
Starting point is 00:47:57 matched up with the player they just took and you're going to see some a lot of variation in your drafts exactly like that so Might have been a bit of a surprise to Jason, but fit the deucer's desires. Yeah, I don't mind it at all. After Jordan Love went Zemir White, Brock Bowers, absolute steal
Starting point is 00:48:17 at 7-10. No, not really a steal. Not really a steal. But I'm excited about him. Addison, Moss, Deontay Johnson, Dak, who unfortunately I was kind of eyeballing as a hopeful selection later. Hollywood Brown and Jalen Warren. And the Ducers are back on the clock right now just to give you a lay of the land and give them a moment to decide.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Still riding dirty with Brees Hall all alone. But then Olave, Debo, and Amari Cooper and Jaden Reed at wide out. That's super strong. Trey McBride snagging him in the fourth, and then Jordan Love with the bag of money in the seventh. One of the things I love is that
Starting point is 00:48:57 they loaded up and they've got four really good wide receivers. And I like our wide receivers much more and we have three awesome running backs so good job guys we got there yeah uh in the wise words that um i tell my toilet deuces eat it uh you was that enough time yeah we we had enough time we're gonna go ahead and take our rb2 here in the eighth round in giovante williams uh okay all right that's that's that is a that's a good hero rb pick when you get a guy who is going to have opportunity and there is the the narrative the path of healing from that injury two years ago where maybe you're getting you know a top 15
Starting point is 00:49:42 running back in uh the the later rounds you got to take that shot i i don't i don't agree with the bet like i i think they're going to be a really bad offense and he's going to be what he was last year but it's i probably would have taken the same running back here just for the potential uh after giovante eckler went which is before brian robinson so i thought I thought looked good in preseason, is definitely the guy over Eckler to me. So Brian Robinson going behind Eckler is interesting. Chubb went off the board in McConkie.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Just to give a lay of the land for our roster, we've taken three wideouts in the last four picks. There are five selections remaining, and one's going to need to be a quarterback, one a tight end. Both feel like positions we could wait on right now because i would say our eyes are on um golf daniels um the the tight end room which the teams between us and our next pick two of them have a tight end but uh we're down to david nojoku and jake ferguson as players were like happy to write.
Starting point is 00:50:46 I think in the ninth round, that's where those guys belong. That's what I was going to say. Do we wait one round and take those left? Absolutely, because we don't expect both to go off here at this turn. So I wouldn't take a tight end here. And you discussed on the Tips and Tricks episode yesterday about those seventh, eighth round tight ends don't usually work. You want to get a value.
Starting point is 00:51:07 If we don't get one of those top guys it needs to be a 9th round pick or later. So yeah here There are a couple rookies Keon Coleman and Brian Thomas on the board. At running back there's some starters Devin Singletary and Brian Robinson along with
Starting point is 00:51:23 Gus Edwards potentially. And then you mentioned wanting to see more Tajay Spears that you could pay attention to down in the draft. Any other names we should be thinking about there? It's a tough scenario because we're at a point now where I really like a lot of wide receivers, a little upside. Coleman, I'm still in on Christian Watson Brian Thomas Jackson Smith and Jigba is like Jason is man it's the he is such a tough player of the the excitement for him in his rookie year was through the roof and you did not get any of
Starting point is 00:52:04 you did not get anything back. I mean, you bought a ticket. Yeah, he played, but he didn't come with the excitement. That thing was at 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. You hated what you were watching, but not necessarily his fault. So it's just remembering, you know, oh, I was hot for Amari Cooper. Do we need to remember that we were hot for JSN? Yeah, and I don't think we mentioned it in the news,
Starting point is 00:52:27 but Tyler Lockett is dealing with a leg injury. Mike McDonald said. Oh, come on. Let's see if you can do it. Mike McDonald said that the issue isn't too serious, but we don't have a lot of information, but that is a path for JSN to rise. Yeah, I don't mind that pick.
Starting point is 00:52:46 It would be awesome if you had a little index card that had four McDaniels, McDaniels pictures, and you could just hold it up and say which one you mean. That's what I mean. Like a cheat sheet? Like a McCheat sheet? A McCheat sheet. Because between the Seahawks head coach Mike McDonald,
Starting point is 00:53:02 the Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel, and both the singer and actor Michael McDonald, my brain is mush. And you didn't even mention former offensive coordinator head coach Josh McDaniel. Don't do it. And you didn't even mention a 20-piece chicken McNugget. Oh, yeah. Sweet and sour?
Starting point is 00:53:21 Some of us conflate coaches with chicken. Yeah. All right. So what do we want to do? Jason, you can take the pick. I'm in on one of those wide receivers. Yeah. I'm on the wide receiver side, too.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I don't care which one. Thomas, Jason. When deciding, I'm taking a look at our current wide receivers. Jamar Chase, Tank Dell, Calvin Ridley, Rushie Rice. I think they're all really, really good. I want high upside. I think Jackson Smith and Jigba is. I want high upside. I think Jackson, Smith, and Jigba is a great pick.
Starting point is 00:53:48 That would be my selection. Jonathan Brooks goes next in Purdy, Ferguson, Coleman, Hopkins, and Watson. Now, based on what Mike just said... Guys, I lied. Well, no, I mean... I lied. I wanted Jake Ferguson over David Njoku. Oh, because you didn't want David Njoku.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Okay. I see those guys as so similar. I don't mind them. Do you want to take Njoku here? Yeah, I think that makes sense. He's kind of the last one. After him, you're punting all the way down to Pat Friermuth, who would be my last pick, like my last round pick, and I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 00:54:21 But I do think Njoku is a tier above. All right, we're getting down to the end here. Singletary and Robinson and Edwards, the starters, back to back to back. Those are the only players I was really considering over Njoku. Just adding more depth to the running back room. Sure.
Starting point is 00:54:38 But we took Njoku and those guys went off the board. The Ducers were probably considering one of those three as well. Is that true? Yep. You can't nod. They can'ters were probably considering one of those three as well. Is that true? Yep. You can't nod. They can't hear you nod, Josh. I'm just talking. I wish the camera was on because he's like he's profusely nodding. It was a sad nod because we wanted Gus Edwards
Starting point is 00:54:56 right here and he literally went the pick before it got to us. Well, then take Devin Singletary. No. Well, he's already gone too. We're taking the upside guy. Tajay Spears is off the board for the Ducers. Seeing some more quarterbacks go. Caleb Williams, Jamison
Starting point is 00:55:12 Williams, Brian Thomas, Tua, and then starting the 10th round, Goddard, Benson, Sutton, Zeke. Ducers back on the clock after the hot wide receiver run that they started the draft with. It's been Love, Javante, and Spears trying to fill in
Starting point is 00:55:28 those back-end running backs to accompany Brees Hall. You were back on the clock at 10.05. You have all your position players. You can do what you want. We're going to go Chase Brown. Yeah, I like that. In fact, when Zach Moss went off the board at 7.12, I made
Starting point is 00:55:44 a mental note to kind of keep Chase Brown tucked away. We ended up with... Are you going drum solo or maracas? Maracas. I will explain his dance. Also unable to be picked up on
Starting point is 00:55:58 microphone. I can do it. Thank you, Mike. Lawrence, Hawkinson and Goff went off the board. That was his Jaden Daniels dance. That was his Jaden Daniels dance. That is my Jaden Daniels dance. When you look at the quarterbacks, we're drafting very, very, very late here on quarterbacks, and you're just getting, you're getting hopefully a Kyler Murray rookie season here. When he was with Cliff Kingsbury finishes the quarterback seven, you know he's an accurate
Starting point is 00:56:21 passer. He's a great runner. He has a wonderful value. I would have taken him over Caleb Williams a round before over Trevor Lawrence. I personally would have taken him over Jared Goff. Both good options.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I love that we waited and got Njoku and Jaden Daniels in the 9th and 10th round while loading up on studs at running back and wide receivers. Had this been a live draft, which the computers sometimes get crazy with their second quarterbacks, if we could have waited this long, got Jaden and then Jared Goff
Starting point is 00:56:54 on the way back out, I would have been all about that. Now, it is interesting. No consideration has been given to Justin Herbert, who is now drafted in the 11th round. And I just think that's worth a conversation because Caleb Lawrence, Goff and Daniels there is not
Starting point is 00:57:11 it's a decent chance Herbert is just fine and fine for fantasy. Could be. It's the combination of not only the offensive concerns that we've had for the whole offseason of knowing that the Chargers while they should be a higher-scoring offense, it'll be very high-T combined with his injury pushing him down to here.
Starting point is 00:57:33 All right, we're back on the clock after the Daniels pick. We can do what we want because we've got our onesies taken care of. We're at five wide receivers on the roster. There are some names that are interesting at that position. You could, you know, Curtis Samuel with his opportunity in Buffalo. Adonai Mitchell seems to have an opportunity with injury in Indianapolis. Khalil Shakir. Where are you guys real quick on the Buffalo wide receivers?
Starting point is 00:57:58 I take Shakir over Samuel for upside. Because I've been the offseason of Curtis Samuel. I'm trying not to let just one preseason thing completely sway, but it looks like it might be Shakir over. And this is leaving Keon Coleman out of the equation. I'm saying between Curtis and Shakir, I think I may have switched to I'd prefer chasing after Shakir. He's got a higher yards per
Starting point is 00:58:25 catch which and in this offense with the extension of the play sorry Jason that's why I would go with him but Jason what do you think yeah I'm still very much in the belief that Curtis Samuel is better than than Shakir who will be more involved however the type of player that Curtis Samuel is doesn't really make sense for our roster we're loaded at wide receiver now and we're looking for high you know potential so you know Shakir makes probably more sense for our roster. We're loaded at wide receiver now, and we're looking for high potential. So, you know, Shakir makes probably more sense for our roster build than Curtis Samuel, who's just like a veteran plug and play. The one thing I'll point out, we only have three running backs.
Starting point is 00:58:55 There's still a starter available. There are studs. I'm curious who you think the starter. Like a full starter. A full starter. You're talking about Chuba? Yeah, Chuba is the starting running back for Carolina. He was the running back i
Starting point is 00:59:06 believe nine over the back half of the year he's injured right now right this second he is but they said it was not serious and jonathan brooks will not be playing to start the year just throwing that out there because to start the year though he wouldn't be in our lineup that's where we've got a chan and pacheco and walker so he's not going to crack our lineup until later when jonathan brooks comes back later you might see someone like rico dowdle i know mike's unbothered form is in the sense of taking over for a really high powered offense in the cowboys so like i would rather go that way for our build personally i would be, personally, I doubt it would be the guy. But for me, it would go Dowdle, J.K. Dobbins, and then Chuba. Both of you disrespecting the Chuba.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It's everything Jason said of, this is, I want a player who... Jonathan Brooks is not going to go. Week five, he's not the full-time running back. No, but once he's back, is it just now a mess of multiple running backs? Just like all the other guys that you were saying. But for a bad offense, you're choosing between the Panthers or the Cowboys. I think that there's a chance for both Dowdle and Dobbins, by the time a couple weeks in the season have passed,
Starting point is 01:00:20 that one of them you can tell they are the guy. To break it down for the listeners here, roster construction really matters. For our team that has three stud running backs, I would much rather take a guy who could have something happen, break out later, like a Rico Dowdle. If I was the Ducers team, I would prefer a Chuba. You're looking to pick up people off the waivers later, but you
Starting point is 01:00:46 need starters week one. Well, they'll get their shot. I took Dowdle for you, Mike, and then Anthony Mitchell goes at 11-05, Charbonnet, Curtis Samuel with the Deucers back on the clock. Real quick to put a bow on that, the Carolina Panthers opening schedule is the Saints, the Chargers,
Starting point is 01:01:02 the Raiders, the Bengals, the Bears. Like this is, that's going to be tough for the running back. All right, Deucers, you've got two picks left. They went with Khalil Shakir. Okay. Fryermuth, Jacoby, Komet, and Mike Williams rounding out the second to last round. And then Joshua Palmer, I was going to bring his name up.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Sure. But I did not. Chuba goes at 12-02. Kirk Cousins, Kendra Miller, and the Ducers have a final selection to add to their roster, which they will be doing in just a minute. Be with you in a moment, everybody. You can make the pick, Josh. This is why in school they make someone the leader of the group.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Right. Because if they all do it no one does it and josh is still not taking his pick take your pick josh oh that's a good fine that's a really good pick i like it i would like to have this last pick i don't care go ahead uh jalen wright off the board and rogers goes in this round dobbins is gone jason you can i'm gonna take a guy that we all believed in going into last year and no one believes in going into this year. But if Jaden Daniels has a great
Starting point is 01:02:09 season and is a really good quarterback, which is our quarterback, and you're drafting for things to go right. Don't click it. I don't like it. Just hold on a second. Hold on, who is it? It's Jahan Dotson. It's Jahan Dotson. He played too much preseason. Way too much preseason to feel good about.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Dotson! Dotson! We've got Dotson here! I was actually more encouraged by what was happening in the preseason for Dotson. And then, literally this morning, there was another report of Washington still looking for their wide receiver, too. It's not good, dude. It's not good. It's your pick. I'm not. Last round pick.
Starting point is 01:02:47 He played like the whole game or something. Your last round pick, you're hoping that you know week one immediately because do I have something here or is this the guy I get to cut for the week one waiver superstars? Okay. Well, I got to make the pick. All right. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Dontavian Wicks. Yeah, okay. I'm in. I'm back in, baby. I love Dontavian Wicks. Yeah, okay. I'm in. I'm back in, baby. I love Dontavian Wicks. You know, when you're at the last round, scroll down. Scroll down further and make sure that you're looking at all the names. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Why don't you run our team back for the listeners, Jason, and one of the deucers that can play Paper Rock Scissors while you read it and figure out who's going to read their team. So at quarterback and tight end, we've got Jayden Daniels and David Njoku happy with those late round options. At wide receiver, Jamar Chase, Tank Dell, Calvin Ridley, Rushie Rice,
Starting point is 01:03:33 JSN, and Dontavian Wicks loaded with six of those guys. And then at running back, Devon Achan, Isaiah Pacheco, Ken Bonewalker, and Rico Dowdle. I love our team. I like that team. Oh, yeah. I like this team.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I assume Al's going to read the team back here. Yeah, I'll read it here. We got Jordan Love throwing the football for us, Trey McBride at tight end. We've got Brees Hall, Javante Williams, Tajay Spears, Chase Brown, and Jalen Wright at running back. And our wide receivers are Chris Olave, Debo Samuel, Amari Cooper, Jaden Reed, and Khalil Shakir.
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