Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Mock Draft Episode + Mike's House of Cards - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/24

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Fantasy Football show for June 24, 2025. Different strategies put to the test for 2025 fantasy football drafts! It’s mock draft time! Find out what worked and what did not, as Andy, Mike, and Jason battle it out in a 12-team PPR mock draft. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2025 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT is available now at UltimateDraftKit.com(00:00) Introduction(03:45) Mock DraftConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Tuesday June 24th, mock draft time. Look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, look at, episode of the show that is the main event. Very excited about that. 12 team, full PPR mock draft. The draft is fully stocked with the three of us and a number of our writing staff and employees and so we're going to get a good lay of the land here at the end of June. lay of the land here at the end of June. And we know from the footcast episode we recently recorded that we had our first set of questions where people were like.

My draft is this week. I'm drafting next week. Which was jarring and don't do that. But sometimes that's just what happens. Schedules are tough for people. But I wouldn't aim for mid-June. Sometimes you, that's just what happens. Yep. Schedules are tough for people. Yeah, I mean. But I wouldn't aim for mid-June. I would say if you're doing a dynasty startup,

I feel like that's fine. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously. Definitely. You've gotta be after the NFL draft. You have to be after free agency. Eh, you know, when it comes to training camp, it's like. Is that what that was? Was it a dynasty league?

I don't think so. No, I think the question we got was just a redraft league. They're ready to go. Yeah, no, it's gonna be fun. That's what we're doing today. And if you wanna watch it, if you wanna see the draft board and see all the different teams as we go through it,

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because you'll read a review like oh this person took the time they wrote you know like a paragraph and they're you know so nice three stars like what what are you gonna be nice? Yeah no we like the fives we definitely do you can follow us on Twitter, by the way, on X, at the FF Ballers, and the Ultimate Draft Kit with the Draft Analyzer coming out in a few days. UltimateDraftKit.com, the Draft Analyzer. This year we're gonna add the feature

of being able to import not just your draft and get a grade on your team, but also compare it to the rest of your league. So we'll be taking all of the teams in your league and giving you a breakdown, not just of your team but also compare it to the rest of your league. So we'll be taking all of the teams in your league and giving you a breakdown not just of your team but of theirs and that'll let you identify some trading opportunities and it should be a lot of fun. Big upgrade this year to the draft analyzer as part of the UDK Plus. The community over there jointhefoot.com. But that's all I have to say here at the top. I want to jump right in. It's time. Let's go.

The fantasy footballers mock draft. Well, well, well, I said it. 12 team, full PPR, one quarterback, two running back, two wide receiver, one tight end, one flex, four bench spots, and randomly assigned draft order. I'm at the one. Randomly. Yeah, I randomly assigned it in the order I chose. I'm at the one, Bet's at the two, and wait, Jason's at the four.

I'm excited about that. The last two drafts have been at the end of the draft, and so I get the change up. And Kyle's in here at the six. Mike is at the eight spot. And so like I said, you can follow along on YouTube if you wanna see the draft board, but we're gonna get right into it. This is a full PBR mock draft, which is delightful for me at the one,

because I am traditionally somebody who likes to push for running back at the top of the draft but I will not do that here I will I will start our draft with Jamar chase in a full ppr and I will I'll just let him fly right off the board onto my roster I have no like you you have no reason to ever complain or feel bad with the chase pick at the top end. So Matthew Betts follows suit with a CD Lamb selection at the 102, very excited for Lamb and Dak being back this year. And then Justin Jefferson off the board at the 103, putting Jason in kind of the more interesting

first selection spot here with a number of great running backs on the board. Yeah, I mean you've got, you know, in full PPR, sometimes it's tempting to force yourself to go wide receiver, but really, I mean, full PPR just means the pass catching running backs are equally more valuable. You know, Christian McCaffrey in full PPR leagues has been the league winner still. So this year, my number one running back is Bijon. He's young, he has no red flags. I think it's, I personally think we haven't seen Bijon Robinson's best season yet. I'm going to draft him right now and

hopefully get it this year. So Chase Lamb, Jefferson and Bijon, here's our running back run. Gibbs goes at the 105. I can see that in full PPR. People want to take a shot on that pass catching prowess. Gibbs still has a ceiling left, which should be terrifying to the rest of the NFL. Saquon Barkley at the 106 and then Amon Ra St. Brown goes at the 107, putting Mike on the clock. Four wide outs off the board, three running backs. What players are you looking at,

Mike? So at the top, my highest ranked, her highest projected wide receiver will be Puka. I am on firmly on the team that Puka Nikua. You should feel great about having him as a wide receiver one on your team. Because there's people out there who don't, but if I'm at the eight spot and Chris McCaffrey falls to me, I mean I know I'm taking him in like every one of our drafts, but he fell to me at the one away, what am I supposed to do? Three straight mock drafts. Puka is a very safe star in PPR leagues. Very safe. Malik neighbors, so Puka went right after Mike.

Malik neighbors went next, Nico Collins at the 111, and then Ashton Gentey going off the board to round out the first round. Yeah, that makes sense. At the 112, giving us five running backs and eight, or sorry, seven wide outs going in the first round of a PPR draft.

What is your reaction to the lay of the land there in the first? My reaction is that was a great pick at the 109, grabbing Puka. That's certainly who I would have taken. I mean, the knock on Puka. Over CMC? Yeah, yeah, I mean mean I think Puka in a full PPR is He is a target hog. I mean the the issue he has had from a not being like the number one is oh

I'm not sure he's a touchdown guy, which I I don't I don't buy that he hasn't been a touchdown Machine, but when you just talk targets volume full, full PPR, he is an alpha. So Puka, yeah, 109 there. In the second round, we've got the Falcon is at the turn, so he took Gentie and then went Drake-London combo, and then Brian Thomas Jr. and AJ Brown go next, and we finally have a break from the running backs and the white outs. Brock Bowers off the board at the 20-0-4, the combo with Pukinakua. You're talking good 200 receptions between those two guys in a full PPR.

And I think that's conservative. I think that's pretty safe. So, Mike, you're back on the clock. I am. You can't take McCaffrey again, I'm afraid. I don't need to. I do feel like it, just can't take McCaffrey again, I'm afraid. I don't need to. I do feel like, just to speak to McCaffrey for a second, it is a polarizing landscape with Christian McCaffrey. Yeah.

And I feel like there's the people that understand that he can be the number one overall running back again. And then there are the people that are like, that's just an idiotic move. Like that's how strong they feel about it. And I'm not one of them. I'm saying there's like a McCaffrey bullying going on out there, where it's like, they don't see it.

They don't understand. The injuries have burned them so badly that there's no realm in which they would take Christian McCaffrey, and to be honest, you've taken him in three straight mocks, but you've taken him ahead of ADP in all three mocks. Is 108 would be higher than? I mean, I think so, in a full PPR even.

Then that is sensational. So Mike starts this year with Christian McCaffrey. I guess. Because every draft, you will be the one pulling the trigger. Because, yeah, like, Puka, he's going to catch a bunch of passes. That's great. Is he going to rush the ball over 200 times, too?

Because Christian McCaffrey could catch 60-plus passes while having all those. I get it. Everybody's selection is risk aversion when they don't take McCaffrey. Yep. I get that. So I'm on the clock

Looking at the wide receivers, you know, I really like lad mcconkey. I think he is a perfectly fine pick here, but I'm going to lean into the the lowest tee of the high tee and I will take the Vaughn a Chan and expect that he will just get peppered with targets yet again. I I Love that pic Mike. I think I think a Chan is being undervalued. I really do I think especially in this format, but he's he still does honestly feel a little bit scary to me and he Probably shouldn't based off. I don't think you should of what happened. I mean it's just the, you know, the efficiency dropped so much and the team was very disappointing. But in PPR especially, I would be really happy

with that start of two just dynamic pass catchers who both of them could lead the league in receptions or in receiving yards at the end of the year. We talked about on the overrated underrated we talked about Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel's and his offensive prowess and how bad it was like emotionally for Dolphins fans and fantasy players. HN had double the carries, double the attempts. You expect the efficiency. I mean, nobody thought 7.77. No, no, no, no.

4.47 is fine. He caught 78 passes. Exactly. On an offense that went from like a top five offense in points per game to 18. So if you bounce back at all because two is there and Tyreek's healthy, HN is just a steal. I mean, I love the pick.

Trey McBride goes next. That really upset me. You wanted the beast on Trey McBride start. Yes, I did. Sorry, real quick to follow up earlier, the CMC PPR ADP, that's a lot of initials, it's 205. I was almost gonna say you could have flipped us. Like, A-chan could have gone,

and McCaffrey could have gone in the second, but you're upset, Jason. You wanna train McBride? Yeah, I mean, in a full PPR, a tight end that just caught 111 receptions. I mean, that's like, there's not wide receivers on the board here that are gonna catch 111 receptions.

To have that positional advantage is outstanding in the second round. Unfortunately, Julia was rude and took him. So Lad McConkey went next after Kyle. Derek Henry finally goes full PVR at the 208. Does that feel right? Yeah, it feels about right. The, you know, baking in some risk of it, like he won't catch the passes. He probably regresses in touchdowns, but Derrick Henry just seems to be the one man that you should never ever bet against. I feel like Derrick Henry is oftentimes in full PPR leagues.

He falls too far. Yeah. You know, it's like, oh, he doesn't catch passes. Look, that's not the only way you score. In fantasy, if he rushes for 2,000 yards and 20 touchdowns, you know, basically like he did last year, you're okay not having the receptions. I'm sitting here on the clock now. There are, I don't have a wide receiver. The tight ends, McBride

and Bowers are gone. I wouldn't look at quarterback this early. And there's a handful of running backs that I actually like. So I am going to pull the trigger on wide receiver and it might be a little bit surprising who I take. I've got him in a full PPR. Now, this is assuming health which is a scary thing to do, but I've got him as a wide receiver one, even though he's not a wide receiver one for his team, it's T. Higgins. When he has been on the field, he's been unstoppable. Now I'm going to take him as my wide receiver one. Oh man. We had, I think a quick question yesterday that was, or last week it was Rashi Rice, T. Higgins. Saw some reactions like,

why is everybody in on T. Higgins now, when the injury history has been a problem, and I think everything feels really secure with the contract. We feel good about the offense. We feel good about the quarterback. Feel good about the defense being bad. But 209 is, it's a pronouncement in favor of T. Higgins. Yeah, I mean the wide receiver.

Son of a gun. Gosh dang it. Bucky Irving goes it right before my pick. Sorry. That's frustrating because Bucky in a PPR, 50 receptions. Yeah. I mean, that's nice. Sorry, go ahead, John.

No, no, no. That's fine. Take Rashad White. Yeah, T. Higgins was my highest. I mean, this is a full PPR league, so you saw the run of Brian Thomas, Lad McConkey, Drake London. These guys are all gone already.

Very frustrated. All right, Jamar Chase was my first pick. JSN went after Higgins and then Bucky Irving at the 2-11, which was my target at running back. I do have running backs on the board like Josh Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor, high volume, high attempt, running backs, kind of whatever, Henry Light in that capacity,

didn't catch a ton of passes, Kyron, same story, not a ton of passes, but going to be workhorse running backs. I think I'm gonna go wide out, wide out here. Okay. I'm gonna take Garrett Wilson, wide out here. Okay. I'm gonna take Garrett Wilson. Yeah. And it's just total targets, total receptions.

They're going to be there. I don't know if he scores a bunch, but I know in a PPR league, I'm getting one of the top tier, top target guys. So now my decision, it's one of those running backs, do I let them fly by because I can get somebody a little bit later? I got a long wait. I got to wait a what 22 picks? Something like that. That's gross. We'll never know. I think I'm gonna give myself the flexibility. I think I'm gonna pivot back. I'm gonna give myself

more flexibility. If I take another white out here, I was thinking about Marv. If I take another white out here, I am really backed into running back in the fourth and at the turn. So I'll take Jacobs and lock in just a true workhorse there. So Chase Wilson Jacobs is the pick. And no, no, Jameson Williams not off the board to my team here in the third. You coulda had him. Yep, yep. I wanted Bucky though, man. That woulda been nice, Bucky and Garrett Wilson.

Rashi Rice goes next, third round. Yeah, he would nota made it past me. No, and then we have Marvin Harrison a couple picks later. I was really considering Marv. Marv was probably going to be my pick if he was on the board here. It makes it really easy to me because I was between Marvin Harrison and my running back of choice. There are several good running backs. You know I love Kieron Williams. I talk up Jonathan Taylor how much I love him. But I'm actually going to go with someone that might surprise you guys. I talk up Jonathan Taylor how much I love him. But I'm actually gonna go with someone that might surprise you guys. I mean, Mike would do it as well.

Oh, don't do that to me. I'm doing it to you. Dude, I was going so high T. I'm going with Chase Brown. When he got the starting job in a full PPR, he was on pace for 93 targets. He was a true PPR back. and I think they're going to use him the same way. I've turned into a full believer that Chase Brown...

Turned into a Team Bengals as well. Is going... Yeah, that's true. Don't let him get Burrow. I would love to stack with Burrow. Yeah, I know. I say, like, if I'm in a league, and I see this happening in the second, third round, Joe Burrow moves up my board. Just for spite?

Yeah. Just the anger play? Well, good. I am glad I took Chase Brown from you. All right, Chase Brown to Jason to pair with Bijon and T. Higgins. Devonte Adams goes next at 305. And then Jonathan Taylor and Kyron off

the board. Mike I don't know if you were looking at still going high tee with either of those guys but you are back on the clock eighth pick of the third round. I am so I'm high tee just running back running back so right now the wide receivers ADP wise would be Tyreek, Terry, Mike Evans, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, oh man. Sutton, this is a weird tier of wide receivers if you're talking to PPR League. Are you having a hard time differentiating? Yes. The group?

I am. I just wasn't sure if I wanted to, you know, balance out the team a little bit. But I am going to go. Mike Williams? Are you going Mike, but I am gonna go. Mike Williams, are you going Mike Williams? I am not. Oh, okay. But the testosterone is still gonna keep on boosting, boys. Really?

Oh, wow. We're gonna take the old man. We're gonna take Alvin Kamara here. We are gonna monopolize the running back reception market. You can have an ARP attack. Christian McCaffrey and Kamara. What could attack. Christian McCaffrey and Kamara. What could go wrong with McCaffrey and Kamara on a team? You know, does it say something about your worldview,

your philosophical worldview that you just see people in it going right? Like you're a positive person. You see the glass half full, the knee always healthy. Yeah. With CMC and now Kamara. Yeah you love Ken Walker as well. I do. That's a perfect example of like he's so talented and you love T Higgins. I do. Because they're great when they're on the field. Yeah you can't, that's what I'm saying, the first vision you have when you put on the goggles and you watch the film, it's not the injuries, you just see

the big plays. Oh, because I'm not drafting like a coward. Like you would be a great agent for these guys. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, I'm available. Yeah. Alvin, you want a percentage.

Here, go get this money. You got to restructure your deal. All right, Mike goes, Alvin Kamara at 308, it's a great pick. I mean, it was, with Jacobs on the board, Chase Brown on the board, I wouldn't have done it, a great pick. I mean it was With Jacobs on the board chase Brown on the board I wouldn't have done it But I mean I think it would have been okay to take him at the top of the third Mike Evans It did it doesn't feel it doesn't feel good, but it could work

Yeah, it does it didn't look good last year, but it worked Mike Evans goes at 309 Breeze Hall and Ken Walker and James Cook round out the third round Which you know more running backs off the board. There was some depth there in a PPR with all the wide outs and a couple of tight ends going off the board. We'll go ahead and take a quick break and come back to the mock starting in the fourth round. Well give me a quick reflection on the first three rounds, either with your team or just teams that you see out there that it's worked out well for them. You know, it's obviously very wide receiver heavy, pass catcher heavy, and I think once you hit this area of the draft, the fourth feels like they're, you know,

some of the wide receivers aren't very shiny. You know what I mean? You're kind of in a group of guys that you're not sure you love. They all have warts. And that feels pretty early for that in the fourth. Yeah, we're getting down to that point. DJ Moore goes off the board with the first pick

of the fourth round. And then we've got three more running backs. Hampton, the shot on Hampton at four oh two. I like that the news is very positive around Hampton. Chuba Hubbard and James Connor. Couple of underrated every down backs going here at four oh three and four oh four. And then Mike back on the clock I mean you're maxing out the testosterone. I am. So I'm wondering where you're going now

McCaffrey H. and Camara you're at the 405. So it would be hilarious to take Joseph Mixon right here but I'm not I'm not gonna do that. So the wide receivers Tyreek is still there. Yep. You do have HN. For this particular build yeah because I have HN I don't love going in on that of like my part of my bet of HN is we see more of what we saw last year where it's no an anti-Tai-Rik bet then you Terry and DK and Cortland Sutton my highest ranked of those guys would be Cortland Sutton man but I'm gonna come I'm considering going with the quarterback no one has taken a quarterback yet we're in the fourth round meaning I get to take just my

number one quarterback, which I think I'm going to do it. I'm going to, I'm going to see what my team looks like here. And my QB one for this year is Josh Allen, uh, Josh Allen or Lamar. It doesn't matter to me which one you want to go with, but I'm going to go with Josh Allen. Well, Alan is the four Oh five, the first quarterback off the board. Joe mixing goes next. I imagined there was no hope of him getting to me

when it has to go through Jason. And Mixon goes off the board, 406 seems like a great value. Goes behind, you know, Cook and Walker and Hampton and Hubbard and Connor. That seems like one of the steals of the draft personally. Yeah, I like talking crap about mixing but it's like especially Hubbard because we're in the PPR I would I would I would value mixing over over Chuba. Tyreek off the board at 407 to pair with McConkie on Kyle's team and then Metcalf goes off

the board I think that that could be a really, really solid pick from a reception total perspective. Metcalf feels, I mean, I know we have differences of opinion, but Jason and I have shared we think Metcalf just feels like the, one of those obvious falling too far guys. Yeah, when Mike was on the clock, I had three wide receivers queued up for this pick. And in order it went DK Metcalf, Tyreek Hill, and Devontae Smith. So I think Tyreek in the fourth,

you know, I have been out on Tyreek, but Tyreek in the fourth, that's a shot worth taking. I would have taken Metcalf ahead of him just because I'm very confident in DK Metcalf this year, and instead I'm just gonna end up taking a Great wide receiver. I mean both T Higgins and Devontae Smith on my team They're great wide receivers who aren't the ones for their team, but they are good for fantasy football They're solid players and Andy gets sniped again. I love it I was I was hoping maybe with this group of live drafters that George Kittle could follow me as well, but I take it you would have taken him here?

Yeah, he was in the queue. I've learned how to use a queue versus just drafting a player. Oh, that's great. Just so you guys know, breaking news. You've done this for only a decade. Just a decade, but yeah, look, that's two times, Betsy. It happens. That's twice.

That's twice, he takes George Kittle. So Metcalf went and Jason took Demonte Smith. Then Lamar Jackson goes at the 4-10 second quarterback. Then Kittle goes at 4-11 and Kittle was 100% the next pick for for my roster and I am I'm very frustrated. That's that's annoying. So what are you gonna do? Yeah, well I'm looking. I've got a bunch of names that just don't fit the tier that I felt like Kittle represented for my team right there. A wide receiver, jokes aside, Jamison in the fifth

is better than Jamison in the third. Agreed. So he is in consideration for me. I look at some of the other guys out there, someone's gonna pull the trigger on Tett McMillan at some point who could have a high reception total in year one and a full PPR. Terry McLoran's sitting there.

And it's like, that feels really, really safe for the roster. So I'm actually, I look at the running backs and there's like, Mon know, Monty's there and then it's a pile of rookies, you know, RJ Harvey, how involved is he going to be? Do you trust RJ Harvey if you're me as your running back too? I don't think so. I would trust Judkins more, Jason.

Yeah, Judkins has far more assured opportunities. I think he's going to be the starter from day one.K. Dobbins there, you're just not sure, with R.J. Harvey, although Harvey probably will catch more passes. I'm gonna take Terry McLaurin, and you know, I have so much confidence in that offense, and now I'm going to take a quarterback. Okay.

And I can either try to disrupt Jason, and go for my own stack of burrow and chase so he doesn't get to bring him back or I can take the combination. That's a tricky situation. I can take the combination of Jaden Daniels with Terry McLaurin. Oh man.

So I'd love to hear what you think. I know what my rankings say. Man. So I'd love to hear what you think. I know what my rankings say. Man! That's what a predicament that you have backed into. I know what I would, do you want me to say what I would do? Well look, I have it locked on my side. I'm taking, you know, I'll write it down, but I'm just curious where you guys are gonna go.

I would go burrow. That's right. That's right. I'd want theough. That's where I would go. I'd want the Borough of Jamarja to stay. Are you sure? You know, the hard part there is one of the differentiators, Borough is ranked higher for me,

but they're back to back. But what's hard is McLaurin does have the touchdown regression story. He's also got a contract situation right now. He hasn't showed up. But there's, so there's a little bit more unknown with McLaurin this year. And then Jaden, year two, you guys have thrown out

the Stroud comp, I don't like that. I think Jaden's gonna be fine. What? We're not comping him to it. We're just showing that there is a world where you don't necessarily get better in there. Comp is not the right word, sorry. The example, the Stroud example, sorry.

But if it goes bad for Jayden in year two, it's certainly going bad for McLaurin with the touchdown regression. So I won't stack that. I'll just take the chase, burrow combo, disrupt Jason's potential plans, and Jayden goes next. So Jayden off the board to Betsy. I mean, goodness gracious.

You cannot let that happen in your league. Let the Burrow Chase combo happen? Yeah. Yeah, that's... I got so focused on how hilarious it would be to ruin Jason's Bengal Superstack that I took my eye off the ball. I took my eye off Jamar Chase. My stack is better. Yeah. Yeah, no. So I was actually really hesitant on whether I would take Burrow here, and the reason was because I've got two ways I can stack, and these quarterbacks are, Joe Burrow and Jalen Hurts, to me, are the same tier.

Yeah, that's fair. I prefer a guy who can have the rushing touchdowns and the tush push, and I just drafted Devontae Smith, so I'm gonna complete my stack there with Jalen Hurts. You made it a little bit easy on me Andy by taking Burrow and making me not have to make the decision. That does feel like the end of the I feel good about my quarterback pick early group. Alan, Jackson, Burrow, Daniels and Hurts in some order. Yeah. It truly is in some order that you, I don't think I'd blame anybody for taking,

it's hard not to have Allen and Jackson at the top, but if you wanted to take Jayden, I get it. If you wanted to take Hertz, I get it. I was in a real league where, I mean, it's a different scoring format that really boosted it towards Jaylen Hertz, but I took him as the first quarterback. That whole group is shuffle up.

So I like getting the last of that group. All right, Jalen Hurts at the 504. Cortland Sutton. I was desperately hoping that Cortland Sutton would drop to me. Yeah, that would not be so bad if you go IT and you get a quarterback and then you can lead the way with Sutton.

That makes sense. He goes at 505, however, and you get a quarterback and then you can lead the way with Sutton. That makes sense. He goes at 505, however, and you don't get him. Kyle takes Tett McMillan, so either I sparked something in him or he's on the same wavelength, which is him sitting there as the number one, a top 10 pick, Bryce Young's resurgence. There's some PPR value to be had there. And then George Pickens goes off the board at 507.

So Mike, you are on the clock. McCaffrey, Aitchin, Camara. Just, I mean, I kinda like it. It's a PPR explosion at running back. I am in a house of cards right now. Oh, it is. This thing could topple at any moment. It is so fragile.

The point of a mock is the experimentation. Yeah, that's what I'm going with. This is not your draft, but I am curious now how you navigate feeling better about the house of cards from here on out. Is there a way that you can insure these guys or make yourself feel better at running back if one of them hits the shelf?

Because I would bet a lot of money that Kamara and McCavrey don't play 17 each. Sure. So, you know, I'm just curious to see how it goes. Yeah, but I have to start looking at the wide receiver position, or it's gonna be all flyers and upside at an entire position, which,

that's not feeling great heading into the draft. You might already be there. I might I might but there there is a name who look I'm surprised Andy didn't draft him in round three. Betts is letting me know we're into tier eight of the UDK rankings at wide receiver. Yeah yeah that that sounds right. Oh Jamison. But I'm going to take Jamison Williams here who That sounds right. Oh, Jamison. But I'm gonna take Jamison Williams here, who I am in agreement that is being undervalued.

Zay Flowers, who went next to Joe, he was in some consideration for me, but I need some touchdowns. You need alpha potential. Yes. Yeah, I went stack with Burrow versus taking my guy in Jamison, but I love it.

Much better value than I got last draft. Flowers off the board, Godwin next, Waddle at 511, TJ Hockinson, I think there's some PPR value right there. Yeah, absolutely. At the 512 and then Trevion Henderson in New England at the 601, Caleb Johnson at 602, and David Montgomery at 603. Three running backs leading off the sixth round.

And you know, Monty at the 603 feels all right to me. As a running back three, that's fine. And Caleb Johnson, I thought maybe I'd hear a groan from Jason. I didn't see it. I didn't see it or I would groan. Caleb Johnson got drafted. He's not on your team. He's no longer in my queue. Deandre Swift at the 6-0-4 could also be a steal. So Mike, you're back

on the clock. You took Jamison. Flowers, Godwin and Waddle at wide receiver went after you and that was it at wide receiver. So looking at the ADP, Worthy's at the top. Olave is, man, Olave is interesting here considering the build of my team. Don't love doubling up on the New Orleans Saints with that situation that they got going on with their quarterback. Travis Hunter is on the, I'm just reading through ADP. Jordan Addison, I am concerned about a suspension for this year, so I don't think I could start with him. So it boils it down to Olave.

I have to do it, I have to do it. The regasps for one pick, Mike. Yeah, because it's. That's the minimum for drafting Olave. Yeah, it is, it's one gas per concussion. Yeah, because it's... That's the minimum for drafting a lave. Yeah, it is. It's one gas per concussion. Oh, you need more gas.

Juwan Jennings, was he in consideration? He was. I thought I would be overdrafting him, and I thought I could sneak him... Into the future round? Yeah, I thought I could get him... He went next. Yeah, I know.

I was like, hey, sometimes you gamble and you lose. Sometimes it's not a fart. Oh, gosh. Olavi and then Joann Jennings and then Zaverworthy off the board to Kyle. Yes, because I, let me, like Jennings is higher in my rankings than Olavi. Yeah. But tried to play the game and I lost. I understand the enticement of Olavi in your specific situation. Because of what we've thought he could be.

A world exists for Chris Olavi this year, even with bad quarterbacks too, because he's just the guy. Show up with a, I don't know, know high 20 like a 28% target share and just and truly I mean PPR his way into value maybe maybe you're only looking at four touchdowns but you could be talking 80 90 plus receptions here. Tony Pollard off the board at the 608 ahead of Jason selection Jason currently with Chase Brown and Bijon at running back Higgins and Devontae Smith. Two running backs, two wide receivers.

I have two players in my queue. One is a running back, one is a wide receiver. Very difficult to decide which one to take. But I look at the three teams left between me and my next pick. So they get six picks. And of those three teams, each one of them only has one running back.

So that makes my decision a lot easier in the sense that I think that they are going to probably have to, yeah, a little bit of strategic. So I'm gonna take RJ Harvey here. We talked about him a while ago, I think in a PPR league. Very talented, he's in the system. That seems like he, did he fall already? Or am I just misremembering?

No, he's fallen a little bit with the JK Dobbins news, but it's certainly to me, I think, a rookie in Sean Payton's system that targets the running back so much, it's a good value there. Well, I was hoping Harvey or Aaron Jones would fall to me at the 612th. Harvey is gone to Jason, Aaron Jones goes next to Kurt,

and Roma Dunze, I don't know if that's best just trying at this point. I wasn't gonna be the pick, but he's in the queue. So I'm back on the clock, took Burrow, which cost me at running back. I look at the running backs that I could have had and I do feel like it's a tear down right now. I can take a chance on Pacheco returning to form.

Not hyper excited. Brian Robinson, we've talked about him as a value. I like that, but you are, it's getting. Ugly. It's getting ugly. I can trade you a running back. Man. You know, how do you view Laporta and Kelsey in a full PPR? Kelsey is a very big question mark. The way that I am projecting this season, I think Kelsey's going to take a significant hit in his target market share. He's always been 24, 25% plus.

I've got him sub 20 for the first time in his career. If he's not, if he doesn't take that hit, then he's gonna be one of the best values in the draft in a PPR league. Even if he doesn't have the crazy yards after catch or yards per reception, the volume's always been there for him. So it's just a matter of how you're projecting the Chiefs and you got to call your shot. Historically, it's been a pretty good idea to bet on Travis Kelsey.

I'm going to go ahead and take Isaiah Pacheco with the first of the two picks. Oh, gross. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, Mike, my choices at running back at this point are Tyrone Tracy. Is that more gross? I don't know. I mean I'm not, I didn't take Brian Robinson, I took Pacheco over to Brian Robinson because I have McLaurin on the team already.

Yeah. And those two are, it's close. Najee Harris, how much work is he gonna get? Is he gonna get handed off to Hampton? I need a running back of value here. And so it's tough. Javontae Williams, Ramondre Stevenson, it is thinned out. So all the signs, all the news reports,

all of the camp talk, Pacheco back to his former self. Oh, is that what they're, I haven't read any of those. No, it's been good reports. It's been very positive. Whether you get that on the field We'll see there is an argument to be made for Pacheco that if he's back to full health He really is he doesn't have a lot of competition there I know they brought in Elijah Mitchell and they brought Kareem hunt back. I think it's competition for him

I mean personally, I'm I'm negative on Pacheco. I think it'll be a three-way timeshare and last year They used cream hunt as a pass catching back and near the goal line. Yeah, I win Pacheco your high value touches are gone Yeah All right. My my next pick is is probably a surprise, but I went with Stefan Diggs It is a surprise in a full PPR. We we've had the conflicting. Is he ready? Is he not ready reports that if he's ready, that's a fantastic pick I mean in the seventh round the number one target for Drake May who you guys have confidence in I think it's a perfect selection when you already have three wide receivers so you get to see if you've got something

special there in PPR Travis Hunter goes next Calvin Ridley goes at 703 your groan was for what Jason Travis Hunter I was between Travis Hunter and RJ Harvey. I thought maybe I could end up getting both of them when I picked Harvey. I definitely think I used the right strategy in getting a running back there with the running back tier that was left. It's all gross now, and there's still wide receivers I like. I'm going to take one of them here. I'm going to grab a guy who was... Don't tell us. Oh, I'm not...

Tell us in a second. Oh, TBD. Well, we're back from break. Jason's had hours to think about this pick. Let me ask you a question, Andy. Would you want a player who in the last eight games last year was on pace for a hundred and twenty one receptions and 1723 receiving yards I would that's Jerry Judy. Oh man Situations exactly the same is because I'm Ari Cooper's not there anymore and everything

Quarterback oh I could dream a dream For Whitehouse to start the seventh round. It goes Diggs, Hunter, Ridley, Judy. And I mean, the same thing with Judy. If it's Joe Flacco and Jerry Judy is being drafted around this range, that will end up being wild. But I think that's a it again fragile

because it's like it might not be Joe. It might be Joe for four weeks. It might be Joe for a month. That's all I need baby. And then trade trade Jerry Judy one month. The team says no we got to we got to look to at the other guys. We got to look at the kids. It could start with Kenny Pickett. Oh, Julian. Oh, come on. Well, Bonix goes in. I was about to eat my fantasy vegetables. And Mike was going to eat his fantasy vegetables

in Jacobi Myers. And he's on the clock because Myers goes right before his selection. Oh, man. So now you've got to scramble. I felt so good about that. was right before his selection. Oh man. So now you've got to scramble. Dude, I felt so good about that. You gotta figure it out.

Yeah, I got it. Other people eat healthy too, Mike. I got it. I'm gonna draft a player. Boy, by the way, Julia has like your, your like dream team of white outs here with Pickens. We share. And George Jennings and then Jacoby.

We share a lot of fantasy philosophies. Well, she has Mixon, so not everything. Well, yeah. Hey. That would be too weird. All right, so how are you feeling? Three picks removed from your triple running back choices. We're getting there.

We are. We're getting there. We're building that wide receiver room I'm gonna go the guy it he doesn't get talked about I think enough on this show He recently came up on I think a foot cast but the dude got a bag I got Josh Allen Khalil Shakir as my wide receiver three with I mean the I'll just take his floor with potential ceiling there So I'm in the seventh late seventh to get Shakir, I'm for it. All right, Shakir to Mike, Brian Robinson does go at seven.

Brooks, you devil dog! Yeah, he's, he was. Come on, man! Brooks takes Josh Downs at seven, 10, he was in my queue as well. And, oh, he wasn't making a, I was gonna go with Shakir Downs, it was gonna be great. Well, he said he wanted Shakir, so you took him from.

Well, we might have to make a trade later. All right, well, Debo. It's a mock draft. It's a mock trade. Oh, it's just a mock trade. Mock trade show. Josh Downs, Debo, Samuel, Ricky Pearsall finishing out the seventh round.

Keon Coleman, who recently the news came out that Keon Coleman was dealing with injury, I think in week nine and beyond, disrupting his rookie season. Travis Etienne goes at 8.02. He was definitely a target for my next pick. Somebody that can catch the football out of the backfield with a shot at the number one overall spot in Jacksonville.

Jaden Reid off the board. Mike Q has been just decimated and cleared out in the last like seven picks. So Downs and Jaden Reid to Brooks in back to back, seventh and eighth round picks. Deebo at 7-11, I don't know how you feel about that. Deebo that? I mean.

I don't know how to feel about Deebo. I feel like I'm mostly out on Debo, a player who seemed like he lost a step last year. I feel like I'm completely out. Changing teams at an old age, but at this point in the draft, it's also tough to say you're out on a guy who it's not costing you much here, who's been a top fantasy option in the past.

All right, Baker Mayfield goes at 8.04 and Mike, you're back on the clock. You have taken Jamison Williams, Chris Olavi, and Khalil Shakir the last three rounds. Man, if I had gotten Josh Downs right here, I would have felt the cards a little bit more secure. The wide receivers at this point, Addison, again the suspension, I don't know, Ayuk, when is he even ready? Cooper Cup, Andy talked about him as a bust pick recently, which I think I agree. And then it's just taking some real shots on unknowns. And I feel like you guys, I'm looking at the draft, so in between me and my next pick, three teams have taken a tight end.

I think that, I would guess at this point that a few will be taking off. For me, I don't want John Yoo and A-chan. So it comes down to Sam Laporta and Evan Ingram. Do I think that Ingram will get enough PPR action to outproduce Sam Laporta? I think it's real close, but with what happened, I know I have two Lions, and this one I am actually okay with because I want, I think that Laporta is the better tight end pick over Evan Ingram. I'm willing to go in on the line's offense.

So you took Laporta? Yeah. Jason's doing a fist pump over here. Jaylen Warren, Jayden Higgins, and Jordan Addison, the triple J's off the board. Jason did a fist pump. Is that what the fist pump was for? He probably saw his Judy pick and was thinking about it again. He was like, yeah, Judy!

My fist pump was, I think in the eighth round, eighth round, the value at tight end goes to me. It goes, McBriden-Bauer's great. Kittle's probably the best value. And then I want to punt forever to be late. But literally in PPR, my tight end four is the guy I'm able to get in the eighth round and I'm so happy you have a chance. So you believe that it will happen again? I do think it will. Yeah, I mean he was the tight end four last year, Johnnie Smith, and a PPR hyper targeted with those short twoa targets and so I'll be thrilled in a full PPR to get him in the eighth. All right, well that works for me, Jason, because Mike was between Laporta and Ingram. That would have been the selection that I was between as well. Johnny Smith goes to you, which I think that's a good pick. He was he was a PPR monster. Naji and Tyrone Tracy go, so I

think my picks here are going to be fairly simple. I'm gonna take Evan Ingram for the PPR value at tight end. They signed him for a reason, and then I'm gonna come back and just take another shot at my running back spot. It is thin and nasty. And like I'm talking, Gervonta and Ramandre, two players where if I draft them, I need a bucket. Because I need to throw up a little bit.

And in PPR, even more so, I feel just kind of gross about, I don't know. I really honestly don't know how much work Javante is going to get, but I know Javante is not what he was. So I'm going to take a third down shot and I'm going to take Kam Scataboo. Yeah, that was who I was going to take. I'm going to take Scataboo, goes two picks after Tyrone Tracy and you had him on the board, Jay? Yes, yes sir.

So Jordan Mason goes next to Betsy. Also great pick. Yeah, yeah, at this stage, ninth round. I mean, we are almost at the end of this draft. You're taking some shots. Jordan Mason and then Egbuka goes at the 903, Jason. You're back on the clock. So there's three players.

Didn't see you fist pump. No, no, there's three players I like here. Devontae Williams, I think is a value in the ninth. Obviously he's not the same. I love Trey Harris, rookie wide receiver for the Los Angeles Chargers. And then a safe pick in Darnell Mooney. So I'm gonna make my decision based on my roster.

Right now I've got Bijon, Chase Brown, RJ Harvey. I'm happy there. T Higgins, Devontae Smith, Jerry Judy. I feel like I could use a little bit more upside at wide receiver, so that dictates that I'm gonna take Trey Harris for the hope that he is the, I think he is a very good wide receiver on playing for Herbert, and he's gonna be

that outside guy that they need. Trey Harris, David Njoku goes next, Patrick Mahomes at 906, Rashid Shahid, Mike back on the clock after the Laporta pick. Oh man. All right, so my team has actually, I have now balanced out the scales here with the three running backs, three wide receivers.

I got my onesie positions filled at this point. Oh man, Givante right here oh yeah he's not what he once was it's an alluring upside pick as the Cowboys will be they will be a strong offense I just I don't know who it's gonna be looking through the rest like Rashad White does he catch enough passes that you're White has the upside of you know if you guys are worried about if you if you worry about the undersized Bucky injury situation yeah for me in though in the ninth like if I'm taking Rashad White I got to feel comfortable that I could flex him you

know if things went wrong you know with with my first three picks. At the wide receiver position, Matthew Golden is there. I didn't realize Kyle went super stack at Kansas City. Worthy Kelsey Mahomes. Man, you got Mahomes and you got the wrong Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, shoulda got Rice. That was weird.

Weirdo. Matthew Golden is there. He was a first round wide receiver I don't know that I believe he should have been but he was for a team that really needs a number one I'm trying to quickly scroll through the wide receivers I'm gonna take Givante here am I am I am I am oh the struggle is really in the ninth. I told you this was an experiment here of starting with three running backs and a quarterback. And it has been difficult.

So remember when I asked you how you were gonna ensure those kind of injury prone guys at the top? I didn't know your answer was gonna be Gervonta. Mm-hmm, that's right. But that was your answer. Cooper Cup. Shimon Garindo. Yeah, that's what I was thinking about that.

Cooper Cup. Gervonta appeared in every game last year, guys. 909, yeah, part of it. Gervonta did not appear in any game last year. Dobbins, Mark Andrews at 9-11. Caleb Williams goes at 9-12. Mr. White, Rashad White at 10-01 and Matthew Golden at 10-02. Yeah. Yeah, Golden was. Would you.01 and Matthew Golden at 10.02.

Yeah. Yeah, Golden was. Would you have taken Golden there? At 10.02? No, at my 9.08. No, I think with your team I would have taken Gurindo. I think that's what I would have done. Would you get another shot at?

But Golden goes, Tucker Craft and Zach Charbonne. You have your second to last pick here, Mike. You're back on the clock. Yeah, in hindsight I wish I would have taken Matthew Golden there just for the upside. Looking through the wide receivers, oh my gosh. I mean Cedric Tillman is there, he's kind of interesting. Romeo Dobbs is bad. He's not bad, he is a very flexible player. He's not bad. He is a very flexible player. He just...

It touches toes. Yeah, no, I never knew. Yeah, I mean, in our dynasty league, I've started Romeo Dobbs on many occasions, and it has, what? What are you pointing at? I'm just pointing at this new tech we have That we are not supposed to do sound effects

We'll just peel back the curtain Yeah, when we're when we're done with this we get we got the warning from the producers. We're good. We're good But yeah, okay. All right. That's why you have a real drum set here All right, we're gonna a real drum set here. All right, we're gonna take some fantasy vegetables here. I'm gonna take Darnell Mooney in the 10th round. Oh, come on, man. I don't think there's much of a difference

between that fantasy vegetable and the one you could've taken three rounds earlier in Jacoby Myers, so that's a great pick. I had two players in my queue from a while ago. They were actually Javonte Williams and Darnell Mooney. And so you just took your last two picks. You double snagged. What an incredible turn of events. Kyle Williams, Brandon Ayuk.

Because I felt terrible about both of them. Ray Davis off the board. And then Jason, your second to last pick here at the ninth pick in the 10th round. Yeah, I'm looking, I feel like I could use another running back more than anything. If I'm, you know, Ramandre Stevenson is out there, but he's playing with a much better player in Trevion Henderson. You got the shot at Jalen Blue being a pass

catching guy. I don't like any of the running backs here. So you can't make me take one. I'm going to take a guy that is not getting enough respect. Michael Pittman is a good wide receiver. I was between him and Mooney I you know, I we can say Josh Downs is the better receiver on this team But Michael Pittman has been a very reliable target and and the the report I think goodness Matt the report out of thank goodness Has been that you know? Pittman is making sure that he is going to get his targets. It's an amazing pick in the 10th round. Thank you, Matthew Betts.

From making sure you didn't have to draft Ramandre? From making sure I didn't have to look at, because Ramandre in the 10th round is stupid value. Ramandre's the starter. Yeah. All the news out of camp is that Henderson has a ways to go and that they're not gonna use him between the tackles to start off. Now that could change, but Ramandre is going to be their number one running back to start the year and that is good enough for a little while in the 10th round.

But thank you for taking him. I'm going to go back to back wide outs here to end my draft. Both of them starting wide outs that are just undervalued. I will take Rashad Bateman with the 12th pick at the 10th round and I will take Calvin Austin who will start and kind of just ignored by everybody in the fantasy community and yet Aaron Rodgers is there and he's an explosive player that can get things done. So I think there's some upside potential in Calvin Austin

as a shot for week one, see what happens, and then you can move on. Tooten, thank you. See, that's a sound effect you can do. Yeah. That's not using the technology. Tyler Warren off the board, Jason, you got your last pick. We're rounding this thing out.

I want a sleeper running back, someone that could surprise. I'm gonna take a complete bust from last year, Jalen Wright, second year running back for the Dolphins and hope that with Moster out of the way. They've been talking about using him more. He's 210 pounds, runs sub 4-4. That's my pick. All right.

Roshan, Trey Benson, Brock Purdy, Julia Gravener, quarterback, the last quarterback. Or actually, there's two teams that need them. Wow. We got some really late rounders. Yeah, Brock goes, and then let's see if I can predict this. Brooks and Brian both need one. Who's Brooks going to take?

Probably Dak. That's my guess. But Mike, you're on the clock. So final pick. A sleeper, I guess. But Mike, you're on the clock. Final pick. A sleeper, I guess. I mean, this was a from superstar to sleeper running back in a PPR format. We're all in agreement that Brian Robinson is a fine value pick because just buying to the Washington offense.

Mm-hmm. That's not a bad picker. Eckler was what? He only showed up in, he only played in 12 games this past year but he was averaging over three targets a game in that time and things could break the right way for him. I'm gonna I'm gonna take Eckler here. All right, Austin Eckler with the last pick of Mike's team. All three of us have finished the draft, so I ended up with Chase, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Diggs, Bateman, and Austin at wide out. Josh Jacobs in the third round with Pacheco and Scadaboo. Definitely my weakness right now is running back and I, you know, you look at that and you say, would I have been happier with a fifth round running back? Maybe. I mean, at that point it was like the rookies, maybe Judkins, and then I could have come

back to quarterback. I ended up with Joe Burrow to stack with Jamar Chase and Evan Ingram in the eighth round as my tight end. I've got Jalen Hertz at the top, John U Smith at my other onesie, and then at running back Bijon Robinson, Chase Brown, RJ Harvey, and Jalen Wright at wide receiver, T Higgins, Devonte Smith, Jerry, Judy, Trey Harris, and Michael Pitman Jr. Running back I got CMC, Devon A Chan, Alvin Kamara, Givante, and Austin Eckler. My wide outs are Jemo Williams, Crystal Lave, Khalil Shakir, and Darnell Mooney.

Then I got Josh Allen and Sam Laporta at my onesie positions. The draft ended with Wondale, Herbert, Kyler, and Fields. Dude. So there was a- Kyler with your last pick? Yeah, that's a- Yeah, oh, yeah. Kyler with your last pick? Kyler in the last round. Yeah, that's a... Yeah, oh, yeah.

I do it. Kyler two rounds behind Caleb? Silly. Silly. That's how it fell. And then Caleb gets combo'd with Justin Fields. Two of the last three picks for the Falcons. So there you go, a 12-team full PPR mock draft.

Some good moments in there. I feel okay. I feel okay. Yeah. Jason, can you upgrade? Okay. I feel pretty good. I mean, because you got Judy. Yeah. I mean, Jerry Judy in the seventh. That's, you know, walk off home run. No, I think the, I think rounds six through 10 for me made me feel better about the quality of the roster. That's a good baseball reference, Jason. Footballers AMA episode coming up. Too hot to handle. Divisional breakdowns, a lot more coming your way. If you want to be a part of the community, please go over to jointhefoot.com. And we've got thousands of fantasy football fanatics

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