Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Mock Draft Mayhem: Head-to-Head Battle! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/1

Episode Date: July 1, 2023

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Conditions apply. Scotiabank, you're richer than you think. Hey, Foot Clan, we have a great mock draft episode for you today, complete with a bunch of mayhem. But before we get started, I want to remind you the Ultimate Draft Kit is out right now and today is the day that the draft analyzer is released. You can learn all about how you can dominate your fantasy football draft with our suite of tools and resources to help you at ultimatedraftkit.com. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in.

Here we are. July 1st. Yes, do not check the date of your calendar. We are here and it is Saturday. Saturday, July 1st, Mike. The beginning of the season in a lot of ways. We're up to three shows a week. Happy to have you with us.

I imagine some people were probably surprised to see that. They're checking their podcast app on Spotify and Apple, wherever you're listening, and you see a new episode pop up on Spotify and Apple, wherever you're listening and you see a new episode pop up and you say, Hey, I'm in my underpants. I was about to mow the lawn in my underpants. And is that not? Well, yeah, we're in Arizona. Everyone mows their lawn in their underpants. It's too hot to go outside with clothes on.

I mean, I feel like that's safe in the backyard. At least it should be. And then we've got a new episode for you. So welcome, man. We're excited. Yep. Having a schedule. We've been on this schedule now for our ninth season. Yeah. Ninth season, and yet

it still surprises people when we jump to three shows in July. It surprises me sometimes. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how calendars work. I never know when it's going It surprises me sometimes. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how calendars work. I never know when it's going to be another month. Yeah, and this is the reason we go to Saturday shows and go to three a week is because this is now July 1st where people start checking back in.

I've already seen messages on Twitter of like, hey, time to hop back into fantasy, time to get prepared. A lot of the casuals, the casuals, they start in August. Absolutely. But you listening now, oh, you're going to dominate them casuals the casuals they start in august absolutely but you listening now oh you're gonna dominate them casuals faces off couldn't have said it better myself uh they'll be like what where my face it's off today is a mock draft episode but not just any mock draft jason and i are going head to head but this is the second ever mock draft mayhem yeah thanks that was perfect mock draft mayhem episode which means mike will have a tremendous amount of control look at me during this look at

me i'm the captain now he will be able to ruin us in many ways put us in a position where look we say mock drafting is a wonderful exercise throughout the offseason, but the real truth of your actual draft is you're going to be in a different position. You're going to be surprised. You're going to be reeling when the player you wanted goes around before you thought they were going to go, and you're going to have to think on your feet. So Jason and I today will be facing off trying to build the best roster we can but mike will be using some power-ups against us and we're looking forward to that that'll start momentarily and last year we did this i had the power mike demanded the power this year yeah now jason i know you oh

next time yeah next time there will be mayhem the next two mock drafts are going to be pretty cool. That'll be mayhem. Thank you. Yes. A new nickname. One of the favorite months. Mayhem. I'm writing that one down.

Mayhem. That is the month of the year Jason enjoys him the most. But no, it's going to be fun. And then the next mock draft after this one, I'm not sure what the timeline is on it, but the deuces are going to be involved. people have been asking for them to participate i've been asking for the opportunity to mock them publicly on the show for their picks they've been and those things have come together they've been crying oh yeah shaking saying we don't put us on the mock draft they've all bought the udk and they're prepping up. I don't know why they're Jimmy Stewart with a really high voice, but they are.

But they are. I said it at the top, ultimatedraftkit.com. The draft analyzer is out right now. It came out today. That lets you import your team from Sleeper, Yahoo, ESPN, or you can manually import your team and run it through the draft analyzer. We're going to break down your strengths or weaknesses, which fantasy footballer associates with your team the most and likes it the

most. Tell you where your values are, where your weaknesses are. It's going to be like, get in there. It's on the app. It's on the web. It's part of the UDK plus,

and it's easy. If you just have the UDK to upgrade, if you want access to that right now, ultimate draft kit dot com. Without further ado. News and notes from around the league. I feel like that was very misleading. Yeah, I thought we were going into the mock draft. Yeah, because this is more further ado to wait for the

mayhem mock draft it's like and now the moment we've been talking about that you've been waiting for liar the news the news all right all right i think i think you're 100 right about that i should have said let's move on or something yeah like. Or maybe even, let's get into the news. That would work. You really built up this news section. So, welcome to more ado. Yes. And there couldn't be something more ado than Devontae Parker signing a three-year extension with the New England Patriots.

$14 million in guarantees. That's the number. It's up to $33 million in value but uh some people saw this and said hey why yeah uh i think that's fair uh warren sharp put out a tweet so good highlighting uh devante parker's separation numbers using next gen stats that's never been his game though during ever but but listen it cannot be your game but it can still be unbelievable to do this to finish oh i had not seen the tweet okay yeah he finished in 2020 132nd out of 132 wide receivers in 2021 he finished 127th out of 127 wide receivers. And then in last year,

he was 122nd out of 122 wide receivers. So dead last in separation ranking for three consecutive years. And you're right. It's not his game. Like, you know, it was never Alan Robinson's game. He was always very low in those numbers,

even in his peak years. However, dead last three consecutive years, not having separation at all is not a benefit to you as a wide receiver 33 million dollars it's i mean it's it's a one year 14 million is how i'm looking at it's too much for what he brings to the table what is ironic is you know i i've seen some people be like oh so they're they're out of the Hopkins race. There's actually, this is tied to the way that they restructured this, actually opened up some cap space in a way that might allow the team to sign DeAndre Hopkins.

So while it seems counterintuitive, this move could actually be caused in order to get DeAndre Hopkins on the Patriots. Part of the path, yeah. And, you know, Juju Smith-Schuster is not healthy yet so he's missed all of the New England off-season program he's been rehabbing the knee injury um it's been a chronic issue for him they don't have Jacoby Myers anymore like there's a world where Devante Parker if they don't sign DeAndre Hopkins has some relevance this year. And if Hopkins is signed, which look, I, I guess I'd put my,

the odds that new England is at the top of that list. I mean, I think new England is, is likely to get him because he's eventually going to settle for less money. Yeah. That that's right now my number one destination, but you know, Parker, Parker will have some touchdowns and he'll have some relevance but in most leagues I mean I can't see a normal redraft league if they don't sign Hopkins a juju isn't healthy I I still don't know if I would use my last pick on Devante Parker yeah it's totally fair but he could be one of those players that you see on the waiver wire after week one where he catches a couple touchdowns and you're like oh okay I'll pay attention.

He did some good work for himself. Oh, I was getting into the hype train, Mike. He finished the year with six for 79 and two touchdowns against Buffalo. Trying to see if this train will run Mike off. You can't stop me. Nick Chubb, news out of Cleveland. Browns running back coach Thump Mitchell saying he'll have the opportunity to catch more passes so people will see that he's more than just a running back.

Nick Chubb is ranked extremely high. I mean, he's unbelievable. Yeah, he's my running back three right now. Has been pretty much since we launched the UDK because if you just look at, you know, that's the nice thing about statting these players out and looking at, you know, Kareem Hunt is gone and this team is going to pass more. There's just not a world where he doesn't catch more balls like that to have the coach come out and say what kind of the analytics pointed to already. It's really nice affirmation, but this

is, um, I think this should be the expectation this year. And if we went back two years, three years, four years ago and said, hey, this Nick Chubb guy who's always leading the league or near the top of rushing yardage and one of the best running backs in the league, if he were to catch 40 or 50 passes in a season, how would he be for fantasy? I think we know the answer. if he were to catch 40 or 50 passes in a season, how would he be for fantasy? I think we know the answer. Last year, he was the number one running back through the first 10 weeks.

So you're going to be extraordinarily happy with that if he ends up with more targets and more receptions. During that run, the first 10 weeks where he was the number one running back, he would have caught 24 passes. So he wasn't actually catching any passes during that time and was still that dominant. So, yeah, I mean, he should be on the radar number three, number two, number one.

I mean, I don't mind any of those selections. Yeah, we'll see how the targets shake out. But when Deshaun Watson got into the game after serving his suspension, we saw about a 21% target share to the running back position. That would have been 14th in that time span. But the wide receiver targets were very low. So we'll see if the addition of Cedric Tillman, Elijah Moore, we'll see that that could juice that number up and take away from the running backs, but 21%? I mean, okay, that's middle of the pack.

The idea of seeing him out there on third down is what attracts me. Sure. Because they don't have the depth that they had. Kareem Hunt, during most of his tenure in Cleveland, was a starting caliber running back that demanded time on the field and was a better pass catcher. Chubb is probably the best that they have, even in that role. So Miles Sanders also rumors there about catching more passes with Carolina, Frank Reich talking

about it on video. Yeah, I was going to say, you know, I don't know if rumors is the right word. You know, sometimes you hear a beat reporter say, oh, I expect so-and-so to catch more passes. This was a video of the general manager and Miles Sanders and the head coach talking about we're going to need you to catch more passes this year like you did when you caught 50. Great. Yes.

We'll see. I mean, he came in his rookie year with Frank Reich and caught, I think it was 50 passes. Yeah, 63 targets, 50 for 509. Yeah, I mean. That would be huge for him. And they signed him to a big money deal for a running back. So I 100% believe it.

This is why I, you know, these are two players that when we first launched the UDK, I was much higher than what I expected. And both were because of this. Just the pass catching ability and necessity for these offenses. All right, let's see if this last piece of hype gets you excited. NFL Network's James Palmer talking about multiple people in the Broncos building believing Tim Patrick is the best football player in the team's wide receiver room. That's a hot take.

About Jerry Judy, but Tim Patrick was the one mean a lot of excitement about jerry judy but tim patrick was the one getting a lot of press heading into last year's camp with russell wilson the best rapport with russell wilson before his acl injury hearing this news um you know it puts him on the radar for fantasy it puts him in a position where i'd certainly like i'm I'm not touching Cortland Sutton in any circumstance. Yeah. And so Jerry Judy, I'm interested in. But Tim Patrick, it's very, you know, his injury was very early last year. It was just it was been training camp.

And so I do like the skill set that he has. Yeah. The the news matters. If you're doing like underdog best balls, you're going 18 rounds, you can get right near the end of the draft and find Tim Patrick who will have his games of relevance. But, you know, this is hype train on Tim Patrick, but it's also kind of a little bit negative for some of the other pieces.

Obviously, there's Cortland Sutton, there's Jerry Judy, there's Marvin Mims, the rookie. And there's another piece Sutton, there's Jerry Judy, there's Marvin Mims, the rookie. And there's another piece of news recently that came out that said that Jared Stidham is outplaying Russell Wilson. No. Yeah. Have you guys seen that? I have not seen it.

So that's not good. No, that's not good. I believe it only because I watched Russell Wilson all season last year as I'm sure y'all did. This is a problem. So if you're telling me that Tim Patrick, hey, he's healthy, he's in the mix. Now we got like four good wide receivers and Greg Dulcich and Russell Wilson still sucks. That is like

sign me out of that. I don't want Hey, sign me out. Do you know how big of uh cojones that this team and the head coach would have to have to make that pivot oh but you they have it i mean they have this is sean payton's team now russell wilson sure they have an out i mean if if sean payton comes in and Russell Wilson sucks and he says, yeah, we're not going to do this.

We're going to cut you at the end of the season, move on, take a giant dead cap, that could happen. Maybe you're right, but I have to believe that a majority of the conversations in bringing in Sean Payton was, help us not have wasted all of this money. You are the guy to fix the problem that happened last year with this monumental investment. I don't know if the team would give him that ability or not. Yeah, I mean, obviously that's their goal.

Best case scenario for everyone involved with the Broncos is that Russell Wilson regains his Hall of Fame worthy career, you know career at the direction of Sean Payton. But I do believe that the long-term investment of the franchise is far more committed to Sean Payton than it is to Russell Wilson. Now, what if I told you the account that tweeted out the news about Jarrett Stidham in their bio. It says Jarrett Stidham hype man. Now, did they change it after that? I mean, I don't know that it matters. Look, I am anti-Russell Wilson, so I'll take all bias.

Also, I don't know how we made it through an entire segment here, Tim Patrick segment, and not even say Fireball Jones, which is his true birth name. If you look at the certificate, the doctor signed it. Yeah, Fireball Jones. He's back, baby. I was a little worried that maybe the nickname is what really maybe set him up for failure last year.

Like a Smash Jackson, Paul Perkins situation? Yeah. No, never. that maybe the nickname is what really maybe set him up for failure last year like a uh smash jackson paul perkins situation yeah like no never so yeah fireball jones could be relevant this year i am you know much more optimistic in him having him and judy having relevance than than jason the jared stidham truther but um because there's far worse situations in fantasy, I think, for rookie quarterbacks, unproven quarterbacks, where we're still looking and paying attention to the wide receivers. Jerry Judy, despite the absolute disgusting performances last year, still had games that mattered.

So we'll see. Denver was Sean Payton. It could be a little bit of a renewal. That is it for hype. I look good at the end. Denver with Sean Payton. It could be a little bit of a renewal. That is it for hype. I don't have anything else. There's no more ado? There is one more ado. At Wealthsimple, we're built for whatever you're building.

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Are you prepared? I don't even believe you at this point. You've got your quatch hat on, and it's time to do it. Quatch hat on. The Fantasy Footballers Mock Draft. the fantasy footballers mock draft well here we are jason we're going head to head but mike is here to ruin the day mike has three mayhems that he can use on each of us during the draft. They're up on the screen.

If you're watching on YouTube, here is what Mike has control over. He can make us, he can veto a pick, which will make us choose a different player. And he can use that once on each of us. He can replace a pick with his own choice, which he can also use once on each of us.

And then the final one is he can make it opponent's choice. So he will give me the ability to pick your player and you the ability to pick my player. It is a 12-team half PPR draft. I am drafting from the three spot. Jason's in the sixth spot. One quarterback, two running backs, two wide receivers, one tight end

one flex four bench jason you seem you seem nervous you're like a little sweaty yeah so you know you're you're you're laying the groundwork you're setting up the rules and you're illustrating what mike's options are he can make us repick he can pick for himself or our opponent can pick and i'm sitting at the 106 and i have a lot of fear that I know exactly that I just, I think I know one thing that's coming, but we'll see. So, um,

I don't know. Like if you think about our three personalities, I tend to think Mike is the most merciless with power. So I think that this could be a very dangerous draft for us. And, um, So I think that this could be a very dangerous draft for us. And he is also very attuned to sensing when we are really hoping he doesn't do something. And so I'm going to try to see how much psychological warfare we can do. I'm going to do a lot of aura reading. Oh, good, good, good.

What color is Jason's aura, by the way? Right now? Yeah. Blue. Blue. Okay. That's right. He was right. That's impressive.

So here we go. The draft has begun. And look, we're seeing this more and more. Justin Jefferson at the 101. Jamar Chase at the 102. And I'm sitting here at the 103. Yeah, that's a gift. And it's Christian McCaffrey.

So I'm going to take him. We have seen, what, an average of four or five running backs going in the first 12 picks. That is not normal from the last nine years. Yes, sorry. And so I'm going to... I just saw that Travis Kelsey went at the 105, which means Mike can't make me into Travis Kelsey in the first, which is what I assume is happening.

And I was not going to. Oh, good. But I wanted you to sweat it out, so I'm a little bit disappointed here with Team 5. And I know I need to be patient when I make these picks to give Mike the opportunity to destroy me um getting christian mccaffrey at 103 did uh spark my interest here to use a power up right away but you're just letting it just settle in you're letting us get a sense of security i gotta let the dust settle and then find my way so

jefferson jamar chase i took christ Christian McCaffrey, a gift at 103. I was really worried about that pick being stopped because I didn't have a strong conviction with the number three pick with other players. Which is why you didn't give Mike the opportunity for mayhem. That's right. I just smashed the bus. I'm doing this.

No, we can go back. No, no, we're good. We're good. Austin Eckler went 104. Travis Kelsey at 105. Another thing we're seeing a lot this offseason, Kelsey inside the top five because of that conundrum. You get to the point where you're like, well, I know he's great,

and I'm unsure about these other options at running back. Jason's on the clock. This is an easy pick for me. This would be Cooper Cup, who I've talked about recently. I could take him at the 101. I could take him at the 101 i could take him at the 102 the 103 certainly here at the 106 when if christian mcafree and austin eckler are gone um and cooper cup is available that would be my pick i will take cooper cup i'll allow it oh all right i'm just waiting all right cooper cup that was waiting. All right, Cooper Cup. That was the moment. Mike's finger.

You couldn't hear it on the podcast, but it was creeping. People could feel it. It was creeping towards the button. So, man, unscathed in the first round. Man, generous, kind, handsome. Yeah, thank you. That would have been my pick if McCaffrey was stolen from me by Mike. So, Cooper Cup at 106, great pick.

Bijan Robinson at 107. Tyreek at 108. A couple running backs, Jonathan Taylor, Nick Chubb. CeeDee Lamb and A.J. Brown rounding out the first round. Second round begins with Stephon Diggs, then Saquon Barkley and Derek Henry. Both of those players seem like, you know, not a bad place to be in the second round. And then Amon Ross St. Brown, Devontae Adams, and then uh almonra saint brown devante adams and then patrick mahomes and jason back on the clock with cooper cup just setting the foundation of just a great team on the

way yeah just a great team on the way there's a couple players that i had hoped dropped to me that didn't um i'm really proud of what's happened to the adP Chubb. About a month or two ago, he was falling to the 2-3 turn. Now he's in the first round, which is where he belongs. But Derrick Henry has fallen. I've seen him in the third round. I would have loved to grab him. He's not there. Since I've got Cooper Cup, if there is a great running back left,

I would go that direction, and there is to me. It's Josh Jacobs. So if I am allowed to pick, my pick would be to pair Cooper Cup with Josh Jacobs. And no. Mayhem. Yeah. Yeah, here we go.

There's no way that that was going to happen. No. Because it was too delicious. No, that is not going to happen, and we're going to see. Yeah, what power-up are you using? I'm going to happen. No. Because it was too delicious. No. That is not going to happen. And we're going to see. What power up are you using? I'm going to pick. Oh, okay. Four Jason. Yeah. And we're going to see. I can't even rejoice that much because

if I overindulge in what's happening to you, then you're going to get it. The trap is set for me. What happens here to Jason's team? Should he a lot of drafters are dealing with this situation of, what do I do with the big-name quarterbacks? If I take them early, what does my team look like?

Well, Jason's going to find out. Oh, man. I'm going to give you, Jason. Which one? I'm going to give you Jalen Hurts. Yeah, my man. I didn't know if you were going to. I showed a little bit.

Do you have Hurts or Allen ranked higher? I have Josh Allen ranked higher in my rankings, but you know that Jalen Hurts is my guy. So I hurt you a little bit, but then I put the band-aid on. Yeah. All right. Oh, geez. This should be fun. I'm over here because I, too, have found good fortune in this draft. Jason has Kup and Jalen Hurts.

And then Waddle, because Jalen Hurts goes early, and I do want to point this out before disaster strikes my team. With Mahomes and Hurts going in the second round, it was Waddle and Pollard that win next. When quarterbacks go early, like we've talked about this. It's not a late-round quarterback universe right now, but that doesn't mean that the realities that we brought up in late-round advice aren't true, which is that when positions,

onesie positions like quarterbacks and tight ends go early, it pushes down value at the other positions. Josh Jacobs is still on the table for me at 2-10. That would be a great start. That would be such a good start. And that will be my pick if I'm allowed to make it. Great pick, Andy. It will be Josh Jacobs.

What a great pick. Lock that in. You son of a gun. I knew it. Really? I'm good? Of course. Yes, of course.

Joshua Jacobs. Because that's the way better decision mike is nailing this the fact that i mean that's just putting an he gets an extra jab here because he saves his mayhem pick on not using mayhem but causes mayhem just back to me again did you want jacobs because i got it uh no he got jalen hurts he got the guy he wanted so i start with tier one tier two running backs christian mcafree josh jacobs josh allen goes next breeze hall travis etn and remandre stevenson so the running back run has begun and jason has none of them yet yeah um i am back on the clock with mcarey and Jacobs, third pick of the third round. Looking at the landscape here with those two running backs,

I mean, this is kind of going back in time to the strategy that is most often played out by my teams, which is if you have powerhouses at that position, the freedom you feel the rest of the draft is significant. I have lower tier running backs I like later. I don't feel a pressure to go grab one now. If I wanted to, the guys on the board that are actually the most attractive to me is Jameer Gibbs because what better position than having Jacobs and McCaffrey to let Gibbs be this potential top-tier running back?

Otherwise, Najee Harris, Kenneth Walker, Mixon, Dobbins, I'm not as enthusiastic. At wide receiver, it's Garrett Wilson on the board right now, Olave. Boy, I'm actually tempted to take Gibbs and go three running back to start this draft. I think that will be my pick unless it is ruined by Mike. I think Garrett Wilson obviously is jumping out at me,

but I think the idea of adding Gibbs and maybe actually having three of the top eight running backs potentially in PPR. I am going to. I'm a little surprised here. Right. I'm trying to throw you off, Mike. You did. You mayhemmed the mayhem because I was going to force a very high T start for you.

I was going to make you go triple running back, but then you said, no, I have more tee than you think. So I'm good. Yeah, you could start with your three running backs. I'm not feeling the mayhem at all. Jameer Gibbs is the pick. Garrett Wilson went next. I think that's what the most

people listening probably expected Garrett Wilson off the board there. And that's where Mike would have been. But I do. I am very enthusiastic about Jameer Gibbs' potential. And there's no better play. Like, I don't want to bet on him necessarily to start the year being this, like, league winner.

But I don't have to with those other two guys. So, back to Jason on the clock. Garrett Wilson and T. Higgins go back-to-back. I don't know if Higgins would have been tempting for you there. No. I like Higgins in the third round, but Higgins and Devontae Smith are very, very similar. Obviously, they're both the wide receiver twos

that are extremely talented for their team. The fact that I have Jalen Hurts, if I was going to be picking between Tee Higgins and Devontae Smith, I would have chosen Devontae Smith. Right now, I'm in the third round. I don't have a running back. So this is where, if there's no running back I like, I'm going to go pretty much zero RB and just figure it out, draft a handful of later round running backs, and try to take

that strategy. There is, however, one running back that I like on the board. There's only one? Well, there's only one to me that is in. Too much information. Look, I'm trying to help the people um to me Najee Harris is still a a running back one I think he gets the work the upgrades on the offensive line I don't think can be overstated for the Steelers considering how bad they were they were a back half bottom tier offense last year I believe the Steelers this

year are going to be a middle-of-the-pack offense, and that's a huge jump. A lot of times we only think of big jumps as in which offenses are going to become a top-five, top-six scoring offense. But if we're drafting all the Steelers based on what happened last year when they were putrid, and then they move up to a middle-tier offense, that's a huge value-back. Can I ask you a question

about that then with your confidence of them moving to middle of the pack something we never would have considered as a you know during last season you like Deontay Johnson he was brought up on the show are you actually willing to have two Steelers on your roster yeah I think I would be I mean this isn't it's because of the value you know it's not like I'm spending a second and third to get those two guys. I would be spending a third and a seventh to get those two guys. So if I'm allowed to make this pick, usually in the middle of the third when Mark Andrews is available and he is, that's an auto pick for me. But because Mike forced a quarterback, I don't like having a quarterback

and tight end. You run out of other positions. Shouldn't have said that. I will draft Najeeris if i am allowed yep make it go through also um just as a note because you are for through your first three rounds allowed to get your own picks when mike uses his opponent mayhem i'm a i'm gonna come after you bro you're getting tom brady good good yeah yeah no good i get it um so nagi harris is Tom Brady. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Good to know. I get it.

So Najee Harris is the pick. If Mike had handed me your pick there, I would have gone Mark Andrews to 1ZU, double 1ZU, to see what that looks like. Olave goes next. Mark Andrews does go off the board, and then it's Debo, Ken Walker, Devontae Smith, Amari Cooper. And then going into the fourth round,

we have Metcalf, a pair of quarterbacks back to back Burrow and Lamar. I would have considered Burrow a little bit here in the fourth. Keenan Allen, Aaron Jones and Calvin Ridley. Aaron Jones in the middle of the fourth. That's one. I feel like you might look back on after the year and go,

wow, that's a steal. Jason, back on the clock here in the fourth round. Yeah, he is. I am. You know, I think it's worth saying. So if you would have given me Mark Andrews and I would have onesied, onesied. It's funny because I love Cooper Cup. In the middle of the first, love it.

I love Jalen Hurts. I think he's going to be phenomenal. He was a my guy last year, and I would love to have him. And I just said Mark Andrews is my favorite pick in the middle of the first love it I love Jalen Hurts I think he's going to be phenomenal he was a my guy last year and I would I would love to have him and I just said Mark Andrews is a is my favorite pick in the middle of third so you'd have three great picks but that highlights how important roster construction is and thinking through your whole draft not just who's the guy I like on the clock um that was a hard word to say you know I? I didn't even say anything. But here's the thing, Jason. You took Najee Harris. You could have taken Mark Andrews.

Here's the fourth round, and you have Mixon and Dobbins on the board. You have Miles Sanders, who you love, on the board. Cam Akers, who you love, on the board. Any regrets of not going onesie? Because you could have built a decently strong running back room and had maybe the best at each position for those other three. Yeah, it would have been interesting to see how it works because I don't usually do it.

At the end of the drafts, I mean, obviously, I like mixing. In fact, if I'm allowed to make a pick, that's going to be my pick here because mayhem. Okay. Okay. Yeah. No, go ahead. Man, you were talking through all those guys you like.

I'm like, that's interesting. But more interesting to me is who would Andy pick if he were on the clock with your team right now? Oh, I already have it. I know. I already have it. I think I know who you're picking. I was sending you telepathic messages.

You've kind of taken the beating so far, right? And by kind of, you've had the entirety of the beating so far. But look, I know how much you love this guy. You might not love anybody as much as this guy. So in the fourth round, why not pair Cooper Cup, who I assume is your number two wide receiver, with your number one? That is who I thought. Terry McLaurin.

That is who I assumed you would give me and the nice please select terry mclaurin the nice news is that if the if mike had picked you got off easy i did if mike had picked that i just need to repick and choose someone else i would have chosen terry mclaurin so okay um i thought you were gonna be more ravenous you thought he was going hawkins i thought you were going to give him up. I was going to be more ravenous. You thought he was going Hawkinson? I thought he was going Hawkinson. That would have been, I don't know. I don't know if he could have survived that. But Terry McLaurin here ahead of a running back need with some other wideouts on the board. You know, I know you love him.

You got to have him. Justin Fields goes next. TJ Hawkinson after that. I have McCaffrey, Jacobs, and Gibbs. Running back is, well, pretty much off the table for me. Great. I mean, never say never.

That's a real problem. See, I think I realize now the risks associated with positional stacking in a draft like this. If I'm allowed to make the pick i'm not happy with how thinned out the wide receiver room has gone gotten uh there's not there's a lot of names that you recognize hollywood and mike williams and godwin and Judy. Justin Herbert is sitting there as a potential tear break at quarterback.

Kittle and Pitts are not really in strong consideration. I'd like to go. I think if it is my pick, I think I'm going to go to Mike Williams here. I think that's going to be the pick, but it's not. Yes. There's no chance. I'm not going to get a balance this team. No.

And, I mean, it's like tit for tat. You know, Andy picked for Jason. Give it to me. And I think that we'll see if Jason is as merciful to Andy. Jason, please make the pick. Yes, I would love to. I want to be merciful to my good friend Andy. Because right now he obviously has Chris McCaffrey, Josh Jacobs,

and Jameer Gibbs. That's robust. That's robust running back. But it's also – I made a mistake. It gives you the power to maybe take someone who's got great upside, but a lot of risk because, you know, you've got running backs to cover up if it doesn't work out.

So I think Cam Akers is perfect for this spot where i mean you're talking about a guy who could be a top six running back i mean he could be out of the league but there's so many running backs so now you have christian mcafree josh jacobs jameer gibbs and cam acres in the history of the fantasy footballers we have never started a draft it's with not going to go well for you, man. And we've got time left. So camp makers, huh? Yeah. Congrats.

I like camp makers. Whatever the opposite of zero RB is, that's what I'm running out there. McCaffrey, Jacobs, Gibbs, and Akers. This is new territory. Hopkins, Mixon, Herbert, and Dobbins go next. I'm back on the clock. Don't do it.

But Mike could give you a running back here. Mike Williams would have been my pick again. I can't believe Mike Williams made it through that turn there. But, I mean, come on. We got to build. This is a squad. This is IT. Williams made it through that turn there. But, I mean, come on. We got to build. This is a squad. This is IT.

Look, Dan Campbell. If Dan Campbell played fantasy football, he would give you. This is absurd. The absolute seal of approval. What did I do with Gibbs in the third? I set the table for my own demise. I will be merciful because I'm giving you a player that I love. You don't love him as much as I do, but I'm just going to share the gift of the brand new starting running back

for the Minnesota Vikings, Alexander Madison. Yes, this five running back start. Let's see. Oh, and I hate start. Let's see. Oh, and I hate Madison. Let's see what happens. Oh, it started so good. This has gotten even better. McCaffrey, Jacobs, Gibbs, Akers, Madison.

Yeah. That is a strong running back room you have there. Can you run? Can you? Now that you're going to be up in the sixth round, can you run through your tight end quarterback and wide receivers? Yeah, hold on. Done. Yeah.

All right. Oh, it was compounded by the, like, Miles Sanders was there. I thought maybe you'd give me James Conner, but no, you give me Alexander Madison. All right. But he has my fifth RB, so i'm feeling he's just he's along with three others um all right jerry judy off the board jason mercifully back on the clock now from the the mayhem tracker here mike has mike has one mayhem left for each of us yeah i have my

nope which is just he's going to shut something down yeah and we have to and we get to pick again and make a different selection so i'm on the clock here i've got cooper cup which means i can that means i'm guaranteed to be able to draft another position yeah you you i am not getting six rbs to start this draft it's it's beautiful man this is wild man wild the gift of jacobs and gibbs which I thought Mike was giving me, was a curse. All right. Mike, you have Kup, Hertz, Najee, and Terry McLaurin. Jason does.

Yeah, I'm sorry. Jason does. I regret giving him Terry McLaurin. I should have done something far worse. But you're back on the clock. All right. So here I think I'm in a position to take the best player available. If there's a great running back, if there's a great wide receiver,

someone that I believe in, I will take them. There's a handful of wide receivers I like. And at running back, there are a couple running backs that I think could be good. There's one running back I like. That would be James Conner. I only have one running back. So I would take James Conner if allowed to make the pick. Mike is giving the nod of approval.

Yeah, Mike seems like he needs to give his finger a rest. He's pushed that button too much. I'm a little worn out over here. So now I'm okay with the Hurts in the second, because Hurts is going to be awesome and dominating this season. The fact that I was able to get what two running backs I believe in, in Najee and James Conner, to go with the number one and number two wide receiver, Cooper Cupp and Terry McLaurin.

Which one's number one? Well, Terry McLaurin. Okay. If you need to trade for a running back at some point during the season, I'm available. I know where to go. I'm taking offers. Hey, Team 12 doesn't have one yet.

No, they don't. They went almost full wide receiver stack. After Conner, I'll go quickly. Kittle, Cook, DJ Moore, Damian Pierce, Drake Lundin, Chris Godwin. Godwin at 5'12". Interesting potential value there. stack uh after connor i'll go quickly kiddo cook dj moore damian pierce drake london chris godwin godwin at 512 interesting potential value there pits and goddard back to back um not that i have the luxury of looking tight into quarterback right now christian watson deandre swift hollywood rashad white jason's back on the clock you know holly Hollywood was someone I was hoping would sneak all the way through to be my wide receiver one, but Jason may ruin my plans on the remaining wide receivers here.

We'll see. Yeah, I mean, I hope to. No matter what, mayhem or not on this pick, I'm certainly taking a wide receiver away from you. I am sitting here on the clock. If Kyle Pitts had made it to me, this is a spot in the middle of the sixth where Kyle Pitts gets too often, and I would have drafted him.

He went at the top of the sixth. So I'm going to go with a guy who somehow is still on the board. Don't do it. Mike Williams, who you wanted three picks ago, two picks ago. I tried to take him two times. Yeah. Yep, I'll allow it. All right, my man.

Oh, good, because Tyler Lockett was still there. And I was just worried there were two great wide receivers still left. We have enough rounds where I was hoping I didn't have to burn my final power up. But seeing Tyler Lockett make it onto your squad here would have been very disappointing. But you and Mike Williams. And then Lockett, though, went ahead of me. So Camara in between those two picks. I'm on the clock.

Are you sad that Camara went? You're a little disappointed you can't drop them should something happen to him you could wait it out very easily not sad and uh here's the deal i've got five running backs i'm taking a wide receiver when you're in a position where this is my wide receiver one, there are names on the board that I am excited about this year. I like Brandon Ayuk a ton. I've talked about it. I like upside of Jahan Dotson, but there is one player on the board that will fill this role of wide

receiver one. And I will have enough confidence that he can do it. That is being massively undervalued, in my opinion. That has done it every year for a generation. I don't even know where you're going. He's going Mike Evans. Mike Evans is the pick. Really?

Mike Evans at 6'10", Godwin 5'12". Welcome to the locket. Oh, I should not have selected you without giving you permission. Mike Evans is fine. This is the locket Metcalf situation of last year. Quarterback confidence dwindles. Metcalf and Lockett were undervalued. That's what I see with Godwin Evans.

I'm okay with him as my first... I almost feel better than Mike Williams in that situation. Just knowing that week-to-week Mike Evans is that premier target. I'll take him there, and then goes Pittman, Givante, Javante, Deontay,

which would have been my pick with the next one. If Mike, let me have him. And unfortunately, Brandon, I, you went next, who also would have been my pick.

So I need to at least glance at the other positions. Darren Waller, the best available tight end at quarterback. I can't do it right now with how thin my wide receiver core is, but Lawrence to a – I'm just going to have to play that late with the hand I've been dealt by you sons of guns. So at this point, I'm looking at wide receiver. I'm thinking about Jahan Dotson. I'm looking at Traylon Burks.

He came into camp in great shape. Yeah, the news has been very positive on Burks. So I think I'm going to go with the strategy here at wide receiver of top target in the offense. I view Evans as that, and I view Traylon Burks as that. If you're allowed. If I'm allowed. I will allow it.

So Mike's saving that so I can have fear throughout the remainder of the draft. Evans and Traylon Burks, look, it's not my dream team starting a wide receiver, but what I know is that they're both going to receive regular targets on a weekly basis. I know you like Traylon Burks, Jason. I do like Traylon Burks. He would have been my pick without question. He was highest in my queue.

I was ready to try to select him if Mayhem did not intervene. I am balanced right now enough in this type of a league. I've got two running backs, three wide receivers, and Jalen Hurts. I'm not in love with any of the tight ends. Usually in the middle of the draft, I don't do tight ends. I'm going to take Mark Andrews in the third. I'm going to take Kyle Pitts in the sixth, and then I'm going super late whoever is available with one of my last picks so having Jalen Hurts and having that strategy for me at tight end that means I'm just looking at running backs and wide receivers and I like a lot of them I really like Jordan Addison I would have probably

selected Jahan Dotson here this is this is one of those situations where we've we've talked about this over the last couple months. When you take a Terry McLaurin and you like Jahan Dotson, Terry McLaurin, I think, is the better player, will have a better fantasy season, is worthy of the pick. I liked the pick. But it does take Jahan Dotson out, who might be a better value because now here we are three rounds later and he's available.

But I love Jordan Addison. I'm happy to take Jordan Addison. And I like David Montgomery at running back so given all of that I would which one do you like the most I would select hmm let me think how I want to play this the first ever like you say a name that you don't want to pick to try to get me to push the button maybe but then I don't push the button and you end up drafting someone you don't want. Or do I make you think that I think that, and instead I'm going to go Jordan Addison, if you allow it. No. Yes, I got you, sucker!

I wanted David Montgomery! I beat the man! I out-thoughtought the thinker. Oh, I had three wide receivers and two running backs and only David Montgomery I wanted. Booyah. He seems happy, Mike. And David Montgomery.

He seems real happy. David Montgomery, James Conner, Najee Harris. Nicely done. Not a bad way to piece your running back room together after Cup and Hurts to start the draft. You're back on the clock after Montgomery, Pacheco, Dak Prescott,

Prescott, Jackson Smith, Darren Waller, Dak Prescott. Is he called Brass? I heard something like that. Brass Musket. Brass Musket quarterback. Bill Braske. Brass musket. Quarterback. Bill Braske.

Bill Braske. Jackson Smith and Jigba, Waller, Dillon, Watson, B-Rob, Kirk, Dotson, Addison, Pickens, and Tony. So it's really nice seeing a big run of more wideouts. Yeah, I was a little sad at that. There was a piece of me that hoped jordan addison would make a background i think his situation in minnesota and his talent um will will really uh blossom and shine so since there was a run of wide receivers flowers do yeah they blossom and then they shine you know like a sunflower looks

like it's you know letting off its own light okay all right um I'm gonna go with a different rookie one that I think they're I have much more concern about I'm not as confident as I am in Jordan Addison but he's got a much better quarterback and his situation is pretty good no I have Mike Williams I was gonna take Quentin Johnston but I just saw I have Mike Williams so I'm not going to almost may him just say I almost Instead, I'm going with a post-hype sleeper, a guy that I loved, unfortunately, last year in Gabe Davis. The situation for him, though, you know, getting him. It's exactly the same. Yeah, it is. The situation is exactly the same.

And, you know, his high ankle sprain in week two last year. And it's funny because if he wasn't as hyped as he was last year, he didn't have a bad season. It wasn't like he had one of those just complete wash. I think he was the wide receiver 29 or something like that. But he was drafted to have a breakout, and he didn't break out. So I'm going to take him here close to the ninth round. Yeah, you don't have to rose color last year for Gabe to take him here with some upside.

It was bad. But Gibson goes next. Michael Thomas. I'm on the clock. I'm going to play the game. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be public about it in the face of mayhem. I'd like to have Tua as my quarterback.

I feel like it's a tear break for me at quarterback. But I'm going to play the game. And the two guys drafting after me at the turn have quarterbacks. And so it gives me the opportunity here to take another wide receiver. I hate the situation I'm in because, you know, David Montgomery, great value there in the seventh round. I can't even look at the running back tap. Like that's not a possibility in this draft.

You can. Yeah. Don't let someone tell you what you can't do. Even players that I like on that list are out of contention for my team. Samajay,aj P Ryan, your guys there to be my running back six. Look, it's Quentin Johnston.

If I'm allowed to make the pick, I'm going to take him because this is the perfect position. I've got two starters and Evans and, and Berks. And now I can look to maybe get some late season emerging upside out of a rookie. We see them break out every year because my other options are has-beens. It's Cooks and Schuster and Sutton, and these are not guys,

or the injured Bateman. Like, I'm not messing around there. I want the rookie if I can have the rookie. Make it happen. Yeah, because you're going to save your mayhem for a worse situation. Cooks, Ingram, Juju, and Njoku here. If permitted, it is to a tongue of Iloa. Yeah.

Oh, man, this has worked out real well. Things go wrong sometimes in a draft. So I can't draft him. No, but you get anyone else. Your choice. Anybody else. Great. Coyle Herbert.

Well played, Mike. Thank you. I am looking for that explosive. Zach Charbonnet. Ups. Thanks. Keep giving me running backs. So no Tua.

That's brutal. He's not coming back to me. The wait is going to be so long. Same thing happened in our last mock draft. You know, it's tough. I look at Jameson Williams, and I'm like, man, I'd love Jameson Williams minus the suspension here, right, because of the potential upside of that player.

I don't think I can do it. My team is too thin at wide receiver. Is his an eight-game suspension? I believe it's six, isn't it? Yeah, six. Brooks is nodding. I would never draft Cortland Sutton. I'd be embarrassed to tell my friends and family about that.

I've already been noped, so I'm going to go to the well with Zay Flowers. Zay Flowers, I'm going to go back-to-back. Quentin Johnson, Zay Flowers. I think that is the strategy. If you get stuck with five running backs to start your draft. Somehow you're in a draft where other people make selections for you, and you're just loaded with testosterone. I did it last year. To get a bunch of high upside picks

here at the back i think it's so i think it's smart it wasn't the same situation obviously but in league of record last year i was down a lot of picks at the top and my strategy was at the back of the draft i went trailing burks garrett wilson chris olave. It wasn't Pickens. I think I had one more rookie wide receiver, and it proved super valuable later in the year because, you know, they were trade bait. They were very attractive in keeper leagues. So, yeah, I'm going to go Johnson and Flowers. And if I get one of those two to be what a Wilson or Olave was last year,

to go with Evans and Brooks, I'm happy. Yep, that's a win. So I was tempted to go the player that went next, Pat Fryermuth, a little bit, because I do feel like even though he's not a top-tier tight end, he's going to be a very steady tight end. Tua went next, of course. And, Jason, you're back on the clock.

We are mayhem free. So, Mike, you can walk out the door. You can just leave. I'm mayhem free. Wow. I was sitting here already playing the game in my mind of, okay, if I go this way, because the player that I want sitting here right now, this team has just worked out where I want it balanced. A lot of times what happens at a draft, if I grab two or three or five strong running backs to start a draft, then I'm going to kind of leave there with a lot more wide receivers than I do running backs or vice versa. If I start with three stud wide receivers, I'm going to shotgun approach the,

you know, the running backs. But this has been a balanced draft back and forth. And so I want to kind of leave with about the same running backs and wide receivers. You have gone back and forth since round three. I didn't realize that, but I feel it. And I'm going to go back again. I'm going to take Samaj P. Ryan, a guy that Andy's been talking about. You know, you've got Javante Williams here going three and a half rounds ahead of Samaj P. Ryan. And the expectation, I think, from us right now is that week one, the main man is going to be Samaj P. Ryan.

All right, Jason, you're back on the clock here in the 10th round as we close out this draft. You went P. Ryan. Penny would have been in contention there too, I think. And then he went next. All right, Jason, you're back on the clock here in the 10th round. As we close out this draft, you went Pirine. Penny would have been in contention there too, I think. And then he went next. Jamal Williams, Sutton, Charbonnet, Herbert. The quarterback I was targeting after Tua is now gone. Anthony Richardson, I was going to look at the upside there.

Bateman, Cousins, Geno. I'm running out of quarterbacks, guys. People are taking backups yeah Elijah Moore and then um Jameson Williams did go Jason you're back on the clock two picks left you do need a tight end in one of these next two picks yes I do um and when I'm looking at the tight ends that I like that are left there's there's a handful of them um fortunately one of these players I know Andy likes a lot and so that's going to force my hand to take a tight end here and take chig a conco i'm gonna do the right stuff here thank you

i was hoping that drop would come back in i was thinking about that yesterday very happy that you are basically me i mean p ryan. Ryan Oconco back-to-back is, I mean, you're like my pseudonym. Yeah, exactly. One of my many. One of my many. Devon A. Chain was on the board there. That would have been a fun player to take

if I didn't have five running backs. And I have to take a quarterback and a tight end with my last two picks here. So looking at the quarterback landscape, there was one name that I would hope would just be hanging around at the end. I'm going to take it here. So I don't risk him being gone. Aaron Rogers is going to be my quarterback.

I'm going to look at that jets offense, the rebirth there, the money they paid and just say, I hope you get a resurgent year from Aaron Rogers, Allah, Tom Brady and Tampa for a year. Dalton Kincaid and Dalton Schultz go next. Yeah, okay.

Jared Goff, Beckham, my final pick. It's got to be a tight end. You know, there's one name on this list that we've talked about quite a bit. Actually, there's two. Dulcich and Higby are the two that I'm thinking about. I've cooled on a player like Gerald Everett, just based on camp reports of Donald Parham getting it done. Everett was heavily involved last year,

but only 400 yards receiving total. Yeah, so it's between those two. I'm trying to see if I can find another little sneaky potential guy. K.Dotten is being brought up a lot as a second-year tight end. But I'm going to go with Greg Dulcich. I'm going to take Greg Dulcich. Is it the Jared Stidham news that's psyching you out here? Yeah, well, I just feel like Dulcich is more of a risk and Higby is more safe, but Dulcich has more upside.

Higby's upside has kind of been, we've seen it. It's been there. We've done that. So Rodgers and Dolsic, to close this mayhem out. What's really funny is those were the two players I was between at tight end was Chig Okonkwo and Greg Dolsic. I like Greg Dolsic more than Chig. Yeah, you've been more vocal about that.

I just wanted to take Chig first. Yeah, no, I mean. And so, you know, sometimes when you're playing fantasy with your friends, it's less about. Sure, but you would have forced Andy's hand into a Super Titan stack with Traylon Burks and Chicka Conquo. Yeah, and I would have blindly done it without noticing. That's true.

I didn't notice that. So now I'm sitting here looking at my roster. I'm pretty balanced. I've got Jalen Hurts and I've got Chicka Conquo, so I don't need the onesies. Najee Harris, James Conner, David Montgomery and Samajay Pirine at running back, Cooper Cupp, Terry McLaurin, Mike Williams, and Gabe Davis at wide receiver. So I'm just looking for an upside play, someone that could sit on the bench

and maybe be something special. And if that's the case, to me, that's Rasheed Rice. I'm going to take the shot at a rookie wide receiver who I think was pretty good, who gets to land with Patrick Mahomes. What we saw last year from Sky Moore, he had the opportunity, he failed. Kadarius Toney, will he ever be able to be on the field. They lost Juju Smith-Schuster, and Travis Kelsey's a year older. So there is a pathway here. More than likely, Patrick Mahomes just spreads it around, and there isn't a guy.

I'm still on the Skymore over Rashi Rice train. They both went in the final round here, five picks apart. And I've been very vocal of my hesitancy on Skymore, especially talking about Dynasty. But between those two, I would go Skymore this year. So you just really don't like Rishi Rice as a prospect? No, not that at all. After the season, they were talking about how the way that this offense

was structured, it was a little more difficult for rookies to pick up. So I'm going to give Skymore, who had the second round draft capital, I'm going to give it just between him and another rookie, I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who's been in the system for a year. Do you want to hit that button one last time before I read my roster, Mike? Yes, I do. Mayhem.

I knew that was a lot of fun. I've never seen a draft go this way. I'm looking at my team, and it went five running backs, four wide receivers. That was the order. And then my quarterback and tight end, McCaffrey, Jacobs, Gibbs, Akers, Madison. I can tell you our draft analyzer is going to say your running backs are great.

Evans, Burks, Johnston, Flowers, and then Rodgers and Dulcich. I've got Cooper Cup, Jalen Hurts, Najee Harris, Tara McLaurin, James Conner, Mike Williams, David Montgomery, Gabe Davis, Samaje Pirine, Chigakonkwo, and Rasheed Rice. This was a lot of fun. I'm sure you had a lot of fun, too. Oh, I had a great time. It's funny because I felt like the way it was started, I got off the hook and jason was going to be the man suffering and then i feel

like at the end it got revealed that i was mayhem i was the one being conned all along so um we will get these mayhem rosters into the draft analyzer and share those results over on social media. You can't let your mark know that they're the mark. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And here I was, I'm going to go Gibbs. I caught you off guard. But no, we'll get all of that. You can see the full draft board on YouTube.

It's all up there. It was a good exercise in flexibility and changing these teams and thought processes around. I'm not that unhappy with my team. The ride was bumpy. Yeah, it was. But I'm pretty happy. How do you feel, Jay?

Yeah, I feel pretty good about my team, and I don't think that your team can absolutely win. I mean, there's so many different ways you can construct a roster, and there's ideal ways, and then there's ways you have to pivot to when things go wrong. Obviously, in your draft, you're to pivot to when things go wrong. Obviously in your draft, you're not going to be forced into taking five running backs to start,

but this is a good exercise to see. Well, if, if stuff goes wrong, how do you deal? Yeah, absolutely. So that'll do it for this Saturday edition of the fantasy footballers podcast draft analyzer available.

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