Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Mock Draft Show! + High Risk Picks - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/5

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Fantasy Football show for June 5, 2025. It’s mock draft time! Lots of advice for 2025 fantasy football drafts! Find out which strategies worked best in a 10-team Half PPR mock draft. Plus, the riski...est picks and upside players who could take a step forward in 2025. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2025 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT is available now at UltimateDraftKit.com(00:00) Introduction(03:20) NFL News12:00) Mock DraftConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Okay. Okay. Acceptable. It's better flying blind here. Closer, warmer. Welcome in. We got a mock draft episode today we got some news to catch you up on it'll be a fun show Jason says he feels like he's been just stuck in a permanent mock draft because you did a mock job
Starting point is 00:00:59 for the dynasty show as well a startup yeah I've been doing doing mock drafts just because you know you do mock drafts just because you do mock drafts. Yeah. That's what you're supposed to do. But yeah, the dynasty show that just came out yesterday was a dynasty startup. We only do that once a year. And so that one is a mama jammy. You know, you're going, we don't do like the whole 30 rounds.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Like a 20, 30 hour draft. Right. Like a full dynasty, but we go way deeper. And obviously from the perspective of dynasty startup. So if you want wanna check that out, you can check out the Dynasty pod as well. We had our first mock draft of the entire season on this show not too long ago,
Starting point is 00:01:33 but it was before the UDK released and before we had filmed all of our player profile videos and kind of had some more deep dive analysis on players. And I know when we did that mock draft, we felt maybe a little shaky in the middle rounds about where our convictions were very strong about players and, or shakier than we normally are. So I'll be curious when we get into that middle round range
Starting point is 00:01:57 today, how we feel about certain players. Yeah, and the beginning of each off season, you know, you've got to find out, by the time draft season comes we all as, as, and you know, us and you guys alongside will know like the different strategies. Which rounds are stronger and weaker and what positions? When to take, you know, your, your tight end if you miss out on the big ones or how long to wait on running backs if you're going zero, you know, all the different strategies. And so
Starting point is 00:02:29 the more we do these, the better and better we will get. You can check out the recently released and ready for action ultimate draft kit at ultimate draft kit dot com. Getting updated all the time. Jam-packed with information to help you win at the draft, available on the web on Android, on Apple. So you can grab the app as well. You can watch the show, including today's mock draft over on YouTube, youtube.com slash the fantasy footballers. See the draft board, see all the different teams. We're doing a 10 team mock draft today,
Starting point is 00:02:59 but it's a three wide receiver mock, and we're gonna have all live drafters again. So members of the fantasy footballers staff will be drafting some other rosters and we'll each have a team in the draft, got randomly assigned spots. So that's today, very excited about that. Let's jump right into the news.
Starting point is 00:03:19 News and notes from around the league. News and notes from around the league. A follow up to our Stefan Diggs speculation discussion from the last show. Ian Rappaport came out and said the Patriots have no plans to release Stefan Diggs. They have high hopes for him. That's good after paying the man as much money as we... I don't think they had plans to release the guy that they signed for maximum dollars. I think it's more of a, does he release himself? Diva wide receivers have been known to do that.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Adam Schefter reports these Steelers are renewing conversations with Dolphins tight end Johnny Smith on a trade. Donald Parham, one of their other tied in, suffered a torn Achilles during team's OTAs. This has been a real snip, snap, snip, snap. It's like every other day the Steelers are trying to get a trade and every other day, no, they're done. They're not looking at it.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And every other day in Miami is, we're talking to John New about contracts. Yeah, we want him, but it's a know, it's a contractual, you know, negotiation going on right now in the public. What is your guys' hope? What do you want? Because obviously him leaving might mean good things for Tyreek and Waddle.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Him staying means good things for another relevant tight end. What do we need more? Do we need Waddle and Tyreek to be relevant or do we need another relevant tight end? Because I don't think he leaves and becomes relevant. Johnny Smith has had a long enough career, especially in Pittsburgh, going there where you're competing.
Starting point is 00:04:52 With Pat Fryermuth. With Pat Fryermuth. You're going to be better for Pittsburgh than you will be for fantasy at that point. But my concern with Miami is if Johnnie leaves, then they still do the same crap. But is somebody not as good as John who. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:08 That like, that's the, that's the fear and the horror. Maybe they just do 200 targets to each hand. That would be fantastic. That would be fantastic. Okay, okay. Well, we'll see. We'll keep following along. Kyle Pitts dealing with a strain muscle in his foot.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It's held him out of OTAs. They're being cautious with him. That's what they said. He's been in every meeting and been in every other thing they've done other than being on the field. Oh, by the way, Gabe the Babe, Gabe Davis working out with the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Which just seems so perfect. That is truly perfection for the Bissburg Steelers to sign Gabe Davis and be like, hey, sure, you be our wide receiver too. I am a little sad. Obviously they have a hole here. They got rid of George. They traded him to the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And so I am a little sad at all the news of them looking at needing a wide receiver, whether they trade for a different one or now they're bringing in Gabe the Babe, because you know Roman Wilson, my hope was that, hey we can let George go because we have a number two now that we've got Metcalf. You know they're there, they're with Roman Wilson and odds are that it doesn't hit, but that was kind of my dark horse hope for that team and it seems like that's not what the team's actions are
Starting point is 00:06:24 telling us they believe. Well Gabe Davis will go a long way to making sure Roman Wilson's a thing. Yeah I'd say if Gabe goes there, I wouldn't be concerned. I think their depth chart is just it's just so thin in general that you have to add somebody. When Robert Woods is a fundamental part. So you've got Robert Woods who is 60 years old. Correct. You've got Roman Wilson, who's played like zero snaps. Also correct. You've got Scotty Miller, who's just a transient. Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And not gonna be a big part of your offense. And then you've got like a Gadgetree Speedster in Calvin Austin. And then you've got DK. You gotta sign somebody. Seems like it. If it's not Gabe, it's gonna be Keenan, or it's it's gonna be Kenan or it's gonna be a Marty Cooper or it's gonna be somebody else. Oh I'm I'm seeing that they do have one other very important wide receiver
Starting point is 00:07:16 Scoronic Yeah, I love opportunity Listening knows who that is, who's that is or even remembers that bit. I'm happy it's back. Uh, JK Dobbins headed to Denver to have dinner, a Denver dinner, right? There's nothing to do with the Broncos. He just loves the restaurants and coaches. Okay. All right. Visiting the Broncos facility.
Starting point is 00:07:47 They already, recently, Sean Payton coming out and talking about Audrick Estimé not having enough touches last year, talking about the fact he's the kind of back that requires a lot of touches to get going because he's just like a rhythm running back. Yeah. And then you've got RJ Harvey, who is everybody,
Starting point is 00:08:02 everybody's enamored. I don't know if everybody's enamored with RJ Harvey as much as they are. The idea of RJ Harvey? Oh yeah, it's Sean Payton. It's second round draft capital. I'm interested to see where his redraft ADP kind of settles at, because the excitement was,
Starting point is 00:08:22 like we're coming off the excitement of dynasty. Like he became an option seemingly not out of nowhere but jumping into the first round of rookie drafts like that well right now that was out right now he's the running back 17 in best ball drafts okay to be to be honest I don't hate that I think no I think that's fair because when you look at Sean Payton's teams historically he's going to have a committee. He's not gonna have one guy there be 350 opportunities, but the one that you generally speaking want
Starting point is 00:08:52 is the one involved in the passing game, and I do expect that to be RJ Harvey. If they brought in- Yeah, that is not estimate. Right, well that's definitely not estimate, but my point is I think that if J.K. Dobbin's Word 2 come in, I think it's more impactful on Estime than it is on RJ Harvey. We won't be happy with RJ Harvey
Starting point is 00:09:12 if he's just a passing down back. We won't. Not if he's just a passing down. Yeah, I mean, because if you have Estime, Dobbins, McLaughlin, Harvey, Bade. I think Dobbins would, there's Bade or McLaughlin would not be on the team. Man, when you guys say Bidet,
Starting point is 00:09:28 it still feels like you're doing a bit. It feels like you're- You mean because his last name's Beatty? Yeah. For like half the year? It's spelled and looks that way, and it, you know, but then- It's now pronounced Bidet.
Starting point is 00:09:41 It's been changed. We've been here. I know, I know. We've been here, Devon A-Chain. Oh yeah. He was off the... A-Chain was better, by the way. See, I know.
Starting point is 00:09:50 We're accustomed to A-Chain now. But we're gonna get it right. Bidet. Which has its own benefit. Which is, honestly, is better. And another one that changed to being right, which goes great with bidet, is booty. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:03 You know what I mean? It was booty. Yeah, we brought booty back. But now we got booty and bidet and it's legit Oh yeah. You know what I mean? It was booty. Yeah, we brought booty back. But now we got booty and bidet and it's legit. We gotta get them on the same team. It's legit. Get them on the same team. That's actually how you see those names?
Starting point is 00:10:12 I'm really tempted to bring up Papa Josh's bidet issues. Oh. Oh man. I'll argue. I'll argue. Oh. Yeah, but we can mute your microphone. Don't bring it up?
Starting point is 00:10:26 Okay, I mean I did tweet about it. There's a process to using a bidet and not everyone knows how. That's the gist. But the nice thing is, Papa Josh, I believe we fixed a problem for you. No, he's still on his own. No, he's not. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:10:41 No, I'm unraveling the whole thing. I'm just, it's the off season. A bidet is meant to be used to clean yourself after you use the restroom, number two. Yeah, you're gonna wash the poop off your butt so you don't have to schmear it around. Yeah. And everybody knows this in the world,
Starting point is 00:10:57 except for one person, Papa Josh, who insists upon a pre-wash wipe. Yeah, you gotta, you know, I gotta wipe this off before I wash it and Do you guys do you like why do you rinse your dishes before you put them in the dish? No, no, you're not actually doing this. You're not vacuum before you mop your floor No Wait, both of those are no way you vacuum before you move that carpet, bro
Starting point is 00:11:22 You might not have a second tile you might actually you don't sweep's carpet, bro. You mop carpet? No, he's stockin' tile. You mop sweep? You don't sweep your kitchen before you mop it? I would sweep if there were big old... Ah! All right, let's get to the mantra. All right, all right. This'll turn into a 60-minute argument. No, that's true.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Did I mention Rashi Rice, full participant in practice? You did not, but... You did not? Whoo, baby! Yeah, and watching him run the routes, just similar to what you saw with Diggs. There was no knee brace on. He's looking, you know, not limited at all. He was not working with the rehab players.
Starting point is 00:11:53 He was working with the main team. So that's great for this time of year. Alright, into the mock draft we go. The Fantasy Footballers mock draft. Well like I said at the top, we've got a 10 team half PPR mock draft today. One quarterback, two running back, three wide. So a three wide receiver draft, one tight end, one flex, four bench. And it looks like we drew the, I'm at the four spot, Mike at the eight, Jason at the 10.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So I think you were in the second to last pick last time. Which was the 10, right, or something like that, yeah. So you didn't like that, so we'll give you back to back picks in this draft. And a reminder, all the tiered rankings with the ability to plug in your custom scoring, all the cheat sheets, everything is available ultimatedraftkit.com if you wanna use that for your draft.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Today's mock draft, we'll jump in. Papa Josh has the number one pick. He went Jamar Chase, Jefferson went next to Jake, and Kyle the Borgogon went to C.D. Lamb at 103, putting me on the clock in a, I guess what some might consider a conundrum in a three I guess what some might consider a conundrum in a three-wide league.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But to me, there's just such a limited amount of difference making running backs that I am not really put in a tough spot here. I believe in the last draft I was sitting at two and I went Sequon on that one. I have Bijon and Sequon neck and neck, so for the sake of going a different direction, I will take Bijon with the fourth pick in the draft first, running back off the board in a three wide. And so, you're not gonna be unhappy there. Yeah, when we left last season,
Starting point is 00:13:38 it was a foregone conclusion that Sequon should be the number one running back drafted, but the deeper you dig into it, Bijon should be the number one running back drafted. But the deeper you dig into it, Bijon should be the number one running back drafted because I think their ceilings are near each other with Bijon's PPR work, but I feel like the safety of Bijon, he doesn't have the same risks based on age
Starting point is 00:13:58 and last year's utilization that Saquon does carry some of those yellow flags in. This is a man who saw the Madden cover as well. That is also true. The last four running backs on that Madden cover. I believe it's every running back ever. They've been, yeah, they're not good. So I'll go Bijon at the 104, which leaves Saquon for the 105.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Matthew Betts taking him. Julia goes Amon Ra St. Brown at 106. Which, you know, that would have been, that would have been in consideration for me if I was gonna go wide receiver there. Jameer Gibbs off the board at 107, to Al Borland. And then Mike, you're on the clock here at 108, three wide, 10 team, mock.
Starting point is 00:14:40 So, yeah, I'm in an interesting spot here. So there will be, I'll get my player, then four more players will go before my second pick. So running backs, in the last mock, I'm in on Christian McCaffrey as if you can take him literally whenever for me and Ash and Gentie. I mean, yeah, HN and Henry, I mean, there's- Brooks and Jason are drafting after you here.
Starting point is 00:15:07 And, um... And so wide receiver wise, Puka, Malik, Nico, Brian Thomas, Drake London, those were the top guys in ADP. Puka would be... The next highest on your board? Puka would be the next highest in my rankings. Uh, yeah, I'm just going to go. I'll go Puka.. I'm gonna try it out. Puka off the board? Oh who poop emoji'd my Puka? What is happening? Probably baby Jake. Is that you again baby Jake? I think Puka was the player that I was hoping and actually assuming would fall to
Starting point is 00:15:40 me at the 10 spot. He is usually not respected in drafts as I think he deserves to be, but you know I'm still happy wearing him. So Puka goes off the board. Mike, your first pick-wide receiver. Malik neighbors to Bruxy at the 109 and Jason on the clock with back-to-back picks. Back-to-back picks. And a three wide is very tempting to take Nikko Collins and Brian jr. I love both those guys They're very very highly ranked at the turn However, I usually prefer to split up the positions. It gives me more flexibility later in the draft You know if I go wide receiver wide receiver, then I've got to wait 20 picks until I get my first running back
Starting point is 00:16:20 So I'm gonna split them here tight in tight in you are right go high T, man Yeah, McBride and Bowers. You darn right. Go high T, man. Yeah, McBride and Bowers. That's high T-E. High T, take two runbacks. I'm gonna take Nico Collins at the wide receiver position and I'm going to reach for the rookie here, which this is exactly where he's gonna go
Starting point is 00:16:37 come draft season, so I might as well take him now despite ADP, Ashton Gentey at the 201 here. I would be really happy if I were you with that combo. I was curious, like, was Brian Thomas in the mix with Nico? Because I know you love Brian Thomas and I was just wondering how hard that decision was. I love both those guys. It's a coin flip, they're in the same tier to me
Starting point is 00:17:02 when I just went based on where my rankings are right now and specifically half PPR since that's what this is. Okay so Collins and Gentie to Jason first two picks. Brooks comes back with another wide out AJ Brown going at the 202. Mike you're back on the clock you're gonna have a long wait after this pick. Yeah and I know it's three wide, but for me, I think Christian McCaffrey is, if you have the courage to take him one-on-one, it doesn't bother me. So to have him drop to my second pick, I feel like it would be against my personal morality of 20-25, then I'll take him. Yeah, speaking of McCaffrey like because I mean strong responses when I
Starting point is 00:17:48 mean you've got him really high. Yep. We've had the discussions. I came in the other day and I literally I just told Jay I was just sitting in the office with him. I really I don't think it's gonna work out for Christian McCaffrey this year. Okay. And I think about 10 minutes later, I get a DM from Jason.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And no context, no commentary. I could probably pull it up. And it was just a moment, one story, and this was it. It was the run, it was from 32 Beat Riders. This run was evidence that McCaffrey, who missed the bulk of 2024 with Achilles and knee injuries, is back at full strength and looking more like his 2023 self and seems to be symbolic of the extra pep in the 49ers running game this spring. And it was like, I did have the moment of like, well, I could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:34 That's the thing. It is a gamble. It is absolutely gamble. of the draft, but it's to me if he's healthy, he's a lock to be a top three running back with the chance that he could just be far and away the number one guy again. But yeah, Gable, I get it. Yeah, so you know I guess that hopes and dreams of Brian Thomas dropping, he didn't. Or Drake London, he didn't. Or Lad McConkey. He didn't. So here you are facing the fun of a three wide. I took Bijan in the first. I don't have a wide receiver on the roster. It is, I would have loved Brian Thomas. Would have loved Drake London in this situation. I'm staring at Brock Bauer's name in the second round.
Starting point is 00:19:23 A choice that would have been made easier had I gone a wide name in the second round, a choice that would have been made easier had I gone wide receiver in the first round, I think. But I do have a quick turn, and so Bauer's is in consideration here. You know, two years ago's wide receiver won, still available. Yeah, Tyreek. Yeah, it's funny, of the wide receivers available, you're entering a territory.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Where you want them. That, you know, JSN, we've talked about the upside downside of Jason, upside downside of Tyreek Hill. T Higgins, we know what comes along with T Higgins. Garrett Wilson, the offense, DF Success, these are the guys on the board. The one guy standing out that's higher than all of them on my board right now is Marvin Harrison.
Starting point is 00:20:02 So then I have to make the decision, do I believe that Marvin Harrison, because of the three wide format, half PPR, year two, do I believe that that's gonna be more valuable to my team than Brock Bowers? Or do I go Brock Bowers? I've got three guys I have to wait through. I'm gonna lose another three wide receivers off the board,
Starting point is 00:20:20 so I'm gonna just pull the trigger on Harrison here. Which is, again, I think it's probably earlier than ADP, but it's my opportunity to get the guy that I think is gonna take a big step forward in this format. So do you see the Trey McBride quote about the offense? Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did see that.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Got a little tingly, cause he was like a- A Marvin Harrison tingly? Well, this was just Cardinal's offense, cause Trey McBride said hey that you know we're working on some stuff right now that is not as just plain fundamentals we're working in more motion and you're like oh my god a modern NFL offense imagine the world what's funny though is it's true petting like it's isn't a new system and a new coordinator it's just like what did you just want a year to I guess just play
Starting point is 00:21:09 pretend hopefully he saw the stats of Kyler's like hey Kyler Kyler's stats when there's motion or play action shocking stuff guys they're way better I will bet that's true for all quarterbacks in the league. It is and I'm not saying you have to do it on every play but Just do it a lot who cares It's I mean, it's a strong point. It's a strong point. I I Did see would you like to get your offense lined up show the defense how you're lined up and do nothing Let them prepare or would you like to would you want more information about what the defense is doing? So silly.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I drafted Jamison Williams. Oh my gosh. You're going after your dudes, I will say this. Can I? So, yeah, true transparency here. It was gonna be between him or taking the shot on George Kittle because after I took Harrison
Starting point is 00:22:04 and went Henry Irving Bowers, Higg McLaurin McBride I knew I was kind of taking McBride off the table for me at least if I don't necessarily want the double cardinal exposure in the first three rounds Jamison Williams is the next highest guy on my board right behind him would have been Devante Adams so I'll just go with the guy that I had highest on the board. Rashi Rice goes next at 305. And so, you know, we've seen two tight ends off the board at this point. Derrick Henry dropping to 208. I think that's interesting in this format. A guy who was number two overall last year.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Bucky Irving goes 209. What do you think of the pricing of Bucky? Is it too high for you? It's too high for me personally. I think that he's being drafted near his ceiling. I've got him as my running back 11. That's great, he's a running back one. But I don't think he has that kind of top three upside
Starting point is 00:22:55 and I hope I'm wrong because he was so explosive as a rookie. But there's still a couple running backs on the board here that I have higher than him. So Jamison, Rice, Jacobs and Achan going off the board in the third round. Achan to Al Borland and we'll take a break come back with Mike's third pick. Puka Nakua, Christian McCaffrey, Mike you've got those two guys on the roster you have your third round pick. All right, I'm just going to do a little peek around here.
Starting point is 00:23:28 So running backs, we're in the tier of Johnny Taylor, Kyron. Oh, Chase Brown. Chase Brown is on the board. That's tough. And then wide receiver, JSN, Tyreek, who, hey, know your league. I don't know where Brooksie is on Tyreek, but I'm pretty sure that Jason would not take him with one of his two picks. And so the, the, the pick here comes down to for me, uh, I guess quarterback too. No one's taken a quarterback. Yeah. Chase Brown Garrett Wilson George Kittle would be the the the main players I'm looking at. And then if I want to take
Starting point is 00:24:12 Lamar or or Josh Allen I'm going to go because of the three wide I'm going to buy I'm going to bypass Chase Brown. I was going to see this. I'm going to see how it feels. Let's see how it feels. Take my team looking familiar as always Garrett Wilson off the board with McCaffrey Brooks is back on the clock Jason. You're gonna be on the clock here in a moment with two more picks You went Nico and gente seeing how the second and third round Unraveled so far any changes you would make to your... There were. There were changes that I wanted to make right up until Brooks just took his last player. I thought I was going to be on the clock with both Jonathan Taylor and Kyron Williams
Starting point is 00:24:55 available. I love those running backs. And so I would have been so happy to double tap them, which made me regret taking Ash and Gentie in the second round. I would have rather gotten Brian Thomas Jr. alongside Nico. But then Brooks took Jonathan Taylor and not JSN. So I'm going to take Jackson Smith and Jigba because I've got him. I mean, he's a wide receiver, the wide receiver 10 last year in his sophomore season. I get it. I mean, there's a path here for an elite upside. So I'll take him in the two wide end. Then I will grab my guy, Kyron Williams, who I tend to always have if I'm near the back end of drafts right now. Nico and Jason with Gentie and Kyron Williams, a 10 team, three wide receiver turn spots
Starting point is 00:25:34 looking pretty good. If I'm honest, man, Brooks, his team is looking so good. Neighbors, AJ Brown, Jonathan Taylor. Oh my God. And now Chase Brown off the board. So. Chase Brown the fourth is ridiculous. You know. It's a 10 team. I know I'm just saying like that's got to, that would have felt real good.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Both of those spots when you're making, like you said it at the beginning, do you want flexibility in a three wide receiver draft? You splitting that first round gave you flexibility with your next two picks. So yeah, I like the 109-110 spot right now roster wise, probably the most. Yeah, they're looking good. Mike, Puka, McCaffrey, Wilson, you're on the clock. So Tyreek is there.
Starting point is 00:26:17 It sounded like four different people were on the clock there. It was Mike, Puka, McCaffrey, and Wilson are on the clock. Well, we are. We're all on the clock right now. They are part of your team. He picked them, they have to pick him. All right, oh that's true. I don't know if I would. And so because we're, running backs, top of ADP right now is Breece Hall, James Cook,
Starting point is 00:26:35 Ken Bonewalker, but because we are in the 10 teamer, the people ask what are the biggest differences? The bigger difference in a 10 team is everyone's teams are gonna be, I mean, look at the 10 spot. Teams are stacked, so you gotta find your edges and finding edges in a onesie position. I'm gonna take George.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I like it. Because I think he is like. No, no, no, no, no. You did not. George Kittle. Thank you. Thanks, okay. I did not take George Pickens. I took George Kittle. You were. Okay. I did not take George Pickens. Yes. I took George Kittle
Starting point is 00:27:06 You were thinking about him at the 308. Yeah, I was wondering if you could wait and get him and you did Yeah, so good pick Mike Evans off the board next giving Al Borland a Brian Thomas Mike Evans combo to go with Gibbs and H-ann Talk about a PPR backfield Gibbs and H-ann Alvin Camara off the board at 405, and then Betsy because he wanted to twist the knife, snags what would have been my next pick in Devontae Adams, who almost came all the way back around. And so I'm gonna be honest with you, Betsy,
Starting point is 00:27:42 he's mocking the JMo pic. I definitely, as we're doing this live, meant to put him in my queue and decided on the spot. Like he was the next ranked guy up, which is what I said when I took him. But I also, it's not where you, it's not just where you have them ranked, it's where people will draft him.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But turns out when I click, when I'm hosting a show, doing a mock draft, and you click plus, plus is draft, whereas the little paper plus, with a plus, that's Q. So I just drafted Jameson Williams and moved on with it. It seems like it would have worked out pretty well to circle all the way back. That being said.
Starting point is 00:28:25 You could have got him here. Yeah. Maybe even in the fifth. That's really what the plan was. That's why the queue was where he was gonna get smashed. Could have taken Josh Jacobs or someone. Yeah, so what's interesting is you've got Tyreek Hill on the board still.
Starting point is 00:28:41 You guys have both brought him up multiple times throughout the draft. He's kind of dangling out there as one of the last tier of guys that can still be a top 12 type of performer. I just saw some camp film. I don't know if you guys saw it this morning. Of Tyreek? Yeah, it was Waddle and Tyreek, and it was more of the
Starting point is 00:29:02 get off the line drills, and you watch these, and it's always beneficial to see the other receivers, because it's a great comparison. And Tyreke was very still Tyreke in this. It was just like a different species from the other wide receivers off the line. It just looked. I will say this, there was some data,
Starting point is 00:29:23 I can't remember who put this out on Twitter I apologize, but someone was just sharing veteran open rates as they age You know with just how often are these wide receivers getting open in their last three years and with their age there and Tyreek was at the top. He was open last year. He was getting open last year So I think it was more of a system issue a to a McDonald bad offensive line concussion Issue it was not Tyreek having necessarily lost a step that being said I don't know that that changes
Starting point is 00:29:56 They're still gonna have to get the ball out of his hands super quick But absolutely in fourth round that is delicious bait. You are gonna love the hook. Yeah, you really are. Well, it's, yeah, I'm gonna have to roll with the punches on JMo around early, but we talked about that on the show. I think it was the last episode, the quick question. What happens when a pick goes sideways? Like, is it gonna unravel the rest of your draft
Starting point is 00:30:23 or you just roll with it? So getting Tyreek in the fourth is where I'm gonna go Devontae Smith off the board Chuba Hubbard DJ Moore round out the fourth round James Cook last year fantasy darling goes in the fifth that's fine George Pickens or as you call him George George off the board at five oh two. Um, in this draft, that's, that's over, you know, you know, Sutton still sitting there. Metcalf is the one sitting there. Zay flowers still on the board and Brice hall still on the board at five oh four at this point, which that is two double bait. That's two rounds. You You're gonna get fish hooked in both cheeks. The names look awesome.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Well look I did. It's gonna rip your face off. I thought about it in the fourth. You want to know how I got these scars? I drafted Terry Cabrice back to back. And they pulled from both sides. Oh my gosh. Yeah, well, I'm dead. Breece Hall, two rounds below ADP. And the last of a tier at running back, in my opinion, on the board. We live to make fun of each other. Oh, yeah. And you should. Tyreek in the fourth, Breece Hall in the fifth.
Starting point is 00:31:39 That's where, I mean, I probably would have taken the exact same players. There are, you know, a lot of times where they go, there are players behind them that I feel much more confident in, but where you took them, they are seemingly the last of a tier of guys who have the talent to be able to get back to, you know, top five level production.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Most of the other guys in this area, you know, look at the guys that went next, Coraline Sutton, DK Metcalf, those aren't, they don't have the ability, the talent, the situation, the team to be able to be top five at their position, whereas Tyreek could, Breece Hall could. This was the Jared Smola tweet. Did you read this already?
Starting point is 00:32:13 I didn't. This was the one you referenced. Oh, okay, it was Smola? Yeah, Smola had posted, he said, "'For all those concerned about Tyreek Hill's 2024, "'he ranked eighth among all wide receivers in open score, "'and his score trailed only his 2022 and 2023 marks but better than his scores over the previous five seasons in Kansas City. So you know we'll see he is a risk. Tyreek is in the
Starting point is 00:32:35 Tyreek is very much in the Christian McCaffrey category where there have been burns from high and high draft capital selections of players with long histories of dominance and you are taking a chance that they return to form because that's what you're doing with McCaffrey you're saying stay healthy stay healthy and be yourself and get the same workload and that's what we're saying with Tyreek so I went Breece Hall by the way Lamar Jackson went right before Breece and then Josh Allen right after. So our first two quarterbacks off the board. Cortland Sutton, DK Matkaff go next. And Mike, you are on the board.
Starting point is 00:33:12 You have Pukka Nakua, Christian McCavrey. Every G I see now, I just want to call him George Wilson. Everybody said George, because you got George Kittle, Garrett Wilson, and you're back on the clock. So the best part of these mocks is, because this is where you get to find out how you feel about stuff. So I'm going to go back to back onesies
Starting point is 00:33:34 so I can see what my team looks like at this point, where I got the two wide outs, so it's not complete destruction of throwing that position away, of I'm going all budget wide receivers. So then it comes down to. It's got a full CMC dependency at running back, right where you want to be.
Starting point is 00:33:52 It's hero RB, maybe. Hero RB, if it works out, if my team will be dominant. And then it just. Hero IR. It could be. It could be. It's like, do I want Jayden, Jalen Hurts? Yeah, I was curious, if you're going another onesie,
Starting point is 00:34:07 which guys are going to be? I'm going to go as much as it could be, Jayden, and how fun that would be. I'm going to stick with the tried and true. I'm going to take Jalen Hurts. Long may reign the tush-push. OK, yeah. Which it seems as though the next pick for Brooks
Starting point is 00:34:25 was gonna be Jalen Hurts. Oh eat it Brooks! At least you unsettled him. Yeah well he wanted the stack. Yeah he did and he ends up with Jaden Daniels off the board, Hurts and Daniels so four quarterbacks in the fifth round. Well that's a shame I really wanted one. I had four quarterbacks queued up. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurst. You knew that run was gonna start. Jaden Daniels and it ran. It started and it stopped because for me that's the end of that kind of tier. So I'm at a place here where the onesie positions quarterback and tight end I would pull the trigger on any of
Starting point is 00:35:02 the true difference makers here, but there are seven Difference makers between those two positions you're talking about powers McBride Kittle and then the aforementioned four quarterbacks. They're all gone So I'm back to running back and wide receiver when you end that break That doesn't mean you just take the next best quarterback or the next best tight end because you know They're not difference makers TJ Hawkins. It's, Samuel Laporte is fine, you know those are Johnnysmith was the tight end four last year if he's you know a dolphin I think he's gonna be but he's not winning people championship none of those guys
Starting point is 00:35:36 are so I want the depth at the position where you need more guys I'm gonna take first off Tedaroa McMillan at wide receiver. Oh, nice. He was very much in consideration for my next pick. And now, you know, I've got a bunch of options at wide receiver guys like Ze Flowers, Chris Olave, who I love and I'm terrified of and forever will be. And then at running back, you've got some of the rookies that are down there. But I think there is one guy kind of sitting in a tier by himself. He's a vet.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Oh please, please take him away. Take him away from me, dude. Save me from myself. Because he'd be in consideration for you. Oh yeah, he's in the queue. And you hate him. Yeah. I will take Joseph.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Oh, you're such a sweet, sweet man. Joseph Mixon. Oh, thank God. And his Technicolor dream coat is on my roster. I'm just going back and forth, running back wide receiver. The fact that it was mixing and I thought that the player was gonna be Ken Walker that he wanted saving from? No.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Oh, Ken Walker's who he wants to. No, Ken Walker's who I'm drafting right now, baby. He's who he wants to save him. Next pick. Can we pre-fill out Mike's team before these mocks? We sure can. We always can. Ken Walker CMC Garrett Wilson They're done. Yeah, they're always on the roster when you put your I thought you were saving him from Ken Walker July 1st
Starting point is 00:36:53 July 1st our draft analyzer Launches if you put this league into there I know who's gonna like your team most for sure. It will be you per my projections of rankings guys. I am it destroying Yeah, the IR is filled. Yeah Boy, actually look at your team Mike puka a year of IR. Yeah CMC mm-hmm Ken Walker. Yeah, I mean Kittles got himself Think by the rules it means they are due to not be injured. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:28 The rule of due. The rule of due. Good luck with that. That'll be fun. Okay. After Ken Walker, which by the way went mix and flowers Ken Walker, Hampton off the board, Joe Burrow, which would have been, you know, in the sixth round, we just talked about,
Starting point is 00:37:48 I mean, sixth round, the 10 team. He's in the difference makers to me of the quarterback position. We just talked Baker and Burrow, but Burrow has been a fourth rounder. Obviously, this is a 10 team league. Waddle off the board at the 6.06. So you have another believer in Betsy, Mike.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Best running backs available, I have Bijan and Brees right now with Harrison, Jamison, and Tyreek. Best running backs available right now on the board. You have your shots with R.J. Harvey, who we talked about in the news section, or Judkins. You've got some veterans, James Connor sitting there, Aaron Jones, who we talked about recently, and at wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:38:28 you know, the highest guys on my board at this point are probably, or the players I'm considering the most, probably Chris Godwin. At one depth in a three wide to have another guy that can come in and make a big difference, especially with volatility and Jameson Williams, Travis Hunter, rookie wide receiver slash DB sitting there. Um, and I like Pierce Hall and Jayden Reed, but I think they can, they can slip quite a bit at tight end. You've noticed there haven't been one, there hasn't been one that's gone in two rounds because nobody really wants to pull the trigger on the next tier, which is like Hawkinson,
Starting point is 00:39:06 Laporta, Johnu, Nijoku, Kelsey, whatever order you have them in. And then at quarterback, after Burrow's gone, same story. Yeah, and if you're wondering when to pull the trigger on that next tier of tight ends, it's not a matter of I don't want Hawkinson or I don't want Laporta, it's who are the other positions available?
Starting point is 00:39:26 Are there still really good wide receivers, running backs that you love? Like Joe Mixon, he's still a top 15 running back. He's there, man. But you're going to run out of those wide receivers and running backs here in the next probably few picks, and then you pull the trigger. Yeah there's there's a handful of in both categories that I think I'm I
Starting point is 00:39:49 like quite a bit. I like Xavier Worthy too. I have him ranked fairly highly so I'm gonna actually go I'm gonna go Godwin here and see what comes around at running back or the other positions on the way back through. Travion goes next to Kyborg which he's drafted him right now as his running back two in the sixth round. I know Jason and I are... Kyle also went double onesies. He did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Which he had a chance to go wide receiver running back at that spot. Goes Travion, Connor off the board, Olave off the board in the sixth round. The Olave-Pacheco combo by Papa Josh is quite the combo. It's dangerous. It could be a boat. It could be awesome. It could be a boat. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It is a boat. There's just a bunch of holes in the bottom, but it is a really nice boat. Now push it out to sea and let's find out what happens. Right, so Xavier Worthy did go at 7.03. Kyle grabbed him to round out Lamb and Devante Smith and Zavir Worthy. Again, if you're on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:40:51 you can see the whole draft board up there, all the different teams and all the different picks. It's a good opportunity for you to take inventory of how it went down, because look, mock drafting, the reason we're doing this, see how things play out in a real scenario. And what kind of, you know, what do the hooligans in our office do to try to take players
Starting point is 00:41:10 we care about away from us. So I'm back on the clock. My running backs right now, Bijan and Breeze. Couple of the rookies sitting there, RJ Harvey. Did the news today make either of you nervous? No. It didn't make me nervous personally. No I saw Dobbins play most of his games last year. Where are you with Deandre Swift this year? There was another news blurb about him
Starting point is 00:41:37 preparing for a bigger workload. We are, I mean the further you, the closer you get to the season, the more like you just have to take a chance. Thank goodness he's not steamed up yet. I hope he doesn't. He won't because he like, there's players where you just like, I don't believe in Deandre Swift, but given his price and what I believe about Ben Johnson and what I believe about Ben Johnson and what I think that that offense is gonna do, I'll take chances on some of those guys.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I'll say I'm willing to be wrong on this one with them on my roster. Those guys, you're like, I'm willing to be wrong, just pass them. It's I'm willing to be wrong and draft them. This is about where he's going in most drafts. There are 22 running backs off the board right now. So he would be the 23rd ranked quarterback. he has never finished worse than 23rd in his career
Starting point is 00:42:29 including the seasons he's missed games. All right I will make my pick in just a moment. Did you hear that thing about you're drafting him on his floor for Deandre Swift? He's never finished lower than this if you draft him here? Yeah, you want me to take on taking David Montgomery? The bait was set, man. I thought this guy's hungry. He's full, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:56 He's double hooked. All right. I already got the breeze hall, Tyree Kill, death trap. No, David Montgomery is such a perfect pick in the seventh round here. First of all, it's like two and a half rounds higher than his ADP in a 10 team right now. And it's also like, you need,
Starting point is 00:43:13 I could have gone rookie running back, right? But Breeze has questions and question marks. So getting David Montgomery, who you know has that solid floor to me in the seventh round is a value. I figured it's that or the rookies and the rookies go next. R.J. Harvey and Quintchon Judkins back to back right after the Monty pick. Hawkinson off the board to Al Borland finally pulls the trigger on the next tier which is good value on
Starting point is 00:43:36 ADP and then Mike you are back up on the clock. I am back so right now I have two running backs, two wide receivers, my tight end and my quarterback. Because it is a three wide I need to start stockpiling. The build of this team will be stockpiling more wide receivers and this won't be a team that looks just like unbelievably incredible like a running back depth that's going to be up over the season. I will be focusing more on that. So I'm gonna take my current highest projected wide receiver. I'll take Jordan Addison,
Starting point is 00:44:13 10 touchdowns, two straight years. What if Jordan Addison is just really good? So if my wide receiver three at this point, I'm happy with this draft pick. Brooks goes to Juwan Jennings, right after Jordan Addison. Jason, you're back on the clock with a double, triple situation going on.
Starting point is 00:44:36 You got Nico, JSN, and McMillan. Call that a triple double. Thank you. Gentie, Kyron, Mixon. Mixon in the sixth just looks great. I'm thrilled with my running backs and wide receivers right now. I wish I had a little bit more depth at wide receiver
Starting point is 00:44:52 being that it's three wide. There is a player I really, really want, he's lower on ADP, I can't imagine with this group of people he would come back to me. So I'm trying to decide whether I play the game or not. Travis Hunter is here. I've been rising on him more and more and more. The more that it seems like he is, just, he's a wide receiver. Like if he's- Yes, he will be a wide receiver and maybe some DB.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah, I mean, if he's gonna be a full-time wide receiver, and that's still my fear, is that he's gonna be like an involved wide receiver, just not a full-time wide receiver. If he's a full-time wide receiver, that dude is so talented. You know, I mean, there's a reason he's drafted where he was. That's where it's, it's, I can't wrap my head around fully the Travis Hunter, just the whole situation of, because watching Cohen talk about it is like, you know, he's in the wide receiver meetings and it's, he's, one one of the coaches admitted like, ah, it's going to be pretty difficult right now to get him playing both.
Starting point is 00:45:53 So, you know, fully signaling that this guy will be a full-time wide receiver, part-time DB. And then it's like, wait, you traded all of that to move up to get Travis Hunter like that is that is that is a really strong signal. That is the highest if he's just a wide receiver it's the highest draft the wide out since Calvin that's wild. Yeah that's what I'm saying like it is crazy how much they spent to to go after him which you know to me I'm like I don't fully know how it will work for Travis Underwood. I can't tell you this is exactly the path. It is more of a, that
Starting point is 00:46:30 dude is good. A team mortgaged their future to move up and go and get him. They will have to figure out how to use him. Before you even brought him up, he wasn't gonna make it past my next pick. Yeah, so now the question is, do I, I'm looking between two players, Sam Laporta. He is now at the point where I think he's a fine pick. Problem is I just don't know how different he is from Evan Ingram and David Najoku and Tyler Warren
Starting point is 00:47:00 and Dalton Kukade and John New Smith. So I'm going to grab the guy I actually want, who I would hope comes back to me, but he wouldn't with this group of Sharks. So I'm gonna take Caleb Johnson. I believe that the rookie running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers has a legitimate, a fully legitimate chance to be
Starting point is 00:47:20 the second highest rookie running back this year and outstanding for fantasy football. Mike, you're back on the clock. Aaron Jones drops to 8.02 after Jason's Caleb Johnson pick. Mike, you have your onesies. You can go anywhere you want. You've got five rounds left. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:47:36 So speaking of a player that I don't necessarily fully believe in, but I know that a lot of people do. I know you guys do. And here is my wide receiver four that's fine I'll take the chance on it in the no I won't I'm going with Rome the Jerry Judy my I have to hear that it's flacco like I don't blame people at all who are like no I'm gonna go into Jerry Judy I'm gonna take what he did and say that it was a true level up but to me if it's not Joe Flacco I don't really want a part of it
Starting point is 00:48:07 but Rome with you know with what they're doing in Chicago then yeah I'm in as my wide receiver for my homes finally goes right after Roma doons a at 804 and the often forgotten but never unproductive Jacobyoby Myers goes at 8.05. Calvin Ridley off the board. 27 running backs have been taken now, Andy. DeAndre Swift still a bill. Oh no, I'm taking DeAndre Swift. Yeah, I'm taking DeAndre Swift. I was gonna tell you.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I would too. Like I was thinking about him in the previous round. Like the opportunity for him is awesome. So I'm gonna go DeAndre Swift in the eighth, late eighth round. Diggs and Trey Harris go next. Um, you know, speaking of Diggs in New England, positive Kyle Williams chatter. Just watching him at camp. Trey Harris, Tony Pollard, Jerry Judy, Johnny Smith, Rickyicky piersol who is very high up on the list off the board and
Starting point is 00:49:07 Sitting here in the ninth. I am now going to take discount joe burrow Baker mayfield will be my quarterback. He will also be a stack with chris godwin who I took in the sixth round So that makes me feel cozy they're taking burrow much much later just in this draft example Like 80 pys in a normal 12 team it was fourth and sixth round for Burrow and Baker, and this one it was sixth and now ninth round for Burrow and Baker. It's the right time to put a top upper echelon guy at the quarterback position on my team. Laporta goes next, so John Nguyen Laporta in the ninth round. I think that lap or the value is Fantastic that you know He's in the same tier as Hawkinson who was genuinely a value by the time it got taken in the seven this this group is not
Starting point is 00:49:51 Drafting how I think most average groups will I think those middle tier tight ends will be pushed up Because people are like I need a tight end and they'll grab them earlier. This was done just the right way kudos Good job everybody everybody. Good job, us. Jaden Reed at 9.07. Great value there, in my opinion. Mike on the clock again. Addison and Rome, the last two picks. Okay, so I feel okay about the wide receiver depth at this point now, with Rome being my four. Gonna take a chance of, I don't know where he would go in the draft, but I'm gonna take Cam Scataboo.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I love it. Projected by me, starter for the New York Giants eventually. That was a pick over Tracy? Yeah. So that's a pick over Tyrone Tracy, which is still a tough one for me to make. I think it's gonna start with Scataboo as the third down running back, but in my evaluation,
Starting point is 00:50:44 I think Cam is just a player that sooner than later will be, you can't take him off the field. We gotta keep him out there. Jason, you are back on the clock. Couple of rookies with your last two picks, maybe to compensate for Joe Mixon, I don't know. Actually, you've drafted rookies.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Three out of the last four. Ted O'Rourke, McMillan, Hunter, Caleb Johnson. Back to back picks here. You are still in need of a quarterback tight end. And I'm going with the onesies here. So the tight end I'm making, you know, I'm trying to keep my age in the middle. So a lot of rookies, and then I'm gonna add Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Yeah, I thought about, yeah. At this point, if you're at the 9-10 turn, I'm projecting him to lose a lot this year to the other guys, but I don't care. Yeah, take that chance. I'm looking at him or a lot this year to the other guys, but I don't care. Yeah. Take that chance. I'm looking at him or Evan Ingram. Give me Travis Kelce. And then at quarterback, I could go a couple different ways here. I think personally it's between Bo Nix and Kyler Murray. I like both players. I am fine and happy with both quarterback situations. Didn't I draft Bo
Starting point is 00:51:44 Nix in our last mock? You probably wanted to if you didn't. I probably did because I want to. I'm gonna do it again! I'm gonna take Bo Nix. I'm gonna do it again. He was in quarterback seven you know after the the first month of the season going on his rookie season. I think you did it in the dynasty mock. Your mocks are all merging together. There's no way for you to know. You just start the next one when the last one finishes. Keon Coleman goes next to Brooks. You're back on the clock. Three picks left. So wide receivers, ADP-wise at least, you're talking Shakir, Ayuk, who's not even an option for me, Debo, the ghost of Cooper Cup. Josh Downs is very interesting right here.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Oh, man. I'm going to take Josh Downs here. I would have it would have been nice if you took time on Tracy and double backfield. Oh, that seems like just wanting to punch yourself with the balls over and over and over. Yeah. Oh, you will hate yourself. Yeah, you would do that. Tracy will never get it right. He goes next. No, you
Starting point is 00:52:46 won't. And then Cooper Cup, Najee Harris. I'm sitting back on the board here. Um, I need a tight end. The two teams, the three teams drafting after me, I'll have tight ends. There you go. So in that situation, I will allow them to draft the second tight end if they want to. So I'm not going to go there. I'm looking at some upside prospects. So I'm going to go Matthew Golden, who should start right away for Green Bay and take him in the 10th here in a three-wide league. Give myself some upside there. Warren, Jack Besh off the board at 10.09.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Kyler at 10.10. off the board at 10.09. Kyler a 10.10. And then you have Javonte Williams, still wearing the dimmer colors here in our mock draft, threw me off for a second. Travis Etienne, a sweet 11th round pick. Oh how you have fallen. And Jordan Mason next off the board. So I was right, no one else took a second tight end, so I can go ahead and not worry about that. My next two tight ends off the board, I will take one here, I've got a long wait and I don't wanna wait till the last round for the next tier. And that next tier for me is Evan Ingram
Starting point is 00:53:53 and David Njoku. Quarterback question for Njoku, not that way for Evan Ingram. They're so tight in my projections and rankings, I have Ingram one spot higher. So I will take Evan Ingram in the 11th round here and count on Jason's quarterback bone-next to supply the goods. Pittman and Nujoku go next as we are getting towards the end of this draft. Mike you are back on the clock. Scataboo and
Starting point is 00:54:18 Downs your last two picks. You can take a shot at anything you want. So we're upside only at this point. Can I just ask since you're the CMC guy, do you consider Gerindo as one of those options at the last pick of... Especially Hero RB style? Yeah, I don't think that that's a bad decision by Amy's. We're only going you know what's our bench for? Yep. So what makes it harder? With a four bench I'm I might not do it because that's gonna be man if you only have three bench spots to cycle through for your waiver wire because if you draft
Starting point is 00:55:00 Garendo here you're locked with them. I mean you're gonna feel like the moment you drop Garendo that's that's when the shoe falls so I'm just looking at upside which to me is I'm looking at the rookies no I have a Bucca Luther burden I do already have Rome so I don't know that I want to double up on the Rams guys but I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the shot on Jaden Higgins, Houston Texans wide receiver two. Okay, that makes some sense. You're looking for some upside and opportunity. It was funny, they were showing the Texans camp interviews.
Starting point is 00:55:33 It's like they're talking to the different guys. They've been talking about Stroud. Do they worry about the injury? And whose face just pops up on the screen? It's Christian Kirk. Just Christian Kirk talking it up. Like there was that moment of like. He'll be the slot guy. Like if we had a segment on the show, it's Christian Kirk. Just Christian Kirk talking it up. There was that moment of like. He'll be the slot guy.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Like if we had a segment on the show of like, dudes that'll do stuff but you'll probably forget are gonna do stuff. Like if that show existed, that episode, Christian Kirk's gonna be sitting there. It's like when they give you the poster of it, it's like, here's actors that you definitely recognize but you have no idea what their name is.
Starting point is 00:56:04 It is, it is. And good pick, Jay. That was gonna be my next pick. If I could somehow take him. Cedric Tillman or the Deebo Samuel? Deebo Samuel in the 11th round. He was definitely sticking out like a sore thumb as an upside play this late in the draft, so good pick.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Cedric Tillman goes at the 12-0-1. Mark Andrews hangs on, finds his way into our draft, goes at the 12-0-2. Mark Andrews hangs on, finds his way into our draft, goes at the 12-0-2, the last pick for Brooksy. Mark Andrews, the last tight end drafted in this draft. Oh, how the mighty have fallen after getting his highest touchdowns of his career last year. I want somebody to build
Starting point is 00:56:39 the ultimate touchdown regression roster. Like Terry McLorin, James Cook, Mark Andrews, Baker Mayfield, all touchdown over performers. Looks amazing and see what happens. It won't be good. Mike, you have a last pick here, take a shot. And this is because of when we're drafting, we don't have all the information.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Cohen did just give a heaping amount of praise to Travis ETN, which I don't know if I buy it but he did do that a couple years back with Rashad White and then Rashad White was the dude who was everything and it was disgusting and inefficient so I was like, does he just do that with Travis ETN? But I bring that up because I'll take the shot at that. Bashall Tutin, the rookie. I'm not nearly as bullish as Twitter is that Tutin's just taking over.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I don't know if that's going to happen. No, I don't think that's going to happen at all. I want to take in Tank Bigsby. I was going to say Tank Bigsby. You could put all three in any order you want. But here's what I know that Tank Bigsby will not take over, catching the ball. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And the Cohen system has utilized checking it down to the running back position, and I know that won't be Tank. Tank Bigsby literally thinks he is playing volleyball when he's in the pass catching game. It's a bump set. I'm glad you brought that up. My pick for who would be the most valuable is Tank Bigsby but at this point I'm just trying to get a pass catching running back. I have four running backs on my roster for five wide receivers at this
Starting point is 00:58:14 point. Evany Nirmal is my last pick. I'm considering Tyler Warren with the final pick here. Just an opportunity for upside same thing with I, I mean, I can go Colston Loveland. I want to throw another name out there that's a great last round high upside pick that I think is, you know, it's so gross. There's a reason he's in the last round. But Anthony Richardson. Well, and Fields too. Sure. I'm just saying like, you know, last year, the fifth round pick, if he's the starter this year, he's going to score fantasy points with his rushing.
Starting point is 00:58:45 So as a double tap at quarterback, you know, I almost took him to pair with Bo Nix in case Bo Nix doesn't level up. Yeah, yeah, you could do that, especially as late as I took Baker. I am in a 10 teamer. I don't think that's a bad strategy. If you waited on quarterback, you know, like, yeah, you took Bo Nix in the, what, the 10th? Yeah, I don't mind that at all. And it's tough because I think, I mean, Ramon Ray, nobody wants to draft him. He's still sitting there. Yeah. Probably starting. You know, this has been a very productive NFL pro to the tune of getting a contract.
Starting point is 00:59:15 And the team has talked very positively. I'm I'm actually going to I'm just going to roll Tyler Warren here and just see if you get a breakout style campaign. We're we're two in a row at this point. I'm not laughing at you. You're laughing at Kyle taking the undrafted. The un-teamed. The un-rostered. The un-rostered Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Keenan Allen, of course. It's not a bad pick right now. I mean, it's stupid because we don't know where he is. It's not that stupid. Well, it's stupid because he won't be here. Like, if he gets a team, you know what I mean, come draft season, he's gonna be several rounds higher. So it's a good pick, but.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Kyle has repeatedly told me that the Cardinals are gonna sign Keenan Allen. Oh, that would be super awesome. I'm almost, I'm fully in that camp. Like I think we talked about that a while ago. It's either Greg Dortch. Michael Wilson. No, Wilson will be on the outside.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Wilson was a sneaky, he's a sneaky late round pick in a 12 team league. because the camp buzz is very positive and he's gonna be on the field. Is it? Yeah, Michael Wilson is, look if you think about, like we see them, they didn't address the offense in the draft and that means a lot to us when we're like ah, it's a big pat on the butt
Starting point is 01:00:18 to Kyler and Marvin Harrison. It's also an endorsement of Michael Wilson because you didn't spend any depth picks on wide receivers in this entire offense when you didn't have anybody last year, to me it was an endorsement of his spot on the roster, but. I did on the roster, it was just the path to upside when he played 16 games, played 13 games as a rookie
Starting point is 01:00:43 and he's been basically at 550 yards for both seasons. That's a hard hit. Well, now he has to compete with Zay Jones. His ceiling is Jacobi Myers. I'm not telling you he's a special player. But he could get there on the right year. All right, so my final roster, Bijan, Breeze, Monte, and Swift at running back, Harrison,
Starting point is 01:01:04 we've got Jamison, Williams, Tyree Kale, Chris Godwin, Michael, Golden. Matthew. Matthew, Golden. And then Baker at quarterback, and Ingram and Warren, double tap on the final two rounds at tight end. I got Pukinakua, Garrett Wilson, Jordan Addison, Roma doomsday Josh Downs, and Jaden Higgins as my wide receivers. I
Starting point is 01:01:25 got probably IR running backs here, but high upside. Christian McCaffrey, Ken Bonewalker, Cam Scadaboo, and Bayshaw Tooten. And then my onesies are George Kittle and Jalen Hertz. That is a very hero RB starting lineup. I've got the- Ten team, it's easier to find running backs and stuff on the waiver wire. Yeah. The late round onesies of Bo Nix and Travis Kelsey. My wide receivers are Nico Collins, JSN, Ted O'Rourke McMillan, and Travis Hunter, as well as Deebo, Samuel, and Cedric Tillman. At running back, Ashland Genti, Kyron Williams, Joe Mixon, and Caleb Johnson. Love that core. All right, well that is
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