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Episode Date: July 8, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Welcome in. You seem disappointed jason i think it's not just me i think andy's a little disappointed as well we thought there was a chance you'd uh you'd mock draft time yeah people have been kind of hankering for just a little something different on the intro and thought that you would get involved. I see. It's a big day. It's the first time we're going to mock draft with the Ducers. And I thought we might get in. It's mock draft time.
Starting point is 00:01:55 See, I don't see them as special. That's fair. We are doing them every Saturday. I see this more. Oh, I thought you meant the deucers. Yeah. Oh, right. That's what I was talking about.
Starting point is 00:02:08 The mock draft is special. Yeah, well, it's great. And it's like we're doing them a favor that they get to mock draft. Right. We're kind of taking this show down a notch. Yes. By including the deucers. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Because we are so kind. So why should I emphasize this particular episode? Right. I don't know if I'm in on any of this. I like these guys. Yeah, I like them too. They're just not special people. I love them and I think you are very special.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Welcome into a Saturday episode of the Fantasy Footballers. Andy, Mike and Jason along with Al Borland, Judge Giamatti in the building is the Rapscallion on the microphone but not present is the Rapscallion. On the microphone, but not present, is the Borgogin. And he will be participating in the draft as well.
Starting point is 00:02:57 When we say everyone's nickname is like in a line, it really emphasizes just how ridiculous this show is. But people have asked. People have asked for the mock draft episodes to include the Ducers. That's what we're going to do today. In fact, Mike. Maka laka ding dong. See? One of them hit that button.
Starting point is 00:03:14 That's how they contribute. Mike's going to draft from the one spot. Kyle from the four. I'm at the five. Al Borland, I enjoy this. He is at the seven right ahead of Jason at the eight. And then the judge himself at the 10 spot in today's mock draft. That's going to be a lot of fun here at the top.
Starting point is 00:03:33 We do have a quick question. I want to remind people about a couple of things. One, you can find us over on Twitter at the FFBallers. And then our individual handles, which are both on Twitter. And now I don't know if you know, um, threads. It's so hot. It's a thing.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I'm threading. He's threading. Oh, I'd be threading. Yeah. Uh, Mike, Mike is just incredible threads.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Uh, and you can find us on both Twitter and anything else that comes out this week at Andy Holloway at Jason F FFL, at FFHitman. The main handle over there is at Fantasy Footballers. And on Twitter, it's at the FFBallers, if you'd be threatened. No, people be. We're everywhere else as well. We'd love it if you'd follow the show.
Starting point is 00:04:22 We're on YouTube. You can watch it, youtube.com slash thef footballer subscribe click the bell these are great episodes if you've never experienced the youtube number one experience the handsomeness number two the draft board will be up there so i mean like we do our best to convey everything that has happened in the mock draft the players who are available the players who were just drafted. But if you want to visually follow along, we make that possible. Yeah, the draft board is up there. And today should be really interesting. We have, you know, this is a better representation
Starting point is 00:04:55 of what your draft day would be like because there are plans and egos and human beings, and also they know us pretty well. We know them pretty well. And so there could be some gamesmanship involved in the mock draft, and you'll get to witness all of that. The Ultimate Draft Kit is available, ultimatedraftkit.com. You'll want to check that out.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I think the Deucers are going to be leaning heavily on it today. That's what they told me, at least. It's the only reason I'm worried. We need it. So, yeah, ultimatedraftkit.com. Updates very frequently over there. As soon as Dalvin Cook signs with the Jets, we'll update that, Jason, so you know where he'll be ranked.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Where's your concern meter? It's at a zero, Mike, because I am ignoring all of it. Okay. So I have no concerns. Free as a bird. Okay. But what's your real concern? Probably an eight.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Okay. All right. Our quick question from YouTube, Zach Williamson 13 says, What do you do about an active and otherwise good member of the league who is really just bad at fantasy and frequently makes very bad trades that make the rich richer? Be the rich. Be the richer.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Oh, man. I mean, know your mark because every league has them, you know? You've got to befriend that person. You've got to take your arm, put it over his shoulder, and bring him in close. Get all of his players. I have been in leagues like this where it's almost, it's like first one to this player wins the day
Starting point is 00:06:43 until the roster is depleted and there's nothing left to get. It really isn't. I drink your milkshake. Yes, I mean. I drink it up. I mean, if they're in the league, you don't want to be on the sidelines while it happens.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I mean, there could be some altruistic answer here about teaching them how to play. Tell them about the show. Yeah, I was going to say, after someone else has taken first dibs on their good players, then you can tell them about the show. It's like, hey, maybe get a little better. But don't do that before you have the opportunity to take those great players. How do you feel about the, like if you could choose the active
Starting point is 00:07:27 and otherwise good member of the league that makes bad decisions or the inactive player that is still competitive? Give me the active one that sucks. It's better for the league and better for me. Like that's one of the easiest questions you've ever asked okay all right um it it seems like they should learn over time right they will i mean genuinely it's it well i'm thinking i'm thinking through some of my leagues it's a long process for some people uh brooks had the idea of maybe you throw a little like a lot of times when deals get done in our leagues we throw a poll up and the league will vote on it and maybe if they see the vote
Starting point is 00:08:10 like enough times yeah but then they might they might not be out yeah like you can only get dunked on so many times before you stop going up to block the shot and you're just like yeah i'm not doing this anymore so like the polls have their yeah yeah when when people are doing that and they're like uh this is a 10 to 0 victory of who won this trade i i mean we we've certainly been in those leagues especially in dynasty where even the perceived rich get richer trade doesn't pan out that way um but i've definitely had trades i felt guilty for like i get them done here's what happens if you have one of those people in your league you make the trade you get the players you want you know that you've just raked them over the
Starting point is 00:08:57 coals and then you defend the league why it's good for the other player. Oh, yeah. You have to. So you can justify yourself. You have to say stuff like, I almost didn't take this trade. Lies. That is a good one. Yeah. I almost didn't do it. There's a lot of risk here for me. Fantasy football can be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah. All right. You guys ready for this mock draft? Let's go. The Fantasy Footballers Mock Draft. Well, here we go. Like I said, Mike at the one spot. Kyle the Borgogon at the four spot.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I'm at five. Jeremy Alborland at seven. Jason's at the eight spot. And Brooks is drafting from the 10 spot. We went 12-team half PPR, one quarterback, two running backs, two wide receivers, one tight end, one flex, four bench spots. And, Mike, you get to kick this thing off because you have the 101. It's your opportunity to finally take Chris Olave at the 101. Ooh, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:10:11 The best part of the 101 is I can select any player that I want. I would love to give a – I would love to start this draft off with some funky business, but I'm not going to. I will just say at the 101, I'm going to take Christian McCaffrey, but it does not bother me in the slightest. If you want to go Jefferson, Kopp, Jamar Chase, Christian McCaffrey with the 101, I think that is a perfectly rational thing to do for all four of those players. Well, here we go. The first pick by a producer, the Borgogon on the clock at 104.
Starting point is 00:10:46 McCaffrey, Jefferson, and Kup off the board. I think we've seen Cooper Kup's ADP rising. And here is Jamar Chase on the board, who goes to the Borgogon. Yeah. The first four picks of the draft are pretty easy right now. Uh, this is, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:09 not my favorite situation here. I thought about, I'm sitting here at one on five. Jamar chase went to the board. Go again. Are you, uh, were you excited to see chase drop there,
Starting point is 00:11:19 Kyle? Yes. We talked about on the dynasty show. I'm super pumped this year. All right. Um, I'm going to stay with the wide receiver run. I'm going to take Tyreek Hill at the 105. I don't really view those four players very differently.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah, Tyreek, I think, is also fine to include in those. So I did think a little bit about Travis Kelsey just because none of our mocks, I don't think any of us have taken him in the first, but no. At 105, I'm going to take Tyreek Hill to compete with those top three guys that went just before him. Jonathan Taylor goes off the board at 106, the second running back. So producer Borland is on the clock, and I think you might be happy. I am happy other than this didn't go the way I wanted it to.
Starting point is 00:12:09 What I wanted to happen was me to take Bijan here in front of Jason and leave him with Travis Kelsey. But with Austin Eckler on the board, I got to go there. Austin Eckler at 107. Yeah, that is upsetting because I did not think austin eckler would get to me at 108 and he didn't but when he goes right next to you it just feels a little worse like if he went you know he would have been my pick at the 105 where you took uh tyreek hill uh so you know and i would have felt better about him not being so close to me at this point obviously travis kelsey
Starting point is 00:12:43 still there i think these other two guys that might be an auto selection for them I'm less bullish on a first round uh tight end personally Bijan is there we know I love Bijan he is fantastic but fantastic um I have not drafted him much in best ball simply because I think right now he's being drafted basically at his ceiling. He's usually the third running back off the board. I don't even have him at running back three. I have him.
Starting point is 00:13:15 You, I believe right now in my rankings, he's my running back five. I've got Saquon Barkley a little higher and I've got Stefan Diggs here that I could grab. All that being said, I am going to grab Bijan. I haven't had him yet. I want to see how my roster turns out with him. This is... And it's on brand. So I will take a first fake share of Bijan Robinson.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Bijan at 108. Ahead of Nick Chubb and Barkley and Derrick Henry and Josh Jacobs, who I know our consensus situation there is Josh Jacobs is at three as a group. Jacobs and Saquon both holding out as of right now. And, Mike, you were doing some research on that situation. Brooksy had asked me, do we need to start getting worried? What's the situation with the franchise tag so july 17th will be the deadline for a multi-year extension so anyone
Starting point is 00:14:12 who was tagged with the franchise tag um that's when they can you know that's their final day if they don't get a deal done then you wait you have to wait until the uh the n NFL season is over to get back to the negotiation table. Tony Pollard is on the tag. He signed his, so he's playing for the Dallas Cowboys this year. He's guaranteed that $10 or $11 million. I cannot recall off the top of my head. But we are currently watching Josh Jacobs, Saquon Barkley, and tight end Evan Engram of the Jacksonville Jaguars,
Starting point is 00:14:44 who are big offensive players who were franchise tagged and have not yet signed those, guaranteeing their money, their spot on the team. So it's kind of watching the news to see if the long-term deal, I would think of the three the most likely to get done before the 17th would be Evan Engram because I think these running backs are likely going to just pass that date up. They're going to miss as much camp as they want to because if you have not signed your franchise tag, you are not under contract.
Starting point is 00:15:20 You cannot be fined because you are not a contracted employee of that team. So they can just keep waiting and then eventually sign it and then come back to the team. I think the only risk, though, is a team rescinding the franchise tag. But I'm not 100% sure if they're past the 17th if they can do that. So I would have to look that up. Saquon went right after Bijon. Jason's pick at 108.
Starting point is 00:15:48 This will be interesting here. Brooks on the clock at 110. What are you thinking about here? I've never had this guy on my roster, and it sounds like a lot of fun this year. We're going to the Nick Chubb right here in the first round. Oh, yeah, I like it. I moved him up after our talk of the, will he get more pass catching?
Starting point is 00:16:07 And I think he'll get at least, I didn't go out of control, but I bumped him from a 7% share up to I think a 9% share, a 9% target share for Nick Chubb with what he does. He could be the best pick in the first round. Yeah, I mean, he has the possibility of finishing at 101 overall. He did it over a 10-week stretch last year, and that was without increased receiving work. He's capable of it, and I believe that that team is going to be very good.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Stephon Diggs goes after Nick Chubb, and then Travis Kelsey at 112. And then we turn it to CeeDee Lamb and Devontae Adams coming around into the second round. Brooks back on the clock, Nick Chubb on the roster. Lots of options out there, including running backs, Pollard, Jacobs, Henry, Brees Hall, wide receivers like A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, among many others. Where are you going, Brooksie? Man, this one's tough, but I'm going to go A.J. Brown
Starting point is 00:17:06 right here. Yeah, I like it. I do not think we've had A.J. Brown on a mock draft roster yet this offseason among the three of us. Picked up by Brooks, Chubb, and Brown. Pretty guaranteed production in the first and second round
Starting point is 00:17:22 for Brooksy. And then Patrick Mahomes goes at 204. Jason back on the clock. Bijan Robinson on the roster. And a long wait after this pick. Where are you going? Well, this format is two running backs, two wide receivers, and a flex. Unlike underdog where you've got the third wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Being it's a little bit more balanced, I want to start running back running back and see how my team looks considering I've got Josh Jacobs available you're talking about I have two of my top five running backs so I'm going to take Bijan Robinson and Josh Jacobs I think that will set me up to shotgun approach wide receivers ultimately that's a great start and I would be very content with them in flipped spots. Sure. So, I mean, if you had gone Jacobs-Robinson,
Starting point is 00:18:09 I mean, you got the same two players. Producer Borland back on the clock. Austin Eckler, the steal in the first round at 107, and the opportunity to go all Packers here on out. That's not going to happen, but I am going to keep the tee high with Jason here. I'm going to go Derrick Henry starting running back as well. Oh, baby.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Eckler Derrick Henry is the kind of running back room that you, when you see it on the opposing team, you're not looking forward to that match. No. You start leaking. It feels like a combination, Eckler and Derrick Henry, where you win a championship in the League of Record last year. Oh, is that what it was?
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, baby. Those are my two running backs. You won last year, huh? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Never forget it. I did. Well, I'll make sure you don't.
Starting point is 00:18:58 All right. I am back on the clock, and I'm going to go a different direction than some of these previous drafts. Patrick Mahomes is off the board, and I'm going to go a different direction than some of these previous drafts. Patrick Mahomes is off the board, but I'm going quarterback. I'm taking Josh Allen in the second round here to go with Tyreek Hill. Part of that decision-making is that the running backs on the board are in a kind of muddy group where Brees Hall, the injury in the Dalvin Cook situation.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I do like Ramondre, but I don't like taking him here. Najee, I'm not all in on ETN. Okay. Not super excited about Walker Gibbs. I like, but not at the 208. So I'm going to take the shot on the quarterback and go with Josh Allen here in the second round. Interesting to go with Tyreek Hill,
Starting point is 00:19:45 the Borgogan on the clock. I'm going to go super low-T and go with Mike's Dynasty team and go with Garrett Wilson here. Oh, you bum. So Jamar Chase. Oh, man. Garrett Wilson. The combination to start the draft for the Borgogon.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Jalen Hurts off the board at 210. I figured both quarterbacks would be leaving shortly after my pick. Amon Ross St. Brown goes next. Mike, you are back. Finally you get to pick again. Christian McCaffrey needs two teammates. He does. I had dreams
Starting point is 00:20:19 of getting both second year studs on this turn here. If you could start Christian McCaffrey and then go Wilson, Olave, that would feel pretty, pretty good. There's still a lot of quality players here. Jalen Waddell has somehow made it back to me. I guess three quarterbacks will do that. T. Higgins, who I have ranked, I think, a little bit higher.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Where do you guys have Higgins right about now? I've got Higgins who I have I have ranked I think a little bit higher where do you guys have Higgins right about now I've got Higgins pretty darn high I have him inside my top 12 I do as well and he's the first of that three pack right now you're talking about the wide receiver two three pack yeah right now Tee Higgins
Starting point is 00:21:00 I have him at 17 you guys have him at 12 and 8 so little difference there. So when I look at the picks, boiling it down, I'm very bullish on Ramondre Stevenson. I said that in the last mock draft. Have him inside my top five. And then the three wide receivers I would be.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Did you say your top five? Yes. I have Ramondre up there. On the season? Yes. How have we not talked about this? We have. Were you aware you're top five? Yes. I have Ramondre up there. On the season? Yes. How have we not talked about this? We have. Were you aware of this, Jason?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Top five? I was aware of this. You should listen to the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Why wouldn't you say top three? I mean, I could have. I just was keeping it at top five, reminding people. Yeah, Christian McCaffrey's in my top ten. Nope.
Starting point is 00:21:42 That's bold. Yes. I have Ramondre at three. He is currently at three for me. And then the wide receivers. I can smell a my guy from a mile away. It's trending that direction. But I couldn't put him on the board yet because I've got to wait for freaking Dalvin Cook to not land mine my situation.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I believe last I saw, Patriots were odds-on favorites for both Hopkins and Dalvin Cook. It seems like Hopkins is down to the Patriots and the Titans, and Dalvin Cook is the Jets or the Patriots. We shall see. Sorry, my mind was blown. I did not know you had him at three. He ended up
Starting point is 00:22:19 where he ended up. That was at the end of the original statting of your play? That wasn't a recent adjustment? No, that was at the end of the stats.ting of your players? That wasn't a recent adjustment? No, that was at the end of the stats. Where have I been? I don't know. And then the wide receivers, Jalen Waddell, Higgins, Chris Olave. It's very difficult to choose between those three players.
Starting point is 00:22:38 But I'm going to go. The wide receivers are going to thin out for me. So I'm just going to take Ramondre Stevenson there. Keep my two first picks. High testosterone. But then who do you pick between those three guys? We'll find out in a moment, Mike. Oh, no!
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Starting point is 00:23:20 Or visit SecurianCanada.ca. Securian Canada. insurance designed for life. I still don't know. Yeah, well, after the break, we've got two rounds done. So while Mike thinks about it, I'm going to recap the teams for all six of us. Mike with McCaffrey and Stevenson. So you got the double running backs.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Kyle has Jamar Chase and Garrett Wilson. Two wide outs. I went Tyreek Hill and Stevenson. So you got the double running backs. Kyle has Jamar Chase and Garrett Wilson. Two wide outs. I went Tyreek Hill and Josh Allen. And then producer Borland and Jason both have double running backs. Austin Eckler and Henry for Al. And then Jason has Bijan and Josh Jacobs. And Brooks went with Nick Chubb and A.J. Brown. All right, Mike.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Now you're out of time. I have made the decision and these guys are all so tight in the rankings. My rankings do have it going Higgins, Waddle, Olave, but with him being my wide receiver one, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:24:17 shoot for the stars and of those three pack, only Chris Olave has the chance to be the number one on his team and you know if things go right for olave he could he can be to me like that top 10 top 8 uh overall finish at the wide receiver position so i'm going to go with christopher olave so mcafree stevenson olave after chris olave breeze hall finally off the board at 302. Mark Andrews off the board at 303. Dear.
Starting point is 00:24:46 You were not even close. You were not even going to get. There was no way you're getting him. I get him. There's no way he's getting through Owl. I get him at the end. That was that. I knew Owl would take him away from me,
Starting point is 00:24:55 but I get him at the end of the third all the time lately. With drafts with us and real people? Well, with real people, yeah. But you're talking best ball. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't think you're going to be able to survive that against us. If Kyle didn't take him, I would have taken him.
Starting point is 00:25:10 If I didn't take him, Borland would have taken him. Okay. The Borgogan, Jamar Chase, Garrett Wilson, time for a running back. He went Najee Harris at 304, putting me back on the clock. You know, this is where it's funny. Like Jalen Waddell didn't get drafted ahead of Chris Olave, didn't get drafted ahead of Amon Ross St. Brown, Garrett Wilson. These are all players that he finished well ahead of last year.
Starting point is 00:25:43 But I have Tyree Kill. Yeah, take him. So I don't think I have that ability to do it. And then obviously Mark Andrews would have been an option for me. Oh, he already took a quarterback. I was like, if you take those two wide receivers and just wait forever and take two, I don't know, man. I would be drafting the Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:26:02 You're going to be volatile, but that would be terrifying to look at. I'm going to take the starting running back for a division-winning team, Travis Etienne here. Tyreek Hill, Josh Allen, Travis Etienne, the first three rounds. Let's go. Jalen Waddell falling to me. I'm thrilled to see that. Sorry, Al Borland breaking in.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Wait your turn, sir. It was, and it's done. And so, yeah, Austin Eckler, Derek Henry, Jalen Waddell for producer Borland. T. Higgins went in between ETN and Jalen Waddell. Jason would have snatched up Jalen Waddell, I'm sure. For sure. At 3-0-8, which is why I've enjoyed having you guys back-to-back. Jason, what are you thinking about
Starting point is 00:26:46 let's take a moment yeah well because bijan and josh jacobs are on your roster and there are there are running backs that i think are interesting here there but you you know you go 5 rb like i did last night it's it's super tempting there are far more interesting wide receivers here than running backs to me. I mean, right now, if you look at ADP, Kenneth Walker, Jameer Gibbs, Aaron Jones, those are fine running backs, but they don't excite me the way that a Devontae Smith or a DK Metcalf do, and those are the two players that I'm looking between. In the third round, I am absolutely open to the three-pack of the top-tier quarterbacks if they fall to the third. I'm also open to Mark Andrews. Those four players, I am willing to, from the onesie positions,
Starting point is 00:27:33 if I'm in the middle of the third, the back of the third, I'm always checking, are those four players there? If not, I'm running back or wide receiver. Considering I started running back, running back, and I feel good there, I'm going to take my highest-ranked wide receiver. He is only one spot higher than DK Metcalf, but I do believe Devonta Smith is a world-beating wide receiver. Obviously, I just talked up T. Higgins. Wait, was T. Higgins still on the board? Well, you talked up T. Higgins because you said he was the highest of your triple.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Sorry. Yes, but he was not available. I'm saying on last episode I talked up DK Metcalf, the positive touchdown regression that I do think will come for him. He moved up pretty significantly in my rankings, but I'm going to stick with him and go with Smith. All right, Brooks, back on the clock. Kenneth Walker went right after Devontae Smith.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Was that a disappointment to you, Brooks? Would you have taken Kenneth Walker here? I don't think so. Nick Chubb, A.J. Brown on the roster. All right. It's risky, but I'm going to throw Mixon in here in the third round.
Starting point is 00:28:36 No, I think that that's... That's worth it. And then Amari Cooper, Debo, round out the third round. Aaron Jones goes at the top of the fourth. That was a player I was, like, sometimes you see names on the ADP board that you say maybe everyone's going to ignore a little while. I dreamed a dream.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I did dream a dream. The tires go by. But Aaron Jones gone. Joe Burrow at 402. We talked about his ADP on the Thursday show being 311 right now. Yeah, man. It's pretty rich. So 402 is more reasonable of a selection.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Brooks, back on the clock. I wasn't planning on this, but we're going to add. Brooks' picks are my favorite. Lamar Jackson in the fourth round. You turned. Oh, he wasn't getting past me. That was my plan. I had two players I wanted.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Thankfully, one of them still came back to me. It should be pretty obvious. It's DK Metcalf. I was between DK Metcalf and Devonta Smith, but I wanted either Metcalf or Lamar Jackson. I think Lamar Jackson in the third round, or I'm sorry, the fourth round. You could take Lamar Jackson in the third round, or in the, I'm sorry, the fourth round. When you can take Lamar Jackson in the fourth, he's the only guy that I see that can be in that tier of the Hurts, Allen, Mahomes. And they're going in the second right now.
Starting point is 00:29:52 So I like the value there. Lamar Jackson, Jameer Gibbs went, and then Jason went with DK Metcalf. Producer Borland didn't break into the show, so I don't know how excited he could be with this pick, but he needs to add to Eckler, Henry, and Waddle. Yeah, nothing real exciting here, but I am going to take Keenan Allen and make sure he stays away from Kyle's
Starting point is 00:30:14 team. Yeah, I mean that's always advisable unless his dependency on Keenan Allen is his very undoing, which has been the case in recent years. Justin Fields at 407. The bigger reason I was upset about Lamar going is I knew that Fields would not make it to me then.
Starting point is 00:30:34 So right now, how many of us have a quarterback? Just two of us? Brooks and myself in terms of the six of us? Six total quarterbacks taken, but two of us. Okay. Justin Fields off the board at 407. As someone with a quarterback, very happy to see three go in the fourth round. Coming back to my roster, Tyreek Hill, Josh Allen, Travis Etienne,
Starting point is 00:31:00 I'm looking at the running back room, and it's between a few names. J.K. Dobbins on that Baltimore offense that Jason thinks I hate. Miles Sanders. Oh, that's just what your words were. No, that was not my words. Your words were, don't draft the Baltimore Raven. They suck. They're going to be the worst team in the division.
Starting point is 00:31:23 That's just how I remember it. That's like a paraphrase. We can check the tape, but it the worst team in the division. That's just how I remember it. That's like a paraphrase. We can check the tape, but it was something pretty close to that. Miles Sanders is in strong consideration there too. I think when you look at those two players, a bet on Dobbins is a bet
Starting point is 00:31:38 on the offense and the team and them being a huge success there in Baltimore. Talked about their win total yesterday at 9.5. Tough division. Doesn't catch passes. So I'm actually going to go with the probably less popular for the listening audience pick,
Starting point is 00:31:56 but the player that I think will be more fantasy productive in Miles Sanders. I'm a big fan of what his opportunity is. I've been very optimistic about the reports on Bryce Young of late. I don't know if you guys have been following that, but his progression is significant in the opportunities he's had to practice. I think that this team is going to surprise. It's the opposite of the division that J.K. Dobbins and the Ravens play in.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I think it's a wide-open division with Carolina, New Orleans, Atlanta, and Tampa. So I think Miles Sanders and the Panthers may surprise, and that's where I'm going to go there, getting my two running backs back-to-back. The Borgo get back on the clock. By the way, was the Miles Sanders pick a surprise? I don't think it was a huge surprise to me.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I see a pathway for Miles Sanders to easily be a top 15 running back. And if touchdowns come his way, that's the real question, because I think the passing volume and the volume on the ground will be there for him. He should absolutely be a top 20 running back for sure. If touchdowns happen and the offense is better, then he could be a top eight running back Kyle you were about to say something you went with JK Dobbins JK to Sanders and Dobbins
Starting point is 00:33:13 those are the last two kind of in our tears so I was going to take whoever's left over are you happy I didn't take Dobbins or indifferent I mean I love the ravens this year todd monken for life yeah yeah the todd monken thing is um it's such an interesting deep dive really because his teams in tampa where he was responsible for play calling were not winning teams but he passed don't care he passed it a lot and then i mean you guys got to remember that the last time he was in the NFL, he was with the most hyped and most disappointing team that we've had in probably five or six years, which was everybody was on board, the Cleveland Browns and Baker and Landry and Beckham
Starting point is 00:33:58 and that high-flying offense in 2019. And that was where Todd Monken was the offensive coordinator. Mind you, Freddie Kitchens was calling plays. But his influence was on that roster, and they were, again, a losing team. He's not been on a lot of winning teams. He's just been an offensive influence that drives the passing game forward in terms of total volume. I did not pick them to win the division because of Todd Monk,
Starting point is 00:34:22 and I picked them to win my fantasy heart. Yeah, I mean. I think they're going to have a lot more turnovers this year. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting because obviously I don't know how much you want to hold him responsible for Cleveland, but that was the, your bold prediction show was the demise of the most hyped fantasy Browns that year, which is what happened. I mean, these were all players, high draft capital players in Cleveland. They were disasters. But it's going to be a fun ride.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I do not hate the Ravens. I believe that the Ravens are going to be in the thick of it in that division. John Harbaugh is a great coach. Lamar Jackson is a great quarterback. I simply am the only person willing to say that it's not a guarantee that they're going to dominate. Yeah, Al, we're going to need you to cut that clip out and take the word not out.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I really want that soundbite and put it on my board so I can have Andy say I do hate the Ravens whenever I want. Well, Kyle and Betts, I think mostly on the basis of the amount of bets that they've placed so far, were very oppositional to my thoughts on Baltimore. bets i think mostly on the basis of the amount of bets that they've placed so far we're very oppositional to my thoughts on baltimore uh after dobbins went deandre hopkins who's just kind of sitting in the ether right now as a nothing but deserves like like his pace last year was 1400 yard pace so if he lands in the right spot this this is a relevant player. Is there a right spot, though? Yeah, there is definitely a right spot.
Starting point is 00:35:47 That would be the dark horse candidate that I would not rule out yet, the Kansas City Chiefs. I think that they are still in play. And if he were to go there with kind of a wide-open depth chart, his talent, Mahomes, I think he would absolutely be a fantasy dominator. I don't think he's – I think Tennessee's an option for him too. I mean, this was an offense where if he's – I mean, he would usurp Traylon Burks instantaneously.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yes, I agree with that. And that offense runs – it's predicated on that first read play-action pass. We saw A.J. Brown dominate there. I don't think that's out of question. Even with the Patriots, you might not believe in Mac Jones but he would be the one there so yeah like Kobe Myers was relevant right now I took him uh in in an underdog draft where he was the wide receiver relevance is not a fourth round pick yeah he was the wide receiver 24 taken I don't know where he is on this one let me qualify um I don't know which wide receiver number he is right now but i mean it i can't see him
Starting point is 00:36:45 finishing the season lower than a wide receiver 24 t.j hawkins and mike unfortunately went off the board right ahead of you drats you have two picks again mcafree stevenson and olave and this is where like when you're drafting on the edge you i mean you know i'm in the turn not living on the edge i guess i'll be living on the edge, I mean, the turn, not living on the edge. I guess I'll be living on the edge a little bit with this. You have to make some leaps here because you've got to wait, what, 22 picks before you get the pick again? Exactly. And to me, the top ADP, at least, guys, we're in a much larger bucket. And I want to take a shot here on a difference making duo
Starting point is 00:37:28 it's just what order and whatever I'm going to respect the order here so I'm I'm going to take Justin Herbert and then a wide receiver who we we aren't talking about him a lot because he's so hot and cold and yet he still is in he's my wide wide receiver 16. He's in my top 20 right now. I'm going to take the stack. I'm going to take Michael Williams. I was, I had a little bit of dreams that Keenan Allen would fall for that stack, but Justin Herbert and Mike Williams,
Starting point is 00:37:55 I'll take it. Interesting. Justin Herbert, Mike Williams, and then Drake London and Calvin Ridley go off the board. So a run of three wide receivers before the Borgogon can draft his next Raven. Who are you thinking about? I'm going to take Jason's favorite player.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Oh, Terry McLaurin. All right. Terry McLaurin. So that means Kyle's team is Jamar Chase, Garrett Wilson, Terry McLaurin. I certainly like McLaurin when he fits in as a wide receiver three yeah that's that's great um I had the dream of him getting to me and having the Devonta Smith DK Metcalf Terry McLaurin uh combination so I'm back on the clock Tyreek Hill Josh Allen Travis ETN Miles Sanders uh four wide receivers off the board at the top of this round. There are names that I'm interested in at wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I just, it's tough because I have a long wait after this pick. I like Brandon Ayuk. I like Hollywood. I shouldn't say more names out loud like that. You hate, but you must. But I think I like the potential of a couple of running backs a little bit more. So I'm going to actually go, I guess, mid-round high tee. I'm going to take Cam Akers here in the fifth round
Starting point is 00:39:09 and put ETN Sanders and Akers on the team. I always want depth at running back. He was supposed to get to me. Sorry. Yeah, well, I don't think you are. If I'm being honest, I don't believe that you are sorry. He really just said words. I think that was a hollow apology.
Starting point is 00:39:28 There was no emotion or feeling in that. If you're're really sorry you'll trade him to me straight up yeah well for my just straight up uh for nothing you just trade him to me all right uh i went with cam akers so three running backs in a row we've got christian watson at 506 and then the borgoin is not on the clock. It's producer Borland. It is. And I was considering Christian Watson there. Of course you were. It was finally time for your pack. It was.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I was trying to get one on my team, but I couldn't do that. So I am going to take Marquise Hollywood Brown. So three wideouts in a row for Al. And Jason's back on the clock. Yeah, this is a little bit unfortunate um is this your first year you're squirming for the first time because you've got a nice time squirming yeah no honestly i haven't really liked the uh the seven eight spot in drafts but owl's team and my own the first four rounds i feel like fell really nicely for us what I find funny about your team which is great Robinson Jacobs Devante Smith and Metcalf is that I would reversed both of your positions like I'd rather draft Jacobs over Bijan and I'd rather draft Metcalf over Devante Smith and yet you
Starting point is 00:40:37 got them both with the reverse order well when you are at the 108 or 109 the order in which you pick guys really does matter. Sometimes you want to play the ADP game a little bit more, knowing like, well, I might like that player better, but he's lower in the default system ranking. So I'm going to take the guy that's, you know, higher ADP wise and hopefully get both players. It's happened a couple of times. I'm looking at two players that I want and I'm going to play that game right now. I'm going to take the one that has the higher ADP because hopefully I get the other player, which I will not name because Brooks.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I was hoping to bait you into that. Brooks, cover your ears and then tell us, Jason. I'm going to actually, since I didn't get one of the quarterbacks that I like, to me it's the top three and then Lamar Jackson and then Justin Herbert. I want one of them. I didn't get one of the quarterbacks that I like. To me, it's the top three, and then Lamar Jackson, and then Justin Herbert. I want one of them. I didn't get one, so I'm punting. Fields is not in that group for you? He's not for where he's drafted.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Absolutely, I would like Fields in general, but as far as the value, I think the value of Herbert usually in the fifth, Lamar in the fourth, I like those guys. I'm going to take the gamble that I've taken a couple times this offseason. I'm grabbing Kyle Pitts at tight end. I'm going to still go onesie, but I'm looking for a difference maker. Spicy, spicy pick. Kyle Pitts and George Kittle back-to-back.
Starting point is 00:41:57 So at least in that sense, you're at the front of the fifth-round tight end selections. Brooks, were you thinking about either of those guys? I know you're a George Kittle fan. I am a fan, but with already taken Lamar Jackson, I didn't want to grab a tight end this early. And the player I was hoping fell to me. I'm taking a chance on Mike's guy, Alexander Madison.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Very nice. Chubb, Mixon, Madison, your three running backs. You're going to enjoy that. AJ Browns, Lamar Jackson. After Madison was Pierce, Trevor Lawrence, DJ Moore, and Tyler Lockett. Lawrence was somebody that I would have had my eyes on. Jason, like, he'll tell you who's going to punt the position, but then if Lawrence fell back to him in the six, he'd be back in.
Starting point is 00:42:45 But Lockett's off the board. I don't know if that groans from you two. I enjoyed that Jason had Metcalf, so he couldn't take Lockett. Or probably felt like he could. No, it did feel like that. Actually, the two players I wanted was Pitts and Lockett. And then after I took Pitts, I remembered I had Metcalf. I was like, well, I should find another player to draft. Oh, Lockett was the guy, but happy he's taken.
Starting point is 00:43:07 All right, Brooks. One more pick. All right, guys. With just AJ Brown at wide out so far. I definitely think I need to go wide out here. There's a few guys I like, but there's one that's standing out. I'm going back, guys. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Where are you going? You're going to the city. Oh, there's the Brooks one. Oh, yeah. Where are you going? Are you going to the city? Oh, there's the Brooks one. Oh, yeah. Wait a minute. When was that made? When was that visual drop made? This morning.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Oh, you made it this morning, but you didn't know you were going to draft him? I maybe did a couple mocks and had an idea. Oh, you were prepped. Honestly, that is. And there's pizzas flying around? Oh, yeah. On YouTube, that was outstanding. I was prepped. Honestly, that is. And there's pizzas flying around. Oh, yeah. On YouTube, that was outstanding. I am so impressed.
Starting point is 00:43:49 What is happening? Because I feel like that says everything about why mock drafting matters. Because he ran mocks this morning knowing we were going to. He ran the calculations. He knew we were going to do this draft. And he knew that Michael Pittman might be sitting there enough to build an animation. And it came true. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:44:06 How many animations do you have right now? He's like, well, I built 27 possibilities. For different players. Wow. So Michael Pittman as a wide receiver too. How does that – you're nodding. I mean, you built the city. I feel good enough about it.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Okay. Yeah. Okay. He's a great player. Well, Jason's back on the clock after Pittman went Jerry Judy. So we've got, you know, a lot of wideouts have gone in the fifth and sixth round. We're up to 10 in that stretch. Jason just went with a onesie in Kyle Pitts.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Two running backs, two wide receivers. Yeah. Considering that I've got Bijon and Josh Jacobs, I feel more confident there. I would prefer to go wide receiver. However, when I look at the players available and the tiers that are left, there are several wide receivers that I see as really good quality wide receivers that are all in about the same tier that might make it back to me.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Now, this is my long term. I'm not going to assume any of them do, but I will play the gamble and the risk because at running back, there's one running back that I see as significantly better. Health will be an issue. I don't think the fact that the team is putrid will be. He was unbelievable down the stretch last year for a putrid Arizona Cardinals, and that's James Conner. He's going to be the guy. You look at the depth chart, there's just no one else there. He catches passes.
Starting point is 00:45:31 He gets the goal line work. He'll volume his way when he's on the field to being very fantasy relevant. I think he would have been a perfectly fine pick where I took Cam Akers. So for you to get him almost a full round later, I think, is a value. You have such guaranteed production at wide receiver that I don't think you felt like you had to go there. So, James Conner, like what you said, we've had a few mocks. We're drafting from seven or eight, and it feels like constant sniping, constantly not in the position you want to be.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Right now, the seven and eight look pretty nice, and Producer Borland is certainly capable of screwing that up at this point. You're on the clock. Yeah, and I'm a little tilted because I was going James Conner there. Oh, back-to-back. Hollywood and Conner on that Cardinal offense. All the Arizona. Yeah, but I am going to take Dallas Goddard.
Starting point is 00:46:21 All right, Dallas Goddard, the first potential tilt pick of the draft. I love Dallas Goddard. All right, Dallas Goddard, the first potential tilt pick of the draft. I love Dallas Goddard. I think he has tremendous potential. I'm also really excited about what has occurred because I was strongly considering a player that I think I view in the lens that Mike has high expectations for Ramondre Stevenson and Chris Olave this year. We certainly agree on Olave.
Starting point is 00:46:46 But I almost took Brandon Ayuk with my last pick in the fifth round. I believe he will be the wide receiver one for the NFL's top two, three team in the 49ers. And so I get the opportunity to have waited, get Cam Akers and come back with Brandon Ayuk at 6-0-8, which I feel very good about. Was the 2 and the 3, did you throw them both out? Because if Trey Lance is the quarterback
Starting point is 00:47:16 they're at 2 and then if Purdy's there, they're 3? I don't think that was my thinking. Okay, I'm just trying to read between the lines. We need to get a psychiatrist in here and try to figure that out, but historically speaking, I have not considered Trey Lance very much. Neither have the 49ers. That's a good one. There you go.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah, yeah. So I went with Iyuk to go with Tyreek Hill, Allen, Etienne, Sanders, and Akers. And then the Borgogans snuck in with his pick, which I'm going to bring something up with the selection he made. He went with David Montgomery at 609. So this is an opportunity for me to tell you about essentially a trade that I got today in Dynasty. You received but have not accepted or rejected?
Starting point is 00:47:59 I did reject. So I'm sorry to break that suspense. Wait, no, no, no. I haven't done it. Okay, let's hear it. But I was offered Iuke and David Montgomery for Josh Jacobs in Dynasty. Which I... Knowing you, I'm surprised you didn't take it.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I declined that trade. Interesting. Because I have Josh Jacobs locked in as that top three guy. But I could live to regret it. If there's problems with the holdout or Brandon Iuke has the year that I'm hoping for, I did turn it down. But Montgomery goes at 6-0-9. And then ironic run of running backs.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Those three guys together have been very involved. David Montgomery, then DeAndre Swift, then Jamal Williams. All these guys that are kind of taking each other's jobs. That would be Javante. Oh, that was Javante Williams. That was Javante Williams. Never mind. It was Jay Williams.
Starting point is 00:48:46 You had Lions on your mind because Montgomery, you know, a Lion. And Swift was a Lion. Yeah, and Jamal was. But this was Javante. Javante at 6'11". I'm terrified to draft him in any draft, but Mike, you're back on the clock. Two picks.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I am. Have the Herbert Williams stack. My team is very balanced. Two running backs, two wide receivers, and I took the quarterback. I am feeling the sting of the quarterback right now because there's not players that I love. But I'm going to take – I mean, he's just, I think he's still good. Maybe he is declining and his quarterback play is not going to be the best,
Starting point is 00:49:35 but Chris Godwin is one of a few wide receivers left who should see, I don't know, a good 23% to 25% minimum of the target share for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And then for the next pick, the players who I'm looking at, the bounce back season for Deontay Johnson, calling the shot on the breakout for Traylon Burks. Jahan Dotson is also in consideration for me. And I'm looking at the running backs. Maybe I should not have picked so quickly
Starting point is 00:50:02 because the top running back I'd be interested in would have been Rashad White. I don't really want to go back-to-back Tampa Bay Buccaneers here, so maybe I don't like the Chris Godwin pick as much. Interesting. Because that has removed Rashad White from – It doesn't have to. You would take Rashad White over Antonio Gibson? I would, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Some Rashad White discussions and buzz going on right now. And, yeah. Jason doesn't buy it. I don't overly love Rashad White, but maybe the team was just so bad you throw it in the garbage because Leonard Fournette was terrible. Offensive line was beat up. The offensive line was very, very beat up.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Do we just give them a pass on that, and then Rashad White ends up being a great pick this year uh but I'll I'll speed it up here I will take um I'm gonna I'm gonna take the volume the sure volume of Deontay Johnson all right then uh Dak went next Rashad White went at number three Jason pounded the table I think that was a Deontay pounding yeah he had the dreams of Deontay and then uh Kyle you were on the clock just to run your team back. Jamar Chase, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin at wide receiver. You went Najee, J.K. Dobbins, and then Montgomery in the last round. There are some pretty big names out there right now.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Who are you going with? I'm going to go with Mike Evans. He's kind of the last wide receiver one that I view here as, like, he's locked in for his team. Yeah, that would have been my selection. So I'd said nice things about your team thinking that would like maybe maybe screw it up. Maybe it's screw.
Starting point is 00:51:33 He'd screw the pickup. I'm back on the clock. It's between two players for me. It's Darren Waller tight end for the New York Giants who I think is going. I am very much rising on his potential this year. And the other option would be a guy I really love in Jahan Dotson, but I'm not going to kind of – I don't think I'm going to force the issue here with Jahan Dotson. I'm going to take Darren Waller for the first time this offseason.
Starting point is 00:51:57 All right. Christian, no reaction to Darren Waller whatsoever? With just six people here, I'm going to just keep talking. I was mid-swallow. I could not react. I think it's a strong... Yeah, there we go. It's another option.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I'm with you that he should be. I think it carries a lot of risk going here in the seventh with the other players you could have picked, but he could certainly regain form and be a top five guy. Producer Borland. I am looking at quarterback and not sold on anybody there. So I'm going to move on and I'm going to take Antonio Gibson. Could have built the stack with Jalen Waddell, gone Tua in the seventh round. Antonio Gibson, we'll see what it's like in Washington.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Looking at the draft board, Jason does not have a quarterback, but then 9 through 12 they do. So not likely that Tua gets taken between his next pick. That was definitely something that I was looking at. When I look at the quarterback position, Tua is the definitely something that I was looking at yep when I look at the quarterback position Tua is the last guy that I really like I would be happy to leave the draft with Tua um I'm out on be happy to leave it with Watson I'm out on Voldemort I get that like if you want to be in on Deshaun Watson he could have an unbelievable season could be an easily could be a
Starting point is 00:53:21 better pick than Tua I just that's just not I mean, Deshaun Watson's a projection, and I project it going poorly. So Tua's the player I want. I am going to play the ADP game and assume that in the seventh round. I was wrong, Jeremy. I'm sorry. And assume that in the seventh round, a team is not going to double up on quarterback that early.
Starting point is 00:53:41 So I'm going to look at wide receiver. I've only got Devonta Smith and DK Metcalf on my team. I played that gamble last time and took James Connor. It worked out well because I had about four wide receivers I wanted. Deontay Johnson was the only one that went. Jordan Addison, Traylon Burks, and Jahan Dotson still available. I'm going to go by my rankings and I'm going to take Traylon Burks, who I think is going to have a phenomenal season so long as DeAndre Hopkins doesn't show up. His offseason camp reports have been great, showed up in shape, is playing faster, and I think he's super talented.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Pickens off the board. Brooks, you are back on the clock. I don't know if you have graphics prepared for this pick, but who are you taking? No, I don't, but very happy that Dotson fell to this spot. That's my pick. All right, Jahan Dotson stealing him from me. I had graphics prepared.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Thanks. Alvin Kamara, James Cook off the board at 7-12. That could be a steal. Brandon Cook, so the Cook and the Cooks both going to Team 12. Isaiah Pacheco off the board at 8-02. Too many Cooks in the kitchen. You get to do the team name. Yeah, that's true. Too many Cooks the team name. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Too many cooks in the kitchen. Yeah, that's worth it. I mean, if you get Dalvin in there. Wow, that would be too many cooks in the kitchen, though. All right, Brooksie. This one's definitely a reach, but Kyle knows I love this guy, and if he hits, I'm going to be upset if he's on a different roster. I'm drafting Khalil Herbert here.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah, he was at the top of my queue. That is definitely a Brooks pick. Because Brooks knows running backs. I will say this. What is going on here? Madison, Pittman, Herbert? When Khalil Herbert's name comes up, I just associate him with Brooks. That's my viewpoint.
Starting point is 00:55:26 So here I am. Tua did get back to me. The fact that Jordan Addison was drafted right before me by Team 9 makes this easy because had Addison gotten back, I might have punted quarterback further, gone with a lower tier guy for the chance at the breakout because I do think Addison is super talented and his situation is delightful but I will take Tua so now I've got my quarterback and tight end out of the way I've got three running backs and three wide receivers I'm loving my roster all right uh after Tua we have a disappointed Al Borland yeah I played the ADP game I lost uh but it did give me a chance to get a Packer on my roster. Oh, Team 6.
Starting point is 00:56:12 So, A.J. Dillon to Al Borland finally has his Packer. Evan Ingram off the board at 8-0-7. I am back on the clock. I'd like to improve the depth of my wide receiver room. Power at the top in Tyreek, breakout candidate in Brandon Ayuk. But I am looking to find hopefully a little bit of maybe a combination
Starting point is 00:56:33 of consistency and upside with this selection. Good areas, Tony on the board, Quentin Johnson on the board. But I'm going to go with the rule of talent emerges. And I'm going to go Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. First wide receiver off the board in Seattle. Yeah. I have no problem. I love the pick of taking Smith and Jigba.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I just don't like when it's in front of Tyler Lockett. Yeah, Lockett went two and a half rounds ahead. Kyle just took Mike Evans back on the clock. I played the ADP game, and I waited, and I went for Deshaun Watson here. All right. Yeah, I love that pick. And when you look at the entire league minus one team has a quarterback, and you can get a guy that I think has certainly top five, six potential
Starting point is 00:57:21 with the last of those picks. Tremendous upside. Kadarius Toney went next. Gabe Davis and Mike, back-to-back selections here. You had been reacting to Evan Ingram off the board, which might have been one of your picks. It would have been, yeah. But you can't pick somebody else's player. I cannot do that.
Starting point is 00:57:39 So tight end is now – I mean, Friar Muth is interesting. You would have taken Evan Ingram ahead of Friar Muth? I would have, yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's super dumb. Wow. That's one counterpoint.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Okay. Yeah. All right. Did you see the explosive games from Evan Ingram last year? I saw both of them, yeah. They were two good weeks. Okay. That's his career.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Two good weeks is the name of his documentary. That's fine. I know you're an Ingram man. Yes. Through and through. I'm going to stack up some running backs here. It comes down to, because I only have two of them on my roster headed into the eighth round.
Starting point is 00:58:20 So the ones I'm looking at. But there are two of your top 24 running backs. They are. Top 50, top 40. Top three. Yeah. So Zach Charbonnet is in my short list here. And Rashad Penny, again, I just can't stop drafting him.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And then Samajay Pirine at this point. Oh, gosh, no. Samajay Pirine is. Charbonnet Pirine. Don't pick those guys. Samaj A.P. Ryan is at the top because I only have the two running backs, and I'm projecting that Javante will miss at least a month, and so that gives me, again, one of our – No, he'll be back, and he'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Just let him drop. One of my favorite tips for how do you play fantasy football is like break the season down look at like i'm going to take care of my first four weeks and if i get a running back for who gets to play for sean payton that i can get four weeks out to help me try and figure things out from there on i'll find someone off the waiver wire by then so samajay p ryan can help me cover because I only have the two running backs. So he is in. And then it's do I take who has Charbonnet.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Charbonnet has to deal with Kenneth Walker. Rashad Penny has to deal with the fact that he is Rashad Penny. And he has to deal with Swift on the team. I am my own worst enemy. Yes, he really is. I don't have Charbonnet. I haven't drafted him a single time, so let's do it. We're going to take Charbonnet.
Starting point is 00:59:50 He took both the targets, man. Both the targets. So that's funny because my cue, those were my top two targets. So all three of us were between Pirine and Charbonnet as the two players we wanted the most. Mike was on the clock twice, so he got both of them. Quentin Johnston, Michael Thomas go next. The Borgogon, you just had Deshaun Watson. Who's your next pick?
Starting point is 01:00:09 I want one of those running backs. Yeah, go ahead. I want one of the running backs, but I know that Friar Muth will not make it back to me if I don't take him here, so I'm going to select him here. All right, so quarterback tight end back-to-back there, and your team, you have freedom with the last two picks of the draft i am back on the clock and um you know i took darren waller and jackson
Starting point is 01:00:33 smith and jigba with the last two picks uh i think that there are some interesting names out there but i'm going to go with a player maybe 50% because I like the value and 50% because I want to potentially make Jason mad. You're getting TJ Maxxed right now. I don't think there's a player. There might be one player that could make me mad. Oh, what? You took A-Chain?
Starting point is 01:01:03 I mean, that wasn't even in the realm of possibility because you know where i like a chain i like him after etn sanders and acres when he's the fourth running back on a roster i didn't know you were so the opportunity in your ninth round pick so he was at the top of my queue of course he was but he wasn't the player that i was talking about because i just i've never seen you draft him yeah well this that was you know again yeah his explosive ability that offense I think it I think it could really really work I have two on my roster I would love to get a 60 yard screen pass from him to the house so uh great picking do you want to announce the pick that happened after Devon
Starting point is 01:01:42 A-chain correctly yes Javante Williams. Jamal Williams has finally been drafted by Team 6. Producer Borland, you are on the clock. I am, and I'm going to fill my vacant quarterback slot with a guy throwing the ball to Justin Jefferson. Kirk Cousins, probably the – did you see this documentary that just came out? The quarterback documentary on Netflix? Is that where they follow the three guys with – and I think mario it's mario to my homes and cousins but look we watch one of those things it's not like the other what is mario to doing in that he was a starting
Starting point is 01:02:15 quarterback last year they want they want and he's a top two pick they wanted to see can this guy rebuild this team and rebuild his career and we got to see it was it looks really interesting i haven't seen it yet but i mean the trailer just seeing all the behind the scenes work that these guys do um i don't know i i'm looking forward to but kirk cousins off the board um i'm not sure you couldn't have gotten him a round or two later yeah but this is the i get it this is the make sure. Yeah, I see teams double up on quarterbacks, and I didn't want to get stuck with Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Jason, you were on the clock. Devon, eight chains available. Oh, no, he's not. Mr. Packer is like, I would never draft Aaron Rodgers. Too soon. So the player that I thought you could draft that would upset me was Rashad Penny. I did want a running back.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I don't think there's a handful of running backs left out there that I see a pathway towards having a great fantasy season. Rashad Penny, I do see a pathway for that. He's freaking awesome. I love it. I love the pick. Well, yeah. I mean, you usually end up with Rashad Penny in these drafts, so I'll take him and allow the draft to continue to Brooks. Brooks, you're on the clock. I need a tight end, and I'm glad that Chig is there, grabbing Chig a conco. And then David Njoku goes next.
Starting point is 01:03:36 So both very good upside names that would make the tight endless Mike disappointed. Brian Robinson goes at 9-12, coming into the 10th round. Anthony Richardson off the board, which probably would have been cousins. Cortland Sutton at 10-02, probably the most ignored player in the history of fantasy this year.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I haven't heard a whisper about him. Tim Patrick coming back and Jerry Judy. Cortland Sutton's still going to probably start. If you believe that there's upside in a new head coach, it's not impossible that he's contributing. Brooks, back on the clock. And here I'm going to take a late-round shot on Zay Flowers
Starting point is 01:04:15 to go with Lamar Jackson. Jerk! You're a jerk and a dummy, dumb face. Over Bateman, huh? And then Bateman went next. Just because of the injury stuff he's dealing with. I think that's fair. Oh, man, that really stinks.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I'm looking for upside. You know, this is my wide receiver four. I'm looking for someone that can really propel themselves to a breakout. And most of the wide receivers that are available, you know, there's Jacoby Myers and Alan Lazard and players that are, look, they're going to. I think Myers is a little underrated too. I agree.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Especially in that offense with Jimmy Garoppolo. And if I was really desperate for a starting wide receiver, I think he's fine. But I'm looking for someone as my wide receiver four that has more explosive potential than Jacoby Myers has. I'm looking for someone like a rookie that could do something special. I'm going to draft a guy much further down in ADP
Starting point is 01:05:08 that neither one of you two believe in. I do believe in, certainly not to the level of – Don't tell me what I believe. I will tell you what you've said you believe in. I'm going to take Rasheed Rice, rookie wide receiver for – I stand corrected. Yes, thank you. You do know what I believe.
Starting point is 01:05:24 For the Kansas City Chiefs, I think he's a talented player. He's had a lot of buzz. I just want the chance to either cut a guy or see that he's special. You'll get that chance. One of those two. Al Borland. One more pick. Yeah, I think this
Starting point is 01:05:40 is a bit of a reach. I'm not sure what his ADP is, but I want him. I'm going to take romeo doves off the board i would have picked i would have taken him on the turn it's impossible to reach at your second to last pick that's not a reach the 10th round throw adp out go get the guys you want scroll down find your big explosive belief and then draft them yeah and i'm really thrilled for jason taking rashid rice because i get to take Sky Moore with the 10-0-8, and then Elijah Moore, Dalton Kincaid, and Jamison Williams off the board.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Mike, your final two picks. That is Jamal Williams. Jamison Williams. Did I say Jamal? No. Oh, okay. You just keep it. It's a really good bit.
Starting point is 01:06:22 It's because they're Jay Williams. The people were like, say it. So I did. Mike, close it out. You got to get a tight end. All right. So I am back to full balance. There's balance within the force.
Starting point is 01:06:35 So I'm going to take a tight end. And then I'm trying to figure out which position do I want to take the shot on. I guess I'll go with the tight end two for the Denver Broncos. So I'll take Greg Dulcich, just take some upside there. And then the – man, it's tough here with the last pick. There's a few names I want to call out. Kendra Miller, I don't think we've mentioned him enough, but a third- round selection by the
Starting point is 01:07:07 New Orleans Saints, which Kendra Miller, in my opinion, could have been drafted higher had he not been dealing with an injury in the draft process. But he got drafted by the Saints, and Alvin Kamara's situation, we don't know. And Alvin Kamara the the player I mean it looked like there was significant decline last year Jamal Williams they brought him in but I think that by the end of the year there is a path that Kendra Miller could end up being the the running back that you actually want from that team and so I really wanted to highlight him and then I'm going to take who I project to be the starting running back for the Miami Dolphins. I will take Jeff Wilson.
Starting point is 01:07:49 All right, Aaron Rodgers and Geno Smith go after Jeff Wilson. Kyle, final pick. Kendra Miller off the board. So, Kyle, did I talk you into him? I had him cued way before. Okay. Yeah, he was going to be my pick as well. Kendra Miller is a really good late-round sleeper.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I'm going to go back to back Chiefs. Two shots with my final two picks on the league's best offense. Jarrett McKinnon is the pick. If McKinnon had gone off the board, my pick would have been Kyler Murray. I have him cued.
Starting point is 01:08:21 It would have been a shot at a gamble at some... Wow. A gamble at a top five quarterback at that point and as a trade leverage pick with the last pick. Well, that's what it would have to be for you. For you, it would have been a possible starter. Exactly. You've got Josh Allen. I don't usually draft players to trade,
Starting point is 01:08:39 but Tua might not be good. And Kyler could be their week one, so he is in consideration for me. All right, Al Borland. Raheem Mostert. So we've seen... All three of them got drafted. Tua might not be good, and Kyler could be their week one, so he is in consideration for me. All right, Al Borland. Raheem Mostert, so we've seen all three of them got drafted this time. Jason, your final pick. My final pick, I'm going to actually take Kyler. Everything we just said, Tua, maybe he's great, maybe he's not.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Kyler could be ready week one. I'll take that pair of quarterbacks. That was my idea, not yours. You didn't have that idea. It was mine. No, it was Mike's. No, you can do my idea. Mike, good job, Mike.
Starting point is 01:09:12 What did I do? Just say thank you. Thanks, everybody. You're welcome. All right, Brooks, final pick of our group here. Damian Harris went off the board at 11-09. I like that. Worth a shot.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Who's your final selection? I'll take Jalen Warren here. All right, Jalen Warren off the board, and that is going to do it. Woo! How do you feel about your teams? I'll read your team, and then you give me a couple of words. This will give you time to think, producers, on how you feel about it. The Borgogon has Jamar Chase, Garrett Wilson, Terry McLaurin,
Starting point is 01:09:48 Mike Evans, and Elijah Moore at wide receiver. Najee, Dobbins, Montgomery, and Kendra Miller at running back with Watson and Firemuth at the onesie positions. Kyle, how would you rate your draft? I'd say balanced, and then I have those two young guns that I can win a week with. How would you grade your draft? Good question. I'll put it in the analyzer, but I'll say A-.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Okay. All right. Very self-assured. How would you grade his draft? B+. Very good draft. Very good team. I'll go C+. Very possible you could have running back question marks
Starting point is 01:10:33 if they don't deliver on promise. But, I mean. You got a strong three to start with before you hit the waiver wire. Okay. That's your opinion. Dobbins is going to be great. Okay, that's your opinion. Dobbins is going to be great. Okay, that's your opinion. All right, we're going to producer Borland,
Starting point is 01:10:51 who has Eckler, Henry, Gibson, Dillon, Mostert at running back, Waddle, Keenan, Hollywood, and Dobbs at wide receiver with Goddard and Cousins. How do you feel about your team, Al? I would say pleasantly surprised. Okay. I was not happy to draw the seventh spot but i i think drafting from there i'm really happy with the team i got and you would grade your team a b plus you should talk to you should send a uh edible arrangement to team six over there i thought it was a johnny taylor super strong start yeah very strong start. Yeah, very strong start. So about a C-plus.
Starting point is 01:11:26 All right. And then, Brooks, you have Nick Chubb, Joe Mixon, Alexander Madison, Khalil Herbert, and Jalen Warren at running back. A.J. Brown, and then a little bit of a wait before you built the city with Michael Pittman, stole Jahan Dotson, and added Zay Flowers at a value in the 10th round. Chigga Conquo, got to love it. And then Lamar Jackson in the fourth. How about you?
Starting point is 01:11:47 How do you feel about your squad? Yeah, I really dig that. With taking the quarterback pretty early, I usually don't do that. But I think Pittman and Dotson in the 6th and 7th saved my wide receiver 2 position. And I'm guessing about a B+. Yeah, B+. And Jason? A bit of a C+.
Starting point is 01:12:04 All right. All right. All right. We are down to our three teams. Mike has McCaffrey, Stevenson, and a long wait before grabbing P. Ryan, Charbonnet, and Wilson. Pretty good job grabbing some relevant running backs that late after you had those first two. Olave, Mike Williams, Chris Godwin, Deontay Johnson at wide receiver with
Starting point is 01:12:22 Herbert and Dulcich. You know, being at the turn, you had to kind of take Herbert and Williams maybe a little ahead of ADP. Didn't have a choice. You weren't going to get them if you didn't. So how do you feel about your squad? I feel risky. I think that it comes down to is Justin Herbert,
Starting point is 01:12:38 does he bounce back to being a top five type of a quarterback? If he doesn't, then I will be scrambling because Mike Williams would also suffer a little bit as well. Yeah, there's a world where Lawrence and Watson and Tua outperform Herbert if he doesn't go right. Yes, it's possible. And then that's an overinvestment, but probably about a B-plus on yours. Yeah, I'll give myself about a B.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Jason has Bijon and Jacobs to go with Connor and Rashad Penny. Devontae Smith, DK Metcalf, Traylon Burks, and Rashi Rice, and then Kyle Pitts, Tua, and Kyler. Any final thoughts? No, I think the top is really secure and safe, and then the back end is very risky. Secure the top. Yeah, I mean, I actually like Mike's team quite a bit. I like my team quite a bit, and I think we're similar in the sense that
Starting point is 01:13:28 I think that the first five or six players are really locked in solid options. All right. Final team here. I have Tyreek Hill, Brandon Ayuk, Jackson Smith and Jigba, and Sky Moore at wide receiver. And then I have Etienne Sanders, Cam Akers, Devon A. Chain, and Jared McKinnon at running back. Josh Allen and Darren Waller as my onesies.
Starting point is 01:13:55 I can feel the thinness of the wide receiver room that comes from spinning two top seven picks on Allen and Waller, but certainly have the star power on this roster. And hopefully, Miles Sanders or Akers, doesn't have to be power on this roster. And hopefully Miles Sanders or Akers, doesn't have to be both with this roster, can emerge as a big-time talent. I'm in the middle on this squad. I don't know if you guys have thoughts on it before we close out, but fairly happy.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Win a different route with Allen in the second. Yeah, you always pay a price. You always feel it. You always feel it. always feel it it comes down to is josh allen like those three quarterbacks will they be that much better than the rest of the pack of the quarterback historically the trend says that they won't but those are special players who certainly could and they have those specific names have for a couple of years yeah it is it is really hard to see them not repeating what they did last year and i'm not saying that it's very easy to like
Starting point is 01:14:53 historically say it won't happen it's just difficult like emotionally like to think you just always presume whatever happened last year is going to happen again and that's something you got to be a little careful of yeah i mean last year i took the shot on herbert in our league of record and it was a bad shot and it cost me the season in a lot of ways because he had a disappointing year despite throwing for that many yards and that many attempts and it it hurt um making the gamble so when you take those shots on i mean there's a lot of gamble quarterback names. I mean, Lawrence, Jackson, Fields, Herbert, Watson, Tua. All those guys are like, maybe. Maybe it's a top five year.
Starting point is 01:15:34 But they can't all be that. They can't all do it. I mean, there's going to be a hierarchy there. So, all right, we did it. We got through. You got a little extended edition of the Fantasy Footballers here on Saturday. Hopefully you enjoyed the draft. We'd love to hear your thoughts, whether on Twitter at the FFBallers or in the comments on YouTube. And we'll be back with more episodes of the show getting into the divisional breakdowns next week.
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