Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - NFC East Breakdown + Late Round Picks - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/23

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

Fantasy Football show for July 23, 2026. Eagles, Cowboys, Commanders, Giants! Will Jayden Daniels bounce back? Will Jaxson Dart and Cam Skattebo be fantasy football breakouts? Full preview of the NFC ...East division! Offseason changes for each team, plus the best and worst picks in 2026 fantasy football drafts! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. 2026 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT is available now at UltimateDraftKit.com Get MEGALASHOW tickets at BallersLive.com (00:00) Intro (03:35) - Quick Question - Strength of Schedule (05:55) NFL News (08:50) NFC East breakdown (10:40) Philadelphia Eagles (28:50) Dallas Cowboys (40:05) Washington Commanders (50:45) New York Giants Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:01:52 For now. We'll keep an eye on them. You say he may fly the roost. You never know. You never know. We have an NFC East breakdown episode. Eagles, Cowboys, Commanders, Giants on today's episode. And I believe one more divisional breakdown show after this one? Correct. Should be.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Going over. to the West. Yeah. The West only has three teams this year. Does you know that? I did know that, yeah. As a Cardinals fan, I am well aware. So that'll be the Saturday episode,
Starting point is 00:02:22 and then we'll be through all the divisions. If you missed any of them, we're kind of breaking down the changes for the teams, addition, subtractions, head coaching, offenses, expectations, players that are kind of, you know, not the obvious draft picks, but the more debatable,
Starting point is 00:02:38 upside, downside situations. So we'll get into the NFCE East today. You can pick up the Ultimate Draft Kit at Ultimate DraftKit.com or better yet. You can and you should. Go to join thefoot.com. Become an ultimate footclan supporter of the podcast. And you will get everything, the UDK, the in-season tools, the lineup optimizer in the season, everything we have to offer. But what if we make new stuff?
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Starting point is 00:03:19 a quick question of the day I don't think we're going to do one today oh no we do have one hey ballers how much do you guys focus on strength of schedule when drafting Tom and Ohio wants to know so I mean in these divisional breakdowns if you're paying attention we always talk about the opening schedule
Starting point is 00:03:37 for that team because that That can matter. There's players that you don't, you know, I don't give a crap what the schedule is. I don't care how hard you say it is. Every format I can say this is the worst schedule imaginable, and there's still fantasy players that you will draft regardless. But there's somewhere. You're not moving off of Josh Allen because, oh, no, it's a tough defense.
Starting point is 00:03:57 But it's, there's guys where it can be a tiebreaker. Sometimes you need, you have a roster construction where you know in this round, like, oh, I got to get a player that I know I'd be able to play. for a month. Maybe this isn't a season-long player, but throughout time, like the waivers, I'll be able to do it. It's fun to look at the playoff schedule
Starting point is 00:04:18 and dream and hope at this time of year, but it's still too early to be doing that. Yeah, there's so much turnover on the defensive side, and what I was going to say is I really pay attention to extreme matchups to start the year. If I, because I know Houston's defense is going to be really good. Sure. But something middle of the pack or something that gets rated as a kind of
Starting point is 00:04:39 bad matchup based off of last year's numbers and stats and players. I'm not over-emphasizing that. Like, I'm looking for extremely easy matchups. Like, I still know that Cincinnati and Dallas are not going to be, they're not going to be top 10 defenses. So those are going to be juicy to start the year. But I'm not over-emphasizing it myself. Yeah, and then the only thing I would say that I specifically look at,
Starting point is 00:05:00 I mean, if I'm in my draft and I figure I'm going to end up streaming my quarterback, so I missed out on, you know, the top studs and now I'm getting towards a double-digit round. You're not missing out on Josh Allen the last few marks. I'll tell you that. No, no, I'm not. But should that happen, then I look at the schedule for those later round quarterbacks that I don't think
Starting point is 00:05:21 I'm necessarily just playing for 17 games. I'm going to say, well, who's he playing week one, week two? And then certainly every single draft, the thing I probably care about the most when it comes to the defenses that I'm picking is what are they getting off to? You know,
Starting point is 00:05:36 if it's like, oh, do you want to play against the Lions in week one. Right. No. But like the Packers, the Packers start Minnesota, the Jets, the Falcons, they're good defense. Like, that's, I'm fine with that. Packers are tough because I need I need Micah. Sure. To be back. And I don't think he'll be there to open the season.
Starting point is 00:05:56 All right. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports Lions Titan Sam Leporta with the herniated disc, fully cleared for training camp. So the Leporta train keeps going. Keeps going. Hey, incredible citing your source work over there, Andy. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was ESPN's Jeremy Fowler that did that. Yeah. The Seahawks officially placed running back Zach Sharbonne on the pup. To be expected, he should start the season on the
Starting point is 00:06:29 pup as well. The dolphins placed Chris Bell, their rookie wide receiver on the active NFI list recovering from an ACL. Not completely unexpected at this point. Slightly disappointing. You know, you hope with the whole We don't have any white out situation they have. That as well as just the year of the Peptide advanced healing ahead of schedule. You know, you want them out there, but he tore his ACL pretty late.
Starting point is 00:06:57 So, you know, whether he's there, week one is TBD. Albert Breer reporting the Buccaneers are prepared to dive in on negotiations with Baker Mayfield this week. That's good. Is there a team now? unprepared to have negotiations with their quarterback. Well, I just want to know the difference between current status and diving in. Like, is this, we've been in a big room or getting into a smaller room?
Starting point is 00:07:21 Yeah, wait. Are we a pool legitimately? Yeah, I mean, are we feet in? Are we waste in? Like, and now we're going to die? No, if you're diving in, you can't be. You have nothing in? No, not yet.
Starting point is 00:07:32 You're about to dive in. Maybe you can help me with this. The NFL networks, Ian Rappaport says the Cardinals are in agreement that Jacob Berset quote deserves more money. This is a great news section today. I love this report. We all agree he deserves more money. No, we're not going to pay him more. Yeah, but like, dude deserves it. The funny thing is, Jacoby Brissette is his own agent, which I find to be all the more humorous in my cartoonish mind. Jacobi's agent also agrees. Yes, yes. He deserves more money. Yeah, all of them agree. Jacoby, his agent, the Cardinals, we just can't quite get there on what that represents.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I've never seen the self-agent thing work for the benefit of the player. I feel like we've heard about it working. I mean, if you're a LeBron or something like. Lamar has been negotiating. But that's like if you are the most elite where you're basically going to get everything you ask for, okay. But if you're not, you need an agent. I feel like it's. But the counterpoint would be if you're not, I don't need an agent coming in putting hands in the pockets.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Oh, you want the hand. You want to give the 10% away because that agent is going to get you more. Well, both those teams ready to dive in, just really haven't dove in yet. But they're getting there. There's a chance. Any day now. Let's get it going. Let's get divisional.
Starting point is 00:09:02 The NFC East last year, Philadelphia won the division at 11 and 6. It was the first time we've had back-to-back division champs in the NFC East since 0304. That is wild. The other thing I've noticed when I look at all the recent winners, if I count it back from this past year, Eagles, Eagles, Cowboys, Eagles, Cowboys, Commanders, Eagles, and so on, is that the Giants haven't appeared in that list since 2011. Every other team has won the division at least three times
Starting point is 00:09:32 since the last time the Giants won it. 15 years ago. Which is wild because they're not winning it this year. Yeah, well, not with that speech. Dude. Harbaugh. I see the New York Giants. It's the New York Giants.
Starting point is 00:09:47 No, hold on. It's the New York Giants. If you haven't seen Harbaugh's incredible motivational speech. Yeah, it was. He was on John Gannon levels. He did not have a script. Let's put it that way. Yeah, I wouldn't put it all the way to Gannon, but it was disappointing.
Starting point is 00:10:07 It didn't work for me. It was lame. It didn't do much. Yeah. Hopefully there's been some better conversations. And I don't know Harbaugh. I don't know his tendencies. At that point, you just got, you just got to start cursing.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You have no material, man. Oh, is that that's where you got to go? Just unleash it. What about pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. Got a fire in your movie. I like what the Falcon's saying. You know, Liam Cohen was cringe till the winds started flowing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Well, but I mean, we know who Harbaugh is. Yeah, he's kind of cringe. let's start with Philly. Last year, projected win total, 11 and a half, eight and four and one score games. They have whatever the... Just short. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:10:55 Well, the projection is... Oh, 11, yeah. They have the opposite of the 49er situation going on in the last two years. They have been one of the healthiest teams in all of football. We'll see if that continues. San Francisco should hire away some of those guys. Yeah, there is certainly a huge amount of luck built into health, but there has to be better staffs. And like when you have a crap medical staff, or as in you look and your team is always getting wrecked by injuries, you got to start looking around at other people are doing.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah, the training, I don't even know if it's the medical staff versus the training staff and whatever you're doing. I mean, they're doing something wrong in San Francisco. There's just no way that you are always that injured. But yeah, it's nice that the Eagles were healthy. Obviously, that helps them get to the Super Bowl. And honestly, last year, despite their health, one of their big problems that we saw it was whenever they were missing Lane Johnson, they looked like a different offense. Well, this year, they are projected for 10 and a half wins. They have a new offensive coordinator, Sean Mannion.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Again. Again, another new one. one of the interesting things about their offense, since it's always a part of the debate. Back in 2024, they had 48 tush pushes. They converted 81% of those. Last year, 33 tush pushes. Pushes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Whoa. They converted 64% of them. I almost made the joke. Just don't say it three times fast. Don't do it. Sixth in points per game in terms of their defense giving up, you know, they were an elite defense. know that about them. But on the offensive side, it wasn't great. 24th in yards
Starting point is 00:12:44 per game. 19th and points per game. That's how you end up with the new offensive coordinator. The problem that I have is that generally speaking, your offense doesn't take a step forward when you're already older, running back gets older and your
Starting point is 00:12:59 best wide receiver leaves and you replace him with Hollywood Brown on Don Tavian Wicks and Mackay Lemon. Mackay Lemon is certainly not AJ Brown today. Maybe he can get there tomorrow. But I do have my concerns about the trajectory
Starting point is 00:13:15 of the offense and whether we're going to see like we've gotten the whole experience with Philadelphia. We've gotten offense the coordinator that comes in. They stink. We have offense coordinator that comes in, Kellamore, they're awesome. We now have another one coming in. It's just a team that's quick to turn on somebody.
Starting point is 00:13:31 It's really, well, it's not always turning on somebody. Sometimes it's success and sometimes it's failure. It's been pretty much every other year. They went to the Super Bowl, Siken was great, ended up going to Brian Johnson. He sucked. They were like, ah, that didn't work. So then they've got to replace him. They bring in Kellamore. That was great. He did so well that he gets a head coaching job. Then Kevin Petulow comes in. He sucked. And he was terrible. One of the worst offenses imaginable to watch. And you can blame Jalen Hertz and say, some people did. Some people said,
Starting point is 00:14:02 well, Petulow's got to like dumb down the offense because Jalen Hertz can't read defenses, blah, blah, blah. We're not inside the building. I have no idea if that's true or not. But I know that we've seen Jalen Hertz run a good offense. We've seen him, you know, go out there and rush for 600 and throw for 3,800. So he can do it. Now you're making another change. You're going to Sean Mannion. And so, yeah, running back older. No, AJ Brown.
Starting point is 00:14:27 No, AJ Brown. Those are negatives. But I do think that the shift of the offense is massively important, is a huge upgrade. because what we saw from the system last year was so bland, vanilla, boring. Well, let me say a couple things. One thing we did learn is that they couldn't fix it even when they tried last year. It wasn't like they didn't know something was wrong in week two, three, four, five, six, seven. They couldn't get it right. The other thing I want to bring up, and this is a fair question.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Like, we've seen this many, many times. Some players have very special seasons. You go back to 2022. Jalen Hertz in our consistency metrics, 53% great games, 80% good, 7% bust. Last year, the worst in all three metrics for him, 13% great games.
Starting point is 00:15:18 That's a humongous difference on what you're getting week to week. And just 44% good games. He busted 31% of the time. I know we can point to lots of different things, but at least, like, the range of outcomes is there for Jalen Hertz. you could have a resurgent year. Devante Smith, Mackay-Lemann, Dallas Goddert, Seqon can run the ball, the offensive line stays healthy.
Starting point is 00:15:40 But you can also get this. And so I think it is one of those things where fantasy managers are having a hard time knowing whether they should reward the past in their draft spot for Jalen Hertz now. I think they should. Obviously, I've been a Jalen Hertz apologist for many years. Sometimes it's been great.
Starting point is 00:15:58 It's never really been bad. It's not like he crushed you last year, but it was very disappointing. And the change, though, to me, obviously lose AJ Brown, that's not, you know, that's not helpful to the offense. However, I think when they spread the ball around and not having to force it one direction is good. But also, on the goal line, I mean, the tush push has been magical for them over the last several years. It's not in the news anymore, meaning it's not coming up, it's not being voted on this year. It will be back.
Starting point is 00:16:28 If you look at just tush pushes over the last couple of years, there were opportunities that just they just didn't come this last year. And that's, you know, you had 13 attempts two years ago, 15 attempts the season prior. And then this last year, only eight attempts at the goal that they just found themselves on the goal line. And that's been his secret sauce for fantasy. He hasn't, since his sophomore year, has been double-digit touchdowns every year, 15 touchdowns, 14 rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:16:58 last year it was eight. It's just many fewer attempts at the push on the goal line. Those are things that I don't think are... I mean, he only had 421 rushing yards. Yeah. Which is outside of the touchdown argument, you're talking about a pretty big downgrade for him. He's gone from 784, 760, 605, 634-2421. You're going to have to have the rushing touchdowns go up. He is not, you know, he's going to be 28.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I think that you, the years of having, you know, 700 plus rushing yards, those are gone. Did you mean passing touchdowns going up or were you saying rushing touchdown? Rushing touchdowns, going to. Because rushing touchdowns the last couple of years, he's been at 14, 15, and then this last year drops to 8. That's a massive amount of fantasy points when you're talking about losing seven rushing touchdowns. I wasn't sure if you were saying he needs to become more prolific as a touchdown thrower because his rushing yardage is diminishing. No, I mean, I think those are different things. The rushing yardage will be going down,
Starting point is 00:17:59 but I don't think the rushing touchdown totals will necessarily be going down because of the tush push. When they get to the one yard line, that's not like upping his rushing yardage. Oh, but they're less successful at it now. They're slightly, but it's still going to do it. It's still the most successful play in football. So it's, you know, it's like, were they, did they fail like once or twice more percentage-wise than they had the year prior. yeah, but they're absolutely still going to call that play. Points per game, Hertz was still the QB7.
Starting point is 00:18:28 So, I mean, he finishes at 10, but he didn't play the last week. I think there's a lot more risk to Jalen Hertz now than there ever has been before. Oh, see, I feel like the risk earlier. Because AJ Brown gave him a guaranteed passing game ceiling that I don't think he can necessarily meet. I mean, last year, those numbers you talked about, Mike, that was his career high in passing touchdowns. If they hadn't been there, you're talking about an even more disappointing year consistency-wise. ADP-wise, he is the last of the, like you feel cozy. They feel like a warm blanket of job.
Starting point is 00:19:00 So you both feel that way. Well, I'm just saying what the price is a point where right now it's hurt. I'm sorry, Josh Allen, Lamar, Drake, Joe Burrow, Jaden, then hurts is what I'm seeing for current redraft ADP. So at that point, it's like, what's the, you know, in your head, Andy, what's the, how large is the gap between Hertz and Jaden or Hertz and Burrow? Like
Starting point is 00:19:26 do you as a fantasy football player, are you feel like, oh, I'm so confident. Yeah, so then why? Just wait for Hertz. Yeah. It would be the thesis. So I think he's a fine pick. I think it's fair to put him at the end of the list of the known commodities for fantasy. Yeah. I think you can say both things
Starting point is 00:19:50 and both things can be true where he's probably not going to be a top three quarterback anymore because the rushing yardage isn't going to be up at 750 plus. He's not going to be a bad quarterback for fantasy because of the rushing touchdowns. And so this year the risk is, it's the lowest ADP we've seen from him in several years. You're getting him in the sixth round. Yeah, I think people have doubts about the offense without AJ Brown and doubts about, you know, the next player we're going to talk about, which is Sequin Barkley, who had the prolific Super Bowl winning incredible 20-24 season,
Starting point is 00:20:25 17-20-plus-yard runs, 740-plus-yard runs, was just truly unbelievable. Last year, I mean, we did not see the explosiveness from him. And so people want to know for fantasy, where does he slot in among the big names? Is a resurgent year in the cards? Or, you know, I've seen some people talk about Sequin in the context of he's never been great at like,
Starting point is 00:20:48 getting what wasn't, like not having that offensive line that's setting things up for him. He always wants a home run. Like going back to the time as a giant, you know, he there's plays where you're like, come on, Sequin, just take the four, take the four, take the five here. So that's just, that's part of the Sequin Barclay experience. I mean, he was, so there were 55 qualified running backs that had 80 or more attempts last year. He was ranked 48 in stuffed at the line of scrimmage. And honestly,
Starting point is 00:21:18 tells me he wants to hit the home run and it worked really well when all the lanes were wide open. But 48th and rushed success rate as well. 42nd in yards after contact per attempt. People were getting bodies on him and the team could not pass the ball well to start the year. So I think more teams were stacked on the box against him and it was working. Yeah. Could Sequin have a resurgent year? Yes, Lane Johnson being healthy, opening the lanes up. That could happen.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I am more skeptical. When I watched Tank Bigsby behind the same offensive line last year, he looked great. Yeah. And, you know, obviously, Sequin is a very, very, very good, you know, an all-time back, but he's 29 years old. Did Lane, how many games did Lane even miss? I feel like he missed almost nothing.
Starting point is 00:22:04 We do talk, he was banged up, but I feel like he barely missed any game. I think he missed, like, within a game where he technically started. I'll look that up, but I remember it being a big. 10 games for Lane. Okay. So he missed a good amount. Big storyline often of how much that hurt their offense. 13 carries inside the 5 for Saquan.
Starting point is 00:22:24 One rushing touchdown. Yikes. So to see the push, tush, tush, push. There you go. I'm really weary around that phrase now. To see those numbers go down and the Saquan rushing touchdowns go down is interesting. Devante Smith. you know, I think that his ADP, he's a player that his ADP is going to continue to rise
Starting point is 00:22:48 into August. That's my only concern about him. It's going way up. So redraft right now, he's kind of been, you know, in your mocks and things of like this. Oh, yeah. I got Devonte Smith in the wide-de-seer-twice. He's not. In best ball, he's a top 12 guy. Yeah, I was going to say he's being drafted. I think that I think that Devante Smith without AJ Brown is essentially a wide receiver one for fantasy. He's already finished there before. We've seen it whenever AJ Brown has missed time that Devante Smith steps up. But you're not getting a discount on him. It's not surprising people. He's being drafted right now in best ball drafts like a wide receiver one. And when push comes to shove later, I think he's a fine pick, but the upside is kind of
Starting point is 00:23:33 built in. I think that the guy on this offense whose upside is not baked into ADP, I don't know why It just doesn't feel exciting at all. But Mackay Limon, yeah. McCai Lemon is, one, great. I mean, I think he is a fantastic wide receiver. He was a first round pick at wide receiver. There was a big three this year.
Starting point is 00:23:56 He was one of those big three great wide receivers coming in. And he's coming in to a team that lost AJ Brown. So it's like, oh, okay, there's ways and avenues. You go like, this is a good offense. There's an opportunity. And the talent is there. should he be like a breakout surprising year one player, you're drafting him at a place where that's going to be very impactful and helpful for fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah, with training camp on the way, it will be interesting to hear how, what the utilization of Lemon and Wicks, what they're doing, because Mackay Lemon could really start moving up in ADP right now where he is. Like that's mid-seventh, late seventh round for a first round, wide receiver in a team that has a bunch of opportunity is those are players you should draft.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah, the wide receiver room is going to be an interesting one to watch in Philly. I mean, Devante Smith, the cost is still high, but he's not, like, I think most people are putting like George Pickens up ahead of him right now in rankings. And that's a player where you're like, okay, Devante Smith should be their bona fide number one, but the volume differential. Mackay Lemon is a discussion, Wix, we'll watch training camp.
Starting point is 00:25:08 But Dallas Goddard, Dallas Goddard is the most sneaky, hidden, possible tight-in gym that exists in my opinion. It is like we're sitting here discussing the gargantuan absence of A.J. Brown. Mackay Liman, Eli Stowers is making no headlines. Mackay Liman has made few. He's been hurt. He's been banged up the hamstring. But a rookie to come in and become a superstar for fantasy versus a tight-in being able to be a number-two target.
Starting point is 00:25:39 if he's the number two target for the Eagles, there were lots of games last year. He was super viable due to other players missing games. Due to touchdowns. Well, he had 11 touchdowns, but I'm just saying like, this seems like the Dallas Goddard solo project year, where you could have a bridge here between lemon growing into the role
Starting point is 00:25:58 and Stowers growing into the role. And here's Goddard getting 90 plus percent of snaps in an offense all year long. I don't mind taking a shot. He's one of the names where we brought up many times. When you're in the last round of your draft and you've done the thing where, hey, you didn't get one of the stud tight in, so you're just punting the position to the end. He's in that list of absolutely take a shot at him. 11 touchdowns last year. Now, that was an outlier for him.
Starting point is 00:26:22 He's a guy who's usually been like four touchdowns a year. But with A.J. Brown gone and the proof that he can be utilized around the end zone, that's, you know, why not? Why not take a shot at him? He's always been ridiculously hurt, which has jacked up his fantasy finishes as well. If you look at points per game, last year it was his best because of the touchdowns, 10.3. But he's had years of 9.5 before, 9.1. But he always missed his time. I mean, he played 10 games the year before, 14, 12, 15, 11.
Starting point is 00:26:50 That's been his kind of problem. But I just think that if you're getting really, really late and you want to take somebody that you might just be able to leave in that spot, you're taking them as a streamer, but you might be able to leave them there all year long. I think Goddard is in that category. Yeah. So they open with Washington on the road against Tennessee, on the road against Chicago, then Rams and Jacksonville after that.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So those first three weeks, I mean, it's interesting. I'm curious, Andy, so there's three old tight ends. They're going back to back to back. And they're tight end 13, 14, 15. So they're basically the undrafted, the first undrafted tight ends or near the end of your draft. Kelsey is one of them. Andrews and Goddard. Yeah, I mean, I have Goddard leaps and bounds ahead of those guys.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I mean, Goddard is my number 10. My number 10 overall tight end. I've got Kelsey at 17. I got Andrews at 21. I'll just take Kelsey of that group. Yeah, you seem to be pretty Kelsey. I'm just okay with the he. I think Goddard's going to get, I mean, he still had 60 catches.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Sure. Travis Kelsey still had 76 and 850 yards. Yeah, I understand. But he's, I mean, he is clearly on his last. Yes. This is the end for Travis, but as of right now, you're taking the PPR. It's like, yeah, Kelsey's probably still the number two target. We may have to bet that later on this. Kelsey will probably have more work. And then if you talk touchdowns, obviously you can have 11 from Goddard last year.
Starting point is 00:28:24 But around the goal line, they'll still look for Kelsey. Yeah, I mean, that's the one thing. My Kyle M is not a big dude. No. So AJ Brown has been that dude for a while. And I don't know. I just have a good feeling about I don't like it. I don't want it. It's just there. It seems like the obvious pick on that roster that where we want to find somebody else to me.
Starting point is 00:28:45 We'll take a break. We'll talk Cowboys. The Dallas Cowboys. I wonder if you could have remembered their record last year. Do you know it? Have you looked in the dock? No, I didn't look at their record. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Yeah, try to remember. Because they're just a weird team, man. Yes. Gosh. Last year, because we are covered in the, the pickings and lamb and the offense. The offensive numbers. But what was their record, Jay?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Man, I feel like it was near 500. Seven and nine? Yeah. Was it? That's not even a complete record. Oh, yeah, because eight and eight is 16 now. I was doing old school. No, I really didn't. The projected win total last year was seven and a half. It's eight and a half this year.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Warren Sharp has him with the fourth toughest schedule for 2012 six. We don't like that. They were number two in yards per game and five in points per game. They were a terrible defense. And here we go. Brian Schottenheimer season number two. Hot stat from Kyle.
Starting point is 00:29:58 He coached all 17 games. Kyle? Kyle's coaching now? No, Brian Schottenheimer coached all 17 games with a visor on. Well, Kyle's not here, so I wondered. He was coaching. He just, he has the visor stats for Brian Schottonheimer. Dude loves the visor.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Clayton Adams number. Not just a visor, but you could see him frequently with a backwards visor. Which is not normal, but it is cool, man. That was normal for me as a sophomore with my bleached hair. Did you go backwards visor? Bro. Yeah. You weren't cool unless you were backwards visor.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Sideways visor? No, I wasn't that cool. Okay. You know, you talked about Mike booed the tough schedule coming up for the Cowboys. but that is a potentially good thing for them. They do have the Houston Texans in their fourth game, but this isn't necessarily the most difficult schedules for offenses to play against. This is good teams, and I'm looking at the totality,
Starting point is 00:31:01 and they've got a lot of games that could be absolute shootouts and barn burners. The 49ers are going to represent a very tough schedule, but against when you're like the Cowboys and you take, don't have a good defense. And you've got a great offense. You're going to be able to score on almost all of these teams. And so, I don't know, maybe a tough schedule from a wins and losses perspective is good for fantasy football. So let's talk through the pieces here.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Dak, we've heard you sing his praises throughout the offseason. C.D. Lamb, George Pickens. I think there's been the fun debate amongst, you know, pundits about who's the better player as an actual wide receiver. today. You know, I still have C.D. Lamb higher. I think he's going to get the first look on a lot of plays. But George Piggins had a special year, and we know how he was much better with Lamb off the field. Lamb struggled with the drops. Both of these guys are certifiably studs for this year. Yes, they are both number ones. I think they are both worth the price of admission, with both of them staying healthy. And then you also have the nitro ups and the, the nitro ups.
Starting point is 00:32:12 and if the cowboy you don't have misses time, then yours is going to be even more valuable. Them with DAC and the two of them working together, it's an extremely exciting offense. And the fact that Giovante is not a nothing burger really, really helps as well. This is like, I'm very excited. I'm drafting.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I'm fine with C.D. Lamet, wide receiver 5, and I'm very okay with George at wide receiver 11. CD Lamb is fantastic. He's 27 years old. He is in his absolute peak prime. He was an A inconsistency over his last 17 games. That includes a game where he played almost 0% of the snaps, and he wasn't scoring touchdowns last year.
Starting point is 00:33:02 He was still great for fantasy. He's obviously got the upside of scoring the touchdowns. We saw 12 touchdowns a couple of years. ago. CD Lamb is their alpha and I think he's got a lot to prove coming off of an injured year. So I have, I still put CD Lamb in, you know, basically in in a tier A, tier one, you know, JSN CD Lamb to me, they're near each other. You're cheering him above George? What's that? So you have Oh, he is definitely a tier above George to me, without a doubt. I mean, I think you, I mean, he is for me too, Mike, and I like George. I just. Yeah, that's not an anti-George take. He was a
Starting point is 00:33:40 my guy last year. But when they were both on the field, it really was, you know, it was C.D. Lamb getting it done. Just the comps with both of them on the field together. The sample of them both on the field is very difficult because it was like the first two games. Okay. So that's, what did George do in those first two? Let me pull up those stats. So week one was not great. Week two was solid for George Pickens. But I'm saying like, that's his first two games as a cowboy. So of course, DAC is going to go to CD Lamb to the tune of 13 and 11 targets.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Then George goes absolutely nuclear in the time that CD Lamb is off the field. And then when they were both back on, it was really both of them just being very good until the end of the season there was kind of a slump. Let me bring up something that I don't think is very fun about the experience with Dallas
Starting point is 00:34:36 that presented itself last year. DAC was the quarterback five. We know the counting stats are going to be there. You passed for over 4,500 yards last year despite missing CD at 30 touchdowns. The weird thing about DAC last year was that, look, this team's projected, what, seven and a half wins? When they won the ball game last year, he averaged 24 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:34:59 When they lost, he averaged 12. So half the fantasy points in his losses is the largest gap between any of the top 15 quarterbacks. This was a like when it's good, it's great. And when they're losing, he was not a dependable enough fantasy quarterback. Does that, I would trend concern you or is it something that
Starting point is 00:35:19 you see? It doesn't oh, like it doesn't destroy me because number one, you don't have to pay up for DAC. Dak remains one of the best values at the quarterback position. One of those games that is really dragging down the average. He played
Starting point is 00:35:35 half of Week 18 against the Giant. where he scored 0.7 fantasy point. So that's involved another horrific game on the road against Denver. So it's like that stuff makes sense. And you know, when you have, when you're playing a fantasy quarterback like DAC and it's week eight on the road against the Denver Broncos,
Starting point is 00:36:01 you go, hmm, maybe I don't start. Maybe I don't play DAC this week. And that's a, I think a benefit, him. If you take him as a, what quarterback is he going as right now? He is going, I lost. You guys have him ranked much higher than I do. But he's going as like QB 11.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Nineth round. As a quarterback not being drafted as a top 10 who will, if he plays 16 games, Dak Prescott will finish as a top 10 quarterback. How many times has he done it in his career? Almost basically every single time that he has played a full season. He's been the quarterback 6, 10, 2, 7, 3, and 5. So he's done it 6 times. As long as he has played 13 or more games, he has been a quarterback one.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I want to play a game. It's a Javante-Waunti. Oh, man. Do you want boring Javante? Okay. This game is called boring or exciting. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Do you want boring Javante or do you want exciting Cam Scatterby? Jason, I'll let you go first. I want Cam Scataboo. I want, oh, I think I want boring Javante. Do you want boring Javante or exciting Jeremiah Love? Jeremiah I love. Do you want boring Javante Williams or do you want exciting Trayvion Henderson? Trevo.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I don't want to answer this. Mike has to answer that one because I know he's going to be on the Javante side. Last question for you. Do you want boring Javante Williams? let me pick a good one here or exciting quinshon Judkins I'll be on Giovante there give me the offense
Starting point is 00:37:46 We found I feel like you've You're always answering Judkins Yeah Javante that's Yeah I mean the line is You look at the just the difference in Touchdown opportunities between the Cowboys and the Browns and makes it pretty easy The most exciting thing about Javante is that this is not
Starting point is 00:38:02 There is no debate in this backfield of any kind It is the most plain and simple We paid him again and he's our running best and this is the running back for the Cowboys. Like that, I have zero fear of anybody else in that back view. You can say Jaden Blue or Phil Moppa or Malik. You can say all the, none of them matter.
Starting point is 00:38:19 It's going to be Giovante. The team got a lot out of them last year. It's the same coaching staff with an offensive line, former offensive line head coach, right? Wasn't that what Clayton Adams was a former Cardinals? Oh, line guy. And he's like, yeah, let's just bring them back. So, I mean, there is something to be said about being able to start
Starting point is 00:38:38 that guy every week. You never think about it. Even in the Bayshalt-Tooten Chris Rodriguez stuff, we have to have in the back of our head, oh, is it going to come off on a third down? Sure. Now, Giovante's not good on it. He can't catch the ball, but he's going to be their starter. Yeah, I mean, you can't ask for much more than is he the goal line back? Absolutely. 100% when they're on the goal line, he's going to get the touchdown opportunities in the rushing game. Is he passed two? Yeah, over 50 targets from DAC last year. He's had over six. 70, you know, recently when he was in Denver. Yeah, you won't do anything with him, but he's going to get the ball.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Is he on a good offense? Yeah. I mean, the real issue here is, do they win games? That's, you know, it's, they're, they might be a sub 500 team. This will be a fun one to predict. Yeah. We have the Giants. I was just in real quick. In Washington starting their season. Jake Ferguson in the, in, this is fantasy football is wild. Jake Ferguson last year, eight top 10 fantasy finishes, second only to Tray McBride on the season. And I won't draft him.
Starting point is 00:39:45 How many of those games were Ceeley Liam out for? That's the whole thing. I mean, it's nice. Sign him immediately if one of those guys goes down. Yes. He is, he apparently, like, as much as Prescott loves throwing to the tight end position, I guess there's only enough to go around for two.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And if one of those two is Jake Ferguson, he's going to be great. But otherwise, I would avoid him. All right. The Washington Commanders, it was a lost season, five and 12 after having a great year with the Jaden Daniels rookie campaign. Their projected win total going into last year was nine and a half. Oh, just missed.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah, yeah. If they doubled, they would have covered. The Eagles were the healthiest team or one of the most healthy teams. This was one of the most injured teams. Nine starters missed at least seven games. third most adjusted games lost due to injury. It's exactly what it felt like. You never even got, like, Jaden and McLaren didn't even get a play together.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I think they had three games out of 17 together. And so it was a disaster. I mean, this year, the win total has been nerfed down a little from that nine and a half. It's at seven and a half. I'll be honest. I mean, there are some teams I have a really good vibe, feel, understanding of what it's going to look like. This team, with the departure of Cliff Kingsbury,
Starting point is 00:41:07 with the Jaden Daniels trying to get back to health situation with you know question marks in the wide receiver room and a vampire calling the offense blah blah blah yes I don't think I know what they're going to be is my point I feel like we're so far removed from Vegas Vegas doesn't either Vegas says we'll go seven and a half
Starting point is 00:41:30 yeah I mean I don't most of these reviews were like looking at what they did last year this one I feel like it's kind of not only is it unhelpful because you have a change in offensive coordinator but it's unhelpful because you just didn't have players in place last year to do anything that are going to be in those spots to start this year I mean Jaden has got an offseason to get healthy Terry McLaren's going to be back out there
Starting point is 00:41:53 they have made some changes to the offensive side of the ball they brought in Chigaconkwo they brought in Rashad White they drafted Antonio Williams in the third round a player, I think we all kind of, we like the film. We said goodbye to the old dudes, Debo, Ertz, Echler. That was kind of like stopgap guys that, like none of those, well, Ertz was, but the other two weren't a part of the previous season, right, where they had the success and went to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:42:22 So I don't even know if Erch was now that I'm thinking about it. But he was there. Yeah, Ertz was a part of that. I couldn't remember when he left Arizona. No, he's been in Washington for two years. Okay. he got yeah but last off season 24 he played the full year like Echler and Debo were parts of the conversation in the draft area of the year last year
Starting point is 00:42:44 yes they're gone um what are they going to be what what is this team going to be on offense because you've got to tell me that there's some reliable pass catchers for me to believe in jaden yeah i mean so obviously there is a reliable pass catcher and terry mccloren so you've got one Antonio williams high draft capital wide receiver that i think fits the the the mold for a wide receiver two pretty good. He's a last round dart throw in a lot of, I mean, we've been taking him in mock drafts as one of those later rookies
Starting point is 00:43:12 who has opportunity and talent and a good quarterback here in Jaden. The, it was for Antonio Williams, he did play 93% of his routes from the slot last year. And yes, I know that things can be overmade about that where
Starting point is 00:43:28 a college player plays in the slot and then they're like, no, I can do everything. But this is a, a first round wide receiver. He's a third round guy. Does that give you any concern that should they follow the trends and only have two wide receivers out there that he won't be the second guy? Yeah, I mean, obviously, if he's just being a slot wide receiver for the commanders, then he's not going to be great for fantasy. You know, you look at how the team lines up, and I would imagine, you know, you've got Luke McCaffrey kind of. No, bro, you got former first
Starting point is 00:44:04 round pick. Trailim Burtz. Oh, they've got Traylon Burks. Remember that touchdown? Oh, man. Tustown was sick. Yeah, I agree with you, Andy. They don't have a lot of weapons, but Jaden Daniels is a weapon in his own right that can make up for a lot of that. I mean, will he... You could ignore all of the weapons and just say, look, anybody with the rushing floor of Jaden Daniels' ilk. I mean, this is going to be a guaranteed fantasy producing season.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It's funny because, you know, you try to hope that he can comp to Lamar and develop into, you know, that level of a player. If he does, and you go, okay, well, who do they have? They've got Zay Flowers and an old Mark Andrews and, you know, some rookies coming in. And you don't really worry about it there. So I think it comes down to, is Jaden going to be great? Last year he went into the season in the third round. People were assuming, okay, this is that next superstar. Now he's a sixth round pick.
Starting point is 00:45:01 he's dropped a lot. Some of that, I'm sure, is the weapon. Some of that is probably the durability. The fact that we saw him get injured as an undersized mobile quarterback last year. But I'm fine taking a shot on a guy with the total potential to go out there and rush for 800 yards. He was basically on pace to break all scrambling records. Yeah, he was not doing anything different running wise last year in the games he was active. He just got hurt. Through the air was the price. was not as good. Well, yeah, yes, you can you can explain it away with all the personnel, but statistically,
Starting point is 00:45:37 completion percentage dropped 8%. Yards per attempt went down by 0.7. Touchdown percent was down almost a full point. We've seen this a couple times in a row where, you know, I've talked about it a little bit with the Patriots last year in their schedule. The schedule for rookie Jaden Daniels and the commanders was a cakewalk schedule. and so last year it got harder. They only won five games with the injuries.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I think their defense is not very good, which is good for fantasy, but I don't expect them to win a ton of games this year. At the running back position. Yeah, who are you taking a shot on? So, I mean, first you got to... I didn't think we'd be doing this whole dance again this year, to be honest with you. Yeah, I thought they would do more than add Rashad White. We thought Jeremiah Love might be going there.
Starting point is 00:46:23 So Bill, Jacori-Kroski-Marrett, it does start with him. They're very close in ADP. I think they're very close in terms of who I would prefer to have on my team. This is very much a training camp. We need more news on how they're handling things. Like Rashad White can come in and he can already do everything. Maybe it's not he does everything great,
Starting point is 00:46:52 but he does everything perfectly acceptable for, an NFL team where Bill is the one who has the juice and everything they've kind of said about him in this off season so far is the when he doesn't have the ball he has to be better. You know like in past protection in the actual
Starting point is 00:47:10 receiving game. If those, if it sounds like the coaching staff is going to become more confident in him and those things, I think there's a chance that Bill becomes just a true like he's on the field all the time. But this is
Starting point is 00:47:26 like I said, you need the news because it could be a nothing burger and it ends up completely being Rashad White. There are Chigacanquo believers out there. I've been one before. Three years, $17 million deal arrives to be the tight end one. I'm sorry, Mike, but the tight end one on an offense that like financially. Zacherts was a big part, way too big a part for you to handle of the Washington offense when he was catching passes here. We just talked about the absence of pass catchers in the wide receiver room. There's room. Let me just put it that way.
Starting point is 00:47:57 There is room for Chigacanquo to make his mark in this offense. Oh, gosh. You can acknowledge everything I said and still like Ben Senate, just so you know. Yes. And it's, look, Ben Senate, year one, five receptions. Year 2, 11, year 3, 24. I'm just saying, at this rate, we're growing exponentially. Jason, I need somebody to talk about Chig
Starting point is 00:48:31 because that might matter. Look, Chig is a very athletic tight end that we've seen have some breakaway plays. They need him desperately. They paid him. He will have the opportunities. They passed the ball.
Starting point is 00:48:46 They paid him desperately as well, which maybe is the case. They pass the ball a lot to Zackert. I think that the opportunity will be there for him. Absolutely a sleeper. You know, he's basically an undrafted tight end that is you know, it's like if you if you told me that one of him or Goddard was going to have a breakout, it's more likely that Chig breaks out.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah, because he could be the, you know, a high volume passing attack, number two target in the offense. There's really very little competition for that second target. And so, yeah, I would I would say Chig has the opportunity to break out. I'm not betting on it like the biggest loser is. That's his guy. But yeah, I mean, to me, I feel like the piece of this office I want is Jaden Daniels. And I'm not very excited about most all the other pass catchers. We haven't even mentioned Terry McLaurin, but, you know, he's older.
Starting point is 00:49:45 He was thriving on touchdowns a couple years ago. The ceiling is wide receiver what? Ceiling? The ceiling's still solid. Wide receiver. Like seven? I don't think that high. I do.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I think the ceiling is easy. a top 10 player. I'm realizing as we're doing all these teams from this entire division that all their tight ends might be the same player. From a fantasy perspective. Like I can make an argument that Ferguson did it for a bunch of games. Goddard did it
Starting point is 00:50:13 for a bunch of games. Chig has had big games. In fact, the last two years he's ended with like top six performances like multiple times in the last handful of weeks. He loves the end of the season. And then now we're going to talk about Isaiah likely. So we're just in the same boat of there's a lot of these guys. I want my, I mean, they're starters.
Starting point is 00:50:29 The difference between like tight end four and tight end 24 is not that much. Not enough for you. All right. We'll take a break. We got one more team. You guys just got the inside scoop this weekend. Well, the Giants went four and 13 last year. That was under the five and a half win total project.
Starting point is 00:50:55 They were one and seven. Did anyone hit their projections? They all hit. They go over? Yeah, they all hit their under. Yeah, that's kind of how it felt. There was a little bit of like all the teams had the air let out of it. them. Yeah. But one in seven and one score games cost Brian Dable's job. There were games.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Honestly, it was like, could you figure out how to lose this game? And if you gave me that opportunity to try, I would have still won. But he lost those games. There were some crazy games last year. Yeah, I forgot about all those. He lost nine straight games after week six. And in week six, they had beaten Philly on Thursday night. Oh, that was the game, right? Yeah. That was the, that was the dart scat game. I remember. that right? Where they took over the TV at the end and it was like you came into work on Friday like
Starting point is 00:51:43 holy crap guys. And we didn't get a long enough run. No. Neighbors, we didn't get to see him. He ran 11 routes with Jackson Dart before he suffered a season inning ACL that has turned into a difficult recovery. The recovery
Starting point is 00:52:00 of Camp Scataboo seems to have gone well. Yeah, he's doing flips. Because when he went down, that was like it was a tough one to see a tough one to watch. It's one of those visually you can you know immediately what has happened to that
Starting point is 00:52:15 player and it's it's disturbing and it was such a emotional gut punch for the fantasy football world. John Harbaugh takes over replaces Brian Dable. The New York, the New York Giants. Mike Kafka has gone
Starting point is 00:52:31 replaced by Matt Nagy. So after you watch, do you think Matt Nagy might have sucked the energy out of that room? Is that what happened. The budget magician had already performed and there was just not enough energy left in that press conference or that team meeting? It's it's very possible. I don't understand how these coaches keep getting jobs. You want him to be an assistant or something? I still wouldn't, but at least okay. You really look at his body of work and you're like, yeah, that's our OC. It's funny because in the offseason, Cliff Kingsbury was the Giants OC for about a minute.
Starting point is 00:53:12 It was like, oh, it seemed like that was a done deal. Mike, you were so excited about it because you were big believer in Jackson's dark. That's fantasy points right there. Absolutely. And then it went from Cliff Kingsbury's high speed offense, high passing volume offense to Manette. I mean, this is a weird situation because they're projected to win seven and a half, which puts, I mean, that would put hard. and the, you know, if he beats that by a game or two, that's like Coach of the Year candidate for a team that's in tough division.
Starting point is 00:53:44 But they lose their target leader. Wondell Robinson's gone. They won't have a healthy Malik neighbors at full force for a while. Their wide receiver room is a comedic. I tell you, Derry's Sling gets no respect. Well, sorry, Jason. I was speaking about Darnell Mooney, Juju Smith-Schuster, O'Dell Beckham Jr., Calvin Austin and Braxton Barrios.
Starting point is 00:54:05 A bunch of, we've been on a bunch of teams. We've been there, done that. We hope, I mean, are they hoping they combine to catch 22 passes? Yeah. I mean, that's, that's embarrassing. I'm hoping that it is more Darius Slayton and Malachi fields, kind of out with the old and in with the new. And Isaiah likely.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And Isaiah likely. And then quickly, hopefully, Malik neighbors. The weapons will be there eventually, but it is tough sledding. Without neighbors, it really, seems like they don't have the passing weapons to make it easy on themselves. Now, they can rely on Cam Scataboo. They've got a really good backfield, you know, having Tyrone Tracy as a backup behind Cam Scatabu is. On Singletary back behind them. Yeah, exactly. It's a, it's a deep core. This team has a great defense. Their defense, I think, can really surprise you bring in a coach like Harbaugh.
Starting point is 00:55:04 and I think you're going to have a team that starts the season winning ball games by running, running with Jackson Dart, running with Cam Scadaboo, and figuring that out offensively enough while they stay close in games. For fantasy, I don't think we're going to love this offense until neighbors show. I just think there's a lot of risk. I know you guys are big Jackson Dart fans, and I know the numbers of the running totals in his limited starts are very, very good. I'm more concerned. But I'm concerned that we can't have two things.
Starting point is 00:55:34 here. I'm concerned you can't have the reckless abandon that leads to fantasy points combined with durability that leads to being on the field. Yeah. For both guys in a way, for him and SCAT. For DART, you know, some of his numbers,
Starting point is 00:55:51 especially if you're talking, his success as a no huddle quarterback, he's a top five, like putting up top five numbers in those. Plays out of a huddle, very, very bad. And he was,
Starting point is 00:56:07 Dart was afforded a lot of no huddle last year. And you bring in Matt Nagy, Matt Nagy does not do no huddle. So it's like, will, will they allow him to use that superpower? And it's like, well,
Starting point is 00:56:22 why does that work? Because Dart is a, he's an athletic playmaker. You know, he can, obviously, he can get better. He was a first-round quarterback.
Starting point is 00:56:29 He can improve, but it's like, he's, the superpower last year was the play is broken down. It's not just sitting in the pocket and picking people apart. We're going to go streetball on people and it was working. I mean aside from
Starting point is 00:56:42 the injuries and the I do want to mention about Isaiah likely Jason and I boots on the ground there was an interview with Jackson Dart recently at the Fanatics Fest brought you by the fantasy footballers and we thought Schefter did that. So did he. And
Starting point is 00:57:02 we asked DART you know we're trying to we're fishing for the information you're trying to get him to start naming some players with intentionally not listing any players names like who's first the first and only player listed was Isaiah likely
Starting point is 00:57:17 however the way it was said was you know we got Isaiah likely it was like he there was a big pause in between the two names like he didn't fully know his name yet So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I think he was just trying to be clear. I saw that clip. Oh, you felt like it was a... I thought he was just trying to... People didn't know who Isaiah was. He realized he needed to be clear for the audience. Perhaps.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Perhaps that is what happens. I think he had Isaiah in mind right away. But it's still, yeah, there's still question marks. He was, Jackson Dart was the 32nd rank quarterback win under pressure in completion percentage. You know, that's something they're going to need to do better. They're middle of the pack offensive line needs to protect. him. We know we're going to see a lot of two tight-in sets. Belinger and likely probably on the field
Starting point is 00:58:06 together. He did have a great rapport with Bellinger. I think... Do you, Theo? Oh, Theo. I'm so sorry. Yes, Theo Johnson. I think Bellinger's still on the team, too. But yes, Theo last year, I liked that connection between them. Yeah, I did too. I think likely is the more explosive fun player and will probably produce more fantasy points. But both are weapons for Dart. Like, if you want to make the case that he's got enough to start the year before neighbors, to me it's likely and Theo complimenting those guys and them being smart enough to have both those I mean two tight in sets when Malik is hurt
Starting point is 00:58:37 makes all the more sense than anything else run the ball with Cam and see if you can survive with that defense but I'm just not sure what the ride's going to be like with Jackson Dart and I feel bad because I feel like he's the fun exciting sexy player to like and I just have doubts 100% is he was I mean if purely fantasy speaking
Starting point is 00:58:58 he was awesome. Once he took over as the starter, if you were like, I'm going to ride this out. Whenever he plays, I'll play him. He really had like two, I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:11 the dud in week 16. He had a game where he scored. That's Minnesota. Minnesota will get you. And he played 100% of snaps. But other, I mean, 20 points, 25, 22,
Starting point is 00:59:23 26, 27, 28, like those are, those aren't just good weeks. That's my quarterback was better than yours. So he's extremely exciting. The ADP, I think, makes total sense what I'm seeing right now for redraft quarterback 9. Because he is a player, he could to me. Like Jackson Dart, if Malik gets back sooner than we're expecting,
Starting point is 00:59:48 Dart can finish as a top five quarterback for fantasy football. He has all of this stuff. He's got Beckham and he's got Juju and he's got, no, I'm just talking. He has, but he like him, the player, he has. the stuff that we need for fantasy football. If we can get him some weapons, then things will go well. It's going to be a tough. But I hate Matt Nagy.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Interesting start, I should say. Dallas in week one, but at home. Then the Rams in Los Angeles in week two. Okay. So that is, if I'm Malik, I might sit that one out. But then Tennessee, Arizona, Washington, New Orleans. So let me ask you this real quick, Jason, because I've seen it asked, like the mock draft, all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:25 How do you approach Malik neighbors today? That's the last question I'm going to ask on the Giants. But how do you, you're going, let's say you're drafting in two weeks. I'll say 12 team. How are you going to approach him? Yeah, I am approaching Malik neighbors with two truths. One is that I think he starts the year on the pup. And so I won't have him for the first four or maybe even five weeks of the season.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I also think that he's going to be a star fantasy option at the end of this year. if he gets to, you know, 85, 90% of what he is capable of doing. You saw Wondale Robinson at 185 pounds get just murdered by Jackson Dart because he kept 14 targets, 13. It was like that was the guy that he was throwing to. And it was really good. I think, you know, that was 140 targets to Wondale Robinson. When Dart has neighbors on that field, he is going to, he's going to give him.
Starting point is 01:01:26 him every opportunity to succeed. I think he'll be a monster at the end of the year. Do you think fantasy playoffs, Malik neighbors will be, we'll talk about him? I think fantasy, fantasy playoffs neighbors should be. So what round are we talking? Is that a fifth round pick?
Starting point is 01:01:41 Is that a fourth round pick? In the fourth round is when I have started really looking at him. When he's there, the fourth round, I think that's when the entire league is going to start getting a little sweaty. What about no IR spot? At that point, yeah, I mean, that's with, OIR spot. At that point, I'm looking at my team and saying, okay, can I survive basically not
Starting point is 01:02:04 having a wide receiver here? Do I have, you know, if I feel like I've got a real stud running back, a hero running back approach, and I started with two other good wide receivers, I feel like I could take that shot at neighbors in the fourth. Well, I think we need to pick this division, and I've got my names written down. It's not an easy one. what do you guys think? Writing it down. You want me to read mine?
Starting point is 01:02:32 I've got mine. I've got my first and last, but I don't know. Me and my other two. Look, I'm going to do something that I'm taking... We're probably the same. It's Dallas. Dallas is winning.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And then I'm going Philly. Yep. And then I'm going to Giants. Oh, okay. And then I'm going to Washington. I went Washington, New York. But I got Dallas winning. I've got Philly, Dallas, New York, and then the commanders.
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