Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - NFC East Breakdown + Training Camp Begins! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/22

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

Fantasy Football show for July 22, 2025. Eagles, Commanders, Cowboys, and Giants! NFC East preview for the 2025 fantasy football season. Repeat for Saquon and the Eagles? Can the Cowboys bounce back? Get a full breakdown for this year’s fantasy football drafts! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2025 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT + Draft Analyzer available now at UltimateDraftKit.com(00:00) Introduction(05:10) NFL News(14:45) NFC East Breakdown(15:00) Philadelphia Eagles(28:20) Washington Commanders(41:10) Dallas Cowboys(51:15) New York GiantsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

Unless one has an affinity for looking ridiculously foolish, it is wise not to stumble aimlessly into a fantasy football draft. The Ultimate Draft Kit from the Fantasy Footballers contains all the information you need to avoid the jeers of your enemies and to snuff out any glint of hope in their souls. Imagine the gasps those trouser-wearing turnips will emit as you make yet another triumphant draft selection. Imagine their tears forming a formidable puddle as you assemble an unstoppable force. The ultimate draft kit comes bursting at the seams with fantasy goodness.

When you enter the draft room, you'll feel as if you were a monstrous beast let loose in a chicken coop. Head over to ultimatedraftkit.com today. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Ahhhh, welcome in! Tuesday. Oh, it's training camp Tuesday, man. Training camp Tuesday. It's a good sound. July 22nd. The year is 2025. And here we are, the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Mike, the fantasy hitman is here, Jason Moore. Present. Accounted for.

Mike has created a company, Slack Channel. That's right. Just for training camp highlight videos. Like, we've always had the issue of... Did I get invited? I mean, I posted it in the general chat and I said I made this. Oh, we gotta join it.

Everyone's invited. we gotta join it. Everyone's invited. We gotta join it. We're like, look, we like training camp pilots just like everybody else. As we try to, you know, be rational unless the priors are being confirmed. Yeah. Huge. Off to a great start. In half of them.

Yeah, well, that's what he does. That's what he does. But we never, we're like, I never. In half of them. Yeah, well, that's what he does. That's what he does. But we never knew where to share them. Because I'm taking over certain channels that are meant for specific discussion. I'm like, hey, check out this training camp highlight. I am now a member of Camp Highlights. Yeah, it's going to be great.

Because we're there. And so many are outlandishly stupid. Like, people are posting a video of like, someone doing, I know that's what's silly. It's more the analysis of them. I'm happy to watch anything that happens at Training Camp. It could be the most basic, you know, pitch and catch in the world,

but when the commentary is like. Was it the Jameson Williams one? Yeah, where Jameson Williams was like. She's been working on his route. Running on the route tree. Oh, he just caught a pass. Yeah, he just like literally turned around and got a pass, like you were playing

with your dad at a field. Yeah, it's great. It's, we're so excited for football that everything gets amplified this time of year. So it'll be really fun. We've got our final two divisional breakdown episodes today and Thursday. So NFC East today, NFC West on Thursday,

and then we'll be through all of them. That way we can offend almost every fan base over the course of eight shows. It's really the number one priority. We wanna make sure everybody just feels like. We put in work. We sit down at these team meetings and say, okay, who are we talking about today

and how can we make their fans really on that? I was gonna say, I guess technically eight fan bases like us if we pick them to win the division. Okay. And then the remaining whatever that is, 24 teams, you can hate us for the year. Sometimes, cause sometimes you try to say positive things. Like even pick them to win a division that people are,

why do you hate this team? Yeah, it's fun. Hmm. I don't think the Eagles fans are gonna be mad at us today. I'm just gonna take a guess. Or will they? They could be. I mean, there's good teams in that division. So NFC East today. Mailbag, if we have time for it, we'll get into some NFL news. Some things have happened. We'll catch you up on that. And as you heard at the top, the Ultimate

Draft Kit is available right now. If you want to dominate your 2025 fantasy drafts, it's available ultimatedraftkit.com. The UDK Plus comes with the draft analyzer, which you can import your team from any platform and get a grade as well as all of your league mates teams graded and compare your team to theirs. And there's a ton of resources you can learn more about at ultimate draft get dot com. We'll jump right into the news. News and notes from around the league. We already talked about Mike Williams retiring, right? Was that on the last episode?

Oh, yes, maybe. Probably because I think that's when you became huge. His biggest fan, potentially, Mike. We already talked about Mike Williams retiring, right? Was that on the last episode? Yes. Maybe? Probably because I think that's when you became QGIS biggest fan, potentially, Mike. Oh yeah, yeah. I just wanna make sure that that was brought up. Nobody has given me any, they have forgotten that show. Okay, we got one person nodding.

Yeah, we did talk about Mike Williams. I said yeah. I said yes. You weren't in the left side of my view. You're in the right side of my view. Sorry. Also, you're not really an authority on what we talked about during the last show.

Absolutely. That is very true. Well, here's some other news. The Seahawks have released Noah Fant. This was a money saving move. It's a moneymaker for Seattle, yes. So they save nine million against the cap. They had a fourth round draft pick, AJ Barner

out of Michigan last year, which did he did have a handful of good games produced on lower snap counts, better numbers than what Phant was doing. And then the big move, they have a 22 year old potential future star in Elijah Arroyo out of Miami that has shown enough, I think, in rookie practices to where the team felt comfortable with those two youngsters to save the money on Noah Fant. Yeah, I saw this as a, when the move was announced

that they were releasing Fant, I took it as a feather in the cap of Elijah Arroyo. They must have had this in the back of their mind when they took Arroyo and saying, well, we're planning for the future, Phant is in our future, and maybe if it turns out he's doing enough, we can let go of him now. He was the 50th overall selection in this year's draft, so you've got good draft capital. He was a big riser at the senior bowl this year. Yeah, so he spent a couple of years with knee injuries, and so if you watch the draft day,

or the post-draft press conference, obviously the GMs are always gonna tout up the guys that they just drafted, they obviously like him, but they were saying they felt like this was a guy who would have been a top 15 talent Yeah, he wasn't injured. I don't know what I trust out of Seattle. I think nothing based on that You know the Ken the Ken Walker stuff the Gino Smith comments mixed with the Darnold comments at the time But you're always going to spin things the right way, but this is confidence boost for a royal Did you guys like a rule? I didn't I didn't really like his film personally. I think Barnard more complete tight end

I think Barnard will be I think if you look at the end of the year, who has more snaps in the offense, I think Barner will have more snaps. I think Arroyo will have more production. I think he's the wide receiver-esque type of athletic, big play, but Barner may see more snaps on a week through the season. Yeah, if you look at like NFL.com's draft profile

of A.J. Barner, the first synopsis is a good inline blocker, not going to be a pass catcher. Although he did some last year as a rookie. Wild to see Elijah Arroyo. So 50th, I mean, so second round pick. Four years of college, and he amassed 46 receptions. But that was the two missed years. and he amassed 46 receptions. But that was the two missed years. And then most of his production, like if you look,

so AJ Barner had more receptions in college than Arroyo. However, those were spread out. I don't think AJ Barner ever had 250 yards in a season. He wasn't really a pass catcher. The last season for Arroyo was like his breakout where he had a 73 yard touchdown, a 40 yard touchdown. 35 for 590 and seven. I mean, for a college tight end, that's not too bad.

All right, well that's the new lay of the land at tight end in Seattle. We have a handful of players placed on the PUP list to begin training camp, including Brandon Iyuk, recovering from ACL, MCL, Ricky Pearsall, with another hamstring issue. It doesn't sound as gloom and doom, the Ricky Pearsall stuff, at least from what I'm hearing, that he could make his way off of the... and this is training camp, Pups. You can get pulled off it at any moment,

as soon as you're ready to go. But it's, I mean, hamstring injuries, as if you stick around the show, we will be talking about them because they will pop up. And when those happen in training camp, it is usually a really, really big red flag. There are players that don't need camp as much as other players.

To me, Piersal would have been one you'd love to see get every single possible snap to try to establish himself. So it's disappointing to me that he's starting out on PUP. And this wide receiver core has been, has just been through it injury wise for years now. But, Juwan Jennings has a lot of leverage at the moment. He does. So no Debo, no Ayuk, no Pearsall as of right now.

Christian Watson, Packers wide out is going to start on the PUP as well. That's fully expected. But Stefan Diggs is not. Okay. Stefan Diggs of the Patriots. Yep. Okay. Which adds a little fuel to the, he seems like he can play football fire. I don't, I'm not a doctor,

but I don't understand how he's not out there week one. All right, that's where I'm at too. That's where I'm at right now. Chris Godwin will not participate in team activities when camp begins. Continuing rehab, had an ankle fracture and dislocation in week seven, signed the big contract, usually a six to nine month

recovery and a ramp up. We know his recovery from the ACL a couple years ago was slow and not what we wanted, so. You mentioned recently when we were going through the Buccaneers. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. That Chris Godwin is off your board. You were choked up, you were sad.

I was moved. You were really sad about that. I was moved by your... Oh, based on the price of Chris Godwin in the draft. Yeah. Yes, I was, I did not like it. I did not like that situation because his little burst of hyper productivity came under a different offensive coordinator

in a small amount of time. I moved Egbuka up off of this, not out of control, but Egbuka is so interesting. This was of a prospect out of Ohio State. Look, when a wide receiver comes from Ohio or from LSU, I'm going to pay more attention to that player just because of the history of success of those guys. But a first-round pick for a team that didn't seemingly need to do that, that felt like this is the best guy on our board, so we're just gonna take him. So I just make sure we don't leave him for nothing in the draft.

And then Will Levis undergoing season-ending shoulder surgery. Mike, Mike, did you not know this? I did. It's quite the laugh for an injury. I am not laughing at Will Levis being hurt. I am laughing at the timing of this. Just it's a little strange, guys. When a team, like we got the number one overall pick, it's a little strange, guys.

When a team, like, we got the number one overall pick, it's a quarterback, and then, so you're the backup. You are not getting in, you're just like, ah, I'm gonna recover and focus on next year. Make sure you pay me while I'm recovering and rehabbing, but don't worry about it, I'll see you guys next year. That's what's funny to me. Yeah, he's gonna be out out and if Cam Ward misses time you will not have Will Lovis coming in behind him. Any other news that has come through, Jason?

Anything you want to talk about? Yeah, there was just more smoke to the Terry McCloren situation, saying that he is willing to, all options are on the table, whether he holds in, holds out, or requests a trade. Like he won't, he's not gonna be playing situation, saying that he is willing to, all options are on the table, whether he holds in, holds out, or requests a trade. Like, he won't, he's not going to be playing football without a new contract. He did, he did say he does not want to break the team up. He wants to bring them back together with a contract. Yeah.

I thought you were going to break the news that Mike now has the toilet trophy. Oh, that's great news. I do. I thought that was going to be the breaking news this morning. I do. The rules seem to have been skimped on a little bit. We were all ready to record, sitting here with a time and everyone sitting here ready to go. Jason's had this trophy for so long. And we couldn't push that button. Yeah, no.

Because you was on a toilet. Yeah, that part is true. Boom! Toilet trophy. Just saying. Jason's, yeah. Be careful careful the games that you choose to play I will play them I want you to play a man I want you to let out of this I don't want anything to do with our work environment is gonna be just a nightmare we're gonna be sitting and also ready to go at all times I what the pressure for me I might just hold on to this bad dog. Because sometimes we come up to the end of the show and we're like, let's speed this

up. I'm just going to leave. Time out guys. Why don't you sit here, wait a good 15 minutes. He's a little fiery already. Because I have nothing to lose at this point. That's too much pride in the toilet trophy. No, no, it's just, it's power. Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean, you two are... I'll be rid of this by the end of the week. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. The deucers have been supplementing with different drugs,

guaranteeing that they don't receive that toilet trophy. Be careful what you eat this week, guys. Oh, boy. All right, let's jump right in. Let's get divisional. All right if you have not tuned in a reminder we're looking at offseason changes and upgrades, downgrades, player wise, rookies, coaches. we're looking at team offenses, how they could function, and give our takes at the end here,

who we think's gonna win the division. Jason made the very presumptive, like, well, all Eagles fans are gonna be happy, we're just gonna pick you to win the division. But Jason's the chalk guy, so that makes sense. The Eagles. Yes, yes, just so you know, by the end of this this episode I will be the only one picking the Eagles to win the division You're right Eagles were 14 and 3 the commanders 12 and 5 fiery today and

Dallas was 7 and 10 last year the Giants 3 and 14. There was a 302 point differential from first to fourth and That's two point differential from first to fourth. And, um, that's, that's a lot, but things change year over year. And we'll start with Philadelphia. The odds going into last year, very tight between Philadelphia and Dallas. Philly was plus a hundred. Dallas was plus one 50. The commander's way down at plus 800 and the Giants at the bottom.

So you know the Eagles 14-3 won a Super Bowl 8-2-1 score games. Their win total going into last year was 10-1-2. Vegas gave them that. They won 14 this year. It's at 11-1-2. According to our friend Warren Sharp, they have the fourth hardest schedule for 2025. But, you know, it was their year. They're the champs.

Yeah, you guys saw the new rings that they got, the championship rings. Those things are absurd. Like they're- Are you worried that they're gonna break, you know, those little wings come out and- Yeah, it did feel- You push the button and some wings pop out of the ring.

The little wing pop out felt cheap. Oh yeah, like a gadget? Like a gimmick on a Super Bowl ring. Like something you find in a cereal box? Yeah. I thought they were kinda cool. Okay, I mean, I would take one. I mean, the rings are not, they're almost,

they're so close to not rings, you know what I mean? They're so humongous. Yeah, they're borderline helmets that just go on the. Right, they're just gigantic. But yeah, that's enough AML for the Eagles fans to hate us, that we kind of talked about the rings negatively. But last year, 15 points per game, eighth in total yards per game, but the defense,

you know, the defense was number one in total yards given up in terms of, they gave up the least, and the gap between what they gave up in the second place team was the largest gap in the last decade. So Houston was number two in Total Yard's given up. But Philly was number one and it really, their defense just. They're so good.

It just solidified. It wasn't that way at the very, very beginning of the year. But it happened really quickly. They invested in young corners and secondary pieces and they just really dictated terms the rest of the way, all the way into the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean they got two incredible rookie secondary members that I mean that took them to the Super Bowl so obviously they got better as time went on and you would think that their defense could even get

better this year going into year two for for those players. I think the Eagles have the best roster on both sides the ball of the entire NFL personally and I love that they have a hard strength of schedule because one of the most frustrating things last year with this great team especially down the stretch was that you from the passing game you'd get a half you know I if you had Jalen Hurts if you had AJ Brown or Devante Smith it was like you get off to a strong start, you feel like, oh, I'm going to crush this week. And then it was just Saquon the whole second half because they had 160 point differential this last

year. So I'm hoping they're in a little bit more difficult games, other teams that can keep up with them. Obviously Dallas, if DAC is there, that will be helpful to not have to play DAC-less football twice a year. You know, they play Kansas City this year. So they've got some teams that I think can score on them. They were, just to kind of put numbers around that, Jay, they were the number one rushing team in terms of rushing percentage and dead last in passing. So from a, you know, and you love their defense, I love their defense, they're number one in my,

in the UDK, their defense is number one for me. And that does, I mean, we've had this conversation with several teams that have good defenses, whether it's Detroit getting injured players back, or they just lost a defensive tackle for the year. The Chiefs. The Chiefs, yeah, like when you have that situation that you can win on defense and by running the football,

which look, the Chiefs, they can't necessarily win by running the football. Sometimes they run through the air. They're running back pieces, it's not Saquon. Right now, going into the season, they just won a Super Bowl with this recipe. And this recipe should be what they're doing in the future. Yes, they replaced their offensive coordinator, but Patulo wants to do the exact same thing. He's been with Sirianni for years. If I'm Philadelphia,

I am certainly not changing what I'm doing on offense unless I'm forced to do it, which is what you're saying with some of the schedule stuff, but at the same time, predictability-wise, I'm going in expecting a heavy dose of Saquon, tush push, picking my spots in the passing game when I need them, and so that's kind of the gamble with AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, and Jalen Hurts in general is the wide receiver utilization when you pass the least in football, it's not as attractive in drafts.

Like, Devontae Smith's kind of more attractive because the value on him seems to be there. But A.J. Brown's the one that's harder for people to move up into the upper echelon and give him his, like, as a talent, he belongs in the same conversation with Amon Ra and these guys, but as a piece of this offense, the volume, it does make you hesitate at times. It does, where he's being drafted,

like I don't blame anyone for where he's going in the draft. He is usually like that next best wide receiver off the board, but you can see the path for what happened down the stretch, where you just have a lot of disappearing games, and obviously his talent is- And we got numbers there from Rich Rebar. 2.5 targets per game in the second half of seasons.

Dude, that's exactly, come on, other teams, be better. But five in the first half, which was like fifth. So his first half target's great, second half, you don't need to. 32 total targets in the second half. Malik neighbors who was trailing in almost every game, 98. I will say this, I would rather have a player who is part of the reason they don't need to pass

in the second half. Yeah. You know, it's like a lot of times in former years, I should say, we don't do this that much anymore as an industry, but it used to be like, oh, you want the garbage time, or you think that garbage time players are bad. But it's like if your team is scoring points to get to the point where you're doing this, then yeah, maybe AJ Brown had a hundred and a touchdown in the first half, and you're

disappointed in the second half that you didn't get more. But he's a great player. a hundred and a touchdown in the first half and you're disappointed in the second half that you didn't get more but he You know, he's a great player and then obviously if with either of these guys with AJ Brown with Devontae Smith if Either one go down to an injury the other becomes so valuable they if you're I mean they were in the Super Bowl two years ago and 14 and 3 that season as well It they had a little bit of a regression into second place in the East, 11 and six lost in the wild card.

You know, they, the teams are going to have that game circled everyone on their calendar. So in that regard, you know, what they did last year was like a historically low pass rate. Yes. It was like the third lowest in the last 10 years. So at least you could expect it to flip a little bit. Um, also that comes part and parcel with they got they were very fortunate injury wise last year like Saquon Barkley Super Bowl winners generally are I mean they mean Super Bowl Super Bowl Barkley had 378 carries

in the regular season and 104 more in the playoffs so I think that's the the the question now is what what are you doing with Saquon Barkley? And no, this is not a bypassing Barkley by any means. This is a, let's say you're at the 102 and Jamar Chase goes off. Like, are you actively seeking Saquon Barkley or are you just, when you're slotted for him, because he's right now is at the 103,

but some people want Bijon, and some people want Barclay. If you have the choice between the two of them, is it a definitive I'm going Bijon, or I'm going Saquon Barclay? For me, it's a definitive Bijon. Well, that's because he's Superman now. He can't get injured this coming season, but yeah, I mean, the workload of Saquon is both awesome and awful.

It's what you dream of for fantasy, and if he can handle that another year in a row, then he should be the first running back picked. The numbers say, sorry, did you want to add something? I was just going to say, but when you have that level of volume, the chances that you're going to play a full season the next year is, you know, it goes down, especially for an older running back. It's not like he's, you know, he's a 24-year-old back coming off of, you know, 350 carries. This is, you know, he's 28. He's 28 and a half. So historically speaking since 2020 10 running backs have seen 330 or more touches in a season. Saquon saw 378. All saw a decrease of at least 45 or more touches the following year and only two played a full season. So two of the 10 played a full season. So that's what you have.

Look it's really this is what makes draft season so difficult because you always have to come face to face with what you should do based on last year and taking a leap on what you expect to happen this year. Bijan is my number one, I would take him, but it's not gonna feel cozy. Like bypassing Saquon will not feel good. That's what I mean. Because you are only- Are you just taking him when you're slotted? There's just no way that you don't feel but it's not gonna feel cozy. Like bypassing Saquon will not feel good. That's what I mean.

Because you are only. Because you are only. When you're slotted. There's just no way that you don't feel like you could be missing out on what he did last year, which you could be. You absolutely could be. So.

Which are what, 2,000 rushing yards? Yeah, and he could have broken the record. Now is this you petitioning the crowd for your 101 in our league of record draft? What? Where you have Saquon, Barclay, and Bichon decision? I do, I mean, thankfully I have my number one

running back already, as one of my keepers. Which is Christian McChasarine. Okay. So I don't have to decide who the number one is, but I have to figure out who the number two is. You get to throw out CMC and one of those two guys on your team. Yeah. I will say based based on this specific conversation,

end of drafts, personally, I am targeting Will Shipley. That appears to be the primary backup. Kenneth Gainwell is gone. You think it'll be a Shipley over AJ Dillon? Beat reporters right now are saying AJ Dillon's not even a lock to make the roster. And if he is on the roster, I don't think, I think he's going to be more of a specialist.

So. By the way, both times McCaffrey was the number one quarterback, he was injured the following year. Running back. Yeah, running back. In his two adventures to the tippy top. Yeah, the Will Shipley versus A.J. Dillon, that's tough for me.

I liked Will Shipley, the prospect, but 5'11", 209, fourth round pick. I don't know, not sure how that will actually shake out. He had a nice long playoff run. Is that worth something? Nope. All right, so we've talked about the wide outs, we've talked about the running back situation,

laid it out there, I mean, Saquon was unbelievable. The offensive line is still number one in the league, so everything's in front of him, if he stays healthy, he should be insanely productive, and it's, you know, I'm not actively trying to avoid him by any means, it's just, like I take Saquon over Gibbs. Me too. Like that's happening, so he's just a one, two decision.

Jalen Hurts, right now going as the QB four in the fourth round. Which I think is decent value. To me, I look at Lamar as the number one quarterback, and then Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and even Jaden Daniels to me are all about the same. Dallas got her still on the team. Somehow, someway.

And they start the year Dallas, at home against Dallas, that's fun. Then at Kansas City, then the Rams, then Tampa. That is, that is four brutal. Fourth hardest schedule on the entire season, so that makes sense. Three division winners and then Dallas. That's what you want. That's what you want when you're this good of a team. You need teams that can challenge them. So right now they are the favorites to repeat as NFC champions and slightly behind the Bills and my pick the Ravens for the Super Bowl.

All right we'll take a break and talk commanders. All right back into our NFC East divisional breakdown. The Washington commanders were the surprise story of the last season. Eight more games than they had won in 2023. They went into the year projected to win six and a half. They won 12. It's the second largest year-to-year jump over the last decade, but only one of the 12 regular season wins came against the playoff team and we've kind of talked about the fact that they had a really juicy schedule. It was a nice situation for last year. Yeah, last year for the commanders to, you know, for for Jayden Daniels to have his coming out

party. It was a nice schedule for that. In fact, if you remember, like, they beat, I think they beat Cincinnati and Borough in week three. Like that was one of their big games when Jaden Daniels kind of center staged it and they were eight and four and one score games. They're middle of the pack in schedule difficulty this year, 14th hardest. You know, I think this team is really, really interesting to talk about in general because, you know, I think this team is really, really interesting to talk about in general because you know, we all love Jaden Daniels and I actually think like, I think Jaden Daniels is appropriately priced in fantasy, despite the fact he is being drafted higher than any

other sophomore quarterback in history. But if you look at the names, if you want to talk about what's happened with these rookie quarterbacks that have had breakout campaigns and then you go into that sophomore season, our most recent history is frustration with CJ Stroud. But you go back years before and if you don't, you know, if you're not looking at like injuries, Kyler Murray jumped from number five to number two, Herbert from seven to two, Lamar Jackson from 11 to one, Jalen Hurts from 12 to nine. Like it was a better than where you drafted them outcome

for the guys that you truly believe to be special difference makers who ran the football. Those guys could run. And so to me, I don't have any problem with him priced as the QB3 at 305 because he's one of the few that could be number one. Yeah, to me that whole group that I just mentioned with Jalen Hurts, I could take him in any order. So, you know, Burrow is interesting because he's not a mobile rushing quarterback. You know, last year, Jaden Daniels had a very special year on an extremely easy schedule.

And so he finished as the quarterback five. So now you're expecting, when you're drafting him as the third, you are expecting him to go north. But I think the best comp there, and this was a comp we talked about going into rookie year, is Kyler Murray. He's playing with the same head coach or the offensive coach that Kyler had in his rookie season and his sophomore season. So a jump up, totally not going to be surprising.

I will point out that while the regular season schedule was easy, they did win two road playoff games. They beat Tampa where J. Daniels was 268 and 2, 36 yards on the ground. They beat Detroit on the road, 299 and 2, 51 yards on the ground. They beat Detroit on the road 299 and 251 yards on the ground. Kind of got, I mean, the final score of the Philadelphia game turned into a shellacking. But Jayden was like, I think he really is the truth. And I want to point out something I've mentioned probably a couple months ago. From the midpoint of the season, this passing offense, Jaden Daniels passing numbers,

he was on pace for 4,000 passing yards and 36 passing touchdowns. So if you, you know, and it makes sense that it would have come along a little slower on that front when he has the tools that he has in the running game. He's just a very, very capable, you know, he was the number one overall quarterback on a week that played Philadelphia in that defense that we just talked about. Number one.

That's the argument for why you would take him over Jalen Hurts, even over Josh Allen. Like, these guys, you know what Jalen Hurts is. Jalen Hurts is gonna be a top five quarterback unless he's injured. He's going to be very consistent, but he's not gonna go out there and absolutely be the one where at the end of the year you go, oh, I had that was the I had the 20-25 Jalen hurts

So obviously I was one of the people that just won the championship like a couple years ago when Christian McCaffrey was in 50% of all, you know Lamar Jackson can do that And that's what you're hoping here with with Jay Daniels is that you just haven't even seen his true upside So if you're taking an early quarterback, I think that's why you're saying you don't have any problem with taking him as the quarterback three because there is a chance that he is a runaway quarterback one ahead of everyone.

Unless Terry McLaurin doesn't play. If Terry McLaurin is removed from the equation, which right now, look I expect them to figure that out. I really do. That team. They can't afford not to. This is not the Snyder commanders anymore. This is a different organization.

I can't imagine the momentum that they have that they don't get Terry McLaurin, a leader in the locker room on the field. But it's not right now, and at some point, you will worry about it. I'm not worried about it on July 22nd, but eventually I will be. Yeah. And that's a variable in place for Jayden Daniels that isn't there for somebody else. But, you know, they added Debo to the offense.

I mean, that was the big off season offensive edition. So if you do have McLaurin back and you add Deebo and you still brought back Ertz and you have, go ahead, the senator, Ben Sennett at tight end, available if needed and you've got really talented pass-catching running back in Austin Eckler and capable running back Brian Robinson like... I thought you were pointing at me for Eckler. Would you like me to? Well I just, just the thank you for thank you for pointing. Yes. So it's now my turn to talk. It's the there are

certain teams you attack who are not having their running backs drafted in the top 24. These are the real ambiguous. They're often unsexy picks but this is a team that's going to score so so many points I mean where were they in there were sixth in points per game last year and fifth in yards and they only passed the ball they did not pass it over the course of the season very much they were like the fifth lowest and you have so you have Bryan Robinson jr. going in like outside of the top 30 running backs and he had 42 carries inside the 20

you have Austin Eckler who again he's old he's 30 years old for a running back that is very old however among running backs with a hundred or more touches he led all of them in yards per touch like he still had some juice especially in the receiving game so that this I, if I have multiple leagues, I'm taking multiple chances on this backfield. Some teams I'll take Robinson, and then other ones I'll wait on Eckler. I think if I only am taking one,

I think Eckler's the guy I wanna take the chance on, just in case of the defense is a little bit worse and this offense has to put up points, and they're gonna get Eckler on the field, but both of them are worthy picks at their ADP. With the exception of, I would prefer to have the 26-year-old touchdown, I would rather have Brian Robinson over Eckler.

That being said, I completely echo everything you're saying. Everybody should be taking one of these. You echolur it. Oh, okay. It was popping into my head, I just let it go. You should be taking one of these guys. They don't cost you much. Yeah.

And every year you want to try and pick. Their price wouldn't be this price if they weren't both on this team either. It's like a combination of feeling a little bit like it's a couple of unsexy players, but they're on a really talented offense. I mean, Brian Robinson finished as the running back 29 last year, missed a handful of games. He's being drafted outside of that. Yeah. Yeah. 42 carries inside the 20. Same as Chuba Hubbard. Seven touchdowns inside the 10. same as Jonathan Taylor. And remember, Cliff Kingsbury knows one play when you get down to that goal line.

Run up the middle. Run up the middle, that's not gonna be Austin Eckler, that's gonna be Brian Robbins. Like Eckler's game log, I mean, it seemed like things were really starting to get moving and then he missed an entire month there towards the end of the year, so which, that's a danger of him being a

30 year old running back but both of those guys are fascinating at ADP. 7-4-5-5-4. Those are numbers. Those are the touchdown numbers of Terry McLaurin before last season. 13 was what he put up with Jaden Daniels. Do we... We need more volume though. Do we worry? I mean we brought it up but this is your team overview. McLaurin is one of the most obvious regression candidates when it comes to total touchdowns. So if he doesn't get more volume, if he's there and he doesn't get more volume, 13 is a tough number to match especially just his you know adding Debo to the offense

and everything. So McLaurin is one of 10 wide receivers since 2000 with 13 or more receiving touchdowns with fewer than 125 targets. That's what we're talking about. We need more volume. The list of guys that you have the next season data on, they, there's one year where Mike Evans improved in touchdowns the next year.

Everybody else lost touchdowns and a lot of them, like a catastrophic amount of touchdowns. If you had to lock Debo or Eckler into your flex for the season. Interesting. In this offense. Oh man. Would you lock in eighth round pick Debo Samuel? I would go with Eckler. Debo is so difficult,

having, like watching him last year was difficult. So that's where I'm concerned of is Debo are we done? Like career lows and yards after the catch? Can he get back to anything that he was because he was he was a special player because of his yards after catch and like he wasn't out there just you know the tactician roasting people, making defenders fall over, he's just like, you can't tackle me, because I'm Deebo. But if that superpower is gone, which the 49ers at least,

yeah, exactly. Yeah, mm-hmm. I mean, the 49ers were like, he's not worth it. He kinda got phased out of the offense too. When those big bodied, you know, hulking wide receivers who are dominant and great when they hit that wall, you know, Andre Johnson was the best wide receiver in football.

And then the next year is like, oh, he lost the step and he's not good anymore. Anquan did. Anquan Bolden forever. Oh, Anquan Bolden, I mean, that is the comp for Deebo. That is a real man. So where do you stand on that? Would you rather?

Deebo just doesn't feel like a wide receiver that will be on any of my teams in any situation. I just don't see the upside. They don't pass it enough. I was gonna say the volume, the volume's not gonna be there for him. And honestly, I feel like Terry McLoran's not going to be on a lot of my teams simply because the touch-to-it stuff-

Good Lord, the game log for Deebo is so much worse than I remember. Oh. A lot of red? How about this? Okay, so after their bi-week, week nine, week 10, 10 fantasy points. That's pretty good. That's okay. Four, two and a half, two, good. That's okay. 4, 2.5, 2, 4.5, 3.5. Huge

game against Miami and these are like he's playing in all of these games. Oh man. No, I'm with you Andy. I don't. You know what? I just don't. Unless you're in a league. Why wouldn't I want to take something with higher upside in the eighth round? That's all I'm saying. If your league is just like, we're not really interested in Debo, and he's dropping into a double digit round, okay, I'll take a chance, but I very hesitate. What's funny about Terry McLaurin,

he was an A in consistency, but he was so freaking lucky last year. Like, the touchdowns, we know that that was a large percentage of his famous points, but they just happened to come in the weirdest ways. He would have a game with 125 yards, no touchdowns. So it was a good fantasy game. Then he'd have a game with 19 yards, two touchdowns. All of his touchdowns came in these small yardage games, so he looks really consistent. But actually, if you look like the volume and the yardage just yardage he was he was not very consistent so I worry about both of these guys where they're being drafted

despite liking the offense. Yeah it sucks because it always feels when you're in the draft it feels disrespectful to Terry McLaurin for what he did yeah but this is this is fantasy realities versus NFL realities like this team is not gonna succeed without him but for fantasy purposes it's really hard. But your fantasy team can. Yeah, your fantasy team can. So Dallas was seven and 10, it was a hugely disappointing season overall.

They were projected to win 10 games, they won seven, they had the worst point differential by a Cowboys team since 1989. And yeah, their deck. That's a while, their deck was gone. Oh, no deck. Oh boy. That's gonna hurt. I mean, two years ago when we were doing this show last year, I mean you talked about it with the Eagles at the top of this segment, but it was anybody's division. The Eagles and the Cowboys were seen as just a coin flip. And I feel like we are not giving the Cowboys enough credit simply because we saw how bad they were

without their quarterback last year. But I mean that's- Without looking, do you know their win totals? I do not. I'd love to know if you could just guess them. I would guess- Your 2025 Dallas win total. Nine and a half would be my guess. I'll go eight and a half. Yeah, you're both wrong. Oh, are we too low? Too high? You're too high. What?

Unless this has been changed, it's seven and a half is what I have. Kyle, is that right? Seven and a half. Seven and a half. There was seven games last year. This is a... As a starter, a full-time starter, Dak was three and four last year. And this is a team that a team that I mean look you look at the offseason additions. They don't impress you George Pickens. Yeah, okay cool when I like you added a good meeting him then you added John two wings of Miles Sanders Okay, all right. Well neat but that makes for fantasy that makes me love these wide receivers I'm Vegas and I'm looking at this and I want to justify seven and a half and why I got there, you got a new head coach,

Brian Schottenheimer, never been a head coach. You've got Dak, who is frequently injured, right? It's happened. You've got a defense that regressed massively. I mean, just, they were terrible. They were one of the worst in the league. You lost Zach Martin. And you lost Zach Martin, and now you have a division that's suddenly,

hello, Jaden Daniels, future what, perennial MVP candidate potentially, Washington the 112 games, like, you gotta face Philly twice and Washington twice in this division, like, it's just, I can see it, I understand it. We got Jerry Jones taking pot shots at Micah Parsons. Jerry Jones is very old, Mike.

I know, but this. Very, very. But I have to bring it up because it was so incredible. Dementia ridden. Of, they're talking about re-signing him, and he's like, well even if we sign him, I don't know if we're gonna have him. Because of, indict the injuries?

Yeah, because he got hurt. And then we got, hold on. Then we got a JJ watt tweet oh yeah who said JJ watt anytime you could publicly take a dig at your star quarterback and your star pass rush or simultaneously right before the season begins you gotta take it nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while fighting for you look That got retweeted by somebody. Yeah, that was the story. That got retweeted by Micah Parsons.

Oh man, it's, oh. I think Parsons will get his contract, but it's just, it's every single year, every year we do this with Jerry Jones and timing things. I do not like Dallas with Dak better than Washington. I do not like Dallas with Dak better than Philadelphia. I do not like Dallas with DAC better than Philadelphia. And then you're like, what is the third place team

in this division finished with? And it's not that Dallas can't bounce back, but sometimes things, sometimes ships have sailed with the situation that you're in. They're not gonna compete with a defense that is 31st in points per game allowed and 28th in total yards, nor should they have that same defense, but it's just.

I would agree completely from an NFL standpoint. But from a fantasy football standpoint, this is awesome. This is what you want. You want a bad defense. I'm so glad that the Cowboys defense isn't this juggernaut it used to be. And I love that it's like we could have enjoyed the fantasy goodness of the running game. I don't, I still bypass, like every ADP time

I'm looking at Javante Williams, I'm like, nah. And you really, we should be taking shots on him. Yes, we should. Because right now the other guys there, the backups, the rookies, they're not getting any mention. So I think Javante's gonna do what he did last year, which is get a ton of work as the lead for his team, but probably not be that great.

But the nice thing is that means that Dak is going to have to throw the ball a ton. CD Lamb should be back to being in the running for wide receiver one this year. And George, I think there's a chance George is one of the best picks in fantasy this year. I do too. I just feel like the Dallas Cowboys compared to other teams are much more of a house of cards. That you know we've had times

we've talked about Matthew Stafford with the Rams, how much hinges on his health. You have an offensive line that's 23rd going into the season, ranked 23. By the way that's up from where they finished, which was 25, and no running game. So no running game, no offensive line, and Dak's supposed to be your savior. I'm not sure the team doesn't wanna move on from Dak. Like this could fall apart quick is what I'm saying.

You got a potential like one and done head coach. Like Dallas, this could be one of the most disappointing situations in fantasy from a amount of resources that you actually have to lean on. For fantasy? Yes, for fantasy. Yeah, because if you, look, it's great to think, Dak's success came on the back of a good offensive line

and a good defense, being able to compete. I know that, is Dak going to be the Matt Ryan? Like the, like how is the offense gonna give the ball to the running game if they're trailing? And how is he gonna have success without an offensive line on a consistent basis? I don't think necessarily that the Cowboys are gonna have success from a wins and loss standpoint.

Well no, but the offensive line matters to Dak staying healthy. Sure, obviously, okay, if Dak goes down, CD Lamb's not gonna be the wide receiver one. But Dak went down last year and CD Lamb, I don't have in front of me, what was he, like the wide receiver eight? He was still a very good year.

He was still fantastic. So I'm just not worried about a guy who's gonna get 170 targets. And let's just say that Dak doesn't. I did not say I was worried about CD Lamb. I was saying that I think you're gonna be disappointed. You could be disappointed with everybody else on the entire team.

Dak, George, running game, defense. I'm very in on Dak and the two wide outs. And Andy, just to bring it up of the, because you know how Jerry Jones, so good at doing contracts, they're not getting rid of Dakini anytime soon unless they want to carry a $130 million dead cap, a $56 million dead cap. If you go to 2028, don't worry. We're down to 32 like this. They're stuck here because of how they treated his contract.

Obviously an injury means they move on. But right now he's not injured. So I like for fantasy the receiving game. I really do. And personally I like Dak because I do think that the other teams in this division are going to score a lot of points. What's the opening schedule?

I mean, Philly is week one and then who do we got? In Philly then the Giants then at Chicago then Green Bay. Oh I mean it's it's I mean it's okay I I do not think Dallas is gonna have a good year. Whatever that means for fantasy is is up for interpretation but I don't think that DAC success is going to translate to them having a lot of success on the field because they don't have the pieces. Ferguson was somebody people were looking forward to. The tight end situation's a question mark.

He was number one in red zone targets. Dak got hurt, maybe he can bounce back. I think Ferguson should bounce back. He's going in the 10th, not even a top 12 drafted tight end. Last year was pretty disastrous, but I mean over the first month you had a... Ferguson got hurt week one and then he came back he was tied in three, nine, ten, and then the team kind of...

He's as mad as it gets and I think the fact that there's a legit wide receiver too now will take some away from... It could. We did see a lot of Dak last year, right? Yeah, we saw seven full games. So we saw seven games. He was good for fantasy in three. Was that fair? Yep. And then ZD in that stretch was okay, but not amazing. I mean. I really think the holdout for ZD Lam affected stuff. Pretty good, pretty good. was okay, but not amazing.

I really think the holdout for ZD Lam affected stuff. Pretty good, pretty good. For him being his top two. Yeah, look, I'm just trying to eliminate the other side. Sure. Everything that has, let me be clear, when Dak has been healthy and ZD's been healthy, those two have combined for great fantasy numbers.

That should still happen because ZD gets it done with every quarterback. Yeah, and remember remember two years ago, in the first seven games for Dak, he only had two good games. And then finishes the quarterback three on the season because he was magma. You mean when I won the title?

Yeah, with Dak. And now you're just, now you hate him. It just feels like. No loyalty. Yeah, it turned your back on Dak. It feels a little bit like the Cowboys are trying to. An honorless man. They're trying to run the same thing out there and hope it works this time.

But while not paying certain people. Oh yeah. Yeah, their team has not gotten- Like their thousand yard rusher go. Their team has not gotten better over the last three seasons. The win total was surprising to me. All right, let's, we talked about how they start the season.

What do you think they start the season at? I think one and three. Oh, record wise? One and three. Give me the games again. I'm gonna go two and two. In Philly? Yep.

Home against the Giants. In Chicago, and then against Green Bay. At home. I'll go two and two. They start on one, go two and two. All right, here we go. One more break and we're talking about the amazing New York football giants.

Well, they went three and 14. Things are going really backwards for Brian Table in New York. Nine and seven in his first year, then six and 11, now three and 14. Can they get to a winless season? I'm not sure. They lost their last 10 games.

Can they get to a winless? Yeah, that's the, well you go from nine to six to three. Oh, okay, that's fair. I see what you're doing. I mean, they could do it. If these trends continue. Technically, maybe they go 0-16 and one. Maybe they could get a tie in there.

They lost their last 10 games. They traded Daniel Jones away. Drew Locke started five games for them. Tommy DeVito started two. Tim Boyle started or appeared in three different games. Those DeVito games, electric. They were pretty much the worst offensive team in football. 15 total passing touchdowns on the year.

There was one worse, man. There was one worse team? Yeah. And points per game anyways. By the way, that was 15 passing touchdowns on the year for the second year in a row. Phew. So.

It's okay. They fixed it. It's a Russell Wilson led, eventually Jackson Dart led offense going into this season. Unlimited diarrhea. With an incredibly difficult schedule, by the way, the worst. That's what? The hardest schedule in football. That's just mean. That is, man, the NFLs. Including six games against the Division Mates we just talked about. Yeah, that's fair.

So nobody's probably on the hot seat more than Brian Dable. Now if they win the game of Jackson Dart, that draft pick, they'll have a future. They are currently favored in one game. One game. Against who? New Orleans in New Orleans by one and a half. How's

that feel in week five? How's that feel New Orleans? Saints fans are like, oh at least they're not gonna hate on my team this episode. Just catching some strings. Oh man. I'm so sorry. Yeah they don't have their bye week until week 14 either so it could be... look it's tough because we all love Malik neighbors, the talent, the ability, the fact that he made so much out of so little last year. But man, it looks rough. It really does. It looks rough in New York. Their defense was bottom third. Their offense was one of the worst in the league. I do like Brian Dable. I do think he's a good coach, but I think I've thought that about a handful of Giants coaches over the years,

that just, it wears on you. You know how the president looks different? Yeah. From when they start the presidency, until then you see Obama after his presidency and he looks about 30 years older? Uh-huh. That's about Brian Dable, man.

He's putting the weight back on. Oh, is he? Oh, he was doing so good. I think, I mean, he won more games with more weight. Yeah, but I think he wasn't on a diet. That was pure stress. He's been shaving wins right off of his, off the scale. Yeah, I mean, really from a fantasy standpoint,

we're all excited about Malik Nabors. You know he's going to get the ball. You know, 30% of every pass is going to go to Malik Neighbors. That's outstanding. When you get the ball in the hands of a player as talented as him, great things happen. Breakaway touchdowns. Fantasy-wise, he's going to be great. Everyone else, like, I love Kam Skadabu. I know, Mike, you do too. I believe he can succeed in the NFL. But can he succeed in the NFL in a committee

on a team that is going to maybe be the worst team in the NFL? Probably not. The odds are very against him. And he also, Tyrone Tracy had, I mean he was another day three running back, but he had himself a decent year, a decent enough year that I would think Scadaboo has to overtake him.

If you look back at the teams with the worst record and what their running back fantasy points rank was among the rest of the league, last year there were three teams tied with the worst record. They were 32nd, 29th, and 25th in total fantasy points of the running back. The year before, 30th. The year before, 31st.

31st, 25th, 29th, 29th. Like you're going- The math doesn't math for a good player. No, you're not going to have a lot of fantasy value in this backfield this season. What is it, then ask the question of is there, with the, you have, there is hope. There is a, at least, I don't know if it's real hope

or just manufactured, you have a first round quarterback that will take over sooner than later. Is there any chance that Jackson Dart comes in and this team is not the like not right 30 second in scoring all the sudden you're like hey they're you know they're low 20s of scoring Andy is there any chance okay no honestly if I was in New York I would not put him on the field this year I agree come I would not put him on the field. Brian Dable is gonna have no choice he might not be around

coach I mean well that's what I'm saying. He's gonna be interim. But week five or six. He's gonna have to Hail Mary put the guy in. Are they gonna win at Washington in week one? No, I don't think so. Are they gonna win at Dallas in week two? I don't think so.

Are they gonna win against Kansas City and LA, the Chargers? Certainly not. I mean, their first four games of the season are like- That's rude. They're honestly scary enough to be like, like right now, Malik Neighbors is ninth pick of the draft wide receiver six.

I like Malik Neighbors, I really do. Yeah, doesn't that go bad? I do worry about, like if I'm having to decide between two guys that have really close there, I want some upside. Jackson Dart does not represent some sort of special upside. Oh, but you know who does? James Winston, baby.

I agree with you. Do not put Jackson Dart out there this year. Why don't you play the long game, Giants. Have a couple stupid games with Russell Wilson, and be like, oh, this doesn't work. You'll figure that out soon. And then protect Jackson Dart and give fantasy goodness and put in Jameis Winston and then lo and behold, I will be throwing Darius Slayton into every single lineup I

have. Let's just, no one's going to want to hear this, so that's why I'm talking, because you guys can be mad at me. Yes. 170 targets, okay, from a league neighbors. Last year. Last year, and he had a stretch of games that he played all the snaps in,

where his weekly finishes were 43, 38, 29, 30, 26, 29, 26, 12, 32. Yeah, but they were really fine. I mean, I know those fantasy finishes aren't the number number five number six But though that's that was ten point you take a game From my from a first-round pick Yeah, I mean ten point four fantasy points nine point four eleven point three twelve point four not full PPR half PPR

You're not super excited. But I mean he missed two games and he was the wide receiver seven on the season I know I know that the targets are there But it's it's it would be it's a frightening weekly start Let's say Russell Wilson plays the first half of the season is that an upgrade or a downgrade from Daniel Jones neutral Mmm for a fantasy standpoint neutral. Okay, maybe worse. I think it's I think it's worse. Yeah, it might be worse Yeah, I don't know if Russ will hyper target. Yeah I don't know if they throw it as much either. Exactly I think they will not throw it as much. Garrett Wilson's time in the New York Jets has been maligned by fantasy players and like those

of us who still support Garrett Wilson it's's tough, you're like, I'm telling you, I promise you, the guy is just, he is good, but we keep drafting him and we keep failing. Now, obviously, Nevers finishes at the wide receiver seven, a 32 point game, which is, that's part of the Malik Nevers experience, is you can get a bunch of 12s, and then you're gonna get some 25, some 32 point games, which not

every wide receiver can do that. He's amazing he's an amazing player we have him at six and seven yeah but I don't think that that's and he's being drafted at what six? When you look at him, let me ask you this way because the only thing worth talking about in this team right now is Malik neighbors when you look at him Brian Thomas jr. and you look at him and Brian Thomas Jr. and you see both sides of the coin for each player, how do you make that decision? Yeah.

Yeah, it's really tough. Malik Neighbors was obviously drafted ahead of him. Mike just agreed that it was hard. He did not answer. No, because I don't have it. Yeah, I know, I know. My momma told me, if I don't have something to say, don't say it.

Yeah. It's... I feel like if these two gentlemen did exactly what they did the rookie year, and were in the exact same position that they are in, okay, everything is 100%... What is real right now, if only one thing changed, which is in the NFL draft, Brian Thomas Jr. was drafted ahead of Malik Neighbors. I think in fantasy drafts, Bryan Thomas Jr. would be easily the guy that's being drafted ahead. It's weird because it's like, is it unfair to Bryan Thomas Jr. that I still believe Malik Neighbors is more talented?

Because I think he is. I think Malik Neighbors brings more to the table. I don't think that's unfair. Like if you were doing the Madden toggles on all the different stats, there's more on neighbors side. I would agree with that. I mean, Brian Thomas played every game and ended with 1,282 yards. Malik missed two and ended up with 1,204 yards.

Yep. Yeah, it's going to be rough. But if I were Brian Thomas, I would be calling my friend Malik Neighbors daily to remind him that I had a better year. Yep, you would, you would. You really would. Jason will call you tonight

and remind you you have the toilet trophy. I will. Who wins the division? Give me your order. The Giants. We've got the NFC East. We're wrapping up the divisional breakdown. Who's gonna do it?

I will do it. You'll do it? Yeah. Okay. Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants. Yeah, that wasn't what I was saying. I was saying who's gonna do it and not do the obvious,

I mean that's. Well, you didn't use those words, you just said who's gonna do it, so I jumped in. All right, I got my picks in first. Why don't you put your dac where your mouth is. Who's gonna, oh, oh! Well! And rank the Cowboys a little higher Jason.

Oh okay, yeah that's so funny. Who's gonna copy me? It's a common expression. Yeah. I'm copying you. I'll copy. I have your exact same order. I'm not gonna copy you, I'm gonna copy Andy.

Oh. So all that talk in Dallas is still third. It's a copy of a copy. I guess all that talk was backing up their fantasy, not their reality. Yes, yes. And it's been a multiplicity situation. I wanted to put the Giants above Dallas, but man, they got the worst schedule in football.

I can't do that, I can't do that. I think Dallas will be. Dallas has a quarterback. Just okay. And I think the Giants will be bad. Dallas has a quarterback. All right, right now the odds are Philly minus 130, Washington plus 205, Dallas plus 550, and the Giants, you could win a lot of money

if they win the division. One more division left, the NFC West on Thursday, the Rams 49ers, Seahawks, and Cardinals. We got mailbag shows coming up, we got another mock draft episode, we've got unsolved mysteries, and we got a few other secret projects we're working on here at Footballers headquarters as well. So top secret. Top secret. Yeah,

not bottom secret. No, everyone those are just out there. All right, that'll do it. UltimateDraftKid.com. Go check that out right now. Make sure you can win on draft day The community is join the foot comm shout out to the foot clan. Thank you for your support We'll talk to you next time. Goodbye Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast Join our fantasy football community on join the foot comm and follow us on Twitter at The FF Ballers.