Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - NFC South Breakdown + Sweaty Hot Takes - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/22

Episode Date: July 22, 2023

Buccaneers, Panthers, Saints, Falcons! NFC South preview on today’s fantasy football podcast! What will the Bucs offense look like without Brady? Chris Olave breakout season? How high are you willin...g to pick Bijan Robinson in fantasy football drafts? Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for July 22nd, 2023. Dive into the 2023 Ultimate Draft Kit + Draft Analyzer! UltimateDraftKit.com Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:00 The Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Oh, baby. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, I'm Andy Holloway. The Deucers are here as well. It's a ragtag bunch of Deucers. Yeah, we took Al Borland's here, the Rapscallion is here, and then we just found another bald guy. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:04:09 and the broom definitely looks like it had melted. And I said, oh, crap. I think you might be right. Luckily, it was not just attached to the grass. Like melted the plastics together? But the broom, the sweeping part of the broom was very wilted every every state's got us not every state uh most states have their challenges maybe you've got humidity maybe you've got blizzards maybe you have months where you can't
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Starting point is 00:05:21 We are stuck to the chairs, but we are here for you. And we've got another Divional breakdown show for Saturday. Very excited to get into it. We are in the NFC South. And we've got a quick question on today's show. We've got a live show coming up Saturday, August 26th at the Palace Theater in Los Angeles. If you would like to come and join us,
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Starting point is 00:06:01 Available right now. Prime up for your drafts. Lots of cool tools in there, including the draft analyzer, where we will break down your draft. If you're mock drafting and you want to see what we think of the decisions you've made, plug your team in there, and we will let you know which of us agrees with the decisions you made, the players, and it will help form your strategy for the upcoming drafts. And I will say, I don't know if we've mentioned it on the show,
Starting point is 00:06:25 on the podcast or not, when we're talking about the live show. It's really a double show because we record the podcast, so you can be involved with that, the cheering, and a couple mailbag questions. But then once the show is done, we do an entire Q&A where those are entirely the questions from the audience. And then that becomes our special footcast for the week. So it's double, double trouble.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah. And Jason, you can bring your Gooch fan. Oh, I will have it. I always do. To keep you cool. Patent pending. I kind of regret saying that. Twitter at the FF Ballers.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Quick question of the day comes from Mark in Sydney. Oh, bonjour. There you go. Wait, is there a Sydney in the U.S.? Unlikely. I would say that I would go very likely. Well, I feel like if you're in the U.S. I'm on it.
Starting point is 00:07:26 You would say Mark in Sydney, Ohio. You wouldn't just say Sydney because you know we're going to assume. Sydney, Florida. We're going to assume it's the opera house. Yeah, he's literally sending us a message from the opera house. It could be the bridge. Yeah, Mike's climbed that bridge. Shout out to the bridge. We're going to talk about problems with your gooch what oh man do you mean like feeling nervous oh
Starting point is 00:07:52 yeah oh okay yeah fear of heights yeah i thought it was like sweat no no i'm things things clench welcome to the gooch cast um hey this is three mentions we We need like a peewee's play. It's not a good Saturday has a feel to it. Guys. Mark and Sydney. Hey, ballers. How much do you factor in the other team's improvement when you are making a trade? I either trade will help your team, but will help their team as well.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I can jump in. Sure. I have a I have an answer and i'm sure jason does so to me there's there's two types of trades there it would which it depends on your league format of course if you're in a complete 100 redraft where you don't keep any players and this is simply I'm trying to improve my team for right now for this season and you. I consider it a lot because I don't want trade offers coming to me where I look at them and go, why would I possibly trade away my run? I have two running backs. Why would I trade you one of them and decimate my team?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Okay, I improve at my wide receiver position, but it destroys the structure of my team. Okay, I improve at my wide receiver position, but it destroys the structure of my team. So I personally do factor it in because I want people to factor it in when they're sending me a trade. But there's also keeper leagues and dynasty trades, and that is the I am sending you a very lopsided offer because I know you don't want to trade this player. So I'm willing to pay up or pay the piper, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yeah, I mean, I don't consider it. I consider the story. I consider the argument of why you should do the deal. So in that sense, I'm looking at your team and I'm finding a reason. But I'm not actually – I don't want you to be better as an opponent, not in reality. I want you to believe you as an opponent, not in reality. I want you to believe you're getting better because that's how you – Well, I think that means you factor in what their team needs are.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Yes, I do factor in the team needs to make a strong case for the trade. And I think that's really important to get trades through. So I think we're agreeing. The net result is I want the trade to go through for me. Yeah, yeah. I don't really care. I'm never trade to go through for me yeah yeah I don't really care I I'm never gonna assume someone's gonna take a trade if they don't think it helps their team and they're probably smart enough to know whether or not it does or
Starting point is 00:10:13 not which means I am trying to improve the other team I think the heart of this question is like do you worry if a trade improves your team like you believe like this trade helps me but I think it helps them even more do I not make the trade and I would say no your goal no as in yes make the trade correct your goal is to just keep making your team better and better and better other teams that's their goal you worry about your team the only difference the only time that I hesitate at all is if it's with andy because if you have a mortal enemy in your league then okay okay maybe this time it's personal um and he is my in our league of record we're in the same division so mike it would be you i'm sure if we were in the same division but it's just the fact that you know i fan fantasy football wisewise, and specifically League of Record-wise,
Starting point is 00:11:06 I hate you. Right. No. Deep inside. I hate you. And I'm so thankful for that. Good. That says a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I mean that with love. I mean, I'd consider it if it was, like, heading right into the playoffs and I knew I was going to face those teams in the playoffs, if it really strengthened them. But otherwise, I agree. I think it's exactly like the idea where people say, I'm going to draft two tight ends so that I can go trade one to somebody. You just don't know all the possible outcomes.
Starting point is 00:11:36 It just doesn't make sense to bank on one team. Making them better is going to hurt you. And you don't know. Dynasty, you don't really... The teams are so deep. It's not an obvious... Like everybody has players at every position. So even though there are strengths and weaknesses on your team,
Starting point is 00:11:53 you can kind of mix and match a lot more in Dynasty. Picks come into play. Teams may have different goals. Like in that situation, it's harder to know what the team's weaknesses maybe are, but you're not going to get trades through if you can't make a story out of it. If you can't paint the picture for somebody.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I agree. All right. We don't have very much news to talk about. This is being recorded about a day early than when you're hearing it. So if there's something big that's transpired, we will cover it on Tuesday. Oh, something big happened, Andy. Oh, yeah, what's that?
Starting point is 00:12:27 There was a big trade. Oh, boy. The Jets have traded wide receiver Denzel Mims to the Lions. There was a lot of rumors that he was going to get cut, but I guess in the 11th hour, the Detroit Lions came in, which this is a fantastic bet, in my opinion, for the Lions because it was like a conditional seventh. Mims and a conditional seventh for a conditional sixth.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I mean, this is absolutely nothing, and they have Jamison Williams who should be the future of the field-stretching future because Amon Raw is there, but he's suspended for six games because of the gambling situation. So they need someone else. And Marvin Jones, he's a little bit older. So Mims, I would say it's fair to say at this point, Mims is not going to turn into the player that we had hoped.
Starting point is 00:13:21 He was a second-round pick. I liked him a lot. Yeah, well, he's big. He's very athletic. But the Jets have seen enough to say that he's clearly not a future. But for the Lions to just rent a player who can run a nine route really, really fast and be tall, it's a great move. Who's the Lions receiver from last year that kept catching touchdowns?
Starting point is 00:13:44 T.J. Turk? No, that was one of them. Kalief Raymond. Kalief Raymond. That's it. Kalief Raymond. Yeah, if you have those guys that can go make a play here or there, like his best storyline possibility as a player at this point
Starting point is 00:13:59 because he didn't prove himself in New York is the Brashad Perryman type of narrative. Yeah. Come in and make an impact at some point. It's weird because Mims didn't get a real shot and we liked him and Elijah Moore didn't really get a real shot last year
Starting point is 00:14:14 and a lot of people like him. It's weird that the Jets would jettison those guys. Also, Brees Hall, Randall Cobb, C.J. Uzama all on the pup to start camp can be activated at any time this was to be expected
Starting point is 00:14:29 this is not new information with Brees Hall but when you hear it you're like oh no new as in you expected it to be right yeah it's new as in they actually did it but it's not new as in a setback or something.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Correct. Let's get divisional. Just looking at the standings from the NFC South last year, I'm laughing because this is— It's the mucky muck? It really is. It's the swampucky muck it really it's the swamp man um we're looking at these divisions we've been going through the breakdowns tampa bay won tampa bay lost the division they were the first place losers with a negative 45 point
Starting point is 00:15:20 differential oh my which was the most in the division at eight and nine as in the most negative so they were the yeah that was the the playoff the playoff buccaneers were eight and nine the panther saints and falcons were seven and ten the point differential in this division everybody was negative um and yet all four had a shot to make the playoffs as late as week 17. You know, as we were working on the YouTube thumbnail for this episode, and I'm sitting there going like, who do I put up on that thumbnail? Because there aren't elite fantasy options, not a lot of them, not like a normal, like some of these divisions we've gone through. There are young rookies that...
Starting point is 00:16:07 Sophomores. Rookies or sophomores that are like emerging talents. But when you talk about... There isn't somebody that's gone out and established themselves for fantasy. There are players that we know well, like Bijan. There are players with immense talent like pits and olave but you've got bryce young a rookie quarterback you've got mile sanders changing divisions who's been inconsistent you've got drake london who's been inconsistent and you have
Starting point is 00:16:34 so you've got youth but you don't have stalwarts in this division and it's weird well you got the the old guys but they've and chris godwin and mike evans but they've yeah they've uh moved from tom brady to probably Baker Mayfield. Yeah, I mean, the win total for the Buccaneers as we start this divisional breakdown was 11.5 last year. Now, they did win the division, but it's down to 6.5 this year with the departure of Tom Brady. And there's no way, I mean, nobody believes that Baker will play 17 games, right?
Starting point is 00:17:03 I just can't imagine that. They're going to lose so many games. It's going to be one of those situations where you just are forced to throw things at the wall and make changes for change's sake, even if they still believe that Baker is the best option in week eight when they're two and six. Yeah, you don't stay as a starting quarterback if you lose that many games. You just don't because at some point in time, you don't stay as a starting quarterback if you lose that many games.
Starting point is 00:17:25 You just don't because at some point in time, you try something new. Yeah, and you go say, we're going to trask to the number one pick. Possible. That being said, 8-9 won you a division. So could Baker get you to 8? Maybe. And this year, 8 might do it again. It might. 7 might do it again it might so they were seven might do it they were rough last year 25th in points per game despite being second in pace of play
Starting point is 00:17:52 and so you know they threw the ball 751 times that was insane i mentioned it the other day in the tennessee breakdown that's 20 times more than the Titans threw it per game. This year is going to be different. It just is. Tom Brady's not running the show. The pace of play is going to be different. You're going to have to depend more on your defense because your identity, you can't come back the way that you could
Starting point is 00:18:18 before. Todd Bowles, good luck. Baker Mayfield, Chase Edmonds, new additions. Tom Brady and his $35 million counting against the cap. They have the most dead cap money in the entire NFL, $74 million. This looks like a full reset year. I mean, what kind of is troublesome about that,
Starting point is 00:18:40 and we can start with the wide receivers, is that Godwin and Evans are still very very talented wide receivers if they were in a better situation we would be very excited about their potential for sure but that but that storyline is what we said about Matt Caffin Lockett last year and we were surprised yeah so you you can say okay we've seen let's paint the uh rosier picture because my my current projection is extraordinarily pessimistic. I'll spoil and say that I think the Buccaneers are going to finish last in this division. But there is an outlook here where you say, well, Godwin, not only just Godwin, but he's
Starting point is 00:19:18 27 years old and he's now in year two from a pretty devastating knee injury. We weren't believing he would be back by week one last year. He was. So he should be at his best, like peak Godwin. And you've got Mike Evans, who's obviously a dominant force, has never not had a thousand yard season. And Baker Mayfield, while he has been terrible lately, you know, one point point in time he was the future of the NFL and that wasn't that long ago so if he could put it together there is a rosy outlook here where they can be okay I think I don't believe PFF's rating on this offensive line I think the offensive line is going to be a massive problem what where do they have I think they've got them at 14
Starting point is 00:20:03 projected for this season. It's definitely healthy. Yeah, I mean, they lost some pieces last year to injury, but they've lost some pieces from that unit that they finished the season with last year as well. So to me, I don't think that with this offensive line, Baker or Trask can get the job done regardless of the weapons. Hopefully you have a Geno Smith-style surprise,
Starting point is 00:20:29 and if that happens, they could win the division. But I've got them finishing last. And it's a surprise for a reason. You know what I mean? It's not the expectation because generally that doesn't happen. So you're right. I mean, it could be Baker and Kyle Trask, which casts some shade on Evans and Godwin's potential.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Let's try to find some diamonds in the rough here. Rashad White is going in the seventh round, running back, third-round pick, capable pass catcher, wasn't good on the ground last year, but you can chalk a lot of that up to kind of abysmal play as a team altogether. I mean, we watched Tom Brady's 751 pass attempts. I'm not sure that their air yards on those pass attempts were further than where Rashad White was running. No.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So could it be better, more efficient for Rashad White another year into the league, the opportunity, the pass catching? I think that's possible. I think he could. You know, Carolina wasn't a great football team last year, but you had Deonta Foreman that had a year where he was relevant for fantasy yeah the the efficiency for Rashad White cannot be as bad as it was I mean it just would be nearly impossible 5.8 yards per reception is abysmal 3.7 yards per carry is abysmal so his efficiency should go up and as far as volume goes even if
Starting point is 00:21:45 they run a lot fewer plays without Tom Brady which I would expect without Leonard Fournette his volume should be pretty assured so if you're looking for a diamond in the rough it is Rashad White can I ask a nonsensical question I love that it's Saturday if uh if you wanted to get that yards per catch up, if you start juggling the ball, when is the catch actually counted? So let's say Tom Brady dropped it to you at the two-yard pass. That's an interesting question. And you just started kind of like, whoa, whoa, whoa, and then you catch it at the five-yard line. Is that a five-yard?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Pretty sure that doesn't make any – that's not depth of target. It's yards per reception. So it's like how many total yards receiving did you have divided by how many? I don't think it matters. Oh, that's right. Because we're, yeah. But that same question
Starting point is 00:22:30 remains on average depth of catch. Yeah, sure. So would that? Yes, that would be how you pad your numbers. Just tap it to yourself further down the field. Got it.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Yes. Coaches love that. I told you it was nonsensical. Okay, so right now, Mike Evans, seventh-round pick, Chris Godwin, fifth-round pick. To me, and in every mock draft we've done, I'm taking the lower guy. But you guys have not done that.
Starting point is 00:22:55 You guys have been on the Godwin side. It's a trap. Which one's the trap? Mike Evans is a trap. Mike Evans won me a championship last year. I don't understand how week 17. But I'm telling you, last year, if you didn't personally experience like Mike Evans numbers last year seemed fun. You know, you look at the season total.
Starting point is 00:23:18 This is you go back to the truth about wide receivers series. And the whole goal is like, like well this player might have finished you know he finishes wide receiver 16 did he help you oh my goodness no he was I mean he helped you win a championship if you had him in your lineup a week 17 times here's the I understand and relate to the to the net result of Evans year last year not truly you. But I also watched the games. Tom Brady retired. Tom Brady was atrocious. Tom Brady missed a wide open Mike Evans a lot last year. Tom Brady last year was Big Ben with the Steelers where he sucked.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And then you're like, well, it can't get worse than sucky Big Ben. Oh, yes, it could. Oh, yes, it will. Tom Brady last year is better than what they have now. But I think I think I I'm only saying that not because you might be right. That might be the case. But what I'm saying is that Mike Evans as an actual talent, I don't think I saw a depression on the field. I didn't see him decline in separation or in getting open down the field.
Starting point is 00:24:25 He was missed frequently. He was a downfield target. Brady couldn't do that anymore. Do you agree with that, Mike, or am I out of my mind? No, I'm in agreement. I think that it's still going to be a very hot, cold type of a season for Mike Evans, but you're drafting him as currently the wide receiver 33. This is not you drafted Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Where would he have gone last year? Fourth? Maybe fifth round? So your expectations are set much lower. And for a player who's always had 1,000 yards every year of his career to be available in the seventh round because the concern about the quarterback is so strong like that's just it's fully baked into his ADP that's and I think that I'm I'm perfectly fine taking it it was a seven game disaster for Evans last year because his first if you look at
Starting point is 00:25:18 the season his first nine weeks he was on pace for uh and that was with an injury mixed in almost uh over 1300 yards and seven touchdowns so you know i just wonder if a seven i think it's not fair to mike evans to have a seven game stretch in his career for a guy that's finished that consistently with his baked in adp being you know mike evans in the seventh round? Yeah. This is crazy to me. And so I'm happy that you're listening. You get both sides, right? You get the value on Mike Evans in the seventh round, a guy who's never not had 1,000 yards,
Starting point is 00:25:53 didn't look like he lost it on the field. And if you think that's a value, take him. I'll be passing on him because Mike Evans is a 70 reception type of player, right? This isn't a consistent guy. This is a guy who has big plays, big games, and that's worked for most of his career because he's been a touchdown guy. I mean, he's, you know, you look back and it's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:26:14 14 touchdowns, 13 touchdowns, 8, 8, 12, 12. He's a monster for touchdowns. If those don't come, you end up with what you experienced last year. Last year he had three games, I believe, where he scored a touchdown. Yeah, three touchdowns in the first 17 weeks. Yeah, so. 16 weeks. Right, and then he had the three-touchdown game in week 17.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And so you felt like when a guy like that who's not a volume player isn't getting the touchdowns, you end up with six fantasy points, five fantasy points, 6.8 fantasy points. You just end up with, like, I'm disappointed every week. So the question to me on a low-volume guy is, well, will the low-volume guy get touchdowns? And on this team, this version with this quarterback play, I don't think he gets touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:26:56 But he can. So he was more consistent than Chris Godwin. In 47% of his games, he was giving you a meaningful fantasy performance. God was at 41% or his last 17 games. So from a fantasy perspective, Godwin is not more assured than Mike Evans. He just feels safer because they'll be closer to the line of scrimmage for Baker Mayfield and Baker Mayfield is going to take chances.
Starting point is 00:27:20 If this was Jameis Winston, how would you feel? Oh, I'd feel great. See, I think Baker's going to throw the ball more than you think down the field. I think Baker will not be given time in the pocket to throw the ball downfield, just like Brady.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I mean, this is a good debate, and that's what it is. We will see it on the field. I like the price for Evans. If I'm choosing between the two, I'm not spending two rounds earlier on Godwin personally because all your arguments I agree with in terms of the offense not great line what's your running back your tight end is you know another story but why would I spend two rounds ahead if if both guys were disappointments last year that's the part that's hard for me
Starting point is 00:27:56 right and and for me it's simply the fact that if if both of these guys end up with four touchdowns on the season I want the one who has 100 receptions instead of 70. Yeah, it's fair, but Mike Evans. 100 receptions is not going to be the same amount of yards. Mike Evans is far more likely of the two to have eight-plus touchdowns. All right, Kate Otten. Sneaky? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Mike loves Kate Otten. I don't blame him whatsoever. I don't love Kate Otten, but I love the fact that this is a starting tight end who is being drafted as the tight end 33? 42 receptions last year as a rookie. Jason, he's not a rookie anymore. You don't have to hate him by default. Second-year tight ends are great.
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's a good bet to beat their ADP and to have their win tight ends break out. It's commonly in year two now. But really what I'm getting out of this is there's like a Baker Mayfield poop smear across this whole team for you. Correct. For me, it's like, do you want the third target in pecking order for Baker? Because I don't. But it's like people are drafting Tyler Conklin in front of K. Don.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Yeah, I've done it a million times. I'm pretty exposed to Tyler Conklin. That one I'm not really opposed to. Really? Yeah, Aaron Rodgers. I mean... Okay, but I mean... Conk, conk also. I want to be able to... Yeah, you remember conk, conk. I want to be able to do that. But I'm saying, like,
Starting point is 00:29:17 Uzama is there as well. It's just people are taking rookie Luke Musgrave for the Green Bay Packers over Kate Auden. Yeah, I wouldn't do that, I guess. You guys are crazy. No, no, no. I think he's sneaky, but he's sneaky in the way that I don't really care that much.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Quick break. Hold on. I want to throw out one name, and this is just – Oh, yes. This is the name to monitor is running back Sean Tucker because the dude is good. He is a tremendously talented running back who unfortunately had really bad injury luck right as we were rolling into the draft
Starting point is 00:29:57 so that it ended up causing him to go completely undrafted, and he is still hurt right now. But look at what the depth chart is for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We're talking about Rashad White going as running back 27 because he's like, well, he's there. Is Rashad White a good player? I think that's still up in the air as of right now. And Sean Tucker, can Sean Tucker play?
Starting point is 00:30:23 What about Keyshawn Vaughn, though? Yeah, I mean, at this point, what year are we in Keyshawn Vaughn's career? Like four? Sounds right. And the guy still hasn't been able to get on the field. So I just want people to be paying attention to the name of Sean Tucker, see if he gets healthy and starts making some splashes in training camp because then you really need to move them
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Starting point is 00:31:29 Alright, Carolina, last year, projected for six wins. This year, it's up to seven and a half. They won seven last year. Honestly, very impressive. Very impressive season for Steve Wilks taking over from Ja Rule. Matt Ja Rule.
Starting point is 00:31:46 It didn't work. The Matt Rule era, 11 and 27. I mean, it worked for his bank. Yeah, I mean, he took a Cliff Kingsbury approach to the... I mean, he was much worse, to be fair. I mean, at least Kingsbury made the playoffs. But also had challenges, had Ben McAdoo as his offensive coordinator last year um self-inflicted challenges
Starting point is 00:32:08 teddy bridgewater cam newton baker mayfield sam donald pj walker i mean at the end it was like i somebody knew get in there every play he could have been swapping them every play this year frank reich takes over this was not an impressive by the numbers fantasy team last year in terms of points per game, pace of play, total yards, pass attempts, pass yards. They were at the bottom. But they were able to run the football last year. They were number one in expected points per rush attempt inside the red zone. The running game in the offensive line at times last year was to me must must-watch television because everyone knew that passing the football
Starting point is 00:32:50 wasn't an option, and they imposed their will the way that, like, Seattle used to do it in the past. And I was honestly very impressed. Deonta Foreman and Chuba both had big games at times, and then this offseason they lost, they lost DJ Moore in the trade to go up and get Bryce Young. They lost Deonta Foreman, but they added Miles Sanders. They added Adam Thielen and DJ Chark to the wide receiver room,
Starting point is 00:33:16 Andy Dalton. I think a great depth. Depth. That was a deep fart. I think a great depth. I thought it was doing a Sylvester impression. That was a full moment of like, did everybody hear what I heard? That was a please tell me that no one reacts to that.
Starting point is 00:33:35 No, no one's going to hear about your depth. Isn't that the best way to describe Andy Dalton, though, as a depth? Yeah, sure. I mean, he's good depth. Fuck it, actually. Oh, sure. I mean, he's good depth. Thumper and Thuckertash. Oh, boy. Happy Saturday. It's hot in here.
Starting point is 00:33:51 It's Saturday. It's very warm. I need a Gooch fan. That's number four. Oh, yeah. We got two more. Two more to work in. Let me crank up the Gooch fan.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Hayden Hurst as well. And they drafted Bryce Young and Jonathan Mingo. It's a reset on offense. And Frank Reich gives you some confidence that they're going to figure some things out. I am a big Bryce Young fan. Sure. I believe that he will be capable of not a top half offense, but also not 29th in total yards,
Starting point is 00:34:25 29th in pass attempts. Like, you're going to need to utilize his arm, his IQ, not just hand the ball off all year long. So I know that rookie quarterbacks traditionally, I mean, there's been four since 2010 that have surpassed 4,000 yards, only three with 25 passing touchdowns. But 3,823 touchdowns? I mean, I think that's in the cards for Bryce Jennings.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It's certainly possible. I really do. So there'll be some production there. Where is it? Where's it going to be? Yeah, that's a big question. I do think that Hayden Hurst is a little bit undervalued. Not that I'm calling for Hayden Hurst to be a top 12 guy, but being drafted in the Cade Otten range, as I will put it now,
Starting point is 00:35:14 I think that he can outproduce that. For the wide receivers, it's very difficult because Adam Thielen is the – you usually follow the money. Let the management tell you who they like because of how much they've paid, but there is always a tax for bad teams to lure in players, and Adam Thielen, who is at the tail end of his career to get a three-year, $14 million guaranteed. Good for you, man.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Yes. Yeah, congratulations to Mr. Thielen. But it's hard to look at anything that Thielen has done in the last four years and not say it has declined every single year. And, I mean, yards per catch has – four years ago we were at 13.9, 12.5, 10.8, 10.2. He put up 70 receptions and just over 700 yards with that high-powered Minnesota offense.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I know Jefferson is taking a lot of it, but if you're the number two to Justin Jefferson, you should be able to put up some decent numbers. I've got no argument for Adam Thielen being a consistent force, but I will say he's there for hands in red zone. That's where he's been good. Like the red zone will be where he can contribute. Jonathan Mingo.
Starting point is 00:36:30 I like the player a lot. Very talented, 6'2", 220, higher draft capital than expected. Second round pick, Ole Miss. Should have an early opportunity in this offense. He's somebody in dynasty leagues that maybe you pay attention to uh now and hopes for the connection to build between him and a rookie quarterback dj charke i mean last year was was fine when he had opportunities but i wouldn't expect a lot so the the wide receiver room jason this is uh well it's terrence marshall's room right don't forget terrence marshall's there
Starting point is 00:37:07 um you're you're right it's it's adam thielen i think as the one probably mingo and dj chart kind of splitting the next duties to terrence marshall's there i and and hayden hurst will probably be second in the team in targets so i you know bryce young if you want to take a bet on bryce young because you believe in the talent if you want to take a bet on Bryce Young, because you believe in the talent and you want to see if he scrambles and uses his legs at all in the NFL level, and you're not sure where the targets are going to go, but they all count to him. I'm fine with that in best ball. I'm fine with Hayden Hurst and best ball because of how late he is and he should have more targets. I think it's just going to be a really inconsistent
Starting point is 00:37:40 offense. If I'm taking a bet on offense here, it's definitely Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders should be the best friend to this rookie quarterback. I think that they're going to try to have the running game open things up and make life easier for Bryce Young. Run the ball a lot. We saw it last year, Andy. You talked about it, how you knew they were going to run. They still were able to run. This is a great offensive line. I don't know what's going on with – look, PFF, you do great work. Love your stuff. But these offensive line grades was happening.
Starting point is 00:38:13 You have last year's Tampa Bay Buccaneers ahead of last year's Panthers. I don't know what you are watching. Same with this year's. And this is an offensive line that can move people. So I like Miles Sanders I think they'll use him more as a three down back than a lot of other middle tier running back selections in fantasy so I'm in on Sanders and then I'm kind of just letting everything else be fun to watch and not mine for fantasy with this offense quick thought on Sanders I will mention it because I think we've been all very pro-Miles Sanders as a value.
Starting point is 00:38:48 He was on a really good offense last year. He had a lot of games where it was 16 opportunities, 18 opportunities, 21, 12, 13, 12, where they were disaster games on a good offense. So he has been extremely hot and cold. He had nothing in the middle range. He was either very good last year or very bad. And I'm just throwing that out there because I – It's a bet on volume.
Starting point is 00:39:10 It's a bet on volume, but it's going to be – he's not scoring 11 times probably. Yeah, so here's the thing about what happened last year with Miles Sanders. He was not throwing the ball. Jalen Hurts is going to check it down, doesn't throw to the running backs that much, and he was barely using the passing game. And then you get around the goal line, and the number one goal line back in the league was Jalen Hurts. So you did have enough touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And if you look back at Miles Sanders' games where it was like, oh, he had a great game for fantasy, he got the touchdowns that game. And so I am hoping, my bet on Miles Sanders isn't just volume, but it's really almost exclusively about the pass catching work, and that's a projection. That's no guarantee. He had 20 catches last year. Let's say you give him 50.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Yeah. If you give him 50, which would be his peak, he finishes as a running back what? Top 20. 14. Okay. That's above 80. I don't think he's getting 50, though.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I think it's a little ambitious. I think he can get 50 receptions. I wonder how much Chuba will get worked in. All right it's a little ambitious. I think he can get 50 receptions. I wonder how much Chuba will get worked in. All right, let's move on. The Saints 7-10 last season. Projected win total was 8. This year it's up to 9.5.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Okay. You know, they were not a good offense last season. So there are this 9.5. That's the highest. It's got to be the highest. So the Saints are projected. They're the betting favorites. So Jamal Williams, Derek Carr, Foster Moreau. Welcome in.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Ingram, Landry, Dalton. See you later. Drafted Kendra Miller, who's starting on the inactive list. Dealing with an injury. And here we go. Derek Carr, the journey begins. I have the highest of the three of us at QB 17. I think, you know, nine seasons, believe it or not,
Starting point is 00:40:50 in Las Vegas or Oakland slash Las Vegas. He was between quarterback 13 and 20 every year. I think he's in that range again. And that comes down to having an elite pass catcher in Chris Olave, the return of Mike Thomas, some tight ends that are going to contribute in Moreau and Juwan Johnson and Taysom Hill. So I think he's very, like, who would you rather have?
Starting point is 00:41:14 Derek Carr or Bryce Young is a bet this year. Derek Carr. Okay. That's how I feel. Now, Mike, I don't know if you have it ranked quite that way. Not necessarily for fantasy. Actually, yes, you do. You have him 27-28, though.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Yeah, but I'm not really in on rookie quarterbacks. An Anthony Richardson type of archetype, okay, take the bet. But otherwise, I'm shying away. And Derek Carr, I probably have him ranked much lower than he'll finish, but it's because all those guys, once you get to a certain range of quarterback, it's like add two touchdowns and this quarterback jumps 10 spots. So if his touchdown equity is a little more positive, then he'll finish in that 13 to 20 range, but he's not exciting and I don't see a path for him to surpass
Starting point is 00:42:06 what he has done for the Raiders. All right, so they're the favorites to win the division, albeit with a low win total. We like winning teams with running backs. Alvin Kamara, his legal situation has gotten a lot of clarity. We don't have a final answer on suspension. We need the NFL to talk. It could be zero.
Starting point is 00:42:25 It could be one. It could be two. It could be more. It can go up to six. I think I've seen. I think that would be wild. I think I've seen. But he's saying it could.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Right, right, right. They have the right. Within the rules, it's zero to six games. That's what's going to happen. And some of the legal fantasy people that I follow and trust the most, they're kind of landing on four. I'd still be a little surprised if it's four but uh tbd so am i in that legal source that you're trusting uh no i'm so sorry did you you didn't pass the bar you're not in the list i have not you haven't attempted it yeah you haven't failed the bar oh oh man i
Starting point is 00:43:03 was half full i was starting to feel a little bit bad about myself and my situation, but I realize it's because I haven't even tried. That's right. I got you. You have not failed the bar. Excellent. Alvin Kamara, though, where he's being drafted, it's a bet that I think can really pay off.
Starting point is 00:43:18 But I'm the only one that seems to think that. Our consensus ranking is 27, and I've got him at 22. That's ridiculously low for the history of Alvin Kamara not not that we would expect a return to where he was but he if this offense is more competent more capable it was Andy Dalton and Jameis Winston led last year like Derek Carr can move the offense more efficiently than those guys and Alvin Kamara is he's their best weapon still behind Chris Olave. Yeah, he is. I think what is happening, at least,
Starting point is 00:43:50 I think this is happening in the fantasy community, but I know this is happening in my heart. It's the combination of realizing that Alvin Kamara has become less and less efficient and he has lost a little step. He doesn't look like you know second year explosive Alvin Kamara he's still great it's the combination of knowing that he's on the way down combined with the fear of the suspension that makes me kind of just want to avoid it
Starting point is 00:44:18 but that is probably a mistake because as much as I like Kendra Miller and I think he's talented, I think he could, by the end of the season, overtake the starting role. I really do believe that could happen. Most likely Alvin Kamara is the most talented player in that backfield. This offense will be probably the best one in the division. They'll win more games than others in the division. What's the quickest path to relevance for a running back? Pass catching.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah. We've been talking about that a lot. And he missed some time last year. He still had 57 receptions. He still can catch the football. Josh Jacobs last year made his ascension because Derek Carr threw him the football a lot. We were sitting here going, man, Andy Dalton doesn't do it
Starting point is 00:45:04 or Taysom Hill doesn't do it. Maybe Jamie Swinson will do it. I think that's the bet. The bet is that Derek Carr will throw the football to one of the more talented receivers. I believe you are correct, and I'm going to move Alvin Kamara up a little bit. And I did pass the bar.
Starting point is 00:45:18 What? Oh, Mike, you're a loser again. Unfortunately, it was the Alaskan State Bar, and I can only practice up there. Oh. But I do go up from time to time. Still pretty cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:30 A lot of moose law up there. There's a lot of moose law. Yeah. Yeah, thanks, Mike. Jamal Williams, right now being drafted eight spots behind Alvin Kamara. We are attracted to 17 rushing touchdowns. I don't know if we're attracted to anything other than his personality beyond the touchdowns because he's not very good.
Starting point is 00:45:50 No, there's no reason. He's just really good around the goal line. Yeah, I'm like OUT on Jamal Williams. I love the dude. Obviously, we know he can get it done. He just had 17 touchdowns. But when I look at it, I want the pass catching of Kamara or I want the actual
Starting point is 00:46:05 athletic youth explosiveness to take over of Kendra Miller when Kendra Miller got added to this team it was like oh Jamal Williams you're dead to me from a fantasy perspective what about the the famous four-week rental policy because Kendra Miller's probably not established in being used early in the season that doesn't't generally happen, especially coming off an injury. Jamal Williams was paid money by this team. And if Camara were to miss four games, like you said, you get to start the year, Tennessee, Carolina, Green Bay. Could Jamal Williams end up like last year as a top 10 running back
Starting point is 00:46:38 just for the first three weeks? It's certainly possible. And once we get the word for Alvin Kamara from the NFL, get the official, is it zero, where does it end? If it's four, Jamal Williams, his ADP will rise substantially. But if you're doing best ball right now, it's tough. It's tough because to me, this isn't like Samaj P. Ryan where I see a chance that Samaj P. Ryan is really integral
Starting point is 00:47:12 the entire year for the Denver Broncos as Javante is trying to get back from the injury. Jamal would be a month rental because I think that... What's a month rental worth at the running back position? In the ninth round, I think that's a little too. That might be a little too rich for me. For me, it's still one of those things where if I were to you give me a $100 bill and I've got to place a bet. I got to put it on Jamal Williams.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I got to put it on Kendra Miller. I'm going to put it on Kendra Miller. And it's not necessarily because I think he has the higher odds. It's because he's going to have the better payout. Should both hit Kendra Miller will be worth more. I'll get more return on the a hundred dollars than I would on Jamal Williams. Jamal Williams might fall into the end zone a couple of times, but I just don't see him being otherworldly. And then when Alvin Kamara gets back and as the season progresses, um, you know, we'll, so that's where if I'm making the non-Alvin Kamara bet,
Starting point is 00:48:07 I'm moving towards Kendrick Miller. I'm going to believe what we saw, Mike. What happens? They pay Jamal Williams, Alvin Kamara's going to play football. How does Kendrick Miller, is it just injury? How does he pass both those guys to the point where that ticket pays off as opposed to, like, Jamal Williams is taking the guaranteed payout for the first three weeks, but you don't get it anymore.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Whereas Kendrick Miller, what is the payoff? How does that happen? The payoff is Kamara gets Petersoned, where the rookie year Kamara was I think third on the depth chart. You do not want to get Peterson. No, you don't want to get Peterson. Yeah, it was Adrian Peterson, Mark Ingram, and then Alvin Kamara was third on the depth chart his rookie year.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And then by, you know, after the first month or so. His path is Kamara's path. Yes. Got it. Chris Olave, looking at all rookie wide receivers since 2014. Yes, is the answer. Only Tyreek Hill had a higher target per outrun than Olave. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I agree with your statement. Chris Olave has. Sir, that was not a question. I'm going to say something here. Chris Olave has number one overall potential. Whoa. I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Wow. No, he doesn't. Yes, he does. I don't like it. I love it. I'm not. Obviously, it's not. Yes, I believe that. Yeah, he does. I don't like it. I love it. I am not. Really? Yes, I believe that.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Yeah, I believe he has number one overall potential. I'm not predicting that. I'm not predicting number one, but we always talk about range of outcomes. I think that's true because I think he could score 15 times. I mean, I genuinely think that could happen in this offense. I mean, Derek Carr is a good deep ball thrower.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Crystal Lobby's on film last year. Unbelievable. think that could happen in this offense. I mean, Derek Carr is a good deep ball thrower. Chris Olave's on film last year. Unbelievable. When he was given opportunities from Jameis, Olave was coming through with deep perceptions. Then Andy Dalton's like, no, I don't do that. Chris Olave last year, if you take if he hadn't gotten injured, he would be getting
Starting point is 00:49:59 greater than Garrett Wilson pub this year. That's my only point. And so do you think Garrett Wilson has that potential? I think we would say yeah. I think we would say yeah. So is it number one? Is it top three? Is it top five?
Starting point is 00:50:13 Whatever. Olave is that talented and that discounted at wide receiver 13. So I like the price. I'm happy with the price. I'd spend it. It's a dependent bet on Derek Carr carr no one likes that no one wants to go down and be like you know derrick carr gives almost always derrick carr gives us one elite fantasy option i i love betting on a lave because there's nothing he can't do do you love it
Starting point is 00:50:41 i openly pass on that joke. It was in the brain. It went out. I was like, I'm out. You made a mistake. Mike stepped up. You made a big mistake. You all love him?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Oh, I love him. He is an exceptional route runner. Great hands. Incredible speed. He's got world-beater speed. there's nothing to not like about him so I I don't I don't have a problem with you saying that you think he's got number one overall potential but for that to happen you also have for that to be in the range of outcomes two things have to happen Derek Carr's got to be good which that that that can be okay I mean
Starting point is 00:51:25 he supported Devonta Adams last year but also Michael Thomas has got to be done or injured or Michael Thomas can't come and be 140 target type of player or 130 target type of player and have Chris Olave be I just you know also 150 target player for sure and I like the beginning of the sentence where you stated Michael Olave no of the sentence where you stated Michael Thomas. I love him. No, not that part. Where you stated Michael Thomas can't be 140 target player because I believe that statement is true.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Okay. I don't think that's in his range of outcomes anymore. He's going to be over 30 at this point in time. He can still help the offense. Of course. And you're going to need that. I mean, you have to have somebody be productive. Landry was a compliment to Olave last year.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I mean, there were options. But what is the ceiling of the current wide receiver 44 and ADP Michael Thomas? Can he get to 20? I think he can be a top 30 guy. He was coming. I mean, it was only two weeks, right? What did he have for him?
Starting point is 00:52:23 Yeah, the first two weeks he was great. He was the wide receiver eight, wide receiver 18. It was touchdowns. It was touchdowns. Yeah, three touchdowns in two weeks. But it's still he was coming in and getting – Five for 57. Decent target share.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I think that Michael Thomas is a – I'm okay with the Michael Thomas bet. I'm not trying to – Well, I got Michael Thomas here. I'm going to get a top 12 wide receiver. You're not paying for that. But get someone who helps your team. Fantasy football teams need wide receiver threes and fours,
Starting point is 00:52:54 and Michael Thomas, I think, is someone that I want to bet on to be the fourth wide receiver on my team. 44? Wide receiver 44 in the ninth. I was trying to figure out, what's some guys around that range? Jamal Williams. Yeah, give me Michael Thomas. I'll pull up some ADP here.
Starting point is 00:53:15 You just want the wide receiver position? Yeah, I'm just curious some names around there to see how much I actually believe in him. So Michael Thomas, other wide receivers. Gabe Davis is going right before him. I'll take that shot. You'll take the shot on Gabe Davis? Yeah. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Juju Smith-Schuster right behind him. You can give me Michael Thomas on that one. I think that is correct. Zay Flowers? Give me Zay. Yeah, that one's tough. Cortland Sutton somehow is there. Rashad Bateman?
Starting point is 00:53:42 Yeah, probably Bateman. And then Jamison Williams. That's wild. With a known six-game suspension in the 10th round. I think he is that good, though. Jamison? Yeah. We didn't talk a lot about him, but I do think that's a really tough situation for fantasy players. Because it's a hold.
Starting point is 00:54:01 You've got to hold him through the suspension. But the second half of the year with that team that we were talking about yesterday, I don't know. All right, where's the gold at players because it's a hold you got to hold them through the suspension yes um but but that the second half of the year with that team that we were talking about yesterday i don't know all right where's the gold at tight end give me a couple seconds it's the goal that tight end is going to be tasem hill i i liked juwan johnson quite a bit until they signed foster moreau foster moreau has a connection with uh derrick carr yeah they have a history i think foster rose pretty good i think ju think Foster Rose is pretty good. I think Jawan Johnson is pretty good. If you're telling me they're
Starting point is 00:54:28 splitting between each other behind Michael Thomas and Chris Olave, I am completely out on fantasy. You can grab them in best ball and hope you get a touchdown here or there. They will have some service, but you can't rely on either of them. So if you're taking the gold, it's Taysom Hill, who's not a tight end.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Some gold in them Hill he them hill he'll be uh oh man you passed on the olave joke for that one i just it was actually jeremy's joke oh so it's not your joke no i would never okay well then we can say how bad it was yeah um so uh but i mean you know he could i would have taken credit if i got good reception tell you that right now you're darn right you're a touchdown. I would have taken credit if I got good reception. Tell you that right now. You're darn right you would. Yeah, I would have. You're a smart man. Would have been my joke. You know, there's just very few people that can, at the tight end position,
Starting point is 00:55:12 go and put up a 20-point game, and Taysom Hill's one of them. So, for best ball right now, I actually like him. He's completely undervalued, and you don't have to decide which games he's getting two touchdowns. I mean, like, he'll have probably more than one game this season with two touchdowns. There's not a lot of tight ends you could say that about. So I would take gold there, but for the most part, there's not, there's the mind's pretty empty. Okay. Falcon seven and 10 last year, final team to break down in this division. They've been bet up to
Starting point is 00:55:43 eight and a half and they were a five 5.5 win total team last season. That puts them number two in the division, I believe, right? 8.5 should put them at two. Let me just double-check that. Yeah, they have the second-highest odds to win the division right now. Okay. Confirmed. I called some of my Alaskan lawyer friends, and they confirmed it.
Starting point is 00:56:03 They were in a ton of one-score games. They ran the football like crazy. Number one in rushing attempts. Number one in rushing attempt team drafts Bijon Robinson. Yeah. Jason was excited. Yes, I was. Number three in rushing yards.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And they said, let's get somebody that's better than anybody we even have, and let's go back to the well with that. They don't have a quarterback that is proven in the passing game, so the running game is going to be the recipe. They brought in Taylor Heineke, a serviceable backup, which is nice to have in case it doesn't work out with Ritter because I feel like Heineke could come in with a run-first offense and execute. Oh, Arthur. Arthur has a plan.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Dijon's the biggest story from this team. And to have them projected for that kind of a win total, you know, you've got them at RB4. Yeah, we, I mean, we've seen Arthur Smith with an elite. It's the Dijon Minute. Yeah! We've seen Arthur Smith with an elite. We've seen Arthur Smith with an elite, one of the best running backs in the NFL when he had Derrick Henry. And he said, this is your team. Our identity is you.
Starting point is 00:57:14 We're going to let you. It's what got him this job. Yeah. We're going to let you carry us. They have been very good at running the ball. I mean, exceptional. Even with, you know, Tyler Algier, he's pretty good. You know, but he's not Bijon, and they are going to make this team about Bijon.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I think it will open up things for them in the passing game the way that for the Titans when he was there. You know, the Titans were always one of the most efficient red zone scoring teams, and it wasn't just because of Derrick Henry. Some of that was in the passing game because it's tough when you know that you've got a superstar running back that can just flat out beat you. You are really focused on that part of the game and efficiency can go up elsewhere, which is why, you know, I love the consolidation of this offense. And my biggest fears are that Cordero Patterson and Tyler Algier and some of these other players will work in more because if it can be really a situation where it's B. John, Drake London,
Starting point is 00:58:11 and Kyle Pitts, just B. John, Drake London, and Kyle Pitts, B. John, Drake London, and Kyle Pitts. Are you speaking this into existence? I am, but I'm just saying the consolidation between those three. He's got the candles out and the seance. Those three elite weapons. It's the secret. It is a scary proposition because last year we had so many times
Starting point is 00:58:27 in the running back room, and mind you, it wasn't Bijan, we were like, oh, this is weird. This is a Caleb Huntley game out of nowhere. Oh, this is weird. Like, you know, Cordero was supposed to be the guy, and then it became, like, Cordero was supposed to be the guy, and it became Algier. And I don't think that happens.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I don't, because when you invest what you've invested in B-Bomb. Yeah, it's very unlikely, but there may be plays that you're frustrated with. It would make a bad NFL decision just way worse. If you spent that equity on a running back and then used a platoon, it won't. Get Huntley in here. I think platoon is too strong of a word. I would lose my mind. But like Tyler Adjir, like you said.
Starting point is 00:59:07 He broke the team rookie record. He didn't just do that. His last four games of the year, he was on pace for 1,800 yards at five and a half a clip. He's good. And so I don't think platoon's the right word. But occasional surprises, a red zone handoff, a third down, or a play that you're not expecting,
Starting point is 00:59:26 that kind of stuff is going to crop up, and it's not going to be enough to make you regret drafting Bijan. It's just going to be the dynamic of a team that runs the ball more than everybody. If you run the ball more than everybody, like you brought up Derrick Henry. I hate to say this to you because I don't know if you can handle it, but Bijan is not physically what Derrick Henry is.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I can handle it. Okay. And you agree? Yeah, because he's an exceptional pass catcher and he's way better. Go on. Physically, he's smaller. Physically, he may not be able to hold up to the same. They may not want to give him the same level of punishment.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I wouldn't. If I drafted Bijan, I don't punish this guy year one into the entire equation when I have a 1,000-yard rusher that I can use with him. Handing the ball to Derrick Henry is not punishing him. Right. It's punishing the defense. It's punishing everybody else. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So, you know, the defense was a great last year. You hope that this team can become an efficient, consolidated offense. That would give Drake London hope. That would give Kyle Pitts hope. A bet on London and Pitts, unfortunately, like it was last year, a bet on Mariota and Ritter. This year it's a bet on Ritter and Heineke. So Kyle Pitts is not being drafted where he was last year.
Starting point is 01:00:42 He's a fifth-round draft pick. Drake London, a fifth-round draft pick. They're basically back-to-back. If you are sitting there and you don't have a tight end and you need a wide receiver, which one are you taking? They're being drafted together. I'm going after Kyle Pitts. He is as good as Drake London as a receiver, and he plays tight end.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I've obviously been out on Kyle Pitts the last two seasons, but I believe rookie year was because he was a rookie. Sophomore year was because of his cost. People would be drafting him in the second round. This year, I get him in the sixth round all the time. If he's in the sixth I pretty and I don't and I don't have Mark Andrews I pretty much take a shot on Kyle Pitts because I don't think there's a world where he just sucks where he's just terrible and a complete
Starting point is 01:01:38 waste of a sixth round pick but I do think the world exists you don't see the world that existed last year no i you can't see last year i i know you experienced it firsthand you have those well i'm just saying that world i do see that world because it literally happened it happened with a different quarterback and maybe ritter is worse than mariota last year but i remember watching the film it also happened with uh the other quarterback he had. He had 1,000 yards with Matt. He was great. He had over 1,000 yards. He just didn't have touchdowns, so that killed him for fantasy. Last year, Kyle Pitts at the tight end position
Starting point is 01:02:13 had the highest percentage of uncatchable passes, which is, if you go back and watch any Falcons games, it's very frustrating. And sure, he's got the same head coach that frustrated us last year with the route calls and the choices yes but there's there were many plays where it was just it was mario's fault 100 missing kyle pitts maybe desmond ritter is no better than
Starting point is 01:02:38 marcus mariotta but i think it's i think it's worth the bet. And you also, Andy, mentioned you have the safety net of Taylor Heineke should they get through those first few weeks and realize Desmond Ritter is not the future. It's not going to happen. Heineke can get it done for Kyle Pitts to return a fifth-round value. Breaking news. Oh, no. What do we got?
Starting point is 01:03:02 Vikings first-round wide receiverordan addison was pulled over early this morning for driving his lamborghini at 140 miles an hour 140 go go goose uh 140 and a 55 well he can't drive 55 uh no he can't no no no no we don't. Jordan. What are you doing, man? Reckless driving, citation for speeding. Wait, hold on. He didn't get arrested? 140 in a 55. And look. Just after 3 a.m.
Starting point is 01:03:42 We've been here with another wide receiver, it didn't end well who was it well that one was that one was uh he was intoxicated well i'm just saying it if you go at that speed you're in you're in trouble man yeah um not good that's not come on honestly when this news came through just now i thought it was related to the injury that we don't know about. That's unsafe. Come on, people. So something probably not endearing himself to the team at that exact moment in time. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Let's break the division winner down. Who do you think takes this division? I actually think it's a really tough one to predict. Yeah. I'm going to go. I know my number one. Let's go one at a time. Well, no, that makes it confusing after the beginning. So I'm going to go. I know my number one. Let's go one at a time. Well, no, that makes it confusing after the beginning. So I'm going to go.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I think Atlanta wins the division. I think Atlanta wins the division. I think the Saints are second. I think Panthers are third. I think Tampa's fourth. I went back and forth with those first two, so I'm almost exactly what you are at. But I have the Saints winning, Falcons second, Panthers third,
Starting point is 01:04:40 and the Bucs last. I will go Falcons, Saints, Bucs, Panthers. Okay. All right. That'll do it for today's Saturday edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Check out the Ultimate Draft Kit available right now at ultimatedraftkit.com. Back with you Tuesday. See you later.
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